Speaker 1: And nine Cognition.
Speaker 2: Five four three two one zero, All engine running.
Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means.
Speaker 3: It's time for Ignition with the a W fan Hub
Speaker 3: podcast team.
Speaker 1: This is Kelson.
Speaker 4: And it's me. It's me. It's the VI b E.
Speaker 4: That's right, shades the vibe here. We're gonna take a
Speaker 4: look at some of the goings on this week and
Speaker 4: only wrestling, and we're gonna start with the big event
Speaker 4: coming up in London at the O two this weekend,
Speaker 4: Forbidden Door. What do you guys think should be the
Speaker 4: main event of that show?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a pretty good question because you could argue
Speaker 3: that honestly, Tony Storm and Athena. For me, I really
Speaker 3: think Tony Storm and Athena should be the main event.
Speaker 3: It's about time the women got a main event. And frankly,
Speaker 3: I don't know about the rest of you guys, but
Speaker 3: I kind of think like Hangman and MJF is not
Speaker 3: too much in doubt.
Speaker 5: Logically, I'm gonna say it's gonna be the lights out match,
Speaker 5: but I do feel like Athena versus them would be
Speaker 5: the best.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that sounds like logical now that I think about it.
Speaker 6: With the lights out match going last, because like, then,
Speaker 6: what are they going to do after the match is
Speaker 6: over if it doesn't go last, turn the lights back
Speaker 6: on for the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not how the lights out match works. They
Speaker 1: don't wrestle the dark.
Speaker 6: I know that.
Speaker 1: It didn't take you long to say something weird.
Speaker 7: Goodness, Oh my goodness. I'm looking forward to Athena and
Speaker 7: Tony as well. I think that's gonna be the best
Speaker 7: match there and it's just gonna be great. I'm so
Speaker 7: happy to see women's wrestling.
Speaker 1: Just top tier. Yeah kay, what are your thoughts about it?
Speaker 8: Honestly, if there was ever a time, I do agree
Speaker 8: that the women should main event at some point, but
Speaker 8: if they were ever gonna do it, it should have
Speaker 8: been the all in match, should be get They put
Speaker 8: them second with Mariah May and Tony Storm, like that
Speaker 8: felt the most obvious for a main event women's main event,
Speaker 8: But this time around, I'm going to go with the
Speaker 8: the lights out match because, like we just said, like
Speaker 8: you can't turn them back on again. That breaks the
Speaker 8: drama for me too. That's my favorite part is like
Speaker 8: this is now unsanctioned. When the lights turn off and
Speaker 8: come back on, again, this is no like you know,
Speaker 8: that kills the drama if it's not the main event.
Speaker 1: Max, do you have any thoughts on this?
Speaker 9: Ill, the lights out match has to go last because
Speaker 9: it's a big stipulation match, and it it makes the
Speaker 9: most sense to close.
Speaker 1: Well Shades bring us home.
Speaker 4: Well, I agree that it makes the most sense for
Speaker 4: the lights out match to go last. However, if it
Speaker 4: were me, and because this is a forbidden Door, because
Speaker 4: we're trying to, you know, play up the ties between
Speaker 4: AW and New Japan Pro Wrestling, I would put Ocata
Speaker 4: and Swerve in the main event because Okada is probably,
Speaker 4: even though he is signed to AW now, he's probably
Speaker 4: the biggest star New Japan Pro Wrestling has had in
Speaker 4: the past twenty years and so or at least the
Speaker 4: last fifteen years for sure, And I think that it
Speaker 4: would it sort of would fall within the spirit of
Speaker 4: what Forbidden Door is supposed to be. Now, it won't
Speaker 4: be the main event, but I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 4: it's the best match on the card.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nizzy in the uh in the chat is saying that
Speaker 3: she's leaning towards lights out match too, but she'd be
Speaker 3: happy with Athena and Tony Storm.
Speaker 1: So where are we going next here?
Speaker 4: I have one more thing to add. Let me add
Speaker 4: I I agree that MJF and Hangman should not be
Speaker 4: the main event because this will not this is not
Speaker 4: the end of their feud, so I see this as
Speaker 4: just another step in their story. Uh, let's talk about well,
Speaker 4: let's just go on. Let's go to predictions now. Actually,
Speaker 4: we we've got the card pretty much finalized, so let's
Speaker 4: start with the aw World Tag Team Championship. The Hurt
Speaker 4: Syndicate takes on the winners of f We are in
Speaker 4: Brodido and since we're doing this before the shows this week,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to sort of predict who's gonna win
Speaker 4: between FTR and Brodido. I'll go first on that. I
Speaker 4: think FTR is gonna win, and I think FTR will
Speaker 4: be your new World Tag Team Champions.
Speaker 1: I hope not.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna say this because last week last year,
Speaker 3: we had the same situation with FTR winning a match
Speaker 3: to become the not winning.
Speaker 1: They actually had a match.
Speaker 3: With the acclaimed and the winner would go on to
Speaker 3: all In. At that point, because remember all In was
Speaker 3: in in August and the match actually went to a draw,
Speaker 3: and so both FTR and Acclaimed made it too all
Speaker 3: in in a three way, and I just don't want
Speaker 3: to see the same thing happening again. I mean, we
Speaker 3: did a poll on the aw fathob subreddit and it
Speaker 3: was kind of right down the line. Broddo was the
Speaker 3: heart pick and FTR was the head pick.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, for sure I saw that, uh, which I
Speaker 8: didn't even think about. Nizzi said that FTR loses due
Speaker 8: to cope interference. I think, and I could definitely see
Speaker 8: that happening, you know, yeah, because I really I also
Speaker 8: just really don't want FTR to get over. I want
Speaker 8: Brody to to make it. I want body like if anybody,
Speaker 8: you know, I want to see Tag Team gold Lot
Speaker 8: again would be uh brody, you know like I, or
Speaker 8: a title on again would be brody like I. You know,
Speaker 8: I don't want to see FTR make it to the
Speaker 8: end this time, and I would prefer a cope interference.
Speaker 1: Who's dex who has another who has their own pick? Mkay,
Speaker 1: let's go to you.
Speaker 5: Uh you know, I I really want some fresh blood
Speaker 5: in there and be Brodido there's I think FTR has
Speaker 5: their own issues. Going on, and they don't need the
Speaker 5: titles right now, so Brodida would be great to put
Speaker 5: it on, and it'd be a whole heck of a
Speaker 5: lot of a good match for two big teams to
Speaker 5: go after each other. And said, because really, if you
Speaker 5: look at it, Hurstinicett hasn't faced very many big, big
Speaker 5: guys like big and agile guys like they have with Brodido, right.
