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Speaker 1: You. I'm now listening to soft core History.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Welcome back to soft core History. I

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am your host for the week, Rob Fox, joined as

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always by Dan Rejester.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to be with you. Rob at my apartment.

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Speaker 2: It's my home away from home.

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Speaker 1: Feel lucky this week, Yeah, feel lucky this week.

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Speaker 2: You got a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Last night I had to confront some crackheads. Oh yeah, yeah,

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in your parking lot. Yeah. So I got back from

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the movies at about one o'clock at night. Saw a

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car that clearly did not belong here.

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Speaker 2: With a very classic stuff you but go on.

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Speaker 1: Cracked windshield, beat up car, woman sleeping in it, look

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without teeth.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, so you gotta take a nap.

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Speaker 1: And uh. Turns out her boyfriend was going around just

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breaking into the cars.

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Speaker 2: Just seeing what was open or smashing.

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Speaker 1: Uh, just seeing what was up and yeah, pulling handles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it confronted him, chased them off. He left good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he doesn't want to you know, he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't want that smoke.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like a it's like a raccoon, right, m

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If you if you catch it digging in your trash

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and yell at it'll leave unless it's rabbit and he

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wasn't rabbit. The rabbit. The human rabidity is he was

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on PCP and he wasn't on PCP.

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Speaker 1: I've done it before though, and they usually have a

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gun on them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you do that? Then just call the cops.

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Speaker 1: No, dude, hand around business, all right, because you don't

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have a gun. Not a knife.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we can't bring gonna have to a gunfight. Everybody

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knows this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been playing enough Red Dead Redemption. I

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could throw the knife right, throw his skull.

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Speaker 2: I wish you were Italian so I could uh use

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the line from Untouchables like a typical Diego. I think

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he calls him Madego. He uses some Italian slur.

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Speaker 1: The Mick doesn't really use a knife too often, I

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don't know. No, Well, unless they're like pruning the flowers

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the florist in.

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Speaker 2: The town, or or it's a matter of honor for

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Amsterdam in gangs in New York, and you know he

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has to use knives, good boy. Yeah, so sometimes yeah,

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but yeah, I like.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's a wound. That's a wound. I like, that's

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a kill.

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Speaker 2: Brendan Gleason's fucking Chilely Club. He just notches in gangs

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in New York. Big grdhead dude. Yeah, anyway, we got

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a fun one today.

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Speaker 1: They're always fun. They're always fun when I'm with my

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best friend.

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Speaker 2: I like this one because it's both topical and evergreen?

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Speaker 1: Are you just gonna plow through that? Okay? I don't

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make it like your top five list? If this was

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my space, would I be in the top eight?

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Speaker 2: You're one of like four adults I see regularly this point.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but are you gonna be one of those

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lamb adults that say their kids are their best friends.

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You don't know your kids yet?

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Speaker 2: Fuck No, they stink, even if they're rad like.

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Speaker 1: They actually smell, I don't. I don't have any opinion

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on their personalities yet because they haven't developed.

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Speaker 2: Think they don't smell, I mean the same he shits

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the pants still. But yeah, the other two are fine.

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Speaker 1: Finn occasionally, he's not fully trained yet.

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Speaker 2: No, he's plays fully potty trained. I mean he will

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from time to time lose sight of things.

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Speaker 1: Listen, guys, our age. We get one a year. You're

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allowed to poop your pants and it's totally excused.

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Speaker 2: Of Fin's probably on one in twenty twenty six, he

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uses up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah he gets a couple more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he gets a few mullions being a three year old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, breakfast balls.

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Speaker 2: But no, So I actually said I was gonna do

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this episode a while ago. I can't remem if I

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said on the Patreon of the main because I can't

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remember where that episode.

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Speaker 1: We don't remember anything we say on the show.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, at Blackout, I'm Will Ferrell debating in

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old school. I'm just like those shows over and I'm like, oh,

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what happened? Like if someone tried to cancel me for

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what I said on this Not that would ever happen,

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but I would. I would literally just be like, I

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don't we could only dream. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we get canceled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get to that level. But I'd

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be like, dude, I don't know what I'm saying. Shouldn't listen.

