Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody? Welcome to episode YEP three hundred
and thirteen of Hobby Hotline. My name, of course is
Drew or the DH joining me today. He's not a
kid anymore, even though he is in school. But we
got Brody TK and then from Splendid Sports, we've got Adam.
What's going on? Guys?
Speaker 2: Happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Here and ready to go?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Ready? Beautiful looks good? How about you, Brody? How's everything
going your way?
Speaker 3: It's been good. You don't just start at school pretty early,
but it's you know, busy school is a busy time
of year.
Speaker 1: It is, and now that you're not a kid anymore,
you got that big boy work to deal with, so
you know, I remember how it is. But welcome everybody
to the show. Thank you all for tuning in. I
know a lot of you are probably at a fanatics
festus that's going on this weekend. I know some of
you may not be, but I figure that's what everybody's
talking about. That's where everybody seems to be. So I
think it's probably apropos that we probably start the show
off talking about Fanatics fest So you know it is
going on this weekend. It's the debut event. It seems
to be it seems to be more for the casual
goer as opposed to some of the serious collectors. As
I know, the East Coast National is also going on
right now, and that you know, takes a lot of
a lot of very big dealers, you know, and they
set up there as opposed to fanatics, pest. But it's
a very interesting event that they're putting on. I've seen
lots of cool stuff. I'd love to do the WWE
entrance walk through. That's the one thing I'm jealous about
that I can't do is queue up like Seawn Michael's
music and walk out to it and have a video.
But fanatics best overall, what are your guys impressions, at
least from what you've seen through social media, because god,
you know there's tons of it out there.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: I got a little jealous yesterday because I was watching
I was watching Tom Brady by his own cards and
I think some Drake may cards, maybe Joema Tanna card
from a dealer that I've bought Tom Brady cards from.
Speaker 2: So it was just like was my head was spinning.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a minute, tom Brady's buying cards from
a guy I've bought Tom Brady cards from, so that
right there, and then he spoke for about on the
video I watched on Instagram. I think he was there
for about eight to ten minutes, and he was talking
about how he's he's been collecting cards, you know, when
he was a kid like all of us, and and
then when he got drafted by the Patriots, he started
collecting his rookie cards. So I didn't know that. I
didn't know that Tom Brady collected cards too, so that
was very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing I will say is I've loved
how Fanatics has incorporated the athletes in this event. Now
I know a couple athletes got Now the the people
going and attending the event need to start to learn
how to act and behave around these athletes, because I've
seen a couple that kind of just said, screw, I'm
out of here because of being bum rushed and just
people going nuts and just not respecting people's boundaries like
no one does to athletes these days at all. But
I love That's the one thing I will say, because
there's I do have quite a few critiques of stuff
I've seen, but I do love that, you know, tom
Brady's going over to a table to buy some cards,
and like you said, he's not just buying it with
a ton of security and running away. He's sitting there
and talking. He's interacting with people like that. You got
Dronk spiking a slab, which I thought was ridiculous, But
you know, hey, if you want to buy it and
crack it open to sign it, that's that. That's your thing.
But of course he had to spike a slab. But
you know, I do like the athlete interaction on the
floor as opposed to paying getting a quick little photo
op and a signature and then you're out of there.
I do like seeing him walk the floor kind of
interact with people and stuff like that. Got a lot.
What about you, Brodie? What have you seen so far?
What do you think about fanatics best from AFAR?
Speaker 3: I agree with you guys. I love that their athletes, wrestlers,
all those guys are there. It's just really cool, especially
like you know, a big wrestling fanly like you said,
you know what the late in line just to get
a quick auto or picture, you can actually like kind
of talk to them, Yeah, listen to them for a while,
which you think it's cool.
Speaker 1: I love it. Now, we do have some comments in here. Yes,
Matt City Brew, I will say I did see that
the MVP bag was a hot mess, very very big
swing and a miss on their part. And they're gonna have,
you know, to be honest, it's their first time putting
this on. They're gonna have stuff that messes up that
they need to improve on the national and no show
was perfect the very first time they do it. But
if you're going to charge people that amount of money,
you know, and it was a significant amount of money
to get, you know, the tickets required to get this
bag that essentially had you know, five dollars worth of
stuff that you might get three point fifty after fees
on eBay. You know, you you do kind of need
to take care of those VIP people a little bit better,
I think. But I think that's I think that's something
that I guarantee you the next one the VIP bag
will probably be a lot nicer. But yeah, I did
hear and I've seen it in the comments Mad City
Brew saying that it was full of garbage, had cheap
Big League packs in them, then yeah, and I agree,
White Sox fan, they can do much better than that.
And I hope, because I'm assuming more of this is
going to go on, that they actually do, you know,
improve on everything. You know, the problems that arise from
this first one, because it it reminds me a little
bit of The Mint more of a an experience as
opposed to a big card show. It reminds me much
more as a networking type of area for you know,
content creators and dealers and people that own companies that
create stuff. You know, it's much more of a trade
show type feel like the Mint, at least from the
outside looking in, as opposed to like an actual card show.
What do you guys, I mean, do you agree? Disagree? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think And it makes sense.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you think about the purpose of it
for fanatics, they're trying to convert, you know, at least
in the card world, they're trying to convert more sports
fans into card collectors.
Speaker 2: So it makes sense. You know, you want to draw
a lot.
Speaker 4: As many people in as you can and then with
the hope that they'll stumble upon the card section and
you know, they'll see that video of Tom Brady talking
about how he collects cards. So if anyone ever tells
you that collecting cards ain't cool. Tom Brady collects cards,
you know, stuff like that. So I get it, and
I totally see your point too, where it's just a
different you know, it's a different purpose than the National.
