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<v Speaker 1>Understand the thinking atheist. It's not a person, it's a symbol,

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<v Speaker 1>an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>The population of atheists this country is going through.

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<v Speaker 1>The rule, rejecting faith, pursuing knowledge, challenging the sacred. If

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<v Speaker 1>I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>not because.

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<v Speaker 3>I put my hand on a book and made a wish.

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<v Speaker 1>And working together for a more rational world.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the risk of thinking. Feel so much more happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth Fusian wisdom will come to you that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Assume nothing, question everything, and start thinking. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking Atheist podcast, hosted by Seth Andrews.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about an encounter that I had

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<v Speaker 2>at the ARC protest in Williamstown, Kentucky. I engaged an

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<v Speaker 2>apologist from the ARC and counter and we talked for

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes and it made my head explode. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to vent about that, and I'll do it

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<v Speaker 2>in just a second, but forgive me. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>now browsing this article out of Newsweek that was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Jennifer Welch. She is one of the co hosts

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<v Speaker 2>of the I've Had It podcast. She's fantastic and she

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<v Speaker 2>takes no prisoners. I mean, she just goes hard and

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<v Speaker 2>she was talking about homeschools, Christian homeschools. She said, homeschooling

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<v Speaker 2>is a quote crazy Christian problem, trickled down stupidity and

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<v Speaker 2>maga on steroids. Now you are listening to someone who

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<v Speaker 2>was homeschooled in a Christian homeschool for about six months

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<v Speaker 2>or so. I was private Christian schooled for most of

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<v Speaker 2>my upbringing, but there was a big blow up when

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<v Speaker 2>I was at Temple Christian School. My mother and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the monitors they weren't allowed to call them teachers, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The superintendent's wife was our monitor in the pace program

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<v Speaker 2>at Temple Christian School. But she had no college education.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't have a college degree, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>part for the course here. You know, maybe she's still teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's like seventy five eighty years old, still teaching

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<v Speaker 2>with no college education, no background in education. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be on brand for what we're seeing out there. But

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and this person had a big blow up,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mom said, oh yeah, fine, I'm gonna yank my

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<v Speaker 2>kids out. We're going to finish the school year home schooled.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure my mother, a theologian, felt more than qualified.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I don't even remember much about the lesson plans,

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<v Speaker 2>except we skated through them in about an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>a half and we just spent the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>day doing whatever we wanted to. Maybe that was the

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<v Speaker 2>plan all along, but I mean, our curriculum was a

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<v Speaker 2>freaking joke. We'd done podcasts on religious homeschooling and private

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<v Speaker 2>at schooling and how they totally, very often will hamstring

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<v Speaker 2>students for the rest of their lives. They just throw

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<v Speaker 2>minnows out into the world totally unprepared for reality. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think Jennifer Welch is absolutely right, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are a few examples of homeschooling that is effective. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>email me, don't get mad at me, all right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about every instance. I'm not speaking in a

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<v Speaker 2>giant generality. I'm talking about when you hear homeschool, what's

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<v Speaker 2>first thing you think? You think, there's a little clucking

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<v Speaker 2>church hen who once her children to be separated from

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<v Speaker 2>all them evil secular studies, and so they bring them

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<v Speaker 2>home and train them to believe that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>talking reptile who spoke to garden nudists, and that a

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred year old guide captained a floating zoo for

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<v Speaker 2>a flood that left absolutely actually the flood left only

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<v Speaker 2>contradictory geological evidence, and that I don't know that people

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<v Speaker 2>lived to be a thousand years old, and that all

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<v Speaker 2>these crazy things in the Bible were true, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't in the Bible, then it's not science. And

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<v Speaker 2>our distrust of science was remarkable. We really felt like

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<v Speaker 2>that scientists were all out there and they were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of chortling to themselves. There was a giant conspiracy because

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<v Speaker 2>God is I don't know, he was the enemy in

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<v Speaker 2>some way, and scientists were the enemy of God. And

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<v Speaker 2>the only science that was legitimate was sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>ken Hem kind of science, the kind of stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>he in Canthoven and other tragic figures have been vomiting

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<v Speaker 2>out to these little impressionable brains when they go out

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<v Speaker 2>to Sunday schools and regular schools or whatever. So I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>homeschooling it was terrible. I left my home school and

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<v Speaker 2>I went back to a Baptist school and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>much better. But Jennifer Welch was taking a call from

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<v Speaker 2>a list and the listener said, I've absolutely had it

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<v Speaker 2>watching some of the stupidest people I went to school

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<v Speaker 2>with decide they're qualified to homeschool their children, and Jennifer

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<v Speaker 2>Welch replied, this is MAHA make America healthy again, OURFK

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<v Speaker 2>Junior's initiative. This is tradwife, This is unvaxed and unjacked

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<v Speaker 2>and all that shit. This is the worst, worst, worst,

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<v Speaker 2>and this shit is America has a crazy Christian problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a fundamentalist, crazy Christian problem. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the freaks of the megachurch. I'm talking about the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that have schools that are these crazy indoctrination factories, hate academies,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when that hit isn't strong enough, they go

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<v Speaker 2>in homeschooling. I just think it's a huge problem. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Department of Education was not happy with her. The

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<v Speaker 2>DOE posted on x and I quote the proven value

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<v Speaker 2>of homeschooling should never be dismissed as trickle down stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that is stupid is your ignorance. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, the Department of Education is being run by

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<v Speaker 2>a World Wrestling Federation magnet. Actually it's not WWF anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's WWE is that World Wrestling Enterprise. What's the E

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<v Speaker 2>stand for? She became she and her husband, right, Vince McMahon, who,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, has been clouded in sexual misconduct allegations

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<v Speaker 2>using the Wrestling Federation to excuse abusive sexually abusive behaviors

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<v Speaker 2>by the wrestlers, and that Linda McMahon, our doe director,

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<v Speaker 2>was in on the cover up. This is also on

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<v Speaker 2>brand for this administration. She got I think, a French

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<v Speaker 2>degree in nineteen sixty six. Never one day, not ever, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 2>did she teach in a classroom, and yet she is

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<v Speaker 2>determining what is taught in classrooms across the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to homeschooling and the ARK. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>have toured the Ark Encounter, and I have been to

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<v Speaker 2>both the Creation Museum and the Ark in Counter, and

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<v Speaker 2>I produced two videos. Both run about ten minutes long,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're kind of a tongue in cheek. They're really

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<v Speaker 2>fun to watch, if I may say, but they're also

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<v Speaker 2>tragic because you see the shit that they're ramming down

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<v Speaker 2>the throats of impressionable believers. I'm going to link those

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<v Speaker 2>in the description box. Atheists at the Creation Museum and

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<v Speaker 2>atheists at the Ark Encounter. When I went to the ARC,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Dillahunty joined me so it was a tag team event.

