Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to k
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Speaker 2: Before we get into what's happening, some of the developing
Speaker 2: stories that we're following today, both two of them coming
Speaker 2: from the Senate. On one hand, the Senate did confirm
Speaker 2: John Ratcliffe to lead the CIA today. Senators confned him
Speaker 2: seventy four to twenty five, so he's now the second
Speaker 2: member of the incoming national security team to be approved
Speaker 2: by the upper chamber. Also, senators voted to end debate.
Speaker 2: I think that's the cloture vote. They voted to end
Speaker 2: debate for Pete Hegseth, which means they've sent him on.
Speaker 2: It's likely going to go to a floor vote tomorrow
Speaker 2: in the Senate for Pete Hegseth to become the next
Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense. And then the federal judge in Seattle
Speaker 2: has blocked temporarily President Trump's attempt to rescind birthright citizenship
Speaker 2: spelled out in the fourteenth fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1: A bit of breaking news on the firefront the Hues
Speaker 1: fire now twenty four percent contained. That's up ten percent
Speaker 1: from this morning. This thing erupted into ten thousand acres
Speaker 1: as we reported to you as it was happening yesterday
Speaker 1: in the Castaic Lake area, prompting more than fifty thousand
Speaker 1: different mandatory evacuations. Palisades fire seventy two percent contained at
Speaker 1: this rate twenty three thousand acres is what That one
Speaker 1: ate through killed at least eleven people, and the Eaten
Speaker 1: fire ninety five percent contained seventeen people dead, fourteen thousand
Speaker 1: acres for that one.
Speaker 3: What else is going on? Time four? What's happening?
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Speaker 2: In Nashville, we know more about the school shooting suspect.
Speaker 2: There was a seventeen year old kid who shot in
Speaker 2: a cafeteria at Antioch High School yesterday, killing sixteen year
Speaker 2: old Jostle and Escalante injuring a seventeen year old. A
Speaker 2: bullet apparently grazed his arm, and then the shooter, armed
Speaker 2: with a pistol, shot himself. The motive is not known,
Speaker 2: but apparently he had a whole social media history. The
Speaker 2: Anti Defamation League said that he described himself as an
Speaker 2: involuntary in cell self loathing in cell. In one post,
Speaker 2: he wrote, I am a worthless of human, A living
Speaker 2: breathing disgrace. All my real life friends outgrowmy and act
Speaker 2: like they don't know me. Being me was so humiliating.
Speaker 2: That's why I spend all day dissociating.
Speaker 1: We've talked about these fires being a generational event, the
Speaker 1: way that wind event hit us a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: here in southern California. Well they're calling what happened to
Speaker 1: the Gulf Coast this week a once in a lifetime type.
Speaker 1: Snowstorm struck from Texas to Florida, closing airports, crippling roadways,
Speaker 1: freezing temperatures. Ten people now dead across three states as
Speaker 1: they tried to figure out how to deal with a
Speaker 1: winter storm in areas where they don't have to deal
Speaker 1: with winter storms.
Speaker 2: Baton Rouge, Louisiana had seven point six inches of snow
Speaker 2: wow back here in beach cities. Following the inauguration of
Speaker 2: President Trump and has promised to carry out mass deportations
Speaker 2: and fight against sanctuary cities. The city of Huntington Beach
Speaker 2: has declared itself a non sanctuary city, to.
Speaker 1: Which I say, if you didn't already know that, you
Speaker 1: are living with your head in the sand. Huntington Beach
Speaker 1: basically toes the Trump agenda to the tee, to the.
Speaker 3: Tut And.
Speaker 2: It's similar to when the LA City Council came out,
Speaker 2: was it just a couple of months ago said they
Speaker 2: were going to reaffirm their sanctuary city status.
Speaker 1: Whatever whatever goes on an LA City haul, it's the
Speaker 1: opposite in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 3: Who are you doing that for?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, a man from Wisconsin has pleaded guilty today to
Speaker 1: reported false emergencies in places like West Covina and Knox Oxnard,
Speaker 1: then using ring cameras at the residences to taunt responding officers.
Speaker 1: Get a job, get a hobby, go to the depot,
Speaker 1: build something, build a barn in the backyard.
Speaker 2: We mentioned the nominations for the Oscars coming up. Colin O'Brien,
Speaker 2: by the way, you're going to host the oscarsh and
Speaker 2: Cynthia Arivo nominated for Best Actress as Alphaba in Wicked.
