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Speaker 4: That you love May, but now it's nineteen nineteen.
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Speaker 6: and Roll History Show. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the
Speaker 6: Rock and Roll History Show and Hudson River Radio. I'm
Speaker 6: Brian Horowitz. Tonight we're gonna be talking about musicians who
Speaker 6: were successful and then changed careers, either by choice or
Speaker 6: maybe not so much. We'll find out. But before we
Speaker 6: hop in, as always, allow me to introduce all of
Speaker 6: the cranbones who are joining us here tonight. First and foremost,
Speaker 6: from the Richter Observatory, he figured out that the longest
Speaker 6: drum solo ever was twelve hours, played by the kids
Speaker 6: sitting behind him on his last flight to England. Neil
Speaker 6: Richter is here.
Speaker 7: Hey, everybody, should I say?
Speaker 6: And the host of Paranormally Yours. She only sings in
Speaker 6: the car when it's going in reverse. She's a backup singer.
Speaker 6: Gl Nuklem is here.
Speaker 4: Oh hell, I mean hello.
Speaker 6: And from the silver screen she saw a vegan, a
Speaker 6: yoga student, and an atheist walk into a bar. She
Speaker 6: only knew because they told everybody within the first two minutes.
Speaker 6: And it's Mercedes Kent is here.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so true.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, everybody, and joining us from his upstairs bathroom.
Speaker 6: He is ready to accept an airplane from any country
Speaker 6: willing to give him one. He'll also take a boat,
Speaker 6: a jet ski or an ATV, but no East scooters
Speaker 6: because those are ridiculous. John Kelly's back with us.
Speaker 2: Hi, John, Hey, Brian, Hey, everybody, good to be here,
Speaker 2: and I'll gladly accept that plane as long as somebody
Speaker 2: else pays for the games.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 6: And last, but not least, the host of Shaving Cream,
Speaker 6: she decided to download the Titanic movie. It's sinking right now,
Speaker 6: Barbara vielle Is.
Speaker 8: That just sums up everything, right pretty much.
Speaker 6: Everybody's having a rough weekend, which you know, but we're
Speaker 6: here to have a good weekend, all right. It was
Speaker 6: the following week. Yeah, I hear you, but what can
Speaker 6: we do. We're just gonna make the most of it tonight.
Speaker 6: We're gonna have a good time. But I thought before
Speaker 6: we been recently we talked about if you remember, monitoring
Speaker 6: systems and like what the performers here on stage versus
Speaker 6: what the audience heres? And Guns and Roses click tracks,
Speaker 6: we talked about the click tracks and all that. Yeah, well,
Speaker 6: Guns and Roses had a little thing that kind of
Speaker 6: made the rounds. It's been a bad month for drummers
Speaker 6: because Zach Starkey is back out. We're a little behind
Speaker 6: the times on this.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So Guns and Roses has a new drummer, Isaac Carpenter,
Speaker 6: and they were doing a show in Japan and he
Speaker 6: started playing the wrong song. So Axel Rose is trying
Speaker 6: to correct him. So it's a great example of he's
Speaker 6: talking into his mic and everybody on stage can hear,
Speaker 6: but the audience can't and all. So let me play
Speaker 6: a clip of what happened in Guns and Roses a
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 9: No bad obsession, Bad obsessions?
Speaker 6: Can Isaac not hear me? Somebody answer me.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 9: I can barely hear whoever's talking, all right.
Speaker 10: My check for dub, my check for.
Speaker 7: H.
Speaker 6: So now they're all back on the right track. But
Speaker 6: I thought that was a great example of the kind
Speaker 6: of stuff we were talking about with oops.
Speaker 8: Wow talking about marching to the beat of a different drummer.
Speaker 6: H yeah, but that was That's the point is that
Speaker 6: it wasn't a hot mic that you know, you got
Speaker 6: your monitor engineer controlling what everybody's hearing on stage in
Speaker 6: front of house shuts off axls mic, so you didn't
Speaker 6: hear that wrong song whole thing going.
Speaker 4: On there, and that person did their job.
Speaker 6: And they did their job.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 6: I don't know who let that clip out, but that's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, stuff happens. Even when you've been playing for
Speaker 6: forty something years, you're still gonna have mistakes up there
Speaker 6: and all that. So I thought that would be something
Speaker 6: entertaining to share with all y'all. So let us hop
Speaker 6: it hop in tonight to our career change topic. Barbara,
Speaker 6: you are going to lead us out tonight.
Speaker 8: Okay, So for musicians who changed careers. My song choice
Speaker 8: for this topic, I'm gonna mention it in just a bit.
Speaker 8: It's by a musician fred Neil born Frederick Ralph Morlock
Speaker 8: Junior on March sixteenth, nineteen thirty six, in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 8: His family moved to Saint Petersburg, Florida in nineteen forty two,
Speaker 8: where he started to sing while attending first grade, later
Speaker 8: learning guitar in sixth grade. He served two years in
Speaker 8: the Navy and was discharged in nineteen fifty five. He
Speaker 8: married and divorced several times. And I loved reading all
Speaker 8: these names of all these super women he was married to,
Speaker 8: but most notably at least to me, because I recognized
Speaker 8: the name. His second wife was Elaine Berman, who later
Speaker 8: married Tony Orlando. Fred Neil composed and recorded my song
Speaker 8: choice Everybody's Talking in nineteen sixty six, and I can't
Speaker 8: say the title of that song without my New York
Speaker 8: accent coming out, so I apologize for that. So it
Speaker 8: was recorded in sixty six, but it actually wasn't released
Speaker 8: until nineteen sixty eight on his self titled album, and
Speaker 8: the song became a hit when it was covered by
Speaker 8: singer Harry Nilson in nineteen sixty nine. It reached number
Speaker 8: six on the Billboard Hot one hundred and won a
Speaker 8: Grammy after being featured in the film Midnight Cowboy.
Speaker 1: So before we.
Speaker 8: Continue, let's listen to the original Fred Neil recording.
Speaker 5: Everybody is talking head me. I don't hear what they're saying,
Speaker 5: only the ecless. Oh my mind. People stop in steering,
Speaker 5: I can't see the paces. Holdly the shadow. Who's out there?
Speaker 5: I'm going with the sun, you shine in through the
Speaker 5: poor it ring.
Speaker 4: Go in?
Speaker 5: Were the weather suits my clueses banking off of the northeast.
Speaker 5: When you see down on the.
Speaker 7: Summer breed.
Speaker 11: Snipping over the old shine like stone.
Speaker 5: I'm going in where the sun keeps shining air through
Speaker 5: the boy and ring, go in where the weather shoots
Speaker 5: my cloes baking after the northeast, when say, laying on
Speaker 5: a solar breed skipping over the ocean like stone. Ye,
Speaker 5: everybody else talking at me, can't hear what the same
Speaker 5: old many headles on my mind. I'll let my love her.
