Speaker 1: I'm like a good woman, Babe, and I'm a good
Speaker 1: woman Steel.
Speaker 2: I'm a cold woman, bless.
Speaker 3: I'm a girl.
Speaker 2: See, I'm.
Speaker 1: I'm the bowl, bad of.
Speaker 3: The bowl, Billy cunning Him. Let's continue with a reporter,
Speaker 3: a newsman and commentator live and both conventions for an overview.
Speaker 3: Leland Vender of News Nation, Leland Vinder of News Nation,
Speaker 3: and welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And may
Speaker 3: I bring up a different matter, but before we talk
Speaker 3: about the conventions, please, I'm looking at a story out
Speaker 3: of UH. Out of according UH the Biden administration officials.
Speaker 3: The headline is this Iran wants Trump eliminated by election day.
Speaker 3: Goes on to say, the Islamic regime in Iran is
Speaker 3: trying to assassinate former President Donald Trump with the hopes
Speaker 3: of doing so before November fifth. Multiple government agencies associated
Speaker 3: US allies across the Middle East have informed Donald Trump
Speaker 3: of the of the dangers. The Iranian regime has made
Speaker 3: it clear at once to kill or assassinate Donald Trump
Speaker 3: and must do so by November fifth. Then I'm looking
Speaker 3: at this other story that News Nation had a large
Speaker 3: part about, which is the Trump shooter had multiple encrypted
Speaker 3: accounts overseas. According to Representative Waltz of I think of
Speaker 3: Florida the government and nearly killed former President Trump at
Speaker 3: a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania last month, using crypted messaging
Speaker 3: accounts on multiple platforms based in Belgium, New Zealand and Germany,
Speaker 3: according to a House of Representative appointed pointed to investigate
Speaker 3: the matter. So, on one hand, we caught and he's
Speaker 3: been shot. Thank god, it was a it was a
Speaker 3: Grays type wound. But Congressman Michael Waltz of Florida, retired
Speaker 3: Green Beray, is part of a thirteen member House bipartisan
Speaker 3: task force investigating the assassination. I would say there's not
Speaker 3: more than two or three nineteen year olds who live
Speaker 3: in the literally their parents' basement, that work in a
Speaker 3: nursing home, that have access to encrypted accounts in three
Speaker 3: different countries. Are these events at all related? Before we
Speaker 3: talk about the conventions, I always.
Speaker 2: Have a hard time believing fully in these things. Do
Speaker 2: we know everything about the assassination of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Do we need to learn more?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I tend to try to deal in connected facts, not
Speaker 2: unconnected facts with a lot of leaps made. So is
Speaker 2: what you're saying possible, and is it possible it is
Speaker 2: all connected? Is it possible that the would be assassined
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump was somehow much more than what we
Speaker 2: know him to be right now, which is a very
Speaker 2: disturbed young man. Absolutely, But I don't think disproved that,
Speaker 2: nor do I think we can get to the point
Speaker 2: yet of saying that somehow he was influenced, which I
Speaker 2: think what you're suggesting by foreign actors.
Speaker 3: And the other thing, the Secret Service members have put
Speaker 3: on leave, been put on leave, several have been put
Speaker 3: on leave subject to more discipline. So you have federal
Speaker 3: government agencies leaving a wide open Donald Trump with a
Speaker 3: clear shot from like one hundred and forty yards away
Speaker 3: from someone who was in the scopes of the Secret
Speaker 3: Service and also snipers, letting him in a sense do
Speaker 3: what he did. Then you have an I don't know
Speaker 3: what an encrypted account is. Maybe you do, but I
Speaker 3: would say there's not more than one or two nineteen
Speaker 3: year olds with encrypted accounts overseas. And then throw on
Speaker 3: top of that the fact that Heron very much so
Speaker 3: does not want Donald Trump to become the president. They
Speaker 3: like the policies of Kamala Harris you pull that together,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, thank god he missed by half an
Speaker 3: inch would have tore off the right side of Donald
Speaker 3: Trump's skull and we'd be in a different position. And
Speaker 3: I just and this thing is dead right now that
Speaker 3: this happened last month and there's no discussion, The mainstream
Speaker 3: media doesn't cover the story anymore. And also before we
Speaker 3: talk about the convention that Leland Venter, the US House
Speaker 3: Select Committee is recommending the impeachment and maybe the indictment
Speaker 3: of Joe Biden for collecting millions of dollars directly and
Speaker 3: indirectly from communists Red China when he was the vice president.