Speaker 2: Gives her a chance to be an Egot, Emmy, Grammy,
Speaker 2: Oscar Tony.
Speaker 3: Can you name anyone else?
Speaker 1: It's not really my wheelhouse? Ask me NFL stats.
Speaker 2: I did not know that there were this many of
Speaker 2: the awards. I would have gotten one of them. I
Speaker 2: would have gotten probably Rita Moreno, only because it's she
Speaker 2: completed the cycle in nineteen seventy seven. But Richard Rogers,
Speaker 2: Helen Hayes, John Gilgood, Audrey Hepburn, Marvin Hamlish, mel Brooks.
Speaker 2: A lot of these people are Andrew Lloyd Webber, John Legend, Oh,
Speaker 2: Alan Mankin, Jennifer Hudson, Viola Davis, Elton, John You know
Speaker 2: who those people?
Speaker 1: You could do this. You have all the gifts of theater.
Speaker 1: I do not have all the You can act, you
Speaker 1: can sing, you can dance. What can you not do?
Speaker 3: I can dance. There's no dance award on there.
Speaker 6: Theater involves dance.
Speaker 2: No, they're not winning for I mean, I guess some
Speaker 2: of them could could. Yeah, but no, you should use
Speaker 2: all of your gifts. Don't put a gift in the
Speaker 2: closet and close the door on it. Halle ma uma
Speaker 2: ooh crater of the Kilauea volcano. Apparently it is resumed eruptions.
Speaker 2: It is the world's most active volcano in Kilauea resumed
Speaker 2: its latest eruption yesterday, noted just before three pm local time.
Speaker 3: I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 1: It's fine, everything's fine. We're all fine. Let's just keep going.
Speaker 4: They are.
Speaker 2: They say there are significant hazards of the eruption wall instability,
Speaker 2: ground cracking, rock falls. These hazards could be enhanced by
Speaker 2: any earthquakes hit. You could endanger members of the public
Speaker 2: that venture too close to the volcano within the national park.
Speaker 1: Everything's fine. How about your Jeopardy question? Yeah, let's get
Speaker 1: it losers for four hundred dollars. And there was no
Speaker 1: joy in Mudville after this mighty player from a poem
Speaker 1: struck out.
Speaker 6: This was like you on the last day of fantasy.
Speaker 2: That's not funny.
Speaker 5: Still hurts.
Speaker 1: Hey, you hit a couple doubles. You only struck out twice.
Speaker 1: I struck out twice during an one at bat when
Speaker 1: I played softball.
Speaker 3: How did you do that?
Speaker 6: Exactly?
Speaker 1: All right? Our small business shout out? Will we come back?
Speaker 1: Also still ahead this hour? Why monkeys are trying to
Speaker 1: have sex with deer? You're not gonna want to miss that.
Speaker 3: Good selling Right there.
Speaker 7: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 7: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: We do have strange science coming your way, because it
Speaker 1: is Thursdays, and what's Thursdays without strange science? The curious
Speaker 1: case of the monkeys and their infatuation with the deer.
Speaker 2: The fires, of course, continue to be a big deal.
Speaker 2: The fire that's burning up near Castaic Lake has been
Speaker 2: increased just very slightly from last night's numbers to two
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy eight acres at about twenty four percent containment.
Speaker 2: Most of those areas in and around Castaic, those neighborhoods
Speaker 2: at least have been allowed back in all of the
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say all, but most of the evacuation orders
Speaker 2: have been reduced to warnings, and some of those warnings
Speaker 2: from even this morning have been completely taken down, so
Speaker 2: people are allowed back in those.
Speaker 1: Areas Wellanuary is something we've talked about a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I'm doing dry January for the first time this year.
Speaker 1: It actually began in twenty twelve by a British charity
Speaker 1: and it's where it's obvious, right common sense. It speaks
Speaker 1: for itself it's when you abstain from drinking alcohol for
Speaker 1: the entire month of January. And it has grown in
Speaker 1: popularity exponentially. I think it was like three times. A
Speaker 1: number of people are doing it now that did it
Speaker 1: in like twenty nineteen or what have you.
Speaker 6: It's just incredible. O.
Speaker 2: Briona mcrenolds owns Burden of Proof, this non alcoholic bottle
Speaker 2: shop and mark it down in the South Pasadena area.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in today, Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: What's this little mini bar that you've already set up
Speaker 2: over here?
