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Speaker 1: How you doing today?
Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, it's exciting to finally get
some real games, some regular games like day by day.
It was nice to get a little tease over in
Europe and then now having games pretty much every day.
Speaker 1: Is it's your It's my happy place. How about you?
How are you doing you dang right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been fun. We've seen some maclin Ce brainy.
We've seen Connor Dart comeback. We've seen Celebrini and Will Smith.
Although all right, Victory got to look at what happened
last night? Is spoiler time? Leg here is Celebrini gonna
be okay? Do we know that one?
Speaker 1: We don't know, but I did watch the game.
Speaker 3: It didn't look like anything terribly bad, so this thing
he's being evaluated for. Although I haven't been any comments
yet that I have heard, it seems like it's hard
to imagine it would be that bad, considering he didn't
go down awkwardly or anything like that during the game,
so maybe it was just a little bang up.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Unlike unlike my my bestie and player whose name you've
already heard called on the cast, or Alexander Barkoff, come
back soon, Alexander. We need you, buddy, all right, Victor,
I didn't mean to take us down at this point.
I meant to take us up, and I take us
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Speaker 2: All right, Victor, we're gonna take a break. It's you
and me. It's some early season content and we'll talk
right after this. We're back and we are celebrating our
annual tradition where Victor and I talk about shares. It's right,
it's our top hockey shares and so what Victor and
I do. And you've heard this on other shows, but
I think it's an exercise always worth doing, and I
insist to Victor I pound the table, and I think
he agrees with me every year that this is a
worthwhile exercise because you can talk, and you can talk
about the players you like better, and you can say
whatever you want. But Victor and I we also play
fantasy hockey and we draft a lot, and we have
a lot of teams where we make trades. And the
question really is where do you put your money where
your mouth is Who are the players that you actually
find you have on rosters more often than others? And
we can talk about this is not a perfect science,
and there are different reasons why players get on your
teams more often than not. But we're going to talk.
First segment, we'll go through some of Victor's high share guys,
and then in the second segment we'll go into a
few of my high share guys. Now, one thing I
should mention is Victor here, he plays in more leagues
than me. Okay, everybody take it easy on me. If
I do a second show called Dynasty Sports Life, I'm
in about thirty leagues spread over four different sports. A.
Victor and I've got seven fantasy hockey leagues that I
will discuss later of various sorts and types. But Victor Man,
you have a lot of how many dang leagus? I
know I input all the data into the spreadsheet, but
how many leagues you have?
Speaker 3: I scaled back Actually I was up near twenty five,
but that includes leagues that we commission and that we
run that I don't actually play in, so the leagues
that I actually play, and I scaled it down to fifteen,
which is still a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I count the leagues that I'm just commissioning,
like the tidy and all that. There are more, but
I'm not counting those for shares purposes. And I know
this year you decided one of the ways that and
it actually is pretty good for the shares exercise and
for time management, but is also probably a bad habit
is best balls, And I know you didn't do as
many best balls this year, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I messed up.
Speaker 3: I got really busy running some things at my work
now and in charge of a few different people, so
I got really busy around the time of the best Balls,
and I just forgot and didn't have time. I usually
do that and I really enjoy it, but I didn't
get any this year, and so I was really upset
about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, but you have fifteen leagues. So the question,
Victor is what I'll spoil it for people. The high
share that Victor had out of fifteen leagues is five
shares of one player. And keeping in mind that Victor
and I are such dynasty people that these are players
that we've acquired over a decade at this point. Some
of them have been on our rosters for a long time,
some of them not as much. So it's not if
you did fifteen leagues that were all brand new or
sixteen leagues that were all brand new this year, you
might have even more shares of some people because you
might be higher on some people than others are. But
these things spread out. Guys you were high shares of
one year might not be the next year, and so forth.
But what do you think is five shares a good
high water mark for the number of times you got
an individual player, Victor Or? How do you view this philosophically?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: I think that I think having a diversity of shares
of players is a good thing. I think it can
mean that you're in tune with value and trying to
make sure you acquire guys that make sense, because I
think that having a diversity of players certainly can mean
that you're not willing to overpay for certain guys, that
you're wanting to have the right set of values for
value for players and making sure that you're always looking
at it that way, just like these are my guys,
and I don't care what it costs someone to get them,
because that could be a problem. On the last show
with Ryan, we talked about Corey making a trade where
he overpaid and got his guy. I think that can
be good too, for sure, but I think as long
as you're not constantly doing that, as long as you're
not constantly overpaying and overinvesting in certain players, I think
in some ways that tunnel vision could lead to problems.
So the diversity could be good, I guess. On the
other hand, it could mean that maybe you don't necessarily
have your favorites, which I guess could be a problem.
