WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:05.360 Uncensored, unfiltered, fun hinged. 2 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:07.200 It's the Corell Cast. 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:15.480 Listen daily on your favorite streaming service. It is the Cralcast. 4 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:16.280 I am Carell. 5 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:20.199 Happy New Year's Eve, So very glad you are joining 6 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:22.519 me now. As you all know, it's the last day 7 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:25.640 of twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. It's already twenty 8 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:28.280 twenty five in Australia in places like that, it's just 9 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.280 around the corner for us, and I hope we're going 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.240 to try to make it a good one. I've been 11 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.079 so grateful for you in twenty twenty four. I love 12 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.640 you so very much. I've done one hundred and like 13 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:42.359 eighty five shows for you this year, and I can't 14 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.039 thank you for indulging me on days that I can't 15 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:47.719 do shows, or on days where I gotta do them 16 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:50.920 late because of my back or whatever. But you've stuck 17 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.240 with me, and I can't thank you enough. Thank you, 18 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.520 thank you, thank you, thank you to all the Patronspatreon 19 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.039 dot com, forward slash really Corel. Now you're gonna be 20 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.039 safe tonight because I need you in the new year. 21 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.079 Why don't you be like me and go to a 22 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.200 pub at four o'clock in the afternoon and celebrate New 23 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:10.280 Year's even Ireland. That's what I do. I'm home by 24 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.040 five and then at midnight, me and emberor Blissully in bed. 25 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:16.359 All right, we're going to end the year with one 26 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:19.400 of my favorite interviews from like six seven, eight years ago, 27 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.200 and it was one of her last interviews. I was 28 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:25.599 so lucky to get to go to Anne Rice's house 29 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:29.519 in Los Angeles, sit with her and Chris Rice and 30 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:30.799 talk about. 31 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.480 All the books, just all the books. 32 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.319 She I had met in New Orleans years New Orleans 33 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.599 years earlier, she remembered me. Of course we became friends afterwards. 34 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:46.400 I'm still friends with Chris. Writing and literature is so important, 35 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.000 and if you don't want to spend time reading, do 36 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:52.719 an audiobook. But it's important that we continue to revere 37 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:58.120 and respect and be interested in authors and people who write. 38 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:01.760 And I certainly was inted in Anne Rice. I wish 39 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.480 she could have lived to see the success of her 40 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.680 TV show. Interview with the Vampire is currently on the 41 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:11.759 AMC networks. It's in season two, highly successful. I'm sure 42 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:15.120 there'll be a season three. Also, The Mayfair Witches on 43 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:18.560 the AMC network. So we sat down and talked with Anne, 44 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:22.400 and she was developing them at this time with her son. 45 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.360 He is still with us, she is not. But what 46 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.639 a glorious interview was. And yeah, I talk a lot 47 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:32.520 in the interview. I was so thrilled to see her. 48 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.719 I just rawra but you know what you're used to that. 49 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.599 So here is Anne Rice and Christopher Rice at their 50 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.479 home in Los Angeles. And thanks to Brandon Riley Miller 51 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:46.759 for editing all of this video for me originally on 52 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.800 life and segments. All Right, have a safe, happy New 53 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.159 Year's Eve. You know I love you. You know I'm grateful 54 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:56.080 for you. You know I want to see all of 55 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.400 you in twenty twenty five and enjoy this interview with 56 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.800 Anne and Rice, and then I'll see you tomorrow. We're 57 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.840 gonna go to Ireland tomorrow. Oh, the Obama Museum and 58 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.879 we're gonna talk to Panty Bliss. Oh We've just oh, 59 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.000 there's so many people this week on these best ofs. 60 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.199 I'm just so excited. So here we go with Ann 61 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:17.840 and Christopher Rice. We'll see you tomorrow. Comment down below, 62 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.080 like and subscribe the videos, and of course, become a 63 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:25.759 patron at patreon dot com. Forward slash really correl you 64 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.400 know some of the most beautiful and peaceful places in 65 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:31.439 the world are cemeteries. This is mine, and I mean 66 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.240 I'm buried here, at least I don't think so, at 67 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.719 least not yet. But in nineteen seventy five I first 68 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.120 came to this cemetery, and I've been visiting cemeteries. 69 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:42.639 All over the world. 70 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.319 The names on these headstones around this cemetery are the 71 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.919 names on the streets all over Long Beach. The founders 72 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:53.159 of my city reside here. This is where the original 73 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.400 Long Beachians live. I come to this cemetery a lot 74 00:03:56.439 --> 00:04:00.000 to think, to contemplate, and I wonder why people are 75 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.199 of the dead and cemeteries make them all creepy and 76 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:04.199 creep them out. 77 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:05.840 Let's be real. 78 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:10.199 As humans, we have a preoccupation with what comes next, 79 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.360 and writers for years and years and years. 