WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:08.960 My Billy cunning him the Great America and walk in 2 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.240 this hot, glorious Wednesday afternoon with tri state. Of course, 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:15.679 Reds Baseball won dramatic passion last night. Tommy Thrall was 4 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.600 going nuts on the radio. Back out it again tonight, 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.000 first pitch about six forty. Airtime with us is about 6 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:24.640 five forty. The Reds drive maybe to go to fifty 7 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.000 to fifty in the season, only a few games remain, 8 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.559 Let's see what happens. But until then, of course, once again, 9 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.000 this is like a recurring herpes infection. We're back to 10 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.079 pay Course Stadium. Here we are, some thirty years later, 11 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.159 back again, and Brian Hamm recovered it all for Channel 12 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:43.439 five along with Tom Gableman representing I guess the commissioners, 13 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.640 and also he's a specialty on it. We have this 14 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:48.920 big elaborate plan, many pages long. Everything's going to work. 15 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.359 It's only about one point two five billion dollars, and 16 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.719 of course he had another thirty forty percent for cost overruns. 17 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:57.679 And who's going to pay for it? Nobody cares. It 18 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:01.719 looks great, wonderful looking stadium. Issue is well. Mike Brown 19 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.719 and the Bengals agree, and that's maybe a different issue. 20 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:06.599 It may be a little more difficult to get that 21 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.480 for Brian Hamrick. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, 22 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:10.359 and Brian, how are you. 23 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:11.519 I'm good? 24 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:12.920 Thanks again, mister Cunningham. 25 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.359 Let's talk about can you give us an overview about 26 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.239 what happened yesterday and when we look forward to a 27 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:21.680 long term guaranteed bonus Layton lease signed by Mike Brown 28 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.200 and the Bengals. Give us an overview, Brian Hamrick, if 29 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.280 you can. Of course, you were here some thirty years ago, 30 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.560 as I was with you at that point, talking about 31 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:30.480 the same thing. And it seems to me like the 32 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.640 Great American Ballpark, also owned by the county, has no 33 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.319 issues whatsoever at any point. I can't recall any problems 34 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:39.599 on the lease, and I guess it's going to be 35 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.680 renewed soon, no problems at all. But the Bengals and 36 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.879 pay courts continues to be a difficulty. Give the American 37 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:46.959 people a full report. 38 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:52.359 It's another you know, it's another situation over there. You 39 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.680 know what that's about less than a half mile away, 40 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:59.439 and you might as well be a thousand miles away 41 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.879 in terms of the way things are handled and treated. 42 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.640 And uh, it just seems different. Yeah, Well, this MSA 43 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:08.599 sport or a Cincinnati company h one of the top 44 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.719 in the country for designing sports facilities, and they came 45 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:16.080 up with a plan what they think would be, you know, 46 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:21.240 top among NFL teams. What NFL teams want to see. 47 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:25.159 They they presented, Uh a while back, there was a 48 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.439 presentation of here's what really is trending in the NFL 49 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:32.960 what NFL teams. So this firm then came up with, 50 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:38.240 you know, the concrete ideas for what could happen down there. 51 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:38.960 Uh. 52 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:44.400 If you have one point two five billion billion dollars 53 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.319 to do it with billion dollars? 54 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.400 Well, uh, I guess were the Bengals involved in formulating 55 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.400 the plan or were they left out? And they're kind 56 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.280 of told by the county what it looks like. Are 57 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:56.360 the Bengals involved in the. 58 00:02:58.080 --> 00:02:59.560 Well, it's a little unclear. 59 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:04.960 I think they have money maybe in the design and 60 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.560 paying this firm and look, you guys come up with 61 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:11.919 what we want. But it sounds a little like nobody's 62 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.639 really guiding this to specifics. 63 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:15.280 It's sort of. 64 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.599 Like you come up with an idea, lay your offerings 65 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.680 at the feet of the Bengals and we will deny 66 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.240 or accept. You know, so that's kind of the way 67 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:27.400 it looks. The King wants to see your offerings. 68 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:28.319 What have you brought? 