Speaker 1: Oh red Fessor, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob and today is Tuesday, Cult Member Live Day.
Speaker 1: Baby, it's that day.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to another cluster. As we say, this crazy
Speaker 3: train has no conductor. We don't even know the direction
Speaker 3: we're going. We have no cult leaders here, only cult members,
Speaker 3: as you all know, and we're just gonna go where
Speaker 3: it goes. You know, Honestly, I've been hearing so many
Speaker 3: wild things just in the zeitgeist this past week, dude,
Speaker 3: some geopolitical, some otherwise. It's just I honestly can't even
Speaker 3: go on YouTube and scroll down without the first somewhere
Speaker 3: in the first three things being some off the wall
Speaker 3: shit that I'm just like, I'm sorry, what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's it's never calming down. It's
Speaker 2: just gonna stay pedal to the metal as crazy as
Speaker 2: it's always going to get.
Speaker 1: But I just want to know, then.
Speaker 3: Buy a robot that's hooked up to actual human brain neurons.
Speaker 4: That's a thing that's for sale right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're growing them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the musician guy, the composer guy. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it is hypiostasis.
Speaker 6: Lee.
Speaker 3: I'm fucking that word up whatever, like secured brain cells
Speaker 3: that are operating the computer for you.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like what.
Speaker 2: Bro, they just had a movie come out about that.
Speaker 2: It was a Netflix movie. I I it was. Who
Speaker 2: was in it Chris Pratt and uh cat not Catness,
Speaker 2: uh fuck eleven from Stranger Things.
Speaker 3: Bro, the future is now. The future is now? And
Speaker 3: I mean yeah that we could. We could literally make
Speaker 3: a list of how many things that's gonna do conspiratorially,
Speaker 3: also a list of how many like that's while for
Speaker 3: technological advancement things. But it's like, Bro, I was just
Speaker 3: looking for kill Tony, Like, I didn't expect to be
Speaker 3: smacked with that, Like what what did I do?
Speaker 4: I just got here?
Speaker 1: Now you you messed around and and you fucked up? Man,
Speaker 1: That's what I get.
Speaker 2: In other news, I last night, right before the show
Speaker 2: that we shot last night, I decided to spill a
Speaker 2: cup of coffee, a cup of coffee all over my
Speaker 2: mixer and it's your circuited. And I was able to
Speaker 2: get through the show. I had to hold a button
Speaker 2: down to talk. But this morning, whenever I went to
Speaker 2: go fire that baby up. She said, no, she said
Speaker 2: she had enough, been having her for about three years.
Speaker 2: Now got my money's worth out of it.
Speaker 1: That's okay.
Speaker 2: But now I had to go over to get guitar
Speaker 2: Center and so get a new mixer today. So that's
Speaker 2: just lovely, you know. But you know, I'm pretty excited
Speaker 2: about this one. Although, like so, if I sound weird,
Speaker 2: or if I'm sounding higher or lower than everybody else,
Speaker 2: it's because I'm still working on the setting. So that's
Speaker 2: why I just wanted to tell everybody that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, we got the voice modulation.
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, it's about time. It's about damn time. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, let's get over the chat. Alexandra said, sup, y'all,
Speaker 2: here's your daily past. To say, faggot. Just had to
Speaker 2: throw that out there.
Speaker 3: They got for the first Amendment because otherwise we'd have
Speaker 3: been canceled by now strictly because of our resident trans correspondent.
Speaker 3: It's wild that we would have gotten canceled for being
Speaker 3: so inclusive. But you know, this is the day and
Speaker 3: age we live in, and this currently is Donald Trump's America,
Speaker 3: so we get to say things anyway.
Speaker 2: I feel like we would be misogynists and racists and
Speaker 2: all the other things.
Speaker 1: If we didn't say it when we were asked.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I do believe that we. I
Speaker 3: don't think we've ever been considered racist. We did make
Speaker 3: a thing once upon a time about how George Floyd
Speaker 3: was a crackhead who like, you know, these things. We
Speaker 3: got some hate saying that we were racist on that one,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I'm sorry, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, well you also you also called Eskimos savages
Speaker 2: and they didn't like that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7: I referred to them as Eskimos, and boy, oh boy,
Speaker 7: did I find out that that was an insult.
Speaker 3: I had no fucking idea. Eskimo's living in Incluse thought
Speaker 3: that was the thing.
Speaker 4: They're called Inuit.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of things, but I don't know
Speaker 3: all the tribes like subreddits my bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was hilarious. They were like, dude, they
Speaker 2: were so but hurt. They were like, you, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: I was like, namn, I mean, And I guess I
Speaker 3: have been shitting on the Gypsy's a good bit lately.
Speaker 3: We did have our one Irish Gypsy correspondent hit us
Speaker 3: up to let us know that he was upset by
Speaker 3: what I was saying. So I guess the Roma people
Speaker 3: could claim that I'm being racist to them, But I mean, like.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of racism, Tony said, it's okay to be
Speaker 2: racist to redheads because they have no souls. Also, there's
Speaker 2: been a large part of the black community that has
Speaker 2: come out and said that redheads are black actually, and
Speaker 2: they're just their skin's just a little off.
Speaker 4: That is the wildest shit I've heard it too. It's
Speaker 4: now hmmm.
Speaker 3: So scientifically speaking, they say that redheads are the closest
Speaker 3: genetically to our Neanderthal predecessors.
Speaker 4: So the fact that the black community is.
Speaker 3: Coming out with that right now is just kind of like,
Speaker 3: that's that's a claim.
Speaker 4: That is one of the most claims that I've ever
Speaker 4: been claimed.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't personally believe that redheads are black, but sure,
Speaker 3: that's that's a standpoint to take. Sure, I guess, I.
Speaker 2: Guess the redheaded giant that would be committing a racist
Speaker 2: act if they tried to take out the Giant of Kandahar, then, right.
Speaker 3: Bro, Listen, I've heard from multiple sources, multiple sources that
Speaker 3: were in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: Listen, most of the country couldn't fucking read.
Speaker 3: Okay, But everyone knew not to go into the mountains
Speaker 3: at night because they had giants there. Hundreds of miles
Speaker 3: away villages that have never these people never went to
Speaker 3: the mountains, but they had already had heard the rumors
Speaker 3: before Americans ever stepped foot there, and it was an
Speaker 3: understood thing. They got giants in the mountains in Kandahar.
Speaker 3: Don't go out there at night. So you do with
Speaker 3: that what you want.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about giants.
Speaker 4: Oh, come on, with all the stuff.
Speaker 3: We take away the nephelum thing, take away whatever cultural
Speaker 3: religious reasons for the giants existing, okay, because that's when
Speaker 3: people start to get it skewed.
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3: You're telling me that you don't believe in any giants
Speaker 3: or have ever been historically speaking.
Speaker 2: I mean giant like Andre the Giant, like like the
Speaker 2: Big Show. Those are giants of men Shaquille O'Neal giants, right,
Speaker 2: but like taller, like ten feet dude.
Speaker 3: They have found graves of dudes that were twelve foot
Speaker 3: with their skeletal remains.
Speaker 1: I mean that's but then.
Speaker 3: That in that same sentence, they've also found dinosaurs. So
Speaker 3: I mean, like where we draw on this line.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not that I don't believe. I just
Speaker 2: find it hard to believe.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like there would still be more giants
Speaker 2: today that like they wouldn't be tapping out at eight
Speaker 2: feet like, cause there are eight feet people today. You
Speaker 2: know they're big as fuck, but you never hear about
Speaker 2: a nine footer, never hear about a time.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it depends.
Speaker 3: Also, look at the day and age right for their
Speaker 3: like their dietary availability would only allow them to grow
Speaker 3: so tall.
Speaker 4: I've heard that argument before.
Speaker 3: Like you see this furniture from even the Civil War era,
Speaker 3: and it seems like it's not children's furniture, but it's
Speaker 3: somewhere between our modern day furniture and a child's furniture,
Speaker 3: and it's like, no, people were just smaller back then.
Speaker 3: That's why Abe Lincoln being so tall was like so crazy,
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't a giant, Like you know, he was
Speaker 3: taller even by our modern standards, but if you look
Speaker 3: at pictures of him next to his general contemporaries, he's
Speaker 3: like a foot and a half taller, and they were like, whoa,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is up with this guy? So you
Speaker 3: take that back two thousand years. Yeah, they were living,
Speaker 3: but they weren't like at the best possible peak physical condition.
Speaker 3: They didn't have the best dietary science, like they were
Speaker 3: surviving to a degree. And yeah, if you had this guy,
Speaker 3: everybody else on the battlefield is like five to seven,
Speaker 3: five six, five to five, then you got some seven
Speaker 3: and a half foot dude stepping out like.
Speaker 4: All right, hold on, they got giants?
Speaker 3: What the fuck? Like I could see it.
Speaker 2: I actually, I actually have a theory that I've been
Speaker 2: working on because look, we're we're the cult of conspiracy. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I got meta mysteries. Sometimes those worlds collide, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: just who I am. And I've really been trying to
Speaker 2: look at everything from an esoteric lens, like literally everything
Speaker 2: out there, and I really been diving like into the Bible,
Speaker 2: and you know the lineage from Moses and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Dude, did you know there's oh yeah, dude, did you
Speaker 1: know that there's literally a so every single name in.
Speaker 2: The Bible it has a meaning, right, Yeah? Did you
Speaker 2: know that the lineage where it starts I believe at
Speaker 2: Moses or no, where it starts at Adam, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: where it starts at Adam and finishes at Jesus. Literally,
Speaker 2: it creates sentences like in line sentences.
Speaker 1: Did you know that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have to look at the translations
Speaker 3: and all these things.
Speaker 1: But like you, dude, dude, it is nuts.
Speaker 2: And so what I was doing is is I was
Speaker 2: trying and to translate the names into the sentences and
Speaker 2: seeing what the sentences mean esoterically. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: lie I stumbled across what I mean. This is just
Speaker 2: my own perspective whatever. Not everybody agrees on what the
Speaker 2: Nephelom were, whether there were angels that came down and
Speaker 2: fucked regular human chicks. I'm actually of the belief that
Speaker 2: there never was an angel that came down and mated
Speaker 2: with a human.
Speaker 3: I would, I personally believe that because once they fall,
Speaker 3: they're no longer classified as angels.
Speaker 2: I think with your thought, I think that humanity fell.
Speaker 2: And so this is where it's gonna get wild. So
Speaker 2: you have and I know that witchcraft and magic and
Speaker 2: all that stuff really wasn't huge all the way back
Speaker 2: then as far as I know, what were those uh
Speaker 2: shit you.
Speaker 3: Say back then? Like do we have like a ballpark
Speaker 3: BC year range you're talking or were you just talking
Speaker 3: like prehistory pre written history, which you.
Speaker 2: Mean, well, I think, uh so, we don't really have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of information on the Druids, right Like,
Speaker 2: there's like.
Speaker 3: Almost only religious group that were successfully wiped off the
Speaker 3: earth by the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: And they did well at protecting all of their knowledge
Speaker 2: by keeping it word of mouth and never writing it down.
Speaker 1: Right now, I never.
Speaker 4: Wrote shit down.
Speaker 1: The fucking idiots. No, they were a genius for doing that.
Speaker 3: I think, what dude, playing game of telephone over a
Speaker 3: thousand years and you're expecting the sentence to say the
Speaker 3: correct sentence.
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, you're talking about handing down wisdom. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, that's that's That's what
Speaker 1: I think is really going on.
Speaker 2: But anyway, what I'm thinking is this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a wild and out there theory. But what I think
Speaker 2: is that the the Old Testament, how it starts with
Speaker 2: Adam and then with Eve and all the dude, I
Speaker 2: think that there's a chance that what they could be
Speaker 2: talking about is Atlantis.
Speaker 4: The Garden of Eden was Atlantis.
Speaker 2: I think it's very well possible because if you hear listen,
Speaker 2: if you hear the Atlantis story, what people have to
Speaker 2: say about Atlantis. And yes, I know what sources to trust, whatever, but.
Speaker 1: There seems to be.
Speaker 2: A theme that most people agree upon whenever it comes
Speaker 2: to the story of Atlantis and the Atlanteans. Right now,
Speaker 2: first of all, we call them Atlantis. We don't know
Speaker 2: what they called themselves. We don't know what they called
Speaker 2: themselves or whatever. Right, It's it's very well possible that
Speaker 2: what happened was so the theme is is that they
Speaker 2: ended up this is what a lot of people agree on,
Speaker 2: that they ended up advancing so far and almost like
Speaker 2: with a lot of different spiritual things. That's what a
Speaker 2: lot of people say. They advance very far as far
Speaker 2: as like spiritual kind of stuff, whether it be magic
Speaker 2: or whatever, prayer, anything like whatever is like supernatural almost,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that what they did was
Speaker 2: that they were able to encompass divine oneness in a sense,
Speaker 2: and then they used that against themselves and basically like
Speaker 2: took everybody mass suicide. I don't want to say commit
Speaker 2: mass suicide, but I think that's.
Speaker 4: So enlightened that they deleted themselves.
Speaker 2: Because there there is a light and a dark to
Speaker 2: the oneness. Whether you call it the universe or God
Speaker 2: or whatever, there's always going to be like half good,
Speaker 2: half evil. That's just the way we live in that
Speaker 2: kind of world' is the yennang And what I think
Speaker 2: was is that the flood supposedly that came. I think
Speaker 2: that that flood is what was supposed to be wiping
Speaker 2: out Atlantis. Now I'm probably not the first person with
Speaker 2: this theory, but after going and understanding the lineage from
Speaker 2: Adam to Jesus, it makes a lot of sense that
Speaker 2: these people were not Nephelum. But what they did was
Speaker 2: is that they were able to So the idea that
Speaker 2: angels came down and with Earth people, right, is it
Speaker 2: possible that they found a way to be able to
Speaker 2: ignite the spark within them that would connect them two
Speaker 2: angelic type powers and then used it for evil, Because
Speaker 2: that's kind of like it's kind of like the the
Speaker 2: Nephelum story in reverse in a sense if you look
Speaker 2: at it like that, I don't know, I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: like I would ask with all this, like mystery School
Speaker 2: esoteric type shit like that's that's been my jam.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm not trying to like discredit your theory.
Speaker 3: Let me give you a couple of things that might
Speaker 3: help you work on it and form it a little further. Okay,
Speaker 3: So Garden of Eden was where the Tigris and the
Speaker 3: Euphrates meet. There was also two other ancient rivers that
Speaker 3: are no longer there, but it was what we would
Speaker 3: now call Iraq, right, that's where and they even name
Speaker 3: the Tigris.
Speaker 4: And Euphrates rivers. Okay, So point one, Atlantis was not
Speaker 4: in Iraq.
Speaker 3: Fuck, maybe it was. Maybe it's under the sand, I
Speaker 3: don't know. Point two, the global flood was Noah. So
Speaker 3: as far as the Atlantis story and all of that,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to, like, you know,
Speaker 3: shit all over your theory here, but maybe you could
Speaker 3: work going a little further towhere.
Speaker 4: It was Noah's.
Speaker 3: Generation that was Atlantis, not Adam and Eve, because Adam
Speaker 3: and Eve were the only two that were ever allowed
Speaker 3: in the Garden of Eden and they were kicked out.
Speaker 4: Their kids weren't even there.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that, I'm aware what I I yes, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, is that because Noah was around for like
Speaker 2: a long time, right, like a couple of nine hundred years.
Speaker 2: Nine hundred years, that's a long ass time. It almost
Speaker 2: seems like bro people did that, right, You could say
Speaker 2: a different type of people did that, not just.
Speaker 3: I mean it was a Samerian king's list, one of
Speaker 3: them homeboys like reigned for thirty two thousand years or
Speaker 3: some wild shit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, both was around for a long ass time too,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like you got sure, you got
Speaker 2: like a lot of these, whether you believe it or not.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the myth the story because we
Speaker 2: can't there's no way to verify if somebody lived nine
Speaker 2: hundred fucking years.
Speaker 1: You know, let's just be real here, right.
Speaker 2: So there's belief and then there's myth, and sometimes people
Speaker 2: like to confuse the two, and so whenever we're talking
Speaker 2: about this, dude, I think that there has to be
Speaker 2: some kind of encoding here because I've been really digging
Speaker 2: into it and I'm trying to understand it from and
Speaker 2: this is like what the Rosicrucians do. They look at
Speaker 2: the Bible very esoterically, right, And I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: I'm following everything that they're saying, but I'm putting myself
Speaker 2: in the mindset of thinking how they might think.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason why the Rosicrusions were such
Speaker 3: a prominent group in their heyday. They've definitely fallen by
Speaker 3: the wayside, but they're still around.
Speaker 4: You know. It's like free Masons.
Speaker 3: Their heyday is a few decades ago, but they're still
Speaker 3: around for sure. Now there's reasons why, Like the Rosicrusions
Speaker 3: have been considered a heretical group, Like they may take
Speaker 3: segments from the Bible, but they are not Christians, the
Speaker 3: same way the Masons.
Speaker 4: They take all kinds of stories from.
Speaker 3: The Old Testament, but when you get to that upper
Speaker 3: level you learn who you were shipping, it's obviously you're
Speaker 3: not Christian.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's what two thousand different sects
Speaker 2: of Christianity, in each one of them call the other
Speaker 2: one heretical in some kind of way.
Speaker 4: I don't like that personally, I don't.
Speaker 3: I may not like the way that the Catholics do
Speaker 3: their thing, but I may not agree with it. I
Speaker 3: should say, I don't call them heretics. I don't agree
Speaker 3: with the way Baptists do it, but I don't call
Speaker 3: them heretics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's but my guy, you're to your point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of these people will call everyone else
Speaker 3: other than their thought process heretical and non divinely inspired
Speaker 3: and this and this.
Speaker 4: It's like, motherfucker, just read the book.
Speaker 1: Read the book exactly.
Speaker 2: And so whenever you're reading about Mary, you know, Jesus' mom,
Speaker 2: and you're just looking at her like, oh, that was
Speaker 2: just Jesus' mom. There's nothing really that special about her,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did.
Speaker 2: Howls the the the Holy of Holies, I guess for
Speaker 2: for a little while, and she brought them into this world.
Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe was some kind of divine temporary vessel
Speaker 2: to be able to incorporate this divine type of being. Right,
Speaker 2: but the Catholics are just like almost was and what
Speaker 2: with Jesus with Mary, right.
Speaker 3: Dude, not, wasn't what they see her as the mother
Speaker 3: of God because Jesus was God on earth and like, hey,
Speaker 3: calling her womb the arc of the New Covenant, it
Speaker 3: should be seen as special as the ark of the Covenant.
Speaker 3: And I'm with you, one hundred percent with you on this.
Speaker 3: But as soon as you mentioned that Jesus had four
Speaker 3: brothers and two sisters, all of a sudden, people get
Speaker 3: up in their arms and it's like, wait, no, no, that's
Speaker 3: not even Jacob's words. That's in the Book of John.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a gospel that you acknowledged to be true.
Speaker 3: And so that means that Joseph and Mary had other kids.
Speaker 3: She died a virgin. The Bible says she didn't. I
Speaker 3: didn't say that, Like Jacob didn't say this, it did.
Speaker 3: Y'all are getting mad at y'all's Holy book sounds like
Speaker 3: a you problem, my boy, that you see what I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna like that after looking into a lot of this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, I don't believe that she was a virgin.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I never really did believe that she
Speaker 1: was a virgin.
Speaker 2: I know that that could be seen as heresy just
Speaker 2: even saying that, or beligerent or whatever. Right, but if
Speaker 2: you really think about it, like, and we've talked about
Speaker 2: all the other myths that have some kind of uh,
Speaker 2: virgin birth virgin birth right, like sure, and this wasn't
Speaker 2: the first. And that's not to say that they're liars.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, But what I am to say
Speaker 2: is is, what if it's more symbolic then it is literal.
Speaker 2: And that's the kind of the way I've been looking
Speaker 2: at a lot of this stuff is what if every
Speaker 2: single thing that we read in a lot of these
Speaker 2: ancient books and scriptures and myths and legends and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, what if we're like so stupid that we
Speaker 2: take them literal when we're supposed to be understanding and
Speaker 2: garnering the symbolic means behind what the story is talking about.
Speaker 4: Now, as Mike A. Dankshit right there.
Speaker 2: Now, here's the thing though, because you actually agree with me,
Speaker 2: that agree with me on that for a couple of
Speaker 2: the Biblical stories, right, the Jonah and the Whale story,
Speaker 2: you don't think that actually happened. You think that it
Speaker 2: was probably more mythological, right, it was just a story
Speaker 2: to go around.
Speaker 4: Parts of it. Parts of it.
Speaker 3: Jonah did finally make his way to Damascus and preach there,
Speaker 3: which is the entire point of the story, but the
Speaker 3: whole him getting swallowed by the belly of the whale thing, like,
Speaker 3: there's no whales in that section of the Mediterranean, So like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck. But at the same time, if God
Speaker 3: made a whale appear and do that, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that it's if God didn't will it to happen.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't happen.
Speaker 3: But like, that's that's one of those stories that's like, okay,
Speaker 3: what was the message.
Speaker 4: But also if you were to take it literally, then
Speaker 4: like you get.
Speaker 3: The same message as if you were to take it metaphorically,
Speaker 3: because there's more to that story, perfect example as a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, and this is one of those that
Speaker 3: can't be verified.
Speaker 4: But also there's more to the Jonah story.
Speaker 3: So once he gets spit up on the beach cool,
Speaker 3: he is outside the walls of Damascus.
Speaker 4: Obviously God wants you to get up here and do
Speaker 4: your job. What does he do?
Speaker 3: He lays down and take a nap under a fucking
Speaker 3: tree that had a little shade for it, not like
Speaker 3: a big, big tree, like a little like a brush tree.
Speaker 4: He laid down and takes a nap.
Speaker 3: He saw a worm crawling up the tree, and he
Speaker 3: decided rather than pick the worm off and you know,
Speaker 3: flick it out of there, he says, whatever's.
Speaker 4: Just a worm.
Speaker 3: He woke up sunburned because the worm made its way
Speaker 3: all the way up the tree and ate all the leaves.
Speaker 3: Another message to this would be if you're not even
Speaker 3: going to tend to the gifts that God gives you,
Speaker 3: then why is he.
Speaker 4: Going to take care of you?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My point is is that it doesn't have to have
Speaker 2: happened in order for you to understand the meaning from it.
Speaker 3: Right, That's how Jonah was.
Speaker 1: A real dude.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he was.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's verified, but I mean there's parts of
Speaker 3: the Bible that are meant to be metaphorical, parts that
Speaker 3: are meant to be taken with that type of you know,
Speaker 3: learn your lesson and parable type of things. Some of
Speaker 3: it's supposed to be literal, but I mean all the
Speaker 3: religions have stories like that that are supposed to be literal,
Speaker 3: and all of them have some that are supposed to
Speaker 3: be allegorical or a parable or something like that.
Speaker 4: They all got that.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you, though, if there was any
Speaker 2: way for you to verify this, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: you you die and you go to heaven and then
Speaker 2: you have a conversation with God or with Jesus or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then you come back, right, and God or Jesus,
Speaker 2: whoever's up there is like all right, look, Jacob, I
Speaker 2: just want to be real with you, Like those stories
Speaker 2: they are myths, and and you're you're doing right by
Speaker 2: like believing.
Speaker 1: That they are real.
Speaker 2: You're doing right by believing that they're real, because you're
Speaker 2: you're harnessing the energy of the story whenever you believe
Speaker 2: it literally. But that doesn't it if it didn't happen,
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily take anything away from it, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, what if that was the case? What
Speaker 2: if there Because there are people out there that don't
Speaker 2: take any part of the Bible literally, and it doesn't
Speaker 2: take away from what they're what they believe.
Speaker 3: But to that point, look, even uh, let's say Greek
Speaker 3: Greek mythology or what somebody called the ancient Greek religion, Right,
Speaker 3: Zeus comes down and fucks all these people, and that's
Speaker 3: what makes all these things happen.
Speaker 9: Yah?
Speaker 4: Yah?
Speaker 3: Is that supposed to be a metaphor for not doing
Speaker 3: certain things? Or do they believe that Zeus actually came
Speaker 3: down and did all this shit? You answer that Alexander
Speaker 3: the Great's mother believed that she was fucked by Zeus
Speaker 3: and that Philip wasn't his dad, but Zeus was his dad. Right,
Speaker 3: we have all kinds of stories and verified historical figures.