But I definitely I think we all have guys that
were that were that we like. But I definitely try
to not get stuck on my guys. I like my guys,
but if someone is gonna I think, like David is
an example, everybody likes McDavid, right, kill McCarry is one
of my guys. If I am trying to acquire one
of my guys and somebody is asking for the sun
and the moon and the stars, I think it's appropriate
to say no, right, no, that's too much. I shouldn't
do that. It's gonna hurt my team in the long run.
So I think it can be good to just that's
too much. I'll get someone in the next tier down
or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will tell you I have access because
I helped Victor to prepare some of this data. So
again we said, we're counting sixteen leagues of yours at
this point, Victor fifteen. Is that fifteen?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: And in those fifteen leagues cumulatively, Victor has four hundred
and fifty seven different players, I can tell you by
running the data. So there are a lot of different players.
So we're only going to focus on, obviously, the top players,
the ones where you have either five or four shares.
Five is the highest number of shares. So why don't
we start out Victor. You mentioned this guy, and one
of the advantages of being awesome at prospects of the
way you are is some of the time you didn't
have to. You didn't if you were doing this exercise
this year, you would have had to burn a first
round pick every time to get this guy. But because
you knew what you were doing with prospect drafts, I
imagine some of the years you've got we're a little
bit later than the first year. Victor, tell us about
man number one here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cal mccarr will be the first one. I decided
to mention the skaters first. I have a couple of
goalies that I'm more invested in. But yeah, mccarr, As
you mentioned, these are all dynasties, dynasty shares of maccar.
I really wanted mccar in redrafts. He was going a
little bit later in some leagues. He was going somewhere
around five to eight or even nine in some leagues,
And for some reason, I drafted late in all my redrafts.
I was at the turn and in the akup fall,
I was drafting tenth or tenth and twelfth, ten, twelfth
and fourteenth or something like that. So I didn't have
a chance really to get him in any of my leagues,
which was really unfortunate, and it was hard being at
the end of the first round in all of my drafts,
so I think that kind of colored some of my shares.
But as you alluded to, I invested in mccarr long ago.
I saw a bit of the writing on the wall,
I think, even before he became a little as renowned
as he is now. But the awesome and in these leagues,
I think one of the interesting things to talk about
is how I've been able to hold onto him, although
in one league someone straight up just offered me a
random trade that I thought was an insane value and
I smashed except and got my car. So that's one
way that I got him. I still don't quite understand
what that person was thinking, because I can't even remember
what I gave, but it was like basically two c's
for mcar and I was like, not centers, but like
two sea level players, and I just remember thinking, like,
what am I missing. I'm just gonna head accept before
I figure it out, and I did anyway, So when
people have come asking for macar, I'm of the opinion
that he's worth more than pretty much most other forwards
except for the top fee at the very top, even
in contract leagues. I mean that my nine million dollar
cap hit. He doesn't do like as much bashing as
some other guys, but he's still pretty darn good for
at least the blocks and the hits are you know, serviceable,
not a total vacuum. He shoots a lot, so he's
pretty great. So I didn't I went people come asking
for him. I don't usually want to part with him
unless it's for a ton, So that's pretty much how
it goes with mccarr.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 3: I think he's great, and if someone wants to pry
him from me, they're gonna have to. They're gonna have
to give me pretty much like two excellent forwards or
a super high end D along with another forward or
something like that, just to make They're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: Overpay, basically to get mccarr from me.
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's how you should feel too,
because it's pretty hard to replace someone what he can
do and the value that he represents amongst other defensemen.
I have a question for you, Jesse. I'm wondering if
mccarr can get to that century mark. We saw Eric
Carlson do it a couple of years ago on a
horrible Center Day team that seemed like they just wanted
him to score as many points as possible. I think
mccarr has the talent to do it. But man, this
guy cannot stay healthy. I don't think we need to
knock on wod or anything. This is been his MO.
He misses dozens of games, at least a dozen, if
not more, every mostly season. I guess he's had two
seasons of seventy seven games played, which is pretty decent.
That's just missing five games, but he has paced close
to one hundred. I just don't know if he can
actually hit it. Plus, the Avs are a bit worse,
I think than they have been in the past, and
certainly not having the Chushkin and Landeskog. Dryan seems pretty good,
middle stats seems pretty good. Cobalenko seems interesting some of
their new guys, but I don't know. I think he
can get there on talent alone, but I'm not sure
that the team can support him, and I'm not sure
he can stay healthy enough. I'm hoping he does it,
but what do you think.
Speaker 2: We are recording before the Saturday night games again, and
right now he's on one hundred and sixty four point pace. Picture,
I don't know, if you knew through one game he's
had two is this already So I think we're pretty
obviously able to project that look he is. I think
it's very possible. A couple of years ago, I would say, oh,
one hundred points, that's like McDavid McKinnon, that's about it. No, Now,
a lot of guys can get a points in the
monern NHL, and not that Cale McCart is just anybody,
but he has a defenseman, and easier for defenseman to
pull that off. I think it's very possible, depending on
the offensive environment of the year, if it continues on
the same trajectory, and you're right, you could see that
you could see that he always gets injured as either
a that there is something about this player that means
he's going to consistently get injured, or he could mean
he's going to hit that one year where he doesn't
and then look out, because his numbers will go through
the roof seventy seven games ninety points last year. It
seems very possible to me that he could do it.