Speaker 12: Do.
Speaker 6: I let you my love.
Speaker 9: I will let you.
Speaker 13: My love her.
Speaker 12: So.
Speaker 8: Fred Neil had been interested in dolphins since the mid
Speaker 8: nineteen sixties after visiting the Miami Seaquarium. He had moved
Speaker 8: to Woodstock in nineteen sixty nine, but left there in
Speaker 8: the mid nineteen seventies. After co founding the Dolphin Research
Speaker 8: Project in nineteen seventy, dedicated to stopping the worldwide capture, trafficking,
Speaker 8: and exploitation of dolphins, he had increasingly spent more time
Speaker 8: on the Dolphin Project and gradually disappeared from recording altogether,
Speaker 8: and many of his early nineteen seventies recordings remained unissued
Speaker 8: and unreleased. In June nineteen eighty seven, he was involved
Speaker 8: in a car accident that took the life of his girlfriend,
Speaker 8: and he passed away on July seventh, two thousand and one,
Speaker 8: from cancer. And the reason I chose this particular artist
Speaker 8: is because while researching all the various musicians, I found
Speaker 8: this website that had all these musicians that changed careers
Speaker 8: and what they changed to and I found this one
Speaker 8: to be like the most intriguing. I thought this was
Speaker 8: really really cool. And the other thing, yeah, the other
Speaker 8: thing that really really caught my eye that just I
Speaker 8: guess a nerd like me would notice this that his
Speaker 8: given name Frederick Ralph Morlock, the last name Morlocke. That
Speaker 8: was the name of the creatures in HG. Well's Time Machine.
Speaker 8: They were called the Morlocks. If you remember they had
Speaker 8: no that was his born name. He changed it to
Speaker 8: Fred Neil, So I kind of liked the fact that
Speaker 8: he picked Neil, but I would have kept Morlock. I
Speaker 8: would have changed my name in Neil.
Speaker 4: Or make it a hyphenated last name Neil dash Morlock.
Speaker 6: No, just make your first name more in your last
Speaker 6: name Locke.
Speaker 4: Hey, whatever works.
Speaker 8: So that was like two things that just like pulled
Speaker 8: me in. Was the moral lock thing and the dolphin thing. Yeah,
Speaker 8: well that just sucked me right, And that was it.
Speaker 6: Dolphins and the traffic and well I started thinking ace
Speaker 6: Ventura and then you said he died from cancer, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, then I can't drop that line right after.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well that's that's it.
Speaker 4: So like that, that's a.
Speaker 6: Pretty drastic career change. That's certainly I would say it's
Speaker 6: a pretty drastic career.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like the song. It was a nice dreamy cop. Well,
Speaker 2: well obviously we've heard it performance.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was very soothing. I really did like it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, good lead off, Thank you, Barbara, Gail,
Speaker 6: you're up.
Speaker 4: Thank you. And apparently I am not up on current
Speaker 4: events in certain ways because I found out I messed
Speaker 4: up with my choice. Uh, oh yeah, yeah. As a
Speaker 4: kid in like middle school, I adored Kat Stephen. I
Speaker 4: still love his music. I thought he left the industry completely,
Speaker 4: but apparently his son a few years ago talked him
Speaker 4: back into coming back into secular music. He had a
Speaker 4: religious conversion at one point, and it's amazing because Okay,
Speaker 4: his father was Greek Orthodox, his mother was Baptist. He
Speaker 4: was born and raised in London. They sent him to
Speaker 4: Catholic school. Earlier in his career, he was into Zen Buddhism.
Speaker 4: Handed up having a major, major spiritual overhaul at one
Speaker 4: point later in his life, in nineteen seventy seven, he
Speaker 4: converted to Islam and that's when he leave up doing
Speaker 4: secular music for several years. There is so much, so
Speaker 4: many facts about Kat Stephens. He was born Stephen Dimitri Giorgio.
Speaker 4: He went right after his conversion, he went by Yusuf
Speaker 4: Islam and now he just goes by Yusuf. He's a
Speaker 4: British singer, songwriter and musician. In his whole career, he
Speaker 4: has sold more than one hundred million records and has
Speaker 4: more than two billion streams. His music varies from folk, pop, rock,
Speaker 4: and later in his career to Islamic music now it
Speaker 4: was for twenty years he did only music which met
Speaker 4: strict religious standards, meaning as now, I don't know a
Speaker 4: lot about Islam, but there are some Muslims that say
Speaker 4: music at all is harahm, it's forbidden. So I learned
Speaker 4: something I didn't even know there was any music considered
Speaker 4: acceptable or hellal in Islam. So the song I Chose
Speaker 4: is something I've always loved. It wasn't released as a single.
Speaker 4: It was from his album Catch Bull at Four and
Speaker 4: it was released on the twenty seventh of September in
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy two. He recorded it in May nineteen seventy
Speaker 4: two in various different places Studio The Manor Studio in Oxfordshire,
Speaker 4: Chateau de Ruvi in Eruvilla, France, Morgan Studios in London.
Speaker 4: The whole album is almost forty minutes long, and the
Speaker 4: song that I chose because I love love, love love
Speaker 4: love it is called Angel. See let's have.
Speaker 7: A listen.
Speaker 14: See slang the Angel and sell them Eve and stuff,
Speaker 14: cancel the windows upfer you Ne's out of offer you
Speaker 14: Nehver's a house that crystal little little meding your soul
Speaker 14: so patiently avoiding before y'all used to be whole boy,
Speaker 14: y'all he used to the hole, the sheer.
Speaker 13: Wrists up the water Belave dimondlong the shore and discermritism,
Speaker 13: who watch the motion, the cellar door, the breath be wall,
Speaker 13: the fire, dear man, the part bisiness to magicians, after Dancer,
Speaker 13: the lot and the Dancer.
Speaker 3: To the park side.
Speaker 14: Her clothes are maid of rainbows and twenty thousand kids
Speaker 14: shine through the spaces off fur gold dun ogre.
Speaker 6: Here it's our fur gold ogre head.
Speaker 14: Oooh my baby, I want you and on my line
Speaker 14: fasse awhere fine come jumps will follow you forever.
Speaker 9: If your muny everywhere, if yous me everywhere, He who
Speaker 9: like the NATO and stands in its suck.
Speaker 14: Down through the windows of rivers of the Doctor, rivers
Speaker 14: of ac nivers.
Speaker 4: That song never fails to make me feel just joyous
Speaker 4: and happy and all is right with the world. I
Speaker 4: just love that. Rumor had it that he partly wrote
Speaker 4: it about the c s Ea the Ocean, and rumor
Speaker 4: had it that he also wrote it about Carly Simon,
Speaker 4: who he was in a relationship with for seven months.
