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<v Speaker 1>On the morning of September twentieth, nineteen eighty eight, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old Tara Calico set out on her daily bike

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<v Speaker 1>ride along a quiet stretch of road in Valencia County,

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico, and was never seen again. Then, a year

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<v Speaker 1>after she vanished, a disturbing discovery came to light. A

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<v Speaker 1>polaroid photograph found in a Florida parking lot appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>show a young woman bound and gagged, and she bore

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<v Speaker 1>a striking resemblance to Tara. This is the story of

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<v Speaker 1>a young woman's disappearance who became one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>haunting missing person's faces in American history. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Tara Calico.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked Ingram, a.

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<v Speaker 3>True crime podcast following a real intended audience. Listeners, you

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<v Speaker 3>ready for this one?

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<v Speaker 2>I am?

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<v Speaker 1>You are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one way to bring in the weekend, because Happy Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's a pretty well known one, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I've definitely heard of this one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very well known episode. This case is

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the most well known missing person's cases

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<v Speaker 1>in the US. It's quite the.

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<v Speaker 2>Story it is. Yeah. I mean I don't know all

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<v Speaker 2>the details, of course, but I know a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll get into some of it. And it's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been going for a long time. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>thirty it's a thirty seven year old case.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, see I forgot it was that old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nineteen eighty eight. So it's dam Unfortunately, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a solved case. I know a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>like those ones where it's not solved. But hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking this morning. Majority of true crime isn't solved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't just not cover ones that are not mysteries, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is a bit different in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that, you know, it's also like putting awareness out there,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose, right where the other ones, like, if they're unsolved,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you're not finding the douche canoe or as

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<v Speaker 2>you put it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, and that's the thing. We want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>awareness to some of these victims in some of the cases,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully, hey, maybe someone out there who's listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this knows something, maybe knows a detail that pops up

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<v Speaker 1>and realizes they have some information.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, someone knows something. That's always the case.

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<v Speaker 1>So, right, someone does know something? Yeah, are you just

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<v Speaker 1>ready to dive into it? Should we? Yeah, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>do it, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Tara Lake Kaliko was born on February twenty eighth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine, in New Mexico. At nineteen, she was a

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore in college. She was balancing at three point nine

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<v Speaker 1>gpa while studying psychology at the University of New Mexico's

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<v Speaker 1>Valencia campus. She was driven, intelligent, and athletic. She had

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<v Speaker 1>plans for her future future honestly, one that was really bright. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>just as bright as her personality is. What a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say, Oh that's always the worst, right, if only

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<v Speaker 2>you could be a missing person was like they were

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<v Speaker 2>a complete piece of shit. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, this person just like hated everybody. They

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<v Speaker 1>kicked dogs, they were miserable. Yeah, but it's always like

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<v Speaker 1>just this glowing human.

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<v Speaker 2>Right they're missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I want anyone to go missing, but well no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>People who knew her described her as thoughtful and inclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of person who went out of her way

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<v Speaker 1>to make others feel seen. Her childhood friend Melinda once

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<v Speaker 1>described Tara as someone who would do the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>even when no one was looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, oh that kind of person. That's special, especially too,

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<v Speaker 2>where you just said is inclusive of everyone, right like that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's rare, So it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, I think, especially in today's world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now, Tara's days were also very full. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a very full kind of person. But her days were

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<v Speaker 1>packed full too. She loved a lot of things. She

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<v Speaker 1>would have tennis matches with her boyfriend Jack Cole, She'd

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<v Speaker 1>have her school work, you know, going hanging out with friends, laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>having fun, and long bike rides through the sun scorched

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<v Speaker 1>roads of bilein the small town where she called home.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd lived there with her mother, Patty Dwell, and stepfather

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<v Speaker 1>John Dowell, and siblings after her parents divorced. Blen was quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>It was close knit, and it was the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>place where crime felt more like fiction than a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably one of those places where people didn't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>locking their doors sort of thing too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Tara was constantly in motion. She loved being outdoors, loved routines,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially loved cycling. Her favorite route stretched thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>miles around trip seventeen miles along the highway forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeen miles.

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<v Speaker 2>Back good for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She took this route almost every day, often listening to

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<v Speaker 1>music on her walkman as she wrote, and sometimes her

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<v Speaker 1>mother would joined her on these rides as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>that had recently stopped. Patty had recently become uneasy about

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<v Speaker 1>those bike rides. On more than one occasion, she had

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<v Speaker 1>the unsettling feeling that they were being followed by a

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<v Speaker 1>driver who had never made themselves known. So spooked, Patty

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<v Speaker 1>eventually stopped going, and she told Tara to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>and even urged her to carry Mace along the route too,

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<v Speaker 1>But Ta, very independent and strong willed, just brushed it off.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to live in fear, right, She wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to do the things that she loved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this, honestly would be a chilling detail in hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the kind of warning that only takes shape

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<v Speaker 1>after it's too late, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Oh dang, And then I'm sure the mom is

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<v Speaker 2>just like wishing she stopped her daughter as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but how do you right? You can't stop a

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<v Speaker 1>person from living well, live in fear constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, yeah, she's an adult too, right and can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of make her own decisions and stuff at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>So yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the morning of Tuesday, September twentieth, nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>it began like any other day for Tera. She left

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<v Speaker 1>her family home on Brugg Street in Blen, New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>around nine thirty am. Dressed for comfort and speed, a

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<v Speaker 1>white T shirt with the words First National Bank of Bolen,

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<v Speaker 1>white shorts with green stripes, white ankle socks, and white

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<v Speaker 1>and turquoise avia tennis shoes. She wore a few pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of jewelry, a gold butterfly ring with a diamond insert,

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<v Speaker 1>a gold Amesis ring, and half inch gold hoop earrings,

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<v Speaker 1>small details that would later help authorities piece together her description.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Her own bike was unfortunately out of commission, so she

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<v Speaker 1>rode her mother's that day. It was a bright neon,

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<v Speaker 1>pink Huffey mountain bike with yellow control cables and matching sidewalls.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard to miss, so was Tara. She stood

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<v Speaker 1>between five foot five and five foot seven inches tall,

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<v Speaker 1>weighing around one hundred and fifteen to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty pounds, and had brown hair, a cowlic on her

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<v Speaker 1>right temple, and hazel eyes. Her destination that morning was

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<v Speaker 1>her usual thirty six mile loop around Highway forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>a mostly isolated, open stretched road that she knew very well.