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Speaker 1: We're not important enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm here, I'm not even trying to do

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like the John Stewart like, well, I'm just a coomedia.

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It's just like I literally when you have to talk

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this much, like, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just we're gonna have some bad takes bad takes.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know that I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stumble over my words. I'm gonna mispronounce things.

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I'm gonna get things wrong all the time.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's soft core. His that's really our greatest

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shield softcore history.

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Speaker 1: Also maybe our biggest uh barrier to entry. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the porno pun might be a hard ceiling uh.

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Speaker 1: To play on Dan Carling.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah hard. He started with the porno term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not me, He's simply our stepfather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is an apt way to put it for

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the porno metaphors. Anyway, it is opening day of Major

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League Baseball this week, Yeah, it is, so today we're

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doing an episode I promised previously the all Heaven and

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All Hell Baseball teams, and who would win.

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Speaker 1: Like guys that are certainly in hell? Yeah, like Ty Cobb.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what he was really sway.

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Speaker 2: At the end, we're gonna assume he wasn't. Okay, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: How can we justify somebody going to heaven though we

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don't know some of these dirt bags.

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Speaker 2: Na, all the guys I picked are pretty, they're sweethearts. Okay,

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Like I mean, like Roberto clin impeachable, Roberto Clemente is

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in heaven, stand mutual's in heaven.

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Speaker 1: Clemente is dead? What I'm kidding?

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Speaker 2: Like they named the award for like best human being

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in baseball every year after Roberto Clemente.

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Speaker 1: Like, I know nothing about cy Young except that he

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pitched all the time.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he didn't have enough smoke to me to decide

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on an afterlife. This is like a These are like definitive.

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Speaker 1: Do we have an all purgatory team? I should have?

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I should have?

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Speaker 2: Well, save that for later. This was like fairly intensive

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finding some of that at the hell where this is

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with the Jewish players? They

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don't believe in an afterlife.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any Jewish players on this list. Also,

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Sandy Kofax is still alive. I don't know which dead

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Jewish So this is one of the rules. They have

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to be dead. They have to be in heaven or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either looking down or up?

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Speaker 2: Yes now, I will say.

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Speaker 1: And Sandy Kofax is the only Jewish player I really know.

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Speaker 2: Right and he's alive for now.

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Speaker 1: For now, he's close, be kind of morbid if he

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just passes in the next you know, two hours before

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we put the show out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We also have a Sean Green of the Dodgers,

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who famously hit four homers in a game one time,

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be qualified in the afterlife for playing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So but what about kind of those rare situations

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like a Ted Williams who froze his head. We don't

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know where his soul is.

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Speaker 2: Well, he didn't make the list, okay, because look he

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Ted Williams is an interesting case because Ted Williams famously

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a dick. Yes, like a dick, but just surly right.

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Speaker 1: So that count? I don't know, I don't count any

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the eyes of God. Does that matter if you're killing

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the enemy of a.

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Speaker 2: War, Well, it matters, I guess, depending on the war,

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like if you're if you're some like Mongolian raping and

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pillaging some Viking.

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Speaker 1: But he's definitely in hell because he cheated death. He

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froze himself.

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Speaker 2: Well if his brain function is frozen in time, then

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his soul is tethered to here. Okay, but he didn't

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make the list either way, gotcha. But he is he

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is a purgatory team. He might be the purgatory team captain.

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Speaker 1: He is, he's the coach, yeah, player captain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just have heaven and health funck Yeah,

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he's on team Purgatory for sure. We have Heaven and Hell. Today,

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we're mostoly gonna focus on Hell because heaven's not that

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fun Like he's just like, yeah, he's a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm also gonna debate whether or not they weren't.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, and we can.

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Speaker 1: I might know some little nuggets that point against their

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case for Heaven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well I had to keep Tony Gwynn off of

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Speaker 1: Because you just hate Tonywin.

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Speaker 2: I think probably, Uh, we have to.

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Speaker 1: Address that's the elephant in the room when it comes

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to this specific podcast. Why do you hate Tony Gwinn

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Speaker 2: The old slap and wattle.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you like to hit for average slapping wattle

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got on base.

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Speaker 2: I just can't. I'm not totally certain that a glutton

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like Tony Gwynn made it to heaven.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're a bad dude. You're just a bad guy.