Speaker 4: I think in the seventies. Now, I asked my colleagues
Speaker 4: here to listen to the song and see if they
Speaker 4: could figure out what the background singers are singing. Do
Speaker 4: any of you have any idea?
Speaker 6: It says, who's going to sign for this? Ups sign
Speaker 6: for this?
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 4: Actually, we'd like.
Speaker 8: To talk to you about your car's extended warranty.
Speaker 5: Here you go.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a bit of a trick question, actually, because
Speaker 4: on December eighth, twenty twenty two, he was interviewed about
Speaker 4: that very question, and he said, they are made up words.
Speaker 4: I wanted to sound like an Armenian chorus. Boom dala saqua,
Speaker 4: boom dalles qua.
Speaker 8: Where did he get Armenian chorus from?
Speaker 6: Who knows?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's like so was specific.
Speaker 6: Then again, who's gonna say that doesn't sound Armenian.
Speaker 4: An Armenian person, right?
Speaker 6: Maybe? Yeah, odds in your favor, you're gonna get away
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 1: But the Armenian person would have to actually think it's Armenian.
Speaker 7: Right, right?
Speaker 4: And I don't offhand know anybody who's like first generation Armenian.
Speaker 4: So anyway, the album Catch Bullet four, which was actually
Speaker 4: his sixth studio album, was well His album was well
Speaker 4: received both commercially and critically. Rolling Stone was happy with
Speaker 4: the gorgeous melody and orchestration, while simultaneously disappointed by the
Speaker 4: lack of a single track comparable to Morning Has Broken
Speaker 4: from Cheezer and the Fire Cat. But I think it's
Speaker 4: a beautiful, gorgeous song and it just makes me very
Speaker 4: very happy.
Speaker 6: I can see what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a kind of kind of
Speaker 2: a feel good, kind of a lift, uplifting, you know
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 6: It's very joyous.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: Excellent, all right, thank you, Gail.
Speaker 4: That's my that's my somewhat erroneous choice.
Speaker 6: No, I think it counts. I think it's twenty year
Speaker 6: pause and then coming back. I think I think you're
Speaker 6: okay good. Yeah, all right, We're gonna take a real
Speaker 6: quick break and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Speaker 2: Ah Ry.
Speaker 6: And welcome back. We are going to hop right back
Speaker 6: into career changes with John. What do you have for us? John.
Speaker 2: Okay, tonight I selected a song from a British band
Speaker 2: which is still out there today. This one comes from
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three and the song is called Things Can
Speaker 2: Only Get Better. It was a Northern Irish well, it
Speaker 2: is a Northern Irish band called d rem As in
Speaker 2: d Semi colon r e a m or dream. It's
Speaker 2: what's interesting about the song is I need to say
Speaker 2: this right from the get go. I can't stand it, okay,
Speaker 2: So I just need to let everybody in radio land know.
Speaker 2: But this is not about the song, okay, but I
Speaker 2: do want to play the song because of the theme
Speaker 2: of tonight's show, So keep that in mind, please, Okay,
Speaker 2: Thanks and feel free everybody out there in radio land
Speaker 2: and my colleagues here at Hudson River Radio to tell
Speaker 2: me if you love it, you hate it, bash it,
Speaker 2: praise it, whatever, I'm you know, whatever, bring it on.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it actually became, according to what I found
Speaker 2: here on the BBC of all things, a defining British
Speaker 2: political anthem. And it was a bit of a sleeper hit.
Speaker 2: It did reach the top of the charts in the
Speaker 2: UK and it got pretty high on the charts in
Speaker 2: the US. For a short period of time too.
Speaker 6: Believe it or not.
Speaker 2: However, it's just I just it's it's not one of
Speaker 2: my favorites. If you were British in the early nineties,
Speaker 2: you loved it. But I'm not British, not Northern Irish.
Speaker 2: I'm just a guy from New Jersey who doesn't like
Speaker 2: the song. So, Brian, why don't we play it? And then?
Speaker 2: But before you play it again, what I want you
Speaker 2: to do when you listen to the song, see if
Speaker 2: you can pick up the keyboards and we'll leave it
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 9: Brian, you can my path, you can wear Mauss shoes.
Speaker 13: Then you too.
Speaker 6: But maybe.
Speaker 5: You ain't never gonna feel this way.
Speaker 13: You ain't never gonna know me.
Speaker 7: But I know you.
Speaker 6: Singing there that bad a can only get better?
Speaker 10: No, only get that.
Speaker 9: You'll be see you, damns me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do to tease me.
Speaker 3: Not to day.
Speaker 8: Can only get better, nonly get No, only get they.
Speaker 13: Get on a minion.
Speaker 10: No, I know that, Dad's no, they get better. Sometimes
Speaker 10: lose myself, I lose time.
Speaker 4: And I can't see the.
Speaker 10: Jez she said on the lad.
Speaker 1: But brid just as you go to too Fa, I
Speaker 1: got the person to.
Speaker 15: Word and then you sit walk my friend with my shoes,
Speaker 15: talk like that.
Speaker 3: I'm big into the thing, cannot play.
Speaker 12: Can you?
Speaker 3: So I cannot get.
Speaker 13: I cannot make get.
Speaker 3: You anything.
Speaker 6: Show me bred you do this and agree, and.
Speaker 10: You've shown me.
Speaker 13: I'm just nothing to do this.
Speaker 9: See I look at things now, you die.
Speaker 3: For the one.
Speaker 5: Everything.
Speaker 3: Excuse me? Fuck your man when you.
Speaker 6: See you do like that cop and into everything.
Speaker 1: You cannot lead. You cannot.
Speaker 3: The way that I cannot. I cannot help me get
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 6: It's you a little lighter up there, you know?
Speaker 2: No, okay, I things can only get better by d
Speaker 2: dream whatever you want to call it. So my take
Speaker 2: on the song is I was telling my colleagues here
Speaker 2: while I was playing, it's kind of like one of
Speaker 2: those coming of age late eighties movies and the song
Speaker 2: you hear when the credits are rolling, and it's just
Speaker 2: it's not that they can't sing, they can't play, it's just,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's kind of a tired theme.
Speaker 6: But the kind of song where you're getting up and
Speaker 6: walking out of the room like at the end of
Speaker 6: the movie. Yeah that you're saying.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Can I just say that John hates this song.
Speaker 4: I've heard worse.
Speaker 7: Now, but you're right.
Speaker 12: I mean it sounds to me like so eighties and
Speaker 12: it was like so done, yeah, yeah, nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: You know what, YB hashett I regurgitate it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: One of the homework assignments I gave everybody out there
Speaker 2: on radio land was to just kind of make no
Speaker 2: of the keyboards, because the keyboards. The keyboardists for this
Speaker 2: particular band was also the keyboardist for a band called Dare.
