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Speaker 2: We'll be talking Dallas Stars right after this break. We
welcome in the show akopolists from the Dallas News. How
you doing today, Leah, I'm doing great.
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Doing great? Doing great? Ready to talk some Stars. If
you look at things in terms of a youthful corps
who's already demonstrated the ability to have success in the
playoffs with rising players still on the way, I got
to say this, Stars fans have to be at or
near the happiest in the league because this really is
quite a thing here after season one standings point from
a President's Trophy. Last year, the Stars made it all
the way to the Western Conference Finals. There were third
and goals for eighth, best in goals against. And then
what have we got now? Joe Pavelski's out rental, Chris
Tnna moved on, and Ryan Souters out, But otherwise the
gang's pretty much back and there are new players popping
into this lineup and probably on the upward trajectory hot rookies.
Will discuss later, although there there still are a couple
of Graveyer. It's also that we'll talk about to keep
it up. Was last season looked at as a success
in Dallas? And do you think the Stars are Legit
Cup contenders this year?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Last season I think was definitely looked at as a success.
It's a little bit of a weird thing when you
look at it now removed because the Stars finished in
the exact same place that they finished a year before
when they reached the Western Conference Finals and lost to
Vegas in Game six, lost Edmonton in Game six. But
I think the team looks at last year as a
big step forward for a lot of the reasons you
mentioned there that youthful core is back. They have moved
on from some of the more veteran players, but they
have players coming in to replace that production. So I
think expectations and hopes are pretty high in Dallas. There's
still some key question marks, of course, around how you
replace a guy like Joe Pavelski, how the defense is
going to look this year, But overall, I think there's
a reason to believe that the Stars can make another
deep run and maybe go a couple games further and
reached the final this year.
Speaker 2: If the Stars make the run this year, Jason Robertson
is going to be a big part of that. He
led the team in forward time on ice and total
points last year, nearly a point per game production. It
was a tick down from that first team All Star
twenty two to twenty three. His advanced as last year, though,
still put him as one of the best players in
the league with legitimate defensive prowess too. He was fourteenth
in Selkie voting as a winger. Robertson just turned twenty
five and as a couple more years on his current
deal before one would expect mister Robertson's going to get
a big old raise. Are you expecting a bounce back
to those twenty two twenty three numbers? And just how
good is this guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Jason Robertson was a really interesting player last year because
he wasn't really getting his points in goals the way
that he was the season before, but he was still
getting you know, he still led the team in points,
as you mentioned there, and I think the Stars went
into kind of a set last year of wanting to
have just depth scoring, not wanting to have to rely
on Jason Robertson to have another one hundred point year,
and I imagine they're going to take a similar approach
going into this year. However, he loses one of his
line mates in Joe Pavelski, so I think there's going
to be a little more pressure on him to produce
a little bit more in the scoring department than he
did this year. But I think Jason Robertson is always
going to be a consistent person that you want to
have on your team. He's always going to be producing.
He's your point per game kind of guy. There are
plenty of stretches where he's going to have an assist
per game.
Speaker 3: You don't really have to worry about.
Speaker 1: Him going cold, and that hasn't been an issue for
the Stars in recent years. Besides maybe a little stretch
in the playoffs not last year, but the year before.
And as you mentioned that, the defensive piece of his
game is something he really focus on and developed this
past year, and it was a big asset for the
Stars in the playoffs. Jason Robertson is always going to
be their their franchise, their go to guy, and a
reliable person for them, especially still so young.
Speaker 2: Matt Dushane is the next guy up. He washed up
in Dallas last year. Not saying he's washed up metaphorically, anyway,
he showed up in Dallas last year after his release
from Nashville, maybe with some of the pressure off. His
sixty five points were third on the Dallas Stars. He
was awesome. His line with Mason Marchmant and Tyler Sagan,
who will talk about both of those guys later played
the sixth most minutes together of any five on five
line in hockey, with the highest percentage of goal scored
on the ice two thirds of any line that had
five hundred plus minutes. He resigned in the offseason. Re
signed in the off season. I should say, how did
Dushane fit into this team and what do you expect
for this coming year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dushane was the piece that the stars really were
searching for and were able to find. He pretty much
made an instant impact when he arrived in Dallas, and
that line with Tyler Stagan and Mason Marchmant was one
where there was something left to be desired entering the season,
and it really felt like du Shane kind of lifted
that group and made them Dallas his best line for
a lot of the first half of the year, and
Tyler Sagan dealt with some injuries. There was some kind
of time where they were split up later in the year,
but they certainly had their moments and Matt duch Shane
was very consistent early on, and then when the playoffs
delivered the double overtime game six game winning goal against
his former team Colorado, which was just a very poetic moment.
He was a really big There was an emphasis on
wanting to bring him back this year, and they were
able to do so for the same amount of money,
and I think there's an expectation that he's going to
be continuing to build on what he did last season,
continue to be a key anchor of that second line
and also being an important veteran presence for a team
that lost some of its veteran leadership this year, so
I think expectations are high for Matt Dushane, especially after
what he did in year one, and I would be
confident that he's going to maintain a pretty important role
in this.
Speaker 2: Rupe. Hints was playing along with Robertson and the departed
Pavelski to the tune of the fourth most minutes on
five was that line another two way force who was
tied were the second most points on the team. Hints
is not a huge peripherals guy hits blocks of shots,
but he definitely gets it done from a real world perspective.
What makes Hints such a small strong player for this
team And do you think maybe he could even crank
up the scoring a little bit back into the mid
seventies this year with the picking up the slack from Pavelski.
Speaker 3: I think absolutely.
Speaker 1: Hints is probably one of the most versatile players on
the Stars team, from his speed, to his scoring ability
to his being a two way forward. In that sense,
I think that he's He had some slumps per se
this year that were a little bit more uncharacteristic. He
really struggled in the playoffs. There were some belief that
he was dealing with some injuries. We know he missed
some games with some injuries. I think all of those
factors played into it, But you can feel a really
big difference when he's in the lineup, not only just
from what he does individually, but just the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's your top one centerman. Of course he's going
to be important.
Speaker 1: So I think that there's definitely hope that he's going
to build and get closer to that seventy point range
for this next year.
Speaker 3: I think that it's certainly possible.
Speaker 1: But Ripay Hints is a key player in a number
of areas for the Stars and going to be important
in any success.