I'm hoping so. And no Bow and Byron. Now not
that Byron was taken away from his heat, but that's
one less player who could have been coming up to
maybe snag a couple of points out of the mix. Victor.
That is Cale mccarr. You have another, you have a
few more four point players. We're going to hit some
of the highlights of them. But next, you have a
guy who has had a circuitous road. He's a guy
who goes back to San Jose. He's now in New Jersey.
Who is the mystery man?
Speaker 1: That would be Timo Meyer, of course. And yeah, I
think the.
Speaker 3: Tales of Meyer's demise are greatly exaggerated. People have been
talking about how he's a bum and how he's not
really as good as he was in that eighty one
point pace season in San Jose. And maybe he's not,
But I do think he's much better than what he's
shown in New Jersey. And it seems pretty clear to
me that he's had some nagging injuries those times, and
he had a bit of an off year. I think
Jersey had a bit of an off year with some
of the injuries and black of goaltending that they had
and the coaching decisions. He's going to get a tent
of opportunity. I'm not sure if people realize this. You
might assume that Jack Hughes is the highest plate paid
player in New Jersey, but that is not the case.
Speaker 1: It is Timo Meyer.
Speaker 3: That is millions of reasons why Tima Meyer is going
to get all the opportunity in the world. He's not
higher than Dougie Hamilton, but the highest forward and he's
going to get tons of opportunity. And the Devils with
the goaltending, with Dougie Hamilton back, with the Cues being
a year older, and some of the other depth pieces
that they have there, I think they're going to be
much much better. We already saw them beat up on
the Buffalo Sabers. They have looked pretty good so far
this season, and I think that he can do it.
One of the big issues with Meyer in the past
is that he was getting third line treatment. So far
this season, he's getting time with Bratt and Hughes, who
are both pretty elite players, and I think that's going
to help him a ton. When he wasn't with you,
he was with heat Cheer, and I think that's a
pretty pretty awesome consolation prize. I think he's going to
have a massive year, and I think that he could
get back to that peak time he's shown he's had
some seasons where he's been in the between fifty five
to sixty five point pace, but he also has been
close to seventy a couple times, and then he had
that eighty one point pay season. I think he can
get back up to that seventy five plus point pace,
especially in New Jersey with how much they have invested
in him and giving him the time on ice that
he deserves. Last season, for some reason, he was down
to one of his lowest time on ice ever and
that's just wild. So he's back up to near twenty
minutes and I think so far through three games, and
I think that that's going to continue. They're going to
use him, and if they use him that much, I
think that point pace can come.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Jesse, I definitely do. Tim Omeyer
is a guy who when you do the projections out
because of the bash, typically it looks amazing. He is
gonna really jump up the charts above where you expect. Now,
am I at all better? That last year in a
league with a friend of mine where we co managed
a team, he convinced me that we should take Tim
Omeyer over Nikita Kucherov in the second round. Maybe I'm
still a little bit bitter about that, but I can't
hold against tim Omeyer that was just the confluence of events.
It makes him sound worse than it actually is right
now based on the score and format. But no, Timo
Meyer is a guy who is going to be better
than you might expect in that league's format. So I
definitely think that this is a savvy pickup, a guy who,
no doubt you've picked up at different times over the
years and will continue to have strong performance victory this
next guy. I could be wrong, but I think I
think I can remember back to a time when you
didn't like him as much, and I know you've long
since become a convert. Maybe I'm wrong about this, Maybe
I'm wrong about this. He's a guy who I used
to think was going to be great in Carolina, and
then he went to Saint Louis, and then he felt
like he had a couple of boring years, and then
he became what he is now. Victor, who is.
Speaker 3: It that would be none other than Justin Falk And yeah,
I remember the biggest reason I quote unquote didn't like
him wasn't necessarily so much about anything that he did.
It was more the way that the Blues handled the
cap situation when they brought in Justin Falk and they
gave him six point five million and they let I
can't remember all the people that they let go, but
it remember it really bugged me that the way that
they'd handle that, and I just remember thinking, like, is
Falk really this good? And Yeah, that was definitely something
that I was wondering out loud. And that first season
in Saint Louis, he was pretty awful. He had pretty
pedestrian peripherals and he had a nineteen point pace. I
was feeling pretty smug about that comment at the time,
but he has since really turned it on and you
were referencing point paces after three games, So he's on
one hundred and nine point pace right now, clearly going
to continue. But now the last couple of seasons he's
been between forty and fifty point pace with really solid peripherals.