So yeah, I think, you know, if if you can
go to both, that's awesome, right you hit you can.
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to go to either one.
Speaker 4: But if you can hit both the National and Fanatics Fest,
like I've seen some people do, man, you're getting the
best of everything.
Speaker 3: I think, Oh yeah, I totally agree. I think this
is a really good event for big sport fans. Do
you like a lot of sports that Fanatics does? This
is like the event for you, and there's cards to it,
But I don't, like we've mentioned, it's not like the
National where there's cards everywhere.
Speaker 1: Right, No, there's it's definitely you know, there's cards to
be but there's tons of deals that are going to
happen at these things. But absolutely, you guys know that
this is for the casual collector, maybe the person that's
not a collector yet. And let's face it, you put
it in New York like that. They did a wonderful
job with putting a lot of focus on WWE and
having a WWE area because one thing about wrestling fans
they travel. They will travel, and they will go to
New York City, especially because it's a legendary area Madison
Square Garden. Obviously they're not there, but it's that area
wrestling fans travel. I thought it was really smart to,
you know, be able to bring in Cody Rhodes people
like that that because they do they travel a lot. Yeah,
even like White Sox fan john Boy Media is there.
So this is an event where I think, as much
as I could care less if I was there or
not outside of wanting my entrance from the WWE and
seeing people that I wouldn't see otherwise, the thing for me,
you know, more than anything, is I just see this
as an opportunity for other media outlets like John Boy
Media other places like that, to start looking into cards,
talking if we can get them to talk about cards,
have a segment on one of their shows that has
anything to do with cards, have cards in the background
of their stuff when they're talking. All that type of
stuff is going to help. And so that's kind of
where I see fanatic fests. I kind of see that
as their goal is to get more people talking about it,
and then the people that they can get in the
door get them to start collecting again. That's what I
see this as is much more than just a bunch
of people wanting to go to card shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brody, what would be your wrestling song? You said
it would be the Heartbreak Kid? Right, So what would
be your song Brody to walk out to.
Speaker 3: I'd probably to do a Roman reins a song with
my one in the air and tell New York to
acknowledge me. I think that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would do I mean Heartbreak Kid,
just for childhood memories. If we were going modern day,
I would have to either do Romans because it literally
sounds like a Final Boss video game like you said,
or I would want to do uh, I mean, you
could go seth Rollins. Or I'd want to get creepy
and go wy At six. But that would be me.
What about you, Adam? Would you walk out the well?
Speaker 2: I'm old?
Speaker 4: So I would go with like hell Cogan, not the
real American. I would go with his original I the
Tiger song that he used to come.
Speaker 1: Out beautiful, not not n WO, not Hollywood.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was out.
Speaker 4: I was out at that point. I mean on like
the eighties, eighties Hogan, you.
Speaker 1: Know, beautiful, all right, good deal. You can a warrior
and just take off and just start going crazy if
they had ropes, you know, but Cocob ware, there's a
lot of we could go with.
Speaker 2: But I do.
Speaker 1: I did think that that was really cool. But one
video that I did see that I'll pull it up
right now. I thought this was really cool. We talked about,
you know, Tom Brady going to the table and opening
or buying some cards, you know, talked about Gronk spiking.
I'll pull that video up if everyone hasn't seen it yet.
I do completely agree able a February Fanatics Best would
be great to be able to include baseball players. But
I think next year you're going to see Fanatics Fest
at at least two or three of them. I would
not be surprised to see him in multiple places, probably Vegas,
New York, and maybe somewhere in California, and maybe we
get something in Texas. But that's what I would think.
But there was a video that I saw that was
really really cool. To pull it up here. Grant Williams
another player that was walking the floor. Maybe not the biggest,
you know, person out there that's attending the event, but
Grant Williams a tennis show and let's get this up here,
get it nice and zoomed in here and he opened
up and he opened up the Actually what he was
poking up? I guess he ends up getting the grade,
which ended up being is going on try and get there,
we go, here we go.
Speaker 2: Ends up getting.
Speaker 1: That one and then r P a massive, massive luke
RPA from National Treasures out of ten at the event.
What do you guys think of? I mean, stuff like
that's pretty cool, just seeing a basketball player out there
opening up boxes something he's not used to doing, and
he hits a card that's probably I don't know, the
card's probably fifty grand the card that he pulls. I mean,
it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love too. I mean, like thinking about they're
both NBA players, so Grant Williams probably pulls that cart,
and he probably really respects Luca and what he's done
for how long is.
Speaker 1: Yeah big time. I mean he's got to be a
I mean everyone in the league respects Luca. You see
you see stuff all the time where they're talking and
people say, you know, he's got that dog, yeah, and
stuff like that, so you know it's pretty cool. But
here's actually I do have it. Now, let's uh, let's
pull it up. I don't know why it did not
do this before, but let's see if we can hear it.
Here we go, look going thick gold r p acuse
you gotta chick and like crazy. But I'm just National
present Grant ways right there on the floor of a
pretty good, pretty awesome I love it. I think it's great.
I think that's that's some really neat stuff that you
don't see at the National but you're gonna see it here,
you know. And that's what I like.
Speaker 4: And I know Grant Williams pretty well used to play
for my Celtics before he went to the Mavericks. And
maybe I'm wrong, this might be ironic because I feel
like he was on the Mavericks and then they traded
him midway through the season because the rumors were that
him and Luca didn't get along.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's pretty funny that. Then here we are.
Speaker 4: He pulls the big Luca card out of the.