Speaker 3: That may continue through now. So you have a compromised president,
Speaker 3: You have Kamala Harris who wants to I imagine, continue
Speaker 3: the failed policies the past four years, put them on steroids.
Speaker 3: You have this, this attempt at assassin, this murderer who
Speaker 3: had encrypted multiple platforms overseas, and then on top of that,
Speaker 3: you have Iran announcing we're going to kill the guy.
Speaker 3: Those events related, unrelated. What do you say, Leland Villard.
Speaker 3: I'm not a conspiratorily guy myself, but this looks.
Speaker 2: Still Bill, I don't I think the House investigation into
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and what may or may not have transpired
Speaker 2: with his family business dealings in China, that we've been
Speaker 2: promised indictments and investigations and impeachments and all these things
Speaker 2: for months and for years that have not materialized. And
Speaker 2: the Donald Trump assassination is a heck of a reach.
Speaker 2: And that's sort of like trying to You're you're trying
Speaker 2: to leave the chasm in two bounds here, my friend
Speaker 2: and I I just I think that there are real
Speaker 2: issues with the with the Biden presidency. I think there's
Speaker 2: real issues with President Biden's foreign business dealings. I think
Speaker 2: there's real issues with the investigation into Donald Trump's asassination
Speaker 2: attempt and how we don't know everything. And there's real
Speaker 2: questions about how this young man who seeming to lead
Speaker 2: to be a young complete screw up, who spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time online ends up with no digital footprint
Speaker 2: and one hundred and fifty yards away from the former
Speaker 2: president and Republican nominee for president. All of those things
Speaker 2: are good questions. I do not think they are related.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to the conventions here. We're
Speaker 3: at both and I watched a lot of your coverage
Speaker 3: on News Nation talk about the Republican convention in Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: the Democratic convention in Chicago. Did each of the parties
Speaker 3: do what they intended? Give me a full report.
Speaker 2: Both parties did exactly what they intended. Neither party will
Speaker 2: end up living up to how they were feeling on
Speaker 2: Thursday night, And by that I mean on Thursday night
Speaker 2: or Friday morning after the Republican Convention, they were all
Speaker 2: talking about putting Minnesota in Virginia in play. And Democrats
Speaker 2: leaving today think that Kamala Harris is going to sweep
Speaker 2: the Sunbelt and hold the Blue ball And this is
Speaker 2: Barack Obama two thousand and eight again, and it's not
Speaker 2: that either. So the conventions did what they're designed to
Speaker 2: do for the party faithful, and now we move forward.
Speaker 3: Is it capable? Is she possibly able to withstand an
Speaker 3: independent objective questioning from a news media type like yourself.
Speaker 3: Is it possible she can go the entire election without
Speaker 3: presenting herself maybe to an Oprah Winfrey or Joe Scarborough interview?
Speaker 3: Is it conceivable she can hide for the next seventy
Speaker 3: five days.
Speaker 2: Well, she's hidden for the past thirty four I don't
Speaker 2: know whether I'm not going to pass judgment on whether
Speaker 2: or not she is capable or not. You know, they
Speaker 2: like to say in investing, the past performance is not
Speaker 2: indicative of future results, or proof of future results, or
Speaker 2: promise the future results. But in the past, when she
Speaker 2: sat down for interviews, even with relatively friendly or certainly
Speaker 2: not adversarial journalists, she's done quite She's done quite poorly.
Speaker 2: I e. Lester Holt, let me just play this out
Speaker 2: for you. She said, she's going to do an interview
Speaker 2: before the end of August, so let's take her to work.
Speaker 2: She does an interview next week. It's fairly pleasant. It's
Speaker 2: with Tim Walls, it's with Doug em Hoff, It's with
Speaker 2: Walls's wife. It's about their newfound joy in campaigning and
Speaker 2: how these two families, you know, one sort of the
Speaker 2: coastal liberal leade of m Hoff and Harris versus Walls
Speaker 2: and his wife, the teachers from Minnesota have have found
Speaker 2: this common ground in this view of America that involves sunshine,
Speaker 2: unicorns and pots of gold, and they are they all uh,
Speaker 2: you know, play bridge together or whatever it is. In
Speaker 2: the interview that they set up that the families now
Speaker 2: get along so well. Fine. Then you get to Labor day,
Speaker 2: everyone will have forgotten about the interview because it will
Speaker 2: have been something like the vanilla ice cream cone you
Speaker 2: had as you finished out summer. Then we get to
Speaker 2: Labor Day and the next week she can't do any
Speaker 2: interviews because she's got the debate. She does well in
Speaker 2: the debate, she won't have to do another interview. No,
Speaker 2: she does poorly in the debate, she.