Speaker 2: His name is Brian Cox, known today in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five as Professor Brian Cox. Mister Cox was studying physics
Speaker 2: towards the end of his time with the band, and
Speaker 2: he decided to leave to get his PhD in particle
Speaker 2: physics as one does, yes, and to study at the
Speaker 2: CERN super Collider as well. And he so he went
Speaker 2: from keyboarding for these late eighties and nineties kind of
Speaker 2: British pop bands going on to a career in physics.
Speaker 2: He currently is a what is it, He's a professor
Speaker 2: at the University of Manchester and he also he's become
Speaker 2: a bit of a guy who kind of makes science
Speaker 2: easy to understand and if you google his name, Professor
Speaker 2: Brian Cox, not the actor. You can see all kinds
Speaker 2: of videos and he talks about planets and he talks
Speaker 2: about the speed of light and traveling, and it's just
Speaker 2: he's utterly fascinating in his delivery.
Speaker 6: He also looks.
Speaker 2: It's really funny because he looks like a British rocker.
Speaker 4: He does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the long hair and those British features.
Speaker 2: That just he looks like a British rocker. But he's
Speaker 2: known for books like why does E equals MC squared?
Speaker 2: The quantum Universe and things like that. He also his dissertation.
Speaker 2: I want to know if anybody out there would like
Speaker 2: to read his dissertation. It's something that I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: going to be something you're going to enjoy for some
Speaker 2: light reading. It was double it was oh gosh, it
Speaker 2: was double diffraction disassociation at large momentum transfer.
Speaker 4: No, thank you.
Speaker 8: So he went such a monkey right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll wait for the cliff notes.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's one hundred and twenty one pages long.
Speaker 2: I actually went through it. No, I didn't read it,
Speaker 2: but I did go through it.
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll make a movie of it.
Speaker 6: Maybe I play the song over the closing credit. But
Speaker 6: he is a so he left.
Speaker 2: Periodically he dabbles in music, but for the most part
Speaker 2: he's a professor at the University of Manchester studying and
Speaker 2: researching particle physics and working at the CERN Hadron Collider.
Speaker 2: So you can't get farther from music than that, or
Speaker 2: can you.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 12: Well, it sounds like he's a pretty smart guy. And yes,
Speaker 12: fact that he left that band proves the point that
Speaker 12: he was a smart guy.
Speaker 6: Exactly exactly. He interesting things about the guy he.
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety one he earned a Bachelor of Science
Speaker 2: with first class honors in physics and then after d
Speaker 2: Dream disbanded in nineteen ninety seven, although they're back and
Speaker 2: today he completed his Doctor of Philosophy in high energy
Speaker 2: particle physics at the University of Manchester with the thesis
Speaker 2: double diffraction disassociation at large momentum transfer say that two
Speaker 2: times is fixed? Yes so, But today what's fascinating is
Speaker 2: is that he's a brilliant mind. But he's known for
Speaker 2: bringing science to the masses to better understand it, and
Speaker 2: he does all kinds of talk shows and he writes
Speaker 2: books that people can understand, and which is what he's
Speaker 2: really famous for today, not for his keyboarding with d
Speaker 2: Dream and Dare. So that's my presentation here tonight. It
Speaker 2: was from small beginnings to a brilliant professor doing cutting
Speaker 2: edge research in particle physics. As I was saying before,
Speaker 2: he is the Sheldon. He is the modern day, real
Speaker 2: life Sheldon Cooper.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a that's a career switch. Yeah, yeah, that's Google.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 8: I've seen him on TV and I didn't know about
Speaker 8: the musical beginnings, and I always wondered why he had
Speaker 8: that stupid beetle haircut.
Speaker 6: Is an old style.
Speaker 2: He's like an eighties rocker or kind of like an
Speaker 2: eighties po I wouldn't silly rock, but kind of like
Speaker 2: an eighties pop rock kind of a guy who is
Speaker 2: a brilliant physicist. They don't know how else to describe it.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting, as as Neilia pointed out, and he
Speaker 2: had the brains to leave the band. But you gotta it,
Speaker 2: just just you gotta wonder how. I wonder how people
Speaker 2: that brilliant, how they think, you know, you wonder how
Speaker 2: their brain processes information.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's only thinking about particles, not the whole thing.
Speaker 6: So he's just taking it a little bit out of time.
Speaker 2: Yes, very true. You know I'll give you that, Brian.
Speaker 2: You know I'll give you that. So that is my
Speaker 2: my thing tonight. It was Professor Brian Cox, formerly of
Speaker 2: the band's Dream and Dare. He went from a keyboardist
Speaker 2: in those bands to particle physics and advanced science.
Speaker 6: There you go. That was a good one. All right,
Speaker 6: thank you, John, buddy, you are up.
Speaker 12: Okay, Well, my subject for today's topic is drummer Terry Chimes,
Speaker 12: who went from being a drum smacker to a Crackerbacker
Speaker 12: chiropractor in real terms. But Terrence Terry Chimes worn in
Speaker 12: nineteen fifty six an English musician from London, and he's
Speaker 12: best known as the original drummer for the punk band
Speaker 12: The Clash, whose other original co founding members included Chimes,
Speaker 12: with Joe Drummer and Mick Jones both on guitars and vocals,
Speaker 12: Paul Simon and In on bass, and Keith Levine also
Speaker 12: on guitar. Now, both Chimes and Levine would leave the band.
Speaker 12: Keith Levine later formed Public Image Limited with ex sex
Speaker 12: pistol John Lyden, or as I like to call him,
Speaker 12: Johnny Rotten, my old pal. The Monter Commercial and Chimes
Speaker 12: would go back to the Clash to record their first debut,
Speaker 12: their self titled album. Now, after recording that album, Chimes
Speaker 12: would once again leave and he was replaced by longtime
Speaker 12: drummer Papara Hayden. So let's see if I can get
Speaker 12: this all straight for you here. Chimes played several stints
Speaker 12: with The Clash Now, the first one from July to
Speaker 12: November in nineteen seventy six. I guess that's when they
Speaker 12: founded the group. He left and he came back from
Speaker 12: January to April nineteen seventy seven, I guess to record
Speaker 12: the record, and he left, and then he returned in
Speaker 12: May of nineteen eighty two until February of nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 12: So we kind of flip flop with Topper, if you
Speaker 12: see what I'm saying now. It was during that last
Speaker 12: stint he was on a tour here in the US
Speaker 12: opening for The Who with the Clash, and that was
Speaker 12: the only time I got to see them one and
Speaker 12: only time seeing the Clash open for the Who at
Speaker 12: Chase Stadium. Now, Topper he had kind of been forced
Speaker 12: to leave the band for a while because he had
Speaker 12: sort of a drug addiction problem, so they got Chimes
Speaker 12: to come back. But before we go any further, let's
Speaker 12: check out the Clash. But the song I thought was
Speaker 12: pretty uh at propos for today. It's called Career Opportunities
Speaker 12: from the debut album of The Clash featuring Terry Chimes
Speaker 12: on drums, And we'll come back with the rest of
Speaker 12: the story after that.