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<v Speaker 1>She was planning to be back home before noon, just

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<v Speaker 1>in time to play tennis with her boyfriend. So she

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<v Speaker 1>had a tennis appointment with her boyfriend at twelve thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>and usually she didn't go out riding this early, so

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of like was making sure that she got

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<v Speaker 1>her ride in for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Which she was.

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<v Speaker 1>She always went for this ride unless like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>weather pending, you know, it's storming or super bad rain,

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<v Speaker 1>so she rarely missed it. She rarely missed it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she went out a little bit earlier on this

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<v Speaker 1>day just to make sure that she could squeeze her

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<v Speaker 1>ride in before going out to play tennis with her

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend at twelve thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for her, that is, like, that's an active lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>She was very active. She loved being active, and she

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<v Speaker 1>loved to make sure that she was going to continue that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's very busy with her studies and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>friend's family life, all these sort of things. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that there's time for these things. So before leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>she made an offhand comment to her mother quote, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not back by noon, come looking for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's kind of like daunting considering what happens. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was more so playful with joke. It was well,

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<v Speaker 1>because like she's she's she's got things to do. She's

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<v Speaker 1>very much so a scheduled person, sticks to the schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, if she's not back by noon, she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be late for twelve thirty with her boyfriend playing tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's like, if I'm not back by noon, like

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<v Speaker 1>come get me because I'm I'm late. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>her attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but definitely a little bit eerie.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's eerie for sure. And of course something like

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<v Speaker 1>that would probably stay with her mom for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time too. Unfortunately, now as it pass the hours passed,

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve pm came and went, Patty you do well

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<v Speaker 1>started to worry. It was at twelve oh five, five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after when her daughter was supposed to be back home,

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<v Speaker 1>that she got in the car and began driving Tara's

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<v Speaker 1>usual route. She expected to find her daughter pedaling back.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe dealing with a flat tire, just running a little late,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what, But the road was empty. Patty drove

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<v Speaker 1>all the way out to the train tracks where Tara

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<v Speaker 1>would typically turn around, and still nothing. She retraced the drive.

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<v Speaker 1>No Tara, no pink bike, no sign of anything out

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<v Speaker 1>of place. By the time she returned home, her panic

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<v Speaker 1>had taken over as she was still not there.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang.

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<v Speaker 1>She called Tara's boyfriend, who hadn't heard from her. Then

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<v Speaker 1>she called the police. At first, some thought Tara might

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<v Speaker 1>have just changed her plans or lost track of time,

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<v Speaker 1>but this wasn't like her. She was punctual and responsible,

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<v Speaker 1>and Patty made this clear. This wasn't typical teenage disappearance

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<v Speaker 1>type scenario. Tara was someone who never veered from routine

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<v Speaker 1>or made impulsive decisions. She had plans that day, she

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<v Speaker 1>had responsibilities. She would have been home by now to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that she saw those out, which is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>why the hints of if I'm not home by twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't come get me, because she was making sure

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<v Speaker 1>she was sticking to those plants.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a problem kind of thing, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So responding officers from the Valencia County sheriff's office took

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<v Speaker 1>the report seriously, recognizing the urgency. Within hours, friends, neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>and law enforcement were out scouring the quiet desert road

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<v Speaker 1>where Tara often rode her root along the Highway forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, was initially just a daily routine thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>now it was the focus of a full scale search.

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<v Speaker 1>The community had mobilized quickly. People were searching on foot, horseback,

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<v Speaker 1>by car. Helicopters were even brought in to scan from

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<v Speaker 1>the skies. Boats patrolled nearby stretches of the Rio Grande Rotc.

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<v Speaker 1>Students from nearby Albuquerque even joined in, covering miles of

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<v Speaker 1>any trace of her, and as the sun dipped behind

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<v Speaker 1>the New Mexico horizon, the air turned colder, and so

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<v Speaker 2>They were on this though, Hey, they were because lots

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<v Speaker 2>of times there's been cases where you have to wait like,

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<v Speaker 2>but like not in this one. They were just like boom.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it had a little bit to do with

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<v Speaker 1>in what her mom did, Like this was not normal behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>She was supposed to be back by twelve. She had

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<v Speaker 1>all these scheduled things. She was a punctual individual. This

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<v Speaker 2>Well and someone like heard that too, though, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, someone did here, that's you're right, someone took that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the other part of the puzzle for sure. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>over the next five days, the search intensified. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>and one that wasn't giving up its answers very easily.

