Speaker 1: Welcome to softcore history.
Speaker 2: Welcome into soft four history. It is officially Halloween whore Nights,
Spooky Month, Spooky Month.
Speaker 3: It's a game up to play with my fucking kid
all the time about He's like that he's spooky Ghost
and I'm just like that all that game and tales
is me going. He just runs away indefinitely.
Speaker 2: That terrible father you here is, of course, Rob Fox,
and I'm your host for the week, damn Rejester. And
we're gonna start out Spooky Month with a two man
show because why not.
Speaker 3: Well, the third guest is the ghost that only we
can hear.
Speaker 2: It's the ghost of Jake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the ghost of her old co host didn't
die in Hurricane Helene.
Speaker 2: Haven't heard a single thing from him. I don't know
if that's from the hurricane or the Florida Gators.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm just saying he a natural disaster went his way.
He lives in a trailer park. He's dead.
Speaker 2: It's kind of appropriate for today's topic. Oh really, yeah,
what aege? What a segue. We'll get to that in
a minute though. Thanks for tuning in. If this is
your first time joining the show, welcome in. Hello, We
have a Patreon, Patreon dot com slash software history where
you get two additional episodes every week, one like this
and sometimes another like this on So it's Wednesday, Friday
is the release schedule. Well, we do game shows, we
have call in shows, we have a voicemail line.
Speaker 3: Some sketches. I'm trying to get back on that horse,
but it's just it's hard to write ay week. I
apologize for adding Saturday Night Live last night, being like, yo, what.
Speaker 2: I could rot better sketches. It's because it's with my penis.
I can, but it's hard. I can fart out a
better sketch.
Speaker 3: Probably put it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 2: That's what we do, hard work. We fart into microphones
with our mouths here. Yes, yeah, gets gab gab gap.
I mean we ride a little bit. At least we
do better than most. We do a little better than most.
We do we all.
Speaker 3: I can't I guarantee you we put in more effort
than ninety percent of podcast, ninety five percent of podcast.
And if you're listening to this podcast and you think
to yourself, God, damn it, that's pathetic. There's no way
that's true. It is true, but it is pathetic. Yeah,
both can be true.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course our step dad, step uncle, whatever you
wanna call him, Dan Carlin, he puts in way more
work than we do. But it's softcore history, dude. We're
soft core history, not hardcore. But today we're gonna talk
about major storm. We're gonna talk.
Speaker 3: About I was hoping it was a trailer park, but we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna talk about a lighthouse as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, a haunted light house.
Speaker 2: No no, uh so three longshoremen or whoever the house
housekeepers or housekeepers?
Speaker 3: What was that? What was that Robert Pattinson movie called
just called the Lighthouse?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, with Fdafoe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what they were called because I
never thought so.
Speaker 2: This is a famous kind of case of three housemen okay,
going missing.
Speaker 3: The lightsman, lightsman, actually light keepers.
Speaker 2: Who is the keeper of the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, light keeper of the light sounds spooky, eerie.
Speaker 2: And of course it's all in Scotland.
Speaker 3: A lot of cliffs, a lot of fog.
Speaker 2: It was a Transatlantic steamer, the Arch Tour, that first
noticed something was wrong, something was astray. On its voyage
the Port of Leith from Philadelphia, the Arch Tour passed
the lighthouse on the Flannin Aisles on the night of
the fifteenth of December nineteen hundred.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is Titanic era, twelve years before. Yeah era.
Speaker 2: The crew saw a strange sight. The light was off.
Oh no, I.
Speaker 3: Thought it would be like that'd be a sweet way
to hang yourself in front of a lighthouse light.
Speaker 2: You just see you're just a silhouette of a hung
man and it just goes out to all the boats.
Speaker 3: What a drama queen that guy is. That's the way
to go. I mean, if you're gonna do it, hang
yourself in front of a lighthouse house, become just a
what do you call a finger puppet of just a
silhouette of you, burned into the.
Speaker 2: Ocean, traumatize like twelve people total.
Speaker 3: Do it wherever Disney Cruise goes by. Is there a
Florida lighthouse somewhere in Orlando? Yeah, where you can just
snap take a quick drop and a short stop where
Mickey Mouse ears as well. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: You want the silhouette to appear that Mickey hung himself
and maybe Goofy, maybe wear a Goofy mask and you
need floppy ears.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to time it because you don't want
to do it like in the middle of the night,
because then you'll be swinging. You won't stay in from
the light. You want to do it at dusk and
then you know by you you will be pretty still
by the time the light is doing its job. And yeah,
it's like a nighttime Disney cruise having like a little
Princess and the Frog Show.
Speaker 2: Just Toddler's children, Hm, Daddy, what's that? That's the way
to do it if you're gonna go in a lighthouse.
A few days later, the news was passed to the
Northern Lighthouse Board, who quickly dispatched a crew to investigate.
The relief vessel arrived at the island on Boxing Day
and the captain, Jim Harvey, signaled with the ship's horn
and fired a flare into the sky.
Speaker 3: Would be like anyone there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three lighthouse keepers James Duquat, Thomas Marshall and William
MacArthur manned the outpost. Not one of them replied to
the signal, Right, so the fireflair would.
Speaker 3: Be like everybody good? And then I assume there's a
series of signals you can send back, like.
Speaker 2: Disease, stay away once friendly two's an enemy threes the sea.
Joseph Moore, one of the lighthouse crew who had been
on relief at the time, was sent to the shore
to investigate what they couldn't go themselves. He was the
guy they sent. All right, he's on the boat. He's like, no,
all right, you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you worked there, need the whole crew
to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Can you imagine if we showed up to the
studio something fucked up is going on inside. We don't
know what it is, and the cops there's already cops
there and they're like, hey, you work here, right, go in,
get you going? See he's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they did that at a school down
in South Texas. No one went in with the problem there. Well,
somebody tried. I think the parents tried to go in.
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, would not let him.
Speaker 3: Would love to go in.
Speaker 2: So Joseph Moore climbed the one hundred and sixty steps
up to the lighthouse and when he arrived, he discovered
the lighthouse door was unlocked. The clock on the wall
stood silent. It was it stopped, it stopped.
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you need to lock in islands
who's breaking in.
Speaker 2: The table was set for dinner, food was half eaten,
and a chair was flipped over, suggesting someone left in
a hurry. Okay, two of the three oilskin coats that
hung in the entryway were missing. It's only one hung,
only one remained. Moore found out only one living creature
in the lighthouse was still there. Dog a canary who
sat quietly in his.
Speaker 3: Cage had to be hungry. What's it eating?
Speaker 2: Canaries eat much?
Speaker 3: They got to eat it. I actually assume they have
like very fast metabolisms, probably need to eat all the time.
Like when is a bird not eating?
Speaker 2: I thought they only eat coal miners, that's why they're there.
Speaker 3: No, they eat gas. They keep the mines clear of
gas by eating the gas.
Speaker 2: That's why you keep the canary right to prevent a
gas leak.
Speaker 3: Read a book.
Speaker 2: So they're like trees, almost eat where they take in
all the dangerous gases and pretty oxygen.