Speaker 9: Jo diapp, I used to kick you up a dot com,
Speaker 9: the one that.
Speaker 5: Never man sick.
Speaker 3: All right, I don't want to know if I him
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 16: I have never stop this, but I want about black
Speaker 16: for you.
Speaker 9: Carry up one enough every job dieapp.
Speaker 3: I used to kick you up a dock covering.
Speaker 5: The one and never.
Speaker 10: Oh but.
Speaker 3: I'm even bad all the time.
Speaker 9: Bang onna have sucking Untrea shu Bang.
Speaker 14: Gonna have to take away my place.
Speaker 4: If I want to get.
Speaker 3: Them bake it.
Speaker 2: Wow, I got.
Speaker 6: The dog.
Speaker 12: Nev on.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 12: The Clash from their debut nineteen seventy seven sounds a
Speaker 12: little different from the combat rock days, but that's what
Speaker 12: they sounded like when they got started. With our topic today,
Speaker 12: Terry Chimes on the drums. Now if his tenure Terry
Speaker 12: Chimes tenure with the band was a little confusing. Hang on,
Speaker 12: this is gonna get even worse.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 12: The Clash's debut, as I said, was released in the
Speaker 12: UK in nineteen seventy seven, but it wasn't released here
Speaker 12: in the US until nineteen seventy nine. That was after
Speaker 12: their second album, Give Them Enough Rope had already come
Speaker 12: out here in the US in nineteen seventy eight, so
Speaker 12: it made their debut album was actually the second release
Speaker 12: here in the US.
Speaker 6: Is that weird tiy wymy have it?
Speaker 12: It's yeah, why, I have no idea, But probably because
Speaker 12: that English punk stuff and any of that wasn't really
Speaker 12: you know, the record companies.
Speaker 7: Were going out your brain, nobody wants.
Speaker 12: To hear this stuff. Well, I guess by nineteen seventy
Speaker 12: nine they were like, yeah, maybe they do. Anyway, In
Speaker 12: between stints with the Class you think that, you know,
Speaker 12: Terry Chimes actually had another you know, he did do
Speaker 12: other things. He played with Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers
Speaker 12: in seventy seven. Briefly he played with Generation X who
Speaker 12: Stinger was to become and was Billy Idol. That was
Speaker 12: in nineteen eighty to eighty one. He also played with
Speaker 12: Billy Idol for a while as a solo He was
Speaker 12: in the band Hanoi Rocks in nineteen eighty five and
Speaker 12: was on tour with Black Sabbath without Ozzie at that
Speaker 12: time in nineteen eighty seven and nineteen eighty eight, so
Speaker 12: he did have a you know, he went beyond and
Speaker 12: did have a pretty good career as a drummer. But
Speaker 12: it was during this time with Black Sabbath that Chimes
Speaker 12: first discovered the world of chiropractic. Now, you know, many
Speaker 12: drummers developed bad backs as a result of hunching over
Speaker 12: the drums over the kit for many, many years, but
Speaker 12: this wasn't the case with Chimes. Chimes was introduced to
Speaker 12: a chiropractor after a marathon game of bowling bowling during
Speaker 12: downtime with Black Sabbath. You know, they were just hanging
Speaker 12: out and they said, oh, why don't we go bowling?
Speaker 12: He had never don it, Well, great, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 12: he had never done it before, so he sort of
Speaker 12: overdid it. They played for like hours, so after it
Speaker 12: was done, he was hurting. So the band just said, well,
Speaker 12: we just happened to have a resident chiropractor on call,
Speaker 12: and you know, let's bring him in. And it not
Speaker 12: only relieved the pain in his arm, but it planted
Speaker 12: the seed in his head. Over the next few years
Speaker 12: to leave the music business and study to be a
Speaker 12: chiropractor himself in the hopes of giving that kind of
Speaker 12: relief from pain to others that the Black Sabbath chiropractor
Speaker 12: had given to him. And by nineteen ninety three he
Speaker 12: had established several practices throughout England and also became became
Speaker 12: a trained acupuncturist. And it's interesting to note that while
Speaker 12: he enjoyed partying like a rock star to some degree,
Speaker 12: he was also rather health conscious to begin with. He
Speaker 12: never smoked, he never really indulged in drugs, He was
Speaker 12: a vegetarian, and he actually gave up drinking entirely when
Speaker 12: he was only twenty six years old, so.
Speaker 7: He had the health thing going for a while now.
Speaker 12: In two thousand and three, Chimes was also inducted with
Speaker 12: the rest of the Clash as a member into the
Speaker 12: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, where he also praised
Speaker 12: todp ra Hayden during his acceptance speech. And by the way,
Speaker 12: he occasionally he does go back and play a few
Speaker 12: you know songs of the.
Speaker 6: Band now and then nice but everybody's on good terms.
Speaker 6: You don't hear that very often? Good Yeah.
Speaker 7: From a drummer to a chiropractice.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, these really are big career switches. Very cool. All right,
Speaker 6: thanks Neil. We're going to take another real quick break
Speaker 6: and we'll be back with two more right after this.
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Speaker 6: And welcome back, Mercedes.
Speaker 7: Up to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am ready. So Marky Mark is a thug
Speaker 1: or he was a thug and a rapper and now
Speaker 1: he's a movie star, so that's a career change. He
Speaker 1: was born in Boston and is the youngest of nine children.
Speaker 1: Is an older brother. Was making a name for himself
Speaker 1: as a rapper in the boy band New Kids on
Speaker 1: the Block, which Marky Mark joined but quit after a
Speaker 1: few months. He had twenty to twenty five incidents on
Speaker 1: his record with the Boston Police Department during his teen years.
Speaker 1: At thirteen, he was addicted to cocaine and other things,
Speaker 1: and by fourteen he had dropped out of high school.
Speaker 1: At fifteen, he had a civil action lawsuit filed against
Speaker 1: him for two instances of harassing African American children, which
Speaker 1: included throwing rocks and shouting slurs, which he had apologized.
Speaker 1: He has apologized publicly for several times. In nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: he began recording with Scott Ross, Hector Barrows, Anthony Thomas,
Speaker 1: and Terry Yanty as Marky Mark on the Funky Bunch.
Speaker 1: They had a hit on their first album with Good Vibrations,
Speaker 1: which hit number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 1: On your first album at that time, they shot a
Speaker 1: video where Marky showed off his body. As a result,
Speaker 1: he did a series of underwear edge for Calvin Klein
Speaker 1: that were displayed on billboards and on TV. They were everywhere.
