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<v Speaker 1>Number one Nickelodeon, and you won't know my name is

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<v Speaker 1>the law, but I lay.

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<v Speaker 2>My fender upon.

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<v Speaker 3>As a.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Getberger home out the Getburger. Can't I take yards?

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<v Speaker 3>You can take a manager.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit right there, I'll tell you how it became.

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<v Speaker 3>The prince of a town.

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<v Speaker 4>Called bel Air.

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<v Speaker 5>Cobain's body was found in a house in Seattle on

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<v Speaker 5>Friday morning. He was dead of an apparently self inflicted

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<v Speaker 5>shotgun blast to the head.

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<v Speaker 6>We have reports from Paris the Dinah, Princess of Wales

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<v Speaker 6>has been killed in a car accidents.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever body.

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<v Speaker 7>Your body ride, Hello, and welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the fourth and final installment of the Nineties

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<v Speaker 8>Night and it's taken me a minute to get this

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<v Speaker 8>one put together, but it's better late than never. Joining

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<v Speaker 8>us again for this episode is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very special guest, Toby, how are you not?

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<v Speaker 8>Nineties kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent? Even though I think you're not special anymore once

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<v Speaker 2>you're on all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>You're special to me and your special education.

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<v Speaker 2>That was in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 8>So to kind of recap what we talked about on

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<v Speaker 8>the last episode, I think we left it on kind

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<v Speaker 8>of a cliffhanger because we covered Waco, Ruby Ridge, Kurt Cobain.

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<v Speaker 2>What else you went through, like a list of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that had happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, oh yeah. We talked about the Los Angeles riots.

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<v Speaker 8>We kind of talked about OJA a little bit in

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<v Speaker 8>the Oklahoma City bombing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I thought you said that already.

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<v Speaker 8>No, But so today we're summing up some of the

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<v Speaker 8>stuff that I had written in the notes that I

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<v Speaker 8>wanted to cover in the last episode, but it would

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<v Speaker 8>just have been like a six hour long episode, So

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<v Speaker 8>we're back at it today. You kind of read a

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<v Speaker 8>head in the notes. What do you think about some

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<v Speaker 8>of the stuff we're going to talk about today? What

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<v Speaker 8>should we get arted.

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<v Speaker 2>With John Bennet? Ramsey? So, I always thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Bennet.

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<v Speaker 8>It is Jean Benet, isn't it j o n Either way.

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<v Speaker 8>I first learned of the conspiracy stuff about her from

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<v Speaker 8>Program to Kill. You remember the chapter on her? No, Well,

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<v Speaker 8>it's in the very back of the book. It's after

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<v Speaker 8>all of the serial killer stuff. There's a chapter just

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<v Speaker 8>on John Benet, and it's something that I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>I've covered at nauseum, like on my own show, and

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<v Speaker 8>even I did another episode about it. On the Cult

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<v Speaker 8>of Conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Or did I did?

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<v Speaker 8>I did, and then I did an episode on it

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<v Speaker 8>with the Occult Rejects. So I feel like I've talked

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<v Speaker 8>about it a lot, and if you want all the

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<v Speaker 8>specific details on John Benet, you can go back and

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<v Speaker 8>listen to any of those episodes. But you did listen

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<v Speaker 8>to the one I did on Cult of Conspiracy, right,

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<v Speaker 8>what are your thoughts about the infamous? You know, John,

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<v Speaker 8>But there's so many theories and like she didn't exist,

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<v Speaker 8>or she's Katy Perry or like Lady Gaga or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Katy Perry one.

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<v Speaker 8>So you don't think my episode was compelling, sure you,

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<v Speaker 8>but you do think she's Katy Perry.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just like the theory.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean, but what are your thoughts on it? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's a ground pedophile network that operates with

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<v Speaker 8>these elite type families.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, just based on a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff you've talked about, it seems like her parents were

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<v Speaker 2>in some kind of eyes wide shut level society.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's interesting because when we talked to John Gusty,

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<v Speaker 2>he mentioned how this happens multiple times to day all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place, but this one was blown up for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, can I ask you, do you remember it?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how old were you? What year did it happen?

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<v Speaker 8>Ninety six?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say so I would have been thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>if it happened in ninety six.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me see for sure. Yeah, yeah, I was thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>This was one of those that kind of just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about OJ already, some stuff we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about today with Princess Die and jeffkj John

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<v Speaker 2>Beney did dominate the media space.

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<v Speaker 8>Was your mom obsessed over it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't believe so.

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<v Speaker 8>Well. I remember Actually I don't know if you listened

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<v Speaker 8>to part three yet, where I included Jacob's nineties memory Real,

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<v Speaker 8>but he said his mom got obsessed with John Benet, like,

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<v Speaker 8>wouldn't let him leave that stuff. My mom was kind

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<v Speaker 8>of like that too, because she would see these true

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<v Speaker 8>crime things about kids and she'd be like, oh, for sure,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, And I was a Hellian. I was a

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<v Speaker 8>hilacious child to deal with. I was always out and about,

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<v Speaker 8>so I can see why she'd be worried. But at

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<v Speaker 8>the same time, if people knew what actually happened, they

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<v Speaker 8>wouldn't need to even fucking you know what I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's also funny that that would be of

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<v Speaker 2>fear because this, however went down, it was presented that

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<v Speaker 2>it happened in their house. So the fact that this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a Johnny Gosh taking off his fucking brand

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<v Speaker 2>new bicycle on a paper route right thing where I

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<v Speaker 2>could see some hysteria. But I do remember Jacob saying

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<v Speaker 2>that his mom was like not so comfortable letting them

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<v Speaker 2>go outside alone after that. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other people could say the same thing, But this was

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<v Speaker 2>presented as someone broke in and did whatever they did

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<v Speaker 2>and then just left the body.

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<v Speaker 8>In the basement, because that makes so much sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, maybe that is part of the reason this

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<v Speaker 2>was blown up something by you really quick.

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<v Speaker 8>I know we have other fish to fry, but I

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<v Speaker 8>am actually working on this theory for an upcoming episode

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<v Speaker 8>that I have revealed partially to you already. But it's

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<v Speaker 8>almost as if there has been a concerted effort to

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<v Speaker 8>brainwash people into not believing their own eyes. Because if

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<v Speaker 8>you were to look at the facts of this case,

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<v Speaker 8>and actually a lot of things that just don't make

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<v Speaker 8>sense whatsoever, you just look at it and you're like,

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<v Speaker 8>this doesn't fucking add up, This doesn't make sense. But

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<v Speaker 8>it's like we've been trained to not even believe our

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<v Speaker 8>own eyes. Because if you were to look at this

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<v Speaker 8>and say, they somehow broke in, got the kid, did

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<v Speaker 8>all this stuff to him in the basement of the house,

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<v Speaker 8>left the body, and the parents didn't hear anything. And

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<v Speaker 8>then the handwriting on the ransom note is in the

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<v Speaker 8>mom's handwriting. They got the pen from the mom's writing desk,

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<v Speaker 8>and the notepad that they wrote it on was from

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<v Speaker 8>the mom's stuff. And it's like, right, they train you,

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<v Speaker 8>They purposely do this stuff to you to make you

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<v Speaker 8>not even believe your own eyes. It's just it's like

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<v Speaker 8>blatantly obvious. And if you were to not know any

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<v Speaker 8>of the backstory but hear all the stuff that I

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<v Speaker 8>present in my John Benet presentation, it's almost an absurd

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<v Speaker 8>level of evidence pointing to the parents at all times

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<v Speaker 8>throughout the entire investigation. But we're just not supposed to

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<v Speaker 8>believe it because that's not the mainstream narrative, so therefore

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<v Speaker 8>it can't be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I always remember mainstream thinking people there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who were very suspicious of the parents,

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<v Speaker 2>not conspiracy. There's type people, just normal everyday people. So

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that the way this story has been presented,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a spider web. You can go in

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<v Speaker 2>any direction with it. But I wasn't it just recently,

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<v Speaker 2>probably within the last few months. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>around Christmas that they mentioned the dad was in the

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<v Speaker 2>press again and the mom died of brain cancer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 8>She died of ovarian cancer.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You also saw a lot of people pointing to the brother, right.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, but it's just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think anybody who knew the facts of

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<v Speaker 2>the case ever really thought someone broke.

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<v Speaker 8>Side intruder theory. I don't feel like people bought that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you go on to say it probably happened at

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<v Speaker 2>a party outside the home and they panicked and brought

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<v Speaker 2>her back and concocted this big plan.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, that's what the evidence would support. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>like I said before, all the specifics, you can go

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<v Speaker 8>back on the Cult of Conspiracy and look for my

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<v Speaker 8>episode on that, or you can go to actually covered

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<v Speaker 8>it twice in two different Christmas specials on my own show,

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<v Speaker 8>so you can go back. It's called on my show,

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<v Speaker 8>it's called Little Miss Christmas Ritual, but I forget I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know what the Cult called it. When I went

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<v Speaker 8>on their show and did it. It was actually recently.

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<v Speaker 8>It was last summer. I did that on the Cult

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<v Speaker 8>of Conspiracy, So maybe go back and look for that.

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<v Speaker 8>But something else that happened in the nineties that we

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<v Speaker 8>talked about in Blood Ties, our last series together that

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<v Speaker 8>I want to move on to, would be Jeffrey Dahmer

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<v Speaker 8>and John Wayne Gacy with that weird synchronicity where it

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<v Speaker 8>was like Jeff got baptized on the same day John

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<v Speaker 8>Wayne Gacy was executed, and it was an eclipse day

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<v Speaker 8>and it Yeah, it was like an eclipse and that

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<v Speaker 8>happened you guessed it in the nineties. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 8>that at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I think I mentioned in the Blood Ties

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<v Speaker 2>series that I was kind of very, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>intrigued by the Yeah, just the whole Dahmer story, all

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And he had already died and been beaten

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<v Speaker 2>to death in prison when I stumbled upon it, So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. But yeah, So jeff Dahmer was baptized

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<v Speaker 2>on the same way John Dwayne Gacy was executed, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's an eclipse day, so you can have fun with

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're into the cult ritual stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like people don't realize how long John Wayne

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<v Speaker 8>Gacy sat on death row because he was what sixties

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<v Speaker 8>or seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how old he would have been.

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<v Speaker 8>No, No, he was doing all that shit in the

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<v Speaker 8>sixties or seventies, seventies, So he sat on death row

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<v Speaker 8>for like twenty years before he was executed. But he wasn't. Actually,

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<v Speaker 8>they weren't actually the only serial killers of note in

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<v Speaker 8>the nineties. In nineteen ninety four, Gary Ray Bowles went

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<v Speaker 8>on an eight month killing spree and became known as

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<v Speaker 8>the I ninety five killer. And I had actually never

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<v Speaker 8>heard of this guy. He must not be a CIA

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<v Speaker 8>one because they haven't glorified him at all. Had you

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<v Speaker 8>ever heard of this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he mentioned the program to kill him?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. His name does not sound familiar to me

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 8>So to me when I see names like this, and

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<v Speaker 8>it's like, oh, he went on an eight month killing

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<v Speaker 8>spree and became known as the I ninety five killer

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<v Speaker 8>and nobody knows about it. Maybe he was just like

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember his body count by chance?

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<v Speaker 8>Let's look it up, because eight months is plenty enough

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<v Speaker 8>time to run through some bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're proactive, you could knock off quite a

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<v Speaker 8>Oh see, that's why nobody knows about him. He only

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<v Speaker 2>He spread his victims out. He didn't even get one

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he sucks our serial killers go.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like a nice guy. Yeah, he looks like

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<v Speaker 8>Man. Oh no, sorry, he was from Virginia, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>But he went to Florida State. I guess. So died

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida State prison lethal injection.

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<v Speaker 8>See this guy got lethal injection and he only killed

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<v Speaker 8>six people. Was uh, damer on death row? Or did

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<v Speaker 8>he get life? I feel like he got life.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't in death row?

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<v Speaker 8>You're right? I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin? M Where was he in prison?

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<v Speaker 8>Ohio? Wouldn't he?

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<v Speaker 8>Hang on?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was Wisconsin. Yeah, Columbia Columbia Correctional Institution, Portage, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe their death penalty laws. Look that up.

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<v Speaker 8>He was serving sixteen consecutive life sentences.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look up if Wisconsin has the death penalty. No,

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<v Speaker 2>so there you go.

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<v Speaker 8>That's how he got off of.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been tried in Florida, they would have fucked him.

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<v Speaker 8>Up like Ted Bundy. They fucking electrocuted his asshole off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to see how that that would go in

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<v Speaker 8>He was a crispy critter.

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<v Speaker 2>They elect ahole off. That probably hurt.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, okay, so moving on though. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of like little things I want to mention, and then

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<v Speaker 8>there's like a few big things I want to spend

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<v Speaker 8>these things in the Pedaphocracy and Uncle Sam wants your Children.

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<v Speaker 8>But I don't think people realize how recent they are

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<v Speaker 8>because I mentioned these names and I say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>Paul Binassi and Da da da da da. All that

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<v Speaker 8>shit with the Franklin scandal and the mc martin shit

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<v Speaker 8>happened in the night. Well it started in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 8>right with the Franklin shit, but it was mainly in

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<v Speaker 8>shit that was in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Franklin scandal. It's pretty wide scoping. It started

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<v Speaker 2>in the late seventies, kind of crossing over into the

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<v Speaker 2>eighty But I remember when I researched Franklin. Most of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff kind of happened in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 8>Really, because I feel like Paul Barnassi was a nineties kid. No,

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<v Speaker 8>are you positive? Yes? So if I google it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're wrong, I don't believe in Google.

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<v Speaker 8>Nineteen eighty eight. So it trickled over into the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>The allegations began in eighty eight when he was active

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets. He's not a nineties kid. Can't you

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<v Speaker 2>find his birthday? I'm sure a lot of the trials

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, because like he did a civil suit.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if the allegation started in the eighties, then he's

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<v Speaker 8>not a nineties No, I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>When did Johnny Gosh get nabbed? That would have been

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<v Speaker 2>early in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he would have been a teenager at that point.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know why I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, think about like the civil suit and everything. If

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<v Speaker 2>the allegations begin in the eighties, in the late eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see this.

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<v Speaker 8>The civil suit was in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>I could probably if the allegations only started surfacing in

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<v Speaker 2>the late eighties, when this stuff had been going on

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<v Speaker 2>for a decade, I would figure that like with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because there was the perjury of Alicia mm hmm, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that was in the nineties. It probably was, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this this would count. It definitely spilled over into the nineties.

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<v Speaker 8>And then the mc martin preschool trials took place in

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<v Speaker 8>the nineties, I know for sure. So, I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 8>spoken about both of these things at nauseum, but I've

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<v Speaker 8>never really gotten your take on either one. I know

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<v Speaker 8>that we talk about it in person or not in person.

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<v Speaker 8>We talk about it in private, but we don't We've

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<v Speaker 8>never like an episode on it or anything. You had

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<v Speaker 8>actually started researching the Franklin scandal before I ever even

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<v Speaker 8>knew about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard about it from Tim Dillon, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>weird place to hear about it, because he used to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of skirt on like maybe I'm into conspiracies and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm not, but he's gone full blown. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was in Omaha, Nebraska, and he was like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>were at this diner, and every fucking person in there,

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<v Speaker 2>they just had this dead stare, like they were mk

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<v Speaker 2>altered as a kid. I mean, this is where the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Franklin scandal happened. And I had heard whispers of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but after Tim Dillon talked about it, I looked into

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<v Speaker 2>it and Jeremiah and I, my co host on Conspiracy Playtime,

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<v Speaker 2>did I was actually one of my episodes of a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive. So that was one of the darker episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>We did probably snuck some stupid jokes in there, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was bleak, and I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I know that there's a lot I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that this is when I first started

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<v Speaker 2>hearing whispers of Hunter S. Thompson being a fucking ultra creep.

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<v Speaker 2>So this the Franklin scandal. Yeah, it's it's not for

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<v Speaker 2>the faint of heart, but I think it's something that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody should know about. And many people in the mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy crowd these days like to say that the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are the sexual predators. But this happened with republic stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in the White House, as Paul and many others attested

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<v Speaker 2>to these after hour parties, that was a Republican administration.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there's so much stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>Larry King, not the talk show host, was a black

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<v Speaker 8>Republican guy who was involved with these credit unions and shit,

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<v Speaker 8>and he was running these fucking pedophile rings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had ties with Boystown, a local chapter where

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<v Speaker 2>he would victims and as we alluded to earlier, he

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<v Speaker 2>had victims turned recruiters. And there's the whole story that

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Banasi did or at least was there when Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh was nabbed. So he saw some.

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<v Speaker 8>Weird shit, like you said with Hunter S. Thompson so

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<v Speaker 8>at Bohemian Grove. Let's just say, if the allegation started

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<v Speaker 8>in eighty eight, that's probably why I included it is

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<v Speaker 8>because the trial.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in the night. Well, let's just safely guess that

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<v Speaker 2>this wasn't being talked about on a large scale until

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties, and so probably Martin as well. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>one's even more covered up. I would say, oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the lynx they went to with some of

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<v Speaker 2>these parents.

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<v Speaker 8>To bury this shit. Oh my god, it's so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>They should make we should make it sucking documentary about

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<v Speaker 8>fucking the mc martin preschool, because they make documentaries about

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<v Speaker 8>all this stuff. I've never I had never heard of that.

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<v Speaker 8>It's supposedly the longest running trial in US history, and

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<v Speaker 8>there's not a documentary on it on Netflix, not even

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<v Speaker 8>a bad one. At least Waco got a bad one

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<v Speaker 8>that McMartin doesn't see the light of day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a presidio as well. I think that was eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>so right. I'm just saying as far as how they

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<v Speaker 2>get buried, something so horrendous and widespread was able to

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<v Speaker 2>be covered.

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<v Speaker 8>Up the way it was well, I mean, speaking of

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<v Speaker 8>Netflix documentary, so kind of like the Dahmer Show on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 8>They recently came out, what was it last year with

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<v Speaker 8>another nineties phase that I talked about in the Pedaphocracy series,

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<v Speaker 8>which was the Menindez Brothers. And actually I got someone

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<v Speaker 8>message me through my link tree and asked me if

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<v Speaker 8>I was going to ever talk about the Menendez brothers.

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<v Speaker 8>But I already had in the Pedaphocracy series, and then

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<v Speaker 8>out of nowhere they come up with this Netflix show

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<v Speaker 8>about it. I mean, what are your thoughts. I know

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<v Speaker 8>we have kind of talked about it before, maybe, but

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<v Speaker 8>just kind of recapping your thoughts on the Menendez brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is one I've never really been that

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<v Speaker 2>interested to like actually doing some deep research into On

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<v Speaker 2>the surface level, it looks like some extreme abuse took

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<v Speaker 2>place and they had had enough. But I know there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other trends of thought there.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I'll give you the cliffs notes. Is their father

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<v Speaker 8>was raping the dog shit out of them, their mom

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<v Speaker 8>most definitely knew about it and did nothing. And the

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<v Speaker 8>one brother woke up one day and literally shot the

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<v Speaker 8>faces off of the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>So why did they both go down?

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<v Speaker 8>That's a good question. Maybe I need to revisit the details.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe the brother helped in some capacity. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>but I think that the thought was that they did

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<v Speaker 8>it together and premeditated this attack on the parents. But

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<v Speaker 8>I likened it to many other types of crimes of passion,

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<v Speaker 8>where if you just wanted to get your parents' money,

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<v Speaker 8>why would you go to the links of creating this

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<v Speaker 8>rape story that is like they had been molested by

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<v Speaker 8>their dads and from a very young age, and go

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<v Speaker 8>to the links of like multiple shots to the face.