Speaker 1: Question does he sell it? If he doesn't like Luca,
he probably sells it. Hey, that's I mean, I know
he makes a lot of money, but that's a nice
little addition right there. Luke Rpa added ten from National Treasures.
If they really don't get along, I bet we see
it on Golden or something pretty soon.
Speaker 4: Can you hear the conspiracy theorists already starting with that
box was scanned And I'll come to the athletes or
the influence. Always they always get the big hits. I
mean I already see it right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely they absolutely set scanned that box, just like
something we're going to talk about later. We now know
that my Trout's son owns a CT scanner because he
can predict the future. So I mean, there's everyone's doing it.
But but yeah, so great. I thought that was pretty cool.
And I did find uh the video. I do want
I want the chat's opinion on this because this is
something that went viral and I'm curious and I mentioned
it a little bit earlier, but I want to see
what everyone else thinks about this. Right here, and this
is the Gronk, the good old Gronk Spike here. So
he's hanging out, Uh, he's hanging out walking the floor
like everyone else was uh, and he ends up finding
a card of himself and then he decides to do
this which will pop up here and know what you
guys think.
Speaker 5: Right now in the playcase too, granted the last topic
ones and not the last ones, but.
Speaker 1: You know, he does it break perfectly, so.
Speaker 5: Being grown, they ground, Yeah, there's and we've got And
then he ends up fining the card whatever card was
in there, cold.
Speaker 1: Everything, but he says it's twenty thousand dollars. But what
do you guys, what do you guys think about that?
The Gronk spike out there on the floor.
Speaker 3: I mean, he spent his money on it, so I
mean kind of one of those things you could do
what you want with it. I guess I don't know.
It's definitely odd, but I mean Gronks know him for
his massive spike.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I agree, And then the chat seems
to agree right here he did ask permission, lou Rock,
I mean I assume that. I mean, he's not just
gonna do it randomly. They're gonna Obviously this was set
up and I'm sure he's said I'm sure someone probably
even asked him, Hey, would you spike this? I'll buy this?
Would you spike it and sign it. I'm sure there
was a lot that went on to you know, having
this done. But you know, I don't know. I guess
being Gronk's thing, I guess it's it is what it is,
But you know that I don't know not what I
would do. I don't like that he did it on
a case. Spike it on dang ground. Man, don't break
a case that can damage cards underneath. You know, you
never know what happens. If that's a glass case, it
is damaging cards underneath. Like, there's other stuff that could
absolutely happen, so you know, and plus something could hit
someone in the eye. There's a lot of dangerous stuff
that you could you know, possibly happen. Is it probably
gonna happen. No chances of it, you know, flying into
a kid's eye and you know, hitting him probably not
gonna happen, but it could. And that's kind of the point.
So you know, if you're gonna stage something like this,
put him on the main stage. Let him do it there.
I don't really like that being done. Walking on the
floor Grant Williams and Tom Brady buying cards and talking
to people is one thing. Spiking stuff, breaking stuff. It
reminds me of a couple of years ago at the
National and whatnot, had the entire row and they just
started throwing stuff And I was working break a row
that year for Vintage breaks and I literally had packs
hitting me and people jumping over our table trying to
grab five dollars hangar packs. So that that's kind of
what it reminded me of.
Speaker 4: Well that comment from lou Rock, uh that Yeah, that's
a That's a perfect comment.
Speaker 2: That's how I.
Speaker 4: Feel about it. It's for a different type of purpose.
It's not for like hardcore card collectors. You know, it's
a spectacle. We were talking w w E earlier. I
think Gronk was in the w w E. Wasn't he
for a little bit, Like he made a couple of appearances.
So the whole the whole show has that feel to
it of WWE spectacle promotion. And I get it, you know,
that's the that's the idea. They want to create viral
videos like this, so people outside US collectors see these.
Speaker 2: Videos and be like, what is that? What is he
doing there? What is that?
Speaker 4: What is that a card to slap? So it's great marketing,
it really is. And I think it will work to
get more eyeballs on the hobby and and everything. But yeah,
to till the point there with Lou it's it's it's
just not it's it's it's a different show. Can I
I want to tell a quick story that I was
thinking because like there's a lot of talk about like
National versus Fanatics Fest, which makes sense, yes, and that
I want to go back to that Tom Brady video
because the dealer is a guy by the name of
Kevin and he goes by to Captain thirty seven on Instagram.
He's probably the biggest, if not one of the biggest
Tom Brady dealers around, And you know, I've known him.
Speaker 1: For a while.
Speaker 4: I've bought cards from him and met him at a show,
and you know he's a huge fan.
Speaker 2: He's a huge Tom Brady fan. But what was interesting is,
you know.
Speaker 4: I follow his his updates on his Instagram channel and
he usually sets up at the National. This was the
first year that I forget why, but something with the
new rules, he wasn't able to set up at the National.
He was very disappointed at that, so he still went,
but he was just kind of walking around selling cards,
but he didn't have his normal setup and here we
are flash forwarding to Fanatics where he's set up.
Speaker 2: He's meeting Tom Brady.
Speaker 4: Tom Brady's buying cards from him, having a ten minute conversation.
So the dichotomy between the two shows, I think he
can kind of see it right there, and that's I
get it. For some dealers, you know, it's a it's
a different experience, and I just thought it was very
interesting in the point of view of Kevin there.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll he'll talk about him.
Speaker 4: He's probably over the moon with that experience, just knowing
you know, no one what he's into.
Speaker 2: So it's just funny.