Speaker 3: Might And the thing is always it's a referendum on
Speaker 3: the current administration. So in historically it is quite rare
Speaker 3: for a VP to come out of the shadow of
Speaker 3: the president and win. Just in recent history. You might
Speaker 3: go back to Eisenhower with Richard Nixon lost in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 3: You were Humphrey after LBJ lost to Nixon in sixty eight.
Speaker 3: Later on you have Mondale, the VP of Carter losing
Speaker 3: in eighty four. The only successful one because it was
Speaker 3: a referendum on the administration of Ronald Reagan, was nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty eight with Bush forty one. He won. Then after
Speaker 3: that VP Gore runs on his own and loses to Bush.
Speaker 3: And then you have, of course, this VP is running
Speaker 3: and the shadows of Joe Biden. Isn't this going to
Speaker 3: be a referendum on the on the last four years
Speaker 3: whether Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did a good job
Speaker 3: and deserve more? Or can she can she get rid
Speaker 3: of can she shed the idea that I'm not Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: I'm not the old Kamala Harris. I'm the new Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris and I want to spend a lot more money.
Speaker 3: Isn't this a referendum on the last four years of
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris and the fact that seventy percent of us
Speaker 3: are so believe America is on the wrong course. Isn't
Speaker 3: that a millstone around her neck?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to reject the premise of your question
Speaker 2: and answer and answer in a way that I would like,
Speaker 2: which is to say that if you are correct, and
Speaker 2: it is a referendum on Joe Biden in the past
Speaker 2: four years, pauland tells us Kamala Harris will lose if
Speaker 2: it is a referendum on Donald Trump's temperament and mean tweets,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump will lose. So who defines the field of
Speaker 2: battle in politics, defines the race? You know? Tell me?
Speaker 2: Tell me? And I'm trying to remember the name of
Speaker 2: the pollster that said this, but it's genius. Tell me,
Speaker 2: tell me the field of battle, tell me who defined
Speaker 2: my candidate, and tell me who defines the opposition, and
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who wins. That's what politics is about.
Speaker 2: So if if if Donald Trump and his supporters are
Speaker 2: able to hang the past four years as a millstone
Speaker 2: around Kamala Harris's neck, then Kamala Harris will lose. It's
Speaker 2: pretty simple. If Kamala Harris, as she tried last night,
Speaker 2: is able to shed that and and somehow create and
Speaker 2: we wrote in war Notes my subscription service UH a
Speaker 2: free subscription newsletter email that the Democrats with hope that
Speaker 2: America has a sense of amnesia. If you listened to
Speaker 2: her last night, it.
Speaker 1: Was as though Donald Trump was the incumbent, right, And
Speaker 1: if that is how the race is framed, then she
Speaker 1: will win because people are unhappy and she's offering something different.
Speaker 3: The big issue is almost always the personal economy of
Speaker 3: an individual voter determines the ballot. So if this battlefield
Speaker 3: will be what is the status of the economy, what
Speaker 3: is the status of inflation that continues to be stubbornly
Speaker 3: high especially when it comes to food and energy, and
Speaker 3: if it's the status of illegal immigration. If Donald Trump
Speaker 3: can fight on immigration, the economy and inflation and there's
Speaker 3: no and Americans care about foreign policy but not really.
Speaker 3: I think most of us could not locate Gaza on
Speaker 3: a map or Ukraine, but they're terribly important. But nonetheless,
Speaker 3: most Americans think, how's my personal circumstances, how's my job?
Speaker 3: How much? How bad is inflation? And do I perceive
Speaker 3: the southern border and collapse? And Kamala Harris was in charge. Therefore,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris can't win. On the other hand, if the
Speaker 3: media and Kamala Harris want to talk about the temperament
Speaker 3: of Donald Trump and mean tweets and insults, and then
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris can win and we continue on the same
Speaker 3: course for the next four years. I think at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I hope that the American people
Speaker 3: look at their personal lives and say, we can't continue
Speaker 3: like this. There's a whole bunch of people living quite well.
Speaker 3: I think you and me included. However, there's a whole
Speaker 3: tens of millions of Americans that worry about how much
Speaker 3: rent's going up and what it costs to buy a
Speaker 3: home and interest rates that continue to be stubbornly high.
Speaker 3: There's a perception that illegal immigration is destroying the fabric
Speaker 3: of our country. There's a sense that utility bills I
Speaker 3: know and my Cincinnati utility bills have gone up thirty
Speaker 3: percent in the past three years. And the pass through effect.