80 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.079 Have been fantasizing about it. Now. 81 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.319 One of my favorite someone whose books I have read 82 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.279 in this very cemetery, maybe right here by Miss may Davis. 83 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:28.959 Honey Sarahlida may Davis is Anne Rice, and I met 84 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.319 her son many years ago, about ten now, who when 85 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:35.319 he came out as a gay person. I first interviewed 86 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.600 her in Arlands. Now Irelands as they call it now 87 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.759 Arlands with my late husband Andrew Howard on a trip 88 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.879 going through there. And I've interviewed her many times throughout 89 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:45.199 the year. 90 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:45.399 Now. 91 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.879 She writes about vampires and ghosts and goblins and you know, 92 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.439 mummies and things that come up and come out of 93 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.879 the ground. Trust me, I've been here many a night. 94 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.319 Nothing really has come out of the ground around here now. 95 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:58.920 If you know Anne Rice, and you know the Vampire Chronicles, 96 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.560 which is not her new book, by the way, her 97 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.319 new book. Her new book is about Ramses and Cleopatra Ramses, 98 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.319 of course another character she has created, the Mummy, But 99 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:11.199 the Vampire Chronicles. Certainly, Lestatt and Louis her favorites, uh 100 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.639 and my favorites. And I always vacillate on which one 101 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.360 I would be. Would I be Lestotte with his fabulous 102 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.279 fashion sense that he has, or would I be Louis 103 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.000 with you know, his brooding and his temperament. 104 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.279 I never do know. 105 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.560 One thing I do know is Anne Rice is a delight. 106 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.160 Her son is a joy. And we got to sit 107 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:31.240 down with them in their West Hollywood apartment, in his 108 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.240 West Hollywood apartment and live somelve But she was visiting 109 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.560 for the book tour and have tea in one of 110 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.560 her favorite and not my favorite chee scents. 111 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:59.879 Shain say. 112 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.319 In the year two thousand, two thousand and one, so 113 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.199 this would be sixteen seventeen years ago. We were on 114 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.160 the ten Freeway, my late husband and I on our 115 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.199 way to KFI Radio, and I said, do you know 116 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:28.240 this freeway touches so many cities and states across the country. 117 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.600 It goes from the Santa Monica Pier to Jacksonville, Florida. 118 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:35.079 Wouldn't it be great to broadcast all across the way, 119 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.120 never going more than ten miles north or south of it. 120 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.560 Well we did, and what an adventure. That's we're making that. 121 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:44.360 Brandon and I are making a documentary out of that. 122 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.639 We're gonna do the trip again. But when we got 123 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.040 to New Orleans, we opened up the phone book because 124 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.959 I had heard that Anne Reis, my favorite author's phone 125 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:53.639 number was in the phone book, and I thought, no, 126 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.759 this just cannot be true. It was true, and there 127 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.680 were phone books. Actually they were in the Google or 128 00:06:58.720 --> 00:06:59.959 whatever were the white pages. 129 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:01.480 I opened it up. 130 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.839 A wonderful person answered the phone. I said, I am 131 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.360 a radio host. I am from Los Angeles. I have 132 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.160 a major show that I'm traveling with. I would love 133 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:10.160 to interview Miss. 134 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.360 Rice the next day. The very next day, we arrive 135 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:14.160 at her door. 136 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.040 Me carrying the only store bought version of Queen of 137 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.839 the Dan that I could get, which was a paperback, 138 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:23.759 And you answer, Lestatt, Louis and Claudia dolls are right 139 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:24.560 by the front door. 140 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.720 I'll never forget it. We go in and do the interview. 141 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.240 You were upstairs, you were nineteen years old. Who knows, 142 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:31.720 I say, And I don't want to know what you 143 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:32.600 were doing up there. 144 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.800 No, And all this artwork around us is by your 145 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.639 late husband Stan, he was there painting. You gave us 146 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.160 a grand tour, You showed us where Lasher was born, 147 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.720 and you dissed all this wonderful stuff. And I just 148 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.600 never forgot the generosity of spirit and sharing of the 149 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.120 time and meeting Anne Rice, which was pretty freaking cool. 150 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.360 So it's even more cool now to be sitting in 151 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.720 her son's apartment in West Hollywood, her openly gay son, 152 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.959 by the way, which I think is pretty. 153 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:04.199 Cool, open open as. 154 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:05.839 I was. 155 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:06.600 Successfully. 