Speaker 3: I also keep in mind also that MVP did say
Speaker 3: an interview a couple months ago that he wanted Hurt
Speaker 3: Syndicett to lose the titles to a younger team. Well,
Speaker 3: FTR is definitely not the younger team, and I think
Speaker 3: he also met by younger team is somebody that maybe
Speaker 3: he has never done it before, you know, and let's
Speaker 3: just get somebody new in there. And Brodido is definitely
Speaker 3: a new team. Net Let's get your thoughts on this,
Speaker 3: I guess, and that isn't with us.
Speaker 1: Max. Do you have the thoughts on this?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean Roddo would give hurd Sin the kid.
Speaker 10: It would be different because of course Brodido is a
Speaker 10: bigger team. They're bigger guys than what the hurts in
Speaker 10: the kids you've been facing as a voight, So I.
Speaker 9: Think it would be a good I think you would
Speaker 9: have good chemistry, and I think it would be a
Speaker 9: good sweeper man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you? What about you, Jess?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going with Broddo too. I think it would
Speaker 6: be the coolest precioust pick they could make. I don't
Speaker 6: I know better than to put all my like to
Speaker 6: bet on the fact that's going to happen, but I
Speaker 6: really hope that it does.
Speaker 4: I would like to I would like to justify my
Speaker 4: FTR pick very quickly because I think one of the reasons,
Speaker 4: like non k Thabe Adam Clopland came to AW is
Speaker 4: to have a run with Christian Cage, And I think
Speaker 4: they are going to defeat FTR and they're going to
Speaker 4: retire as the World Taging Champions's that's what I believe
Speaker 4: is gonna happen. So that's sort of why I think
Speaker 4: they beat FTR to get those belts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, while here's my reasoning for what I said,
Speaker 3: not FTR is because look, WWE is currently doing their
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five Nostalgia Tour where they got forty eight
Speaker 3: and fifty year olds going at it on the main
Speaker 3: events of their shows. We don't need that in aaw
Speaker 3: You could do Christian Cage and Copeland against FDR in
Speaker 3: a non title match, and I'm non title feud if
Speaker 3: you want, and it would be just as good. I
Speaker 3: don't think you really need I agree with that, you know,
Speaker 3: net Let's see if you can.
Speaker 11: Okay, Okay, good?
Speaker 7: Sorry, I think I lost my WiFi. I was outside
Speaker 7: and came back in the house. I was saying that
Speaker 7: I'd like to see Brodito win. I think that Brody
Speaker 7: King needs some gold and I'm honestly a bit tired
Speaker 7: of FTR in general, so I'd like to see it
Speaker 7: on Brodido.
Speaker 11: That's my choice.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we just had Steve and Sleazy join us,
Speaker 3: so let's go to Sleazy. We're talking about who do
Speaker 3: we think is going to win the FTR and Brodido
Speaker 3: match go on to face hurt Syndicate in Afterbidden Door. Also,
Speaker 3: do you think that that team would be able to
Speaker 3: beat Hurt Syndicate because none of us have actually said
Speaker 3: that yet.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Brodnido's going to win pure leave from
Speaker 2: Adam and Copeland interference, and as for whether or not
Speaker 2: they could beat the Hurts and get they could go
Speaker 2: either way because the Hurts ind get they have giant,
Speaker 2: massive muscles. Okay, that is a really hard quality to
Speaker 2: get over. But I believe that Brodido could potentially pull
Speaker 2: off the upset of the century.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Steve and see what you think.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna have to say, FTR, they I think as
Speaker 12: a tag team they work together fine, but I do
Speaker 12: see yeah, Edge could come in and like Edge.
Speaker 13: Or Adam Coplan, Yeah yeah, I'm so used to saying
Speaker 13: is w name, Like I can see him like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: they like he could like come in and like just
Speaker 13: like mess with them, kind of throw them off their
Speaker 13: game and lose that way. I can see that happening.
Speaker 13: But I think FTR because they're just they're more mistuh
Speaker 13: established tag team.
Speaker 1: Just gonna throw this out here.
Speaker 3: Let me let me throw this out here because a
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't say what their pick was for
Speaker 3: forbidden or do you think that the winner of the
Speaker 3: Brodido and FTR match is going to beat the Hurt
Speaker 3: Syndicate real quick?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Yes? No, yep, no, yep.
Speaker 3: It was like like the mented choir, That's what this
Speaker 3: sounded like.
Speaker 1: That just killed me. I don't know why.
Speaker 8: F tr FTR gets over. I hope that they don't
Speaker 8: get over on the his Hurt syndicate. But if Bronino
Speaker 8: gets over, obviously I would I imagine that they would
Speaker 8: get over.
Speaker 5: I think I think they're trying to tease Brodido a
Speaker 5: little bit, in my opinion, have them get close close,
Speaker 5: kind of like they claimed where they claim should have
Speaker 5: won because they're so over with swerving our glory or
Speaker 5: whatever their name was with Keith Lee, but they didn't.
Speaker 5: So maybe they dangle dangle the carrot in front of
Speaker 5: us and see how we're you're act.
Speaker 11: I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 1: It's Jade.
Speaker 4: What's sticking with the tag teams. We have the aforementioned
Speaker 4: Adam Copeland and Christian Cage taking on I guess the
Speaker 4: matriarchy at this point, Kip Sabian and Nick Wayne in
Speaker 4: a grudge match, and I don't see there's any chance
Speaker 4: of Copeland and Cage not winning this match.
Speaker 3: So I thought you were going to say something different.
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, no, I agree with you, Shades.
Speaker 3: There's no way that cop and Cage aren't going to
Speaker 3: win this match. Yeah, I agree, you have a better
Speaker 3: chance of Cage turning on Copeland than you do them
Speaker 3: losing this match.
Speaker 11: Do you imagine?
Speaker 4: All right, I think we have a consensus on that one.
Speaker 4: We'll go to another match that I think there's going
Speaker 4: to be a consensus on the TBS Championship four way
Speaker 4: with champion Mercedes Monet representing a w Persephone representing CMLL
Speaker 4: Alex Windsor and do we know who is representing Stardom yet?
Speaker 3: No, but I will say this is that. Well, tomorrow morning,
Speaker 3: early in the morning, Uh, the five Star will be
Speaker 3: comple leaded the playoff and the quarter finals of the
Speaker 3: five Star will be completed.
Speaker 1: Eight Stardom wrestlers will.
Speaker 3: Be eliminated by I don't know nine am Eastern time
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. Well, actually before that, I'm thinking after that
Speaker 3: show tomorrow morning that Stardom may introduce who it's going
Speaker 3: to be. I thought it would be sure. But if
Speaker 3: it's surey, there's no reason why they couldn't announce it
Speaker 3: by now, so I kind of else.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think it matters because Mercedes Money is
Speaker 4: going to retain her title, right, no windsor not.
Speaker 8: I'm joking, but yeah, definitely Money is going to get away, like,
Speaker 8: no doubt about it at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's moment.
Speaker 4: Forbid and stop the money training guys. She wears her
Speaker 4: belts like a skirt like it's.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you get in the way of that that no, no, no,
Speaker 14: no now.
