WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:03.919 And nine Cognition. 2 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:13.359 Five four three two one zero, All engine running. 3 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.239 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. 4 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:28.000 It's time for Ignition with the a W fan Hub 5 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:29.280 podcast team. 6 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:31.160 This is Kelson. 7 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:34.679 And it's me. It's me. It's the VI b E. 8 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:37.840 That's right, shades the vibe here. We're gonna take a 9 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:41.119 look at some of the goings on this week and 10 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.320 only wrestling, and we're gonna start with the big event 11 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.920 coming up in London at the O two this weekend, 12 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:51.359 Forbidden Door. What do you guys think should be the 13 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:52.679 main event of that show? 14 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:57.520 Yeah, that's a pretty good question because you could argue 15 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:02.039 that honestly, Tony Storm and Athena. For me, I really 16 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:03.960 think Tony Storm and Athena should be the main event. 17 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.359 It's about time the women got a main event. And frankly, 18 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.079 I don't know about the rest of you guys, but 19 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.959 I kind of think like Hangman and MJF is not 20 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:13.079 too much in doubt. 21 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:15.920 Logically, I'm gonna say it's gonna be the lights out match, 22 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:19.319 but I do feel like Athena versus them would be 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:19.760 the best. 24 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.879 Yeah, that sounds like logical now that I think about it. 25 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.799 With the lights out match going last, because like, then, 26 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.319 what are they going to do after the match is 27 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.480 over if it doesn't go last, turn the lights back 28 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:30.439 on for the rest of it. 29 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:32.840 Well, that's not how the lights out match works. They 30 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:34.000 don't wrestle the dark. 31 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:43.280 I know that. 32 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:45.879 It didn't take you long to say something weird. 33 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:54.959 Goodness, Oh my goodness. I'm looking forward to Athena and 34 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.280 Tony as well. I think that's gonna be the best 35 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:03.120 match there and it's just gonna be great. I'm so 36 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:05.280 happy to see women's wrestling. 37 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:09.599 Just top tier. Yeah kay, what are your thoughts about it? 38 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:13.639 Honestly, if there was ever a time, I do agree 39 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.919 that the women should main event at some point, but 40 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.520 if they were ever gonna do it, it should have 41 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.280 been the all in match, should be get They put 42 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.000 them second with Mariah May and Tony Storm, like that 43 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.800 felt the most obvious for a main event women's main event, 44 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:28.759 But this time around, I'm going to go with the 45 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.879 the lights out match because, like we just said, like 46 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.039 you can't turn them back on again. That breaks the 47 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.000 drama for me too. That's my favorite part is like 48 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.159 this is now unsanctioned. When the lights turn off and 49 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.120 come back on, again, this is no like you know, 50 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:43.520 that kills the drama if it's not the main event. 51 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:46.719 Max, do you have any thoughts on this? 52 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:51.800 Ill, the lights out match has to go last because 53 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:57.120 it's a big stipulation match, and it it makes the 54 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:58.719 most sense to close. 55 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.080 Well Shades bring us home. 56 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:09.240 Well, I agree that it makes the most sense for 57 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.120 the lights out match to go last. However, if it 58 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:17.800 were me, and because this is a forbidden Door, because 59 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:23.120 we're trying to, you know, play up the ties between 60 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:27.439 AW and New Japan Pro Wrestling, I would put Ocata 61 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:32.479 and Swerve in the main event because Okada is probably, 62 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:36.280 even though he is signed to AW now, he's probably 63 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:40.000 the biggest star New Japan Pro Wrestling has had in 64 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.199 the past twenty years and so or at least the 65 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.840 last fifteen years for sure, And I think that it 66 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.960 would it sort of would fall within the spirit of 67 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:55.280 what Forbidden Door is supposed to be. Now, it won't 68 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.680 be the main event, but I wouldn't be surprised if 69 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:59.080 it's the best match on the card. 70 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:01.520 Yeah. 71 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.800 Nizzy in the uh in the chat is saying that 72 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.159 she's leaning towards lights out match too, but she'd be 73 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.919 happy with Athena and Tony Storm. 