WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:08.880 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:11.160 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:11.960 we are. 5 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:15.400 Get off our show, idiots. The kids are playing a 6 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.039 trail off countries. 7 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:17.559 Are screwing it up. 8 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:20.879 Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. 9 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:24.000 They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 10 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:25.760 Who's the kid here? 11 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:27.640 Who's the kid here? 12 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:30.760 Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee? 13 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.200 Well not quite Nick Coffee. One more day with the 14 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.759 arms scuff Fitzgerald together with John Alden, and then the 15 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:40.840 afternoon Underdog is gonna take you out the rest of 16 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.119 the week, Nick and join himself a good vacation. 17 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:45.960 Hey, welcome in. We're gonna take you on this ride home. 18 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:48.719 Pretty crazy weather out there. I started to see some 19 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.840 severe thunderstorm watches and warnings, and as we continue on 20 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.840 in this muggy, humid summer. Now big news if you're 21 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:57.759 like me. As soon as I get off here, I'm 22 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.159 heading over to Lynn Family Stadium to take in lu 23 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:00.880 City tonight. 24 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:03.000 You don't have to be necessarily worried about it, but 25 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.439 go a little bit further south. You know down in 26 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.480 Bullock County Breckinridge County there might be a little something 27 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.599 going on there, so we'll keep you posted right here 28 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.599 at Sports Talk seven ninety. Should there be anything that 29 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:16.000 you need to know, John Alden, good afternoon, till you, 30 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:17.159 my friend, Good afternoon. 31 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.319 It did look a little spooky driving into day. 32 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:21.120 I meant to ask you because I've been in these 33 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.439 four walls here this afternoon. I didn't get a chance 34 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:24.840 to see anything out there. I just saw some of 35 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.840 the weather, noticing the watches and warnings that were out there, 36 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:28.920 so I looked pretty crazy. 37 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:30.359 Yeah, we had a little bit at least I had 38 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.040 a little bit of rain driving in, but it was 39 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:33.879 one of those things that once you got through it, 40 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:35.760 that was kind of it. But like you said, there 41 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:38.000 could be some more stuff later this evening and I'm 42 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:40.239 out in Bullet County, so okay effect me tonight. 43 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.040 Okay, Yeah, Now it looked like at least when I 44 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.200 checked the weather app because going to see I rocked 45 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.400 Frankfurt take on lou City tonight, looks like we're gonna 46 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.640 be okay for the match. So we'll see what happens. 47 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:54.879 But again, keep with us at iHeart level. We'll keep 48 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:57.400 you out today. Man, do we have a lot to 49 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:01.000 unpack this afternoon. We've got it. Spent a crazy day 50 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:04.159 at the Olympics. I've had them on all day. Lots 51 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:06.920 of stuff going on there. Spoiler alert if you want 52 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:07.519 to tune out. 53 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:08.520 For a little bit, go ahead. 54 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.039 I know a lot of people are primetime in gymnastics tonight. 55 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:14.000 We're going to talk about that. The US men's volleyball 56 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.439 team got a five set victory over Germany, but big 57 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:20.840 start the USA rugby. The women shock Australia to win bronze. 58 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.319 What they're calling I don't even know if I can 59 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.840 say this right. Nadala Crez. They're combining Carlos Alcarez and 60 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.520 Rafe on the doll because they're playing now and so 61 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.000 they're making some noise in doubles. 62 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.080 So we've got that to talk about obviously. 63 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:37.719 And if you've been living under a rock, we're going 64 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.240 to talk about TVT the fallout from TBT. The Reds 65 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.680 are active in the trade deadline. We've got a lot 66 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.439 going on in minor league baseball and college football. We 67 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.639 got preseason honors going out to the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers 68 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.319 and the Louisville Cardinals as they get ready to open 69 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.680 camp training camp rolling along for the Bengals. Fans are 70 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.120 breathing a sigh of relieve. We'll talk about why that 71 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:01.240 was as well. So a lot of them moving parts there, John, 72 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.000 as we were talking about on the show this morning, 73 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:03.520 and that is. 74 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.840 When we flipped this calendar. Tomorrow's the last day of July. 75 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.680 When we flipped this calendar and go to August, dude, 76 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.080 and once the Olympics are over, it's game on. I 77 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.960 mean we're getting there. It is game on for sports, dude. 78 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:19.759 But yeah, big story last night and it's been the 79 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.240 a story talked about all day. That of course, was 80 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:27.039 talking about the thriller that was TBT last night, and 81 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:28.599 I'll at John fan to tell you about it. 82 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:32.120 From FS one, what's so with harolinum trying to break 83 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:38.560 the hearts of Louisville fans? Plus attacks, catch it shootings. 