1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,080 In this episode, we're gonna dive right back into the 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:13,240 Johanna Schoberg deposition and pick up where we left off. Menager, 4 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:16,519 I believe you saw in the police report a reference 5 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:19,519 to a friend of Jeffrey named Glenn and his wife. 6 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:25,679 Answer uh huh. Manager, do you remember them? Answer vaguely, Menager, 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Tell me what you remember. Answer? I remember they had 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,479 an apartment in on Breaker's Row. I went up there 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,039 and massaged. It may have been more than once, but 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,799 I only really remember one time, but there was nothing sexual. Menager, 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,079 neither with the wife nor with Glenn. Answer right, Menager, 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,640 do you remember the apartment? Answer? I only remember that 13 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:52,399 I had to carry my massage table up some stairs. Manager, 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,719 So you actually gave the massage on a massage table? 15 00:00:56,039 --> 00:00:59,479 Answer yes, Menager. Does that help you place it in 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,600 time as to when that might have occurred? In other words, 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,280 did you get your massage license at some point and 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,920 a massage table? McCauley objection Back to Schoburg. Yes, he 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,959 bought me my massage table around the time that I 20 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:16,599 went to massage school, so it could have been any 21 00:01:16,599 --> 00:01:19,760 time after that if I thought really hard, I could 22 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:22,120 remember when I went to school, but I want to 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,400 say it's around two thousand and three. Menager, Nothing sexual 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,400 happened with Glenn? Answer no, Menager. Did Glenn ask you 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,840 to give him a massage on the floor of the home? 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,159 Answer I don't recall. Menager. Did you ever discuss Glenn 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,519 with Virginia? Answer not to my recollection. Menager. Did you 28 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:45,640 ever go to Virginia's home? Answer no, Menager. Do you 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,120 know where she lived? Answer no? Manager. Did she talk 30 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:53,319 about it? Answer not that I remember. Menager. Did you 31 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:56,400 see anything in your interactions with Virginia that led you 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,840 to believe that she was a sex slave? McCauley objection, 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,920 show burg ancers, No, Menager. Did you see anyone forcing 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,680 her to remain in the home? Answer no, Menager. Did 35 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:11,840 you see her look traumatized at some point? McCauley objection, 36 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:16,080 show burg ancers. No, Menager. Did you see anything that 37 00:02:16,159 --> 00:02:19,199 led you to believe Virginia Roberts had been trafficked sexually 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,879 trafficked to a third party? McCauley objection, witness no, Menager. 39 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:27,840 Did Virginia ever tell you that she had been trafficked? 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Answer no. McCauley objection. Manager, did you hear anyone direct 41 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,319 Virginia Roberts to go have sex with someone? Answer no, menager. 42 00:02:38,599 --> 00:02:40,960 Did Jeffrey ever ask you to go have sex with 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,800 another person? Answer no, menager. Did Glenn Maxwell ever ask 44 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:50,159 you to go have sex with another person? Answer no, menager. 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Did Glenn Maxwell ever ask you to give a massage 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,479 to someone else? Answer no, menager. Did Glenn Maxwell ever 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,000 ask you to dress up in any outfits? Answer no? Manager. 48 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:04,479 Did she ever buy you an outfit for you to 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,199 wear in terms of a sexual profile? Answer no. Manager. 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Did she tell you what kind of clothes you should buy? 51 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:15,120 Answer no? Manager. Did she direct you to go get 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Brazilian bikini waxes? Answer no manager. Did she direct you 53 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,560 to go get your teeth whitened? Answer no Manager. I 54 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,080 would like to mark as an exhibit I have no 55 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:30,520 recollection what number we're on? Exhibit five. The refer to 56 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:34,759 document was marked by the court reporter for identification as 57 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Shoberg Exhibit five. Manager. Have you seen this article before? Answer? 58 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,439 It has followed me everywhere. McCauley. I'm sorry. Can I 59 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,879 just ask you to put the bait's number on the record? Manager, sure, 60 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,439 it's Baits marked Roberts one one three one through one 61 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,639 one three eight. Menager, what do you mean that it 62 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,919 has followed you everywhere? Answer well, if you google me, 63 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,479 it comes up. Manager. I wanted to just ask you 64 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,159 a couple of questions. On the third page, towards the bottom, 65 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,159 there's a photograph that begins we had a picture taken 66 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:10,240 and just to orient you, this is in the discussion 67 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,360 around the Prince Andrew meeting you had. Did Prince Andrew 