WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.480 This is the latest episode of Off Topic with Ben 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:05.919 and Balky, and it's a special one because we have 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:12.000 not done this show in two weeks because Ben was 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:17.280 in Thailand for two weeks. Ben, I have to ask you, 5 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.440 you did not see a lot of movies over in 6 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:24.719 Southeast Asia. This was your first movie in several weeks. 7 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:26.480 I caught Mickey seventeen. 8 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.239 Yeah, that's right, you saw Mickey seventeen. Okay, So the 9 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.600 fact that you you hit the mainland back in the 10 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.799 States here, how exciting was it for your movie watching 11 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:41.200 Stateside to be reintroduced with Mercy Starry Chris Pratt. 12 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.880 Yeah, I'll tell you, man, it was. It was a 13 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:49.399 rough entry for him into into the world of movies. 14 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.359 I'm gonna tell you this right now. There was there 15 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.840 was a stockpile for all the listeners out there. I 16 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.240 know this is gonna be a good episode. I know 17 00:00:57.359 --> 00:00:59.479 this is gonna be a good episode because Ben and 18 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:04.079 I and I knew so. Like so, just so everybody's aware, 19 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.599 I liked this movie a lot. Okay, I liked it 20 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.920 a lot, a lot more than I thought I was 21 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.280 going to like it. And I knew as I was 22 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:14.120 watching this, this is going to join the bulky guilty 23 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:18.079 pleasure films where I have to watch them anytime that 24 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:20.760 you know, they're on television or I see them looking 25 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.799 for something streaming, and this pops up. This joins all 26 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:27.239 those great Jerry Bruckheimer Don Simpson movies of the nineties. 27 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:30.920 This joins pretty much any Nicholas Cage movie ever made. 28 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.680 This is right up there. But I knew when I 29 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.000 was watching it. I just had a feeling. I'm like, 30 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:38.159 you know what, there are a lot of holes in 31 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.799 this plot. Yeah, and I know Ben's going to poke 32 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.000 a lot of them, a lot of holes into this, 33 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.640 and I know he's not going to like it. And well, 34 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:47.079 at least I thought you weren't going to like it. 35 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:52.599 I didn't know, but I was pretty sure. And the 36 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.439 other aspect of this was, as I was watching it, 37 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:01.599 I could not know. There's there's some movies I just 38 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:05.239 zone out to like. I just I can't, And I 39 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:06.760 thought this is gonna be another one. Because I was 40 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.520 seeing it late on a Tuesday. Yeah, and I was like, 41 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.599 you know, I'm probably gonna be snoozing through parts of this. 42 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.240 I never was. I was on the edge of my 43 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.560 seat for And the other thing too, I didn't know how, 44 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:21.479 because there's different ways I could watch this, knowing I 45 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.560 was gonna do the podcast with you. Should I watch 46 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:28.919 it from the socio political aspect or you know, sort 47 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:33.280 of how you always watch things from a very macro 48 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.479 view of what it's trying to tell us. Yes, sure, 49 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.159 from from that standpoint. Should I watch it from the 50 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.639 standpoint of who's really responsible? Who's the true villain in 51 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.280 this movie? Because clearly it's not Chris Pratt, or was it? 52 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.800 You know, we don't know as we're watching it. So 53 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:49.400 there's a lot of different ways. And you know what, 54 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.240 I said, to hell with it. There's just too much 55 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.719 of that. I'm enjoying this too much. I'm just gonna 56 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:55.439 enjoy the hell out of this movie. And I did. 57 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:59.879 Yeah, which that mindset to me kind of does describe 58 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.879 the uh. The we went over the Rotten Tomatoes scores 59 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.280 during my radio show yesterday. I was a twenty eight 60 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.680 by critics and like an eighty two, like basically the 61 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.479 inverse number of audiences. And I was commenting, I've never 62 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.840 seen it that large. If you asked me what kind 63 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.240 of movie would come out of that disparity would be 64 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.719 what we watched yesterday exactly. And the listeners of my 65 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:22.479 show know this. And I was wondering if I was 66 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:24.159 going to lean into this or not, but we may 67 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:26.639 as well. This is not an indictment on the movie. 