Speaker 8: Yes, so I heard that there was some dry January
Speaker 8: support needed, so we brought a couple of our favorites
Speaker 8: and best sellers, tried to diversify and bring something from
Speaker 8: each category. We have a phony NEGRONI my favorite name.
Speaker 8: We have to to shoots spears like I PA and
Speaker 8: Dark and I heard you guys like Fireball. So we
Speaker 8: have a little spice with the moment.
Speaker 1: How can you tell her that you're making this sound.
Speaker 5: Like it's on the internet. I found it myself. Once
Speaker 5: it's up, it's up. You can't hide.
Speaker 1: Actually, our relationship with Fireball is like long documented and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 8: And then a sparkling wine, sparkling white.
Speaker 1: That will be my favorite probably. I was just reading that. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of articles that have been coming out
Speaker 1: all all month long about this, but in terms of
Speaker 1: the hit the alcohol industry has been facing and how
Speaker 1: they're kind of relying on heavy drinkers this moment because
Speaker 1: there are so many light or casual drinkers that are
Speaker 1: moving towards and you'll see it in bars and restaurants
Speaker 1: popping up too, that it's it's a thing.
Speaker 6: It's not going anywhere for a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 8: I think the top selling beer at Whole Foods is Athletic,
Speaker 8: which is non alcoholic, and any bar or restaurant that
Speaker 8: is not carrying non alcoholic products is so leaving money
Speaker 8: on the table. So it's almost like you need to
Speaker 8: get with the time.
Speaker 2: It used to be you could go to a restaurant
Speaker 2: and you'd find, you know, your list of beers and wines,
Speaker 2: and there'd be one selection for a non alcoholic something,
Speaker 2: some beer of some kind. Yeah, and now there's like
Speaker 2: a whole everybody's got they've got the mocktails, they've got
Speaker 2: you know, non alcoholic wine. There's three or four different
Speaker 2: kinds of beer that you can get that are non alcoholic.
Speaker 1: I noticed this because I when I set out to
Speaker 1: do this, I was like, I was going to stay
Speaker 1: away from that stuff because I don't know, it's too
Speaker 1: close to the real thing. But I went to a
Speaker 1: couple dinners for work and I got I had water
Speaker 1: at one, and I'm like, this isn't fun.
Speaker 6: This is boring.
Speaker 1: And I had tea at the other one, and I
Speaker 1: just sat there with my tea as everyone was four
Speaker 1: years old toddies, and I'm like, this isn't fun. So
Speaker 1: this is perfect? Is this all looks very fun?
Speaker 5: Awesome? Do you want to try?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, let's do it.
Speaker 5: We'll start with the uh feline ne Groni.
Speaker 1: Now negroni is what it is, a liqueur usually.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so a negroni is typically like a very dark,
Speaker 8: strong drink. I know, my cups don't know their own strength.
Speaker 8: They've been doing dry January. So this is actually made
Speaker 8: in Brooklyn and this company, Saint Agrestus. Uh, they were
Speaker 8: actually just uh alcohol distillers, and then they started experimenting
Speaker 8: with non alcoholic and found this formula.
Speaker 1: That's a drink that I wouldn't drink probably normally.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little strong, a little bitter.
Speaker 6: pH balance for a woman yet whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, one of the one of the I guess but
Speaker 2: leafs about non alcoholic drinks is that there's a certain
Speaker 2: there's a reaction in your mouth that takes place with alcohol,
Speaker 2: the burn that whatever it is. If it's a it's
Speaker 2: a spirit, if it's a beer, even wine to a
Speaker 2: certain degree has that alcohol burn to it, which a
Speaker 2: lot of people crave. This has just the tiniest, tiniest
Speaker 2: amount of it. This the phony ne gronie.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason it reminds me of alcohol too is
Speaker 1: because you're kind.
Speaker 6: Of like, ooh, it's strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, I mean that's the that's the the
Speaker 1: feeling that you get or the reflex that you have
Speaker 1: when you taste when you can taste the alcohol.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this one is I'd say the bite is on
Speaker 8: the low end. A lot of spirits because people crave that,
Speaker 8: they'll use like ginger or pepper or vinegar to give
Speaker 8: you that burn. So we even carry some pava products.
Speaker 8: Cova is a plant that's been used in the South
Speaker 8: Pacific for hundreds of years for sort of ceremonial and
Speaker 8: social purposes.