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<v Speaker 2>He and I are going around these exhibits, and the

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<v Speaker 2>ARC is as pathetic. I mean, they're both pathetic, but

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<v Speaker 2>the ARC makes the mistake. It commits the crime of

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<v Speaker 2>being boring. I mean, say what you will about Noah's Arc.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a boring story. It's crazy, but it's not boring.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Ark encounter you walk in and there is

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<v Speaker 2>some impressive architecture, but the whole thing is really sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a big chasm. There's a lot a dead space.

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<v Speaker 2>So as you walk in, you will see dinosaurs and

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<v Speaker 2>more dinosaurs. And look, there's dinosaurs and they're in cages,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you would keep a dog in a kennel,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had the velociraptors in the raptor kennel. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to take it seriously. And then I see

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<v Speaker 2>more of these little clucking church hens walking their charges,

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<v Speaker 2>young impressionable children, and they're like, oh my goodness, dinosaurs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on the Ark with nouise yam Mingen Yingen, just like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not science, this is not logical, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to talk to each of those children

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<v Speaker 2>and say, your monitor is so full of shit that

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to give her an enema, she would disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask some questions, Go find a secular science book, go

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<v Speaker 2>do something other than this. I just want to save

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<v Speaker 2>these kids. But you know, the Arc Encounter and the

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<v Speaker 2>Creation Museum in fact much more than children. Man this

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<v Speaker 2>obvious at the Arc protest July the twelfth, Williamstown, Kentucky. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>just to sum it up, the Arc Encounter Kenham's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten million dollar exhibits sold to the state

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<v Speaker 2>as a tourist attraction. So they said, Hey, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in hotels and restaurants and industry and tourism

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to be amazing for the state of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>And the State of Kentucky said, well, that'll be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us invest in this tourist mecca that will benefit

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<v Speaker 2>our state. So I was driving up to attend the

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<v Speaker 2>protest and it's bear I mean, I saw a gas station,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of just empty land. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>one hotel that I happened to see is owned by

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<v Speaker 2>the Ark Encounter. Where's the industry, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>And so they sold it to the State of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>But they also sold themselves as a church a ministry

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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted all the tax benefits. Oh what a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful scenari We're a business when we want business benefits,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're a church when we want tax free status.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are slick. And we went out on the

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<v Speaker 2>tenure anniversary of the opening of the art and we

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<v Speaker 2>had a big protest that was going to happen near

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<v Speaker 2>the entrance where people were getting off the highway. And

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of people who were like, why bother,

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<v Speaker 2>why would you do this? What's the matter with your people?

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<v Speaker 2>Leave them alone? Doesn't do anything, doesn't change anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree. I think sometimes the ridiculous must be ridiculed.

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<v Speaker 2>The story of Noah's ark is actually part of a

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<v Speaker 2>much more sinister story, which is that we do not

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<v Speaker 2>have worth. There was no one worthy, no not one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's according to the Bible. We are infected with a

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<v Speaker 2>cancer of sin. We deserve to be horribly punished. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a stripping away or an invalidating of human identity

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<v Speaker 2>and worth and religion, fundamentalist religion Christianity uses them to

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<v Speaker 2>control people and to threaten them and to scare them

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<v Speaker 2>and to lock them away from the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They were afraid. They were afraid of Satan, they were

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of scientists, and they're also afraid of a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other stuff, whether it's vaccines, or immigrants, or Muslims,

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<v Speaker 2>or socialism or whatever. This idea that Noah's Ark is

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<v Speaker 2>just a happy tale about rainbows and birds with olive

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<v Speaker 2>branches and shit like that is monumentally naive. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>really sinister undercurrent going on beyond I think all the

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<v Speaker 2>grift and bullshit that can Hem has been guilty of.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went out to protest, and as we were

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<v Speaker 2>setting up, we saw a few cars arrive and people

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<v Speaker 2>in brown shirts got out with their video equipment and

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<v Speaker 2>lo and behold they were staffers from the Ark Encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>They had come to documents our protests. Now, what are

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<v Speaker 2>they going to do with the footage and a hover

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<v Speaker 2>around the edges? Are they going to try to interview people?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to take all that footage back and

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<v Speaker 2>use it for their own nefarious purposes. I don't trust

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<v Speaker 2>the Ark Encounter to fairly edit anything we say or do.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, all of those things turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>the case, or at least I think they're probably in

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<v Speaker 2>an editing bay somewhere, or maybe they've already released the

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<v Speaker 2>video interviews, and I ended up on camera being interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>by this apologist, a guy that looks a lot like

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas Wilson, that famous American pastor, who, as we speak,

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<v Speaker 2>is petitioning that women should be stripped of their right

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<v Speaker 2>to vote because it's a man's world. Man's the head

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<v Speaker 2>of the house. There should be apparently one vote a household,

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<v Speaker 2>and the woman has been made to serve man, so

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<v Speaker 2>this guy picture Douglas Wilson, and you'll see what this

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<v Speaker 2>going around engaging, and I figure, Okay, eventually I may

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<v Speaker 2>Now I didn't get a whole lot of good footage

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<v Speaker 2>they meant well, but there were some problems, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when they ironed those out, we had a torrent of rain,

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<v Speaker 2>on her chain, and then I got Noah Illusions and

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<v Speaker 2>Noah refused to debate or engage the ark encounter people.