And I think the big thing about Falk this year
is that he he doesn't really have competition for the
top power play. He had been getting it off and
on during his time in Saint Louis with Krug being
there and then being injured, and you know all the
different things that have been happening. But now I think
Justin's fulking awesome and he's going to continue to be
until some other competition comes along. There is Scott Prunovich.
I know people want Scott Prunevich to be a thing.
I have wanted Scott Prunavis to be a thing. I'm
sure Scott Prunevich and his whole family wants him to
realize his potential. But the man can't seem to stay healthy.
It's really frustrating. He's got lots of talent but can't
seem to keep together, and that's frustrating. I did get
Falk in one redraft. I wanted him in all my redrafts,
and I got sniped so hard one time by Nate.
I had him all cued up and I was like, yeah,
by the way, don't ever a draft with Nate in
front of you if you can help it. That was
a miserable experience. He took so many of my guys.
But I had Fulk in a couple other leagues, and
I was trying to get him in every league that
I could.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him. I think Saint Louis so they've
been sneaky good. Right.
Speaker 3: They came back to win a couple of games that
they probably shouldn't have, one against Santade, which I imagine
everyone thought they would win easily. But I think Santa
they put up a tougher fight than most people thought.
And yeah, I think you look at the roster and
you think this might be a down season, but they
have some really awesome players. Robert Thomas, Jordan Cairou and
Pablo Buchnevich seemed like a force to be reckoned with.
And their defense can if they can be at least average.
So I think Falk is going to be pretty good.
And I think that he's shown that he can give
them the right opportunity, that he can be a lot more,
a lot better than at least some of us used
to think.
Speaker 1: Jesse, I can change my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to over exaggerate, but Victory, we
got to ramp up the takes. We got to ramp
up the history Victor when we're talking, just to make
this show all the excitement that the people demand. Yeah,
Falk Victor dancing right up to the edge of the
explicit take and then pulling it back gently. He is
all that in a bag of donuts. What do you
think the other X factor in that Saint Louis defensive
course is Philip? Is he going to be an X
factor in this at all?
Speaker 3: You think, Yeah, that's a really good question. And I
actually really like Broberg and I think if you watch
the playoffs with Edmontonton, you really got to see some
of what he can do. And I actually I wrote
about Broberg on EP ringside. I encourage you go read it,
and basically the point was, man, if this guy ever
gets a really good opportunity somewhere other than Edmonton, he
could be really great and then look what happened. So
I think that there's a really good chance that he is.
I think obviously we have to see what the power
play breakdown is going to be. Just looking so far,
it's clearly Flk on the top unit, but Broberg is
getting some time. I think a lot of people thought
that maybe Colton Prareco would get that he's never really
been that guy. Perreco and Letty had it for a
hot minute in the Islanders POJ. I think that time
has passed, so it's really going to be Fulk and
Broberg on the team. If Prunovich gets and stays healthy,
maybe he can do that. But he's nowhere near the
five on five player that Broberg is and I think that. Yeah,
Broberg right now has three points in three games. I
don't think that'll continue. But I think I said something
like a forty plus point pace season is in the cards,
and I definitely think he can do that. Especially his
priffs are pretty decent, and I think they might even
be better given the opportunity than folks will have to see.
He's not going to get the minutes that Falk is getting.
But yeah, Philip Broberg I think could really turn this around. Plus,
I think you always have to look at how the
team is invested in the player, and they obviously we
all saw they're invested in him. I mean they're paying
him four and a half million to fulk six and
a half million. He's the second highest paid, third highest
paid defenseman on the team with Krug on LTR. So
that's ahead of Letty, that's ahead of all the other guys.
So they have reasons to use him, and he has
been been showing he's worth it. I think of all
the guy between him in Holloway, you know, he really
has shown out much more and it's a more difficult position,
and it's a position that they really needed. So yeah,
I think Berber could be in a pretty good league.
Not in a cap league because I don't know that
he's going to be worth that, but in a non
cap league, I think you might want to invest in him.