Speaker 3: A dude that actually walked the earth, that believed that
Speaker 3: the stories of their gods were so real that he
Speaker 3: is the descendant of and all these things. And it
Speaker 3: wasn't like that was just to kind of build his
Speaker 3: own myth. His mom told him that from the time
Speaker 3: he was a boy. Some here's there's all kinds of
Speaker 3: things where people should take it metaphorically and don't, and
Speaker 3: there's also times when they shouldn't take it metaphorically and
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 4: There's all I mean.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2: If if either one of my kid's mothers decided to
Speaker 2: go to the store for a pack of cigarettes and
Speaker 2: never come back and they never like you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I would probably be like, yeah, your
Speaker 2: mom was actually Medusa. I just I told her not
Speaker 2: to look at me. I hid it from behind and
Speaker 2: she birthed you. And that's really what was going on here.
Speaker 2: So that's where you came from.
Speaker 1: Like I would make up a story like that, dude,
Speaker 1: Like you would make up a story like that just
Speaker 1: to just for fucking shits and giggles.
Speaker 4: Really, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I actually thought about that A good bit would the
Speaker 3: fucking divorce from the ex wife and all that, Like, sure,
Speaker 3: but she was gonna take off and go to another
Speaker 3: country or whatever, or just start a new life somewhere.
Speaker 4: I was gonna tell the kids, mommy joined.
Speaker 3: The Peace Corps and she's in some area where they
Speaker 3: don't have contact. And I would have kept that story
Speaker 3: going till they found their own shit like nah, as
Speaker 3: I'm my job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I don't know. I'm just saying there's more
Speaker 2: than one way to skin.
Speaker 1: A cat, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: For sure?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to argue your belief means.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to tell you, like what I've been
Speaker 2: looking into.
Speaker 3: I find it interesting that you're diving into the Bible
Speaker 3: of all places, though there's so many books and so
Speaker 3: many things that you would get into here. And I've
Speaker 3: been telling you for years that I was interested for
Speaker 3: if and when you ever delved into Christian esotericism, yeah,
Speaker 3: Christian mysticism, the other things that I'm interested in, such
Speaker 3: as Buddhism and Hinduism, and you know.
Speaker 1: A lot of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily shrouded in mystery about how people are
Speaker 2: meant to understand it, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: because Buddha is a title. His real name was like
Speaker 2: said Dartha Guada Tamanomana or some shit like that, right,
Speaker 2: and and and and so it was like just a title.
Speaker 2: And then then there was a story that came from it,
Speaker 2: and you're supposed to garner the meaning of that story, right,
Speaker 2: Like he became enlightened, and so that was his path
Speaker 2: to enlightenment. And everybody's trying to recreate and reproduce that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. It's not necessarily shrouded in his it's
Speaker 2: not shrouded in mystery. Whereas I believe there's.
Speaker 3: So many ways to achieve that enlightenment, right, there's no
Speaker 3: one correct way. Everybody's trying to find their own way,
Speaker 3: which in and of itself is that big mystery.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they they have different techniques to get there.
Speaker 2: But it's not like, well, uh, it's not like something
Speaker 2: that's extremely hard to figure out how to attain. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's I'm not saying that it's
Speaker 2: hard or easy to accomplish. I'm just saying I think
Speaker 2: it's simple, more simple than it is than it is easy.
Speaker 3: You know, is the easiest religion to get acknowledge that
Speaker 3: Jesus was who he said he was and died for you.
Speaker 3: Tada boom, you have figured the grand scheme out.
Speaker 2: It's that simple, well sure, And and a lot of
Speaker 2: people do take it that way, and I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: who am I to say anything other than that? But
Speaker 2: I like to get to the deeper meaning of a
Speaker 2: lot of these things, and I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff is super super super shrouded in mystery,
Speaker 2: you know, Like it's one thing to take a myth
Speaker 2: right and try and break it down six ways to Sunday.
Speaker 1: What does it mean? What are they trying to tell us?
Speaker 1: What kind of mystical shit am I supposed to garner
Speaker 1: from this?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 2: And then there's stories that are like really really hard
Speaker 2: to figure out. You don't know why they're in there.
Speaker 2: You could have gone without without really listening to it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like old boy and his
Speaker 2: two daughters raping them like I don't, I don't know
Speaker 2: what the esoteric meaning is behind that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna host.
Speaker 3: The point the Bible, all right, and I'm not not
Speaker 3: shitting one you hear, dude, But the Bible is not
Speaker 3: meant to be taken esoterically.
Speaker 1: The reason why esoteric actually means right.
Speaker 3: Yes, the reason why Lot's daughters raped him in that
Speaker 3: whole story, which is wild as fuck, but their descendants
Speaker 3: became enemies of Israel, and it's important as to why
Speaker 3: these tribes hated Israel later on.
Speaker 4: That's it all plays in.
Speaker 2: Esoteric is looking at it from a spiritually, trying to
Speaker 2: attach your spirit to the spirit of the story essentially.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna have to Google search that one real quick,
Speaker 3: but yeah, there's my point is though lots daughters in
Speaker 3: that whole story, there's there's parts of it that play
Speaker 3: in later and that's why it was important that that
Speaker 3: was mentioned.
Speaker 4: It took me a while to look at that one either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a difference.
Speaker 2: So as far as esoterically and esoterically xoterically means that's
Speaker 2: the surface story, that's the people that are taking literally
Speaker 2: everything literal.
Speaker 1: There's no right around esoteric.
Speaker 3: Esotery means understood by or intended for only a select
Speaker 3: few who have special knowledge or.
Speaker 1: Interest yeah, yeah, initiated.
Speaker 4: That's what it means.
Speaker 3: So basically, you were not gonna learn what this means
Speaker 3: unless you're a part of the clique to know what
Speaker 3: that means. That's what esoteric means, applying it to your life. Spiritual.
Speaker 2: Part of what click though, is that a part of
Speaker 2: the eyes to hear or eyes to see and he
Speaker 2: is to hear kind of click because that's what.
Speaker 4: I think, not you just said initiated.
Speaker 3: Wholl yeah, I mean Christianity has no kind of initiation rituals.
Speaker 2: That's what they used to call it, you know. And
Speaker 2: and to be honest with you, I understand what you say.
Speaker 2: Whenever you're like, well, Christianity doesn't have any initiation rituals,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna disagree with you on that because a lot
Speaker 2: of Jewish mystics and Christian mystics, Rosa Crucians, there's so
Speaker 2: many different sectors that look at this book entirely different
Speaker 2: than the way that you do.
Speaker 1: So to say that nobody does that is wrong.
Speaker 3: The book itself says if it's done in secret, let
Speaker 3: it be brought to light. They're literally saying, there's nothing
Speaker 3: in this book that you need to hide from the world.
Speaker 3: You need to show the entire world the entirety of
Speaker 3: this book. There's no initiation rituals to be a Christian.
Speaker 3: It is saying to be a rosa Chrustian. That's not
Speaker 3: I wouldn't consider them Christians. Did Jesus ever tell you
Speaker 3: to be a Christian?
Speaker 4: He told you to follow him.
Speaker 3: We would now call the following of Christ of Christ
Speaker 3: being a Christian.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, anyway, sorry for keeping everybody waiting. I mean this.
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep going back and forth because
Speaker 2: you know we're always going to disagree on that. But
Speaker 2: spirit Animal, I'm sorry, buddy. I know you've been having
Speaker 2: your hand raised there for a minute. Go right ahead, okay.
Speaker 5: So as we know, I always love talking about the giants, right,
Speaker 5: Funny enough, all the all giants all over the world,
Speaker 5: all of them are described as being red hair from
Speaker 5: the giant of Kenderhall. To the war that the Pai
Speaker 5: people had against the giants, they were also adheaded and cannibalistic.
Speaker 5: They checked them into the the love Lock Caves up
Speaker 5: in Nevada, and they they it was a big war
Speaker 5: against them and the tribe of cannibalistic giants.
Speaker 1: They killed them all.
Speaker 5: They they drove them into They at one point they
Speaker 5: tried to try to get in the middle of the pond.
Speaker 5: They the piots, they killed them and uh, then the
Speaker 5: survivors went into a cave. Well they the pilotes. They
Speaker 5: got on top of the caves and started throwing walks
Speaker 5: and arrows and spears down it while people would while
Speaker 5: the other giants was trying to get out. And they
Speaker 5: had a bus ride the into it of the cave.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 5: In the early I want to say it was late
Speaker 5: eighteen hundred nineteen hundreds of an archaeologist, well he wasn't
Speaker 5: even an archaeologist. He was a janitor that was sent
Speaker 5: to Lovelock Cave by the I want to see the
Speaker 5: Manisoonian by a curator. Anyway, he does a grid search
Speaker 5: and love does it. My good work and everything. He
Speaker 5: finds these bones of the giants six feet under a.
Speaker 1: Bat garner back.
Speaker 5: And it's like he was not a very like college
Speaker 5: educated man, a collegiate or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 5: But he did take down his notes. He he was
Speaker 5: very meticulous in his note taking and everything he had,
Speaker 5: pottery he had. And the thing is even after that,
Speaker 5: even like when after that tribe in that war and everything.
Speaker 5: The Lovelock Cave they were it was still being used
Speaker 5: by multiple different people. They even figured that the first
Speaker 5: time that the cave was used was probably about forty
Speaker 5: thousand years ago. And it's awesome. It's pretty cool how
Speaker 5: even in the Greeks they talk about the giants, well,
Speaker 5: they are the most So you have the Hecatonkers, which
Speaker 5: is one hundred hnded ones that are the older version
Speaker 5: of the Psyclops. And you have the Cyclops, which is
Speaker 5: funny because the most prominent Cyclops and all of the
Speaker 5: Hellenistic faith the Greek mythology is Polythenus. He is mentioned
Speaker 5: in the Iliad when or.
Speaker 4: Not the Iliad blinded him, and he said, who who
Speaker 4: stabbed me?
Speaker 6: Who's saying this?
Speaker 5: He said nobody, So wheneverus who blinded, he would say nobody.
Speaker 5: It was like a trick, like sucking.
Speaker 3: The entire island was full of cyclopsters too. He's the
Speaker 3: only one that was mentioned by name, but like the
Speaker 3: whole Yeah.
Speaker 5: And also you know what's funny, Opolo, he talks about
Speaker 5: Hayper Boy going to the land of the North of
Speaker 5: the Foster giants. Then you have FoST giants in Norse
Speaker 5: mythology called the l But all giants wanting for uh
Speaker 5: foster giants were all lt were giants, even Thor and
Speaker 5: Odin will part. Yes they were God. Thor was actually
Speaker 5: three quarters giant because Odin bore Son was half God
Speaker 5: half giant himself. And then he wanted to kill off
Speaker 5: all the giants.
Speaker 3: I think my favorite part of the whole Thor story.
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks that he looks like Chris Heimsworth right now.
Speaker 12: He was.
Speaker 10: Even.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all he did was get drunk and he and
Speaker 5: uh even he had a lot of bits of rock
Speaker 5: embedded in his head because uh he one of the
Speaker 5: rock giants trying to take I was trying to rape
Speaker 5: his wife, I remember correctly, so completely fucked up. He
Speaker 5: smashes his head in with mulen air. Not once he
Speaker 5: bludgeons him to death. Even after it was that, he
Speaker 5: still beat the ship out of him. And honestly, the
Speaker 5: Vikings are like, while the Norseman, the Dangs whatever you
Speaker 5: want to call him, the Northman, while they were uh sailing,
Speaker 5: they would have effigies of Odin and Thorn, but while
Speaker 5: they were on land they some of them did he
Speaker 5: act Christian costs and they believe that if you're on land,
Speaker 5: especially in the Middle East, you can play to U,
Speaker 5: not Zeus, but Jesus and everything has been on where
Speaker 5: at they would take their local gods and they would
Speaker 5: traded them just that way that they could have both
Speaker 5: god set to gods to look fascinating.
Speaker 3: Ancients, they didn't really care which group of gods you worshiped,
Speaker 3: because there was ship What's it called polytheism, but there's
Speaker 3: another another term for it, basically mean like all the
Speaker 3: pantheons of gods exist, but there's levels to those pantheons,
Speaker 3: and I forget the term for it, there's one, but
Speaker 3: not well polytheists, yeah, because they believed in multiple gods, but.
Speaker 1: There was I thought it was like a total.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm not.
Speaker 10: Like all of them in the universe.
Speaker 5: It's universal religion that they all exist.
Speaker 8: Syncretism.
Speaker 3: Syncretism might be empts maybe or I don't know. Uni
Speaker 3: pantheism there's a fancy word for it. I've heard multiple
Speaker 3: scholars use it to basically describe like how ancient Rome,
Speaker 3: for instance, like everybody sees them with how he treated
Speaker 3: the Christians, right, Nero had the Roman candles aka he
Speaker 3: was burning Christians alive, like it was a Roman candle.
Speaker 3: But the way that Rome viewed most religions wasn't in
Speaker 3: this fashion.
Speaker 4: They were pretty cool with whoever you want to worship.
Speaker 3: They just saw it as a part of the overall universe,
Speaker 3: where you're pantheon and my pantheon. They probably exist, but
Speaker 3: mine's probably a little higher up than yours. And it
Speaker 3: was like that, kind of like vibe. But that's kind
Speaker 3: of the way the ancient world worked. For the most part.
Speaker 3: There's only a few exceptions of a monotheistic religion that'd
Speaker 3: be like the Jews and arguably the Zoroastrians, but most
Speaker 3: everybody kind of was like, cool, you worship those gods.
Speaker 3: That's dope. I worshiped these gods. Coo coool.
Speaker 2: Pantheis me is whenever you look all around and like
Speaker 2: everything is God like everything do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: What was the Chinese? Oh god that they that It
Speaker 5: was really essentially the cushion God.
Speaker 10: But to the Chinese people, I can't think of Young D.
Speaker 4: We took we did an episode on that was it?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: That was it?
Speaker 4: Jong D.
Speaker 5: It sounds like John D.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because we did that episode talking
Speaker 3: about how the ancient Chinese religion kind of had some
Speaker 3: similarities to ancient Judaism and things.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so shang d that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really really strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird about how you go like in
Speaker 2: different parts of the world and they all have their
Speaker 2: Jesus stories, you know, like that's kind of strange.
Speaker 4: Certain things that rhyme.
Speaker 3: None of them like do all of the things, but
Speaker 3: like died rose again three days uh, you know, virgin
Speaker 3: birth on occasion. There's like a story or two out
Speaker 3: there about walking on water. But there's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I've heard so many people like Mithra is that guy? Right?
Speaker 3: I heard that this balder was this guy. And it's like,
Speaker 3: then instead of using Jesus as the focal point, use
Speaker 3: Mithra as the focal point.
Speaker 4: How many other Mithra type things are.
Speaker 3: There sounding around the world, or Nimrod's son or Balder
Speaker 3: or all these other ones. And it's when you compare
Speaker 3: them side by side, not many. It's like, if you
Speaker 3: use Jesus in the middle of that then diagram, you
Speaker 3: could pull like eighteen different sources that look just like him.
Speaker 3: Use any one of those other sources in the middle
Speaker 3: of that Vin diagram and it's not even close.
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of those characters were mythological,
Speaker 2: not right, I agree, you know so I think. And also,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's not forget dude, Jesus took a little
Speaker 2: hiatus for like fifteen years, not a single document, not
Speaker 2: a single locking story about the Savior for literally half
Speaker 2: his life. Meanwhile, as a little kid, he's going around,
Speaker 2: you know, teaching everybody the gospel, putting hands and like, uh,
Speaker 2: was he was he like healing people as a little
Speaker 2: kid or was that not until he got order?
Speaker 3: No, not until he got ordered. That was one of
Speaker 3: the big things that he couldn't start until he started
Speaker 3: his ministry.
Speaker 2: Right right, That's what I'm saying, Like, that's I find
Speaker 2: that really strange that nobody questions that. People were just
Speaker 2: like like you always say, well, he was a carpenter.
Speaker 2: He had to do carpenter shit.
Speaker 3: I'm just everybody and Nazareth knew him as such. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he he left for a couple like literally two
Speaker 3: years he was in Egypt and then they went back
Speaker 3: when he was a kid, like a small child.
Speaker 1: Sam, you're singing over there, but there we go.
Speaker 4: What that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for like two years because the Herod, not Harod Junior,
Speaker 3: who was the king. Whenever he was crucified, Herod the
Speaker 3: original put out an edict that every child was to
Speaker 3: be put to death in that area.
Speaker 4: So they ran to Egypt.
Speaker 3: They stayed there for two think maybe three years until
Speaker 3: he died, and then they returned for a census. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he was Joseph's the carpenter, Joseph his kid, and was
Speaker 3: brought up as such. Even the Nazarrethans when he came
Speaker 3: back and was like, wait, that guy, Jesus is the Savior,
Speaker 3: the carpenter's kid, the brother of uh Josas and Judah
Speaker 3: and all that their brother, the son of married that
Speaker 3: guy knew him.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that though. If he was a young
Speaker 2: lad and literally telling everybody about the gospel, like so
Speaker 2: already he was some kind of prodigy and then and
Speaker 2: then he just does carpentry for the next eighteen.
Speaker 1: Years, Like it wasn't make sense.
Speaker 3: You wasn't telling people about the gospel back then, dude,
Speaker 3: because he was literally living the God. The gospels wrote
Speaker 3: about his life, his ministry, which started when he was thirty.
Speaker 2: The gospel was before he was born. Huh, the Gospel
Speaker 2: was written before he was born, and if he he.
Speaker 3: The Torah was written before he was born, not the Gospel,
Speaker 3: the Gospels, Man and Luke and John. These are the
Speaker 3: four books that talk about his life.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the precursor, the Old Testament that said
Speaker 2: that was going to be That says that he was
Speaker 2: going to come. So he knew about that, and he
Speaker 2: was telling everybody about that, right, Yeah, so you're trying
Speaker 2: to tell me God incarnated and decided to wait until
Speaker 2: he was thirty years old, whenever he only had three
Speaker 2: years left of his life, So really try and prove
Speaker 2: it to everybody like that.
Speaker 4: There's a reason.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason why I got started so late.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why his ministry was only a few years.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why he knew he was going to
Speaker 3: be put to death and did it anyway, like it
Speaker 3: all had to happen this way.
Speaker 2: I mean, why even wait till you're thirty because that's
Speaker 2: what he was told to do. Bro, that's what the
Speaker 2: Old Testament said, that he had to wait until he
Speaker 2: was thirty.
Speaker 3: I mean, no, it doesn't say specifically that, but it's
Speaker 3: also a thing as far as being a rabbi goes
Speaker 3: as far as being taken seriously, You're not going to
Speaker 3: be sixteen years old shouting from the rooftops and the people.
Speaker 3: Keep in mind, the sand Hadrian was still operating in
Speaker 3: Israel at this time. These old dudes, who are like
Speaker 3: the knowers of all things Judaic law at this time
Speaker 3: are not going to listen to some sixteen year old.
Speaker 3: You have to go to a certain age bracket before
Speaker 3: you're even taken seriously at this time.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, women weren't even seen to.
Speaker 3: They can't give testimony of a crime that was committed
Speaker 3: because they're only women.
Speaker 4: Their testimony can't be hurt in court.
Speaker 1: So God had to wait his turn to speak, is
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 3: No, he knew that nobody would listen unless he had
Speaker 3: it in the right time and place.
Speaker 4: There's a reason for all of it, bro.
Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean, show them one miracle and
Speaker 2: you don't have to wait that long.
Speaker 4: That's he showed them like twenty and they killed him
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 1: What okay?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Uh, it's you know, it's just like Paul said,
Speaker 2: there's no there's no talking to these people. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I love you though uh, Jamie, Sorry, Bud, you had
Speaker 2: your hand up there a minute. What's what you got
Speaker 2: on your mind? There goes the old man faced Where
Speaker 2: the fuck?
Speaker 13: Oh my god, I had to I have to do
Speaker 13: it because my eyesight ain't so good.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 9: First off, the redhead thing.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna I'm gonna dial everything because I've been like noting,
Speaker 13: just documenting everything. Right, I'm not gonna be nice. I'm
Speaker 13: making fun of redheads right now. I am doing it.
Speaker 13: I am with a redhead right now.
Speaker 4: Is your girl telling you to be nice?
Speaker 9: Yeah, she's yelling at me.
Speaker 13: She's like, you're going a roast right now. And I'm like,
Speaker 13: you talked about kill Tony, like you get it.
Speaker 3: I fucking love kill Tony. It's the best live podcast
Speaker 3: on Earth, in my opinion.
Speaker 9: The funniest thing she is. I love my girl. I
Speaker 9: love my girl. She's a Neanderthol. I don't care what
Speaker 9: you say. She is aka man. She has a crimson chin.
Speaker 9: But she is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.
Speaker 9: I love her. I love her to dead.
Speaker 3: Tell me you're sleeping on the couch tonight without telling
Speaker 3: me you're sleeping on the couch tonight. My boy, wait
Speaker 3: on the.
Speaker 9: Couch, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 9: No, no, But like she has tried to fight men
Speaker 9: so many times.
Speaker 3: I will say that redheads don't really have that like
Speaker 3: fear thing within them.
Speaker 1: No, I believe that there's no governor.
Speaker 9: No, there's no governor. I'm the giants. How does Homo
Speaker 9: floriensis exist? But giants don't exist?
Speaker 1: Homo florianzas you said, Yeah, go good, never heard.
Speaker 3: Homo floriends. That's florian Tis floriensis florian zis.
Speaker 4: Excuse me with not zis.
Speaker 13: So they have a little short, little motherfuckers that run around.
Speaker 13: They estimated speed that they ran was about twenty six
Speaker 13: point two miles an hour.
Speaker 4: That's fucking fast.
Speaker 9: Yep, little hobbits.
Speaker 3: That's fast than you say, bolt. If I'm not mistaken, No,
Speaker 3: I think you hobbits could run faster than you saying. Now,
Speaker 3: that's one.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard this one before, bro, No.
Speaker 9: I think it's if I'm my memory serves me correctly.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen these before.
Speaker 9: Okay, Yep, they're a real thing. Ye yep. They were
Speaker 9: found on an island. If I'm not mistaken, So the very.
Speaker 1: That's the missing link. Between humans and chimpanzees. Right there, dude, I.
Speaker 9: Think that's a different type of human.
Speaker 2: I so these these monkeys, these monkeys only had one
Speaker 2: handful of mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I think they didn't need the rest like everybody else.
Speaker 3: They only micro dose. They never went to the gods
Speaker 3: here I feel you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Also, okay, so my girl wants me to say this.
Speaker 13: She's also accepted in the urban community.
Speaker 1: Let's go, okay, are you truly accepted? Can you say
Speaker 1: the N words?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 13: They challenged her, and she wouldn't, and as out of
Speaker 13: respect she would respect.
Speaker 1: For who you're black?
Speaker 9: No, no, no, that's just that's not a word that
Speaker 9: needs to be said. Just doesn't. It's a word of hatred.
Speaker 9: Doesn't he to be said?
Speaker 1: No, just put that a and slap that ear off.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: It's it's still, it's still. It's not okay, but no.
Speaker 13: So so fascinating when you go to this uh weird, right,
Speaker 13: how can you say something can't be like three and
Speaker 13: a half fet tall and exists and it's a full
Speaker 13: grown thing, you know, with full autonomy. That's full autonomy.
Speaker 13: But a giant couldn't exist.
Speaker 3: So you're saying that if the and I'm not going
Speaker 3: to call them dwarves because this is an entire other species,
Speaker 3: like dwarves are humans with dwarfism. This is the whole
Speaker 3: other thing you're saying. They only got to three and
Speaker 3: a half foot tall. So if the little ones little
Speaker 3: species could exist, then why wouldn't the giants equally be
Speaker 3: able to exist?
Speaker 9: Correct?
Speaker 1: Correct, this is right here.
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say the dude that played little
Speaker 3: me or mini me.
Speaker 13: So okay, So now we go into the battle of religion, right,
Speaker 13: Why do most people accept the Big Bang theory, which
Speaker 13: is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. This is
Speaker 13: what made me atheistic and then I converted back.
Speaker 1: Jacob is As accepts the Big Bang.
Speaker 3: The Big Bang theory was created by a Catholic priest.
Speaker 3: I should mention that one as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we trust the Catholics.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not saying that we do or don't.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, like the Big Bang for everybody
Speaker 3: who believes in the whole evolutionary and Darwinism thing that like,
Speaker 3: cite the Big Bang.
Speaker 4: That's a religious sighting that they're making.
Speaker 9: It's it's well, it can't be real. Why not you
Speaker 9: can because there can't be nothing then to be everything.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole premise behind it being a religious
Speaker 3: talking point, be that God created the stuff. There was
Speaker 3: nothing except God and he said, let's do this shit
Speaker 3: by Yau.