Speaker 5: Actually numbs your mouth. So you're like, whoa, this is working?
Speaker 5: Having well this in a while?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm at the dentist.
Speaker 5: Yeah that Yeah, okay, I've.
Speaker 2: Had the at least the alcohol version of that fresh
Speaker 2: squeeze I pa from to Shoot.
Speaker 3: So okay, excellent, I have a memory of it. Go
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So most of the beers and wines are de alcoholized,
Speaker 8: meaning that they are brude or fermented all the way through.
Speaker 3: To having booze and then and then it's taken out.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Its exactly like I feel like I'm cheating on dry jack.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's got right, it's got all the same
Speaker 8: complexity and hops.
Speaker 1: My husband would totally drink that and you wouldn't even know,
Speaker 1: you would have no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, very much. Wow.
Speaker 8: So the Shoots actually we did a tasting with them
Speaker 8: earlier this week, and they have sort of a bespoke
Speaker 8: exclusive de alcoholization process.
Speaker 5: Everyone's got their own.
Speaker 8: But it might be like a vacuum system or some
Speaker 8: sort of science that lowers the boiling point of alcohol,
Speaker 8: so the alcohol will boil out.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Because there's there's there's a new trend also towards hop waters,
Speaker 2: which you know, they're they're more of a Seltzer version
Speaker 2: of beer that have that kind of the hoppy taste
Speaker 2: to it but doesn't have the alcohol in it. And
Speaker 2: those are good too, those those tend to be pretty good.
Speaker 2: But this, this tastes like the the Shoots fresh squeezed IPA.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's good. You've tried both.
Speaker 1: So. Burden of Proof is a bottle shop, it's a market.
Speaker 1: It is in South Pasadena and beyond. You can catch
Speaker 1: them really anywhere at Burden of Proof na dot com.
Speaker 6: This is fun.
Speaker 1: It is a thoughtfully curated selection by the way of
Speaker 1: non alcoholic wine, beer, spirit, something for everybody.
Speaker 6: There's also private.
Speaker 1: Events that they do for classes, parties, baby showers, whatever
Speaker 1: you're deal.
Speaker 6: You work with your husband, what's that? What's that like?
Speaker 8: We got married last year and we started a business
Speaker 8: last year, so we're just going all in.
Speaker 5: It's great so far.
Speaker 8: We actually compliment each other really well, and we both
Speaker 8: come from the film and video production world, and it's
Speaker 8: kind of like, once you've done that, I think you
Speaker 8: can do anything.
Speaker 3: Everything else is calm by by comparison.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, the sparkling the sparkling white is tastes exactly
Speaker 1: like a bottle.
Speaker 6: Is it blank, it's blanked.
Speaker 5: It's made with chardonay grapes up in Healdsberg.
Speaker 1: It's got taste exactly the same. Those are great, that's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done that.
Speaker 6: I've never done, never done I've never had any of
Speaker 6: those before.
Speaker 3: That's never tried that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: We have tastings every Friday and Saturday, just totally free
Speaker 8: because it is so important to try this. A lot
Speaker 8: of people think, oh, oh, duels, I don't want to
Speaker 8: take exactly, that's the thing.
Speaker 6: It's like, it's odus.
Speaker 3: Are near beer was the only comparison.
Speaker 1: It's like I was thinking, well, what's the point, you know,
Speaker 1: But it's like there there is a point. It's to
Speaker 1: be festive with your friends at our drinking or what
Speaker 1: have you.
Speaker 3: Totally it's with your lushy friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 8: Well it's the ritual of having something just ahday in
Speaker 8: your hands, right right right, make for all the difference.
Speaker 2: Obriana McReynolds again owner of Burden of Proof. You can
Speaker 2: check them out burden of Proof na dot com. Also
Speaker 2: burden of Proof NA is the social media handle on
Speaker 2: Instagram TikTok. You can find them on Facebook. Burden of Proof.
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming in today. Nice surprise.
Speaker 7: Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
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Speaker 1: It's so much fun playing into weird conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3: Af I AM six forty live everywhere on the ihard.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is spend a couple of
Speaker 1: days in the algorithm on Twitter that that exposes you
Speaker 1: to the Venezuelans. Venezuelans are storming the homes and the
Speaker 1: Haitians are eating your dogs.
Speaker 6: To really get into it, the fan is so rich
Speaker 6: old days.