69 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:32.080 Kind of the Kim John Unn, May I approach the bench, 70 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.800 get on your knees, crawl on your belly, and see 71 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:37.560 if we accept what's coming. And by the way, you're 72 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.319 paying for it. The first go around was ninety to 73 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:42.680 ninety five percent by the tax. By the way, the 74 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:47.120 NFL is the most profitable, profitable franchise, the most important 75 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.439 franchise in the history of the world. There's billions and 76 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.240 billions and billions of dollars flying around. The Bengals are 77 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.439 now worth about five to six billion dollars, multi billionaires, 78 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.719 and all we have are the bills basically, and they 79 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.919 have the revenue. Well that change because normally, if there's 80 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:06.879 that much money flying around, why should the taxpayer not 81 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:10.439 participate in the in the ingredients and the meal that 82 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:12.960 they're providing all the ingredients for. You know what I'm saying. 83 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:14.080 Why is that not the case? 84 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.879 Well, it all comes down to this. You know, the 85 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:23.160 Bengals have said in the past basically that they're willing 86 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:27.680 to walk. There's other towns that could support this team 87 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.759 and other towns that are waiting, probably with the check 88 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.560 book right now, to write them a check for a 89 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.839 new stadium, state of the art. You know, you saw 90 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.879 that with you know, Oakland went out to you know, 91 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:40.759 Las Vegas. 92 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:41.639 You've seen other. 93 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.439 Communities do this. You've seen you know, down in San Diego, 94 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.600 they're looking for a team right now. They wouldn't deal 95 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.160 with what they wanted to out there, and then they 96 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.959 lost the team go up to Los Angeles. You know, 97 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.639 it's been said that, you know, the Brown family loves 98 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.439 San Diego in that area though, you know, that would 99 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.959 be a possibility. Maybe they work a deal out there. 100 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.920 I mean, the weather's great. If you're not paying taxes, 101 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:08.920 you're getting all this, you're making money, and you can 102 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.079 live out there. You know what, it isn't so bad. 103 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.160 But when you have the team and all these teams 104 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.120 are willing, It's not just the Bengals, all the teams 105 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.279 are willing to say we're ready to walk. And when 106 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.480 you have them pretty much over a barrel. They want 107 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:26.000 this team. The fans here. 108 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:26.680 Love the Bengals. 109 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:28.879 They want the Bengals here. Yep. 110 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.240 But at what cost is the question? 111 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:36.199 And that's what and That's what the answer that has 112 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:39.439 to be given by the taxpayers of Hamilton County. 113 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.879 When I talked to Governor Mike DeWine, you know, the 114 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.240 state's willing to participate. The NFL has a fund ready 115 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:49.759 to participate. The county sales tax continuing and infinitum, despite 116 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.199 the fact that property rollback did not happen. And on 117 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.000 the other side, you have the Bengals. As you said, 118 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.079 dozens of American cities would love to have them. We 119 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:02.240 want to do everything possible to keep the Bengals. The 120 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:04.639 original cost of the stadium was about five hundred and 121 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.399 fifty million. Now it's more than two and a half times, 122 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.639 not just to renovate it. The costs are skyrocketing, and 123 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.240 the value of these franchises have skyrocketed. I think the 124 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:17.240 Brown family has about fifty million dollars into it. Now 125 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.720 it's worth one hundred times that. It's worth five or 126 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.439 six billion or more. And then layer on top of 127 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.079 that the age of Mike Brown. He's approaching ninety years old. 128 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.680 The new generation is ready to take over, and I 129 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.079 have every sense that Katie and Troy and the kids 130 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.319 want to remain in Cincinnati. They're Cincinnatians and they want 131 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:36.399 to remain here. But at leasha reason is the one 132 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.639 that says that what price. Jeffer Ludo's talking about the 133 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.199 Bengals putting up forty to fifty percent of the deal. 134 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:45.000 That means the Bengals. Bengals would have to put up 135 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:49.279 about five to six hundred million dollars to stay in Cincinnati, 136 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.480 and then the county would