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<v Speaker 8>When you see something like that, you should start wondering

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<v Speaker 8>what the fuck is going on, because you can kill

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<v Speaker 8>someone without blowing the face off of them. Several several times,

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<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean. Usually kids who experienced severe

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<v Speaker 8>abuse go for the face of their attacker, kind of

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<v Speaker 8>like and I mentioned this in the Pedaphocracy series, but

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<v Speaker 8>it's worth mentioning again. With Lizzie Borden, they could never

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<v Speaker 8>pin it on her, but there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>rumors and allegations that she was being abused by her father,

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<v Speaker 8>and her sister was also being abused by her father,

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<v Speaker 8>and the step mom knew about it and didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 8>And Lizzie literally axed the face off of her father

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<v Speaker 8>and her stepmom. So with the Menindez brothers to me

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<v Speaker 8>and they're saying, my dad raped me from a young age,

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<v Speaker 8>it all of it looks to me like a crime

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<v Speaker 8>of peer rage and passion, like to remove the face

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<v Speaker 8>of someone. It's beyond just like, I want your money

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<v Speaker 8>because they almost made the Menindez brothers look like spoiled fags.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they added some gay incest shit, didn't they end

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<v Speaker 2>the net? They?

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like Netflix always does a great job of

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<v Speaker 8>like convoluting what the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it really is. It seems like a Gus Van

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<v Speaker 2>Sant production.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know what I mean though, right they made

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<v Speaker 8>the Menindez brothers out to look like Valley Boys or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I never watched it, so I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know that there was some controversy, and also after this

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<v Speaker 2>series they're looking at possibly partying them. They should be pardoned,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just goes to show you.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, this is a great time to bring

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<v Speaker 8>this up, because I believe that the Menindez brothers should

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<v Speaker 8>have gotten what do they call it, guilty by insanity

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<v Speaker 8>or innocent by insanity or what do they call it?

428
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can plead insanity.

429
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<v Speaker 8>Do you have to go to jail if you plead insanity?

430
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<v Speaker 2>It just depends on the judge and the jury. But

431
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<v Speaker 2>I would assume that in most cases, I mean, were

432
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<v Speaker 2>they minors at the time, So yeah, I would assume

433
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<v Speaker 2>that institutionalization probably could have been the harshest punishment if

434
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.799
<v Speaker 2>they got off on an insanity plea.

435
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<v Speaker 8>Well, let's just say, in my opinion, I don't think

436
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<v Speaker 8>that they should have had to serve any time for

437
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 8>what it was that they did to their parents, and

438
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 8>I hope that they do get pardoned. But let's take

439
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 8>the next nineties case that you always talk about pisses

440
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 8>me off sometimes, which says the West Memphis three and

441
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 8>those shittheads did get pardoned, and I don't think they

442
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 8>should have.

443
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, they didn't get pardoned.

444
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 8>They they got let out.

445
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they did an Alford plea.

446
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:41.240
<v Speaker 8>But didn't they get let out because people were all

447
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 8>like free, free the fact.

448
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're talking so many years later, but they

449
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>struck a plea where an Alford plea is where you

450
00:26:54.039 --> 00:27:00.519
<v Speaker 2>admit guilt in exchange for your freedom. I'm probably not

451
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:06.839
<v Speaker 2>putting that in the most legal scholarly terms, but it's basically,

452
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>we know we didn't do it, but we'll say we

453
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>did if you let us out.

454
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 8>Oh fuck off, that's really what they got.

455
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, look it up on your phone. Look up Alfred plea.

456
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't even know how to spell it. Is it

457
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 8>Alfred or Alfred? Alfred drt Alford plea, Alford plea a

458
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 8>guilty plea in which the defendant maintains their innocence. Well

459
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.039
<v Speaker 8>fuck them, that's what they got off on. But go

460
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 8>ahead and tell all the good listeners.

461
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 2>What do you think I think we did talk about.

462
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 8>Did we talk about it in Blood Ties?

463
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>It may have been, but yeah, I don't think this

464
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 2>ever happened.

465
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 8>You think it was all stage.

466
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think many things are real and many things

467
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>are staged.

468
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:09.079
<v Speaker 8>And well, one of our other nineties besties, Johnny Depp, Yeah,

469
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 8>serious connections.

470
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Vedder, I think recorded a song with Damian Eccles

471
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>and I mean the whole thing. You gotta watch.

472
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<v Speaker 8>Paradise I'm sorry, go ahead.

473
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Paradise Lost is a HBO production. It's a trilogy documentary

474
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>series about the whole thing. And if you watch it

475
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 2>as though this whole thing is orchestrated, it becomes very apparent.

476
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>And I did not come up with this on my own.

477
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>In fact, this is a guest that we always mentioned

478
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.359
<v Speaker 2>on this show, John Gusty. I just asked him what

479
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>he thought of the whole thing because we were kind

480
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 2>of on, you know, a tangent, and he basically told me,

481
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't and understand him at first, that the

482
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>whole thing was fake, and I had the typical visceral

483
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>reaction for a second, and then I heard him out

484
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>and he's absolutely right, and it's got all the markings

485
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>of a fucking hardcore psyop production.

486
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 8>Well, I was gonna say, if I'm going with your

487
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 8>theory and I'm just entertaining you I'm not saying you're right,

488
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 8>so don't get a big head or anything.

489
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you agree with me or not.

490
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes you do, oh, I would see.

491
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 8>Your day if I don't agree with you. If I'm

492
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 8>gonna just humor this idea. It would make sense for

493
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 8>an actor to be friends with another actor, right, Damian

494
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 8>Eckles is just an actor playing a role, so I

495
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 8>believe also Marilyn Manson and Johnny Deppa actors playing roles.

496
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 8>So it would make sense that both of those idiots

497
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 8>are friends with Damian Eccles. They're all just fucking actors

498
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 8>playing roles. So I mean I might, I might be

499
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 8>able to get on board.

500
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>You're quicker to agree with me that the Tait murders

501
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>were staged than you are of a these because.

502
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 8>I've talked about it at nauseum with the likes of

503
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 8>William Ramsey and I've even I think even Sean mccannon

504
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 8>has talked about it before a little bit. I can't

505
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 8>remember if it was Sean or not. But the point

506
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 8>is is, if you just look at it from I

507
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 8>guess the mainstream narrative, it's really fucked up. What if

508
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 8>these little boys died like that.

509
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 9>Well.

510
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>And one of the main arguments of the guy who

511
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>convinced me that this was staged is the parents' willingness

512
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to participate in the documentary and have the kid's dead

513
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 2>naked bodies plastered everywhere and HBO making a profit off

514
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 2>of this. He said, I, as a parent, if my

515
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>teen boys are preteen boys, I mean they were like

516
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>little kids, he said. Yeah, he said, I don't have

517
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>little kids, but I have uh, you know, early adult

518
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>kids that were little at one point. And if they

519
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>if this had happened to them, I would fucking break

520
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>into the office of the HBO headquarters and do horrible

521
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>things before I would ever let that footage out. And

522
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>not only did they let them, Not only did they

523
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 2>let the footage out, they participated in the documentary. There's

524
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a step dad who just goes full fucking retard reality TV.

525
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's like cursing the three the kids accused

526
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>of it, and then by the time the second and

527
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 2>third movie comes out, he's on their side. And then

528
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.519
<v Speaker 2>they try to say they they found DNA evidence that

529
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>pointed to another step dad of the kids. Oh yes,

530
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 2>So the whole thing is like reality TV, and this

531
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>was an age where reality TV, well it hadn't hit

532
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 2>that level yet, so you got to see like documentaries

533
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 2>it for sure. Yeah, but documentaries have always had the

534
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>tendency to lean that way, and it just I can't

535
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>imagine wanting to have my kids remembered that way now,

536
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>let alone make them, you know, be in a movie

537
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>about it. So and that's not the only thing that

538
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>makes me think this, but it was the thing that

539
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>made me really kind of start to lean that way.

540
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 8>I get it, for sure.

541
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And you also got to consider what you always say

542
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 2>about what chaos was ensued by late sixties broad burning feminism,

543
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>being independence clashing with the fact that as soon as

544
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>they're out there being independent, there's people that are gonna

545
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking pick you up on the side of the road

546
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 2>and cut you up into pieces. So you have the

547
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 2>satanic panic going on. And then this happens and you're

548
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>shown like a compassionate side to these kids who all

549
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 2>they ever did wrong was fucking read Aleister Crowley and

550
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 2>listen to heavy metal and do all this stuff, And

551
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>so they were ostracized by the community and just automatically

552
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>guilty in the minds of thousands of people paying attention

553
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 2>to this case and they put that shit on trial.

554
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>That was what the whole trial was was satanic panic.

555
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 8>And you think they were pushing an agenda, of course,

556
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 8>Well that fucking makes sense.

557
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's weird because you had in the eighties

558
00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 2>and nineties people like Phil Donahue platforming well known Satanists.

559
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 9>You know.

560
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Zeena Leavey, one of our favorites on the show, Well,

561
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>who am I going to say?

562
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 8>Taylor?

563
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Wow? Said zena mister eyebrows.

564
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 8>Queene.

565
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 2>He would be talking about how he was a Satanist.

566
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>He would show up on these talk shows in full

567
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking military garb with fucking two erect eyebrows. I mean,

568
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>they were showing us all of this stuff in such

569
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>a way that you didn't really know what to think

570
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>about any of it. And let alone in the Bible Belt,

571
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 2>which tennessee right, if you want to talk about daytime

572
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:54.039
<v Speaker 2>TV watchers, it's the Bible Belt. I mean, it's everywhere,

573
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>but it's just one of those things where a giant

574
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Laurel Canyon type psyop was taking place over the nation

575
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and the West. Memphis Three were right in the middle of,

576
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>like the epitome of it. So the fact that that

577
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be controlled. And even if it did happen, they

578
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>still would have controlled it. But I don't think it did.

579
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 8>If you don't like Colby, Siri, you can always read

580
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 8>William Ramsey's book. He's done a great job actually laying

581
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 8>out some cool stuff about it.

582
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I love William Ramsey.

583
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 8>It doesn't matter. You can go with Colby's way or

584
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 8>you can go William Ramsey's way. I think either way

585
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 8>you go though. It's a fucked up, fucking story. And

586
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 8>if that really did happen to those kids, I feel

587
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 8>sorry for them.

588
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Well think of it. Think of it this way. If

589
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen to those kids, and I'm right, nobody died.

590
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well see, there you go. But on to our

591
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 8>dishonorable serial killer mention of this segment. It's gonna be

592
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:59.599
<v Speaker 8>Paul Bernardo and Carla Hamulka. I did see they put

593
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 8>a new documentary on Hulu about these assholes. It's called

594
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 8>The Barbie and Kin Killers. I'm sure you've seen it

595
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 8>pop up. But I think I was actually talking to

596
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 8>Teresa from The Occult Rejects and we mentioned how I

597
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 8>believe these two got started in the late eighties. But

598
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:23.559
<v Speaker 8>it definitely trickled over into the nineties, and it was

599
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 8>in Canada, and essentially it's the story this like Stockholm syndrome,

600
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 8>bullsh Do you are you familiar.

601
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 2>With it at all at all?

602
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.000
<v Speaker 8>So basically, Paul Bernardo was a rape a serial rapist.

603
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 8>He wasn't murdering anyone yet, and he basically swept Carla

604
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 8>off of her feet and they started. She started procuring

605
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 8>girls for him to rape, and they would like make

606
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 8>videos and shit about it. And one day, one night,

607
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.440
<v Speaker 8>he was like, well, you know, I'd really like to

608
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 8>rape your sister. And she was young, like maybe thirteen

609
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 8>or fourteen or something like that. And Carla, who worked

610
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 8>as like a vet assistant, a vet tech, brought some

611
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 8>like horse tranquilizers home and literally, yeah, they doped her

612
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 8>sister up too much and he raped her on a

613
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 8>video and once they were done doing whatever, they were like, whoops,

614
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 8>we killed her, and then they had to get rid

615
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 8>of her her own sister. I mean, and this is like,

616
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 8>to me, one of those classic stock from syndrome, Like

617
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.039
<v Speaker 8>how can you meet a woman and convince her that

618
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 8>you could you should be raping other women in front

619
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 8>of her? It's not like she engaged in the rape.

620
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 8>She just watched him as he raped other women, and

621
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 8>then it like got crazier and crazier to the point

622
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 8>where he was killing him.

623
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 2>So the sister was the first victim and they kind

624
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>of spiraled out after that.

625
00:37:54.639 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like, iagin being

626
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 8>so brainwashed by someone. It's like, this is your romantic

627
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 8>partner that is supposed to be your boyfriend, and he's like,

628
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 8>not only do I want to sleep with other chicks,

629
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 8>I want to rape them in front of you, and

630
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 8>I want you to take a video of me doing it.

631
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Tradwife material.

632
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's just crazy. But so the Barbie and

633
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 8>King Killers they broke off. They started in the eighties

634
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 8>and broke off into the nineties and they are the

635
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 8>dishonorable serial killer mentioned for this segment. But we're actually

636
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 8>going to take a quick break and when we come back,

637
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<v Speaker 8>we're going to move on to bigger and better things.

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<v Speaker 8>Hang on, we'll be back in just a minute.

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<v Speaker 10>Greetings, this is Sean McCann of Wake the Dead podcast.

640
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 10>I remember about the nineties, it was a core time

641
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 10>of my life. I remember mostly the music, the beginning

642
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 10>of the nineties was Metallica. You know, it started in

643
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 10>I guess the eighties was White Snake and def Leppard,

644
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 10>but then it turned Metallica in like eighty eight, eighty nine,

645
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 10>I remember big Metallica, and then Metallica gave way to

646
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 10>the nineties music. I mean, it wasn't really Nirvana that

647
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 10>changed everything. I think it was Metallica at least in

648
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:50.280
<v Speaker 10>my life, and then after that it was metal. I

649
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 10>only listened to metal when I was like at home

650
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 10>chilling out. I would listen to D Side, Cannibal Corpse

651
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 10>or something. You know, it was really really something else.

652
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 10>People thought I was weird. Yeah, but when you're trying

653
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 10>to chill out to a song and my strip draped

654
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 10>its strangles, people might think you're really weird. That's what

655
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 10>the nineties did to me. Yeah. So nineteen ninety six

656
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 10>was Marilyn Manson nine Inch Nails. They all they had

657
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 10>huge albums that year and it was a really big deal.

658
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 10>My first big concert was in nineteen ninety seven. Went

659
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 10>to go see Pantera and that was amazing, phenomenal, and

660
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 10>I was in the pit and it was total violence.

661
00:40:54.880 --> 00:41:01.320
<v Speaker 10>It was ultra violence for sure. Let's see trench coats

662
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 10>and the whole Columbine School shooting. In the nineties. Let's see,

663
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 10>I referred to myself as a Satanist, and I was

664
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 10>fighting all religion and all forms every chance I got,

665
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:28.119
<v Speaker 10>which was really the eighties had the Satanic panic, and

666
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 10>then the TV shows like Oprah and Sally and all

667
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 10>of them really brought the Satanism into our living rooms

668
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 10>for our parents to absorb. And you know, I thought

669
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 10>it really wasn't connected at the time, but now I

670
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 10>see how that is what opened a door to the

671
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 10>nineties and the nineties music and like Ninish Nails talking

672
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:05.960
<v Speaker 10>about yeah, killing Jesus, Jesus is bad, and then the

673
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 10>acide saying about how Jesus is bad.

674
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 8>You know.

675
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 10>Let's see. Oh, yep, that's when I learned to smoke cannabis,

676
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 10>and cannabis at the beginning, it starts. I mean, it

677
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 10>might be because I was young and I got older,

678
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 10>but at the beginning it was downtown brown from there's

679
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 10>sticks and stems, brown from gross weed. Cannabis was not

680
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 10>so good, and that all of a sudden towards the

681
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 10>middle to late nineties, and it gave way to beasters.

682
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 10>Some of you might remember the beasters. These are BC

683
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 10>buds British Columbia, and they were especially bred to have

684
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 10>no smell. It's really weird. I mean they they would

685
00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:04.199
<v Speaker 10>have no seed and it would be like sensy, you know,

686
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:09.880
<v Speaker 10>and nice big buds with lots of crystals. It's and

687
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.199
<v Speaker 10>it would come in two bags, like you'd get a pound,

688
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 10>and it would be a blue bag and a clear bag,

689
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 10>and it's It was weird how it came like that,

690
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 10>and the blue bag was the better buds or something. Anyway,

691
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 10>it it was. It flooded the market and people used

692
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 10>to bring it down from Canada through the I lived

693
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 10>in New England and they would come through the the

694
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 10>Indian Territory of New York State. They would walk it

695
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 10>over in big Duffel bags and yeah, that stuff it

696
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 10>smelled like, Hey, it was weird and now that I

697
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 10>think about it, it's gross. But I mean I was

698
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 10>just glad to not be smoking the brown stuff. So yeah,

699
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 10>there was that was big. Last was everywhere I didn't

700
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 10>partake when I was young. I didn't I don't know,

701
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 10>but everywhere it was. I mean I grew up in

702
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:19.119
<v Speaker 10>a college to kind of a I grew up in Westfield, Massachusetts,

703
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 10>and there is a lot it was. It's weird, but

704
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.440
<v Speaker 10>it was near Amherst, mass and that was a big

705
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.960
<v Speaker 10>party school. For some reason, Westfield was like where it

706
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 10>came from. But anyway, yeah, I guess it. The nineties

707
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 10>started out neon like like the fourth season is Stranger Things,

708
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 10>you know, Neon yellow and puffy, and then at the

709
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 10>end it ended up very satanic, I mean, just satanism.

710
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 10>It was the cool thing, you know. Let's see is

711
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 10>for movies, there was Natural Born Killers that was huge,

712
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 10>and Lost Highway David Lynch, Rest of Peace David Lynch,

713
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:13.639
<v Speaker 10>and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. That was the

714
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 10>nineties America Online. Oh yeah, oh Ninth Gate. The nineties

715
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 10>movies ended with the Ninth Gate and Eyes Wide Shut,

716
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.559
<v Speaker 10>and both of them filmed at that same mansion. Meant

717
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 10>more towers. Let's see Kurt Cobain, the death of Kurt Cobain,

718
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:42.920
<v Speaker 10>that whole murder was a trauma, was a trauma ritual

719
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 10>to make us cry. Same with Jerry. Jerry Garcia died

720
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 10>a year later. There was that whole revival of the

721
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 10>Raateful Dead, and then Jerry goes into rehab and dies

722
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 10>like two weeks later something like that. That really made

723
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 10>everybody cry. That was a big deal, and I think

724
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 10>that got popular from the John Lennon one all of

725
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.199
<v Speaker 10>a sudden it was I don't know they maybe it's

726
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 10>always been popular. But the Dark Occult wanted to kill

727
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 10>our heroes, you know. I mean they destroyed Kurt like

728
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 10>they Courtney destroyed Kurt with heroin long before they killed

729
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 10>him with a shotgun. So that was just a slow

730
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 10>burn of the killing of her king.

731
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess.

732
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 10>So let's see, Yeah, I guess that's it. I mean,

733
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 10>Julia here has he's doing a great job helping us

734
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:51.519
<v Speaker 10>to remember in the nineties, and I hope these few

735
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 10>things is a little bit of a addition to that.

736
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 10>And we hope he enjoyed that. And me out and

737
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.719
<v Speaker 10>make the dead thank you.

738
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 8>And we are back. Did you enjoy the break? Took

739
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 8>a nice pea, did a line of coke off my asshole?

740
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:29.079
<v Speaker 8>Hey now, hey, now, hey, no, is that a nineties song?

741
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>People are gonna think you're serious?

742
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh dream.

743
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Is it a nineties song or not?

744
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Sounds super eighties?

745
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 8>No way, let me look it up.

746
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the song's called.

747
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 8>I'm just gonna put in Hey, now, hey.

748
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:52.159
<v Speaker 2>You're an Austar. It's the nineties. Get pay.

749
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 8>Oh this is what dreams are made of? Is that

750
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 8>the lyrics? Now that's not Oh yeah, don't dream it's over.