Speaker 3: They're born out of trees. That's why you see birds
and trees.
Speaker 2: They It makes sense. Yeah, yeah, make for sense. Well,
I mean, what else would they be there for.
Speaker 3: There's no other reason they would ever be in a
tree unless they were born out of its branches.
Speaker 2: I did not take time to search further for I
only too well knew something serious had occurred. More later
reported I darted out and made for the landing. Moore
said his findings to the captain of the boat he
was on. Harvey sent another two sailors to shore, and
they and More began looking for signs of life.
Speaker 3: What he had to go all the way back to
the boat. It'd be like something fucked up happened here.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to because the boat, the boat knew.
Speaker 3: By the way, because he had to be like, it
seems like a real fucked up island trying to do Scottish,
but that just do Irish.
Speaker 2: It even knows that they're Scottish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the boat, island don't seem right to me, Boyle.
Let's send it to the one of Lark's there. He dies,
he dies, We.
Speaker 2: Leave now, sound like you have balls in your mouth
and that'll be well.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: The men turned their attention to the landing platform on
the west side of the island. Here there's plenty of
evidence that the island had recently been hit by a
massive storm. Okay, I can't think of a better time
with me and my boys riding out the hurricane or
giant storm in the college in a lighthouse.
Speaker 3: Didn't you have hurricane parties in college? We did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got hit I only think while I was
in school, we only got hit by like.
Speaker 3: A couple, only a couple. That's like one a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like it's Florida. I know what hurricane season happened. Yeah,
what hurricanes? I don't know.
Speaker 3: There are too many, Yeah, hurricane I mean, but there's
some big ones, right, you know.
Speaker 2: No, there was no like Sandy. Okay when I was
in school. Okay, got it, there is no Harvey.
Speaker 3: Hurricane season sounds like a fucking nightmare. Like it's like, oh,
it's not that.
Speaker 2: Big of a deal. It's kind of like when people
are afraid of it. Alligators. I'm like, they're just there,
I guess, except like I would paddle board in Lake
Claire at UCF on campus and there would just begeters
that swam like swam by you as you paddled. Fuck that,
just bumping your board.
Speaker 3: Fuck that. But like the hurricanes, it's not like a
tornado or tornado season where it's just like, oh, there
might be a tornado, but there's no a tornado like
that kills small town people. But like a hurricane, it's
just like a hurricanes covi it everybody's got to leave
town again, or got to board up the house again,
or like fucking when we were in the sandbags. Yeah,
like when we're in Florida for jakes.
Speaker 2: Why is it for hurricanes and snowstorms or any major
catastrophe or you know, natural occurrence, you have to load
up on eggs, milk and bread.
Speaker 3: Eggs seems like the worst thing to load up on.
Speaker 2: But bread goes bad easily, like very quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's not for free milk, milk spoils immediately. Yeah,
I guess that's for the children. Really, you should just
be getting peanut butter and water and like.
Speaker 2: Baked bean dry goods.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Good.
Speaker 2: That's a miserable existence. That's why I like when people
are like I'd be hyped for the apocalypse.
Speaker 3: Shut the fuck.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I would not. No, do you like
just eating can tuna?
Speaker 3: Like? Oh no, Actually, what I would do is I
would kill and expertly skin a deer and then eat
venison steak. No, you fucking wouldn't. You would be murdered
or emaciated and fucking starving. You would Oh god, I can't.
Speaker 2: I would be so pissed right now because I have
so many steaks in my freezer that would go bad.
Speaker 3: No, you just have a steak feast.
Speaker 2: I guess I would just have to eat all the
steaks at once.
Speaker 3: I mean literally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But what is the appeal of Like we need
a for bread, we need milk.
Speaker 3: The bread makes a little sense just because it's like carbs, right,
it's good energy quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes more sense than just milk.
Speaker 3: Milk has got to drink. It's gotta be kids. That's
gotta be a fully a kid thing. But my kids
don't even I guess they drink milk a little bit.
Speaker 2: But your kids better drink milk. Just haven't like just
chug muscle milks like here and there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we put yeah, we put protein powder
into their milk.
Speaker 2: Already first because you use formula.
Speaker 3: So I know, don't you eat colosstrum or drink it.
Speaker 2: I've tried it. Yeah, it's okay, it's weird. It is
kind of fucked up how they get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they steal it from baby cows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I mean is like so much of
it left.
Speaker 3: They steal it from the mothers of baby cows who it's.
Speaker 2: Four and then only produce it for like forty eight
hours or something.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean, I don't know how long cows
produce it, but like women only produce it for like
twenty four to forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna assume cows do the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, why not, maybe even less time because those
cats cowser, you know, cow comes out. It's walking. It's good.
It knows how to walk immediately, it's good to go.
Speaker 2: Iron railings on the side of the path have been
bent and twisted out of shape. Part of the railway
track had been torn from its concrete moorns and a
huge rock way in more than a ton have been displaced.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like they got hit by a water
spout like a tornado. There's there's no other storm, no
other storm that hits that fast that would have them
shit in their pants and running around and moving shit
like that.
Speaker 2: Turf had also been ripped up from the tops of
the cliffs two hundred feet above sea level. There was
no sign of the three keepers. Poor fellows. They must
have been blown over the cliffs or drowned trying to
secure a crane or something like that, declared Captain Harvey,
and his report to the Northern Lighthouse Board or something
like that.
Speaker 3: Or you know, try to secure crane or who knows
they're dead? Love captain.
Speaker 2: Arriving on the island on December twenty ninth, the boards
Superintendent Robert Murehead began an investigation into the keeper's disappearance.
Merhead knew all three of the missing men well. Examining
the oil skin that had been left behind, he concluded
it belonged to William MacArthur.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, you know, of course he knew them. Well,
how how many people could have possibly worked there? Four?
Speaker 2: I guess in Scotland he's probably overseas.
Speaker 3: All the Yeah, it's actually there's probably a lot of
eighthouses up there.
Speaker 2: After going over the wreckage on the Western Landing, mer
heead speculated that Marshall and Ducat must have headed out
into the storm to try to secure the equipment stored there,
and when they did not return, your Head surmised that
MacArthur must have ventured out to try to find them,
your Head.
Speaker 3: But without his jacket. Yeah, yeah, okay, so he just.
Speaker 2: Like in a panic or a rush. Was like, ah,
I fucket, where are they?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: He included his official report. Then an extra large c
had rushed up to the face of the rock and
had gone above them, coming down with an immense force
that had swept them away completely. So they got hit
by a tidal wave, just a big old wave. Yeah,
they got hit by a big fat random wave. I
mean that's what he believes, a rogue wave. I mean,
rogue waves are a thing. Have you read about rogue waves?
But I think they think that's like a Bermuda Triangle thing.
They might be like rogue waves in there or something
like that. I thought the Bermuda Triangle just interferes with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, compass stuff gets sucked with. But like the
why would a ship sink.
Speaker 2: Like a traditional NBA defense, But.
Speaker 3: Why would it? Why would a ship kill?
Speaker 2: Jackson ran to bring me to the triangle?
Speaker 3: Right triangle offense? But yeah, why would a ship sink there?