Speaker 1: He also did a famous Vanity Fair spread for their
Speaker 1: annual Hall of Fame issue. The second single off the
Speaker 1: album was Wildside, which peaked at number ten on Billboard's
Speaker 1: Hot one hundred, and it is the song that we're
Speaker 1: going to hear in a bit. He went on to
Speaker 1: record with many different artists in many different styles throughout
Speaker 1: the nineties. As I said, he had a rocky past,
Speaker 1: and he was arrested charged with manslaughter, facing two years
Speaker 1: in jail, but only served forty five days and that
Speaker 1: was enough to turn his life around. A quote from
Speaker 1: him says, as soon as I began that life of crime,
Speaker 1: there was always a voice in my head telling me
Speaker 1: I was going to end up in jail. Three of
Speaker 1: my brothers had done time, My sister went to prison
Speaker 1: so many times I lost count. Finally I was there,
Speaker 1: locked up with the kind of guys had always wanted
Speaker 1: to be like. Now I'd earned my stripes and I
Speaker 1: was just like them, and I realized it wasn't what
Speaker 1: I wanted at all. I'd end up in the worst
Speaker 1: place I could possibly imagine, and I never wanted to
Speaker 1: go back. First of all, I had to learn to
Speaker 1: stay on the straight and narrow. In twenty fourteen, Wahlberg
Speaker 1: applied for a pardon from the state of Massachusetts for
Speaker 1: his convictions. According to BBC, the debate about his suitability
Speaker 1: for a pardon raised difficult issues, with the argument on
Speaker 1: both sides being far reaching and complex. Wahlberg later said
Speaker 1: he regretted the attempt to obtain the pardon. In nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three, Mark Wahlberg made his acting career debut in
Speaker 1: a TV movie called The Substitute, and after his appearance
Speaker 1: he dropped the Marky Mark name. He went on to
Speaker 1: do many more films which earned him positive reviews, such
Speaker 1: as The Basketball Diaries, Fear, which was his first starring role,
Speaker 1: Boogie Knights, The Big Hit, Three Kings, Planet of the Apes,
Speaker 1: The Truth About Charlie, which was directed by Jonathan Debbie
Speaker 1: who was a local Rockland person, The Italian job i
Speaker 1: Heeart Hackebees The Departed, which gave him an Oscar for
Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor, and he was considered for a role
Speaker 1: in Broke Back Mountain, which he turned down because he
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable with the sexians. He also starred in two
Speaker 1: films in the Transformers live action film franchise, Transformers Age
Speaker 1: of Extinction from twenty fourteen and Transformers The Last Night
Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen, and More and More and More. In
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, he topped the list of the world's highest
Speaker 1: paid actor. In twenty eighteen, his salary of one point
Speaker 1: five million for the reshoots for All the Money in
Speaker 1: the World stirred a gender pay gap controversy, and as
Speaker 1: his co star Michelle Williams had received less than one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the same reshoots, Wahlberg donated the money
Speaker 1: to the Times Up Initiative, a movement against sexual harassment
Speaker 1: co founded by Williams. He was also executive produced Entourage,
Speaker 1: which is loosely based on his early years in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Boardwalk Empire, had to make excusing, how to make it
Speaker 1: in America and Ballers. So let's hear this Marky Mark song.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 6: American, A beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Let me introduce you all to the wild side.
Speaker 16: Annie was a high school cheerleader, palms and Bobbie socks.
Speaker 7: And no girl was gonna come from time.
Speaker 16: Everybody was on the line, all the fellas singer Nikka
Speaker 16: went down and tales about love and lust and truck.
Speaker 16: But Annie took it all in stride because deep inside
Speaker 16: and he had aspirations. Besides that, she had expectations. Wanted
Speaker 16: to be a chemical engineer, making fifty to fifty five
Speaker 16: thousand a year. A first year of college was a success,
Speaker 16: but along comes Billy, possessed and obsessed. He took Annie
Speaker 16: on a fatal's date to show the things that made
Speaker 16: harp It's accelerates, and he took a head breathe two
Speaker 16: short preps.
Speaker 6: One for life, the last for death.
Speaker 16: Now she's going to form a valedictorian ended up becoming
Speaker 16: a top of four story in to wash up dreams,
Speaker 16: shattered bride, or because Zanny took a hit on the
Speaker 16: wild Side.
Speaker 7: Ron had enough of.
Speaker 16: Being broke every day, saying to himself, that's gotta be
Speaker 16: a better way, because nine in the five wasn't worth
Speaker 16: the headaches.
Speaker 6: So Ron figured out a fastest.
Speaker 7: Way to make money.
Speaker 6: Before you know it is a rich Man gold on
Speaker 6: everything O that's hand a brand new BMW a condo.
Speaker 7: Ron ended up for John Do.
Speaker 15: A body was found in the alley, but never claim
Speaker 15: full of bullet holes, with none in the blame. Vron
Speaker 15: became another victim of hump side because he chose to
Speaker 15: Walk on a wild Side.
Speaker 1: Okay, so of course Wahlberg sings all of the vocals
Speaker 1: and heavily samples on Walk on the wild Side. Try
Speaker 1: lou Read.
Speaker 7: I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not much of a rap fand but I don't know,
Speaker 1: I kind of like that. Maybe it's because I love
Speaker 1: the lou Read sound.
Speaker 12: So I was gonna say, you could, you could? You
Speaker 12: could read the phone book over that baseline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So people often confuse Matt day and with Mark Wahlberg,
Speaker 1: and I know I do, because really you don't never No,
Speaker 1: I think it's confusing. Because of that, they both agreed
Speaker 1: that whenever someone thinks they're the other, they have to
Speaker 1: be on their very best behavior so as to not
Speaker 1: ruin either his reputation. Matt will even sign autographs Mark
Speaker 1: Wahlberg and Mark will sign Matt damon some of the
Speaker 1: things confused.
Speaker 12: Really, yeah, I thought the class were confusing.
Speaker 1: Some other things you might not know about in me
Speaker 1: as a third nipple. Some movies have opted to digitally
Speaker 1: airbrush it out, and I can't hear that. He had
Speaker 1: tickets on Flight eleven on September eleventh, but the group
Speaker 1: decided to attend a film festival in Canada before heading
Speaker 1: back to la and chartered to Flight North instead.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: He started the Mark Wahlberg Youth Foundation because of his
Speaker 1: troubled youth to give back to troubled kids. Mark Wahlberg
Speaker 1: bought an eight million mansion Beverly Hills in two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine and then spent five years perfecting it. It
Speaker 1: is thirty thousand square feet and there's an indoor gym,
Speaker 1: a home theater, a full basketball court, a putting green green,
Speaker 1: and a water park.
Speaker 6: Well of course in his house.
Speaker 4: Of course, at first, instead of putting Green. I thought
Speaker 4: you said potting green and I got all excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, me too, not inside the house, I don't
Speaker 1: know about the outside. So yeah, he went from from
Speaker 1: punk to wrap I mean punk in the old sense
Speaker 1: thug these days, to rapper to model, oh, majorly successful
Speaker 1: Hollywood star.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole pardon thing. I can see both sides.