74 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:14.560 So where are we going next here? 75 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.639 I have one more thing to add. Let me add 76 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.079 I I agree that MJF and Hangman should not be 77 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.279 the main event because this will not this is not 78 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.279 the end of their feud, so I see this as 79 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:40.759 just another step in their story. Uh, let's talk about well, 80 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.000 let's just go on. Let's go to predictions now. Actually, 81 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:49.360 we we've got the card pretty much finalized, so let's 82 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:56.959 start with the aw World Tag Team Championship. The Hurt 83 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.480 Syndicate takes on the winners of f We are in 84 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.759 Brodido and since we're doing this before the shows this week, 85 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:06.920 we're gonna have to sort of predict who's gonna win 86 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:10.439 between FTR and Brodido. I'll go first on that. I 87 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:14.600 think FTR is gonna win, and I think FTR will 88 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.600 be your new World Tag Team Champions. 89 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:19.720 I hope not. 90 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.519 You know, I'm gonna say this because last week last year, 91 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:29.920 we had the same situation with FTR winning a match 92 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:33.199 to become the not winning. 93 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.480 They actually had a match. 94 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.800 With the acclaimed and the winner would go on to 95 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.279 all In. At that point, because remember all In was 96 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:50.600 in in August and the match actually went to a draw, 97 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.199 and so both FTR and Acclaimed made it too all 98 00:05:55.240 --> 00:06:00.160 in in a three way, and I just don't want 99 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:02.800 to see the same thing happening again. I mean, we 100 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.519 did a poll on the aw fathob subreddit and it 101 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.319 was kind of right down the line. Broddo was the 102 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:13.839 heart pick and FTR was the head pick. 103 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:19.879 Yeah, yeah, for sure I saw that, uh, which I 104 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.720 didn't even think about. Nizzi said that FTR loses due 105 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.439 to cope interference. I think, and I could definitely see 106 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:29.279 that happening, you know, yeah, because I really I also 107 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.399 just really don't want FTR to get over. I want 108 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.959 Brody to to make it. I want body like if anybody, 109 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.639 you know, I want to see Tag Team gold Lot 110 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:41.319 again would be uh brody, you know like I, or 111 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:44.079 a title on again would be brody like I. You know, 112 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.240 I don't want to see FTR make it to the 113 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.839 end this time, and I would prefer a cope interference. 114 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:53.759 Who's dex who has another who has their own pick? Mkay, 115 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:54.439 let's go to you. 116 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.839 Uh you know, I I really want some fresh blood 117 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:05.920 in there and be Brodido there's I think FTR has 118 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.000 their own issues. Going on, and they don't need the 119 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.680 titles right now, so Brodida would be great to put 120 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.040 it on, and it'd be a whole heck of a 121 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:16.600 lot of a good match for two big teams to 122 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.279 go after each other. And said, because really, if you 123 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:24.959 look at it, Hurstinicett hasn't faced very many big, big 124 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:32.160 guys like big and agile guys like they have with Brodido, right. 125 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.000 I also keep in mind also that MVP did say 126 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.480 an interview a couple months ago that he wanted Hurt 127 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.560 Syndicett to lose the titles to a younger team. Well, 128 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.480 FTR is definitely not the younger team, and I think 129 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.040 he also met by younger team is somebody that maybe 130 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.160 he has never done it before, you know, and let's 131 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.279 just get somebody new in there. And Brodido is definitely 132 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:58.879 a new team. Net Let's get your thoughts on this, 133 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:10.120 I guess, and that isn't with us. 134 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:11.480 Max. Do you have the thoughts on this? 135 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:16.959 Yeah, I mean Roddo would give hurd Sin the kid. 136 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:21.160 It would be different because of course Brodido is a 137 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.879 bigger team. They're bigger guys than what the hurts in 138 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.560 the kids you've been facing as a voight, So I. 139 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.000 Think it would be a good I think you would 140 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:31.079 have good chemistry, and I think it would be a 141 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:31.879 good sweeper man. 142 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:36.799 Yeah, what about you? What about you, Jess? 143 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:43.679 Yeah, I'm going with Broddo too. I think it would 144 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.919 be the coolest precioust pick they could make. I don't 145 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.279 I know better than to put all my like to 146 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:52.960 bet on the fact that's going to happen, but I 147 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:54.000 really hope that it does. 148 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:57.559 I would like to I would like to justify my 149 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:04.320 FTR pick very quickly because I think one of the reasons, 150 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:09.720 like non k Thabe Adam Clopland came to AW is 151 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:13.399 to have a run with Christian Cage, And I think 152 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:16.639 they are going to defeat FTR and they're going to 153 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:21.519 retire as the World Taging Champions's that's what I believe 154 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:25.440 is gonna happen. So that's sort of why I think 155 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:27.679 they beat FTR to get those belts. 