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<v Speaker 1>You better watch out, You better not cry, you better

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<v Speaker 1>not put I'm telling you why why Santa Clauses coming

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<v Speaker 1>to time gather wrong. He's making a list, checking it twice.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to find out who's naughty and nuts. Sata

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<v Speaker 1>Clauses coming to time.

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<v Speaker 2>He sees you when you're sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows when you're away, he knows if you've been

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<v Speaker 1>bad or good.

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<v Speaker 3>So hey, hey, hi, how are you coming in? And

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<v Speaker 3>have a seat and let's talk on Cliff, your host

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<v Speaker 3>of Earth ancients.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're doing well. Today. We are covering a

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<v Speaker 2>topic that we haven't given enough time to and that

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<v Speaker 2>is strange Earth humans or the anomalies of Homo sapien sapient.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there other branches that are not being discussed. Are

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<v Speaker 2>there physical remains of beings who walk the planet that

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<v Speaker 2>are being covered up? And that's our topic today. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to cover a number of parts of the world

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<v Speaker 2>where humans are human like beings are being unearthed and

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<v Speaker 2>not really studied well. And there is a prevailing I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you could call it feeling of disinformation or cover up,

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<v Speaker 2>or just no interest in digging in and analyzing the

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<v Speaker 2>remains of unusual earth beings almost Sapien schampions. Years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was beginning to study the Maya, there were

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<v Speaker 2>a number of grave sites that had been discovered in

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<v Speaker 2>the northern Yucotan area, and when they were excavating some

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<v Speaker 2>of these grave sites, they were unveiling people with long heads,

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<v Speaker 2>elongated skulls, some that were not headbound, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>other anatomical strangeness that was being found in Mexican grave

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<v Speaker 2>sites that were just not explained today. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>most odd people in the world are the Parakis people

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<v Speaker 2>of Peru. And they're odd because they have much denser

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<v Speaker 2>bones than we do. They have what looks like another rib,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have no idea what their organs were like

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<v Speaker 2>what their brain capacity was, but we do know that

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<v Speaker 2>they had heads that were between fifteen and thirty percent

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<v Speaker 2>longer and also held greater brain mass. Now what does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean. That means that they had natural, occurring larger

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<v Speaker 2>heads than we had. And when you see one of

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<v Speaker 2>these skeletons, it's shocking. It's shocking because they are the

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<v Speaker 2>skulls are massive, but they're not headbound, because if they

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<v Speaker 2>were a headbound it would be the same amount of

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<v Speaker 2>brain matter. These individuals and we'll learn more about this today,

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<v Speaker 2>had very unusual bodies and skeletal remains. They're headset on

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<v Speaker 2>their body frame much different on the spinal cord, its

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<v Speaker 2>set differently. They likely had different organs than we do,

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<v Speaker 2>and they also are not in just practice. There's long

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<v Speaker 2>heads in Egypt, China, Mexico, and Malta, and these are

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<v Speaker 2>all places where there are ancient ruins. Now a number

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<v Speaker 2>of people are guessing that these are pre Deluvian people,

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<v Speaker 2>pre flood or asteroid hit, and so the estimate in

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<v Speaker 2>losses of life are in the tens of millions, if

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<v Speaker 2>not more. If this asteroid hit damaged the Earth to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where all but a few percent of humanity

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<v Speaker 2>was left alive, that means we may have lost not

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<v Speaker 2>only different animal species that we'll never see again, but

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<v Speaker 2>we may have lost countless cultures and civilizations unique to

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<v Speaker 2>our planet. Years ago, about oh, I would say five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, we had an author on who believed that

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<v Speaker 2>Earth's gravitational field was much different than it is now,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's because the Earth was further away from the Sun,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it came closer to the Sun, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it had different periods of Earth's history. But if gravity

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<v Speaker 2>is less than it is now, the ability for people

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<v Speaker 2>that have different physical features is enhanced. We know this

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<v Speaker 2>because the dinosaurs, and this is the theory of this

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman who had this ancient earth theory. The dinosaurs came

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<v Speaker 2>around because the Earth was not in the same geocentric

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<v Speaker 2>orbit around the Sun that it was that it is now,

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<v Speaker 2>and so animal life was bigger. Likely humans were bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>This may be the reason for giants, and there may

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<v Speaker 2>have been select hominin types. Human beings that were had

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<v Speaker 2>larger heads, had bigger bodies, had denser bones to hold

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<v Speaker 2>their great weight. So it still remains to be seen now.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the funny things about today's interview is that

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<v Speaker 2>the topic comes up of cover up. The topic comes

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<v Speaker 2>up of not wanting to know what was the previous

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<v Speaker 2>epoch about who were the previous people. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>how that can be, but when you go to natural

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<v Speaker 2>history museums you can see that there's a lot of editing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always tell people when you are in Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>or South America, check out the museums because you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see stuff that it would be off limits to

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<v Speaker 2>Western culture. Museums like the United States or Europe. That's

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a great deal of editing that's done. We're

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<v Speaker 2>only allowed to see certain things, the status quo, certain

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<v Speaker 2>types of animals, certain types of human remains. But again

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<v Speaker 2>the question comes for me is why are these practice

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<v Speaker 2>people with these amazing skulls and very unusual features not

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<v Speaker 2>studied with greater detail. It doesn't make any sense with

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<v Speaker 2>all the universities that we have out there, the study

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<v Speaker 2>of an unusual race of humans, it would really really

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<v Speaker 2>be of great fascination. So today's program is Strange Earth Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>And my guest today is Brian Forster. We're speaking to

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Forrester today, And if you're not familiar with his work,

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<v Speaker 2>he has been trekking the world and looking and reporting

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<v Speaker 2>on not only evidence of advanced technology in Peru, where

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<v Speaker 2>he's located, but also in Egypt, Mexico, all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's done an excellent job in twenty plus books

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<v Speaker 2>that he's written over the years on that topic. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fascinated in Brian's work with what I would call

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<v Speaker 2>a lost or a lost civilizations. These are Homo sapien

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<v Speaker 2>sapien branches or genesis groups of people that have come

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<v Speaker 2>and gone and we don't know how old they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And the great thing about Brian's work is that he

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<v Speaker 2>has actually taking a good stab at this and documented

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<v Speaker 2>not only the Parakas people who are very strange and

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<v Speaker 2>atomically based in Peru, but also groups in Europe and

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico and has been documenting this work for a

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<v Speaker 2>number of years. So we're going to talk about that today.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I'm bringing this up is that we have

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<v Speaker 2>great evidence for advanced technology, advanced science, perhaps advanced physics,

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<v Speaker 2>but who is behind this? And again another question Brian

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<v Speaker 2>brings up is are these pre Deiluvion? Are these people

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<v Speaker 2>that are so old we don't know about them because

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<v Speaker 2>they were destroyed in the Great Catechism catechism that people

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<v Speaker 2>like Graham Hancock and others describe. So Brian, welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>Earth Ancient's great to have you on the program to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about your work. You have been

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus a couple of decades worth of research working with

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<v Speaker 2>the dynastic Egyptian area. You've been doing tours in Egypt

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<v Speaker 2>and in Peru, and you write in your bio that

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<v Speaker 2>you initially got interested in this on a trip to

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Cusco and these huge cyclopic megalithic walls, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of like a starting play. Talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about your interest.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, Actually the first state that I was sant Custo,

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<v Speaker 4>where I lived actually for five years. I noticed it there.

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<v Speaker 4>I hired a local guide and he showed me around

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<v Speaker 4>and we looked at simple stone structures and then these

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<v Speaker 4>megalithic structures and I said, who did all of that?

