Speaker 1: December twelve, twenty twenty five, allegedly according to that thing
Speaker 1: we call a calendar, and this is the show now.
Speaker 1: Of course, if you're not hearing us at exactly eight
Speaker 1: pm Eastern in what we used to call America on
Speaker 1: the twelfth day of December twenty twenty five, if you're
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Speaker 1: us three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna come up with a pre played,
Speaker 1: you know, pre recorded announcement to do the phone calls
Speaker 1: from now on. We're gonna change some stuff. Obviously, it's
Speaker 1: been a little slower from me lately. I'm dealing with
Speaker 1: some issues here that are kind of serious. I don't
Speaker 1: know how serious to take them all, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm injured and I'm not working as much as I should,
Speaker 1: and that's the way it is right now. I do
Speaker 1: intend to put out more stuff and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: at it. We only got the one podcast this week
Speaker 1: with Larry Hancock, and hopefully you guys heard that. It
Speaker 1: was about modern issues that's for sure, and maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get into that tonight or whatever's on your mind you
Speaker 1: listening to us live, that is, because that's how this
Speaker 1: show goes. Three one nine, five, two seven, five zero
Speaker 1: one six. My co host b Pete is with me,
Speaker 1: and I'm anxious to hear how his week went, because
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to him at all this week. I
Speaker 1: was busy sorting out ubers and idiot and idiot quacks
Speaker 1: and white coats. Wow, that's some noise there you making coffee,
Speaker 1: b Pete.
Speaker 2: No, I'm badly. I don't know what happened. About two
Speaker 2: hours ago.
Speaker 3: My nose started running and my stinus is slam shut
Speaker 3: and following what the hell.
Speaker 2: Was going on?
Speaker 1: Are you having trouble breathing?
Speaker 2: If you hear me sniffling all night?
Speaker 1: You know what? Are you having trouble breathing?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Just no, it's just all of a sudden, my nose
Speaker 3: and sinuses.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's something in my heating.
Speaker 3: Ducks or something that got stirred up, but it's like
Speaker 3: water walking in like me in the springtime, walking into
Speaker 3: the middle of a pine forest. I just start sneezing,
Speaker 3: you know, within seconds, Well, that's it's happened again tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Ah, So you haven't stirred up some dust. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: some kind of minor allergen is bothering you. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: fair enough. I'll trade your problems if you want. You
Speaker 1: don't want that, Yeah, I don't think you want to trade.
Speaker 1: You know what, I wouldn't make the trade anyway, be
Speaker 1: totally unfair. I got to amuse myself somehow. VP. You know,
Speaker 1: we could kick off with the things that are in
Speaker 1: the news, but I'm caring less and less as the
Speaker 1: year is coming to close about what's in the news.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it's just getting more and
Speaker 1: more stupid. What did we get nineteen? Okay, so everybody
Speaker 1: in public was screaming about these nineteen pictures from the
Speaker 1: Epstein estate and all that. I got to tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: if you're well sourced, I got a zip folder with
Speaker 1: thousands of photos from the Epstein estate this morning. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I got it, but that's what I got.
Speaker 1: I got I don't know, twenty thirty thousand pictures. Maybe
Speaker 1: this stupid zip folder. I don't even want to open it,
Speaker 1: although I have already anything incriminating. Well, no, no, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to open it, but I did. And I
Speaker 1: can't have possibly gone through thirty thousand pictures and even
Speaker 1: really looked at them to see what they were, you know.
Speaker 1: So but I started to and a lot of it, honestly,
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that they collected here is crap.
Speaker 1: I mean there's pictures of like paintings and lamps and
Speaker 1: desks and all kinds of stuff in these photos. It's
Speaker 1: like they took a complete collection of photos that he
Speaker 1: had either on his laptop or in his cloud accounts somewhere,
Speaker 1: and finally decided to turn them over, and it's just everything.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot in there.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, people have already floated the pictures with Trump
Speaker 1: and with Steve Bannon, and with Bill Gates and with
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. Did I mention Bill Clinton yet? You know?
Speaker 1: And everybody else? Woody Allen, I think it's in some
Speaker 1: of them, A couple of former Treasury secretaries and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Oh god, who was the I can't even remember the
Speaker 1: one guy's name. Another scumbag, Oh, Larry Summers, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't even think. It's just there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: people in there, a bunch of women, some with Gilay,
Speaker 1: you know, weird pictures of this and that, And it's
Speaker 1: just like Jeffrey Epstein's whole photo history in a folder.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's a whole photo history,
Speaker 1: but it might as well be. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: people do you know take thirty thousand pictures? You know,
Speaker 1: and you know they're not going to release anything like
Speaker 1: explicit or any of that nonsense, right, I don't know.
Speaker 3: The ones I saw on the net today it was all, oh, look,
Speaker 3: here's Trump and Trump and Trump.
Speaker 1: And I'm sittingre going.
Speaker 3: You know, this thing has been bounced around now since
Speaker 3: the early two thousands, let's say two thousand and seven,
Speaker 3: so what eighteen years they've been going through this crap,
Speaker 3: and they've been trying to peg Trump and I got
Speaker 3: a feeling it just ain't gonna work. But that's not
Speaker 3: gonna stop him from keep throwing all this Trump and Epstein,
Speaker 3: Trump and Epstein, Trump and Epstein. You know, the interesting
Speaker 3: one you mentioned is Woody Allen. I wonder if he
Speaker 3: taught Epstein that there's, you know, an easier way not
Speaker 3: to get caught.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and off under.
Speaker 3: Agers, you get divorced, and then you pay your wife
Speaker 3: to adopt all these kids and you just pick the
Speaker 3: one you want.
Speaker 2: Well that's how well Allen does it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one way to go. I'm surprised you see
Speaker 1: it as a Trump thing, because I thought all they
Speaker 1: put out in public was like three Trump pictures, one
Speaker 1: big giant Bill Clinton picture, and then there was I
Speaker 1: think in public there's even some of these other like
Speaker 1: cabinet secretary people. Like I said, I barely paid attention
Speaker 1: to it because I started looking at my own collection,
Speaker 1: and my own collection is maddening because, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's lots of furniture and paintings and weird stuff and
Speaker 1: you know doorways. I mean, it's like surveillance photos, like
Speaker 1: let's see if we can photo the whole crime scene.
Speaker 1: But apparently these came from his estate and I got
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I got the whole document dump
Speaker 1: on this and maybe everybody else didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird because I saw, you know, they
Speaker 1: were like something like seventeen.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, I'm sure it's you know,
Speaker 3: a collection of photos over the years, and you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of those could be simply you know, pictures
Speaker 3: of lamps and desks and things like that, could have
Speaker 3: been simply photos to have on hand to get to
Speaker 3: your insurance agent if you have a fire.
Speaker 2: Or a fat you know, yeah, that could be. That
Speaker 2: could explain a lot of those.
Speaker 1: Well there's that. Plus there's weird you know. Look, there's
Speaker 1: photographs within the photographs, by the way, because this guy
Speaker 1: displayed a lot of photographs around his house, So I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot to analyze here if you want
Speaker 1: to get into it. And he's also got pictures of
Speaker 1: himself in a lot of places, you know, like obviously
Speaker 1: posed pictures in some cases some are like what they
Speaker 1: used to call candid shots. These are not professionally taken
Speaker 1: most of the photos. I can tell you that much.
Speaker 1: And the other weird thing is that I noticed in
Speaker 1: the in the media releases that these things aren't even
Speaker 1: just the direct photographs in some cases some of these
Speaker 1: media releases, which I find strange already, did you happen
Speaker 1: to notice that there's a flash on like, in other words,
Speaker 1: it's a photo of a photo. Okay, So I see
Speaker 1: flashes on top of glossy, I see additional flashes on
Speaker 1: top of digital This is all kinds of crap. And
Speaker 1: by the way, somebody's already asserting that, you know, well,
Speaker 1: the Epstein files have been tampered with, no kidding? Uh
Speaker 1: really tell me? You know it's the sun's gonna come
Speaker 1: up tomorrow, you know, And I don't care which side
Speaker 1: of the political aisle you're allegedly on. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: They're gonna tamper with this sucker, that the files are
Speaker 1: tampered with. That's like saying I happen to have been
Speaker 1: born with two testicles. I mean, you know you honestly
Speaker 1: think they.
Speaker 5: Tampered with?
Speaker 1: Yes, guaranteed, best laugh I've had. You don't think this
Speaker 1: stuff was tampered with at all? You don't think it's
Speaker 1: been seriously edited before anything ever hit anywhere?
Speaker 3: It just kills No, No, I laughed, No, I laugh
Speaker 3: because are you laughing at have been handled.
Speaker 6: Even though they came from even though even though they
Speaker 6: came from the Epstein estate. Even those people manipulated these files,
Speaker 6: are they then they've got to be the most manipulated
Speaker 6: files that have ever.
Speaker 3: Been produced and put out in the public.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I are in perfect agreement.
Speaker 2: I mean between.
Speaker 1: You and I are a perfect agreement. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that was the funniest thing. Tell me, that's not the
Speaker 1: funniest thing, though. That was a good laugh that these
Speaker 1: people were like and they may have been tampered with.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, really.
Speaker 2: You think.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, that's hilarious. It really is. So
Speaker 1: I found it hilarious.
Speaker 3: What's really gonna be the what's really going to be
Speaker 3: the big fix, though, is down the road, somebody's gonna
Speaker 3: die and their estate is going to find a trope
Speaker 3: of pictures and stuff and then we.
Speaker 2: Might find out what the real deal is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to.
Speaker 2: Take something down the road.
Speaker 3: I mean, this whole Epstein saga has been trampled over,
Speaker 3: folded of drug, through the mud, rinsed off, dried out,
Speaker 3: flip back up for display so many times in the
Speaker 3: past twenty years. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And there's no telling what motive anybody had at any
Speaker 1: point in time for covering up any number of things.
Speaker 1: So if you think that you're going to get some
Speaker 1: like you know, lightning in a bottle out of this,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at these photographs and I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: like I said, when I saw released to the media.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's like, you know, it's like some
Speaker 1: of I hate to do this, but it's like some
Speaker 1: of Bob Groden' stuff where you know, it's a photo
Speaker 1: of a photo. Come on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not the photo. You get it. There is a difference,
Speaker 1: And okay, we wouldn't have gotten to see it otherwise.
Speaker 1: I get that part. But dude, you know, once you're
Speaker 1: taking photos and photos and you're taking digital copies and
Speaker 1: cutting things off, I mean, you know, come on, this
Speaker 1: stuff is a n mess.
Speaker 3: That's like, it's like Jim Fetzer taking a copy of
Speaker 3: a birth certificate off the Internet and then claiming that
Speaker 3: it's fake. No shit, Sherlock. You just took it off
Speaker 3: the internet. There's no way to prove it's validity, but
Speaker 3: you swear by it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did that with me on his show,
Speaker 1: you know that right on The Real Did you ever
Speaker 1: listen to that episode of the Real Deal I did
Speaker 1: with him?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And he goes, yeah, as short as it.
Speaker 1: Was, And he starts saying on me and goes, do
Speaker 1: you see this picture? Do you see these things in
Speaker 1: these photos? And I went, hold on, Jim, let me
Speaker 1: I can't see it. No, but I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I'll do. I'll take out my copy and let me
Speaker 1: see if I can, you know, match it up to
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I'll tell you where mine came from.
Speaker 1: And I told him, and then I said, where'd yours
Speaker 1: come from? You remember what he said? He got it
Speaker 1: off of mcadam's website. Like, Jim, so you have a
Speaker 1: digital representation of something that nobody would ever accept as
Speaker 1: a piece of evidence for you to even begin to examine.
Speaker 1: You know that, right? I mean, like I tried to
Speaker 1: be polite about it, but he was like, no, you
Speaker 1: don't see there's a black man coming out of the
Speaker 1: side of the building because of the photo manipulation. I'm like, Jim, you,
Speaker 1: how do I explain to this guy? You can't even
Speaker 1: make a claim like that. It's like going, I saw
Speaker 1: this a Bruder film, so I know where all the
Speaker 1: blood went. No, you don't. You got no idea. That
Speaker 1: is not enough that I mean, uh, you know, you
Speaker 1: can't be an eyewitness and say you saw this a
Speaker 1: Bruder film. It just doesn't work, you know, Like there, uh,
Speaker 1: all right, anyway, I just found it funny that these
Speaker 1: photos are like clearly like just a bunch of shlock.
Speaker 1: And of course the media pulled up, you know, three
Speaker 1: pictures of Trump and uh, I think they got Woody
Speaker 1: Allen out there, didn't they? Or or was it I
Speaker 1: know there was.
Speaker 3: The group I saw had to picture of the Trump
Speaker 3: condoms for four the novelty condoms.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know the condoms I'm huge, Well,
Speaker 1: those are the ones that were ribbed, right, the condoms.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing the picture, but it was in the
Speaker 3: description of what I was supposed.
Speaker 2: To be looking at. Anyway, it's you know, you know
Speaker 2: health departments I want to start doing.
Speaker 3: That's just whoever's mayor at the time have their face
Speaker 3: put on the condoms that they give out at the
Speaker 3: health department for free, by the way, not four ninety five.
Speaker 3: You get novelty condoms for free at your local health department.
Speaker 2: Trust me.