put up some money, and 137 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:53.480 the state's going to put up some money, but not 138 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.120 to the tune of one point twenty five billion. This 139 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:57.720 is going to play out over the next five to 140 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.959 six years because it's a five year renewal coming up 141 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.560 that the Bengals are going to sign into, which keeps 142 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.720 the present bad deal in place. So we're looking forward 143 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.839 to another six or seven years of the same stuff 144 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.040 until there's a long term, guaranteed a lease, which the 145 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.000 Bengals don't want to do until they see what this 146 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.040 what the funding mechanism is. And I'm not sure that 147 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:23.920 the political character of the current Commissions commissioners fit in 148 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.240 with the button down Tafts. It's Pheneus and Hollister approach 149 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.399 of the Bengals. That's a secondary matter. Answer this question, 150 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.319 Brian Hammrick. Why don't we have the same difficulties with 151 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.959 my ballpark, the Great American? Why is one is always 152 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.399 an angst and the other one things are handled quietly 153 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.399 below the surface, and the Castellinis keep on keeping on. 154 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.560 Why Well, I mean you just have to imagine that 155 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.560 they're they're more willing to work with. I think that 156 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:53.800 the countings felt like they've been more equitable over there. 157 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:59.000 I mean the lease deal. I mean of a number 158 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.399 of stuff these independent of the Bengals that look at 159 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:05.920 all these stadium deals, a number of deaths, you know, 160 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.000 and one of them comes out all the time says, 161 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:11.560 this is the worst deal. The taxpayers got the worst 162 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.279 deal with this one of any across the country. 163 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:17.560 I mean, you know, we all expect that it's going 164 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.800 to be you're going to have to pay a certain. 165 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:23.399 Amount and all that, but this is consistently comes up 166 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.319 as one of the worst, if not the worst. Like 167 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:31.800 in every one of these listings of what's happening, I 168 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.960 mean there's there's things like like the county, well, like 169 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:36.840 when they got pay Corps put on the side of 170 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:41.039 the stadium over there, Well, the county doesn't even have 171 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.720 to They don't even get to know how much they 172 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.080 got out of that. The county gon't know what they 173 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.759 made off of that, and and the county it's none 174 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.440 of it. It's a sign hanging on the stadium that 175 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:57.080 the county owns, and they don't get any money. 176 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:57.480 For it, you know. 177 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.559 I mean it's things like that. It's that, you know, 178 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.519 the county pays all the money. It's at least Reese 179 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.039 has been, you know, going off over this whole thing 180 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.080 where they wanted to have a watch party. They couldn't 181 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:10.799 do it, couldn't get it done, no way it could 182 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:12.679 be done. And then all of a sudden there's a 183 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.559 watch party in here and they're charging ninety nine dollars 184 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:16.440 a person to do it. 185 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:18.120 You know, like that, this. 186 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.559 Is why, you know, one of the best parties. 187 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.440 Well, look, it is all legit. It's all in that. 188 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.200 You look at that contract is legit. 189 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:28.840 I'm sure all of it. Well, you know, one of 190 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.320 the best elements of this is that the guy on 191 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.360 behalf of the taxpayer negotiating the deal with Mike Brown 192 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.919 and the Bengals, when when he was kicked out of office, 193 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.679 he changed jerseys and started working for the Bengals. So 194 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.559 the County commissioner and negotiated the deal with Mike Brown 195 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:45.039 after he was kicked out of office, runs to the 196 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:47.960 Bengals and they hire him as a consultant. That's beautiful. 197 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:49.080 That is unbelievable. 198 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:53.080 I mean you have to wonder. I mean, I guess 199 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:57.840 there's no law against that thing. You negotiate some big contract. 200 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:02.919 We're talking up five hundred a million dollars contract at 201 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:06.000 the time. You negotiate that, and then you go to 202 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.720 work for the company that you negotiated with. That that 203 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:13.559 just doesn't seem I mean, that seems something really odd 204 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.919 about that and the way it was set up initially. 