Speaker 4: And I think we're starting to get and I think
Speaker 4: we're gonna see this one of the I don't want
Speaker 4: to say issues, but some of the sometimes in the past,
Speaker 4: and I think we're singing again. With these forbidden door matchups,
Speaker 4: the outcomes can be a little too predictable.
Speaker 9: And I'll say that.
Speaker 4: As we go to the iw GP World Championship match
Speaker 4: two Hometown Boys champion Zach Saber Junior defending against Nigel McGuinness,
Speaker 4: who I guess is gonna have Daniel Garcia in his corner,
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: And as like this more so being about Danny, like
Speaker 8: there's gonna be a bomb match, like the imagine is
Speaker 8: gonna be great, it's gonna be another tech technical spectacle
Speaker 8: or whatever. But yeah, he's gonna be for Danny's heel
Speaker 8: turn and he's gonna sabotage Nigel from getting that a
Speaker 8: iw GP.
Speaker 11: That's what I think.
Speaker 3: I didn't I wasn't really thinking about a hell turn.
Speaker 3: But God, there's no chance stead Nigel Beginners is beating
Speaker 3: Zach Labor Junior.
Speaker 1: Nor should he.
Speaker 5: No one should beat Zach.
Speaker 1: No, No, what should be sack?
Speaker 4: No, No one should be Listen, he's all that, he's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah what if? Oh yeah, listen. New Japan has to
Speaker 4: ride this Zach Saber train as far as it will go,
Speaker 4: because he's really about all they've got right now, at.
Speaker 1: Least at least in singles, uh, bullet clubs, you know,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's it's something, all.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, So we all sort of feel feel
Speaker 4: Zach Saberg is going to take that. Yes, yes, Another
Speaker 4: one that I think is probably not gonna be a
Speaker 4: surprise for most we have Kyle Fletcher defending his Team
Speaker 4: T championship against Rome with Takahashi. That's Fletcher, all right,
Speaker 4: I mean it's gotta be Fletcher's.
Speaker 3: This is one of those matches that this is one
Speaker 3: of those matches that if it goes twenty minutes, it's
Speaker 3: probably fifteen minutes too long.
Speaker 5: Mmm my good.
Speaker 3: I don't think that of all the matches on this card,
Speaker 3: I consider this the least competitive match by.
Speaker 8: Far, I think it's gonna be a great match. I'll
Speaker 8: say that much, but I don't want to say it.
Speaker 8: But like, it does feel like whenever an AW talent
Speaker 8: with a belt goes against somebody who's in another company,
Speaker 8: it feels like a Battle of the belts, but on
Speaker 8: a pay per view, you know, because like how many
Speaker 8: title changes have we seen on a Battle of the belts?
Speaker 8: How many title changes how we see between somebody out
Speaker 8: of the company with somebody in the company.
Speaker 11: Do you feel me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I get you.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm about to blow your minds then, because the
Speaker 4: next match I want to talk about is the a
Speaker 4: W Women's World Championship Champion Timeless Tony Storm defending her
Speaker 4: title against Athena. And I think Athena is walking out
Speaker 4: of forbidden doors the AW Women's World Champion.
Speaker 5: I hope that.
Speaker 1: As do I think I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it and it annoys mainly people said, well, she's
Speaker 5: on such a great time and she's doing so good,
Speaker 5: she's a women's division and stuff. Well, you know, at
Speaker 5: some point, she's had since February and I'm kind of
Speaker 5: wanting something different, a little more flavor to it. It's
Speaker 5: not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose it at all,
Speaker 5: and I think it's time.
Speaker 3: No, definitely is not gonna hurt Tony Storm to lose
Speaker 3: this belt. I agree with the hundred percent.
Speaker 2: There especially.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a good match. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: will say this is don't forget that.
Speaker 3: A few days later, Atina has to defend the a
Speaker 3: W Women's World Championship against Mina shear Kaala.
Speaker 1: The ring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I kind of think that baby Mina comes
Speaker 3: away with it. Make her the face of of uh
Speaker 3: Ring of Honor.
Speaker 4: You're speaking my language?
Speaker 9: Has the TV title? Give her both, but.
Speaker 3: It's an interim title, and she's not even recognized you
Speaker 3: know in some place.
Speaker 1: Is it's it's weird.
Speaker 13: Yeah, if the Theanna does lose, I means she has
Speaker 13: a problem.
Speaker 5: She has a problem winning big matches, and that's not
Speaker 5: something you want your your Ring of Honor champion to
Speaker 5: be doing. So I don't that's my issue with.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Put it this way.
Speaker 4: She carried Ring of Honor, she has carried that company
Speaker 4: for multiple years.
Speaker 1: And she.
Speaker 4: Did a clean job to Mercedes Monette in the Owen
Speaker 4: Heart Tournament, which is you know, which was her first
Speaker 4: real big opportunity to parlay all that ring of honor,
Speaker 4: you know, Cachet into an a W major victory, and
Speaker 4: you know she didn't get to do that so that
Speaker 4: we could have Mercedes versus Tony. I personally think it
Speaker 4: should have been Tony versus Athena all in Texas because
Speaker 4: Athena is from Texas. But now that we didn't get that,
Speaker 4: Now that we didn't get that and Athena did the job,
Speaker 4: I think I don't want to say owed. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's owed anything. But if anyone deserves
Speaker 4: an opportunity to win this belt at forbidden door, and
Speaker 4: like she deserves this chance to be the champion, I
Speaker 4: fully believe that if.
Speaker 2: You may deserve it, but I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 2: happen because here's the thing nobody's even mentioned. It's the
Speaker 2: fact that she's about to reach one thousand days on
Speaker 2: her ro OH World title right now. You may think
Speaker 2: that makes her more of a threat to the Women's
Speaker 2: World Champion in aw but as Shane said before, she
Speaker 2: did a clean job to Tony Storm. So personally, in
Speaker 2: my or, no, what was her name? The other one?
Speaker 1: Mercedes?
Speaker 2: Mercedes, Yes, but anyway, the.
Speaker 15: Other one, my point stands, Yeah, GE's.
Speaker 2: Going to do another clean job here. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: a great match, but she's going to job and then
Speaker 2: it'll lead into a giant storyline of.
Speaker 4: Oh, is she going to be able to do a
Speaker 4: thousand days or is someone finally going to take the
Speaker 4: crown off HER's that she might be.
Speaker 2: I think Tony's going to win.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: I thought we would have some different opinions on that,
Speaker 4: but I so we'll see. I mean, obviously, go ahead, Kelsey.
Speaker 3: No, I just wanted to bring something up. You know,
Speaker 3: you have the thousand days. I don't think that's important.
Speaker 3: She's already the longest reigning Rigabanter champion men and women combined.
Speaker 3: She passed them over Joe's record. Another thing that people
Speaker 3: brought up are like, this is a little bit off topic,
Speaker 3: but go back to the other one.