Speaker 2: Technically, the Big Bang wasn't nothing. It was the tiniest
Speaker 2: of tiny little things that expanded.
Speaker 1: It was nothing.
Speaker 9: It was nothing. It was nothing. We put everything all
Speaker 9: into one thing, and well.
Speaker 2: There's never been any such thing as nothing. That nothing
Speaker 2: has never existed.
Speaker 9: According to the Big.
Speaker 13: Bang theory, it is we took every molecule and atom,
Speaker 13: scrubbed them together, and then everything flourished and grew and
Speaker 13: formated together.
Speaker 4: No, I'm miraculous.
Speaker 6: I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 9: I'm out on that one.
Speaker 13: I'm out on that one.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 9: No, I'm out on that aspect. But I'm also not.
Speaker 9: Like I'm very weird when it comes to it, Like.
Speaker 13: I I think Christ was real, Like I like I've
Speaker 13: become the further I got from. Like I went super
Speaker 13: science when I was young and studying the science, and
Speaker 13: science doesn't science unless religion happens.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 3: Most scientific advancements get made from a place of religion,
Speaker 3: whether people want to acknowledge it or not, regardless of
Speaker 3: what religion, like, I mean, the Islamics had their golden
Speaker 3: age of education and information.
Speaker 4: So like, I mean, I'm with you, what ends that?
Speaker 2: Like, here's the deal though, what you're you're looking at
Speaker 2: it like there was a beginning?
Speaker 1: What if there never was a beginning? Maybe it just
Speaker 1: there always? Maybe it just always was.
Speaker 9: I think it was more always was. Or we live
Speaker 9: in a simulation.
Speaker 3: Which the only reason really taking take religion away from
Speaker 3: it for two seconds. The only reason why I am
Speaker 3: more inclined to, you know, subscribe to the Big Bang
Speaker 3: theory is because if you look at our universe, and
Speaker 3: I mean just with NASA, like I mean.
Speaker 4: Even the earliest of ancient man.
Speaker 3: No no, no, like I said, not NASA take that off
Speaker 3: the side too, Okay, earliest form of man. We can
Speaker 3: experience this and see that our stars, our universe is expanding,
Speaker 3: All the galaxies are expanding away from each other, which
Speaker 3: means that at one point in time they all came
Speaker 3: from a starting point. Yeah, but that makes more And
Speaker 3: I'm not saying big Bang is the answer. I'm saying
Speaker 3: it makes more sense that it would come from an
Speaker 3: origin point, the big bang, the big explosion, everything expanding outward.
Speaker 4: That tracks in my mind.
Speaker 2: Here's here's where there's going to be a wrench thrown
Speaker 2: into that theory though, is that eventually there's going to
Speaker 2: be a time and they all they all admit this,
Speaker 2: that it's going to contract again. So who's to say
Speaker 2: it's not like lungs that are breathing in and breathing out,
Speaker 2: Like eventually it's going to like the universe is going
Speaker 2: to stunt its growth and it's going to start coming back.
Speaker 4: I've never heard that before ever.
Speaker 13: Well, I've also heard the theory that we are part
Speaker 13: of a bigger molecule. We are part of a bigger
Speaker 13: being and is growing older. That being is God. I've
Speaker 13: also heard that. I've heard a lot of wild theories.
Speaker 13: But the only thing you can do, like, and this
Speaker 13: is my opinion, I don't impose this on anybody, and
Speaker 13: I'm not going to push you towards anybody.
Speaker 9: Living by the Holy Book is kind of the best
Speaker 9: way to live.
Speaker 4: I would personally agree with that.
Speaker 13: Like, you don't have to be cruel, don't steal, don't
Speaker 13: don't come it died and neighbors lover, like just just
Speaker 13: be kind, like, don't steal, don't murder.
Speaker 9: Just just be there for people.
Speaker 13: Oh, we're all in this crazy rock together, and no
Speaker 13: matter what happens, another rock can come and change it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they call it the Big Crunch. Actually I
Speaker 2: forgot the Big Crunch. Yeah, instead of the Big Bang.
Speaker 2: It'll start to uh cave back in on itself as
Speaker 2: it once was, because you think about it, there always was.
Speaker 2: There's never been any proof that there never was a
Speaker 2: single atom. There always has been a single atom. We
Speaker 2: don't know what theories, Yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 13: The argument against the Big Crunch is like the I
Speaker 13: guess what you would say is then none of this
Speaker 13: really matters or exists.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just don't understand it yet, like not you,
Speaker 1: but just people.
Speaker 9: Know, don't you know?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's so damn vast that we're never going
Speaker 2: to have all the answers. And the the idea behind
Speaker 2: that is is like, well, okay, let's say that there
Speaker 2: is a big crunch and we all do get pushed
Speaker 2: back into this tiny little atom. If that really is
Speaker 2: the case with a big bang or whatever, that atom
Speaker 2: is still going to exist and it's eventually going to
Speaker 2: expand outward again, you know, like if if if, if
Speaker 2: that's if, that's what the story is. Like, if it
Speaker 2: does it once, it's bound to do it again.
Speaker 3: I've never heard of the Big Crunch before, but a
Speaker 3: quick I've Member search showed that it's seen. It was
Speaker 3: a hypothesis that was thrown out for a while, but
Speaker 3: it's seen as unlikely because the universe is expanding currently
Speaker 3: faster and faster and faster. It's not like it's slowing
Speaker 3: down and getting to a point where it's about to
Speaker 3: start sucking back. If anything, it's going even even faster
Speaker 3: than we are.
Speaker 2: But if you saw it, but listen, if you saw
Speaker 2: a if you saw a motorcycle for the very time,
Speaker 2: right like, if you saw a motorcycle for the very
Speaker 2: first time, that thing's going one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2: And you you don't understand the concept of electricity, maybe
Speaker 2: you're just a little kid. You don't understand the concept
Speaker 2: of electricity or gasoline or diesel or any kind of power.
Speaker 2: If you just saw that rolling down the road, you
Speaker 2: would expect that it's going to go forever because you
Speaker 2: don't have the information that's going to tell you otherwise.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say here. Maybe we just
Speaker 2: don't have the information that's going to tell us otherwise
Speaker 2: because there is no no physical proof. How would we
Speaker 2: have physical proof that would that it would ever expand anyway.
Speaker 2: You're not going to find any archaeological evidence. You're not
Speaker 2: going to find any any kind of evidence anywhere.
Speaker 4: You're looking at Earth evidence.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the universe outside of our atmosphere.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 13: Two, there's two arguments to that, right, So one that's aliens. Okay,
Speaker 13: that's that that is the strongest. Like, I'm not insulting
Speaker 13: or Jonathan, I'm not combating you on anything. Please do
Speaker 13: like like, that's that's answered number one for what you
Speaker 13: just listed.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you mean how is aliens an answer
Speaker 1: to the motorcycle?
Speaker 13: Like you look at hieroglyphics and all that other stuff,
Speaker 13: Like there is advanced civilization, so they.
Speaker 9: Could not be a big crunch.
Speaker 13: If there is a civilization that is light years and
Speaker 13: trillions and years ahead of.
Speaker 2: Us, maybe the Big Bane created them first.
Speaker 9: Now I thought everything was all created at once. It
Speaker 9: blows up, boone have you ever seen about it?
Speaker 1: If the universe is constantly expanding. How could it all
Speaker 1: be created at once.
Speaker 9: Because everything is still happening at the same time.
Speaker 13: Yeah, granted you have cooling, quicker and stuff like that,
Speaker 13: but no, it still blows up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, trust me, I mean I'm here for you know.
Speaker 2: There is no such thing as time thirty years ago
Speaker 2: as the same moment as now, as the same year,
Speaker 2: as the same moment as fifty years ago. As far
Speaker 2: as the big scheme of things, we live in this
Speaker 2: time dimension, right, that's just that's how we see life.
Speaker 2: But yet in the scope of actual time, which we
Speaker 2: do live in, you would have to imagine that, you know,
Speaker 2: a chicken came first or an egg came first, like
Speaker 2: something had to come first. And who's to say that
Speaker 2: we were the first civilization to ever make it, you know,
Speaker 2: so maybe they were just first in line. Maybe they
Speaker 2: were the first thing that shot out, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like that's always possible.
Speaker 13: What makes you think that they could possibly be an
Speaker 13: intelligent life?
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, well, because of the shit
Speaker 2: that we see in the sky. But because we can't
Speaker 2: do that, not that I'm aware of, but also think
Speaker 2: about it like this, we don't even know the history
Speaker 2: of this fucking earth.
Speaker 1: Bro, We don't. We don't know how old it is,
Speaker 1: we don't know what humanity starts. So whenever we're talking
Speaker 1: about advanced civilizations, it very well could be us bro
Speaker 1: like on some real shit, Like think about there could
Speaker 1: have been some kind of cataclysm, some people ducked off
Speaker 1: in a cave, and those people just got decided to
Speaker 1: wade out, you know, whatever they needed to in order
Speaker 1: to survive.
Speaker 2: Those people went on, right, I mean, that's that's entirely possible.
Speaker 2: There's there's theories about Hitler's men going off and creating
Speaker 2: their own kind of runaway civilization and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And how about the elites. I don't trust an elite.
Speaker 2: I definitely don't trust an elite. Do you think that
Speaker 2: they're anybody that wants power? You think that they're just
Speaker 2: gonna sit here and evolve with us?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, the Nation of Islam believes that that's where white
Speaker 3: people came from, because Yakub had these people hiding in
Speaker 3: caves around the black city of Mecca.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing about origin stories. They're all ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but one of them has to be.
Speaker 1: Right or no.
Speaker 2: None of that right right, or none of them are
Speaker 2: right yet, or none of them are right and time
Speaker 2: has always existed.
Speaker 13: Or time is actually really manipulated. I mean, you guys
Speaker 13: have had several several podcasts. I've I've been a nerd
Speaker 13: about you guys, like since I've joined this, Like yeah, like.
Speaker 9: Fuck yeah, man, Like what are we talking about right now?
Speaker 13: Like we were also arguing the time timeline in America?
Speaker 13: Like like we are arguing about timelines because the winners
Speaker 13: write the story.
Speaker 2: For sure, exactly it always has been that way. They
Speaker 2: write the story, they write the history, they've written the
Speaker 2: blueprint every single thing that is going on the way
Speaker 2: the reality we perceive it right now is because other
Speaker 2: people plan this shit out in the first place. The
Speaker 2: reason why we have computers, why we have Internet, why
Speaker 2: we have Wi Fi, why we have cell phones, while
Speaker 2: we have TV, why we have radio, like all of
Speaker 2: this shit is because they allow us to have it.
Speaker 2: And if they're allowing us to have it, then that
Speaker 2: must mean that they have been able to master it.
Speaker 9: Like they've already already got.
Speaker 1: It, they mastered it already.
Speaker 9: But now think about this.
Speaker 2: We're playing with fuck, we're playing with legos while they're
Speaker 2: playing with supercomputers.
Speaker 13: No, no, for sure, but you're also dealing with humans
Speaker 13: who have emotions. I think a by the time you've
Speaker 13: been in a relationship where they told you this X
Speaker 13: y Z, I'm not saying any of mine in the past,
Speaker 13: and hands up like I'm not trying to come at anybody.
Speaker 9: You think they're victim. Yeah, there for them.
Speaker 13: You try to help him out, and then he realized,
Speaker 13: did the perpetrator?
Speaker 9: Yep, that happens a lot, a lot. Look at how
Speaker 9: many celebrities. What's that comedian who killed himself because his
Speaker 9: wife was Oh no, I'm sorry his wife killed him
Speaker 9: because she was crazy. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna have
Speaker 9: to look this up. My whole.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, there's a lot of comedians who end up not
Speaker 2: living a full span of a life.
Speaker 13: Okay, okay, so here's a simple one. But Lushi was
Speaker 13: never an alcoholic.
Speaker 4: No, they framed him. Dude, every oh he o deed bro.
Speaker 3: Any of his friends that rolled in his click knew
Speaker 3: that two beers and he'd be slashed off his ass.
Speaker 3: That whole scene from Animal House where he chugged the
Speaker 3: whole fifth of Jack Daniels that was brown water.
Speaker 4: He was not a partier, not even a little bit.
Speaker 9: So there's there's a lot of misnomers going around.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and you gotta look at who the perpetrator. I mean, like,
Speaker 13: and I'm not going politically one side or the other,
Speaker 13: but Barack Obama was the worst at drone bombing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, his success rate was like what fifteen percent
Speaker 3: or some shit. I looked at the statistic the other
Speaker 3: day while we're on this, so and this is going
Speaker 3: to kind of change gears. But also now that I
Speaker 3: just found this out, I feel like we have.
Speaker 4: To talk about it. Right.
Speaker 3: So in Afghanistan alone, in twenty two years of fighting,
Speaker 3: do you just guess, Jonathan, guess how many Afghans or
Speaker 3: Syrians or whatever in the whole global warntarrism? Okay, not
Speaker 3: just Afghanistan, excuse me, whole global waruntarism? How many people
Speaker 3: died non American like, non allied forces.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be able to throw out a guess out.
Speaker 3: Four point two million? You know how many Americans died
Speaker 3: a little over seventy seven hundred. We have a k
Speaker 3: D of one and six hundred.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm just saying that's what we mean
Speaker 3: by fuck around and find out goes. But to that
Speaker 3: point that you're making, Jamie, a lot of those were innocence,
Speaker 3: and a whole hell of a lot, not millions, maybe
Speaker 3: were because Obama just drone strike the fuck out of
Speaker 3: whoever he felt like, yeah, or he didn't personally feel
Speaker 3: like he approved the drone strikes. Was that whole wedding
Speaker 3: party because they thought one guy there was a bad guy.
Speaker 3: Come to find out, it wasn't even the right wedding party.
Speaker 3: And the information that they got was because of some
Speaker 3: internal beef.
Speaker 4: This guy owed this guy some.
Speaker 3: Money, so he gave the Americans some intel quote unquote
Speaker 3: that this bad guy is gonna be at this wedding.
Speaker 3: They fucking torched the entire family, that entire bloodline gone
Speaker 3: off of bad intel, just because he didn't want to
Speaker 3: pay his debts.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, go ahead, spirit animal, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you got something to say about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Obama had the highest form of drive bys on
Speaker 5: lot made of beause that's all the drone the drone
Speaker 5: strike what he is form of a drive back.
Speaker 2: He was absolutely and this is the thing that our
Speaker 2: boy demon Erasers actually uncovered a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: because he's like really good at editing things on computers
Speaker 2: and shit like that, which me and Jacob are we
Speaker 2: know the bare minimum about how to do this show,
Speaker 2: and that's about it. But demon Erasers fucking awesome guy.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to get him back on. He's one
Speaker 2: dude I really like just because he like he lays
Speaker 2: it all on the table, you know, He's one of
Speaker 2: those guys like literally wears his heart on his sleeve,
Speaker 2: and I love those kind of people. But but what
Speaker 2: he did was is he was uncovering. He took the
Speaker 2: actual file from a government website of Barack Obama's birth certificate,
Speaker 2: you know, and there was that big conspiracy about you know,
Speaker 2: Obama he wasn't born in Hawaii and all this other shit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Trump was questioning it there for a few years. Then
Speaker 2: he let it go, and so he took literally the file,
Speaker 2: so not like a screenshot like the file that was
Speaker 2: on the government website of Obama's birth certificate, took it,
Speaker 2: copied and pasted it into his his photo and video editor.
Speaker 2: And what he was able to found find was is
Speaker 2: that literally there was some kind of overlay that he
Speaker 2: was able to click on and slide off of the
Speaker 2: birth certificate. Dude, it was a fake birth certificate.
Speaker 1: They lied about his age, they lied about where he
Speaker 1: was born, they lied about what his original name what, Like,
Speaker 1: literally everything was a lie.
Speaker 4: So whenever we saw it, so whenever.
Speaker 2: We talk about Barack Hussein Obama, Okay, like that guy
Speaker 2: was never who people voted for, like initially.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he was, you know, he they voted
Speaker 3: for that guy speaking, but like he was illeged or
Speaker 3: illegitimate to run for president, let alone get elected. It's
Speaker 3: a whole thing. It's a whole whole fucking thing. But then,
Speaker 3: of course we were conspiracy theorists for saying this. Keep
Speaker 3: in mind, he could have shut down all of the
Speaker 3: conspiracies out there if he would have just shown his
Speaker 3: birth certificate one time. Well, why do I have to
Speaker 3: do that, because literally everyone knows that you're lying, And
Speaker 3: so he never did.
Speaker 2: And it took years, all right before Sam has a
Speaker 2: fucking orgasm or an aneurysm, I don't know which one.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Sam, Yeah, I found the picture.
Speaker 5: I sent it and put it down in the chat.
Speaker 5: Uh the mother box? Who Saint Obama? He's holding a
Speaker 5: book called the World After a post the post American world.
Speaker 5: You can't tell me the dude did not want to
Speaker 5: fucking burn and destroy our country.
Speaker 14: Even his fucking.
Speaker 5: Fucking he see it. What the fuck every bed warmer
Speaker 5: thing that it's made to. Uh Leary's got pissed off
Speaker 5: because they were in a thing and uh, I think
Speaker 5: it was over death beds. I'm always taking shure, but
Speaker 5: she said, it's just a fucking flag talking about the
Speaker 5: American flag. I want that motherfucker. I want both of
Speaker 5: them to be I want them out of the country.
Speaker 5: And they're both disgrace to the country.
Speaker 4: Oh, I agree, I agree, and I.
Speaker 5: Can probably go to prison or whatever. I think the
Speaker 5: bitches deserve a fucking necklace of rote to what the
Speaker 5: fuck they did to my country.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just them, dude, because they got He got
Speaker 3: elected twice twice.
Speaker 4: The American people said that.
Speaker 3: They wanted that, and it was Yeah.
Speaker 5: I believe he had really three times because I believe
Speaker 5: he was fucking controlling the puppet. Biden, who had a
Speaker 5: forty and slipped in twenty twenty The twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two said that everybody from his generation is the
Speaker 5: reason why they have cancer. And they just said, oh,
Speaker 5: he has a stage four prostate cancer. Man testitized into
Speaker 5: his bones that takes between five and ten years.
Speaker 9: For what that happened.
Speaker 1: Check this out. Check this out.
Speaker 2: This is I think this is the video of demon
Speaker 2: erasers uncovering it all.
Speaker 11: Right, because I just saw somebody online that said Obama's
Speaker 11: birth certificate is fake and it's on the way House
Speaker 11: doc up apparently can download it.
Speaker 1: And so I did.
Speaker 11: I'm a professional designer, guys, I'm a professional designer. If
Speaker 11: you look behind me, look three D printers and like
Speaker 11: way format printers.
Speaker 4: All this stuff.
Speaker 11: Okay, like I'm I do this all the time, like
Speaker 11: I've done photo editings.
Speaker 1: This is insane.
Speaker 11: I am like shook at the intensity.
Speaker 9: I gotta show you this.
Speaker 1: So here we go.
Speaker 9: We're on. I just type an Obama certificate.
Speaker 11: I'll just type in an enter or here you go
Speaker 11: Obama's certificate long form PDF. This says the White House
Speaker 11: or the Obama White House Archives dot gov.
Speaker 9: This is the official dot gov website. Okay, this is
Speaker 9: Obama's birth certificate, supposedly.
Speaker 11: But what I'm about to show you is gonna blow
Speaker 11: your mind. Like it I'm downloading it right now, we're
Speaker 11: downloading it, let's bring it up in the files.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 11: I've done this a few times now at this point
Speaker 11: because I'm like, I can't this is real. So and
Speaker 11: let's open this up in illustrator. Okay, an illustrator, and
Speaker 11: I'm like thinking, okay, well that's you know, it could
Speaker 11: be legit except for wait a second, there's bounding boxes
Speaker 11: on here. So you can delete the bounding boxes and
Speaker 11: an illustrator, and if you delete them, you can move
Speaker 11: the entire background document off of the page and you
Speaker 11: can literally separate it. And you can see that this
Speaker 11: is the original document with the original text on it,
Speaker 11: that this has been completely photo edited and they put
Speaker 11: this ghosting effect on here.
Speaker 3: And this is like I can't even believe this.
Speaker 11: And even the background's been edited because this pattern just
Speaker 11: repeats like it was on the page, but it like
Speaker 11: curls around. I don't know what that's about. That's weird.
Speaker 11: But all of this is separated. These are separate window boxes.
Speaker 11: This is from the White House's website. Like, I've literally
Speaker 11: just downloaded this and look this. It's like it's crazier
Speaker 11: than that. Look, the entire document has separation components like
Speaker 11: their date stamps are two tonal different colors, like they
Speaker 11: can be moved separate. Like, I'm just blown away. I'm
Speaker 11: blown away at how terrible of a photoshop job this is.
Speaker 11: There is like some artifacting things here. It looks like
Speaker 11: this is a This is literally look some weird artifacting
Speaker 11: thing to try to make it look more legit or something.
Speaker 11: I don't know. I mean, this is insane, Like you
Speaker 11: could this document is clearly a faked document. How come
Speaker 11: nobody has bothered to look at this document and say, hey,
Speaker 11: that might not be legit. How come seriously, no designer
Speaker 11: with any experience looked at this and go, yeah, it
Speaker 11: looks a little funny. You see this glow around the
Speaker 11: text that's clearly photo editing. Like I'm just blown away
Speaker 11: right now, Like this is insane. And then not only that,
Speaker 11: like I'm really good at this. Let's just put it
Speaker 11: that way, like and then let's open this in photoshop
Speaker 11: in this thing now edit pdf. They've literally I noticed
Speaker 11: that PDF can even detect can even detect the background
Speaker 11: even in the PDF viewer can detect that it's separate
Speaker 11: and different.
Speaker 9: So you guys can like do this yourself. You don't
Speaker 9: even need to have illustrator.
Speaker 11: It knows that the background layers have been edited and modified,
Speaker 11: and you can come in here.
Speaker 9: And even type Look, you can type up new names
Speaker 9: like type whatever you want.
Speaker 2: You can change the check it out though it says Kenya,
Speaker 2: East Africa right there his birthplace.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't want to sound like an
Speaker 3: asshole here, but is anyone actually shocked? I feel like
Speaker 3: it's that same thing with the Martin Luther King thing,
Speaker 3: when it's like, bro, they just found out he was
Speaker 3: a degenerate and all these things.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, we knew that.
Speaker 3: I thought that was common knowledge at this point, not
Speaker 3: just because of you and I, Jonathan, what we do
Speaker 3: for work and all this.
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty much common.
Speaker 3: Knowledge that he was not born in America and that
Speaker 3: the birth tiket was falsified. I'm happy that our boy
Speaker 3: was able to go in and find it that hardcore
Speaker 3: and people can go to the White House website, they
Speaker 3: can download that PDF and on the software that's already
Speaker 3: on your computer. You don't have to do other shit.
Speaker 3: Go to Photoshop, go to illustrate, whatever you got, probably Adobe,
Speaker 3: you could find the same shit fucking no, but you
Speaker 3: were able to pull it yourself. And see, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: they lied. Meanwhile, we're all just.
Speaker 2: Like and everybody was called racist for saying that he
Speaker 2: was from Kenya.
Speaker 4: Remember I remember it. It was so dumb.
Speaker 3: And then that dumb story about him his grandfather living
Speaker 3: in his attic and all these things when he was
Speaker 3: had PTSD.
Speaker 4: From the war.
Speaker 3: What war? What war?
Speaker 4: Your granddaddy had to go on the attic for you're
Speaker 4: from Kenya? You don't even know?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, how about I'll say, you don't even know
Speaker 3: your own fucking daddy. But your half brother is the
Speaker 3: head of finance for Hesba Lah and we know that
Speaker 3: for a fact.
Speaker 2: But okay, and one of his other brothers, I think
Speaker 2: it's a he has two brothers, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: But one of his brothers literally was was saying this
Speaker 2: that like, yeah, we're from Kenya and he's also into dudes,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, been saying this literally since he got into
Speaker 2: into the White House. And nobody's like, oh, he's just
Speaker 2: like a scorn brother and he's just crazy. It's like, bro, Like,
Speaker 2: I know, crazy goes a long way, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: but it's always the people that sound crazy at the
Speaker 2: beginning that end up looking like geniuses once it's finally proven.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not surprised by this at all for
Speaker 3: any of the cult members that might be. I'm happy
Speaker 3: that you're finally on the same page with us. Welcome.
Speaker 3: I know it's a bit of an Earth shift, but
Speaker 3: it's okay. Get used to that happening. The Earth consistently shifts.
Speaker 3: New perspectives happen, new information gets unleashed, and it's.
Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck, Like, I get it.
Speaker 3: But also listen, if you were one of those people
Speaker 3: that believed that Obama was like oh good man, or
Speaker 3: even you know, a fucking American for that matter, Listen,
Speaker 3: it is okay to acknowledge that at one point in
Speaker 3: time you were duped, at one point in time, you
Speaker 3: were an NPC in the matrix. It's okay to acknowledge that,
Speaker 3: as long as you equally acknowledge that you have opened
Speaker 3: up your third eye, that you are a more aware
Speaker 3: and more responsible adult and you start acting and behaving
Speaker 3: and voting and preparing appropriately.
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: My president is black, my lambow's blue, and now be goddamn,
Speaker 2: and my rims ain't too. No, that's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite songs too. By the way, Oh young Jeezy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: crazy crazy how that ended up working out? So yeah,
Speaker 2: and and and also I just wanted to ask you, like,
Speaker 2: just I mean, you're you were in the military, and.
Speaker 4: I was under Obama.
Speaker 2: Under Obama, right, that is like, so obviously he didn't
Speaker 2: dupe the system. He had people around him that helped
Speaker 2: him dupe the system.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's not smart enough to be the puppet master. No,
Speaker 3: Like I want that to be understand.
Speaker 2: This is treason on behalf of our government who cooperated
Speaker 2: in placing him into the seat that he was in.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, for sure. And that's the thing, dude,
Speaker 4: that's why.
Speaker 3: And I'm not this is not going to become a
Speaker 3: pro Donnie T conversation. What I will say is that
Speaker 3: Donnie T. Yes, people say he was selected, he's totally
Speaker 3: a part of the system.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: He very well couldn't be here still out.
Speaker 3: Fine, fine, But if he was a part of the system,
Speaker 3: why is every politician against him? Why and his first term,
Speaker 3: especially if he was a part of the plan, why
Speaker 3: is everyone Republican Democrat, Tod Marter. Why was every single
Speaker 3: one of them trying to do everything they could to
Speaker 3: fuck his whole career up.
Speaker 2: It could be in look, I know that this sounds crazy,
Speaker 2: but we'll see how crazy it is. Give it, you know,
Speaker 2: four years, five years, six years, whatever, whenever we actually
Speaker 2: have a little bit of time. Could be that he's
Speaker 2: been playing five D chess with with fucking checkers players.
Speaker 2: That's on some What really could happen? Like think about
Speaker 2: the facade that he gives off. He's cocky, he knows everything,
Speaker 2: he's you know, but he sounds like an idiot whenever
Speaker 2: he talks or so people say, you know, people make
Speaker 2: fun of him six ways a Sunday, and it's like,
Speaker 2: maybe that's just like a front, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 2: And and if you look at all the deals that
Speaker 2: he's striking with all the tariffs, everybody said, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is the dumbest thing anybody's ever done, is use
Speaker 2: tariffs in order to you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: people have been saying that, and it's actually working, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's working, and.
Speaker 3: Which any economists would have told you that it would.
Speaker 2: But you know, there was a shield of economists that
Speaker 2: said that he was retarded for doing that.
Speaker 3: Then economists that actually know what they're talking about, not
Speaker 3: people that claim that they're an economist.
Speaker 4: That's like saying like, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Have a philosophy degree, so I know philosophy. Like okay,
Speaker 3: do you have a bachelor's do you have a doctorate?
Speaker 3: Like do you know what you're talking about? Or did
Speaker 3: you can you pass a test? Like you see what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. There's college educated idiots everywhere.
Speaker 1: I would love a philosophy degree. That'd be probably the
Speaker 1: coolest one.
Speaker 4: I think you should get one, dude, honestly.
Speaker 1: Or theology, both of them. Really.
Speaker 3: Theology I think would be kind of wild for you
Speaker 3: to get because you pretty much not hate, but you
Speaker 3: don't get down with any theology whatsoever. But I guess
Speaker 3: maybe the studying of all of it would interest you.
Speaker 4: Oh I could see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be looking at it without assuming that
Speaker 2: one of them is wrong and the other the other
Speaker 2: one's right.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing, without bias, without bias. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Look, we are slacking in the chat, so let's
Speaker 2: just get up over here. Spirit Animals said, sup you,
Speaker 2: Honorary Chinks and Dinks. He is Asian he's allowed to
Speaker 2: say that. Uh, Mario, what a do? HOMIEH said, Hello, y'all.
Speaker 2: Hope the weekend went well or went good for y'all.
Speaker 3: I'd been pretty good, been pretty good. Been pretty busy
Speaker 3: man kids last week of school. Uh one of my
Speaker 3: kids has a softball tournament. They lost last night, but
Speaker 3: then one tonight and so like we're still in it. Yeah, busy,
Speaker 3: busy shit, but good overall, man for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Hayden said, what's up? Fam?
Speaker 2: Only here for a few minutes, and then said the
Speaker 2: truth always comes out in movies?
Speaker 1: It do they have?
Speaker 2: That's that's the karma Like they believe that if you
Speaker 2: have to, you have to release it karmically so it
Speaker 2: doesn't come back and haunt you in that way.
Speaker 1: That's like, I don't freemasonic shit.
Speaker 4: We've talked about this before, the karmaic balance.
Speaker 3: Like, does that mean that if a person premeditated, like
Speaker 3: robs a liquor store, they have to like call them
Speaker 3: ahead and let them know they're going to do it
Speaker 3: so that karmicle it doesn't come back on them.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that's how that works.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: Well, somebody who's worried about Karma is probably not going
Speaker 2: to be robbing a liquor store.
Speaker 3: I feel like the global elites are not worried about karma.
Speaker 1: Explain all the nine to eleven references Before nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I don't believe there was a
Speaker 3: Karmack release. I believe people probably.
Speaker 4: Were in the know.
Speaker 2: Why would they, Okay, they're in the know. Why put
Speaker 2: it in all the movies and all the cartoons and
Speaker 2: everything it I.
Speaker 3: Don't I don't know if it was because they felt
Speaker 3: more really obligated to do so, because karma and morality
Speaker 3: are like, you know, I'm not saying their neck and neck,
Speaker 3: but that's how this goes, right, It's for their moral reasons.
Speaker 3: They don't because they don't want retribution, they don't want
Speaker 3: to blow back on them, these types of conversations.
Speaker 4: I just have a hard time seeing it.
Speaker 2: Sure, but let's just say that. I mean, we obviously
Speaker 2: know that a lot of people were in the know.
Speaker 2: A lot of people knew that this nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: the Twin Towers going down was absolutely going to happen.
Speaker 2: They were talking about it, and there was a lot
Speaker 2: of references to it within the Simpsons and Back to
Speaker 2: the Future, and so many other things. Right, Like, there's
Speaker 2: I think there's literally like twenty different examples of them
Speaker 2: trying to show you nine to eleven. Right, if you're
Speaker 2: somebody that's in the know, why would you put it
Speaker 2: in movies?
Speaker 1: What would be the reason?
Speaker 4: Because it's so crazy nobody would believe you.
Speaker 3: I mean, hell, Pearl Harbor, there were people that were
Speaker 3: in the know, Gulf of Tonkin, there were people that
Speaker 3: were in the know.
Speaker 4: They didn't release its soft core, they just kind of
Speaker 4: did it.
Speaker 1: But why, Like, that's not a good enough reason just
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: Because that's that's like an iconic look of New York City,
Speaker 3: the Twin Towers that was a part of it. To
Speaker 3: have that, it's kind of a perfect example, perfect example,
Speaker 3: every single Apocalypse movie ever. You see the statue of
Speaker 3: Liberty's head floating in the water on the ground or
Speaker 3: something like this. Why because that's such an iconic thing
Speaker 3: that shows.
Speaker 4: Like the fall of America kind of situation.
Speaker 3: That's not them pre letting the world know that one
Speaker 3: day they're going to blow up the statue of Liberty.
Speaker 4: That's because it's an iconic look.
Speaker 1: I mean, was this an iconic look?
Speaker 2: In the Simpsons whenever this came out years before September
Speaker 2: of two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: They're showing you that it's New York.
Speaker 3: They got the Twin Towers on one side and the
Speaker 3: Sears Tower on the other and how many nine dollars yeah,
Speaker 3: not nine dollars. Yeah, but they got the Sears Tower
Speaker 3: on the other side. They're showing the New York skyline.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's like an iconic look.
Speaker 1: But Jacob, my god, I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: I don't for the karmic balance of it, dude. I
Speaker 3: believe people were in the know for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, enough said stuff, Go right ahead.
Speaker 14: I've thought about this over and over again over the years,
Speaker 14: and I've come down to the belief that it's just
Speaker 14: their sociopaths and they love to rub our face in it,
Speaker 14: if that makes sense. It's almost like a linebacker that
Speaker 14: blind you know, from the blind side of a quarterback,
Speaker 14: sacks the quarterback and just to rub his face in it.
Speaker 14: As he's getting off, the quarterback rubs his balls in
Speaker 14: his face.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 14: I don't think karma works like that. I don't think
Speaker 14: it works like well, I told you I was going
Speaker 14: to kill you, motherfucker. So you know, I'm good. I
Speaker 14: just don't think it works like that. I don't think
Speaker 14: these people are They operate with the same like human
Speaker 14: to human behavior that most of us operate with. I
Speaker 14: don't think they have consciousness. I think it's like one
Speaker 14: of those you know, like some some sort of like
Speaker 14: just a way to brag. I guess they're sociopaths.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm fully on board that they're absolutely sociopaths.
Speaker 2: But to say that there isn't some kind of genius
Speaker 2: to their craziness, you know what I'm saying. So think
Speaker 2: about it, like, you know, uh shit, what is the name.
Speaker 3: On that like genius like calling their shots, so to speak.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they're doing that for karmic reasons,
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, we talk about it all the time about how
Speaker 2: the elites are basically like, uh, maybe they're satan Satanic,
Speaker 2: Maybe they're evil wizards, maybe they're evil magicians.
Speaker 1: There's there's black magic, right that is absolutely.
Speaker 4: Singers of evil. We'll call it that.
Speaker 3: Maybe not Satanists, maybe not Cobbolists, whatever, but worshippers of
Speaker 3: the evil side of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And every single one of those talk about karma
Speaker 2: in some kind of way.
Speaker 1: Every single one of.
Speaker 3: Them the evil talks about karmic balance. That kind of
Speaker 3: negates the whole evil conversation, doesn't it. The Alistair Crowley
Speaker 3: didn't bring up karma. He talked about doing bad for
Speaker 3: bad sake.
Speaker 1: And karma God has asked, didn't it?
Speaker 3: I Some would argue he lived a really full, long,
Speaker 3: happy life where he, you know, fucked a bunch of
Speaker 3: horries and did a bunch of drugs.
Speaker 4: I don't. It depends on perspective.
Speaker 3: I suppose.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't necessarily call that a fulfilling life
Speaker 2: if all you're doing is fucking horrores and doing drugs.
Speaker 4: Oh, I agree with you, But we also have morals, right.
Speaker 3: Alistair Crowley didn't, is my point, do as thou wilt,
Speaker 3: and that was his whole thing. He didn't die at
Speaker 3: the end of his life being like damn, all of
Speaker 3: this was for nothing. He felt satisfied with his evil karma.
Speaker 3: Madet be damned?
Speaker 2: Was Aleistair Crowley and John de and like these famous
Speaker 2: wizards and magicians, like were they just hanging out in
Speaker 2: their mom's basement? Or did they rise somehow up the
Speaker 2: up the ranks politically and get in the good graces
Speaker 2: of those who controlled the world.
Speaker 3: Oh, Alistair Crowley owned a lot of the states and
Speaker 3: had a lot of land.
Speaker 4: He had a lot of money, like, he did very
Speaker 4: well for himself.
Speaker 2: Therefore, you would incorporate a little bit of karma. You
Speaker 2: incorporate some karma. Shit, That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: And I know what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Because you attorney attain wealth, that must mean that you
Speaker 3: have a good karmic balance.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't think you understand what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 4: I don't think, So break it down for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, So karmically, if you are going to do something evil,
Speaker 2: you must you must let the people know about it somehow.
Speaker 2: Like why Because that's the only way to balance out
Speaker 2: your karma so that you don't get the receiving end
Speaker 2: of the bad karma.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Karma's bullshit, That's my whole point.
Speaker 3: Like Alistair Crowley did all this evil shit and still
Speaker 3: lived what he would have considered a long, happy, prosperous life.
Speaker 3: That's not a karmic balance. Where was the karmack scales
Speaker 3: on that like, it doesn't matter. Sure, it still happened
Speaker 3: bad people doing bad ship, doesn't have to be negated
Speaker 3: by their equally good shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, you call I call it karma, You call it judgment.
Speaker 1: Some people might call it.
Speaker 2: The uh, the the pissy scales, right is it piscy scales,
Speaker 2: libra scales?
Speaker 1: I'm tripping?
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, I can't know more about the woo
Speaker 3: than you, big No, come on, I seem to be
Speaker 3: them two fisties if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's Jesus.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, allegedly, Well he wasn't during the piss
Speaker 2: and age and he was the fisher of men. But
Speaker 2: there's that's that's a whole I'm not I'm not getting
Speaker 2: in that fucking debate right now.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is they absolutely believe in
Speaker 2: some kind of karmic uh power in some kind of way.
Speaker 2: You may call it God's judgment, some other people may
Speaker 2: call it, you know, the balancing of the.
Speaker 1: Libra scales within magic.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely people, something that people account for, and
Speaker 2: so how they account for it is they counteract it. Well,
Speaker 2: here we're gonna do all this negative shit. But so
Speaker 2: that that bad karma or that bad judgment, or that
Speaker 2: you know, the the liber scale tipping in the opposite way.
Speaker 2: To prevent that from happening, We're going to release it
Speaker 2: to the public however they take it that they can
Speaker 2: do whatever they want with that information. We're gonna put
Speaker 2: it out in funny movies, We're gonna put it out
Speaker 2: in stupid cartoons. We're gonna joke about it. And that way,
Speaker 2: whenever it does come out, you know, people are already
Speaker 2: They're already conditioned in a way and and subconsciously conditioned
Speaker 2: at that. So that is that is the Karmac balance.
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people aren't gonna believe
Speaker 2: in that, but I'm telling you I know how these
Speaker 2: fuckers think because I've been looking into this shit for
Speaker 2: a few years now. This is like a core thing
Speaker 2: of what they believe.
Speaker 3: Bro Hitler didn't do a bunch of like he didn't
Speaker 3: like tell the people what he was gonna do before
Speaker 3: he did it. Most of the German people had no
Speaker 3: idea that the concentration camps existed.
Speaker 4: Malose dong same thing.
Speaker 3: Uh fucking Hitler didn't call it.
Speaker 1: Hitler didn't have propaganda. He didn't have propaganda, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm asking you.
Speaker 3: Of course he did, but it wasn't it wasn't geared
Speaker 3: towards No, that's your argument.
Speaker 4: That was his karmic balance.
Speaker 1: What we're literally talking about is propaganda.
Speaker 3: Stalin murdering his own people. He didn't propagandize that. He
Speaker 3: didn't tell the people what he was gonna do. He
Speaker 3: just did it.
Speaker 2: We I mean, do you know, uh, yeah, you know that.
Speaker 2: There was no anything. There was no conversation, There was
Speaker 2: no newspaper articles, There was no loud speeches banging on
Speaker 2: desks or anything like that.
Speaker 3: The Rwandan genocide, they didn't like tell the people, by
Speaker 3: the way, we're about to murder.
Speaker 6: All of you.
Speaker 3: They killed the president and launched a war where they
Speaker 3: killed them all with machetes and shit like that.
Speaker 4: There was no karmic balance there, Jake.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you call yourself a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't believe in most of this shit.
Speaker 3: Karmic balance not necessarily, No, I believe in like that.
Speaker 3: You know, if you do good shit, good shit will
Speaker 3: happen to you. But he is also this thing called
Speaker 3: reality that doesn't really equate karma most of the time.
Speaker 1: That's based upon what your beliefs are, though take away religion,
Speaker 1: take take religion like that, that's not what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about at.
Speaker 3: All, because a logit happens to good people, but bad
Speaker 3: shit happens to good people too, sometimes with no rhyme
Speaker 3: or REASONA life be real.
Speaker 2: And I'm not calling you out because I am the
Speaker 2: same exact way. I'm illogical about a lot of shit, right,
Speaker 2: but what you believe is illogical. It doesn't make sense, right,
Speaker 2: Like in the realm of history, one thing happened that
Speaker 2: you believe absolutely happened, right, but it could never be
Speaker 2: replicated that in that's.
Speaker 4: Once again I'm not having the religious talk. I'm having
Speaker 4: a karma talk.
Speaker 2: But Okay, what I'm trying to say to you is
Speaker 2: that you believe in something that on the surface seems illogical.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it is, but on the surface
Speaker 2: it's it seems illogical. It would be illogical to say
Speaker 2: that other people also don't believe in illogical shit and
Speaker 2: it still works out.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure which thing in particular you're talking
Speaker 3: about like the miracles or which where are you going here?
Speaker 1: Immaculate conception?
Speaker 4: Okay, a miracle. It defies logic, That's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. It's defying logic and you believe it.
Speaker 4: Karma is supposed to be logic.
Speaker 1: Karma, Well, I mean, it depends on what logic is.
Speaker 1: It depends on what you call logic at that time.
Speaker 2: I basically my point is is that certain people who
Speaker 2: rule the world have a very different set of beliefs
Speaker 2: compared to the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Can we agree on that?
Speaker 4: Do as thou wilt? For sure?
Speaker 2: That's a sector of them, for sure, not everybody. There's
Speaker 2: a sector of.
Speaker 3: Them, though, I'd say most of the global elite, the
Speaker 3: shadow figures, the deep state, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: they're operating under that pretense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Tony, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 8: I just wanted to chime in about the eleven prophecies
Speaker 8: or pre revelations. I don't really put too much faith
Speaker 8: in those either. I'm probably with Jacob on this, but
Speaker 8: I think my broader view on this is that people
Speaker 8: are always trying to find ways to predict the future.
Speaker 8: This is why astrology was invented. This is why ancient
Speaker 8: Greeks went to oracles and they thought the future was
Speaker 8: set in stone, and if you could just find some
Speaker 8: supernatural way to figure out what it is, then that
Speaker 8: would be a key to unlocking your own future. And
Speaker 8: whenever something major happens like nine to eleven, some people
Speaker 8: are always trying to look for ways that, well, how
Speaker 8: could we have predicted this? And what what kind of
Speaker 8: signals were there leading up to it? Did somebody predict this?
Speaker 8: Did somebody know it in advance? And they'll pick and
Speaker 8: choose out of the millions of little images that have
Speaker 8: hit the media that oh, hey, this one might have
Speaker 8: predicted it. Maybe we should pay more attention to stuff
Speaker 8: like this to predict the future from here on out.
Speaker 8: But I think it's really just Jacob had a good
Speaker 8: word for it. It's some Greek word meaning trying to
Speaker 8: find stuff, trying to find patterns when maybe they aren't
Speaker 8: really there, but you find one or two little truffles
Speaker 8: that make it look like there's one. You remember what
Speaker 8: that word is, Jacob. Anyway, that's all I had to say.
Speaker 3: Oh, not off top, But I remember the conversation with
Speaker 3: Micah Dank when I brought that up.
Speaker 4: It was paradolia. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Even saying that that's necessarily what's happening here. But at
Speaker 3: the same it's like The Simpsons, we did a whole
Speaker 3: episode about how many things they've gotten right, and like
Speaker 3: that's fun to look at, for sure, And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying there's no crumb of truth to that or any
Speaker 3: conspiracy broader or whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Most of the writers are you know, graduates of Ivy
Speaker 3: League schools and shits.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm with you. There's there's something to be said there,
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: But to answer your question, how am I a conspiracy
Speaker 3: theorist and not believe in that? It's like because the
Speaker 3: conspiracies that I get into are more like CIA fucking around,
Speaker 3: wars that started that shouldn't have, uh, you know, unsolved
Speaker 3: famous murders and assassinations, that kind of shit.
Speaker 2: You know, My argument would be, go and find all
Speaker 2: the eight elevens that came prior to nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: Eight eleven or nine to eleven you mean.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, find the I mean, if it was just
Speaker 2: like a happenstance, maybe it was just a coincidence. Maybe
Speaker 2: people just go looking for shit paradolialy or if that's
Speaker 2: a word, then find find an eight eleven find find
Speaker 2: one hundred and eight elevens.
Speaker 4: I give you where it is seven elevens where.
Speaker 1: It is literally out in the open, like.
Speaker 3: For all the seven eleven references and what happened on
Speaker 3: seven eleven, I don't know. It's besides the point. There's
Speaker 3: tons of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, I can't with you fucking people. But what
Speaker 1: do you mean, you people? You know what I mean?
Speaker 14: Can I jump in real quick?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I want to jump in this hornet's nest for a second.
Speaker 14: I think if I remember, I was on Meta Mysteries
Speaker 14: where Lord Byron discussed magic and how part of magic
Speaker 14: is getting other people to do your bidding. So getting
Speaker 14: other people to engage in something. This happens all the
Speaker 14: time through propaganda or programming or channeling, you know, on
Speaker 14: the channels. But it's this idea that, like, real magic
Speaker 14: is when you get other people to do what you
Speaker 14: want to do, which makes me think that a lot
Speaker 14: of the hints and the clues and the like pre
Speaker 14: programming for world stage events, a lot of it. I
Speaker 14: wonder if it's embedded into the subconscious. And then gets
Speaker 14: us to respond or act to do what they programmed
Speaker 14: us to do, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they almost seep it into the depths of our
Speaker 2: subconscious to where we're always subconsciously thinking about it in
Speaker 2: some kind of way, and then essentially we're the by
Speaker 2: sheer numbers in mass. We essentially manifest it without knowing it,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying, right, Ye okay, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: look different strokes for different folks. Some people are gonna
Speaker 2: buy it, some people are gonna leave it. That's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's more than one way to look
Speaker 2: at this, and it's not always the most cut and
Speaker 2: dry type of way. Because if it was the most
Speaker 2: cut and dry type of way, we'd be able to
Speaker 2: catch on to it. We'd be ahead of them, right,
Speaker 2: Like we would know about this kind And that's the
Speaker 2: thing is, like they're playing by a different set of rules, bro,
Speaker 2: Like they look at reality in a very different way.
Speaker 2: Like they don't look at reality in the way that
Speaker 2: we do. Like they the way that they respond to reality,
Speaker 2: and you know, in comparison to way to the way
Speaker 2: that we respond to reality totally different. And that's honestly
Speaker 2: the reason why they're always trying to manipulate our emotions, right,
Speaker 2: Like as to what Jamie was saying, why they're always
Speaker 2: trying to manipulate our emotions with the chemicals and literally everything.
Speaker 2: Everything's always trying to poison us. Everything's always trying to
Speaker 2: dampen our mood. Right, That's why you know, every single
Speaker 2: fucking bite of food we eat nowadays can't even really
Speaker 2: be digested. And what happens whenever you can't digest food, Well,
Speaker 2: now you feel like you got a rock in the
Speaker 2: bottom of your stomach. And I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but they say the second brain is literally your gut.
Speaker 2: And so if your gut is bogged down, I mean
Speaker 2: they call it the second brain. I call it the
Speaker 2: first brain. Some people call it the fucking intuition. It's
Speaker 2: the gut feeling. And if you are taking that away,
Speaker 2: it's a lot more sinister than we're led to believe
Speaker 2: here now we are. You know, they're not forcing us
Speaker 2: to go to McDonald's, they're not forcing us to go
Speaker 2: to Wendy's. They're not forcing us to go to fucking
Speaker 2: these bullshit ass places with not real food, but they
Speaker 2: make it to where that's one of the cheapest things
Speaker 2: that you can eat, right, Like, that's kind of on purpose,
Speaker 2: like all cheap food, unless we're talking about like fruits
Speaker 2: and vegetables, but.
Speaker 1: Even those have been manipulated. Right.
Speaker 2: The corn is not what corn used to be two
Speaker 2: hundred years ago. It's not the same thing. A watermelon
Speaker 2: not the same thing. All these things have been so
Speaker 2: geo engineered. We don't know what the fuck reel is anymore.
Speaker 2: So I believe that they do that on purpose to
Speaker 2: get us out of touch with reality, because the more
Speaker 2: bogged down we are, the.
Speaker 1: More control that they can have over us. That's just
Speaker 1: the fucking dude, that's that's the game. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like the best chess players don't let you know what
Speaker 2: their moves are. They're always thinking three, four or five,
Speaker 2: six moves ahead.
