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The vote came down early this morning in the Senate

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to defund them, finally fulfilling a wish of conservative and

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Republican and libertarian citizens for decades. And of course this

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is all now the end of the world. I'm not

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going to spend much more time on this, but at

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the end of the last hour we had a call

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from Brian, who I don't really know the point of it.

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How he wanted to complain about warning systems or something

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in Texas but whatever, and so Mark has called in

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with reply, Hello, Mark, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? I couldn't couldn't help, but I want

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to make fun of Mark. I mean, sorry, make fun

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of Brian. There, he didn't he couldn't tell his hand

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from his ass there. Oh my god, Oh yeah, he's

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a primiple of what of how roles are I?

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Speaker 1: Can't you mark? Your signal is dropping in and out?

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It sounds like you're are you walking someplace? Are you driving?

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Speaker 2: Can you uh not trying to give you a Verizon

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commercial book?

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Speaker 1: Can you hear me now? Right now?

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Speaker 2: It's clear okay, Yeah, they've got this checklist to where

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when they hear something, they have to look at their

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checklist to see if it's something that they believe in,

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and the and and and the right column how to

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respond to it as opposed to I mean, it's clear

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as day he wouldn't let you think the way you

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wanted to think. If you want to be a little

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bit liberal here, a little bit Republican there, he's trying

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to say that that's not a good thing. You have

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to go by one column whatever that column says. And

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those are the kind of morons that hold us back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. And that's the very thing that

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they accuse Trump supporters of doing. And I look, I

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recognize that that makes it difficult for people like Brian

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when trying to argue with me that they can't put

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me in a box. It makes it difficult for them.

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I am sympathetic to that, but that's not going to

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prompt me to now abandon principles or opinions and say

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I have to now align with this political party or

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this political leader. I have to agree with everything they say.

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I've never thought that way, and I think that's a problem,

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and it's a problem in the Democrat Party. They're saying

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this themselves party leadership, saying these purity tests are killing

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us in the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's comical how they how they don't they don't

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hear themselves speak when they speak. They can't tell the

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content of what they're of what they're saying. They can't

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analyze of how stupid they sound when they're saying whatever

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they're saying, especially Brian there. I mean, I wish I

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had more jokes. I wish I was a comedian to

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really lay it to him, but well I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think we all we all hear

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how Brian operates. He calls enough shows and we hear

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his pattern. It's a familiar pattern. So yeah, Mark, I

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appreciate the call. It's like I just I give him chances,

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you know, to see if he can engage in the issue.

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And I'm hopeful that one day he will to just

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engage in the issue rather than throw the barbs make

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it personal, you know, oh your present, like those little

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those little slings that he has, Like they don't work

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on me. I don't think they work on any host here.

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They don't work on you know, anybody trying to engage

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in a good faith conversation. And he comes across as

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petty and unprepared, you know. But if you if he

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ever wants to have just a discussion about an issue,

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a topic, like I can do that. I talked about

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this the other day. I had an hour long conversation

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with a niece of mine who was on the left,

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and we talked about all sorts of topics and it

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never got personal because it was all done in good faith.

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It was done like, oh, why do you think the

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way you think? Oh that's interesting, what do you think

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about this? How did you come to that opinion? You know,

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stuff like that. You can engage in that kind of discourse.

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But if you're coming in looking to score points or uh,

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you know, embarrass the host, you or whoever, Like if

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you're if you're going into it to try to destroy

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the per that you're having a conversation with, at some

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point they're going to figure it out. And with Brian,

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I already know that's how he approaches these conversations, and

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so you're not going to get a good faith conversation.

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But I suspect that's not what he wants. That's my suspicion.

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I do have a bunch of messages here on the

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Liberty Buick GMC text line. Here on the PBS and

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NPR cuts. This is from a nine to eight OHO number.

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This is long overdue, Pete. Many more government cuts to go, though.

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Robert in Charlotte says, NPR has so many listeners, why

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weren't they bringing in revenue for the federal government. Private

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radio stations are profitable, so why was NPR costing us money? Pete?

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You should check out the ground News app. Actually, I'm

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an affiliate of theirs, so yes, you can. I use

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ground News all the time because they ground News does

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this thing where it's and I get no money for this,

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by the way, I pay for my subscriptions, So this

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is not illegal to tell you that ground News does a.

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They do a media bias, and so you can see

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where stories are moving and what outlets they're moving on,

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and then the outlets they are. They have ratings compiled

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by these different sources and stuff, so it'll show you,

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like stories that are getting reported heavily by the right

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or by the left, or you know, in the middle whatever,

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So you could see your own blind spots. That's why.