It was because it was just like a weight random
waves was pop. I I don't know, it's a thing somewhere.
Speaker 2: I thought you enter a wormhole and just go to
another galaxy.
Speaker 3: Maybe Okay, I feel like it's just Australia.
Speaker 2: Win could not have been the cause because the direction
of the wind had pushed the men towards the island
rather than out to sea. Your head's report wasn't the
end of the story, however, you know, it's not an
open and shut case, Johnson.
Speaker 3: So the wind was blowing out the island, so it
couldn't have.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have pushed them off, Okay, cliff, but they
would have pushed them inland.
Speaker 3: So the wind was fucking shit up. The wind made
a wave. The wave fucking smacked the shit out of
the island, destroying a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of huge wave comes down sweeps. And that's his belief, Okay.
Speculation of something else soon arose.
Speaker 3: Bancheese? Was it Bancheese?
Speaker 2: Some believe that. Yeah. In the years after their tragic disappearance,
the rumor surrounding the lighthouse keepers only intensified. Now. Flann
And Isle Lighthouse was built in eighteen ninety nine, only
a year before the men disappeared, state of the art
lighthouse on an island that had been associated with strangeness.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, this is an otherwise like deserted No
one lives here. This is an empty, fucking island that
you just have to go out and live on a
remote life, like you're in fucking northern Canada or something.
Speaker 2: Listen, there are people there, sheep okay, and sheepherders. Oh,
there are the people there, just sheep. Any are there
herders or no? Occasionally they're like show up to check
on them. Yeah, I guess they have no pressure checking in.
What else are they gonna do, like jump off the cliff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have no predators, I suppose.
Speaker 2: So the sheepherders refuse to stay on the island. They
would go back and forth to like check on the
herd Yeah, but refuse to stay on the island after
dark as they feared the various ghosts and phantoms that
looked there.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, so it's a haunted island.
Speaker 2: I can picture it in my head.
Speaker 3: Was it the Isles lighthouse? Mm hm oh yeah, okay,
I just saw a picture of it. Not that big,
to be honest, m Flanning Isles. Yeah, all right, there's
the picture. Yeah, I mean they're this is a fucking
nothing there.
Speaker 2: No, that's exactly what I thought. It's just grass, It's
a rock in a lighthouse.
Speaker 3: It's like, uh, if you need a yeah, looka it's ridiculous.
If you need like a visual, think about where Rey.
Speaker 2: I think everyone knows, Like, just think Scottish rock with grass.
Speaker 3: It's like where Ray found Luke Skywalker.
Speaker 2: And I don't think enough people saw those movies.
Speaker 3: They made a billion dollars. Enough people saw the movies.
Speaker 2: Theories were soon doing the rounds of the men being
gobbled up by a giant sea serpent or whisked away
by a huge seabird.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, well, nothing's eating the sheep, so why the
fuck with the guys I've been eating?
Speaker 2: Well, we don't know that. Maybe maybe they are eating
the sheep.
Speaker 3: The shepherds know it. They keep a count their fucking livelihood.
Speaker 2: You lose one or two. What's that?
Speaker 3: If a car dealership had a sea serpent eating cars,
they would know exactly how many fucking cars were gone.
Speaker 2: Is the car gonna tell them? It's like the Pixar.
Speaker 3: You just count at sundown and count again at sunrise.
Speaker 2: Cars just go missing. Man, they have a mind of
their own.
Speaker 3: I hate that movie so much. My kids watch it
all the time. I fucking hate it. It's just like,
I know, you have to suspend your disbelief. But nothing
in that world makes sense.
Speaker 2: Sometimes there are cars and sometimes they're human cars, Like
it's how do car stuff? Or humans?
Speaker 3: Who? Who made you? Do you fuck?
Speaker 2: How is your powder?
Speaker 3: How do you propagate your existence? How did you come
into being? This is insane. I hate it so fucking much.
I hate cars. Whoever came up with that, like it
had to be like a Nepo rider like it. It's
just the worst story idea. I mean, it makes sense
that a child, a a dim child would like it,
I guess like my own children. But like, fuck, dude,
Oh it's corns. It's the world, but they're corse.
Speaker 2: They just needed to get Larry the Cable Guy into
a movie. Yeah, cash in on his popularity for that
like five year run.
Speaker 3: Larry the Cable Guy. Also, like it doesn't get talked
about enough that is he does. He just wear like redneck.
Speaker 2: Face, Yeah, hick face characters.
Speaker 3: It's hick face.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's from like the Northeast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's he's not like it's.
Speaker 2: It's misrepresentation of who he is.
Speaker 3: Is a horrific but yeah, cars sucks, dude, I fucking
hate that movie.
Speaker 2: One theory had the men leave the island by boat
to escape debts.
Speaker 3: Debts, Oh, fake your own death. I love that. I mean, look,
there are three, three blue collar guys working a job
off shore. They're pieces of shit and they probably do
owe money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them, all of them. I mean they
have no families really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they yeah, one of them.
Speaker 2: I mean imagine like working in a fucking boat or
working an oil rig. Now, it's that kind of crowd.
Speaker 3: They're basically like soft hand roughnecks in a way. Right,
do they even do? What do you do when you
work in a lighthouse? Do you just live there, make
sure the light's on? Yeah, you just sit there most
of the day.
Speaker 2: What else would you do?
Speaker 3: That's not the worst job, Just like I read books
and make sure the lights on at night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you have to talk to these other
two dudes.
Speaker 3: I would be like, yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 2: Do you think they were fucking?
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot of banging.
Speaker 2: They're probably banging.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of banging. There's just no yeah, there's
so much, so much banging.
Speaker 2: M M. So maybe I love triangle something going wrong,
going horribly wrong, But it's three dudes like just bang.
No women here, maybe preferred to be behind or in front.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone was a real queen about it.
Speaker 2: Somebody was definitely not in the position they wanted to
be in that Lucky Pierre.
Speaker 3: Well there's only one Lucky Pierre. Know, so they was
everyone fighting over the Lucky Pierre position.
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, somebody wanted to get spit roasted and well it's.
Speaker 3: Not spit roasted a lucky Pierre.
Speaker 2: Well I'm just giving way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can't rotate it be like the lighthouse
always spinning, you know what I mean. Yeah, take an
example from where you work.
Speaker 2: But also some guys, just one of them is probably
like I don't want to I don't want to be
in that position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or I don't want to be top. What if
he was, Yeah, yeah, he wanted bottom.
Speaker 2: Only he's like, I'm a power bottom through and through.
Speaker 3: Well, bottom is alpha, now that's the new Bottom is alpha.
Speaker 2: As long as you throw it back.
Speaker 3: Top is beta. Like you're so beta if you need.
Speaker 2: A top and then Lucky Pierre Sigma, Yes, Sigma's lucky,
but no, that doesn't make any sense because Sigma is
a lone wolf, right, so.
Speaker 3: You no, no, you're not a lone wolf as a
lucky Pierre.
Speaker 2: You are literally getting all these spoils.
Speaker 3: You're doing whatever you want. That's why it's Sigma.
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, all right, I'm glad we worked that out.