Speaker 1: Yes, Blue Rock, we will all back you. You do
make good points. I think all of us will back
you on that, and uh, Philly Joe, I mean kind
of nails it. Also, it looks awesome for what it's
supposed to be a sports festival. You know, they've got
they even Fanatic's kind of even told you that this
wasn't an actual card show when they designated a card
section of the event that said, Okay, this is where
the selling of cards is going to be. When they
designated a small area of the show to that, you
know right away which, like I said at the beginning,
reminds me much more of the Mint. You know, might
not be a bunch of companies showing off like a
trade show all their new stuff, but it is definitely
companies out there showing off what they have and introducing
themselves to those casual collectors. And I think they set
it up in a great way for that. But if
you look at it as a card show, you're going
to be severely disappointed. But you had the opportunity to
go to the East Coast National, which is literally like
an hour from there or two hours from there, and
that show is a lot of times better than the National,
So you know, there there's plenty, there's plenty of cards
to you know, plenty of stuff to do if you
wanted a card show itself. But yes, it's definitely much
more corporate than anything White Sox time, And you know
that's what they want. They want that because that's what's
like I said, that's what's going to bring in new companies.
I love the the fact that I saw in the
comments earlier that John Boy Media is there. That's the
type of stuff that needs to be at these events
and doing this stuff because that's how Fanatics is going
to and Michael Ruben are going to do what they
say and ten X, you know, really get into the hobby.
You can't just put a cool commercial with a really
funny ending on TV. I mean, that's not going to work.
You can't just put stuff in lids and hope people,
you know, buy a box at lids. You've got to
do stuff like this that people go into it and
they walk out of it like, holy cow, this is amazing. This.
I want to be a part of this world. And
so that's what I think they're going for here, and
I do agree Philly Joe. It is awesome for kids
and families. Yeah, there's a lot of cool but that
I was just saying.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of cool things for kids and families
like that. There's a hockey thing where you could shoot
the punk I've scene, and the rebooth, like we've mentioned,
looks very interactive. So yeah, I think it's definitely very
cool sport event and very cool kids families going with
each other.
Speaker 1: I was unaware of the hockey partner. That's something I
want to do because that's the sport I grew up playing.
I'd love to get up and do some of that stuff.
Kind of a little disappointed. I'm not there now for
that as well, But fanatics pest is going on. I'm
sure we will have tons more coming from everybody. I
did see Haley whatever her name is, the hawk Tula
girl is at fanatics best as well, because you know,
we can't have anything without her these days. And apparently
she got really trolled pretty hard by some collectors. I'd
played the video, but I can't really do that on YouTube,
so we'll leave that video out. But that girl's definitely
there as well. Rex says he loves the effort his
circle friends and family. Only my youngest son is interested
in collecting, but that's his personality, likes to collect things.
But I do see a lot of kids these days
that are also they They watch these videos of Gary
Vee and stuff like that as well. And I see
more kids nowadays that know so much more about grinding, hustling,
the flip game. Like whether it be shoes, comics, video,
git doesn't matter. These kids grind these days. And so
I can see some of these kids just being like,
oh wow, this is a really fun way. I like sports,
and this is a way for me to make money.
I mean, don't underestimate the amount of kids that look
at it just like that, because I see plenty of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's both ends of it too.
Speaker 4: I mean, like you said with Gary Vee, and his
message was go buy cards because they're gonna shoot up
in value, which to your point, you know, that's a
piece of the hobby.
Speaker 2: But I'm also seeing some of these athletes that are.
Speaker 4: You know, Grant Williams, Tom Brady, all these guys, they
collect cards. They don't need the money, they're not looking
to make flips, you know, Mike Trout like we'll get
into They're doing it as a hobby for fun, to
get their kids involved.
Speaker 2: So I think that's great.
Speaker 4: I think that's a great example, aside from the other
you know, sports card investor and and all these other
guys who were you know, saying get in the hobby
because because it's gonna be a good investment.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: I like to see, I got a credit fanatics with
with showing that to a large audience, that it's cool
to collect cards just to collect cards.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I I completely agree with you. All right,
So you kind of mentioned it earlier, and I would
love to dive into it. Now, but there was a
really really cool video that surface recently. Now a lot
of people might not know this, but Mike Trout has
been a massive collector of cards for a very long time,
and at the beginning it was so bad that he
used to buy off of eBay as literally his own name,
Mike Trout. His agent had to inform him to stop
doing that, so he does use a surname now when
he does buy stuff. But Mike Trout's been in the
hobby for a very long time and he is a
very big collector. Well, he has a young son, and
like all fathers do with their kids that collect At
least I did with Jude, whether he wanted to or not.
He opened some cards with him, and there's a video
that he put out that is one of the coolest
things I have seen in a really long time, and
just a really awesome eggs example of what this hobby
is and how we get you know, we get lost.
I think in values and things like that a little
too much. This is a perfect example of just something
beautiful that happened in the hobby and so I want
to uh cop this up. Let's let's call it back.
Get us full screen here and here we go. All right,
so what are we trying to get?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Today I love it.
Speaker 1: No way, dude, no way, no way.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, dude, let's gold bro which is pulled,
which is pulled the monster.
Speaker 1: And we just put it and then the sun knows
right away, Hey, put it in one of these that
at least this son knows what to do. But that
video right there, man, I I absolutely love it. It's
it's just great. You. First of all, his son is
probably the dude running those ads that CT scans boxes
because he knew it was coming. He knew it was
coming at the top loader ready, he's the one that's
charging fifteen dollars a pack. I do think we found
that out. But yeah, just absolutely amazing video from Mike
Trout there. But what do you guys think about that video?
It's really cool.