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, the INCA did all of it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I said, that's impossible. You know, the megalithic work, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't fit a human hair in the joints. They're talking

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<v Speaker 4>huge stones in terms of construction, different styles. Really piqued

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<v Speaker 4>my interest, and then I looked up in the standard

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<v Speaker 4>academic papers about it, and all of the academics and

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<v Speaker 4>archaeologists insists that the megaalitic work was also done by

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<v Speaker 4>the income and it's like they had copper choosel you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's ridiculous. So my tension just became more and more

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<v Speaker 4>drawn to Peru, and eventually, about fifteen years ago, I

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<v Speaker 4>moved there in order to pursue this fascinating subject.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, now you took it one step beyond just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the evidence of what looks like advanced science technology,

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<v Speaker 2>you began studying the actual people. And when did you

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<v Speaker 2>come across the skeletal remains of the practice people, Because

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<v Speaker 2>this is really what your concentration has been, and I

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to focus a little bit on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was about I would guess thirteen or so

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. I walked into a little museum in the

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<v Speaker 4>little town of Caracas and saw these enormous elongated skulls

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<v Speaker 4>and became great friends with the director of the museum.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, the cranial volume in some cases is

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<v Speaker 4>thirty percent larger than almost sapient sapien. So I thought, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>something very strange is going on here. And through the

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<v Speaker 4>years I've been able to document hundreds of these skulls.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been able to see a few mummies as well,

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<v Speaker 4>including unborn babies at eight months old in utero that

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<v Speaker 4>had elongated heads. And you know, it is a fascinating

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<v Speaker 4>subject that few people have pursued as heavily as I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have documented it and written a number of

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<v Speaker 2>books and papers and had YouTube channel videos on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why isn't this subject more of interest to scientists universities,

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<v Speaker 2>because if this is a branch of human that we're

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with, we should be all over this.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's actually being blocked by academics. We did

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<v Speaker 4>some initial DNA testing of I think twenty three elongated skulls,

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<v Speaker 4>and the results did not satisfy the archaeologists we were

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<v Speaker 4>working with. He said, you must have contaminated every sample

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<v Speaker 4>because he expected and the DNA in the matriarch or

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<v Speaker 4>in the female DNA that we were analyzing, and it

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<v Speaker 4>turned out not to be like in twenty one cases.

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<v Speaker 4>It was more akin to elongated skulls found in Eurasia,

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<v Speaker 4>especially around the Black Sea. So immediately he said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you must have contaminated the DNA and you're not allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to do any more testing. That's weird, Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you find in the DNA? Did you find

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<v Speaker 2>that there were branches from I mean, because this is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously in peruge Is in South America. Did you find

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<v Speaker 2>that there were links to other parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a was it a breakdown of known DNA

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<v Speaker 2>and then some really unusual DNA? What did you where

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<v Speaker 2>did you find in your testing?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the only other really big elongated skulls that I've

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<v Speaker 4>been able to find existed around the Black Sea and

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<v Speaker 4>Casidian Sea area about at the same time as the practice.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the DNA that we got from the Parractice

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<v Speaker 4>female DNA matched exactly the haplogroups that we find in

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<v Speaker 4>and around the Black Sea and Castid and Sea area,

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<v Speaker 4>so there must be a connection. Again, only two samples

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<v Speaker 4>showed and Indian DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>And the rest of it was European, Eurasian, Eurasian. Fascinating. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's funny because about I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>ten years ago, I ran across an article written by

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<v Speaker 2>a pathologist who had studied a cranium from UH parractice,

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<v Speaker 2>and he came to the same conclusion without really cutting

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<v Speaker 2>the head up. He believed that this sample of this

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<v Speaker 2>individual was had a brain capacity between fifteen and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent greater than our own, and he was curious as

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<v Speaker 2>to where they came from. But I'd like you to

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<v Speaker 2>describe a little bit the anatomical differences between Homo sapien

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<v Speaker 2>sapient craniums and what makes UH the praractice cranium so unusual.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the main ones is the lack of

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<v Speaker 4>the sagital suture, which with the future that goes from

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<v Speaker 4>the front of your forehead down all the way to

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<v Speaker 4>the back of your head. It's completely missing in the

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<v Speaker 4>oldest examples, which no doctor so far has been able

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<v Speaker 4>to satisfactorily explain. Also, the eye sockets are larger than

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<v Speaker 4>normal by about thirty percent, the jaw is much more

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<v Speaker 2>So were these a large people of small people? When

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<v Speaker 2>you observe a number of their remains? What is the

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<v Speaker 4>Between five foot nine and sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so they're not small at all. They're actually yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually tall. What would you say? You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny because when I read your work, I'm always interested

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<v Speaker 2>in where are their cities, where are their ruins? We

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<v Speaker 2>don't really show major practice ruins or are their ruins.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are three or four locations in the practice

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<v Speaker 4>area that have not been well excavated, but the evidence

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<v Speaker 4>suggests that they lived underground.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeesuz really.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that they literally built their houses underground, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for distance you could still see the outline of the

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<v Speaker 4>city foundation, was probably about a thousand people. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>Does it feel to you that they may have migrated

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<v Speaker 4>I think they operated from the Black Sea Council in

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<v Speaker 2>So they were maybe what they decided to do some

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<v Speaker 2>exploration and that's how they migrated. Or did they migrate

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<v Speaker 2>because they were kicked out of the Casmian area.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they were probably chased out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's funny because you also worked with the Maria Wheatley.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Maria on the program and she wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>book about the Stonehenge and some of the skeletory remains

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<v Speaker 2>that she found there and those are smaller people with

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<v Speaker 2>elongated heads, but they were actually killed by the locals.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it the belief that you have possibly that

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<v Speaker 2>these long heads were treated as pariah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so. I think it's a standard you know,

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<v Speaker 4>story through history on every continent of an invading force

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<v Speaker 4>coming in and forcing up the indigenous population rather than

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<v Speaker 4>mixing in with them and absorbing them. So I honestly

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<v Speaker 4>think that's what happened. There's a migration that happened probably

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<v Speaker 4>around one thousand BC.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's old, but not seriously old. In your

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<v Speaker 2>book on Catastrophic Events, do you think that these long

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<v Speaker 2>heads are part of an earlier civilization that was worldwide?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we honestly don't know as far as as far

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<v Speaker 4>as we can tell. The along you get head to

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<v Speaker 4>people go back to about one thousand eight or one

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<v Speaker 4>thousand BC. But farther back than that, we honestly don't

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<v Speaker 4>know because there's been so little, there's been very little

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<v Speaker 4>carbon fourteen testing of the stulls.

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<v Speaker 2>What you got feeling on that? Why would they not

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<v Speaker 2>be interested in these wonderful skeletal remains that are so unusual.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they don't want the paradigm shifted. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the evidence is mounting. You know, some of the work

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been done by me, but I think it's like

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<v Speaker 4>the same thing with the megalithic structures. Each aptologists and

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<v Speaker 4>other academics simply will not entertain the idea that there

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<v Speaker 4>was advanced technology before the time of the Pharaoh or

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<v Speaker 4>the Inca, et cetera. But luckily that's starting to crumble now.

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<v Speaker 4>The younger academics are much more open minded, probably because

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<v Speaker 4>of the existence of YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. What do we know? What do we suspect

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<v Speaker 2>is their cultural development? Are they, would you say, scientifically advanced?

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<v Speaker 2>You have books and papers on stone cutting, on tubular

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<v Speaker 2>drills and advance stone masonry techniques. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>the practice and perhaps these other long hands were from

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<v Speaker 2>or the descent is from a very advanced culture.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. The practice seemed to have been

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<v Speaker 4>more than anything of Stone Age culture because the artifacts

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<v Speaker 4>that we find, you find the odd gold and silver artifact,

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<v Speaker 4>but it seems that stone tools were mainly what they utilized.