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not it is a waste of time. Should

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<v Speaker 2>we engage. I don't know the right answer. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no illusions that this apologist was going to engage me,

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately the light bulb would go off, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, You're absolutely right. You have such good

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Genesis. I will now reverse my position and

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<v Speaker 2>I will join you, and we will frolic off into

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<v Speaker 2>Reasonville together. I mean, we knew that wasn't going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say, in the back of my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was looking at the people, young twenty somethings

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't say a word, but I thought, I wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>they going to hear from a position of relative safety,

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<v Speaker 2>two arguments or two positions being articulated, And is there

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<v Speaker 2>a chance that they'll say, wait a minute, that atheist

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<v Speaker 2>guy actually had a few really good points. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>I think the reason that I did say yes when

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<v Speaker 2>with a lapel microphone. But I was not prepared for

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<v Speaker 2>the rain, which was just coming down in buckets all

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<v Speaker 2>for if we both stood for about fifty ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>the audio and it's like, so I'm guessing that thing's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to be replaced. That hurts my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a second here before I go off on

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<v Speaker 2>I will be back and I will bloviate further about

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<v Speaker 2>the ARC and counter bloviator at the protest one moment, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because my microphone got ruined in the rain when I

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<v Speaker 2>me giving a summation of that fifteen minute encounter, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty much what you might expect. So he starts

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<v Speaker 2>in good faith, and he introduces his team and hides

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<v Speaker 2>nice talking to you, and immediately he references this big

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<v Speaker 2>It says genocide and incest park. Okay, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>call it genocide and certainly call it incest. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>one of their people doing a stand up with his

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought to myself, I wish I could hear him,

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<v Speaker 2>because how's he getting around this? How do you get

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<v Speaker 2>around drowning the entire planet except for a family of

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<v Speaker 2>eight and then everybody having sex with mom and sisters

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<v Speaker 2>to repopulate the planet. How does one get around that?

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<v Speaker 2>We know the Creation Museum has an incest exhibit. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that you can go through the Creation Museum, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see it in the video. And ken Him's take is, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, back then God's plan, there were fewer of us,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think perhaps our genetic code was purer and

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<v Speaker 2>people weren't going to have all of the problems, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was okay. And of course you and I are

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<v Speaker 2>like and then we think, all right, incest, that's another

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<v Speaker 2>reason we don't want Christian homeschooling, is it not. The

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<v Speaker 2>apologist looks at me and he says, how can you

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<v Speaker 2>even call it genocide? If you are an atheist and

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in the Christian God, how can you even

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<v Speaker 2>call it genocide? And I'm like, well, it has something

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the fact that God killed everybody by

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<v Speaker 2>the millions, perhaps billions, I don't know. How many people

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<v Speaker 2>lived four thousand years ago on this planet. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of people. It was pretty much everybody. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with genocide on that score. But

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<v Speaker 2>he says, how can you call it genocide if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have a standard for morality to know that

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<v Speaker 2>genocide would be wrong? And immediately I thought, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know that rape and murder are wrong

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't believe in an objective moral standard and

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<v Speaker 2>my specific standard maker And I said, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>totally convinced I believe in objective morality, but we understand

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<v Speaker 2>that killing is bad. And then he said, well, is

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<v Speaker 2>it always wrong to kill someone? And how would you

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<v Speaker 2>know that if you're an atheist? And so I began

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the fascinating idea of context. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody breaks into my house and they're threatening my life

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<v Speaker 2>force to stop them. Well, I would have killed them,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would not have been guilty of murder. However,

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<v Speaker 2>if I just go out and kill someone because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to, that would meet the definition. But he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know that's wrong? What about the people

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<v Speaker 2>throughout history who have murdered and it has made their

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<v Speaker 2>lives better, or at least enrich them, or made them

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<v Speaker 2>more successful, or given them great power. He didn't say Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't say Hitler, but I heard Hitler. We all

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<v Speaker 2>here Hitler because that's where he's going. Hitler was an atheist,

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<v Speaker 2>which means he hasn't done his research on Hitler. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's so insulting to be told that I wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 2>the concept of harm. I wouldn't know that killing is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Why in the world would you want to act ethically

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't believe in my God. I get into

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<v Speaker 2>the basics of pro social behaviors, cooperation, coalition, community, surviving

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<v Speaker 2>and thriving on the African Savannah. What about those people

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<v Speaker 2>who don't do those things? Well, society does have its anomalies,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do great harm, and they get away with

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<v Speaker 2>great harm, but historically they don't last all that long

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<v Speaker 2>against everybody else. I mean, we have to admit Hitler

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<v Speaker 2>was eventually defeated and overthrown. Right, there is a corrective

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<v Speaker 2>Erica Gotzig Gibbon talks about this in the primate world,

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<v Speaker 2>where there'll be some alpha for lack of a better

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<v Speaker 2>way of saying it. Who goes in and he he's

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<v Speaker 2>running his tree vibe of primates, you know, chimpanzees, gorillas, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's beating up everybody, and he's abusing everybody. He's

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<v Speaker 2>stealing all the resources, and he enjoys power for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally his group gets fed up and says,

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<v Speaker 2>screw a whole bunch of this. They turn on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't just kill him. They torture him, they

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<v Speaker 2>kill him violently. They're just She had a video at

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<v Speaker 2>a speech that she gave recently, and she wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>show the video of a documentation of this group. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you call it? Group of chimps? Is it a pack,

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<v Speaker 2>a tribe, a flock of chimps? This flock of chimps

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<v Speaker 2>turns on the abuser and they fuck him up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's horrible. So there is a corrective that does happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not able to really get into all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just able to say, yes, we see them, but overall,

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<v Speaker 2>human flourishing is best explained with pro social and cooperative behaviors.

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<v Speaker 2>And I snock any question of my own. You're from

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<v Speaker 2>the Arc Encounter book of Genesis. Who wrote the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Genesis, Well, it was Moses. He said, well, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you know that? How do you know there was

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<v Speaker 2>a Moses? Well, historians, an overwhelming documentation and blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>love And then he managed to throw Aristotle. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>at all these historical figures, philosophers, writers, their existence has

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<v Speaker 2>from the time period. And I just looked at him,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I regret not saying is this. And you

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<v Speaker 2>may have heard me say this before, but the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Genesis starts before spacetime. There are no humans to chronicle,

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<v Speaker 2>before Adam and Eve, before the universe, before the cosmos

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<v Speaker 2>and the earth and light and dark in the water

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<v Speaker 2>and the animal and everything. It's not like Moses was

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<v Speaker 2>hanging around in a tiny little space pod with a

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<v Speaker 2>did not exist. He didn't come down until later on

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<v Speaker 2>in the Book of Genesis. So how was he able

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<v Speaker 2>I'd been thinking more on my feet to ask that

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<v Speaker 2>question for the minions that we're all shooting and recording,

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<v Speaker 2>not for the apologist and it goes on and on.