Speaker 3: I love like you said, the kid right away is like,
I think we should put it in one of these daddy like,
that's just I feel like Trouts teaching them about it,
and he's teaching them pretty well. If you do right
away to put it on a top boarder. It's a
really cool video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Mike Petty just said, that's a commercial right there.
That's you know, fanatics.
Speaker 4: You don't have to invest money into making a new
commercial there.
Speaker 2: It is just use that right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that seventies cards show. I don't think Mike
Trout sits around all the time opening packs with his son.
He might record a lot of this stuff I record.
I know I record a lot of pack openings that
I do with my son Jude, and I don't post
them if we don't hit anything or anything like that.
But I have a ton of videos, so it's very possible,
you know, if you're going to be doing that. It
did not look anyway, shape or form like professional lighting,
you know, like that they tried to. I mean they
didn't even have the camera set up for a good angle.
So this does look like he was videotaping and having
some fun and ripping. Now you know how we got
those boxes whatever. But I don't really think that this
was quote unquote staged. I think he may have been
given a bunch of boxes of that and said hey,
open it, you know, or he might have bought those boxes.
He's a huge collector. He could easily have cases of
that stuff left. But my favorite part of it all,
I think and leuro TV said it right. When Mike
Trout goes we pulled a monster and it's him, it's
like how it's like luked opening it up and be like, oh,
we pulled the best player in the league.
Speaker 4: Well, now now that Mike Trout's son's invested in Mike Trocards,
maybe he could have some influence and get his dad
to push for a trade. And I would love to
see him on a team that can compete in the
playoffs when he comes back.
Speaker 1: Yep, definitely would be nice that seventies show. I disagree
that he's not teaching him, well, enjoy the cards, screw
the value. I think that that's what he's doing. I
think he's you know, I mean with his son saying
pol a monster. That's just like when Jude hits like
a Golden Chars already He's like, yes, I hit the
card I wanted. You know, he just got it back
from PSA and it's in his collection. You know. We
from this little video, it looks like they're just opening
cards to have some fun. I doubt he's, you know,
about to talk to his little child about value. I think,
you know, they're just having fun opening up cards. But
it's a pretty cool video. I think, you know, I
think it's probably staged in somewhat of a bit in
terms of, hey, open all this stuff and do this,
but compared to how they normally stage it, I don't
think it was that. I don't think it was that.
And even if it was, it's pretty awesome. The son
definitely didn't know, unless he is that CT scanner that
I think he might be. But you know, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: And even even if you know, he's talking about value,
Like to your point, I don't I don't see them
going to be selling that card.
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't need the money, I don't think.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's just with kids that young,
it's kind of hard to be like, well this is
a great card because it's my first autograph and it's
a bowman and it was my rookie year.
Speaker 2: I mean, kids, it's easier to be like, well this
is this is worth a lot of money. I mean
you get that idea.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh no, If I try and explain to Jude
why card up here is worth money, you know, because
of this parallel out of this, he's gonna be so
bored and disinterested and buy it's not even gonna be funny,
but I say, yeah, this kind of pis a ten
three hundred bucks whoa, you know, like it's much easier
to you know, simplify it a little bit. But I
just love I love the video. I don't care if
it's staged or not. I think it's great. I hope
it makes a commercial. And speaking of commercials, Mike Petty
mentioned it and I loved it. The recent commercial that
Fanatics did. It did. It does definitely tug at the
heartstrings big time. And if you have not seen the commercial,
it's it's pretty awesome. They've done a very good job
with their first commercial. I think, yeah, I shared it
on I think I shared it.
Speaker 2: It's on the top YouTube page. I thought it was great. Yeah, yeah,
it's well, very well done.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, that was Fanatics, right, Fanatics made that.
I mean everyone agrees they're good at marketing. That was beautiful.
I mean, that was a great commercial. And you know,
i'd like to see one with as a father or
two daughters that wants to get my kids at some
point into the hobby.
Speaker 2: It'd be nice to do one not just with boys,
but with girls too. You know, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Hey, I think that's something you're going to see a
lot more of. But uh, but I'll get into that later. Brody,
what do you do? What do you think about the commercial?
Speaker 3: I think it's awesome. It's just a really cool way
of showing cards. And they mentioned at the tops Q
and A that they're going to start putting out a
lot of commercials like this, so I would expect.
Speaker 1: Them to keep coming. Yeah, no and no. I agree,
And I think you will see a lot more from
the female side of things in collecting, as I know
that's a it's a part of the industry that's growing heavily.
There are a lot of new breaker breaking companies that
are coming out, companies in general that are distributing products
that are all, you know, the female oriented. I attend
a ton of shows and you see a lot a
lot more new used to in terms of people actually
working in the industry and actually collecting. So I would
expect to see some some stuff in the future. My
favorite part of that commercial though, was at the very
end when the Sun asked if he could have it,
and the dad had to pull back to the old hobby. No, no, Sun,
it's not yours yet. Eventually you get it, but no,
not yet. How much is it worth?
Speaker 2: How much is it worth?
Speaker 1: He goes everything exactly exactly. I love it. It was great.
But yeah, the the mic trout stuff, I loved it.
You know, some people say at stage, but you know
who knows. We'll see get a couple of comments and here, guys,
if any of you are or went to Fanatics Best also, uh,
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link is in the chat. Here we go. We got
Jeff's card journey. He still drinks coke because of me
and Joe Green, Mike Petty mister Coffee because of DiMaggio.
I still eat crunch bars and drink Sprite because of
Grant Hill. I get it. So you know it is
what it is. But let's see. Here we go. I
did see a comment I wanted to get to earlier.
Let me pull it up. We were in the middle
of a discussion, but I wanted to from that seventies show.