68 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:16,279 at any other time besides the time you already described 69 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,399 in your testimony? Answer no, Menager. If you want to 70 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:22,319 take a look at the paragraph before I ask you 71 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,879 a question, answer okay, Menager. In that paragraph it describes 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,680 that Andrew Virginia sat on the chair, and then Andrew 73 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,199 sat on another chair and you sat on his lap. 74 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,199 McCauley objection, Manager, is that what it says? Answer that's 75 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:40,000 what it says, Menager. Do you recall telling that to 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,920 the reporter? Answer yes, Menager, and this was back in 77 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,680 two thousand and seven or so. Answer yes, Manager, As 78 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,360 you sit here today, does that make it? Does that 79 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:54,439 refresh your recollection that Virginia was sitting in one chair 80 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,120 and you were sitting in another with Andrew. Answer yeah, 81 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:00,720 if I said that, then I remember that. I'm just 82 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,040 trying to remember whether we were on a couch or 83 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:05,519 on a chair. I just remember the boob's part, the 84 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,959 hand on the boobs. Menager. I understand that that part 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 stands out, and I also completely understand if you don't 86 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,720 remember things that happened a long time ago. Answer right, Menager. 87 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,240 I'm just wondering if, having looked at this news article, 88 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,680 it refreshes your memory that Virginia was sitting in a 89 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,560 different place. Answer in a different chair? Menager? Does it? Answer? 90 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,160 It does? Say that Does it refresh my memory? Menager? Okay, 91 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,920 that's fine? Answer yeah, sure, menager. If it doesn't, it doesn't. 92 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:38,839 I'm just asking, did Virginia say anything to you about 93 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:41,839 having met Prince Andrew before this time in New York? 94 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,519 McAuley objection. Answer, she did not say, Menager. Did Prince 95 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,759 Andrews say or do anything that led you to believe 96 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,720 that he had met Virginia prior to that time? Answer 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,120 I don't recall. Mener. Did you ever see al Gore 98 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:59,279 on the island? Answer? No, Manager, did you ever see 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,360 his wife Tipper on the Island. Answer no, Manager. What 100 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:06,319 is your understanding of what the lawsuit we are here 101 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,040 today is about. Answer I understand that Glaine is calling 102 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,519 Virginia a liar, and so Glaine is suing Virginia. I'm sorry, 103 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:19,959 strike that reverse it right. Virginia is suing Golaine for defamation. Manager, 104 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:22,839 And do you know what Virginia said about Colaine? Answer 105 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:26,439 that Glaine recruited her, Menager. Do you know anything else 106 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,759 that Virginia said about Colaine? Answer only what was spoken 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,079 to me, Menager, And I should clarify. Don't tell me 108 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,040 anything your lawyer has conveyed to you. Answer exactly, That's 109 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:41,680 all I know. I've met with Virginia once last summer. Meninger, Okay, 110 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:44,959 tell me about that. Answer she there was a moderator 111 00:06:44,959 --> 00:06:48,040 between us, like an investigator, and she was in Palm Beach, 112 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,800 and it was about Jeffrey. It was less about Golaine. 113 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,319 I don't remember specifically about Colaine at all. Menager. So 114 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:58,519 you met with Virginia and an investigator at the same time, 115 00:06:58,759 --> 00:07:02,920 Answer yes, Menager, And they were what talking to you 116 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,399 about Jeffrey in context? McAuley objection Showberg answers Basically, they 117 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:10,720 were trying to find people that would help her get 118 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,319 her story out, because this is when Dershowitz. Dershowitz was 119 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,399 saying nothing was happening, and he was calling her a liar, 120 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:19,480 and she was just trying to find people to back 121 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:23,240 up her story. Menager. And what did you understand her 122 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,560 story to be? Did she tell you? Answer that she 123 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,040 was recruited to give massages, sexual massages and have sex 124 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:33,319 with people such as Dershowitz and Andrew, But I knew 125 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:36,399 none of that at the time, Menager, Right, did you 126 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:39,759 tell them anything? Did you tell them during that meeting 127 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,839 that you knew of anything about her being recruited to 128 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:47,720 give sex to either Jeffrey or other people? McAuley objection, Shoeburg, 129 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,120 can you rephrase, Menager? Yes, that wasn't a very good question. 