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<v Speaker 2>As the rain is pouring down. He gives me the

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<v Speaker 2>standard line about how we have faith in scientists and

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<v Speaker 2>why is their belief any less valid than our belief.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he may have challenged as to why we

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<v Speaker 2>would bother to protest something we don't believe in. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the part that made my head explode. And even

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm still pissed off about it. It should have

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<v Speaker 2>been expected. Noah was just about to go on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I politely said, we're done here. Forgive me.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been very kind to engage. I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 2>footage of Noah, and then I'm up on the podium last.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you for And I said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think as far as human goodness, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you and I may have more in common than we

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<v Speaker 2>have in disagreement. And he said this. He actually said

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<v Speaker 2>two things. He said, you have a secret. You have

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<v Speaker 2>done something in your life that if anyone knew about

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<v Speaker 2>it would ruin you. And we all have something about

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<v Speaker 2>us that we keep in the darkest part of our

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<v Speaker 2>hearts that no one else knows about. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>a cancer that lives within us. And if people knew it,

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<v Speaker 2>they would know what darkened hearts we have. It was

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<v Speaker 2>something along those lines. God, I wish I had a recording.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it didn't sound like both so you could

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<v Speaker 2>hear what he said. And I'm like, well, we all

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<v Speaker 2>have made mistakes. Certainly, we all have little secrets, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've all screwed up. You know, we're flawed people.

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<v Speaker 2>But the perfect is the enemy of the good. If

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<v Speaker 2>I've made big mistakes in my life, and haven't we all,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my train has left the tracks, I've hit

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, I've screwed up, I've heard people, I've done

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<v Speaker 2>all it. We've all done it. We've all been human.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, you know, I'm not defined by my

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<v Speaker 2>worst mistakes. And he was talking like we are like

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual criminals who are holding onto in our minds and

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<v Speaker 2>hearts our own criminal record. And if the world knew

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<v Speaker 2>just how tainted we really were, well we would be

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<v Speaker 2>exposed as harmful. We would be unworthy, requiring salvation of

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<v Speaker 2>pardon from the great prison warden in the sky. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do about that. How in the world

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<v Speaker 2>do you get redemption for the wrongs and your life,

422
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<v Speaker 2>the horrible deeds that you have done. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I have wronged someone in my life, my goal

424
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<v Speaker 2>is to understand the wrong and then I find them

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<v Speaker 2>and I admit that I was wrong, and I say,

426
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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry for being wrong, and if there was

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<v Speaker 2>harm done, I say, forgive me for being hurtful. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you were hurt and that's my fault, and I

429
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<v Speaker 2>have real regret about that and real heartache and grief,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want you to know that I'm genuinely sorry.

431
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<v Speaker 2>And then in my own life I make a commitment

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<v Speaker 2>to do better next time. I was thinking of that

433
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<v Speaker 2>Maya Angelou quote where she said when we know better,

434
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<v Speaker 2>we do better. I thought that was a good answer,

435
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<v Speaker 2>but he was not satisfied. And as I wrapped it up,

436
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<v Speaker 2>I thought we were done. I'm stepping away with a

437
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>thank you, and he steps toward me and says this.

438
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<v Speaker 2>He said, I don't believe you ever had a covenant

439
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 2>relationship with Jesus Christ. Excuse me, I don't believe you

440
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>said you were a believer for decades, you were a Christian? Yeah,

441
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.039
<v Speaker 2>I was a Christian. No, I don't believe. I don't

442
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<v Speaker 2>believe you ever had a covenant relationship with Jesus Christ.

443
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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that. And I just stared at him like,

444
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you have no idea who I am. You don't even

445
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 2>know me. You weren't there when I walked up and

446
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>dropped to my knees at the altar that Eastwood Baptist

447
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Church and said the Salvation prayer followed the Roman Road.

448
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<v Speaker 2>If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord,

449
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and believe in your heart got raised him from the dead,

450
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>you will be saved. I confessed my sins and I said, Jesus,

451
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<v Speaker 2>come into my heart and save me. And I meant

452
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 2>it with all my heart. I actually said that prayer

453
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<v Speaker 2>more than once growing up. And that's a whole other

454
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>story you talk about, s Saraty. I was all in,

455
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was all in for many, many years, and

456
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>this guy just wants to invalidate me. I don't believe

457
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 2>you ever had a covenant relationship. You're telling me that

458
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a true Christian. That's not what I said.

459
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I never said that you wored a true Christian. I

460
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<v Speaker 2>said you never had a covenant relationship with Jesus. Well,

461
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>what's the difference. You're saying I didn't do Christianity correctly? Then, No, no, no,

462
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say that. I didn't say you didn't do

463
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<v Speaker 2>Christianity correctly. I said you never had a covenant relationship

464
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<v Speaker 2>with Jesus. And I actually looked at the guy with

465
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<v Speaker 2>a microphone who was holding it up to my face.

466
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<v Speaker 2>This kid from the arcan counter. I'm like, like, so

467
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a proper covenant relationship, which I should

468
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>have had to do Christianity correctly, which means I wasn't

469
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>doing Christianity correctly. That's what he's saying. I've never said

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<v Speaker 2>that you never had a covenant relationship. And I beg you,

471
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I implore you to go to Jesus and drop to

472
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<v Speaker 2>your knees and confess your sins and receive the saving

473
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>power of my God. So now now it's evangelism. And

474
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it was performative because the camera was rolling

475
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 2>and I say, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not broken. I

476
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 2>do not need to be fixed. I'm not your pet project.

477
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, no, I implore you to meet the

478
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>risen Jesus where you are and accept his saving grace.

479
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. He was still talking when I walked away,

480
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and I could feel my blood boiling. And this is

481
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 2>yet another reason why I was there to protest the

482
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 2>arc encounter. I'm supposedly the product of my worst mistakes.