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It's one of the reasons why when people say, you know, oh,

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what about this story? That's why I go. When people

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like Brian call in and they want to raise the

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question about the floods down in Texas and the warning systems,

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that's all being reported on the left, not so much

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on the right. And I know that because Ground News.

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So there you go, and that's not a paid endorsement. Okay.

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I don't know if Pat McCrory is on the PBS stations.

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I don't know that. And I don't know if Brian

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is Tony or not. People keep asking if they are

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the same people, and Sean as well, how many aliases?

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This is another one. How many aliases does he have?

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I don't know. But when Porch oh, it was so

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who is this from Hendersonville? You have apparently mellowed out

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since Brian C. I don't know who Brian C is.

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I think you stopped halfway through your tweet here or

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your text message. Mister Hendersonville, you let nutjob Tony carry

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on and just heard loco Brian venting. But when poor

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Chernobyl Bob called in, you would cut him off, don't you,

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miss old Bob? No, I don't. Chernobyl Bob was a

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guy who when I went to Ashville, one of the

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first callers I got was a caller named Bob, and

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the previous host would allow this caller to just rant,

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and they gave him this nickname Chernobyl Bob because he

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starts off really calm and then he blows up like Chernobyl, right.

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And so when I first started engaging with this guy,

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it didn't take long before much like caller Winston, who

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I have also blocked from my show, but I hear

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them call other shows. Every host can do what they want,

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but I don't take Winston's calls because after you start

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engaging with them a little bit and ask them why

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they think certain things, and ask them for, you know,

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evidence for their opinions and that sort of stuff, all

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of a sudden, it turns into the Jews. It's the Jews.

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And at that point it's like, okay, I'm done. I

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I have no patience for it. And the guy starts

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screaming and yelling and going off the deep end and

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he can curse and you know, jeopardize the FCC license.

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So now that's why like the callers that I allow

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on to the program, and to be sure I allow

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them on. I don't have to put them on, but

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I choose to put them on. But whatever you think

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of Brian or Tony or whatever names they're using, they're

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not dropping F bombs. They're not cursing, right, And as

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long as people stay within the FCC guidelines and stuff,

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I'm I'm fine with that. And you know, or it's

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like you want to you want to blame everything on

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Jewish people, like, either way, yeah, that'll get your banned

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and usually. I mean I warned Bob too, and then

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I let him back on. I gave him a warning again,

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and then he blew it again, and then I banned

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him again. So that's how that went down up in Ashville.

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no need to, no need to complete the pile on here. Okay, well,

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just because I got other stuff I gotta get to,

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all right. So I mentioned earlier this appeal by the

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NPR supporters and PBS supporters that say we have to

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keep the taxpayer funding or else these rural communities will

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no longer have NPR, and that can be life or

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death in times of emergency, as if there are no

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other radio stations or TV stations for that matter. I mean,

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I don't know who goes to the PBS station in

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times of an emergency. Have you ever done that? Like,

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oh my gosh, there's a tornado coming, we need to

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turn on doctor who Like, No, you don't turn on

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turn on your local news station for that. And those

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are commercial broadcasts. You turn on your local radio station,

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right because that's local commercial and they've got people there

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versus like these NPR affiliates where there's virtually ever, if

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ever people in the building. You know, a lot of

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it's just automated, a lot of so a lot of

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them are just automated. That's not to say that the

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EAS alert doesn't go out on the NPR stations. They do,

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but they go out on every station, right so, and

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they go out on your phones. But that's that line

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of argument about the rural Americans needing this, and those

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Republicans are targeting rural Americans. See. I started thinking as

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I was seeing this obviously coordinated narrative take hold yesterday,

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because everybody was saying it, like everybody fell in line,

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Democrats and the CEO of NPR, they were all out

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there making the rounds, and they were all saying the

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same talking point about rural Americains.

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Speaker 2: And it.

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Speaker 1: Made me think, huh, are you guys saying this for

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some other reason? Because look, you surely must know that

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you got you know, Murkowski, you got Susan Collins of Maine,

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because of course you did. You got Mitch McConnell. But

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it's still passed, it's still got the votes in the Senate,

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so who are you making this argument for. Is this

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to actually prevent the cuts? Which, don't get me wrong,

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I fully believe they want the cuts to not happen.

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But if you know that, you don't control the House

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and the Senate and the presidency. And now it's past

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the House, or sorry, now it passed the Senate. So

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is there some other reason you're making this particular argument.