84 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:44.520 Yeah, well that wasn't it. 85 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:48.159 Andrew Harrison dropped that three pointer to send La Familia 86 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:50.599 the uklum. They hit the target score seventy to what 87 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.719 you talked about yesterday, John. Where you end the games, 88 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.719 of course, is with the net scoring. They're gonna go 89 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:57.240 on the beat. 90 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:01.360 They beat the bill seventy to sixty one, but it 91 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.039 was what happened afterwards that has everybody's attention. 92 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:07.080 We've got some extra curriculars on the floor here now, 93 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:13.000 two teams going after it. Not surprising they got police 94 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.280 here on the floor. You knew it would be personal. 95 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:19.560 Leave it to a Harrison to knock down the game winner. 96 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.199 And now pensions are rising here and now this is 97 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:23.279 a scene you do not want. 98 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.639 Nobody wanted it, and you had police on the floor 99 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.480 and John, when we met twenty four hours ago, we 100 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.879 were just raving at what a great matchup this was. 101 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:34.079 Yeah, when we were talking about how this is kind 102 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:37.319 of a precursor to the renewal of the Louisville versus 103 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.600 Kentucky basketball rivalry, it's kind of been. I don't want 104 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:42.560 to say it's been non existing because the games were 105 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.759 played with Kenny Payne and John Caliperry, but those are 106 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.879 some of the least exciting games you've ever seen. And really, 107 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:52.720 with the terrible seasons that Louisville had as a whole, 108 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:54.519 there was just not a lot on the line. And 109 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:57.959 getting to have this matchup in July is something that 110 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.639 the fans, the alumni, everybody he's been super excited about, 111 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:05.600 and things were chippy pretty much throughout the entire game. 112 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.360 And to see everything come to a head the way 113 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.600 that it did once La Familia got the victory, it 114 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.040 was it was definitely, I want to say, it was 115 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.480 surprising in the fact that I didn't really expect it 116 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.160 to really get to that level. I did expect some chippiness, 117 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:22.120 as I'm sure a lot of people fans of this 118 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.680 rivalry might have thought as well. But to see it 119 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:27.639 escalate the way that it did, it was, that was 120 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:29.120 something that was something else well. 121 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.759 And here's how it According to Nate Custina, who led 122 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.399 a lot familiar with twenty two points last night, he 123 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.800 was directly involved with it, and here's how he said. 124 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:37.600 It all went down. 125 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:40.040 Emotions ran high. It's what this game does to people. 126 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:42.519 It had been great chatter the whole game, nothing crazy, 127 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:45.759 nothing personal, and then it got personal. Obviously ELL's down 128 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.879 versus L's up. It's what this game is. He was 129 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:49.839 just like, don't do L's down in here. I was 130 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.120 just like, all right, like ELL's down always, and then 131 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.920 he walked away and then stepped at me. Whatever my 132 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.160 back was turned and then you know, and then he 133 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.480 spit in my face. Mister owaku, I'm gonna leave it 134 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.920 at that. Nothing crazy spit at me. That's on him, 135 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:05.399 of course. 136 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.439 So he's talking about his chinhuanu on a walk who 137 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:09.600 says he accuses him of spitting at him. And I 138 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.399 know people on social media have been calling for some 139 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:16.560 sort of evidence that that actually happened. I don't think 140 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.240 and I don't have a dog in this fight because 141 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.639 you know, I know there's there's Kentucky haters out there. 142 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:22.800 And I know there's Louisville haters out there. I don't 143 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.120 have a dog in this fight. I'm just strictly impartial 144 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.319 because we cover both of them here at iHeart Louisville. 145 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:30.879 I don't know that anybody's gonna have it. 146 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.639 But I don't think Cistina is going to make that 147 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.600 allegation if that didn't happen. I don't think you're going 148 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:40.120 to see though that sort of escalation unless there's legitimacy 149 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.360 to it. I'm gonna tell you what it was though. 