Speaker 6: But I'm like, you did it? So yeah, just because
Speaker 6: you're famous, does it? I don't know? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: would your average Joe be able to get a pardon
Speaker 6: for that?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 6: No, true?
Speaker 1: So so true? You know, as a Hollywood star, could
Speaker 1: you maybe.
Speaker 6: Are you saying the rich and famous get special treatment?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 6: What I was trying to imply I kind of was, yeah,
Speaker 6: therein lies the problem.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So but good choice and yeah, all right, cool. One
Speaker 6: more to go.
Speaker 7: Here we go.
Speaker 6: I am going to talk about Jeffrey Baxter, better known
Speaker 6: as Skunk Baxter. He was born in nineteen forty eight
Speaker 6: in Washington, DC. He has never disclosed where the Skunk
Speaker 6: nickname has come from. He started on drums at age
Speaker 6: eleven in a band called King Thunder and the Lightning Bolts,
Speaker 6: which must now be stolen or resurrected, because that is
Speaker 6: one of the funniest names, like a chest of condition. Okay,
Speaker 6: King Thunder should come after the lightning bolt, then I
Speaker 6: would think on.
Speaker 7: A Saturday Morning cartoon, right, yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: Like you know, and special guests Josie and the Pussycats like.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 6: So in high school, Skunk worked in a Manhattan music
Speaker 6: shop where he got to meet Jimmy Hendrix, and he
Speaker 6: claims to have sat in on bass for a show
Speaker 6: or two as Jimmy slowly became a front man member.
Speaker 6: Jimmy played in bands and then wound up being upfront.
Speaker 6: He studied journalism at Boston University, and while there he
Speaker 6: worked in a music shop as a guitar tech and
Speaker 6: amp repair man. He is very much a techy kind
Speaker 6: of guy, as we will see in a little bit.
Speaker 6: His road to fame started in nineteen sixty eight with
Speaker 6: the psychedelic band Ultimate Spinach, which I had never heard of.
Speaker 1: I like that, Uh huh, Neil you know that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, of course Neil would know.
Speaker 1: I have surprised.
Speaker 6: I know, Neil's gonna jump in with more.
Speaker 7: Facts on this one for no other reason just the name.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So after that he moved to Los Angeles to find
Speaker 6: session work, and there he became a founding member of
Speaker 6: Steely Dan. He played the recognizable solo on their biggest hit,
Speaker 6: Ricky Don't Lose that number. That is Skunk Backster playing that.
Speaker 6: In nineteen seventy four, Steely Dan decided to change direction.
Speaker 6: They stopped touring. They wanted to focus on using session
Speaker 6: musicians and just recording in the studio. So Skunk jumped
Speaker 6: over to the Doobie Brothers. Not too bad he While
Speaker 6: he was there, the lead singer Tom Johnston was hospitalized
Speaker 6: with a stomach issue. So Skunk recommends did Michael McDonald
Speaker 6: and his distinct voice to come and fill in. And
Speaker 6: it was such a good suggestion, and it worked out
Speaker 6: so well that Michael McDonald got hired full time even
Speaker 6: after Tom Johnston came back to the band. Skunk left
Speaker 6: the Doobie Brothers in nineteen seventy nine and went on
Speaker 6: to do way too many projects to list here. But
Speaker 6: I did mention that he was a techi kind of
Speaker 6: He is a techie kind of guy. He is still around,
Speaker 6: very smart guy. He was interested in music recording technology,
Speaker 6: which at this time was starting to evolve into the
Speaker 6: digital domain, going from real to real into digital stuff.
Speaker 6: So he became interested in the hardware and the software
Speaker 6: that was being used, and specifically in data compression storing
Speaker 6: large amounts of data in smaller volume, which is kind
Speaker 6: of standard now with our iPhones and laptops, iPads, all
Speaker 6: that stuff, squashing down a lot of information into a
Speaker 6: smaller amount of data. The biggest user of this kind
Speaker 6: of tech was the military, and his next door neighbor
Speaker 6: happened to be retired engineer who worked on the Sidewinder
Speaker 6: missile program and hooked him up with some magazines and
Speaker 6: journals on the topic of data compression and the missiles
Speaker 6: and all that kind of stuff, and he got so
Speaker 6: into it and so involved he took it upon himself
Speaker 6: to write a five page paper on how the aegious
Speaker 6: missiles could be converted from a ship based weapon into
Speaker 6: a missile defense system. He submitted his paper to his
Speaker 6: congressperson and then found himself to be the missile to
Speaker 6: be the defense consultant with security clearances for his congressperson,
Speaker 6: just because Wow sat down and decided to write a
Speaker 6: five page paper on his own. Now I have sat
Speaker 6: down and written four page papers on my own, but
Speaker 6: I have never written a five page paper.
Speaker 8: Just are you underachiever?
Speaker 4: I know, I know.
Speaker 12: So.
Speaker 6: In nineteen ninety five, Skunk was nominated to chair the
Speaker 6: Civilian Advisory Board for Ballistic Missile defen He worked on
Speaker 6: contracts for the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency. He consulted for
Speaker 6: the US Department of Defense and for several defense contractors.
Speaker 6: Made a lot of money doing this, and in two
Speaker 6: thousand and five he joined the NASA Exploration Systems Advisory Committee.
Speaker 6: And the list goes on and on and on. Because
Speaker 6: he was interested in all this and did his own
Speaker 6: research and wrote his paper, he credits his way of
Speaker 6: thinking for all these opportunities. So let me read you
Speaker 6: a quote that he said in an interview. We thought
Speaker 6: turntables were for playing records until rappers began to use
Speaker 6: them as instruments. And we thought airplanes were for carrying
Speaker 6: passengers until terrorists realized they could be used as missiles.
Speaker 6: My big thing is to look excuse me, My big
Speaker 6: thing is to look at existing technologies and try to
Speaker 6: see other ways they can be used, which happens in
Speaker 6: music all the time and happens to be what terrorists
Speaker 6: are inarably good at so I give him credit learning
Speaker 6: about something and finding a new way to basically take
Speaker 6: off the shelf technology and put it to use in
Speaker 6: a new way. Now sharp left Turn. The Doobie Brothers
Speaker 6: were on the sitcom What's Happening in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 6: Do you guys remember the sitcom What's Happening? I caught
Speaker 6: it in reruns as a kid. The show ran from
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy six to nineteen seventy nine. It became more
Speaker 6: popular afterwards in after school syndication hours your local TV stations.
Speaker 6: A lot of times they would have like after school
Speaker 6: program and then do sitcom reruns and then kind of
Speaker 6: go into the evening news and game shows, that kind
Speaker 6: of thing. That growing up, that's where I saw What's Happening.
