Speaker 1: You. I'm now listening to soft core History.
Speaker 2: What is up? Welcome back to soft core History. I
am your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined as
always by Dan Rejester.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to be with you. Rob at my apartment.
Speaker 2: It's my home away from home.
Speaker 1: Feel lucky this week, Yeah, feel lucky this week.
Speaker 2: You got a good weekend.
Speaker 1: Last night I had to confront some crackheads. Oh yeah, yeah,
in your parking lot. Yeah. So I got back from
the movies at about one o'clock at night. Saw a
car that clearly did not belong here.
Speaker 2: With a very classic stuff you but go on.
Speaker 1: Cracked windshield, beat up car, woman sleeping in it, look
without teeth.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, so you gotta take a nap.
Speaker 1: And uh. Turns out her boyfriend was going around just
breaking into the cars.
Speaker 2: Just seeing what was open or smashing.
Speaker 1: Uh, just seeing what was up and yeah, pulling handles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it confronted him, chased them off. He left good.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he doesn't want to you know, he.
Speaker 1: Didn't want that smoke.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like a it's like a raccoon, right, m
If you if you catch it digging in your trash
and yell at it'll leave unless it's rabbit and he
wasn't rabbit. The rabbit. The human rabidity is he was
on PCP and he wasn't on PCP.
Speaker 1: I've done it before though, and they usually have a
gun on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you do that? Then just call the cops.
Speaker 1: No, dude, hand around business, all right, because you don't
have a gun. Not a knife.
Speaker 2: Okay, we can't bring gonna have to a gunfight. Everybody
knows this.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been playing enough Red Dead Redemption. I
could throw the knife right, throw his skull.
Speaker 2: I wish you were Italian so I could uh use
the line from Untouchables like a typical Diego. I think
he calls him Madego. He uses some Italian slur.
Speaker 1: The Mick doesn't really use a knife too often, I
don't know. No, Well, unless they're like pruning the flowers
the florist in.
Speaker 2: The town, or or it's a matter of honor for
Amsterdam in gangs in New York, and you know he
has to use knives, good boy. Yeah, so sometimes yeah,
but yeah, I like.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a wound. That's a wound. I like, that's
a kill.
Speaker 2: Brendan Gleason's fucking Chilely Club. He just notches in gangs
in New York. Big grdhead dude. Yeah, anyway, we got
a fun one today.
Speaker 1: They're always fun. They're always fun when I'm with my
best friend.
Speaker 2: I like this one because it's both topical and evergreen?
Speaker 1: Are you just gonna plow through that? Okay? I don't
make it like your top five list? If this was
my space, would I be in the top eight?
Speaker 2: You're one of like four adults I see regularly this point.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but are you gonna be one of those
lamb adults that say their kids are their best friends.
You don't know your kids yet?
Speaker 2: Fuck No, they stink, even if they're rad like.
Speaker 1: They actually smell, I don't. I don't have any opinion
on their personalities yet because they haven't developed.
Speaker 2: Think they don't smell, I mean the same he shits
the pants still. But yeah, the other two are fine.
Speaker 1: Finn occasionally, he's not fully trained yet.
Speaker 2: No, he's plays fully potty trained. I mean he will
from time to time lose sight of things.
Speaker 1: Listen, guys, our age. We get one a year. You're
allowed to poop your pants and it's totally excused.
Speaker 2: Of Fin's probably on one in twenty twenty six, he
uses up.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah he gets a couple more.
Speaker 2: Yeah he gets a few mullions being a three year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, breakfast balls.
Speaker 2: But no, So I actually said I was gonna do
this episode a while ago. I can't remem if I
said on the Patreon of the main because I can't
remember where that episode.
Speaker 1: We don't remember anything we say on the show.
Speaker 2: To be fair, at Blackout, I'm Will Ferrell debating in
old school. I'm just like those shows over and I'm like, oh,
what happened? Like if someone tried to cancel me for
what I said on this Not that would ever happen,
but I would. I would literally just be like, I
don't we could only dream. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah we get canceled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get to that level. But I'd
be like, dude, I don't know what I'm saying. Shouldn't listen.
Speaker 1: We're not important enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm here, I'm not even trying to do
like the John Stewart like, well, I'm just a coomedia.
It's just like I literally when you have to talk
this much, like, it's.
Speaker 1: Just we're gonna have some bad takes bad takes.
Speaker 2: I don't even know that I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stumble over my words. I'm gonna mispronounce things.
I'm gonna get things wrong all the time.
Speaker 2: That's why it's soft core. His that's really our greatest
shield softcore history.
Speaker 1: Also maybe our biggest uh barrier to entry. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the porno pun might be a hard ceiling uh.
Speaker 1: To play on Dan Carling.
Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah hard. He started with the porno term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not me, He's simply our stepfather.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is an apt way to put it for
the porno metaphors. Anyway, it is opening day of Major
League Baseball this week, Yeah, it is, so today we're
doing an episode I promised previously the all Heaven and
All Hell Baseball teams, and who would win.
Speaker 1: Like guys that are certainly in hell? Yeah, like Ty Cobb.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what he was really sway.
Speaker 2: At the end, we're gonna assume he wasn't. Okay, he didn't.
Doesn't strike me as the type.
Speaker 1: How can we justify somebody going to heaven though we
don't know some of these dirt bags.
Speaker 2: Na, all the guys I picked are pretty, they're sweethearts. Okay,
Like I mean, like Roberto clin impeachable, Roberto Clemente is
in heaven, stand mutual's in heaven.
Speaker 1: Clemente is dead? What I'm kidding?
Speaker 2: Like they named the award for like best human being
in baseball every year after Roberto Clemente.
Speaker 1: Like, I know nothing about cy Young except that he
pitched all the time.
Speaker 2: Uh, he didn't have enough smoke to me to decide
on an afterlife. This is like a These are like definitive.
Speaker 1: Do we have an all purgatory team? I should have?
I should have?
Speaker 2: Well, save that for later. This was like fairly intensive
finding some of that at the hell where this is
what we're mostly focused on the Helton.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with the Jewish players? They
don't believe in an afterlife.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any Jewish players on this list. Also,
Sandy Kofax is still alive. I don't know which dead
Jewish So this is one of the rules. They have
to be dead. They have to be in heaven or
hell right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, either looking down or up?
Speaker 2: Yes now, I will say.
Speaker 1: And Sandy Kofax is the only Jewish player I really know.
Speaker 2: Right and he's alive for now.
Speaker 1: For now, he's close, be kind of morbid if he
just passes in the next you know, two hours before
we put the show out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We also have a Sean Green of the Dodgers,
who famously hit four homers in a game one time,
I think in Milwaukee. But he's alive obviously, m hm.
So yeah, they have to be dead. They have to
be qualified in the afterlife for playing.
Speaker 1: Okay, So but what about kind of those rare situations
like a Ted Williams who froze his head. We don't
know where his soul is.
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't make the list, okay, because look he
Ted Williams is an interesting case because Ted Williams famously
a dick. Yes, like a dick, but just surly right.
We're hero though, war hero, yes, but killed people in war?
Speaker 1: So that count? I don't know, I don't count any
the eyes of God. Does that matter if you're killing
the enemy of a.
Speaker 2: War, Well, it matters, I guess, depending on the war,
like if you're if you're some like Mongolian raping and
pillaging some Viking.
Speaker 1: But he's definitely in hell because he cheated death. He
froze himself.
Speaker 2: Well if his brain function is frozen in time, then
his soul is tethered to here. Okay, but he didn't
make the list either way, gotcha. But he is he
is a purgatory team. He might be the purgatory team captain.
Speaker 1: He is, he's the coach, yeah, player captain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just have heaven and health funck Yeah,
he's on team Purgatory for sure. We have Heaven and Hell. Today,
we're mostoly gonna focus on Hell because heaven's not that
fun Like he's just like, yeah, he's a nice guy.
He's nice guy. He's nice guy. Whatever and really good.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm also gonna debate whether or not they weren't.
Speaker 2: That's fine, and we can.
Speaker 1: I might know some little nuggets that point against their
case for Heaven.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I had to keep Tony Gwynn off of
Team Heaven.
Speaker 1: Because you just hate Tonywin.
Speaker 2: I think probably, Uh, we have to.
Speaker 1: Address that's the elephant in the room when it comes
to this specific podcast. Why do you hate Tony Gwinn
so much?
Speaker 2: The old slap and wattle.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you like to hit for average slapping wattle
got on base.