Another theory had them sprint away by the uh a
skeletal crew and a ghost ship.
Speaker 3: Oh like a like Pirates of the Caribbean. Like literal
a bode of skeletons came up. Yeah, okay, not spirited.
Speaker 2: Away, I'm sorry, not sprinted away, spirited away.
Speaker 3: He's ad spirited. I thought you did.
Speaker 2: I think I said sprinted whatever.
Speaker 3: Either way, Yeah, spirited.
Speaker 2: Away is not something you typically read on a day.
Speaker 3: To day baby. Also, spirited away sounds charming, right, like,
oh he came and spirited her away on a surprise vacation.
Speaker 2: You know he kidnapped yeah yeaheah, yeah, yeah that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah he they these these skeleton pirates, grab them and
murdered them, and you kidnapped them, made them slaves, I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, right, they're now part of the poop deck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're growing eight feet because if you join a
skeleton crew, though, do you have to become a skeleton.
Speaker 2: Or did you do agent?
Speaker 3: Just like all right, boys, you're not gonna like the
first few days. But we're peeling all your skin and
muscle off you.
Speaker 2: We gotta flee you alive.
Speaker 3: We're at a skeleton crew after all.
Speaker 2: But you'll get here to the rest of it. You
think that's where the term comes from?
Speaker 3: Uh no, okay, what I wish? Who?
Speaker 2: That is sick though to think of just like the
Pirates of the Caribbean. Just ghost ship shown up to shore,
like we got three new recruits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hop on.
Speaker 2: Some people even thought that the men have been kidnapped
by foreign spies to what end. I don't know. Eighteen hundred.
Who is Scotland. I guess the English.
Speaker 3: No part of the United Kingdom then, so they would
have been the Irish. Maybe the Irish. Maybe we're talking
nineteen hundred, so they're allied with France at this point.
I think Germans maybe, I guess Germans are or uh
not not Russians like Austrians. I'm trying to think of
central powers here in World War One.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not Germany.
Speaker 3: No, Germany would fuck with them? Yeah right, right, Germany
or Austria, Hungary.
Speaker 2: When you say fuck with you, it's confusing though. It's
like you can either be like fuck with you. Also,
oh fuck with like I fuck with you means I like, yeah,
I'm with you, or in other ways, yeah it's I
will fuck with you. The Germans want to materially harm
the United Kingdom and thus will be subverting you. Gotta
remember where I'm from, all right, Yeah I fuck him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 2: I'm down the clown. Another theory claimed that a fight
had broken up or broken out between the three. We
already went over that one, but one of the keepers
killed another while covering up the crime. The survivors were
swept out to sea.
Speaker 3: Oh that's too complicated. There's so many it's.
Speaker 2: The original theory, but now we're gonna add murder.
Speaker 3: Right, it's just like, oh, one accidentally killed the other,
then all three accidentally got swept out. Just that's just
what are the odds, that's not happening.
Speaker 2: But one of them was famous, I guess in his
circles for having a really short temper and for throwing hands. Okay,
he's very quick to just get to violence.
Speaker 3: He's just like, let's just yeah.
Speaker 2: And that was of course MacArthur, the guy who left
his jacket, The guy that left his jacket.
Speaker 3: So they kill him because he's a dick. Try to
toss him out to see get swept away. Everybody's gone.
Speaker 2: More doubt was cast on the official investigation with the
emergence of a log book supposedly containing several baffling entries
between the twelfth and fifteenth of December.
Speaker 3: There's always baffling entries. It's like the last three days
the diary. It's just like just weird shit. And you know,
like Dark when he was pushing Dark, when he was
able to sing to another how to ride your guy,
what he taught it's actually die he's dehydrated and concussed
and uli. Yeah, just holliginating nonsense. But sure, yeah, I
know he peered into another dimension. Actually is what what happened?
The aliens showed him.
Speaker 2: That was also another theory. They got abducted by aliens.
Speaker 3: That look, if you're gonna abduct somebody, who's gonna know this? Right?
Speaker 2: These are this is a soft target.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a soft.
Speaker 2: Target, rich environment, just a fucking lonely island.
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna be around for days. Just keep an alien
there to keep switching the light bulb. No one will
ever know.
Speaker 2: In the first entry, Marshall supposedly written that a great storm,
the likes of which we had never seen before had
hit the island. He continued that Ducat was unusually quiet
when the storm hit, and MacArthur, a big, burly man
known not to have a sensitive side, was weeping. He's
afraid of the storm. Okay, he was losing his mind.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: A second entry had all three men praying in the
eye of the montrous storm, and a third and final entry,
supposedly written on the fifteenth, states that the storm had
already passed and it was now calm. Okay, so how
are they getting swept away?
Speaker 3: Right? But that was the last entries to fifteenth How
are those baffling though? Baffling in that they don't add
up to why they're gone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because, I mean the fifteenth is the last day
they were there, right, And they said the storm already passed.
Speaker 3: Storm's God? What if it's the storm? Wrote that those entries,
was like Storm's God, wasn't me?
Speaker 2: I have an alibi?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That storm? Storm doctor to cook the books well.
Speaker 2: On hearing about the existence of these logbook entries, many
questioned the idea that the men had been swept out
to see if anyone had died. Surely whoever wrote the
fifteenth of December entry would have mentioned this. There had
to be another explanation. What do you think it was?
Speaker 3: Oh, for why there was no entry or.
Speaker 2: Uh what this log book says? Like essentially, what killed them?
Because it wasn't the storm?
Speaker 3: Oh, the logbook has an explanation for what killed them?
Speaker 2: No, I'm asking you, okay, as you take a very
important sip.
Speaker 3: Of my soacki margarito because you can't buy liquor on
Sundays in Texas. Uh, what killed them?
Speaker 2: Because I mean, it's clearly not the storm, right the
log book said, storm's gone.
Speaker 3: Ye, the hangover from the storm.
Speaker 2: The sheer will to survive was too strong, Like they
expended too much energy right surviving the storm that they
dropped it.
Speaker 3: Basically, the adrenaline was going so hard that the lack
of adrenaline in the aftermath the shadow of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a easier explanation. The logbook entries were
injected into the story several years after Marshall, Ducat and
MacArthur disappeared, and there's no evidence that the logbook ever existed.
Speaker 3: Okay, would there be a logbook at a probably a lighthouse.
Speaker 2: What else you gonna do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like official, like you gotta say, like
every day, what happened? I mean the people want to know.
Speaker 2: Turn light on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, turn light off? Like why would you make it
like a diary too? Like today MacArthur wept for hours,
Ducott was unusually silent. Light turned on. Seven oh two.
Speaker 2: Ducot, you gotta spice it up, it get born if
you were just like every day yes on weather Fair
dismissing both the fake logbook entries and the fancyful tales
of a sea serpent and a ghost ship. What are
we left with? Three theories have emerged over the years
that seek to explain the men's disappearance. The first is
based on the character of again William MacArthur. MacArthur was,
by all accounts, an ill tempered man who was quick
to settle an argument with his fist.
Speaker 3: Fucking dick.