150 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:48.319 It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing on both sides. It 151 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:54.000 was embarrassing for the TBT. It was because I'm gonna 152 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.319 tell you, and I heard from folks who live out 153 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.759 of town. Who I mean, if you live here in Louisville, 154 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.879 you totally get it right. People Louisville fans hate the 155 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.199 l's down, just like in Texas and Oklahoma they hate 156 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:07.279 the horns down. That gets you going, it gets under 157 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:09.839 your skin. But I'm gonna tell you that the look 158 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:14.000 it had because let me just be totally honest with you, 159 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.800 people outside of the cities that are still alive in 160 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:22.240 the TVT do not care about the TVT are not 161 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:22.759 watching it. 162 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:24.000 They're they're just not. 163 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.920 It's it's it's not it's It's like, why would you 164 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.199 watch a soccer match going on the West Coast between 165 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:34.319 you know, you see College of this choice versus you 166 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.439 see College of that choice, you wouldn't watch it, but 167 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:38.040 folks out west would watch that. 168 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.800 So, but what folks are seeing now. 169 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.279 Is an embarrassing melee at the end of the game 170 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.639 because someone spit in someone's face. 171 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:53.040 Allegedly what are we twelve? And that's what fans are 172 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.160 hearing and there's no evidence for it. I mean, we 173 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:00.399 now spitting in people's faces. So what is that say 174 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:02.120 about the environment? 175 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.279 And then I'm sure, John, you've seen the social media 176 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:09.160 videos of the fans. I think Nick retweeted the fans 177 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.040 that were flipping the crowd off and using a few 178 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:18.360 I guess well oiled language. Yes, and that's what the 179 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.399 rest of America is seeing. Because it's bad enough you've 180 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:27.680 got to fight that stereotype here in Kentucky already, but 181 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.040 now that's what the rest of the nation sees. So 182 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.159 you took And that's why I'm glad you said what 183 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:37.559 you said, John, because you took what yesterday was an 184 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:41.919 absolute just a titanic setup to have a lot of fun, 185 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.320 and within a matter of seconds you turn it into 186 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.720 probably one of the most embarrassing moments in sports for 187 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:53.639 this area, in an area that prides itself on basketball. 188 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:57.639 You know, people here don't like it when they say, hey, 189 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:01.320 you got tobacco road, but this is Kentucky, which I 190 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.320 totally get, by the way, because I think one of 191 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.279 the first things I think of when I hear Kentucky 192 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.879 before I moved here some twenty almost thirty years ago, 193 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:12.159 was I thought about basketball. 194 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:14.320 I'll be honest with you. 195 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:16.480 I remember growing up in the days and I hear 196 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.240 in al Maguire and NBC Sports and seeing the dark 197 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.759 backdrop of Freedom Hall and seeing the red Louisville on 198 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.399 the court and Denny Crum on NBC Sports. That's what 199 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.039 I thought of when I heard Kentucky, because I hadn't 200 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:32.080 never been to the state before, and that's what I 201 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:32.440 thought of. 202 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:33.720 But within. 203 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.399 Within just a matter of seconds, we have now taken that. 204 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:44.039 And now let me back up, this too will pass. Okay, 205 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.639 It's not like Kentucky's forever going to be tarnished by this. 206 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.759 I don't want that to be insinuated here. I totally 207 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:50.200 get that. 208 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.519 There's a lot of good things happening in this state 209 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.879 that you know, we've got too, as John, as we 210 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.279 talked about yesterday, we got two great coaches coming into 211 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:00.480 the mix. Now that when this rivalry it's back to 212 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:04.600 the regular basketball. I think we're gonna have something special here. 213 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:06.720 I think this is I mean, you always you're gonna 214 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.399 have the rivalry. You need the rivalry. And look, Gible fans, 215 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.039 I know the l's down gets under your skin. Let 216 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.320 it go, Let it go. I was telling Tony today 217 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.799 on the show. Remember Will Clark when he worked here, Yes, 218 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.960 he would get hate mail and he got a couple 219 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.279 of emails one time, and you know he would tell me, 220 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.559 I just can't stop reading that I kiss, I said, Willie. 221 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.840 When you get hate mail, dude, take the email, read 222 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:36.200 it if you want. I don't ever read them. I 223 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:37.840 just I can tell right away by the subject like 224 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:39.720 what they are. I just delete them, I. 225 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.759 Said, But then immediately go to your recycle bent and 226 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.480 delete it out of there. Otherwise you'll keep It's like 227 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.120 when you lose a tooth and you keep putting your 228 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:48.519 tongue in where that tooth is missing. 229 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.440 You'll keep doing that. Mobile fans, You're just gonna have 230 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.759 to learn to deal with the L's down. I mean, 231 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.679 I don't know what else to tell you. It's not 232 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:01.039 going away. And the more you let it get under 233 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.080 your skin, the more some cats some and I want 234 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:08.279 to say some, because there are good cat fans out there, 235 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.320 just like there's good and bad fans. Everywhere there's good, 236 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:12.919 there's good UO of L fans, there's bad U of 237 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.120 L fans. But until you learn to let the L's 238 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.080 down thing go, they're going to continue to put that 239 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:18.720 in your face. 240 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.279 And I've had to deal with that. I've I've been 241 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.879 to the Michigan Ohio State game. I traveled to the 242 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:29.080 belly of the Beast, and I've sat in Columbus amongst 243 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.440 those fans. Now, I wasn't stupid enough to wear Michigan 244 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:35.000 gear because you're just it's just a miserable experience. 