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Imagine if his son hears this, that could easily get

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Speaker 2: I could easily get to him. I mean technically, is.

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Speaker 1: He still in the league. No, no, No, I didn't

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know if he was floating around as like a utility guy.

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Speaker 2: No, he was. He was in the league like twenty

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years ago.

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Speaker 1: Also, I think Tony gwyn Junior. Yeah, really, like it

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couldn't have been there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe like sixteen years ago, like twenty ten. Basically, yeah,

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he's he's born. He was Tony when Junior was born

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in nineteen eighty two, So he would be a miracle

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if he was still playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no real concept of how old Tony

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Gwynn was when he died.

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Speaker 2: He was young. He died young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I don't know how long ago that was.

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It's been a while. Time's just passed me by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It could have been five days

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ago for all I know. But so yeah, again, they

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have to be dead. So there's no Wander Franco or

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Barry Bonds on the team. Hell list both of them

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will make it eventually.

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Speaker 1: But what about guys that almost died, like Big Poppy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's Team Heaving and he's just too jovial

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to go to hell.

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Speaker 1: He definitely was on the Royds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was choosing. I didn't really use I didn't

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really put any steroids. People all the stairs we were alive,

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except for like Ken Cammanitty, But I don't think Ken kammanity.

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He would be on Team Purgatory if anything.

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Speaker 1: Big Poppy, though, also banged a drug dealer's wife. That's

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why he got shot shot.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was saving her from that life.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Probably not, But is it really adultery if

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you're doing it to a bad guy's wife.

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Speaker 2: If it's not your fault, not your problem. I mean,

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I guess if you knowingly do it, which he probably

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did knowingly do it.

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Speaker 1: But but I'm pretty sure he like briefly died with

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the amount of bloody lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the best ability is availability, and he's not available.

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He's not available for Team Heaven.

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Speaker 1: No, he's available for TV yeah, but not for Team

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Heavy Yeah yeah, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's get into the all Hell team

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of Major League Baseball players we're starting with the man

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we covered the catcher, Marty Bergen of the Boston Bean Eaters.

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If you're wondering why he's in hell, I highly recommend

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listening to the full episode. But the long and short

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of it.

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Speaker 1: Is that's on Paton patron dot com, sast soft garestory.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think you think you're right. Patroon comes,

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We'll go into his whole backstory. He was. First off,

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he was insane, and that insanity climax in nineteen hundred

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when he murders suicided his family, Yeah, with an axe,

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including his two small children and his wife. These first

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ballot all hell oh yeah, unlike for the Hall of Fame,

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in which he did receive votes but did not make

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it in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be weird. It's like putting Chris Bmwo on

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the WWF Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: It is funny to me that, like, I think Kurt

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Shilling received votes, but they're trying to keep They kept

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Kurt Shilling out.

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Speaker 1: He kept Kurt Shilling out because he's a dick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for his memory, he deserves to be in.

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Speaker 1: He's because he had a failed video game company.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, no, it's because he posts like fucked up

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memes essentially, and and he was I think he was

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also this this will sink you to uh jerk to

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the media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be mean to those nerds.

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Speaker 2: Nope, they hold you out, hold a grudge, they really do,

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and they're all too happy to do it. Kurt, who

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who he is as a human being?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that all little valve though? With all

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the older sports writers dying off like Bob Ryan's will

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get worse. Do you think so?

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Speaker 2: The younger sports writers are way more of a character

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clause types.

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Speaker 1: M so, because it's already in place. They want to

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live up to that kind of stigma.

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Speaker 2: Now they'll use the character clause to make people adhere

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to their coastal sensibilities.

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Speaker 1: Essentially their political beliefs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more or less. What about the write guys, though,

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they'll be cool with them, they'll be better with them, gotcha.

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But if you went out and were like, I want

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Donald Trump to be president, there, it's gonna cross their

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Mind's gonna cross their mind.

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Speaker 1: That's not more baseball players than you would have. Yeah,

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it's a lot, though you're eliminated in half.

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Speaker 2: Any Yeah, look, that's not a comment on the president.

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One or another. That's not what I'm trying to do here.