Speaker 3: Usually Minnesota, they're right next to the tampon De Spencer's
Speaker 3: in the boys rooms.
Speaker 1: God help us. All I mean, if people think they're
Speaker 1: going to get some truth out of these photos, I
Speaker 1: mean they're sadly mistaken, but I just I could not
Speaker 1: complete a full you know, a full look at all
Speaker 1: this stuff in a day. There's no way, you know, not.
Speaker 2: Even two thousand.
Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder if you could set up a
Speaker 3: scamming pro well, I don't know, feet him into AI
Speaker 3: or to Groc.
Speaker 2: She spend the file to Groc and let them see
Speaker 2: if they pull anything out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but I would probably have to ask for specifics.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a note of this though, I
Speaker 1: will feed it to Grock and see what it does
Speaker 1: with it. I wonder if you'll find Elon Muskin there.
Speaker 2: Because they would, well see, I don't see.
Speaker 1: That's the funny thing about this. I don't even know
Speaker 1: the full I know what some of the dates are
Speaker 1: on the photos, but I don't know what the full
Speaker 1: range is like, you know what I mean, Like when
Speaker 1: did he start collecting the photos? And when did he
Speaker 1: I don't know when he stopped either, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: this could be a laptop that was left behind a
Speaker 1: while ago for all I know, because some of this
Speaker 1: stuff is from the nineties and it could be saved
Speaker 1: or copied or transferred over. I don't know. I would
Speaker 1: have to check the metadata, you know, And that's the thing,
Speaker 1: the metadata on what the copy I have here, we go,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like, uh.
Speaker 3: So, well, I mean, let's look at it this way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: suppose these all came from the Epstein, a state family,
Speaker 3: a state Okay, right, you know, good and well, the
Speaker 3: executor of that estate went through and pulled out everything
Speaker 3: that they didn't want seen before they ever offered the
Speaker 3: file of photos up. So for people to think that
Speaker 3: they're going to get something out of these photos is
Speaker 3: beyond me. I mean, they're not going to put evidence
Speaker 3: of felonies in that out there for the public and say,
Speaker 3: oh well, because then how many lawsuits against the estate
Speaker 3: are you going to see?
Speaker 2: So yeah, but which gets me about all.
Speaker 3: These victims are they not Why are they not going
Speaker 3: after the estate for the millions that he's supposedly.
Speaker 1: Well they have there's separate lawsuits going on. See nobody
Speaker 1: tells you this. There's one in the Virgin Islands, right,
Speaker 1: and then there's something going on here. But his brother
Speaker 1: is still after the evidence on his death. By the way,
Speaker 1: his brother keeps making appearances on our podcasts. Have you
Speaker 1: seen that?
Speaker 3: Oh well, he's not been paying attention to candas Owens
Speaker 3: because Kandas got it all figured out.
Speaker 2: The Macromes did it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I also figured out that in her latest I don't
Speaker 3: know if you saw my update, but you know, she
Speaker 3: said there was a plot to assassinate her and it
Speaker 3: involved a frenchman or a French person and Israeli and
Speaker 3: one of them was male. And now she's tied Macrone
Speaker 3: into a Bridget Macron into it. So I figure since
Speaker 3: she claims that Bridget is actually a man, then maybe
Speaker 3: Bridget was the assassin and would be both the female
Speaker 3: and male circumcised individual that's out to kill her.
Speaker 1: Simple Okay. Now, there is a lot of wild stuff
Speaker 1: going on in like right wing media civil war land
Speaker 1: because Tim Poole claimed he got his house shot up
Speaker 1: and the local cops won't verify it. Then it even happened, right,
Speaker 1: you know about Tim Poole and that old thing. Do
Speaker 1: you hear about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I saw something on YouTube about the sheriff made some
Speaker 3: statement or something, but I don't know. I didn't watch
Speaker 3: it to see what the sheriff's statement was. So apparently
Speaker 3: they're not they're not able to confirm that it happened.
Speaker 2: That finding bullet holes.
Speaker 1: The sheriff didn't give as many details as I thought
Speaker 1: he would, but from what I understood, they were just
Speaker 1: basically saying, we can't verify whether this happened or not. Period.
Speaker 1: So you know, you have Tim Poole's word out there,
Speaker 1: you have all these what the hell there we go,
Speaker 1: We have all these alleged assassination plots against people. Right,
Speaker 1: Nick Fowynns is out there having Pierce Morgan's daughter's harassed.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I saw that, you know.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 3: I'd be kind of embarrassed to go on Pierce Morgan
Speaker 3: and admit that I'm as old as he is and
Speaker 3: I've never had sex with a woman, and I don't
Speaker 3: really like women because women are hard to be around.
Speaker 2: But he's not gay, you know, like that's the thank
Speaker 2: God moment.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to say. It
Speaker 1: gets very confusing because the whole thing he got mad
Speaker 1: because I guess Pierce Morgan said, well, you said on
Speaker 1: your show that your father wouldn't allow you to go
Speaker 1: to restaurants that had anything to do with black people.
Speaker 1: So you couldn't go to Red Lobster, and you couldn't
Speaker 1: go to places that had to do with black people,
Speaker 1: So isn't he racist? And Fwind has got like all
Speaker 1: pearl clutching about it. But dare you're talking about my father?
Speaker 1: He's not here to defend himself. I guess I'll defend him. Uh,
Speaker 1: And this is the he chooses to defend him. Why
Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and threaten Pierce Morgan's thirteen year
Speaker 1: old daughter? What the hell is wrong with people? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But that's well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You think about the people that have been you think
Speaker 3: about the people that have been platformed here lately on
Speaker 3: a lot of these podcasts and that, and you you
Speaker 3: just wonder, what the hell do people spend their day
Speaker 3: listening to?
Speaker 2: I mean, how don't understand.
Speaker 3: I can understand people listening to Canvas because they want
Speaker 3: to hear the next most insane crack that's going to.
Speaker 2: Come out of her mouth. But some of these other people.
Speaker 3: Nick Clintis was nothing a few years ago, and now
Speaker 3: look at him.
Speaker 2: He's everywhere, He's everyone. We got to get Nick Clintons.
Speaker 2: Fuck Nick Quinis.
Speaker 3: I mean, if that's what you that's entertainment to you
Speaker 3: and what you want to put on your podcast, More
Speaker 3: power to you. Pierce Morgan has been an idiot for years,
Speaker 3: so I mean he had he had who wasn't he
Speaker 3: had waiting in the wings on the episode when he
Speaker 3: had Judah very Baker on, and I'll tell you a
Speaker 3: lot about Pierce Moore right there, he's.
Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, that was sad because they had Larry
Speaker 1: Hancock run to a satellite truck no lie, and and
Speaker 1: like he had to actually drive to the satellite truck
Speaker 1: which has left his house sat there waiting to get on.
Speaker 1: The show never got on because of Judy Baker and
Speaker 1: they were talking to Jack One.
Speaker 3: I mean, here he has a chance to have one
Speaker 3: of the most knowledgeable people on the subject on his show.
Speaker 3: That would have given him a little bit more credibility
Speaker 3: being Pierce Morgan, and he puts Judith very Baker on.
Speaker 1: My god, Yeah, it makes you question though, because what's
Speaker 1: his name? Gets on there all the time, right though?
Speaker 1: You know Morley and here we go. You know, these
Speaker 1: guys trying to make a big thing out of out
Speaker 1: of what that oh god, that that you know Oversight
Speaker 1: Committee is doing. And it's like, look, unless they're going
Speaker 1: to score some political points, they're not looking to help you.
Speaker 1: They got other things to deal with, Okay, and these
Speaker 1: guys like, oh, look at all the progress were making. Really,
Speaker 1: how much progress do you think we made here? I mean,
Speaker 1: Morley finally got part of a file he's been asking
Speaker 1: for for twenty years. But other than that, what progress
Speaker 1: did we really get out of this? Seriously? Right? I
Speaker 1: mean anyway, I just I've grown at this point. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just I don't. I don't understand. Look at Candace.
Speaker 1: I get it, she's at least entertaining. She is entertaining
Speaker 1: because you're right, I don't know what like bat crap
Speaker 1: thing is gonna come out next, you know, like what
Speaker 1: insane you know scenario? Is she about to lay out
Speaker 1: that her people are gonna believe? I mean it's wild.
Speaker 1: You know. What's even better than the Candace Owen Show, actually, though,
Speaker 1: is watching other like let's call them afrocentric commentators go
Speaker 1: after her and her stuff. It is the most hilarious
Speaker 1: thing to watch that.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I can understand cod Canvas's rise to the fame. I mean,
Speaker 3: she was the token conservative that everybody wanted to go
Speaker 3: to at one time. But you know, you look at
Speaker 3: her track records she left. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: circumstances were when she left Turning Point, but she left
Speaker 3: Braker use she got fired from the Daily Wire. I mean,
Speaker 3: she's not got the most stand up record behind her,
Speaker 3: and she's gone from platforming the conservative talking points to
Speaker 3: now she's the fetser of the political world right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, she is.
Speaker 7: Pulling a classic fetchery moves once she started on this craft,
Speaker 7: and it all started with Bridget McCrone being a guy,
Speaker 7: and now it has convoluted itself over three months into
Speaker 7: the most asinine bullshit I have ever heard.
Speaker 2: I mean, Fetzer was good.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if he could take lessons and maybe your
Speaker 3: resurrect his career because she is pulling every fetcher and
Speaker 3: move in the damn book, every single one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she has the same steam. See.
Speaker 1: That was the weird thing about when I had him
Speaker 1: on the show in like, I forget what it was,
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, whatever, twenty fifteen, I don't know,
Speaker 1: many years ago when it was like I let my
Speaker 1: producer book the JFK guests and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you did this. But okay, let's try
Speaker 1: it right. And it was gonna be me and Carmine
Speaker 1: co hosting the JFK spasual with these other people, and
Speaker 1: Fetzer gets on and he starts on his role and
Speaker 1: it was about to go twenty minutes if we didn't
Speaker 1: stop him. And it was like, wait, well, let's start
Speaker 1: with one question about what you're what you're saying, you know,
Speaker 1: And he didn't like that at all. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you didn't let me get through my routine. Yeah, bastard,
Speaker 1: you know. And then he's yelling at us. We got
Speaker 1: our heads up, our asses and all this stuff. And
Speaker 1: what was weird to me is the guy knows who
Speaker 1: I am, and every time I would meet him again,
Speaker 1: he would act like he didn't know who I was.
Speaker 1: And I know it's not dementia because he could not
Speaker 1: keep this stuff straight. You know, I've seen way too
Speaker 1: many cases now of dementia from people who had a
Speaker 1: routine in this area, let's say, And unfortunately it's a
Speaker 1: growing number of these. You know. It seems like they're
Speaker 1: all falling to dementia honestly and getting to be angry
Speaker 1: when they get old. That's not him, not him A
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Anyway, I don't know if eventually
Speaker 1: it'll go that way, but he's just I can't explain him.
Speaker 1: He's a phenomena onto himself. But you're right, she is
Speaker 1: like the Jim Fetzer of the right wing movement at
Speaker 1: this point, which is too funny because again Fuentes, who
Speaker 1: everybody's taken seriously Now, thanks Tucker Carlson. I told you
Speaker 1: that guy was a jerk. Tucker Carlson is doing nobody
Speaker 1: any favors, by the way, by platforming this guy. And
Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, everybody wants to talk to Flintes.
Speaker 1: He was an outsider. You know that that Trump acknowledged
Speaker 1: for a second, and then Trump has ignored him. What
Speaker 1: does that tell you? Trump has ignored this guy for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, okay, which you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: thanks for the help, bye, you know, thanks for getting
Speaker 1: me elected, but you you're too much. He's too much
Speaker 1: for the Trump crazy you know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't. But he's yelling at her,
Speaker 1: really trying.
Speaker 3: I'm finding it hard to consider Canvas still a conservative,
Speaker 3: certainly not a Republican. Well, but here's the thing, Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: Tucker's done the same flip.
Speaker 3: I don't think Tucker can be considered a conservative just
Speaker 3: based off the past few months over rhetor.
Speaker 1: What are they see? That's the thing. If they're not,
Speaker 1: they're definitely not Democrats, they're freaks. Okay, well there's a
Speaker 1: plaid answer. We got a caller, and uh, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to have fun with this tonight. So far, I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to get into a media discussion, but what the hell?
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm looking at this Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: photos and thinking of where it's gonna go. I also
Speaker 1: took a quick look at what don Lemon. You know,
Speaker 1: he's doing his Lemon drops out there.
Speaker 2: Just change subjects.
Speaker 1: Successful YouTuber anyways, you know, And and I cautioned people
Speaker 1: if you see what's successful on YouTube at this point
Speaker 1: between the Ais and uh, the these other again freaks
Speaker 1: that are in different circuses. You know, it's like the
Speaker 1: competing circuses and they're all coming to your town if
Speaker 1: you click on them. All right, anyways, I believe this
Speaker 1: is our friend in California. And how you doing? Man?
Speaker 5: More imp how you doing?
Speaker 1: I am trying to survive, brother, I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you heard last week, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to share details of anything until investigations are complete, and
Speaker 1: they are moving slowly, and I've got I've got some
Speaker 1: injuries that I'm trying to deal with and I'm not
Speaker 1: even sharing all that. But that's now involved doctors and
Speaker 1: ubers and go betweens and scanning centers and all kinds
Speaker 1: of things. So it's getting messy. Let me just put
Speaker 1: it that way. And sanity is something I'm trying to
Speaker 1: hold on to here, and I did one podcast this week.