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<v Speaker 4>So they were definitely not responsible for any of the

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<v Speaker 4>megalithic construction as far as I can tell. They were

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<v Speaker 4>great at agriculture and fishing and seafaring and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. In the book that you wrote with David Patrick Childress,

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<v Speaker 2>The Enigma of Cranial Deformation, you believe that and actually

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<v Speaker 2>show that these long heads are found in Egypt, South America, Mexico, Malta,

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<v Speaker 2>and in China. Now are they all as long as

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<v Speaker 2>the practice people or are they just they just have

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<v Speaker 2>longer heads than we currently have.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, almost all of those examples of the result of

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<v Speaker 4>cranial deformation are headbinding. The practice of the only ones

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<v Speaker 4>and the ones in Eurasia are the evidence that they

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<v Speaker 4>were born naturally with elongated heads. So, and as we

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<v Speaker 4>discuss larger cranial volume than normal, which you can't do

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<v Speaker 4>with deformation. You can't change the volume of a skull,

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<v Speaker 4>So that's genetics.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we have these elongated heads, why were people

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<v Speaker 2>binding their heads following perhaps that phase in human history?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it because they wanted to replicate those craniums or

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<v Speaker 2>was it something else?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was to try to replicate, replicate, or

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<v Speaker 4>copy living beings that existed in their ancestry. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>the case that we find with the practice. As the

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<v Speaker 4>practice began to mix in with the later Nasca culture,

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<v Speaker 4>because the Nasca people look normal, so over the generations,

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<v Speaker 4>the skulls began to shrink in size, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's why they decided to start binding the skulls

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<v Speaker 4>in order to replicate the look of what the ancestors

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a couple of people on the program who

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<v Speaker 2>believe that this skull difformation was done so the pituitary

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<v Speaker 2>at the pituitary, the pineal gland could be enhanced in

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<v Speaker 2>some way. And the belief is that these elongheaded people

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<v Speaker 2>who had natural skull skull that size, had more of

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<v Speaker 2>a psychic awareness or enhance perception cognitive perception because of

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<v Speaker 2>their brains. What do you say to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with that because we see a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of examples of trepanation amongst the Paractis people, and quite

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<v Speaker 4>often it appears to be in the front or the

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<v Speaker 4>back of the skull. If it was the result of warfare,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a tendency for the trepanation or brain surgery

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<v Speaker 4>to happen on the side of the skull because you

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<v Speaker 4>naturally try to whack someone on the side of their

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<v Speaker 4>head rather than in the front of the back. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think there is evidence that ancient surgery was being

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<v Speaker 4>performed by the Parakis people in order to trigger the

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<v Speaker 4>pineal gland to release ancient ancestral powers that were probably

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<v Speaker 2>And that brings me to another subject, Brian, is it

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<v Speaker 2>is it? Are we not looking close enough at the

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<v Speaker 2>brains of these guys, these practice people and these other

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<v Speaker 2>cultures that had long heads. Perhaps they were working on

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<v Speaker 2>a different level than we are currently. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all consumed about making a buck and you know, living

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<v Speaker 2>in a lifestyle. Perhaps they were more spiritual in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they were working with earth energies to lurk fields

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that that we don't understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so. Also, there's no evidence of weaponry

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<v Speaker 4>amongst the practice that I've been able to find, So

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<v Speaker 4>they seem to have been a very peaceful, highly intellectual,

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<v Speaker 4>highly spiritual people who again, when the invasion of the

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<v Speaker 4>Nasca people appeared around one hundred BC to one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>d D, they were slaughtered wholesale.

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<v Speaker 2>Really wow, do we have any go ahead?

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<v Speaker 4>We found a mass grave the dates from about one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred d D. Excuse me, where about fifty individuals were

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<v Speaker 4>literally dump in a in a pit and rapidly buried,

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<v Speaker 4>not in a graceful or respectful manner. See you know,

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<v Speaker 4>bone swing over to the left, to the right. Almost

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<v Speaker 4>all of the stalls showed major trauma to the head.

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<v Speaker 2>M has anyone been able to get a complete practice

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<v Speaker 2>brain to study?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, No, the brains tended to be removed during

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<v Speaker 4>before burial. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Really m hmm, that's fascinating. What do we have in

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<v Speaker 2>the form of literature or writing. Is there a language

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<v Speaker 2>or a alphabet or something written from the practice people?

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<v Speaker 4>No, nothing at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating, isn't it? Nothing at all? Is it because

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<v Speaker 2>you think it's been buried or tossed aside, or the

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<v Speaker 2>remaining people were kind of regressed from the originals.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was a regression. I don't think they've

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<v Speaker 4>developed like a hieroglyphic or glyphic system. It was all

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<v Speaker 4>likely oral tradition being passed down.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, you've been on ancient aliens a number of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any feeling that these are off world

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<v Speaker 2>hybrids of some kind?

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<v Speaker 4>I entertained the idea because again, they they suddenly appear

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<v Speaker 4>around one thousand BC and disappear around one That's it's

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<v Speaker 4>too short a time for evolution. So it's believed or

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<v Speaker 4>I'm open to the possibility that they actually did come

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<v Speaker 4>from somewhere else a planet, arrived and then bred with

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<v Speaker 4>local hominids.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 2>with my guest today, Brian Forster discussing strange Earth humans.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. My guess is Brian Forster, who's

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<v Speaker 2>written over twenty books on advanced machining in different parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the world and also unusual humans, most notably practice

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<v Speaker 2>the practice people of Peru. You can see a small

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<v Speaker 2>gallery of these unusual people on the Facebook page. Go

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<v Speaker 2>to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients and there'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>gallery of some of the most unusual skeletal remains ever discovered.

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<v Speaker 2>So they came to Europe and then migrated to Parracice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where you're finding them. Is that what your

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<v Speaker 2>suggestion is?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Okay, how do how do the Paractice people compare

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<v Speaker 2>to the long heads that Maria Wheatley discovered in the

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<v Speaker 2>Stonehenge area.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, as far as I can tell, what Maria found

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<v Speaker 4>again were examples of headbinding, our cranial deformation, so a

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<v Speaker 4>not overly large skull in proportion to the body. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's what makes the Paractice quite unique. As far as

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought that that the queen that she found in that

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<v Speaker 2>one long burrow was a natural cranium, is it? So

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying that it was it was headbound?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, actually that I don't know. I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 4>to get a copy of her book yet. So whatever

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<v Speaker 4>Maria says, I believe because she is a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a very good researcher and scholar, So if that's what

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<v Speaker 4>she says, But I'm yeah, I'm still waiting to get

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<v Speaker 4>a copy of the book to be able to actually

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<v Speaker 4>look at the diagrams of the skulls that have been found.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the first researcher, Brian that has somewhat speculated that

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<v Speaker 2>there could be off world genetics involved with these practice people,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're so unusual looking. Where else in the world

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<v Speaker 2>do we have examples of heads that are as big

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<v Speaker 2>as the parractice people. I mean, I haven't seen them,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe you can reference a few other locations.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, only around the Black Sea and Cassidy and Sea area,

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<v Speaker 4>also in Crimea. So if you look up, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can look up on a search Anngine Russian elongated

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<v Speaker 4>skulls or Crimean elongated skulls and you'll find some very

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<v Speaker 4>good recent examples in the last five years that have

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<v Speaker 4>been found, especially in Crimea for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And are there burials unusual or are they just like

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else locally? Is there anything unique about these long

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<v Speaker 2>heads in Crimea and Eastern Europe, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>They seem to be people of royal lineage, and the

426
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<v Speaker 4>same thing in that with the practice. I know they

427
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<v Speaker 4>recently found the burial of a young child about two

428
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<v Speaker 4>years old, and the head is enormously large, so that's

429
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<v Speaker 4>a good one to look out.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of speculation that the pharaoh Akinaaten and

431
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<v Speaker 2>his daughters, who are portrayed as very long headed beings,

432
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<v Speaker 2>were offshoots of long headed races. What do you say

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I know the depictions are his daughters, like the

435
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:01.519
<v Speaker 4>sculptors especially, are very anatomically fascinating. I would think that

436
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 4>whoever the artisan was who made the stone bus would

437
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<v Speaker 4>have to have had an example to refer to Arconaunton.