205 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.399 Now they don't do it anymore. But remember, for years, 206 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:23.200 I can't remember how many, maybe the first ten years, 207 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:28.679 if the Bengals didn't sell the seats, the county had 208 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.159 to buy those seats. Beautiful, but they had to sell 209 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:32.960 us the stadium and the county had to buy them. 210 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:34.360 If they didn't sell this stadium. 211 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.600 Well, I think we're going to talk about this for 212 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.600 the next several years, and so we'll see what happens 213 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.080 down the road. But every time you negotiate with Mike Brown, 214 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.559 whether the I R. S or Hamley County. You come 215 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.120 out wearing a barrel around, you have no clothes left, 216 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.679 you have no shoes, you have no car. He wins 217 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:53.200 every time. It's unbelievable. He makes Darth Vader look like 218 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:56.080 an amateur. But alright's well, I. 219 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:00.159 Will say they're great at negotiations. Oh yeah, they he 220 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.320 sometimes don't have on the field. Well, you go and 221 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.440 look at what they do as a business. 222 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:06.399 Super super Bowl. 223 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.840 They are taught there. They are Super Bowl contenders with 224 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.480 every single one of these deals, and that's the way 225 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:14.080 they play them. 226 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.799 We've got to get Mike Brown over to the Middle 227 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.600 East and resolve that little problem between Hesbla Israel. 228 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:19.679 Hamas probably could do. 229 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.600 Mike Brown, get over there. It's all done. There's piece 230 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.320 and there's olive orchards growing up in the Gaza. Mike 231 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.799 Brown is the best there ever was ever will be. Secondly, 232 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.279 give me an update. Tony Bender wants to know. He 233 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:34.480 thinks he is deep roots in Kentucky in this so 234 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:39.480 called highway shooter is still underground somewhere running around and 235 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.879 they can't find the guy. They got the bloodhounds out, 236 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.039 but can't find this guy who wounded five people in 237 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.159 interstate I seventy five high school games are being canceled. 238 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:51.440 What's the latest with the mole and the mole in Kentucky? 239 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:57.279 Well, yeah, so there's Joseph Kouch open fire hitting. They 240 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.240 now know seventeen vehicles. It's at least seventeen. There may 241 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:04.279 be more. People are still coming in with complaints and 242 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:08.039 finding bullet holes in their cars that didn't realize we're there. 243 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:13.240 This guy squirrels off into the woods Daniel Boone National 244 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:17.879 Forest and is fit. I mean, it is it going 245 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:19.840 through that. They took us up there the other day, 246 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:23.600 put us in bullet fruit proof vests and helmets when 247 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.120 we went up there, because and where this guy is 248 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.320 They have no idea and I ain't think he was 249 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:30.519 where we were, but they were requiring that as a 250 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:34.440 safety precaution. So we went up there. Sawry had parked 251 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:38.200 the car. Saw the sickness of all this. Sawry he 252 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.360 had to go to get to the overlook about three 253 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.559 hundred yards away to get to the overlook and. 254 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:44.759 Shoot down on the vehicles. 255 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.000 But he went off into the woods like a rabbit 256 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.639 and has not been been seen since. 257 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:51.039 And. 258 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.639 They're still looking for him. They tracked him with dogs 259 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.879 and what They basically ended up telling us is they 260 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:02.639 track them with dogs. They went down there into the 261 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.720 woods for days blood finally. 262 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.279 They told us four days. 263 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.159 They were so convinced and are like, we can't say 264 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:13.840 it's mister Colts, but these dogs generally don't lift. 265 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.240 I mean, these dogs are really good. 266 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.039 And so they followed them, and based on that, they 267 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.759 have now moved their command post to a separate area 268 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.159 in the direction where they think that he may have 269 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.200 gone to. They didn't say what direction that was, but 270 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.039 they did say it was deeper into the forest. So 271 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.919 they think that's why they think he's still in those 272 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:41.039 