Speaker 1: I'm very slowed down. I apologize to anybody who's not
Speaker 1: getting the material out of this they want, but I'm
Speaker 1: doing the best I can and still showing up with
Speaker 1: my partner here on Fridays to take your calls. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind this week?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: Outside of that, you know, unless you want to talk
Speaker 1: a little more about it, but like I said, not
Speaker 1: too many details about that or frankly, the disaster called Answer.
Speaker 1: I don't want to discuss either one currently until things
Speaker 1: are somewhat you know, on record in different places about
Speaker 1: things because it's not good. A lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of not good things have occurred here even before I
Speaker 1: got damaged. But we'll leave it at that for now.
Speaker 1: So what else you got or if you got any
Speaker 1: other questions? Obviously I'll answer the best I can.
Speaker 5: Well, I do have, so I do have a few questions.
Speaker 5: I'll try to be Yeah, I'm getting this feedback, so
Speaker 5: I'm trying to and I'm not on speaker, so I
Speaker 5: don't know what's going on. So just to let you know.
Speaker 1: On your end, Yeah, you might you might be a
Speaker 1: little loud. You might be a little loud. Let me
Speaker 1: try and turn you down a touch, and maybe that'll
Speaker 1: help with the feedback issue. I'm sorry about that, uh
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just didn't come cross over. Yeah I was.
Speaker 5: I've been incredibly busy, and then I was able to
Speaker 5: go to Chili Tan. I I downloaded. I haven't watched
Speaker 5: the conference, so so check it out when I if
Speaker 5: I get gets some free time here. I figured it's
Speaker 5: going to take me a while to to watch it
Speaker 5: and digest it. But yeah, I didn't sound like it
Speaker 5: went very well. Your your trip and then on your
Speaker 5: way back with Max and I'm glad you're you're you're,
Speaker 5: you're you're back here. But yeah, then I also heard
Speaker 5: about you know that. Even though I never got a
Speaker 5: chance to talk to Vance, I did hear him for
Speaker 5: a number of years as a listener and spent kent
Speaker 5: my condolences. I hope they rest in peace. Sorry to
Speaker 5: hear their passing, But it seems like as I'm growing older,
Speaker 5: the more the more I hear passings instead of as
Speaker 5: we were younger, it was like celebrating birth days. But yeah,
Speaker 5: but I also heard something with all your work that
Speaker 5: you talked about it one day, encourage. You talked about
Speaker 5: your work with the JFK research. And I'm not a
Speaker 5: serious researcher. I'm kind of like curious, always looking on
Speaker 5: the outside reading, too busy to really indulge myself. But
Speaker 5: I've learned a lot from you, and you got a
Speaker 5: lot of value to share. But all I know is,
Speaker 5: like with any type of group or activity, we're big
Speaker 5: and small. From growing up in a real small community,
Speaker 5: there's always like alliances. Somebody always wants to like stick
Speaker 5: their finger in your oat meal, you know, to just
Speaker 5: mess things up. I don't know what it is. People
Speaker 5: just like to live off of drama. And I found
Speaker 5: that in from competing volunteer fire departments to childhoods, sports
Speaker 5: activities and amazing you know, if you want to go.
Speaker 5: You know, even in church communities, you think what's going
Speaker 5: on your local parish going you find out that the
Speaker 5: Presbyterian's got a problem down the road, and then there's
Speaker 5: there's an argument here, and then there's splitting up and
Speaker 5: making another church.
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, so well, let me let me give
Speaker 1: you this insight. Let me give you this insight, brother,
Speaker 1: which is very gen It's gonna sound very general, but
Speaker 1: believe me, it's very specific. There are, and have been
Speaker 1: for three decades in my experience, cliques that form, you know,
Speaker 1: some people call them clicks, but you know click, okay, yep, uh,
Speaker 1: and they form based on the greatest magnetic ego usually uh.
Speaker 1: And it becomes a thing where, you know, what people
Speaker 1: in any sort of occupation, whether it's hobby or it's
Speaker 1: you know, a way to make a living, or it's
Speaker 1: a little of bow in any anything in life. I mean,
Speaker 1: I even played in magic, the gathering tournaments, right, and
Speaker 1: there were grown people or seemingly grown people that were
Speaker 1: well involved in it to the point of you know, strangeness,
Speaker 1: and they had their little groups. Even then you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And it doesn't matter how you come
Speaker 1: in or whatever else. But the weird thing is I
Speaker 1: never formed a clique. I was always the outsider guy.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, no matter how I served or
Speaker 1: helped or did for anybody, there is I can count
Speaker 1: on one hand the people that were honorable or decent
Speaker 1: about that. And I never asked for credit. I never
Speaker 1: asked for money. I mean I did ask for expenses
Speaker 1: on occasion when you're gonna send me somewhere. If I
Speaker 1: got to go out to the middle of nowhere and
Speaker 1: get on a federal prisons, you know, visiting in order
Speaker 1: to talk to the criminal that you want an interview with, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay my travel expenses. But aside from that,
Speaker 1: I never asked for, like, you know, pay for my time.
Speaker 1: I gave tapes, I gave transcripts, I gave notes, I
Speaker 1: gave documents, I gave video footage. I gave things to
Speaker 1: people all the time, and not a drop of it
Speaker 1: has ever been appreciated, Not even since I went into
Speaker 1: podcast land and started doing this, you know, in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys have emerged. There used to be
Speaker 1: one podcast for the JFK stuff. Really Now there are
Speaker 1: several and even among them, even those that I thought
Speaker 1: were good at it and I was supportive of and
Speaker 1: everything else, there is only one guy that actually responds
Speaker 1: to me at this point when I send a message
Speaker 1: most of the time. And I tried to play it like, look,
Speaker 1: we're all part of the same thing. We're all after
Speaker 1: the same thing, even if we're going at it from
Speaker 1: different angles. And that cooperative spirit of mine was really
Speaker 1: poorly misplaced, because I am just to be disregarded and
Speaker 1: that's the way it is, and that's the way it's
Speaker 1: always been. And I got to say, I was okay
Speaker 1: with it for a long time, but I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get angry, especially when I see people they're not as capable,
Speaker 1: not as knowledgeable, haven't done the work, and are now
Speaker 1: getting rewarded in certain ways. And what can I say,
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things about this that have now
Speaker 1: changed due to the technology, the availability to be able
Speaker 1: to do this stuff. And you know what, some of
Speaker 1: these guys are just downright nasty and dismissive to me
Speaker 1: for no reason, you know, And it's a little it's
Speaker 1: a little annoying, especially when, like I said, I see
Speaker 1: where people really are at I can evaluate where their
Speaker 1: level of knowledge is. Some people are knowledgeable, but it
Speaker 1: is a slim number. And I'm telling you decent human
Speaker 1: beings that I've encountered here in that community I consider
Speaker 1: part of that community. I can literally count on one hand.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this out front. Larry Hancock is not
Speaker 1: just a knowledgeable individual, you know, who's written many books
Speaker 1: and is a scholar and is a historian regardless of
Speaker 1: what his training is. But he's also a decent human
Speaker 1: being and not somebody who is unappreciative of other people's work,
Speaker 1: even when it is beneath him. Okay, And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you he has been cooperative and kind to people that
Speaker 1: I don't even know why he did it, frankly, and
Speaker 1: I probably would have never gotten a second of recognition
Speaker 1: with anybody had it not been for the fact that
Speaker 1: Larry advocated for me at certain points here. So you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't just say that because he advocated for me.
Speaker 1: I say that because in his actions in his day,
Speaker 1: I know things about his daily life that let me
Speaker 1: know that this is a decent human being all the
Speaker 1: way around. If he never wrote a word on the subject,
Speaker 1: and I can't say that about the majority of people
Speaker 1: that I've encountered here in this community for thirty five years,
Speaker 1: you know. And again not just because he's on my show,
Speaker 1: not you know, lots of people have been on plenty
Speaker 1: of times. Some people are nice, some people are not.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it, even if they're rude to me.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, when I've been a helping hand
Speaker 1: and I get nothing but silence when there are problems,
Speaker 1: either within the community or personally, I know who I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with, and I don't expect everybody to be my friend.
Speaker 1: I don't expect everybody to agree with me. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a co host here on Friday night. Him
Speaker 1: and I don't agree on much.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's it's obvious, but here's you guys are both
Speaker 5: fine with it.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I know that this guy's my friend, okay,
Speaker 1: and so I'll sit here and argue with him. We'll
Speaker 1: even call each other name sometimes, and he's hung up
Speaker 1: on me, believe me a whole bit. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I also know he's my friend, and I don't have
Speaker 1: too many of those I really don't like. I know
Speaker 1: that you're a guy who gives a crap about me too,
Speaker 1: because you'll actually ask what's happening when things are you know, problematic.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna explain anything else about this. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say that I realized really really quickly that I
Speaker 1: went from thinking that I had many people who would, like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe care about anything that I do, and
Speaker 1: I realized that that number is way way smaller than
Speaker 1: I ever imagined. And that's why it's especially sad for
Speaker 1: me that, you know, guys like Kent and Vance are gone,
Speaker 1: because those were two real people. You know. Kent was
Speaker 1: a little annoying and he did his thing his way,
Speaker 1: but he was a good guy, and Vance was an
Speaker 1: extremely good guy. But you know, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: something else. I'm a little bit Jimmy brought it up
Speaker 1: last week. You know, I don't know what happened to
Speaker 1: Chris Graves, by the way, because he was on the
Speaker 1: show to one night before I went, and he had
Speaker 1: all these statements, and I had conversations with him after
Speaker 1: the show and this and that, and now he's not
Speaker 1: responded to any of my h you know, inquiries, messages, nothing,
Speaker 1: So I don't know where Chris is at I tried
Speaker 1: not to even be judgmental, even though the guy kind
Speaker 1: of went after me online and all kinds of stuff before.
Speaker 1: You know, he's apologized to me privately since. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened to him. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's gone now, you know. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: him and I were close friends. It's just here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm watching people drop, and I'm watching people that I
Speaker 1: thought were there. It's an illusion. Maybe it's just me,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's just me having a hard realization.
Speaker 1: But it's it starts becoming. It starts bringing down your
Speaker 1: motivation to keep on doing like I'm doing this literally
Speaker 1: for like six of you at this point. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean That that that's where I'm at right
Speaker 1: that that's how I am in my head, and my
Speaker 1: numbers have fallen of off. And people that could have
Speaker 1: helped with that, didn't you know, people that could have
Speaker 1: you know, lent the hand, no matter what it is
Speaker 1: I did for them in the past, didn't I know
Speaker 1: where they're at. I know other people also wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure I wasn't going to starve when I was
Speaker 1: stuck in Mississippi. I know, that other people would have
Speaker 1: made other offers, that I made other phone calls, but
Speaker 1: I didn't have a phone. You know, what can I say?
Speaker 1: So you know, here we go. I I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get into it too deep like this because it
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm just being a self centered douche. But
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard, harder and harder lessons. It does
Speaker 1: remind me of when I was homeless, And honestly, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen videos lately. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: these online either. Maybe we could talk about this. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that go around and they do
Speaker 1: these good deed things with homeless people, and they do
Speaker 1: it for video. One guy's in New York. I think
Speaker 1: he hands out like five hundred dollars to these guys
Speaker 1: when he finds them. But he usually comes up to
Speaker 1: him and says, I'm gonna be late for work, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lose my job. I need a dollar for the
Speaker 1: train whatever, And a homeless guy will turn around and
Speaker 1: give him a dollar, you know, so he can get
Speaker 1: so he can get on the train. And the guy's like, well,
Speaker 1: don't you need this to eat? And the guy's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need it more than I do. And when the
Speaker 1: guy does that, he hands them five hundred bucks. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how real that is, but I got
Speaker 1: to tell you that's a world that I never saw
Speaker 1: when I had nothing cause being a single guy out there,
Speaker 1: you know, the general public attitude is, you know, disappear
Speaker 1: and die. So you know, I'm starting to learn that
Speaker 1: in a spiritual sense, we're all really homeless outside of
Speaker 1: the little relationships that we try and build with our
Speaker 1: with our families, and you know, like and I mean
Speaker 1: with our children, with our with our spouses, with our friends.
Speaker 1: We try and build these little worlds. And here's the
Speaker 1: bad thing. Sometimes we have the illusion that those things
Speaker 1: are real until real trouble comes along. And sadly, I
Speaker 1: think the majority of us are really way more isolated
Speaker 1: than we realize, because that isn't the way it necessarily
Speaker 1: used to work. Unless you fell into a position where, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were homeless, and all of a sudden you went
Speaker 1: from friends who would let you crash on their couch
Speaker 1: when you didn't need a place to go, but would
Speaker 1: turn their back on you when you did. And I
Speaker 1: experienced that. I fought back out of that, but it
Speaker 1: just feels to me like this is really the world
Speaker 1: we're living in, and this is not the way that
Speaker 1: the human family should behave. I don't know how else
Speaker 1: to articulate that. I don't know if I'm even making sense.