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I'm just telling you that I follow enough of them

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on Twitter. That is how they think that is gonna

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come up.

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Speaker 1: Like they're also rich as fuck what most baseball players?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit, So.

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Speaker 1: Oh they want a tax break. They're gonna vote Republican.

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Speaker 2: It's just what they're gonna do. Yeah, Now I think

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that they would, they would at least be like, you know,

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who knows how Mike Trout voted. But Mike Trout doesn't

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talk about anything except clouds.

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Speaker 1: So he loves the weather and he loves the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'll they'll be fine with him because they

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don't know. They might know come home sweep, but he

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didn't talk about it. But yeah, he's.

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Speaker 1: Being wasted away in Anaheim.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the saddest thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: He should be in team hell just for that.

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Speaker 2: Selfish potential selfishness. Yeah, I agree with that. At this point,

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it's on him. It used to not be on him.

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Speaker 1: It's on him now being so selfless you're actually self it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's kind of.

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Speaker 1: The man, the trade guy.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of a thing. Yeah, uh so, Marty Bergan

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killed his whole family with an axe.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 2: And in his defense, like I said, he was fucking insane.

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He was an all defense catcher. Think of like one

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of the other Molina brother like Benji, like all d.

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Speaker 1: No, Bat, They're not gonna like that comparison the Molina

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brothers with this guy. Y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But he did also once in a game miss

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every pitch thrown to him because he thought there was

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a ghost standing next to him trying to stab him. Yeah,

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he was constantly.

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Speaker 1: Now remind me why was he insane? Was it like

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a mercury situation?

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Speaker 2: No, it was just genetic. I think they think he

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had schizophrenia and stuff. That's right, and it might have

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been founded by blows to the head.

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Speaker 1: I don't cte. Yeah, yeah, which cam' skataboo does not

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believe in doctor Cam's Kataboo. Listen, he had to apologize

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for that. Don't do that's cam. No, there's no reason

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to apologize for being yourself.

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Speaker 2: Also, what do you want from a man named cam'

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kataboo from Arizona State? What do you what? Could you

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possibly this is what I want?

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Speaker 1: This is actually what I want from.

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Speaker 2: Candile, actually demand of a man named Cam Skatt.

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Speaker 1: Hard nose running back three yards in a cloud of dust.

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Head first, he's just like he is living proof of CTE. Yeah,

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if anybody would know about ct it's him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got so much ct that he doesn't

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think it exists.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually breaking off on the other side of

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the horseshoe. Yeah, he's actually perfectly fine. Now, Like, at

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a certain point you develop Parkinson's. But if you go

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past that point, totally fine.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get through. It's like it's like running, keep going. Yeah,

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you gotta just keep keep chugging, keep those legs moving.

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But yeah, So Marty Bergen also thought people were trying

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to assassinate him constantly. Okay, he would sit in certain

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ways in the dugout so that he could kind of

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have like a three sixty vision to make sure an

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assassin doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Gotta have your back to a wall, ye.

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Speaker 2: Dick head teammate.

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Speaker 1: I always do that when I go out nowadays, I

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just kind of assess the situation.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta be facing the door. You can't.

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You can't get got by a mass shooter in like

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a Chipotle or something.

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Speaker 1: You can't be a made man well we're not. No,

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so it's fine, but I always get that confused. Made

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man in the Italian mob means you're a higher up,

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but it also means you get assassinated.

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Speaker 2: No, you can't touch a made man. And the reason

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that Joe Peshi was killed in Goodfella is because he

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killed a made man.

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Speaker 1: Right, But I think you, ah, yeah, No, I conflict too.

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What's it mean when you actually whack a dude? Is

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it's just whack?

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Speaker 2: I guess?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, wrong ethnicity.

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Speaker 1: To we need more Italian viewpoints.

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Speaker 2: Get Ronica Becca on here. I don't think she would

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have much insight into it, but maybe it's in her blood.

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Speaker 1: Well, she doesn't believe they're white.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of those guys don't either.

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Speaker 1: Most Italian, like the real Gabagoula, the Sicilians certainly not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they almost have a case to be honest,

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just the way they were treated, Oh, the way they're

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treat but also they were they were conquered by the

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Arabs for a while and then the Normans came in there.