156 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:31.919 Yeah, you know, while here's my reasoning for what I said, 157 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:35.679 not FTR is because look, WWE is currently doing their 158 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:38.440 twenty twenty five Nostalgia Tour where they got forty eight 159 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.200 and fifty year olds going at it on the main 160 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:43.360 events of their shows. We don't need that in aaw 161 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.679 You could do Christian Cage and Copeland against FDR in 162 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.399 a non title match, and I'm non title feud if 163 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.519 you want, and it would be just as good. I 164 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:57.080 don't think you really need I agree with that, you know, 165 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.519 net Let's see if you can. 166 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.279 Okay, Okay, good? 167 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:06.279 Sorry, I think I lost my WiFi. I was outside 168 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.360 and came back in the house. I was saying that 169 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.960 I'd like to see Brodito win. I think that Brody 170 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:19.120 King needs some gold and I'm honestly a bit tired 171 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:24.279 of FTR in general, so I'd like to see it 172 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:25.039 on Brodido. 173 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:26.960 That's my choice. 174 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.120 Okay, Well, we just had Steve and Sleazy join us, 175 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.480 so let's go to Sleazy. We're talking about who do 176 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.039 we think is going to win the FTR and Brodido 177 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:42.759 match go on to face hurt Syndicate in Afterbidden Door. Also, 178 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:45.159 do you think that that team would be able to 179 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.879 beat Hurt Syndicate because none of us have actually said 180 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:48.360 that yet. 181 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:56.080 Well, I think Brodnido's going to win pure leave from 182 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.960 Adam and Copeland interference, and as for whether or not 183 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:04.080 they could beat the Hurts and get they could go 184 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:07.919 either way because the Hurts ind get they have giant, 185 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:12.720 massive muscles. Okay, that is a really hard quality to 186 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.799 get over. But I believe that Brodido could potentially pull 187 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.679 off the upset of the century. 188 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:23.279 Okay, let's go to Steve and see what you think. 189 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:31.120 I'm gonna have to say, FTR, they I think as 190 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:34.879 a tag team they work together fine, but I do 191 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.559 see yeah, Edge could come in and like Edge. 192 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:48.639 Or Adam Coplan, Yeah yeah, I'm so used to saying 193 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:57.559 is w name, Like I can see him like, yeah, yeah, 194 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.279 they like he could like come in and like just 195 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:04.000 like mess with them, kind of throw them off their 196 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.639 game and lose that way. I can see that happening. 197 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:10.720 But I think FTR because they're just they're more mistuh 198 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.919 established tag team. 199 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:16.159 Just gonna throw this out here. 200 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.039 Let me let me throw this out here because a 201 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.480 lot of people didn't say what their pick was for 202 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:27.600 forbidden or do you think that the winner of the 203 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:32.960 Brodido and FTR match is going to beat the Hurt 204 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.480 Syndicate real quick? 205 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:42.039 Yes or no? Yes? No, yep, no, yep. 206 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.320 It was like like the mented choir, That's what this 207 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:53.320 sounded like. 208 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.039 That just killed me. I don't know why. 209 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:01.120 F tr FTR gets over. I hope that they don't 210 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.960 get over on the his Hurt syndicate. But if Bronino 211 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:07.279 gets over, obviously I would I imagine that they would 212 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:07.639 get over. 213 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.360 I think I think they're trying to tease Brodido a 214 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:14.600 little bit, in my opinion, have them get close close, 215 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:17.919 kind of like they claimed where they claim should have 216 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:21.679 won because they're so over with swerving our glory or 217 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.320 whatever their name was with Keith Lee, but they didn't. 218 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:29.679 So maybe they dangle dangle the carrot in front of 219 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:30.919 us and see how we're you're act. 220 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:32.840 I'm cool with that too. 221 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:34.360 It's Jade. 222 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:39.799 What's sticking with the tag teams. We have the aforementioned 223 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:46.320 Adam Copeland and Christian Cage taking on I guess the 224 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:50.639 matriarchy at this point, Kip Sabian and Nick Wayne in 225 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:56.440 a grudge match, and I don't see there's any chance 226 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.080 of Copeland and Cage not winning this match. 227 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.360 So I thought you were going to say something different. 228 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:04.399 I was like, wow, no, I agree with you, Shades. 229 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.840 There's no way that cop and Cage aren't going to 230 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:10.519 win this match. Yeah, I agree, you have a better 231 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:14.480 chance of Cage turning on Copeland than you do them 232 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:15.360 losing this match. 233 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.320 Do you imagine? 234 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:25.519 All right, I think we have a consensus on that one. 235 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.759 We'll go to another match that I think there's going 236 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:37.080 to be a consensus on the TBS Championship four way 237 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.919 with champion Mercedes Monet representing a w Persephone representing CMLL 238 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:50.320 Alex Windsor and do we know who is representing Stardom yet? 239 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:55.639 No, but I will say this is that. Well, tomorrow morning, 240 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.759 early in the morning, Uh, the five Star will be 241 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:02.759 comple leaded the playoff and the quarter finals of the 242 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:04.120 five Star will be completed. 