Speaker 3: That they have.
Speaker 4: Definitely another key to their success, especially their continued open
window to win the Cup. Why Johnston, He's the next
guy we're going to talk about. This definitely was a breakout.
The breakout for Johnston. He played a second straight full
eighty two game season, which is super impressive. Most of
those one hundred and sixty plus games played were before
he turned twenty one years old. I know that was
a big fun thing for them when they finally were
able to celebrate his twenty first birthday sixty five point
pace with just seventeen minutes time on ice and thirty
five percent of the power play time on ice ten
total power play points. This past season, he definitely took
a game to another level in the playoffs with sixteen
points in nineteen games played. Quoting there the power play
percentage and the power play points, it certainly seems like
there's room for even more growth in his offensive game,
considering that there's that he might have a little bit
more opportunity. So Leo, what do you think we should
expect from Johnston this season? Do you think you can
pass that seventy point pace, maybe even approach point per game.
Speaker 1: I think so because I think there's a real chance
that why Johnson ends up on Dallas's top line this year.
He was one of the things about why that was
so pressive with the numbers that he put up, as
he was a third line guy, and Dallas really had
three real scoring lines, so it's hard to consider them
for second third lines. But there were times in the
year when he was with Jason Robertson and rope Hit
on that top line when they just needed that extra boost,
and every single time they were together it really seemed
to pay off for them.
Speaker 3: So we'll see what they end up doing.
Speaker 1: There's also a chance Tyler Sagan goes up on that
line with them, which he had done pretty frequently last season,
so might mix things up. But it was, as you said,
a breakout year for Johnston. He's twenty one years old,
a really young kid, a lot of potential, and you know,
was critical in the Stars kind of playoff run all
the success. So I think that he's a player that's
just trending upwards and he's due for a big raise
at the end of next season, So this is going
to be a big year for him to continue to
earn that, and he probably already has in many areas.
But I think that he impressed and shocked a lot
of people last year, and the Stars really rely on
him and Logan Stankovin and all those really young guys
Maverick Bork coming in. I imagine that he's going to be
really the leader of that group.
Speaker 2: Tyler Sagan. I've been such a big fan of Sagan
for a long time. He's probably just never going to
be quite the superstar he was before that hip surgery,
but his scoring rate has climbed each year since fully returning.
He missed an eleven game stretch late in the season
for a lower body injury, was a bit slow returning
before notching thirteen points in nineteen playoff games. In his prime,
Sagan was a slot was a shot machine, but that
really isn't His game at the stage is not a
four shot per game guy. Is a little more like
a two shot per game guy. And the defensive advanced
stats are not great. But with young guys coming up,
it makes me worry Sagan's still entrenched with the second
line this year and what do you expect from Sagan
at this stage of his career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that Sagan definitely will still be a
part of one of Dallas's top two lines. I think
among the veteran players this year, we saw Joe Pavelski,
especially later in the season, his age catch up to him.
Speaker 3: And I understand Tyler Sagan.
Speaker 1: Is not forty years old yet, but we saw some
of those veteran guys get demoted, get down to the
third and fourth line. But Sagan was consistently in one
of those top two line spots and there was a
lot of confidence in him this year. I remember in
the playoffs Pete de Borr said that Tyler Sagan was
one of the people that really impressed him the most
this year and what he was able to accomplish. And
I think, as we discussed before, the addition of Matthew
Shane just worked really to Sagan's advantage and he was
a really able to feed off of each other.
Speaker 3: Mason Marshman in there too.
Speaker 1: I think if there might be a hope to keep
that line together because of how much success they had,
and if they do that, I think you can hope
to see a similar production from them. I think Sagan
was very streaky this year. They were pointing to the
playoffs where he scored back to back games kind of
things like that. I think he definitely has his moments.
He is one of the more veteran players on this
team now, so obviously injuries that kind of thing started
to get adam later in the season. But I don't
think that there's a look at Tyler Sagan like there
was that some of the other veterans this year of oh,
their time maybe coming up. Even though Sagan's dealt with
some pretty serious injuries in his career, I think that
he still looked at as someone who can be a
pretty important contributor.
Speaker 2: There's so many for us to talk about that. I'm
gonna smuggle in a pick on me here between two
different guys who definitely at different times in a different roster,
would merit their own individual long discus. But Jamie Ben
and Mason Marchmont were both excellent once again for this team.
Bend a little bit of a career renaissance, renaissance he's
more lately sixty points in eighty two games. Mason Marchman,
as you said in one of the upper lines as well,
fifty three points in eighty one games. Compare these two,
Who do you think is going to have the better
scoring year? And what are your thoughts on these two?
Speaker 1: This is an interesting one for me. I'm going to
take Mason Marchment just because I think Mason Marchmont had
a really tough year. Not this past season, but the
year before. His first year in Dallas really wasn't producing
in the way that people were hoping for. It was
right after his dad had passed away. He was dealing
with a lot of off ice stuff and just the
move was tough for him. And this year he came
in and basically quieted all of those critics and had
really played the role he needed to in Dallas this year,
came up with a lot of clutch goals, had a
lot of goals that were taking off the board this year.
That kind of became what he was known for at times.
But I think that there's a lot to his game
where he's at an age too where I think we're
going to continue to see him trending upwards. And if
he remains on that line with Tyler Sagan and Matthew Channe,
I think that consistency can really benefit them. Jamie Ben
we have seen the beniscence, that's what they call it
in Dallas, and he's obviously had a great couple of
years and of course a great career in Dallas. I
do think that his line is going to be shifting
this year, so that may he's going to be working
again with some really young guys. Last year we saw
him with Logan Stankovin and Wyatt Johnston, and I think
that was great for him and he went on a
scoring streak late in the season because of it. But
there's a chance that he might be with Maverick Bork,
who will probably be Dallas's newest forward this year. He's
again going to be in that role of almost coaching
the next generation of Stars players. Those are the scoring
guys Maverick, Logan Wyatt, and if he remains with them,
I think they're going to be taking the bulk with
the points on that line. I think Jamie Ben's role
on this team is obviously far beyond scoring, but yeah,
I'm going to go with Mason for those reasons.
Speaker 4: We're going to go from the Benaissance to getting a
little stanky in here because we're going to go to
Logan Stankoven next. And he's one of my favorite players.