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chair of the North Carolina Democrat Party. She likes to curse,

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and she's from Person County, and so she says y'all

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a lot, and that's the way she intends to help

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win back these conservative, blue dog rural American Trump loving

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voters because she curses and she says y'all, y'all. And

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they've been doing a listening tour. Remember I've talked about this,

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pointing out that like they're trying to okay, not win

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these rural areas, but to just not lose as badly.

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the urban areas, they're trying not to lose as badly too. Okay,

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North Carolina. And then I was like, ah, now it

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makes sense. That's why these senators were cursing. They were

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dropping h bombs and d bombs like hades and darn right,

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stuff with the curse words. Why would they do that. Well,

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it's Breezy Andres and Clayton. I call her that because

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she's Her Twitter handle is a Breezy Clayton. So anyway,

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of their outreach effort to rural North Carolinians and rural Americans.

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and they're using Medicaid for this very same purpose. Right,

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the cuts to Medicaid, it's gonna hurt the rural hospitals,

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Where for you? Where for you? That's part of this strategy.

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liberal Joe Rogan. Democrats need to have a Joe Rogan,

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which is funny because they had Joe Rogan and then

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they Deep sixth Bernie Sanders' presidential aspirations twice, and that

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kind of hacked off Joe Rogan. And then they went

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so far to the left on the social stuff that

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even Joe Rogan was like, this is nuts. So they

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had Joe and then they went so far to the

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left they lost Joe. So now they need to find

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another Joe Rogan. So they have been talking about finding

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themselves a Joe Rogan and not you, Harry Sissons. Sit down,

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they're not talking about you. So who could be the

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next Joe Rogan? Well, I am pleased to tell you that.

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According to David Weigel at semaphore dot com, the search

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for a liberal Joe Rogan has led Democrats to Jamie Harrison. Yeah,

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you don't know who that guy is, Okay, Jamie Harrison

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is the former chairman of the National Democratic Party. That's

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who they He's gonna he's going to be able to

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speak to the to the young dudes, that's yeah. Jamie Harrison.

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He is going to launch a podcast called at Our Table.

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I don't even want to listen to this now. At

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our Table it's an interview show that he has been

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from the Road, where he frequently spends time with the

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parties Once and Future Stars, and he sat for an

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interview with David Weigel just before he had an interview

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lined up with Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer. Okay, he's already

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recorded a couple of episodes, because you want to have

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some in the can as they say, you want to

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have some ready to go when you launch, and so

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he's got a couple of them all racked up, ready

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: The first episodes will include such luminaries as Tim Walls Man. Oh,

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that's gonna be some podcast gold right there. Not sure

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how long these episodes are going to run, because that's

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one of the things about these long form podcasts. And

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when I say long form, I mean like Roganesque three hours,

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Sean Ryan he just did one, or he does them

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and his are like three to four hours. He just

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did one with Governor Gavin Newsome. It did not go

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well because here's the thing. When you sit for a

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long period of time beyond sound bites, your arguments have

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to stand up because as you have the conversations with

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somebody about a particular issue, if you do not have

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well formulated arguments or thoughts on a topic. It gets

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laid bare, it gets exposed over the time, and politicians

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are terrible at being able to maintain sort of the

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dance that they have to dance when they're doing just

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sound bites. You know, they can last five or ten minutes,

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but you keep them going for an hour with no commercials,

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two hours no commercials, it gets tougher. I don't know

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what kind of format Jamie is doing, but man, I'm

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looking forward to the full what hour two, three, four

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five with Tim Walls or Governor Wes Moore of Maryland,

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or James Clyburn from South Carolina, or Hunter Biden, that's

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one of the guests. I actually probably will watch that

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one because I'm just curious to know what Hunter Biden says.

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com article by David Weigel. He got an interview with

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the Democrats hope to be the next Joe Rogan and

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it is the former DNC chairman Jamie Harrison household name.

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So a lot of people are going to obviously flock

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to this podcast, but he had lined up a bunch

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of people. He did, He's already done a bunch of shows,

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and Wigel asked him first off how'd you do this?

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Where did the what was the germ of the ideas?

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What he asked, and Harrison says he's been thinking about

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doing it for a while. When I was DNC chair,

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I had this whole idea about a channel on YouTube

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called DTV Oh Spicy. I would anchor a podcast, and

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then we would have a number of other shows with

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Democrat elected officials and activists. The only thing we ended

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up doing was my DNC podcast called Welcome to the Party. Like,

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that's terrible. You're going to have a show with Democrat

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elected officials and activists. How does that not get turned

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into campaign ads against you guys, because you know, Republican

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oppo researchers are just going to sit there and watch it.

