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Speaker 4: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 2: Lead to see Hockey Live back Hawk Dallas Stars. I'm

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side Victor, how you do it?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Jesse. We are definitely on the down, downhill,

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downslide of this. That's not an Olympic event, though it's

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trying to make an Olympic corollary. But it's not like

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we're doing the skeleton or anything like that. But it

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feels like that in terms of these team previous doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: We've done so many of these previews. I'm pretty sure

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will be to the Winter Olympics by the time we're

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done where they race the skeleton.

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Speaker 4: Victor.

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Though a lot of great tools. They're great Brandon doing

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking Dallas Stars right after this break. We

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welcome in the show akopolists from the Dallas News. How

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you doing today, Leah, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Doing great? Doing great? Ready to talk some Stars. If

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you look at things in terms of a youthful corps

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who's already demonstrated the ability to have success in the

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playoffs with rising players still on the way, I got

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to say this, Stars fans have to be at or

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near the happiest in the league because this really is

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quite a thing here after season one standings point from

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a President's Trophy. Last year, the Stars made it all

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the way to the Western Conference Finals. There were third

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and goals for eighth, best in goals against. And then

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what have we got now? Joe Pavelski's out rental, Chris

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gang's pretty much back and there are new players popping

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into this lineup and probably on the upward trajectory hot rookies.

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of Graveyer. It's also that we'll talk about to keep

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it up. Was last season looked at as a success

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in Dallas? And do you think the Stars are Legit

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Cup contenders this year?

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Speaker 1: Last season I think was definitely looked at as a success.

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look at it now removed because the Stars finished in

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the exact same place that they finished a year before

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when they reached the Western Conference Finals and lost to

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Vegas in Game six, lost Edmonton in Game six. But

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big step forward for a lot of the reasons you

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mentioned there that youthful core is back. They have moved

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on from some of the more veteran players, but they

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have players coming in to replace that production. So I

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think expectations and hopes are pretty high in Dallas. There's

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still some key question marks, of course, around how you

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replace a guy like Joe Pavelski, how the defense is

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going to look this year, But overall, I think there's

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a reason to believe that the Stars can make another

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deep run and maybe go a couple games further and

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reached the final this year.

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Speaker 2: If the Stars make the run this year, Jason Robertson

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is going to be a big part of that. He

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led the team in forward time on ice and total

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points last year, nearly a point per game production. It

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was a tick down from that first team All Star

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twenty two to twenty three. His advanced as last year, though,

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the league with legitimate defensive prowess too. He was fourteenth

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in Selkie voting as a winger. Robertson just turned twenty

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five and as a couple more years on his current

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deal before one would expect mister Robertson's going to get

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a big old raise. Are you expecting a bounce back

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to those twenty two twenty three numbers? And just how

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good is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Jason Robertson was a really interesting player last year because

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he wasn't really getting his points in goals the way

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that he was the season before, but he was still

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getting you know, he still led the team in points,

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as you mentioned there, and I think the Stars went

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into kind of a set last year of wanting to

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have just depth scoring, not wanting to have to rely

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on Jason Robertson to have another one hundred point year,

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and I imagine they're going to take a similar approach

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going into this year. However, he loses one of his

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line mates in Joe Pavelski, so I think there's going

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to be a little more pressure on him to produce

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a little bit more in the scoring department than he

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did this year. But I think Jason Robertson is always

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going to be a consistent person that you want to

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have on your team. He's always going to be producing.

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He's your point per game kind of guy. There are

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plenty of stretches where he's going to have an assist

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Speaker 3: You don't really have to worry about.

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Speaker 1: Him going cold, and that hasn't been an issue for

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the Stars in recent years. Besides maybe a little stretch

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in the playoffs not last year, but the year before.

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game is something he really focus on and developed this

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past year, and it was a big asset for the

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Stars in the playoffs. Jason Robertson is always going to

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be their their franchise, their go to guy, and a

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reliable person for them, especially still so young.

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Speaker 2: Matt Dushane is the next guy up. He washed up

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in Dallas last year. Not saying he's washed up metaphorically, anyway,

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he showed up in Dallas last year after his release

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from Nashville, maybe with some of the pressure off. His

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sixty five points were third on the Dallas Stars. He

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was awesome. His line with Mason Marchmant and Tyler Sagan,

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who will talk about both of those guys later played

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the sixth most minutes together of any five on five

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line in hockey, with the highest percentage of goal scored

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on the ice two thirds of any line that had

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five hundred plus minutes. He resigned in the offseason. Re

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signed in the off season. I should say, how did

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Dushane fit into this team and what do you expect

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dushane was the piece that the stars really were

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searching for and were able to find. He pretty much

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made an instant impact when he arrived in Dallas, and

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that line with Tyler Stagan and Mason Marchmant was one

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where there was something left to be desired entering the season,

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and it really felt like du Shane kind of lifted

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that group and made them Dallas his best line for

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a lot of the first half of the year, and

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Tyler Sagan dealt with some injuries. There was some kind

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of time where they were split up later in the year,

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but they certainly had their moments and Matt duch Shane

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was very consistent early on, and then when the playoffs

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delivered the double overtime game six game winning goal against

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his former team Colorado, which was just a very poetic moment.

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He was a really big There was an emphasis on

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wanting to bring him back this year, and they were

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able to do so for the same amount of money,

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and I think there's an expectation that he's going to

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be continuing to build on what he did last season,

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continue to be a key anchor of that second line

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and also being an important veteran presence for a team

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that lost some of its veteran leadership this year, so

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I think expectations are high for Matt Dushane, especially after

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what he did in year one, and I would be

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confident that he's going to maintain a pretty important role

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Speaker 2: Rupe. Hints was playing along with Robertson and the departed

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Pavelski to the tune of the fourth most minutes on

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five was that line another two way force who was

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tied were the second most points on the team. Hints

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is not a huge peripherals guy hits blocks of shots,

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but he definitely gets it done from a real world perspective.

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What makes Hints such a small strong player for this

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team And do you think maybe he could even crank

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up the scoring a little bit back into the mid

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seventies this year with the picking up the slack from Pavelski.

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Speaker 3: I think absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Hints is probably one of the most versatile players on

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the Stars team, from his speed, to his scoring ability

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to his being a two way forward. In that sense,

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I think that he's He had some slumps per se

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this year that were a little bit more uncharacteristic. He

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really struggled in the playoffs. There were some belief that

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he was dealing with some injuries. We know he missed

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some games with some injuries. I think all of those

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factors played into it, But you can feel a really

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big difference when he's in the lineup, not only just

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from what he does individually, but just the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's your top one centerman. Of course he's going

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to be important.

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Speaker 1: So I think that there's definitely hope that he's going

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to build and get closer to that seventy point range

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for this next year.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's certainly possible.

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Speaker 1: But Ripay Hints is a key player in a number

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of areas for the Stars and going to be important

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in any success.

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Speaker 3: That they have.

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Speaker 4: Definitely another key to their success, especially their continued open

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window to win the Cup. Why Johnston, He's the next

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guy we're going to talk about. This definitely was a breakout.

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The breakout for Johnston. He played a second straight full

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eighty two game season, which is super impressive. Most of

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those one hundred and sixty plus games played were before

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he turned twenty one years old. I know that was

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a big fun thing for them when they finally were

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able to celebrate his twenty first birthday sixty five point

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pace with just seventeen minutes time on ice and thirty

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five percent of the power play time on ice ten

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total power play points. This past season, he definitely took

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a game to another level in the playoffs with sixteen

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points in nineteen games played. Quoting there the power play

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percentage and the power play points, it certainly seems like

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there's room for even more growth in his offensive game,

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considering that there's that he might have a little bit

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more opportunity. So Leo, what do you think we should

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expect from Johnston this season? Do you think you can

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pass that seventy point pace, maybe even approach point per game.