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<v Speaker 1>On September twenty first, just one day after Tara Kalico

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<v Speaker 1>of where she had last been seen. The first discovery

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<v Speaker 1>broken sony walkman bright yellow plastic pieces that were cracked

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<v Speaker 1>and scuffed. Nearby, a cassette tape was found partially ejected

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<v Speaker 1>from its case. The magnetic film unspooled and tangled in

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<v Speaker 1>the tape belonged to her daughter didn't seem like litter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was developing debris like Tara had been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the trail or something. A little farther down the highway,

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<v Speaker 1>investigators noted something even more unsettling, tire tracks veering sharply

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<v Speaker 1>off the road, alongside what looked like bike tracks and

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<v Speaker 1>scuffle marks in the dirt. Some described the tire impressions

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<v Speaker 1>as spun out, quote unquote, as if the vehicle had

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly accelerated or swerved. The pink Huffey bike, however, was

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<v Speaker 1>never found. Despite the damage to the walkman and the

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<v Speaker 1>scattered debris, there was no blood, There was no clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>no sign of a struggle that left obvious marks. But

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<v Speaker 1>the implication was loud and clear. Something had happened here

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<v Speaker 1>and it involved Tara. In the days that followed, multiple

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses came forward to report having seen Tara along her

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<v Speaker 1>route that morning. Several recall a white or light colored

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<v Speaker 1>pickup truck, possibly a nineteen fifty three Ford with a

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<v Speaker 1>camper shell, following her closely In one account, the truck

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<v Speaker 1>was creeping behind her at an unusual speed, sometimes even

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<v Speaker 1>partially on the shoulder. Another witness saw what looked like

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<v Speaker 1>more than one person in the vehicle. One man said

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<v Speaker 1>he saw someone running from the front of the truck

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<v Speaker 1>over to the passenger side before the vehicle then sped off.

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<v Speaker 1>These were not random reports. The truck, its erratic movements,

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<v Speaker 1>and the timing all pointed to a potential abduction. A

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<v Speaker 1>composite sketch of the driver, described as a white male

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<v Speaker 1>around thirty five to forty five years old, about six

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<v Speaker 1>feet tall, with red hair and noticeable crow's feet on

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<v Speaker 1>around his eyes, was released to the public. In all, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of sounds like me, except I got a

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<v Speaker 1>beard and no red hair. I got those crow feet though,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well isn't okay? Like what is that's kind of from

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<v Speaker 2>like smiling and stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like wrinkling. Yeah, it's like the lines coming off

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes. It happens when you smile. It's more prominent

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<v Speaker 1>than for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I almost feel like it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of describes like a happier person. So I

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<v Speaker 2>almost was like alarmed when I heard that, but well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like those crow feet, like if you WinCE

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes, you squint your eyes, those crow feet appear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Just your photographer. Mine's taken over, I think so. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>despite these efforts in the circulation of the image, though

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<v Speaker 1>no solid leads came of it, Terra's pink bike had vanished,

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<v Speaker 1>and so did she. The pieces were beginning to come together,

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<v Speaker 1>but the picture was still painfully and complete, and as

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<v Speaker 1>October turned to November, the search lost momentum. There were

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<v Speaker 1>no sightings, no new ones at LEAs, no arrests, no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that pointed to where she could possibly have gone

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<v Speaker 1>or where she would be. It just was running into

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<v Speaker 1>a dead end, that's about it. Like what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do from there?

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the worst I feel like that is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know how like a friend, a parent, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend would deal with that, just like they just like

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<v Speaker 2>vanished from thin air, like poof gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, for her family, this was unbearable. Her mother, Patty,

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<v Speaker 1>refused to believe Tara was just simply gone. She was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly somewhere out there. You know, someone knew something, that

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<v Speaker 1>someone would have seen something, happen. She continued to press

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement, push for updates, and maintain a high public

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<v Speaker 1>profile to keep Tara's name in the headlights headlines. Either

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<v Speaker 1>way you say it, I guess headlines is what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said headlights.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for her mom. I just have to say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>her mom's doing what she can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big portion of making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>these missing person's cases don't fade into obscurity. Needs an advocate, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need someone who pushes. And it's easy to trust

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<v Speaker 1>in local authorities in your area to say, Okay, they're

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<v Speaker 1>handling it. They're doing their job. They're doing their job, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not media people. They're not going to push

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone around to hear the story and keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the story and keep leads coming in. Yeah they

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<v Speaker 1>might do, you know, public releases and press releases once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. But to be an advocate and pushing

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<v Speaker 1>and even pushing the police to keep doing their stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is it's good. I mean, we can all think about

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<v Speaker 1>it in our daily lives. To have someone there to

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<v Speaker 1>push you to keep doing what you need to do,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing and it gets things done well.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is the police have, like, you know, numerous

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<v Speaker 2>cases and stuff they're dealing with the new ones coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and stuff, right, So yeah, for sure, just to

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<v Speaker 2>have that little like voice that's like houses coming along,

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<v Speaker 2>like are we still working on this? Yeah, not a

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<v Speaker 2>bad thing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, exactly as you put an advocate, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what many people need in these situations. But unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>by nineteen eighty nine, the case had stalled. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>new leads, no fresh evidence, no break in the case.

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<v Speaker 1>In the public eye, the disappearance of Tarra Calico was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to feel like one of those tragic small town

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries that might never be able to be solved. Law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement agencies had exhausted their available eight avenues, and investigators

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing solid to work with then out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine months after she vanished, the case would explode back

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<v Speaker 1>into national conversation because of a single disturbing photograph found

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<v Speaker 1>nearly one thousand, five hundred miles away. It was June fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine, nearly nine months since Terra Calico had vanished,

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<v Speaker 1>when a woman in Port Saint Joe, Florida, stepped out

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<v Speaker 1>of a convenience store into the parking law and noticed

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<v Speaker 1>something odd on the ground. There. Left behind in a

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<v Speaker 1>recently vacated parking space was a Polaride photo. The image

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<v Speaker 1>was immediately jarring to this individual when they picked it

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<v Speaker 1>up and looked. It was of a teenage girl and

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<v Speaker 1>a young boy, both lying side by side on what

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a mattress. Their mouths were sealed shut with

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<v Speaker 1>black duct tape, their hands appeared to be bound behind

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<v Speaker 1>their backs, and the setting looked cramped, possibly in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of a van. The photo was grim and terrifying,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was something else, something that gave it weight.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl bore a striking resemblance to Tara Kalico, The

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<v Speaker 1>woman who found the photo didn't hesitate. She handed it

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<v Speaker 1>over to police right away. She also reported that just

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<v Speaker 1>moments before discovering it, she had seen a white, windowless

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<v Speaker 1>Toyota van pull out of that same parking spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man.