Speaker 2: I just can't. I'm not totally certain that a glutton
like Tony Gwynn made it to heaven.
Speaker 1: Uh, you're a bad dude. You're just a bad guy.
Imagine if his son hears this, that could easily get
to him.
Speaker 2: I could easily get to him. I mean technically, is.
Speaker 1: He still in the league. No, no, No, I didn't
know if he was floating around as like a utility guy.
Speaker 2: No, he was. He was in the league like twenty
years ago.
Speaker 1: Also, I think Tony gwyn Junior. Yeah, really, like it
couldn't have been there.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe like sixteen years ago, like twenty ten. Basically, yeah,
he's he's born. He was Tony when Junior was born
in nineteen eighty two, So he would be a miracle
if he was still playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no real concept of how old Tony
Gwynn was when he died.
Speaker 2: He was young. He died young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I don't know how long ago that was.
It's been a while. Time's just passed me by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It could have been five days
ago for all I know. But so yeah, again, they
have to be dead. So there's no Wander Franco or
Barry Bonds on the team. Hell list both of them
will make it eventually.
Speaker 1: But what about guys that almost died, like Big Poppy.
Speaker 2: I think he's Team Heaving and he's just too jovial
to go to hell.
Speaker 1: He definitely was on the Royds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was choosing. I didn't really use I didn't
really put any steroids. People all the stairs we were alive,
except for like Ken Cammanitty, But I don't think Ken kammanity.
He would be on Team Purgatory if anything.
Speaker 1: Big Poppy, though, also banged a drug dealer's wife. That's
why he got shot shot.
Speaker 2: Maybe he was saving her from that life.
Speaker 1: That's true. Probably not, But is it really adultery if
you're doing it to a bad guy's wife.
Speaker 2: If it's not your fault, not your problem. I mean,
I guess if you knowingly do it, which he probably
did knowingly do it.
Speaker 1: But but I'm pretty sure he like briefly died with
the amount of bloody lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the best ability is availability, and he's not available.
He's not available for Team Heaven.
Speaker 1: No, he's available for TV yeah, but not for Team
Heavy Yeah yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's get into the all Hell team
of Major League Baseball players we're starting with the man
we covered the catcher, Marty Bergen of the Boston Bean Eaters.
If you're wondering why he's in hell, I highly recommend
listening to the full episode. But the long and short
of it.
Speaker 1: Is that's on Paton patron dot com, sast soft garestory.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think you think you're right. Patroon comes,
We'll go into his whole backstory. He was. First off,
he was insane, and that insanity climax in nineteen hundred
when he murders suicided his family, Yeah, with an axe,
including his two small children and his wife. These first
ballot all hell oh yeah, unlike for the Hall of Fame,
in which he did receive votes but did not make
it in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be weird. It's like putting Chris Bmwo on
the WWF Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: It is funny to me that, like, I think Kurt
Shilling received votes, but they're trying to keep They kept
Kurt Shilling out.
Speaker 1: He kept Kurt Shilling out because he's a dick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for his memory, he deserves to be in.
Speaker 1: He's because he had a failed video game company.
Speaker 2: Like, well, no, it's because he posts like fucked up
memes essentially, and and he was I think he was
also this this will sink you to uh jerk to
the media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be mean to those nerds.
Speaker 2: Nope, they hold you out, hold a grudge, they really do,
and they're all too happy to do it. Kurt, who
who he is as a human being?
Speaker 1: Do you think that all little valve though? With all
the older sports writers dying off like Bob Ryan's will
get worse. Do you think so?
Speaker 2: The younger sports writers are way more of a character
clause types.
Speaker 1: M so, because it's already in place. They want to
live up to that kind of stigma.
Speaker 2: Now they'll use the character clause to make people adhere
to their coastal sensibilities.
Speaker 1: Essentially their political beliefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more or less. What about the write guys, though,
they'll be cool with them, they'll be better with them, gotcha.
But if you went out and were like, I want
Donald Trump to be president, there, it's gonna cross their
Mind's gonna cross their mind.
Speaker 1: That's not more baseball players than you would have. Yeah,
it's a lot, though you're eliminated in half.
Speaker 2: Any Yeah, look, that's not a comment on the president.
One or another. That's not what I'm trying to do here.
I'm just telling you that I follow enough of them
on Twitter. That is how they think that is gonna
come up.
Speaker 1: Like they're also rich as fuck what most baseball players?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit, So.
Speaker 1: Oh they want a tax break. They're gonna vote Republican.
Speaker 2: It's just what they're gonna do. Yeah, Now I think
that they would, they would at least be like, you know,
who knows how Mike Trout voted. But Mike Trout doesn't
talk about anything except clouds.
Speaker 1: So he loves the weather and he loves the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'll they'll be fine with him because they
don't know. They might know come home sweep, but he
didn't talk about it. But yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: Being wasted away in Anaheim.
Speaker 2: It's it's the saddest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: He should be in team hell just for that.
Speaker 2: Selfish potential selfishness. Yeah, I agree with that. At this point,
it's on him. It used to not be on him.
Speaker 1: It's on him now being so selfless you're actually self it.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's kind of.
Speaker 1: The man, the trade guy.
Speaker 2: That's kind of a thing. Yeah, uh so, Marty Bergan
killed his whole family with an axe.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: And in his defense, like I said, he was fucking insane.
He was an all defense catcher. Think of like one
of the other Molina brother like Benji, like all d.
Speaker 1: No, Bat, They're not gonna like that comparison the Molina
brothers with this guy. Y.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But he did also once in a game miss
every pitch thrown to him because he thought there was
a ghost standing next to him trying to stab him. Yeah,
he was constantly.
Speaker 1: Now remind me why was he insane? Was it like
a mercury situation?
Speaker 2: No, it was just genetic. I think they think he
had schizophrenia and stuff. That's right, and it might have
been founded by blows to the head.
Speaker 1: I don't cte. Yeah, yeah, which cam' skataboo does not
believe in doctor Cam's Kataboo. Listen, he had to apologize
for that. Don't do that's cam. No, there's no reason
to apologize for being yourself.
Speaker 2: Also, what do you want from a man named cam'
kataboo from Arizona State? What do you what? Could you
possibly this is what I want?
Speaker 1: This is actually what I want from.
Speaker 2: Candile, actually demand of a man named Cam Skatt.
Speaker 1: Hard nose running back three yards in a cloud of dust.
Head first, he's just like he is living proof of CTE. Yeah,
if anybody would know about ct it's him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got so much ct that he doesn't
think it exists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually breaking off on the other side of
the horseshoe. Yeah, he's actually perfectly fine. Now, Like, at
a certain point you develop Parkinson's. But if you go
past that point, totally fine.
Speaker 2: You gotta get through. It's like it's like running, keep going. Yeah,
you gotta just keep keep chugging, keep those legs moving.
But yeah, So Marty Bergen also thought people were trying
to assassinate him constantly. Okay, he would sit in certain
ways in the dugout so that he could kind of
have like a three sixty vision to make sure an
assassin doesn't.
Speaker 1: Gotta have your back to a wall, ye.
Speaker 2: Dick head teammate.
Speaker 1: I always do that when I go out nowadays, I
just kind of assess the situation.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta be facing the door. You can't.
You can't get got by a mass shooter in like
a Chipotle or something.
Speaker 1: You can't be a made man well we're not. No,
so it's fine, but I always get that confused. Made
man in the Italian mob means you're a higher up,
but it also means you get assassinated.
Speaker 2: No, you can't touch a made man. And the reason
that Joe Peshi was killed in Goodfella is because he
killed a made man.
Speaker 1: Right, But I think you, ah, yeah, No, I conflict too.
What's it mean when you actually whack a dude? Is
it's just whack?
Speaker 2: I guess?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, wrong ethnicity.
Speaker 1: To we need more Italian viewpoints.
Speaker 2: Get Ronica Becca on here. I don't think she would
have much insight into it, but maybe it's in her blood.
Speaker 1: Well, she doesn't believe they're white.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those guys don't either.
Speaker 1: Most Italian, like the real Gabagoula, the Sicilians certainly not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they almost have a case to be honest,
just the way they were treated, Oh, the way they're
treat but also they were they were conquered by the
Arabs for a while and then the Normans came in there.