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Speaker 1: I think so because I think there's a real chance

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that why Johnson ends up on Dallas's top line this year.

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He was one of the things about why that was

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so pressive with the numbers that he put up, as

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he was a third line guy, and Dallas really had

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three real scoring lines, so it's hard to consider them

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for second third lines. But there were times in the

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year when he was with Jason Robertson and rope Hit

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on that top line when they just needed that extra boost,

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and every single time they were together it really seemed

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to pay off for them.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what they end up doing.

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Speaker 1: There's also a chance Tyler Sagan goes up on that

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line with them, which he had done pretty frequently last season,

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so might mix things up. But it was, as you said,

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a breakout year for Johnston. He's twenty one years old,

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a really young kid, a lot of potential, and you know,

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was critical in the Stars kind of playoff run all

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the success. So I think that he's a player that's

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just trending upwards and he's due for a big raise

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at the end of next season, So this is going

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to be a big year for him to continue to

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earn that, and he probably already has in many areas.

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But I think that he impressed and shocked a lot

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of people last year, and the Stars really rely on

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him and Logan Stankovin and all those really young guys

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Maverick Bork coming in. I imagine that he's going to be

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really the leader of that group.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Sagan. I've been such a big fan of Sagan

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for a long time. He's probably just never going to

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be quite the superstar he was before that hip surgery,

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but his scoring rate has climbed each year since fully returning.

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He missed an eleven game stretch late in the season

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for a lower body injury, was a bit slow returning

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before notching thirteen points in nineteen playoff games. In his prime,

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Sagan was a slot was a shot machine, but that

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really isn't His game at the stage is not a

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four shot per game guy. Is a little more like

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a two shot per game guy. And the defensive advanced

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stats are not great. But with young guys coming up,

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it makes me worry Sagan's still entrenched with the second

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line this year and what do you expect from Sagan

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at this stage of his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that Sagan definitely will still be a

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part of one of Dallas's top two lines. I think

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among the veteran players this year, we saw Joe Pavelski,

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especially later in the season, his age catch up to him.

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Speaker 3: And I understand Tyler Sagan.

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Speaker 1: Is not forty years old yet, but we saw some

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of those veteran guys get demoted, get down to the

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third and fourth line. But Sagan was consistently in one

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of those top two line spots and there was a

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lot of confidence in him this year. I remember in

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the playoffs Pete de Borr said that Tyler Sagan was

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one of the people that really impressed him the most

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this year and what he was able to accomplish. And

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I think, as we discussed before, the addition of Matthew

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Shane just worked really to Sagan's advantage and he was

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a really able to feed off of each other.

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Speaker 3: Mason Marshman in there too.

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Speaker 1: I think if there might be a hope to keep

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that line together because of how much success they had,

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and if they do that, I think you can hope

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to see a similar production from them. I think Sagan

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was very streaky this year. They were pointing to the

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playoffs where he scored back to back games kind of

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things like that. I think he definitely has his moments.

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He is one of the more veteran players on this

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team now, so obviously injuries that kind of thing started

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to get adam later in the season. But I don't

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think that there's a look at Tyler Sagan like there

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was that some of the other veterans this year of oh,

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their time maybe coming up. Even though Sagan's dealt with

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some pretty serious injuries in his career, I think that

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he still looked at as someone who can be a

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pretty important contributor.

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Speaker 2: There's so many for us to talk about that. I'm

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gonna smuggle in a pick on me here between two

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different guys who definitely at different times in a different roster,

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would merit their own individual long discus. But Jamie Ben

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and Mason Marchmont were both excellent once again for this team.

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Bend a little bit of a career renaissance, renaissance he's

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more lately sixty points in eighty two games. Mason Marchman,

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as you said in one of the upper lines as well,

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fifty three points in eighty one games. Compare these two,

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Who do you think is going to have the better

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scoring year? And what are your thoughts on these two?

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting one for me. I'm going to

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take Mason Marchment just because I think Mason Marchmont had

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a really tough year. Not this past season, but the

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year before. His first year in Dallas really wasn't producing

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in the way that people were hoping for. It was

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right after his dad had passed away. He was dealing

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with a lot of off ice stuff and just the

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move was tough for him. And this year he came

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in and basically quieted all of those critics and had

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really played the role he needed to in Dallas this year,

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came up with a lot of clutch goals, had a

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lot of goals that were taking off the board this year.

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That kind of became what he was known for at times.

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But I think that there's a lot to his game

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where he's at an age too where I think we're

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going to continue to see him trending upwards. And if

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he remains on that line with Tyler Sagan and Matthew Channe,

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I think that consistency can really benefit them. Jamie Ben

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we have seen the beniscence, that's what they call it

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in Dallas, and he's obviously had a great couple of

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years and of course a great career in Dallas. I

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do think that his line is going to be shifting

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this year, so that may he's going to be working

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again with some really young guys. Last year we saw

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him with Logan Stankovin and Wyatt Johnston, and I think

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that was great for him and he went on a

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scoring streak late in the season because of it. But

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there's a chance that he might be with Maverick Bork,

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who will probably be Dallas's newest forward this year. He's

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again going to be in that role of almost coaching

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the next generation of Stars players. Those are the scoring

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guys Maverick, Logan Wyatt, and if he remains with them,

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I think they're going to be taking the bulk with

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the points on that line. I think Jamie Ben's role

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on this team is obviously far beyond scoring, but yeah,

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I'm going to go with Mason for those reasons.

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Speaker 4: We're going to go from the Benaissance to getting a

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little stanky in here because we're going to go to

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Logan Stankoven next. And he's one of my favorite players.

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I think everyone listening knows that he is really awesome.

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No doubt that he's small, but that hasn't really bothered him.

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And after his first dollar season in EHL, he got

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called up late February and he was really pretty good

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the rest of the season. Forty eight point pace in

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twenty four NHL games was really pretty great. He had

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a thirty five point pace in the playoffs. He actually

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won sixty seven percent of the faceoffs. They were actually

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going to him quite a bit there towards the end.

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You might not think that for a smaller guy, but

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he was really great off both his offensive and defensive

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impacts and his small sample size were quite excellent, and

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I don't know, you got to stop me from being

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a little bit too excited here, Leo, what should we

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expect from stank Covin next season.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to stop from being too

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excited about Logan Stankovin because I think the feeling is

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very similar in Dallas. So he comes in and I

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think he had I want to say, eight points in

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his first fourteen games or something like that. He had six,

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four goals or something like that. He hit the ground

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running and that was very exciting for the Stars. That

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really didn't make any moves for forwards at the trade deadline,

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but Logan Stankovien became that person for them. They referred

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to him as like almost a trade deadline acquisition throughout

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the year because he really did fill in and make

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those adjustments help the Stars make those adjustments in that way.

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I think his size is something that a lot of

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people like to focus on, but as you said, he

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really just doesn't play like the size he is, and

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I think he's going to now have a full season

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in Dallas. He came in February, it was just a

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whirlwin for him, and now he's going to get to

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go into camp knowing he's on this team. He's probably

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going to have Maverick work with him, and the two

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of them really excel together in the AHL, and there's

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a good chance that they're going to be on the

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line together again, So I think that would be We'll

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be fun.

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Speaker 3: To see, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think overall, like just Wyatt, Logan, Maverick, three of

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those guys are the stars. Are relying on them to

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be big point producers despite how young they are. Yeah,

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I think the Logan Stankovin definitely went through a bit

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of a slump there late in the end of the season.