751
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eighty six, not even close. Fuck you totally. You

752
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 2>can tell it's eighties listening to it.

753
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 8>Okay, well did you know that because your oldest fuck.

754
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And I mean according to you, I'm an eighties kid.

755
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 8>You are when when you were?

756
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 2>You born eighty three? So I was three when that

757
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>song came out. Okay, so you totally remember. I was

758
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>sitting in my car seat.

759
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Going hey, okay. So, for all you Apple users out there,

760
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 8>how do you like this one? In the nineties, Microsoft

761
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 8>saved Apple from bankruptcy. Bill Gates announced days before Apple

762
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 8>would have filed for bankruptcy that Microsoft would supply a

763
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 8>one hundred and fifty million dollar investment and jobs. Told

764
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 8>the crowd, quote, we have to let go of the

765
00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 8>notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. Quote.

766
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 8>So for all you fuckers out there that love your

767
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.199
<v Speaker 8>iPhone so much, that includes me, you have Bill Gates

768
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 8>to thank for that. And I actually didn't.

769
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Know that at all.

770
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you. Uh, Now that you mentioned it, it's familiar.

771
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not some information I would have been able to

772
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 2>pull out. But yeah, I do remember that was a thing.

773
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Apple was dog shit.

774
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think it's interesting because.

775
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean they definitely kind of were innovative in the

776
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>very beginning and then they just fucking disappeared, but jobs

777
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.800
<v Speaker 2>ended up leaving and coming back and making the Apple

778
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>we know today. So but we have Bill Gates to

779
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 2>think for it, we have Bill Gates to think for everything.

780
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 8>Well, I just think it's crazy, like everybody's so in

781
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 8>love with their fucking iPhone and they talk all this shit,

782
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 8>mad shit about Bill Gates. I'm guilty of it, obviously,

783
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 8>but it's like he saved us so we can all

784
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.440
<v Speaker 8>enjoy our iPhones and iPads, MacBook pros.

785
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Who went out for father Bill.

786
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, thanks Bill.

787
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Also in the nineties, I think that was maybe just

788
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>an attempt of his to kind of create grab control

789
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 2>of his competitor.

790
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

791
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean that's another in that way. That's another

792
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 2>big thing that happened in the nineties. Everybody knows this

793
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.679
<v Speaker 2>fucking nice guy who likes to wear sweaters and I

794
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 2>have eighteen parasson he got in trouble for some shit.

795
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>He fucking yeah. Before he switched from the suit and tie,

796
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:39.519
<v Speaker 2>he was being tried by the fucking federal government for

797
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 2>monopoly and he was a prick. And then he used

798
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:51.079
<v Speaker 2>the Rockefeller model to move from that into his philanthropy,

799
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.320
<v Speaker 2>which has done such great work all around the world.

800
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 8>Yeah the end, his philanthropy has cost millions their lives.

801
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 8>But also in the nineties, we observed the birth of Google,

802
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 8>our favorite search engine.

803
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that?

804
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:11.599
<v Speaker 11>Yes?

805
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 8>Were you the first to google something?

806
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 2>No, but we did. My high school was one of

807
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the first in the state of Idaho to get Internet. Oh,

808
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 2>got in the school so fucking old in the school

809
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was in the goold. I mean

810
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 2>back then the internet. I don't even think Google is

811
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 2>a thing. This would have been like ninety five or six.

812
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 8>Gosh, you're just aging yourself horribly.

813
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm a real nineties kid, not a coother. I'm a

814
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a double lots kid. And then I grew

815
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 2>up in the nineties.

816
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 8>My dirty ass hat says made in the nineties, made.

817
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.400
<v Speaker 2>In the nineties, grown in the double dots.

818
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 8>What else? So something I wanted to get your opinion

819
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.639
<v Speaker 8>on that my brother mentioned in his nineties wrap up

820
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 8>was the upsurge of people seeing UFO activity and the

821
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:08.199
<v Speaker 8>Phoenix lights.

822
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Which I actually he called them the Arizona lights.

823
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but that's what he meant. Yes, sure, So I

824
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 8>actually didn't know this was a thing until he was

825
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 8>talking about it. And then you said you remembered it,

826
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 8>so can you fill.

827
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Me in on the Well, it was like, shit, I

828
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say one hundred UFOs, but it was

829
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>several and oh yeah, and they just set in formation

830
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 2>and hovered above Phoenix for a long fucking time, like hours.

831
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Hundreds No, I said, I don't want to say a hundred,

832
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I would say dozens. What Oh yeah, I mean it

833
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 2>was a lot. And there's so many people that we

834
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 2>talked about more it is, and I actually forgot all

835
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.320
<v Speaker 2>about it. I remember it was on the news for

836
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a while, but it kind of just left real quick.

837
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And then in the early two thousands they made a

838
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>documentary about it that kind of jarred my memory. And

839
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>it was a very odd incident. It's kind of like

840
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the drone shit that's going on now, except for back then,

841
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:14.440
<v Speaker 2>we just assumed this was aliens.

842
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I don't believe in aliens, but I think this

843
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:18.199
<v Speaker 8>is interesting.

844
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, knowing what I know now, I'm sure it

845
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:22.320
<v Speaker 2>was us, right.

846
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 8>So the Phoenix Light. So did you have any UFO

847
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:27.199
<v Speaker 8>encounters in the nineties.

848
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Not the nineties, but you have, I know, because all

849
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 2>mine we're in the two thousands.

850
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 8>But do you feel like there was an uptick in.

851
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.880
<v Speaker 2>UFO activity in the well, I think that it became

852
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:44.280
<v Speaker 2>big again in the zeitgeist. Fuck me for using that word,

853
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 2>but well, the X Files kind of brought oh fucking

854
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:53.280
<v Speaker 2>X File the insurgence of this kind of stuff, and

855
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Son the.

856
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 8>X Files, that's like real life shit that's happening.

857
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>There's so many So the X Files is funny because

858
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I always tell people you could only watch a third

859
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 2>of the episodes and get the main plot line that's

860
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.760
<v Speaker 2>all about like the whole alien thing, but that some

861
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>of the better episodes were the little Monster of the

862
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Week episodes that were really just you know, filler episodes.

863
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>And there was some shit in there that's straight up

864
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.599
<v Speaker 2>like as good as anything that was on Twilight Zone.

865
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Black Goo, fucking Chimera, little fucking Imbred, like Hillbillies. Oh,

866
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the so many fucking great episodes. Have you watched it

867
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 2>off and on?

868
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:37.320
<v Speaker 8>Like we should episode here and there?

869
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.159
<v Speaker 2>You know you should binge that shit because.

870
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 8>While everyone else was watching X Files, I was watching

871
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 8>Forensic Files.

872
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I was an X Files slash Unsolved Mysteries. Oh well,

873
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:51.679
<v Speaker 2>I did watch a lot of My mom didn't let

874
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>me watch that stuff.

875
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.360
<v Speaker 8>But I did you watch it beyond Belief?

876
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:55.719
<v Speaker 1>No?

877
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what that is. That sounds like

878
00:54:58.360 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a newer one.

879
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 8>No, it was the nineties into the two thousands.

880
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Well like early nineties X Files Unsolved Mysteries.

881
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:08.960
<v Speaker 8>I can hear the theme song in my head.

882
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.280
<v Speaker 2>That's he not sleeping at all. Afterwards.

883
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 8>Did you watch No, you didn't The Cryptkeeper? It Tales

884
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 8>from the crypt Oh okay, yeah, I watched that too.

885
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Saturday Night Live got over and then you'd switch over

886
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to Fox and Cryptkeeper would come on. So that's for

887
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:29.639
<v Speaker 2>me a memory of the nineties was SNL followed by

888
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Tells from the Cryptkeeper.

889
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 8>But with all the UFO talk, I think now is

890
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:40.119
<v Speaker 8>a good time to segue into this next topic that

891
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:43.760
<v Speaker 8>you and I have kind of been excited to talk

892
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:50.920
<v Speaker 8>about because it's Heaven's Gate Cult, which I first learned

893
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 8>about from an episode of Ancient Aliens. If you can

894
00:55:55.320 --> 00:56:00.480
<v Speaker 8>believe that. But I have some stuff I've written down

895
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 8>here that I want to run past you, So Heaven's Gate.

896
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:09.760
<v Speaker 8>On March twenty six, nineteen ninety seven, police officers stepped

897
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 8>inside a rented ninety two hundred square foot mansion in

898
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 8>the suburbs of San Diego, where they were immediately greeted

899
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 8>by an overwhelmingly pungent odor. They soon discovered thirty nine

900
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:29.920
<v Speaker 8>dead bodies, each of which was laid in its bed,

901
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:32.199
<v Speaker 8>covered by a purple shroud.

902
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:33.960
<v Speaker 2>The bodies were.

903
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 8>Dressed identically, even the same haircuts and wearing the same

904
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.639
<v Speaker 8>Nike tennis shoes, giving a whole new meaning to just

905
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.920
<v Speaker 8>do it. Heaven's Gate was a religious group founded in

906
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 8>the United States on a belief in UFOs and aliens.

907
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:56.559
<v Speaker 8>They all had this mk ultra like stare, and the

908
00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:01.920
<v Speaker 8>main guy looked straight up clockwork orange. And I'm sure

909
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 8>you've seen him. You actually sent me a clip of

910
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:09.159
<v Speaker 8>him talking. He looks crazy as fuck. And so his

911
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:14.440
<v Speaker 8>name is Marshall Applewhite and he became obsessed with UFOs

912
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 8>in the nineteen sixties. No surprise there there was a

913
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 8>lot of fucking projects going on in the sixties, and

914
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 8>then he met his cult co founder Bonnie Nettles in

915
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:28.800
<v Speaker 8>nineteen seventy two and soon became convinced that they were

916
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 8>the two end time witnesses mentioned in Revelation eleven, and

917
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 8>that the aliens were inhabiting their bodies and giving them visions.

918
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:43.679
<v Speaker 8>Apple White and Nettles were definitely channeling some kind of

919
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 8>spirits in my opinion, and I also believe they conducted

920
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 8>some type of mk ultra program on this dude. And

921
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't you know, Marshall apple White served in the United

922
00:57:56.239 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 8>States Army And how odd Heaven's Gate received a massive

923
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:08.480
<v Speaker 8>influx of funds in late nineteen nineteen seventies of unknown origin.

924
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 8>And what do we know of Bonnie Nettles his sidekick.

925
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Speaker 8>Nettles is known to have studied astrology, theosophy, and the occult,

926
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 8>and apple White and Nettles went by the collective of

927
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.079
<v Speaker 8>the two, as well as the singular names Bow and

928
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.960
<v Speaker 8>Peep and later dough and Teeth, along with Guinea and pig.

929
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 8>But so they go around gathering cult followers, castrating themselves

930
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 8>and practicing witchcraft, which inevitably led leads to the pinnacle

931
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:52.400
<v Speaker 8>moment in time where they decide in order to ascend

932
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 8>into the spaceship and be with the aliens, they must

933
00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 8>drink poison and murder themselves. But first things first, they

934
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.599
<v Speaker 8>must also pack their luggage, shave their heads, wear all

935
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:11.039
<v Speaker 8>black pants and shirts with a custom logo on the

936
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:16.119
<v Speaker 8>breast pocket, and matching black and white Nikes. The logo,

937
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.719
<v Speaker 8>by the way, is a pyramid with shooting stars and

938
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 8>the sun rising on the solstice, and it simply says

939
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 8>Heaven's Gate Away Team. And as I stated before, they

940
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:32.639
<v Speaker 8>were covered in three by three purple shrouds and some

941
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.119
<v Speaker 8>even had plastic bags over their head. Somehow this just

942
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 8>ends up as another Colt story, but I feel like

943
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.519
<v Speaker 8>there was much more going on. What are your thoughts

944
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 8>and feelings on the Heaven's Gate.

945
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Cold, Well, this for me was a big one. Like Dahmer,

946
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was thirteen, probably almost fourteen when this happened,

947
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was like Dateline or one of those primetime

948
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:07.320
<v Speaker 2>news shows, and there's a cameraman walking down a hallway

949
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and there's just remember that rows of bunk beds and

950
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the purple covering and then the Nike shoes sticking out

951
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 2>and that memory. I don't know. I was instantly terrified

952
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and fascinated, and I ended up in seventh grade doing

953
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 2>a report on it. And now your conspiracy brain, well,

954
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:39.880
<v Speaker 2>this just seems like another Yeah, grabbed a guy in

955
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the army, in the army right, somewhat of a checkered history.

956
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 2>And also there's so much into this one that I

957
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:52.039
<v Speaker 2>would probably at some point do a deep dive episode

958
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:55.079
<v Speaker 2>on it, just because as far as Colts go, this

959
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:57.159
<v Speaker 2>is what got me fascinated into Colts.

960
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:00.519
<v Speaker 8>Well, and then I said, in the seventy they get

961
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 8>this huge influx of funds that of unknown origin. I

962
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.920
<v Speaker 8>think this was a fucking setup. I think they were

963
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.599
<v Speaker 8>getting money from the fucking government.

964
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm sure that Bow or Doe or Guinea

965
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call this fucking wide eyed BP

966
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 2>fuck with this crazy brand. I mean, I Phil White.

967
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Other than the shot of the shoes and the purple shroud,

968
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the guy walking down the hallway, like I was talked

969
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:34.159
<v Speaker 2>about earlier, him just speaking and you don't even have

970
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to hear his voice, just to his I mean he's

971
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:41.239
<v Speaker 2>not exactly expressionless, but his eyes are just dead.

972
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.239
<v Speaker 8>Okay, let me let me expand on this theory that

973
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.320
<v Speaker 8>I have, okay, that this was a program exactly do

974
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.360
<v Speaker 8>you have you ever heard me cover Star Trek? I

975
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 8>think so, and how I think it was part of

976
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 8>like the Alice in Wonderland type programming, and that it's

977
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 8>k one of the actresses in the original Star Trek.

978
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 8>Her brother was a fucking Heaven's Gate Cult member dead.

979
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Dead Well to me, this reminds me of like if Scientology,

980
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Jonestown and Star Trek all fucked and.

981
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 12>Had a baby.

982
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:25.840
<v Speaker 8>Well, do you not find it absolutely bizarre that a

983
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 8>Star Trek actor's brother died in the Heaven's Gate Cult.

984
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is weird. And this wasn't even Los Angeles.

985
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:34.039
<v Speaker 2>This was a few hours south in.

986
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.360
<v Speaker 8>San Diego, right, but still California.

987
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Though they what they did believe was that that I

988
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 2>don't remember if it was hell Bop or Hally comment

989
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that there was a spaceship that if they killed themselves

990
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:56.400
<v Speaker 2>at the exact right time, their souls would ascend. But

991
01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you guys want to really dive into

992
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.719
<v Speaker 2>this and you want to listen to somebody talk about

993
01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.599
<v Speaker 2>it who's very well researched and hilarious, it's Gordo and

994
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the crew from those conspiracy guys in Ireland. They do

995
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:16.880
<v Speaker 2>these fucking well just researched breakdowns that are sometimes five

996
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 2>six hours long, and this one I listened to a

997
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.599
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago. I would I would recommend listening

998
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to that. But their whole thing was, I don't know,

999
01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:33.880
<v Speaker 2>just so science fiction and it's just it. It kind

1000
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of sticks out to me in the way that the

1001
01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:42.360
<v Speaker 2>whole thing just went down. It's just bizarre, and I

1002
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 2>was definitely psyoped by this as a young kid watching

1003
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.039
<v Speaker 2>this shit on the news, So to me, that could

1004
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.639
<v Speaker 2>have been the whole point of it. I don't know

1005
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:57.280
<v Speaker 2>what the whole grand scheme of like this syop was,

1006
01:03:57.400 --> 01:03:58.519
<v Speaker 2>but I do believe that.

1007
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:03.199
<v Speaker 8>You believe they were real people that died. I don't know,

1008
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 8>because honestly, they didn't show any bodies other than just

1009
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 8>feet sticking out.

1010
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and why in the news would you show dead bodies?

1011
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Make the link? No, not that, but just make the

1012
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 2>link like one of the victims or whatever they would

1013
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 2>call this. The sacrificial Lambs was a fucking brother of

1014
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 2>a star Trek actress. I mean, it just kind of

1015
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 2>all ties together something that something more grand. I agree

1016
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:34.719
<v Speaker 2>with you I think.

1017
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:40.840
<v Speaker 8>Even down to the costumes, it just seems otherworldly, like

1018
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.039
<v Speaker 8>it just I don't believe in aliens. Obviously they did,

1019
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 8>but I'm just saying like this, the influx of funds,

1020
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 8>the Army connection, the Star Trek actors, brother the weird

1021
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:58.920
<v Speaker 8>and he would post all these videos of himself talking

1022
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:00.719
<v Speaker 8>and weird just well, I.

1023
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Mean, you say he was posting them, but this was

1024
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like late nineties when Internet wasn't it.

1025
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:09.199
<v Speaker 8>He sent them out though, to like his followers or

1026
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 8>something like obviously he recorded him and was like distributing

1027
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:13.480
<v Speaker 8>them in some way.

1028
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, I've been so busy with Princess Die

1029
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and JFK Junior that I didn't even really revisit this one.

1030
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.480
<v Speaker 2>But there is so many nuggets in there.

1031
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.000
<v Speaker 8>I think that even the names that they went by, Bowen, Peep,

1032
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.880
<v Speaker 8>Doe and t Guinea and Pig, Like, what the fuck

1033
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:33.199
<v Speaker 8>is this?

1034
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but just when you have this dough

1035
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and te printed out and you you mentioned it adds

1036
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 2>a whole new meaning to just do it what they

1037
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:49.519
<v Speaker 2>could have been doing it. They're dough and tea.

1038
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Like in that too, like.

1039
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 8>Black and white nikes. They were all had to have Nike.

1040
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, the whole Saturn purple shrouds the shoes,

1041
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:05.199
<v Speaker 2>because you never looked at black and white Nikes again

1042
01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 2>in the same way I have a pear. Yeah, did

1043
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:10.159
<v Speaker 2>they come off apple white?

1044
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 8>No that I googled the exact Nike that they were wearing.

1045
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.159
<v Speaker 2>It was called and you ordered them on purpose?

1046
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.199
<v Speaker 8>What mine are black and white Nike Cortes. These were

1047
01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:25.280
<v Speaker 8>something different. I can tell the listeners anybody who cares,

1048
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 8>they just.

1049
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Looked like cheap and Nike basketball shoes.

1050
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:36.239
<v Speaker 8>If you have date Nike shoes nineteen ninety three, Nike decades.

1051
01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Aka Heavens Gate Nikes, get your pet today.

1052
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.039
<v Speaker 8>They probably just don't make those at all anymore.

1053
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're worth a lot of money.

1054
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:48.840
<v Speaker 8>Dude, if they do, I why do I want a pair?

1055
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Because you're a sick fuck, I guess.

1056
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 8>But so there was some other aspect of this that

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01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:58.440
<v Speaker 8>I was going to run past you as just being

1058
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:01.880
<v Speaker 8>totally off. I've seen videos of the cult members and

1059
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.599
<v Speaker 8>he's like telling him to smile, and they all just

1060
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:12.000
<v Speaker 8>have that face that look like they're they're not lights around,

1061
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.159
<v Speaker 8>but nobody's home type of thing going.

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01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're willing to castrate yourself scene.

1063
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:18.280
<v Speaker 8>It's like, do you really think that these.

1064
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:22.639
<v Speaker 2>People were not all of them purportedly did.

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01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:26.400
<v Speaker 8>Well, there are survivors that have done interviews and they

1066
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 8>said they left when it came time to cut their

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01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:29.159
<v Speaker 8>balls off.

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01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you have a line in the sand. That's good, right, yeah,

1069
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, wouldn't you. I'll follow you to the fucking

1070
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:38.840
<v Speaker 2>comment as long as I don't have to cut my

1071
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 2>balls off.