Speaker 3: Right. I'm not denying any of that, dude anyway.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I had to cook there for a minute. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, noilrah.
Speaker 10: Hey y'all been a while? What up?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 10: No, not much leading into the food thing, it's to
Speaker 10: tie into that. For most folks with a nine to
Speaker 10: five job and eight to six kind of job where
Speaker 10: you also have to work third shift, just being bogged
Speaker 10: down by regular office job, full sucking, soul crushing. By
Speaker 10: the time you get home, you don't want to cook.
Speaker 10: You're gonna pop in a little Tony's pizza into the
Speaker 10: oven or swing by, yeah, through burging McDonald's whatever. By
Speaker 10: the time you get home, you don't even have energy
Speaker 10: to cook a good, healthy meal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I used to work. I used to work
Speaker 2: overnight at a couple of jobs. And that's literally, they say,
Speaker 2: like the one of the main reasons why they why
Speaker 2: they suggest that people like don't work overnight jobs or
Speaker 2: don't stay up too late, because you are only going
Speaker 2: to have a hunger for junk.
Speaker 1: And that's the It's strange how that works.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, You're just more likely to eat
Speaker 2: junk than you are, like an actual meal whenever it's
Speaker 2: that late.
Speaker 1: And Jacob used to work over night too. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you know that, oh for sure.
Speaker 3: But I it got to a point, dude, going on
Speaker 3: ship work like that, I gained weight, so I had
Speaker 3: to start packing my lunches before I came otherwise it
Speaker 3: was gonna be that late night Popo's run.
Speaker 4: So I feel that.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, are you more likely to eat a
Speaker 2: bag of funions at two in the morning, or are
Speaker 2: you more likely to eat a steak and potato? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, that bag of funions be looking drippy?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmm. Give me that one hundred percent. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent. Or are they They've pretty
Speaker 3: much formulated And it's not across the world. It's definitely
Speaker 3: in America anyway, to where we are grinding as much
Speaker 3: as we can just to form a living for ourselves,
Speaker 3: to where we don't have as much time. I mean,
Speaker 3: the same margument could be made as far as a
Speaker 3: children being put in the public school system way too
Speaker 3: young than being at home being taught by their parents.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying all the way through to high
Speaker 3: school or anything like that, but it's they need to
Speaker 3: get them at a young age, right, Well, how are
Speaker 3: we gonna do that? How are we gonna get the
Speaker 3: kids into daycares and into early learning centers and into
Speaker 3: school faster than before? Well, we need to force the
Speaker 3: household to be a dual income household, like we have
Speaker 3: to do that. Not only do we get to double
Speaker 3: the tax revenue from each address, but now we get
Speaker 3: to play this game to where the kids are getting
Speaker 3: indoctrinated way earlier. Then we're gonna couple that, like you're saying,
Speaker 3: with the fact that now mom and dad aren't at
Speaker 3: home farming their own crops and slaughtering their own animals
Speaker 3: and putting that on the table like it's been done
Speaker 3: for you know, the vast majority of human history. Now
Speaker 3: they're forced to buy super cheap, overprocessed foods full of
Speaker 3: GMOs and steroids and all the other shit. And it's all,
Speaker 3: it's all, it's like a multifaceted, uh snowball effect.
Speaker 4: I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But within this, within this consumer reality we have, we've
Speaker 2: we've begun to almost like, uh, live beyond our means
Speaker 2: because we're trying to keep up with the Joneses.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 4: That's another thing, dude.
Speaker 3: They sold people in the American dream quote unquote, and
Speaker 3: that looks different to everybody.
Speaker 4: But you're trying to keep up with your neighbors.
Speaker 3: You see them get a new car or your friends
Speaker 3: they're going on three vacations a year.
Speaker 4: Why can't I?
Speaker 3: And it's this whole, like you said, consumer mindset one
Speaker 3: hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Right, right, And it's always like who has the nicer car,
Speaker 2: who has the nicer house, who has the newest iPad?
Speaker 2: You know, all this bullshit, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're wondering why we're always like, uh, you know, the
Speaker 2: a large percentage of definitely the world, but specifically America,
Speaker 2: a large percentage is living within the poverty bracket. It's because,
Speaker 2: you know, think about it thirty years ago.
Speaker 3: Poverty is another word that means something different to different people.
Speaker 3: Even the lowest among the American population is living better
Speaker 3: than the vast majority of human history up until this point.
Speaker 1: Think about it like this.
Speaker 2: The hobos have iPhones, but they don't have five bucks
Speaker 2: to go get a fucking meal.
Speaker 4: A perfect example, perfect example.
Speaker 1: Dude, That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about poverty and homeless looks a whole
Speaker 3: lot different in Chicago than it does in the Democratic
Speaker 3: Republic of the Congo.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I mean,
Speaker 2: y'all know this. Before I moved out to Texas, I
Speaker 2: used to live in a trailer park. You know how,
Speaker 2: people had the oldest piece of shit trailers that anybody's
Speaker 2: ever seen. You don't even know how that fucking thing
Speaker 2: is not condemned and their kids aren't being taken away,
Speaker 2: but they got a sick ass ride. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It makes no sense, and that's what it's
Speaker 2: all about. It's like, uh, it's appearance. It's it's a brainwashing,
Speaker 2: is really what it is. Our society is so brainwashed
Speaker 2: it's not even funny. But anyway, let's get back to it.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 1: The White Boy Wizard said, what up? God damn, we
Speaker 1: are so far behind. Uh said, what up? Fam, Good
Speaker 1: to see all you sexy motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: I love you, dude.
Speaker 1: Tony Hey.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: Tony said it's okay to be racist to redheads because
Speaker 2: they have no souls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a fair point.
Speaker 2: I love redheads though, some right some about them. Ali
Speaker 2: Catts Ali Kats said, we have all the soul now,
Speaker 2: my Jingja.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey you talking.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna read these George Floyd memes. My God,
Speaker 2: Alexandra Jesus spirit.
Speaker 3: Oh my God, alex I'm just scrolling down. Okay, for anybody,
Speaker 3: we are not going to read them. We are not
Speaker 3: going to do that, but we are to say is
Speaker 3: for anybody listening to this on the next day that
Speaker 3: would like to be a part of this and see
Speaker 3: why we can't read these aloud for the class, You're
Speaker 3: gonna need to come and be a part of this
Speaker 3: live next week, just saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And the best way to be able to
Speaker 1: do that is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, so come check us out. It's the best
Speaker 2: way to be able to support us. And we love
Speaker 2: all of you good cult members who are here with
Speaker 2: us tonight who are supporting us in that way. Speaking
Speaker 2: of good cult members, the Spirit Animal the Platypus, how'd
Speaker 2: you like that? Uh that shout out on Instagram, sir,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: I felt mayby flattered and I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 5: It made an entire shitty day, and that one instant
Speaker 5: made that day fucking what to get even out of bed.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that's what it's all about, baby, Like, we
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 5: I appreciate y'all. Also, I saw that that when I clicked,
Speaker 5: cause I was going to Instagram and everything and so
Speaker 5: that y'all made the post. But I didn't see that
Speaker 5: that first. All I saw before I clicked on it
Speaker 5: was a It was like a cosmic platypus, and I
Speaker 5: was like, holy shit, I need to look in on that.
Speaker 5: And then when I looked at on it, it it's
Speaker 5: like I got well. And then it went on that like.
Speaker 14: The video and like, holy shit, that's even awesomer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So the Spirit Animal has been.
Speaker 2: Helping us with a couple of show ideas here lately,
Speaker 2: especially whenever it gets into the whole alien conversation. If
Speaker 2: you're wondering why we're doing so many alien topics here lately,
Speaker 2: it's because whenever we go to uh, Brohemian girl, there
Speaker 2: we go, there's the helium.
Speaker 1: Did you get that up? This shit's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4: D anyway, living outside.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: First of all, First of all, you need dude, First
Speaker 2: of all you really need to see you hell of
Speaker 2: my life? All right, all right, we're going too far anyway.
Speaker 2: So yeah, whenever we go to uh, whenever we go
Speaker 2: to Brohemian Grove, which is June twentieth and twenty first,
Speaker 2: it's right outside what is it called Leesburg? I think
Speaker 2: jacob Leesville, Leesburg some some some lee shit right outside
Speaker 2: of Orlando, and you can go on to uh, what
Speaker 2: was the name of that website. I think it was Brohemian.
Speaker 4: Grove, bro Grove dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to bro Grove dot com if you want
Speaker 2: to go purchase your tickets. There's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of people over there, So Sam Tripley and Owen Benjamin
Speaker 2: just those people alone are going to probably blow the
Speaker 2: fucking roof off the damn place. And then you add
Speaker 2: in the Nephelum Desk Squad many others, including yours. Truly,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a hell of a two day
Speaker 2: weekend and so yeah, yeah, definitely come check us out. Actually,
Speaker 2: last year we had a lot of fun with Steph
Speaker 2: and Electro, Nick and a couple of other good cult
Speaker 2: members who were able to make it out. We were
Speaker 2: able to go back to the Airbnb hangout with Matt Rife.
Speaker 2: The Matt Rife, not the comedian. He's not the Matt Rife.
Speaker 2: The Matt Rife is the distant relative of the Royal
Speaker 2: Raymond Rife, that is who we're referring to.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, if you.
Speaker 2: Want to be able to come check us out and
Speaker 2: hang out with us for a couple of nights, dude,
Speaker 2: it's always gonna be a fucking blast.
Speaker 1: We don't even really know what's going.
Speaker 2: To happen once we get back to there at that Airbnb,
Speaker 2: so you know, I mean, we're just gonna play it
Speaker 2: by year.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go It's gonna be crazy one way or another.
Speaker 12: Though.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, if you sign up for Bohemian Grove
Speaker 3: and you get your tickets and all of that, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're paying for the show, which is awesome, right, and
Speaker 3: you're paying for all the other things. But you're gonna
Speaker 3: be able to come back and hang out with us
Speaker 3: after the fact, right, And that's I personally, that's my
Speaker 3: favorite part is the hang You now get to hang
Speaker 3: out with all the good people. No no cameras, no microphones,
Speaker 3: it's just us being us.
Speaker 4: And I mean, Steph can confirm this.
Speaker 3: We are This is who we are, Like one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: who you see on the mic is pretty much who
Speaker 3: we are in real life. We might crank it up
Speaker 3: to eleven, but I mean we're we live at a
Speaker 3: ten on average, so I mean it's not that extravagant more.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it's always a good time.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, really looking forward to it this year. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Why would be remiss if I would say that I'm
Speaker 2: not nervous about having a main panel to ourselves.
Speaker 3: Uh well, you know, depending on how it all goes,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be other content careers there that we're gonna
Speaker 3: be pulling up on stage to talk about aliens and
Speaker 3: their beliefs on it. And I'm actually kind of excited
Speaker 3: for that because so many different people have so many different,
Speaker 3: uh you know, beliefs on what aliens or ets are.
Speaker 3: Some and we've talked about that on the show more
Speaker 3: times I counts. Some believe they're angelics, some believe they're demonic,
Speaker 3: some believe they're interdimensional, some believe they're interplanetaries. Some believe
Speaker 3: they're from a different time but they are Earthling. Some
Speaker 3: believe that there's so many different ways and avenues to
Speaker 3: approach this.
Speaker 4: I'm actually kind.
Speaker 3: Of excited to have like chop it up with different
Speaker 3: content creators who are of the conspiratorial mind to hear
Speaker 3: what everyone believes as far as that's concerned. And the
Speaker 3: other's tons of stories, right the roswells, the Aurora shout
Speaker 3: out to.
Speaker 4: You, Sam, there's tons of tons of them.
Speaker 3: But to really have a sit down chat with so
Speaker 3: many people about what they personally believe as far as
Speaker 3: aliens are concerned, I think it's going to be a blast.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: I always like to go with the idea that Stephen
Speaker 2: Greer proposes. It's that they're not from another where they're
Speaker 2: from another whin.
Speaker 3: Perfect example, you and I have such different beliefs on
Speaker 3: what aliens are or where they're from, and all of that,
Speaker 3: you get ten conspiracy heads in the same room speaking
Speaker 3: on a panel, Like I mean, come on, we're gonna
Speaker 3: come up with all kinds of wild ship and I
Speaker 3: think that's gonna make for a great time, great content.
Speaker 4: And overall just a great show. I'm fucking pumped.
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know how, like whenever people got
Speaker 2: turetts and they're trying to hide their turetts like it
Speaker 2: bottles up. It bottles up so much and then they
Speaker 2: just end up having a super fucking freak out. I
Speaker 2: gotta say it right out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's the spirit animal over there. He's fucking convulsing. Go
Speaker 2: ready to head, sir.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's just uh, I've not spoken to Jonathan
Speaker 5: about it on uh the mysteries when we were I
Speaker 5: believe when we were talking about idioms.
Speaker 1: Uh no out that it's not Jonathan.
Speaker 9: I'm Jacob.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Anyways, Uh the DEGLACKI the uh Nazi.
Speaker 5: Wondawaf, the wonder weapon that was doing the anti gravity
Speaker 5: austin a link down in the chat. I knew it
Speaker 5: was attributed to one of these space uh ufo passes
Speaker 5: here in America. I got it mixed up. It's not Wahle.
Speaker 5: Actually in a tw it was in a town called Kentucky.
Speaker 5: I sent the late and it's I've been thinking about
Speaker 5: this because I knew about the whole connection everything since
Speaker 5: I was young, which I say that a lot, but
Speaker 5: when I was a kid, I was I don't get
Speaker 5: nothing but history and politics, and not politics, but conspiracies
Speaker 5: and everything.
Speaker 9: As a way of escapism.
Speaker 5: But I really, I'm truly believe that what this article
Speaker 5: and everything well that the Nazis that they created, they
Speaker 5: didn't create. The Ufo di Nake was not a UFO.
Speaker 5: I truly believe it was a tiny sheet. And I
Speaker 5: do not believe that time is linear. I believe that
Speaker 5: to do to time travel, you need to be in
Speaker 5: space by using gravity and speed, and that's what the
Speaker 5: Einstein Wilsenboods really is. And I believe that the Nazis
Speaker 5: created they actually made a They it was a prototype,
Speaker 5: and I believe that it actually I believe it actually
Speaker 5: phased into uh it it phased into than uh that
Speaker 5: like years later. I truly believe it cut through space
Speaker 5: and time and that's how it wound up over in Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Gave up. They went forward in time and saw that
Speaker 3: nobody was speaking German. So like show, we must have
Speaker 3: lost this one that no it so it went.
Speaker 5: And time traveled through a failed experience. It was an
Speaker 5: experiment they were trying to experiment. It was a prototype,
Speaker 5: and that they did it one time before, but if
Speaker 5: that made it defense that that's why they were going
Speaker 5: to try to.
Speaker 9: Do it again.
Speaker 5: Replicated because that what there was in in reports there
Speaker 5: was uh it was ss uh uh officers and everything
Speaker 5: with the scientists that were experimenting. They had a couple
Speaker 5: uh like high uh special forces kind of like the
Speaker 5: people that like how the guy that when we dropped
Speaker 5: the tom mom one of our best parts trash and
Speaker 5: died and and everything like like one of those people.
Speaker 5: They they talked about being going so fast that they
Speaker 5: it was instantaneous, as if he didn't go, but he
Speaker 5: went in and his uniform he had nothing in his pockets.
Speaker 5: When he walked out. He described going uh a couple
Speaker 5: of purple hours away from where they at and picked
Speaker 5: a flower that was from that area. Came back the
Speaker 5: flower they said, you never left. He pulled out the
Speaker 5: flyer and hit from his pocket, and they were talking
Speaker 5: about that. There's a structure called the hedge, not stone ite.
Speaker 5: It was somewhat modeled after it uh that they used
Speaker 5: that They were, you know, change the bail to to
Speaker 5: run through the experiment, and when it happened, it uh
Speaker 5: the exper the guard they was said to run off
Speaker 5: of a zoom to fifty two and it gave off
Speaker 5: a thick liquid purple metallic pelt like it was a
Speaker 5: metallic substance that was purple to liquid. And I believe
Speaker 5: that the United States government we verse engineered it, and
Speaker 5: that is I believe that the cleft that bomb is
Speaker 5: all has and everything. I don't think that those were
Speaker 5: I think those are the reverse engineering aspects of the document.
Speaker 2: Yeah, over it, that's the work. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I just figured it out. I was trying to wonder
Speaker 2: why you're so jumpy tonight. Sam, it's because you can't smoke.
Speaker 2: You said that you were you were gonna be going
Speaker 2: without smoking for like a month or something like that
Speaker 2: broke I like it. I cannot do it smoking waking sir. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the closest I've been to being sober. I
Speaker 2: went a couple of days without smoking. My anxiety like
Speaker 2: shot through the loof, and I can't even go out
Speaker 2: in public about it. So go meditate, my good brother,
Speaker 2: Go meditate. Calm yourself. You are not the body, You're
Speaker 2: not even the mind, as they say, is a good mantra. Anyway, Look,
Speaker 2: we got to get back to this chat.
Speaker 9: Yeah we do, we do.
Speaker 3: But Sam, thank you for sharing that. I'm going to
Speaker 3: be looking into that later, that's for sure. But let's
Speaker 3: get to this chat.
Speaker 2: Uh Tony said, Abe Lincoln was a freak and his
Speaker 2: index finger was his longest finger. The Lincoln monument represents
Speaker 2: this too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Also, Mario sent in the chat that
Speaker 3: he was in Kandahar. He can foreshore confirm it. The
Speaker 3: giant Candahar was real. I have no doubts on.
Speaker 2: This, Mario speak on that. Did you see the fucking
Speaker 2: giant or did you hear the lure about it?
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 6: So mostly my first tour was in uh Pandoir, and
Speaker 6: all the elders would talk about it. I mean, non
Speaker 6: stopped talking about it, you know, like fucking never saw
Speaker 6: anything myself. We did a lot of night rates back
Speaker 6: in nine. We started. We stopped doing them around twenty eleven.
Speaker 6: Nless they were special operations. Yeah, but I mean there
Speaker 6: was a lot of I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 6: weird caves out there, a lot of weird structures that
Speaker 6: you don't know what the fuck it is. And I
Speaker 6: mean I was a dumb eighteen year old kid from Texas,
Speaker 6: first time being in a weird ass area, and I
Speaker 6: wasn't too worried about I was trying to survive, you know,
Speaker 6: being an infantry.
Speaker 9: Unit, you know, more than anything.
Speaker 6: But uh, I mean they would always tell you about it.
Speaker 6: I mean like straight up, and they will tell you
Speaker 6: straight up like hey, watch out with the fucking giants
Speaker 6: or like I mean, there was just one story I
Speaker 6: know for a fact. I don't know if it was
Speaker 6: a ranger element or a special operations element got ambush yep, no,
Speaker 6: no joke. I mean these are operator level guys talking
Speaker 6: about this shit, and I mean I never saw one,
Speaker 6: but I heard the stories from all the elders.
Speaker 4: And that's my question.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like some old gunny that was just fucking
Speaker 3: with you, right, I think in the army, i'll call
Speaker 3: it like a star and first class or whatever. But
Speaker 3: it wasn't like the old cat that's fucking with the
Speaker 3: new boots and telling you all about the giants.
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about the locals.
Speaker 3: They have lived there their entire lives, and these dudes
Speaker 3: were brought up hearing that there are giants in these
Speaker 3: mountains like it was a fact in the local mindset.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 6: Uh. We had my first toy went through two interpreters,
Speaker 6: and I mean, these guys no reason to lie about
Speaker 6: this shit, you know, I mean, well, what do they
Speaker 6: care about lying an eighteen year old kid about a
Speaker 6: fucking giant.
Speaker 2: Well let me ask you, though, Mario, Like with with
Speaker 2: your your practice in Santoria, you're able to look at
Speaker 2: it from a different angle.
Speaker 4: Good point.
Speaker 2: What do you think the giants are? Are they just like, uh?
Speaker 2: Are they the missing link between you know, in humanity?
Speaker 2: Is it a lesser evolution? Like because obviously, well, if
Speaker 2: they're living inside the mountains, I don't know if they're
Speaker 2: building any kind I mean, yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: minerals and shit that you can get out of, you know,
Speaker 2: certain rock deposits and shit like that.
Speaker 3: But maybe they're more spiritually advanced, Jonathan, not technologically advanced.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I would, I would hope. So, but
Speaker 1: what do you think they are?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Where do you what do you think they are? And
Speaker 2: how do you think they live? And you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, like, what do you think of them?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 6: Shit, that's a great fun question my person personally, I really,
Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't doubt they're fucking real, like their
Speaker 6: actual real beings. I mean they could be like interdimensional
Speaker 6: type of beings where I mean that they're just going
Speaker 6: in and out of our planes in our existence. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean like more likely. But like, the the thing
Speaker 6: about it is like my religion doesn't what's the word.
Speaker 3: They have a giant story in Santoria dog uh.
Speaker 6: If uh allo the Madia has is kind of a
Speaker 6: big he's he's pretty, he's portrayed as a big person.
Speaker 6: But like it's a spirit more of anything. But no,
Speaker 6: my religion doesn't restrict me to not believe in anything else. Like,
Speaker 6: I mean, anything's possible with I mean a supreme being.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But I think what he was saying was is that
Speaker 2: does your religion account for something like that?
Speaker 6: No? Uh no, not directly in the whole way of
Speaker 6: describing giants.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, I thought you were about to go upper
Speaker 2: deck with that big dip baby duck.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen somebody do that, Like, instead of
Speaker 3: going bottom lip, they choose to go upper lip with it.
Speaker 6: I don't hang out with them, bro, there's savages.
Speaker 3: Those are the fucking redheaded giants we need to be
Speaker 3: watching out for, y'all.
Speaker 2: So, so you're of the of the opinion or of
Speaker 2: the belief that they're a lot like Bigfoot As far
Speaker 2: as the inter dimensional kind of stuff goes then like
Speaker 2: almost like skin Walkers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, because like I have so many fucking
Speaker 6: stories like back then on nine we sold we're doing
Speaker 6: a lot of night raids and I mean, yeah, you know, Jacob,
Speaker 6: like fucking the night vision goggles we had, they weren't
Speaker 6: fucking too good. But like you see the most random shit.
Speaker 6: I mean, mind you too, You're you're dealing with fatigue,
Speaker 6: hunger days on and off patrolling. They're you're not getting
Speaker 6: a clear picture of what you're looking at. But I mean,
Speaker 6: like you hear some weird fucking shit besides the ship
Speaker 6: getting fucked by the little boys and ship you know, yeah,
Speaker 6: but uh, there's a lot of weird noises going on.
Speaker 6: I couldn't describe it. Or you're fucking you know, begin
Speaker 6: to give a ship because I was just like, I'm
Speaker 6: just trying to survive this all the night.
Speaker 2: Well and you also being deprived of everything, there's probably
Speaker 2: some kind of light trance that would allow you to
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 16: I would argue, yeah, yeah, there's something about the whole
Speaker 16: uh you know, I mean, you're you're you're not really
Speaker 16: on a clean diet, but I mean the no alcohol,
Speaker 16: just pure water in the isolated area where.
Speaker 6: It's very spirit it's a very spiritual area. I mean,
Speaker 6: even though it's it's a it's a Muslim country.
Speaker 4: It's a very ancient land.
Speaker 6: Brother, very Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: so it gets crazy. I mean I don't know. I
Speaker 6: don't know how to survive the first one.
Speaker 2: Dude, we simply must go to I mean, I know
Speaker 2: we're not gonna be able to get into skinwalker, but
Speaker 2: they say you can go on the fence. And I
Speaker 2: would love to see this shit for myself, bro. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of it sounds evil, a lot of
Speaker 2: it sounds scary as shit.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Some people end up like shitting their pants and throwing
Speaker 2: up and they get real sick and everything.
Speaker 3: I need to see this, bro. But if you see
Speaker 3: a skin walker, you die. Like that's a part of it.
Speaker 3: Like from every Native American tribesman, shaman, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, that say what a skinwalker is.
Speaker 4: You know, I want nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: I believe in them, brou I don't want to fuck
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: Third eye all the way open here.
Speaker 4: No, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3: There's not like one. There's not one positive story about
Speaker 3: a skin walker.
Speaker 2: But if you, as a conspiracy theorist, was to die
Speaker 2: at the hands of a skin walker, you would literally
Speaker 2: go down in history.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can bring my fucking I do, got
Speaker 3: these silver nine mills, So I mean like we we
Speaker 3: could like for science, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, unless they phase in and out of reality, then
Speaker 2: that would under those kind of useless.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 3: That's that's my point. If there was even there was
Speaker 3: even one single positive story about a skin walker that like,
Speaker 3: did something even neutral, you might have me bro, there's
Speaker 3: not one.