438
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't believe was particularly odd looking, but his daughter's

439
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 4>definitely are portrayed as having like long skulls sweeping backwards,

440
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 4>not vertical like the practice. But I just wish, you know,

441
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 4>I had access to a larger collection of artifacts in

442
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 4>Egypt to be able to see actual examples of some

443
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 4>of the older skulls that they have in their collection.

444
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<v Speaker 4>But as far as I know, nothing's been put on display,

445
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 4>not even in the new Grand Egyptian Museum but just

446
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<v Speaker 4>opened up recently.

447
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>And you suspect that this is a kind of a

448
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<v Speaker 2>worldwide epidemic of reducing our knowledge or hiding this data

449
00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 2>simply because it brings up questions about the previous epoch. Oh, definitely,

450
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<v Speaker 2>And why what's the big deal, Brian? Why why why

451
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>don't we why can't we learn about these things?

452
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Well? As I As I said, the younger academics are

453
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 4>much more open minded to it. I think over the

454
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 4>course of time, a lot of so called out of

455
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<v Speaker 4>place artifacts will wind up being put on display in

456
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 4>museums because they can't hide the evidence forever.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. And I mean speculate why there is an issue?

458
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would I would think they would want

459
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.039
<v Speaker 2>to know that the previous civilization perhaps had their own physics,

460
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 2>had their own science, and this is why we see

461
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 2>so many archaeological anomalies in the ancient parts of the world.

462
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess it's the old story of a student

463
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 4>learns from his professor, become becomes a professor, teaches the

464
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<v Speaker 4>same information to the students, and it goes on and

465
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<v Speaker 4>on and on like that. At least that's been the

466
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 4>history of this. But as more and more strange artifacts

467
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 4>and body parts starts showing up, it can't be kept

468
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<v Speaker 4>hidden forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have you been able to get a complete skeleton

470
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>of a praatis person? And I think at some point

471
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<v Speaker 2>I read that not only did you do DNA, but

472
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 2>did you have a group come down and actually get

473
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<v Speaker 2>permission from the government to do some kind of an

474
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<v Speaker 2>analysis or pathological analysis of a practice body.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been trying to actually La Marzouli, who has been

477
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<v Speaker 4>very a very big part of all of this study.

478
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<v Speaker 4>And about five years ago, he and I and his

479
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 4>cameraman we're given access to a private museum and La

480
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 4>and his cameraman immediately focused on this display case of

481
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 4>elongated skulls. And then I looked to the left and

482
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 4>I said to it, here's a mummy, and they're on

483
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 4>display was a complete adult Bracas mummy. We tried to

484
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 4>ask permission to take DNA samples and we're told no,

485
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 4>we're not allowed to because a group from Harvard is analyzing,

486
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 4>they have exclusive access. But I'm hoping in the near

487
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 4>future that I'll be able to go back to that

488
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 4>little private museum and get access to the mummy, to

489
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 4>be able to photograph and film properly. I was a

490
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of three photographs and that was it. Then we

491
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 4>were told we had to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Describe the mummy. Was it was it like an Egyptian

493
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>mummy or was it just wrapped up and it had

494
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<v Speaker 2>the covering of this longated head.

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00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 4>Actually it was mainly or largely uncovered, so I could

496
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<v Speaker 4>see all the skin. I could see the head, I

497
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 4>could see the neck, I could see the shape of

498
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 4>the elongated skull. It was you know, probably an individual

499
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 4>in his or her twenties or thirties. I was just

500
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 4>I was so shocked to be able to see that.

501
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 4>But as I say, up till now, we've not been

502
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 4>able to get access to it to be able to

503
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 4>do proper photography, filmmaking, or forensic analysis.

504
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Talk about your associate, Go ahead, I'm sorry.

505
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 4>But the door may open for that door may open.

506
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<v Speaker 2>It excellent. Talk about your association with this practice museum.

507
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I've seen pictures of you holding these monstrosities of head.

508
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Some of them are red hair. What's the red hair

509
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 2>all about?

510
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 4>Well, the red hair is genetic, definitely. Some people say

511
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 4>that they were dyed or tinted or something, but I've

512
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 4>seen at least thirty or four examples of caracas, elongated heads,

513
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 4>mummified heads with this dark auburn red hair, and it

514
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 4>definitely appears to be natural, not some kind of tinting

515
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 4>or dying or bleaching.

516
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 2>And is there an association with other people that have

517
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 2>red hair? Is that give? Is that a clue for

518
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 2>some group of other people?

519
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Again, I think Eurasia, Eurasia, Okay, yeah, because people

520
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 4>mistakenly think that red hair comes from Scotland or Ireland,

521
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 4>but it's much more ancient than that. It goes back

522
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 4>to the Middle East center to the Eurasia area.

523
00:38:56.320 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 2>How many skulls are in that little museum that you're like,

524
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 2>it's like a solid glass building, but obviously you're showing

525
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 2>the encasements for these calls, But how many skulls are

526
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>in that collection?

527
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, unfortunately the museum closed just before COVID.

528
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so it's not open anymore.

529
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 4>So then the directive guide, possibly due to COVID. He

530
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.320
<v Speaker 4>was in his early eighties, and so his uh, his

531
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 4>children still have the collection of artifacts, but they're stored

532
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 4>in boxes in their houses. They're no longer on public display.

533
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, are there any museums in Peru or

534
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>any place in South America like Bolivia that have mummies

535
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.760
<v Speaker 2>or any remains of practice individuals.

536
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Well or related people. There's a tiny museum on Lake

537
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Chiticaka in Beligia that I've been to a few times,

538
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 4>and there is an looks like about a one and

539
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:06.679
<v Speaker 4>a half year old child that has an enormously elongated head.

540
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't allowed to photograph it until I bribed the

541
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 4>man who unlocked the door. Also there's a little music,

542
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 4>a tiny music. This is all in private museum, not

543
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 4>in public museums. But there's another museum of a little

544
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 4>village called Pata Patani, and I've had access to that

545
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 4>one twice, and there is a I took doctor or a

546
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:38.239
<v Speaker 4>physician with me both times, and there's a twelve to

547
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 4>thirteen year old female with an enormous elongated skull, probably

548
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 4>one and a half times normal. And then right next

549
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 4>to it is a eight month old fetus with a

550
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 4>spell the size of its torso oh. Both both doctors

551
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 4>believe that they were mother and baby who died during childbirth.

552
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, it's amazing. So are these other beings that

553
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 2>are being found in other parts of South America? Are

554
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>they all related to Paracas people or is there another

555
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 2>group that is as odd is the Parakice people that

556
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 2>are in that area.

557
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 4>I think there are probably other groups. So I don't

558
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:31.320
<v Speaker 4>think the Paractice migrated as far as Bolivia. They ventured

559
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 4>into the highlands of Peru as far as Cusco, but

560
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 4>they never as far as I can tell mat To

561
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.559
<v Speaker 4>to late Tittikaka, So we may be looking at different

562
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 4>branches of or subspeeches of Homo sapiens that existed probably

563
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 4>around the same time. There's also a little mummy in

564
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 4>a museum in the highlands of Peru called The mummy

565
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 4>is called Waiki and it's a It's a strange specimen.

566
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 4>It looks like a two year old, but I've taken

567
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 4>many doctors and dentists to look at it and they

568
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:11.960
<v Speaker 4>say the dentisian is that of a seven or eight

569
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 4>year old. So it's a very anomalous little being.

570
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>M hm. I have seen pictures at the turn of

571
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>the century of some of these mound builders in the

572
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>United States, and there are not only are they tall,

573
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of them have elongated skulls. Have you

574
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 2>done any kind of research with any of those reports.