245 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:37.120 Oh, I want to ask you about that skut. So 246 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.759 you go to Ohio Stadium for the big game. Yeah, yeah, 247 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.840 and you're not wearing Michigan gear. But I'm assuming you're 248 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.320 wearing something neutral. Is that kind of just yeah? I 249 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.879 just I just put on clothes. I just I feel like, 250 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:51.320 do people still assume that you might just be a 251 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.480 Michigan fan in disguise or maybe just a casual person. 252 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.440 You're not at the Michigan and Ohio State game by accident. 253 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.519 I feel like you're either wearing Ohio State gear or 254 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.159 you're trying to not look like you're a Michigan fan, 255 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:03.639 one of the two. 256 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:04.000 Right. 257 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:05.799 No, And you bring up a great point. 258 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:07.559 Let me tell you how that all went down and 259 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.919 the reason why I went two years. Because we know 260 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.159 somebody who works through Huntington Mortgage. They're a big sea 261 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:16.399 bus business and good good friends of ours, just really 262 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.279 good friends He's like, look, I got tickets from Michigan 263 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:19.840 Ohio State or you're a Michigan guy, you want to. 264 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.080 Come down watch the game? So of course I do. 265 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.600 So I got down there, and I've done Michigan Ohio 266 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.440 State before, and it's just it's it's ugly. 267 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:30.840 It's I'm going to a Bengals game one time wearing 268 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.919 a Michigan jersey and couldn't enjoy the Bengals game. 269 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.759 So so what I did was is that go. And 270 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:40.200 what was really funny about this. I snuck a flaskin 271 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:42.639 and I had some makers and there was a guy 272 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.279 sitting next to me, and he goes, what you got there? 273 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.879 And I said, got a little makers. He goes, where 274 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:48.279 are you from? 275 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.360 I sai, I'm from Kentucky, live in Louisville. You would 276 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:51.919 you like something? 277 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:52.000 Go? 278 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:52.360 Sure. 279 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.799 So we sat there and we shared my Flaska Makers 280 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.080 and he's just carrying on about dropping f bombs about 281 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:02.120 Michigan and going on and on and on and on, 282 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.559 and I'm just kind of like, okay, all right. But 283 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.480 because I wasn't adorned all in Michigan gear one, I 284 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.679 didn't have to deal with whatever it was he wanted 285 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.000 to say. The equivalent to L's down. But I also 286 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.519 could sit and enjoy the game. Ohio State won the 287 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.080 game far and square. It was well played by Ohio State. 288 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:25.120 But to me, that game was more of the It 289 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:28.759 was more the experience of Michigan and Ohio State. I 290 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.600 wasn't fixated in the wind. It would have been nice 291 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.480 for Michigan to win. I guess call me crazy, but 292 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.480 I sort of respect that rivalry in the tradition, and 293 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.039 I wanted to take that in while I was there 294 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:43.759 because I've seen the game so many years on TV. 295 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:45.720 Would I've liked to have seen it in nan Arbor? 296 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:47.679 Absolutely, I still haven't seen a Michigan Ohio State game 297 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:48.200 in nan Arbor. 298 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:50.200 Would I'd liked to have seen it there? 299 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:50.480 Yeah? 300 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:55.120 But Plus, my buddy from Huntington Mortgage was nice enough 301 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.600 to offer tickets. I wasn't gonna embarrass him, and so 302 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.320 I'm gonna go and relax and enjoying. 303 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:01.799 I'm glad I did. I had a great experience. This 304 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.200 guy was so nice. I have the heart to tell 305 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.960 him I was a Michigan fan. It sounds like getting 306 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:07.480 ready to leave. 307 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:12.799 So when I watched what happened last night, and I 308 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.120 don't want to paint everyone at that game with that brush. 309 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.720 By the way, I'm sure it was a few select 310 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:21.120 fans where it got going. What started It sounds like 311 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:29.720 it started between Sustina and and Waku and then before 312 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.440 that and started to interrupt, but there was no it's okay, 313 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.879 go ahead. The beginning of the chippiness. Really where you 314 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.720 first saw some player interaction was with Chris Jones, and 315 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:39.320 I don't think I don't know remember if it was 316 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.360 with Sustina, I don't think it was. I don't remember 317 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.840 Chris Jones put his face into somebody's chest. At that 318 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:47.799 point you had a double technical and that was early 319 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:48.320 on in the game. 320 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:49.679 Okay, because I didn't see it. I had to get 321 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:49.879 