68 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:28.319 I want to say. I think even if it were 69 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.080 Running Man that I loved very much, when I watched it, 70 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:34.479 I was gonna fall asleep. I am thirteen hours behind. 71 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.879 Okay, that's a good point in terms. 72 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.599 Of when I'm watching things. I was in a dark room. 73 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.199 For those of you that don't listen outside the box, 74 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.879 I woke I missed the last fifteen minutes of the movie, 75 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.120 and I woke up. I was in a dream lounger. 76 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.039 I had reclined my seats and the empty seat next 77 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.759 to me, and I was sleeping horizontally. 78 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:55.120 With my Oh my god, really like it was straight 79 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.960 up like I treated it. I'm so thankful there wasn't 80 00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:58.919 a lot of people in this theater. 81 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.639 You know, guarantee you some people saw me sleep, and 82 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:06.159 I'm so happy that it wasn't an usher like at 83 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:08.680 least I woke up to the credits. And you know 84 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.199 what's funny is I did wake up for one quick second, 85 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.680 and like fulky, I genuinely thought I was in my 86 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.759 house because I woked up, woke up, I looked at 87 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.040 the screen, and I went, oh, I predicted it was 88 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:19.000 going to be that guy. 89 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.399 And then I went right back to bed. Yeah. So 90 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.120 so so a couple of things on that. So number one, 91 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.519 this is not unlike how the movie starts where Chris 92 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.959 Pratt kind of wakes up and doesn't know where he 93 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:36.399 is right his character. And then number two, when I 94 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.759 was I did, I was playing the villain game of like, okay, 95 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:41.560 is it is it her? Is it him? Is it 96 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.639 you know or whatever? And I'm like, I'm pretty sure 97 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:49.560 this is the person. Yeah, you know, spoiler free. But 98 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.240 as I was deciding on that person, I'm like, I 99 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:54.759 think Kamenos is going to get this one right too. Yeah, 100 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:57.240 And it didn't surprise me. And by the way, that 101 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:01.319 wasn't even the big twist or cliff like, I don't 102 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.920 even know what it is. Then okay, no, there's another 103 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.040 big twist, because there's all there is almost well, there's 104 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.639 a there's a big twist at the end, a significant twist. Cool, 105 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:12.480 so how much so you don't even know how this ended? 106 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:14.800 Like I said, I went, did you go on the 107 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.560 internet and like actually read about it. 108 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:18.160 I read a little bit, but I'm not going to 109 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.680 say anything obviously, because we don't do spoilers on this. 110 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.120 But I had to balky it. You had well at 111 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.480 that point, that's not even bulkying it because you sat 112 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:27.680 through it. It was after the. 113 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.399 Yeah, no, exactly. Have you ever fallen asleep in a theater? 114 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.720 Oh? Yeah? Really? The first time I ever did the 115 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.959 first Avatar movie? Oh really, multiple times, I believe that. 116 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:40.480 You know what mine was. 117 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.279 It's a funny one because it's such a deep cut. 118 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.600 It was Ted's Excellent Adventure, the Close Close era, the 119 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.079 Dick Tracy movie. 120 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:50.040 With Warren Baties. 121 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.959 Yeah, al Pacino's Big Boy. I went with my dad. 122 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.759 I couldn't have been older than four years old, and 123 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.279 we both fell asleep. And I like that movie, Like 124 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.399 if you put it on, now, why did you fall asleep? 125 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:03.079 Because I was like, that's just. 126 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.720 Was your did your dad want you to like? Was 127 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:07.120 he a Dick Tracy guy? Growing up? 128 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.279 I don't know why we like, honest to god, man, 129 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.199 it's the first time I remember going to the movies 130 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:13.879 and we fell asleep for yeah, it was just like, yeah, 131 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.959 but that's the only time. I'm not a like I 132 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.759 catch all the midnight releases. I never am that go 133 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:20.480 to bed at a theater kind of gain. 134 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.680 My dad is a massive James Bond fan, like he's 135 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.839 the guy, and I haven't not. I've he's seen every 136 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.120 Bond movie there is. I have not. I watched most 137 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:32.839 of the newer ones, the Pierce brom said Val Kilmer, 138 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.279 the Pierce Brosen ones. I've watched most of those. I 139 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.519 watched all the Daniel Craig ones. And every time a 140 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:39.079 new one comes out, my dad's like, oh, we gotta 141 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:40.439 go see the new Bond movie. You gotta say it. 142 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:43.879 My dad is is well, he's now I'm trying to think. 