156 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:10.720 Yes, we got the toaster oven, so it's a really 157 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:12.839 great thing. It's sort of like a coming full circle 158 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.879 for me, at least in terms of interviews. I'm here 159 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:18.600 because they have a new book that's out and I 160 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.439 really want to talk about that so much so that 161 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:21.120 I dressed for it. 162 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:21.920 Uh. 163 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.319 And I also want to talk about just life as 164 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.279 the rices these days. First of all, thank you all, 165 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:27.759 and thank you for inviting me up to the house. 166 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:28.399 It's very nice. 167 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.439 They did a six hour gab fest yesterday. 168 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:32.159 Uh. 169 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:34.080 And we're the last thing they're doing, and we thank 170 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:36.759 them for that. You know, I sent you the itinerary 171 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:38.039 that we're going to talk about, but I want to 172 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.519 jump around because I do want to start with the 173 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:42.759 new book. On the way up here, I had a 174 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:46.639 friend of mine try to google how many mothers son. 175 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:48.679 Writing teams there are. 176 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.279 It was very hard to find a lot of resources 177 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:55.000 on that. There's not a lot of mother son or 178 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:59.279 father's son. Stephen King just did one with his son, Yeah, 179 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.960 with Owen, but there's not a lot of collaborations with family, 180 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.440 So you two are sort of unique in that. And 181 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:09.759 I wanted to ask because a lot of celebrity kids 182 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:12.840 try to either run from their parents or run from 183 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:14.759 their parents' job. You know, I don't want to be, 184 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.919 and yet you have not only embraced your mom in 185 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.000 a really great way, because you too remind me of 186 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.320 me and my mom before she passed, we were inseparable, 187 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.960 but you've also now written with her. 188 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:31.240 Who asked who to collaborate? How did that? Did you 189 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.559 ask him or did he say to you this would 190 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.120 be a good idea. How did that happen? 191 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:38.200 I asked him. I don't think Christopher would have ever 192 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.480 come to me and said, can I collaborate with you 193 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:43.639 on one of your series? Wanted to know he wouldn't 194 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.480 have done that, but I asked him. 195 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:47.840 Oh, I don't know. 196 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.720 It's kind of presumptuous, you know, and I think it's propriety. 197 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:53.240 Well, yeah, it's a little. 198 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:56.200 It's a little presumptuous, you know. I think also what 199 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.600 we were looking at, too, is that my books are 200 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.080 very different from hers, so if it was going to 201 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:04.919 be a combination, it needed to be the right formula 202 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:08.120 for the right project and this book, you know. Really 203 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.399 to answer the question of how we came to collaborate 204 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:14.759 working together on various Hollywood projects, specifically adaptations of her books, 205 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:17.759 is how this became to seem less like an extraordinary 206 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:18.639 or out of the Pales thing. 207 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.080 It's sort of like the the and it's the Vampire Chronics. 208 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.799 Are we allowed to YEA yeah, if the Vampire Chronicle, 209 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.279 if they're being made for television, finally, I hope that 210 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:29.320 you'll be happy with them. 211 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:31.919 I had interviewed executive producer. 212 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.360 I'm an executive producer. Chris is an executive producer, and 213 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.639 he's writing the scripts. So we are collaborating on that. 214 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.240 In so far as I read this, you've trusted your 215 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:44.559 other children to your chitle. 216 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:45.120 Yeah. 217 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:45.720 Absolutely. 218 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.759 But I mean even before that, we were working on 219 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:50.080 a movie version that didn't work out, thank god, because 220 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.559 it wasn't ultimately what we wanted to do with the project, 221 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:54.639 but we were working to make it the best and 222 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.039 Rice adaptation that it could be. So it paved the 223 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:59.240 way for us to work together on a book because 224 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.759 I think at the stake are higher for Hollywood adaptations 225 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.679 in collaboration because there's so many other people you have 226 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.120 to collaborate, right, whereas with the book, it's the editor 227 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:07.440 and talk. 228 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:08.240 About high stakes. 229 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:12.240 In reading about this new book coming out, the fans 230 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:14.480 were clamoring they wanted more of Ramsey. 231 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:16.039 And eighty nine. 232 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:17.399 I believe it was when I read that book, or 233 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.600 was it it was eighty nine eighty nine when I 234 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.799 read that. I still don't understand the whole beef with Cleopatra. 235 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:25.759 Will get into that, but I read the sequel. Yeah right, yeah, 236 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:27.519 I gotta get to the thing. I got my hands 237 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:32.039 on that Thinguel. What took Was it just life or 238 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.120 was it not his time? 239 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.399 A number of things happened. I mean, there was a 240 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:38.279 lot of commotion at that time. My father died at 241 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:41.200 that time, right at the time when Ramses was on 242 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:44.559 the best seller list and I was working on the 243 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.360 Vampire Chronicles. The Queen of the Damned was my first 244 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.799 New York Times number one best seller, and that changed 245 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:52.440 our lives just really. 