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I think he went like twenty two games or so

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without scoring, but once he got out of it, he

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hit the gard running again in the playoffs. I do

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think there's a lot to be hopeful for with him.

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Speaker 4: All Right, that's awesome here And yeah, the next guy

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was going to ask you about, of course, Ivoc Pork

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and yeah, he had two excellent seasons in HL, finally

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made his AHL debut one game in the regular season

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in playoffs. With Joe Pavelski retiring, it seems like there's

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a spot now for him pretty clear and probably middle six.

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As you mentioned, though, his chemistry with stank Covin might

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lead to even more opportunities. We'll have to wait and

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see what happens there. I think you should definitely be

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on people's radar as a Calder candidate. I'm not sure

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that he'll win. There's a lot of stiff competition out there.

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But what do you think we can expect from Bork

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this season in Dallas? Not for the Texas Stars. It

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will be fun to see him full time in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is a good kind of dark

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horse culture candidate as well. I think that Logan came

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in last year and they obviously needed him, and they

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needed him to produce they there wasn't as much there

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was so much depth scoring for the Stars last year

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that they really didn't need goals from Logan. But I

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think there's an expectation that Maverick is going to have

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to come in and help Bill avoid of losing Joe Pavelski, who,

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even though people were down him in the playoffs, he

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was a key point producer for the Stars in the

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regular season. And Maverick has that experience of playing with

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Logan and with Wyatt, and he's twenty two. I want

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to say he's still a young kid, but we saw

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what he did in the AHL last season. MVP, points, scoring, champion,

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all of those things. I think the Stars are hoping

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that can translate. He It was big for them to

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get him some NHL experience. He played one regular season game,

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he played the last playoff game of the year. They

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were pleased with how he looked, and he was called

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up a number of times in between. Never didn't see

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the ice, So he's been around the team and I

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think there's no doubt that there is a spot for him,

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probably in the middle six. As you mentioned, I think

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that he's probably one of the players to watch this

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year and someone that people probably aren't thinking a whole

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lot about from a league wide perspective. But as we've seen,

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these young guys have come in the Star system and

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really excelled in their first year, So he could be

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a player that surprises some people.

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Speaker 2: Let's skip over to the blue line, and of course

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that starts with Mirro Hayskin and the star of the

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blue line. Hayes will be halfway through that eight year

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contract after this coming season. He's missed three weeks in

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January for a lower body issue this year, but he's

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very durable generally in a perennial down ballot Norris nominee,

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quite a big time minutes eater and power play quarterback.

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His scoring really dropped this year. Another one of these

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guys who lost some points from seventy three to fifty

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four points, which I don't quite understand. But have we

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seen the very excellent ceiling of Hayskin already and we

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just think of him as this not the top defenseman

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in the NHL, but maybe that second tier or do

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you expect him to maybe even break in and have

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a Norris here in the second half of his twenties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we've seen his ceiling.

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Speaker 1: I think that Miro dealt with a number of kind

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of factors that led to that points decrease this year. Obviously,

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the injury was a big one. That was just a

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fluke injury. He collided on a play with backup goalie

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Scott Wedgwood.

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Speaker 3: It was a really unpleasant injury to.

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Speaker 1: Watch and that took him out for basically a month

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of the season, So I think that was a pretty

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critical part of it. He also played the entire season

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on his non dominant side. He had to just because

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the Stars did not have depth on the right side,

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and he's there's a chance he's gonna have to do

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that again this year. And I think that the third

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piece of it is he spent a lot of the

482
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season paired with Ryan Souitor early on, and I think

483
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that pairing just didn't totally work the way the Stars

484
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wanted it to. Suitor had been aging, there was a

485
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reason they bought him out at the end of the season,

486
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and it wasn't really until they paired Miro with Thomas

487
00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:11,200
Harley that pairing really came alive, and that was just

488
00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,960
a really reliable blue line pairing for Dallas. And I

489
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,079
think that there's a good chance we see those two

490
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together again this year. They need to keep them together

491
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,559
because the blue line is the big question for Dallas

492
00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:25,160
again this year, despite all the moves they made in

493
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,400
the offseason. So I think we saw a lot more

494
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,640
of Hayskin in kind of in his true form in

495
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the playoffs, him versus cal mccarr and that Colorado series.

496
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,079
They were basically each scoring every night, and he had

497
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a lot of goals on the power plays. I think

498
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that he's always going to be a person that is

499
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,079
going to be key for Dallas in every area. I

500
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,519
think the last season was just a tough season all around,

501
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but I don't think anyone looks at it as a

502
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:53,000
step back for him. He was still the most important

503
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,440
player on the ice for Dallas at all times.

504
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Speaker 4: Lucky for them, they are not just Mira heuskin In

505
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on the back end. They have Thomas Harley, who He's

506
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been one of my guys for a really long time.

507
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,680
It's so awesome to see him finally break through and

508
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,160
been pumping his tires for a long time. Sometimes you

509
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,599
start to wonder that you're just the You're just crazy

510
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,319
not seeing what other people are. But he definitely proved

511
00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:17,200
it twenty one minutes time when I was twenty seven

512
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,880
percent chance of the percent of the power play and

513
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,119
forty nine point pace. Not only did he score a

514
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,599
decent amount, but his offensive impacts were insanely good and

515
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,359
his defensive impacts were pretty good as well. In particular,

516
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,119
his mobility I think has been key compared to some

517
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,039
of the other defenders on Dallas not named Miro heiskin In.

518
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So what do you think, Leah, that we can expect

519
00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:39,480
from Harley next season? You think he can crack that

520
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:42,680
fifty point pace and is there more upside for him

521
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,920
with that mountain of Mirrow ahead of him.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
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Speaker 1: I think that Harley also was one that kind of

524
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showed his versatility this year, and he was always an

525
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,279
interesting story and someone that the Stars really invested in.

526
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They kept him down in the AHL basically for an

527
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,759
entire extra season when he probably could have been ready

528
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,359
to play up in Dallas, just because they wanted to

529
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,880
develop his defense. They knew that he was had some

530
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,359
scoring abilities and that really paid off when he made

531
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his way up to Dallas last year and played the

532
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,000
whole season up there, and as we talked about with

533
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,400
Hayskin and the two of them together was just a

534
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,359
real threat and a real strong pairing. And I think

535
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,680
one that Dallas is going to want to keep Harley

536
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,599
had early on in the season was, you know, score,

537
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,039
He had small goals or something like that, near the

538
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,640
best in the league among defensemen, and once he cooled

539
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,559
off there really picked up kind of defensive aspects of

540
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his game. So I think that he can definitely do

541
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a lot, and even though he's young, Dallas is gonna

542
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:42,440
need to rely on him because they've got some new

543
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,000
guys coming in with Matt Dumba, Iliy Lushkin. They people

544
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,880
who they really don't know what they're going to get

545
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,640
out of them. But Harley was consistent this past year.

546
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,119
Same with Hayskins. He's going to be one of their

547
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,200
top guys for a reason.

548
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Speaker 2: Again, a smuggle with two defensemen at once here, a

549
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,279
couple of them who have definitely maybe more of a

550
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,440
real world or especially es Lindell, more of a real

551
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:09,599
world impact than maybe quite on the score sheet for US.

552
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But also in addition to Eslyndell, we've got Nil's lunk Fist,

553
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,240
a younger player coming up in this system. How do

554
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:18,599
you compare these two for scoring next year and what

555
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,079
do you think of their outcome or their outlook for

556
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,480
this year.

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting one because they are in

558
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,599
very different positions on this team.

559
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:29,559
Speaker 3: Eeslndell.