243 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.200 Eight Stardom wrestlers will. 244 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.039 Be eliminated by I don't know nine am Eastern time 245 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.559 tomorrow morning. Well, actually before that, I'm thinking after that 246 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:22.279 show tomorrow morning that Stardom may introduce who it's going 247 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.240 to be. I thought it would be sure. But if 248 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:27.399 it's surey, there's no reason why they couldn't announce it 249 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.919 by now, so I kind of else. 250 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:34.759 Honestly, I don't think it matters because Mercedes Money is 251 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:39.360 going to retain her title, right, no windsor not. 252 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.679 I'm joking, but yeah, definitely Money is going to get away, like, 253 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:44.000 no doubt about it at this point. 254 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.840 Yeah, it's it's moment. 255 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:51.639 Forbid and stop the money training guys. She wears her 256 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.679 belts like a skirt like it's. 257 00:15:54.879 --> 00:16:00.200 Yeah, you get in the way of that that no, no, no, 258 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:00.399 no now. 259 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:03.679 And I think we're starting to get and I think 260 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.200 we're gonna see this one of the I don't want 261 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.840 to say issues, but some of the sometimes in the past, 262 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.000 and I think we're singing again. With these forbidden door matchups, 263 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.639 the outcomes can be a little too predictable. 264 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.879 And I'll say that. 265 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:24.320 As we go to the iw GP World Championship match 266 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:31.519 two Hometown Boys champion Zach Saber Junior defending against Nigel McGuinness, 267 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.360 who I guess is gonna have Daniel Garcia in his corner, 268 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:35.879 Is that right? 269 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:36.759 Yeah? 270 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:41.919 And as like this more so being about Danny, like 271 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.120 there's gonna be a bomb match, like the imagine is 272 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.840 gonna be great, it's gonna be another tech technical spectacle 273 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:50.759 or whatever. But yeah, he's gonna be for Danny's heel 274 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:53.519 turn and he's gonna sabotage Nigel from getting that a 275 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:54.320 iw GP. 276 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:55.200 That's what I think. 277 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.480 I didn't I wasn't really thinking about a hell turn. 278 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.840 But God, there's no chance stead Nigel Beginners is beating 279 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:02.799 Zach Labor Junior. 280 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:03.840 Nor should he. 281 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:06.440 No one should beat Zach. 282 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.319 No, No, what should be sack? 283 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:15.920 No, No one should be Listen, he's all that, he's amazing. 284 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:33.000 Yeah what if? Oh yeah, listen. New Japan has to 285 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.559 ride this Zach Saber train as far as it will go, 286 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:40.000 because he's really about all they've got right now, at. 287 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:45.559 Least at least in singles, uh, bullet clubs, you know, 288 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:52.599 but I don't know. It's it's something, all. 289 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.640 Right, all right, So we all sort of feel feel 290 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:01.000 Zach Saberg is going to take that. Yes, yes, Another 291 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.400 one that I think is probably not gonna be a 292 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.960 surprise for most we have Kyle Fletcher defending his Team 293 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:13.680 T championship against Rome with Takahashi. That's Fletcher, all right, 294 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.359 I mean it's gotta be Fletcher's. 295 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.640 This is one of those matches that this is one 296 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:24.319 of those matches that if it goes twenty minutes, it's 297 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:25.799 probably fifteen minutes too long. 298 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:28.839 Mmm my good. 299 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:34.240 I don't think that of all the matches on this card, 300 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.599 I consider this the least competitive match by. 301 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:42.000 Far, I think it's gonna be a great match. I'll 302 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.359 say that much, but I don't want to say it. 303 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.759 But like, it does feel like whenever an AW talent 304 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.039 with a belt goes against somebody who's in another company, 305 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.079 it feels like a Battle of the belts, but on 306 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:55.759 a pay per view, you know, because like how many 307 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:58.359 title changes have we seen on a Battle of the belts? 308 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:02.759 How many title changes how we see between somebody out 309 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:04.359 of the company with somebody in the company. 310 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:04.839 Do you feel me? 311 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:07.279 Yeah? I get you. 312 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:16.039 Well, I'm about to blow your minds then, because the 313 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.000 next match I want to talk about is the a 314 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:24.119 W Women's World Championship Champion Timeless Tony Storm defending her 315 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:28.319 title against Athena. And I think Athena is walking out 316 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.680 of forbidden doors the AW Women's World Champion. 