Speaker 1: Mercedes Moday.
Speaker 3: People are saying that they want to keep that belt
Speaker 3: on her until she passes Jade Cargill. I don't believe
Speaker 3: that's true either, because I think you're giving Jake Cargill.
Speaker 3: Don't he cares about Jake Cargill In a w her
Speaker 3: reign was not anywhere near as good as Mercedes Monday's rain.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 4: There can I just say we're really spoiled in the
Speaker 4: fact that we have two reigning women's champions in a
Speaker 4: w who have had lengthy title reigns, and both of
Speaker 4: them have been very, very good.
Speaker 8: Absolutely that, And like I do want to to win
Speaker 8: because I'm tired of paying nine to ninety nine a
Speaker 8: month to have to watch her on R O H.
Speaker 16: And I'm really glad that, yes you've heard it from
Speaker 16: the AW podcast team, we're not buying the Daughter Club
Speaker 16: anymore wins.
Speaker 8: But you know something, I'm happy that I don't have.
Speaker 8: You know, I could see her on HBO, Max and
Speaker 8: whatever platforms that they stream a dynamite on you right,
Speaker 8: seeing her on television Billy Starks too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Billy Starks.
Speaker 11: I'd like to see more of her. So that's that's
Speaker 11: a real plus there.
Speaker 1: I think we have.
Speaker 4: We have two more, we have three more matches. Actually,
Speaker 4: we have another title match, the AW Unified Championship. Kaz
Speaker 4: Because let me try this again, Kazuka Okata defends his
Speaker 4: title against Swerve Strickland, and as amazing as it would
Speaker 4: be for Swerve to go over here, and I think
Speaker 4: in a different time and place that can happen and
Speaker 4: maybe will happen. I don't think it's happening at Forbidden Door.
Speaker 2: A well, I don't mean to swerve the conversation, but
Speaker 2: I think Swerve's gonna take the victory here just to
Speaker 2: kind of start the slow and eventual collapse of Kaza's
Speaker 2: thumb and and silvered them in card Rain.
Speaker 1: Well, No, I agree with Jay's swears not winning this,
Speaker 1: absolutely not.
Speaker 4: He just want match with Kenny Omega. He's not going
Speaker 4: to turn around and lose it at the next payer view.
Speaker 4: I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 7: Don Callus has a lot more paintings in him, so
Speaker 7: I think is.
Speaker 11: Definitely gonna win.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see that painting.
Speaker 5: See.
Speaker 11: I'm on the edge of my seat, so let's.
Speaker 5: But you're here, I am no.
Speaker 8: I feel like somebody somebody said, for like one of
Speaker 8: the other championship, I think it was for the tag
Speaker 8: match because the hurt syndicate, like it might lead to
Speaker 8: a story later down the line. But I don't think
Speaker 8: that's where it was going to get over this time around.
Speaker 8: Not not in like because like uh, like Shade said earlier,
Speaker 8: like Okada is like the face of New Japan. Even
Speaker 8: though he's aw, he's all elite right now, Like he's
Speaker 8: still kind of like associated with uh New Japan. So
Speaker 8: like you can't really do that here in this paper
Speaker 8: kind of thing, you know, right, all right?
Speaker 4: We have big Yeah, we got the big daddy the
Speaker 4: aw Men's World Championship Hangman Adam Page defending against m JF.
Speaker 4: And I'm torn because I think Hangman probably should win
Speaker 4: and probably will win, But I kind of would like
Speaker 4: to see the meltdown if MJFB him the belt, like
Speaker 4: the actual meltdown in the community.
Speaker 14: Like what.
Speaker 8: If I if I see that dynamite diamond ring on
Speaker 8: that boy finger at any point in the match and
Speaker 8: want to get up and turn off my TV, Like
Speaker 8: I I lose it if he like, because that's the
Speaker 8: only way I could see him winning and getting over
Speaker 8: Hangman is if he cheats, you know, and does the
Speaker 8: heelish thing that he does, the sleazy MJF thing, and
Speaker 8: he does, you know, and wams him inside the head
Speaker 8: with that uh dynamite diamond ring, you know.
Speaker 11: But that's the only way, and I'll be pissed off
Speaker 11: if I.
Speaker 17: See that this match did the did what I never
Speaker 17: thought it would make me do, and made me call
Speaker 17: this pay per view interesting, which I have never done before.
Speaker 17: I'm honest to God, do not know who is going
Speaker 17: to win.
Speaker 4: This is amazing.
Speaker 17: It may be called forbidden Door interesting, This is huge.
Speaker 5: This is not the match for me to Yeah, I
Speaker 5: feel that, well, this is the least interesting match for me.
Speaker 5: I just I don't know it's JAF lately or what
Speaker 5: it is, but I'm not I know, hang Ma's probably
Speaker 5: gonna win because he's not gonna go through all that
Speaker 5: pain taking stuff with the death risings and say, oh
Speaker 5: here you go, MJF, just take it. Why don't you didn't?
Speaker 5: I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look at the ninety second anniversary of CML.
Speaker 3: MGF is going to lose the CML CMLL Championship to Mistico,
Speaker 3: and that would be the second championship match he's lost
Speaker 3: in the span of two weeks.
Speaker 1: Because he's not going to win this match either.
Speaker 4: Nope, he's not.
Speaker 7: No, I don't see him winning.
Speaker 4: The question because what happens late after I look, where
Speaker 4: do these two go afterward? Are they going to continue
Speaker 4: their program because I don't see MJF just letting this
Speaker 4: go if he loses this match. I think this feud
Speaker 4: might ultimately result in MJF becoming the champion, but just
Speaker 4: not yet.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only other thing that could happen is MGF.
Speaker 3: If he does win this, he'll lose it back to
Speaker 3: Hangman in ten days. That they've done that before. Somebody
Speaker 3: brought up Swerving Our Glory and the Acclaimed If you remember,
Speaker 3: Acclaimed lost the Swerve in Our Glory and then shortly
Speaker 3: afterward One won it back.
Speaker 4: So I really hope we don't start heart hot shotting
Speaker 4: world title like that.
Speaker 11: I don't.
Speaker 4: That's a very double thing to do.
Speaker 1: I don't like that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't. I think this is the wrong
Speaker 3: time to be doing this match. I think needed a
Speaker 3: I think it needed a bigger build.
Speaker 1: And I said that last week too. Yeah, and Hang Matt.
Speaker 3: Probably would have been better, sir participating in the lights
Speaker 3: out match.
Speaker 7: That's where I'd like to see him and see the
Speaker 7: lights out match.
Speaker 4: I agree over there and can together about the lights
Speaker 4: out match. We've got the Death Writers, Gabe Kid and
Speaker 4: the Young Bucks taking on Darby Allen, Roshi Tanahashi, will Spray,
Speaker 4: Kenny Omega and newly signed to a contract extension Coda
Speaker 4: AbuI What I mean, how many matches did he wrestle
Speaker 4: on his first contract with the a W three.