They're a real melting pot. So right next to North Africa, Yeah,
that's absolutely melting pot. They might have a case Marty
Bergen Uh also, I think at least once just like
slapped the shit out of his teammate because he thought
he was talking shit. Oh and he got in a
fight with all of his teammates because after one of
his children died, he came back to the team and
they were all like mart like they didn't like him,
but they were like, Marty, were so sorry, like that's awful,
We're here for you. And he was basically just like
Adam Sandler in his audio sketcher or the one It's
what it's spoofing Carrie's Mom where he's just he was
just like you all were laughing at me. Yeah, like
he thought they were all like making fun of him
because his kid died, which.
Speaker 1: Was the worst person to be around.
Speaker 2: Not the case at all, Like they were like, Marty,
I'm so sorry you were laughing at me.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, maybe had Joe Peshi vibes from Goodfellas
kind of me.
Speaker 2: He's a loose cannon.
Speaker 1: You can't say anything to him.
Speaker 2: No, you couldn't. You couldn't. He was, and they refused
to play with him after a while, like they were
just like, we're not coming back if he's coming back.
Speaker 1: Bad locker room guy, bad chemistry, Just get him out
of here.
Speaker 2: Bad husband and father.
Speaker 1: Team hell already you know has its issues with the roster.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not a great locker room in team ol
m uh first up or next up?
Speaker 1: God forbid to let Terry Francona in there to help
all the players eat fried chicken and drink beer.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll get him going though. That Red Sox
locker room feels like it was kind of a nightmare.
A lot of big personalities, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They fired him for that.
Speaker 2: They won though, Like do you what do you want?
Speaker 1: Why did they fire him for fried chicken and beer?
Speaker 2: I don't know? Then he win him two World Series?
Speaker 1: Like, fuck off, fuck off?
Speaker 2: He should have been there for life. At first base,
we have a bona fide all time great Hall of Famer,
the great cap Anson.
Speaker 1: You know this guy unfamiliar with his game. Okay.
Speaker 2: He was a player manager for the Chicago White Stockings
for most of his career. Now the White Stockings turns out.
Speaker 1: No relation to the White Socks. They're the Cubs. They're
the Cubs, stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He led the team to six National League pennants
from eighteen seventy six to eighteen eighty six, which at
that time meant you were the champion. Like period, there
was no World Series, So six championships.
Speaker 1: Wait during reconstruction.
Speaker 2: Seventy six to eighty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just funny to think about baseball back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a line in Deadwood, which takes place in
that time period where Dan elsewhar Engin's like right hand man.
They're getting a newspaper and he's like, get get the
newspapers that report on the baseball games. Got so I
was like, I want to read about that.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: Cap Anson was baseball's arguably its first true superstar. He
was charismatic, he was influential, and he was a pioneer
in professionalizing the game. He finished his career with ninety
one wins above replacement, three thirty three batting average, over
two thousand RBI, almost two thousand runs, and he was
the first player in Major League Baseball history to record
three thousand hits.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's a trailblazer.
Speaker 2: An absolute trailblazer. But there was one trail cap Anson
would not blaze, and that is he was maybe the
loudest voice at the onset of professional baseball in making
sure that not a single black man touched the field.
Speaker 1: Ah well, given the time, there were plenty of people
who were fine with it.
Speaker 2: In fact, there were black people playing on certain teams.
So they were playing the Toledo Bluestockings in eighteen eighty
three and Anson.
Speaker 1: They don't acknowledge that Jackie Robinson gets all the love.
Speaker 2: Uh, he gets all the love for breaking the modern
color barrier. But there were so the Toledo's catcher, Moses
Walker was the first the first known black player in
major leagues.
Speaker 1: Also, who could forget Babe Ruth.
Speaker 2: We'll get to him.
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth black man. Yeah, everyone knows that.
Speaker 2: He refused to let his team take the field because
Moses Walker was playing catcher for Toledo. Anson repeatedly dropped
the N bomb on the field and vowed his team
would never play against a black player again.
Speaker 1: However, so you're gonna forfeit those games?
Speaker 2: Did? Toledo had an ace in the hole, which is
they were like, Okay, you don't play this fucking game.
We are not sharing the ticket money with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get fucked ye, and you're gonna no call, no show,
no money.
Speaker 2: Well, they were on the field. He was on the
field dropping n bombs at Walker being like, we're not
playing with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not going to participate, you get no money.
Speaker 2: Yep. Now he backed down then because they need the money.
Would have been a huge angel hit to the team.
They're glorified hoboes at this point. They are box car
hoboes traveling. What's the thing? What's what is it called?
Like the knapsack on the stick? I forget what it's called.
There's a bendal, a bendle, the bendals on their baseball bat.
Speaker 1: Essentially, it's a baseball bat with the glove hanging off
and then whatever you can fit in your glove besides
the ball. That's all you have. Those are your worldly possessions.
Speaker 2: However, his stance remained hard fast. In eighteen eighty seven,
he again was confronted with this.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: They were playing Newark and Moses Walker found himself on Newark.
At that point, they also had a black pitcher named
George Stovey. So black people were playing in Major League
Baseball at this time. But this time Anson was famous
enough or whatever that he was able to get the
black players removed from the lineup. Oh what yeah, the
game went on. They weren't allowed to use their starting
pitcher or their starting catcher.
Speaker 1: How does he have that kind of influence on the
other team.
Speaker 2: He's the biggest star in the sport.
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 2: They cared.
Speaker 1: I guess that's going to affect some gambling tickets. I'd
be upset. Yeah right, yeah, Like, no, any way, my
guy can't play because dude, but.
Speaker 2: Your bookie's like, no, you didn't. You didn't check the
must start box.
Speaker 1: Just that it kind of seems like it there's more
foul play there than just this player.
Speaker 2: This was certainly the wild West of fixed baseball at
this point.
Speaker 1: Certainly, I mean everything at that point was fixed, all
the fights, all the horse racings.
Speaker 2: So this incident is often cited by baseball historians as
the tipping point that emboldened owners to enforce segregation, because
at the time, some of them were like, I don't know, man,
we're not that good. Let's just like find some black
guys who could play and get the edge. And essentially
all the owners were like, if guys like cap Anson
are gonna bitch, it's not worth the trouble really, and
segregation became formal because of cap Anson.
Speaker 1: He got it on the book.
Speaker 2: He got it on the books. He was his star
power and the fact that he was a coach not
just a player, and it became an informal gentleman's agreement
among the owners to just keep black players out of baseball.
Speaker 1: So the original Colin Kaepernick situation that actually happened, right, Yeah,
every owner agreed, no no blacks in the sport. Yes,
thanks to cap Anson, kind of just like a wink
and a nod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks to Cap Hansen. Okay, first base for hell,
Cap Hansen.
Speaker 1: Oh so I'm not saying that about Colin Kaepernick to
be fair, what Like, I don't think there was just
some agreement between owners to not sign him.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't talk to each other.
Speaker 1: No, I think they just realized he got benched.
Speaker 2: He I don't care, And he was he was good enough.
He was good enough at that point to be a
backup on any team.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't worth a headache.
Speaker 2: He wasn't worth a headache.
Speaker 1: It was like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow was not he
was He's perfectly fine to be a backup in the NFL, right.
Speaker 2: But you were gonna have these with the circus that
came with them. No, they didn't have to talk to
each other because they were all like, I mean, football
teams unless unless you're really good. Football teams will not
deal with the headache. Pro sports teams won't deal with
headche unless you are literally a superstar at that point.
Kaepernick wasn't if he was twenty if that was happening
when he led them to the super Bowl, and he
wouldn't miss it a start, wouldn't miss a single start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but once you suck at the sport, tutulu, that's
all they care about.
Speaker 2: It's sort of the dark side of meritocracy, I guess
if you will. Because he he was good enough to
be a backup. But again, so this guy was.
Speaker 1: So good he got all blacks banned from the sport. Yeah,
he was one of the most famous players.
Speaker 2: But I mean he was the most famous player three
thousand hits.
Speaker 1: He was a coach too. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: This is according to baseball historians.
Speaker 1: I just financially don't think that's the way to go
for the owners.
Speaker 2: You think one of them would have been like, no,
I want to win.
Speaker 1: It could be like the Atlanta Braves now and just
paid Dominicans, you know, dirt wages. Just lock them in
long term for really low contracts. The scummy Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Braves got us a ring, got us a ring.
Speaker 1: Covid drink.
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Players missed games because of COVID. It's a COVID drink.
Speaker 2: At second base, we have a former Philadelphia Philly.
Speaker 1: Well, we are like one of the longest run in
sports franchises. Yeah, in all of sport.
