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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Dragon with an astonishing update on the World Trade

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<v Speaker 1>Center Building 7.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you realize that because of you, this city is

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<v Speaker 2>being overrun by baboons?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, isn't that the fault of the voters?

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie, do you have new conspiracies about Building 7? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that one was pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That the owner said pull it.

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<v Speaker 4>Pull it. Oh, Walter, good morning. How about that full

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<v Speaker 4>moon fever going on? Steve Cates, Dr. Sky, man, that's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And then how about these Nepalese floods? Have you looked

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<v Speaker 4>at this stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you realize that because of you, this city is

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<v Speaker 2>being overrun by baboons?

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<v Speaker 3>Well... Isn't that the fault of the voters?

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<v Speaker 1>But about Building 7.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir. I'll get right on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I apologize. I'm not going to miss.

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<v Speaker 1>You've upset the woman with the baboons.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you realize that because of you, this city is

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<v Speaker 2>being overrun by baboons?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, isn't that the fault of the voters?

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<v Speaker 1>Building 7, Eddie Dragon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir. Well, tonight, Walter, a new date has been

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<v Speaker 4>placed on one of the longest running cases in American history.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the man that U.S. prosecutors

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<v Speaker 4>have described as the principal architect of the September the

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<v Speaker 4>11th attacks. We're 15 days away. Big gala, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>memorializing September the 11th, the day we should never forget,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way. There's a schedule to go on trial.

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<v Speaker 4>This just coming out today before a military commission at Guantanamo,

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<v Speaker 4>June 5th, 2028. So a military judge, Walter rejected the

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<v Speaker 4>government's push for a January, 2027 start saying there is still,

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<v Speaker 4>still too much unresolved pretrial litigation. So arguments over evidence

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<v Speaker 4>procedure and the legal legacy of a case that has

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<v Speaker 4>been delayed for more than two decades, 27 years is

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<v Speaker 4>what the official number is going to be when it

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<v Speaker 4>finally gets underway in 2028. So Muhammad is, uh, expected

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<v Speaker 4>to be tried with three alleged co-conspirators, including Waleed bin Atash,

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<v Speaker 4>Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, and Mustafa Al Hawassawi. Now, the

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<v Speaker 4>date itself is staggering, of course, because the day that

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<v Speaker 4>we'll live forever, September 11, 2001, is now almost a generation,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe two behind us. And many Americans who were not

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<v Speaker 4>yet even born are to believe that mourning our adults today.

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<v Speaker 4>And The criminal case surrounding the attacks has still not

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<v Speaker 4>reached a verdict. And that long delay has helped keep

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<v Speaker 4>the questions alive. And some of the legal questions, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>can a military commission, I don't know, handle a case

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<v Speaker 4>this consequential at this point, nearly 30 years later? What

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<v Speaker 4>evidence is admissible after interrogations that involve torture? Can there

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<v Speaker 4>ever be an actual trial where the families of victims

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<v Speaker 4>regard as both legitimate and final? There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>other questions that have taken a very different form, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've become the territory of suspicion and distrust and

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<v Speaker 4>internet argument and conspiracy theories. And at the center of

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<v Speaker 4>all that is what we're going to talk about tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>Midnight Misfits, Walter, and that's the second category. 15 days

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<v Speaker 4>from September 11th, the 25th anniversary of that, sits World

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<v Speaker 4>Trade Center, Building 7. And at 5.20 that afternoon, depending

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<v Speaker 4>upon what you're watching, what you're seeing back then, 47-story

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<v Speaker 4>office tower north of the main World Trade Center WTC

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<v Speaker 4>complex collapsed, and it was not hit by an airplane.

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<v Speaker 4>The building had been damaged when the north tower came

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<v Speaker 4>down at 1028 that morning. Debris struck its south face,

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<v Speaker 4>and fires burned for hours on multiple floors. They were burning.

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<v Speaker 4>That is there. Water supplies compromised. course the fires could

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<v Speaker 4>not be effectively controlled and building seven fell millions of

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<v Speaker 4>people later saw the images and you know they all

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<v Speaker 4>asked the same questions that we all asked to this

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<v Speaker 4>very day how does a 47 story steel framed building

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<v Speaker 4>collapse in a way that to the untrained eye to

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<v Speaker 4>all of us looks almost like a planned demolition and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the question that has sustained building seven controversy now

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<v Speaker 4>for more than 25 years and It's worth being really

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<v Speaker 4>precise about all this and what is known, what's alleged,

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<v Speaker 4>and what has not been proven as of yet. And

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<v Speaker 4>Building 7 was not some sort of obscure structure. It

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<v Speaker 4>was actually completed significantly later, 15 years later than the WTC, 1987.

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<v Speaker 4>It was home to major commercial tenants, Solomon Smith Barney.