1072
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.480
<v Speaker 8>At least he wasn't. Fucking all their wives have been

1073
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.039
<v Speaker 8>hard to do.

1074
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do remember he was one of the

1075
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:51.920
<v Speaker 2>ones that was castrated. Who Marshall, right, Peep? I don't

1076
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.199
<v Speaker 2>know if he bo pig. I don't know if Peep

1077
01:07:56.360 --> 01:08:00.400
<v Speaker 2>cut her clip off. I don't think I remember hearing

1078
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 2>anything about this. Oh my god.

1079
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 8>So he's bow and she's Peep.

1080
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Well not after the fucking surgery, Oh my god.

1081
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 8>All right, Well, moving on next on the list. This

1082
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:28.279
<v Speaker 8>is something you got illuminated by me about. It's next

1083
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:31.920
<v Speaker 8>on the list. We're going to Tokyo, Japan. March twentieth,

1084
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 8>nineteen ninety five. Members of the Doomsday Cult place packages

1085
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:41.560
<v Speaker 8>filled with a deadly suren nerve agent on five different

1086
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 8>trains all going to the heart of Tokyo. Cult members

1087
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:51.000
<v Speaker 8>punctured the packages with sharpened umbrella tips and the attack

1088
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:57.399
<v Speaker 8>killed thirteen people. And this attack caused temporary blindness and

1089
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:01.720
<v Speaker 8>other types of sickness and over a thou people. And

1090
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:08.119
<v Speaker 8>it was led by cult leader Shoko Asahara, who had

1091
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.399
<v Speaker 8>visions of the end of the world given to him

1092
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 8>by entities. And when they rated his complex, you know

1093
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:22.880
<v Speaker 8>what they find a military helicopter, explosives, weapons grade strains

1094
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 8>of anthrax and the Ebola virus, and mind controlled devices

1095
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:34.720
<v Speaker 8>that he was developing. Where the fuck did he get

1096
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:41.159
<v Speaker 8>this shit from. He also talked about dark conspiracies promulgated

1097
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 8>by the Jews, the Freemasons, the Dutch, and the British

1098
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:50.000
<v Speaker 8>royal family. He was also said to have been able

1099
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:54.439
<v Speaker 8>to levitate, among other things. Had you ever heard of this?

1100
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:57.840
<v Speaker 8>You said you hadn't, But I mean no, it's pretty

1101
01:09:57.880 --> 01:09:59.039
<v Speaker 8>Craig Gray, Well.

1102
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Usually when we do these episodes together, I don't get

1103
01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:05.199
<v Speaker 2>a peak about what you've highlighted and what we're going

1104
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:10.079
<v Speaker 2>to talk about. But since we did this episode last time,

1105
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:12.239
<v Speaker 2>thinking this was going to be one episode, I got

1106
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a peek at this, so I ended up listening to

1107
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.359
<v Speaker 2>a few podcasts about it and doing a little few

1108
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:19.159
<v Speaker 2>articles on it.

1109
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:20.880
<v Speaker 8>You are turning me on right now.

1110
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:26.720
<v Speaker 2>And this one is fucking crazy because this Shoko Asahara,

1111
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.680
<v Speaker 2>he was blind and when he was a little kid.

1112
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is he was partially blind in one eye,

1113
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 2>mostly blind in one eye, completely blind in the other eye,

1114
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:40.399
<v Speaker 2>so pretty fucking blind. But he went to a school

1115
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:45.119
<v Speaker 2>for blind kids, and since he had slightly partial vision

1116
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:48.199
<v Speaker 2>in one eye, he was top dog and he started

1117
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:54.600
<v Speaker 2>bullying and extorting his fellow blind school members. What So,

1118
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:57.239
<v Speaker 2>this guy was a shyster from the beginning. And you

1119
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:00.359
<v Speaker 2>said that he was able to levitate, among other things,

1120
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>or said to have been. He made recruitment videos of

1121
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:10.399
<v Speaker 2>himself fake levitating to get people to come in. And yeah,

1122
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:14.279
<v Speaker 2>this one's crazy because these guys operated on a wide scale.

1123
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.199
<v Speaker 2>They even had some fucking breakoff members go over to

1124
01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Australia and they had a bunker over there, and they

1125
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 2>were really bad at what they were doing because they

1126
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.640
<v Speaker 2>always had like enough gas to kill like thousands of people,

1127
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and when they did it, it was almost it was

1128
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of reminds me of the Olympics that went on

1129
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in Georgia where the backpack tipped over, and if it

1130
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:40.840
<v Speaker 2>hadn't done that, it would have killed hundreds of people,

1131
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:45.279
<v Speaker 2>but it tipped over, so it did minimal damage. Every

1132
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking time these guys tried to do something, they fucked

1133
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 2>it up, and then when they got raided, they had

1134
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.079
<v Speaker 2>enough fucking seren gas to kill like four million people

1135
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 2>or something.

1136
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.560
<v Speaker 8>Holy shit, where did they get the bowl of IRUs?

1137
01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can pick that up on fucking tim.

1138
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.319
<v Speaker 8>You really think you can get weapons grade strains of anthrax,

1139
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:11.079
<v Speaker 8>any bowl of virus at easily in a military helicopter.

1140
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean it reminds me of picking up a fifty

1141
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 2>five gallon drum of acid in Yeah.

1142
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:22.600
<v Speaker 8>Jeffrey Dahmer, doesn't it remind you of of Pip and

1143
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:26.119
<v Speaker 8>Pop or whatever? Like, where are they getting this ship from?

1144
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Where are they getting this ship from?

1145
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:32.319
<v Speaker 8>Where's this blind guy getting this ship from?

1146
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:36.439
<v Speaker 11>You had connections, okay, But to me, he's talking about

1147
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:41.199
<v Speaker 11>dark conspiracies about the Jews and the Freemasons and the

1148
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 11>British royal family, and he's.

1149
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:48.199
<v Speaker 8>Got a military helicopter, weapons grade strains of anthrax, any

1150
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:52.239
<v Speaker 8>bowl of virus, and mind controlled devices that he's developing.

1151
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to about that an employee. In my opinion,

1152
01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.239
<v Speaker 2>he's programmed to kind of kill.

1153
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:08.039
<v Speaker 8>He's programmed to try to kill.

1154
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:10.239
<v Speaker 2>He got thirteen at one point.

1155
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:12.960
<v Speaker 8>Well, I'm just saying, honey, like, when you look at

1156
01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:15.159
<v Speaker 8>this kind of stuff, you have to ask yourself, if

1157
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:17.079
<v Speaker 8>you and I were going to start a cult tomorrow,

1158
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:19.840
<v Speaker 8>how easily would it be for you to get a

1159
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:25.560
<v Speaker 8>military helicopter, explosives, weapons grade strains of anthoxiny, bolevirus, and

1160
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 8>mind control devices.

1161
01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I could get that by three o'clock this afternoon.

1162
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:32.720
<v Speaker 8>Like this is what this is why it's like, okay,

1163
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:36.319
<v Speaker 8>even with Heaven's Gate cult when they rated the compound,

1164
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:40.520
<v Speaker 8>they're not finding this stuff. They're finding some fucking Nike

1165
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 8>shoes and some fucking weirdos.

1166
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.039
<v Speaker 2>But they're not finding this as weird as the Heaven's

1167
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Gate folks were. They didn't want to hurt other people.

1168
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 2>They just wanted to catch the taxi cab Jane.

1169
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:54.960
<v Speaker 8>Let's let's look at Jonestown. They weren't finding this.

1170
01:13:56.439 --> 01:14:00.119
<v Speaker 2>No, this is a unique one for sure, and it's

1171
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:02.520
<v Speaker 2>not well known. No, it's not.

1172
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.119
<v Speaker 8>Guess where I found out about.

1173
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:10.199
<v Speaker 2>This ghost hunters, ain't you aliens.

1174
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:15.439
<v Speaker 8>Because he was supposedly talking to extraterrestrial eye.

1175
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Of course he was.

1176
01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:21.199
<v Speaker 8>Did you have anything he wanted to add about this

1177
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:22.000
<v Speaker 8>fox stick?

1178
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Nope.

1179
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:26.399
<v Speaker 8>Well, let's take a quick break and when we come back,

1180
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:28.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna let you take the reins on the next

1181
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.279
<v Speaker 8>couple of topics. Everybody sit tight, We'll be back in

1182
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:32.079
<v Speaker 8>just a minute.

1183
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:57.840
<v Speaker 9>Frightening development this morning, a chemical weapon, nerve gas, was

1184
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 9>released inside a crowded subway system in Okyo. Today March twentieth,

1185
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:07.199
<v Speaker 9>nineteen ninety five, Tokyo rush hour. Five bags filled with saren,

1186
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:10.800
<v Speaker 9>a deadly nerve agent first used as a chemical weapon

1187
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:15.039
<v Speaker 9>by the Nazis, have been planted by a cult at

1188
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:15.920
<v Speaker 9>the end of the age.

1189
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid I feel is ride upon us.

1190
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:22.840
<v Speaker 4>This is the biggest cult story in the country.

1191
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:27.039
<v Speaker 13>This was a voluntary situation. They may or may not

1192
01:15:27.159 --> 01:15:30.760
<v Speaker 13>have been influenced, but we'll never know that. But at

1193
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.319
<v Speaker 13>this point this is considered a mass suicide investigation.

1194
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.119
<v Speaker 9>Tindo gave us the tools.

1195
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:47.560
<v Speaker 2>To brainwash ourselves, literally wash out our humanness.

1196
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 8>From my brain.

1197
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.800
<v Speaker 12>The basic idea of Heaven's Gate was that you would

1198
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:56.920
<v Speaker 12>chemically and biologically transform your body becoming a next level alien,

1199
01:15:57.079 --> 01:15:59.479
<v Speaker 12>and then you would physically get on board the UFO,

1200
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:00.720
<v Speaker 12>which was often.

1201
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:05.079
<v Speaker 2>To have it says Heaven's gate Away Teem thirty nine

1202
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:12.159
<v Speaker 2>to Vema. No, you know, everybody wants to think, oh,

1203
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:13.239
<v Speaker 2>those are those crazy people.

1204
01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 12>I would never do that.

1205
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Do I look in rainwash?

1206
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

1207
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:18.000
<v Speaker 14>Not so fast.

1208
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.720
<v Speaker 8>They were well educated, often from very good families.

1209
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.760
<v Speaker 14>Me at a ten year old, I didn't believe that,

1210
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.000
<v Speaker 14>and I would never ever speak.

1211
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:31.960
<v Speaker 8>To them again. I am well and safe as of now.

1212
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:35.600
<v Speaker 1>That was code when you come and home.

1213
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:36.600
<v Speaker 9>Pah.

1214
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 12>I never t and Doe were paranoid in constantly on the.

1215
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Move, and the FBI said, there's really not much we

1216
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:46.000
<v Speaker 2>could do without this group. No, said, I'm gonna proceed

1217
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 2>in doing the gestation.

1218
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:49.119
<v Speaker 8>Who's going to go first?

1219
01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Do exactly as I say, and you will not know death.

1220
01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:59.000
<v Speaker 2>By killing themselves, they ensured their immortality. They signed out hostilitiesta.

1221
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Baby will say, who do you think you are?

1222
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Is this it called? If I ever heard? But yes

1223
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:05.079
<v Speaker 4>it is.

1224
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:08.119
<v Speaker 2>It's it called. I mean, it's a call the colts.

1225
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:16.960
<v Speaker 2>We'll see you in our next session. It's a very

1226
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:20.560
<v Speaker 2>short time before our departure.

1227
01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:43.279
<v Speaker 8>And we are back I think I've done enough talking

1228
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 8>so far, so I'm gonna let Colby take this next

1229
01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:49.680
<v Speaker 8>segment over. But who do you want to start with?

1230
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:54.880
<v Speaker 8>Who's your victim of choice? Princessder John F K J.

1231
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, since John John died in ninety nine and Princess

1232
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Died died in ninety seven.

1233
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:08.800
<v Speaker 8>Ninety seven, I think I do know my mom was obsessed.

1234
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Over it, and these two are kind of linked. I mean,

1235
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the story is very similar, but we'll go with Princess

1236
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Die first, I suppose, and they too even may have dated.

1237
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh fun, as you'll come to find. But Princess Die

1238
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:30.159
<v Speaker 2>is one of those stories that, Yeah, if you were

1239
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:34.840
<v Speaker 2>alive in the nineties, it definitely was something you would

1240
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:37.880
<v Speaker 2>have heard of, even just in passing. You could have

1241
01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:40.680
<v Speaker 2>been amish dropping your milk off at the store and

1242
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:42.600
<v Speaker 2>he would have heard about it. It was all anybody

1243
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 2>was talking about from the time that she died. You

1244
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.000
<v Speaker 2>can go back, and she was always in the tabloids.

1245
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:54.560
<v Speaker 2>But her beginnings I just consider that her entire life

1246
01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:59.880
<v Speaker 2>of tragedy because she was born into money, some old asthma,

1247
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and her family had familial ties with the royal family.

1248
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:11.720
<v Speaker 2>And when I say familial. I should just say that

1249
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:17.239
<v Speaker 2>they were kind of neighboring where Princess di grew up.

1250
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>It was bordering a property of the royal family, and

1251
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Diana's grandmother was good friends with the queen. And so

1252
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:33.079
<v Speaker 2>her story begins by not being wanted because she was

1253
01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:37.079
<v Speaker 2>born to a family that was desperately trying to have

1254
01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:40.520
<v Speaker 2>an heir to their little family. And it's the Spencer

1255
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:45.319
<v Speaker 2>family and they had that old sheep money. Then goes

1256
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:50.199
<v Speaker 2>back to like the fifteenth century. So Diana was born

1257
01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:57.479
<v Speaker 2>the third girl of the family. And God, I'm going

1258
01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:00.720
<v Speaker 2>to get this out of order, probably, but she was

1259
01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the third girl, and I don't remember her parents really

1260
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:09.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted a boy, and they did have one that died

1261
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:14.199
<v Speaker 2>ten hours after it was born, and I think that

1262
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:19.039
<v Speaker 2>happened before Diana. And then she was born, and since

1263
01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:22.399
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't a boy, everybody blamed the mom and tried

1264
01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:25.479
<v Speaker 2>to like make her go to fertility clinics and get

1265
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:28.800
<v Speaker 2>looked at and checked out by all these doctors because

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01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:35.399
<v Speaker 2>it was obviously her fault. And she was a product

1267
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:39.800
<v Speaker 2>of divorce. Her parents divorced when she was young, and

1268
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:42.239
<v Speaker 2>her mom kind of had an affair with.

1269
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:44.680
<v Speaker 8>Somebody he inherit to spend her money though.

1270
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Well she didn't need to.

1271
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:49.039
<v Speaker 8>Well somebody needed to.

1272
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, she didn't live in long enough to inherit.

1273
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:54.000
<v Speaker 10>Shit.

1274
01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:03.239
<v Speaker 2>So the funny thing about Princess Die marrying Charles is

1275
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:07.960
<v Speaker 2>that Charles dated Diana's older sister, Sarah, and so I

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01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:09.479
<v Speaker 2>think there's a thirteen.

1277
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:13.039
<v Speaker 8>Year age gap, and so he had the hots for Sarah.

1278
01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, Charles only ever had the hots for Camilla, who Yeah,

1279
01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:23.600
<v Speaker 2>so he's currently married, right, but his parents and his

1280
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:26.199
<v Speaker 2>entire well, I would just say the entire royal family

1281
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:32.039
<v Speaker 2>expected the future king to marry somebody more prestigious than Camella.

1282
01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Camilla and Charles ran in similar circles. They dated until

1283
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 2>he was you know, he went to the Royal Navy

1284
01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>and shipped off and then she ended up marrying somebody else,

1285
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:46.880
<v Speaker 2>but he always was in love with her. They were

1286
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 2>like besties and romantic at one point before he left.

1287
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>So he comes back, she's married off, and I don't

1288
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:02.039
<v Speaker 2>remember exactly how it happened, but they had an encounter

1289
01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:06.399
<v Speaker 2>when she was seventeen, and I don't think he was

1290
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>dating the sister anymore, but they were really pushing for this,

1291
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. The royal family thought that she was suitable,

1292
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:21.359
<v Speaker 2>and he ended up, you know, courting her, and I

1293
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:27.000
<v Speaker 2>think they had hung out thirteen times before he proposed,

1294
01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:31.640
<v Speaker 2>and she was a virgin, and when all this was

1295
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:35.640
<v Speaker 2>in action, they actually had her kind of Mormon style

1296
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:40.640
<v Speaker 2>examined to make sure that she was indeed chased, and

1297
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:47.880
<v Speaker 2>they never really were set up for success. He didn't

1298
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:50.039
<v Speaker 2>want to be with her. He was carrying on with

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01:22:50.119 --> 01:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Camilla on the side. I mean, I think they'd been

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01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:57.680
<v Speaker 2>married for like a couple weeks and she was on

1301
01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:00.560
<v Speaker 2>a cruise with him and he was wearing these double

1302
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:06.479
<v Speaker 2>sea cuff links and she said, oh, those are from Camilla,

1303
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 2>aren't they And he said, yeah, what's wrong with that?

1304
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, he kind of just put her in her place.

1305
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.279
<v Speaker 8>So there's a lot of interviews of them too, like

1306
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.239
<v Speaker 8>before they were or while they were engaged, and he's like, yeah,

1307
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:20.640
<v Speaker 8>love whatever that is.

1308
01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I was going to bring that up. They asked what

1309
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:25.439
<v Speaker 2>it's like to be in or they said are you

1310
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.359
<v Speaker 2>in love? And she said, well, yes, of course, and

1311
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:33.359
<v Speaker 2>he said love whatever that is. He said, that's really

1312
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>objective or subjective, and her face just fucking melts when

1313
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>he says that, and She at first was living in

1314
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:48.720
<v Speaker 2>her own place while they were engaged, but the relentless

1315
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:53.439
<v Speaker 2>paparazzi swarming started and she ended up moving into the palace.

1316
01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:59.479
<v Speaker 2>And when they married, she thought like, this is fairy tale,

1317
01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:02.159
<v Speaker 2>this is what I've always wanted. But she just found

1318
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:06.479
<v Speaker 2>nothing but loneliness and nobody interacted with her, and he

1319
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>was always gone, and she s she developed a severe

1320
01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:16.000
<v Speaker 2>case of bolimia. I think when she tried on her

1321
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:20.199
<v Speaker 2>dress they had to like go down several sizes by

1322
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the time they got married because she had been, you know,

1323
01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:28.119
<v Speaker 2>purging food. And this would all come out later in interviews.

1324
01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:31.439
<v Speaker 2>She gave some candid interviews where she came out about

1325
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>suicidal ideations. She actually threw herself down a flight of

1326
01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:39.199
<v Speaker 2>stairs when she was pregnant with William. She did it

1327
01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:42.600
<v Speaker 2>in front of everybody. I mean, she was just calling

1328
01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:47.039
<v Speaker 2>out for help in every way possible. And I mean

1329
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>their marriage was just shit, and he was carrying on

1330
01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>with Camilla the whole time. And I mean, have you

1331
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>heard a tam pacskate?

1332
01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:01.119
<v Speaker 8>What so like tamps?

1333
01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what the fuck is this?

1334
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:07.319
<v Speaker 2>So it was a phone call between Camilla and Charles

1335
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that the press got a hold of somehow, and he's

1336
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.479
<v Speaker 2>they're they're just kind of dirty talking, and then he

1337
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:18.680
<v Speaker 2>said that he just wished he could live in her

1338
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>trousers and that would be so much easier. And she's like, oh, Charles,

1339
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and she said maybe you could come back as a

1340
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:31.319
<v Speaker 2>pair of my panties or something like that, and he said, oh,

1341
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:33.279
<v Speaker 2>that'd be just right. Or how about I come back

1342
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:38.359
<v Speaker 2>as a tampon or no, he said tampacs, I mean,

1343
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and this carried on like she's like, well, why don't

1344
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.479
<v Speaker 2>you just come back as the whole box so you

1345
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:45.640
<v Speaker 2>could just be in me over and I mean, this

1346
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.199
<v Speaker 2>is like fucking weird ass British dirty.