Speaker 2: The Phillies weren't his main team though, but he had
a cup of coffee. He finished his career there, I believe.
Speaker 1: Okay, second base.
Speaker 2: We're going Pete Rose, the all time Major League Baseball
hits leader.
Speaker 1: Damn, dude, you're gonna do Pete like this? You interviewed him.
Speaker 2: I did, and you're gonna be like you're in hell now, dude. Well,
I do feel that way about guys who had sex
with fifteen year old when they were married, and.
Speaker 1: H I always forget about that. Yeah, it always gets
glossed over.
Speaker 2: Banged a fifteen year old.
Speaker 1: I always just think of Pete Rose signing Baseball's for
seventy five dollars at card shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people forget about the fifteen year old banging. Yeah,
that's not great, to which he said I thought she
was sixteen.
Speaker 1: Maybe, to which Catholicism says Mary was twelve. But God
doesn't have an age, right, He's timeless, right, so he
could be twelve.
Speaker 2: He's outside a statute of limited like a there's no yeah, gotcha,
he can be. He's anything and everything. Can't him, can't
pin him down?
Speaker 1: Think that charges?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete Rose, though.
Speaker 1: Is this an Oscar winning movie?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Everything everywhere all at once?
Speaker 2: Yeah? One best picture?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was fine. I liked it.
Speaker 2: I never saw it. I'm sure I heard it was good,
but I didn't. But so Pete Rose, all time MLB
hits leader gambled on baseball. But I don't hold that
against him.
Speaker 1: For him, sorry, he believed in his team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do hold it against other people on team Hell,
but he's not one of them.
Speaker 1: Dude, we're gonna get so much action on this game.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Yeah. He also should be noted kind
of a he he's not Ty Cobb level of dirty player,
but like, he ruined a guy's career in the All
Star Game.
Speaker 1: Sorry, he cared.
Speaker 2: He he trucked Ray Fosse if you have the time,
go YouTube Pete Rose, ray Fosse like shattered all of
his bones from in his shoulders.
Speaker 1: It is the baseball equivalent of Sean Taylor Murder and
the Punter and the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just immoral, Like what are you doing? There's
no reason for it now. Pete Rose played a lot
of positions, but he did. He came up as a
second baseman and played over six hundred games there. Yeah,
and the second base was short on pieces of shit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some leadership conflicts here though. Multiple managers on.
Speaker 2: The multiple player managers, Yeah, cap Anson and Pete Rose
Rose again.
Speaker 1: And then the other guys seeing ghost.
Speaker 2: Well, he's in hell, so he's finally valid.
Speaker 1: He has no idea who's talking to him? Which one
is a point of authority, who's in charge? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So Rose he had sex with a girl when she
was either fourteen or fifteen years old in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1: I always forget about that, but I only remember Carl
Malone for doing the same.
Speaker 2: Oh if we can do an NBA one later, but
he has to die first for sure.
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, the only athlete I remember, just
like routinely was hooking up with underage girls, was Karl Malone,
and he just kind.
Speaker 2: Of skates, but you know, I don't It probably wasn't
the only time, but I routinely is probably strong. He
did get the like twelve or thirteen year old girl pregnant, yeah,
which isn't great and he should have been in jail
for that, but everyone in the town kept it quiet
because they didn't want to ruin his career. By the way,
that child was born and ended up playing in the NFL.
Interestingly enough, I forget his name, but so the girl
was either fourteen or fifteen. In nineteen seventy three, when Rose,
who was about thirty two and married to his first wife,
Carolyn and the father of two young children at the time,
he contacted her. They started having sex. It started before
her sixteenth birthday. They also had sex and locations outside Ohio,
which means he was a sex trafficker.
Speaker 1: Ah cross state lines.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and his main his only excuse was just
I thought she was sixteen. Now, sixteen was the age
of consent in Ohio at the time. However, man's laws
are not heavan's laws. I guess you could say that's
still fucked beyond belief, and the fact that he was
married with two young children, Like she was closer in
age to his children than he was to her. Yeah,
and she was a sophomore in high school, maybe a freshman.
Speaker 1: H Yeah. Pete Rose Mosley bad dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah. I think he was kind of like a
serial sexual harassmer too, But I didn't put that down.
Speaker 1: Did you bring it up during your interview or no.
Speaker 2: He talked about how they always won All Star Games
because they had the black players. That's a direct ass
quote that Pete Rose gave me. He was like, we
always won the All Star Games because we played on
AstroTurf and the National League had more of the black players.
We were faster.
Speaker 1: Never meet your hero, those guys. I remember when I
saw Arnold Palmer towards the end of his life when
I was working at Golf Channel and he's given a
speech to the entire company and just starts going on
a tirade about how Asians are going to take over
the sport. I'm like, I hope they're not filming this
and release it. They're not a good look for the King.
Speaker 2: Didn't happen, Uh, not so much.
Speaker 1: On the men's side, Oh they they've.
Speaker 2: Been controlling the win inside for like twenty years. Yeah, yeah,
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Next up, we've got shortstop Swede Risburg.
Speaker 1: Love the name. Yeah he was sure, I won't love
the human.
Speaker 2: Ummm, he's not one of the most egregious on the list.
Speaker 1: It's like the only thing against him. He has tattoos. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's in hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was Jewish and he has tattoos, so couldn't now.
He was one of the ring leaders of the Black
Sox scandal, and despite mostly being a glove first shortstopase.
Speaker 1: Not forbid a white guy get a little motion. Sorry,
he wants to fix the World Series. It doesn't mean
he's in hell.
Speaker 2: Hang on, I'm not done.
Speaker 1: Okay, not done.
Speaker 2: Despite being a glove first shortstop, he was somehow the
guy who muscled people into going along with the World Series.
Speaker 1: He was breaking bones, he was taking down knees.
Speaker 2: He actively pressured holdouts with threats of violence against them
or potentially their families, I think. But most infamously, he
when shoeless Joe Jackson, sweet shoeless Joe, who could barely read,
she like literally, uh was like, I don't know, I
think this is wrong, y'all. Risburg threatened to murder him.
Speaker 1: It was just a threat. He didn't do it and.
Speaker 2: He made which made shoeless Joe go along with the plan. Okay,
Shoeless Joe thought it was real. Joe sweets he he
threatened an illiterate man with murder to fix a world series.
Speaker 1: You're just making excuses for shoeless.
Speaker 2: Joe and shoeless Joe then gets tarnished and banned from
baseball for life. He testified all this and then they're like,
why do you do it? And sheeless Joe goes, this
is just like how sweet and simply was? He just goes,
sweet is a hard guy.
Speaker 1: Hard motherfucker hard mother for hard doesn't mean you're in hell.
Speaker 2: He's in hell? Uh, He went Sweet was also one
of the like he was. He was the person that
played so badly that everyone was He was like Immanuel
Classe throwing a pitch twenty feet outside the box because
he was a defensive superstar. He had four errors and
eight total miscues defensively across the series. His bad feeling
made everyone be like, there's just no fucking way something's
not up. Okay, so he threw the World Series the
hardest of all, after threatening to beat the shit out
of and murder anyone who didn't go along with it.
Speaker 1: He had a bad series and he was taking it
out on his teammates.
Speaker 2: Risberg showed zero remorse for what he did for the
rest of his life.
Speaker 1: Yea, but how much riz did he have?
Speaker 2: Not enough?
Speaker 1: Clearly and uh thinking him to go along with it.
Speaker 2: His first marriage ended in divorce in nineteen twenty two,
which was extremely rare at the time because his wife.
His wife got granted a divorce in nineteen twenty two
citing his cruelty. She had enough evidence that he was
cruel to get a divorce in nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 1: So he said, she said, situation that.
Speaker 2: He always wins. Back then. The judge was just like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was in the midst of the feminist movement, the
right to vote. You know, they were getting a lot
of momentum going.
Speaker 2: You weren't getting divorces back then. You weren't getting out
of a marriage like that that easy.
Speaker 1: He was an easy target.
Speaker 2: He was smashing her all around the house, beating the
shit out of his wife, threatening to murder. Shoeless Joe
Jackson through the World series. He's in hell and he's
starting at shortstop.
Speaker 1: Dude, He's gonna be really upset with you when you
die and you go to heaven.
Speaker 2: Oh sweetn't go down and he's up there.
Speaker 1: Of course you're you're sweet, little baby baby face.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be floating and he's gonna be up there
and be like, yo, what the fuck? Yeah, I teach
you a lesson.