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They're a real melting pot. So right next to North Africa, Yeah,

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that's absolutely melting pot. They might have a case Marty

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Bergen Uh also, I think at least once just like

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slapped the shit out of his teammate because he thought

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he was talking shit. Oh and he got in a

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fight with all of his teammates because after one of

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his children died, he came back to the team and

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they were all like mart like they didn't like him,

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but they were like, Marty, were so sorry, like that's awful,

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We're here for you. And he was basically just like

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Adam Sandler in his audio sketcher or the one It's

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what it's spoofing Carrie's Mom where he's just he was

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just like you all were laughing at me. Yeah, like

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he thought they were all like making fun of him

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because his kid died, which.

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Speaker 1: Was the worst person to be around.

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Speaker 2: Not the case at all, Like they were like, Marty,

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I'm so sorry you were laughing at me.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, maybe had Joe Peshi vibes from Goodfellas

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kind of me.

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Speaker 2: He's a loose cannon.

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Speaker 1: You can't say anything to him.

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Speaker 2: No, you couldn't. You couldn't. He was, and they refused

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to play with him after a while, like they were

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just like, we're not coming back if he's coming back.

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Speaker 1: Bad locker room guy, bad chemistry, Just get him out

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of here.

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Speaker 2: Bad husband and father.

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Speaker 1: Team hell already you know has its issues with the roster.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not a great locker room in team ol

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m uh first up or next up?

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Speaker 1: God forbid to let Terry Francona in there to help

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all the players eat fried chicken and drink beer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll get him going though. That Red Sox

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locker room feels like it was kind of a nightmare.

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A lot of big personalities, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: They fired him for that.

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Speaker 2: They won though, Like do you what do you want?

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Speaker 1: Why did they fire him for fried chicken and beer?

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Speaker 2: I don't know? Then he win him two World Series?

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Speaker 1: Like, fuck off, fuck off?

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Speaker 2: He should have been there for life. At first base,

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we have a bona fide all time great Hall of Famer,

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the great cap Anson.

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Speaker 1: You know this guy unfamiliar with his game. Okay.

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Speaker 2: He was a player manager for the Chicago White Stockings

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for most of his career. Now the White Stockings turns out.

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Speaker 1: No relation to the White Socks. They're the Cubs. They're

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the Cubs, stupid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He led the team to six National League pennants

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from eighteen seventy six to eighteen eighty six, which at

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that time meant you were the champion. Like period, there

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was no World Series, So six championships.

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Speaker 1: Wait during reconstruction.

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Speaker 2: Seventy six to eighty six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just funny to think about baseball back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a line in Deadwood, which takes place in

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that time period where Dan elsewhar Engin's like right hand man.

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They're getting a newspaper and he's like, get get the

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newspapers that report on the baseball games. Got so I

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was like, I want to read about that.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 2: Cap Anson was baseball's arguably its first true superstar. He

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was charismatic, he was influential, and he was a pioneer

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in professionalizing the game. He finished his career with ninety

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one wins above replacement, three thirty three batting average, over

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two thousand RBI, almost two thousand runs, and he was

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the first player in Major League Baseball history to record

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three thousand hits.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he's a trailblazer.

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Speaker 2: An absolute trailblazer. But there was one trail cap Anson

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would not blaze, and that is he was maybe the

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loudest voice at the onset of professional baseball in making

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sure that not a single black man touched the field.

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Speaker 1: Ah well, given the time, there were plenty of people

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who were fine with it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, there were black people playing on certain teams.

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So they were playing the Toledo Bluestockings in eighteen eighty

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three and Anson.

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Speaker 1: They don't acknowledge that Jackie Robinson gets all the love.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he gets all the love for breaking the modern

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color barrier. But there were so the Toledo's catcher, Moses

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Walker was the first the first known black player in

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major leagues.

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Speaker 1: Also, who could forget Babe Ruth.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to him.

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Speaker 1: Babe Ruth black man. Yeah, everyone knows that.

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Speaker 2: He refused to let his team take the field because

473
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Moses Walker was playing catcher for Toledo. Anson repeatedly dropped

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the N bomb on the field and vowed his team

475
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would never play against a black player again.