575
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 4>No, I haven't. I focus on the parts of the world,

576
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 4>mainly Peru and Belivia, but also each of in some

577
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 4>other places. But I don't like to study too many

578
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 4>different facets of this because then I think the information

579
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 4>starts to get diluted down.

580
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Tell us about the Sigma of cranial deformation with David Childress,

581
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 2>how your Childress? What was the feeling on that one.

582
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, David is writing about all kinds of unusual

583
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>things constantly. That's just what his career has been. But

584
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>what was the motivation to get together and write that book?

585
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Because that's a I mean, the cover is a paraka's head.

586
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 4>True. Well, actually I approached David and told him this

587
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 4>is more than ten years ago. I told him, but

588
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking of writing a book about elongated skulls,

589
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 4>and he said immediately, why don't we write it together?

590
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 4>And I thought, well, that's you know, that's right. He's

591
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.719
<v Speaker 4>a very famous auficer. So I was very honored to

592
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 4>be able to co write that book with him.

593
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what was the I mean I mentioned this before.

594
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 2>It covers Egypt, South America, Mexico, and Malta. What is

595
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 2>going on with Malta? I mean, I don't think I've

596
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 2>seen the elongated skulls. There is there burials that are

597
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>filled with these kinds of individuals or is it just

598
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 2>a few?

599
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 4>No, they supposedly found between three hundred and three thousand

600
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 4>of them in a very large tomb on the island

601
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 4>of Malta, and in the nineteen fifties, I believe they

602
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.480
<v Speaker 4>were all taken office The ones that were on display

603
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 4>were taken office play and they haven't seen since. So again,

604
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 4>it's another example of a governmental cover up of something

605
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 4>anomalous that they don't want anyone to know about.

606
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I always tell people, because I travel and do

607
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>tours in Mexico a lot, that you'll never see many

608
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>of the items in the Mexican museums in the United States.

609
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.440
<v Speaker 2>It just would be edited off because there's no explanation

610
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>for which is kind of sad. I mean, you're saying

611
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that the powers it'd be don't want to come up

612
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>with an explanation for why there's a branch of humans

613
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 2>that have these heads. Are you speculating in your research

614
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of these advanced stonemasonry is attributed to parractice,

615
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 2>which could be pre pre Inca.

616
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 4>I guess, well, definitely pre Inca, but I don't think

617
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:28.199
<v Speaker 4>the practice. You know again, but the polygonal megalithic works

618
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 4>are a complete mystery to everybody, and the idea that

619
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.880
<v Speaker 4>they were made by the Inca is completely imbecilic.

620
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 2>But they don't listen to that. I guess it's like,

621
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, our belief is the Inca early Inca were

622
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 2>advanced stonemasonry masons.

623
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<v Speaker 4>I guess, well, they try to say that, but again

624
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 4>in the archaeological record, all we find are bronze tools.

625
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Bronze is far too soft to be able to say,

626
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 4>excuse me as something as hard as the salt or branite.

627
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 4>So clearly advanced technology was involved in the construction of

628
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.199
<v Speaker 4>the magarthic works, both in Egypt and in Peru, and

629
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 4>in Lebanon and Turkey in different countries.

630
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Egypt for a bit. You have a

631
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:28.360
<v Speaker 2>number of books on advanced machinery or machining in Egypt,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you suspect were the inventors of the tools

633
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<v Speaker 2>that make those boreholes and cut stone and perhaps even

634
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<v Speaker 2>built the Great Pyramids?

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<v Speaker 4>Well again, another great mystery. But I'm not close to

636
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<v Speaker 4>the idea there was aliens or extraterrestrials who came constructed,

637
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<v Speaker 4>were damaged or destroyed, or had to flee due to

638
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<v Speaker 4>the young of characterisms during the Younger Dryest. But I

639
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<v Speaker 4>can't think of a human civilization that could achieve that

640
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<v Speaker 4>kind of work. You know, people keep saying Atlantis, and

641
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 4>they know what evidence of it really of Atlantis. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm open to the idea that other beings have come here,

643
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<v Speaker 4>either to work with us or just independently doing what

644
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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to do and then left.

645
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<v Speaker 2>So are we hybreds?

646
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<v Speaker 4>Some people think, so that's true. Yeah, there are some

647
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 4>very anomalous things about about us that make us, you know,

648
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<v Speaker 4>possibly not part of standard evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Talk a bit about the technology that that

650
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<v Speaker 2>you're writing about. When you when we see these uh uh,

651
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<v Speaker 2>these megalithic stones, like you've been to the quarries as

652
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<v Speaker 2>one quarreys and seeing these uh, the un excavated obelisk there,

653
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<v Speaker 2>what's the tech that's doing that, Who's who's creating these

654
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<v Speaker 2>scoop tools, and what's what's the technology you suspect behind that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's kind of an energetic disruptor of some kind.

656
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think there were tools that actually came in

657
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<v Speaker 4>physical contact with the stone, such as what the unfinished oblist,

658
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 4>but it's almost like a sand blasting technique, but on

659
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<v Speaker 4>a much more advanced scale. I think whatever machine it

660
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 4>is they had was capable of disrupting possibly the quartz

661
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:43.920
<v Speaker 4>inside of the stone, causing it to cause like micro explosions,

662
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 4>and so the stone turns the sand and simply falls

663
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<v Speaker 4>down into the into the trenches.

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<v Speaker 2>And they they would use that in a way to

665
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<v Speaker 2>extract the stone, and then I guess they use other

666
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:00.960
<v Speaker 2>technology to smooth it. I've seen I'm sure you have

667
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 2>too evidence up close and personal of these obelisks, and

668
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:10.800
<v Speaker 2>they're cut with a high level of precision that copper

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<v Speaker 2>stone tools could never cut.

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<v Speaker 4>No, definitely, you're talking at least on the level of

671
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<v Speaker 4>a diamond technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to take a short commercial break to

673
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<v Speaker 2>allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will returned

674
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<v Speaker 2>shortly with my guest today author, research investigator Brian Forster

675
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>coming to us from Peru. We'll be right back. I

676
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.079
<v Speaker 2>will got this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I looked outside my window with children lighting up the

678
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<v Speaker 5>Christmas tree and the snow is falling. It reminds me

679
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<v Speaker 5>of how the good times, those winters we would spend

680
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 5>just you and me. It's spend such a long time.

681
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<v Speaker 5>It's Christmas Day.

682
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 2>My guest today is Brian Forrester. He is a research

683
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<v Speaker 2>investigator and an author. He's written over twenty books and

684
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<v Speaker 2>he's spoken on topics including advanced machinery and ancient Egypt

685
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 2>and in Peru. He's also made a study of unusual

686
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 2>humans around the world. What do you think the pyramids were?

687
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've been to the Red Pyramid, the Bent Pyramid,

688
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<v Speaker 2>the Cufu Pyramid. What do you think the pyramids were

689
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<v Speaker 2>used for?

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<v Speaker 4>I think they were energetic structures, just like what Christopher

691
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<v Speaker 4>Dunn talks about. They were able to somehow collect energy,

692
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<v Speaker 4>and then I think the function of the obelisk was

693
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<v Speaker 4>that they were receptives of energy. So the energy would

694
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<v Speaker 4>go from the pyramids out to the obelisk, caused them

695
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<v Speaker 4>to vibrate and set up like a mini force field.

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<v Speaker 4>In the vicinity of the obelisk. Because the obilists were

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<v Speaker 4>always organized very specifically. They weren't in random locations like

698
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<v Speaker 4>at Karnak. They were definitely lined up in rows going

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<v Speaker 4>from the front to the back of the oldest part

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<v Speaker 4>of Karna. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that from another number of people who lived there.

702
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<v Speaker 2>So you think that there's probably an acoustic technology that

703
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:54.559
<v Speaker 2>we're not aware of, or it's kind of designed into

704
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the structure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a kind of vibratory technology.