Speaker 7: He's gonna ride that bicycle.
Speaker 1: Should ride the bicycle down with a jow. Yeah, he'sows. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, the death Riders are the Heels, if you will,
Speaker 3: let's just call them the Heels are.
Speaker 1: Going to kill these guys. I mean, you've got a
Speaker 1: guy that you know is basically less. You know, she.
Speaker 14: Has no knees, Ospray has no neck, Kenny Omega has
Speaker 14: no abdomen, is a walking calamity, and Darby Allen, Darby
Speaker 14: Allen might be the most physically together a person on
Speaker 14: that team, which tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 3: There's something wrong with the Face team, like every other
Speaker 3: one was like, you know, I think that I don't
Speaker 3: think there's I don't think there's any mystery behind who's
Speaker 3: going to win this match. I mean it's got to
Speaker 3: be it's got to be the Heels. The only mystery
Speaker 3: of this is what Choliber is gonna say. As far
Speaker 3: as how many feet I've ever removed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as you know, fifteen miles of Kenny Omega's and
Speaker 4: testing was removed.
Speaker 1: It's like it's feet.
Speaker 7: Remember I had a mild case of the Victor lightis
Speaker 7: and it extended on to where he was near comatose.
Speaker 11: So it's just never ends.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, at this point, I don't know if
Speaker 3: this whole thing was k fab or not. I really don't,
Speaker 3: you know, It's it's weird.
Speaker 4: I just I want to see Sperry walk down to
Speaker 4: the ring holding his neck, and then Candy holding his stomach,
Speaker 4: and Hashi walking bow legged and.
Speaker 3: Wheelchair Darby Allen walking out, and just instead of hopping
Speaker 3: into the ring, he just plants himself fa first, face
Speaker 3: first into the ring post.
Speaker 11: Just for the hell off the top of the cane,
Speaker 11: you know, Oh goodness, that man is Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 11: No one can see anything.
Speaker 4: Nzy says in chat. I wonder how they're going to
Speaker 4: disrespect the bucks this time, And I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: but I tell you what I hope will eventually come
Speaker 4: from this is I think they're teasing a breakup of
Speaker 4: the box.
Speaker 11: You think so.
Speaker 1: That would.
Speaker 4: Listen think I just want to throw this out here.
Speaker 4: What is the Bucks have done everything. They've done everything.
Speaker 4: What's the one story they've not done? A breakup?
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: And if you look there is when Don Kallus approached them,
Speaker 4: there is a picture of him hugging the Bucks and
Speaker 4: you know Nick Jackson looking at Mac Jackson kind of
Speaker 4: weird and Mac Jackson really embracing Don call Us. They
Speaker 4: took the same picture with Don Kallis hugging Kyle Fletcher
Speaker 4: and Will Osprey. Wow, I'll see if I can find it.
Speaker 4: But it's it's a lot of foreshadowing.
Speaker 1: It's that Wow, That's that's a deep dive right there.
Speaker 3: You know what what I you know, what I'd like
Speaker 3: to see is on Dynamite tomorrow from Glasgow. I'd like
Speaker 3: to see them have like a promotion with the Bucks.
Speaker 3: But they dead in the audio and they put subtitles
Speaker 3: up which are clearly not what they're saying.
Speaker 1: And I think that would just be the greatest way
Speaker 1: to lead it to.
Speaker 4: The fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the first adult Schwartzenegger movie, that was hysterical.
Speaker 3: If you don't get a chance, go look at that that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Arnold Schwartzedger. I'm got the Jim
Speaker 3: and I am, you know, he's just speaking perfect English
Speaker 3: and I'm it's it's hysterical knowing what we know.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, now.
Speaker 4: That we've talked about the main card, what do you
Speaker 4: guys think there's going to be, well what what do
Speaker 4: you think is going to be added to zero hour
Speaker 4: match wise? Do you think we're going to get a
Speaker 4: zero hour like.
Speaker 1: What we definitely we will get.
Speaker 3: Here's what I hope happened either on Dynamite or Collision
Speaker 3: this week. I would love to see Tekla come out
Speaker 3: and challenge Cosmic Angels or Empress, Nexus, Venus whomever to
Speaker 3: a you know, triangle of madness against three of the.
Speaker 1: Idols from stardom. I think that would be a really
Speaker 1: good zero hour match and it.
Speaker 3: Would be something that we sit for that and that
Speaker 3: would be something that would get start Stardom fans in
Speaker 3: Japanese fans invested in Forbidden Door and maybe get some
Speaker 3: sell by byes from that as well.
Speaker 4: And they also have any wish list zero hour matches?
Speaker 5: No what.
Speaker 1: Everybody talked to once.
Speaker 9: Okay, so Techwan and triangle challenging.
Speaker 1: It would obviously have.
Speaker 9: To be caused by Angels because twas the idle, the
Speaker 9: whole idole thing in Japan. It would be funny though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if it was Eres Nexus Venus, that would
Speaker 3: mean that maybe you could get uh Mina.
Speaker 1: Shere A Cow involved because that was her old group.
Speaker 1: You can't even have a mish mash. You don't have
Speaker 1: to go with just one group.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I just think it would be a
Speaker 3: great match for starting fans to see and maybe do
Speaker 3: a buy in for Forbidden Door.
Speaker 2: And here's a match I think they could happened.
Speaker 15: So Platinum Max is making his International Challenge International, right,
Speaker 15: so he gets put on zero hour, They do the
Speaker 15: very stupid chant that is incredibly annoying and has a
Speaker 15: low quality T shirt and then who.
Speaker 1: Who else comes out? But Ward Low? It's Genies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Wardlow could be good. I don't know.
Speaker 9: Oh, give me Bonzilla in the TVs title match as
Speaker 9: the stardom representative.
Speaker 3: Now that that wouldn't work. She's just she's too green.
Speaker 3: She's too green. She's at the ring with veterans here.
Speaker 3: She could should be out of place. I don't think
Speaker 3: she could work it in terms of.
Speaker 9: That of the stardom representative. Then give me az M
Speaker 9: or give me momo.
Speaker 1: Uh it makes sense, like kid in this chat.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, So is there no love for the Starlight
Speaker 4: Kid in this chat?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody was a Startlight Kid.
Speaker 3: But the fact of the matter is Starlight Kids already
Speaker 3: booked for a match at Segura. Uh right, but she's
Speaker 3: already booked for a match that day as is That's boy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Starlight Kid, that's a poise Serrie, and I can't remember
Speaker 3: there's one other from stardom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, since it's in England. What about the Priestley?
Speaker 3: No, not based on what she's been doing, she's not
Speaker 3: that she's not signed to start them, so that kind
Speaker 3: of eliminates here right there.