560
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Speaker 1: As much as we talk about Mira Hayeskin and Thomas Harley,

561
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Essalyndell is clearly the number three on that list for

562
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,240
Stars and their defenseman, and he and Chris Tanna were

563
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,039
great together last year. He's obviously gonna have a new

564
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,640
partner this year, and we'll see what that looks like,

565
00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:46,920
but I think that he has some sneaky offensive abilities

566
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,920
that we started to see once he was paired with

567
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,680
tanne because he was able to bring that out a

568
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,319
little more. Given what Tannaf's talents are and just being

569
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,440
such a solid defensive guy, Nil's Lungquist. His situation comes

570
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:00,680
more with how much ice time he's going to get

571
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,559
and how much trust the coaching staff is going to

572
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,279
put in him. They obviously chose to make him a

573
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:07,799
qualifying offer as a restricted free agent bring him back

574
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,599
this year. He missed a lot of time in the lineup,

575
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,839
not for injuries or anything other than just being a

576
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:17,960
healthy scratch, and they there's a pretty loaded blue line

577
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,119
in terms of bodies right now, so they brought in

578
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,720
all three or four guys through free agency. Leon Bixl

579
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,839
is in the Ahl kind of knocking on the door.

580
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:28,079
Speaker 3: So this is a.

581
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: Make or break year for lung Quist. He really needs

582
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,839
to prove that he can bring that offensive piece that

583
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,880
they really wanted from him when they traded for him.

584
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,960
He used to be on the second higher play unit,

585
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:42,039
got outshined by Thomas Harley, lost that job. Maybe he

586
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:45,680
fights for that job again this year. I'm purely for

587
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,359
the sake of minutes. I'm going to go with Esselndell

588
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,240
because I think that he's going to just have more

589
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,079
opportunities and knows lung Quist, it's still a question if

590
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,319
he's even going to be the seventh defenseman to start

591
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,559
this season, at least early on. I think there's going

592
00:27:58,599 --> 00:27:59,759
to be some serious questions.

593
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Speaker 4: Indeed, let's move on to the goalies. Now. The Stars

594
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,240
were ranked second and expected goals against per sixty at

595
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,279
fivey five. Excellent defensive team. However, the goalies let them

596
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,480
down a bit twelve ranked actual goals per sixty at

597
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:19,640
fivey five. So Scott Wedgwood, who was regressed a little

598
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,119
bit last year but previously had been pretty solid, he's

599
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,319
out in as casey to Smith, who had a stellar

600
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,880
eight point eight two goal save above expected at five

601
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:30,599
five with Vancouver of last season. We all know Jake

602
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,480
Oer is the man here. The contract dictates it formula

603
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,440
four times what the Smith is making. Then he's an RFA.

604
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,880
He's got one more year on that nice contract. But

605
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Ore had negative six point five to one goal save

606
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400
above expected last season by far the worst of his career,

607
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:47,920
last season being his best at nearly triple that number

608
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,279
plus twelve point seven to one, and it's surprising both

609
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,680
at even strength and on the power play. He was

610
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,480
a little bit on the penalty kill, sorry, he was

611
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,480
a little bit better, but overall the run number suggests

612
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880
it was a disappointing season for Leah. What do you

613
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,359
think we can expect from andre and to Smith this season.

614
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, last season for Ottinger similar to what we talked

615
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,839
about with Haysken, and there was just a lot of

616
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,680
factors that I think led to that step back numbers wise,

617
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,720
and he was pretty candid about it just being a

618
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,559
tough year for him. He had off season surgery ankle

619
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surgery heading into last year, so didn't really get the

620
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,559
off season that he wanted, struggled early on in the year,

621
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and then suffered what was really the longest term injury

622
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:32,480
of his career. In December and January he had a

623
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,039
groin injury, so he missed about a month there as well.

624
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,319
And once he came back, once they got Chris Tannev,

625
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,599
things turned around for him late in the season and

626
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:43,240
by the playoffs he was really back to his normal self.

627
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,880
But it was really the first four or so months

628
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,440
of the season that just dragged his numbers down, and

629
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,319
he dealt with a lot of confidence stuff for a

630
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:53,079
lot of just trying to overcome kind of some ups

631
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,160
and downs that he just hadn't really experienced before in

632
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,079
his young career. So I think all of that was

633
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,839
tough for him. This offseason, he got married, no surgeries,

634
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,039
everything is looking good, so I think he's hopeful to

635
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:09,359
go into this year not having those same challenges. I

636
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,480
do think the combination of him and the Smith will

637
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,440
be interesting. The Stars were in a pretty consistent rotation

638
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,680
of three nights, then Wedge would got a night here

639
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,759
and there. The view of the backup goalies and both

640
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,640
really this year was not very much as from a

641
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,960
stats perspective, a lot more from a wins perspective, And

642
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,160
you know, Scott wedg with numbers may not have been great,

643
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,920
but he did get a lot of wins, especially.

644
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: When Ottinger was out.

645
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: So I think from a fantasy perspective, I don't know

646
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,440
how much confidence I would have in that.

647
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: The Stars certainly will need.

648
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,279
Speaker 1: To use the Smith because they've been wanting to wean

649
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,240
back Ottingre's time, and especially to keep him ready for

650
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,400
what they hope will be another long playoff run. But

651
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,519
I think Ottinger is obviously a rising star in the league.

652
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680
There's a lot of reasons to be confident in him,

653
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,240
and I think he believes that the adversity last year

654
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:58,079
made him stronger.

655
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,799
Speaker 2: Very good, Leah, this has been some great intel on

656
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,960
the Dallas Stars. Why don't you let people know how

657
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,319
they can keep following your work.

658
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can read my stuff at Dallasnews dot com

659
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:13,640
or you can follow me on Twitter at lassimac L

660
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A S I M A K. And we'll have Stars

661
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,480
coverage throughout the year. Thanks for having me. This has

662
00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:20,000
been a lot of.

663
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Speaker 2: Fun, awesome, Thank you, Leah Wilson.

664
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Speaker 3: Ben, that's good.

665
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,079
Speaker 4: Fire my goodness with a cat quick grab.

666
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Now it's your wingler goalie talk, but Kat Silverman, Kat's instincts.

667
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,119
Speaker 4: Go once again by Kat Silverman and Ingold mag to

668
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,279
talk Dallas Stars goalies. There is no longer Matt Murray,

669
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:59,559
the other in this system. He's been moved to Nashville.

670
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:03,200
So we're gonna start with Remy twenty twenty six round

671
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,599
pick sixty two, two hundred one pounds. This was his

672
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,759
first full season in the AHL after a bunch of

673
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,640
ECHL time last year along with a few AHL games,

674
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,279
and it went pretty well. Decent numbers nine to four,

675
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,480
s eight percentage, some decent playoff numbers two nine oh

676
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:21,720
seven as gaa lowering in the playoffs, it's always nice.

677
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,480
Looking at his hockey prospecting, it seems to be turning

678
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,640
a little bit lower. A lot of borderline or replacement

679
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,559
level goalies in his comps. Aaron Dell is one, Scott

680
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,119
Wedgwood is another. So not a whole lot of confidence

681
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,480
there from the analytics perspective, Kat, what do your instincts

682
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,480
tell us about Paria?

683
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: I don't think he's anything that the Stars are essentially

684
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:48,960
hanging their future on. But he looks fine. He looks

685
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,559
like someone who's good to have in the system because he,

686
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,640
like you said, he spent a lot of time in

687
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,519
the ECHL last year. From a technique perspective, it looked

688
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:02,680
like he didn't do any backsliding. He is a little spicy.