Speaker 2: It has been speculated that he could have started a
fight on the Western Land in which led to all
three men fall into their desks from the cliff. I
buy it, so not even a wave, Yeah, just they
get into a tussle. You know, maybe one of the
guys is trying to break it up, and everybody all
just fall off the cliff like assholes.
Speaker 3: And then into the ocean and die swept away.
Speaker 2: Obviously, the bodies aren't gonna be found, right, although you know,
you would think the bodies would.
Speaker 3: Like something would be out there. Who knows, unless they
get eaten right away. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The second theory is that one of the men, again
probably MacArthur, murdered the other two, ditched their bodies into
the sea, and then threw himself from the cliffs out
of murder suicide. Okay, that's sexier.
Speaker 3: It's I guess, and I mean it falls back to Arthur.
They're banging, Yeah, they definitely bang. I think Macarthy wouldn't bottom.
Speaker 2: Well, he's surely a top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like a douchebag top. That's just like, no
nobody gets anything with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good boy, good girl, he calls them girl. Yeah,
good girl, good garter. While both theories add a level
of bloodthirsty juiciness to the mystery, there is no evidence
that either a fight or murders took place. It is,
of course perfectly possible for men and confined quarters to
rub each other the wrong way to the point where
they snap and all hell breaks loose, especially when one
of them has a history of violence. But without bodies
or a crime scene to examine, these two theories will
forever remain mirror just kind of allegations.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you would like prove anything here,
like it like, it's weird that that other coat wasn't there,
although is it? Because MacArthur sounds like a dickhead, So
maybe he's like, I don't need no fucking jacket, you bitch.
Speaker 2: I'm a man.
Speaker 3: Yeah you Oh, it's a cold, little bitch. I'm just
wearing my fucking sweater if I need. If I get
cold out there, I'll skin a goddamn sheep and put
that wool on. And if the shepherd comes and it's
like you killed my sheep and took its skin, I'll
beat the shit out of that shepherd.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: They're like, just put on that. I don't even want
to listen to you talk. I don't care. Just put
on the jacket.
Speaker 2: I'll take the wolf from the sheep and knit like
a goddamn man.
Speaker 3: No, he's going full, just like peeling it like a banana.
Speaker 2: And then just we got my byers skin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, he's peeling his sheep and and
just yeah, being in it's like warm hide and they
don't kill murder. The shepherd then gets mad at him. Meanwhile,
they're just like, oh my god, who is the guy
that that came to the lighthouse. They were they just
wish they were working with him. They're like, goddamn it, what.
Speaker 2: The guy that was on leave?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like why I.
Speaker 2: Wish we were with the fucking MacArthur Joseph Moore. Yeah,
they're like, what goddamn which I mean, pretty good break
for him.
Speaker 3: Well, would it? Is it if he had replaced MacArthur? Yeah,
if he was with replacing one of the other guys,
then he's.
Speaker 2: Because we don't know, yeah, what happened. The much more
plausible explanation is that Marshall and Duquet were swept away
while trying to secure the supplies and equipment on the
West landing. When his colleagues failed to return, MacArthur headed
it out to find them, and he too perish in
the storm.
Speaker 3: Okay, because we there again, there was a storm and
the logbooks were bullshit. Okay, so he they didn't return, Well,
the logbook.
Speaker 2: Still says there's a storm. It just says it ends
on the fifteenth.
Speaker 3: I think you said those pages were bullshit.
Speaker 2: They are it was all made up years later. Yeah,
but I'm saying even if they were real, yeah, it
still mentions the storm right right, right right.
Speaker 3: And again following MacArthur being the hard ass dickhead goes
out into the storm without his jacket, not panicked, but
rather just jacket lets, probably shirtless because he's just like boys,
I don't need a fucking jacket. You know. They're they're
dead though, so they're not impressed.
Speaker 2: Is that why our grandparents always like warned us to
not go out in the rain without a jacket.
Speaker 3: It used to kill people all the time. Actually, I
had to go back through our blogs on on Patreon
the other day because I was looking for something, and
there's a blog post I did about how we used
to just just like more proof that we're all just
like soft little bitches now, And it was essentially like
this story about this woman who had gone mad and
tried to kill herself by jumping into the icy ocean right,
not from a cliff from the beach, yeah, basically from
a pier. The fall. She didn't plan on the fall
killing her. She planned on getting out and just having
being chili and the chill, the chill, where whereas like
now when you're a kid, you're like the fuck up,
bop cool, don't just take a pill and be perfectly
fucking fine.
Speaker 2: Plus you've watched enough Man versus Wild, you know how
to survive that kind of situation.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, like it's there's no Yeah, you split a
turtle's throat and you live forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get the turtle's blood and you just
kind of warm yourself with it. Yeah, uh like it yeah,
like back in the day, like it used to just
be like if you.
Speaker 3: Got cold on the wrong day, you might fucking die.
And now and by the way, that chick who I'm
talking about because I read re read the article, the
only reason she was even insane is because she had
haven't had a fever for a while. So because she
didn't have advil, she went insane and tried to kill
herself with something that advil would cure.
Speaker 2: The headache got me. I wanted to murder myself.
Speaker 3: Like it's just like now it's literally just like I
take my magic pill, everything is better. Like it's just
fucking crazy. So yeah, yeah, that they they did. They
did think we were insane. They that's why our grandparents
and parents were like that, because it put it on
your jack. Even of the fifties, it's it's it wasn't
maybe the maybe like upper class, middle class kids are okay,
but there's still poor kids dying of being too chilly.
Speaker 2: Too cold. Yeah, I it's a it was a better
time back then, though.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we need to go back, need to go back,
roll back.
Speaker 2: You know, we're always talking about rolling back different sports
like golf. Maybe, uh, football has gone too far with offense,
like all these different kind of rule sets that make
it impossible play defense on in the game of football.
But what if we just roll.
Speaker 3: Back life soft times makes soft man.
Speaker 2: We should make it harder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should only have hard times.
Speaker 2: You should be able to die of sepsis at any moment.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree with that. And not only that, you
should be you should have to poke a hole in
your leg every day and rub some poo in it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be
a big hole, could just be like a kind of needle.
Speaker 3: Right to see if you get the sepsis. Hard times
make hard bet, and we just keep need to making
harder and harder times.
Speaker 2: Does that mean they're currently having an erection anytime there's
a hard moment.
Speaker 3: I just think we yes, but I think we need more.
Speaker 2: It's like you get fired from your job, you're rock hard.
Speaker 3: I think everyone in this world needs a Lucky Pierre mentality,
give and take hard and you know, fun and rough.
Speaker 2: Also, I mean it is soft times right now. That's
why Testos Troun's down.
Speaker 3: I guess mind, Bro, we're pushing rope, not mine. Bro.
Speaker 2: Fucking yeah, we know you're slinging, fucking slinging DNA slinging
three dudes.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: It's pretty gay. You had three guys come out of
your cock.
Speaker 3: Three guys and my wife out of your cock. Yeah?
Am I lucky to be here? I don't know who does?
Probably should make a sex joke about my children. Uh,
I don't know. Let's not yes and this anymore. We
went down a dead end, go back, all right?