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Because there's the left can never go too far, and

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so you bring these people on, you get them comfortable,

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they start talking, and they're gonna say some crazy stuff. Anyway,

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very quickly, Harrison says, listen to this. He says, our

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folks said that we don't have the bandwidth to do that,

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so we abandoned the effort. But as we saw from

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the twenty twenty four elections, more and more people are

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getting their news from social media channels. This was something

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I knew that we needed, but we weren't able to

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do so. They so, the pooh bahs of the Democrat Party,

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they wouldn't let Jamie be Jamie. They would just they

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would not allow him to become an influencer. So they

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they he says at one point in this interview, that

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they put restrict plates on him or something like they

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did to Kamala Harris. Oh yeah, he says that there's

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he says, there's this hypersensitivity not to mess up in

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the Democrat Party. I saw this at the DNC sometimes,

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I would submit that's probably also the case over at

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the Republican Party as well. Nobody wants to mess up. Okay,

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he says, but you know he talks about Joe Biden.

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They didn't want to Joe Biden going out there and

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making his gaffs and such. Yeah, that was the reason.

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It was his gaffs. The guy was a gaff machine

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his entire career. It's not just the gafs. It was

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his mental decline anyway, he says. But Donald Trump gafs

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every time he opens his mouth, but he keeps going.

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It shows that he's real. The part that many of

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us loved about Joe Biden is that he's real. Joe's

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real too. Joe's reel too. That's the thing. Joe was

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a real jerk. Joe was always a jerk. You guys

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tried to make him into something that he wasn't, which

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was not a jerk. Okay, he says. But we democrats

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I love this. This the views that the people in

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both parties have of themselves versus the other party. They

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all say the same thing. They're like, oh, we're like

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herding cats. You know, we can't be governed. We're all

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over the place. We attack each other. Look at the

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other guy, the other team, the other party. They all

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fall in line. They're all in lockstep. Both parties say

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the same thing. And here's Harrison saying, we Democrats put

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ourselves in straight jackets and we sanitize every bleeping thing

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that comes out of our mouths. So what does come

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of that? So what does come out comes out without

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any soul. Republicans understand the power of emotion. It could

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be fear or it could be joy, but it's emotion

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and they use it. Oh all right, So here's something

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to keep in mind if Democrats want to win you

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got to do the more cursing, right, more cursing, more

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rural outreach, right, and apparently more podcasts and more emotion

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because when I think Democrats, I think lack of emotion. Right.

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Oh yeah, Democrats never never appeal to emotion. They need more.

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According to Harrison, he was asked, is there anybody you

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blame in the Kamala Harris campaign for her not doing

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more podcasts? And he said, we had. He says, I

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don't know who made that ultimate decision, but you know,

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for the first two weeks when she wasn't doing them,

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everybody was asking why isn't Kamala doing the interviews. Prior

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to that, she was knocking interviews out of the box, which,

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if I'm assuming this is a baseball metaphor, which I

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think would be true. She was knocking them out of

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the box. Barely they were, but they were getting out

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of the box. That would be the batter's box, right.

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She was knocking them out of the box, which would

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otherwise be known as a bunt or I guess it

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could be you know, a pop fly, It could be

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a ground out, a double play, whatever I think you

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meant to say. Out of the park, you're knocking them

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out of the park. Right, that's a home run, which

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we all know she was not doing, which is why

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they didn't want her doing the podcast. See here's the problem.

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This is the problem that Harrison's gonna have. You can't

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do podcasts or radio shows for that matter, and just

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gaslight people all the time. You can't. You can't just lie.

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The audience sniffs it out. And if maybe this is

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what your audience wants to hear, maybe they want to

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be gaslight at this point. But you're not going to

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think this is from Bob. I think yeah, Bob Wow.

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A new podcast Leaning Left already Sonny Beach. I don't

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know what Sunny Beach means, but uh sorry, I'm still

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trying to get I'm still learning this text line thing

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to try to bounce between the bounce between the messages

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from a nine to eight zero number. There are lots

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of left wing interview podcast al Harrison has demonstrated is

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his ability to direct DNC funding to himself. Yes, and

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here's a tweet at Pete Calender. It's funny that the

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left is choosing the guy that lost to Lindsey Graham

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to be there. Joe Rogan, Right, Yeah, I'm look, I

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don't It'll be fine for a smallish podcast. That's gonna

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be bigger than mine. But still it'll be fine. But

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it's not gonna be Joe Rogan. And that's the problem

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is it's like it's like, hey, Pete, we want you

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to post something on social media that goes viral. You don't.