Here we go. Okay, so he just got back from Fanatics. Guys,
paid three hundred and ninety five dollars for an autograph
from a metrodome usher from the nineteen eighty seven Twins
World Series. I got a steal. Sorry, I loved it.
Had to just throw that one in. That was a
good one, all right. Just checking some comments here right now.
There you go, love bourbon because of Mantle. There you go.
Gotta love it, all right, So we'll move on now, Guys,
if you haven't seen, there's a new card in the
hobby that's kind of taken the hobby by storm right now.
At least it can't be pulled from a pack, so
nobody can seek scan this one. But it's getting a
lot of attention, and of course every everyone with a
lot of disposable income or a nice backer likes to
do these days. Bounties have been that have been put
up for this card. We're talking, of course, about the
Olympic Triple Auto that is coming out. It is the
first tops Lebron auto ever and it is a trip
Auto from tops Now featuring Steph Curry, Kevin Durant and
Lebron James. Now, you had to buy one of the
bass cards of this and one of the base cards
are going to in addition to that, you're going to
get parallels and then one person is going to get
this card right here, a triple Auto which looks beautiful,
and I mean it's Team USA legends. Kevin Durant absolutely
deserves to be on there, especially being a Team USA.
But Jeff Wilson, of course started off at one hundred K,
which is laughable, plus a card shop HQ VIP experience
which means absolutely nothing, so that adds zero value. But
he put up that, He put up that bounty, and
then the great Guy's over at Grand Slam put up
one hundred and fifty dollars bounty. Golden's getting into the mix.
Everyone's kind of boundying up this card. We all knew
it was worth a lot more than that, you know,
one hundred K that they tried to do. But what
do you guys think about this card? And every think
because this is this is pretty huge. This is a
massive card. This is his not only Lebron's first not
only his first, uh you know one that he's done,
but in addition to that, it's also got you know,
three of the greatest USA Olympians ever on it. So
what do you think about this card and when do
you think about the bounties and where this card's value
probably actually goes.
Speaker 3: I love the card. I mean I love the people
that they chose for it's Steph had unreal Olympics what
Lebron's one of the best players ever, and Katie's probably
the most decorated US Olympian ever. He's been doing it
for a while. And I bought a copy, so if
you don't see me for a couple of months, you
might know why.
Speaker 1: No, hey, I bought ten, so I you know, I'm
right there with you. I bought ten of them.
Speaker 2: And that's not a sticker auto right, that's on card.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is on card. This is on card. Now,
normally this stuff is put in when they do an
autograph variation like this, it's normally a redemption. I do
not think this one will be a redemption. I think
this card's so big and that it was done at
the Olympics. I think that they're going to be and
that the season hasn't started, but everyone's getting together and
he has such a good relationship with all these players.
I think this card will actually be sent to someone
in one of those packages. The way they do it
is you'll get your regular tops Now card and if
you get a parallel or the one of one auto
uh and they do have colored parallels, you get that
in addition to the card you ordered, so it would
be an extra card that came with the order. But yes,
absolutely le Rock Lottery tickets baby, But if not, they're
really cool cards. I bought ten of them because they're
really cool cards. I'll grade a couple, sell a couple,
and keep it as a memory. Because, like Brody said,
they picked if we're going for this generation and not
the nineties dream Team, if we're going to this generation
of USA basketball, I think you picked the three best
players of this generation. I don't think you can argue
anyone else should be on that card when it comes
to even all of the last couple Olympics, like not
just this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree it for me if they made one
with Jordan Bird and Magic from the ninety two Dream Team,
that that would be more for me. But I totally
agree for the newer generation, those are the three guys.
And with Jeff Wilson, do you think he's putting that
bounty out because he wants the card for his collection
or is he trying to buy it and then sell
it now?
Speaker 1: No, Jeff Wilson put that one hundred thousand dollars bounty
out for no reason other than to get people to
talk to talk about Jeff Wilson. He knew no one
was going to take that hundred thousand dollars bounty. He
knew someone was going to one up him. But for
three days, what did everyone talk about on social media?
They talked about the cards HQ and Jeff Wilson and
his bounty. He's a marketing guy. He comes from a
marketing background. He owns a marketing firm. He knows what
he's doing. That is an advertisement that he paid nothing
for that got him probably a ton of attention. So
he accomplished exactly what he wanted. But make no mistake
about it, he had no intention of that person selling
it to him for one hundred thousand dollars. He knew
that someone else was going to pay a lot more
for that card. Whether it's tops Now or in a pack,
it does not matter. That card is going to be
a card that you probably will never see again.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And it captures a moment in time that is iconic.
And we've seen these cards before. This goes well and
beyond a standard tops now card. This is much bigger
than that. And so he knew that that wasn't gonna happen.
That was just advertising at least in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like this is somehow somebody sold it
to him, then it would just be another marketing thing.
We have the one of one triple aato at cards
each tu better come down to Atlanta and see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he'd be mailed. There'd be eight hundred
videos on that thing. But normally you don't bouncey something
often normally there's bounce are only put up once they
know they have a buyer, Like these are normally set up.
They already have the buyer, they already have stuff. But
what tells me how important this card is and how
badly people want it? We see bounties all the time
for the one to one super of this or whatever
it is, but there's always the pre wreck of it
has to be pulled within a month. It has to
be graded a PSA ten, it has to be all
of this. There's no prerecks on this stuff. It's if
you get this card, we're going to pay you this.