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<v Speaker 1>The driver, she said, was a man in his thirties

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<v Speaker 1>with a mustache. It was a vague description but one

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<v Speaker 1>that matched, you know, countless men across the county. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was at least something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it was something, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Police set up roadblocks, but nothing came of it still.

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<v Speaker 1>When the photo aired on the TV program A Current

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<v Speaker 1>Affair in July, it was instantly recognizable to people who

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<v Speaker 1>knew Tara. Friends called her mother, telling her to turn

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<v Speaker 1>on the TV. When Patti Duell saw the image, she froze.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a scar in the girl's leg. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the same place where Tara had won from a past

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<v Speaker 1>car accident, and lying beside her was a paperback copy

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<v Speaker 1>of My Suite Adrina by VC Andrews, a book that

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<v Speaker 1>was Tara's favorite book by her favorite author.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>To Patty, it was her daughter, old, a little older,

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<v Speaker 1>looked tired, but it was still Tara.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she would have changed so much in those nine months,

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<v Speaker 2>because it clearly it looks like she's gone through shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now to the FBI, the Scotland Yard and the

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<v Speaker 1>Los Alamos National Laboratory were all brought in to analyze

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<v Speaker 1>the photo. The Scotland Yard concluded, yes, this was in

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<v Speaker 1>fact Tara. The Los Angeles, sorry, Los Alamos, I should

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<v Speaker 1>say not Los Angeles. I saw the la in my

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<v Speaker 1>head and it just dinged. But they disagreed, and the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>to them it was inconclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't say either way, okay, because just there I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, dang, I didn't realize they had determined

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<v Speaker 2>that was her from the photo. But just certain people have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, one said yes, one said no, and one said

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. So we have a literal split down the center.

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<v Speaker 2>But the mom did think it was her, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Based yeah, okay, yeah, she believes it's her in that photo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the boy in the photo. Another family, also from

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<v Speaker 1>New Mexico, was struck with disbelief. The boy in the photo,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, looked exactly like their missing son, Michael Henley. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael had disappeared five months before Tara in April of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight, during a camping trip from Zuni Mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>around seventy five miles from where Tara had gone missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, he was just nine years old. Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one moment he was near his family's campsite with his father,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next he was gone. A full scale

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<v Speaker 1>search had turned up nothing. His parents, Marty and Ernest Henley,

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<v Speaker 1>watched that same A Current Affair broadcast and felt the

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<v Speaker 1>same jolt Tara's family had. The resemblance was uncanny, the face, expression,

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<v Speaker 1>even the eyes. Michael looked frightened but alive. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to be him, his mother told reporters. He looked scared,

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<v Speaker 1>real scared, but he looked healthy, and I'm grateful for that.

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<v Speaker 1>For a time, the theory took hold that Tara and

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<v Speaker 1>Michael had been abducted by the same person, possibly someone

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<v Speaker 1>operating across state lines, possibly with ties to human trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>The photo had been taken using Polaroid film that was

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<v Speaker 1>not available before May nineteen eighty nine, meaning that it

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<v Speaker 1>had been captured months after both had gone missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because here I was just sitting here thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like that could be you know, an old photo could be.

421
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<v Speaker 1>So authorities actually reached out to Polaroid to help get

422
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<v Speaker 1>some information, and they told him that, yeah, this film

423
00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:12.839
<v Speaker 1>had been released at this day. Oh okay, So May

424
00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:16.079
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine is the earliest that photo could have

425
00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:20.759
<v Speaker 1>been taken because that film was not available before then. Okay, yep,

426
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Speaker 1>so could this be a serial abduction trafficking ring? Those

427
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>are the sort of questions like was to Terosty alive?

428
00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Was he being held captive? Hope surged briefly for both families,

429
00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:36.799
<v Speaker 1>but then in June nineteen ninety, a devastating discovery brought closure,

430
00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:42.079
<v Speaker 1>at least for the Henleys. Michael Henley's remains were found

431
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.680
<v Speaker 1>about seven miles from the family's original campsite in a

432
00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.799
<v Speaker 1>remote part of the Zuni Mountains. His death was ruled accidental,

433
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the result of exposure to the elements. Authorities concluded that

434
00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they liked that he likely wandered off, had gotten lost,

435
00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:02.039
<v Speaker 1>and had passed away in the forest. So with that revelation,

436
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the identity of the boy and the polaroid was thrown

437
00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:05.279
<v Speaker 1>back into question.

438
00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Ye.

439
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't Michael, then who was he? And more importantly,

440
00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>was Tara ever in the photograph to begin with?

441
00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Then?

442
00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Two? Was it actually her?

443
00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

444
00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>The photograph found in Florida wasn't the end of it, though.