Speaker 2: Fine? We should all have to serve in a lighthouse. Yeah,
I think do a tour at a light house.
Speaker 3: People light house? Well, what is there is like a proposal,
like not a proposal, but people say sometimes like you
should have a certain amount of like public sir, like
everyone you have to do like blue.
Speaker 2: College service, civil service for like a year or two
or something. A lot of people also say like service industry,
so you know, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's always like, oh, you're a better person if
you work at I worked at plenty of restaurants.
Speaker 2: There were plenty of dickheads that work at restaurants. Oh wow,
some of the career waiters usually dickheads.
Speaker 3: Some of the worst people you can imagine work at restaurant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, easily ivied.
Speaker 3: I worked with a lady who stole twenty dollars out
of a fourteen year old's purse that she worked with.
I worked with drug addicts. Yeah, like I worked with
I worked with absolute fucking like heroin addicts.
Speaker 2: Oh dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The restaurant I worked at, every every like male waiter
very touchy feely, very inappropriate with the female waiters.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All the cooks were like methed out of their minds,
just throwing pant pots and pans at each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh pretty sure. Somebody got murdered at one point, or
at least severely injured.
Speaker 3: Probably. I mean, it's just a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 2: It was not a good restaurant was a tavern. We
weren't on the bear.
Speaker 3: Mine was two. It was called Boon Tavern was in
columb Well, the one that I wrote, so the one
where the the lady stole the chicks money. That was
my high school job. And then like the restaurant I
worked at in high school and then the Boon Tavern
was in college. I worked at other restaurants too, Like
I worked at a Qui. I worked at a quiz No's,
and like, these two gay dudes worked there and they
were banging each other. But one was like a fifty
five year old black guy and the other was like
a nineteen year old little.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be like sixteen year old dude.
Speaker 3: They were probably banging before he was eighteen. And they
would like use the Quizno's computer for personal shit all
the time. And I think they were like downloading porn
and stuff like that, which look I would do that too.
I'm just saying these guys were like and they were
like they did they did like meth and shit like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I valet cars were supposed to plit tips.
I was a man of honor and put everything in
the pot kids all the time all the especially the
guys who were higher up the totem pole.
Speaker 3: Just oh yeah, I kind of feel like, you.
Speaker 2: Know how one for you, ten for me.
Speaker 3: You know how they say, like like former homeless people
will be like, don't give homeless people money, you know
what I mean? Yeah, they like I as a form.
Speaker 2: Home, most homeless people want to be homeless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they're like, there's there are a lot of
like people who were homeless who are like, you shouldn't.
Shouldn't give people money who were on the street like that,
Like it doesn't help them. It just whatever. Like as
a former service industry worker, it does. It might make
you more appreciative of some of the people sometimes, but really,
like I know what happens inside of restaurants, and they're
all just pieces of.
Speaker 2: Shit, mostly scumbags.
Speaker 3: Look at like what the movie Waiting was like incredibly accurate.
Speaker 2: Accurate. Yeah we will.
Speaker 3: I have fucked with people's food so many times.
Speaker 2: That's messed up.
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 2: I have never done even like dude, people would come
in kitchen clothes at midnight. People would come in eleven
fifty nine order food. We'd be pissed. Still, I mean,
we didn't fuck with their food.
Speaker 3: I have never done like bodily fluid or anything horrific
in that way.
Speaker 2: That's a statute of limitations of the past.
Speaker 3: I think, I know, but I haven't done that. I
would like like there was one time I was just like, man,
this guy he like came in right at clothes and
ordered food.
Speaker 2: You like, he wants blue cheese. I'm giving them brand No.
I was like, this guy can order it. He's like,
you ordered a fried fish thing, which like can you dick?
Speaker 3: And I just took a sharpie marker and like drew
a dick on the sandwich, fried it, put it on
the bud, put all the stuff. He was never gonna
see it. He couldn't unless he picked the fish up.
Speaker 2: And that was a win for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bade me eat a dick or like I don't even know,
or there was like just also it was just like
we're unsand we're far more unsanitary than you think, just
in general. I remember there's one time that we just
like clogged a toilet on accident and it started like
leaking on out into the main back storage area of
the restaurant. And the boss was like cheap and was
just like save it, save it, and we're like picking
latus up off the fucking wet pooh ground.
Speaker 2: Jesus. Uh. It was just the worst part was the
kitchen was already clean and then you have to fire
everything back up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, it depends on what you're cooking. I
guess dropping something in the deep fries is not even
that bad.
Speaker 1: Not bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just a petulant, little fucking nineteen year old.
Speaker 2: You ordered the tea bone. Fuck. Yeah, Well, I'm a dishwasher,
the only guy left in the kitchen. I gotta fucking
make the steak. All right, Here you go, Bud, I'm sweating.
Speaker 3: Also, one time at that fucking college job, someone straight
up stole my north face, Like I'm a college kid.
Speaker 2: I do remember. That was a big thing back in
the day. Uh, you just wear you're really not even
nice jackets. They were like moderately priced jackets, and they
would get you know, just copped all the time.
Speaker 3: All the time because they all look the same. You
can't unless you literally, like a five year old, write
your name on the tag that.
Speaker 2: Was part of the frat uniform.
Speaker 3: The north face for me when I was in school
was it was a black north face. Fleece.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just said north Face.
Speaker 3: Yep, that was it.
Speaker 2: Not a nice jacket. It's pretty whatever.
Speaker 3: The originals are mid. They're really nice now and they're
really nice back like right after that too, but like
the originals were pretty mid.
Speaker 2: You're just doing it for the I don't know, you're
just living up to the stereotype.
Speaker 3: I love north Face.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know you still wear freck clothes to
this day, you're almost forty years old. You wear vineyard vines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's cheap and it I like the way
it fits. I don't wear I don't wear out. I
wear it to like work, I wear like a long
sleeved t shirt. I'm not I'm not like wearing a
whale like Oxford to fucking Christmas masks or whatever the fuck,
or like I can't even say a date because I've
I've been married, but like you know what I mean,
I'm not not wearing a vineyard vines tied to a
wedding in a.
Speaker 2: Month, Right. You go to a wedding zone and you're like,
is that Brooks Brothers? And if it's not, you spit
on them.
Speaker 3: Well, Brooks Bros.
Speaker 2: Really dropped in quality actually so it's not really what
he used to be. I'm very out of the loop
with what's uh still that.
Speaker 3: Just getting around flooring. It's never gonna be bad where.
Speaker 2: You get the giant polo. I can't do the giant
polo or giant horse. Never could do the giant very
European even though it's US Polo.
Speaker 3: Is it European or like Persia.
Speaker 2: One of the same, It's not.
Speaker 3: It's like euro trash or Persian.
Speaker 2: You would always go to You would go to the outlet, though,
and you would get like last year's Ralph Lauren with
the the pony and the guy logo would change colors
and that's how you knew what year it was. But
like the style, there is no last year is Ralph Lauren?
Like most of it's pretty timeless.
Speaker 3: I did ship with my wife the other day that
she's like, I got this polo hat for so cheap
off Amazon because she wanted Ralph Lauren, like canvas hat
or whatever. And she shows it to me and it's
US Polo Association, not Polo Ralph Lauren. You know that
US Polo associates like.