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<v Speaker 4>It also housed government offices, something that has become you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the central argument in all of this. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's other notable three-letter federal agencies, of course. And some rumored,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, this is not all real, okay? People

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<v Speaker 4>have said, you know, of course the IRS was in there.

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<v Speaker 4>You had the SEC, Security and Exchange Commission there. What

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<v Speaker 4>was not in there was the CIA, by the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Other government tenants included the U.S. Secret Service, however. And

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<v Speaker 4>that is not of course a three letter acronym, but

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<v Speaker 4>the EEOC, the equal employment opportunity commission, all these offices

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<v Speaker 4>that were there, the city's office of emergency management specifically

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<v Speaker 4>was located there. Contemporary reports actually identified those agencies and

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<v Speaker 4>the defense department related operations also in that building. But

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<v Speaker 4>you'll often hear people say that the CIA, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 4>had an office in there. That claim has been circulated

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<v Speaker 4>all over the place, right? Online documentaries everywhere. And it

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<v Speaker 4>is not included in the actual federal tenant list at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day. So why does this tenant

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<v Speaker 4>list matter to conspiracy theorists? And why do people keep

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<v Speaker 4>going to this, right? There's something to hide there. That's,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, because the IRS, the SEC are connected to

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<v Speaker 4>the public mind, to taxes, regulation, corporate power, financial records, investigations.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people benefited from the World Trade Center's coming down.

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<v Speaker 4>Some proponents have actually argued that the building's collapse conveniently

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed sensitive files, evidence. Others have also pointed to the

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<v Speaker 4>presence of, I don't know, security offices in that Building 7.

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<v Speaker 4>It must have been more important, and that's why they

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<v Speaker 4>had to have the building come down. But the existence

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<v Speaker 4>of government tenants, Walter, is not by itself evidence that

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<v Speaker 4>the building was deliberately destroyed. Office buildings in lower Manhattan

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<v Speaker 4>routinely house government agencies alongside banks and law firms and

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<v Speaker 4>brokers and private companies, etc. But the central conspiracy claim

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<v Speaker 4>is not really about those tenants, is it? It's about

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<v Speaker 4>the collapse. And you go and you look at the

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<v Speaker 4>video and you watch the video and you say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>how does a building come down that quickly? That controlled,

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<v Speaker 4>quote unquote, demolition argument goes a little bit like this.

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<v Speaker 4>And the midnight misfits can, you know, Correct me on

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<v Speaker 4>any of this because everyone has their own version of that.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't because they're drunk. They're not going to call

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<v Speaker 1>and correct you. You're just going to be out there

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<v Speaker 1>all on your own with this theory.

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<v Speaker 4>Just me. I'm hanging out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I was in Manhattan when this all happened

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<v Speaker 1>and I watched that building and I saw that building. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there were fires in the building on one floor in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. The slow burning fire and never in history.

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<v Speaker 1>has a steel-framed skyscraper come down from a fire.

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<v Speaker 4>That building accelerated at free fall acceleration pace. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>if you drop a ball next to it, it would

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<v Speaker 4>drop at exactly the same pace. So you, of course, Walter,

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<v Speaker 4>by suggesting what you're suggesting, are saying that there's more

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<v Speaker 4>likely a controlled demolition involved in building number seven. But

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<v Speaker 4>The National Institute for Standards and Technology, because all these

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<v Speaker 4>architects and engineers, the architects for truth, you know, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>have all like sort of, you know, come forward with

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<v Speaker 4>all of this, right? You know, they're doing their very

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<v Speaker 4>best to kind of uncover what's there. But critics have

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<v Speaker 4>said that the means of the building structure must have

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<v Speaker 4>been removed almost instantly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the argument.

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<v Speaker 4>They highlighted that. a comment by a leaseholder, Larry Silverstein,

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<v Speaker 4>in a 2002 television documentary, where he said, quote, decided

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<v Speaker 4>to pull it, as you stated at the very beginning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>let's pull it, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's even video of him on the phone with

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<v Speaker 1>some foreman, and they were spelling out the problems to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, well, we should pull it. There's video

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<v Speaker 1>of him saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's out there. Everyone's looking at this. But You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's an alternative reading to all this, Walter, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>that Silverstein was actually referring to pulling the firefighters away

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<v Speaker 4>from the unsafe building.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you buy that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because he said pull it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, behind Silverstein's representatives and what they've given in all

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<v Speaker 4>of this, that's all there. But there's one very important clip,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's the BBC clip. On the afternoon of 9-11,

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<v Speaker 4>BBC News mistakenly reported ahead of time that Building 7

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<v Speaker 4>had collapsed while the building was still at that time

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<v Speaker 4>standing in the background of that live shot, Walter. So

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the official investigations say, we still don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 4>still a lot of mystery around all this. And what

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<v Speaker 4>say you?

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<v Speaker 1>Tremendous mystery around it. Eddie Dragon with an update on

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<v Speaker 1>Building 7 World Trade Center. Terrifying story. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>being on the other side of Midnight.