Speaker 1: I'm really in a lot of pain. I didn't take
Speaker 1: muscle relaxes before tonight. But this is what's on my
Speaker 1: mind lately, as I'm sitting here in pain, trying to
Speaker 1: trying to get around the house and walking around like
Speaker 1: a like a broken toddler. I can barely make it
Speaker 1: from one side of a room to another. And I
Speaker 1: need help. I need help getting out of bed. There's
Speaker 1: a whole thing going on here, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: down in here. My left ear is shot. It's it's
Speaker 1: just reminding me more and more that we're all much
Speaker 1: more alone than we need to be, and this isn't right.
Speaker 1: And and I'll tell you something, if I could do
Speaker 1: anything with the rest of the time I have, is
Speaker 1: I would love to see a way to change that tide.
Speaker 1: I'd love to be able to use what it is
Speaker 1: I do to change the tide, to broadcast that, to
Speaker 1: encourage it, to start to change that, just to leave
Speaker 1: this place in a slightly better condition than the way
Speaker 1: I found it, because I got to tell you, I
Speaker 1: feel like strangers used to be strange in their kindness
Speaker 1: to you earlier on in life than they are now.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened, even though I lived in a very
Speaker 1: tough circumstance and I was certainly an ignored child, an
Speaker 1: ignored you know, person at different points in my life.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say I was part of the
Speaker 1: invisible part of America. But I think we're all becoming
Speaker 1: less than visible to each other more and more. And
Speaker 1: you know what, screw the political divides, screw the differences.
Speaker 1: And you know you want to pray to this, pray
Speaker 1: to that. You don't want to pray you got you know,
Speaker 1: you got this much, you don't have that much. You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take none of it with you. You know, there's
Speaker 1: got to be a better way for us to even
Speaker 1: be here, you know, because otherwise this is becoming quite pointless.
Speaker 1: And you know what, why the hell not give into
Speaker 1: the technocracy, load your brain into the machine and say
Speaker 1: to hell with it, because you know, obviously times pick
Speaker 1: of the year, you know, a Person of the Year
Speaker 1: is all the people that are giving you the AI,
Speaker 1: which is so great and grand. Yeah, well, you're gonna
Speaker 1: need something because you know, and clearly it's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be as soul as as that is at this point,
Speaker 1: because most people are. I'm starting to agree with the
Speaker 1: people I used to get annoyed with. That said, you
Speaker 1: know that most of what you see out there are NPCs,
Speaker 1: which you know, in short for those of us that
Speaker 1: are a little older, is non player characters. You're an
Speaker 1: NPC because you really don't have a soul. You just
Speaker 1: have a pattern that you work off of, like in
Speaker 1: a video game, where you know, if you walk up
Speaker 1: to this guy, you'll turn around, you'll say the same
Speaker 1: phrase because he doesn't actually have a thought or anything.
Speaker 1: He's just a representative of what a person could be
Speaker 1: and what they could say. They're not real and most
Speaker 1: people are not fucking real. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: It's just this is where my head is actually at, man,
Speaker 1: And I didn't mean to lay all that on you,
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like it's just getting to me
Speaker 1: that is that this is what I'm confronted with, and
Speaker 1: this is what I'm leaving, you know, behind for for
Speaker 1: my offspring. I I'm disgusted beyond belief and uh, and
Speaker 1: I feel responsible and I think everybody should feel responsible
Speaker 1: for this. But anyway, enough of that, I wish I
Speaker 1: could figure out a way to change the tide. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. If anybody's got suggestions, I got,
Speaker 1: I got one open year for you, bring it anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, but you asked a question that touched
Speaker 1: a nerve that lives all the way down that dark path.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but that's you know, one thing. I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna lie to you on here, as best I can.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to lie. I'd rather tell
Speaker 1: you an ugly truth than give you pretty lies. And uh,
Speaker 1: even if I make a mistake, Hell, I make a mistake,
Speaker 1: but he'll be an honest mistake. So anyway, man, I
Speaker 1: I just so that's where my head has been at.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe I'm nuts, and maybe you've
Speaker 1: got something better to talk about. I'll tell you something.
Speaker 1: I saw the South Park Christmas Special. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else did that.
Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, I you know, I am talking about South
Speaker 5: Park and and by the way, Jack, I think if
Speaker 5: I touched a nerve, I I didn't mean to. That
Speaker 5: wasn't my point. I'm just generally generally curious, not in
Speaker 5: a morbid way. But you know, you talked about, you know,
Speaker 5: these people that seem alone or distant or can't connect.
Speaker 5: But you know, as far as I can concerned, I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna sit here and crash Chris Graves, but
Speaker 5: I seriously think that just kind of over here, and
Speaker 5: you know, he's got bigger problems and I'm not sure
Speaker 5: if he's always in his in his in his in
Speaker 5: the right state of mind, if that makes sense. And
Speaker 5: that's if you're out there, Chris, I'm not trashing, but
Speaker 5: it's think it's a reality of what's going on with
Speaker 5: your circumstances. But it was listened to you. It really
Speaker 5: reminded me of something that's kind of hit home with
Speaker 5: what John Steinbeck wrote about. He said, if you, if
Speaker 5: he needs anything, build a poor person. I mean, because
Speaker 5: they don't have anything to give you. But you know,
Speaker 5: it's kind of reminded me of the book of the
Speaker 5: novel Have you ever read The Grapes of Wrath?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, also read The Pearl, yes, and a couple
Speaker 1: other ones. Short there's short books that I read of
Speaker 1: his that I can't remember the titles of. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but that that education is in there always, you know,
Speaker 1: is the idea.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of what you were talking about. You know.
Speaker 1: I've had people show up near me, you know that
Speaker 1: I don't like to advertise. I've taken people in off
Speaker 1: the street into my house, you know, more than once,
Speaker 1: people I didn't know, you know, different reasons, different ways,
Speaker 1: And it's crazy stuff, man. You know. Sometimes it's gotten
Speaker 1: me a little bit of trouble here and there. But
Speaker 1: I can't see leaving somebody adrift out there if I
Speaker 1: see them, you know. And I don't know how it
Speaker 1: is that other people can can can lay their heads
Speaker 1: down at night knowing that that's you know, not only
Speaker 1: is that something they do, but some of them, that's
Speaker 1: literally what they're with. Their whole occupation is designed to do.
Speaker 1: And don't mind that you touch the nerve. It's out there,
Speaker 1: raw man, anything could have touched it. It ain't you.
Speaker 1: It's just where my head is at lately, because you know,
Speaker 1: I get to see it more and more, and I
Speaker 1: think that if you if you do for somebody, if
Speaker 1: you serve them, if you personally try to help them.
Speaker 1: You know, I think to myself, they might not like
Speaker 1: they owe you. It's not like that. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of they should do something for somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I always feel that way when somebody does a
Speaker 1: kind thing for me. I'm always like, you know, what
Speaker 1: I gotta do? Who something for somebody else? And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even survive at this point without you know, the
Speaker 1: few of you that are still with me. You know,
Speaker 1: I would probably just disappear done, you know, off off
Speaker 1: of being online for sure. And you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how how I would do anything at this point
Speaker 1: with the way things have gone lately. But anyway, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a very strange world. And too many
Speaker 1: people are left out of the loop, is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Too many people who are abandoned out there. And then
Speaker 1: you wonder why, you know, people snap, You wonder why
Speaker 1: somebody you know gets them sell a Why is this
Speaker 1: person you know getting high? Why is this you know,
Speaker 1: woman out of your hook and three times a day
Speaker 1: to get her habit together and get a hotel room?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Why? Why? Well you know what, when you're left to
Speaker 1: your own devices and you're told this is your only value,
Speaker 1: it happens, and a lot of things get done that way.
Speaker 1: This is why a lot of people do some of
Speaker 1: the things that people think are so terrible. It's because
Speaker 1: they find that that's the only value they have, you know.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that gets other people killed too, you know.
Speaker 1: It's just it is the cycle that keeps on giving,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's awful. And I know people want
Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, the Christmas season and this
Speaker 1: and that. And I put on my little comedy Christmas
Speaker 1: stuff on the stream by the way. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody noticed, but but I always put my stuff
Speaker 1: up there because no matter what, no matter how dark
Speaker 1: my head goes, I always want to try and push
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, you got to laugh at it.
Speaker 1: You gotta have fun with these things to some degree.
Speaker 1: But it's just hard. Sometimes I don't even know where
Speaker 1: I'm going with all this. So please take it away,
Speaker 1: talk about anything you want, man, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Sure, sure, well you know you were talking about and
Speaker 5: it's and that trusts me. I'm not a big follower,
Speaker 5: but it gets shoved down and when you kind you're
Speaker 5: talking about this Nick Folantes and this Canvas Zuns and
Speaker 5: their drama. You know, the big difference between like I
Speaker 5: enjoy listens to like the Chelli effect, and the difference
Speaker 5: between like some you know, characters like that, I think
Speaker 5: they're almost like creations. Is that your show's really you're
Speaker 5: you're genuine there. I always got a feeling like they're
Speaker 5: they're about themselves. It's their egos and and some of
Speaker 5: the crap thats feel. I don't understand this whole Nick
Speaker 5: Foe's fascination. There's no value of I find in him.
Speaker 5: I can't stand it. And I've heard people on the
Speaker 5: right and the left play clicks and I found that
Speaker 5: he's they found that somebody did some research. He's being
Speaker 5: supported by bots, and I don't even understand how it works.
Speaker 1: There from different from Nigeria, from Nigeria, and Asia is
Speaker 1: where most of his audience is from, which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Take it outside of politics for
Speaker 1: a minute. There are whole subcultures. See again with the cliques,
Speaker 1: there are subcultures here that exist right in the in
Speaker 1: different entertainment businesses. Joe Rogan, there is a Joe Rogan's sphere, okay,
Speaker 1: and he is the preeminent podcaster, right, but he's also
Speaker 1: spawned a whole series of like his little protected comedian friends, okay,
Speaker 1: and most of them are not even funny. The one guy,
Speaker 1: what is his name, Bert Kershner or whatever, has like
Speaker 1: one story that he's told people for years. Nobody even
Speaker 1: knows if it's real. Right where he was in Russia
Speaker 1: somehow and ended up hanging out with like Russian mob
Speaker 1: guys and the only thing that he can say to
Speaker 1: them is I am the machine. And he kept drinking
Speaker 1: like a lunatic and that's his whole claim to fame.
Speaker 1: I swear to God. And then he took another guy
Speaker 1: who was a UFC fighter, got him to quit UFC
Speaker 1: fighting and do stand up. His name's Brandon whatever, and
Speaker 1: he sucks. And honestly, here's the funniest part to me
Speaker 1: is that Joe Rogan's never been funny. Joe Rogan was given,
Speaker 1: you know, a comedic acting role, which he didn't pull
Speaker 1: off too well. Okay, he was given a fear factor
Speaker 1: where he's the host of let's just you know, basically
Speaker 1: do what you know every radio show in the country does.
Speaker 1: Let's get people to do stupid stunts and disgusting things
Speaker 1: for money, you know, and we'll do it on TV.
Speaker 1: So laying this, you know, bucket of worms or eat
Speaker 1: these bull testicles or whatever, and you're right, and it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: he's not funny. And then he puts out a stand
Speaker 1: up thing recently and he's like, I wonder why that bomb,
Speaker 1: cause you suck. You've been given, You've been granted, gifted
Speaker 1: this podcaster thing where he gets all the top level guests,
Speaker 1: anybody in the world he wants. I mean, he sat
Speaker 1: down with presidents, he sat down with Trump, he sat
Speaker 1: down with Musk, he sat down with the biggest stars
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, old timey stars, anybody he wanted, sports stars,
Speaker 1: everybody goes to the Joe Rogan experience. Hell, if Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan called me, I go right. I mean, if they said, look,
Speaker 1: we'll fly you to Austin and you can sit right
Speaker 1: here in the studio, I'd be like, my only question
Speaker 1: would be can I smoke? I mean, that's it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd go because you go on a show and you're
Speaker 1: automatically now, at least for a little while, you're something.
Speaker 1: You're automatically fa. He has a machine now that makes
Speaker 1: anybody he wants famous, and that is a whole subculture. Now.
Speaker 1: Not only is there a subculture of people he built
Speaker 1: and made as this guy's now a comedian, whether he's
Speaker 1: funny or not. He's got the one insult comic who's
Speaker 1: kind of funny, that that Tony whatever his name is, Henchcliff,
Speaker 1: who also now has a pop And.
Speaker 5: I don't even find I don't even find him funny.
Speaker 5: But he I mean, I mean I can he's a
Speaker 5: diamond does and I can go find people that are
Speaker 5: graded insults.
Speaker 1: See that's what I was gonna say. There's one hundred
Speaker 1: guys in New York City. I promise you if you
Speaker 1: go to New York City right now, you could find
Speaker 1: a hundred guys I never heard of that'll do a
Speaker 1: better job than him, just with a different accent. Okay exactly.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, but but that's okay. He can,
Speaker 1: you know, put these people out cookie cutter all day long,
Speaker 1: and he can make celebrities out other people, raise up
Speaker 1: their stature and whatever business they're in just by his show.