Speaker 2: Four horses, the giant is the Giant Horse.
Speaker 3: It's not a giant hors not the one there's like
three there's three polo players instead of one. And I
was just like, you piece of trash, like you're not
gonna bid Yeah, do you understand my wife? But I
would not.
Speaker 2: I would kick you the tent right now.
Speaker 3: Do you understand why that was so cheap? It's because
it is cheap. It's because you're cheap.
Speaker 2: Get it? Do you have to say k Mart?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like return it now. She's like the other
ones were like twice as much, and I was like, yeah,
because those are the real ones. US Polio Association is
like what you get at it at like a dying mall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I only know dying malls.
Speaker 3: Well they're all dying now. Yeah, dude, the fucking Barton
Creek Mall. I wish we could maybe we could just
like record there'd be a funny place to record a
show fro They just have a bar in the middle
of the mall, not like, oh one of the stores
is a bar, Like it's in the.
Speaker 2: Hall cheesecake factory. Obviously you can drink there.
Speaker 3: Right, it is in the hallway.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 3: It's sweet. I kind of want to just go get
drunk there one day.
Speaker 2: They probably serve a bunch of underage kids.
Speaker 3: Who else would drink there.
Speaker 2: It's got to be people I go to malls are
old people and children teenagers. Yeah, it's gotta be by
the way without a car. Those bar tests to get
dropped off at the Tuesdays and their moms like, we'll
pick you up at ten o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did this when I was a kid.
You do, They're like, what the fuck do you do?
I guess we'll burn something. But like those bartenders have got.
Speaker 2: To be awful. Yeah, you just go to Spencer's and
steal shit, stealing some mulls.
Speaker 3: Puhone.
Speaker 2: I never stole anything. I know, you're klepto. That's why
I said I was a klepto.
Speaker 3: Back in the day. I didn't even need the stuff.
Not that I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Your parents are lawyers, you have money.
Speaker 3: They were very thrifty people. It's Midwestern, Catholic, Irish German.
They don't. I've said this on the show before. The joke.
My joke is that like if they won the lottery,
they wouldn't know what to do with it. We just
stayed a nicer holiday and I guess if on whatever
vacation we went on, you would.
Speaker 2: Go from the express to the actual holiday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like she would still be liked. The Disney World
hotel prices.
Speaker 2: Were so high. Some of them are some of them
are much Nicer'd.
Speaker 3: Be like, Mom, you just want three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just the prices.
Speaker 3: There, mother, you stay rich. Yeah, mother, you've you just
won half of show a Tani's salary, Like you can
afford a suite.
Speaker 2: It this the prices there ridiculous. The principle matter for
the Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like, we're like in Disney World, and I say
it's because we would you would do a vacation for
the kids. We're like in Disney World. Like, well, let's
just seat at this restaurant here. It's right, you know,
I was in Apcot that that prices at this Epcot.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is true though, like uh my last place,
I left my apartment because they wanted to raise my
rent another.
Speaker 3: Like rent is plummeting here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like I showed them all the data, the
statistics like every other comp to their apartments. I'm like, yeah,
I can afford this, but like there's no way I'm
gonna pay over two thousand dollars for a one bedroom apartment, right, redulous?
Like no, And I told them the funk off and
they're like, we all know sometimes people go through financial struggles.
And that really pissed me off.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, we know you're a little poor bitch.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that ain't the case. Yeah, but uh now
for fuck you Yeah, so uh yeah, preserve at Travis
Creak can go fuck themselves.
Speaker 3: I don't think I went to that apartment you had
that one, but I like your current apartment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 3: By the way, there were like two dudes at the
pool in the middle of the day, like these two
just like bros. It was a weekday.
Speaker 2: It's a bro heavy apartment complet They.
Speaker 3: Were just like playing a game with each other in
the pool. I was like, it's not working today. I
mean it was like noon.
Speaker 2: I think I know who did they're they're two gay guys.
Speaker 3: They didn't seem gay maybe bros. Yeah, yeah, but there
they are.
Speaker 2: But they were playing chicken with each other's cocks.
Speaker 3: But I was just like, what the fuck, Like, you
guys out of a jump. I mean, maybe they're working
remote and they're just like lunch break, dude, let's go.
They're like throwing a ball, like so some weird game
with a ball the pool. Well, let's go play fucking
what is a table hockey but in the pool or
like it was just some weird thing like that.
Speaker 2: I used to fuck with floor hockey. Floor hockey was
the best rocks. Yeah, I'll play four hockey right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Fuck, let's we're done. Thanks listeners of We're gonna
play four hockey real quick for you're going. We do
have some ads. First up, as Factor, head to Factor
meals dot com slash softcore fifty and use the code
softcore fifty to get fifty percent off your first box
plus twenty percent off your next month. That's code Softcore
fifty at Factor meals dot com slash softcore fifty. What
is Factor? It is the best meal delivery service out there.
I cannot recommend it enough. There's typically two types of
ways to get your meals delivered right. There's the frozen way,
which gross. Screw that. Don't get frozen food sent to you.
Get out of here with that. The other way is
you get fresh food sent to you, but it's like, hey,
you still got to put it together and cook it
and stuff on the stove in the oven, you know,
put all the ingredients together, cut, slice, dice. Whatever takes time,
takes even more time. Cleaning. You don't have time for that.
The whole point of getting meals delivered to you should
be that they're awesome meals and you don't have to
cook like you would if you got your groceries or whatever.
And that is where Factor comes in. These are fresh,
chef crafted, dietitian approved meals that heat up in two
minutes and they are never ever ever frozen. They are
completely fresh and they will cater to any diet you have.
They do calorie smart, protein plus keto, they can do
low carb, they can do just maximizing your protein intake,
or simply just well balanced. You know you just like
I just want a normal, healthy mix of foods. Anything
you can figure out, they can do. Factor is that good.
They have thirty five different meals with more than sixty
add ons to choose from. Every week, you'll always have
new flavors to explore. It is not a static menu.
You can make your day delicious from breakfast all the
way through dessert because they do that. They do breakfast,
they do lunch, they do dinner, they do dessert. They've
even sent me appetizers before. It is awesome. I think
at one point they had like enough appetisers that you
could like cater a super Bowl party or something like
that with them. It's awesome, dude. But all their stuff
really high quality. I'm talking filet mignon, shrimp, black and salmon.
They do pasta and stuff like that, roasted veggies. I'm
telling you, it is like it is like a restaurant
menu that you're looking at when you go down this
list at factor meals dot com slash softcore fifty. So
enjoy effortless support for your lifestyle. Choose from six menu
preferences to help manage calories, maximize protein intake, avoid meat,
or simply eat well balanced. And again, if you're busy
like me, you've got two kids and it's just you're
just working two jobs whatever, and you still want to
eat like a human being and you don't want to
go to Chipotle for the millionth day in a row,
factors it, dude. It is a life changing in that way.