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Speaker 1: However, so you're gonna forfeit those games?

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Speaker 2: Did? Toledo had an ace in the hole, which is

478
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they were like, Okay, you don't play this fucking game.

479
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We are not sharing the ticket money with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get fucked ye, and you're gonna no call, no show,

481
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no money.

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Speaker 2: Well, they were on the field. He was on the

483
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field dropping n bombs at Walker being like, we're not

484
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playing with this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not going to participate, you get no money.

486
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Speaker 2: Yep. Now he backed down then because they need the money.

487
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Would have been a huge angel hit to the team.

488
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,680
They're glorified hoboes at this point. They are box car

489
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,920
hoboes traveling. What's the thing? What's what is it called?

490
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,920
Like the knapsack on the stick? I forget what it's called.

491
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There's a bendal, a bendle, the bendals on their baseball bat.

492
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Speaker 1: Essentially, it's a baseball bat with the glove hanging off

493
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and then whatever you can fit in your glove besides

494
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the ball. That's all you have. Those are your worldly possessions.

495
00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: However, his stance remained hard fast. In eighteen eighty seven,

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he again was confronted with this.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

498
00:23:29,759 --> 00:23:35,079
Speaker 2: They were playing Newark and Moses Walker found himself on Newark.

499
00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:37,480
At that point, they also had a black pitcher named

500
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George Stovey. So black people were playing in Major League

501
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,519
Baseball at this time. But this time Anson was famous

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00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,799
enough or whatever that he was able to get the

503
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:50,960
black players removed from the lineup. Oh what yeah, the

504
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game went on. They weren't allowed to use their starting

505
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pitcher or their starting catcher.

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Speaker 1: How does he have that kind of influence on the

507
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other team.

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Speaker 2: He's the biggest star in the sport.

509
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: Who cares?

510
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,799
Speaker 2: They cared.

511
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Speaker 1: I guess that's going to affect some gambling tickets. I'd

512
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,400
be upset. Yeah right, yeah, Like, no, any way, my

513
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,240
guy can't play because dude, but.

514
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: Your bookie's like, no, you didn't. You didn't check the

515
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,079
must start box.

516
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,039
Speaker 1: Just that it kind of seems like it there's more

517
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,160
foul play there than just this player.

518
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: This was certainly the wild West of fixed baseball at

519
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,599
this point.

520
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: Certainly, I mean everything at that point was fixed, all

521
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,759
the fights, all the horse racings.

522
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Speaker 2: So this incident is often cited by baseball historians as

523
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,440
the tipping point that emboldened owners to enforce segregation, because

524
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,079
at the time, some of them were like, I don't know, man,

525
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,400
we're not that good. Let's just like find some black

526
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,559
guys who could play and get the edge. And essentially

527
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,039
all the owners were like, if guys like cap Anson

528
00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:57,119
are gonna bitch, it's not worth the trouble really, and

529
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,799
segregation became formal because of cap Anson.

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Speaker 1: He got it on the book.

531
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:08,319
Speaker 2: He got it on the books. He was his star

532
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,079
power and the fact that he was a coach not

533
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,160
just a player, and it became an informal gentleman's agreement

534
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,880
among the owners to just keep black players out of baseball.

535
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,039
Speaker 1: So the original Colin Kaepernick situation that actually happened, right, Yeah,

536
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:25,079
every owner agreed, no no blacks in the sport. Yes,

537
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,599
thanks to cap Anson, kind of just like a wink

538
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:28,079
and a nod.

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00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks to Cap Hansen. Okay, first base for hell,

540
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:33,440
Cap Hansen.

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00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Oh so I'm not saying that about Colin Kaepernick to

542
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,480
be fair, what Like, I don't think there was just

543
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,119
some agreement between owners to not sign him.

544
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,799
Speaker 2: No, they didn't talk to each other.

545
00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: No, I think they just realized he got benched.

546
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,839
Speaker 2: He I don't care, And he was he was good enough.

547
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,480
He was good enough at that point to be a

548
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,400
backup on any team.

549
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: But he wasn't worth a headache.

550
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: He wasn't worth a headache.

551
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,759
Speaker 1: It was like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow was not he

552
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:03,240
was He's perfectly fine to be a backup in the NFL, right.