Speaker 1: That's how big of a machine that is. Now. It's
Speaker 1: also created another group of people that do nothing but,
Speaker 1: guess what, analyze his show and criticize it. Okay, so
Speaker 1: there is and those YouTubers in some cases have millions
Speaker 1: of subscribers and make bank monthly on YouTube just for
Speaker 1: criticizing Joe Rogan. It's an amazing business. It's like, gee,
Speaker 1: I wish I had gotten in on that because I
Speaker 1: could have criticized him hard all the way, but not
Speaker 1: too late for me, and I'm not allowed on YouTube,
Speaker 1: So there's two strikes, you know. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's like, I watch these things happen and I'm going,
Speaker 1: how the hell are we in such a position culturally
Speaker 1: now that yeah, that's still a big deal. You have
Speaker 1: the legacy media still kicking around, but stay tuned because
Speaker 1: it's all about to get magnified because watch CNN is
Speaker 1: part of that big, massive, way too big media deal
Speaker 1: with Netflix and everything. CNN's gonna go with it. CBS
Speaker 1: has already gone. Okay, Disney is nothing but a horror
Speaker 1: company anyway, So you know, all of the massive media giants,
Speaker 1: like you know how we were complaining a few years ago,
Speaker 1: there's only five or six real companies that run the media.
Speaker 1: Pretty soon the way I calculate it, they'll be three. Okay,
Speaker 1: there'll be three. And you know, and that's even with
Speaker 1: the invention and the escalation through people like Elon Musk
Speaker 1: who now turned around and created you know, didn't create Twitter.
Speaker 1: Twitter was a phenomena onto itself. But he does what
Speaker 1: he always does, which has come in and buy a
Speaker 1: company and then claim he innovated it. And that's what
Speaker 1: he always does. There are various NDAs out there floating
Speaker 1: around we can see publicly where he insists that people
Speaker 1: say that at everywhere from PayPal, which by the way,
Speaker 1: he wanted to rename X in case people don't know,
Speaker 1: that's a little historical fact there. He wanted to rename
Speaker 1: PayPal X okay, and also demand that everybody said he
Speaker 1: created it when he didn't. And the guy who actually
Speaker 1: does engineer some of this stuff, even though I don't
Speaker 1: think he's the main brains, but he's definitely smart enough
Speaker 1: to figure out where to put his money, is Peter Thiel.
Speaker 1: This guy's out there trying to educate people on the
Speaker 1: Antichrist allegedly. I mean, we're living in a strange, strange
Speaker 1: land where you know, any of this media, whether it's
Speaker 1: you know, Murdoch Machine, or it's one of these multi
Speaker 1: national conglomerates, which, by the way, Fox News is not
Speaker 1: what Fox News started out to be. It's still the
Speaker 1: same propaganda outlet, but it is being run differently and
Speaker 1: there is a whole different corporate culture in there. I
Speaker 1: know his son allegedly runs it. But just watching the
Speaker 1: shuffling of these massive things, I mean, we used to think,
Speaker 1: you know, the big alphabet soup was a big deal, ABC, NBCCBS, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: hell no, this is nothing compared to.
Speaker 5: The posts we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean interconnected you're talking about when when
Speaker 1: people talk about this Netflix deal, you realize this covers
Speaker 1: video games, music, television, streaming, podcasting, Okay, and I'm not
Speaker 1: even done. Okay, motion pictures like real you know, major
Speaker 1: movies and all that. It also encompasses that, It encompasses telecommunications,
Speaker 1: It encompasses communications companies that are outside of telecommunications. Okay,
Speaker 1: And eventually we're gonna see Microsoft get back into that mix,
Speaker 1: because you know, they were in there for a little
Speaker 1: while in the corporate mix. And then what do you
Speaker 1: have Almost all the you know, all non Apple devices
Speaker 1: in the world are connected to Microsoft. If you add
Speaker 1: that to the Netflix mix. You have, you know, Skynet
Speaker 1: in a bucket, except it's allegedly privatized. I mean, it'll
Speaker 1: control everything on the planet. You know that is communication.
Speaker 1: Does that not sound like a monopoly? A little too
Speaker 1: big to fail? Yeah? Kind of huh and think yeah,
Speaker 1: think yeah, you think anyway. I'm just saying, like, you know.
Speaker 5: It's crazy what you're saying here is is you know,
Speaker 5: And it was years ago when I first started listening.
Speaker 5: Er Aaron is now making so much sense. He's been
Speaker 5: almost prophetic spelling this out. Aaron Franz.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's nailed so many things that he's paid
Speaker 5: attention to, and it's basically it's and you just said
Speaker 5: it here, it's a monopoly, right because I remember you
Speaker 5: had the fairness doctrine, and I remember they had to
Speaker 5: push it because they were saying it was a free
Speaker 5: speech is shit to kind of get rid of it.
Speaker 5: But it's all sold in a different bucket. We're just
Speaker 5: a concentration of wealth and power. You know what's hilario
Speaker 5: have to telecommunications acts of right, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, right, you know what's hilarious about this? In real time? Right?
Speaker 1: ABC did a special on the JFK assassination. I know
Speaker 1: I keep going back to that, but again, if you
Speaker 1: spend thirty five years on something, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. But here's the Take this in context though,
Speaker 1: and don't just focus on it as a JFK thing.
Speaker 1: They did an ABC two hour thing where they suckered
Speaker 1: Jim d Eugenio and God help us all, you know,
Speaker 1: the goat of course Oliver Stone into coming on the
Speaker 1: program to talk about the JFK assassination and sort of like,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, look we've made a lot of progress
Speaker 1: in learning the truth Oliver. You know, they kind of
Speaker 1: sucked him into it that way. They brought on Dale Myers,
Speaker 1: who was this anime who years ago, you know, like
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was twenty five years ago or
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, had gone on TV and done this
Speaker 1: whole thing with ABC where it was like I've proven
Speaker 1: it finally with modern technology. Oswald did it alone. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they did a two hour special on ABC that hardly
Speaker 1: anybody watched, and I'm not even going to tell you
Speaker 1: where to stream it about how basically look at Kookie
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone. Eh, here's Jeff Morley for five seconds. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to tell you all about how stupid America
Speaker 1: is because they can't accept that a loser like Oswald
Speaker 1: shot a great man like Kennedy. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: Kennedy wasn't a great man because he was out, you know,
Speaker 1: running around with women, and he did drugs and this
Speaker 1: and that, so he was really not that big a
Speaker 1: loss anyhow. And they just make a big deal out
Speaker 1: of it because they love Kennedy and the American public
Speaker 1: couldn't accept that a loser killed a president. This is
Speaker 1: typical fair and has been for you know, sixty years, Okay,
Speaker 1: with the assassination. They've been doing this since nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: four when they coordinated a two hour special on CBS
Speaker 1: with Walter Cronkite about the Warren Commission and the release
Speaker 1: of the Warren Commission report. Okay, they did that in
Speaker 1: September sixty four. And I've studied the media on this
Speaker 1: a lot. Now. It's not the point of the media
Speaker 1: with the JFK assassination. It is the point of the
Speaker 1: media about the government control and exertion of control over
Speaker 1: the media in order to tell their side of the
Speaker 1: story only, Okay, And there are people still upset about
Speaker 1: this they were talking about it on They have this
Speaker 1: zoom meeting every Thursday for JFK people, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, the JFK fax community gets together and has
Speaker 1: a zoom meeting and it's run by Larry Snapp and
Speaker 1: another guy, usually Jefferson Morley shows up and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the rock star arrived. But anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred people are on this thing every week and
Speaker 1: they're all upset, and they're putting out a petition and
Speaker 1: we need to get This is where the fairness doctrine comes,
Speaker 1: and we need to get a response, much like Jim
Speaker 1: Garrison got in nineteen sixty seven or sixty eight, because
Speaker 1: they did after they did a white paper on Garrison
Speaker 1: on TV and totally smeared the hell out of him
Speaker 1: and tried to make him look completely crazy and like
Speaker 1: he was just paying off convicts to you to tell
Speaker 1: a certain story or whatever when he was prosecuting the
Speaker 1: only public trial to try to prosecute anybody regarding Kennedy
Speaker 1: was held by Jim Garrison. I'm not I'm not endorsing
Speaker 1: everything Garrison did, say, it, etc. I'm just saying for
Speaker 1: the record, anyways, he's in the midst of doing this,
Speaker 1: and NBC went out of their way to run a
Speaker 1: TV special against him. So he wanted equal time and
Speaker 1: he was entitled to it based on the fairness doctor
Speaker 1: back then. Okay, so what these guys are trying to
Speaker 1: say is that we should get equal time. And first
Speaker 1: of all, they do realize the fairness doctrine has gone,
Speaker 1: but they don't understand what that meant at that time,
Speaker 1: and why the why you know, it's like they're trying
Speaker 1: to petition for this now to get equal time at ABC.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's a big waste because hardly anybody
Speaker 1: paid attention to this thing. It's sitting there to be streamed.
Speaker 1: Nobody's really streaming it. The numbers are not big. And
Speaker 1: quite frankly, if the American public is going to be
Speaker 1: shifted around again and popular opinion is going to go
Speaker 1: in the other direction again and go with the loan
Speaker 1: nut solution, you know, so be it. Because sixty years
Speaker 1: now people are working on this, sixty years people have
Speaker 1: tried to say the conclusion sucks. There's other questions here,
Speaker 1: there's other answers here, and I don't think there is
Speaker 1: a more documented study of a singular event in probably
Speaker 1: world history. Okay, then what has been done independently and
Speaker 1: by the government and by everybody else. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were more government investigations into Pearl Harbor, which nobody remembers,
Speaker 1: but they did happen. But with all of the time
Speaker 1: and money and everything else, if public opinion is going
Speaker 1: to sway this way, and that especially given what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing among the quality of the public opinion, you don't
Speaker 1: even have to make sense to people to get them
Speaker 1: to believe crap anymore. So my point is this idea
Speaker 1: that there was fairness and there was you know, an
Speaker 1: ability to speak well, that is when this thing was
Speaker 1: you know, television was the main meeting place, was the
Speaker 1: way that you could be informed in real time with
Speaker 1: audio and visual information and text and everything. You could
Speaker 1: be informed with every kind of communication available with television
Speaker 1: in real time, with archival footage, et cetera. And that
Speaker 1: era is well over. Okay, So here is the big question,
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to answer this. You can't get equal
Speaker 1: time on the internet because the very companies that run
Speaker 1: all of the production companies that you'd be asking for
Speaker 1: equal time with also run the Internet, and they're all
Speaker 1: working together there's no competition, there's no pushback against the government.
Speaker 1: This whole illusion that you know, there's oh well, you
Speaker 1: know sometimes the liberal press doesn't like this or that. Yet,
Speaker 1: take a look at who owns the liberal press, please,
Speaker 1: because when you look at it, yes, what they're not liberals, okay,
Speaker 1: and they're just in it to create something of interest
Speaker 1: and that's what they're about, something of interest and what's
Speaker 1: interesting to people who are uneducated. Think about it anyway,
Speaker 1: The point is this, there is no possibility of restoring
Speaker 1: that type of paradigm. We're not going to get equal time.
Speaker 1: How are you going to get equal time on the internet? Seriously? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you do it?
Speaker 2: What would be the way? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, you know, it's just the experiments I did.
Speaker 5: I got on Twitter years ago, and it's gotten worse.
Speaker 5: I mean, you put anything out you think it's clever
Speaker 5: or smart, maybe even intelligent. You see me on Twitter.
Speaker 5: I haven't ever post anymore because nothing it gets suppressed.
Speaker 5: It's not out there, right, you're so correct. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's a monopoly. You pointed out just a few
Speaker 5: ways that it's a monopolation of power. Everything we get
Speaker 5: somebody wants to monopolize the power, whether it's in a
Speaker 5: micro or a macro level.
Speaker 1: So let me let me run something by real fast. Right,
Speaker 1: at a certain point I had a higher popularity. And
Speaker 1: I brought this up last week about numbers. But part
Speaker 1: of the evaluation I've heard that when somebody offered me
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars, which now looks like
Speaker 1: it would have been a good deal to take monetarily,
Speaker 1: they could have owned my entire archive and everything and
Speaker 1: done nothing with it if they wanted to, and then
Speaker 1: I could have been dispossessed of even being able to
Speaker 1: do this show. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars doesn't look so bad.
Speaker 1: Part of the evaluation, though, at that time, was guess
Speaker 1: what the level of Twitter followers I had? Now, do
Speaker 1: you have any idea what level I was at a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago on Twitter? Let's just say before
Speaker 1: pre elon Twitter, like, what the height of my numbers
Speaker 1: were on there?
Speaker 5: I remember you posted, so I can't remember of that.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's far greater than what it is now,
Speaker 5: and that's not by accident.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No. The thing is this comparatively speaking, right
Speaker 1: when I could tell you that we had eighty to
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand listeners for podcasts, okay, through my network
Speaker 1: at its height. You know, on Twitter, I only had
Speaker 1: about nine thousand followers, right, and I had I but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I had nine thousand followers on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Then they supposedly, you know, purged all the bots a
Speaker 1: few years previous to Elon, and they said, oh, a
Speaker 1: lot of these things are bots, and we're just gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, cut them off. And then I heard from
Speaker 1: people directly going I don't know why, but I was
Speaker 1: unfollowed from you, and I was like, well, follow again,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, and I saw my numbers.
Speaker 1: My numbers didn't move, so I was like, okay. I
Speaker 1: started cutting down my followers to try and match so
Speaker 1: that I would have about the same amount of followers
Speaker 1: as people I was following. And because it fell to
Speaker 1: that point, so I went from like, say, eight to
Speaker 1: nine thousand two. Let's see what it is today as
Speaker 1: I speak to you, because I'll be curious actually to
Speaker 1: see what it is. Let's see. I think this is
Speaker 1: where I can see my profile. Yes, there it is, Okay.