Speaker 2: I would say, first off, thank you for listening. Means
a lot.
Speaker 1: Well in the afterlife, I feel like you can be anywhere.
Speaker 2: Whoa heavy and everything we or heaven we weren't charging
advertisers enough.
Speaker 1: It's honestly, everything's hell because it's probably the situation in
the dark Night Rises where he turns all the phones
or just the regular dark knight where he turns all
the phones into scanning and into sonar sonar. Yeah, that's
just your everyday life pretty much.
Speaker 2: At third base, we have one of the greatest players
in Major League Baseball history, don't you do it, mister
ty Cob, just because he beat up a man with
no hands.
Speaker 1: And dropped an N word the time or two.
Speaker 2: Well like twenty thousand times probably.
Speaker 1: And he beat that man because he got called the
N word, yeah, which so really he was just beaten down.
Speaker 2: He beat up a disabled man who called him the
N word, and he was. It wasn't that he was
offended at the use of the N word. He was
offended because the man was implying that he was black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Ty Cobb was black, one of the whitest
men I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And ty Cobb being so furious at being accused of being.
Speaker 1: Did he just have like soot on him at specific day.
Speaker 2: Uh No, it wasn't a ned Kelly situation where he
could They couldn't identify him because he he had dirt
on his face and they thought he was an aborigine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The Great Australian Outlaw, which I believe is a Patreon episode.
Uh yeah, it was like last week. So Cobb one
of the greatest players ever hit four hundred multiple times,
still a ton of bases. Don't really need to explain it.
He's Inner Circle all time great top ten player.
Speaker 1: Dropkicked again.
Speaker 2: Go google Ty Cobb's slide home plate and tell me
that man's in heaven.
Speaker 1: Above the cloud.
Speaker 2: Put it up on the on the video for this
because it is a it's it's the credit to him.
It's the funniest baseball picture I've ever seen ever.
Speaker 1: Taken. I'll make a mental note. Yeah, this is one
of the best photos of any sport ever Eddie's.
Speaker 2: It is better than the Wade lebron you know, Dunk,
It's better than I CA can't even think of other
It's better than the Jack Hughes toothless American flag around
is like, it's the best. Ty Cobb extremely racist even
for the day, That's what I That's what I like
to note, Like, obviously everyone was kind of racist back
then or very respect then, but when it's even for
the day.
Speaker 1: We bring up alcoholic for the day, right, because everybody
was an alcoholic, but then righting an alcoholic then, so
if they could, yea, if they can really something, it
means a lot. I had weight to it.
Speaker 2: If someone's if if someone's being like Ty, you need
to calm down on the slurs in nineteen oh eight.
It's a problem.
Speaker 1: He sounds like a problem.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the main thing against him, the main one,
like he was he doesn't have any like he doesn't
have like an axe murder or anything like that. But
he is genuine generally known as a huge fucking asshole.
Not as bad of a teammate as Bearry Bonds, but potentially.
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, just throwing Barry under the bus.
Speaker 2: There, Barry's piece of ship. Barry's going to hell. No
one's ever liked Barry Bond. Sorry you had a fall, guy,
Barry Bonds is a fucking piece of shit.
Speaker 1: He was such a good guy. One of his boys
went to prison for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's it.
Speaker 1: You don't think that's why.
Speaker 2: He was a good guy at writing checks.
Speaker 1: Balco, Dude, would you serve? How much would it take
to serve? Like three to five? There's a number on
Barry's behavior.
Speaker 2: There's a number. There's absolutely a number.
Speaker 1: You know if meals a day, you got a roof
over your head.
Speaker 2: I've got kids. Yeah, you're probably not doing max security.
No oh, go play pick a ball for three to
five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids, you know, they can come.
Speaker 2: See there's a number. There's a fucking number. I'm gonna
get out in good behavior.
Speaker 1: And it's probably not even seven figures. You could probably
pay me.
Speaker 2: Like, it's absolutely seven figures.
Speaker 1: You could probably pay me five hundred. Okay, if I.
Speaker 2: Was single and childless, six six could get it done.
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred grand a year in minimum security prison.
Speaker 2: That's one hundred grand a year.
Speaker 1: We're going, I'm doing better than I would now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I'm going to minimum if I'm single
and childless, two hundred grand a year minimum.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the greatest baseball player to ever.
Speaker 2: Write, knowing sport, knowing, knowing how much money he had.
I'm going I'm like, yeah, dog's just.
Speaker 1: He's gonna cut you off a check at the end too.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to check at the beginning, like.
Speaker 1: A performance bonus.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to check at the beginning that I
can put away.
Speaker 1: Oh, you want to sign him bonus?
Speaker 2: Okay, I want so I can invest it and then
go to jail and just let that money. I'm not
gonna use it.
Speaker 1: You can get that Alan Iverson deal where you get
all the money when you're fifty.
Speaker 2: I don't want that because that money is not growing.
Speaker 1: The Rebounc deal. They were probably hyped to sign that.
They didn't think that Alan Iverson was making it to fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, although I'm sure there's some of the contract
like give it to my of kids.
Speaker 1: It is a state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But but Ty Cobbs in hell for more, just
like general.
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know much about him in his uh
later life Dickatry.
Speaker 2: We just kind of a in.
Speaker 1: Retirement after after baseball.
Speaker 2: What's he do? There's a whole movie about it. Tommy
Lee Jones plays ty Cob, which lets you know the
type of surly.
Speaker 1: Man he was from Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if they're casting Tommy Lee Jones and
not Tom Hanks, you're a type of guy.
Speaker 1: He was investigating aliens. What Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, No, he's certainly he's always Ty Cobb
really got in the UFO. He's a dick. He's a dick.
So you got to have a guy who plays a
good dick and he got nice suits. Yeah. Next up,
This one might be a little controversial, but I have
enough stuff to back it up, all right, Uh outfield.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like dispute Tay Cob.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. Kirby Pucket, Kirby Pucket. Kirby Pucket. And this
is only partially because of the nineteen ninety one World
Series against the aland Brace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to hear you out.
Speaker 2: Pucket's a Hall of Famer, ten time All Star, three
thirteen career average six gold gloves. We'll put him in
the center. Pucket. First off, look, I don't this isn't
the best qualification for Team Hell when you're talking about
professional athletes, but cereal cheater on his wife, Tanya. Tanya
Puckett also alleged that Kirby Pucket physically abused her and
threatened to kill her on multiple occasions. In September two
thousand and two, Puckett was accused of groping a woman
in a restaurant bathroom and was charged with false imprisonment,
fifth degree criminal sexual conduct, and fifth degree assault. Another
woman asked for protection from Pucket and claimed in court
documents that he'd shoved her in his condominium during the
course of their relationship. So just beat up ladies, Ye're
not great? Yeah, yeah, that's hell worthy. And then he
died pretty quick. He died kind of so not a
lot of no no redemption arc there. Yeah, so I
think Kirby Bucket's probably in Hell. Okay, next up, we've
got outfielder Joe Geddion. Uh, he's technically a second basement,
but outfield is actually pretty clean. So he had to
move an athletic infielder to the outfield put him in left.
He played for the Washington Senators, the Yankees, and the
Saint Louis Browns, only a two forty four lifetime hitter.
Speaker 1: Would you find this guy?
Speaker 2: Well, he might be the worst person I read about.
Speaker 1: We already had an AX murder.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I wasn't finished the worst person I read
about involving the Black Sox scandal. Oh, you're gonna hate
this guy.
Speaker 1: You're really fucking going after the Black Sox here, just.
Speaker 2: Two of them. I could have done fucking eight of them.
I'm not gonna do that. Just two of them. And
you're gonna hate this guy, I promised, fix, I wrote,
I put this guy in here in particular because you're
gonna hate him a right, So pretend you're God here
with your set of morals. Okay, So he was. He
didn't play for the White Sox like I said. He
was playing for the Saint Louis Browns, I believe at
the time. But he was. He was boys Risburg.
Speaker 1: So guilty by association. Hell.
Speaker 2: In nineteen nineteen, Risburg tipped off his boy get I
in that the World Series was going to be thrown.
Speaker 1: Sorry, he you know, got inside information and probably placed
a very large wager.
Speaker 2: He shared the tip with a bunch of Saint Louis
friends and gamblers and asked them to place wagers on
his behalf.
Speaker 1: So he's selfless shared the wealth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this inadvertently spread the word of the fix and
gambling circles and may have drawn more people into more
baseball fixing.