woods right now, rather than dead, or rather than somewhere else. 273 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.679 You know, Brian, this like the Eric Rudolph situation where 274 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.399 he lived in the mountains for years finally was caught 275 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.000 in a dumpster behind a kmart, And I guess this 276 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.919 guy ultimate land. At some point you kind of hunker down, 277 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.840 see what's going on. Well, Brian Hemrick, are there any 278 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.039 any of these parties of p Didny, these freakouts? Any 279 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.879 of these things happened at Channel five with Shari Pulolo 280 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:04.399 Mike Dartis any freakouts happening there at Channel five? 281 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:04.799 What do you. 282 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:08.600 Think the only freakout we have is when the scripts 283 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:15.600 come in late freaked out, Betty. 284 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:19.799 All right, that's unbelievable. Once again, Brian Hemrick, thank you 285 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.519 for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 286 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.240 Thanks again, mister Cunningham. 287 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.279 All right, that's the best there is, Brian Hamrick. Of 288 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.679 the Power of five. We got freakouts, you got the 289 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.279 Snipers in seventy five, you got the Believe or not. 290 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.799 The Bengals lease is back up for the next several years. 291 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.919 And Mike Brown, he's the best there ever was. Bill Cunningham, 292 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.360 the great American with you every day. You're Home of 293 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.000 the Reds and the Bengals. News Radio seven hundreds wl W. 294 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:49.600 All right, now, Billy Cunningham, the Great American Reds Baseball 295 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.399 about five forty tonight. Reds came back in a dramatic 296 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:55.720 fashion last night. And I love the comments of Hunter Green, 297 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.320 who's been hurt for the past month, that next year 298 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:00.799 is going to be different. Keep hope alive, Always keep 299 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:05.519 hope alive. Secondly, Brian Hamrick points it out Jeffaludo, Alisia Reese, 300 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.639 whoever might be Tom Gableman, And it would be helpful 301 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.279 if someone's going to spend well north of a billion 302 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.600 dollars on upgrades to pay Course stadium, that those affect 303 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.519 it would be on the front end, not the back end. 304 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.159 And so I'm told, and I don't know if it's 305 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.279 true or not, but I'm told that the County commissioners 306 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.840 would have liked for the Bengals, that is, Mike Brown, 307 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:30.600 Katie and Troy, to be involved in the front end 308 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:32.960 to talk about what are your needs, what are your ones? 309 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:34.399 This is what we want to do. What do you 310 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:36.879 want to do. We want to stop Central Avenue, we 311 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:38.480 want to park, we want to connect it to the 312 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:40.519 east end and the west end. What do you think? 313 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.759 And there's no reaction from the Bengals in regard to 314 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.360 planning it ahead of time. What they want to do 315 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:50.279 is for the county to go first, do all the 316 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.799 work they have to do, and then the Bengals can 317 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.919 say yes or no at some point in the future. 318 00:15:55.840 --> 00:16:00.679 And as Scott Sloan points out, sometime next year when 319 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.480 the lease expires in twenty twenty six, sometime next year, 320 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.559 the Bengals are going to extend the lease with the 321 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.039 present term for five more years. So from now that 322 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.240 gives them about seven years before they have to do anything, 323 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.799 which is they keep the revenue and the taxpayer pays 324 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:18.960 the expenses about ninety five percent or paid under the lease. 325 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.080 And in order to keep the thing up and running, 326 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.360 the Bengals spent about one hundred and twelve million dollars 327 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.519 to upgrade parts of pay Corps. And then after that, 328 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.960 maybe long after I'm gone in one sense or another. 329 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.799 Hopefully I have many years yet to go. But I 330 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.600 can recall thirty some years ago how this thing all started, 331 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:39.360 and here we are thirty some years later. They can 332 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:42.639 extend it five more years after that, and so before 333 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.919 anything has to happen with the Bengals, you'd be talking 334 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:50.759 about the year twenty thirty six, twenty thirty six. And 335 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:54.600 so the Bengals are not motivated at all to engage 336 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.039 in these discussions because they have the most favorable lease 337 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:01.120 in the history of mankind, so why change it? And 338 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:04.200 there's no urge whatsoever. And by then I would think 339 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.880 Denise Treehouse and uh Stephanie and also Lisa Reese, they'll 340 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.519 all be gone anyway from the commission, and ten to 341 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.240 twelve years from now, so likely somebody else will be there. 