1347
01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:50.880
<v Speaker 8>Talk, and I mean, come back as my tampon.

1348
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And the guy's got some kind of period fit.

1349
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:57.039
<v Speaker 8>They got bloodlust, all of them, the fucking royal families

1350
01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:59.039
<v Speaker 8>there you go, bloodsuckers.

1351
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when she was pregnant, they actually gas lit

1352
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>her when she was getting mourning sickness and shit because

1353
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:09.119
<v Speaker 2>apparently lizards don't get it because none of them had

1354
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:11.239
<v Speaker 2>ever experienced it before. And they said she was just

1355
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>acting out for attention. And they said, oh my god,

1356
01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean I could go on and on about this shit.

1357
01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:24.520
<v Speaker 8>But let's agree first off that the royal family are

1358
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:30.000
<v Speaker 8>a bunch of evil, satanic lizard possible lizard people.

1359
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's neither here nor there. I kind of err

1360
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.680
<v Speaker 2>on that side myself. And if you want to get

1361
01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:38.199
<v Speaker 2>into that, I think, is it David Iyke that had

1362
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the supposedly she witnessed them they're shape shifting and sucking blood.

1363
01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.800
<v Speaker 8>I mean person who wrote about it, their name was

1364
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:51.960
<v Speaker 8>something Arizona Wilder or something like that. Anyways, there there

1365
01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:54.800
<v Speaker 8>was a story where Princess Diana said that they do, like,

1366
01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:59.399
<v Speaker 8>let's let she said, they shape shift and drink eat kids.

1367
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:02.079
<v Speaker 8>But let's just let's just take that part out of it.

1368
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.239
<v Speaker 8>Would it be outside of the realm of possibility that

1369
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:08.119
<v Speaker 8>they're they're abducting children and doing this shit to them.

1370
01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's out of it.

1371
01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.239
<v Speaker 8>I mean there's mass graves in like Canada and shit,

1372
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:16.520
<v Speaker 8>where they just would go to schools and empty them

1373
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:18.920
<v Speaker 8>out and like nobody'd ever see the kids again.

1374
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that's the thing about Diana as a mother, Like, well,

1375
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>just to backtrack a little bit, she at first the

1376
01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>press really tore her to shreds. No matter what she did,

1377
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:34.319
<v Speaker 2>she would wear a dress that was more modern than

1378
01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>what they were used to, and they would say her

1379
01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:38.920
<v Speaker 2>her breasts were practically falling out of her dress and

1380
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>she's got like a scarf around it. I mean it

1381
01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:43.640
<v Speaker 2>was like a strapless dress.

1382
01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:44.560
<v Speaker 9>You know.

1383
01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:48.199
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like fucking Kardashian shit or Kanye's new wife.

1384
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>But that's but that's how they acted, right, And then

1385
01:27:53.119 --> 01:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>she ended up making friends. God, what was her name, Francis.

1386
01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I think she was married to the fucking creepy ass

1387
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Peto Andrew, and they became like kind of just normal

1388
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>women having fun. They would go out on the town

1389
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:14.399
<v Speaker 2>and do stuff and you know, fuck with the paparazzi.

1390
01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>And at that point in time, she was kind of

1391
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to make a name for herself. And she was

1392
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>she was always from the beginning of her life. I mean,

1393
01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>she like volunteered in old folks' homes, and she was

1394
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>a nanny and a kindergartener teacher, a kindergarten teacher, and

1395
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:37.279
<v Speaker 2>she always had this like philanthropic streak in her and

1396
01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.039
<v Speaker 2>not like the fake philanthropic that covers up, you know,

1397
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>what the shit that they're really doing. She was actually

1398
01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>someone who cared about people, and she made like an

1399
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:52.319
<v Speaker 2>effort to go out and like humanize AIDS patients, and

1400
01:28:52.720 --> 01:28:58.159
<v Speaker 2>she homeless people, sex, traffic victims, just all of it.

1401
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 2>She was just right there and kind of you know,

1402
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the royal family, they would go on these tours through

1403
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Africa and stuff and just wave at all the poor people.

1404
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>But she was actually out there trying to make a

1405
01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>difference and she Do.

1406
01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:16.039
<v Speaker 8>You think that Diana is an actual and literal sacrificial lamb.

1407
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we'll get into that, because just to skip

1408
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:24.520
<v Speaker 2>ahead a little bit, all the infidelity on his end

1409
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>started coming out, and she started having affairs of her own,

1410
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, just give you a little bit of

1411
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:34.159
<v Speaker 2>an idea of what a creep Charles is.

1412
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:35.720
<v Speaker 8>Oh, dude, just look at it.

1413
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>When the second son was born, he really wanted a girl.

1414
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:42.279
<v Speaker 2>And the first thing he said when he saw Harry was,

1415
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, it's a boy. And ew, it's got

1416
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>red hair.

1417
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:51.640
<v Speaker 8>And because some lizardfucker with the red hair, Jean fuck Diana.

1418
01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:54.479
<v Speaker 2>And she had red hair in her family. And a

1419
01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of people speculate that this military guy, James Hewitt,

1420
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:00.880
<v Speaker 2>he was a redhead.

1421
01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.359
<v Speaker 8>I always heard that her horse shocking Fuctor.

1422
01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was one of the guys. So she had

1423
01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:09.159
<v Speaker 2>a long list of people that she was kind of

1424
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>confiding in, and some of it became romantic. But this

1425
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>was well after the fact that she was shunned by

1426
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Charles and he was always, you know, everything was Camilla

1427
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>with him, and she was very candid about this. She

1428
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:28.439
<v Speaker 2>had an interview, she actually did a series of interviews

1429
01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>where she used her hairstylist as an intermediary between a

1430
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>journalist's friend of his, and she knew that she was

1431
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>being watched, so she got this guy. Oh no, he

1432
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>was a doctor. Excuse me, it was a doctor of hers.

1433
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>She actually sought out this journalist so she could tell

1434
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:52.079
<v Speaker 2>her side of the story, but she wasn't willing to

1435
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>let the author use her as a source. And he

1436
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.239
<v Speaker 2>thought at this point it was just going to be

1437
01:30:57.279 --> 01:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>an article, but she spilled so much that it became

1438
01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:03.239
<v Speaker 2>a look it's like Princess Diana and her own words

1439
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>or something, and it was a band. It was a

1440
01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:11.159
<v Speaker 2>banned book good and she couldn't claim that she was

1441
01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:14.119
<v Speaker 2>the one that was giving the goods. But I think

1442
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>there was a documentary after her death that came out

1443
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>and you can actually hear all the audio of all

1444
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>the stuff she was given him, and I'm sure it's

1445
01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.159
<v Speaker 2>not all in there, but the good stuff probably made

1446
01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>it in there. Anyway, they ended up separating and finally

1447
01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>divorcing on the Queen's request. Actually she had like granted

1448
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:36.439
<v Speaker 2>them permission to divorce and thought it was the best thing,

1449
01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:39.159
<v Speaker 2>which was unheard of in the royal family. And a

1450
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:43.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of people wanted to like make it so that

1451
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Charles couldn't be king that it would skip to William

1452
01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:50.479
<v Speaker 2>because of this, That's how scandalous it was. But she

1453
01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>goes through a long list of potential suitors, she kind

1454
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>of just starts, you know, being her own person after

1455
01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:01.479
<v Speaker 2>the divorce, and she had she maintained title, and it

1456
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of seems like her and Queen Elizabeth had some

1457
01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:09.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of like I don't know, rapport if not like

1458
01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>tight knit relationship. And I don't know. I never watched

1459
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the Netflix series.

1460
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:18.439
<v Speaker 8>I'm not interested in it because I think it's all wise.

1461
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, you can watch Bridgerton.

1462
01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.640
<v Speaker 8>That's all wise and they're proud of it.

1463
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, you can watch that show to get some insight

1464
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:32.840
<v Speaker 2>on this. If you believe that that show's really. I

1465
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>haven't watched any of it myself.

1466
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:37.560
<v Speaker 8>But I know that I can't be lied to my face.

1467
01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I'm not going to watch it either. But anyway,

1468
01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:50.279
<v Speaker 2>she ends up with this guy, Dodie Alfayed, and she

1469
01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:58.239
<v Speaker 2>knew the father first, and apparently they were pretty close

1470
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and probably going to Mary and I mean, when I've

1471
01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>done digging on this, I don't find out much good

1472
01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>about him, and that maybe she was just going to

1473
01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:13.359
<v Speaker 2>be in another trap, but that would never happen because

1474
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:18.359
<v Speaker 2>of the car crash everybody knows about. But that day

1475
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>was kind of weird because they were trying to outrun

1476
01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:26.079
<v Speaker 2>the paparazzi all day long. They ended up like switching

1477
01:33:26.119 --> 01:33:28.319
<v Speaker 2>where they were going to have dinner, and they used

1478
01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:32.119
<v Speaker 2>like a decoy car to get the paparazzi away from him.

1479
01:33:33.199 --> 01:33:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Now what happens next is kind of open for interpretation.

1480
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have several different ideas. But their

1481
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.119
<v Speaker 2>decoy car didn't work and they were kind of swarmed

1482
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and their driver, Henri Paul, who had spelled Henri but

1483
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>he's French. He was the driver and a lot of

1484
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>people say he has ties to French intelligence, which is

1485
01:34:03.159 --> 01:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this whole thing gets really weird because the

1486
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>bodyguard of alfa Ed is also kind of a scandalous character.

1487
01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:15.199
<v Speaker 2>He's the only person that survived the car crash. But

1488
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:21.199
<v Speaker 2>to backtrack a little bit, they leave dinner and I

1489
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>think the bodyguard was employed by Mohammed, the father of Dodi,

1490
01:34:27.239 --> 01:34:34.079
<v Speaker 2>and he's in there and the driver and Dodie are

1491
01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:39.399
<v Speaker 2>killed on impact. When this car crashes, and how it crashes,

1492
01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:44.680
<v Speaker 2>nobody really knows because witness testimony sees them go into

1493
01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a tunnel and some people report that there was like

1494
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>up to six motorcycles chasing them and there was bright

1495
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>flashes in the tunnel. And then there's these cars that

1496
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.720
<v Speaker 2>they recovered after this all went down. One of them

1497
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:03.399
<v Speaker 2>belongs to this guy, oh man, what's his name, Anderson,

1498
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>and he was a paparazzi guy that claimed that he

1499
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>had photos of the crash and he ends up dying.

1500
01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.079
<v Speaker 8>Okay, well, there you go.

1501
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>He ends up dying years later by shooting himself in

1502
01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the head before and setting his car on fire.

1503
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:19.520
<v Speaker 8>Okay, so.

1504
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Who knows. You know, it's a Kennedy style suicide. So

1505
01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:29.399
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stuff that goes on, and this

1506
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:35.520
<v Speaker 2>car crashes Diana was an avid seatbelber and she was

1507
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:39.159
<v Speaker 2>not buckled in. I don't know if any of them were.

1508
01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I think the only one buckled in actually was the bodyguard,

1509
01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:45.079
<v Speaker 2>who in a situation like this would not be buckled in.

1510
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:49.399
<v Speaker 2>He survives, and his face is just maimed and he

1511
01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>has amnesia. He doesn't remember it. Oh and so apparently

1512
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Dody and the driver die on impact. Diana is conscious,

1513
01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and there's a doc who witnesses this wreck and he

1514
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:07.640
<v Speaker 2>turns around and Diana is conscious.

1515
01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>What did they hit?

1516
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>They hit like the a pillar, the median inside the tunnel,

1517
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and they were got hard. Well, at one point he

1518
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>was said to have been going over one hundred miles

1519
01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:24.079
<v Speaker 2>per hour. Henri the driver. Why they were trying to

1520
01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:27.319
<v Speaker 2>outrun the paparazzis, that's the story.

1521
01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:31.439
<v Speaker 8>And because they were so inexperienced with paparazzi.

1522
01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, he also was an alcoholic, and they said, I know.

1523
01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>They did an autopsy on the driver and they said

1524
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>that he had three times the legal limit, but doesn't

1525
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>make him drunk. There's also security footage you can see

1526
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:51.039
<v Speaker 2>at the hotel where he is not drunk. He's fine.

1527
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:53.840
<v Speaker 8>That's what I'm saying. Like three times the legal limit

1528
01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:56.760
<v Speaker 8>for an alcoholic is like a fucking Shirley tim Well,

1529
01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:57.479
<v Speaker 8>and get this shit.

1530
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:04.279
<v Speaker 2>He also had carbon monoxide. Oh my god, the level

1531
01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:08.039
<v Speaker 2>of somebody who would have like strapped themselves into the

1532
01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:11.279
<v Speaker 2>car and you know, in the garage to commit suicide.

1533
01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of people who think his body

1534
01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.840
<v Speaker 2>was swapped out and he was the assassin. I mean,

1535
01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>this is like, this is all conjecture. You can go

1536
01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:20.600
<v Speaker 2>down all sorts of rabbit holes.

1537
01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:24.880
<v Speaker 8>Well, the tunnel was something that called the Passage of

1538
01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:29.560
<v Speaker 8>the Moon, and like there's all this weirdest symbolism around

1539
01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:34.039
<v Speaker 8>that tunnel, and like any well you want to get

1540
01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:38.479
<v Speaker 8>into Goddess Diana and all that, and she's the moon symbolism.

1541
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's people who think that she faked her death

1542
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>and she don't know this one. I'm not willing to

1543
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:49.399
<v Speaker 2>say one way or the other. I think that she.

1544
01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:53.680
<v Speaker 8>Faked her death or she was a sacrificial lamb.

1545
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's so many things, like the royal family would

1546
01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>have never wanted the stepfather of the errors of the

1547
01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>throne to be a Muslim, and she may have been pregnant,

1548
01:38:10.439 --> 01:38:14.600
<v Speaker 2>according to some accounts. They also embalmed her right away,

1549
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:20.720
<v Speaker 2>which is odd, and her whole death is weird because

1550
01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:23.439
<v Speaker 2>they were five minutes away from a hospital. They didn't

1551
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:27.720
<v Speaker 2>get her there until almost two hours after the crash.

1552
01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:30.880
<v Speaker 8>So do you think that's to swap the body out

1553
01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:34.079
<v Speaker 8>or do you think that's to make sure she was dead?

1554
01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:37.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because when she was found on the scene,

1555
01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:40.560
<v Speaker 2>she was in and out of consciousness. She suffered a

1556
01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:45.199
<v Speaker 2>heart attack. Her last words were, oh my god, what's happened?

1557
01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>And they passed two hospitals on the way to the

1558
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:52.720
<v Speaker 2>one where she ended up, but they claimed that the

1559
01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>other hospitals didn't have what it would take. But also

1560
01:38:57.399 --> 01:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>if you look at like where this happened in Paris,

1561
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>they don't have the same like scoop them up and

1562
01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>get him to the hospital as as soon as possible.

1563
01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:09.359
<v Speaker 2>They try to like stabilize on the scene. But to me,

1564
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it took them two hours to get

1565
01:39:12.319 --> 01:39:14.039
<v Speaker 2>her to the hospital and then by the time she

1566
01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>gets there, she's got so much internal bleeding and her

1567
01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>heart has like shifted completely over and apparently she was savable,

1568
01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:26.359
<v Speaker 2>but it was very minimal chances that they could have

1569
01:39:26.439 --> 01:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>saved her. I mean that's the official story as far.

1570
01:39:31.079 --> 01:39:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I find the whole thing to be weird.

1571
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:37.760
<v Speaker 8>With the crash, they crashed into the side wall.

1572
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:42.199
<v Speaker 2>It was either like the media, yeah, well, and it

1573
01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>did that type of dance. They say that one of

1574
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:48.479
<v Speaker 2>the paparazzi may have clipped the car. I mean, there

1575
01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.600
<v Speaker 2>was two cars that fled the scene, and one of

1576
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.720
<v Speaker 2>them was that guy I was talking about earlier. They

1577
01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:58.039
<v Speaker 2>ended up having the Clinton style death.

1578
01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:04.640
<v Speaker 8>The shot to the head in the burning car. Yeah, honey,

1579
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:11.520
<v Speaker 8>this just does not look with your conspiracy eyes and

1580
01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:14.560
<v Speaker 8>tell me that this was just a paparazzi gone wrong

1581
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:16.159
<v Speaker 8>car accident.

1582
01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't buy the official story.

1583
01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>No way.

1584
01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:28.079
<v Speaker 8>She may have been pregnant too. That was talk, and

1585
01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:34.000
<v Speaker 8>then Elton John shushes up the Marilyn Monroe song for

1586
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:40.359
<v Speaker 8>what you don't know about that? He changed the lyrics

1587
01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:45.439
<v Speaker 8>to Candle in the Wind, performed it at her funeral.

1588
01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:50.199
<v Speaker 2>What words did you change, Norman Jy and to princess?

1589
01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:51.640
<v Speaker 8>But I can show you.

1590
01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, regardless, she was arguably the most famous person

1591
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>on the planet. When this how happened, it was a

1592
01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:06.640
<v Speaker 2>shock to the world and just to see that, you know,

1593
01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:08.279
<v Speaker 2>go watch the heart felt.

1594
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:12.520
<v Speaker 8>He called it Goodbye England's Rose, but it was the

1595
01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:17.399
<v Speaker 8>same as Candle in the Wind Candle in the Wind

1596
01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:21.840
<v Speaker 8>nineteen ninety seven. He like re released it with lyrics

1597
01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:22.800
<v Speaker 8>for a Princess di he.

1598
01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Re released it. This wasn't just like a live tribute.

1599
01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:32.239
<v Speaker 8>Remastered. But anyways, see there he is at the funeral.

1600
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:39.760
<v Speaker 8>What were you saying she was a sacrificial lamb to me? Yeah,

1601
01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:42.199
<v Speaker 8>I mean, look at Kate, what they've done with her.

1602
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:47.279
<v Speaker 8>I don't even know if that's I think she probably

1603
01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:48.239
<v Speaker 8>died a long time ago.

1604
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's some weirdness there for sure. And I can't

1605
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>imagine being one of these boys. They were, you know,

1606
01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:01.479
<v Speaker 2>they lost their momd in some of the most formative

1607
01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:06.920
<v Speaker 2>years of their lives. Harry talks about how he disassociated

1608
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>at her funeral, He left his body, and you got

1609
01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:15.520
<v Speaker 2>to wonder, like what they think, what if they buy

1610
01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>into any of the conspiracy.

1611
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:20.880
<v Speaker 8>Think William is just as bad as Charles at this

1612
01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.680
<v Speaker 8>point with the weird stuff that's went on with Kate.

1613
01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's another thing, is like those kids

1614
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:32.039
<v Speaker 2>after she died didn't really stand a chance. She was

1615
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>making them go to public school. She was doing all

1616
01:42:35.720 --> 01:42:39.199
<v Speaker 2>this stuff that was so unorthodox for the royal family.

1617
01:42:39.399 --> 01:42:43.119
<v Speaker 2>She wanted them to have a somewhat normal upbringing, to

1618
01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>not have everything handed to them on a silver platter.

1619
01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:48.119
<v Speaker 2>And then you can only imagine what life was like

1620
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:49.359
<v Speaker 2>for them after she died.

1621
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:53.840
<v Speaker 8>And then Charles was just so fast to fucking bring

1622
01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:54.640
<v Speaker 8>Camilla in there.

1623
01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she was always there unofficially. So why not.

1624
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:02.640
<v Speaker 8>Should we move on to JFKJ.

1625
01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think it's a good segue to

1626
01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:08.359
<v Speaker 2>mention like, what do William and Harry think of their

1627
01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:10.720
<v Speaker 2>mother's death? I can tell you for goddamn sure that

1628
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:14.760
<v Speaker 2>JFK Jr. Doesn't think that what went down with his

1629
01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:17.640
<v Speaker 2>dad and his uncle was how we were led to believe.