Speaker 2: Maybe Merlin has something to say about this, Go ahead
Speaker 2: their yeah, Grand Wizard, Well I don't want.
Speaker 1: Wizard, just wizard. Sorry.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say that that was really fucked up, dude, Jonathan.
Speaker 2: I met it in the best way, great wizard, Wizard.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 10: So I grew up.
Speaker 5: I really I grew well.
Speaker 3: I live in a really small town way out in
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 14: And this is gonna sound crazy.
Speaker 4: By literally outran skinwalker one time.
Speaker 3: When you say the country, may I ask what state? Bazari, Missouri?
Speaker 3: Damn that's right. So you out ran a skin walker.
Speaker 3: Is it possible that he wasn't coming after you?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, bro, he was definitely coming after me. My homie.
Speaker 6: We there's this.
Speaker 11: Old abandoned like not really a band, but there's this
Speaker 11: cave system that kind of collapsed and that stuff.
Speaker 6: Oh no, my phone shut down.
Speaker 4: We can hear you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he can't hear it.
Speaker 3: Oh no, died on him right at the part where
Speaker 3: they enter the mouth of the abandoned cave. Damn it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's no coincidence you're talking about that.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was. See what I'm saying. Bro, Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm down for the exploration, but I don't actually want
Speaker 3: to see a skin walker in my eyeballs.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyhow, let's move on until he rejoined the Uh.
Speaker 2: Spirit Animal said, Lucifer is still an angel, but he
Speaker 2: is a fallen angel. Yeah yeah, uh, Jamie said, my girls, redhead,
Speaker 2: I got input. Oh yeah, that's whenever he yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We are that far behind in the chat. Jesus.
Speaker 3: This last one was left at nine to ten pm.
Speaker 3: It is eleven now. Sorry, everybody. We got off on
Speaker 3: some tangents, you know how we do. We are going
Speaker 3: to spend this minute to catch up.
Speaker 2: We're gonna burn through. Tony said, is it true? That
Speaker 2: Afghanis could not be trained to do jumping jacks.
Speaker 3: Bro, I will I will send you videos of this show.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that all of them. What I'm saying
Speaker 3: is that, like the most capable body. Oh shit, I've
Speaker 3: seen so much combat footage of these guys that like
Speaker 3: they you can't motivate those that can't be motivated, and
Speaker 3: you can't teach somebody who doesn't want to learn. That's
Speaker 3: just the fact of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you cut out or
Speaker 1: if my internet bogged down there for a minute, but.
Speaker 4: You said mine was unstable. What did I say?
Speaker 1: You said nothing for like eight seconds?
Speaker 3: No, okay, Well, what I was saying is that you
Speaker 3: can't teach the teachable, right, all of the good ones,
Speaker 3: the smart ones, the able bodied ones went to the
Speaker 3: terrorist side of things, the only ones that were left
Speaker 3: that could join the AA, But not all of them.
Speaker 4: Their words, it's you know, the exceptions to this rule.
Speaker 3: But you can't teach somebody who doesn't want to learn,
Speaker 3: and you can't train those that don't want to train.
Speaker 4: And that's just kind of what it was.
Speaker 3: These dudes, Yeah, they like cared about their country, but
Speaker 3: most of them didn't see themselves as Afghani. They saw
Speaker 3: themselves as whatever tribe they were and whatever town they
Speaker 3: were from, and like that was what it was. Most
Speaker 3: of Afghanistan couldn't tell you who their president was. They
Speaker 3: didn't acknowledge that. They were more worried about what their
Speaker 3: elder had to say there, you know, I mean, the
Speaker 3: old man of the village kind of thing. It's it
Speaker 3: is a completely different mindset and lifestyle than anything Americans
Speaker 3: could fathom.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you grow up without order, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be hard to accept order the order that you.
Speaker 3: Get exactly, you know, So, I mean it was, yeah,
Speaker 3: the whole jumping jacks thing, that's that's a microcusem. For
Speaker 3: the rest of them, there were those hard chargers. There
Speaker 3: was like the guys that actually got in there and
Speaker 3: did some work. But that was the exception, not the
Speaker 3: not the standard.
Speaker 2: Right dead boys said, I'm sure the Vatican City has
Speaker 2: verbal traditions or rituals only passed down through word of mouth.
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm sorry, I was reading something more as a Sagan.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Vatican City has verbal traditions or rituals
Speaker 2: only passed down through word of mouth.
Speaker 4: It's possible.
Speaker 3: It's very possible, or it's written down somewhere, but only
Speaker 3: the cardinals are allowed to read it or access that
Speaker 3: section of the library.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which we don't know how many books the Bible
Speaker 2: originally had.
Speaker 1: There's no way of knowing that.
Speaker 3: When you say originally had, it's it's a compilation of books.
Speaker 3: The earliest document that we have, as far as that goes,
Speaker 3: goes to like things like three hundred seventy issues.
Speaker 2: When I say it originally, I mean as far as
Speaker 2: maybe God intended. I mean, that's that cant but we
Speaker 2: we know, dude, come on.
Speaker 3: And that's a fair statement to make, at least look
Speaker 3: of Enock. For sure, there's an argument. I personally believe
Speaker 3: that that book should have been added, as well as
Speaker 3: the Book of Jubilee personally, but there's reasons why they didn't.
Speaker 3: But then they also referenced them in the Gospels, as in,
Speaker 3: this is a book that everybody would have known about.
Speaker 4: So it's you see what I mean?
Speaker 2: I yeah, uh, Joelle said, has anyone done a deep
Speaker 2: dive into store selling fake weird meat?
Speaker 13: Now?
Speaker 2: I keep hearing from family and friends the chicken they
Speaker 2: buy has a different weird texture to it now. Family
Speaker 2: and friends that have that have their third eyes closed.
Speaker 2: Keep telling me this.
Speaker 3: Look, dude, this is why I'm trying to start a
Speaker 3: farm here soon. Fuck buying store bought meat. I I,
Speaker 3: for one, would like to live in a world where
Speaker 3: either if I'm not slaughtering my own animals, then like
Speaker 3: I'm going to the farm next door that has the
Speaker 3: cows that does this faltering, and I'll like trade them
Speaker 3: in for like half a cow and something like that.
Speaker 3: I am so over what we're buying in stores, even
Speaker 3: the meat, dude, Even the fruits and vegetables, the shit
Speaker 3: that's naturally grown, you gotta spray it down with shit.
Speaker 3: And you see all this like waxy substance coming off
Speaker 3: your apples.
Speaker 4: What the fuck they putting on the apples?
Speaker 3: You pick them from a tree, you put them in
Speaker 3: a bag, you put them in the store.
Speaker 4: They're putting chemicals on that shit. It's insane.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 2: The FDA has absolutely passed things food drugs, all that
Speaker 2: that they knew were going to be there were that
Speaker 2: they knew that we're gonna have negative side effects.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I mean it's case closed, like.
Speaker 2: They they have known that and at this point it's
Speaker 2: just about a population control.
Speaker 1: That's that's true, really what it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that that's that's actually my theory
Speaker 2: in a lot of other people's theory as to why
Speaker 2: they blew up the Georgia guidestones. Whenever the Georgia Guide
Speaker 2: stones said that you want to limit humanity to five
Speaker 2: hundred million, they found a way to start chipping away
Speaker 2: to get there, for sure.
Speaker 1: And not just a way. They have thousands of ways, dude,
Speaker 1: and that's definitely one of them.
Speaker 3: Planned parenthood, vaccines, bad food, high cancer trails, Yeah, one
Speaker 3: hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Kick Yeah, camp trails, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I thought that, uh, the whole camp trail thing was
Speaker 2: really going to start to come to pass because a
Speaker 2: lot of states we're talking about banning it and everything,
Speaker 2: and there are a couple, but my god, every fucking
Speaker 2: day I'm seeing across in the sky every day every
Speaker 2: day and literally, I dude, I knew this. So literally
Speaker 2: yesterday I was outside, I took my son. We we
Speaker 2: every day that I have my son, we go out
Speaker 2: to the pool, right, and that's like one of his
Speaker 2: favorite things to do. Is go swimming, and he's like, dude,
Speaker 2: he's a fucking stud. He'll jump off of the highest
Speaker 2: part doesn't matter. Like he's not scared of shit. He's
Speaker 2: just I mean, he's too. Nobody scared of shit when
Speaker 2: you're two, right, But he took it out and took
Speaker 2: him out there. It was super sunny, very nice day.
Speaker 12: It was.
Speaker 2: It was gorgeous, but I saw the camp trails and
Speaker 2: I knew literally the next day being today, it was
Speaker 2: going to be nothing but overcast. And when you know it,
Speaker 2: that's how you know, is that if there's ever a
Speaker 2: super super sunny day, you go outside, you see a
Speaker 2: bunch of chemtrails, especially if you see X marks the
Speaker 2: spot in the sky, guarantee you that evening or the
Speaker 2: next day, maybe both, you're going to have extreme overcast
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be blocking out the sun. I don't
Speaker 2: know why. I mean, I know why. I just I
Speaker 2: don't like it anyway, Nora, go ahead, dear ey.
Speaker 10: So going back to the meat and the fruit thing,
Speaker 10: it's not just that or the vegetables. It's the damn
Speaker 10: milk too. Mine mom had three gallons of milk that
Speaker 10: she bought from wheels in the past two weeks. The
Speaker 10: milk smelt fine, it tasted fine, but there were little
Speaker 10: white chunks in the milk. She went to go take it,
Speaker 10: like the two gallons back to the store today and
Speaker 10: she told me. The manager of that store even said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 10: I don't know what's going on with the milk. I
Speaker 10: mean maybe you take it up with a corporate blah
Speaker 10: blah blah. So something's going on with milk.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent agree with that.
Speaker 3: I have my own vendetta against milk, and if anybody
Speaker 3: wants to look at DMI Dairy Management Institute, you'll see
Speaker 3: why my vendetta is so prevalent. But yeah, I'm with
Speaker 3: you one hundred percent. The dairy industry is so grossly unregulated.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's all pasteurized, it's all safe, but that
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean that everything in that jug of milk
Speaker 3: is actually milk. It's it's pretty disgusting.
Speaker 2: And also, pasteurization does not equal like healthy now it.
Speaker 4: Sure does it. Like you know, how could I put
Speaker 4: this in a way that's okay?
Speaker 3: And sorry for the crude example, good cult members, but
Speaker 3: bear with me here.
Speaker 4: So you know how boiling something kills.
Speaker 3: Bacteria, right, Oh yeah, Okay, if I was to take
Speaker 3: a dog turn and boil it in a pot, has
Speaker 3: it been sterilized or is it still fecal matter that
Speaker 3: will make you sick?
Speaker 5: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can only put so much lipstick on a.
Speaker 3: Pig, That's all I'm saying here, right, And if you
Speaker 3: actually look at the pasturization process and you look at
Speaker 3: what is going into the pasture pasteurizer and what is
Speaker 3: coming out of it, if you put x amount of
Speaker 3: puss and nasty shit from the cows, unregulated and disgusting
Speaker 3: into the pasteurization process, what you get out might be
Speaker 3: pasteurized puss and fecal matter and all this excess shit
Speaker 3: doesn't make it safe for human consumption.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: That's just me to be honest with you, bro. I
Speaker 2: don't even think we should be consuming anything dairy, thank you.
Speaker 3: I've been saying this for a while, and I know
Speaker 3: I'm crazy. I'm crazy for that, but no, fuck that
Speaker 3: unless you have your dairy cow and you milked it
Speaker 3: and you did what you're doing with it, or even
Speaker 3: like a Amish farms.
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, okay, you got an Armish Omish farmer.
Speaker 3: Who's got dairy operations and they're selling you raw milk, unpasteurized,
Speaker 3: and you know the farmer and their process and how
Speaker 3: clean they are.
Speaker 4: Yo, go for it, do you? But I'm sorry, why.
Speaker 3: Are humans the only animals on earth that's drinking the
Speaker 3: milk of another animal?
Speaker 4: That will never fucking make sense to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 2: I mean, some people give like regular like cow milk
Speaker 2: to kittens and shit, but that's another story.
Speaker 3: But to that point, kittens are cats in general, are predatory.
Speaker 3: They need meat proteins, So yeah, you can give them milk,
Speaker 3: but honestly, if you were to give them a piece
Speaker 3: of meat, they'd be just as happy, probably happier. So
Speaker 3: I mean that's a point that they are a predatory
Speaker 3: animal or omnivores, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Zombie said they have been for like a year
Speaker 2: or a half a year. Chicken is a big one.
Speaker 2: There's loads of video showing it. I think they've actually
Speaker 2: probably been doing it a lot longer than that. It's
Speaker 2: just that a lot of people's third eyes are all
Speaker 2: the way open now, and also with like social media, TikTok, Instagram,
Speaker 2: all that other shit. It gives people like an outlet
Speaker 2: to be able to kind.
Speaker 1: Of out all these things.
Speaker 2: And that's why I like, I know what people want
Speaker 2: to say about social media, mainly TikTok, but that is
Speaker 2: how like people's voices are being heard because you don't
Speaker 2: have to be famous in order for your shit to
Speaker 2: blow up. Like, the truth is always going to be
Speaker 2: something that people were attracted to, especially if you're talking
Speaker 2: about poisoning our food, you know. So, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe that's just a silver lining to some, But if
Speaker 2: that's all it is, then that's good, dude.
Speaker 3: When I have my own farm, I do plan on
Speaker 3: having like at least a dairy cow because I like
Speaker 3: cooking with butter, right, And I also just found a
Speaker 3: new cheese recipe to make like your own hand pressed
Speaker 3: version of mozzarella. It looks amazing. I can't wait to
Speaker 3: try that. But he'll be off of my cow that
Speaker 3: I feed, and I know how clean it is when
Speaker 3: I put it into the pot.
Speaker 4: Do the things. You see what I'm saying. I'm here
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 2: If you can make some some carry gold bro some
Speaker 2: of that irish butter. Oh, that's what I mean, that's
Speaker 2: my I love that's that's like, I love that Irish
Speaker 2: butter more than any other butter.
Speaker 1: It's just the most delicious.
Speaker 3: I find myself cooking with ghee more than like Irish
Speaker 3: carry gold is pure butter. There's no like margin or
Speaker 3: added as there are there's assalts and unsalts all that.
Speaker 3: But dude, have you fucked around with ghee?
Speaker 2: I'm I would be lying to you if I even
Speaker 2: told you, if I knew what the fuck that was.
Speaker 3: So gee is clarified butter. It's it's basically it's a
Speaker 3: liquid state and they cook it down. It's an Asian thing.
Speaker 3: I see you, Sam, I see you, and I gotta
Speaker 3: tell you. Has a higher smoke point than regular butter.
Speaker 3: So like whenever I'm doing steaks, I'm like basting them
Speaker 3: and ship dude, cooking them in gee. It allows you
Speaker 3: to get a higher like pan temperature without creating smoke
Speaker 3: and uh me fucking them out with the cast irons
Speaker 3: and shit, I'm all about a high smoke point, not low.
Speaker 3: But uh bro it tastes good. You feel better afterwards too.
Speaker 3: But I mean the same thing, though, where is it
Speaker 3: coming from? What company is this? How clean is their process?
Speaker 3: It's it's all the same conversation, but in that same regard,
Speaker 3: I still cook with MSG on everything I eat too,
Speaker 3: So like, you know, hey, you gotta put out some
Speaker 3: of the good with some of the bad.
Speaker 1: I like using some bacon grease, bro, I just save that.
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah fuck yeah. But it depends on what I'm cooking.
Speaker 3: If I'm using bacon grease on steak, it may or
Speaker 3: may not do good.
Speaker 2: I think I just made some yesterday with with steak.
Speaker 1: It was fucking tits.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, dude, I do love cooking with bacon grease though,
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario said, my father's landlord in Mexico was a Rosicrucian.
Speaker 2: My dad told me he legit had a private library
Speaker 2: in his house and found him practicing rituals.
Speaker 3: Mario, you come from a very interesting people, my boy.
Speaker 3: We appreciate the fuck out of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's uh, it's people like that. You're like,
Speaker 2: I'm happy he's on.
Speaker 4: My side, you know, fucking right, dude.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of memes. I'm trying to not get
Speaker 2: into the memes because there's a lot of message. Is
Speaker 2: that we need to get to a spirit animal said
Speaker 2: the ginger gene actually comes from the Middle East, which
Speaker 2: makes sense when a lot of giants are described as gingers.
Speaker 2: I believe that the Bible is untouched by corruption. The
Speaker 2: word of God can't be changed.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair enough, U Joelle'll fuck you. That's a
Speaker 4: good point.
Speaker 1: The word of God can't be changed. Literally, it's been
Speaker 1: proven that has been.
Speaker 3: Changed when you look at the Dead Sea scrolls in
Speaker 3: these earlier books, like the Book of Isaiah for instance,
Speaker 3: and it's like ninety eight percent word for word.
Speaker 4: And the variants that have been changed.
Speaker 3: Are like the British how they spell color with a
Speaker 3: you and we spell it with O R. It's those
Speaker 3: types of changes. But like, no, I'm with you, Sam.
Speaker 3: I know people will disagree and say that translations have
Speaker 3: taken away the true intent. I am somebody who disagrees
Speaker 3: with that point, but I'm with you anyhow.
Speaker 5: I believe that the blood translates to what. It stays
Speaker 5: what God. The message stays the same as just put
Speaker 5: in the different tongue, so everybody can get and understand it.
Speaker 5: But so say that Nimo tried to build the town God,
Speaker 5: they pushed his hand down and crushed that.
Speaker 2: So I agree, Joel said, Pinocchio was also swallowed by
Speaker 2: a whal just like Jonah.
Speaker 4: Very true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who bro going back and watching Pinocchio, even the original,
Speaker 3: not that Tom Hanks, because fuck that pedophile.
Speaker 4: The entire story is so fucked up start.
Speaker 3: To finish the they brought these young boys to an
Speaker 3: island and then they all turned them into donkeys to
Speaker 3: use them as slave labor.
Speaker 4: And it's like.
Speaker 3: Just the hey, my boy, he was he was on
Speaker 3: way too much shit back in the day. Like it's
Speaker 3: it's so fucked up.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Walt Disney himself circles he ran in,
Speaker 2: you know, absolutely, to be honest, I think that a
Speaker 2: lot of those uh, those old cartoons and movies that
Speaker 2: uh that that Walt Disney was creating, I think that
Speaker 2: it was like part of a larger magical ritual that
Speaker 2: he was trying to portray on screen in order to
Speaker 2: subconsciously kind of you know what I mean. There's always
Speaker 2: been those subconscious things that Disney does. Absolutely that goes
Speaker 2: back to the magic that I was talking about. By
Speaker 2: the way, but anyway, we're not gonna stick.
Speaker 3: On that spirit. Animal says that Madussie talking about hitting
Speaker 3: Medusa from the.
Speaker 1: Back made probably hits different.
Speaker 3: Uh, probably feels cold and like stone. But I could
Speaker 3: be so wrong. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's stone in her own snatch.
Speaker 3: No, no, but I mean if she has a snake's
Speaker 3: for hair, I can only imagine what the bush down
Speaker 3: low is like.
Speaker 4: Is it like you know? Little? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anyway, moving on, They're just little Uh, they're just little
Speaker 1: garden snakes.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I can't imagine that
Speaker 3: that would have felt good. But I guess that's why
Speaker 3: you hit it from the back and just hope that
Speaker 3: they yet anyway we're.
Speaker 1: Getting unless they can all partake.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't want I don't want my ship
Speaker 4: bit up by snakes. Dude.
Speaker 2: No, but I mean, anyway, go ahead, Samuel, fuck I thanks.
Speaker 2: You got something to say here, Okay.
Speaker 5: So Medusa is a complex character because there are two
Speaker 5: main myths about her. So in both of them, she
Speaker 5: is a a follower of Athena, I.
Speaker 14: Want to say, and she was a pretcess of a thing.
Speaker 17: Well in one myth, and I didn't have a essential
Speaker 17: encounter in Athena's temple, but and the other account is
Speaker 17: that he raped her.
Speaker 14: But so that's why she has now.
Speaker 17: Become a lot of a lot of people.
Speaker 5: Who have been raped and sac she abused. I know
Speaker 5: they will get a Medusa tattooed, and I didn't realize
Speaker 5: that until like two years ago.
Speaker 9: And the fucked up thing is.
Speaker 12: I actually have my Poseidon is my favorite Greek god
Speaker 12: and because of Percy Jackson, that's what got me into
Speaker 12: Greek mythology to the point I have a tattoo of
Speaker 12: the Roman uh, the camp Jupiter of the Roman House
Speaker 12: of Neptune, which is the the Roman version of Poseidon. Well,
Speaker 12: I actually it's just I feel bad form aduc because
Speaker 12: they say that she was cursed, she used herself as
Speaker 12: a curse, but she's one of the three Bulgons.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 5: She considers a curse because Athena made it where she
Speaker 5: can no man can look upon her. But Athena did
Speaker 5: it that way that she will never be hurt by
Speaker 5: a man again. So you can either see a curse
Speaker 5: or a gift. But Athina's also a cunt. Look what
Speaker 5: she did to uh Rackney because she beat her up
Speaker 5: in leading.
Speaker 3: By Poseidon, because keep in mind Pegasus was the baby
Speaker 3: because of that. It's just it's the same thing as
Speaker 3: like Hades and Persephone.
Speaker 4: Oh, he took her to the underworld. I think she
Speaker 4: went willingly.
Speaker 1: Hated.
Speaker 5: That's the only god to actually be faithful to his
Speaker 5: south in the entire pantheon. Technically, uh Afrogti is both
Speaker 5: the daughter of Poseidon and because she is her connation
Speaker 5: to the city, she was created breathed life into a
Speaker 5: tea foam that was given a him by Poseidon.
Speaker 14: And Athena and uh Poseidon.
Speaker 5: Even though they fucking hate each other, they both built
Speaker 5: the cherry together.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I could sound pretty bad right here, but saying that
Speaker 2: you feel bad for Medusa is like saying you feel
Speaker 2: bad for Sandy Cheeks because she has to live in
Speaker 2: a dome. Like these are mythological stories, Like you can't
Speaker 2: feel bad for myths. Bro uh And but I will say,
Speaker 2: with that being said, there is somebody that reached out
Speaker 2: to me, and he's gonna be coming on Meta Mysteries
Speaker 2: on Friday, and he has a wild story. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about how whenever he was a bit younger,
Speaker 2: there was at somebody's house that he went over to
Speaker 2: and he went up to his buddy's room to go
Speaker 2: hang out and play video games or whatever. And turns
Speaker 2: out the family was in the downstairs like living room.
Speaker 2: They were doing like all kind of black magic, and
Speaker 2: he believes that that they called upon Medusa because while
Speaker 2: they were doing the black magic downstairs, he said, the
Speaker 2: Medusa appeared to him and like just like a like
Speaker 2: a demon kind of situation, like phasing in of this
Speaker 2: reality or some kind of shit.
Speaker 3: So there is there's some belief to say that all
Speaker 3: of the Greek and Roman pantheons and all this were
Speaker 3: just demons that took on different forms. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: I believe that, but that is a belief held by
Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's the whole demigods story, really, you know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Joelle said, h the last couple of lives,
Speaker 2: I heard people talking about tattooing themselves. I blacked out
Speaker 2: on my hand. I blacked out my own hand myself.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: Nice, damn. Let's move on down.
Speaker 2: Zombie said, what are your thoughts on mythology? Do you
Speaker 2: feel those gods slash goddesses existed? I think that anything
Speaker 2: exists as long as you.
Speaker 1: Believe it.
Speaker 4: I have a very different opinion.
Speaker 3: I don't believe they did, but I understand Jonathan believes this,
Speaker 3: and I understand your reasons for why.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is because people have gotten their
Speaker 2: validation in one way or another for every single mythology
Speaker 2: and religion ever created, every single one of them have
Speaker 2: gotten some kind of validation. Our boy Jay Griggs, right,
Speaker 2: I always like to bring him up. He was like
Speaker 2: newly converted over into Norse mythology or some kind of shit, right,
Speaker 2: and he started believing like in Thor and Zeus and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: We goes outside Thor.
Speaker 2: And Odin my bad, I always get those mixed up.