Speaker 1: So he's the reason they got caught.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of the reasons they got caught. Risburg
himself is probably the main reason after the series, when
smoke started to come out.
Speaker 1: It's like the fucking dude that placed a bet on
the Alabama LSU baseball game from I think the Cincinnati
Red Stadium yep, and like, huh, that's a really weird
place to bet a large amount of money on a
college baseball game.
Speaker 2: Well, he also told the person who's placing the bet
with Yeah, he literally was like, yeah, I got inside info,
like a couple guys for Alabama aren't starting today, Like
I got the inside tip from the coach.
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't tell that guy I've gone to place anything. No,
just hand over your money and get the ticket, get
the fuck out of there.
Speaker 2: He was bragging.
Speaker 1: That's but Gideon, no mean to be fair, that's a
large part of gambling is to tell people about your bets.
You always tell about your wins, you know, you're not
so vocal about your loss Yes, And if you do
lose and somebody that is completely like a golf tournament
or whatever is completely like nowhere close to your selections,
you just say, well, they were in my models. Yeah,
I just didn't trust it. Yeah, but they were like
the top of my model, so I was tactically right. Yeah.
So that's how you you do this professionally. Never wrung, Yeah,
never own your losses.
Speaker 2: Now, after the series, this is where I think the
hell part comes in. Really after the series and the
smoke started to come out on the on the White
Sox and people were suspicious. Was he a rat? He
ratted to White Sox owner Charles Kamiski, hoping for a reward.
Speaker 1: He ratted.
Speaker 2: For a reward.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he just expected.
Speaker 2: To be paid for ratting on his best friend.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's how you whacked.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He then testified against his boy turncoat after making bets.
He made bets on the White Sox or on the
I should.
Speaker 1: Say, hey, you're automatically out of the friend group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, group Chat, you're deleted bad Friends, bad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely in the uh the all Guy Hell.
Speaker 2: He's in all He's in Guy Hell for sure. But
here's the worst part too, when they did ask him, okay,
you're ratting now and you ratted to try and get
more money after you place the bets out of also greed,
what why'd you bet if you thought it was wrong?
And Gideon said he was like, well, I did bet
on Cincinnati, but I I didn't bet that much because
I felt bad.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen anyway. What they're gonna throw the World Series?
So is it really that bad? If you know big
guy over here, what's his beak?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's who he says, like, well, I didn't
put that much of folt Bud and then rolled over
on his fucking friend. Well, I was blue, by the way,
I want to know, out of the blue, like he
just thought he would get money if he rated out
his friend.
Speaker 1: It just sounds like a congressman now.
Speaker 2: Takes place, Well, they're they're probably going to hell takes
place or takes part in the fixing scheme then out
of greed then to get more money and by the way,
probably had those Saint Louis gamblers that he tipped off
give him money for the tip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's certainly on the all bad hang team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then when he thought he get even more money
because everyone was figuring it out, tried to rat out
his friend or did rat out his friend in the
hope that he would get even more money for ratting
out his friend, and then officially rated on his friend
by testifying.
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah, you agreed. I see nothing wrong with
that logic. Okay, you've convinced.
Speaker 2: Me, last step of the outfield, Baby Ruth.
Speaker 1: What the hell did glutton glutton love the hot dog
and the beer? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 2: Glutton? Just a filthy glutton? Also cheat on his wife constantly?
God forbid, I'm putting bab Ruth on the.
Speaker 1: All home Sorry. He's like the greatest athlete ever.
Speaker 2: If fucking Kevin Spacey from seven was alive during Babe
Ruth's time.
Speaker 1: His wife probably understood he would have to.
Speaker 2: She probably kind of did. He would have tied Babe Ruth.
Speaker 1: Maybe they had an agreement. You have no idea.
Speaker 2: It's an open man. It was. It was what is
it called not consensual, non monogamy, ethical.
Speaker 1: Non monogamical, non monogamy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1: And he's making love to hot dogs over women. Nine
times out of ten, that's true.
Speaker 2: He has taken he has taken the hot dog over
the lady every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I mean Baby Ruth's not laying it down.
His wife doesn't really have to be worried about him
pleasing another woman.
Speaker 2: He's not worried about pleasing another woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean probably an agreed upon the thing.
Speaker 2: He's worried about pleasing himself. He's not worried if she
has a good time.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your angle here against Babe Ruth Glutton?
Also a liar. He's black, also black, also a black man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of things.
Speaker 1: But he had to lie about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, I don't think he was black. But that
is Dan's conspiracy theory that he look at the hair
that he hangs on to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the hair and look at his nose.
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Now look at the photos. Dude, he's a black man.
Speaker 2: He does a giant nose, but he's definitely not black.
Speaker 1: There's so many photos that I see. The more photos
I see a Babe Ruth the more I'm like, that's
a black man.
Speaker 2: I know, I know you lean into it.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. You're like, it's such an
awful thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the greatest baseball player, and I'm just
saying it's not necessarily off numbers or accomplishment, but like
just raw athletic ability from his body power.
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Barry Bonds.
Speaker 1: Barry Bond's better, but Babe Ruth didn't have the body
of Barry Bonds. So what he was able to perform
and get out of his like doughe fat just on
athletic body. That's great, greatest athlete.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, died before. It's just raw talent. Died before
he should have from Gluttney.
Speaker 1: Why he's not in Hell?
Speaker 2: Did he's the devil wanted that man?
Speaker 1: He sounded like a good dude. Otherwise, Yeah, he's probably fine.
It was kind ran out outfielders and you need to
make it a fair matchup. Also that because Team Heavn't
is loaded. Uh at starting pitcher, we'll going Team Heaven.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is the last one for Hell
starting pitcher because We're just gonna run through team Heaven
like there's not I don't need to talk about how
great of a guy. Roberto Clemente was Karl Mays, a
highly effective submarine right hander and starter from nineteen fifteen
to nineteen twenty nine, mostly with the Red Sox, Yankees
and Reds two hundred and seven wins two point nine
to nine career era over three thousand innings. Pitched five
to twenty win seasons, including a league leading twenty seven
in nineteen twenty one with Babe Bruce Yankees. He also
helped the Red Sox win the nineteen eighteen World Series.
Really good player. He also killed a guy in a game.
Speaker 1: Probably sold his soul for that nineteen eighteen World Series.
Speaker 2: Well that was their last one before the Bambino, so
they didn't need to sell the soul, so they would
have needed to sell the soul after they cursed themselves.
Speaker 1: No, he sold his soul. They won the championship and
then never again. I think he did a couple more
World Series, oh with different teams.
Speaker 2: Because he was on the Yankees after that.
Speaker 1: Then he definitely did Yeah, yeah, well he sold the
Red Sox.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he killed a guy in a game on purpose.
Many think, so did he just throw a bot his
head right into his left fucking temple.
Speaker 1: He wasn't wearing a helmet in the no one.
Speaker 2: Was in the batter's box. During a game at the
Polo Grounds, Mays threw a pitch that hit batter Ray
Chapman square in the left temple. The impact was hard,
very hard, fractured Chapman's skull. He collapsed and he was
He was carried off the field mumbling I'm alright to
May's not to worry, and then he died twelve hours
later in the home day.
Speaker 1: That sounds like Billy Mays.
Speaker 2: What I'm all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Billy Mays died because he hit his
head getting off an airplane.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think he did.
Speaker 1: There might have been cocaine involved, but well there was
Billy Mays here. Yeah. I think he was getting out
of a plane, just banged his head against the top
where the lights are and everything, and I think he
gave himself a concussion and went to sleep and never
woke up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll do it.
Speaker 1: But also maybe cocaine in his system.
Speaker 2: That would in surprise me. Yeah, so a lot of
people think this was on purpose. He was known before
this already as a headhunter.
Speaker 1: I like it, though, the sport needs it, soft sport.
Now you can't go out of guy's head. He have helmets.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, you can still fuck a guy up, hitting
him in the head.
Speaker 1: Just put it in his ribs.
Speaker 2: A lot of dudes get in the face and shit, it's.
Speaker 1: Expected to put it in their ribs or in their ass.
You gotta make them think about it.
Speaker 2: I don't care about putting in the ribs. That's fine.
Faces A lot head is it's another story. Yeah, he
was known as ahead hunter. He led the league and
hit batters. Uh. I think a couple of times. Uh,
definitely once for sure. And even ty Cobb thought he
was a piece of shit.