143 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.519 He turns, oh Man seventy five this year, so he's 144 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.360 not a young man anymore. And when we saw the 145 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:52.199 No Time to Die, which came out I think at 146 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.360 twenty two, like and and he's like, he's got the 147 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:57.519 old man where he's just falls asleep all the time, 148 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:59.800 because you know, you don't sleep well at that age, 149 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:02.839 and so when you don't sleep while you're constantly waking up, 150 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.519 you sleep throughout the day. So he falls asleep a lot. 151 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.079 And I know he was totally into it, and he 152 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:09.839 was still falling asleep. Y, you know, it's just it 153 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:10.519 is one of the things. 154 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.279 Oh, absolutely, absolutely, yea. 155 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:15.839 Now, now let's let's go through this here. Mercy is 156 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:21.639 a movie about an artificial intelligence court. This is set 157 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.720 in the future, right. Did you notice in some of 158 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.000 the emails that were that they showed in this when 159 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.800 these emails were dated the year. Oh, I didn't know. 160 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.759 The year was twenty twenty nine, so a very very 161 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.600 it's not a distant future. This is a very near future. 162 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.319 If I may very quickly, just because this kind of 163 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.920 overlaps in my outside the box world. A think piece 164 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.480 came out today from somebody who resigned from a tech 165 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.959 company saying, the newest model that just released February sixth, 166 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.720 we're recording this on February eleventh, he said. It's the 167 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.199 first time he said the AI. Chatty says, if you 168 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:59.839 used AI two years ago and you used it as 169 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:02.920 like an advanced Google search, he goes, if you came 170 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.399 back and used it today, you wouldn't recognize it. 171 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:05.720 He said. 172 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.639 The AI now has taste, it uses discernment, it does 173 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.399 all these different things. Whether or not that's real or 174 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.120 not is this guy just trying to sell it. I 175 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.560 don't know, but the idea that three years from now, 176 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.279 because we're talking about three years ago and it looked 177 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:22.199 like appared to what's happening now, so it's not out 178 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.399 of the realm of possibility that we're less than a 179 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.879 half a decade away from this this reality right. 180 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:32.600 Essentially, Chris Pratt is a is a police officer. I 181 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:36.159 think he gets promoted a detective at some point, but 182 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:42.120 at the time, the catalyst for all this is basically. 183 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:45.279 The most cop name ever was something Raven. 184 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:53.039 Chris Chris Raven and and something happens, and he is 185 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.360 a big believer in the justice system. The justice system 186 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.919 fails and lets ay criminal go free. And I don't 187 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:02.840 know who developed the tech for this AI court, but 188 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.919 he was a big proponent of this, and why the 189 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.039 city of Los Angeles was looking at a detective like, 190 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.120 oh wow, he's throwing his weight behind us, then then 191 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.240 this has got to be we gotta have this happen 192 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:14.960 or whatever. That was kind of bizarre, not like he 193 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:16.440 was the mayor of da or. 194 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.080 Anything like what the trailers made. It seem like he 195 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:20.480 was the one that creed created it. 196 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:23.799 Yeah, yes, so as we find out in the film, 197 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.600 something happens and he becomes a big proponent because the 198 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.159 justice system fails him. Okay, And so basically what it 199 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.840 is is it is called mercy, the Mercy court or whatever. 