Speaker 2: Federal judge has temporarily blocked President Trump's executive order that
Speaker 2: ends the constitutional sorry that would end the constitutional guarantee
Speaker 2: of birthright citizenship regardless of the parents immigration status. The
Speaker 2: District Judge John Kunauer ruled today in the case brought
Speaker 2: by the states of Washington, Arizona, Illinois, and Oregon. This
Speaker 2: is just one of the cases against that executive order.
Speaker 2: The states have argued that the Fourteenth Amendment and Supreme
Speaker 2: Court case law have cemented birthright citizenship and really the
Speaker 2: only way to change that would be to pass a
Speaker 2: constitutional amendment.
Speaker 1: Have you heard the rumors about Barack Obama and Jennifer Aniston.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that that's where it ends.
Speaker 6: While the Times of India.
Speaker 3: Ah, the old Times of India.
Speaker 1: Hey, it references a post on X that has gone viral.
Speaker 1: Okay that a friend of Jennifer Aniston said everyone close
Speaker 1: to her knows she is dating Barack Obama. He's with
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston, my old friend, now, my old manager, now
Speaker 1: a friend is connected to her inner circle. At a
Speaker 1: gathering with Jennifer's friends, the affair came up casually. Jennifer
Speaker 1: herself admitted it. They were seated with a psychic, which
Speaker 1: made it sound surreal. But it's definitely not a secret
Speaker 1: among the closest friends. Well, sometimes girlfriends have a psychic
Speaker 1: come in for like a girl's night, and they do readings.
Speaker 1: And I've seen it on The Housewives a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Go on, why are you looking at me like I
Speaker 1: do this? Said it like that, you said like you
Speaker 1: have taken I.
Speaker 3: Have done this.
Speaker 6: I have never done this time.
Speaker 1: No, my parents went to a psychic for years, and
Speaker 1: now wrap your head around that. As a child, the
Speaker 1: two people making decisions for you are going to a
Speaker 1: freaking psychic.
Speaker 6: Holy hell anyway. Yeah, apparently it's.
Speaker 1: All about a leaked DM and this thing has picked
Speaker 1: up some traction. Not just the Times of India, Oh no,
Speaker 1: there are other outlets like the hind.
Speaker 6: Times, Times becomingsoon dot net.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of comingsoon dot net India today.
Speaker 1: Apparently India is all over. This story makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Somebody was heating up chicken tika masala in the break
Speaker 1: room earlier and now I can't stop thinking of.
Speaker 3: Butter chicken last nime?
Speaker 2: You did?
Speaker 3: Did It's really good?
Speaker 6: Was it homemade?
Speaker 1: I love some homemade buttered chicken in real Do you
Speaker 1: have any non with it? Do you like garlic? Non?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Do you like cheese filled?
Speaker 2: Non?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 6: Me too?
Speaker 2: You could you could have put anything after cheese filled,
Speaker 2: and I probably would have.
Speaker 3: Said, yeh.
Speaker 1: Do you like the grain sauce? What kind of sauce
Speaker 1: do you like with your non? I'm don't you just
Speaker 1: go straight to butter?
Speaker 6: More butter? You just I could just dip it into
Speaker 6: the butter sauce.
Speaker 3: B it's fine.
Speaker 1: I got a loaf of sourdough bread yesterday and got
Speaker 1: into the butter.
Speaker 3: Really good.
Speaker 1: Where to go? Where that loaf of bread go? It's
Speaker 1: in the car. Mm hmm, you think I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: The Senate has advanced the nomination of Pete Heggseth as
Speaker 2: the Trump's Defense Secretary. This vote pushes him towards confirmation,
Speaker 2: despite some objections from Democrats and at least a couple
Speaker 2: of Republicans who have said that they are uneasy to
Speaker 2: Republicans right now. Senator is Lisa Mkowski of Alaska and
Speaker 2: Susan Collins Maine did break ranks. They have opposed Hegseth
Speaker 2: and said as much. But this former combat vet former
Speaker 2: Fox News host is facing allegations of excessive drinking and
Speaker 2: aggressive actions towards women, which he has denied. A final
Speaker 2: confirmation vote is expected tomorrow. The Senate, meanwhile, did confirm
Speaker 2: Trump's pick to lead the CIA. John Ratcliffe, was Director
Speaker 2: of National Intelligence during the first term and is the
Speaker 2: first person who have held that position and the top
Speaker 2: post at the CIA. Fire Wise, we're just watching what's
Speaker 2: going on with the Hughes fire. Thankfully, conditions there have
Speaker 2: greatly improved from where we were twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 2: It did increase overnight a small bit. It's at ten
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy eight acres around Castake Lake and
Speaker 2: at containment is at about twenty four percent for the
Speaker 2: most part. The evacuation areas those heavily populated neighborhoods for
Speaker 2: the most part, are under either evacuation warnings or have
Speaker 2: had their evacuation warnings listed. Most of the areas that
Speaker 2: are still under evacuation orders are pretty sparsely populated.