1630
01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:19.560
<v Speaker 8>Well, see, there you go.

1631
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy in tandem with Princess Diana, he

1632
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:30.800
<v Speaker 2>was born a celebrity. I mean, Princess Diana wasn't she

1633
01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:35.439
<v Speaker 2>became one jfkid Junior. I think he was born like

1634
01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:39.720
<v Speaker 2>weeks after they moved into the White House. He was

1635
01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.399
<v Speaker 2>three years old. At his dad's funeral, there's the famous

1636
01:43:42.479 --> 01:43:46.640
<v Speaker 2>picture of him saluting the coffin, and I mean, I

1637
01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:47.159
<v Speaker 2>don't even know.

1638
01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:49.840
<v Speaker 8>And then he just grew up to be just hot.

1639
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:54.279
<v Speaker 2>This is a sexy guy, you know, just like Princess

1640
01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Diana doing this very condensed. This could be its own episode.

1641
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:03.199
<v Speaker 2>But it's also I listened to a few series on it,

1642
01:44:03.720 --> 01:44:06.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's just crazy to me how a lot of

1643
01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:09.680
<v Speaker 2>these people, a lot of these researchers, point out everything

1644
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:12.319
<v Speaker 2>weird about it and then come to the conclusion that

1645
01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it was just pilot error. John John was reckless. He was,

1646
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:20.760
<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt about that. But I mean, this guy

1647
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:26.279
<v Speaker 2>grew up knowing that some of his earliest memories were

1648
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:29.479
<v Speaker 2>of his dad dying, and then he would have been

1649
01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:35.960
<v Speaker 2>eight when his uncle died. And I mean his mom

1650
01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. His mom just very much controlled his

1651
01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>entire life, even when he was an adult. And every

1652
01:44:44.199 --> 01:44:49.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking Kennedy was put into the limelight, whether they wanted

1653
01:44:49.359 --> 01:44:51.479
<v Speaker 2>to be or not. I mean, his cousins, they were

1654
01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>just all fuck ups, including fucking RFK Junior.

1655
01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:01.199
<v Speaker 8>And was he close with RFK J.

1656
01:45:01.640 --> 01:45:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they were close. They definitely, you know,

1657
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>the whole Kennedy clan, it's like a tight little fucking mafia.

1658
01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:11.680
<v Speaker 8>It's American Royalty.

1659
01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, she Jackie put the camelot myth into

1660
01:45:18.119 --> 01:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the stratosphere after JFK died, and that stuck. I mean,

1661
01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>to this day, it sticks.

1662
01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:28.000
<v Speaker 8>Do you think that JFKJ really dated Princess.

1663
01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Di They hung out a couple of times, enough to

1664
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.359
<v Speaker 2>get their pictures taken together, enough to get his dick wet.

1665
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, who knows. But he dated many people. He

1666
01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:43.760
<v Speaker 2>dated Daryl Hannah, He dated Sarah Jessica Parker for over

1667
01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a year. Yeah, looks like a horse.

1668
01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:50.119
<v Speaker 8>Did she looks like a witch?

1669
01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:51.199
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1670
01:45:51.279 --> 01:45:51.640
<v Speaker 2>My god?

1671
01:45:51.720 --> 01:45:58.159
<v Speaker 8>In her long horse face. No, okay, I just wanted

1672
01:45:58.159 --> 01:45:59.640
<v Speaker 8>to make sure I wasn't crazy.

1673
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>It's got a certain cuteness about her.

1674
01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:04.239
<v Speaker 8>Horses.

1675
01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Watch the movie Striking Distance with Bruce.

1676
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:09.560
<v Speaker 8>Willis, Watch the movie Failure to Launch.

1677
01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can bash Sarah just a perker all

1678
01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you want.

1679
01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

1680
01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Apparently whatever she's got, whatever she's got going on down there,

1681
01:46:22.720 --> 01:46:28.439
<v Speaker 2>apparently was enough to make the Fuse the most eligible

1682
01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:31.560
<v Speaker 2>bachelor in the entire fucking planet dated her for almost

1683
01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>a years.

1684
01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:36.960
<v Speaker 8>Fueller's eligible.

1685
01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:42.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying I think she's They called JFK Junior

1686
01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:43.319
<v Speaker 2>the most eligible bat.

1687
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:46.479
<v Speaker 8>No, I know, but she ended up with Ferris Bueller.

1688
01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:50.600
<v Speaker 8>So obviously she's not too hot. Have you seen Broderts

1689
01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:52.359
<v Speaker 8>Like he looks like.

1690
01:46:52.399 --> 01:46:54.479
<v Speaker 2>A toad wouldn't want Ferris Bueller.

1691
01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:58.720
<v Speaker 8>I'm telling you, if Jennifer Aniston is trans, there's no

1692
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:02.560
<v Speaker 8>fucking way on that. Sarah Jessica Parker as a puss.

1693
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:05.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, not everybody who's not a ten is a

1694
01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:06.399
<v Speaker 2>fucking trance dude.

1695
01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:11.439
<v Speaker 8>She's got a fucking horse face in a long slender.

1696
01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean she's trans man body.

1697
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:15.880
<v Speaker 8>Okay, anyways, go ahead.

1698
01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm not sticking up for All I'm saying

1699
01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.319
<v Speaker 2>is JFKJA was fine with it for a year.

1700
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:23.640
<v Speaker 8>Okay, But if you're gonna pick out all the girls

1701
01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 8>he dated, you're going for Sarah Jessica p Sure.

1702
01:47:28.319 --> 01:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean no, you're asking which one I would go for.

1703
01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean he ended up marrying a hot one.

1704
01:47:35.039 --> 01:47:39.239
<v Speaker 8>Okay, good dude. That gives me some hope for him

1705
01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:41.720
<v Speaker 8>that his ficker wasn't off.

1706
01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we're just talking about a lot of useless

1707
01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:46.479
<v Speaker 2>facts here, But I'm gonna try to give like a

1708
01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:51.640
<v Speaker 2>very quick cliff note version of his life. You know,

1709
01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>always in his dad's shadow, grew up as any Kennedy

1710
01:47:56.079 --> 01:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>did lots of privilege. Always he wanted to be kind

1711
01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:05.279
<v Speaker 2>of his own man and always dictated by his mother,

1712
01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and she did not like that he was doing a

1713
01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:12.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of the things he was doing. He I mean,

1714
01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:16.520
<v Speaker 2>he lost his Secret Service protection at a certain age.

1715
01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's sixteen or eighteen. I've kind

1716
01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:21.640
<v Speaker 2>of heard conflicting reports on that. But he didn't give

1717
01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:24.800
<v Speaker 2>a fuck. He didn't want it. He loved fucking riding

1718
01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:27.079
<v Speaker 2>his bike all around New York City in the height

1719
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:30.399
<v Speaker 2>of like the fucking bad crime time of New York City,

1720
01:48:31.239 --> 01:48:33.680
<v Speaker 2>which would kind of bite him in the ass because

1721
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>he had in his life three foiled kidnapping plots. One

1722
01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:40.520
<v Speaker 2>of them happened when he was a little kid, one

1723
01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:42.239
<v Speaker 2>of them happened when he was in college, and the

1724
01:48:42.359 --> 01:48:47.520
<v Speaker 2>latest happened when he was an adult in New York City.

1725
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Griselda Blanco, the Black Widow, I mean, you probably all

1726
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:57.279
<v Speaker 2>anybody who follows like the Narcos kind of stories on Netflix.

1727
01:48:57.359 --> 01:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I think they gave her a spin off, but she

1728
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:02.119
<v Speaker 2>won to kidnap him at some point. Look into that.

1729
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:06.479
<v Speaker 2>That what's kind of fun to look into. But he

1730
01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:11.039
<v Speaker 2>went to law school because it was expected of him.

1731
01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:15.039
<v Speaker 2>He failed the bar exam a couple times before he

1732
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Speaker 2>finally passed it, but he kind of wanted to do

1733
01:49:18.680 --> 01:49:23.039
<v Speaker 2>his own thing, and he really was never given the

1734
01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:27.279
<v Speaker 2>blessing for anything outside of going into politics as far

1735
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:31.439
<v Speaker 2>as his mother was concerned, and she did not like

1736
01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:35.479
<v Speaker 2>that he was parading around with the likes of Horseface

1737
01:49:37.239 --> 01:49:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Parker and Daryl Hannah and you know, like I said earlier,

1738
01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.359
<v Speaker 2>he was even dated to or he was even rumored

1739
01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:49.279
<v Speaker 2>to have maybe dated Princess die at one point. But

1740
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:57.079
<v Speaker 2>his mom died I think in ninety four, and that Reallyckie. Yeah,

1741
01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:00.039
<v Speaker 2>that really kind of cemented things for him on what

1742
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:04.079
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to do with his life. And he ended

1743
01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:07.359
<v Speaker 2>up kind of hooking up with somebody his mom probably

1744
01:50:07.399 --> 01:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>would have approved of. She wasn't in the limelight. She

1745
01:50:10.319 --> 01:50:13.079
<v Speaker 2>was in the fashion industry, like a you know, low

1746
01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:17.199
<v Speaker 2>tier name. And this is Carolyn Bassett and she was

1747
01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:20.359
<v Speaker 2>an intern at Calvin Klein when he met her, and

1748
01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>he courted her pretty hard. And I don't know how

1749
01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:27.039
<v Speaker 2>long they were seeing each other, if they got married

1750
01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>as quickly as Princess Diane Charles did, but it was

1751
01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:34.960
<v Speaker 2>bad news from the beginning. Too, like she ended up

1752
01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>being kind of I don't know, some people call her crazy.

1753
01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I know she kind of had a cocaine habit. He

1754
01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:47.439
<v Speaker 2>was kind of anti drug, even though he was said

1755
01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:50.760
<v Speaker 2>to have been a drinker and when he drank, he

1756
01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:53.600
<v Speaker 2>could not handle his liquor. He was said to have

1757
01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:57.079
<v Speaker 2>done some things and said some things and under the

1758
01:50:57.159 --> 01:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>influence of alcohol. And this one I did not know

1759
01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm about until very recently, and it was Jim Brewer.

1760
01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:07.159
<v Speaker 2>You know Jim Brewer. He used to be on SNL.

1761
01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:13.399
<v Speaker 2>He started his own podcast. Oh He's big. But Heath said.

1762
01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:19.079
<v Speaker 2>There was this letter that the FBI had that was

1763
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:23.840
<v Speaker 2>sent to Joe Biden, and it said, Joe Biden, you're

1764
01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a trader to this country. You must die, signed JFK Jr. Yeah,

1765
01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:35.199
<v Speaker 2>And the FBI was alerted to this and they buried it.

1766
01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:38.359
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people say that what happened was

1767
01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:46.039
<v Speaker 2>the old fucking crime bill that Biden pushed through really hard, like.

1768
01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:48.159
<v Speaker 8>The actual Joe Biden.

1769
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Not this no Joe Biden back when this was back

1770
01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:55.520
<v Speaker 2>when he was a senator. He pushed for this really

1771
01:51:55.640 --> 01:52:00.319
<v Speaker 2>harsh crime bill that kind of led to all of

1772
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:05.239
<v Speaker 2>the you know, minorities being incarcerated for minor crimes like

1773
01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:10.720
<v Speaker 2>three felonies, you're in prison for life. And the Kennedys

1774
01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:13.720
<v Speaker 2>were against this. Ted Kennedy railed hard against this on

1775
01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the Senate floor. So a lot of people think what

1776
01:52:16.359 --> 01:52:21.399
<v Speaker 2>happened was Ted was kind of close with JFK. Junior

1777
01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and he probably vented to him, and JFK. Junior was

1778
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:26.279
<v Speaker 2>like a man of the people and he probably saw

1779
01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:28.680
<v Speaker 2>this as a bad thing. So a lot of people

1780
01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:31.760
<v Speaker 2>speculate this letter was in reaction to the crime bill.

1781
01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>But this also kind of like when I looked into

1782
01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:38.880
<v Speaker 2>this really hard, it just kind of made me think,

1783
01:52:39.039 --> 01:52:43.439
<v Speaker 2>like this is why the JFK Jr. With the whole

1784
01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Q thing is interesting because Biden's in there and then

1785
01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:50.359
<v Speaker 2>this plane crash We're going to talk about here in

1786
01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:53.279
<v Speaker 2>a second. With a lot of the stuff that went on,

1787
01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:57.079
<v Speaker 2>like I could see JFK. Junior faking his death, Like

1788
01:52:57.159 --> 01:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a list of people that I could see wanting to

1789
01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:03.279
<v Speaker 2>like fake their death and step away. JFK Junior, Michael Jackson,

1790
01:53:03.439 --> 01:53:06.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe Princess die. There's there's a number of them. And

1791
01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:09.039
<v Speaker 2>he to me, I mean, when you hear what I'm

1792
01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:11.279
<v Speaker 2>going to say in a second, it's it kind of

1793
01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:14.600
<v Speaker 2>seems like it could have been that way. But anyway,

1794
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:21.439
<v Speaker 2>that whole Biden letter thing, the FBI, they didn't pursue

1795
01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:25.319
<v Speaker 2>it once they kind of so there's some journalists that

1796
01:53:25.479 --> 01:53:29.279
<v Speaker 2>got some FOYA requests sent in. They wanted everything that

1797
01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:33.479
<v Speaker 2>the FBI had declassified on JFK. Junior, and they found

1798
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that letter, and I don't think it was known about

1799
01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:38.880
<v Speaker 2>before that. They also found out about that plot of

1800
01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Griselda Blanco to kidnap him. She wanted to kidnap JFK Jr.

1801
01:53:44.399 --> 01:53:46.680
<v Speaker 2>They said he always rode his bike in New York City.

1802
01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:48.560
<v Speaker 2>He would be easy to grab and then she was

1803
01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:50.760
<v Speaker 2>again to leverage that to get out of the country

1804
01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:52.520
<v Speaker 2>and then if she could, she would keep him as

1805
01:53:52.520 --> 01:53:53.039
<v Speaker 2>a sex.

1806
01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:54.760
<v Speaker 8>Slave because he looking guy.

1807
01:53:55.159 --> 01:53:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she was a lethal twat. I mean she

1808
01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:03.359
<v Speaker 2>can had like six husbands all died. They called her

1809
01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the black Widow. But she wanted to kidnap JFK Junior apparently.

1810
01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:16.399
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, his marriage with Carolyn kind of falls apart,

1811
01:54:17.359 --> 01:54:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I guess she's a coked up WHI well,

1812
01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:26.359
<v Speaker 2>and she never could handle the paparazzi. She was kind

1813
01:54:26.399 --> 01:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of like, princess died, but no, I can't, and I

1814
01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:32.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know if she didn't know what she was getting into.

1815
01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot of things that happened when they

1816
01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:37.880
<v Speaker 2>first got married. They kind of really started to get

1817
01:54:37.920 --> 01:54:42.520
<v Speaker 2>to know each other. And I think she had an

1818
01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>affair with an underwear model, and that leads me into

1819
01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:52.439
<v Speaker 2>another thing. So after his mom died, remind me about

1820
01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the underwear model, because I'm gonna spiral into this other thing.

1821
01:54:57.159 --> 01:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>He he was devastated, but he also told some close

1822
01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>friends that even though this was just, you know, debilitating

1823
01:55:06.079 --> 01:55:09.359
<v Speaker 2>for him, he felt free for the first time his

1824
01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:15.359
<v Speaker 2>entire life. So he starts this magazine called George, and

1825
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it's called George because he had told some close friends

1826
01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:21.520
<v Speaker 2>that he wanted to rub it in the face of

1827
01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the person who he think killed his dad, and he

1828
01:55:25.279 --> 01:55:31.840
<v Speaker 2>named hw really but he also on the very first

1829
01:55:32.079 --> 01:55:36.359
<v Speaker 2>edition of George, had Cindy Crawford, who was another person

1830
01:55:36.399 --> 01:55:42.600
<v Speaker 2>he dated, dressed scantily with the George Washington wig on.

1831
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:46.079
<v Speaker 2>And so they called the magazine George. And this was

1832
01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:49.520
<v Speaker 2>his passion project, and it fucking took off like wildfire.

1833
01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:52.760
<v Speaker 2>On that first release, all the fucking liberals wanted that

1834
01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:56.159
<v Speaker 2>on their coffee table, and he thought, here I am,

1835
01:55:56.279 --> 01:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I've made my mark. Sadly, it starts to decline, like

1836
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:04.720
<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly. The Internet was just coming on. Magazines were

1837
01:56:04.800 --> 01:56:06.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of on their way out, and it was a

1838
01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>magazine that was like the kind of like celebrity end

1839
01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>of politics. It was like celebrity as entertainment. And it

1840
01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:19.680
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a weird thing because he would sprinkle

1841
01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:22.960
<v Speaker 2>little things in there. He had an article written by

1842
01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Oliver Stone, who famously made the movie JFK, about Garrison

1843
01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:33.680
<v Speaker 2>going up against the Warrant Commission. And he also had

1844
01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:38.840
<v Speaker 2>an article that was talking about how the Masade assassinated

1845
01:56:39.319 --> 01:56:41.079
<v Speaker 2>a prime minister of Palestine.

1846
01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:45.520
<v Speaker 8>Magazine, Yes, good for fucking.

1847
01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:51.319
<v Speaker 2>And sadly the magazine kind of started to dwindlecast well,

1848
01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>he might when he comes back and becomes Trump's vice president.

1849
01:56:56.199 --> 01:57:00.560
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, he kind of hits this point his life

1850
01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:04.600
<v Speaker 2>where the magazine's failing. He doesn't know what he's going

1851
01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>to do, and there starts to be whispers about him

1852
01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>getting into politics like his dead mother always wanted. It's

1853
01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:16.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of funny because he dated the girl his mom

1854
01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:19.760
<v Speaker 2>probably would have approved of over everybody else after she died,

1855
01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:25.439
<v Speaker 2>and he started talking about possibly dipping his tone into politics,

1856
01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:27.079
<v Speaker 2>which is what his mom always wanted.

1857
01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:29.359
<v Speaker 8>Maybe he felt bad after she died.

1858
01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he did.

1859
01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And so.

1860
01:57:34.640 --> 01:57:38.439
<v Speaker 2>The story goes in the conspiracy crowd that he talked

1861
01:57:38.479 --> 01:57:43.079
<v Speaker 2>about running for senator of New York, which if he did,

1862
01:57:43.199 --> 01:57:44.960
<v Speaker 2>he would have been running against Hillary Clinton.

1863
01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:46.279
<v Speaker 8>Oh shit.

1864
01:57:47.039 --> 01:57:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Another fun fact is that Trump and JFK Junior were

1865
01:57:52.039 --> 01:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>supposedly tight and they ah, this is like when it

1866
01:57:57.039 --> 01:58:01.720
<v Speaker 2>gets all kiwi. So there's like it were besties. I

1867
01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:04.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they were besties, but they were close

1868
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:07.640
<v Speaker 2>and there was like I think it was frantic. Missy

1869
01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:09.880
<v Speaker 2>was telling me about how there was like some interview

1870
01:58:09.920 --> 01:58:13.399
<v Speaker 2>footage where they were not interview footage, but just like

1871
01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:17.239
<v Speaker 2>paparazzi on the street where they're walking together and they're like,

1872
01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>who's going to run for president first? And Trump's like, oh,

1873
01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:21.399
<v Speaker 2>not me.

1874
01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:22.359
<v Speaker 8>It's a JFK.