445
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Over the years, more images surfaced, each of them eerie

446
00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>in their own way, and each riigniting public interest in

447
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>fresh speculation. Every time a new photo appeared, Tara's name,

448
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, every time it came up, every time her

449
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.680
<v Speaker 1>family were taking a look at these photos. It all

450
00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>took a toll, and the first of these additional photos

451
00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>appeared in June of nineteen eighty nine, not long after

452
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<v Speaker 1>the Port Saint Joe picture It was found near a

453
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:47.799
<v Speaker 1>construction site in Montecito, California. It showed a blurry image

454
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>of a girl's face, mouth gagged, with a light blue

455
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and white striped pillow behind her head. Now that fabric

456
00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>on that pillow is really important because that same looking

457
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>can say it's exactly the same. But a very similar

458
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>looking fabric was in the other photo that was found

459
00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:09.599
<v Speaker 1>as well, the one that was found in Florida. Okay,

460
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>so when they look like they're in the back of

461
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.079
<v Speaker 1>the van sort of thing, yeah, blue and white striped

462
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:16.799
<v Speaker 1>pillows is what they're laying on. And now here again

463
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>we have another questionable photograph with a similar fabric, if

464
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>not the same. Patty Dwell, Tara's mother believed it could

465
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>be her daughter once again. Then came another photo in

466
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>February of nineteen ninety, this one a little more perplexing.

467
00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Taken on an Amtrak train, it shows a woman loosely

468
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.599
<v Speaker 1>bound in gauze with her eyes covered, sitting beside a

469
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.880
<v Speaker 1>man whose face was clearly visible. The man was never identified,

470
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.519
<v Speaker 1>and the scene was so bizarre that most people believe

471
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>it was a form of a sick prank or maybe

472
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:47.920
<v Speaker 1>even an art piece.

473
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>What the shit is with all these photos just like

474
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.559
<v Speaker 2>appearing That seems so weird.

475
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, Patty took every one of these photos extremely seriously,

476
00:24:57.839 --> 00:24:59.559
<v Speaker 1>and so did her entire family.

477
00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:02.759
<v Speaker 2>And here someone was just playing a prank, like fuck them. Hey.

478
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So she examined the faces, the angles, the details,

479
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>always looking for something familiar, a scar, facial feature, something,

480
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, something to look for, recognition, to say this

481
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is Tara, something to feel normal, like this is what

482
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember.

483
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, and I was just going to say. The

484
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>problem too, is like these photos probably aren't like the clearest,

485
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:27.519
<v Speaker 2>right A polaroid photo isn't going to be this crystal clear?

486
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, for sure. This third one's much more clear.

487
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a little suspiciously too clear, honestly. Ok The Montecito photo,

488
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.599
<v Speaker 1>the blurry one with where she was gagged, she believes

489
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that is Tara. The first two she believes are in

490
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>fact Tara, but this third one she doesn't think so.

491
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Not so sure, Okay.

492
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and nine, two decades after Tara's disappearance,

493
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>things got even stranger. Three letters postmark from Albertquerque arrived

494
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to the Port Saint Joe Police Department and the local newspaper.

495
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:00.039
<v Speaker 1>Each envelope contained printed images of a boy with a

496
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>black band drawn in ink across his mouth, mimicking the

497
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>original photo. No messages, no return address, nothing to explain

498
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>what the sender wanted or why the boy's face had

499
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>been altered in that way. The photos were then turned

500
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 1>over to the FBI, but no clear connection to Tara

501
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 1>or anyone else has ever been made. But it is.

502
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.839
<v Speaker 1>It's got that little question mark above it. For TERA's family,

503
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 1>every photo came with renewed hope and heartbreak. Over the years,

504
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they were asked to identify dozens of images, many of

505
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>them graphic and disturbing, some showing unidentified bodies. Even each

506
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>one opened an old wound, and none provided closure. These

507
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>images remain one of the strangest and most haunting aspects

508
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 1>of the Terror's Calico case. Whether they were clues, cruel jokes,

509
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>or desperate misidentifications remains unknown, but to date, Tara's mother

510
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.039
<v Speaker 1>believes those first two photos are in fact Tara, and

511
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the rest not.

512
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.799
<v Speaker 2>That is so hart like you said, just like opening

513
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>these wounds with no closure. Yep, dang, I mean yeah,

514
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you got you gotta participate, you gotta look and you

515
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>gotta like, you know, see if this is a clue

516
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but gosh, it would just like destroy you

517
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>at the same time.

518
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>It would it really would, now, whatever the case in

519
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>these photos. For nearly two decades, the disappearance of Tara

520
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Calico remained a mystery with no clear suspects. But then

521
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight, a bold and controversial statement

522
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>from local officials brought a new theory a new hope

523
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:39.319
<v Speaker 1>for some justice. That year, Valencia County Sheriff Rina Riviera

524
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>went on record claiming he knew exactly what happened to Tara.

525
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 1>According to Riviera, two teenage boys reportedly local to the

526
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>area and familiar with Tara, had been following her that

527
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 1>morning in a truck. He believed they were harassing her,

528
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>perhaps tailgating her or cat calling her. When the situation escalated,

529
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Tara may have tried to get way. Then the truck

530
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>struck her, either on purpose or by accident. She was

531
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>injured but alive. Panicked, Rivia said, the boys took her

532
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>into their vehicle to silence her and keep her from

533
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>going to the authorities over the situation, and from there

534
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 1>it just escalated and it turned fatal. He claimed. The

535
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 1>teenagers later killed her and with the help of others,

536
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>buried her body somewhere in Valencia County. Riviera said he

537
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 1>knew the names of everyone involved, but there was a catch.

538
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>There's no body so there could be no charges.

539
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 2>How do you just know this? Like where was he

540
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>getting this from? Though?

541
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Through whatever investigation that's going on behind the scenes? Assumingly okay, Now,

542
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>he refused to name the suspects or produce any physical evidence.

543
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Without Terror's remains or you know, proof, it couldn't be

544
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.559
<v Speaker 1>going to prosecution, So like they got to keep things

545
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>hush hush to try and see if they can move forward, right, But.