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00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Mmm. I've always heard that Hathor at Dendera was a

707
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 2>healing temple that it sits on some kind of a

708
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>lay line and energetic lay line. What's your feeling on

709
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>temples in Egypt being placed over tulluric fields.

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00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think definitely, Especially again when we look at

711
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:24.239
<v Speaker 4>the megalithic stuff, which is pre dynastic, they are in

712
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 4>very specific locations. They're not, you know, in like a

713
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 4>random kind of organization, very specifically set up most likely

714
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 4>on energetic lines. And the same thing in Peru. There's

715
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.000
<v Speaker 4>actually all of the megalithic structures in Peru are actually

716
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 4>lined up on what's called the path of Viracocha that

717
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 4>goes from the northwest to the southeast, so machic Picchu,

718
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 4>only tatambosas of Woman are all lined up on this

719
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 4>one specific energetic line that doesn't really function like a

720
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<v Speaker 4>u to, but at one time it would have been

721
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 4>definitely a line of focused energy.

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00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I've heard people who are at Sexy Woman that there

723
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>are places you can stand and actually feel like some

724
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 2>form of vibrating energy.

725
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Have you experienced that, not at Suksa Waman, but at

726
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.920
<v Speaker 4>other ancient locations in Peru? Definitely. There's one site called

727
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Chadvin de Wantar where there's a circular ceremonial space in

728
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.000
<v Speaker 4>front of the two ancient pyramids, and if you stand

729
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 4>right in the middle of that and raise your hands

730
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 4>up into the air, your fingers start to vibrate.

731
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<v Speaker 2>So it's passing up through your body and exiting through

732
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 2>the fingers, is what you're suggesting. Wow, is there any

733
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 2>place and Peru or neighboring countries that have buildings that

734
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 2>have subtle energy working through them and are used for

735
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>either healing or cognition or whatever.

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00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:20.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't think anymore, because we do see a lot

737
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:25.800
<v Speaker 4>of catacismic damage at all of the sites. So I

738
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<v Speaker 4>don't think they've I don't think they function like they did, say,

739
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 4>thirteen thousand plus years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean you've heard of Hesus Gamara's father's three

741
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 2>world theories. He believes that the earliest period is, you know,

742
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a few hundred thousand years ago, which is where the

743
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 2>big stones Sexy Woman were placed. What's you're feeling on

744
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 2>that that theory of the three worlds.

745
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.719
<v Speaker 4>I used to believe in that, but I don't really

746
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:03.760
<v Speaker 4>any more. Over the course of time, I really think

747
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:07.719
<v Speaker 4>there are two building styles. There's the pre Inca megalithic,

748
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 4>and then the Inca. So I'm not really a follower

749
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 4>of that belief system anymore.

750
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, what would you say is a time period

751
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 2>of the first phase.

752
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 4>Minimum thirteen thousand years maximum?

753
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, So it could be one hundred

754
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 2>thousand and then it kind of fell apart around thirteen thousand,

755
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>which would align with the cataclysm that hit the Earth

756
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and pretty much wiped out humanity eighty percent plus. So

757
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:41.360
<v Speaker 2>what you're suggesting, right?

758
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:44.800
<v Speaker 4>Excuse me?

759
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Is there evidence of cataclysm cataclysms in Peru?

760
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Definitely?

761
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:53.719
<v Speaker 2>What areas?

762
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 4>There's a site called Silustani which is near Lake Didi

763
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 4>Kaka where we see definite evidence of heat vitrification of stone,

764
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:12.320
<v Speaker 4>like a melting of the surface, and also in and

765
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 4>around Cusco Weld see that as well, always on the

766
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 4>western surfaces facing west.

767
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 2>It is, so that would be high heat from what's

768
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:29.719
<v Speaker 2>the suspicion asteroid all of the sudden the sun. Okay,

769
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 2>that would kind of go to Robert Shock's theory of sunbursts.

770
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Then I guess exactly, Okay, is there any place elf

771
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.400
<v Speaker 2>like that in like Bolivia that has uh because I

772
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 2>know you've been to Pooh Pooh Coo a few times.

773
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I've been there about seventy times Anile.

774
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

775
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, No, there's definite, definite evidence of heat vitrification

776
00:56:58.159 --> 00:56:59.800
<v Speaker 4>at pump Pumku's leel.

777
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Talk a bit about Puma Puco. Ponanski, who was an

778
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 2>early architect, suggested that that place is probably what was it,

779
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty five thousand years old or something, and he was

780
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:18.119
<v Speaker 2>immediately reprimanded by the author. This isn't like the early

781
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:23.079
<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenties, I think. But what do you say to that,

782
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:26.079
<v Speaker 2>because it's a very very sophisticated place, isn't it.

783
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 4>Well, it used to be, it's a it's an absolute

784
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:34.000
<v Speaker 4>mess now. So the problem with Puma Cunker is that

785
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 4>it has been attacked over the course of a long

786
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 4>period of time. As soon as the Spanish arrived, they

787
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:45.280
<v Speaker 4>started to take Pumakunku apart to make the foundations for

788
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 4>buildings in the nearby little town of Tiwarako, which you

789
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 4>know isn't great. Also evidence that it was hit by

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00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 4>a major tsunami from Lake tity Kaka. So and then

791
00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:59.440
<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen I think nineteen twenties that built a

792
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 4>railroad from late Titicaka to La Paz in Bolivia and

793
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 4>they literally blew up Kumakunku to use as the as

794
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 4>the bed for the gravel or beds for the railway system.

795
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.400
<v Speaker 4>So it's been badly abused over a long period of time.

796
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 4>But I find it the most mysterious place on the planet.

797
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.400
<v Speaker 2>And I mean there's big sections of florine and walls

798
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 2>and stuff that are still buried there, aren't there.

799
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, there's they're you know, their giant slabs of

800
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 4>maybe forty or fifty tons that are tilting into the

801
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 4>ground by about at about thirty degrees and recent reason scanning,

802
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure what technique there is. Probably ground penetrating

803
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 4>radar shows that there's at least twice as much of

804
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 4>Kumakunku underground as there is on the surface now. And

805
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:58.960
<v Speaker 4>it's been, as I was saying, it's been a rifled

806
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 4>through over the course of how hundreds of years, So

807
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:03.920
<v Speaker 4>we have no idea how big it originally was or

808
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:07.079
<v Speaker 4>what it looked like. No matter how people try to

809
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.719
<v Speaker 4>build models of it, you can't because there's only probably

810
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 4>ten percent of Puma Punku left compared to what there

811
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 4>was originally.

812
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So this big tsunami may have buried a majority of

813
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.880
<v Speaker 2>it under soil, is what you're suggesting.

814
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and again that's study is only about two years old.

815
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.239
<v Speaker 4>So the government authorities don't believe. You do know that

816
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 4>Puma punku's at least twice the size underground as it

817
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 4>is above ground, but they don't want to do excavations.

818
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Why not because the local Imara people insists that their

819
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 4>ancestors built Puma Punku between one thousand and two thousand

820
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 4>years ago.

821
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh I didn't know they had found burials there. Why

822
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:57.360
<v Speaker 2>if the local indigenous people are unhappy about excavating that

823
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.239
<v Speaker 2>typically that's because there's a burial ground or something.

824
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:05.719
<v Speaker 4>No, they're just adamant that their ancestors built Pumakunku Intuanaku

825
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 4>and so there have been no excavations there for but

826
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 4>at least five years, and I don't foresee there being

827
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 4>any nature excavations in the future. It's you know, it's

828
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.960
<v Speaker 4>just it's one of those again. It's one of those

829
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:23.320
<v Speaker 4>problems with you know, local people don't want something done,

830
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 4>so the government says, okay, well, we have to respect

831
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 4>what they think, and therefore we're not going to be

832
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.039
<v Speaker 4>scientific about this and just leave the place as it is.