Speaker 1: And may I please have some storytime music to tease
Speaker 1: our next story?
Speaker 3: Sure? It was wait a minute, I know it kind of.
Speaker 1: It was twenty fifteen on Japan's forested island of a
Speaker 1: Yakushima when a mail macaq.
Speaker 6: Jumped onto the back of a female deer. What did
Speaker 6: the bacock then try to do.
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 6: It's not rare, It's not the first time, and it
Speaker 6: won't be the last.
Speaker 3: You said, Oh, Bob, it's just kids, Steph.
Speaker 6: Gary and Shannon will return with strange science.
Speaker 7: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 7: AM six forty.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I toyed with the idea of going to see that
Speaker 1: just because I love The Lion King. You forget how
Speaker 1: dark The Lion King is until you revisit it. And
Speaker 1: Disney Movie but I didn't remember it being so dark.
Speaker 1: Poor little Simba.
Speaker 2: Before we get to strange science, another recall maybe on
Speaker 2: the horizon for governor news.
Speaker 6: Oh I heard about this?
Speaker 2: Is this from kitson Saving California. Is this newly formed
Speaker 2: coalition They want to serve him with official recall papers
Speaker 2: citing our rising taxes, cost of living, ineffective emergency responses,
Speaker 2: population decline.
Speaker 3: Randy Economy is the group's founder.
Speaker 6: Okay, we know him.
Speaker 2: This would be the eighth attempt to recall Governor Nusom sins.
Speaker 1: He's usually involved with all of them. I think, all right,
Speaker 1: it is time for strange science.
Speaker 7: Sence. It's like weird science, but strange.
Speaker 6: Well, you've been.
Speaker 1: Talking about this all day, and I can understand why
Speaker 1: it would stick in your cra there. It's odd when
Speaker 1: you think about monkeys and deer having sexy times together.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's not sexy, maybe it's just for survival.
Speaker 2: So you were talking this story on the island of Yakushima,
Speaker 2: male macock monkey jumped onto the back of a female
Speaker 2: seek a deer and tried to make one.
Speaker 1: Now it's important to understand the social status of the
Speaker 1: macock the macaw. What kind of low ranking status, which
Speaker 1: they believed maybe driving the unusual behavior, like maybe the
Speaker 1: male macoq.
Speaker 5: Is not.
Speaker 3: Man enough or monkey enough.
Speaker 1: Monkey enough to hook up with the female maccox because
Speaker 1: they are put on a pedestal, so they went to
Speaker 1: the lesser thought of species when it comes to the
Speaker 1: macawk world of the deer, and it's like, ah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to hook up with a
Speaker 1: female maccoq, so I'm going to hook up with this.
Speaker 2: Dough right here. Okay, that's fine. But in twenty eighteen
Speaker 2: it happened again, but the roles were reversed. Five female
Speaker 2: maccoqs were riding and rubbing male deer.
Speaker 1: I could do without you saying the phrase riding and
Speaker 1: rubbing male deer.
Speaker 6: I know it says that right here in the article.
Speaker 6: I understand that.
Speaker 1: So this is a totally new area that you speak
Speaker 1: up as well. This was near Osaka, which is like
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy miles away from Yakushima across the
Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean. So it's not like one monkey saw this
Speaker 1: other macoque bone in the deer and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I heard we can get with deer.
Speaker 6: Now let's go it's go on a.
Speaker 1: Deer hunt, and the five chicks, the five female maccocks,
Speaker 1: are like, let's go find us some deer and if
Speaker 1: the question I see it.
Speaker 3: Happen question technical, Yeah, you said that he was bring.
Speaker 2: Isn't an attempted I mean, just just to clarify feel
Speaker 2: it feels like there should be like did the deed
Speaker 2: get done?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think it is. I think this guy. Listen,
Speaker 3: this same.
Speaker 6: Mighty nose is also done. You know the sex organs
Speaker 6: of deer Nora.