Speaker 1: It's a point for him, though Ty Cobb disagrees with you.
Speaker 2: No, ty Cob was like, he's too dirty, he plays
too dirty.
Speaker 1: That's probably how you think about Chase Attley.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I love Chase at Yeah, I've heard you say, you're like, dude,
Chase Outley's dirty's player in the league.
Speaker 2: Never thought it was Manny Machada. Fuck Manny Machado.
Speaker 1: So you're putting him in hell simply because he's a
dirty player.
Speaker 2: No, I think he. I think he recklessly killed a guy.
Speaker 1: Well, what did the guy do to him?
Speaker 2: Stepped into the batter's box?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. There had to be a story there, There wasn't.
He just didn't like the cut of his jib.
Speaker 2: No, he was just like, it's like a drunk driver
killing someone.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you uh, drunk drive, do UI? That's hell?
Speaker 2: No, if you kill someone, maybe, especially if you don't
feel bad or show any remorse or try to make
up for it in any way, which he didn't at all.
Didn't give a single fuck that he killed him.
Speaker 1: Didn't take care of like the widow, and the kid.
Speaker 2: Didn't do anything. He was known as the most hated
man in baseball after that game. Showed showed little, if
any remorse publicly.
Speaker 1: He was just autistic.
Speaker 2: And publicly refused to accept any personal So all autists.
Speaker 1: Are in hell now. Okay, it's kind of fucked up
for you to say.
Speaker 2: What would be the way to say? Neuro diversion, but
like sole diversent, spiritually divergent.
Speaker 1: Did he have red hair?
Speaker 2: Who knows? I'm not gonna get a I'm not gonna
get a color photo of him. Now I guess he
died in nineteen seventy one, but like Freckles, Yeah, but yeah,
he killed a guy on the field, didn't seem to
care and with no and it like played extremely dangerously
up to that point, knowing that he could seriously injure
or I guess apparently kill someone.
Speaker 1: It's kind of on the sport.
Speaker 2: He got a body, so after didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1: He got his stay side. Did they change the rules
of baseball for helmets.
Speaker 2: Uh. They started instituting helmets after him. Yeah, but it
wasn't directly like League wind No, I mean you could.
They started like figuring out, like maybe we should put
helmets on these people.
Speaker 1: So you're considered a pussy if you were home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kind of you're a bitch, kind of like
in the NHL back in.
Speaker 1: The day with like the visors.
Speaker 2: Well first just a helmet at all. Yeah, and then
they were like no helmets, but certain people are grandfather
Did I remember when I was a kid, the.
Speaker 1: More in college everybody's got a cage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember when I was a kid, the
Blues had a grandfathered player who didn't have to wear
a helmet. And then now I think they have to
wear helmets and advisors. Yeah, soon it'll be a cage,
I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I like the old cool goalie hockey, like Jason boardhe's mass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the offered much protection, But I
just don't think goalies actually get hit in the face
that much.
Speaker 1: Probably more now they have more flexibility than get down lower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, getting that butterfly. They're all doing yoga and pilates.
Speaker 1: And shit, all psycho paths you gotta be to be
a goalie. Lacross goalies are especially psychos.
Speaker 2: They didn't even have that much.
Speaker 1: I don't have any pads except you know, the helmet
and the chest protector.
Speaker 2: And a cup I assume, Yeah, you gotta have a cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking a really hard rubber ball off the leg.
It's gonna eventually hitching the yards.
Speaker 2: At probably what like one ten.
Speaker 1: Help as you can whip a lacrosse bail, Yeah, you
can over a hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2: Easily, for sure, at a certain level.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I can't. I sucked, but that was a bad lacrosse.
Speaker 2: I think by the time you get to college, it's
it's hitting one hundred plus. Yeah, but that is the
All Hell Team.
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's hear their competition.
Speaker 2: Next up, we got the All Heaven Team. We'll kind
of run through this a little.
Speaker 1: Quicker because because they're not interesting to talk about.
Speaker 2: Nope, at Catcher, we got Yogi Bearra Okay, just a
sweetheart of a man.
Speaker 1: He was a Yankee though, Yeah, docking them points.
Speaker 2: Okay, just the sweetheart of a guy, one of the
most beloved figures in baseball history. That guy's in heaven
Saint Louis Is because he had.
Speaker 1: A cartoon named after him.
Speaker 2: Doesn't hurt, doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1: I also don't know enough about his personal life to
dispute this.
Speaker 2: He was just a nice guy, that's all. It was
just a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: I gotta just go right now, like check you live.
Go to their individual wikipedias and be like controversy, controversy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get that with Yogi,
except for like within baseball, like tell.
Speaker 1: Us in the comments if everything fucked up about the
All Heaven teams.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fun at first. I don't care what he
did in his life. He suffered enough on earth to
make it to heaven.
Speaker 1: Lou Garrett, Yeah, he's a unit.
Speaker 2: That man's in heaven.
Speaker 1: All right, they're stacked already. Lou was the man. I mean,
it's just the Yankees, You're you're just doing the twenties.
Speaker 2: I think that was the last Yankee. I'm pretty sure
the last Yankee dude.
Speaker 1: Lou Garry though, just us Bess and then go back
and look at photos of Louke.
Speaker 2: Garrett shirtless, go to Google shirtless lu Garrett.
Speaker 1: The fact that he suffered that as his fate, it's
just truly, truly horrible.
Speaker 2: It's tragic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is Greek tragedy because he was a
Greek god.
Speaker 2: I wrote a joke in an exec board script one
time that didn't get used where it was like, uh,
the fraternity was raising money to uh defeat lou Geregg's disease,
and they didn't understand what it was about, so they
burned lou garreg in effigy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, all well, remember Luke Gregg four now
is dumping buckets of ice water on people's heads.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also he had I don't want to call it
a LS, it's Luke Aris's. It's Luke Gregg's disease.
Speaker 1: Honor the man yes, it was around before him, right, Yeah, yeah, certainly.
Speaker 2: He didn't invent it, but I'm calling it Luke Grig's disease.
But that they thought he invented Lukeris and so they
burned him in effigy at the at the at the philanthropy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the worst way to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think of it. Yeah, it's about as
bad as it goes.
Speaker 1: Luke Greg's disease parlayed with like dementia.
Speaker 2: I don't think he I think it was too fast
for him to even know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that would be the worst.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. At second base, Charlie Garringer just a sweet,
humble guy. Who is it, I don't know, but he was.
He was known, he was a good player and just
known as like one of the like nicest guys in baseball.
Speaker 1: Google nicest guys in baseball history.
Speaker 2: I did did my research on this, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: And that's what like the AI spit out.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't even AI. I was fucking finding articles
and all this kind of bullshit. A shortstop another loaded
person here, Honus Wagner. I'm familiar with him to one
of the greatest players in baseball history, early baseball though,
this is kind of like ty cob Era, But Honus
Wagner was one of the greatest hitters of all time. Famously,
he pulled his own baseball card from cigarette packs, which
they were sold in at the time because he didn't
want kids to smoke.
Speaker 1: What a good guy. Yeah, sorry, he hates big tobacco
in American businesses. Sounds like a commedyuh.
Speaker 2: And teammates and opponents called him the most decent and
humble superstar of the dead ball era. Just a good dude,
all right, Just a good dude. So with team having
two I had to wait, like, were there better human
beings than Honus Wagner who played shortstop? Probably? Were they
also as good as Honus Wagner?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, So if they're in heaven, I'm not putting I'm
not putting your morality above his statistics if you're both
in heaven.
Speaker 1: Even though you should. Yeah, it should be a nice
little balance.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I could have found like a two year
player from the nineteen twenties that left and joined the mob.
I bet you could have lit a bus on fire.
Speaker 1: You could not have.
Speaker 2: But there's at some point we need we need hitters,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Numbers have to matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, numbers have to matter here. Uh, third base Brooks
Robinson of the Orioles, the greatest defensive third basement of
all time. According to you, most people believe that although
Machado is making a case, but he'll be on team
hell so. Uh just bad dude.
Speaker 1: What's your beef of Machado? Just bad dude, because he's like,
you know, spank to you guys a little bit here
and there. He never really has.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's beaten us before, but not. I wasn't
never like Machado. I mostly watch them as a baseball fan,
like Dick Okay, either way, Brooks Robinson always known as
exceptionally kind and humble, always signing autographs, being a nice guy.