130 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:54,000 What did you say during this meeting with Virginia and 131 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,680 her investigator? Answer? Basically that I believed her, even though 132 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,560 I she never spoke to me specifically about what was 133 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,240 going on that once I learned everything that had happened 134 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:06,199 based on reading the police report, I believed her side 135 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:09,519 of the story. Menager. And did she tell you what 136 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,800 her side of the story was? Answer? You know it's 137 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:15,199 just that she wasn't a liar. That you know she 138 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:18,040 was there to have sex with men that Jeffrey wanted 139 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:21,279 her to sleep with. Menager. Did she tell you in 140 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:24,519 that meeting who she had sex with? Answer no, Menager. 141 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:27,480 Did she name any of the famous people? Answer only 142 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:31,120 Dershowitz came up, Menainger. Did you to talk about the 143 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,399 incident in New York with the puppet? Answer? I don't recall, Menager. 144 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,080 And you formed this opinion about whether she was a 145 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,559 liar based on things that you've read in the police 146 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,360 report mcauleay objection, Schoberg. I formed my opinion based on 147 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,200 my experience in the house, Meninger, okay, And what experience 148 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,559 in the house help you form your opinion that what 149 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:55,360 Virginia is saying is true? Answer? You know Jeffrey being 150 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:58,039 open with me about what other girls did for him, 151 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,000 and that I was not one of theirs. He was 152 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:04,000 always trying to recruit me, almost in any way he could, 153 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,600 so that I could be one of them and travel 154 00:09:06,639 --> 00:09:09,320 with him and live this life of luxury, if I only, 155 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,320 if I only did this. So after five years of 156 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,639 learning what was happening, I can look back knowing I 157 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,519 only know Virginia for a very short time. Looking back, 158 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,120 I can make assumptions about what was required of her. Manager. 159 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,799 Did she tell you how old she was when she 160 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,799 started working with Jeffrey? Answer she didn't. Manager. Did she 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,360 tell you how long she had worked with Jeffrey? Answer no. Manager. 162 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,919 Have you read all the things that have been attributed 163 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,679 to her in the press? Answer many of them? McAuley Objection, Schoberg, 164 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,279 I don't know what I've read all of them, but 165 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,000 i've read some. Manager. In this meeting with Virginia and 166 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:50,960 the investigator, you said Glenn Maxwell did not come up. 167 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:55,399 Answer not that, not that, I recall. Manager. Do you 168 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,840 know the name of the investigator? Answer Valerie Rivera. Menager, 169 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:02,519 Have you read the statement that Glenn Maxwell issued to 170 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,559 the press? Answer no, Manager. Do you know what it says? 171 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,559 Answer no. Menager. You said you have read some of 172 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:13,000 Virginia's statements to the press, but not all of them. 173 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:15,679 Answer I don't know how many there are. I know 174 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:19,480 I read something. I don't know if I read them all. Manager. 175 00:10:19,799 --> 00:10:24,320 Have you read her book manuscript? Answer no. McCauley objection, Manager, 176 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,960 did she tell you she was writing a book? Answer no, Manager. 177 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,840 Did she tell you she was trying to get a 178 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,519 book deal? McCauley objection, Shoburg answer is no. Manager. Did 179 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,519 she tell you that she hired a ghostwriter? Answer no. 180 00:10:38,879 --> 00:10:42,240 McCauley objection, Manager, did she tell you she hired a 181 00:10:42,279 --> 00:10:47,600 literary agent? McCauley objection, Witness, no manager. Did you speak 182 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:51,759 with John Connolly? Answer yes, Manager. When did you speak 183 00:10:51,759 --> 00:10:55,000 with John Connolly? Answer? He was first calling me around 184 00:10:55,039 --> 00:10:57,480 the time that everything was coming out in two thousand 185 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,480 and six. I didn't say a lot to him, but 186 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,759 I did say a few things, and I asked him 187 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:03,919 not to use my name, and he used my name, 188 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:06,399 and then he quoted me as saying things that I 189 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,559 never said. Manager, And do you know who he quoted 190 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,120 things that you have never said to answer, I don't 191 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:19,039 remember the news outlet, No manager, So it was published somewhere. 192 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:23,440 Answer somewhere on the internet. McCauley. Something that you said 193 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,799 to John Connolly got twisted? Answer Yes, he put words 194 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:31,159 in my mouth, manager, and it was misreported and published. 195 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,879 McCauley objection Witness correct, Manager. Have you spoken to him lately? 