833
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, talk a little bit about the stone work.

834
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I understand that the stones are anti site, which is

835
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 2>very hard igneous rock. What is the suggested technique that

836
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:54.280
<v Speaker 2>was used to cut and form some of the flooring

837
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 2>in other parts of buildings.

838
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, Prima book is made up of two types of stone.

839
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 4>One is red said stone from a quarry eight miles

840
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:06.159
<v Speaker 4>to the west and then the gray and the site

841
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<v Speaker 4>is from the top of a volcano forty five miles

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<v Speaker 4>to the northeast. You know, we've had so many engineers

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<v Speaker 4>to look at, you know, in person, at Pumaumku and

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01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Do and Akoland they're all just they're flabbergasc and you

845
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:26.159
<v Speaker 4>can't see any machine marks or sanding marks. As Georgio

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01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:29.719
<v Speaker 4>Zuppolis would say, as flat as a bathroom mirror. But

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01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 4>that it really is the finish on some of the stone.

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<v Speaker 4>I've taken a three foot level there, put it up

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01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.840
<v Speaker 4>against one of the h blocks, and there's no movement whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>It is perfectly flat.

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<v Speaker 2>So that suggests machining.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, they're machining beyond our capability, as far as I

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01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 4>can tell, beyond twenty first century technology.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny about that place, Brian, because some

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01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:01.719
<v Speaker 2>of the sculptures seem rudimentary, like maybe they came later,

856
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 2>or other civilizations came after the demise of the original

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01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 2>founders of Pumapuku.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you say, Oh, definitely when the two Innaku

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01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:15.199
<v Speaker 4>people showed up, which was around one hundred a D.

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01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:18.639
<v Speaker 4>They existed there until about one thousand a D. And

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<v Speaker 4>they definitely took some of the original stone and etched

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01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 4>in the carving of Birdman and the God via Coacha

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01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:32.480
<v Speaker 4>and things like that. But you can tell them the

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01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:36.679
<v Speaker 4>difference between the crass and ship, between the flatness of

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01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:41.599
<v Speaker 4>the surface and the rather crude etching of the images

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01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 4>into the stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you're the first person that's ever said that.

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<v Speaker 2>So these big archways that are made from megalithic blocks

869
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:56.599
<v Speaker 2>were there without all this calligraphy and hieroglyphics, and the

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01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:59.639
<v Speaker 2>follow up groups are the ones who carved that material.

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01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow? Is there other other examples of that? I mean,

873
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 2>is there are there other Apparently there was a pyramid

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01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:11.000
<v Speaker 2>there at some point, wasn't there?

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01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's still is. It's called the Acapana. It's a

876
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 4>seven layer pyramid mainly made out of mud brick, but

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01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:25.320
<v Speaker 4>there is evidence that it is again far older than

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01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:31.239
<v Speaker 4>the Tiwanaku culture because the giant slabs of massive, massive

879
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:35.519
<v Speaker 4>slabs of andesite stone that are still poking out of

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01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:38.639
<v Speaker 4>some of the walls. So it's you know, it's another

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01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 4>example of a structure that was built originally and then

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01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:43.000
<v Speaker 4>recycled by later culture.

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01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 2>And that seems that happened quite a bit on Earth.

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01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:49.880
<v Speaker 2>We see it all over the place in ancient cultures.

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01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Is the planet was wipe clean nine thy five hundred BC,

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01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and then they show up again. Other groups show up

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01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.480
<v Speaker 2>again and kind of repopulated those areas. Have you been

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01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to go Beckley Teppe brand. Yeah, one, what do you

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01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:06.679
<v Speaker 2>think of that place?

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<v Speaker 4>It's impressive in a way that actual workmanship is very crude.

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01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 4>It's nothing like what we see in Egypt or in Peru.

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01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:22.119
<v Speaker 4>The stone is local, so you don't have the mystery

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01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 4>of the transportation of the stone, the fact that it

894
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:31.079
<v Speaker 4>was supposedly buried on purposes the theory, and also supposedly

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01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.840
<v Speaker 4>only one thirtieth or one fortieth of gobecy Tepe has

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01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:41.599
<v Speaker 4>been excavated with no plan a further investigation for the

897
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:46.079
<v Speaker 4>foreseeable future, which is kind of weird. But technically I

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01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:49.719
<v Speaker 4>would say gobeccy Teppe is not impressive, but it is

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01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:53.239
<v Speaker 4>something that is worth seeing at least once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you. As we conclude, what are

901
01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.639
<v Speaker 2>you working on now it comes to these ancient cultures?

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01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Have you found other civilizations that you're interested in, other

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01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:10.559
<v Speaker 2>almost sapient types of individuals.

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01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Not recently with not a real problem because of COVID's

905
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.559
<v Speaker 4>that shut down for more than two years being able

906
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 4>to act as anything. So now that things are opening

907
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:28.440
<v Speaker 4>up again, I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing new you know,

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01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 4>ancient things I've never seen before. Mildly doubtful, but I

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01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:35.920
<v Speaker 4>will because I've spent more than fifteen years living in

910
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Peru and exploring, and I have a number of friends

911
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.960
<v Speaker 4>who are local experts. If they were to find anything,

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01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:46.719
<v Speaker 4>that definitely tell me about it. But I'm just I'm

913
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:49.760
<v Speaker 4>quite content with how my life is at this point

914
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:56.079
<v Speaker 4>and still doing tours in Peru and Bolivia and Egypt,

915
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:01.400
<v Speaker 4>with maybe other ones coming up Easter Easter on the

916
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Chief Tiel like to go again. I'd like to go

917
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 4>back to Bullbeck in Lebanon, but not right now because

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01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:12.119
<v Speaker 4>they're bombing right next to it. Uh. It's Kinda and

919
01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Petra and Jordan I'd love to see again. Yeah, aside

920
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:20.239
<v Speaker 4>from that, I'm not not quite sure. India definitely at

921
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 4>some point.

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01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, India is a big one, but there the problems

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01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:29.199
<v Speaker 2>with getting reliable transportation is a huge problem there. I've

924
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I've thought about tours there. One last thing, a guy

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01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.000
<v Speaker 2>named John Burke was at Puma Pukuo and did some

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01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 2>electromagnetic testing and found that the buildings seem to be

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01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 2>charged and that there was noticeable and uh trackable energy

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01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:53.880
<v Speaker 2>coming up through a number of the of the buildings connecting.

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01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:55.840
<v Speaker 2>It seems like they're all kind of connected in a way.

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01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you know anything about that? And if

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01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 2>you do, what did you what is your impression into that?

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01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, the end of andesite stone is very magnetic. So

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01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.880
<v Speaker 4>if you take a compass in front of one of

934
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:16.840
<v Speaker 4>the H blocks, for example, you'll notice that the natural

935
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:21.760
<v Speaker 4>magnetic field is running straight in front from right to left.

936
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:24.159
<v Speaker 4>But then if you take the compass and put it

937
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 4>in the slot of the H block and move it

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01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 4>slowly towards the back where there's a little fallsetore, the

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01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 4>compass will move by two hundred and seventy degrees and

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01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:40.800
<v Speaker 4>then when you pull it back out, it corrects itself

941
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.480
<v Speaker 4>and goes back to normal against So the end site

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01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:47.480
<v Speaker 4>is very magnetic. The red sids stone is not magnetic

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01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:49.800
<v Speaker 4>at all. And I think that I think the end

944
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 4>of site was chosen for its magnetic properties for the

945
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:53.960
<v Speaker 4>original function.

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01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 2>But have you heard any studies of that area of

947
01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 2>it sitting on a lay line or a toluric anomaly

948
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.280
<v Speaker 2>at geomagnetic anomaly.

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01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 4>Not that I know of, but I wouldn't doubt that

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01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:07.079
<v Speaker 4>it's the case.