200 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:43.320 Anybody charged with a was it a capital crime? Like 201 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.840 a significant crime, you know, like a I had an 202 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:47.600 ounce of weed on me or something like that, which 203 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.159 actually is legal in California. So sure that doesn't matter. Yeah, 204 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:57.879 So you have ninety minutes to prove your self innocent 205 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.200 or at least not guilty. Prove your not guilty. You 206 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:04.080 have ninety minutes in front of this AI judge. You 207 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:06.799 are strapped into a chair, you can't move, but you 208 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.000 have like this big three D computer screen in front 209 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.080 of you, and you have all the assets at your disposal. 210 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.320 This AI can provide you with all this stuff, right, 211 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.600 and and you can prove if you can, you know, 212 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.879 at least the what's the level of guilty? Which is 213 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.960 another Okay, so that was the left. So if you 214 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.919 are ninety two point four percent guilty, you are found 215 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.639 not guilty. Yeah, like that's the which that was bizarre 216 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.639 to me. Hold on, hold on, just let me let 217 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.799 me just us just thought okay. Yeah, and if ninety minutes, 218 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:43.360 if the AI judge, if if that percentage is still 219 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.879 ninety two and a half or higher, you're basically killed 220 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:52.039 instantly with a sonic boom. Okay, death punishment or death penalty, 221 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.639 death penalty, yeah, capital punishment anyway. Chris Pratt in this 222 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.840 film is charged with killing his wife, Okay, and I 223 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:03.799 don't know why. I'm like always telling you, like you 224 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.759 so so you know what's going on. It helps, so 225 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.120 so he and he has ninety minutes to prove it's 226 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:16.559 a real four like it happens in ninety minutes spoiler alert. 227 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.919 This film is like an hour forty five long, so 228 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.080 you know, stuff happens after too, which is great. And 229 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.399 I knew that, like go, I'm like, oh, this is 230 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.360 gonna be great because they're gonna add on this extra stuff. 231 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.000 Okay anyway, but the difference is, like, he's not just 232 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:34.519 some schlub x con right, He's an LAPD police LAPD detective, 233 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.440 So he knows where to go to try to find 234 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.879 evidence of his innocence, and he believes there's no way 235 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.679 he could have done this. And as we're watching more 236 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.440 and more, we're kind of finding out you know what, 237 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.799 maybe maybe it is the maybe it is him. 238 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:52.799 Did you think ever there was a time that he 239 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.159 did it multiple times? Okay, see I was. 240 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:57.279 I never. I was like, if it's at least twice, 241 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:59.399 I should say, Okay, yeah, I was because I thought 242 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.120 that was the big that would be a big twist. 243 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.879 I agree, that would make it a super memorable movie. 244 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.559 And it did stick out to me because he very 245 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.519 clearly he utilizes and this isn't like this happens early 246 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.879 on in the movie. He had extra resources at his disposal, 247 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.200 like he was able to call police for Reilms. 248 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:17.960 Yes, and this which stuck out to me. 249 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.360 I'm just like, so if you or I ended up 250 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.399 in that situation, we might not necessarily have the same 251 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.080 means in order to prove our innocence that this individual 252 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.080 character did. Which is that one of the plot holes 253 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:34.320 you thought? Because that was driving me nuts. 254 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.440 Let's just throw the fact out that that he's a detective. 255 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.080 Rebecca Ferguson played the AI judge. Yeah, you remember her 256 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.080 from Dune form the Mission Impossible. Some of the newer 257 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:47.759 Mission Impossibles did a great job. Okay, So to your 258 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:52.120 point about having access to all this, it really seemed 259 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.840 off putting to me that she would be so the 260 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:57.879 AI judge, we'd be so regimented about you can only 261 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.440 call this person if it's for this reason, you can 262 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.639 only do this for so long or whatever. And he 263 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.600 seemed to get away with a lot of stuff. Right 264 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.320 now if the AI, now this is the other thing, 265 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:10.120 I don't know if it matters that he was a 266 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:17.559 detective because he had or we heard from the AI 267 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:21.559 judge that you have all the resources that artificial intelligence 268 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.639 can provide. And these people that he was calling, you know, 269 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:27.720 they didn't want to talk to him, but once they 270 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.720 heard Maddox for mercy, they they're like, okay, this is serious. 