Speaker 1: But she's had some awful matches in that five star
Speaker 1: So I have I have another great idea for a
Speaker 1: zero Adam match.
Speaker 2: Jack Perry versus Griff Garrett.
Speaker 1: Oh damn it, we're editing that.
Speaker 7: Who You're worse than me? Because I was gonna say
Speaker 7: my favorite Eddie Kingston just come out and Entertainments.
Speaker 11: I didn't want to say it first. I didn't want to.
Speaker 4: Max challenges to be Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 3: Eddie Kingston comes to the rain, grabs a mic and
Speaker 3: farts the a b c's only on Forbidden Doors zero hour.
Speaker 7: All right, he does chops to Platinum Max to the
Speaker 7: beat of let's go Max, You're the best wrestler.
Speaker 8: In Look man, the whole heel side. That age match
Speaker 8: already looks like a dinner bell for Kingston. Like you know,
Speaker 8: I'm already, I feel it. I'm going to the E
Speaker 8: c W shows.
Speaker 11: I'm coping. I'm excited. I feel it. It's in the air,
Speaker 11: like it's you know, I'm excited. I hope so was.
Speaker 1: Everybody here knows. I love Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 4: I just want I think he shaved that beard too.
Speaker 4: I think he's ready.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he said that he's just waiting on Tony Kahn Sosa.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe Tony can just itnitely, forget about him, just.
Speaker 4: Just just come out to Platinum Mexico. You preap what
Speaker 4: you sow Patna?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 1: Did I tell you what these nuts?
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's go on to pot pourri and
Speaker 4: I'll get this started. There's some news out there, some
Speaker 4: rumors that when his current aaw Dill is up, that
Speaker 4: Chris Jericho might make his way back to WWE. And
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about WW but here's what
Speaker 4: I want to say. If that happens, fine, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see anyone, you know. I get
Speaker 4: that Jericho's character has kind of gotten a little stale,
Speaker 4: and I get that he's maybe run his course in AW.
Speaker 4: But let's be very very clear, Chris Jericho signing with
Speaker 4: this company and being its first world champion is a major,
Speaker 4: major reason why it was able to establish a foothold.
Speaker 4: And so I will if he leaves and goes to WWE,
Speaker 4: I'll say happy trails that thanks for everything, Chris, and
Speaker 4: that'll be it. Like I'm not going to trash him
Speaker 4: on the way out the door. And so I hope
Speaker 4: that that is the attitude of AW fans if that happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, I think Chris Jericho is
Speaker 3: a WWE wrestler. I don't think you are a sports entertainer.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's an AW wrestler at this point
Speaker 3: because he hasn't been on anything for what four months,
Speaker 3: almost almost four months now, Since I don't I.
Speaker 5: Don't see it as a smart move for him. But
Speaker 5: if he wants to do it, go for it. I
Speaker 5: don't I don't know how friendly he is with Paul
Speaker 5: to me and Alavenders all the interviews I've seen him,
Speaker 5: and he seems like a vinced guy. So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think there's more roles for him besides ring and
Speaker 5: besides wrestling her new commentary, he could do a lot
Speaker 5: of stuff.
Speaker 1: We also don't forget about Fozzy.
Speaker 3: If he does sign with WWE, is he going to
Speaker 3: be able to record a tour with you know these
Speaker 3: how many Grammys have they won?
Speaker 4: None?
Speaker 9: No one?
Speaker 8: Would he still even run the cruise of Jericho if
Speaker 8: he went to the WW Yeah.
Speaker 6: What Happenstan?
Speaker 4: They're gonna want twenty five percent of the gate on
Speaker 4: that is what?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 8: He charges like thirteen dollars for you to get a
Speaker 8: something like a handmade guitar and you get to ask
Speaker 8: him a question or something.
Speaker 4: And I was like, what.
Speaker 5: If he wanted to leave?
Speaker 8: Like if anybody wants to work at another company that
Speaker 8: isn't aw let them. You know, I'm pretty sure we're
Speaker 8: gonna talk about that later. But with Jericho, like I
Speaker 8: could totally see him going back home, you know, like
Speaker 8: that was his whole gimmick too. He was the sports entertainer,
Speaker 8: like uh, with the Jericho Appreciation Society, with the whole
Speaker 8: Danny Garcia thing about whether or not he was a
Speaker 8: sports entertainer or a professional wrestler. And ADEW has made
Speaker 8: its stance that it is professional wrestling and not sports entertainment.
Speaker 8: So there's really absolutely no space for Jericho anymore, like
Speaker 8: Shade said, But also like Shade said, he is integral
Speaker 8: to the history of ADEW. He will always be the
Speaker 8: inaugural AW World Champion and nothing can change that. You know,
Speaker 8: he established a lot of talents like Daddy Magic and
Speaker 8: a cool hand ind and Danny Garcia. A lot of
Speaker 8: cool people came out of Santana and Artiz. They were
Speaker 8: in the Inner Circle. I loved the Cody, Uh, mister
Speaker 8: Kay said, but yeah, Sammy, Yeah.
Speaker 5: But has to stop for Yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: Jericho slander going on and stuff. And look, he put
Speaker 5: over Orange Cassidy when he didn't have to, because at
Speaker 5: first he didn't understand the Van's gimmick, but he got it.
Speaker 5: And he's done a lot for this company, whether you
Speaker 5: like his character or not. And I think his part
Speaker 5: in Brawl Out help with you know, Tony didn't know
Speaker 5: what to do. I think Jericho helped in that situation too,
Speaker 5: So he he's great. I don't see a place in WWE.
Speaker 5: I don't see a match where I really want him
Speaker 5: to face anybody. So I don't know what he's going
Speaker 5: to do over there. Maybe it's a one off. I
Speaker 5: don't know, but at some point he deserves his flowers
Speaker 5: and people need to quit billy aching about him burying people,
Speaker 5: which he never buried anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that was what the point that Shades
Speaker 1: made initially is that, Yeah, the only thing.
Speaker 4: The only thing I will say is the one thing
Speaker 4: Chris Jericho asked people to do when he won the belt,
Speaker 4: and I'll just say thank you, Chris Jericho. So I think, Kay,
Speaker 4: you mentioned another talent who might want to work at
Speaker 4: another company. Do you want to expound on that?
Speaker 8: Oh, my man, darn Housen. Look, I love Dan Housen,
Speaker 8: and I understand, Well I don't. I don't understand because
Speaker 8: it's not my business. But with the adding of the
Speaker 8: injury time because he wants to leave, he hasn't been
Speaker 8: booked and god knows how long, and I feel like
Speaker 8: it might have to do.
Speaker 11: With, you know, merchandising. Stuff.
Speaker 8: Because when you look, every time they post the stats
Speaker 8: on aw merchandise, he's usually number three and he hasn't
Speaker 8: even been on television and god knows how long, you know,
Speaker 8: and they're holding on to him, and he wants to leave,
Speaker 8: and I think, let him. You know, we already had
Speaker 8: the bs with Ray Phoenix when he's like posting about
Speaker 8: how he's suffocating, excuse me, how he's suffocating and dying,
Speaker 8: and how he wants to get out of this company,
Speaker 8: you know, like a wounded animal in the corner like that.