1875
01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:28.560
<v Speaker 2>And look how history has ended up. But a lot

1876
01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of people think that the whole plane crash happened because

1877
01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:36.720
<v Speaker 2>the Clintons didn't want any competition. Now, the more research

1878
01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I've done, there is a lot of people in his

1879
01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:42.039
<v Speaker 2>inner circle that were saying, no, he was not going

1880
01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to run for senator. He was eyeballing governor and he

1881
01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:47.359
<v Speaker 2>was going to do that and then run for president

1882
01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:49.640
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and four. So if you are one

1883
01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of those people who want to put jfk Jr. In

1884
01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the Clinton death count, you could still rather he was

1885
01:58:56.039 --> 01:59:01.159
<v Speaker 2>running for whatever either one. Yeah, because eventually, if he's

1886
01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:04.159
<v Speaker 2>doing either, it's on his road to be wanting to

1887
01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:04.920
<v Speaker 2>become president.

1888
01:59:05.159 --> 01:59:06.880
<v Speaker 8>They were going to have to face off of engine.

1889
01:59:06.960 --> 01:59:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, this guy would have been a fucking

1890
01:59:09.159 --> 01:59:12.560
<v Speaker 2>shoe in a president whenever he chose to do it.

1891
01:59:13.239 --> 01:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but it's funny too, because I was listening

1892
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to some people talking and they were saying, like they're historians,

1893
01:59:20.760 --> 01:59:23.279
<v Speaker 2>they have looked heavily into jfk Jr. And they were

1894
01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:25.880
<v Speaker 2>saying a lot of the stuff that he was talking

1895
01:59:25.960 --> 01:59:29.520
<v Speaker 2>about aligns with what like Trump's doing now. And so

1896
01:59:29.680 --> 01:59:32.520
<v Speaker 2>if he was still alive today, he may not even

1897
01:59:32.640 --> 01:59:35.479
<v Speaker 2>been a fucking Democrat. And I mean, look at his uncle,

1898
01:59:35.640 --> 01:59:38.399
<v Speaker 2>or not his uncle, look at his cousin orrfk Jr.

1899
01:59:39.239 --> 01:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Now aligned with Trump. Anyway, that's just kind of in

1900
01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:45.279
<v Speaker 2>the weeds fun stuff. But if you look at it

1901
01:59:45.359 --> 01:59:48.439
<v Speaker 2>from the outside, his magazine is failing. He just found

1902
01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:50.840
<v Speaker 2>out that that's probably going to be done for his

1903
01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:54.520
<v Speaker 2>marriage is falling apart. He was kind of an adrenaline

1904
01:59:54.600 --> 01:59:57.840
<v Speaker 2>junkie and he'd just broken his ankle or his leg,

1905
01:59:57.960 --> 02:00:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember which, doing paragly and he was in

1906
02:00:01.359 --> 02:00:06.119
<v Speaker 2>a cast. And so this is all kind of culminating

1907
02:00:06.199 --> 02:00:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to the plane ride where he was a pilot. He

1908
02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:15.119
<v Speaker 2>was still kind of like training using flight instructures a

1909
02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:17.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time. But he had made this flight

1910
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:20.680
<v Speaker 2>from New York to Martha's Vineyard I think up to

1911
02:00:20.840 --> 02:00:25.800
<v Speaker 2>like thirteen times by himself. But on this fateful day

1912
02:00:26.880 --> 02:00:31.359
<v Speaker 2>he made it in some hazy weather. And they say

1913
02:00:31.439 --> 02:00:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that to like the layman. It wasn't hazy, but once

1914
02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:37.079
<v Speaker 2>you get up there above the ocean. And he was

1915
02:00:37.119 --> 02:00:39.520
<v Speaker 2>supposed to make this flight during the day, so it

1916
02:00:39.680 --> 02:00:43.880
<v Speaker 2>was he and his wife, Carolyn and her sister, and

1917
02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:48.840
<v Speaker 2>they gotten this airplane late. They were flying at night,

1918
02:00:49.800 --> 02:00:53.399
<v Speaker 2>and it takes a nose dive and shit starts to

1919
02:00:53.439 --> 02:00:56.920
<v Speaker 2>get weird here because as soon as the plane goes down,

1920
02:00:58.520 --> 02:01:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like they just kind of fucking started doing

1921
02:01:04.079 --> 02:01:07.000
<v Speaker 2>some fuckery right in the beginning, because there's all these

1922
02:01:07.640 --> 02:01:11.920
<v Speaker 2>missing tapes of him calling in to the flight control.

1923
02:01:11.600 --> 02:01:16.800
<v Speaker 11>Center and missing tapes say no more, but.

1924
02:01:16.840 --> 02:01:20.439
<v Speaker 2>You can find these tapes. Bill Cooper actually did a

1925
02:01:20.520 --> 02:01:23.239
<v Speaker 2>whole episode back in the late nineties where he played

1926
02:01:23.239 --> 02:01:29.600
<v Speaker 2>all of them, and there's like kind of conflicting reports

1927
02:01:29.640 --> 02:01:32.319
<v Speaker 2>on whether there was a flight instructor with him or not.

1928
02:01:32.439 --> 02:01:36.600
<v Speaker 2>There's a missing seat in the plane. They only ever

1929
02:01:36.720 --> 02:01:41.319
<v Speaker 2>recovered three bodies. They were all promptly cremated, and.

1930
02:01:41.800 --> 02:01:42.319
<v Speaker 8>Was one of them.

1931
02:01:45.319 --> 02:01:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, that's what they're saying, but.

1932
02:01:47.359 --> 02:01:49.439
<v Speaker 8>When you promptly cremated like a Dolpho.

1933
02:01:50.319 --> 02:01:55.840
<v Speaker 2>There's the other thing and how the Diana was promptly embalmed.

1934
02:01:57.079 --> 02:02:02.840
<v Speaker 2>But the fucking post guard was looking like several miles

1935
02:02:02.920 --> 02:02:06.920
<v Speaker 2>away from where the plane wrecked. And the technology they

1936
02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:08.800
<v Speaker 2>were used, and I've listened to some people who are

1937
02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:11.600
<v Speaker 2>experts on this say that they had the technology to

1938
02:02:11.760 --> 02:02:14.520
<v Speaker 2>know where that plane went down within three fucking feet.

1939
02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:18.720
<v Speaker 2>But there's all this shit going on where they're kind

1940
02:02:18.760 --> 02:02:23.479
<v Speaker 2>of scrambling the search. And Ted Kennedy pulled strings to

1941
02:02:23.560 --> 02:02:26.880
<v Speaker 2>get directly onto the phone with Bill Clinton to like

1942
02:02:27.079 --> 02:02:31.159
<v Speaker 2>fucking make this search happen better than it was. I mean,

1943
02:02:31.239 --> 02:02:33.760
<v Speaker 2>they were supposed to be at this wedding in Martha's vineyard.

1944
02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:38.359
<v Speaker 2>His cousin Rory was getting married, and he gets to

1945
02:02:38.479 --> 02:02:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the fucking little airport, his wife is late, and they're arguing.

1946
02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:49.039
<v Speaker 2>These two had fucking vicious arguments in public all the time.

1947
02:02:49.079 --> 02:02:52.600
<v Speaker 2>The paparazzi always caught them arguing. But there's some pilots

1948
02:02:52.640 --> 02:02:55.680
<v Speaker 2>who said that they saw them having a very intense conversation.

1949
02:02:56.439 --> 02:02:58.960
<v Speaker 2>John John had just gotten out of his cast. He'd

1950
02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:03.399
<v Speaker 2>been on painkiller for weeks. The only toxicology report that

1951
02:03:03.479 --> 02:03:05.479
<v Speaker 2>you can find on a record said that he was clean.

1952
02:03:05.560 --> 02:03:07.159
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people say that was fake, that

1953
02:03:07.239 --> 02:03:08.600
<v Speaker 2>they didn't even do one, that the.

1954
02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:11.199
<v Speaker 8>Fantasy were promptly cremated, and the.

1955
02:03:11.239 --> 02:03:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Family did not want an autopsy. So a lot of

1956
02:03:16.239 --> 02:03:19.239
<v Speaker 2>people say that the Kennedy family covered this up to

1957
02:03:19.319 --> 02:03:22.239
<v Speaker 2>make it look like, yeah, that this isn't just another

1958
02:03:22.359 --> 02:03:25.119
<v Speaker 2>cursed death. They didn't want anything bad to come out,

1959
02:03:25.239 --> 02:03:27.720
<v Speaker 2>like he was fucking under the influence of pain pills

1960
02:03:27.840 --> 02:03:31.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But it gets really fun if you get

1961
02:03:31.920 --> 02:03:34.720
<v Speaker 2>into the weeds and get all conspiracy about this, because

1962
02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:39.239
<v Speaker 2>there's some people out there who say that JFK Junior

1963
02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and one of his security guys found some C four

1964
02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:48.960
<v Speaker 2>under his plane. So there's this guy named John Kerner

1965
02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:53.840
<v Speaker 2>who's written both written two books, both about Kennedy's, the

1966
02:03:53.880 --> 02:03:56.680
<v Speaker 2>first about JFK and the second one about JFK Junior.

1967
02:03:56.760 --> 02:03:59.800
<v Speaker 2>After he wrote the book about GfK, he got this

1968
02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:04.840
<v Speaker 2>weird sickness that only exists in Southeast Asia. And this

1969
02:04:05.000 --> 02:04:07.920
<v Speaker 2>guy had the balls to fucking and he almost died

1970
02:04:07.920 --> 02:04:10.279
<v Speaker 2>from it, and he had the balls to like research

1971
02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:13.920
<v Speaker 2>this too, and it's called like the Explosive Truth or

1972
02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:19.640
<v Speaker 2>something like that. But what he uncovered was fourteen nautical

1973
02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:23.880
<v Speaker 2>miles is a pretty big chunk of terrain, and that

1974
02:04:24.199 --> 02:04:27.359
<v Speaker 2>is how far the wreckage was spread out. So it

1975
02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:30.640
<v Speaker 2>does look like but there's people who say that could

1976
02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:32.840
<v Speaker 2>happen if you, you know, you hit the water on

1977
02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:35.800
<v Speaker 2>a nose dive and then there's like enough wind to

1978
02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:39.119
<v Speaker 2>spread it all out. And it took them several days

1979
02:04:39.159 --> 02:04:42.560
<v Speaker 2>to find the bodies too. So a lot of people

1980
02:04:42.760 --> 02:04:47.479
<v Speaker 2>think that JFK Junior saw that they were trying to

1981
02:04:47.600 --> 02:04:50.880
<v Speaker 2>kill him and he never got on the plane, and

1982
02:04:51.000 --> 02:04:53.479
<v Speaker 2>that they made it look like an accident, and that

1983
02:04:53.600 --> 02:04:56.680
<v Speaker 2>he had a Navy seal buddy, so they missed the

1984
02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:59.960
<v Speaker 2>plane was missing a seat. So a lot of people think,

1985
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:05.239
<v Speaker 2>think the guy the only guy on the plane would

1986
02:05:05.279 --> 02:05:07.920
<v Speaker 2>have been this Navy seal guy who ejected out of

1987
02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:15.760
<v Speaker 2>the plane and nobody died, and my and the c

1988
02:05:16.039 --> 02:05:19.319
<v Speaker 2>turds are right. A lot of people like this. One

1989
02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:22.439
<v Speaker 2>to me, is so fucking hard to research because you

1990
02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:24.319
<v Speaker 2>can go down so many angles on it.

1991
02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:29.159
<v Speaker 8>What does your heart say? Your heart?

1992
02:05:29.319 --> 02:05:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you one thing that I think is really crazy,

1993
02:05:33.279 --> 02:05:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and is it from your heart? I don't know, but

1994
02:05:37.119 --> 02:05:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I saw this years ago and I know who did

1995
02:05:42.520 --> 02:05:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it too. I don't know her. She's been on Davy

1996
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Wavy's show. But this chick during a random ass fucking

1997
02:05:50.560 --> 02:05:54.359
<v Speaker 2>RFK Junior live stream where he's being interviewed by somebody,

1998
02:05:56.039 --> 02:05:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and you might clip this in here. I'll find it

1999
02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:02.640
<v Speaker 2>for you. So he's interviewing or he's being interviewed by

2000
02:06:02.720 --> 02:06:06.920
<v Speaker 2>somebody and he leans forward and reads the chat and

2001
02:06:07.079 --> 02:06:11.479
<v Speaker 2>somebody says, if JFK Junior is still alive, touch your nose.

2002
02:06:12.239 --> 02:06:15.840
<v Speaker 2>RFK Junior reads forward, leans forward right after that comes

2003
02:06:15.920 --> 02:06:18.800
<v Speaker 2>up on the screen, and he just sits back and

2004
02:06:18.920 --> 02:06:22.199
<v Speaker 2>goes he doesn't even It's not like, oh, he's scratching

2005
02:06:22.239 --> 02:06:24.399
<v Speaker 2>his nose. He just fucking reaches up and flicks his

2006
02:06:24.520 --> 02:06:29.199
<v Speaker 2>nose real quick and so like. I'm not one who

2007
02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:32.119
<v Speaker 2>thinks that RFK Junior is like a fucking white.

2008
02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:34.880
<v Speaker 8>Hat, but that you don't think he's gonna make a

2009
02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:39.960
<v Speaker 8>blaze of glory re entrance into society and fucking JFK Jr.

2010
02:06:40.119 --> 02:06:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I think that if he fakes,

2011
02:06:46.439 --> 02:06:48.279
<v Speaker 2>if he faked his death and pulled it off, it

2012
02:06:48.279 --> 02:06:50.600
<v Speaker 2>would be fucking retarded for him to come back. It

2013
02:06:50.640 --> 02:06:52.920
<v Speaker 2>would be what's the point of doing it? Well, he

2014
02:06:53.039 --> 02:06:56.199
<v Speaker 2>wanted to come back with Trump and saved everybody from

2015
02:06:56.199 --> 02:06:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the pedophiles, even though Trump probably is one.

2016
02:07:00.359 --> 02:07:02.600
<v Speaker 8>But do you think he could still be in contact

2017
02:07:02.680 --> 02:07:05.640
<v Speaker 8>with Trump and RFK Jr.

2018
02:07:07.399 --> 02:07:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Anything's possible.

2019
02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:10.479
<v Speaker 8>What does your heart say? Did he die in the

2020
02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:11.279
<v Speaker 8>plane crash or not?

2021
02:07:14.680 --> 02:07:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he did.

2022
02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:17.159
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he did.

2023
02:07:18.600 --> 02:07:22.119
<v Speaker 2>But do I think that he's going to come back?

2024
02:07:22.560 --> 02:07:24.239
<v Speaker 8>Did he hate his wife enough to let her and

2025
02:07:24.279 --> 02:07:25.000
<v Speaker 8>her sister die?

2026
02:07:26.159 --> 02:07:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I doubt it. She wanted out from the beginning.

2027
02:07:30.439 --> 02:07:34.199
<v Speaker 8>The missing the missing seat, Yeah, and that also and

2028
02:07:34.279 --> 02:07:36.399
<v Speaker 8>the three bodies getting cremated as quickly.

2029
02:07:36.640 --> 02:07:39.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's the other thing is they have a family plot.

2030
02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:43.000
<v Speaker 2>No other Kennedy, no other high profile Kennedy that has

2031
02:07:43.119 --> 02:07:46.800
<v Speaker 2>died tragically has been cremated. There's like one every two years.

2032
02:07:46.920 --> 02:07:49.159
<v Speaker 8>I mean John got his head literally blowed off.

2033
02:07:50.279 --> 02:07:52.439
<v Speaker 2>None of them were cremated. He was the only one.

2034
02:07:54.319 --> 02:07:55.439
<v Speaker 2>And a burial at sea.

2035
02:07:56.199 --> 02:07:57.439
<v Speaker 8>A burial at sea.

2036
02:07:57.399 --> 02:07:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Mich Osama bin Laden.

2037
02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:02.720
<v Speaker 8>Ah, well, he for sure didn't die in the crash.

2038
02:08:03.720 --> 02:08:04.840
<v Speaker 8>You've just convinced me.

2039
02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean in this one, Like I said, we could

2040
02:08:07.399 --> 02:08:09.399
<v Speaker 2>literally sit down right now and do a two and

2041
02:08:09.439 --> 02:08:10.680
<v Speaker 2>a half hour long episode.

2042
02:08:10.840 --> 02:08:13.680
<v Speaker 8>Maybe we should revisit it. I mean, it's do you

2043
02:08:13.760 --> 02:08:14.600
<v Speaker 8>think you got all the.

2044
02:08:14.680 --> 02:08:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Jet I mean, I'm sure there's some stuff I missed.

2045
02:08:17.399 --> 02:08:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to get in there. The letter to

2046
02:08:20.000 --> 02:08:22.840
<v Speaker 2>fucking Joe Biden to me is so nineties because of

2047
02:08:22.920 --> 02:08:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the crime Bill and he's threatening Joe Biden's life, and

2048
02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:30.159
<v Speaker 2>then Joe Biden becomes the president that defeats Trump and

2049
02:08:30.239 --> 02:08:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the stolen election. It's so cute like that fucking shit.

2050
02:08:34.720 --> 02:08:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I've only heard Jim Brewer talk about it before. I

2051
02:08:37.119 --> 02:08:40.439
<v Speaker 2>listened to these journalists who got the Foya request something.

2052
02:08:40.520 --> 02:08:44.319
<v Speaker 8>Though, like with Diana, I almost believe that it's a

2053
02:08:44.399 --> 02:08:47.920
<v Speaker 8>lot like how the doctors at Parkland talked about how

2054
02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:51.680
<v Speaker 8>the wounds that John F. Kennedy sustained were nothing like

2055
02:08:51.760 --> 02:08:55.079
<v Speaker 8>they reported and that there was a reconstructive team that

2056
02:08:55.239 --> 02:08:57.199
<v Speaker 8>came in and made it look like the front of

2057
02:08:57.279 --> 02:09:00.239
<v Speaker 8>his head didn't get blowed off. Oh yeah, Okay, the

2058
02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:03.880
<v Speaker 8>doctors are saying all this stuff about her heart being

2059
02:09:04.119 --> 02:09:07.479
<v Speaker 8>lodged and all this stuff. So maybe Diana died, okay,

2060
02:09:07.760 --> 02:09:12.159
<v Speaker 8>But this stuff with John fk Junior, this reeks of

2061
02:09:12.399 --> 02:09:13.239
<v Speaker 8>cover up to me.

2062
02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's the other thing, is whether they're dead

2063
02:09:16.439 --> 02:09:19.600
<v Speaker 2>or not, there was a huge cover up, So that's

2064
02:09:19.680 --> 02:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>true no matter what the outcome is. But yeah, you

2065
02:09:23.119 --> 02:09:26.399
<v Speaker 2>could let your fucking imagination run wild for days on

2066
02:09:26.520 --> 02:09:26.920
<v Speaker 2>this one.

2067
02:09:27.640 --> 02:09:34.920
<v Speaker 8>I think that he's probably still alive. And I mean

2068
02:09:35.039 --> 02:09:38.479
<v Speaker 8>he didn't as much as he was like trying to

2069
02:09:38.600 --> 02:09:40.359
<v Speaker 8>dip his toe in the water. I don't think he

2070
02:09:40.520 --> 02:09:43.359
<v Speaker 8>really wanted anything to do with the world that his

2071
02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:46.640
<v Speaker 8>family belonged to at the end of the day.

2072
02:09:47.159 --> 02:09:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's almost like it was all he was left

2073
02:09:49.359 --> 02:09:52.680
<v Speaker 2>with after his Passion project crashed and burned.

2074
02:09:52.439 --> 02:09:55.199
<v Speaker 8>And it's like his mom died, so he's like, you know,

2075
02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:57.840
<v Speaker 8>I don't have anybody to answer to you but myself.

2076
02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:04.920
<v Speaker 8>He did this. Has anybody seen this song wearing Bitch

2077
02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:10.600
<v Speaker 8>anywhere popped up randomly? Yeah, maybe he just hated that

2078
02:10:10.680 --> 02:10:12.399
<v Speaker 8>bitch so much he let her burn up in the

2079
02:10:12.560 --> 02:10:13.159
<v Speaker 8>plane crash.