He could really show that he's worth a little bit
more than we thought.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Victor, let's go to the goalies, because actually, surprisingly
the goalies really were actually your highest share. You had
higher shares of some goalies than you even did of
some of the skaters. But tell us about how that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you all know how I goalie. I
like to fade goalies, and I've been doing that. You
and I have been doing that long before Nate gave
it a name with zero G and I didn't draft
any goalies in redraft until round eleven. I kept looking
seeing who's there, and there were several starters that I
was comfortable with, And the main two that I was
pretty comfortable with are the two that I ended up with,
So I don't think that's a coincidence. I kept waiting
and then they were still there. My main targets going
into the season were Hill, Ingram, Wolf and dos Stahl,
and I ended up mostly with Hill and Ingram. I
did get a few shares of Wolf and dos Staal
as well, but I decided not to talk so much
about those two. Most of my dos Staal shares are
in Dynasty. I actually didn't have any Wolf shares in Dynasty,
but I think that's more because other people actually like
him more than me, which is hard to believe, but
it's true. And I also really like those off night
schedules with dos Stall and especially with Gibson being able
banged up to start the season and then them being
close to starts last year, I figured Dostal would take
the lead this year. But anyways, I wasn't going to
focus on those who'll focus on Hill and Ingram. With Hill,
he's the man in Vegas, right, I imagine he's gonna
get the volume. He's making more than double what theim
soon Off is making. One concern is that both these
guys are injury prone, so that makes me a little
bit worried. But I think that Hill has the investment
and trust of the coach after the Cup performance, so
I think that they're gonna clearly go back to him,
and we've seen that already. So far this season, he
has been the man. I don't think anyone's too surprised
with that. One concern I had is maybe Vegas is
gonna be worse than we thought because they lost some
pretty good players. They're still tied to the cap and
have some of these issues. Mark Stone seems like he's
struggling at times, but I think that they're still gonna
be good. They always find a way regardless of what's happening.
They seem to find a way to still be good.
And most of the rest of the Pacific Division isn't
very good anyway, so that helps playing beating up on
some of the rebuilding or retooling teams. But yeah, I
was targeting Hill for that reason. Still should be on
a pretty good team, still should get the volume of starts,
and even though I don't necessarily trust him to be amazing,
I think that I trust the team much more in
points leagues. In category leagues, I would be a little
more nervous about Hill, especially with the way that Vegas
allowser doesn't allow shots so often. That can be a
little bit painful, but it's so far I think it's
going pretty well, and I think that he will be fine.
And I guess I'll just mention Ingram too, and then
you can talk about you can react to both of them,
but yeah, Ingram. I have long Jesse long been a
Connor Ingram fan, even since he was back in Tampa,
saying that I still think this guy can be a starter,
even though he's behind Vassilevski and people were calling me crazy.
Speaker 1: But I love him. I think he's great.
Speaker 3: And he showed last season that he really can take
the ball and run with it, and I think that's
really important. I think that helps his confidence. I think
with the clubs moved to Utah and the offseason editions,
he got some really good addition. Sergachev is an all in,
all world type defenseman. He can really handle tough minutes,
tough assignments. He can run power plays, he can do
it all. He's really awesome. They added some other depth
defestman Marino, and some of their young guys are maturing.
Dylan Gunther is the real deal. That guy is incredible.
They got some great forward so I think for all
the teams should just be a lot better. The vibes
are immaculate. There in Utah, it seemed like they really
feel like they're being taken care of, and in the
first couple of games, they look like a a team
to be reckoned with. Even though Ingram's numbers maybe weren't
in stellar, I think that he showed that he can
help them win, which I think is maybe a surprise
that some people were looking at Utah saying, yeah, they're
not going to win that many games, even if Ingram's okay,
I thought that.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I think that they can push to be a Bubble
playoff team, and that's pretty valuable. I think there's something
to be said, too, Jesse for teams that are really
pushing hard to get in, because they might play their
starter a little bit more, and they might they're fighting
for those wins. Sometimes with some of the some of
the teams that are either guaranteed to be in or out,
they tend to not work their guy that hard, or
they tend to split starts, or whatever the case may be.
But I think they might actually really lean on their
top guy here in Connor Ingram. So I was pretty
happy to get those two and I really believe in
these guys, and I think I think if you had
a chance to get Ingram in particular, I would be
supporting trying to make that move.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Jesse, Yeah, you definitely have been
a Connor Ingram Man longer than most, and I totally agree.
I don't know about everybody else, man, I'm so locked
in on Utah right now. I will say I was
a hipster Coyotes fan last year when the Coyotes were
at their absolute death, partly because of the train wred
factor and watching I think Tyson Nash was still there
last year calling games. But I love tuning into their
stuff and I love following their media. But like everybody
is locked in at least it feels like TNT in
some of the national stuff in the United States is
locked in on pushing Utah. That opening night Utah game
was just amazing. Lari Marknen from the Utah Jazz coming
out there and skating and looking about making Clayton Keller
look like a small child when he stood next to him.
The power forward for the Utah Jazz that was outstanding,
and for the Utah Jazz Co also owned by the
same people playing in the same building for them to
be led by a Finn who could come out and
introduce the hockey Club was just tremendous. Their uniforms are
hot fire right now. I just I'm loving everything about
Utah and Connor Ingram is looking good. Maiden Hill is
so weird because he was he made the rounds and actually,
if you look back, had decent stats with Arizona for
several years as the backup and with San Jose. But
when he came to Vegas, did anybody trust that he
was gonna be able to do anything? And then suddenly
Vegas has made him into what he is, or he's
been able to show what he is in Vegas, and
it's just amazing. But he definitely is a value to
have at this point. Victor, Yeah, no, I definitely.