Speaker 8: You know, that sucked having to watch that happen for months.
Speaker 8: I want to want to see Dan, like Dan hous
Speaker 8: is doing great on the indies right now. That man's
Speaker 8: paid some of my bills, you know, because he's commissioned
Speaker 8: me to make stuff for him. And I thought that
Speaker 8: was really cool. Like I think he should leave. I think,
Speaker 8: you know, I think he should if he wants to
Speaker 8: go and have bygones, be bygones.
Speaker 1: Let him, you know, with that house.
Speaker 3: And he's done nothing really but curse people, and he's
Speaker 3: had what two mediocre matches. But I think the biggest
Speaker 3: thing with what you said that the takeaway is, look
Speaker 3: at Ray Phoenix, bad mouthing a W, and AW just
Speaker 3: kept him away from AWW as long as they can go.
Speaker 3: Dan Houses has been bad mouthing aw.
Speaker 4: A.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he has constantly and and we've just got
Speaker 3: aw just getting him. Whatever did you look at somebody
Speaker 3: like Malachi Black Alistair Black. He was very open up front.
Speaker 3: You know, I've heard that he communicated the Tony Kahn.
Speaker 3: He wanted his release, he got released. No arguments from
Speaker 3: Tony con. It's Tony con strikes me as like, if
Speaker 3: you are respectful to not only him but the company,
Speaker 3: he should to take care of you.
Speaker 1: Whatever way.
Speaker 4: Yes, the page is another one ethan page with the
Speaker 4: Tony Cohn said, Hey, I think I think I could
Speaker 4: do better elsewhere, and I really want a chance to
Speaker 4: go wrestle somewhere else and Tony kNN just said okay,
Speaker 4: and he ended up NXT the next week.
Speaker 5: You know, draw of of Dan Hassen as a wrestler.
Speaker 5: I think he's a great comedic guy. I think he
Speaker 5: would be great at backstage or or shanigans and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, but I don't I don't think he's it.
Speaker 5: He's great at merchandise, He's a great I don't know.
Speaker 5: He's just not somebody I want in AW anymore.
Speaker 4: Guys, here's the deal here, here is the bottom line
Speaker 4: the deal. W WING has made it clear. They've aught,
Speaker 4: They have stated openly that their goal is to put
Speaker 4: a W out of business. They have engaged in you know,
Speaker 4: crappy business practices, contract hampering, you name it. They have
Speaker 4: done everything they can to try to undermine AW. When
Speaker 4: someone's pointing a gun at you, you don't hand them
Speaker 4: another bullet. And it's unfortunate for Dan Housen that he's
Speaker 4: in this situation. But WWE is the one who has
Speaker 4: created the environment where Tony Kahn has to protect his business.
Speaker 4: WWE has done that.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. Shades Aw just recently
Speaker 3: signed Ace Austin. Would you say, I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 3: two questions. First question is would you say that A's
Speaker 3: Austen is a better wrestler.
Speaker 4: Than Dan Housen without question?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The second question is how many Dan wait a minute,
Speaker 3: how many Dan Housen's would it take the equal one
Speaker 3: Ace Austin.
Speaker 1: I would say probably around forty or so.
Speaker 5: Forty, But we don't need any David.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think that's the math you can look at, though.
Speaker 4: I think you have to look at the fact that
Speaker 4: what they're gonna do if he releases Dan Housen today,
Speaker 4: he's gonna get signed tomorrow. They're gonna put him on nxteam,
Speaker 4: which is probably the one play. Like we talk about
Speaker 4: we make fun of Mariah may Slash, Blake Monroe and
Speaker 4: all these other people getting relegated to NXT, NXT is
Speaker 4: actually a place where Dan Housen can thrive. I think
Speaker 4: that could be a really great spot for him. And
Speaker 4: if that happens, it's gonna be They're gonna stick it
Speaker 4: to aw every week. It's gonna be some tongue in
Speaker 4: cheek comment, it's gonna be everything they can and that's
Speaker 4: going to happen anyway, unfortunately. But you just can't. I
Speaker 4: think it's bad. It's a bad precedent to set number one,
Speaker 4: when a guy's bad mouth in your company, to give
Speaker 4: him what he wants. And number two, like, you can't
Speaker 4: be the nice guy in an environment where nobody else
Speaker 4: is the nice guy or you're gonna get walked all over.
Speaker 4: And that WWE. If WWE was a more reasonable business
Speaker 4: entity and just focused on its own stuff and didn't
Speaker 4: try to undermine AW encounter program and do all these
Speaker 4: things to like explicitly put it out of business. Then yeah,
Speaker 4: things might be different, you know, but they're not so.
Speaker 4: Tony Kahn first and foremost has a business to protect.
Speaker 4: How many people does he employ? How many you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: He can't.
Speaker 4: He can't just think about what's best for Dan Housen.
Speaker 4: He's got to think about what's best for all the
Speaker 4: restorers who are on his roster, all of the people
Speaker 4: who work in production, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying is that if somebody like Dan
Speaker 3: Housen went to WW tomorrow, I don't think it would
Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form hurt AW, other than
Speaker 3: maybe in the merchandising.
Speaker 1: But let me say this.
Speaker 3: Of the last eight signees in twenty twenty five that
Speaker 3: AAW has gotten, none of them have ever wrestled in WWE.
Speaker 3: That's important. The other thing is that they're considerably younger
Speaker 3: and more experienced than what ww's Look, this is what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you know, on the AAW side, Look five
Speaker 3: seven years from now. I think I said this last week.
Speaker 3: Guys like FTR Adam Copeland, maybe Christian Cage, Kenny Omega
Speaker 3: and others are not going to be with a w anymore.
Speaker 3: But they've got guys like swer Strickland and hang Met,
Speaker 3: Adam Page and will Osbry and Kyle fletcherd It can
Speaker 3: step up and take those spots, no problem right now.
Speaker 1: Right now, they could do that.
Speaker 3: The problem is is that, I mean, look at what's
Speaker 3: going on with the WWE's supposed matchup for August twentieth,
Speaker 3: John Cena and Brock Lesner. That's two forty eight year
Speaker 3: old men that are part timers that are in the
Speaker 3: main event. You know, this is what I'm saying. AW
Speaker 3: is going younger, but not just younger as far as
Speaker 3: developmental talent. They're going younger with experience and even their
Speaker 3: developmental talent that they had in the AAW dark days.
Speaker 3: You're getting along with these people that actually have experience.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: You know, you could look especially in the women's division
Speaker 3: Sky Blue, Julia Hart, you know some people like that.