271 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:33.919 Now I have to So there's there's some sort there 272 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:36.799 must be some sort of penalty if you don't take 273 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:40.919 the call or talk if you're called, like you can 274 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.200 be charged with something if you're not talking to this. 275 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.879 So so I don't know if now the advantage he 276 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.279 had as a detective, he kind of knew where to look. 277 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.600 But it seemed to me that even if he wasn't, 278 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.080 you have access to all this stuff, the crime scene, 279 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.840 the files, whatever, and the AI was more than happy 280 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.080 to provide it, which to me Ben and this is 281 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.639 plot hole number one or plot hole number two, whatever, whatever. 282 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:10.200 On what if you are found innocent, okay, and you walk, 283 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.879 what about all that stuff you learned from AI, you know, 284 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:20.399 private texts, calls, police reports, whatever, And now you're just 285 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:23.559 walking as a free person, knowing all this with other people. 286 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:25.600 Point with his daughter. At one point he finds some 287 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.000 stuff out that he otherwise wouldn't have known. And I 288 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.559 mean that that's part of the game, and that that 289 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.960 was probably the most realistic part of it to me, 290 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.519 is the fact that you are actually mandated by law 291 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:38.519 when you get a device, you connect it to this cloud. 292 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.600 Like the idea of privacy is officially dead in this 293 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.440 version of America. If you get a new phone, the 294 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.759 idea of having a burner phone that isn't in the 295 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:50.120 system is a crime. The idea of not connecting certain 296 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.919 profiles to this system is a crime because they need it. 297 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:53.679 We're learning. 298 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.200 You watch the Super Bowl, obviously you have the Ring 299 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.639 Doorbell commercial where it shows you they found the missing 300 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:02.559 dog and it with all the cameras without permission of 301 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.840 the Ring Doorbell owners were searching the files looking for 302 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.960 video of this dog. And I saw that I'm like, man, 303 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:10.919 this is hitting so close to home and so. 304 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:14.440 Many Leveon Bell said about that. No, he put on 305 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:16.480 something of an ex if, like we should all be 306 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.720 taking our ring doorbells and throwing it into boiling pot 307 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:19.399 of water. Yeah. 308 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.159 Yeah, he's spot on with that. That's exactly wrong. I'm 309 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:25.240 with it because again, seeing those commercials and then watching 310 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.960 this happen, it's like, oh man, we're really not that far. 311 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.000 I really did like that element of it. I remember 312 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.080 Terminator Genesis, the one where Khalisi plays Sarah Connor. 313 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:41.320 Oh yeah, Sali Amelia Clark, Yeah yeah, whatever. 314 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.919 That In that movie, Skynet essentially was the Cloud, and 315 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:49.440 I thought that was such a dumb idea. And and 316 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.519 fast forward I think it came out in twenty fourteen. 317 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.360 Fast forward twelve years later. I'm like, oh no, Skynet 318 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:56.399 would totally be the cloud. I don't know what I 319 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.279 was thinking of it. That was actually way far ahead 320 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.360 of its time. Even though that movie is still sucked, 321 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.159 that one element was was way far ahead of its time. 322 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.120 Because I was watching that yesterday and I was like, 323 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:08.240 oh no, this is I have an iPhone sixteen in 324 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.080 my pocket. I just got it. I do not. It 325 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.720 doesn't recognize my face. I have to punch the passcode 326 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.600 in every time because I refuse to attach my face 327 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:17.360 to this phone. 328 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.559 You know what's funny is I always have to punch 329 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.240 in my passcode, but I would be fine putting my 330 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.120 face on it, because I'm just of the opinion that 331 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:28.840 they're gonna get it or they already have it right 332 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.600 at some like like like it's identity theft. 