I think everyone listening knows that he is really awesome.
No doubt that he's small, but that hasn't really bothered him.
And after his first dollar season in EHL, he got
called up late February and he was really pretty good
the rest of the season. Forty eight point pace in
twenty four NHL games was really pretty great. He had
a thirty five point pace in the playoffs. He actually
won sixty seven percent of the faceoffs. They were actually
going to him quite a bit there towards the end.
You might not think that for a smaller guy, but
he was really great off both his offensive and defensive
impacts and his small sample size were quite excellent, and
I don't know, you got to stop me from being
a little bit too excited here, Leo, what should we
expect from stank Covin next season.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to stop from being too
excited about Logan Stankovin because I think the feeling is
very similar in Dallas. So he comes in and I
think he had I want to say, eight points in
his first fourteen games or something like that. He had six,
four goals or something like that. He hit the ground
running and that was very exciting for the Stars. That
really didn't make any moves for forwards at the trade deadline,
but Logan Stankovien became that person for them. They referred
to him as like almost a trade deadline acquisition throughout
the year because he really did fill in and make
those adjustments help the Stars make those adjustments in that way.
I think his size is something that a lot of
people like to focus on, but as you said, he
really just doesn't play like the size he is, and
I think he's going to now have a full season
in Dallas. He came in February, it was just a
whirlwin for him, and now he's going to get to
go into camp knowing he's on this team. He's probably
going to have Maverick work with him, and the two
of them really excel together in the AHL, and there's
a good chance that they're going to be on the
line together again, So I think that would be We'll
be fun.
Speaker 3: To see, you know.
Speaker 1: I think overall, like just Wyatt, Logan, Maverick, three of
those guys are the stars. Are relying on them to
be big point producers despite how young they are. Yeah,
I think the Logan Stankovin definitely went through a bit
of a slump there late in the end of the season.
I think he went like twenty two games or so
without scoring, but once he got out of it, he
hit the gard running again in the playoffs. I do
think there's a lot to be hopeful for with him.
Speaker 4: All Right, that's awesome here And yeah, the next guy
was going to ask you about, of course, Ivoc Pork
and yeah, he had two excellent seasons in HL, finally
made his AHL debut one game in the regular season
in playoffs. With Joe Pavelski retiring, it seems like there's
a spot now for him pretty clear and probably middle six.
As you mentioned, though, his chemistry with stank Covin might
lead to even more opportunities. We'll have to wait and
see what happens there. I think you should definitely be
on people's radar as a Calder candidate. I'm not sure
that he'll win. There's a lot of stiff competition out there.
But what do you think we can expect from Bork
this season in Dallas? Not for the Texas Stars. It
will be fun to see him full time in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is a good kind of dark
horse culture candidate as well. I think that Logan came
in last year and they obviously needed him, and they
needed him to produce they there wasn't as much there
was so much depth scoring for the Stars last year
that they really didn't need goals from Logan. But I
think there's an expectation that Maverick is going to have
to come in and help Bill avoid of losing Joe Pavelski, who,
even though people were down him in the playoffs, he
was a key point producer for the Stars in the
regular season. And Maverick has that experience of playing with
Logan and with Wyatt, and he's twenty two. I want
to say he's still a young kid, but we saw
what he did in the AHL last season. MVP, points, scoring, champion,
all of those things. I think the Stars are hoping
that can translate. He It was big for them to
get him some NHL experience. He played one regular season game,
he played the last playoff game of the year. They
were pleased with how he looked, and he was called
up a number of times in between. Never didn't see
the ice, So he's been around the team and I
think there's no doubt that there is a spot for him,
probably in the middle six. As you mentioned, I think
that he's probably one of the players to watch this
year and someone that people probably aren't thinking a whole
lot about from a league wide perspective. But as we've seen,
these young guys have come in the Star system and
really excelled in their first year, So he could be
a player that surprises some people.
Speaker 2: Let's skip over to the blue line, and of course
that starts with Mirro Hayskin and the star of the
blue line. Hayes will be halfway through that eight year
contract after this coming season. He's missed three weeks in
January for a lower body issue this year, but he's
very durable generally in a perennial down ballot Norris nominee,
quite a big time minutes eater and power play quarterback.
His scoring really dropped this year. Another one of these
guys who lost some points from seventy three to fifty
four points, which I don't quite understand. But have we
seen the very excellent ceiling of Hayskin already and we
just think of him as this not the top defenseman
in the NHL, but maybe that second tier or do
you expect him to maybe even break in and have
a Norris here in the second half of his twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we've seen his ceiling.
Speaker 1: I think that Miro dealt with a number of kind
of factors that led to that points decrease this year. Obviously,
the injury was a big one. That was just a
fluke injury. He collided on a play with backup goalie
Scott Wedgwood.
Speaker 3: It was a really unpleasant injury to.
Speaker 1: Watch and that took him out for basically a month
of the season, So I think that was a pretty
critical part of it. He also played the entire season
on his non dominant side. He had to just because
the Stars did not have depth on the right side,
and he's there's a chance he's gonna have to do
that again this year. And I think that the third
piece of it is he spent a lot of the
season paired with Ryan Souitor early on, and I think
that pairing just didn't totally work the way the Stars
wanted it to. Suitor had been aging, there was a
reason they bought him out at the end of the season,
and it wasn't really until they paired Miro with Thomas
Harley that pairing really came alive, and that was just
a really reliable blue line pairing for Dallas. And I
think that there's a good chance we see those two
together again this year. They need to keep them together
because the blue line is the big question for Dallas
again this year, despite all the moves they made in
the offseason. So I think we saw a lot more
of Hayskin in kind of in his true form in
the playoffs, him versus cal mccarr and that Colorado series.
They were basically each scoring every night, and he had
a lot of goals on the power plays. I think
that he's always going to be a person that is
going to be key for Dallas in every area. I
think the last season was just a tough season all around,
but I don't think anyone looks at it as a
step back for him. He was still the most important
player on the ice for Dallas at all times.
Speaker 4: Lucky for them, they are not just Mira heuskin In
on the back end. They have Thomas Harley, who He's
been one of my guys for a really long time.