246 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:54.399 Queen of the dam was the first one of the 247 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:55.519 Chronicles to be number one. 248 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.799 Best thing it was, it was, and that was an 249 00:11:58.840 --> 00:11:59.919 amazing experience. 250 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:00.879 It's an amazing book. 251 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:07.960 And within a few years the movie was made, you know, 252 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:11.559 and that made that I always have to take some 253 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.799 time out after a movie. I've to absorb that, you know. 254 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:20.240 So all of those different things happened. James Cameron had 255 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.360 bought the rights really, you know, through a studio to 256 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.240 the first Ramsay's book, and he was going to make 257 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:27.919 a movie out of it. We'd talked on the phone, 258 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.120 I'd met him. He's a charming guy. But then he 259 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.000 made the Titanic, and the Titanic was a huge success, 260 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.159 and it just wasn't in the cards to come back 261 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.679 to this project. So all of those things kind of 262 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:39.240 it's all. 263 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:43.080 Very for us because we're here. This is typical Hollywood. 264 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.360 This is how projects get shuffled and then. 265 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:46.080 Get made Sure. 266 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.879 Took them thirty years to make Antelope, to have things 267 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:51.440 fall into place to where she could actually get. 268 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.519 To that's really, that's really it. I mean, I was 269 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.399 free to write it in anytime, always keep the literary 270 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.200 rights on anything. But all that was going on in 271 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.799 my mind, and then I reread the book and I 272 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:04.639 found I wanted to do something new, So I did 273 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:07.759 the Wolf Gift books. But I thought, maybe if I 274 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.279 invite Christopher in on this and he wants to do it, 275 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.440 maybe he'll have fresh ideas about this and he'll certainly 276 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.720 bring fresh energy and we can we can do something 277 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:16.960 with it. 278 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.759 When she called and said let's do this with the Mummy, 279 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.639 with that particular book with Ramsey, what did you think? 280 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.480 I thought it was very exciting. But I thought it 281 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.679 was a tremendous responsibility because the book doesn't have charge 282 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.480 to vote in fans it does, and it's like nobody 283 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.720 wanted me to muscle in and make fifty percent of 284 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:34.840 it at Christopher Rice novel because up until that point, 285 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.399 Christopher rice novels had been mostly contemporary, gritty crime thrillers 286 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:40.440 with a lot of gay characters and some political themes 287 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.600 in them, but nothing historical, nothing period unless you're counting 288 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.639 one flashback scene to the sixties historical, you know which, 289 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.679 So there was nothing like invoking Edwardian atmosphere and detail 290 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:51.200 and all that sort of. 291 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:52.919 Stuff, and fans get very possessive. 292 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.200 Those are all reasons why I wouldn't do it alone. 293 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.600 To do it in collaboration with Mom, that makes sense. 294 00:13:58.600 --> 00:13:59.039 As a writer. 295 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.799 I'm curious how it were, and then we'll move on 296 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:02.799 from it. Bed I'm really I'm curious because I used 297 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.279 to co write with a writer. But really what I 298 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.000 did is I wrote it, and then I gave it 299 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.240 to her and she added some flavor, and then I 300 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.240 changed it a little bit more, and then we turned 301 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:11.399 it in. 302 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:13.919 But that was our process. That's how we did it. 303 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.480 What was your process? How did you to merge together 304 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:18.000 to write it? 305 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.879 Well, we sat down together at a table much like 306 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.679 this one, with a lot of caffeine and some cats 307 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:25.120 on the periphery. 308 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.519 And some relatives and the sketch track. 309 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.480 The sketch She loves the sketch pad and felt detail 310 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:33.000 because I think it's make a nap. 311 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.559 I can see in the sketch pad, and I need that. 312 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:41.960 I see music. It's like they're like mountain ranges to me. 313 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:46.159 When I do shows, I have computers, iPads everything. I 314 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.080 need a piece of paper. I need to write out 315 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.559 my segments. I need to write out teezers. 316 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.200 Because my active writing it out is also part. 317 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.279 Of the Often don't even go back to the map. 318 00:14:57.919 --> 00:14:58.720 Got it in your head? 319 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:00.960 No, But but that was the first part of the answer. 