483
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>There was some evil core deep down within me, and

484
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 2>it's always there, and apparently it defines me. It has

485
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>robbed me of my worth to such a degree that

486
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>only a third the third party, can come down and

487
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>fix me. I have to die to myself and essentially

488
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>be replaced with the identity of someone else. His whole

489
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>narrative is that the drowning of the world isn't genocide,

490
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<v Speaker 2>it is an act of love and justice. And even

491
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<v Speaker 2>all these thousands of years later, a guy like me

492
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 2>is still defined by evil and needs to be saved.

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<v Speaker 2>In the speech that I gave, which was ruined by

494
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>a bad microphone, I was talking about the comedy of

495
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<v Speaker 2>the Old Testament. I mean, for a divine master plan,

496
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>we have to admit it's kind of jacked up whenever

497
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<v Speaker 2>it fails. In the third chapter of the book in

498
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<v Speaker 2>the first book of sixty six, the third chapter of

499
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the first book right at the beginning of the story,

500
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>shit goes bad. When people ask about me being an

501
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>atheist activist with a biblical name, I always say, oh, well,

502
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I was the son of Adam and Eve that was

503
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<v Speaker 2>not involved in a homicide. There was a homicide in

504
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<v Speaker 2>the third chapter of Genesis, right, this is was it

505
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 2>after Adam and Eve were kicked out of the guard?

506
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember if it was before or after, So

507
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:23.599
<v Speaker 2>that way wrong immediately, it is a joke. And then

508
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<v Speaker 2>the whole planet I mean, by Genesis chapter six, everybody

509
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>on Earth, everybody is so evil they have to be

510
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>horribly drowned alongside all the animals, and every other resource

511
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 2>is destroyed. It's that bad. Well, that's not humankind's fault.

512
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>That's an indictment of the intelligent designer. That's an indictment

513
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<v Speaker 2>of God. He didn't have any idea how to put

514
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<v Speaker 2>together and implement a plan that actually worked. And the

515
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>entire Bible is all that God says, do this by command,

516
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and as children say, screw that, We're going to go

517
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 2>do something else, God gets pissed. There is smiting a plenty.

518
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>There's all this kind of smiting. We've got swords and wars,

519
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and we've got plagues and blood and sulfur from the sky,

520
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and we've got all these starvation and infanticide. It's all shit.

521
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Shit's always going wrong. And then God's children are like,

522
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>we're really sorry, please if you would stop smiting us,

523
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and then always says, okay, all right, well, if you

524
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>promised to be good next time, I'll stop the smiting.

525
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a joke and the message is so freaking sinister.

526
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I think the Book of Genesis through revelation has to

527
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 2>be protested, it has to be condemned, and I think

528
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 2>inappropriate occasions must be ridiculed as ridiculous. I left there

529
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 2>soaking wet thinking about that apologist, that interview in some form,

530
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 2>possibly unfairly edited. It is probably going to end up

531
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<v Speaker 2>where did they have a YouTube page? Will it be

532
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>on their social media? I will say ever since that encounter,

533
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I have had a total influx of ARC encounter apologists

534
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and promoters and defenders on my social media pages. Apparently

535
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm a pet project now. I posted the image of

536
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the banner genocide and Incest Park with me standing next

537
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>to it, and they're coming, you know what, let me

538
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>read a couple of these hang on let me read

539
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>a couple of the arc encounter defenders, and I promise

540
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I will play the speech from Noah uh seth Facebook,

541
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Hang on, hold on just a second, just like two

542
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty comments on here. Oh wow, there's someone

543
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 2>who's breaking down the arc logistically. That looks interesting. I

544
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 2>may have to come back and read that. Rachel jumped

545
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 2>in with a huge diatribe and a weird reference to

546
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the Guild Christ. I don't know what a guil Christ is.

547
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Gil have you heard of this? This may be a

548
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Speaker 2>gap in my knowledge if it's part of Christian tradition

549
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>or scriptures. She said, I have seen him, the scars

550
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 2>on his hands and the crown on his head, and

551
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:21.679
<v Speaker 2>before he returns the Elijah Isaac Gilchrist will come. She

552
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 2>goes on and on and finishes with I tell you

553
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>ahead of time, so you might believe well good things.

554
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>She showed up to tell me on Facebook. Jeff said,

555
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>the Bible said all this would happen. It told us

556
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>that in the final days people would raise up against

557
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the people of God. It said good would be considered evil,

558
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and evil would be called goods. The mocking of God

559
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>in the twenty first century somehow proves God. Ben chimed

560
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>in and said, it has been said that an atheist

561
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 2>does not find God for the same reason that a

562
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>burg blerd does not find a policeman. Oh he wins.

563
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I am now convinced. Okay, I'm going to come back

564
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>and read this breakdown from a skeptic named Devin his

565
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>It's actually a relatively long comment. It reminds me of

566
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>an article that was published forty some years ago. It

567
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>is posted still at the National Center for Science Education

568
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the NCSSE. It is called The Impossibility of Noah's Ark.

569
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.119
<v Speaker 2>He was written by Robert day Moore, and it is,

570
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>if you will, almost a comprehensive dismantling of Noah's Ark.

571
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<v Speaker 2>So I was looking at Devon's comment and it kind

572
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>of reminds me of that. But I'm going to go

573
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>ahead and narrate it for you, and then we'll go

574
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 2>back and we'll vet his details.

575
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 4>Overall.

576
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, if you'll pardon the expression it really holds water,

577
00:35:52.360 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back and do that next. Nois arc on

578
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>every level. The whole idea of it just sinks. And

579
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read for you a comment that was

580
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>left on my Facebook page by a skeptic. His name

581
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>was Devon, and he broke everything down for us. There

582
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>are an estimated eight point seven million species on Earth,

583
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>give or take, because taxonomy is messy, about two point

584
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 2>two million ar marine, which means, unless we are suggesting

585
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 2>fish needed rescuing from water, roughly six point five million

586
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:39.599
<v Speaker 2>species are land dwelling and air breathing. Now let's be generous,

587
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 2>ignore insects entirely, even though that quietly collapses ecosystems, and

588
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 2>round way down to just one million terrestrial species at

589
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>two of each. That's two million animals already unreasonable, But sure,

590
00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 2>let's keep going, be charitable with mass and call it

591
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty five pounds per animal. That's fifty million pounds or

592
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 2>about twenty five thousand tons of animals. For contexts, the

593
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 2>USS Enterprise displaces not the not the spaceship, the USS Enterprise.