It's so awesome to see him finally break through and
been pumping his tires for a long time. Sometimes you
start to wonder that you're just the You're just crazy
not seeing what other people are. But he definitely proved
it twenty one minutes time when I was twenty seven
percent chance of the percent of the power play and
forty nine point pace. Not only did he score a
decent amount, but his offensive impacts were insanely good and
his defensive impacts were pretty good as well. In particular,
his mobility I think has been key compared to some
of the other defenders on Dallas not named Miro heiskin In.
So what do you think, Leah, that we can expect
from Harley next season? You think he can crack that
fifty point pace and is there more upside for him
with that mountain of Mirrow ahead of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that Harley also was one that kind of
showed his versatility this year, and he was always an
interesting story and someone that the Stars really invested in.
They kept him down in the AHL basically for an
entire extra season when he probably could have been ready
to play up in Dallas, just because they wanted to
develop his defense. They knew that he was had some
scoring abilities and that really paid off when he made
his way up to Dallas last year and played the
whole season up there, and as we talked about with
Hayskin and the two of them together was just a
real threat and a real strong pairing. And I think
one that Dallas is going to want to keep Harley
had early on in the season was, you know, score,
He had small goals or something like that, near the
best in the league among defensemen, and once he cooled
off there really picked up kind of defensive aspects of
his game. So I think that he can definitely do
a lot, and even though he's young, Dallas is gonna
need to rely on him because they've got some new
guys coming in with Matt Dumba, Iliy Lushkin. They people
who they really don't know what they're going to get
out of them. But Harley was consistent this past year.
Same with Hayskins. He's going to be one of their
top guys for a reason.
Speaker 2: Again, a smuggle with two defensemen at once here, a
couple of them who have definitely maybe more of a
real world or especially es Lindell, more of a real
world impact than maybe quite on the score sheet for US.
But also in addition to Eslyndell, we've got Nil's lunk Fist,
a younger player coming up in this system. How do
you compare these two for scoring next year and what
do you think of their outcome or their outlook for
this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting one because they are in
very different positions on this team.
Speaker 3: Eeslndell.
Speaker 1: As much as we talk about Mira Hayeskin and Thomas Harley,
Essalyndell is clearly the number three on that list for
Stars and their defenseman, and he and Chris Tanna were
great together last year. He's obviously gonna have a new
partner this year, and we'll see what that looks like,
but I think that he has some sneaky offensive abilities
that we started to see once he was paired with
tanne because he was able to bring that out a
little more. Given what Tannaf's talents are and just being
such a solid defensive guy, Nil's Lungquist. His situation comes
more with how much ice time he's going to get
and how much trust the coaching staff is going to
put in him. They obviously chose to make him a
qualifying offer as a restricted free agent bring him back
this year. He missed a lot of time in the lineup,
not for injuries or anything other than just being a
healthy scratch, and they there's a pretty loaded blue line
in terms of bodies right now, so they brought in
all three or four guys through free agency. Leon Bixl
is in the Ahl kind of knocking on the door.
Speaker 3: So this is a.
Speaker 1: Make or break year for lung Quist. He really needs
to prove that he can bring that offensive piece that
they really wanted from him when they traded for him.
He used to be on the second higher play unit,
got outshined by Thomas Harley, lost that job. Maybe he
fights for that job again this year. I'm purely for
the sake of minutes. I'm going to go with Esselndell
because I think that he's going to just have more
opportunities and knows lung Quist, it's still a question if
he's even going to be the seventh defenseman to start
this season, at least early on. I think there's going
to be some serious questions.
Speaker 4: Indeed, let's move on to the goalies. Now. The Stars
were ranked second and expected goals against per sixty at
fivey five. Excellent defensive team. However, the goalies let them
down a bit twelve ranked actual goals per sixty at
fivey five. So Scott Wedgwood, who was regressed a little
bit last year but previously had been pretty solid, he's
out in as casey to Smith, who had a stellar
eight point eight two goal save above expected at five
five with Vancouver of last season. We all know Jake
Oer is the man here. The contract dictates it formula
four times what the Smith is making. Then he's an RFA.
He's got one more year on that nice contract. But
Ore had negative six point five to one goal save
above expected last season by far the worst of his career,
last season being his best at nearly triple that number
plus twelve point seven to one, and it's surprising both
at even strength and on the power play. He was
a little bit on the penalty kill, sorry, he was
a little bit better, but overall the run number suggests
it was a disappointing season for Leah. What do you
think we can expect from andre and to Smith this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last season for Ottinger similar to what we talked
about with Haysken, and there was just a lot of
factors that I think led to that step back numbers wise,
and he was pretty candid about it just being a
tough year for him. He had off season surgery ankle
surgery heading into last year, so didn't really get the
off season that he wanted, struggled early on in the year,
and then suffered what was really the longest term injury
of his career. In December and January he had a
groin injury, so he missed about a month there as well.
And once he came back, once they got Chris Tannev,
things turned around for him late in the season and
by the playoffs he was really back to his normal self.
But it was really the first four or so months
of the season that just dragged his numbers down, and
he dealt with a lot of confidence stuff for a
lot of just trying to overcome kind of some ups
and downs that he just hadn't really experienced before in
his young career. So I think all of that was
tough for him. This offseason, he got married, no surgeries,
everything is looking good, so I think he's hopeful to
go into this year not having those same challenges. I
do think the combination of him and the Smith will
be interesting. The Stars were in a pretty consistent rotation
of three nights, then Wedge would got a night here
and there. The view of the backup goalies and both
really this year was not very much as from a
stats perspective, a lot more from a wins perspective, And
you know, Scott wedg with numbers may not have been great,
but he did get a lot of wins, especially.
Speaker 3: When Ottinger was out.
Speaker 1: So I think from a fantasy perspective, I don't know
how much confidence I would have in that.
Speaker 3: The Stars certainly will need.
Speaker 1: To use the Smith because they've been wanting to wean
back Ottingre's time, and especially to keep him ready for
what they hope will be another long playoff run. But
I think Ottinger is obviously a rising star in the league.
There's a lot of reasons to be confident in him,
and I think he believes that the adversity last year
made him stronger.
Speaker 2: Very good, Leah, this has been some great intel on
the Dallas Stars. Why don't you let people know how
they can keep following your work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can read my stuff at Dallasnews dot com
or you can follow me on Twitter at lassimac L
A S I M A K. And we'll have Stars
coverage throughout the year. Thanks for having me. This has
been a lot of.