Head to factor meals dot com slash softcore fifty. Use
the code softcore fifty to get fifty percent off your
first box and twenty percent off your next month. That's
softcore fifty at Factor meals dot com slash softcore fifty
to get fifty percent off your first box plus twenty
percent off your next month while your subscription is active.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the real reason for the disappearance is get
back to it. Of James Decat, Thomas Marshall, and William
MacArthur was and probably will never be solved. There was
no official to this day.
Speaker 3: I thought you're about to reveal it.
Speaker 2: No official was no official reasoning for their death. Uh,
it is still an open investigation. What is your belief?
What say you, Rob Fox?
Speaker 3: I love the theory. It's probably not true that they
were all three, that MacArthur started a fight and they
all three just accidentally fell off.
Speaker 2: A cliff into the ocean, I know, especially if you're
breaking up the fight. Yeah, or if it was like
a two one one. They're duken there, like we've had
enough your ship.
Speaker 3: MacArthur like he they all three everywhere going out somewhere.
It's cold as fuck, and MacArthur's just like you two
bitches with your jacket on, you cold little baby, little
bitch baby cold both to you.
Speaker 2: I guess what is the relevance of the food still
being half eaten? Chair flipped over? Fight started there?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what that means. It's a storm. It
was a storm because they something happened and they had
to get up quick and do something.
Speaker 2: The light went out. I maybe now they go get supplied.
Speaker 3: They had to go run down to the to the
light bulbs, the light bulb shed, which is on the
other side of the island, right next to the worst
part of the ocean.
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, oh, how can we make this as
inconvenient as possible?
Speaker 3: Yet, well, they got to do something otherwise you're just
sitting around all day.
Speaker 2: You're right, you know, it gives you purpose. It's like,
gives me an extra thing during the day.
Speaker 3: Let's their boss feel like they're paying them for something,
you know, like not wasting there.
Speaker 2: It's not a big island.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to look at the picture
that island.
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you think, though.
Speaker 3: I know, because it really is.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, how many times have you watched bansheese
of in a shearing every day.
Speaker 3: Fall asleep to it?
Speaker 2: It's much smaller than that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, it's I don't even know where
they would go. Why would everything not be stored right
there in the only building.
Speaker 2: I like to believe it was the ghost ship. Okay,
I think they got scooped up by skeletons.
Speaker 3: That would be sweet. I'm I'm here for that, certainly.
Speaker 2: Are you just looking at the lighthouse.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the this The lighthouse has like two.
Speaker 2: Paths, state of the art, one year old white house.
Speaker 3: So it's got two paths, and.
Speaker 2: Which one's less taken?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does really split like that too. I don't
see any sheep though, I don't know it's I just don't.
Speaker 2: They also got swept up, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 3: All the sheep got taken too. Yeah, everything everything's gone.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be hell. What if the sheep being a
sheep in a massive storm?
Speaker 3: Right where the fuck you go? Nowhere? Probably next to.
Speaker 2: The hunkered down Yeah, just hope your your wall is
long enough. So how did sheep survive so long without us?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Have you seen a like unkept sheep?
Speaker 3: I'm sure they do.
Speaker 2: They're in pain. The shit like grows over their heads
and they're.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's probably an evolutionary thing. And also I don't know,
they probably rubbed up against trees or some bullshit.
Speaker 2: Or we've always just been best friends with sheep.
Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean we probably domesticate sheep in prehistory before writing.
Actually not, probably, we absolutely did, so.
Speaker 2: They just relied on us to cut it. That's a
weird thing.
Speaker 3: But it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because there's always like a one of
the you know, sheep get out, they get lost in
the wild for like three or four years, and they
stumble back and they're just there's just a big old pile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's literally exactly what I just said. Uh,
I just googled how do wild cheep shed their wool?
They rub against trees, rocks and other objects. So the
sheep that you see that are like overgrown like that,
they're probably intentionally overgrown, maybe to get wool, or they
don't have a.
Speaker 2: Rock or tree or whatever. Maybe they want attention or
they're yeah.
Speaker 3: Little little drama queens. Yeah. Uh, who is today's Hitler ambiguity?
Speaker 2: What about the giant sea bird or the sea serpent?
Speaker 3: I hope a seabird killed them?
Speaker 2: Were the people that made up the log book.
Speaker 3: The logbook whatever. Actually, no, it's that ship's captain who
made the one guy go alone onto a mystery island
because he worked there.
Speaker 2: But like, we don't know what's happening right now, but yeah,
you go do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ship's cat.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna we're not gonna risk any other men
on this boat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my hitler. He's like, you're not on this cruise.
Speaker 2: He's essentially saying you're expendable.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's my that's my hitler. Fuck that guy,
that's a dick.
Speaker 2: Uh, what you learned today?
Speaker 3: If anything that the that the I mean, I guess
I kind of already knew that shepherds were superstitious people.
Speaker 2: I we're not gonna go there at night.
Speaker 3: It's so so funny. We gotta get out before sundown.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that? Just run into like a rowboat.
Speaker 3: Like the sun's just setting. I don't really know. I mean,
I learned every all of this today, but I don't
really know that I learned.
Speaker 2: Anything that's a you know, it's a story.
Speaker 3: Story. This is a story.
Speaker 2: That's what this is.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Halloween horror nizes is for exactly. I just imagine,
you know, they had their lanterns out.
Speaker 3: Oh there was a great lantern game next ahead. In
a way that only makes sense for camera, like, this
is not a natural way to hold I just want
everyone to know what I'm doing right now. This isn't natural.
This is like, this is the cup, This isn't This
feels bad on my arm. It's rigid.
Speaker 2: It's usually right in movies, it's right in their face, right,
and it does. Yeah, it feels like it would block
anything they would see.
Speaker 3: Right, It's it's not how you do it.
Speaker 2: Also, the light right in your eye, it's not how
you do it. Not ideal. I know it's probably aesthetically
appeasing to the viewer.
Speaker 3: For camera. Yeahs for camera, Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 2: I mean when you're driving to it's the same thing, right,
when you drive it's actually like this. Yeah, you're not
all over the fucking road, right. But that's all I
got today. Thank you for tuning in again. Patreon, dot
como Software History two additional episodes every week, and of
course at this point we got a three year back
catalog of evergreen content. You do not want to miss
out again. Five dollars a month and pretty much all
you can eat content boom. But yeah, thanks for tuning in.
Next week, hopefully we have a guest. Well, we'll see.
We've reached out to a couple people that haven't been
on the show before.
Speaker 3: Actually yes, one was sick. Another like he was.
Speaker 2: Gonna come this week but he had COVID. I think
that is what he said.
Speaker 3: What a good excuse to get out of anything.
Speaker 2: It was a great excuse.
Speaker 3: No one's gonna question it, even people who were like
coded bullshit.
Speaker 2: Like they're starting like I don't want to guess sick.
Speaker 3: I don't or though that, or they'll be like I
don't want to get into it with that guy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, find just do your thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: We make sure to follow us at software history on Instagram,
and uh leave a five star review on Apple and
Spotify please and thank you. Write a reveal on Apple
if you can. That moves us up to the charts. And yeah,
that's all I got for today. So Rob Fox, I'm
damn regester and you just got saw served.