546
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Then, honestly, like that story does make sense though too, it.

547
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Does and for TERA's family, like knowing this like you had,

548
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 1>like you know she's dead, you know she's buried out

549
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>there somewhere, you know who killed her, and you can't

550
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 1>do shit like that's agonizing. Oh so John Dowell, Tara's stepfather,

551
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>publicly criticized Riviera's comments. If he truly knew who was responsible,

552
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>why wasn't he making the arrests and if he didn't

553
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 1>have enough evidence, why go public at all?

554
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Because this is this Riviera guy is a police officer,

555
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 2>right or investigator? Okay, that is that would just like

556
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 2>piss me right off?

557
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeap. He's the sheriff the county. He well, he was.

558
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he still is, probably not, Valencia

559
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>County sheriff was okay, yeah. So the theory didn't vanish,

560
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and over time others came forward to support similar versions

561
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of the story too. Interviews conducted with people in the

562
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 1>community include two separate individuals who gave matching accounts described

563
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 1>as to chain of events. Tera was hit, taken, and

564
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>murdered by a group of local boys. According to rumors,

565
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 1>at least one of those boys was related to someone

566
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in law enforcement. Some locals began to suspect a cover up,

567
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a small town secret that are being kept for decades.

568
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 1>One of TERA's childhood friends, Melinda, took it upon herself

569
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to investigate further. A former classmate turned independent journalist, Melinda

570
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 1>launched a podcast and spent years digging into the case.

571
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 1>She claims her research supports the theory that Terara's disappearance

572
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 1>was premeditated, that the group of boys had been planning

573
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 1>to confront her for days before that she actually went missing.

574
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And that her death was the tragic result of a

575
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>calculated act gone horribly wrong.

576
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, Okay, this is all like new information to me.

577
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know any of this. Yeah.

578
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Melinda eventually shared her findings with the FBI, not to

579
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 1>the local sheriff's department, and because she later said that

580
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>she didn't trust how the case had been handled locally.

581
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 1>By now the ones fragmented rumors had. It's kind of

582
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>turned into this like plausible theory with multiple sources. But

583
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 1>even then, no arrests were made, no body was found,

584
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and no one could be held accountable. Then, in the

585
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty tens, a quiet shift began behind the scenes. Law enforcement,

586
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>for the first time in decades, started to act like

587
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>they believed answers were still within reach. In twenty thirteen,

588
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a dedicated six person task force was formed to re

589
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>examine Terror's disappearance. Composed of local officers, FBI agents, and

590
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 1>state police. The team revisited old interviews, cross checked leads,

591
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and combed through the original case files looking for anything

592
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that had been missed or ignored. In twenty seventeen, it

593
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was revealed that the case was not only open, it

594
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 1>was still in fact completely active. New interviews were being conducted,

595
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 1>fresh tips were still coming in, and although no arrests

596
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>have been made, momentum was building. Then came a press

597
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>conference in June of twenty twenty three. After thirty five

598
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 1>years of heartbreak and uncertainty, the Valencia County Sheriff's office,

599
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 1>alongside the FBI, made a public announcement they believed they

600
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 1>had identified the individuals responsible for Terror Kalico's disappearance and

601
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>had enough evidence to submit the case for review. Sheriff

602
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Denise Vigil stated plainly that the investigation had made quote

603
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 1>substantial progress. The information, however, remained sealed under court order,

604
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and the identities of the suspect were not released. FBI

605
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Special Agent Joseph Rowland, who had been working the case

606
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 1>since at least twenty sixteen, confirmed that the new evidence

607
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 1>had been uncovered between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three,

608
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>enough to potentially bring the case before a district attorney

609
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 1>for prosecution. According to investigators, they were simply waiting for

610
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the green light to proceed with charges. As of now,

611
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>no arrests have been made, no charges filed, and the

612
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>names of the suspect and the nature of the evidence

613
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>are still sealed and have not been released. Still, this

614
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>was the most definitive progress the case is seen in

615
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>three decades. Law enforcement for the first time publicly expressed

616
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 1>confidence that they knew what happened to Tara and who

617
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 1>was responsible. In the years since, her family carried the

618
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 1>weight of uncertainty with the kind of endurance that defies explanation.

619
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>They've been going for over thirty years since Ara's disappeared, mother,

620
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Patty Dwell, has perhaps been the most visible and vocal figure.

621
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Throughout the early years, she tirelessly worked to keep Tara's

622
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 1>case in the public eye, appearing on national talk shows,

623
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>speaking to reporters, handing out flyers, and calling in every

624
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>favor she could. The polaroid photo from Florida gave her

625
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>something to cling to. She was convinced the girl was

626
00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>in fact Tara. The scar, the book, the eyes, all

627
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. And because of that belief, Patty held on

628
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to hope, and even after Tara was declared legally dead

629
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety eight with the death rule to homicide,

630
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>she never accepted that it was the end. When Patty

631
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and her husband, John Dowell moved to Florida in their

632
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>later years, she made a space for her daughter. In

633
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 1>their new home, She kept a bedroom ready filled with

634
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Tara's belongings, just in case her daughter came home one day.

635
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Dang, that is that breaks my heart?

636
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. However, time was not kind. Patty's health declined. She

637
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>suffered multiple strokes, and her condition worsened. She would sit

638
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>by the window watching bicycles pass in the street, always wondering,

639
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>was that Tara riding her bike home?

640
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, yeah, oh this is just like it's

641
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>just this obviously is destroying her health and everything holy.