689
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,400
When I was trying to find highlights for him, it

690
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960
took me a while to find any because I was

691
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,599
scrolling through video clips and the first roughly five hundred

692
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,720
or a goalie fight he got in last year, which

693
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:16,880
is fun there. It's always nice having a goalie with

694
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,240
some personality. But from a technical perspective, he looks fine.

695
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,839
He did really well in the ECHL. It didn't seem

696
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,119
like he was upset that he was assigned to play

697
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:29,359
in the lower tier miners last year, and when he

698
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400
was in the AGL, it looked really good. He was

699
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,519
statistically I believe Dallas's best prospect last year, which is

700
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,279
not saying a whole lot, but is still saying something.

701
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,559
I do think that Dallas needs to maybe restock their

702
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:50,000
arsenal there a little bit, but I know that they

703
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:53,880
haven't necessarily always done the draft and developed. They've done

704
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,680
a lot of trading for their goalies, so that might

705
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,039
be why I think he looks fine. I don't think

706
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,680
he looks like a starter for them, which.

707
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,359
Speaker 3: Maybe they need.

708
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 5: Down the line that they don't necessarily need one right now, so.

709
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: They just need to hit on another Jake Andre. Just

710
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,039
do that every decade or so and then you're fine.

711
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: They should be fine, exactly.

712
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,199
Speaker 4: All right. Yes, let's look talk about the other guy

713
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,599
that's worth talking about in the system, and that's Arno Tefanzi.

714
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,599
That's t I E F E. N. See if you're

715
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:32,559
scoring at home, and he's a German goaltender and twenty

716
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:34,800
twenty three fifth round pick by Dallas so just last

717
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,840
year six foot four, two hundred and twelve pounds. He's

718
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,960
been in the Adler Meinheim system for the last several years,

719
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,360
primarily playing in the del Division the last two years

720
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,960
where and he should be back there again this upcoming season. Overall,

721
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,119
the numbers there look pretty good in terms of his

722
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,039
say percentage been that nine o two to nine ten

723
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,960
range and in the playoffs also looking pretty decent. And

724
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,400
that's a pretty competitive league. It's not like one of

725
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,000
the best leagues necessarily in Europe in terms of SHL

726
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,880
Liga KHL, but it's right up there in the next

727
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,760
tier I would say. But I'd feel free to add

728
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,360
your input on that. Kat. Looking at his hockey prospecting

729
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,519
there really isn't a whole lot because some of the

730
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:16,639
equivalencies weren't available, So he looks basically like just about

731
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,960
no other starter or even one B. So he has

732
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,719
a Peters Gudra backup comp. I don't even know who

733
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,320
that is, Kat, But what do your instincts tell us

734
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,440
about defan Z.

735
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 5: That's a really tough one because all the film on

736
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,480
him looked pretty good. But even though the DEL is

737
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,360
it's a higher tier league than some of the lower

738
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,519
Czech leagues, than the Slovakia League, than the Polish League,

739
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:46,119
it's better than what we see in Britain and Italy,

740
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,719
and I would say it's right on par with Switzerland.

741
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:53,559
There is such a vast array of talent there that

742
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,199
goes from players who are likely headed to North America

743
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,800
or to the KHL, or to even the SHL down

744
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,760
the players who in their spare time are also marketing

745
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,599
executives and bus drivers and coffee shop workers, and so

746
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:16,159
they really have some games that are super competitive in

747
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,280
some that aren't at all. And he is on a

748
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,280
competitive team, which means that he's getting pretty decent development.

749
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:28,079
But I'd love to see a higher tier from him. Essentially,

750
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:29,880
I just want to see what he can do in

751
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,079
North America because a lot of what looks good about

752
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:37,679
his game is Number one, He've got decent size and

753
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,159
he's got pretty decent forms, so his technique looks like

754
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:43,079
he's been working with goaltending coaches for a while. Sometimes

755
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:44,920
you see some really raw talent come out of the

756
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,920
goaltenders in Germany, where you think. I wonder what they

757
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,559
could do with some actual coaching, and in his case,

758
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,960
it looks like he's gotten some good actual coaching, And

759
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,800
I just want to see what he can do against

760
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,239
more talented shooters because right now he's not necessar being challenged,

761
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,000
so his game looks like prowab. We see some goaltenders

762
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:09,480
in the QMJHL and in the OHL and in the

763
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,639
USHL who look like they need to be playing at

764
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:16,960
a higher level for us to really see if they

765
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,360
know when to maintain a technique and when to throw

766
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,440
it out the window, because right now, it looks like

767
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,760
he could play an entire game just based on technical

768
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,719
muscle memory, and I think that's a good guy to

769
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,880
have in your back pocket as a team. I don't

770
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,800
think that's necessarily the next up and comer for them,

771
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,360
but like he said, he was only drafted last year,

772
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,159
so they have plenty of time to really keep an

773
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,280
eye on what he's doing, potentially see if they can

774
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,199
work out a deal with one of the teams in

775
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,920
either Sweden or Finland. I think those are probably their

776
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,639
best beds for finding a more competitive team to loan

777
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,920
him to if he wants to stay in Europe before

778
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
coming in North America. But I think he does need

779
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,559
to do that to really get a good feel for

780
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:01,800
what he can do.

781
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,559
Speaker 4: Essentially, yes, and I should mention that he was just

782
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,719
drafted last year, but he is like a triple over

783
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,079
ager because he's twenty two. So sorry if that was

784
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,199
not Oh wait, no, that's right. Yeah, sorry if that

785
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000
was not clear. He is. He's twenty two. He'll be

786
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,440
twenty three this season. So thanks so much Caffery giving

787
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:28,960
me your instincts on the Dallas Stars. Goalies dig.

788
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: The dynasty, Dig Dallas Stars. Addition, deep in the heart

789
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,800
of Texas, they got the twenty second best prospect system.

790
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,760
According to Victor Nuno, it starts with a no brainer.

791
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 4: Who is it the no brainer or Dallas Maverick Borck

792
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:54,760
twenty twenty thirtieth overall pick. I think people are going

793
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,599
to look back and say, how the heck did this

794
00:38:56,639 --> 00:39:00,679
guy last until thirtieth overall? Pull out your little bingo card.

795
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:04,239
I bet you can probably guess, yep, that's right. He's

796
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,519
five foot ten. Well, he's five ten, one hundred and

797
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,039
eighty five pounds. That was certainly a big reason for

798
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,079
why he almost was a draft to Day two Draft d.

799
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,679
He was the HL MVP this past season most points,

800
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000
First Team All Star. He was awesome, seventy seven points

801
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,840
in seventy one regular season games and eleven more points

802
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,280
and seven playoff games. He did all he could to

803
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,679
take them all the way. Didn't quite work out, fell

804
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,880
just a little bit short, but he was awesome. Did

805
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,440
finally get a call up into the NHL. One game

806
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:36,320
in the regular season, one game in the playoffs. I

807
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,239
don't think we can learn a whole lot from that necessarily,

808
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,280
but he is pretty nhlready and definitely someone who should

809
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,320
be looked at in one year leagues, even because he

810
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,960
looks like he might get a roll, especially with Joe

811
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,440
Pavelski retiring. But Maverick work is awesome. When you look

812
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,519
at his FHL player card, the one thing you'll see

813
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:56,559
pretty clearly though, is that he's more of a points

814
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:58,760
only kind of an option because his hits and blocks

815
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,960
are really low. His shots they are really good, though,

816
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,639
and the biggest positive is probably his assists for sixty,

817
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,280
which are really high in the AHL, and as a

818
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,760
younger player, still being relatively young, he's doing really well

819
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,719
in a tough league on that, so you love to

820
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,360
see that looking at some of his other metrics, like

821
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,440
his play driving is excellent in the AHL, his transition

822
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,760
game and some of his other puckwork aren't quite as good.