Speaker 2: Fun, awesome, Thank you, Leah Wilson.
Speaker 3: Ben, that's good.
Speaker 4: Fire my goodness with a cat quick grab.
Speaker 2: Now it's your wingler goalie talk, but Kat Silverman, Kat's instincts.
Speaker 4: Go once again by Kat Silverman and Ingold mag to
talk Dallas Stars goalies. There is no longer Matt Murray,
the other in this system. He's been moved to Nashville.
So we're gonna start with Remy twenty twenty six round
pick sixty two, two hundred one pounds. This was his
first full season in the AHL after a bunch of
ECHL time last year along with a few AHL games,
and it went pretty well. Decent numbers nine to four,
s eight percentage, some decent playoff numbers two nine oh
seven as gaa lowering in the playoffs, it's always nice.
Looking at his hockey prospecting, it seems to be turning
a little bit lower. A lot of borderline or replacement
level goalies in his comps. Aaron Dell is one, Scott
Wedgwood is another. So not a whole lot of confidence
there from the analytics perspective, Kat, what do your instincts
tell us about Paria?
Speaker 5: I don't think he's anything that the Stars are essentially
hanging their future on. But he looks fine. He looks
like someone who's good to have in the system because he,
like you said, he spent a lot of time in
the ECHL last year. From a technique perspective, it looked
like he didn't do any backsliding. He is a little spicy.
When I was trying to find highlights for him, it
took me a while to find any because I was
scrolling through video clips and the first roughly five hundred
or a goalie fight he got in last year, which
is fun there. It's always nice having a goalie with
some personality. But from a technical perspective, he looks fine.
He did really well in the ECHL. It didn't seem
like he was upset that he was assigned to play
in the lower tier miners last year, and when he
was in the AGL, it looked really good. He was
statistically I believe Dallas's best prospect last year, which is
not saying a whole lot, but is still saying something.
I do think that Dallas needs to maybe restock their
arsenal there a little bit, but I know that they
haven't necessarily always done the draft and developed. They've done
a lot of trading for their goalies, so that might
be why I think he looks fine. I don't think
he looks like a starter for them, which.
Speaker 3: Maybe they need.
Speaker 5: Down the line that they don't necessarily need one right now, so.
Speaker 4: They just need to hit on another Jake Andre. Just
do that every decade or so and then you're fine.
Speaker 5: They should be fine, exactly.
Speaker 4: All right. Yes, let's look talk about the other guy
that's worth talking about in the system, and that's Arno Tefanzi.
That's t I E F E. N. See if you're
scoring at home, and he's a German goaltender and twenty
twenty three fifth round pick by Dallas so just last
year six foot four, two hundred and twelve pounds. He's
been in the Adler Meinheim system for the last several years,
primarily playing in the del Division the last two years
where and he should be back there again this upcoming season. Overall,
the numbers there look pretty good in terms of his
say percentage been that nine o two to nine ten
range and in the playoffs also looking pretty decent. And
that's a pretty competitive league. It's not like one of
the best leagues necessarily in Europe in terms of SHL
Liga KHL, but it's right up there in the next
tier I would say. But I'd feel free to add
your input on that. Kat. Looking at his hockey prospecting
there really isn't a whole lot because some of the
equivalencies weren't available, So he looks basically like just about
no other starter or even one B. So he has
a Peters Gudra backup comp. I don't even know who
that is, Kat, But what do your instincts tell us
about defan Z.
Speaker 5: That's a really tough one because all the film on
him looked pretty good. But even though the DEL is
it's a higher tier league than some of the lower
Czech leagues, than the Slovakia League, than the Polish League,
it's better than what we see in Britain and Italy,
and I would say it's right on par with Switzerland.
There is such a vast array of talent there that
goes from players who are likely headed to North America
or to the KHL, or to even the SHL down
the players who in their spare time are also marketing
executives and bus drivers and coffee shop workers, and so
they really have some games that are super competitive in
some that aren't at all. And he is on a
competitive team, which means that he's getting pretty decent development.
But I'd love to see a higher tier from him. Essentially,
I just want to see what he can do in
North America because a lot of what looks good about
his game is Number one, He've got decent size and
he's got pretty decent forms, so his technique looks like
he's been working with goaltending coaches for a while. Sometimes
you see some really raw talent come out of the
goaltenders in Germany, where you think. I wonder what they
could do with some actual coaching, and in his case,
it looks like he's gotten some good actual coaching, And
I just want to see what he can do against
more talented shooters because right now he's not necessar being challenged,
so his game looks like prowab. We see some goaltenders
in the QMJHL and in the OHL and in the
USHL who look like they need to be playing at
a higher level for us to really see if they
know when to maintain a technique and when to throw
it out the window, because right now, it looks like
he could play an entire game just based on technical
muscle memory, and I think that's a good guy to
have in your back pocket as a team. I don't
think that's necessarily the next up and comer for them,
but like he said, he was only drafted last year,
so they have plenty of time to really keep an
eye on what he's doing, potentially see if they can
work out a deal with one of the teams in
either Sweden or Finland. I think those are probably their
best beds for finding a more competitive team to loan
him to if he wants to stay in Europe before
coming in North America. But I think he does need
to do that to really get a good feel for
what he can do.
Speaker 4: Essentially, yes, and I should mention that he was just
drafted last year, but he is like a triple over
ager because he's twenty two. So sorry if that was
not Oh wait, no, that's right. Yeah, sorry if that
was not clear. He is. He's twenty two. He'll be
twenty three this season. So thanks so much Caffery giving
me your instincts on the Dallas Stars. Goalies dig.
Speaker 2: The dynasty, Dig Dallas Stars. Addition, deep in the heart
of Texas, they got the twenty second best prospect system.
According to Victor Nuno, it starts with a no brainer.
Speaker 4: Who is it the no brainer or Dallas Maverick Borck
twenty twenty thirtieth overall pick. I think people are going
to look back and say, how the heck did this
guy last until thirtieth overall? Pull out your little bingo card.
I bet you can probably guess, yep, that's right. He's
five foot ten. Well, he's five ten, one hundred and
eighty five pounds. That was certainly a big reason for
why he almost was a draft to Day two Draft d.