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01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it seems like a lot of these ancient people

952
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.840
<v Speaker 2>were familiar with anomalies, and they built their temples over

953
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:18.560
<v Speaker 2>their anomalies. And there's a growing and I've had them

954
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 2>on the program, a growing body of scientists that are

955
01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:23.640
<v Speaker 2>beginning to study this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's great.

957
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is important. Hey, it's been great speaking with you.

958
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Give people your website, let them know how they can

959
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:33.239
<v Speaker 2>get hold of you.

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01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay. My website is www dot hidden into tours dot com.

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01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you have I looked at your site. You

962
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:47.760
<v Speaker 2>have a number of tours coming up. Where are you

963
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:49.520
<v Speaker 2>going to be going in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>In April is well, as we were discussing earlier February,

965
01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:59.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to the Conscious Life Excelo in Los.

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01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Angeles, Okay, Conscious Life.

967
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Then in April we're going to having a conference in Egypt,

968
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.880
<v Speaker 4>and after that a tour. Then in June we have

969
01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 4>a major tour of Peru and Bolivia, and then in

970
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.720
<v Speaker 4>November another major tour of Peru and Bolivia.

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01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.880
<v Speaker 2>So you're a itinerary for these foreign journeys is typically

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01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:27.159
<v Speaker 2>looking at ancient buildings and getting a sense of perhaps

973
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the anomalies of Them's your what's your goal when you're

974
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:31.920
<v Speaker 2>doing a itinerary at these places?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, mainly to show the clear difference between the megalithic

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01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:41.680
<v Speaker 4>and the inco work, or between the pre dynastic and

977
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:46.399
<v Speaker 4>the dynastic work in Egypt, which everyone sees quite obviously

978
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 4>after about the second day, it's like night, you know,

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01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:52.000
<v Speaker 4>it is like night and day in terms of construction technique.

980
01:09:52.640 --> 01:10:02.439
<v Speaker 4>Also we delve into spirituality on some level anomalous skulls

981
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:07.000
<v Speaker 4>where it's possible to observe them. Would like to do

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01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:15.640
<v Speaker 4>like quite a well rounded tour mixing spirituality and inan

983
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Incan culture, Egyptian mysteries, et cetera. So it's not one

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01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:27.119
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent about lost ancient technology, but more and more

985
01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:30.680
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to do a much more well rounded exploration

986
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:33.720
<v Speaker 4>of every aspect of any of these areas.

987
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good, Hey, you have any new books coming up?

988
01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Are you working on something new?

989
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 5>Not?

990
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:42.600
<v Speaker 4>As far as I can tell, I've written thirty seven books.

991
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 4>I might do one about ancient Israel if I can

992
01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:50.039
<v Speaker 4>ever get there, which is my plan, And then I

993
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:55.159
<v Speaker 4>would also do a book obviously about ancient India, because

994
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:57.520
<v Speaker 4>there's so much megalothic stuff in India it's insane.

995
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's a b now, fantastic, Brian Forrester, fantastic.

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01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate your time and look forward to talking to you again.

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01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:12.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you. Clip always a pleasure.

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01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:21.239
<v Speaker 2>We have been talking about these longhead to practice people,

999
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 2>the people that are in China and in Europe and

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01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.039
<v Speaker 2>in South America. I have a gallery. I put together

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01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.680
<v Speaker 2>a gallery some photos from Brian and then some others

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01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that I have found, and you can see those, as

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01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned in the interview, on Facebook, and you need

1004
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:43.920
<v Speaker 2>to go to Facebook and just type in Earth Ancients

1005
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 2>and you'll see them. It's probably going to be fifteen

1006
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:52.000
<v Speaker 2>plus because there's a lot of discovery. I have some

1007
01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:58.319
<v Speaker 2>photos from Mexico that are very very unusual and that

1008
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:03.319
<v Speaker 2>are not head bound. It's obviously they're not Headbob because

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01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:07.720
<v Speaker 2>the craniums are so big and they haven't really been

1010
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.880
<v Speaker 2>studied with any with any detail, which is very strange.

1011
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know, is this conspiracy or what I mean?

1012
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Brian's like, you know, they don't want to open a

1013
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:23.439
<v Speaker 2>can of worms. And I say this a lot. You know,

1014
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:26.760
<v Speaker 2>you only could go as far as your education if

1015
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:31.039
<v Speaker 2>you're not willing to go beyond. If you're a PhD

1016
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:36.439
<v Speaker 2>in archaeology, and you're not willing to go beyond. That's

1017
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:39.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of a problem. I also believe that it has

1018
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to do with funding. If there's no money to do research,

1019
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you're not you can't. You don't have the time to

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01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:48.319
<v Speaker 2>go out and you know, dig up graves and get

1021
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:51.399
<v Speaker 2>the pay the money, get the permission to dig up

1022
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:56.760
<v Speaker 2>sites and start looking at skeletal remains. And then you

1023
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.800
<v Speaker 2>have to bring on a whole area of science that's

1024
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:06.520
<v Speaker 2>not typical, like forensic science in the study of human bodies,

1025
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:12.039
<v Speaker 2>that's not something that is typically done. And so we're

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01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:15.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of left to perhaps a new generation of interested

1027
01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:22.079
<v Speaker 2>people on studying these hominins, these humans, and you know

1028
01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:25.000
<v Speaker 2>where they come from. Are they, you know, a branch

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01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:27.239
<v Speaker 2>that we should be looking at, a branch of Homo

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01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:31.159
<v Speaker 2>sapien sapien. I'm not going to go as far and

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01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:36.199
<v Speaker 2>say that they're alien, but you know, perhaps if DNA

1032
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:42.439
<v Speaker 2>is studied and there's a strain and there's unusual or

1033
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:47.800
<v Speaker 2>unknown DNA in the study, well then maybe that's something

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01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to consider, you know. I mean, Brian brought it up.

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01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.199
<v Speaker 2>He's been on Ancient Aliens about twenty thirty times talking

1036
01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:59.359
<v Speaker 2>about this, and it's easy for people to flip off

1037
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the planet and consider the paractice heads the parracice skulls

1038
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:09.039
<v Speaker 2>alien because they are so unusual and so unlike anything

1039
01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:17.880
<v Speaker 2>you see normally in museums. Interesting subject. Hey, we are

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01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:22.359
<v Speaker 2>going to Rapanui March fifteenth to the twenty third, and

1041
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:25.960
<v Speaker 2>we got a space left. And I've been talking about

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01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.560
<v Speaker 2>this now for a couple of weeks. We were taking

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01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:32.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty people. But if you or your wife, you our

1044
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 2>friend want to come along, send it to Earth Ancients

1045
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:40.319
<v Speaker 2>for you at gmail dot com and say hey, I'd

1046
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 2>like to join you. You can see the entire itinerary

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01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:47.880
<v Speaker 2>at earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours and you

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01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.159
<v Speaker 2>can see from the first date of the last day

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to be a wonderful tour. It's being

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<v Speaker 2>led by doctor Edward Barnhardt ed Stune some masterful surve there,

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<v Speaker 2>and with that survey in hand, we will see a

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<v Speaker 2>number of areas that are not typically available to the

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<v Speaker 2>general public, so that makes it even more special. One

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<v Speaker 2>week March fifteenth to the twenty third, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I said, we're all pretty much done. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't take more than one or two people. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're interested to me an email again. For the full itinerary,

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<v Speaker 2>go to Earth Ancients dot com Forward slash tours. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>listen for this program or I think my guest today

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Forster, coming to us from Peru. As always, the

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<v Speaker 2>team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster and everyone who makes

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<v Speaker 2>this thing happen.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are rock all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care of you well and get into Christmas spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>We're almost at that time. And get your shopping done.

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<v Speaker 2>God all that shit luping all those people. Thank God

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<v Speaker 2>for Amazon. All right, take care of me well and

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk to you next time