823
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:23,719
But he gets a decent amount of power play time,

824
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,679
and he drives play well, and his high danger chances

825
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,800
are a little bit better than average, but overall decent

826
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:33,760
for a very difficult league for Maverick Pork. But let's

827
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,519
hear a little bit more from our fatal scout about Pork.

828
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,119
Speaker 2: Lead scout Jeremy is. That's how important this one is

829
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:44,800
here to talk Maverick Pork skating. Pork is quick in

830
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,920
all facets. He's fast, agile, and quick to react. At

831
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,159
the AHL level, it definitely seemed like he was leading

832
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,079
almost every play. Passing and handling, Jeremy says his hands

833
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:59,599
are quick. Ork leads to deceptive which leads to deceptive

834
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,239
pucket handling from Pork. He's good with it on his stick,

835
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,519
can make quick passes off the stick handle. Shooting the

836
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:10,199
shot is fine, nothing special. Jeremy's suspects whill score most

837
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,480
of his goals from close or off beating his man

838
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:16,000
as opposed to true shooters goals off the rush. Or

839
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,239
from his zone setup. IQ elite, always circling, great at

840
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,559
getting off the open puck. Getting open off the puck,

841
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,719
that is, when he does have the pucket. He seems

842
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,480
to always know where his teammates are bor checking bork,

843
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:33,679
not particularly aggressive, and look for more opportunistic turnovers created

844
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:38,480
by his linemates. Defense. Nothing special, but his speed and

845
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:41,440
agility allow him to cover a lot of ground in zone.

846
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,239
Jeremy could see him being a reliable all situations guy

847
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,360
in the future. The best asset was the playmaking ability,

848
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,840
some combination of shot, stick handling, passing an IQ to

849
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:53,639
more the some of the parts than any one of

850
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:56,159
those skills. But the biggest concern he needs to get stronger.

851
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,159
He can be weak on the pucket in the corners,

852
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:02,119
and it's especially noticeable on faces. Jeremy actually doesn't see

853
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:05,000
him sticking at center long term with Hints and Johnston

854
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,719
already established, but the top tier outcome potential here point

855
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,719
per game line one power play one guy. That's because

856
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
his playmaking game is so good With the right line mates,

857
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,119
Jeremy could see him popping off at the NHL level.

858
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,760
The median outcome here second line power play two sixty

859
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,519
point type guy. That's because he's got the talent, but

860
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:27,360
guys at the NHL level may just be bigger, faster,

861
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,519
and stronger than him, so that would make him settle

862
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:33,119
into more of a secondary role. The stylistic comparable he's

863
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:36,960
going with Mitch Marner on this one, and that was

864
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,119
Jeremy Scott in report. But our friend NHL rank king

865
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:44,119
Mason Black put out a poll Maverick Bork versus draft

866
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:48,320
e Tijiginla of the Utah Hockey Team and Aginla is

867
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,039
winning this one in a ROMP seventy one to forty

868
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,199
nine percent. Maverick Bork routed on this one victor. Is

869
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,400
that how you would do it?

870
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: No, I would not. I think people are excited about

871
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,679
the current recent draftees and that's understandable. T'sa Againla is

872
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,960
very exciting. It's a very exciting story, and he had

873
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,559
a great season, no doubt about it. But I'm still

874
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,079
skeptical that Againla is going to be like a massive

875
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,079
points producer. I think he's going to be an awesome player.

876
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,760
I think he's going to be an all situations kind

877
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,719
of guy for the Utah Hockey Club who hopefully will

878
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,000
have an actual name by the time Againla is there

879
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:26,119
playing for them, but I think it's hard to count

880
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:28,760
out Again. As we're recording this in early August, he

881
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,039
just turned eighteen, so he's super young. His trajectory upward

882
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:35,360
is super high. I'm just not convinced that he's going

883
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,400
to be like point per game kind of guy. And

884
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,920
I do think that Maverick Bork has seventy to eighty

885
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,440
point upside. He has been awesome in the AHL. He's

886
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,400
been awesome pretty much every step of his development, except

887
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,280
for maybe his first year in the AHL, where he

888
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,239
was just great instead of awesome. He's been pretty much

889
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,039
awesome the whole time, and I think that there's pretty

890
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:57,440
high upside here. Some of his comps here in in

891
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,280
the PNHL model is Matt Evenier's Matt Dushane. I think

892
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,760
that it's funny that Dushane is one of his comp

893
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,320
says his I think that's pretty realistic, and the fact

894
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,960
that he's so close. I really like that if you

895
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,280
had to wait, if you're like a rebuilding team, then

896
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,639
maybe I take Againla and bet on maybe an even

897
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,320
higher upside. I think the volatility there is just a

898
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,000
little bit more, and I think the more likely outcome

899
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,320
is that settled into just more of a fifty five

900
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,320
to sixty five point guy all situations, and maybe he

901
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,119
pops off for a little bit more every now and then.

902
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,000
That's my sense on again, Lave, we'll see. I wouldn't

903
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,079
be surprised if he ended up being more of a

904
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,320
point getter because he is so talented. Looking at the

905
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,239
hockey prospecting between these two AGAINLA twenty one percent chance

906
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,719
of being a star. Bork started at thirty six and

907
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,719
has trended a little bit down. He graduated at fifteen

908
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,599
percent chance of being a star. He's listed at seventy

909
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,320
seven percent chance of being in NHLer. I think that

910
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,599
is pretty much a lock at this point. He's going

911
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:57,920
to be in the NHL next season. AGAINLA all the

912
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,880
way up at sixty two percent chance of being in NHL.

913
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,519
That's pretty good. Looking at some of the other comps

914
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:05,519
for Maverick Pork, he's got a lot of really solid comps,

915
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:09,320
a lot of average producers and some other stars guys

916
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,920
like s the Tickenen, Tomas S. Hurtle. I think one

917
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,679
of the ones he looks the most like is actually

918
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,079
Timo Meyer and I like this one because they both

919
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:19,079
started out in the queue, they had some HL time

920
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,920
before coming to the NHL, and actually Bork's equivalent season

921
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,880
is quite a bit higher than Meyers. It's basically a

922
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,519
little bit higher every step of the way, and the

923
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,960
last couple of seasons much higher. We know what Meyer

924
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,960
turned out to be. I think if Pork can end

925
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,400
up being similar to that'd be a pretty good outcome.

926
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,760
I think the Stars would be pretty darn happy about that,

927
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,559
especially since they got him twenty one picks later then

928
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,559
where the sharkscott Myers. That's pretty good looking at the

929
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:46,920
J fresh card, Bork has ten percent chance of being

930
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,880
a Star, fifty four percent chance of being in NHL.

931
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,599
Are pretty decent opportunity there for the for being in

932
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,440
the J fresh card. And yeah, I think if you

933
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:57,840
have a chance to get Maverick Pork, you should. I

934
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,239
think he could have a really strong season because lot

935
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,159
right there in the top six is open for him,

936
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,079
and he is very ready I think for that opportunity.

937
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:06,559
So love me some Avit Pork.

938
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: Jesse, who Victor is your need to know prospect?

939
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,519
Speaker 4: Need to know? We're going to go with Tristan Bertucci

940
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,559
twenty twenty three sixty first overall pick sixty two hundred

941
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:19,159
and seventy nine pounds July twelfth birth date, so really

942
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:22,719
young for this draft class. For his draft class, he

943
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,400
had a good second year in junior with similar production.