He was the HL MVP this past season most points,
First Team All Star. He was awesome, seventy seven points
in seventy one regular season games and eleven more points
and seven playoff games. He did all he could to
take them all the way. Didn't quite work out, fell
just a little bit short, but he was awesome. Did
finally get a call up into the NHL. One game
in the regular season, one game in the playoffs. I
don't think we can learn a whole lot from that necessarily,
but he is pretty nhlready and definitely someone who should
be looked at in one year leagues, even because he
looks like he might get a roll, especially with Joe
Pavelski retiring. But Maverick work is awesome. When you look
at his FHL player card, the one thing you'll see
pretty clearly though, is that he's more of a points
only kind of an option because his hits and blocks
are really low. His shots they are really good, though,
and the biggest positive is probably his assists for sixty,
which are really high in the AHL, and as a
younger player, still being relatively young, he's doing really well
in a tough league on that, so you love to
see that looking at some of his other metrics, like
his play driving is excellent in the AHL, his transition
game and some of his other puckwork aren't quite as good.
But he gets a decent amount of power play time,
and he drives play well, and his high danger chances
are a little bit better than average, but overall decent
for a very difficult league for Maverick Pork. But let's
hear a little bit more from our fatal scout about Pork.
Speaker 2: Lead scout Jeremy is. That's how important this one is
here to talk Maverick Pork skating. Pork is quick in
all facets. He's fast, agile, and quick to react. At
the AHL level, it definitely seemed like he was leading
almost every play. Passing and handling, Jeremy says his hands
are quick. Ork leads to deceptive which leads to deceptive
pucket handling from Pork. He's good with it on his stick,
can make quick passes off the stick handle. Shooting the
shot is fine, nothing special. Jeremy's suspects whill score most
of his goals from close or off beating his man
as opposed to true shooters goals off the rush. Or
from his zone setup. IQ elite, always circling, great at
getting off the open puck. Getting open off the puck,
that is, when he does have the pucket. He seems
to always know where his teammates are bor checking bork,
not particularly aggressive, and look for more opportunistic turnovers created
by his linemates. Defense. Nothing special, but his speed and
agility allow him to cover a lot of ground in zone.
Jeremy could see him being a reliable all situations guy
in the future. The best asset was the playmaking ability,
some combination of shot, stick handling, passing an IQ to
more the some of the parts than any one of
those skills. But the biggest concern he needs to get stronger.
He can be weak on the pucket in the corners,
and it's especially noticeable on faces. Jeremy actually doesn't see
him sticking at center long term with Hints and Johnston
already established, but the top tier outcome potential here point
per game line one power play one guy. That's because
his playmaking game is so good With the right line mates,
Jeremy could see him popping off at the NHL level.
The median outcome here second line power play two sixty
point type guy. That's because he's got the talent, but
guys at the NHL level may just be bigger, faster,
and stronger than him, so that would make him settle
into more of a secondary role. The stylistic comparable he's
going with Mitch Marner on this one, and that was
Jeremy Scott in report. But our friend NHL rank king
Mason Black put out a poll Maverick Bork versus draft
e Tijiginla of the Utah Hockey Team and Aginla is
winning this one in a ROMP seventy one to forty
nine percent. Maverick Bork routed on this one victor. Is
that how you would do it?
Speaker 4: No, I would not. I think people are excited about
the current recent draftees and that's understandable. T'sa Againla is
very exciting. It's a very exciting story, and he had
a great season, no doubt about it. But I'm still
skeptical that Againla is going to be like a massive
points producer. I think he's going to be an awesome player.
I think he's going to be an all situations kind
of guy for the Utah Hockey Club who hopefully will
have an actual name by the time Againla is there
playing for them, but I think it's hard to count
out Again. As we're recording this in early August, he
just turned eighteen, so he's super young. His trajectory upward
is super high. I'm just not convinced that he's going
to be like point per game kind of guy. And
I do think that Maverick Bork has seventy to eighty
point upside. He has been awesome in the AHL. He's
been awesome pretty much every step of his development, except
for maybe his first year in the AHL, where he
was just great instead of awesome. He's been pretty much
awesome the whole time, and I think that there's pretty
high upside here. Some of his comps here in in
the PNHL model is Matt Evenier's Matt Dushane. I think
that it's funny that Dushane is one of his comp
says his I think that's pretty realistic, and the fact
that he's so close. I really like that if you
had to wait, if you're like a rebuilding team, then
maybe I take Againla and bet on maybe an even
higher upside. I think the volatility there is just a
little bit more, and I think the more likely outcome
is that settled into just more of a fifty five
to sixty five point guy all situations, and maybe he
pops off for a little bit more every now and then.
That's my sense on again, Lave, we'll see. I wouldn't
be surprised if he ended up being more of a
point getter because he is so talented. Looking at the
hockey prospecting between these two AGAINLA twenty one percent chance
of being a star. Bork started at thirty six and
has trended a little bit down. He graduated at fifteen
percent chance of being a star. He's listed at seventy
seven percent chance of being in NHLer. I think that
is pretty much a lock at this point. He's going
to be in the NHL next season. AGAINLA all the
way up at sixty two percent chance of being in NHL.
That's pretty good. Looking at some of the other comps
for Maverick Pork, he's got a lot of really solid comps,
a lot of average producers and some other stars guys
like s the Tickenen, Tomas S. Hurtle. I think one
of the ones he looks the most like is actually
Timo Meyer and I like this one because they both
started out in the queue, they had some HL time
before coming to the NHL, and actually Bork's equivalent season
is quite a bit higher than Meyers. It's basically a
little bit higher every step of the way, and the
last couple of seasons much higher. We know what Meyer
turned out to be. I think if Pork can end
up being similar to that'd be a pretty good outcome.
I think the Stars would be pretty darn happy about that,
especially since they got him twenty one picks later then
where the sharkscott Myers. That's pretty good looking at the
J fresh card, Bork has ten percent chance of being
a Star, fifty four percent chance of being in NHL.
Are pretty decent opportunity there for the for being in
the J fresh card. And yeah, I think if you
have a chance to get Maverick Pork, you should. I
think he could have a really strong season because lot
right there in the top six is open for him,
and he is very ready I think for that opportunity.
So love me some Avit Pork.
Speaker 2: Jesse, who Victor is your need to know prospect?