to bag. 322 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:53.720 There was kind of the dirty The dirty play began 323 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:54.679 pretty early on. 324 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:55.559 And I don't know. 325 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:58.519 If it's all this is just because these guys, they 326 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.360 they know what it's like to you're part of this rivalry, 327 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:04.039 but they're so far removed from it that maybe just 328 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.440 the nerves are a little bit different. I don't want 329 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:08.759 to assume anything about any of these players and how 330 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.039 they may have been feeling going into the game, but 331 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.320 when you're in that kind of environment, and all of 332 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.759 this is based on nostalgia, as we've talked about yesterday 333 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.399 and even the weeks doing this knowing that this. 334 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:22.919 Matchup could happen. 335 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.639 Yeah, sometimes maybe the motions get the best of these guys, 336 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:29.279 especially when you're not used to playing them this anymore. 337 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:33.840 It's been so long you don't have this like professionally. 338 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.919 You may have some rivalries, but it's not at all 339 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:40.080 the same thing that you get at the collegiate level. 340 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:42.519 And so when you're around these rabid fan bases once 341 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.039 again for the first time and who knows how many 342 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:48.200 years for some of these guys, it doesn't surprise me 343 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.440 that some of these guys let the emotions get the 344 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.080 best of them. It doesn't excuse it, yeah, but it 345 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:55.639 doesn't surprise me that it happened. 346 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.639 And what do you think, I mean, how many exploratives 347 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.200 do you think we're being hurled from the crowd from 348 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:02.519 both sides, and. 349 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.320 That just probably way too many. And it just goes 350 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:07.080 to show again what we talked about yesterday. 351 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:08.879 The fans want this back. 352 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.120 They wanted to know, and I know you've got to 353 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.559 be able to control yourself, but there hasn't been a 354 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:18.919 truly exciting moment for between the Louisville and Kentucky basketball 355 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.360 rivalry and quite some time that this was kind of 356 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:24.120 their fix for it. And I'm sure a lot of 357 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:26.360 people didn't know how to handle themselves and that's a shame. 358 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:28.679 Great point, but that point, but. 359 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:30.159 That's that's where we're at right now. 360 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.000 John, you bring up an awesome point, and that's why, 361 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:34.440 because that's my question. 362 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.480 And I hate because I'm going to Lowi City game tonight. 363 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:39.159 I'm not gonna be on with Tony tomorrow morning. I 364 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:41.559 just can't cooperate and then try to get up and 365 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.960 go in in the morning. But doctor Charles Pemberton, he's 366 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.279 our our licensed clinical psychologist that comes on with with 367 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.240 Tony every couple of weeks. They're going to talk about 368 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:54.720 sports fandom. So that's that's my question. We all want 369 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:58.759 the rivalries we do. I love the rivalry rivalry with 370 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.080 Ohio State, especially that it's good again. I don't expect 371 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.160 to win every year, But what is it about this craziness, 372 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.920 this this belonging, this this need for identity, And John, 373 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:11.440 I think you and I have been there. You know, 374 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.960 you have Saturday afternoons where your team goes out and 375 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.480 they they lose a game, and you're. 376 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:17.640 Not exactly in a chipper mood. 377 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:19.640 I mean you're not going home and kicking the dog 378 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:23.400 or anything, but you're not in a chipper mood. And 379 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:25.559 then you go and then and then there's times where 380 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:29.440 your team does win that game and you're on cloud nine. 381 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:33.440 I mean, nobody can do any wrong around you. And 382 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.039 doctor Pemberton's going to join Tony tomorrow to talk about 383 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:37.440 why we function that way? 384 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.319 Why is that? Why? 385 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.119 Why is it that it's easy for me to say, hey, 386 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:46.480 Louis fan, let the L's down thing go, But when 387 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.519 emotions are running this high, like you just mentioned, and 388 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.160 you throw that in there, and I'm sure Texas fan 389 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:54.640 we probably said the same thing when they see the 390 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:55.319 horns down. 391 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.480 But why do we do that? Why? What drives that train? Now? 392 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:03.359 I'd like to say since being in the media, I've 393 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.799 been able to kind of, I don't know, soften the 394 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.400 edges a little bit when it comes to stuff like that, 395 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:11.279 because I'm able to be a little bit more objective. 396 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:16.440 My son is a big yo l fan, and but 397 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:19.680 yet and I'm kind of quase impartial again just because 398 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.440 I you know, I'm in the media. So when UK 399 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.000 was having their success at at baseball, I was trying 400 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.519 to bring that up to my son and trying to 401 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.799