Speaker 3: I remember when he went to Vegas because he came
from Yeah, you said San Jose in between and it's
one of those things too where the grass is always
greener and you watch In Hill in Arizona and I
remember thinking like, yeah, I remember watching sharksk games and
he and the not very good Arizona Coyotes would he
would stand on his head and they would beat the Sharks,
so they would beat other teams, and I remember thinking
like wow, this guy's so good. And then I watched
him closer in San Josana. I remember thinking like, I
don't think he is very good, but that was probably
partially the team in front of him. Then he goes
to Vegas and I'm still thinking, I don't think this
guy is very good.
Speaker 1: And then he turned. Then he wins the Cup, and
I don't know what to think about this guy.
Speaker 3: But that's where you have to detach some of your
feelings and just look objectively and say, he won a cup.
Can't deny that Vegas still finds a way and they've
made him their man. He's making more than doubles. I
think you gotta believe. You gotta believe that he's going
to get that opportunity and he's going to be decent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3: I try to separate that from my actual feelings, which
I which is still that I don't know that I
don't really think he's that good of a goalie, but
he has shown that he can be at least in
that system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the great march of Vegas goalies over the future
of the franchise, you know, there should be a meme.
There probably is a meme. For this that I don't know.
But it starts with Marc Andre Fleurius. Oh yeah, that
makes sense. And then Robin Laner's Robin Laner. He's had
a career renaissance. This is making sense. And then it
goes to Aiden Hill and you're like, oh, really okay,
And then it goes to Logan Thompson and what was
it Eric Comery last, No, it wasn't him, the other
backup br Swas, the other backup for Winnipeg. And you're like, okay, Vegas,
I don't know what you're doing here, but yeah, just
you're drunk.
Speaker 1: Go home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're drunk, go home. You got all these magicians
in town. I don't know how you're doing it, but anyway,
all right, that's Victor's high Share guys. We're gonna take
a break, come back and talk my high share guys. Selfish, selfish,
break it down, Kate, fuck, don't.
Speaker 1: Bat's not gonna be there, got jumpin.
Speaker 2: Taking talking for angles. Are still shot a bad bounced.
Speaker 3: That's a good breakaway to get the bounced boys.
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Time to go through Jesse shared. You heard you going
through mine? And yes, Jesse, I do enjoy this exercise.
I think everyone should step back and take stock of
who you're actually invested in and think about that, think
about how you got to that point. And we're going
to talk about yours, your your shares, who you have.
Why don't you take us through what leagues you have
and what type they are in terms of dynasty, redraft
and whatnot and talk through that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Victor, it's I'm I've got seven teams this year
for existing dynasties that I drafted in the past. It's
like one a year practically that I've been drafting them,
and then we have our co managed team, so they're
on my roster. But to some extent, I've got to
attribute some of these picks to you, although some of
them have been trades and some of them are guys
who could have traded away at various points. And then
this year I did one Best Ball redraft, and I
did one redraft Fantasy Sports Gaming Association where I represent
fan tracks in a draft. I did that a week ago,
So there are a couple of new shares that I
can say represent. But out of the seven teams, I
actually have at least one player who flipped over the
halfway point where I have him in seven of the
or four of the seven rosters, and then I got
a few guys at three victory and this is going
to break down in categories, which we'll get to is
as we get through them.
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, So who's your top share guy?
Speaker 2: My top share guy surprised me. And that's what the
shares exercised. I would invite anybody to do this. And
if you don't know how to do this easily, if
you got too many rosters, you don't think there's a
way to do it, I can show you there's a
spreadsheet you can copy paste a lot of stuff on
real quick and make this happen in fifteen if you're
decent with Google sheets. But my top guy, Nikolai Eeler's,
believe it or not, I was surprised, but maybe I
shouldn't be. I took him in both of my new
drafts this year, the Redraft and the Redraft Best Ball,
And it wasn't my mindset to target Nick Eelers because
we all know the deal, right, Talent is crazy, opportunity
never seems to get there, and you worry about the injury,
You worry about whether he's going to get the opportunity
in Winnipeg, and both times it was one of those
where I ended up taking him because I just kept
I felt like he kept falling and I wanted that
dual wing eligibility, and I was like, okay, I'll take
Nick Eelers. I like him in redrafts where peripherals are devalued,
which some of these redrafts were. They didn't care as
much about hits and shots, and some of them didn't
even credit blocks, which I firmly morally oppose. But these
are things that in prove Nikolai Eeler's value visa vi.
His competition because those are some of the areas where
he doesn't do things. Also, power play points, if there
are If power play points are scored heavily, that's not
great for nick Lai Eilers because that's not what he gets.