Regarded by baseball riders and players as one of the
classiest guys to ever play the game. Blah blah blah,
great player in heaven. Uh in the outfield got Roberto Clemente,
who the who died in a plane crash trying to
deliver humanitarian relief to Nicaragua.
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? We sure he wasn't a
part of Iran Contra?
Speaker 2: Who could say I guess I think that was around
the time.
Speaker 1: Ye providing weapons to the rebels.
Speaker 2: If those files ever come out, I'll update the team, okay,
but until they do. As far as I'm as far
as I know, he's in heaven. The Best Human Being
in Baseball Award is named after him, so he's there
also in the outfield.
Speaker 1: That makes me want to strike him down even more.
All Right, I needed to find the I need to dig.
Speaker 2: Dig into it, just like Hey, chat GPT, tell me
everything that connects Roberto Clemente. I, oh no, dude, it's
right there.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, this whole time is hiding the plane side.
Speaker 2: Hey, I found it immediately. Next up we got stand usual,
one of the greatest hitters of all time. Inner Circle guy.
Not much to say again, really good human being, A
devout Catholic.
Speaker 1: H That's why. That's the only reason he made the team.
Speaker 2: It's good enough reason. Well, that and that he's one
of the greatest hitters of all time.
Speaker 1: See the glare and lack of Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to put him in hell. Can't put
him in hell.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Just like he wanted to have a
good time. So what.
Speaker 2: They were better? There? Were enough people, people who were
morally better and also as good numbers.
Speaker 1: Wise, nicky man, it's fucking Mickey.
Speaker 2: And actually, here's why I won't put him on team
Heaven wasted his talent, which he himself even said that
he was so selfish and obsessed with fame and women
and boozing that he did not get the most out
of what might be the most talented person to ever
play baseball. Along with like Otanian Bonds.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a good Heaven wasting your talent being
with a lot of women and drinking. Sorry, he likes
a good time.
Speaker 2: Not putting in there. Stan got everything out of it,
Roberto got everything out of it, better human beings, and then,
last but not least in the outfield, another extremely good
human being who is one of the greatest baseball players
of all time.
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
Speaker 2: What do you think I'm gonna say?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't let her brave? Yeah, you
gotta throw your fucking boys on.
Speaker 2: Who do you think I'm gonna say?
Speaker 1: Um, just go, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hank Aaron Okay, you got something to say about Hank.
Speaker 1: Aaron Hammer and Hank No, No, he's mostly a good dude. Yeah,
everything I've read about him.
Speaker 2: Like just great guy, all around, mentored young players all
the time, went through hell when he was breaking the
home run record.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out something shitty about him.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Family, It's not like a Caesar Chavez situation.
Speaker 2: Oh man, we need we need to do a Caesar
Chaves episode. Yeah asap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to rename that street here in Austin. Boy,
holy fuck, no good, no, plain bad dude.
Speaker 2: That guy it's on the all Hell farm team.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the stasts to make it. He's playing
single a ball right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then starting pitcher another again, very upstanding
man and Hall of Famer Bob Feller. Sure right, it's
the Heaven team. Not now, let's talk about who's winning.
Speaker 1: Team Heaven. I think so they've gone on their side.
They have angels in the outfield.
Speaker 2: Literally, I think they're you know, well, you know, was
Venezuela better than Team USA?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a better team.
Speaker 2: More motivated team, not a better team more motivated.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, there's a better team. It's
a better team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who's gonna come in to this game? Who's
gonna have a chip on their shoulder, and they've got
some they've got some hitters.
Speaker 1: Man too much conflict.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that, but here look at it, like, listen.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna lead the team. First off, there's a bunch
of player managers that are gonna butt head.
Speaker 2: I think cap Anson probably. Now the problem is, well
cap Anson refused to play. You have schizophrenic with Hank
Aaron and Roberto Clemente on the field, Will cap Anson
even take the field?
Speaker 1: Take the fields? They're gonna be a player short. Meanwhile, also,
a guy is seeing hallucinations as he's trying to play.
Speaker 2: I think cap Anson walks onto the field, sees Clemente
and Aaron and is like, oh, I guess we're still
in hell.
Speaker 1: Pete might throw his own team under the bus because
he made a couple side wagers on Team Heaven.
Speaker 2: Pete bet on himself. Now you gotta wonder about Swede
Swede Risburg.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean there's plenty of yeah, degenerate gamblers that
are gonna throw games.
Speaker 2: And U and Joe Gedion, Who's gonna then go to
God and be like, Hey, we threw the game. Can
I be in Heaven.
Speaker 1: Now Heaven by like twelve runs.
Speaker 2: Heaven does have a distinct starting pitcher advantage.
Speaker 1: Also, the fucking power you got Hammer and Hank alone.
Speaker 2: Got Babe Ruth on Team Hell is Hank sail.
Speaker 1: Your home run king?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely get one, did it clean? Team Hell has
a lot of great hitters, Kirby Pucket, great hitter Babe Ruth.
Obviously h Ty Cod.
Speaker 1: Can put Babe Ruth on him to make it more even.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's in Hell, Pete Rose.
Speaker 1: I forgot you did it too. He should not be
in Hell, cap Cap. There's no reason Baby Ruth should
be in Hell.
Speaker 2: Like pet Baby Ruth in Hell. What do you just
need to accept it?
Speaker 1: He showed up in the sandlot as like a guidance ghost.
A guy from Hell is not doing that.
Speaker 2: He escaped from hell, stole something from the child, smoked
in a child's bedroom.
Speaker 1: We should just give him life lessons. M A man
from Hell is not going to do that, Babe Ruth
very much, at least in purgatory.
Speaker 2: I think he's now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have it out for him. I don't know
why I.
Speaker 2: Love Babe Ruth. Is I love Babe Ruth. He's a
hell because the man liked to eat glutton.
Speaker 1: You're fat Shaman, now glutton? All right? He needed all
the energy?
Speaker 2: Could you needed that protein? He also like, wasn't that fat?
Which is actually go.
Speaker 1: To I know he's like George Costanza fat.
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth weight two hundred and fifteen pounds, weigh.
Speaker 1: As much as Babe Ruth.
Speaker 2: Wait what was his height? I think he was pretty
tall too.
Speaker 1: I'm six foot and I weigh two fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was six two six two two fifteen Babe
Ruth with the same fat.
Speaker 1: Damn, I gotta lose some LB's.
Speaker 2: Uh. All right, Well that's all I got for today.
You got Team Heaven. I think te have probably takes.
I think Bob Feller kind of tips it. I think
the lineups are more even even than you think.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are, just because I forgot Babe Ruth was
on Hell for some reason, because I would not imagine
Babe Ruth ever in Hell. But I I think there's
too much conflict on Hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong. Catcher situation A loans me a nightmare?
Speaker 1: Who's their manager? Satan from South Park?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't do managers.
Speaker 1: I should have him and said dom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Team Heaven is any number of sweet managers.
Speaker 1: I don't know we're going to run out the line up.
Burber's gonna be third? Or who's it all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know who Heaven's made. We'll
just say Jesus. Jesus is a vanaging team.
Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know if he knows ball though. That's
the problem, buddy.
Speaker 2: Anyone can write that lineup.
Speaker 1: You're right, can't fuck that up. We thought that with
the US team against fantas kids.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying here.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 2: It's not a given. Now here's the last one? Should
they play one or seven?
Speaker 1: It's seven games series? Okay?
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, I agree, real baseball, proper baseball. This
isn't March madness.
Speaker 2: I agree. All right. That's all I got for today. Yeah,
on the all Heaven Versus All Hell team, and.
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it's March Madness too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well it's gonna be a loaded sports show, a long,
long show.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Also two shows like this on the lower tier and
the higher tier you get it too that are just
like this history related that drop Wednesday and Friday. Check
it out Patreon dot com, saf Software History. Tell your
friends about it. Gift your friends the gift of Patreon.
Hell yeah, get them in, get him in the door.
Speaker 2: Give a gift for good birthday gift, probably a horrible
Mother's Day gift, but do it anyway.
Speaker 1: With your mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or your wife.
Speaker 1: We really need to get the female listenership up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you give to your wife?
Speaker 1: Also, subscribe to the YouTube we reveal on Apple and
Spotify five stars, please and thank you. And if we
get a couple of reviews on Apple that are worth reading,
we'll do that. If we get enough, yep, so we'll
do that next week's the week after whenever they come.
Speaker 2: Yep, sounds good.
Speaker 1: So fur Fox, I'm Damna Jester. You just got saw
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