553
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: But you were gonna have these with the circus that

554
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,359
came with them. No, they didn't have to talk to

555
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,319
each other because they were all like, I mean, football

556
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,680
teams unless unless you're really good. Football teams will not

557
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,359
deal with the headache. Pro sports teams won't deal with

558
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,559
headche unless you are literally a superstar at that point.

559
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,799
Kaepernick wasn't if he was twenty if that was happening

560
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,119
when he led them to the super Bowl, and he

561
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,359
wouldn't miss it a start, wouldn't miss a single start.

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but once you suck at the sport, tutulu, that's

563
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:31,000
all they care about.

564
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 2: It's sort of the dark side of meritocracy, I guess

565
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,720
if you will. Because he he was good enough to

566
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,160
be a backup. But again, so this guy was.

567
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: So good he got all blacks banned from the sport. Yeah,

568
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,680
he was one of the most famous players.

569
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: But I mean he was the most famous player three

570
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,799
thousand hits.

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00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,599
Speaker 1: He was a coach too. Yeah, all right.

572
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,839
Speaker 2: This is according to baseball historians.

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00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: I just financially don't think that's the way to go

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for the owners.

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00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: You think one of them would have been like, no,

576
00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,960
I want to win.

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00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: It could be like the Atlanta Braves now and just

578
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:08,519
paid Dominicans, you know, dirt wages. Just lock them in

579
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:12,960
long term for really low contracts. The scummy Atlanta.

580
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Braves got us a ring, got us a ring.

581
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Covid drink.

582
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.

583
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Players missed games because of COVID. It's a COVID drink.

584
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: At second base, we have a former Philadelphia Philly.

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00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: Well, we are like one of the longest run in

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00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,440
sports franchises. Yeah, in all of sport.

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00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:36,759
Speaker 2: The Phillies weren't his main team though, but he had

588
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,680
a cup of coffee. He finished his career there, I believe.

589
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:41,839
Speaker 1: Okay, second base.

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00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: We're going Pete Rose, the all time Major League Baseball

591
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:48,359
hits leader.

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Speaker 1: Damn, dude, you're gonna do Pete like this? You interviewed him.

593
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,559
Speaker 2: I did, and you're gonna be like you're in hell now, dude. Well,

594
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,200
I do feel that way about guys who had sex

595
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,880
with fifteen year old when they were married, and.

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00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: H I always forget about that. Yeah, it always gets

597
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:04,240
glossed over.

598
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Banged a fifteen year old.

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00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,039
Speaker 1: I always just think of Pete Rose signing Baseball's for

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00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,200
seventy five dollars at card shows.

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00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:14,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people forget about the fifteen year old banging. Yeah,

602
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:16,599
that's not great, to which he said I thought she

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00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,759
was sixteen.

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00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:27,079
Speaker 1: Maybe, to which Catholicism says Mary was twelve. But God

605
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:31,920
doesn't have an age, right, He's timeless, right, so he

606
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,559
could be twelve.

607
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:37,039
Speaker 2: He's outside a statute of limited like a there's no yeah, gotcha,

608
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,519
he can be. He's anything and everything. Can't him, can't

609
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:43,039
pin him down?

610
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:43,839
Speaker 1: Think that charges?

611
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete Rose, though.

612
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,599
Speaker 1: Is this an Oscar winning movie?

613
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:47,119
Speaker 2: What?

614
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: Everything everywhere all at once?

615
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? One best picture?

616
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was fine. I liked it.

617
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,319
Speaker 2: I never saw it. I'm sure I heard it was good,

618
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,599
but I didn't. But so Pete Rose, all time MLB

619
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,039
hits leader gambled on baseball. But I don't hold that

620
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,839
against him.

621
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: For him, sorry, he believed in his team.

622
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do hold it against other people on team Hell,

623
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:15,599
but he's not one of them.

624
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,519
Speaker 1: Dude, we're gonna get so much action on this game.

625
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:25,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Yeah. He also should be noted kind

626
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:29,559
of a he he's not Ty Cobb level of dirty player,

627
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160
but like, he ruined a guy's career in the All

628
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,759
Star Game.

629
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,759
Speaker 1: Sorry, he cared.