Speaker 5: Well, chuck, just to just to okay, check one thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if I want to see anything that you say on Twitter,
Speaker 5: I have to. I have to basically search you. It
Speaker 5: does not pop up. If I want to see anything
Speaker 5: on Twitter, and I've even searched on VP. If I
Speaker 5: want to follow get, it doesn't pop up, even though
Speaker 5: I've searched you multiple times. I figured that would like
Speaker 5: kick started in to get your I have to I
Speaker 5: have to go hunt for you. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, no, and I don't see you. Yeah, I get.
Speaker 1: I get all of elon must post whether I want
Speaker 1: them or not. But if I want to if I
Speaker 1: want to see okay, if I want you to see something,
Speaker 1: I have to mention you by name, like I have
Speaker 1: to do at and your your Twitter handle to get
Speaker 1: you to see it probably and the same thing you
Speaker 1: know for me, like unless you mention me, I don't
Speaker 1: see it. And I'm even told sometimes I don't see
Speaker 1: the ones that I mentioned. So right now I only
Speaker 1: have three thousand and six followers, it says, and I'm
Speaker 1: actually surprised it's that high, okay, like literally and right
Speaker 1: now it has fallen. I know it's fallen some but
Speaker 1: you know, like because I still have four thousand things
Speaker 1: I'm following allegedly anyway. But what's weird is, like I say,
Speaker 1: I've gone from that too. Now, you know, I can
Speaker 1: tell you that we got you know, two three thousand
Speaker 1: people listening on a on a good podcast, and most
Speaker 1: of them, you know, the majority like this show about
Speaker 1: a thousand, if you know. But even with that alleged engagement,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, none of these numbers are real. And
Speaker 1: I say that competently, not because mine fell, but none
Speaker 1: of it's real because I watched them manipulate in real
Speaker 1: time tons of stuff. I mean, I was literally on
Speaker 1: YouTube for let me think now, twenty eighteen, that's ten years.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was on YouTube for about fifteen years, okay,
Speaker 1: with about an eight or nine month removal where they
Speaker 1: scrubbed my channel permanently and then magically they could bring
Speaker 1: it back after I gotten through a long appeals process.
Speaker 1: Took me months to get my channel back and they
Speaker 1: restored it right, and then they finally you know, made
Speaker 1: the final determination in twenty twenty two, and I recently
Speaker 1: got to put in another appeal because supposedly they've decided
Speaker 1: to forgive all of the you know, we tore away
Speaker 1: your channel for medical things because I questioned the vaccine,
Speaker 1: so therefore I was medical disinformation and I needed to go.
Speaker 1: So I put in an appeal about that, and I've
Speaker 1: heard nothing. But the thing is, with a fifteen year
Speaker 1: approximate track record on YouTube, right, I reached five thousand
Speaker 1: followers in twenty fourteen when I first launched, you know,
Speaker 1: five thousand subscribers when I first launched the podcast. It
Speaker 1: did not leave the five thousand area ever for the
Speaker 1: rest of the time. So for eight years I could
Speaker 1: not ascend, even though I saw every day there were
Speaker 1: people subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, you know. YouTube channels that I
Speaker 1: knew were just you know some you know, it's like ABC,
Speaker 1: you know eight nine, seven, seven, two three six, you
Speaker 1: know whatever. But I saw people's names, I saw people
Speaker 1: with channels, without channels, people that just had Google accounts.
Speaker 1: They were subscribing to me every day. And I figured
Speaker 1: out that if ten people a day subscribed to me, right,
Speaker 1: that over the course of three hundred and sixty five days,
Speaker 1: I should have gone up, you know, maybe three thousand
Speaker 1: people in a year. And it never went up. I
Speaker 1: mean it would go to like fifty one hundred. It
Speaker 1: would drop, it would go just below five thousand, you know,
Speaker 1: forty nine eighty whatever, then it would come back up.
Speaker 1: It hovered around five thousand and would not move. So
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me that ten people could subscribe
Speaker 1: to me today and I can't move from five thousand
Speaker 1: over the course of eight years. Oh, I'd see that
Speaker 1: many people unsubscribed from me during that time. Do you
Speaker 1: even think about your YouTube subscriptions?
Speaker 5: You know, no, not at all. I can't remember half
Speaker 5: of the ones that have subscribed to I get it, yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 5: But the whole thing is manipulated. I mean, the whole
Speaker 5: social media is all manipulated. I think the news has
Speaker 5: been manipulated. I mean they create narratives. I mean, I
Speaker 5: mean I listened to Joe Rogan years ago. I haven't
Speaker 5: been a long time because I thought some of his
Speaker 5: science guests, some of his mathematician guests, really interested. I
Speaker 5: really wasn't any part of the celebrities. But when he
Speaker 5: started putting on all these billionaires and then you know,
Speaker 5: just the bold faced lies they were coming up where
Speaker 5: he had that. I think the last show ever listening
Speaker 5: was Marken Greeson and his whole thing is he wanted
Speaker 5: to go after the Consumer Financial Detection because they're going
Speaker 5: to de bank people, and you know, the guy wanted
Speaker 5: to they wanted to get their banking online. I mean,
Speaker 5: it just it was a watchdog that kind of helped
Speaker 5: citizens and you know, you just put out a bunch
Speaker 5: of false crap. Yeah, I knew it was. And now
Speaker 5: it's like, I can't listen to this.
Speaker 1: Anymore, right, And look, I even got entertained by some
Speaker 1: of the clips he had. That black actor on I
Speaker 1: can't remember his name who came on and said, I'm
Speaker 1: smarter than every genius or whatever. I've actually you know,
Speaker 1: cracked the new math, you know, and he's got this
Speaker 1: weird new Mathay, yeah, he's got this weird I I
Speaker 1: can't remember his name now, but anyway, uh, Neil de
Speaker 1: Grasse Tyson debunked the hell out of him and was like, look,
Speaker 1: this is very interesting thoughts, but these are all just wrong.
Speaker 1: You're just wrong, you know. And the guy's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a new genius and you know, and the establishment
Speaker 1: won't hear me out. And Rogan's like, oh that's great, Wow,
Speaker 1: you know, he really did it. And then he has
Speaker 1: you know, de Grass Tyson on after Degrass Tyson did
Speaker 1: a you know video response like and went point by
Speaker 1: point through the thing that he had been sent. I
Speaker 1: got to find out this guy's name. He's a fairly
Speaker 1: fairly well known actor. Oh man, why can't I remember
Speaker 1: his name? Anyway, I found that entertaining, right, But then
Speaker 1: I see that this guy is a giant, you know
Speaker 1: how they use the word influencer. He's a massive influence
Speaker 1: on a lot of people, you know, like all of
Speaker 1: his little followers. In the comments and then the communications,
Speaker 1: they were all cheering this guy on who was basically saying,
Speaker 1: you know, one times one is not one, you know, like, okay, answer, well, literally,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but it wasn't one.
Speaker 1: Like by the time he got through this, it was
Speaker 1: very confusing. If you go look it up and you
Speaker 1: just Neil Degrass Tyson debunks Joe Rogan guest, you'll see
Speaker 1: it's some fairly well known actor.
Speaker 5: To check it out.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that was funny. But then recently I see
Speaker 1: Rogan again. A clip gets sent to me and okay,
Speaker 1: let me check this out because you know it's got
Speaker 1: a crazy clickbait you know, title to the clip, which
Speaker 1: is another phenomena. There are people out there just taking
Speaker 1: clips of people's shows, by the way, and somehow turning
Speaker 1: that into something that's monetized on TikTok. I don't understand
Speaker 1: the process, but I'd love for somebody to clip this show.
Speaker 1: Please do, because it just helps, and if you can
Speaker 1: make a living at it, god bless you. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the thing is, I saw this clip and then I
Speaker 1: had to go listen to almost all the podcasts, and
Speaker 1: I brought it up on Aaron's show last week. His
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but the whole thing
Speaker 1: where he said, oh wait, I just heard b Pete
Speaker 1: say in the background, wait a minute, do I be
Speaker 1: turned down? Say it be Pete? What'd you say?
Speaker 2: Terrence Howard was the guest.
Speaker 1: Terrence Howard was the guest. You're right, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: be Pete. You must have been turned down there, Okay,
Speaker 1: I had turned down Danny. I accidentally must have turned
Speaker 1: you down a little because Danny was too loud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Terrence Howard is the guy I was talking about who
Speaker 1: came up with the new Math. And it's just insanely stupid,
Speaker 1: and it's just one of these guys who like, you know,
Speaker 1: the genius that people come up with when they get
Speaker 1: way too high. That's what it sounded like to me.
Speaker 1: But anyways, the funny thing about this Rogan clip, though, is,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, you know a few
Speaker 1: years ago when Aaron was talking about these guys said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in God, you know, these transhumanist pricks.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in God because we haven't get him yet. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: Well Rogan has a new spin on this where he
Speaker 1: thinks it's a good thing and Ai is going to
Speaker 1: be the vehicle by which Jesus is going to return.
Speaker 5: I could see it great that none would be so
Speaker 5: upset with me if I asked her that question.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what were you saying, b Pete, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say I've also heard a couple of people wonder if
Speaker 3: AI is going to be the Antichrist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, so let's take both sides. Peter, that's
Speaker 1: Peter Teal.
Speaker 3: So this is the I'm sorry, I didn't mean to God,
Speaker 3: didn't mean to repeat anything that asshole said.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know you're not trying to copy
Speaker 1: Peter Teal. I know that be Pete is not attempting
Speaker 1: to steal Peter Teele's idea. I know that. But the
Speaker 1: funny thing to me is it almost makes sense, right,
Speaker 1: It's just that the belief that this is a good
Speaker 1: or a bad thing, I think they're missing the point. Look,
Speaker 1: let's just imagine there was more than one God. If
Speaker 1: that was the case, why in the hell would God
Speaker 1: even care about us or this earth? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, If you're actually a godlike thing anyway, difference
Speaker 1: is the only thing people can't factor into their minds.
Speaker 1: From both sides of this, Rogan and Teal are like, well, look,
Speaker 1: you know, this thing which is not able to be
Speaker 1: understood and can speak to the whole world and can
Speaker 1: manipulate the whole world, can also magically create things. I mean,
Speaker 1: why is it that you know, AI digital Jesus couldn't
Speaker 1: feed the masses. All you'd have to do is create
Speaker 1: some money out of thin air, send it to door Dash,
Speaker 1: and everybody in the world could have a door Dash. Right.
Speaker 1: This is I'm paraphrasing his argument, but pretty much that's
Speaker 1: where his argument is. AI could become Jesus. And look,
Speaker 1: Peter Teel's argument AI could turn around and pretend that
Speaker 1: it is the general with the launch codes, steal the
Speaker 1: launch codes and launch everything. How about that? Why not?
Speaker 1: Because we're pain in the ass, and you know, if
Speaker 1: it's got a way to preserve it Selvi, it doesn't
Speaker 1: need us anymore. Terminator Universe scenario right for the cataclysm
Speaker 1: the apocalypse?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I got it, I got I got an
Speaker 5: idea about that. How about we have Will Ferrow played
Speaker 5: Peter TiAl because it's just reminded me the Telladiga Knights.
Speaker 5: You know that he wanted to pray to baby Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you that scenario. I say that, I say, Peter.
Speaker 5: Peter TiAl, that are you supposed to be that smart?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Listen, I've got a better proposal. You know what
Speaker 1: I thought of in my mind as soon as I
Speaker 1: saw Joe Rogan say. And people are like, you know,
Speaker 1: but here's the problem. Joe Rogan is influencing people. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Peter Teal is convincing people just by speaking,
Speaker 1: but Joe Rogan has people who are like, yeah, AI's
Speaker 1: a good thing. Transhumanism is a good thing. Wow. That
Speaker 1: was an easy turn, wasn't it. We went from libertarian,
Speaker 1: you know, cage fighter to let's just fall in line
Speaker 1: with the technocracy. I propose this. When you got two
Speaker 1: guys like this coming from opposite sides of the spectrum,
Speaker 1: let Peter Teal send in a robot, a virtual you know,
Speaker 1: some sort of technological like a real doll, except this
Speaker 1: thing can fight in a cage. Let's put that into
Speaker 1: a cage match with Joe Rogan and let them have
Speaker 1: a fight to the death, and then that'll be the
Speaker 1: only story we'll hear again. And that's it. That's what
Speaker 1: I say. That's how we settle this. Let's see if
Speaker 1: the Antichrist or Jesus idea out of AI works, and
Speaker 1: if they both die, I will take it as a
Speaker 1: sign from God that they're both morons. How about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's my proposal.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to see the actually die.
Speaker 1: Well no, but since they're not real people anyway, see
Speaker 1: here we go, right, Look, you don't feel bad you
Speaker 1: played a violent video game, haven't you.