Speaker 3: If you look at that, if people sit down around
Speaker 3: the kitchen tape and say, am I better off today
Speaker 3: than I was four years ago? The majority Americans would say, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not better off. Your analysis please.
Speaker 2: All very fine points. Fifty percent of Americans tell pollsters
Speaker 2: that they believe they're broke. Roughly two thirds say they
Speaker 2: love paycheck to paycheck. So that's where you're walking into this.
Speaker 2: When it comes to foreign policy, I would say how
Speaker 2: people feel is quite important. Whether they feel safe, whether
Speaker 2: they feel America is strong. You're old enough to remember.
Speaker 3: I am not.
Speaker 2: The nineteen eighty election, there was both an economic component
Speaker 2: and a foreign policy component. Monday is the third anniversary
Speaker 2: of the Abbey Gate bombing in Afghanistan, thirteen Americans killed
Speaker 2: during the Biden Harris withdrawal from Afghanistan. Noteworthy that that
Speaker 2: was not discussed last night, Right in terms of all
Speaker 2: the foreign policy things that Kamala Harris talked about. But
Speaker 2: I would I would go one step further with you.
Speaker 2: We watched Donald Trump last night or yesterday break all
Speaker 2: the norms and have an event on the Thursday of
Speaker 2: the opposition candidate's convention. Right, you remember back in the
Speaker 2: day the candidates took this. Okay, He went down to
Speaker 2: the border, and this is where he was going to
Speaker 2: stake his claim that the border was where the Biden
Speaker 2: Harris administration failed the most. And he was going to
Speaker 2: make the point that under Donald Trump, the border is
Speaker 2: going to be closed as opposed to the person he
Speaker 2: was running against it. And I will ask you, Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 2: the Great American, how long did it take in Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's remarks at the border? All the network cameras were there,
Speaker 2: everybody was watching him. How long did it take for
Speaker 2: him to say Kamala Harris's name?
Speaker 3: About ten seconds?
Speaker 2: Nope, eleven minutes, eleven minutes, eleven minutes. He complained about Joe,
Speaker 2: He complained that he wasn't running against Joe Biden anymore.
Speaker 2: He complained about how unfair it was. He had all
Speaker 2: sorts of grievances that had absolutely nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the issues that you just brought up that matter to Americans.
Speaker 2: Those are the issues. Those are the if he's but
Speaker 2: if he's unable to prosecute that case rather than prosecuting
Speaker 2: his own grievances. Americans care about the future, They care
Speaker 2: about themselves. They do not care about Donald trump'scruvances. And
Speaker 2: I think for Republicans, they've got to take a straw,
Speaker 2: a hard look at the next seventy seventy five days
Speaker 2: and say, in this candidate, which is what Donald Trump is?
Speaker 2: Can he meet Americans where they're at? And where they're
Speaker 2: at is not Donald Trump's grievances. They're the issues you
Speaker 2: brought up.
Speaker 3: And I would have tied Kamala Harris from the get go.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the whole thing. I watched some of it.
Speaker 3: I'm doing other stuff, But nonetheless, that's Kamala Harris's border.
Speaker 3: Those victims are Kamala Harris's victims. And I would have
Speaker 3: pointed out that she was smoking pot when she was
Speaker 3: prosecuting a thousand black men for smoking pot, and I
Speaker 3: would have stayed on Kamala Harris completely ignored Joe Biden
Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris gave an interview in what she said,
Speaker 3: I was in the room, the last person in the
Speaker 3: room when the President Joe Biden decided to do what
Speaker 3: he did in Afghanistan. I would have tie that around
Speaker 3: or two. And he's got a prospecte a eleven minutes.
Speaker 3: It's got to be eleven seconds, got to be like,
Speaker 3: this is Kamala Harris's border right here, because you're not
Speaker 3: running against Joe Biden anymore. Well, Leland, we got to run.
Speaker 3: It's great stuff. And uh, I guess we're blessed to
Speaker 3: live in interesting times and I at times wish they
Speaker 3: weren't so interesting.
Speaker 2: But uh well, you know you know what, Bill, The
Speaker 2: other way to look at it is, we live in
Speaker 2: the greatest country on earth. We all we all have
Speaker 2: the end of summer to look forward to. Yep, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be anywhere else right now, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: That now Labor Day weekend, next weekend, it's going to
Speaker 3: be good. But Leland Vitter, thank you. I watched you
Speaker 3: last night with the analysis afterwards on News Nation, and
Speaker 3: once again thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Leland,
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Sure, thank you all.
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