342 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.319 So we'll deal with it. At that point, there's no 343 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.000 motivation at all from the Bengals to change the status quo, 344 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.200 which is in their betterment, so why change it all. 345 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.160 We'll see what happens, and by then Joe Burrow will 346 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.720 be retired, and who knows how the Bengals are going 347 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:33.319 to be now. My ballpark, the Great American has not 348 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.480 had any of these difficulties. I can't recall any dispute 349 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:41.279 between the Castellinis and in the county. They simply fix 350 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:46.359 revenue enhancing parts and proceed accordingly. How many stories have 351 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:52.240 you seen about the Castellini's fighting with the county? Correct? None, 352 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.119 So it is what it is. Secondly, for the third time, 353 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.000 I have this story out of out of long eye, 354 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.119 and you may know that tonight, Wednesday night, there's going 355 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.799 to be a rally the Trumpster's putting together in Nassau County, 356 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:10.559 and near the planned rally site, there's been an explosive 357 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:16.519 device located by detection dogs in a blue barrel. There 358 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:18.480 was one removed in a blue barrel, one in the 359 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.359 trunk of a car, and Nassau Police have confirmed they 360 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.960 responded to a suspicious occurrence near the side of tonight's rally. 361 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:30.440 Police reportedly found explosives in a car near former President 362 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.240 Trump's rally side on Long Island and head of his 363 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:38.799 speech tonight. So they're still trying to kill them and 364 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:44.279 by any means necessary. And these explosive devices and pagers 365 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.599 and now walkie talkies in hesblah, caused me to be 366 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.039 concerned when open up my own device, because our devices 367 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.000 come from communists Red China, and they always will come. 368 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:58.240 These small little batteries are controlled by the communist Red Chinese. 369 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:01.519 What happens into the future is guy God only knows. 370 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:06.400 But by any means necessary, the forces of darkness went 371 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:10.839 Trump dead. In fact, a poll was conducted by Rasmussen 372 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:17.440 on Monday and Tuesday this week headline about thirty percent 373 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:21.480 of Democrats which Trump had been assassinated. As the Democrats 374 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.839 and their lapdog media continues to absurdly blame Donald Trump 375 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:29.240 for his own assassination attempts over the past sixty four days, 376 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:32.000 a shocking new poll found that about three out of 377 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:35.559 ten Democrats think America would be better off if the 378 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:40.720 former president had been killed. Go on to the story incredible. 379 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.200 Americans also had strong thoughts on what would be driving 380 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.359 there would be assassins to act. Forty five percent of 381 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:51.240 Americans say it was anti Trump rhetoric by the Democrats. 382 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:55.839 Forty one percent suggests as the mainstream media. How about 383 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.720 that one. The survey was conducted by Rasmussen September sixteenth 384 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:03.039 and seventeenth, which is Monday and Tuesday. Thirty percent of 385 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:09.000 Democrats wish that Trump had been killed. Are you kidding me? Yes, No, 386 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.440 I'm not kidding you. It is right here. So that's 387 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.920 driving me a bit crazy tonight. Then I look this afternoon. 388 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.039 Now I look at some other polling, and you know, 389 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:23.680 polling is is horseless. If we had elections based upon polls, 390 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.440 Hillary Clinton and would still be in the White House 391 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:30.880 in a sense. But CBS Morning News sent out a 392 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.680 group of reporters to Nevada because that state is, as 393 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:39.519 you know, paper thin. And they originally sent out Major 394 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:43.759 Garrett of CBS News to Michigan, and he came back 395 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:46.319 of the report that the support for President Donald Trump 396 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:50.720 was real, ubiquitous and resilient. It was just a local 397 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:57.440 Detroit News poll that may have Democrats upset the findings were. 398 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:01.039 Instead of actually relying upon a poll, let's send reporters 399 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.480 into the field, and so Major Garrett did a very 400 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:08.160 brief report because it didn't fit the narrative at CBS 401 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:13.119