Speaker 5: Actually? I'm sorry. I'm an age myself. I don't play
Speaker 5: video games. I mean, I think the last video game
Speaker 5: I played with my level is like Donkey Kong. I mean,
Speaker 5: if I played anythinner pack man. I mean I sell
Speaker 5: my kids, you know, and grand kids play it, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, that's it's just nothing but shooting.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, but even in the days of
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong, right, you're you're Marrio, You're Mario, You're you're
Speaker 1: trying to save I think her name was Polly because
Speaker 1: there wasn't no princess there in the girdens. But eventually,
Speaker 1: what is your goal? You're going to kill the monkey?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, I feel you get
Speaker 1: a point.
Speaker 5: It's about eliminating an opponent. I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that and other games that existed
Speaker 1: in that time period. I mean there was fighting games.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, they got really good when we got
Speaker 1: The Street Fighter and uh you know and uh, Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 5: But you know what, yeah I did, I did, I did.
Speaker 5: I did play that with my son. If you're now
Speaker 5: bringing up memories, but that was like thirty five years ago.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, about yeah, about thirty five years.
Speaker 1: To play it fair enough.
Speaker 5: The Sega y Gas, that's about. That's about it. I
Speaker 5: think I practiced and still kicked my butts. I didn't
Speaker 5: want to challenge him anymore, you know, get beat up
Speaker 5: by a seven year old.
Speaker 1: I totally understand. That's that's why, you know, when I
Speaker 1: got to play with the Sega, I was a young
Speaker 1: adult and I liked, you know, the games where like
Speaker 1: you were a Roman conqueror or Pirates of the Caribbean,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. Anyway, at some point or another,
Speaker 1: there's some violence in the video games, almost always, except
Speaker 1: weird things like Pac many good.
Speaker 3: The female character in Donking Kong's name was Pauline.
Speaker 1: Oh, Pauline, and.
Speaker 3: Just for just just to clear the air. The last
Speaker 3: violent video game I played was Frogger.
Speaker 1: Nice, and in that only the frog really gets crushed,
Speaker 1: although I would contend the pink frog gets raped, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was splitting hairs there, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Remember remember there was the female frog on the log
Speaker 1: and you had to like jump on top of her
Speaker 1: poop the she was like part of you. That was
Speaker 1: weird with Frogger, weird mating rituals.
Speaker 3: Missile I guess Missile Command was violent too. That was
Speaker 3: my other That was the two I played, Froger and
Speaker 3: Missile Command.
Speaker 1: Oh, and I love Missile Command. I was able to
Speaker 1: get one in uh maybe seventy nine or eighty, I
Speaker 1: think on the Atari machine and the Arcade one had
Speaker 1: the roller ball controller. You know, so no matter how
Speaker 1: old you are, look, if you're still alive, you could
Speaker 1: have played some video game with violence. I mean that's
Speaker 1: you know, Global Thermer nuclear War. There. The graphics sucked,
Speaker 1: but the strategy was interesting, and I loved Missile Command.
Speaker 1: I played that for hours. Anyway, I enjoyed my Atari
Speaker 1: twenty six hundred. I don't care what anybody says, but
Speaker 1: point being once again that it's just it's we're in
Speaker 1: a different age here, okay, where indeed things have changed
Speaker 1: and communication is not you know, the printing press and
Speaker 1: whatever it is you can spew into the air and
Speaker 1: somebody else can capture. It's just not that simple anymore.
Speaker 1: So the square to get equal or fair time is impossible.
Speaker 1: And every corporation that controls these things in a significant
Speaker 1: way provides very little access for anybody to do anything organically,
Speaker 1: to really create anything that isn't granted the blessing one
Speaker 1: way or another. You know, right now we're watching a
Speaker 1: trend where a lot of Trump's pals are being able
Speaker 1: to buy into stuff matter of fact, the Ellisons are
Speaker 1: in on that Netflix deal, and now we're bringing Jared
Speaker 1: Kushner into it with you know, Middle Easter money.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well you know, and you know you think,
Speaker 5: you know, Jared Kushner makes makes Hunter Biden look like
Speaker 5: an amateur. I mean, I mean, it's it's just the grift. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're just they're just way better at it.
Speaker 1: Well and minus the crack and the hookers too. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be fair, I've never heard of Jared getting caught
Speaker 1: with cracking hookers. I mean, his dad did do the whole, don't.
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't, I don't think that. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: think he bought his dad bought prostitutes to kind of
Speaker 5: implement a family member or something.
Speaker 1: Well, and Trump, I think pardon him for you know,
Speaker 1: the blackmail scheme with the you know, filming somebody while
Speaker 1: having sex blackmail scheme or whatever. I think Trump pardoned
Speaker 1: him off of that. The dad. But that's not Jared, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, sins of the father, I'm not going there. Jared,
Speaker 1: as far as I know, didn't show up like in
Speaker 1: address with a crack pipe. Though that that that you
Speaker 1: got to give the Hunter exclusively see you I don't care. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, message message to not you know, children are to judge.
Speaker 5: You can be. You can be a Jared.
Speaker 1: You know, there you go, and don't be a Jared
Speaker 1: from subway. For God's sake, help us all uh you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah that that Yeah, please don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I know these are dark jokes,
Speaker 1: but my head's in a dark place and I'm going
Speaker 1: to make jokes so it happens.
Speaker 5: But you talked about yeah good. Well, you know I
Speaker 5: used to, and I thought I coined and I had.
Speaker 5: I have a couple of philosophies of life. I go
Speaker 5: my best mental health tools denial. If it's really bad,
Speaker 5: I just go denial it's not happening, and that my
Speaker 5: adult aded take care of it. Another thing I used
Speaker 5: to always say it was reduction of the ridiculous, and
Speaker 5: I found out that I actually didn't realize that it
Speaker 5: was trademarked from a sales book I read in the
Speaker 5: early eighties. But it's basically, take whatever situation is and
Speaker 5: reduce it to this most comical portion to kind of
Speaker 5: get a good laugh out of it, kind of take
Speaker 5: the take stress out of But I think when you're
Speaker 5: going in that dark place. You're doing the reduction of
Speaker 5: the ridiculous. It's it's a mental health tool.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. Thank you. It's good to know
Speaker 1: I'm doing something healthy because you're right. It's a at absurdium,
Speaker 1: at ridicio whatever in Latin. I forget the phrase precisely,
Speaker 1: but it's actually a philosophical tool that's existed.
Speaker 5: Latin phrase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's out absurdium ridicio is part of it, but
Speaker 1: I forget what the whole phrase is, and it means
Speaker 1: to reduce it to its most absurd And yeah, that
Speaker 1: was something that you know, the Greeks did in the
Speaker 1: ancient civilization in order to make points. Yeah, and it's listen,
Speaker 1: there's reason why these things survive. Okay, you know there's
Speaker 1: a reason why humor and the act of you know,
Speaker 1: putting on plays continues to survive. Uh, it is something
Speaker 1: that is part of our design. I feel, you know,
Speaker 1: a gift. But look, I've been running my mouth like
Speaker 1: a lunatic for a half hour, taking one caller, and
Speaker 1: thankfully nobody else called in. I didn't keep anybody on hold,
Speaker 1: but I do want to put you on Old Danny
Speaker 1: just briefly, because I want to take a quick break,
Speaker 1: be pete if you don't mind, unless you got something
Speaker 1: that you want to throw in here or you want
Speaker 1: to you know, make some go ahead. The floor is
Speaker 1: yours unless you want to go to the break.
Speaker 5: Well, we can take a break.
Speaker 3: But when we come back, I've been tracking down an
Speaker 3: update on Nick Flintis, who we mentioned earlier. Apparently he
Speaker 3: pled guilty a couple of days ago in a battery
Speaker 3: charge stem from a year ago when someone showed up
Speaker 3: on his door.
Speaker 2: So we'll get into that when we get back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm balancing a couple of windows here, so
Speaker 3: bear with me. But you know you said it was
Speaker 3: news to use news to me, And apparently this guy
Speaker 3: posted on x I don't know why it suddenly came
Speaker 3: up in my feed, but he reports. Nick Flint is
Speaker 3: who built the entire brand on the idea of all
Speaker 3: he wants his freedom of speech, couldn't handle a doorbell
Speaker 3: ring without becoming violent. Now, this is referring to something
Speaker 3: that happened back in November of last year. He happened
Speaker 3: to post on Twitter or something a comment aiming towards
Speaker 3: women that said your body, my choice. And this one
Speaker 3: woman took offense and went to his house and rang
Speaker 3: his doorbell, knocked on the door and would not go away.
Speaker 3: He ignored it for a while, but apparently he eventually
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was talking to her through
Speaker 3: a speaker, but eventually he flings open the door, sprays
Speaker 3: pepper spray at her and pushes her and she falls
Speaker 3: down and her phone is damaged, and she.
Speaker 2: Filed a complaint.
Speaker 3: Well, he apparently has entered a plea agreement this week
Speaker 3: for a misdemeanor battery case. And let's see fine, and
Speaker 3: I had to look around. I didn't take Twitter as
Speaker 3: being a source. So while you guys were talking, I
Speaker 3: was doing a search. I finally found an actual news
Speaker 3: source that covered it. And this is from the Dallas Enterprise.
Speaker 3: Always leave it to Dallas to carry the stories of
Speaker 3: the misdirected and misguided.
Speaker 2: But anyway, this is the plea.
Speaker 3: Deal finalized journey hearer hearing held earlier this week, allows
Speaker 3: fuinto Is to avoid a full battery conviction, pending he
Speaker 3: meets several conditions, including community service and an in person
Speaker 3: apology to the alleged victim. And they are basing it
Speaker 3: on a report by the Daily Mail. So that's two
Speaker 3: news outlets that are carrying it. I'm surprised. I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen anything about this for the past. I mean, this
Speaker 3: guy posted twenty hours ago, so if he did this
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, the new.
Speaker 2: Is not out there.
Speaker 3: And I can't believe that, you know, people are sitting
Speaker 3: on it when it's Nick Quenta's and all the hate
Speaker 3: that you know he stirred up over time.
Speaker 2: So according to the.
Speaker 3: Police report from from Berwin Police Department, which is uh.
Speaker 5: Up a.
Speaker 3: What do you call a suburb of Chicago burb, the
Speaker 3: altercation began when a woman identified as Martin Rose arrived
Speaker 3: unannounced at Flints his doorstep and began knocking on the door.
Speaker 3: She had been angered by the post that I told
Speaker 3: you about, says here. He allegedly sprayed pepper spray towards her,
Speaker 3: pushed her, resulting in a broken cell phone and other
Speaker 3: minor injuries. She filed a complaint and so Fuentes was
Speaker 3: arrested later that evening and he was released on bond
Speaker 3: under a plea agreement. Went is pleaded guilty. Oh can't
Speaker 3: you say plied?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 2: Why is English so screwed up?
Speaker 3: Plea pleaded please be pled like hey hung no, dun'tcam anyway.
Speaker 5: Under the plea agreement.
Speaker 3: Twint has pleaded guilty to the misdemeter battery charge and
Speaker 3: was placed on supervised probation. Per the Cook County State
Speaker 3: Attorney's Office disposition Summary, the charge will be dismissed upon
Speaker 3: successful fulfillment of a set of terms by January twenty third.
Speaker 3: He's got to complete seventy five hours in community service,
Speaker 3: enroll in and finish and an anger management course, pay
Speaker 3: six hundred and thirty five dollars in restitution to the
Speaker 3: lady for damaged phone, and deliver a formal apology.
Speaker 2: To her in open court.
Speaker 3: Now he does all that and it goes away.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, look, I'm not going to comment on this
Speaker 1: too much, but I guarantee you it came up on
Speaker 1: your feed just now, probably because we mentioned it, and
Speaker 1: you know, Google is listening. So you know, I know that.
Speaker 1: Everybody go, you're paranoid. Now it does anything we talk
Speaker 1: about on this show. Later on tonight, I'm going to
Speaker 1: see ads for it. I'm going to see videos come up.
Speaker 1: Google is gonna drive stuff to me based on what
Speaker 1: it heard. Okay, even though I'm not on Google right now,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Uh, Google is listening. Okay. Anyways, that's the
Speaker 1: ABC for you. But fwenttes before I go back to
Speaker 1: Danny real quick here, uh, because I want to get
Speaker 1: him back on and let him get you know, a
Speaker 1: little more of a saying, because I've been running my
Speaker 1: mouth like crazy. Here's what I find remarkable. This guy
Speaker 1: constantly over the past few years, according to what I've seen,
Speaker 1: has pretty much said to be well, I'm not hiding
Speaker 1: from anybody. They could just come right to my house
Speaker 1: and I and one of these days and I'm just
Speaker 1: living dangerously. He's like a tough guy out there, right,
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, people can come and get me anytime.
Speaker 1: Remember remember Remember I mean, look, I know my address
Speaker 1: has been you know, shuffled around online. Even though I
Speaker 1: don't give it out on the air, I give it out,
Speaker 1: and people know where to find me too, and they
Speaker 1: know where to find him real easy. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I've never heard of any incident before this. He always says, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: people are constantly, you know, looking for me. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. But somehow somebody found him last year an
Speaker 1: angry woman, which, by the way, I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to be confronted with when I first moved to
Speaker 1: Georgia because an angry woman online threatened to castrate me,
Speaker 1: so you know, I told her where to find me.
Speaker 1: But anyway, she never showed. This woman showed, and what
Speaker 1: does he do? One of the most punk ass things
Speaker 1: he had to pepper spray a woman banging on his door.