Speaker 4: Need to know? We're going to go with Tristan Bertucci
twenty twenty three sixty first overall pick sixty two hundred
and seventy nine pounds July twelfth birth date, so really
young for this draft class. For his draft class, he
had a good second year in junior with similar production.
If you'd like to see, you'd like to see a
step forward, but the team context wasn't quite there in
flant of the OHL. He'll be back in the OHL
next Gien due to his age, so he's got another
full season at least to go, unless he was going
to make the NHL, which I don't think that he will.
Looking at his tracking data, it actually is interesting because
it started out pretty poor for his draft minus one season.
Across the board, he was sub fiftieth percentile and offense
transition defense. In his draft season, his defense remained pretty
poor eighteenth percentile, but his offense and transition bumped up
just a little bit to fiftieth percentile. Looking at this
past season, his transition game improved dramatically up to eighty
nine percentile. His defense got all the way up to
fifty four, but his offense still didn't look that great,
which is interesting considering the decent amount of scoring that
he was able to generate and looking at his FHL
player card, you can see that his shots for sixty
he's got an eightieth percentile hits and blocks are a
bit hits about average, blocks are a little bit lower,
and he was scoring in the eightieth percentile for the OHL.
Looking at some of his underlying metrics, it's interesting because
it looks a bit different here in terms of his
actual results in the OHL, his corse and Fenwick were
really high, close to ninety fifth percentile. He got a
lot of power play time, his transition game was good,
and so were his high danger chances and puckwork. So
all that looks really strong for Bertucci. But let's hear
a little bit more about him from our VHL scout.
Speaker 2: Here's what Jeremy has to say about Tristan Bertucci skating.
You won't burn anybody, but he isn't a bad skater.
His stride is long and powerful passing and handling. Bertucci
makes a good first breakout pass, but won't create something
out of nothing. He's good at making the expected play
owing to his high IQ shooting frustrating shot selection. Needs
to get better at not hitting legs in front of
him or just not taking those shots. At the OHL level,
he showed more offensive prowess, but Jeremy thinks that maybe
because his team wasn't very good IQ. IQ very good,
especially in the D zone, could be a bit better
making decisions under pressure defense. Physicality and spacing in the
zone are noticeable. He plays a hard nose game and
is good at clearing the front of a net. So
the best asset was actually the end zone defense. The
biggest concern the offensive game. Top tier outcome here could
be a very nice shutdown D and that's because the
defensive skill set in IQ is there. He just needs
to continue honing his game at higher levels. The fiftieth
percentile of a median outcome here sixth or seventh defenseman.
That's because he's got a lot of desirable traits, so
he'll get a chance in the NHL, but he may
struggle to stick with the team. And the stylistic comparable
here was Chris Tannepp. Tristan Bertucci goes up in the
NDHL ranking Mason Black X poll versus Dominic Badinka, and
Badinka is going to come out significantly head fifty nine
to forty one. Victor. Is that how you do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think neither of these guys are going to
be super high end in terms of fantasy producers, but
I do. I like Beadinka playing really high level in
the SHL. That's where he has been. He's also really
old for his draft class, and so he was able
to spend most of his draft season in the SHL,
which is really great. He was just drafted this past
season thirty fourth overall and by Carolina, so I like that.
I think that I probably would go Bertucci, though. I
just think there's a little bit more offense here, and
I think neither of these guys are super offensively inclined,
but there might be a little bit more for Bertucci,
So I like that a little bit more his Pinach
league being a little bit higher and having a little
bit more offense to give. I think Bedinka is in
terms of if you want someone who's just going to
be a more for sure NHL or I think it's
Beadinka for sure he's going to be. He's already shown
that he can play in a really difficult professional league
and do pretty well. So the more secure option Badinka.
If you want someone who you know is going to
get in there and is going to give you games,
but I think Bertucci, if you want a little bit
more volatility, a little bit more upside, I would take him.
Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two, Bertucci has
double the star potential that Bedinka does, so that's pretty
clearly in his favor. The NHL probably is also higher
looking at comparison to some other guys that he maybe
looks a little bit like. In this model, Bertucci has
a pretty decent comp to Matt Dumba, who's a pretty
average producer. So that's pretty much maybe best case snare
there are too many star producers that look like him,
and looking at the j Freshcar five percent chance of
being a star, twenty six percent chance of being an nhller,
So a little bit more pessimistic as usual. Bertucci definitely
someone that is just the need to know, that's why
he's there. It's just someone to keep on your radar
if you have some space, maybe a good guy to add,
but I wouldn't go crazy with him trying to get him.
Speaker 2: Jesse, as featured on a recent episode of Dabber Prospects Report,
who is the keep your d eye on prospect picture?
Speaker 4: That's right, this is going to be Christian Cayu twenty
twenty two to fiftieth overall pick and eighty three pounds.
This is the brother of Jordan Kyru. Case you're wondering,
absolutely he is. He's a right handed d And one
of the things interesting I always like to note this,
he's a September sixteenth birthday, which means he is literally
one day or he's almost statistically as old as you
could be for his draft class because he's just passed
the cutoff, So that's interesting. That also means that he
will be eligible to play in the age earlier than
maybe others would have been. And he did play this
past season there, who was his first professional season, maybe
a little bit, you know, earlier than others would have
but he did fairly well. Twenty three points in fifty
seven games, also seven points in seven playoff games, which
was pretty nice. He was someone that I featured in
one of my epering side articles looking at some young
players that performed really well in difficult leagues, and he
certainly did. He kind of got a little bit better
as the season went on. Looking at his FHL player card,
you can definitely see that his bash is not super strong.
That might have been just him being a first time
player in a really difficult league. But he didn't shoot
a whole lot. His hits and blocks were twentieth percentile,
his shots fiftieth, So overall he looks like he's not
going to be so great in terms of bash unless
that changes after at being a little bit more comfortable.
Ninetieth percentile for goals, though that's really high. He was
someone who actually could get some goals in the OHL,
and I wondered if that would translate height in fifty
seven games for defenseman is really nice bad, so maybe
there is some promise there of some increased scoring from Kyu.
Looking at some of his underlying metrics, his play driving
and high danger chances look really good. Some of his
transition metrics don't look as good, and some of his
puckwork is a little bit on the lower side. But
he got a decent amount of power play time, which
is surprising for such a young player. So all in all,
I think this is a relatively positive It wasn't amazing,
but it was a really good first HL season for
Christian Kyrou. But let's hear a little bit more about
what makes him tick. For my FREHL scout Jesse.