594
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 2>The sea vessel the USS Enterprise displaces about ninety three

595
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>thousand tons, So we're already loading a wooden vessel with

596
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 2>over a quarter of an aircraft carrier's displacement before adding

597
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>anything else. Now add food, because animals insist on continuing

598
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to be alive at two point five percent body weight,

599
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>per day. That's about one million, two hundred and fifty

600
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 2>thousand pounds daily, or another fifty million pounds over forty days,

601
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>another twenty five thousand tons, So we're sitting at fifty

602
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand tons without water waste or the ship itself now water,

603
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>which is where it really falls. Apart the evenet of

604
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 2>very conservative zero point five gallons per animal per day,

605
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a million gallons daily or forty million gallons over

606
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>forty days. At eight point three pounds per gallon, that's

607
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 2>roughly three hundred and thirty three million pounds or about

608
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:22.199
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty six thousand tons volume wise, about

609
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty one thousand cubic meters. The arcs

610
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 2>total volume, based on biblical dimensions is about forty three

611
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 2>thousand cubic meters, so the water alone requires more than

612
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 2>three times the ARC's entire volume before you add a

613
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>single animal or piece of food. At this point we

614
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 2>are at roughly two hundred and sixteen thousand, eight hundred

615
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 2>tons of animal's food and water alone, over twice the

616
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<v Speaker 2>displacement of the USS enterprise on a wooden vessel, and

617
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<v Speaker 2>that wooden vessel is supposedly made of gopher wood, which

618
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 2>has confirmed botanical identity, We don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>what its properties are, or whether it corresponds to any

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<v Speaker 2>real species of tree on top of that Wooden ships

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<v Speaker 2>at this scale run into hogging and sagging, where the

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<v Speaker 2>hull flexes under its own weight and fails. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a known engineering limitation. So even if everything else worked,

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<v Speaker 2>the ship itself is already pushing past what the material

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<v Speaker 2>can handle. Then there's the flood itself. The cover the

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<v Speaker 2>earth up to the height of Mount Everest about eight

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<v Speaker 2>point eight five kilometers, you need roughly four point five

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<v Speaker 2>billion cubic kilometers of water. The oceans today contain about

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<v Speaker 2>one point three billion cubic kilometers, so you need over

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<v Speaker 2>three times all existing ocean water to appear, sit there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then disappear. There is no known mechanism for that.

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<v Speaker 2>If that water came from rain over forty days, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about roughly one hundred twelve million cubic kilometers per day,

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred thousand times current global rainfall. The atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>only holds about thirteen thousand cubic kilometers of water vapor.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't scale that anywhere near what's required to even try,

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<v Speaker 2>atmospheric pressure would have to rise into hundreds of atmospheres,

638
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<v Speaker 2>pushing toward hundreds to near one thousand psi. At that point,

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<v Speaker 2>the air is unbreathable and temperatures become lethal. Everything dies

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<v Speaker 2>before the flood even matters. Even if you ignore all that,

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<v Speaker 2>biology still doesn't cooperate. Two individuals per species creates several

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<v Speaker 2>genetic bottlenecks, and there's no fossil or ecological evidence of

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<v Speaker 2>a global redistribution of species from a single point afterward,

644
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<v Speaker 2>behavior carnivores do not stop being carnivores. You're placing predators

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<v Speaker 2>in prey together in confined stressful conditions for over a month. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were on the arc for almost a year,

647
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<v Speaker 2>weren't they. I mean it range for forty days and

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine. But anyway, stress increases aggression, not decreases it.

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<v Speaker 2>So either you massively increase food requirements to continuously feed

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<v Speaker 2>every predator, or you assume supernatural behavioral changes. Otherwise, predation, panic, injury,

651
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<v Speaker 2>and disease start collapsing the population almost immediately. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>before you get into territorial behavior or the logistics of

653
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<v Speaker 2>separating millions of animals in a confined space. Then you

654
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<v Speaker 2>hit the edge. Cases. Koalas require eucalyptus, which does not

655
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<v Speaker 2>exist anywhere near Mount err Rat or along any plausible

656
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<v Speaker 2>migration route. Sloths are not crossing continents in any reasonable

657
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<v Speaker 2>time frame. There is no fossil trail showing either species

658
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<v Speaker 2>spreading outward from the Middle East after such an event.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the text itself can't quite keep its own instruction straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis chapter six, verses nineteen and twenty says two of each,

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<v Speaker 2>while Genesis seven two and three shifts to seven pairs

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<v Speaker 2>for certain animals. At that point, that's less a contradiction

663
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<v Speaker 2>and more just another loose threat. Now I've heard the

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<v Speaker 2>apologetic on this. The extra animals were sacrifice animals for

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<v Speaker 2>when they I don't know why you had to save

666
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<v Speaker 2>animals to kill them, but that's one of the excuses.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's history. Civilizations were not conveniently wiped out and rebooted.

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<v Speaker 2>Ancient Egypt shows continuous records through the supposed time frame.

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<v Speaker 2>Early Chinese civilization shows continuity. Mesopotamian cultures develop without inter

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, the people who were writing things down

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<v Speaker 2>at the time do not appear to have noticed the

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<v Speaker 2>total destruction of all life on Earth, which is notable.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's the human side of this. Eight people

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<v Speaker 2>as the source of all modern human diversity requires extreme

675
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<v Speaker 2>genetic compression followed by implausibly rapid divergence. Historically, later interpretations

676
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<v Speaker 2>tried to map different populations onto the descendants of Noah's sons,

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<v Speaker 2>especially through ideas like the Curse of Ham, which were

678
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<v Speaker 2>then used to justify racial hierarchies and slavery. By the way, Ham,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this, but Ham is one of the sons

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<v Speaker 2>of Noah. It wasn't Ham, Like, there wasn't cursed Ham.