Speaker 3: They're talking about people that have experience and WWE. If
Speaker 3: you look at the ed XT roster, they have some
Speaker 3: young people on NXT roster that I've never heard of
Speaker 3: and can't Remember if I've ever heard of mat even
Speaker 3: having a match, you know, I mean a legitimate match,
Speaker 3: not a squash, but a legitimate match.
Speaker 1: See, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: AW needs to keep on doing what they're doing right now,
Speaker 3: building and developing the younger talent and giving them ample experience,
Speaker 3: not just squash matches.
Speaker 1: And that's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: And five seven years from now, like I said, when
Speaker 3: these AW wrestlers are no longer going to be with
Speaker 3: the company like FDR and Kenny Omega and Adam Copeland
Speaker 3: and then you know whatnot.
Speaker 1: You have experienced backups that can pick it up.
Speaker 3: And they're doing it now, So why can't they do
Speaker 3: it five seven years from now? They're going to be
Speaker 3: in their prime. You see what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 3: know that's the thing. It's a revolving door. I think
Speaker 3: I said this last week. The report was is that
Speaker 3: basically the average WWE viewer is ten years older than
Speaker 3: the average AW viewer. Why is that because they grew
Speaker 3: up watching these same guys that are in WWE. And
Speaker 3: I jokingly mentioned the WWE twenty twenty five nostalgia Tour,
Speaker 3: meaning that they've gotten all these older wrestlers wrestling in
Speaker 3: main events all over the place. You know, seem punk,
Speaker 3: you know whatever. I mean, they're not young bucks anymore.
Speaker 3: Part of the pun and a at A w to
Speaker 3: put on these matches with younger guys Hagman, Adam Page
Speaker 3: and MJF. Come on, I mean, look at that. Those
Speaker 3: those are younger guys that five from seven years five
Speaker 3: to seven years from now are still going to be
Speaker 3: in their prime.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I agree the Aws positioned better right now than probably
Speaker 4: they have been hit. And I agree that their future
Speaker 4: is bright. And I think one of the reasons they
Speaker 4: are that way is because Tony has been really smart
Speaker 4: with how he's running his business.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 4: I think if Tony feels that he needs to keep
Speaker 4: a contract going, if that, like, I trust his ability
Speaker 4: to manage his business. Let me put it that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to I want to come up with
Speaker 3: my potpourri. It's just not really a discussion topic. It's
Speaker 3: really just a comment. It just wanted to say congratulations
Speaker 3: to Naomi and Jimmy Usol because they just announced that
Speaker 3: they are expecting their first child together.
Speaker 1: I think it's great.
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm Naomi and I'm really happy that Naomi's
Speaker 3: quote unquote injury that kept her from being cleared is
Speaker 3: not something serious but something amazing.
Speaker 5: I think you called it actually when it first happened,
Speaker 5: you were thinking pregnancy.
Speaker 3: Well, I know that she had said that she wanted
Speaker 3: to start a family, and there were some there were
Speaker 3: some is ses. I don't want to get into it
Speaker 3: because it's none of my damn business in door hours,
Speaker 3: but there were some issues preventing her from starting that family,
Speaker 3: and obviously that has been rectified. And I just really
Speaker 3: hope that have a beautiful baby boy or baby girl
Speaker 3: and have a happy family together.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. I had anybody else with the puffery,
Speaker 1: go ahead, I have one.
Speaker 11: I got to.
Speaker 5: I watched clips of Triple Mania, and I'm gonna say
Speaker 5: something I don't say about w about the stuff it was.
Speaker 5: It was very good, and WWE made Lucha Leebray a
Speaker 5: little bit more relevant and a lot of goofy stuff
Speaker 5: and fun stuff. But on the flip side of that,
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear any more WWE fans complaining
Speaker 5: about Orange Cassidy or the flippity floppity things that we
Speaker 5: do anymore, because yeah, I really enjoyed it. You know,
Speaker 5: even at Iguana and the Puppet and Microman and all
Speaker 5: that stuff. It was fun and wrestling is supposed to
Speaker 5: be fun. If you get to stick out of your
Speaker 5: rear ends, you'll you'll enjoy wrestling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't have a problem with it
Speaker 3: at all, you know, and it's it's a shame. And
Speaker 3: I will say this as somebody and that runs and
Speaker 3: Steve and Shades could probably back me up on this
Speaker 3: because we're moderators on the aw Fantom subreddit, and I
Speaker 3: know that Steve is a moderator at other subredits, including
Speaker 3: Greatness of Wrestling. A lot of the comments that are
Speaker 3: made about flippity flippity stuff and negative tribalistic stuff on
Speaker 3: all subreddits that I see. Third, for people who are
Speaker 3: not members of the subreddit, it just shows up on
Speaker 3: their feed. They take an opportunity to make a comment.
Speaker 3: I know that when I look at some of the
Speaker 3: people to make these tribalistic comments, it's literally like their
Speaker 3: first and second can comment that they've made on whatever
Speaker 3: subreddit they're on, you know, and a lot of them
Speaker 3: don't even make comments on wrestling subreddits.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Pay attention to the people that you know are watching
Speaker 3: the product, don't pay attention to people, or are just
Speaker 3: trying to get under your skin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: The one thing I'll say about Triplemania, I think we
Speaker 4: could have done with up the thick Taurus.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's a friend of Beast Bortos, because
Speaker 3: he's been jokingly like saying, you know, I'm a lawyer
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: I hope, I hope it's a tongue. I hope that
Speaker 4: they're everybody's cool with it. I just you know, but
Speaker 4: I guess for a company that literally toted a casket
Speaker 4: out of a ring and resurrected La Parca from it
Speaker 4: the year, you can't. I guess everything's on the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Is anybody else?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: All right, then, well we'll be back tomorrow night, right
Speaker 3: after Dynamite to do our aw fan Hub Dynamite review.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it a little bit differently tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: We're gonna try to do three matches and then we're
Speaker 3: gonna do a pote piri where everybody can bring up
Speaker 3: something about the other matches and segments or whatever. So
Speaker 3: we're gonna pick the three biggest ones. So we're gonna
Speaker 3: try to limit the time on it and make it
Speaker 3: just more enjoyable to the podcasters and for all the
Speaker 3: people that are listening as well. So again, thank you
Speaker 3: for listening. Thank you to everybody on the podcast team
Speaker 3: to show it up tonight.
Speaker 1: This was fun.
Speaker 3: Tell us of the comments, whether you agree with the
Speaker 3: podcast team's picks and thoughts and their crazy comments. Uh
Speaker 3: that we're made tonight and we will see you tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: So for the a W Fan podcast team, what did
Speaker 3: I just say there? The postcast team, Yeah, uh, this
Speaker 3: is Kelson.
Speaker 4: And this is Uh and this is Shades the Vibe.
Speaker 4: Good night Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 1: Good night Eddie kings Did.
Speaker 11: Good night Eddie.
Speaker 1: We love you. Yeah,