Speaker 2: Maccox pretty similar to there's a other mammal and a
Speaker 2: place for it.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, that's an interesting way to put it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep it.
Speaker 2: Have a children lot be twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. They saw these same deer mounting behavior
Speaker 2: and they believe it's the same monkey each time. They
Speaker 2: said that this one based on his almond shaped eyes,
Speaker 2: although they can't be absolutely certain. They haven't tagged him
Speaker 2: or spray painted him.
Speaker 5: He's in a deer.
Speaker 6: You had that one friend that was into something different, right.
Speaker 3: Dave, Dave, Dave, do you know anything about Dave?
Speaker 6: Dave's always into different.
Speaker 2: Now the male has ascended to a dominant rank, the
Speaker 2: females around him might be doing it too. And that said,
Speaker 2: the behavior is changing over time. Maybe the first time
Speaker 2: he did it was because of frustration. So for one specific.
Speaker 1: Purpose liking a blonde versus a brunette. Right, maybe this
Speaker 1: month is absolutely just like deer and not into other monkeys.
Speaker 3: But you're saying that.
Speaker 5: I don't think you should.
Speaker 1: I don't think that you should have to stick to
Speaker 1: your species if you're a monkey, like maybe you don't
Speaker 1: find the macocks attractive. So maybe that monkey looks in
Speaker 1: the mirror and it's not like uh, maybe he sees
Speaker 1: a deer and he's like peaceful regal.
Speaker 2: This is not just I mean, this is this is
Speaker 2: a new level for the relationship between the deer and
Speaker 2: the monkeys on this island. Because they said the deer
Speaker 2: often follow monkeys around, they eat food that they drop
Speaker 2: out of the trees, and they nibble on monkey feces.
Speaker 6: Interesting, maybe that's where I go, and.
Speaker 2: Then the monkeys will munch on the ticks and other
Speaker 2: parasites that they groom from the deer.
Speaker 1: So could it be a territorial thing where the Macoque
Speaker 1: sees the deer in its feces and other things, and
Speaker 1: it's like, stay away from my stuff, and so you
Speaker 1: like attacks the deer at tax him.
Speaker 2: Well that's what no. I think it's more of they
Speaker 2: have learned to coexists. They have this symbiotic relationship. And
Speaker 2: then whatever happened, Like it used to be that the
Speaker 2: deer would pick something up that the monkey dropped out
Speaker 2: of the tree, and then it became the monkey grabs
Speaker 2: a tick off the deer and eat it, and then
Speaker 2: it just kind of escalates whatever The next behavior up
Speaker 2: on the thing is.
Speaker 1: Can I get to the love portion of the event?
Speaker 3: I don't know if there is such a thing, but
Speaker 3: go on.
Speaker 1: There is because listen to this most of the time.
Speaker 1: This is according to a paper published in the journal Primates.
Speaker 1: It's a very good journal. It's the best, the best
Speaker 1: of all the Primates journals. Most of the accounts are
Speaker 1: involving a monkey that seems to just jump up onto
Speaker 1: the deer's back and rest and sleep.
Speaker 3: They just wanted to cuddle.
Speaker 1: They just want to cuddle. They just want the warmth,
Speaker 1: the bodily contact. That's the thing, guys. It's not just
Speaker 1: about the sex. It's about the sleeping and the cuddling
Speaker 1: between the deer.
Speaker 2: How many times do have to tell that to women?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just about they just want someone to hold
Speaker 2: on to. I think that's true. It's not true. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe strong way to end. Well, thanks for ruining love.
Speaker 2: If you listen any part of our Monkey Deer Love stories,
Speaker 2: you can always go back and listen on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Just go to kfiam six forty dot com slash Gary
Speaker 2: and Shannon.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, most of the time the deer and
Speaker 1: the maccocks were seen together, they were just chilling.
Speaker 6: They were just snapping and cuddling.
Speaker 2: One guy took it too far. He's got to ruin
Speaker 2: it for everybody.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: We were talking to someone earlier about how long we've
Speaker 1: been doing this show, and you said, we're coming up
Speaker 1: on nine years.
Speaker 3: No, we are in nine years, okay whatever, this is
Speaker 3: our tenth year.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, and then we do segments like that and you
Speaker 1: wonder why, and I wonder why.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what the future holds, won't.
Speaker 6: Wait, John, This is all John's fault.
Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show's coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow.
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