And they're trying to do lower amounts of money and
then add in extra stuff like Ken Golden offering stuff
on you know, I think like a spot on his
show and like part of the auction, you know, fees
and all this type of stuff. But yeah, one hundred
and fifty guarantee listed in a lot as one of
his auctions and a spot on his show, so you
know they're trying to add in. Jeff had his cards
HQ experience, so you get to walk around and know
overpriced card shop empty, and you know everyone's adding in
these extra things because they don't want to spend more money.
But you know, we'll see what it actually goes for.
I think that this card probably is a two hundred
and fifty three hundred thousand dollars sale. I would say
that's probably where it gets up to. But all these
companies are very smart by putting these bounties out because
it's amazing publicity. You know, no matter what, like you're
getting incredible publicity. Every influencer or anybody that's on Twitter
that's you know that runs an account talking about news,
Instagram talking about news. As soon as those bounty videos
and stuff are up, everyone's reposting it, so you know
they're getting what they want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that card or that card, Like a lot
of these cards that I see come out now with
the bounties and stuff, a lot of times I'll look
at them and say, man, that that card on the
road's not going to be worth anything near what it's
going to go for. But that card, that card's going
a lot going for it with not only the guys
on it. It's a one of one, but it's also
going to have nostalgia to it in the future because
people are gonna remember that that Olympics with Steph Curry
going crazy in the in the closeout game, the gold
medal game, and it reminds me of you know, that
card from ninety two score it's a triple Atto with
Stanley's Mantle and Carl Yastremski and they made five hundred
of those, and that card still goes for thousands of
dollars and there's five hundred of that triple atto. So imagine,
you know, down the road, this card is going.
Speaker 2: To be very, very valuable.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And not only that, it's Lebron's first ever
tops auto, right, it's his first ever tops auto. That
lineage and that part alone, I mean that is going
to matter. That that stuff is going to are big time.
So it's they've already said it will be the first
Lebron Auto that hits collector's hands. Here's the Ken Golden video.
I'm not gonna put the audio on it because he's
got subtitles, but Ken Golden putting up, you know, another
bounty for this card. So it's pretty interesting grading costs
on that card. I would assume that PSA will probably
grade it for free. I would assume that anybody that
you made any type of deal with you could say
that you want it graded for free. I doubt the
person that gets this card pays one cent for grading,
because honestly, PSA bgs whoever they go with, they're gonna
want it in that slab, and any of the companies
that are putting out these bounties, they'll gladly pay those fees.
Chances are PSA is probably gonna waive them. But if
someone just submitted it randomly. You're probably looking at about
twelve hundred bucks, fifteen hundred bucks maybe you know, maybe
two grand degrade to cards something like that. Maybe a
little bit more, but something around that. It's not gonna
be twenty k degraded a PSA. They're gonna type two
cards like that, iconic cards like that. As someone that
dealt in this industry and dealt with a PSA REP
for a long time, when it comes to cards like that,
deals are struck. It's not always the same as just
when you send something in and they do their general
up charges. There's lots of bending when it comes to
that type of stuff. I will say that, so no
one's paying that much to grade that card. They just
want it in that slab. I was just put it
in one of these awesome Zion cases. Personally, you can
create your own custom Olympic flip, you know, get it
all set up and you know, I think it would
look better, but hey, that's yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would look good.
Speaker 3: It's also I feel like, really iconic card. Because people
that watch Ally's Olympics, a lot of people didn't think
they're gonna pick the finals. They were losing the Servia
by double digits, and that France game was tight too.
It wasn't like the ninety two Dream Team where every
game was a blowout after blowout after bullout.
Speaker 1: This was tough games well, and you had the iconic
Curry performance. I mean, let's be honest, Steph Curry in
the Olympics. That was the most That game was one
of the most incredible performances I've ever seen in an
Olympic game. Jordan esque if you want to say it.
I mean, I've seen so many video the three where
he was I think could three or four people were
on him and he still takes the three and just
drains it that any other players getting benched and probably
kicked off of a regular team, and you're giving Curry
that green light on all day long. That just shows
you where he was and what he was doing. It was.
It was insane, and so yeah, I agree, this is
this is an Olympic we're going to look back on,
and I think this is one of the best Olympic
US men's teams we've seen of this modern era as well,
And so you know, I think that card's going to
be awfully big. I'm excited to see the stuff come out.
Hopefully it's not a redemption. Hopefully the card's actually in
the pack so we can see people open it and
get it. I'd love to see that instead of the
redemption uh in the mail. I think that would make
a cool video. But we'll see. But someone's getting an
absolutely amazing card.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be crazy if you ever got it decided
I'm just gonna keep it.
Speaker 2: I'm not selling this one. I don't I don't need
the money right now.
Speaker 7: That's what I want to see is if someone pulls it,
that's like I want it, like yeah, like it's staying
with me.
Speaker 2: That Yep.
Speaker 1: It's the card on the commercial. It's the card on
the top commercial that he won't give his kid. It's
not a one on one O tany it's the triple auto.
Oh beautiful. If you got it, you'd never know what's up.
Twenty five Press, TTM have DD slaving great. It much
better than the Big three. Yep. There's there's lots of
companies out there. There's you know, there's no reason, there's
really no reason to create the card. That's why I
said Zion cases, because I mean the card the greatest six.
It's not going to knock its value one bit. The
card is the card. It is what it is, unless
it's just completely utterly destroyed, which I highly doubt is
going to happen. Grading it is really pointless, I mean,
just outside of protection, outside of just keeping the elements
away from it, stuff like that. I agree. Foul Ball, well,
well that depends. A real collector might sell it because
they could they could be a huge basket or they
could be a baseball wrestling any other fan. But you know,
buy a couple of these cards because it's a cool
one and they got a shot at a neat card,
buy it, sell it. Who's to say they don't take
all that money and dump it right back into baseball
cards for themselves, Like I mean, just because someone sells something.