317 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:32.160 I hope that. 318 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.920 As do I think I do. 319 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:42.680 Yeah, it and it annoys mainly people said, well, she's 320 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.839 on such a great time and she's doing so good, 321 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.519 she's a women's division and stuff. Well, you know, at 322 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.480 some point, she's had since February and I'm kind of 323 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.359 wanting something different, a little more flavor to it. It's 324 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.359 not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose it at all, 325 00:19:58.759 --> 00:19:59.720 and I think it's time. 326 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.000 No, definitely is not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose 327 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.000 this belt. I agree with the hundred percent. 328 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:07.880 There especially. 329 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:17.759 It's going to be a good match. Oh yeah, I 330 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:20.440 will say this is don't forget that. 331 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:25.200 A few days later, Atina has to defend the a 332 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.599 W Women's World Championship against Mina shear Kaala. 333 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:31.160 The ring. 334 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:40.359 Yeah, and I kind of think that baby Mina comes 335 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:43.359 away with it. Make her the face of of uh 336 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:44.359 Ring of Honor. 337 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:50.599 You're speaking my language? 338 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.759 Has the TV title? Give her both, but. 339 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:58.960 It's an interim title, and she's not even recognized you 340 00:20:59.000 --> 00:20:59.920 know in some place. 341 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.000 Is it's it's weird. 342 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:09.279 Yeah, if the Theanna does lose, I means she has 343 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.319 a problem. 344 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:13.960 She has a problem winning big matches, and that's not 345 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.839 something you want your your Ring of Honor champion to 346 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.839 be doing. So I don't that's my issue with. 347 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:23.559 Yeah. 348 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:25.079 Put it this way. 349 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.279 She carried Ring of Honor, she has carried that company 350 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:30.880 for multiple years. 351 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:32.960 And she. 352 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:39.440 Did a clean job to Mercedes Monette in the Owen 353 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:45.000 Heart Tournament, which is you know, which was her first 354 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.599 real big opportunity to parlay all that ring of honor, 355 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:55.039 you know, Cachet into an a W major victory, and 356 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.400 you know she didn't get to do that so that 357 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:01.400 we could have Mercedes versus Tony. I personally think it 358 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.279 should have been Tony versus Athena all in Texas because 359 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.799 Athena is from Texas. But now that we didn't get that, 360 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:12.200 Now that we didn't get that and Athena did the job, 361 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:16.759 I think I don't want to say owed. I don't think. 362 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:20.240 I don't think anybody's owed anything. But if anyone deserves 363 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.400 an opportunity to win this belt at forbidden door, and 364 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:26.559 like she deserves this chance to be the champion, I 365 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.720 fully believe that if. 366 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:30.720 You may deserve it, but I don't think it's gonna 367 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:36.000 happen because here's the thing nobody's even mentioned. It's the 368 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.480 fact that she's about to reach one thousand days on 369 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.759 her ro OH World title right now. You may think 370 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.759 that makes her more of a threat to the Women's 371 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:47.680 World Champion in aw but as Shane said before, she 372 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.279 did a clean job to Tony Storm. So personally, in 373 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.599 my or, no, what was her name? The other one? 374 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:55.599 Mercedes? 375 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.279 Mercedes, Yes, but anyway, the. 376 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:04.799 Other one, my point stands, Yeah, GE's. 377 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:07.599 Going to do another clean job here. It's gonna be 378 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.759 a great match, but she's going to job and then 379 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:12.880 it'll lead into a giant storyline of. 380 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.519 Oh, is she going to be able to do a 381 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.559 thousand days or is someone finally going to take the 382 00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:18.880 crown off HER's that she might be. 383 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:20.319 I think Tony's going to win. 384 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:21.759 Well. 385 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.799 I thought we would have some different opinions on that, 386 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:32.599 but I so we'll see. I mean, obviously, go ahead, Kelsey. 387 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:34.599 No, I just wanted to bring something up. You know, 388 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.359 you have the thousand days. I don't think that's important. 389 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:42.759 She's already the longest reigning Rigabanter champion men and women combined. 390 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:47.200 She passed them over Joe's record. Another thing that people 391 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.599 brought up are like, this is a little bit off topic, 392 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:51.599 but go back to the other one. 393 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:53.240 Mercedes Moday. 394 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:56.759 People are saying that they want to keep that belt 395 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.960 on her until she passes Jade Cargill. I don't believe 396 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.680 that's true either, because I think you're giving Jake Cargill. 397 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.480 Don't he cares about Jake Cargill In a w her 398 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:11.279 reign was not anywhere near as good as Mercedes Monday's rain. 399 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:16.519 I mean, come on, I agree, I agree. 400 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.079 There can I just say we're really spoiled in the 401 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:22.759