320 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.480 So we had that big intensive meeting and then she 321 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:05.320 had the faith in me to go off and write 322 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.840 a complete draft on my own. Was going to happen, 323 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.480 to plot the beats the island, And then she pulled 324 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.679 that draft apart. We sat down again and then I 325 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.639 went off and wrote a second draft and she did 326 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:17.919 the final pass. And I think the final pass was 327 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.639 key because we really that was the last opportunity. We 328 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.200 had to make sure this was truly a book that 329 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:25.960 continued on the themes and the promises of the first one. 330 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:27.399 And I think it does. 331 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.879 It's almost like you were a chef and you were 332 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:34.840 the head cook, and you assembled the ingredients and got 333 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:38.519 the base going and then came in with the seasonings 334 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:40.799 and the flavorings and the things that make the dish 335 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:44.639 the dish. That's that's really quite cool. I want to 336 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.120 ask you you tell the story. In fact, it was 337 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.279 read to me last night. You have a lot of fans, 338 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.080 both of you do, and I said, I'm bring up 339 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:55.600 to the rices to interview them. People were fainting. I 340 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:58.480 think it were about you. People faint around me. 341 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.399 Just out a correl girl here, he's here. 342 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.000 But you were quoted about being a fish out of 343 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.240 water in New Orleans when you got there from San Francisco. 344 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:11.240 That's one of the quotes in the media. You know, here, 345 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.240 I was suddenly a polo shirt wearing whatever in the 346 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.879 middle of Orleans. When I visited you, you were very 347 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.840 entrenched in Orleans, and you even owned the convent at 348 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:21.559 the time as well. 349 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:24.320 I did the whole block, the whole block city block. 350 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.679 What was it that made you come to the West Coast. 351 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.559 Well, two things. Christopher moved back out to the West Coast. 352 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.480 He'd been born in northern California and it was really 353 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.799 his home California. He was much more Californian than a 354 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.000 Southern boy. He moved back out, and my husband died 355 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.360 and I was alone in that vast house. There was 356 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:47.360 no son, you know, coming in and out with his friends. 357 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:53.039 There was no husband. He was gone, and I realized 358 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:54.919 I wanted to be out near Christopher. 359 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:55.559 I really did. 360 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.919 And also, I've spent many, many years of my life 361 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:58.879 in California. 362 00:16:58.960 --> 00:16:59.080 Right. 363 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.919 I lived in northern California for years, and at this 364 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.680 point I've lived in California longer than I ever lived 365 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:10.160 in anywhere. Yeah, it's righted, Well, sure, it's my home. 366 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:13.079 It's influenced New Orleans has influenced all of my writing. 367 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.160 But I've also I came to California for the first 368 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.960 time at four years old on a train with my mom. 369 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:24.200 We stayed in Echo Park area, you know, visitor our aunt. 370 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:28.119 I remember La really well. I remember the places we went, 371 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.599 the things we did, so it was natural to come 372 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.000 back out here. Now if he'd moved to Bangladesh. I 373 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:34.200 might have had second thoughts. 374 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:37.680 Let's talk two things I love to talk at parties, 375 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:43.839 sex and politics and religion, because these are themes of 376 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:47.400 your books. One of the Wikipedia things they say about 377 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.640 the original Ramses, it was interesting to me they talked 378 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:52.240 about sexual fluidity. 379 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.680 The sexual fluidity of. 380 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:58.759 Rice's characters are continued in this book because of course 381 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.200 they see Lestott and Louis's sexually fluid, and so I 382 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.720 guess they saw some of the characters in Ramses as 383 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:06.599 sexually fluid. 384 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:08.359 Sexual fluidity is a. 385 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.640 Big topic nowadays, a non binary gender and all this 386 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:16.839 kind of stuff. You have written your characters, even characters. 387 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.759 Back in the day. I don't want to say it's 388 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.240 sexually ambiguous, but they sort of. 389 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.559 Follow their hearts and their passions and wherever their passions lead. 390 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:28.319 So how do your characters fit into this sexual fluidity 391 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:29.839 conversation that's going on. 392 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.680 I have real trouble remembering that I have a gender. 393 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.359 I have never felt comfortable being talked about as a 394 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.960 woman or identified as a female. 395 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:50.119 I justin neither. But it happens miss your beard croatia. 396 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.079 But it's something I've never been comfortable with. And when 397 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.200 I started to write, I didn't even think about it. 398 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.319 I didn't even think about gay overtones to Louis and 399 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.640 the Stot. I simply wrote about them in the way 400 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.400 that seemed natural to me. And I remember a brilliant man, 401 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.119