Speaker 6: It was on like in that after school kind of hours.
Speaker 6: The show was based on a Black La neighborhood. The
Speaker 6: main characters were Raj, Dwayne, and Freddie, known as Rerun.
Speaker 6: Their high school was portrayed as the Doobie alma mater,
Speaker 6: which made no sense because they're not the same age
Speaker 6: and they were not from there. But the idea for
Speaker 6: these episodes came from the band's publicist David Guest, who
Speaker 6: we would know now better is mister e Liza Minelli.
Speaker 6: He's married to her. Oh but he did a great
Speaker 6: job getting the band Exposures to new audiences because the
Speaker 6: Doobie Brothers were not in the target demo. For anybody
Speaker 6: watching What's Happening On the first run on the show,
Speaker 6: one of the Doobie Brothers goes up to rerun and says, hey,
Speaker 6: glad you came back, and rerun said came back. I'm
Speaker 6: still here because he'd never left high school. He just
Speaker 6: got left back.
Speaker 13: So many times.
Speaker 6: They teach the cast about the bad side of bootlegging concerts,
Speaker 6: kind of like a pre napster thing, you know. They
Speaker 6: talked about how people would sneak in tape recorders and
Speaker 6: take money away from these working musicians. It's a two
Speaker 6: episode arc called Doobie or Not doo Be and it's
Speaker 6: worth watching. Oh gosh, it's so tongue in cheek and
Speaker 6: so cheesy. It is the best line, the best it's hysterical.
Speaker 6: The best line from the show is which doo Be
Speaker 6: you be? Some of the Doobie Brothers who are still
Speaker 6: around still get that people come up to them and
Speaker 6: say which do be?
Speaker 11: You be?
Speaker 6: And they just they just go with it. So back
Speaker 6: to a little bit later. Skunk was also at the
Speaker 6: forefront of hearing protection, especially for rock musicians, Like at
Speaker 6: the top of the show we listened to, you know,
Speaker 6: monitor versus front of house kind of stuff. Well, when
Speaker 6: he was up and coming, this was when you started
Speaker 6: getting the wedge monitors on stage, which were super loud.
Speaker 6: The concerts were super loud, your amps were super loud.
Speaker 6: And he was one of the few that took steps
Speaker 6: to protect his hearing. If you see videos of him,
Speaker 6: he's wearing headphones, He's wearing hearing protection like you would
Speaker 6: wear at a gun rain while he's up on stage performing.
Speaker 6: He was one of the very few to do that.
Speaker 6: And in nineteen ninety three he actually did a TV
Speaker 6: PSA about protecting your hearing, which I remember seeing, which
Speaker 6: I thought was cool. So I had the audio from that.
Speaker 6: Let's give this a listen.
Speaker 17: You know, if you're like me, you listen to a
Speaker 17: lot of rock music. But you know, constant exposure to
Speaker 17: loud music can lead to permanent hearing loss, Like after
Speaker 17: a concert when everything sounds muffled and your ears are ringing,
Speaker 17: just imagine if it always sounded like that. So protect
Speaker 17: your hearing. My friends laughed at me for years for
Speaker 17: wearing headphones on stage, but they're not laughing anymore. Rock
Speaker 17: and roll is here to stay and make sure your
Speaker 17: hearing is too.
Speaker 1: Sponsored by the Houseier Institute.
Speaker 6: I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 7: The more do you know, yeah, the more I didn't
Speaker 7: hear it.
Speaker 6: That's from your years of sitting behind the kit and
Speaker 6: in front of all the ants. That's what happens. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I thought that was cool. So you had a guitarist,
Speaker 6: multi instrumentalist who goes to missile defense and hearing protection,
Speaker 6: and in all fairness, he never really gave up music.
Speaker 6: He's still playing and he still plays every once in
Speaker 6: a while. But I would say that's a pretty big
Speaker 6: switch to go into the missile defense business. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: made a bunch of cash doing it. And I went
Speaker 6: down the rabbit hole. Just last night. He did a
Speaker 6: lecture series and I watched the whole lecture on YouTube
Speaker 6: and problem solving and you're changing your way of thinking
Speaker 6: and all that, and he's I can see why he
Speaker 6: was hired as a consultant because kind of like Brian Cox,
Speaker 6: he can kind of simplify things and explain it to
Speaker 6: make it understandable. And he would also go into these
Speaker 6: what's that Neil, Yeah, yeah, I mean he even tells us,
Speaker 6: He tells the stories of going into to these contractors thinking,
Speaker 6: you know, he walks in like a hippie, so they
Speaker 6: they dumb it down for him and he goes, oh,
Speaker 6: and then he you know, sit so man, yeah, with
Speaker 6: the delta V over the this and then and then
Speaker 6: like they just go, we're gonna show you a different
Speaker 6: presentation and then kind of change gears so good for him.
Speaker 6: As far as songs, I went with the Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 6: I went with the song Taking It to the Streets
Speaker 6: because Skunk plays on it. It features Michael McDonald's who
Speaker 6: Skunk brought on board, and it's one of the songs
Speaker 6: that they played on What's Happening. So let's give a listen.
Speaker 3: M you don't know me, You telling me the things
Speaker 3: about it do for me. I'm not know my.
Speaker 10: Taking it to streets no money, take.
Speaker 9: This myselves to around you will find m.
Speaker 3: Robert people in tucular Chi and finanties the spell.
Speaker 4: My you telling me the things you wanted to for.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 3: Jussa take jus, who are you telling me the.
Speaker 4: Things you do?
Speaker 3: Love me?
Speaker 13: I do.
Speaker 6: Last, So I do suggest hopping on YouTube and watching
Speaker 6: what's happening with the two episodes with with the Doobie Brothers.
Speaker 6: I'm sure it's on there. If not, it's got to
Speaker 6: be somewhere at least the clips of it. It's pretty funny,
Speaker 6: it's pretty it's such a crossover, and the Doobies are
Speaker 6: not actors, and you could say, and everybody's just feeling awkward,
Speaker 6: and it's it's great, it really is. It's just it's perfect.
Speaker 6: So there you have it. Career switches, everybody had really
Speaker 6: interesting choices. We talk about sharp turn career switches, and
Speaker 6: none of these were because they had to you know,
Speaker 6: you see your stories that you know, all right, like
Speaker 6: their second album flopped and they got dropped by their
Speaker 6: label and they had to find something to make it.
Speaker 6: These were all by choice, which I thought.
Speaker 8: Nobody had a horrid ketchup packets and eat.
Speaker 6: Them for yeah exactly. I mean they may have, but
Speaker 6: not because they had to say yep, cool, all right,
Speaker 6: No final thoughts from anybody before we pull the plug.
Speaker 1: Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 6: We're all around cool. All right, good choices, Crambones. Thank
Speaker 6: you for all your hard work as always, and thank
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