Speaker 2: But so he was calling on uh, he was calling
Speaker 2: on Thor. I believe maybe he was calling on it,
Speaker 2: and I don't remember, but he was calling on one
Speaker 2: of them, said if you're real, show me like a
Speaker 2: bolt of lightning or something like that, and five seconds later,
Speaker 2: bolt of lightning happened. So sometimes like the validation is strange,
Speaker 2: and I think that that actually lends a little bit
Speaker 2: of credence to where that only kind of proves that
Speaker 2: we live in a matrix. Bro, Like, how is it
Speaker 2: possible that everybody is finding proof for their beliefs? Everybody is,
Speaker 2: you know, like, and I know that maybe maybe not
Speaker 2: a lot of people would agree with that statement. But
Speaker 2: here's the deal. A lot of people need some kind
Speaker 2: of proof. They need some kind of validation in order
Speaker 2: for them to pledge their lives and their souls and
Speaker 2: their energy into whatever their belief is. Some I mean,
Speaker 2: you're not going to go on believing in something without
Speaker 2: some kind of validation, right, Like, that's just how it is.
Speaker 1: Why is it that? Why is it that almost everybody
Speaker 1: some kind of validation?
Speaker 3: Sure, we had a guy come on the show this
Speaker 3: years ago who was a Mormon who was actually gonna
Speaker 3: speak in defense of Mormonism, right, and his sign was
Speaker 3: seeing a dolphin jump in a river before he knew
Speaker 3: Joseph Smith was the guy and this whole thing, and
Speaker 3: it's like, sure, no.
Speaker 2: Doubt, that's a that's a ridiculous one to even bring
Speaker 2: up right now in this conversation. Is it so like
Speaker 2: a legit kind of things that actually to the person
Speaker 2: would validate and would have other people also saying if
Speaker 2: they were there, they would validate it for them as well,
Speaker 2: not just to the individual. But I'm talking about like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very case by case, but I see
Speaker 3: what you mean sure, I'm I understand people like needing
Speaker 3: to cling to something to make sense of it all.
Speaker 3: I get it. I'm kind of torn on that right,
Speaker 3: just to go back to the whole demigods, they're all demons.
Speaker 4: In disguise conversation, right, because that's.
Speaker 1: Don't you say?
Speaker 3: I think it's a cop out. I believe that that
Speaker 3: there's a shred of truth to it. It's possible, sure,
Speaker 3: But is it possible that a demon could present itself
Speaker 3: and or a fallen angel or whatever. I know, people
Speaker 3: are gonna get shitty because I'm not using the proper terminology.
Speaker 3: Just bear with me, okay. Is it possible that one
Speaker 3: of them came to this group in uh India just
Speaker 3: throwing it out and said, I am this new in
Speaker 3: reality it was a demon in disguise?
Speaker 4: Is that possible? Sure? Sure? Possible?
Speaker 1: Does that?
Speaker 3: Is that a cop out answer? Is there probably a
Speaker 3: lot more to the story? Does that negate three thousand
Speaker 3: years of history and tradition?
Speaker 4: Kind of?
Speaker 3: But could also be that a demon would be able
Speaker 3: to perform crazy acts to validate and prove that he
Speaker 3: was who he quote unquote said he was. And they
Speaker 3: do come from the great deceiver and all. I get
Speaker 3: the argument to say that they're all demons in disguise.
Speaker 3: I get that, But I mean, how many of these
Speaker 3: stories do we hear of that could hypothetically be a
Speaker 3: guy that walked the earth and when he died he
Speaker 3: lived such a crazy, almost mythical life that that story
Speaker 3: passed down through a game of telephone for eight hundred years,
Speaker 3: and then finally when somebody decided to write it down
Speaker 3: on paper, they called him Zeus. You see what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to negate it.
Speaker 4: Zeus.
Speaker 3: Let's say he was a prolific man whore, but maybe
Speaker 3: he also was like this insane warrior who did all
Speaker 3: this stuff. And then three generations down, the story kind
Speaker 3: of doesn't go to being a man whore and not
Speaker 3: a warrior. Something more than ten generations down it becomes this.
Speaker 3: It becomes this, and now we have this whole other
Speaker 3: story that people are worshiping. I could see that possibility
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, like I bring that up not to
Speaker 2: like go against anybody's beliefs.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm actually kind of sticking
Speaker 2: up for everybody's beliefs. Whenever I say that everybody is
Speaker 2: experiencing some kind of proof, some kind of validation for
Speaker 2: whatever it is that they believe in. Here's a good example.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit contrived. I mean, maybe it's a coincidence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, but everything supernatural you can call a coincidence, right, like,
Speaker 2: and that's I think even like a coincidence. Calling something
Speaker 2: a coincidence is the ultimate cop out to be honest
Speaker 2: with me, Like, that's how I feel. But here's a
Speaker 2: decent example. You let me know what you think on
Speaker 2: meta mysteries. I want to say probably six months ago,
Speaker 2: what I did was we were learning about magic and
Speaker 2: spells and enchantments and all that other kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and so me and Sean we decided, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, dude, We're gonna try and do a money
Speaker 1: spell just.
Speaker 2: To see, just to see what happens. You never know, right,
Speaker 2: I did a money spell. The next day was the
Speaker 2: most amount of money I ever made in one day
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: Coincidence.
Speaker 4: No spells are real.
Speaker 3: I believe magic is real, but you and I have
Speaker 3: very different opinions on where that is being derived from,
Speaker 3: where that power is being derived from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that it came from a demon even
Speaker 2: though I never call it on a demon.
Speaker 4: That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, anyway, I see, That's what I'm saying it Like,
Speaker 2: that's whenever you have a biased that's and you're right.
Speaker 2: I'm not calling you out because you're biased. You're you're
Speaker 2: you know, you're perfectly logical in having your bias. But
Speaker 2: if you talk about that to somebody who doesn't have
Speaker 2: a bias, where's that coming from?
Speaker 1: Like, if you don't, if you don't.
Speaker 2: Have the whole story of demons and damons and all
Speaker 2: this other evil shit, and you're just let's say you
Speaker 2: grew up in the wild and you never heard anybody
Speaker 2: tell any kind of tall tale about where we came from,
Speaker 2: where we're going, any of these other kind of deities
Speaker 2: or anything like that. The first thing that would pop
Speaker 2: in your mind would not be, Oh, it must be
Speaker 2: coming from a demon.
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 4: No, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Nature tells you nothing about demons, is my point.
Speaker 4: No, I'm with you. I'm with you. Let's let's go
Speaker 4: that route.
Speaker 3: Right, Somebody in China who's never fucked with a Ouiji
Speaker 3: board before, right, because China has very strict rules about religion,
Speaker 3: and somehow some way, Aluigi board ends up in the
Speaker 3: hands of some person in China, could be man, could
Speaker 3: be woman, could be child, whatever, right, and they start
Speaker 3: fucking with it. Something answers They don't know if this
Speaker 3: is a demon or a dead guy or whatever the
Speaker 3: case is. They're just playing with a Wigi board. They've
Speaker 3: never heard of this before. This is hypothetical, by the way,
Speaker 3: I don't know if people in China have oigi's beside
Speaker 3: the point, how would they know if it was positive
Speaker 3: or negative?
Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's kind of what you're getting at here.
Speaker 1: It would be by the fruit.
Speaker 3: Ah, I agree, And have you also heard that things
Speaker 3: that come easy typically aren't right. If it's too good
Speaker 3: to be true, it probably is.
Speaker 2: I disagree. Okay, that's not across the board. And I'll
Speaker 2: also say this speaking of boards whenever it comes to
Speaker 2: Wiji boards. The reason why a lot of negative this
Speaker 2: is just my opinion. I know that you're probably going
Speaker 2: to disagree with this. The reason why, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: why Oigi boards always produce some kind of negative spirit
Speaker 2: or something thereabouts, is because that's what we associate them with.
Speaker 2: Like if you gave like you were just saying, if
Speaker 2: you gave a chinaman right, who never heard of a
Speaker 2: Wigi board, never seen a Oigi board, doesn't know any
Speaker 2: of the stories about Aligi board, just sees this fucking
Speaker 2: board and says, and you just tell him, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: you know you can talk to fucking spirits on this thing,
Speaker 2: and he's all off, all right, one, Yeah, I would
Speaker 2: love to talk to my mom or something like that.
Speaker 1: I high lead out, high lead.
Speaker 2: Out that what is going to be coming through as
Speaker 2: a demon if anything even comes through?
Speaker 4: I you know what this is?
Speaker 3: Somebody wid this experience or experiment before.
Speaker 2: It's about me being associated with because a lot of
Speaker 2: people tell me that, you know, I'm speaking to demons
Speaker 2: whenever I use tarot cards, and I don't think so
Speaker 2: because I've been doing it.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been dealing with tarot cards for three
Speaker 2: or four years now, right where's my demon attachment? Where's
Speaker 2: it at? My life is pretty fucking good right now,
Speaker 2: knock on wood. But I don't have any kind of
Speaker 2: demonic parasite that is guiding me to do all this
Speaker 2: evil shit. Why haven't I murdered anybody? Why haven't I
Speaker 2: raped anybody?
Speaker 3: Why? You know what I'm saying like, that's clearly that's
Speaker 3: the only fruit that a demonic attachment can provide.
Speaker 2: Okay, why don't I Why don't I have anxiety? Why
Speaker 2: don't I have depression? Why why don't I have a
Speaker 2: drinking problem? Why don't I have a drug problem? Name
Speaker 2: a negative thing that a that that would be the
Speaker 2: fruit that would be coming from the tarot cards. It
Speaker 2: would have happened by Now would you disagree?
Speaker 3: I mean in a sense, yeah, I mean I spiritual
Speaker 3: fruit is not always something or yeah, I'm gonna use
Speaker 3: that term.
Speaker 4: Why not.
Speaker 3: It's not always something that uh, you know, manifests itself
Speaker 3: in murder or addiction or uh you know, infidelity or
Speaker 3: uh fuck, divorce could even be a conversation to be
Speaker 3: had with that. I'm speaking from experience on my own
Speaker 3: shit on that, uh you know, relationship issues. There's all
Speaker 3: kinds of ways this can go. Man, It's not just
Speaker 3: uh And I'm not saying that you personally have a
Speaker 3: demonic attachment because you've been playing with tarot cards. I'm
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's kind of a bold claim to make.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even saying that your life is worse
Speaker 3: off now than if you would have never picked up
Speaker 3: a deck in ever, Like, who's to say, right, my.
Speaker 2: Life is way better off because meta came from it
Speaker 2: connecting with a lot of people on there. It's building
Speaker 2: a nice com community over there.
Speaker 3: But is that because of Taro or because of things
Speaker 3: you you would have delved into anyway, regardless if you
Speaker 3: ever fucked with the tarot deck or not.
Speaker 2: Taro, I'm reading a tarot every single show. There's never
Speaker 2: been a show where I haven't done a tarot reading.
Speaker 4: I'm fair enough.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, it's it's kind of a
Speaker 3: a I don't want to say chicken or egg situation,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of like a who's to say, what
Speaker 3: would have happened if?
Speaker 4: Kind of thing?
Speaker 3: But again, I don't believe that you are you have
Speaker 3: a demonic attachment to you because you fuck with tarot cards.
Speaker 3: I know tons of people that have them and fuck
Speaker 3: with them, and I don't believe that demons are, you know,
Speaker 3: possessing them in some way. But I also think that sorry.
Speaker 1: It's coming from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the message is, but it's also cards in
Speaker 3: a game of what we would call casting lots or
Speaker 3: a game of chance. You don't know what cards you're
Speaker 3: about to pull. It's very possible that that card is random.
Speaker 3: And the depictions and what's being applied to it's kind
Speaker 3: of like the astrology conversation, right, these people that like,
Speaker 3: I'm not equating you to these people, but these people
Speaker 3: that will like look at their daily horoscopes and say, oh,
Speaker 3: because I am a Pisces and this is the date today.
Speaker 4: And mercuries and retro are grade.
Speaker 3: This article says that I need to do this, this, this,
Speaker 3: and this, and it's so broad that it applies to
Speaker 3: pretty much anybody's life that reads it, whether they're a pice.
Speaker 4: These are not kind of thing, you.
Speaker 1: Know, But I've given you terror readings, Yeah you have.
Speaker 1: They were pretty fucking spot on.
Speaker 4: Again, kind of broad, but they were on for that
Speaker 4: moment in time. Sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, you know, and and it
Speaker 2: was again I kind of just drew it for him.
Speaker 2: There was like once when in Christie's studio and then
Speaker 2: once at Browhemian Grove. If I'm going on a road trip,
Speaker 2: best believe that terror. By the way, anybody wants to
Speaker 2: come to Brohemian Grove, I'll give you a terror reading.
Speaker 2: How about that they get it for everybody in the
Speaker 2: Airbnb house over there.
Speaker 3: That's right, you did. God, I forgot about that. Then
Speaker 3: why didn't the cards warn you about the d MT man?
Speaker 1: Oh they might have. I don't know. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember what.
Speaker 4: Forgot what the readings were, to be honest.
Speaker 2: I've done three hundred readings at least since then. But anyway,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm so sorry. We do not have much longer,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of message messages to get to
Speaker 2: go as long as he won fuck it, the spirit
Speaker 2: animal said, sorry, I thought, I'm okay, let me just
Speaker 2: skip over that.
Speaker 1: Oh there's the black and out the hand for Joel.
Speaker 1: Is that considered black hand? Like blackface?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: No, dude, like blackout tattoos? I actually think they're kind
Speaker 3: of sick.
Speaker 2: I'm actually i'm thinking about well now I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna do it that. I'm going to get
Speaker 2: a neck tat and it's going to be right here,
Speaker 2: it's going to go all the way around, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get a blue jay with its wings all open
Speaker 2: and everything. I've seen like a lot of people have,
Speaker 2: like phoenixes and stuff like that. But I want you
Speaker 2: don't remember that story.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to. It's been a minute.
Speaker 2: When we were over at Christie's, so U for everybody
Speaker 2: that remembers, me and Jacob used to have a studio
Speaker 2: in the back of Christie's Crystal Shop and there was
Speaker 2: always you know, psychics and terror readers and reiki healers
Speaker 2: and sound bowl frequency whatever kind of I don't know
Speaker 2: what they're called, but there was always a lot of
Speaker 2: people coming in and out, and they offered sessions for
Speaker 2: anybody that ever wanted them and stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 2: I went into the studio one day right before a show.
Speaker 2: I would always get there like half an hour forty
Speaker 2: five minutes early, just to shoot the shit with everybody.
Speaker 2: And there was this one psidekick that I had never
Speaker 2: talked to, I'd seen, but she kind of and I
Speaker 2: always still refer to her as Edna from the Incredibles.
Speaker 2: That's what she looked like to me, you know, like
Speaker 2: the the little one that's working.
Speaker 1: On all the costumes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, she comes up to me and she's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, you have like energy or spirits or something
Speaker 2: around you. And I'm like, okay, you know, I'm like
Speaker 2: used to being around these people and everybody sees something
Speaker 2: and you never know, like what's bullshit and what's wrong whatever.
Speaker 2: And so she goes on to basically describe exactly my
Speaker 2: great grandparents who are passed away. And she even she
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, yeah, it's a it's a really big,
Speaker 2: burly guy. He used to be in the military. And
Speaker 2: then his wife super skinny, super scrawny and tiny. And
Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit, that sounds a lot like
Speaker 2: my great great grandparents. And so she kept on going
Speaker 2: on with more details and stuff like that. Anyway, long
Speaker 2: story short, the message was if if they were ever
Speaker 2: these spirit guides my great grandparents were ever trying to
Speaker 2: send me a message, then they would show a cardinal
Speaker 2: and if they were ever trying to get an urgent
Speaker 2: message to me, I would see a blue jay and
Speaker 2: that would be like their way of trying to get
Speaker 2: a hold of, you know, me in a sense.
Speaker 4: And an urgent message on your neck.
Speaker 2: So I the next day, bro, So we got done
Speaker 2: shooting that night, and at the time, we weren't podcasting
Speaker 2: full time yet and so I was still like driving
Speaker 2: for uber eads and stuff like that. And so the
Speaker 2: next day I get on the road to go deliver
Speaker 2: for Uber Eats, and the first delivery I take it,
Speaker 2: I don't remember from what restaurant, but I went to
Speaker 2: go deliver it at this house. The first house after
Speaker 2: this conversation, I see this little tree that's right outside
Speaker 2: the front door, and it has two blue jays that
Speaker 2: are just in the tree, dancing and flying and playing alone.
Speaker 2: And so literally, ever since then, I've just been looking
Speaker 2: at like, anytime I see a blue jay, I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, that's my great grandparents, you know. And so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like not necessarily like an urgent, bad
Speaker 2: message kind of thing. It's just kind of like a
Speaker 2: little reminder. Plus I don't know, I think blue jays
Speaker 2: are fucking sweet anyway.
Speaker 4: I dig it, dude. I can't wait to see what
Speaker 4: you come up with. Precent.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna try and get Sean to do it.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Scrolling down here, Spear of Animals said Biden said he
Speaker 3: had cancer in twenty twenty two, and not to spend
Speaker 3: too much time on this, but good cult members, we
Speaker 3: may very well need to make another mark on the
Speaker 3: Bingo card here soon if Biden dies.
Speaker 4: That seems to be a thing that could happen very soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they've been holding out for this for
Speaker 2: as long as they could, and.
Speaker 1: It was a matter of time. Dude.
Speaker 2: I mean, he has lost his name, he lost his
Speaker 2: mind a long time ago, when even before he became president,
Speaker 2: he wasn't all the way there and they knew that.
Speaker 2: And whether he's a clone or he's a walking or whatever,
Speaker 2: maybe he's a robot.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But let's just let's just like third eye all the
Speaker 2: way closed. Let's just say that that actually is the
Speaker 2: original Biden that was president from twenty twenty to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. That guy had no business being in office.
Speaker 2: He was so mentally declined. It wasn't even it was
Speaker 2: so obvious.
Speaker 3: Right, he got dog walked by Trump and every single debate,
Speaker 3: Oh come on, man, like that was his defense.
Speaker 4: Come on, wait, wait, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: A nine millimeter could blow the lungs right out your chest,
Speaker 3: and like that was his thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's that's part of the techniques to it.
Speaker 2: It's always to make a joke in order to shift
Speaker 2: the attention and stuff like that. If you don't have
Speaker 2: a good comeback or a good retort or anything, it's
Speaker 2: always like a joke to make that other person seem
Speaker 2: like they're an idiot. That's part of, like, honestly, that's
Speaker 2: part of like the whole neuro linguistic programming kind of
Speaker 2: mentality that these people have, and especially somebody who's so
Speaker 2: mentally declined like old dirty Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah it worked for Oh, I thought it worked for
Speaker 1: him anyway. But yeah, he's knocking on desk. Story on
Speaker 1: the bingo card. Soon we shall see, we shall see
Speaker 1: what's hot on the bingo card.
Speaker 4: Biden dying, I believe.
Speaker 2: So all right, well, okay, let's see where are we.
Speaker 2: Tony said, Saint Thomas Aquinas has entered the chat. The
Speaker 2: world has, uh, the world has to have a creator.
Speaker 3: I personally agree with that, And even if it's not
Speaker 3: a religious conversation, even if it's this computer program has
Speaker 3: to have a programmer, Like, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Ali Kat said, have you guys heard about Annabelle the
Speaker 2: Haunted doll going on tour in Louisiana And hours after
Speaker 2: she left the area, Marie Levoe's house caught fire, and
Speaker 2: I believe one of the old plantations did as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that plantation that caught fire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was the Laurel some plantation.
Speaker 1: It was something house.
Speaker 4: I thought, shit, I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: I've been this.
Speaker 2: I was there like whenever I was with Baby Mama
Speaker 2: number one. We actually had to go tour it because
Speaker 2: we were thinking about getting married there.
Speaker 3: It was a gorgeous state. Dude, all torched to the ground. Now,
Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about the Annabelle Doll, but uh,
Speaker 3: I yeah, Marie Levoe's house also, I understand that it
Speaker 3: wasn't the correct oh the not away house excuse me,
Speaker 3: not a way plantation. Yeah, I understand that, like the
Speaker 3: Marie Levo's house quote unquote that was on.
Speaker 4: Bourbon Street wasn't exactly her real house.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 4: It's a fucking raw shop now.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love the raw shop.
Speaker 3: It's but they turned the yes, super touristy voodoo shop
Speaker 3: into a head shop and that's it now. And it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, even if you were trying to keep up
Speaker 3: the historical look to it, you could have given a
Speaker 3: nod to that a little bit. No, not even uh
Speaker 3: Mari Levo's traditional home. I haven't heard about that burning down,
Speaker 3: but I mean, if that's true, we're talking about a
Speaker 3: multiple hundred year old home burning down. It it happens.
Speaker 2: But did you see all the comments under the posts
Speaker 2: from the Notaway Plantation burning down?
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sure it got very racially motivated, very quickly.
Speaker 2: My god, it was most racially motivated thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: They're like, good, burn, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, let it burn all this stuff. And
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, not for sure, but I want
Speaker 3: to say that that was owned by Actually I'm not
Speaker 3: going to speak on it. I'm not sure if the
Speaker 3: Notaway Plantation was owned by black people or not. I
Speaker 3: know there was a couple of them up and down
Speaker 3: the Mississippi that was I want to say that was
Speaker 3: one of them, but I'm not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Oh look up.
Speaker 2: People just love shooting off the hip without any kind
Speaker 2: of information anyhow. So yeah, that's kind of crazy. I
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't hear about the whole Annabel tour. I
Speaker 2: don't trust that shit. Tony said Adams are not self existing?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Adams are not self existing?
Speaker 8: This means they didn't create themselves.
Speaker 4: Oh with you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sure, But I mean put into the realm
Speaker 2: that there was no beginning. What's creating, you know, and
Speaker 2: that's just a theory. There's no way of there's no
Speaker 2: way of proof in the fucking beginning if there ever
Speaker 2: was one. I mean, I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: they like to look at that fucking super high powered
Speaker 2: James Webb telescope and they can see, Oh, look this
Speaker 2: is we can go back in time and see this
Speaker 2: is where the big band came from. I'm like, oh, Cgi,
Speaker 2: I just can't handle I can't deal with it. Merlin said,
Speaker 2: if we are to believe Jesus walked on water, healed
Speaker 2: the broken, died then came back to life, and all
Speaker 2: the other magical miracles in the world, but we have
Speaker 2: a hard time believing God could create the universe or
Speaker 2: turn nothing into something. Bro that uh bro, someone that
Speaker 2: powerful has that thano.
Speaker 1: Snap with you? Yeah, I would, I would say.
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's it's dangerous to have limiting beliefs.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. Spirit Animal posted the picture
Speaker 2: what was that book?
Speaker 1: The post World?
Speaker 4: Oh Obama holding the post American World?
Speaker 1: Post American World. Yeah yeah, what a fucking douchebag. Um
Speaker 1: fuck him?
Speaker 2: Man, Obama be like, I got nine to nine problems,
Speaker 2: but a bitch ain't won, that's true, Yeah, because he
Speaker 2: ain't got a bitch. Well, I mean Big Mike I
Speaker 2: would call him a.
Speaker 3: Bitch, but I think he's Big MIC's bitch. Actually, I
Speaker 3: think he bottoms.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Barry got that.
Speaker 5: Obama is definitely a power bottom.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even call him power bottom. I think he
Speaker 3: says harder and he's not like he's not telling. I
Speaker 3: think he's asking. I see him being a complete sent bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that thing is to be gaping, bro and
Speaker 2: just imagine, Oh yeah, those are some King Kong dildos
Speaker 2: going up in that pooper.
Speaker 1: Let's move on.
Speaker 2: God, his love said Crowley died pretty broke, spending all
Speaker 2: on h and then the spirit animals like huh, just.
Speaker 1: Like my uncle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he also died like pretty wealthy. I mean
Speaker 3: some of that was inherited because he came from wealth,
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but he grew his estate. He
Speaker 3: squandered a good bit of it on gambling and extravagant living.
Speaker 3: But I mean he he definitely made money with his
Speaker 3: beliefs and his books and his cult following and all
Speaker 3: that shit.
Speaker 5: Doesn't he have a castle on lock now and he
Speaker 5: also infiltrated him my five in my six, whichever one is.
Speaker 3: So, he had a castle on Lake loch Ness at
Speaker 3: one point, and I don't know what happened to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he sold it or donated it
Speaker 3: to other members of like the magical practicing, the the
Speaker 3: I five slash six conversation. I've read a few reports
Speaker 3: saying that he not infiltrated. They approached him the same
Speaker 3: way that like the UH America, for instance, the CIA
Speaker 3: had a division that was looking into astra projection and
Speaker 3: occult things in black magic things, not not to say
Speaker 3: a black magic and ash projection of the same conversation.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is the CIA has delved into those
Speaker 3: kinds of things as well. There is the articles that
Speaker 3: I've read said that basically I six slash M I
Speaker 3: five Spin a minute were looking into black magic and
Speaker 3: Crowley being Crowley and being British, that was the source.