But he gets plenty of even strength points. But of
these four shares, one is actually on our common team,
so that is that That is the third share, and
the fourth is the Diesel League. If people aren't familiar
with that. I created a four sport dynasty that has
full rosters, full prospect systems, salary for four sports Victor
is a participant there. He co manages the hockey side
of one of the leagues. But I have Elers in
that and he's got a decent contract. I think he's
six thousand, six million dollars right now, and he could
be up for a raise that could make him a
little bit more difficult for the stats he produces. But
everywhere I roster him. The three places out of the
six drafts that I did the initial draft for is
is a pick I made either this season or last
the older leagues or not once I have him. And
so it really does apparently represent my most recent feelings
about some of these players. And I guess hope springs
eternal that mister Eelers is going to take his big
step picture you have him or we have him in
that common team, So you must be an Eelers man
with me, right, I.
Speaker 1: Do love Eelers.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the issues where he just didn't seems to
not get the deployment, and we've all been frustrated with it.
I think I heard on thirty two thoughts they were
asked saying whether they thought Elers would be a Jet
next year, And the prevailing wisdom as of now is No,
I think we'd all love to see Eelers in a
different situation, potentially getting that top power play time and
seeing what he can do, because I think there's a
lot of belief that he can do a lot more.
And yeah, six million is a very reasonable cap hit
for what he does, and yeah, I think that he
can do more, but he just doesn't at the opportunity
and it's very frustrating. But yeah, I love what he
can do. He generitely brings a good amount of shots
at least, although that's been a little bit down in
the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do. I really enjoy watching Elers.
Speaker 3: He's so fun, he's so fast, he's really creative, and
he seems to make things happen when he's out there.
But yeah, sometimes it doesn't always translate to points, which
maybe either the way he plays or who he gets
to play with is probably part of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be delicious to have him go to
another team, all right. The second guy I've got I
can't really claim credit for per se because this is
a pure luck of the draw where I was drafting
in Leagus. Nathan McKinnon is on three of my seven teams.
And basically having Nathan McKinnon on that many teams doesn't
mean that you have any particular credit for liking Nathan McKinnon.
It means you got picked, but you got somewhere between
pick two and four in the draft, and either he
was the guy who fell, which I feel like he
did some of the time, where he was the guy
I might have taken him over like a dry cydle
or a postum knak, which I guess says something, but
it doesn't. I can't claim the type of credit that
would otherwise belong to me. I did have a dynasty
that went back to that year, I think his sophomore
year where he wasn't that great, where I drafted him
based on that year, where I would vaguely feel like
but that folded several years ago, so I can't take
credit for him. But nonetheless, I'm very happy every night
that the Colorado Avalanche are playing to have comfort knowing
that Nathan McKinnon's stats are going out to my sheet.
Speaker 1: Victor, Oh, yeah, I imagine you are.
Speaker 3: But I do believe one of those shares is our
joint team where we have McKinnon, And that was actually
one where we traded for and that was right before
he was about to get paid. And I think the
manager was a little worried about his excessive cap hit,
which is insane, but he's also an insanely talented player.
So it was one of those things where we should
rearrange things to make room for this guy. We did
have to make a little bit of a decision. There
wasn't that hard, but we did make room for McKinnon's
I cap hit.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, all right. The next two guys are
also pros, and I will be accused of bias. I
will not partake in that, but I could be accused
of bias because they're both Washington capitals, the first being
Tom Wilson. I think it's not so much that I'm
biased for Tom Wilson, as the things that make other
people hate Tom Wilson and be less likely to draft
him do not exist in my mind, and therefore I
tend to take in more value. And I think in
all of these cases I got him below value initially.
But Tom Wilson, obviously the reason you drafted him is
for the purple floor. His hits are going to meet
in a points league that values hits. You're going to
have the floor every night because of this man's insane
number of hits that he takes, and in ile leagues
or leagues where injured players don't have a cap hit,
which Tom Wilson. If you put it this way, if
you have a league where Tom Wilson when suspended does
not account against your cap, that's a good thing if
it's a salary league. But I have three shares. One
was actually in your league, Victor, or the league you
initially drafted our co managed team. The other one is
in the four sport contract where his new contract actually
terrifies me because you got a rather large extension and
it was actually a little bit of a choice to
keep him after this extension. But in a redraft this year,
I got him at picked one to seventy, which is
just come on, it picked one to seventy in a
league that values hits. You have to at that point.
I love the upgrade that Wilson's getting this year from Kuznetsov,
who was on his last legs, to peer Luke Dubois.