333 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.399 You ever fly internationally. I'm catching a flight from South 334 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.759 Korea to Thailand two weeks ago. I have my passport 335 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:40.679 and my ticket. They go, no, no, no, just look 336 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:42.399 at the camera. And I look at the camera and 337 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:44.720 it says Benjamin Kammano's seat thirty two. 338 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:45.360 Ssh. 339 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.879 And I was like, oh my god, wow, And I 340 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:49.440 actively avoid this shit. 341 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.720 Yeah, so they already had it, Yeah, they already had it. 342 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.120 But that's what I'm talking about. Identity theft is like 343 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:57.159 people already have your stuff. Yeah, you know, it's just 344 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:59.720 a matter of you know, so that which doesn't mean 345 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.159 you could be brazenly advertising it. But I'm not gonna, 346 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.960 you know, freak out about being super secretive like brill 347 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.359 an enemy of the state. Yeah, you know where he 348 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.519 was like he really thought being in a big copper 349 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.799 box would would prevent but now it's get away with it. Okay. 350 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:19.359 So that was one of the pop points I didn't like. 351 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.759 I want to get back to this ninety two percent 352 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:27.279 guilt versus innocence. Do you think that's right? Yeah? I 353 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:31.480 mean if we are on a jury and we believe 354 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.920 that somebody is ninety percent guilty, we should be finding 355 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.200 him innocent. Yeah. 356 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:38.720 No, Because so I took law and justice. 357 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:40.839 Okay, this is good because I want to learn about this. 358 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.680 Here and it's uh so, there's a difference between criminal 359 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.799 trial and civil trial. Criminal trials is beyond a shadow 360 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.160 of a doubt if there is one element of you 361 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.599 that's like, well, maybe you vote not guilty. If you 362 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:54.839 and I are going to civil court about a car 363 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:57.839 accident and fifty one percent of the evidence says I'm 364 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.799 guilty and forty nine says you're guilty, I lose. 365 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:03.880 But in a criminal quot that's because somebody has to 366 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:04.799 lose in that right. 367 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:08.680 It's referred to as a preponderance of the evidence. If 368 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.720 one extra piece of evidence skews this way compared to 369 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.240 the other way. If you threw your door open, and 370 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:17.960 I was driving by, was I texting like, there's several elements. 371 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:18.640 That go in here. The O. J. 372 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:24.279 Simpson glove, Yeah, exactly. OJ Simpson was ninety two percent guilty, 373 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:26.839 you know what I mean? And you get the innocent though, 374 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.319 because and I've watched plenty of documentaries on that. Most 375 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:32.759 people told Marcia Clark, don't tell them to put the 376 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:33.279 glove on. 377 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:34.519 Yeah, you don't know. 378 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.079 And that element of it not fitting him, it's like, well, 379 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.240 wait a minute, the bloody glove doesn't fit. 380 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:41.559 Him, then who the hell if it does not fit you? 381 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.359 Exactly, So ninety two percent feels accurate because it's beyond 382 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:49.799 the shadow of a doubt for murder, because our system, 383 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.480 for all of its flaws, is designed to prevent you 384 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.559 let one hundred innocent or guilty men go free before 385 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:57.920 you kill an innocent man. And that's always been the 386 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.480 attitude and a lot of people of frustration with that. 387 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.319 But I'd argue that's probably the better if the two system. 388 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.400 Yeah, I think I think you're right, and I guess 389 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:07.799 that makes sense. I just it was it was shock. 390 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.160 It was a little shocking to me that, Okay, if 391 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.960 this guy is ninety one percent guilty. 392 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.079 And I like it that the upper bound was ninety 393 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:17.160 eight percent, so they were like, yeah, we're never one 394 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.920 hundred percent certain of anything at any point. I thought 395 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.359 that was a cool element as well. 396 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.160 Do they determine that ninety eight but we can we 397 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:25.559 can go to ninety eight, but we can't go to 398 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:26.160 ninety nine. 399 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:28.240 I think it was just for a funny joke, because 400 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:30.240 when you see ninety eight, and I think he says 401 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.759