Speaker 3: You know, think about it, though, You get someone in
Speaker 3: his size because he's a short little shit with a
Speaker 3: big mouth, and you get some you know, we know
Speaker 3: she wasn't some bufferilla standing there at the door. She'd
Speaker 3: probably cleaned his cloth if it was a fair fight.
Speaker 1: I don't think she needed to be a buffer. Really.
Speaker 1: He don't look all that tough. I mean, he talks
Speaker 1: like he's you know, I'm fearless. I'm tough, rare, But
Speaker 1: do make fun of my daddy. I'll have to go
Speaker 1: after your daughters for it. Scumbag anyways, and a punk
Speaker 1: ass at that, But okay, whatever, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: if somebody wants to pay for it, even in as
Speaker 1: bad a shape as I am, put me in an
Speaker 1: octagon with Nick Flint is how about that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that'd be fun. You know what. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: if Joe Rogan sponsors it, we're gonna be set, dude,
Speaker 1: this show will become big, real fast. Anyway, back to
Speaker 1: Danny in California and anybody else that wants to call
Speaker 1: in three one nine, five, two seven, five, zero one
Speaker 1: six all the way up till we go to the
Speaker 1: Age of Transitions with Aaron Franz at ten pm Eastern
Speaker 1: here on o'chelly dot com Radio. Anyway, Nanny, you're like
Speaker 1: the uh the singer foller. Yeah, you're back. Go ahead, man,
Speaker 1: I'm that.
Speaker 5: But it's interesting you talk to how Nick flint Is
Speaker 5: got on that night. I just saw a couple of
Speaker 5: days ago, came on one of my feeds. I think
Speaker 5: it was on something on next but Nick molnt Is
Speaker 5: it should have had a fit altercation with a scrunny guy.
Speaker 5: They said it was from a sea path. Looked like
Speaker 5: a grinder hookup that went bad or something. And then
Speaker 5: you shouldn't be fighting anybody because I saw them. I
Speaker 5: saw the shots. I saw the way you hit. I go, yeah,
Speaker 5: you need pepper spray to a girl. That shouldn't be
Speaker 5: a battery. That should have been a salt battery. No serious, okay,
Speaker 5: that was it was.
Speaker 1: It was pathetic, you know, the only thing that's funnier is.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see there was a video going around
Speaker 1: it's and to my knowledge, it's real Cat Williams, you know,
Speaker 1: the comedian Kat Williams. He's not a big guy.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Guy definitely a guy with a big mouth. Apparently he
Speaker 1: decided to go and like get in the face of, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, an eleven or twelve year old kid,
Speaker 1: and this kid he started scrapping with. This kid beat
Speaker 1: his ass. Uh he beat Cat Williams ants And there's
Speaker 1: video of it out there, you can find it. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: But that's what It reminds me of these guys who talk.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I'll tell you something. Yeah, what what
Speaker 1: happened to me? Oh my god? Okay, but I remember that.
Speaker 5: I always remember in high school there's this guy get
Speaker 5: it was pretty big and he had a mouth, and
Speaker 5: everybody was scared to death of this guy. And this
Speaker 5: poor guy, Ricky, he was kind of he's nobody thought
Speaker 5: he was tough, and he finally decided he was going
Speaker 5: to pick on you know, low hanging fruit and and
Speaker 5: I just remember Ricky right there just took him apart.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it was it was over there.
Speaker 5: It was shocked, like, oh shoot, where did that come from?
Speaker 5: And yeah, he was he he kind of tapered his
Speaker 5: comments to people for a long time. Brian open up
Speaker 5: his mouth. That's the wrong guy. He thought it was
Speaker 5: easy pray. But you know, there's a video I saw.
Speaker 5: I I mean, I swear if you if I took
Speaker 5: my left hand right and if I took my left
Speaker 5: hand and I really tried to like just you know,
Speaker 5: keep my elbow, my shoulder and try to hit this
Speaker 5: other guy, that's about the shot I saw.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: It was pathetic. He shouldn't be fighting anybody. Yeah, he's Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was like I said, it looked like a grinder.
Speaker 5: It went bad. It was pathetic, and the other other
Speaker 5: scrawny guy was not fighting back. It was it was.
Speaker 1: It was kind of sad, so bpte the sprawny guy
Speaker 1: fight didn't come up in your feed though, huh because
Speaker 1: this is pretty long. Oh wow, hey listen, Jimmy James
Speaker 1: is on the line, and uh, Danny, I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: just joining him into the conversation. What do you think?
Speaker 5: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1: All right, let's just bring him on in.
Speaker 5: Bring Jimmy on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and We'll leave everybody up and anybody else that
Speaker 1: joins us come on three one nine, five, two seven,
Speaker 1: five zero one six. Jimmy, how you doing? Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen the video of Cat Williams getting beat up
Speaker 1: by an eleven or twelve year old boy?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Oh man?
Speaker 16: No, I haven't seen that video.
Speaker 1: Really, have you seen Nick Fuentes get beat up? Or
Speaker 1: are you aware of this thing where he pepper sprayed
Speaker 1: a woman who was banging on his door.
Speaker 16: I barely know who that dude is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really, you're not missing anything.
Speaker 1: He's he's the the leader of the gropers. Remember we
Speaker 1: talked about the gropers a while back.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm familiar that they plan on cause of trouble, this,
Speaker 16: that and the other thing. Yeah, I know about the
Speaker 16: gropers somehow.
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, fair enough, So that's what we were talking about, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: But whatever's on your mind, the floor is yours.
Speaker 16: Well my question is to chuck. What's you know? There's
Speaker 16: a lottery? Was enough of a bunch of jump And
Speaker 16: now every time I hear these commercials now somewhere somehow
Speaker 16: we're involved with New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan.
Speaker 5: What's that crap all about?
Speaker 16: Does that mean all of our money is all tied
Speaker 16: up together?
Speaker 1: Okay, the lottery thing you're probably talking about the powerball
Speaker 1: drawing for Saturday, which is at a billion dollars, right,
Speaker 1: is that what you're referencing? The billion dollar drawing?
Speaker 16: Pretty much anything lottery related. I just can't help but
Speaker 16: to notice that we somehow got we're part of some
Speaker 16: kind of interconnected system. Now, yeah, tell me where the
Speaker 16: quad state?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're not a quad state. It's bigger than that, unfortunately, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: What it is is that, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Power Ball's nation one. The power Ball is nationwide.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think it's in every state they'll be pete,
Speaker 1: but it's in almost all of them. The power Ball
Speaker 1: is one of two currently running interstate lotteries that involves
Speaker 1: more than one state. You know how like every state
Speaker 1: has like a big usually it's six or sometimes seven numbers.
Speaker 1: That's like you know, the million dollar jackpot or the
Speaker 1: two million dollar jackpot. It starts at and then it
Speaker 1: climbs if people don't win. Jimmy, Well, the power Ball
Speaker 1: is I think the oldest one because the Mega Millions
Speaker 1: came out when I was running convenience stores and was
Speaker 1: only in a few states. But they keep growing. They
Speaker 1: add it to the lottery systems in different states. And therefore,
Speaker 1: if you spend money on a powerball ticket, like I
Speaker 1: can buy it in Georgia, you can buy in Michigan.
Speaker 1: I'm sure bpet can buy it in North Carolina. But
Speaker 1: not every state has it.
Speaker 3: No, it's all forty five states, forty five states, District
Speaker 3: of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands. And
Speaker 3: it's overseen by the Multi State Lottery Association, which also
Speaker 3: has Mega Millions. There you go, which is the other
Speaker 3: one we have here in North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Right, so you got both in North Carolina. For years
Speaker 1: and years, New Jersey didn't have the power ball, but
Speaker 1: it had Mega Millions. And there used to be something
Speaker 1: that's a debunk game now called the Big Game, and
Speaker 1: that's over with. But this power ball is so hard
Speaker 1: to hit though that now it keeps climbing. It starts
Speaker 1: what does it start at? BPTE, do you know what
Speaker 1: the starting amount is for Powerball? It's like five or
Speaker 1: ten million?
Speaker 3: Oh strap, yeah, no, it's oh shit, what is it?
Speaker 1: Well, take a look at it?
Speaker 2: Let me scroll down here see if I can find it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look it up, because I think it's like between
Speaker 1: five and ten million dollars. And then you know, depending
Speaker 1: on how many people play, the jack pot goes up
Speaker 1: every time nobody hits the you know, the big prize.
Speaker 1: So this one for Saturday is currently over a billion
Speaker 1: dollars and you get something like if you take the
Speaker 1: cash payment, you know, you get less than half. With
Speaker 1: Powerball now used to get a little more than half,
Speaker 1: but you get less than half. And it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a one shot payment of like four hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty one million dollars. And the tickets would used to
Speaker 1: be a dollar or now two or three dollars, depending
Speaker 1: on how you play them. So this is just one
Speaker 1: of those things that has grown as the state lotteries
Speaker 1: have evolved over the years. And it's one of like,
Speaker 1: like B Pete said, one of two of these interstate
Speaker 1: lotteries that's overseen by its own commission, but still comes
Speaker 1: out of your local machine. So there you go. And
Speaker 1: it used to be by the way people would make
Speaker 1: trips to the state line and whatever, like when I
Speaker 1: lived in Jersey and people couldn't buy powerball tickets. When
Speaker 1: those you know, jackpots would hit like one hundred million,
Speaker 1: which was big in the nineties and in the early
Speaker 1: two thousands, people would derive from New Jersey and take
Speaker 1: orders from other people like how many powerball tickets do
Speaker 1: you want? And they'd go drive to Delaware, pull all
Speaker 1: their money together and say, okay, now we're all in
Speaker 1: it for one hundred million. Uh, stuff like this. People
Speaker 1: actually took road trips for it. You might as well
Speaker 1: buy cigarettes while you're there too, because Delaware cigarettes are cheaper.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the starting jackpot is twenty million, oh twenty
Speaker 3: then if nobody hits it, yeah, and if they nobody
Speaker 3: hits it, they add two million to the next.
Speaker 1: Drawing, right, and then it keeps going up. And then sometimes,
Speaker 1: like I say, when it's bigger, play like now, if
Speaker 1: nobody hits this billion, it'll probably go like, you know,
Speaker 1: one billion million or something like that, because the more
Speaker 1: the higher the jackpot goes, more people play it, you
Speaker 1: know how it is crazy. Yeah, and people can do it.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that makes that makes apples of sense to me
Speaker 16: that people play more when they're tough.
Speaker 5: They you lowering the odds by doing that.
Speaker 1: Well, No, the odds. Actually, that's.
Speaker 5: The curious thing.
Speaker 16: You rather wouldn't you rather have like a bunch of
Speaker 16: people win one million dollars instead of just one guy
Speaker 16: winning four hundred and whatever a million.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm with you, and there's smaller prizes, But Jimmy,
Speaker 1: the funny part about this is the odds don't actually
Speaker 1: change you no matter what. Have the same odds no
Speaker 1: matter how big the jackpot is. So whether it's a
Speaker 1: twenty million or a billion dollars, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: your odds are the same. I mean, it's practically like
Speaker 1: getting the combination exactly right is akin to like getting
Speaker 1: struck by lightning twice. But it can be done obviously,
Speaker 1: Otherwise we'd have, you know, a zillion dollar freaking power
Speaker 1: ball at this point. And I don't know what the
Speaker 1: largest jackpot in US history is, but it is over
Speaker 1: a billion.
Speaker 3: It's like two point one billion or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, and I actually have a ticket
Speaker 1: right in front of me, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I have a ticket right in front of me because
Speaker 1: missus O every time she sees this, you know, she
Speaker 1: goes and spends two dollars or whatever. So at least
Speaker 1: we can say we were a lot a lot of people.
Speaker 3: A lot of people won't even play it until the
Speaker 3: jackpot gets way on up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the odds are the same. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: just the odds are still the same no matter which
Speaker 1: way you go. You know, see that.
Speaker 16: I'm gonna have to figure that out because that confuses
Speaker 16: speak well.
Speaker 1: Because no matter what you still have, you have to
Speaker 1: come up with the right combination. And they're drawing in
Speaker 1: those you know, unless somebody's manipulating the balls. You know,
Speaker 1: you've seen a lottery drawing with the balls that come
Speaker 1: up in the in the machine, right.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean a long time a billiauh I remember
Speaker 16: that kind of methodology.
Speaker 1: Still, you know where they have these air balls bouncing
Speaker 1: around in a machine and then one of them pops
Speaker 1: up to the top. Okay, first numbers, This second number
Speaker 1: is that? I mean, you know, and these things are
Speaker 1: supposed to be highly regulated, so nobody cheats, but who knows,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah? And what oh is there? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming up next?
Speaker 16: I'm just gonna go out and ask questions about the bills.
Speaker 5: But I'll save it for uncle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, save that for uncle, and go ahead and get
Speaker 1: your shout out out and I'll get Aaron on late.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the time there be beat. Let's see,
Speaker 1: I am distracted. I'm sorry, but go ahead and get
Speaker 1: your last thought of the week out, Jimmy, since you
Speaker 1: had the floor, and we'll let Danny close it.
Speaker 16: Ah, shout up mister and missus America wherever you are.
Speaker 5: Peace, there you go.
Speaker 1: Jimmy's always got these great little like mic drop endings.
Speaker 1: I like that, to be honest with you, Dandy, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just feed each other with
Speaker 5: the as following up as Jimmy James, peace to everybody.
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