I feel like Connor McMichael and the other wing is
emerging and actually getting to be a competent pro winger,
So I I think Wilson might actually have a slightly stronger,
slightly stronger group that he'll be playing with. And then,
of course, usually a couple times a year, he'll be
on the same line as Alex Obachkin, and that always
helps to have somebody to divert some attention. He's going
to take his shots close in. So Tom Wilson good
useful player for me. And then Charlie Lingern is the
other one guy who was like, when you started to
notice that Charlie Lingren was a guy, you needed to
be the purst to pick him up. He wasn't really
a guy. I don't know if I got him. I
took him in a redraft this year along with Logan
Thompson because I was doing late goalie selections and I
believe in Charlie linger and I think, all though the
capitals probably will not be very good, I think he'll
be able to get some saves and he'll play a
competent goalie, maybe as competent of a goalie as this
team has had since since Samsonov's last good year into
And who knows what Logan Thompson is because the Vegas
magic has gone now, but we also got him in
our common team last year. That was a good thing
to get in our common league. I picked him up
the league that we're both in as separate teams were
at two different leagues of separate leagues, but our old
dynasty I had a major shortage of pro goalies and
I brought him in. Charlie ing Gren, I feel is
just a competent, low level He's not a guy I
would have taken like tenth the Mongoalies or anything like that.
But he's a guy I'm happy to have as a
floor guy, and I do think he's going to end up.
As I've said on this show, I do think he's
going to end up in the lead of that CAP's
goalie duo. And then two prospects, Victor I'll just mention
because it's hard to say. In some ways, having a
prospect as a high share guy means that you probably
did draft him above where he was going in drafts
in the past. The first of those I don't really
think was a draft situation. Tom Off of Toronto one
of those shares on our common team. I have the
other two the FHL Dynasty teams, actually the original FHL
Dynasty and in Tidy, and those were ones that I
believe I traded for in both cases because when I
was trying to sell really good players, he was one
of the better prospects on the contending team that was acquiring,
So he was my preference in some of those. And
Toronto is still an uncertain goalie situation, but I have
faith that ultimately they will be a competitive team whatever
comes out the other end of this whole thing. I
don't know that they're going to come back to the
bottom of the league at anytime soon. And if he
ever gets really good, I'm hoping for the Toronto tax
that will maybe help me get him with some dividends.
And then last should be no surprise. And this is
the only one that I look at really on this
whole list and say, yeah, this is my guy. Deminilli,
You're off. I put my money where my mouth was
in the twenty twenty two prospect drafts. All three shares
are in my solo managed dynasties. I took him in
the Diesel the four Sports startup last year. I took
him fourteenth in our common league, and I claimed him
for one hundred percent of my budget last year in
another league where he was drafted. I think it was tidy.
He was drafted seventeenth in the draft, but inexplicably dropped
in February. I still had all one hundred of my
five dollars. I dropped all one hundred per You're off.
I have no idea what that manager was thinking not
calling them out, because I don't really remember who it was.
And please, nobody go back and do the math and
do any shame. I don't even know if that guy's
in the league again this year. But Danili, you're off?
Has his stock has risen in? I'm very happy. I
would if I could get him in all seven leagues,
all dynasty leagues, I would be very happy about that.
Victor any observations on my shares, guys think any of
them are crazy.
Speaker 3: There was a time I called you crazy for ranking
you're off so high, but those days are behind us, Jesse.
Speaker 1: We're moving on from that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I definitely think that it's interesting when you
look at prospects, because I would imagine that there are
some people who do this exercise and would find that
they have a whole lot of duplicate shares of certain players.
And I do think it's especially with prospects, it's even
better to have a diversity because no one is perfect
at predicting these things. So you don't want to have
twelve shares of one guy and then have that guy
not hit.
Speaker 1: You want to have a.
Speaker 3: Little bit of a diverse portfolio, Jesse, if you're investing
in these prospects. So I think that's good. And certainly
saying you put one hundred percent of your claim budget
was definitely a big move. But also people should know
you don't usually tend to use that much of your
fab in that league, so it wasn't like the most
insane thing either. Like when you said that, I was like, yeah,
I have someone really good dropped. Yeah, you should do that.
You should get your guys. So that makes sense a
lot of times in leagues two, over the summer, some
guys become available and you might drop a lot of
fab that way, and you just don't need it mostly
through the year because not a lot. It's hard to
stream in those leagues there isn't too many guys out there,
or if you have a streamer, it's just like a
fourth liner who has a good schedule, So it's not
a make or break kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It tells you all you need to know that I
still had one hundred percent of my fab in February
of that league when the playoffs. Actually I think stiverna
like ten of February beginning of March. So yeah, I'm
not a guy to Nicolin die my fab and usually
I end up with some in excess at the end,
So yeah, I was happy about that. The prospect drafts
really where you have higher shares that actually I think
sometimes indicates more who you were high on because you
were taking that in a discrete set of picks, and
especially a prospect guy who is maybe like a second
round or late first round pick, if you took it
ahead of of other people, I think it's a little
more indicative even than some of the pros who are
spread over a number of rounds. Anyway, Victor, this has
been fun, as it has been every year. Why don't
we take a break and come back Colcup show you
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and an auction. So it's just there's just more stuff
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