642
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and six, Patty passed away with the

643
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>answers that she'd desperately been trying to hear for at

644
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that point, nearly twenty years searching. Tara's older brother, Chris,

645
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>later said that the weight of the case, the photographs,

646
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 1>the dead ends, and endless stream of unidentified images, had

647
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>taken years off his mother's life. Yep quote she looked

648
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>at everyone she could not, but it tore her up

649
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>every time, every single photograph she looked at, just trying

650
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to see.

651
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the amount of goosewoms I keep getting from this

652
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>like that just is terrible.

653
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 1>John Dowell remained active in seeking public justice. For long

654
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 1>after Patty's passing. Though he was more guarded in public,

655
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 1>his advocacy never wavered. He too since passed away. As

656
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 1>for Tara's sister, Michelle Dowell, she continued her mother's legacy

657
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>in a new era. Michelle has been outspoken and keeping

658
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the case alive, launching efforts like podcast, community awareness campaigns,

659
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and directly engaging with law enforcement. She's repeatedly stated that

660
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 1>someone knows what happened, and that she won't stop until

661
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 1>there is, in fact closure. For Tara's family, time has

662
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>not dulled the pain, but it has only strengthened their resolve.

663
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Even without a body, even without charges, they remain Tara's voice.

664
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>As of today, Tara Kalico's disappearance remains officially unsolved, though

665
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement has signaled they may be closed to resolution eventually. Anyways,

666
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 1>in June of twenty twenty three, they said, you know,

667
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they've progressed, They've identified the individuals, but there's been no arrests,

668
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 1>no names, no evidence. It's all sealed away and adding

669
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to the confusion. Even in May of twenty twenty three,

670
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 1>just one month before the press conference, the Sheriff Office

671
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 1>disputed a long standing piece of case narrative. They stated

672
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that Tara's cassette, tape, and walkman, items widely reported to

673
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>have been found along Highway forty seven, were in fact

674
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 1>never recovered. What This contradicted decades of reporting in multiple

675
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 1>sources that had previously described those items as critical early clues.

676
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>So was it a clerical error, a new interpretation of

677
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 1>old evidence, a sign that official version of the story

678
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was long fractured and they're just now patching it. Theory

679
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>still persist. Some believe Tara was the victim of a

680
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 1>hit and run that turned deadly. Others point to Florida

681
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the Florida Polaroid, suggesting impossible kidnapping and trafficking scenario. Still

682
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 1>others maintained that the small circle in Valencia County, they

683
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what happened, and it's just been hidden for decades.

684
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 1>TERA's pink coffee bike It's never been found, neither have

685
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 1>her remains, and the identity of the boy in the polaroid,

686
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>if not Michael Henley, also remains a mystery. There is

687
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>a twenty thousand dollars reward offered by the FBI that

688
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>is still active for precise details leading to the identification

689
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of Tara or the arrest and conviction of those responsible.

690
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 1>But perhaps the most haunting detail of all, Tara Calico

691
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 1>was declared dead in nineteen ninety eight. Even though our

692
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>case remains open, her story has never faded into obscurity,

693
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 1>not in New Mexico, not across the country, not around

694
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the world, and certainly not in the minds of those

695
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 1>who followed the case for decades. Her story endures not

696
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 1>just because of the mystery, but because of the deep

697
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 1>injustice that it surrounds it. A bright, ambitious young woman

698
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 1>vanished in broad daylight in a place that was supposed

699
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>to be safe, and for all the media attention, investigative

700
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 1>leads an emotional toll. No one has ever ever been

701
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>held accountable. Tara was a college sophomore with a near

702
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>perfect GPA of three point nine. She had plans, a boyfriend,

703
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>tight knit family, a love of fitness and outdoor adventure,

704
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and on the morning of September twentieth, nineteen eighty eight,

705
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 1>she went out for a thirty six mile bike ride

706
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 1>like she had countless times before, and she never came home.

707
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>In the years since, her face has become a symbol

708
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>for the missing. Her case was one of the earliest

709
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to make the national headlines. Through programs like Unsolved Mysteries

710
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 1>and America's Most Wanted, the Florida Polaroid became one of

711
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the most talked about pieces of evidence in American true

712
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:31.639
<v Speaker 1>crime history, debated endlessly in homes and message boards across

713
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 1>the world still even to this day. But behind the

714
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 1>attention is a family that never stopped looking, a mother

715
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 1>who died waiting, a community still wondering if the answers

716
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 1>have been quietly kept all along, and despite recent developments

717
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and a promise from law enforcement, no one has stood trial.

718
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 1>We may now be closer to the truth than ever.

719
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff officials say they know who did it. They claim

720
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>the evidence is there. But for Terra's family, friends and

721
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 1>anyone who's watched this case unfold over the thirty seven years.

722
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Now they know what's been done so far, and it

723
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been enough. They want justice, they want closure, and

724
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>above all, they want Tera to come home. And until

725
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that happens, this case won't rest because Tara never made

726
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 1>it back from her bike ride and we still don't

727
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>know why. And that's the case of Tara Kalico.

728
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Oo Man I have like so many thoughts with that

729
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>one because it doesn't make sense. Okay, the one where

730
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 2>it was just like the locals really makes sense to me.

731
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 2>But it wouldn't make sense if that was her in

732
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that polaroid like found a year later. Yeah, right, that

733
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 2>just that doesn't add up, I guess it.

734
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean it doesn't. I mean, honestly, yeah, it's if

735
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 1>it's a small local thing that had just kind of

736
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>something had gone wrong, and it's something that escalated, then yeah,

737
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of course it wouldn't make sense that she's now over

738
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>one thousand miles away in a van somewhere else being

739
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 1>held captive. Yeah, but I mean her mother is almost

740
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>certain that Yeah.

741
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, like these freaking bastards have just gone away

742
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>with this for what like thirty seven, thirty six.