2080
02:10:13.359 --> 02:10:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine it, you know. And that's the other

2081
02:10:15.239 --> 02:10:20.319
<v Speaker 2>thing I want to say is Jfkid Junior should have

2082
02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:25.600
<v Speaker 2>been just the biggest asshole ever. And there are some

2083
02:10:25.800 --> 02:10:29.119
<v Speaker 2>photographers out there who would say so because they were

2084
02:10:29.159 --> 02:10:36.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking asshole paparazzi people who never relented. But apparently everybody

2085
02:10:36.640 --> 02:10:40.159
<v Speaker 2>loved this guy and he had big, big things ahead

2086
02:10:40.199 --> 02:10:42.279
<v Speaker 2>of him, whether he wanted to persis do you.

2087
02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:49.640
<v Speaker 8>Think Robert F is it f Robert F. Junior is?

2088
02:10:51.279 --> 02:10:52.439
<v Speaker 8>Do you think he's a good guy?

2089
02:10:53.000 --> 02:10:54.319
<v Speaker 2>No, you don't know.

2090
02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:56.279
<v Speaker 8>You don't think he's a good guy.

2091
02:10:56.640 --> 02:10:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think many of the Kennedys are good guys.

2092
02:10:59.520 --> 02:11:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we could do a whole episode on I mean,

2093
02:11:04.279 --> 02:11:08.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking RFK Junior's wife hung herself in a very very

2094
02:11:08.760 --> 02:11:12.720
<v Speaker 2>weird circumstances. There's the cousin who fucking like raped and

2095
02:11:12.840 --> 02:11:16.920
<v Speaker 2>murdered a girl and got away with it. Yeah, and

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02:11:18.800 --> 02:11:21.199
<v Speaker 2>oh Ted Kennedy, the one that was his uncle. He

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02:11:21.319 --> 02:11:25.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking had a thing where he ran off the road

2098
02:11:26.159 --> 02:11:28.880
<v Speaker 2>with a nineteen year I think she was nineteen, and

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02:11:30.640 --> 02:11:33.079
<v Speaker 2>they were in a car, went into the river, he

2100
02:11:33.199 --> 02:11:36.359
<v Speaker 2>got out, claims that he swam down seven times try

2101
02:11:36.399 --> 02:11:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to rescue her but just couldn't. Goes to the hotel,

2102
02:11:40.880 --> 02:11:44.800
<v Speaker 2>calls the fucking manager because the people next to him

2103
02:11:44.800 --> 02:11:47.800
<v Speaker 2>are partying too loud, get some sleep, and then the

2104
02:11:47.920 --> 02:11:52.119
<v Speaker 2>next morning goes to the police station and says, I read,

2105
02:11:52.319 --> 02:11:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I want to report an incident that I was involved

2106
02:11:55.119 --> 02:11:59.600
<v Speaker 2>in last night, and so they go find her dead.

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02:12:00.000 --> 02:12:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't get this shit. She didn't die from drowning.

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02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:04.159
<v Speaker 8>Shut up.

2109
02:12:04.359 --> 02:12:07.760
<v Speaker 2>So there was an air pocket and she treaded water

2110
02:12:08.640 --> 02:12:11.920
<v Speaker 2>until she fucking ran out of oxygen and died of so.

2111
02:12:12.000 --> 02:12:14.399
<v Speaker 8>He could have saved her. There were many chances to

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02:12:14.520 --> 02:12:14.880
<v Speaker 8>save her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's weird. JFK Jr. On the other hand,

2114
02:12:20.720 --> 02:12:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the only thing he ever was guilty of was Dayton

2115
02:12:23.439 --> 02:12:24.439
<v Speaker 2>orspace mcgillicut.

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<v Speaker 8>Here. Well, I guess I'm not adding JFK Jr. To

2117
02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:35.239
<v Speaker 8>the Clinton body count. I think he's still alive. But

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02:12:35.439 --> 02:12:39.039
<v Speaker 8>we should mention the impeachment of Bill Clinton because that

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02:12:39.239 --> 02:12:42.279
<v Speaker 8>was a nineties thing and he did not have sexual

2120
02:12:42.439 --> 02:12:44.000
<v Speaker 8>relations with that woman.

2121
02:12:44.439 --> 02:12:47.560
<v Speaker 2>He fucked her with a cigar, came on her dress.

2122
02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:50.039
<v Speaker 2>She was masad.

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<v Speaker 8>Were you old enough to remember this?

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02:12:53.960 --> 02:12:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:55.680
<v Speaker 8>What'd you think of it?

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02:12:56.199 --> 02:13:00.000
<v Speaker 2>My memories of the Clinton scandal is Saturday Night Life,

2127
02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:03.720
<v Speaker 2>because man, they were fucking on that shit.

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02:13:03.920 --> 02:13:05.560
<v Speaker 8>They wouldn't do anything like that now.

2129
02:13:05.800 --> 02:13:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Will Ferrell played Janet Reno. Maybe I can Darryl Hannah.

2130
02:13:11.479 --> 02:13:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Daryl Hannah's fucking Bill Clinton is just so good. And

2131
02:13:15.439 --> 02:13:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Molly Shannon who played Lewinsky. Oh

2132
02:13:21.319 --> 02:13:23.800
<v Speaker 2>there's a whole season worth of clips from that. Send

2133
02:13:23.840 --> 02:13:27.399
<v Speaker 2>me like a best of oh for this, Okay, I'll

2134
02:13:27.439 --> 02:13:30.119
<v Speaker 2>find one. But yeah, I mean the Clinton scandal, this

2135
02:13:30.359 --> 02:13:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to me is just like all the stuff we shouldn't

2136
02:13:33.760 --> 02:13:36.680
<v Speaker 2>be paying attention to with Clinton, because Clinton was a

2137
02:13:36.760 --> 02:13:41.800
<v Speaker 2>puss hound, just like JFK Junior's dad, JFK Junior apparently

2138
02:13:42.000 --> 02:13:45.119
<v Speaker 2>fucked a fifteen year old intern or did I say junior?

2139
02:13:45.439 --> 02:13:50.439
<v Speaker 2>JFK JFK. And I always thought Clinton was kind of

2140
02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:54.239
<v Speaker 2>jfk Ask and his mannerisms and how everybody loved him,

2141
02:13:55.000 --> 02:13:56.960
<v Speaker 2>but he was a horrible guy, just like all the

2142
02:13:57.039 --> 02:14:00.600
<v Speaker 2>rest of them. And I mean, Lewinsky wasn't the only one,

2143
02:14:01.239 --> 02:14:04.760
<v Speaker 2>would you. I read a book by a secret service

2144
02:14:05.039 --> 02:14:09.359
<v Speaker 2>agent that was protecting Bill Clinton and the things he saw,

2145
02:14:10.239 --> 02:14:15.039
<v Speaker 2>and he claims that Monica Lewinsky threw herself at Bill

2146
02:14:15.079 --> 02:14:17.079
<v Speaker 2>every chance she got, just to get over there.

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02:14:17.439 --> 02:14:20.239
<v Speaker 8>And I'm not a big but would you be faithful

2148
02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:25.560
<v Speaker 8>if you were married to worse than horse killa? To

2149
02:14:25.720 --> 02:14:30.079
<v Speaker 8>fucking she looks like a fucking her head looks like

2150
02:14:30.159 --> 02:14:30.800
<v Speaker 8>a tomato.

2151
02:14:31.159 --> 02:14:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I would be shocked to find that Bill and Hillary

2152
02:14:35.279 --> 02:14:40.439
<v Speaker 2>ever fucked ever? Right? Right? Their their situationship.

2153
02:14:40.880 --> 02:14:43.720
<v Speaker 8>I mean, dude, that's a situationship if I ever seen

2154
02:14:43.840 --> 02:14:44.760
<v Speaker 8>have you seen him together?

2155
02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:48.800
<v Speaker 2>It's almost as bad as fucking Barry and Mike.

2156
02:14:51.000 --> 02:14:55.159
<v Speaker 8>But in the beginning, Barry and Mike had like a connection,

2157
02:14:55.439 --> 02:14:57.880
<v Speaker 8>like when they were to do interviews and stuff I had.

2158
02:14:58.159 --> 02:15:02.479
<v Speaker 8>I have never seen those two look remotely like they

2159
02:15:02.520 --> 02:15:05.279
<v Speaker 8>were in a romantic sexual relationship.

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02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:09.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I've seen never, I've never seen. Yeah,

2161
02:15:09.439 --> 02:15:12.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like Hillary and human Aberdeen have way better sexual

2162
02:15:12.399 --> 02:15:13.960
<v Speaker 2>chemistry and.

2163
02:15:14.000 --> 02:15:17.359
<v Speaker 8>Bill, anyways, do you feel like we summed up there.

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02:15:17.439 --> 02:15:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't got a lot to say

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02:15:18.800 --> 02:15:20.840
<v Speaker 2>about the impeachment Bill Clinton. It was a big thing

2166
02:15:20.920 --> 02:15:27.159
<v Speaker 2>in the nineties, actually strengthened his fucking position in DC

2167
02:15:27.920 --> 02:15:31.319
<v Speaker 2>and very much fucking launched her political career.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh I'm sure.

2169
02:15:32.520 --> 02:15:38.279
<v Speaker 2>So you know, everybody came out and sadly enough before

2170
02:15:38.359 --> 02:15:42.239
<v Speaker 2>it was not cooled. The slut shame fucking Monica Lewinsky

2171
02:15:42.560 --> 02:15:45.800
<v Speaker 2>got drug through the mud. And I mean, like I said,

2172
02:15:46.199 --> 02:15:49.720
<v Speaker 2>all accounts are that she was really throwing herself at

2173
02:15:49.800 --> 02:15:52.520
<v Speaker 2>him and like going where she was not supposed to

2174
02:15:52.560 --> 02:15:54.800
<v Speaker 2>be to run into him and every chance, and of

2175
02:15:54.880 --> 02:15:56.800
<v Speaker 2>course as soon as she ran into him, he fucked her.

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02:15:57.479 --> 02:15:57.720
<v Speaker 8>Sure.

2177
02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was a lot like Jeff Can that way.

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02:16:02.600 --> 02:16:05.640
<v Speaker 8>So I don't blame Monica. She was just trying to

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02:16:05.680 --> 02:16:08.960
<v Speaker 8>get a piece, But you know Bill was also just

2180
02:16:09.039 --> 02:16:09.960
<v Speaker 8>trying to get a piece.

2181
02:16:10.840 --> 02:16:13.800
<v Speaker 2>If you want some fun, just dive into everything else

2182
02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:17.439
<v Speaker 2>that was going on while the fucking Lewinsky scandal was ensuing,

2183
02:16:17.600 --> 02:16:21.039
<v Speaker 2>because that's the stuff, that's the stuff we're not supposed

2184
02:16:21.039 --> 02:16:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to.

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02:16:23.000 --> 02:16:27.439
<v Speaker 8>Very true. I'm glad you mentioned that. Imagine if we

2186
02:16:27.520 --> 02:16:29.800
<v Speaker 8>would have had if we would have tried to include

2187
02:16:29.840 --> 02:16:31.439
<v Speaker 8>all this in the part three.

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02:16:33.280 --> 02:16:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean another good mention. If we want

2189
02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:43.719
<v Speaker 2>to tie back to Columbine. One thing that Michael Moore,

2190
02:16:44.760 --> 02:16:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that piece of shit, pointed out in his movie Bowling

2191
02:16:47.479 --> 02:16:51.239
<v Speaker 2>for Columbine was as soon as that scandal app or scandal,

2192
02:16:52.360 --> 02:16:55.280
<v Speaker 2>as soon as that shit went down and everybody was

2193
02:16:55.360 --> 02:16:59.360
<v Speaker 2>fixated on that, he engaged in one of the most

2194
02:16:59.479 --> 02:17:03.319
<v Speaker 2>brutal bombing campaigns of Cambodia ever seen. I think it

2195
02:17:03.440 --> 02:17:07.600
<v Speaker 2>was Cambodia. Yeah, we'll just leave it like that. If

2196
02:17:07.639 --> 02:17:10.360
<v Speaker 2>it's another country, forgive me it worth blow up her

2197
02:17:10.399 --> 02:17:11.040
<v Speaker 2>comments section.

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02:17:11.360 --> 02:17:12.360
<v Speaker 8>Is it worth watching?

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02:17:13.440 --> 02:17:16.840
<v Speaker 2>What's that? What is it called Bullying for Colin? Have

2200
02:17:16.879 --> 02:17:17.479
<v Speaker 2>you never seen it?

2201
02:17:17.639 --> 02:17:17.680
<v Speaker 9>No?

2202
02:17:18.600 --> 02:17:21.360
<v Speaker 2>You know it's it's a Michael Moore movie. It's one

2203
02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:24.360
<v Speaker 2>of his better ones, but still Michael Moore movie.

2204
02:17:25.159 --> 02:17:26.319
<v Speaker 8>So is that a No?

2205
02:17:27.200 --> 02:17:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's worth watching.

2206
02:17:29.600 --> 02:17:31.159
<v Speaker 8>Maybe we should watch it sometime.

2207
02:17:32.319 --> 02:17:35.440
<v Speaker 2>There's so much other better stuff to watch. But it's

2208
02:17:35.479 --> 02:17:37.239
<v Speaker 2>an interesting documentary for sure.

2209
02:17:37.920 --> 02:17:41.840
<v Speaker 8>Are you happy to have been able to experience some

2210
02:17:41.959 --> 02:17:46.239
<v Speaker 8>of this nineties mayhem? Do you feel like a historian?

2211
02:17:46.719 --> 02:17:51.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I feel like a contrarian.

2212
02:17:54.920 --> 02:17:58.239
<v Speaker 8>Well, that's gonna wrap it up for the Nineties Night

2213
02:17:58.360 --> 02:18:00.920
<v Speaker 8>Part four. Thanks for hanging in there with us. I

2214
02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:04.920
<v Speaker 8>hope you enjoyed it, and I will catch you on

2215
02:18:05.200 --> 02:18:06.000
<v Speaker 8>the next one.

2216
02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:30.040
<v Speaker 3>So so, I'm a written guess look.

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02:18:32.840 --> 02:18:43.760
<v Speaker 14>Sill lives, But.

2218
02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Cello, you've got.

2219
02:19:12.600 --> 02:19:13.280
<v Speaker 8>To dom.

2220
02:19:15.159 --> 02:19:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Saddam, it's me Bill Clinton. Bill. Come on, I'm eating breakfast.

2221
02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:21.159
<v Speaker 4>I made the deal.

2222
02:19:21.520 --> 02:19:23.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm letting the inspectors back in.

2223
02:19:23.319 --> 02:19:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Now lay off.

2224
02:19:24.159 --> 02:19:25.959
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what I'm calling you about. You see, I

2225
02:19:26.040 --> 02:19:28.280
<v Speaker 4>was thinking maybe you could not let the inspectors in.

2226
02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:31.200
<v Speaker 4>What do you think? Come on, have you been drinking?

2227
02:19:31.280 --> 02:19:31.479
<v Speaker 2>Bill?

2228
02:19:31.719 --> 02:19:31.760
<v Speaker 9>No?

2229
02:19:32.920 --> 02:19:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Well yes, Look buddy, I need you to help me

2230
02:19:41.319 --> 02:19:44.120
<v Speaker 4>out here. This Monica Lewinsky thing is getting pretty hot again.

2231
02:19:44.159 --> 02:19:47.000
<v Speaker 4>I could use a distraction like the Mammot movie Wag

2232
02:19:47.159 --> 02:19:50.319
<v Speaker 4>the Dog Mammot with that lesbian girl and de Niro

2233
02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:50.920
<v Speaker 4>and Dustin.

2234
02:19:50.959 --> 02:19:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought Dustin was fabulous. You know, he may be

2235
02:19:54.319 --> 02:19:56.399
<v Speaker 2>hal on the set, but he's heaven on the screen.

2236
02:19:56.520 --> 02:20:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Oh look sad, buddy, Getting off the subject. Couldn't you

2237
02:20:02.760 --> 02:20:04.879
<v Speaker 4>spray a few kurds with the anthrax?

2238
02:20:05.120 --> 02:20:09.159
<v Speaker 3>Come on, Bill, Bill, come on. Anthrax is horrible.

2239
02:20:09.239 --> 02:20:10.040
<v Speaker 2>It makes me sick.

2240
02:20:11.319 --> 02:20:13.559
<v Speaker 4>I need something. I gotta get this sex stuff out

2241
02:20:13.559 --> 02:20:16.440
<v Speaker 4>of the headlines. Just hold on a second. I got

2242
02:20:16.479 --> 02:20:27.559
<v Speaker 4>another call coming in. Hello, okay, bye, Monica. I was

2243
02:20:27.680 --> 02:20:28.440
<v Speaker 4>just gonna call you.

2244
02:20:30.559 --> 02:20:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Gosh, it's like we have the same brain.

2245
02:20:35.239 --> 02:20:36.239
<v Speaker 8>I really miss you.

2246
02:20:37.479 --> 02:20:38.200
<v Speaker 2>So what are you doing?

2247
02:20:38.959 --> 02:20:39.159
<v Speaker 8>Well?

2248
02:20:39.440 --> 02:20:41.520
<v Speaker 4>I got Saddam on the other line. Looks like there

2249
02:20:41.559 --> 02:20:42.399
<v Speaker 4>ain't gonna be a war.

2250
02:20:43.639 --> 02:20:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Well that bites totally.

2251
02:20:47.319 --> 02:20:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Anyway. How's that star thing going?

2252
02:20:49.399 --> 02:20:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

2253
02:20:49.680 --> 02:20:52.360
<v Speaker 14>No, and anyway, it's totally dumb.

2254
02:20:53.559 --> 02:20:54.520
<v Speaker 9>Oh my god.

2255
02:20:54.719 --> 02:20:57.079
<v Speaker 3>Wait are you watching Dawson's Creek right now?

2256
02:20:58.479 --> 02:21:07.440
<v Speaker 4>No, I am typing it. And do not tell me

2257
02:21:07.680 --> 02:21:08.920
<v Speaker 4>what happens to Piscy.

2258
02:21:12.760 --> 02:21:14.879
<v Speaker 3>All right, hey, let me see how to Saddam.

2259
02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, hold on a second, Saddam, are you still there?

2260
02:21:20.040 --> 02:21:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Who is that one of your Jewish friends?

2261
02:21:21.840 --> 02:21:27.200
<v Speaker 8>Now? Well, yes, who Siddam?

2262
02:21:27.799 --> 02:21:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Monica?

2263
02:21:28.559 --> 02:21:30.639
<v Speaker 4>You never called me anymore.

2264
02:21:37.079 --> 02:21:38.920
<v Speaker 2>In number one nickelode.

2265
02:21:50.600 --> 02:21:53.399
<v Speaker 1>And you won't know. My name is the law.

2266
02:21:54.440 --> 02:21:57.239
<v Speaker 2>But I lay my tenter upon.

2267
02:21:58.760 --> 02:21:59.799
<v Speaker 3>As Air.

2268
02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:09.959
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Geburger Home out the Gutburger. Can I take y'alls?

2269
02:22:10.120 --> 02:22:11.200
<v Speaker 2>You can take your manager.

2270
02:22:11.319 --> 02:22:13.120
<v Speaker 12>Sit right there, I'll tell you how it became the

2271
02:22:13.159 --> 02:22:14.600
<v Speaker 12>prince of a town called bel Air.

2272
02:22:16.520 --> 02:22:18.520
<v Speaker 5>Cobain's body was found in a house in Seattle on

2273
02:22:18.600 --> 02:22:21.159
<v Speaker 5>Friday morning. He was dead of an apparently self inflicted

2274
02:22:21.200 --> 02:22:22.559
<v Speaker 5>shotgun blast to the head.

2275
02:22:23.959 --> 02:22:28.120
<v Speaker 6>We have reports from Paris the Dinah, Princess of Wales

2276
02:22:28.200 --> 02:22:30.040
<v Speaker 6>has been killed in a car accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Your