Speaker 2: Lead scout. Jeremy has this to say skating. Cairou isn't
a speedster, but he's a smooth skater who strong on
his feet. His ability to protect the puck is one
of his strengths. He can definitely lose braces to fast
guys though. Passing and handling, Kyrou is confident with the
puck and patient to make the right pass. He's not
going to make any flashy moves or setups, but makes
the right play most of the time. For shooting, Kirou
has an average shot for defenseman. He gets it through
an on net, but it's not a booming slap shot.
Iqkyrus is high end. He's in the right place in
both ends, aggressive without being risky, and has great vision
and patience defense Cairo uses his body really well for
a guy listed as five ten, one hundred and seventy pounds.
The usual concern with guys' size is being out muscled
than the corners or not being able to clear the
net front, but Jeremy doesn't see those issues with him.
He's got a low center of gravity to allow him
to play a bit bigger in the defensive zone while
keeping the offensive Shiftiness transition will always be Kyrou's calling card,
but Jeremy'd be surprised that the defense is ever an
actual negative, So the best asset was the IQ and
transition vision. The biggest concern is team situation. Jeremy thinks
Kyru is a pretty safe NHLer but doesn't see the upside.
With all the other guys Dallas has ahead of him,
Heiskanen and Harley probably keep him up the power play,
limiting his upside. Top tier role would be a fifty
point point defenseman if he sneaks on too power play
two and hit his second pair and upside. That's because
he's got the talent to be a middle parody and
is good in transition, but Jeremy doesn't see the high
end offensive skill set needed to run a power play.
The median outcome thirty five to forty point defenseman eighteen
to twenty minutes with some penalty kill time two. That's
because his IQ lends him to being a minute muncher,
but he doesn't have the elite offensive skills and the
stylistic comparable Jeremy cites is Sean Walker Mason Black. The
NHL ranking put out the poll on x Christian Kyru
versus Ethan del Maastro and Cairou wins this one fifty
four to forty six. Victor your move.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this one's easy. Actually, it's definitely Cayrou
and del Mastro. He's someone who he's kind of just
that really steady guy. He's big, he's sixty four to
five pounds, he's very mobile, skates very well. He's got
your your really good shutdown the although he did put
up a lot of points in Rockford of the HL
this past season, But overall, I think that Kyro has
a little bit more upside than del Mastro. Maybe I'm
underrating del Mashro a little bit, but I do think
that I would take Kyro. I think he's got a
little bit more offense to give right now. His star
potential has him as much higher ten percent compared to
the one percent for del Mastro. And some of the
comps here for Kyrou aren't maybe super exciting, but like
a Cam Fowler or Nick Haig, was someone that you
know could work out a little bit. Like looking at
some of the other hockey prospecting comps for Cayrou, one
of the main ones that you know, not a whole
lot actually, but Stefan Roboda is one who you know,
average producer. He could end up looking a little bit
like that, so that would be a decent outcome. I
definitely agree with Jeremy that there are some guys blocking
his path through relevance in the NHL right now, but
you never know, things could happen. I don't think either
of these those guys get traded, but maybe Kyu gets traded,
or maybe a situation evolves or he can have some
relevant Plus he's gonna be at least the two or
three more years until he's really relevant, even though he's
in the AHL right now. I think they probably bring
him along slowly because they have no need to rush him.
Looking at the j fresh card, three percent chance of
being a star for Kiro fifty two percent chance of
being an NHL or so, a little bit more pessimistic
as usual, So Kyrou definitely more of a deeper league option,
but he definitely still has some promise and it's nice
to see him have a pretty successful first season in
the AHL. That's all for the Dallas Stars dig. If
you're a Patriot, you can listen to my top ten
prospect recap on Patreon and if you're in doing some
skuyting with us, shoot me a damn on Twitter, Discord,
or email us.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back to close out the show. Couple
of things Dimension play your leagues on fantracks. Fantracks dot
com has fantasy hockey for days and all kinds of
other different sports. You might be thinking last chance to
set up a fantasy football league in the preseason, or
a college fantasy football league, or maybe you're already thinking
ahead to basketball or college basketball. But let's face it,
most of you are thinking fantasy hockey, and now's the
time to get those things fired up. You can do
slow drafts, you know, and set it up so that's
four hours between picks, eight hours one day, whatever you want,
and you know the drafts can go on for weeks.
It's impossible to get people in the same place these
days to do it, and fan tracks is the best
place to roll your slow drafts. Fan tracks HQ has
lots of fantasy content articles on fantasy hockey and other
fantasy sports. FHL is a crew content curator. Kevin Adams
has been helping out with our show prep. He is
the man behind a lot of the prep you hear
on these team preview episodes. We've got crafts er, Simone,
Ryan and Tim the commission team behind the Tidy Leagues,
which are in full swing for drafting for preparation for
this coming year. Jeremy Vee as our lead scout. Thank goodness,
he is getting people together to provide scouting reports for
each and every one of these team previews. Jason helps
with our prospect ranks. People love those prospect ranks. We
know you love them as you're coming into the year
and you're trying to figure out who to draft. Brandon
is our website guru. He's a scout. He helps with
prospect ranks and visualizations like the Fantasy Hockey Life player cards.
If you have some skills you'd like to lend the show,
hit Victor up in the discord email or on x.
We're also brought to you by Daber Hockey Daber Prospects.
Victor is an editor. I write there sometimes too. Follow
Victor's work as well as his other podcast, Dabra Prospects
Report with Peter Harling. Be sure to check out Victor's
writing at ep Ringside. He's writing all the time, about
every week. It seems like he's part of the fantasy
team with Cam Robinson and Mike Clifford. I do a
solo podcast, Dynasty Sports Life. Got guests on about every
week and we talk different Dynasty Sports sometimes crossover episodes
in addition to talking baseball, basketball, football. I'm into all
of them, folks, all of them. Follow us on x
at fan Hockey Life, at Victor Nuno twelve are the
handles by which you can keep up, rate and review
us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever else you get your pods.
The preseason's coming, Get our numbers up so that people
will find us as they're preparing as well. Until next time,
keep living this fantasy hockey life.