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<v Speaker 2>Ham was a person. Okay, that's not required by the

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<v Speaker 2>text the Curse of Ham, but it's a very real

683
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<v Speaker 2>outcome of treating this story as literal human ancestry. So

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<v Speaker 2>what are we actually being asked to accept here? A

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<v Speaker 2>wooden ship of unknown material exceeding known structural limits, carrying

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<v Speaker 2>over two hundred thousand tons with more than three times

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<v Speaker 2>its volume require just for water, while billions of cubic

688
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<v Speaker 2>kilometers of water appear and disappear under atmospheric conditions that

689
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<v Speaker 2>would make the planet uninhabitable, all while ecosystems collapse and

690
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<v Speaker 2>somehow reassemble, predators behave unnaturally humanity, bottlenecks to eight individuals,

691
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<v Speaker 2>animals disperse globally without leaving evidence, and multiple civilizations somehow

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<v Speaker 2>fail to notice any of it. At some point, this

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<v Speaker 2>stops being a flood narrative and becomes a scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>every physical, biological, behavioral, historical, and social system fails at once.

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<v Speaker 2>You can lower the numbers, you can be generous at

696
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<v Speaker 2>every step, and it still doesn't work. Not structurally, not biologically,

697
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<v Speaker 2>not atmospherically, not behaviorally, not genetically, not historically, and not mathematically,

698
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<v Speaker 2>and certainly not all at once. If the only way

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<v Speaker 2>the story works is by overriding every constraint at every step,

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<v Speaker 2>then it isn't a description of reality. It's a story

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<v Speaker 2>that only functions if reality is optional. Devin ellen Wood,

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<v Speaker 2>that is impressive. Now, obviously we've got to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and check the numbers, and there are a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you'll pardon the expression, I think the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of the piece it's spot on. I'll link to I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm gonna have to link to my original Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>photo of me in front of the genocide a incest poster,

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<v Speaker 2>where Devin was commenting and you can just scroll down

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to copy and paste and go check everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Devin has no idea that he's that his work has

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<v Speaker 2>become featured in this week's broadcast. I'll try to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and let him know. I don't know if he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be happy. Hopefully he'll be appreciative of that. Now, Noah

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<v Speaker 2>Illusions the second to last speech at the ARC encounter.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that he went hard at ken Hammond Company,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to play you the audio of his speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It runs just under ten minutes. Again, the video of that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's surrounded by rain, he's under attend and he's having

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<v Speaker 2>to almost shout even with the sound system to be heard.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the video is good, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the audio is good. Let me play it for you

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<v Speaker 2>here and you can decide what you think. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me tell you the dilemma that I find

725
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<v Speaker 3>myself in here today. A couple of weeks ago, I

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<v Speaker 3>was on with the Kentucky Atheists doing a fundraiser for

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<v Speaker 3>this event, right, thank you, And during while we were

728
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<v Speaker 3>in between records, Joe told me a rumor that one

729
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<v Speaker 3>Ray Comfort was going to be here. For this protest. Yeah,

730
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<v Speaker 3>just another lie from Ray Comfort. He's nowhere to be found.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing. When I heard that, I went

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and wrote myself a ten minute roast of Ray

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<v Speaker 3>Comfort to deliver as my speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's not here, unfortunately, so I have to give.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>I did write a different speech. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>add lib here or anything. I'm not gonna say I

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<v Speaker 3>was more excited about the Ray's speech, but I will

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<v Speaker 3>say that if Ray Comfort was here, I wouldn't have

741
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<v Speaker 3>to work off of my notes. So instead of Ray Comfort,

742
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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk to you about something that's almost

743
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<v Speaker 3>as bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk to you about the comment section.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So, when this event was first announced, everybody talked

746
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<v Speaker 3>about it on Facebook and they tagged me on it.

747
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<v Speaker 4>I talked about it on Facebook, so I had plenty of.

748
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<v Speaker 3>Opportunities to see what the online commentary was about the event,

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<v Speaker 3>and I will say most of it was very supportive.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the people that heard about it were actually

751
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<v Speaker 3>really glad that somebody that was out here taking it

752
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<v Speaker 3>to the art park, telling people about the violations of

753
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 3>church state separation that made it possible telling people about

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<v Speaker 3>the homophobia that undergirds their hiring practices, tell everybody about

755
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<v Speaker 3>the prejudice that undergirds their entire park. That was most people.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a minority, however, that took issue with what

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing. Some of them were Young Earth creationists. Some

758
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<v Speaker 3>of them were the people that were just there to

759
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<v Speaker 3>tell us how much they were going to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching us burn in hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently there's a window in heaven or a porthole or

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere you can drop in a quarter and watch the

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<v Speaker 3>skin melt off of all the people who beat you

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<v Speaker 3>in arguments on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. No, that's their vision of paradise. People be afraid.

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<v Speaker 3>But there were also a couple other types of commentaris,

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<v Speaker 3>people who weren't directly supporting the art park, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>more of tertiary supporters. There were two types of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to address both of them from the

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<v Speaker 3>podium today. The first were the what's the harm people?

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<v Speaker 3>People would hear that we're coming out here, and they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the harm of the art part? Those people out

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<v Speaker 3>there having fun with their family and they're just doing

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<v Speaker 3>their thing, They're just you know, practicing their religion. What's

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<v Speaker 3>the harm in it? You know, that's a dumb, damn question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but if you weren't paying any attention to

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<v Speaker 3>the news at all, I can understand formulating that question

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen ninety three. But today today you're gonna ask

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<v Speaker 3>me what's the harm of lying about how the world works?

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<v Speaker 3>You can ask me, what's the harm of lying about

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<v Speaker 3>the very foundations of biology in a world where we

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<v Speaker 3>have an anti vaxxer in charge of public health?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the harm? Really?

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<v Speaker 3>You can ask me what's the harm about lying about

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<v Speaker 3>how global weather patterns work in a world that's dying

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<v Speaker 3>of climate change, where we can't do a damn thing

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<v Speaker 3>about it because of the deniers.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the harm?

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<v Speaker 3>They asked me, what's the What's the harm of lying

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<v Speaker 3>about how geology works? In a world where we can't

791
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<v Speaker 3>convince grown ass adults that the Earth is round?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the harm?

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<v Speaker 3>But of all the ologies they get wrong at the

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<v Speaker 3>art part, the most dangerous one, of course, is epistemology.