I mean, the hobby wouldn't exist if people didn't sell
their cards. So I mean, there's no reason to think
that just because you're selling it, it's just taking the money.
You know, you never know, right, I mean, yes, there's
a lot of people that are you know, deal with
everything just for money nowadays and things like that. But
it's also easier to see that's I've been going on
for a long time at the old mall card shows
things like that for years in the eighties, nineties and everything,
But we didn't have social media, so there wasn't videos
of all of it, and the regular person, the regular collector,
didn't know about that world and so and now we do,
and so you know, there's a lot of different factors
that kind of go into that, at least in my opinion.
But you know, I sell quite a few cards by
other cards that I like.
Speaker 2: Brody, You'd sell it, right, I'd sell it. I'd sell it.
Speaker 3: I mean that's probably all four years of my college
and some probably Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike Petty says, probably the only card in the last
forty years worth keeping. Now, I'm a big nineties guy,
so I'm not going to go forty years because late
nineties I absolutely love. But I will say in terms
of maybe the last fifteen or so, it's probably one of,
if not the card to keep of the last fifteen years.
I would probably say that. I don't think there's a
bigger card Personally.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get Mike Petty collector ninety cards, and within
the next year, Mike Petty's going to be a nineties collector.
Speaker 1: I hope. So I can't wait. I can't wait till
the like Kobe's stuff, my era, the ninety six to
ninety nine. I can't wait till that hits vintage territory
because then people have to acknowledge it. But the guys,
we are close to wrapping up to the show. Before
I go, I do want to ask you guys one question.
What do you think when this card sells? What do
you think it sells for?
Speaker 3: I'd say somewhere one fifty to two undid, and I'm
going to be a little conservative on it and not Okay, well,
you know, I'm ready to see what it sells for,
and if it sells for more, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll say I'll say two hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: All right. So you guys are going with around the
bounties and things like that. I actually think the card
goes for three fifty eight to four, And I would
not be surprised if this card eventually one day comes
very close to Uh. I could see this coming close
to a million dollar card one day. Honestly could.
Speaker 3: Think of it.
Speaker 4: That triple logo man Lebron right sold for that was
just Lebron It was Yeah, I know that had patches
and stuff, but that was a million, right, So yeah,
you're probably right.
Speaker 1: The more I'm never good at these, I can easily
see this card selling for a million dollars for the
simple fact that it's his first tops auto and everything else.
We said, Curry Durant, who's the all time you know,
US basketball men or women leading score? Lots of you know,
the Curry Curry's auto and Curry's game in that moment
that really won the Olympics for them. I could see
a collector, and there's a lot of people that collect
Olympic stuff. Look at Olympic sales. Stuff goes huge, memorabilia
things like that. Even the Olympic chrome cards are selling
for tons of money to actual collectors. But if if
you've got some people that have deep pockets that are
big Olympic fans, I could see this going for a
million dollars. Oh yeah, just like right there where it
says it all depends if two rich people want right
there three d eighties. Good. If if some of those
people are big time Olympic collectors, I could easily see
it getting pushed up to a million. I think it's
probably closer to three fifty to five something like that.
But it's gonna be interesting to see because that is
a huge, huge, huge card. But guys, I guess we
will do you guys, love Jeff. I don't know, I
don't know who Jeff, what the Jeff is, but I
love Jeff.
Speaker 8: But guys, that is going to wrap up Episode three
hundred and thirteen Hobby Hotline before we go, Brody, first bunch,
you let everybody know where they can find you and
anything you got going.
Speaker 3: On Oh, Twitter, Brody t Kid, Instagram, Brody the Kid one,
and I've been posting a lot more on YouTube, so
if you want to check my YouTube channel up, that'd
be great. Got my fantasy football draft tonight, so I'm
ready for that. And I got a little bit of
a funny thing and maybe he's watching so I can
get a little laugh out of him. So I got
my APUs history textbook.
Speaker 1: And the first offer is John Newman? What nice?
Speaker 3: How does this guy have time to do all the
shows he does this show and write a PUS history textbook?
That'sis And say to me, brought of applause, Newman.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, he I completely agree Newman. H Newman's a grinder.
Very hard worker, loves loves, loves what he does, whether
it's school cards or anything. Puts his heart into anything,
and uh does a lot for this show and a
ton of other stuff. But yes, new textbook that mister
Newman wrote. I feel sorry for the kids, but you know,
he just kidding John. But Adam. Also, anything you got
going on where we can find yet, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just I go buy splendid sports on YouTube and
you know Instagram. Uh, I don't really have much going
on right now. I'm out here in Arizona. It's it's
really hot, so we're just trying to get through the summer.
I don't really have too much in the hobby. Other
I'm just keep collecting, That's what I'm just keep trying
to not spend any new money on cards. I've put
in a lot of money over the last few years,
So just trying to sell some cards like you were
talking about, to fund anything new.
Speaker 2: I get. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: There you go, Well, I'll be set up at the
Winston Salem Dash Stadium on the twenty fourth myself selling
some cards. So if you're in Winston Salem, make sure
to stop by. Of course you can find me let
me get that potograph on All Socials LGTP podcast. Also,
I have my new article up on hobby News Daily
Iconic Inserts where you take a look at rock stars,
an insert that was a one and done in nineteen
ninety seven, but it's coming back with the new Top
Chrom release. So excited about that. But guys, we will
be back next week with all new cast of characters.
Thank you so much for tuning in today, but we'll
see you next week. Peace out, guys,