Speaker 4: That they used. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that that was also more they were hoping
Speaker 3: that he wasn't going to start some sort of a
Speaker 3: political dissident uprising.
Speaker 4: He wasn't.
Speaker 3: He couldn't give a fuck less about politics. He wanted
Speaker 3: whores and drugs. That was his whole jam.
Speaker 4: But yeah, what do you say about John D?
Speaker 1: Then, Sagan, what do you say about John D? Then?
Speaker 3: John D was from Jesus crust. Trying to think of
Speaker 3: how what year that was? John D was an alchemist.
Speaker 1: And an astrologer, but not a sorcerer.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people confused the two.
Speaker 1: Wodini also was the spot for our government. I can't
Speaker 1: then which agency.
Speaker 5: But he also that because he could go, he could
Speaker 5: travel all through.
Speaker 1: Europe and everything he would.
Speaker 5: He got a senage blog too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so John D.
Speaker 3: He was fifteen twenty seven to sixteen o eight or nine.
Speaker 3: They're not one hundred percent on that. An English mathematician, astronomer, teacher, astrologer,
Speaker 3: occultist and alchemist. He was the court astronomer for an
Speaker 3: advisor to Elizabeth the First and spend much of his
Speaker 3: time on alchemy, divination and hermetic philosophy. As an antiquarian,
Speaker 3: uh he had one of the largest libraries in England
Speaker 3: at the time. As a political adviser, he advocated for
Speaker 3: the foundation of the English colonies in the New World
Speaker 3: to form a British Empire a term he is credited
Speaker 3: with coining.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't a sorcerer, then.
Speaker 4: Occultist does not mean sorcerer.
Speaker 1: I have it right here.
Speaker 2: John D was often referred to as a sorcerer due
Speaker 2: to his involvement in alchemy, astrology, and attempts to communicate
Speaker 2: with angels, but he was also a respected mathematician and
Speaker 2: advisor to Queen Elizabeths. His work blended science and the occult,
Speaker 2: reflecting the beliefs of his time. That is a sorcerer.
Speaker 4: Bro Alchemy is literally the blending of those two things.
Speaker 3: Is it not communicating with angels? He also wasn't doing
Speaker 3: the same shit that Crowley was doing. Crowley was like
Speaker 3: proudly doing evil things and like saying this is what
Speaker 3: I'm doing.
Speaker 4: He wasn't like doing this. Yeah, it might be demons,
Speaker 4: but they're not what you think.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 3: No, he was like, I want the demons, I want
Speaker 3: the satan. That's what his whole jam was. John D
Speaker 3: and Crowley are like, that's not a fair comparison.
Speaker 4: Actually thought he was the reincarnation of John D. And
Speaker 4: just because you think it doesn't mean it's true.
Speaker 5: No, But.
Speaker 1: That's where he got a lot of his ideas at though.
Speaker 3: Bro Okay, I figured a lot of his ideas came
Speaker 3: from his time with the Oto In the Order of
Speaker 3: the Golden Dawn. I mean, yeah, they also were dealing
Speaker 3: with the hermetic principles, which is what John D was
Speaker 3: dealing with.
Speaker 4: So like, okay, they were reading from the same books.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're doing the same shit, and you're saying
Speaker 2: they're totally different.
Speaker 3: I haven't looked up the sorcery of John D. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I'm not like a all knower of the guy. I know,
Speaker 3: I know the overarching theme, and I know he was
Speaker 3: under Elizabeth I, who was very big with Christendom. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's very possible she was employing dark magic occult of
Speaker 3: sorcerer's to her own ends. It's possible. I'm not negating that.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: And people think it's crazy that they're they're still doing
Speaker 2: that nowadays, Like that's that blows my mind that people
Speaker 2: literally think that the elites and politicians and the people
Speaker 2: that are governing this world are not using some kind
Speaker 2: of astrology, some kind of magic, some kind of you know, hypnosis,
Speaker 2: like all these supernatural things.
Speaker 1: Like the like, especially whenever you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to do remote viewing and they tried
Speaker 2: it and they found out it didn't work. And it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: I don't think you understand the like the weight of
Speaker 2: all of this stuff. They they have mastered it, they're
Speaker 2: using it still to this day.
Speaker 3: Their reports showed that people can be born with this gift,
Speaker 3: but people being taught it was I couldn't find one
Speaker 3: report that was credible that said that like they absolutely
Speaker 3: had this like Normy, absolutely born one hundred percent normy,
Speaker 3: that they were able to teach how to do astra
Speaker 3: projection in that kind of shit there. But they did
Speaker 3: claim that the people that could do it and were
Speaker 3: born with this extra gift were like legitist fuck. And
Speaker 3: I mean, granted it's the CIA and the group that
Speaker 3: audited themselves, like we've talked about. That's like the IRS
Speaker 3: auditing themselves and finding that they did nothing wrong.
Speaker 4: That was the reports that were shown from this group.
Speaker 1: I mean, who's gonna audit them? They're the government exactly.
Speaker 3: So the Asher Projection Group, when they audited the Astra
Speaker 3: Projection Group, found that everything they ever touched was like
Speaker 3: legit as fuck. When you cipher through all that, you
Speaker 3: could see like normies couldn't really be trained to do it.
Speaker 3: But the people that were born with that sixth sense,
Speaker 3: if you want to call it, that absolutely had that
Speaker 3: sixth sense. And I'm not saying the government's not using
Speaker 3: those types of people today.
Speaker 4: Sure why not?
Speaker 2: Oh dude, if you look at the Monroe Institute, which
Speaker 2: is how they ended up learning a lot of that
Speaker 2: stuff back in the seventies, was by Robert Monroe.
Speaker 1: They're still teaching that stuff today.
Speaker 2: You can literally go to the Monroe Institute in Virginia
Speaker 2: and like take classes on how to do a lot
Speaker 2: of the like spoon bending and fucking remote viewing and
Speaker 2: astra project like all this shit is real, dude, Like
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's a learned thing, and some take to
Speaker 2: it a little bit easier than others. But to say
Speaker 2: that it's like not real, Like that's that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I didn't say not real.
Speaker 3: I just personally love the belief that you can't be
Speaker 3: taught how to do that.
Speaker 4: You either have it or you don't. Sure, that's all.
Speaker 1: But so let's just clarify.
Speaker 2: You believe that some people were able to do it, sure,
Speaker 2: and you think that they took those some people that
Speaker 2: absolutely knew how to do it and then just stopped.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, absolutely not. I think the government's probably
Speaker 3: still using those for sure.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, because you were framing it as they used
Speaker 2: to do it, but then they stopped.
Speaker 3: The project quote unquote like what ended in the eighties.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they didn't just like let the psychics go home.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean Operation Mockingbird ended in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Allegedly, right right right exactly.
Speaker 2: You know, Nora said, If any of y'all are interested,
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Speaker 2: H love it. I love when people start their own shows,
Speaker 2: you know, Like that is it, dude, I tell you what. Like,
Speaker 2: Even though we get into some wild shit with the Conspiracies.
Speaker 1: Or you know, you with Cajun Night or me with Meta.
Speaker 2: Like, dude, like this is so therapeutic to just sit
Speaker 2: here and just hang out with everybody and then you know,
Speaker 2: like lose yourself and research. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: Like that, it is so amazing to just open up
Speaker 2: that throat chakra a little bit and let your voice
Speaker 2: be heard, even if you're only speaking to three, four
Speaker 2: or five people. Do when we first started, you know what,
Speaker 2: do we have like fifty people listening?
Speaker 1: If that?
Speaker 3: I think when I teamed up with you, you had
Speaker 3: or this show had about like two hundred ish like
Speaker 3: steady listeners, give or take.
Speaker 4: And now we just had thousands. Dude, it is mind
Speaker 4: blowing and humbling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: So yeah, been a better time to start. So fuck yeah, Nora,
Speaker 3: get after it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, dude, honestly, like, if you're not shy
Speaker 2: to get in front of a microphone, and even if
Speaker 2: you are shy, fucking fight that.
Speaker 1: Dude. It's so much fun.
Speaker 2: It's it's like it gives you another meaning, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, White Boy Wizard said Bruh Upper Decies
Speaker 2: are the fucking best.
Speaker 1: I've never done.
Speaker 2: Oh I've done it with like the pouches though, but
Speaker 2: that doesn't county count Like. That's what makes it so
Speaker 2: ridiculous about an upper decker is that you got to
Speaker 2: pack it up there.
Speaker 4: Bro, I told you about my boy that did a
Speaker 4: double horse shoe.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, bro, fucking wild as hell with that, like crazy.
Speaker 3: I think it was like Dutch dip or something. He
Speaker 3: had to go like a special sort to even find it.
Speaker 3: We're in the field, we're already dehydrated and nasty and
Speaker 3: all this shit. He decides, fucking he's gonna take the
Speaker 3: whole can and do a horseshoe on the bottom, and
Speaker 3: they were like, dude, you're fucking wild.
Speaker 4: Then he did a whole horseshoe on the top.
Speaker 3: Old boys laid out on a tree, just wide eye,
Speaker 3: just drooling, like he wasn't even spitting anymore. It was like, Bro,
Speaker 3: you good. He I think he went to the other place.
Speaker 1: Probably yeah the veil thin my boy.
Speaker 4: Beck fucking psycho, but I love him to death anyway.
Speaker 2: White Boy Wizard said we got multiple wizards. FuG I'm
Speaker 2: bricked up. I thought I was talking about Merlin I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then he also said, blasphemy, cocaine and hookers is all
Speaker 2: anyone we'll ever need.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's what it makes the world go round.
Speaker 4: Some might say.
Speaker 1: Eh for some for a short amount of time, not
Speaker 1: a very long time.
Speaker 9: I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm white boy.
Speaker 2: Wizard said that's why y'all got a hunt and grow
Speaker 2: your own food and referring referring to the uh, the
Speaker 2: shitty food.
Speaker 1: Yea lucky seven.
Speaker 2: Nico said, what about Georgia guidestones got blown up to say,
Speaker 2: fuck this rule?
Speaker 1: We multiplying like China.
Speaker 4: Oh, I hope we do. I hope Americans can figure
Speaker 4: it the fuck out here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Please, everybody have babies and like, take care of your
Speaker 3: babies too. Don't just be breeding just for the fuck
Speaker 3: of it here, don't be sluts about it. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: have kids, raised families. Let's grow the American way, Like
Speaker 3: this is this is the correct. Fuck the two point
Speaker 3: five kids per household rule. We're getting trounced by multiple
Speaker 3: other cultures because they're breeding like rabbits. Meanwhile, we're over
Speaker 3: here like trying to be responsible. Look, be responsible and
Speaker 3: meaning taking care of your responsibilities.
Speaker 4: But have babies.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually, Trump just put something out here lately or recently,
Speaker 2: talking about like the uh what was it, the the
Speaker 2: extra tax refund like you're getting more for having more
Speaker 2: kids now or something like that.
Speaker 4: I don't see why not? Fuck yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh and also the no taxes on tips just passed today.
Speaker 4: Good things. Hell yeah, good shit.
Speaker 2: I think it's like certain qualified type of tips. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's for all tips.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. We'll look into it at some point.
Speaker 5: Um.
Speaker 2: He also said, not only nine to eleven, Let's bring
Speaker 2: up the songs that bring it up, even Spanish songs.
Speaker 2: Said about a plane hitting the towers, and what about
Speaker 2: the movies predicted predicting predictive programming is real, and then
Speaker 2: Tony said, what songs the White Boy Wizard posted. Construction
Speaker 2: on the World Trade Center officially began August fifth, nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty six. The first two years of construction were primarily
Speaker 2: focused on below ground work. The Twin towers started their
Speaker 2: vertical climb in nineteen sixty eight, so at least that
Speaker 2: far back. Lucky said, I'm not sure, but the only
Speaker 2: I know example is look up Party Coop album and
Speaker 2: the song I heard in Spanish was I think in
Speaker 2: the nineties, but I can't remember the name system of
Speaker 2: a down, Toxicity, Slayer Talks, or Slayer. But these can
Speaker 2: be debunked, but it depends on how you see it.
Speaker 3: Wait, Toxicity came out, hold on, that was after nine
Speaker 3: to eleven.
Speaker 4: I thought I could be wrong here.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was around that time for sure. Tony said, the
Speaker 2: hijackers just plot thousand and one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what month though?
Speaker 2: You know a good point, Tony said, the hijackers just
Speaker 2: plotted a year or two in advance. They were monitored
Speaker 2: by US and Israeli intelligence and allowed to proceed, but
Speaker 2: it was closely it was a closely guarded secret.
Speaker 1: Anybody.
Speaker 15: Oh.
Speaker 3: It was released January twenty second of two thousand and two,
Speaker 3: so after nine eleven.
Speaker 4: It was Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It was the second single from their album Toxicity, which
Speaker 3: was released on September fourth, two thousand and one. But
Speaker 3: I know the song, and I'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: where it talks about planes hitting the world towers in
Speaker 3: the in the song.
Speaker 4: I know that song pretty damn well. So I thought,
Speaker 4: let me, let me look.
Speaker 2: The toxicity of a city of our city.
Speaker 1: Go, that's a fucking banger. Dude, fucking right, dude, um zombie,
Speaker 1: I think said, have you seen the VIDs of those
Speaker 1: old people in the really creepy skin Walker situation? It's
Speaker 1: in the desert. I have not seen this.
Speaker 10: I have not.
Speaker 4: Also, yeah, I'm looking at the lyrics.
Speaker 3: I see nothing about twin towers or anything like that
Speaker 3: they're talking about, like, you know, the toxicity in our cities. Sure,
Speaker 3: but if you look at System of It Down themselves,
Speaker 3: what they sing about, Yeah, it's politically motivated. But that's
Speaker 3: because they're all Algerian and they speak a lot about
Speaker 3: the genocide that took place in their homeland, what we
Speaker 3: would now think about with Bosnia and the whole Muslim
Speaker 3: genocide that went down there in the nineties. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they're very politically motivated in that regard for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh, System of a Down. That Toxicity song hit number
Speaker 2: one on nine to eleven on the Child, So I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's what it's referring to.
Speaker 4: I mean, all right, okay.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's more to it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The the release of the album Toxicity on September fourth
Speaker 2: and the nine to eleven tragedy had a great impact. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to go there. Okay, maybe there's something
Speaker 2: to it. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Scared animal, you know? Or do you just had your
Speaker 1: hand raised?
Speaker 5: Uh, it was actually just raised, but didn't know because
Speaker 5: it was on now even but you know what tat
Speaker 5: dollar deal?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can fold it so many different ways. You
Speaker 2: see the towers burning down?
Speaker 1: Yes, sure incidents.
Speaker 3: Was that a coincidence, Jacob, It's possible to make sure
Speaker 3: itself is of the was it not? The White House?
Speaker 3: Is it with the bushes and shit? But I mean
Speaker 3: you could also folded up a certain way to spell
Speaker 3: like new World Order or money is God, and you
Speaker 3: could just fold it these ways. I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: every single bit of that's a coincidence. But also if
Speaker 3: you're looking hard enough for a pattern, you'll find one.
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's no getting to you.
Speaker 2: So the twenty dollars bill can be folded in a
Speaker 2: way that some claim resembles the burning the burning of
Speaker 2: the World Trade Center towers, which has led to various
Speaker 2: interpretations and conspiracies. Since the nine to eleven attacks, this
Speaker 2: folding trick has gained attention as a curious phenomena reflecting
Speaker 2: on American culture interceptions of the event.
Speaker 3: So real quick, you said it was a twenty dollars bill, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that template of the twenty dollars bill has been
Speaker 3: relatively unchanged, or at least not until the early two
Speaker 3: thousands they started putting the colors and the extra stuff
Speaker 3: on it. Was that twenty dollars bill template used prior
Speaker 3: to the World Trade centers being built?
Speaker 4: Because at that point, yeah, I would I would call
Speaker 4: that a coincidence.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it a coincidence that there's an all
Speaker 2: seeing eye with a fucking pyramid on the back of
Speaker 2: it too?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 3: Because it was masonically derived and we've talked about that
Speaker 3: a million times.
Speaker 4: To trade center.
Speaker 3: Is being burned down when they didn't even exist when
Speaker 3: the money was force formed. The Masonic imagery has been
Speaker 3: around since before America was founded.
Speaker 1: Oh have you seen this one on the dollar bill?
Speaker 1: Bro Let me show.
Speaker 4: You this one.
Speaker 1: Have you seen that I have?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where did it go?
Speaker 10: There?
Speaker 1: It is? That's that's trippy. I mean yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of that.
Speaker 2: Either really good imagination or it's hidden in code, and
Speaker 2: both for the people that are just listening. If you
Speaker 2: fold a one dollar bill where the eagle emblem is
Speaker 2: on the back, and you darken.
Speaker 4: The outside, you can make it look like a alien.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you can actually kind of see it, you know,
Speaker 2: with the eyes raded here the nose for the eagle,
Speaker 2: oh wow, Yeah, you can kind of see like a
Speaker 2: little mouth with some lips being formed right here. It
Speaker 2: almost looks like Thanos's nuts actionin. And then of course
Speaker 2: you got the mandola on the forehead right there.
Speaker 3: Mmmm.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, dude, who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2: We could just be crazy. I don't believe that that's
Speaker 2: what we do. I don't think we are, though. I
Speaker 2: think our third eyes are all the way the fuck
Speaker 2: hoping baby, there you go, Tony said, man Dary is good.
Speaker 2: It allowed the growth of many civilizations.
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that like in the past, it
Speaker 3: wasn't needed as a food source. I'm saying that with
Speaker 3: our modern nutrition and how we see things now, like
Speaker 3: we we don't need it in our food pyramid the
Speaker 3: way that we were taught in school, right that same
Speaker 3: food pyramid said that we needed twelve servings of grain
Speaker 3: per day, which is fucking insane. But like, yes, it
Speaker 3: has helped and it's a filler and like it has.
Speaker 3: Basically you could backtrack human civilization. Could they make bread? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would that would determine if they were a thriving
Speaker 3: society or not. Now I'm not negating a time and
Speaker 3: place for that for sure, but with what we know
Speaker 3: now about everything, we don't need dairy for animal proteins.
Speaker 4: We could just eat meat. That's just me.
Speaker 1: Mario said, let's pull in our VA home loans and
Speaker 1: make a huge farm.
Speaker 4: Dude. That's literally what I'm thinking at this time.
Speaker 3: So you know, I use a VA Home loan for
Speaker 3: this one, and the deal was that you can't use
Speaker 3: it for a rental for the first two years. Well
Speaker 3: it's been about eight, so we rocking.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's what your boy owned.
Speaker 2: Benjamin, he kind of well, not with the VA loans,
Speaker 2: but he created his own little.
Speaker 1: Runaway in a community. Yeah, like a compound. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: created a compound.
Speaker 2: It's called Bartaria or Barritaria or something like that.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to talk to him about it. His brain, dude.
Speaker 1: There's like documentaries on it. You should watch. It's awesome.
Speaker 2: There's like in everybody it's kind of weird because everybody's like,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's a bear.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I do remember this.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, everybody's got like a bear name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like Papa Bear. And then there's like, you know,
Speaker 2: Welder Bear and plumber Bear and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like everybody is like a bear thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It could just be a drunk was that's Owen Benjamin.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk to him at Brohemian Grove
Speaker 3: about this one.
Speaker 2: He's also now keep in mind he's also a comedian,
Speaker 2: so and he looks into all the conspiracy and so
Speaker 2: he's probably playing a riff off of that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's a cult by any means.
Speaker 3: But I didn't say that, neither did you.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that because I think it's an awesome
Speaker 2: idea to have some kind of like basically a breakaway civilization,
Speaker 2: you know, and with that, and that's what I.
Speaker 3: Want to talk to him about, like the how did
Speaker 3: you get started? How much land was needed, which I
Speaker 3: was farming situation, How are you creating enough food on
Speaker 3: the grounds to where people can sustain I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna ask him about the bear names. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: let that one be a ohwen thing.
Speaker 1: I'll ask him.
Speaker 4: You do it because you have a different way about
Speaker 4: you than I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't scared.
Speaker 4: That's not me being scared. I just don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't wanted to come across in a slightly offensive way.
Speaker 3: And I you know, I have a way about me.
Speaker 3: Some people get down with it, some people don't. I'm
Speaker 3: much more interested in the water purification and in the farming,
Speaker 3: and in the crops and the yield from the land.
Speaker 4: That's my jam.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna call him Daddy Bear whenever I meet him.
Speaker 3: Oh, for the love, just fuck with them, dude, find
Speaker 3: out if it's Daddy Bear, Papa Bear.
Speaker 4: Let's call him by his correct name.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's Zaddy Bear.
Speaker 4: Oh, for the love of fuck, Oh.
Speaker 1: God, I love it.
Speaker 2: The white boy wizard said, come add, Come add to mine,
Speaker 2: buy the house next door. I already got me a
Speaker 2: little compound, going gardens, fruit trees, wall of penie which
Speaker 2: is a fancy greenhouse, chicken and still adding every day,
Speaker 2: got raw mil gary right around the corner, so delicious.
Speaker 2: Only bad part it's Idaho and the winners. Uh will
Speaker 2: kick that ass. If you ain't used to it.
Speaker 4: See that's my one thing.
Speaker 3: Ien doesn't run through your state and you don't touch
Speaker 3: the Gulf of America. So I'm going to a polite
Speaker 3: pass on that. But I am happy to see you
Speaker 3: doing the most and making the best of a big dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Nora said, Uh, the new favorite quote is
Speaker 2: don't be sluts about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't be sluts about it. But have babies, have
Speaker 3: tons of babies. It's like such a good thing to
Speaker 3: do with your life.
Speaker 2: But oh, that's right, Baritaria is in northern Idaho. I
Speaker 2: thought it was in Idaho when you said that, because
Speaker 2: it's like land is like super cheap out there, and
Speaker 2: you can get like a fucking shitload of acreage out
Speaker 2: there for on the on the cheap, I think, right, Uh,
Speaker 2: white boy Wizard, like land is pretty available.
Speaker 12: I mean.
Speaker 15: So it definitely was pretty scamdemic, dude, But I'm you know,
Speaker 15: I run my own little outfit doing construction and whatnot,
Speaker 15: and like, starting in March of twenty twenty, we got
Speaker 15: fucking hammer dog and like we're just barely slowing down.
Speaker 15: So unfortunately, the price of land and house like fresh
Speaker 15: you know, new construction, it's gone through the fucking roof
Speaker 15: around here. So I'm in southeast Idaho, like the biggest
Speaker 15: city's Boise. And if you're looking at a map and
Speaker 15: you go do east, just straight across pretty much where
Speaker 15: I am. I at right on the Wyoming border. But it's,
Speaker 15: you know, the second biggest metropolis or whatever in Idaho.
Speaker 15: So I mean compared to other places. Yes, still cheaper
Speaker 15: than but compared to what we used to be.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck no.
Speaker 15: All those dickheads sold their shit ass houses in fucking
Speaker 15: California for one point two million dollars. It was two bedrooms,
Speaker 15: one bedroom, fucking hood and then moved Adah, and now
Speaker 15: they think they're kings.
Speaker 1: Dude, what size of your gauges? I'm thinking about making
Speaker 1: the mine a little.
Speaker 15: Better rant over. Sorry, uh, these on the three quarter, I.
Speaker 2: Got that double zero and little hesitant to stretch them
Speaker 2: any farther than that.
Speaker 1: But I do got the pinks in though, you see that. Yeah?
Speaker 15: Thanks, I'm OBSESSI of plugs, dude. I have a fucking
Speaker 15: whole ass box of crazy ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a bunch of them too. I like
Speaker 2: the tunnels. I like the rubber tunnels more than anything else.
Speaker 2: The plugs, they just it's like too much. When you
Speaker 2: lay your head down, it's like you feel it against
Speaker 2: your neck. And ship the rubber tunnels, I don't feel.
Speaker 15: Them at all, right, I only sleep in the rubber
Speaker 15: tunnels for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually bought some some octopus like uh,
Speaker 2: steel gauges. Pretty fucking gangster, but I can't sleep with
Speaker 2: those in there. They're fucking you know. It doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: We're pretty much caught up outside of some of the memes.
Speaker 2: But uh, Spear and Animal, go ahead and give your
Speaker 2: sind off here, sir, if you would.
Speaker 14: We're not just pull away.
Speaker 5: If you all be the ko and.
Speaker 2: He's finally learning of finally learning, I love it, Uh, Jacob.
Speaker 1: Can we get some knife hands up in this beach?
Speaker 9: We can?
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