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You can't control that stuff, right. Content is king or queen.

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I don't want to assign gender, but content is king.

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If you do good content, then people will find it.

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And if it's really good. You got a lot of

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people whatever. Joe Rogan built all of that empire over

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the course of years. So this idea that you're like,

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I'm gonna be the next Joe Rogan. Anybody who says

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that it's like giving yourself a nickname. You can't give

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yourself a nickname. You know, that's it just has to

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happen organically. I think. Let's see here he did. Dave

476
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Weigel did ask Jamie Harrison some of the highlights of

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the people that he's already spoken with, like Tim Walls

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and James Clyburn and Hunt Biden. So let me see

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this is from Hunter. He says, Well, I got a

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chance to get to know Hunter a lot of the

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last a lot over the last four years. I don't

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know if you remember, but back in the day when

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I was in the South Carolina Democrat Party chairman position,

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I had this little series called chair Chats. Oh my gosh,

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this guy these names are terrible. Chair chats where I

486
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would sit and talk to a chair in chaerchats. We

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talked about moving past caricatures, and in many ways, I

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think Hunter Biden has become a caricature in politics. A

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lot of people don't know how smart he is, don't

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know his background, don't know the stuff that he's worked on.

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They only know what either his allies or his enemies

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have put out there. And he's been defined by that. No, actually,

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I think it was defined. I think I think it

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was the whole laptop thing and all of the stuff

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that he put on the laptop, and then the book

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he wrote about it. I think that's really what defined

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him for a lot of people. He says, I thought

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it would be really interesting to pull back the curtain

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so that people got a chance to understand who he is. Okay,

500
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:13,400
so it's a softball interview, right that You're not going

501
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,599
to ask him anything about barisma, Right, You're not going

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to ask him these he's not going to ask him

503
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:24,359
about these tough topics. So when did you start sleeping

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with your your dead brother's widow? Like, when did you

505
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,079
do that start cheating on your wife with your dead

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brother's widow. You're going to ask him anything about that?

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Maybe maybe he does. I'm open to being proven wrong,

508
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but we shall see. Or well here, I guess because

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it's a podcast, I don't know if they've got video.

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So he goes on to say, uh, it's a really

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really interesting conversation. We had everything from laughter and joy

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to tears to anger to frustration. He's really selling this, man.

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I really want to I really want to watch this now.

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One thing that Hunter Biden said in this interview you

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may have seen this quote floating around, was that Democrats

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lost the election because we did not remain loyal to

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the leader of the party, which was his dad. That's

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the reason Democrats lost. No loyalty among you people. Okay,

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Harrison says, you'll hear some of my feedback about that,

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but I would say this for now, things may have

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been somewhat different had the loyalty that we saw Republicans

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have for Donald Trump. When Trump got convicted thirty four times,

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and you didn't hear a peep from the Republican Party.

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I would love to see a little more of that

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from Democrats. What did I just say? Right both parties.

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People in both parties view the other party as being

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more coordinated, more ruthless than they are. Like those other guys,

528
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,079
they really know how to run a party. Like look

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at this loyalty for Donald Trump. They all got loyalty

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for Trump, which I would submit that not outing Hunter's

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dad as in cognitive decline like that shows a pretty

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high degree of loyalty, don't you think I do. What

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else would you attribute that to? He says, Democrats are

534
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very quick man to take our knives out and go

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after our folks at the first sign of any problem.

536
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,279
Once again, Republicans say the same thing about themselves. They

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think Democrats close ranks and never let anybody go. They

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never stab anybody in the back. He says, I don't

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00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,519
think that's always in the best interest of the party.

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I heard this a lot on the campaign trail. That

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lack of loyalty, I think is part of the reason

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why you see some wavering within the base of our

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party because they don't feel as though the party will

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00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,000
stand up for them. Well, what did they do that

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makes people stab them in the back? Like, are they

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00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,160
protecting some invalid that's in the White House? Right? Once again,

547
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like all of this might sell in a country that

548
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,280
didn't just go through four years of the Biden presidency

549
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seeing what we saw, watching people close ranks around the

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00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,639
declining president, right, and then to be gaslit by you

551
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,320
people telling us that what I saw with my own

552
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,199
eyes was not what I was seeing with my own eyes.

553
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,239
So maybe these lamentations about lack of loyalty might play

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00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,119
better had we not just gone through the last four years.

555
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But I could be wrong. What do I know. I'm

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just a little old radio host. All right, that'll do

557
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,880
it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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563
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