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<v Speaker 3>The beauty of science, as many of the speakers have

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<v Speaker 3>already pointed out, is not that it teaches us a

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<v Speaker 3>series of facts, although that's very nice of it to

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<v Speaker 3>do The beauty of science is that it teaches us

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<v Speaker 3>how to interrogate the world, how to tell what is

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<v Speaker 3>true and what is false. And if you need to

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<v Speaker 3>know what's the harm of country losing the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>tell what's true and what's false, you need to look

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<v Speaker 3>no further than the White House, thank you, or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they're reflecting pool. It seems crazy to me that anybody

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<v Speaker 3>has to come out here and defend the concept of truth,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's where we are. We have so many people

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<v Speaker 3>out there asking how do we get here? How do

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<v Speaker 3>we wind up in this post truth world of alternative facts. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>the atheists are saying, hey, we've been answering it is

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<v Speaker 3>streaming the answer to that question from the rooftop for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody has a more vested interest in lying about reality

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<v Speaker 3>than religion. Nobody has more motivation, nobody has more experienced,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody has better funded. That's what happened to truth. What

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<v Speaker 3>happened to truth is ken Ham got a hold of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you might think that epistemology is the worst thing

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<v Speaker 3>we could possibly lie to their children about, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they also lie about ethics. They lie about how

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<v Speaker 3>morality works. There's a homophobia minimum. If you want to

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<v Speaker 3>work at the art part, right, there's a bigotry minimum

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<v Speaker 3>to work there. And the only way that you can

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<v Speaker 3>get there, the only way that anybody would be willing

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<v Speaker 3>to accept that, is that they've been lied to about

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<v Speaker 3>how ethics work.

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<v Speaker 4>As atheists, we're constantly asked, where do we get our morals? Right? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the truth is, of course we get our morals the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same damn place everybody else gets them.

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<v Speaker 4>But they don't seem to realize that.

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<v Speaker 3>They say we get our morals from the Bible, yet

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<v Speaker 3>they somehow know which parts of.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bible are immoral.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But of course they've been convinced that suffering comes

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<v Speaker 3>from a lady eating the wrong apple.

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<v Speaker 4>And wolves come from old books.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's easy to lie to them. So that's my

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<v Speaker 3>answer to what's the harm? Truth matters, and it's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>that anybody even has to say it. But there was

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<v Speaker 3>one other question that I wanted to address, and those

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<v Speaker 3>are the people who are always asking, and they asked.

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<v Speaker 4>Me this about a lot of things. Why you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>be so mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Why you got to be so mean to those people

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<v Speaker 3>while they're out on vacation with their kids, they're just

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<v Speaker 3>having them trying to have fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, of course that question sort of assumes that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a good answer for the first question, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're lying to people in a dangerous way,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're charging them sixty dollars a ticket to do

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<v Speaker 3>it plus parking, and I'm out here trying to tell

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<v Speaker 3>them the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>For free in the rain, who's being mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 4>You remember? You?

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<v Speaker 3>You know we talked about how this purg was built

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<v Speaker 3>on lies. We're not just talking about the lies that promotes.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not just talking about Young Earth creationism. It was

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<v Speaker 3>literally built upon lies. You remember the vision of prosperity

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<v Speaker 3>that ken Ham sold this area when they mortgaged their

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<v Speaker 3>future to get the park into this place. Remember the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers of you, all that talking had about all these

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<v Speaker 3>new hotels and these restaurants and these businesses that we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna open up to serve all the customers that were gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Come flooding into his art park. An An you guys

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<v Speaker 4>see them?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Did I scare them off?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even have to say fuck? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So no, I don't want to have any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of civil conversation with you. You lie to children for

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<v Speaker 3>a living, and that's disgusting, thank you. Speaking of lying,

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<v Speaker 3>they also he says, I'm scared. Hey, how want you

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<v Speaker 3>shut the fuck up and let us do our things?

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<v Speaker 4>So okay? So anyway, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of the lies they told, I was looking on

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<v Speaker 3>my way and did anybody see any of these new

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<v Speaker 3>hotels and businesses because I came in the backway. Apparently

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<v Speaker 3>didn't notice any of those. There's also you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>also lied about the projection numbers. They actually put a

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<v Speaker 3>number on that. They said, ten years on they would

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<v Speaker 3>have they would be servicing two point eight million guests

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<v Speaker 3>per year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't even get the point eight Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they don't open until one o'clock today. That's not what

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<v Speaker 3>a successful theme park does, right, So okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lie. Here's another one. You remember all the new

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<v Speaker 3>jobs that they promise. Again, they put a number on it.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, ten years on, the art park's existence would

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<v Speaker 3>have created the equivalent of three thousand new full time

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<v Speaker 3>jobs in this area. They never got a third of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they promised that there would be new jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>they never mentioned the homophobia minimum. They never mentioned that

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<v Speaker 3>those jobs will be restricted to biggots, or people who

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<v Speaker 3>at least pretended to be biggots for the purposes of

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<v Speaker 3>their employment. That is a lie. Everything they told this

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<v Speaker 3>town is a lot. He didn't bring them prosperity. He

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<v Speaker 3>brought him increased taxes. He brought him increased strain under

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<v Speaker 3>municipal services, and says they mortgaged their.

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<v Speaker 4>Future to get him here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not even contributing to the taxes of the community

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<v Speaker 3>the way any.

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<v Speaker 4>Other for profit business would so.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, as Joe pointed out, when they tried

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<v Speaker 3>to recoup even a small fraction of the money that

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<v Speaker 3>this park was costing them, they fought them tooth and

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<v Speaker 3>nail and tried all kind of crooked shit to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of pay in their fair share, because that is

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<v Speaker 3>who they are. They are liars all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>their core. So let me just say in conclusion that

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<v Speaker 3>the Ark and Counter theme park is dangerous, it's disingenuous,

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<v Speaker 3>it's dishonest, it's homophobic, is transphobic, and it is woefully

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<v Speaker 3>under taxed, which, by the way, was the same clothes

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<v Speaker 3>that I had for the Ray Comfort roast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, big shout out to the Tri State freethinkers

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<v Speaker 2>and Kentucky Atheists. They put the entire ARC protests together

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a lot of fun. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a worthy protest. I'm so glad that you made it

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<v Speaker 2>through my rant today, and it was kind of fun

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to Noah. You know, it's always fun

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the Bible from time to time

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<v Speaker 2>and just take it apart bit by bit. I will

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<v Speaker 2>see you back here next week and we will podcast

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<v Speaker 2>all over again.

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