944
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:27,519
If you'd like to see, you'd like to see a

945
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,119
step forward, but the team context wasn't quite there in

946
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:32,480
flant of the OHL. He'll be back in the OHL

947
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,559
next Gien due to his age, so he's got another

948
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:38,039
full season at least to go, unless he was going

949
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,320
to make the NHL, which I don't think that he will.

950
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Looking at his tracking data, it actually is interesting because

951
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:47,119
it started out pretty poor for his draft minus one season.

952
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Across the board, he was sub fiftieth percentile and offense

953
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,519
transition defense. In his draft season, his defense remained pretty

954
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:57,599
poor eighteenth percentile, but his offense and transition bumped up

955
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,599
just a little bit to fiftieth percentile. Looking at this

956
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:04,159
past season, his transition game improved dramatically up to eighty

957
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,760
nine percentile. His defense got all the way up to

958
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,880
fifty four, but his offense still didn't look that great,

959
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,679
which is interesting considering the decent amount of scoring that

960
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,840
he was able to generate and looking at his FHL

961
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,159
player card, you can see that his shots for sixty

962
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:21,320
he's got an eightieth percentile hits and blocks are a

963
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,639
bit hits about average, blocks are a little bit lower,

964
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,320
and he was scoring in the eightieth percentile for the OHL.

965
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,079
Looking at some of his underlying metrics, it's interesting because

966
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:31,800
it looks a bit different here in terms of his

967
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,880
actual results in the OHL, his corse and Fenwick were

968
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,559
really high, close to ninety fifth percentile. He got a

969
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:40,719
lot of power play time, his transition game was good,

970
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,320
and so were his high danger chances and puckwork. So

971
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,960
all that looks really strong for Bertucci. But let's hear

972
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,880
a little bit more about him from our VHL scout.

973
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: Here's what Jeremy has to say about Tristan Bertucci skating.

974
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,280
You won't burn anybody, but he isn't a bad skater.

975
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:01,800
His stride is long and powerful passing and handling. Bertucci

976
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,760
makes a good first breakout pass, but won't create something

977
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,239
out of nothing. He's good at making the expected play

978
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,199
owing to his high IQ shooting frustrating shot selection. Needs

979
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,519
to get better at not hitting legs in front of

980
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:18,039
him or just not taking those shots. At the OHL level,

981
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,760
he showed more offensive prowess, but Jeremy thinks that maybe

982
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,719
because his team wasn't very good IQ. IQ very good,

983
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,519
especially in the D zone, could be a bit better

984
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:32,679
making decisions under pressure defense. Physicality and spacing in the

985
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,519
zone are noticeable. He plays a hard nose game and

986
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,000
is good at clearing the front of a net. So

987
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:41,159
the best asset was actually the end zone defense. The

988
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:45,320
biggest concern the offensive game. Top tier outcome here could

989
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,320
be a very nice shutdown D and that's because the

990
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,760
defensive skill set in IQ is there. He just needs

991
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,239
to continue honing his game at higher levels. The fiftieth

992
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,400
percentile of a median outcome here sixth or seventh defenseman.

993
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,920
That's because he's got a lot of desirable traits, so

994
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
he'll get a chance in the NHL, but he may

995
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,000
struggle to stick with the team. And the stylistic comparable

996
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,239
here was Chris Tannepp. Tristan Bertucci goes up in the

997
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:17,159
NDHL ranking Mason Black X poll versus Dominic Badinka, and

998
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,760
Badinka is going to come out significantly head fifty nine

999
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,159
to forty one. Victor. Is that how you do it?

1000
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think neither of these guys are going to

1001
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,599
be super high end in terms of fantasy producers, but

1002
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,920
I do. I like Beadinka playing really high level in

1003
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,760
the SHL. That's where he has been. He's also really

1004
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,760
old for his draft class, and so he was able

1005
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,440
to spend most of his draft season in the SHL,

1006
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:45,599
which is really great. He was just drafted this past

1007
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:50,559
season thirty fourth overall and by Carolina, so I like that.

1008
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,280
I think that I probably would go Bertucci, though. I

1009
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,679
just think there's a little bit more offense here, and

1010
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,840
I think neither of these guys are super offensively inclined,

1011
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,119
but there might be a little bit more for Bertucci,

1012
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,880
So I like that a little bit more his Pinach

1013
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719
league being a little bit higher and having a little

1014
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,760
bit more offense to give. I think Bedinka is in

1015
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,719
terms of if you want someone who's just going to

1016
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,440
be a more for sure NHL or I think it's

1017
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,960
Beadinka for sure he's going to be. He's already shown

1018
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,280
that he can play in a really difficult professional league

1019
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,800
and do pretty well. So the more secure option Badinka.

1020
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,519
If you want someone who you know is going to

1021
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:27,159
get in there and is going to give you games,

1022
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,719
but I think Bertucci, if you want a little bit

1023
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,079
more volatility, a little bit more upside, I would take him.

1024
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two, Bertucci has

1025
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,559
double the star potential that Bedinka does, so that's pretty

1026
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:42,079
clearly in his favor. The NHL probably is also higher

1027
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,639
looking at comparison to some other guys that he maybe

1028
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:48,960
looks a little bit like. In this model, Bertucci has

1029
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,880
a pretty decent comp to Matt Dumba, who's a pretty

1030
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,159
average producer. So that's pretty much maybe best case snare

1031
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:57,199
there are too many star producers that look like him,

1032
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,880
and looking at the j Freshcar five percent chance of

1033
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,199
being a star, twenty six percent chance of being an nhller,

1034
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:07,239
So a little bit more pessimistic as usual. Bertucci definitely

1035
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,320
someone that is just the need to know, that's why

1036
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,199
he's there. It's just someone to keep on your radar

1037
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,280
if you have some space, maybe a good guy to add,

1038
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,400
but I wouldn't go crazy with him trying to get him.

1039
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: Jesse, as featured on a recent episode of Dabber Prospects Report,

1040
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,199
who is the keep your d eye on prospect picture?

1041
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: That's right, this is going to be Christian Cayu twenty

1042
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,000
twenty two to fiftieth overall pick and eighty three pounds.

1043
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,280
This is the brother of Jordan Kyru. Case you're wondering,

1044
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,920
absolutely he is. He's a right handed d And one

1045
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,480
of the things interesting I always like to note this,

1046
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:45,599
he's a September sixteenth birthday, which means he is literally

1047
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,320
one day or he's almost statistically as old as you

1048
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,639
could be for his draft class because he's just passed

1049
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:56,639
the cutoff, So that's interesting. That also means that he

1050
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,360
will be eligible to play in the age earlier than

1051
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,639
maybe others would have been. And he did play this

1052
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:07,360
past season there, who was his first professional season, maybe

1053
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,280
a little bit, you know, earlier than others would have

1054
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,679
but he did fairly well. Twenty three points in fifty

1055
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,320
seven games, also seven points in seven playoff games, which

1056
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,239
was pretty nice. He was someone that I featured in

1057
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,400
one of my epering side articles looking at some young

1058
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,559
players that performed really well in difficult leagues, and he

1059
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:25,800
certainly did. He kind of got a little bit better

1060
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,880
as the season went on. Looking at his FHL player card,

1061
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,960
you can definitely see that his bash is not super strong.

1062
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,199
That might have been just him being a first time

1063
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:38,400
player in a really difficult league. But he didn't shoot

1064
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,239
a whole lot. His hits and blocks were twentieth percentile,

1065
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,679
his shots fiftieth, So overall he looks like he's not

1066
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,159
going to be so great in terms of bash unless

1067
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,199
that changes after at being a little bit more comfortable.