196 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,159 Answer no. He called me again at the beginning of 197 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,440 last year, around New year's last year, but I did 198 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,799 not return his call. Manager, Do you recall what it 199 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,679 is he attributed to you falsely? Answer? It was mostly 200 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,480 about how I felt about certain things. I don't remember 201 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,720 specifically what he said, but he was giving an opinion 202 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:00,519 for me that I never spoke to him about, and 203 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,720 you did not hold. Answer Well, I can't remember what 204 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:07,639 it was, yeah, Menager. Okay, do you know whether Virginia 205 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,080 has lied about any of her experience? McCauley objection the witness. 206 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,159 I don't know that she has lied, Menager. Do you 207 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,679 know that she has told the truth? Answer? As far 208 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,279 as I know, she has. Menager. Do you know whether 209 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,600 the press is accurately reported everything that Virginia has said? 210 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:30,840 McCauley objection, Schoberg. I don't know, Menager. Other than John 211 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,600 Connolly and the police, who else have you spoken to 212 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,399 about your experience? Answer? Well, the woman from the deli 213 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,559 mal Her name is Wendy Lee manager, and that's defendants 214 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,799 Exhibit five, not defendant's exhibit just exhibit five. Correct. Answer correct, Menager. 215 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:52,279 Did Wendy Lee or Lay accurately report your statements? Answer? 216 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:54,960 She did a little bit of embellishment as well. But 217 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,240 the facts are all true, Menager? And what parts do 218 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:01,320 you believe are embellished? Answer near the end when she 219 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,399 was doing a summary, when she wrote, sure, I had 220 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,120 a good time, but I also think it damaged me 221 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:10,120 a bit. I don't recall saying that. And there's another 222 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:12,399 part in there where she said I said that I 223 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,759 made a deal with the devil, which I never would 224 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:18,559 have said that. The word she used, Menager on page 225 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,960 two of eight, it's about even with the hem of 226 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,919 your skirt. Answer, I made a pack with the devil 227 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,879 in exchange for excitement and glamour. I was only a 228 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:31,080 college student. I was hard up and foolish. That I 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,919 never said any of that. I was a college student. 230 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 That's true, hard up and foolish. I would have never 231 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,720 called myself foolish. Menager? Were you paid for this? Answer? 232 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,799 I was paid fifteen hundred dollars Menager? And how long 233 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,480 did the interview last? Answer? A couple of hours? Menager. 234 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,879 Where did it take place? Answer at Cafe blued in 235 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:55,840 the Brazilian Court Hotel in Palm Beach. Manager who else 236 00:13:55,879 --> 00:13:58,879 besides one d Lee and John Connolly and the police 237 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,759 McAuley objection Menager and Virginia and the investigator McCauley objection. 238 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:10,279 Did you talk to about your experiences? Answer? Family and friends. Menager? 239 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:13,519 Did you speak to any other reporters? Answer? I had 240 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,919 other reporters calling me. I avoided most of all their calls. 241 00:14:17,039 --> 00:14:19,679 I had someone coming at me, stalking me. I don't 242 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,399 know who he was. He offered me twenty five thousand 243 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,759 dollars to give a story, and I turned him down. Menager. 244 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:30,000 Who answer? He shut up in my work multiple times? Menager? 245 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,679 There were other stories printed in the Daily Mail, but 246 00:14:32,919 --> 00:14:35,360 not by Wen delay later. Did you see any of 247 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,840 those stories? I'm sorry. Let me be a little clearer. 248 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:42,679 They attributed comments to you. Answer I don't recall specifically, 249 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:44,559 but I feel like I stayed on top of it 250 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,240 and I wasn't surprised when my name was brought up. Menager. 251 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Do you recall giving another interview? Answer? No? Never. Menager. 252 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,399 Do you recall saying anything that was printed other than 253 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,840 John Connolly thing that you believed to be an accurate? Answer? No? 254 00:14:59,639 --> 00:15:02,519 Men Was there anybody else present when you were interviewing 255 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:06,159 with Wendy? Answer? No? Manager. Was she recording it on 256 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,000 a recorder? Answer? Yes, manager? Have you ever heard that 257 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:14,039 recording answer no, Manager. Do you know whether the police 258 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:18,080 were recording their interview with you? Answer yes, Manager, have 259 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,559 you heard that recording? Answer no? All right, we're gonna 260 00:15:21,559 --> 00:15:23,600 wrap this episode up right here, and in the next 261 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,639 episode we'll pick up where we left off. 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