743
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Years or whatever. It's it's almost thirty seven years. It

744
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 1>hasn't quite been thirty seven. This fall, it'll be thirty

745
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>seven years.

746
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing I wanted to touch on is

747
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 2>it's so alarming, Like you have your day to day

748
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.360
<v Speaker 2>schedule lots of times, right, and it can be predictable

749
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and these people they know that and they

750
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 2>can follow you and stuff. Right, But like she did

751
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>go out at a different time to.

752
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>A little bit or well, yeah.

753
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's something to say though about doing

754
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>having a set schedule, right, because that has caused issues

755
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 2>for other people and stuff too. But then you also

756
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>have to like do your roots and love things you

757
00:41:59.119 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>do do so.

758
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Hard it is so if you've learned anything from this,

759
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 1>be chaotic, be unpredictable.

760
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, but like she had a favorite roote.

761
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Of course she can't be able to do that daily.

762
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 2>But then these we have these freakin crazy ass bitches,

763
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>bastards that like can follow you. Yeah, because the mom

764
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>had that eerie.

765
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Feeling too, right exactly, But I mean, was that eerie

766
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>feeling was justified? Was it just a weird feeling that

767
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>she got for no reason. It's hard to.

768
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Say, Oh man, you're showing me the photo. I've seen this.

769
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 1>So this is a photo of Tara provided by her family.

770
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, that's the first photo that was found

771
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 1>in Florida in the parking lot.

772
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean yeah, it's like the resemblance is striking really,

773
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>m Like, holy crap, imagine being a mom seeing that.

774
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Hey, right, and I can't quite find it. I mean,

775
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked hard enough, mind you. But there is

776
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a scar on her leg in that photo that Tara's

777
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 1>mother says is a scar that she had from an

778
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 1>accident previous. Yeah, there is the book on the ground,

779
00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>which was like her favorite author.

780
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

781
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.119
<v Speaker 1>The calic Hunner bangs. You can see the calyc.

782
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is just so disturbing. Hey.

783
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I do hope that this case does get

784
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>so soon.

785
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>That would be amazing.

786
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.119
<v Speaker 1>That would be if authorities know who did it. I

787
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>don't understand why they're not, at least, you know what

788
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>releasing names like these are our suspect, This is our suspect.

789
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Well why release that? They you know know, and they're

790
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 2>real close and then it's now like two years later

791
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and nothing's happened.

792
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes more Sorry No, I was twenty twenty three, right, yeah,

793
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>two years later.

794
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 2>So that that is odd. But yeah, there's obviously something

795
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that they that came up or whatever that they didn't expect.

796
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

797
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I understand investigation. I understand god needing to keep evidence

798
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff sealed, But I don't

799
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>understand why you can't name a suspect.

800
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it.

801
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Could potentially flood the public's view and all of a sudden,

802
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe you get misinformation like wrong full tips, people like

803
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:17.559
<v Speaker 1>skewing things coming in or maybe they Yeah I get it,

804
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>but I hate it.

805
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe they were even to antsy on that the

806
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 2>release of that though, Hey, like that could be Yeah,

807
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.639
<v Speaker 2>when they said they knew, but maybe they weren't. Like yeah,

808
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like I'm saying something maybe came up right, I don't know,

809
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 2>but that is that's so shitty. This would be I mean,

810
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>every single case would be amazing to get solved, but

811
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 2>this would sure be one that would be.

812
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is this is up there on my list

813
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:47.760
<v Speaker 1>for for waiting for. That's for her. If there's any updates,

814
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll be keeping you guys posted, that's for sure.

815
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dang, the local story just makes so much sense.

816
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.239
<v Speaker 2>But then yeah, that polaroid found a year later and

817
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 2>it looks so much like hers.

818
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 1>It throws a wrench into it, doesn't it.

819
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 2>It sure does well then too. You think if it

820
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>was just like some local people or whatever, that you

821
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 2>would end up being able to find the body eventually.

822
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>How good would they have been at you know, if

823
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>these were young kids, how good would they have been

824
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 2>at disposing of it unless, like you said, one of

825
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 2>them was really maybe one of them was, like I

826
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>had a father that was in there exactly.

827
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 1>One of them might have a father that's you know,

828
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 1>within the authorities somehow. Maybe like this is a smaller

829
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 1>town too, right, So when you have a small town,

830
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 1>you have young kids, teenagers that sort of stuff. They

831
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 1>go out on quads and dirt roads and back roads.

832
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 1>They can they know how to go way out where

833
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.280
<v Speaker 1>no one is and find the secluded spot, you.

834
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Know, just brutal because yeah, she, like you said, she

835
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 2>was like such a light, she had like such a

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<v Speaker 2>bright future she did, and it was just taken away

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<v Speaker 2>for absolutely no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's heartbreaking. Well, if you guys want to check

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<v Speaker 1>out any of our social links or anything, it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the description of this podcast. If you want to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a review or something, we'd really appreciate it. We

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<v Speaker 1>are an independent podcast. All this research and stuff it's

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<v Speaker 1>done by us. All the writing, you know, the script

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading, it's done by us. This production, all of

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<v Speaker 1>it done by us. We don't have a big company

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<v Speaker 1>pulling strings. We do what we want, when we want,

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<v Speaker 1>how we want, and because we want. If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Some shows you're not allowed to swear. If I want

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<v Speaker 1>to swear, I say fuck because I'm like fuck it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And that's us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so that that was quite a little

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<v Speaker 2>outro there, so it I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologetically an independent.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that unapologetically me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you guys for being here. Hopefully enjoyed the story,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, we'll keep you updated if anything

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<v Speaker 1>does happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Fingers crossed that something does happen, but until next episode,

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<v Speaker 2>stay wicked.