1068
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,760
Ninetieth percentile for goals, though that's really high. He was

1069
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,480
someone who actually could get some goals in the OHL,

1070
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,360
and I wondered if that would translate height in fifty

1071
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,960
seven games for defenseman is really nice bad, so maybe

1072
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,159
there is some promise there of some increased scoring from Kyu.

1073
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:07,280
Looking at some of his underlying metrics, his play driving

1074
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,960
and high danger chances look really good. Some of his

1075
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:13,800
transition metrics don't look as good, and some of his

1076
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,599
puckwork is a little bit on the lower side. But

1077
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:17,199
he got a decent amount of power play time, which

1078
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:19,840
is surprising for such a young player. So all in all,

1079
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,079
I think this is a relatively positive It wasn't amazing,

1080
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:25,320
but it was a really good first HL season for

1081
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,280
Christian Kyrou. But let's hear a little bit more about

1082
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,440
what makes him tick. For my FREHL scout Jesse.

1083
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:35,159
Speaker 2: Lead scout. Jeremy has this to say skating. Cairou isn't

1084
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:37,400
a speedster, but he's a smooth skater who strong on

1085
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,960
his feet. His ability to protect the puck is one

1086
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,000
of his strengths. He can definitely lose braces to fast

1087
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,800
guys though. Passing and handling, Kyrou is confident with the

1088
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,079
puck and patient to make the right pass. He's not

1089
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,719
going to make any flashy moves or setups, but makes

1090
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,320
the right play most of the time. For shooting, Kirou

1091
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,840
has an average shot for defenseman. He gets it through

1092
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,719
an on net, but it's not a booming slap shot.

1093
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,480
Iqkyrus is high end. He's in the right place in

1094
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,159
both ends, aggressive without being risky, and has great vision

1095
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,280
and patience defense Cairo uses his body really well for

1096
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,760
a guy listed as five ten, one hundred and seventy pounds.

1097
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,400
The usual concern with guys' size is being out muscled

1098
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,599
than the corners or not being able to clear the

1099
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:26,559
net front, but Jeremy doesn't see those issues with him.

1100
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,000
He's got a low center of gravity to allow him

1101
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,119
to play a bit bigger in the defensive zone while

1102
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:36,079
keeping the offensive Shiftiness transition will always be Kyrou's calling card,

1103
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,119
but Jeremy'd be surprised that the defense is ever an

1104
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:42,199
actual negative, So the best asset was the IQ and

1105
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,960
transition vision. The biggest concern is team situation. Jeremy thinks

1106
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Kyru is a pretty safe NHLer but doesn't see the upside.

1107
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,320
With all the other guys Dallas has ahead of him,

1108
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:55,840
Heiskanen and Harley probably keep him up the power play,

1109
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,760
limiting his upside. Top tier role would be a fifty

1110
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,199
point point defenseman if he sneaks on too power play

1111
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,199
two and hit his second pair and upside. That's because

1112
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,199
he's got the talent to be a middle parody and

1113
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,960
is good in transition, but Jeremy doesn't see the high

1114
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:13,280
end offensive skill set needed to run a power play.

1115
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:18,000
The median outcome thirty five to forty point defenseman eighteen

1116
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:21,679
to twenty minutes with some penalty kill time two. That's

1117
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:25,079
because his IQ lends him to being a minute muncher,

1118
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,639
but he doesn't have the elite offensive skills and the

1119
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:33,360
stylistic comparable Jeremy cites is Sean Walker Mason Black. The

1120
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,159
NHL ranking put out the poll on x Christian Kyru

1121
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,480
versus Ethan del Maastro and Cairou wins this one fifty

1122
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:45,679
four to forty six. Victor your move.

1123
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this one's easy. Actually, it's definitely Cayrou

1124
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:54,039
and del Mastro. He's someone who he's kind of just

1125
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:57,679
that really steady guy. He's big, he's sixty four to

1126
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:00,679
five pounds, he's very mobile, skates very well. He's got

1127
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,920
your your really good shutdown the although he did put

1128
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,800
up a lot of points in Rockford of the HL

1129
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,119
this past season, But overall, I think that Kyro has

1130
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:10,880
a little bit more upside than del Mastro. Maybe I'm

1131
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,440
underrating del Mashro a little bit, but I do think

1132
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,000
that I would take Kyro. I think he's got a

1133
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:17,599
little bit more offense to give right now. His star

1134
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,000
potential has him as much higher ten percent compared to

1135
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,960
the one percent for del Mastro. And some of the

1136
00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:28,000
comps here for Kyrou aren't maybe super exciting, but like

1137
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,639
a Cam Fowler or Nick Haig, was someone that you

1138
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:32,960
know could work out a little bit. Like looking at

1139
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,039
some of the other hockey prospecting comps for Cayrou, one

1140
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:38,079
of the main ones that you know, not a whole

1141
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:41,320
lot actually, but Stefan Roboda is one who you know,

1142
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,400
average producer. He could end up looking a little bit

1143
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,639
like that, so that would be a decent outcome. I

1144
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,480
definitely agree with Jeremy that there are some guys blocking

1145
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,880
his path through relevance in the NHL right now, but

1146
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,320
you never know, things could happen. I don't think either

1147
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,360
of these those guys get traded, but maybe Kyu gets traded,

1148
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,639
or maybe a situation evolves or he can have some

1149
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:02,199
relevant Plus he's gonna be at least the two or

1150
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:04,440
three more years until he's really relevant, even though he's

1151
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,719
in the AHL right now. I think they probably bring

1152
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,760
him along slowly because they have no need to rush him.

1153
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,519
Looking at the j fresh card, three percent chance of

1154
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:14,880
being a star for Kiro fifty two percent chance of

1155
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,039
being an NHL or so, a little bit more pessimistic

1156
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:21,599
as usual, So Kyrou definitely more of a deeper league option,

1157
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,840
but he definitely still has some promise and it's nice

1158
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,280
to see him have a pretty successful first season in

1159
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,119
the AHL. That's all for the Dallas Stars dig. If

1160
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:31,599
you're a Patriot, you can listen to my top ten

1161
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,360
prospect recap on Patreon and if you're in doing some

1162
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,360
skuyting with us, shoot me a damn on Twitter, Discord,

1163
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,079
or email us.

1164
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: We'll be right back to close out the show. Couple

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Ryan and Tim the commission team behind the Tidy Leagues,

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which are in full swing for drafting for preparation for

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this coming year. Jeremy Vee as our lead scout. Thank goodness,

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he is getting people together to provide scouting reports for

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each and every one of these team previews. Jason helps

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with our prospect ranks. People love those prospect ranks. We

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know you love them as you're coming into the year

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and you're trying to figure out who to draft. Brandon

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is our website guru. He's a scout. He helps with

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prospect ranks and visualizations like the Fantasy Hockey Life player cards.

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If you have some skills you'd like to lend the show,

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hit Victor up in the discord email or on x.

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We're also brought to you by Daber Hockey Daber Prospects.

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Victor is an editor. I write there sometimes too. Follow

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Victor's work as well as his other podcast, Dabra Prospects

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Report with Peter Harling. Be sure to check out Victor's

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writing at ep Ringside. He's writing all the time, about

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every week. It seems like he's part of the fantasy

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team with Cam Robinson and Mike Clifford. I do a

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solo podcast, Dynasty Sports Life. Got guests on about every

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week and we talk different Dynasty Sports sometimes crossover episodes

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in addition to talking baseball, basketball, football. I'm into all

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of them, folks, all of them. Follow us on x

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at fan Hockey Life, at Victor Nuno twelve are the

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handles by which you can keep up, rate and review

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us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever else you get your pods.

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The preseason's coming, Get our numbers up so that people

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will find us as they're preparing as well. Until next time,

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keep living this fantasy hockey life.