630
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,319
Speaker 2: He he trucked Ray Fosse if you have the time,

631
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,920
go YouTube Pete Rose, ray Fosse like shattered all of

632
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,799
his bones from in his shoulders.

633
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: It is the baseball equivalent of Sean Taylor Murder and

634
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,519
the Punter and the Pro Bowl.

635
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just immoral, Like what are you doing? There's

636
00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:01,079
no reason for it now. Pete Rose played a lot

637
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:02,680
of positions, but he did. He came up as a

638
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,839
second baseman and played over six hundred games there. Yeah,

639
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:09,039
and the second base was short on pieces of shit.

640
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some leadership conflicts here though. Multiple managers on.

641
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,319
Speaker 2: The multiple player managers, Yeah, cap Anson and Pete Rose

642
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,319
Rose again.

643
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:19,839
Speaker 1: And then the other guys seeing ghost.

644
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: Well, he's in hell, so he's finally valid.

645
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: He has no idea who's talking to him? Which one

646
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:31,200
is a point of authority, who's in charge? Yeah?

647
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: So Rose he had sex with a girl when she

648
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:36,319
was either fourteen or fifteen years old in nineteen seventy three.

649
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:41,559
Speaker 1: I always forget about that, but I only remember Carl

650
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:42,720
Malone for doing the same.

651
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,079
Speaker 2: Oh if we can do an NBA one later, but

652
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:47,519
he has to die first for sure.

653
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, the only athlete I remember, just

654
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,680
like routinely was hooking up with underage girls, was Karl Malone,

655
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:56,680
and he just kind.

656
00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Of skates, but you know, I don't It probably wasn't

657
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,920
the only time, but I routinely is probably strong. He

658
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,000
did get the like twelve or thirteen year old girl pregnant, yeah,

659
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,160
which isn't great and he should have been in jail

660
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,079
for that, but everyone in the town kept it quiet

661
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:17,119
because they didn't want to ruin his career. By the way,

662
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,799
that child was born and ended up playing in the NFL.

663
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,759
Interestingly enough, I forget his name, but so the girl

664
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,519
was either fourteen or fifteen. In nineteen seventy three, when Rose,

665
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,440
who was about thirty two and married to his first wife,

666
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,079
Carolyn and the father of two young children at the time,

667
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,799
he contacted her. They started having sex. It started before

668
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:49,559
her sixteenth birthday. They also had sex and locations outside Ohio,

669
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,559
which means he was a sex trafficker.

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00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Ah cross state lines.

671
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and his main his only excuse was just

672
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,680
I thought she was sixteen. Now, sixteen was the age

673
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,319
of consent in Ohio at the time. However, man's laws

674
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:12,799
are not heavan's laws. I guess you could say that's

675
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,920
still fucked beyond belief, and the fact that he was

676
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,799
married with two young children, Like she was closer in

677
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,119
age to his children than he was to her. Yeah,

678
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,640
and she was a sophomore in high school, maybe a freshman.

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00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:34,559
Speaker 1: H Yeah. Pete Rose Mosley bad dude.

680
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah. I think he was kind of like a

681
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,880
serial sexual harassmer too, But I didn't put that down.

682
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,119
Speaker 1: Did you bring it up during your interview or no.

683
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,279
Speaker 2: He talked about how they always won All Star Games

684
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:51,880
because they had the black players. That's a direct ass

685
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,759
quote that Pete Rose gave me. He was like, we

686
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:55,480
always won the All Star Games because we played on

687
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,279
AstroTurf and the National League had more of the black players.

688
00:32:58,279 --> 00:32:58,880
We were faster.

689
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,039
Speaker 1: Never meet your hero, those guys. I remember when I

690
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,720
saw Arnold Palmer towards the end of his life when

691
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240
I was working at Golf Channel and he's given a

692
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,319
speech to the entire company and just starts going on

693
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:13,440
a tirade about how Asians are going to take over

694
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,640
the sport. I'm like, I hope they're not filming this

695
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,759
and release it. They're not a good look for the King.

696
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,839
Speaker 2: Didn't happen, Uh, not so much.

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00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: On the men's side, Oh they they've.

698
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,799
Speaker 2: Been controlling the win inside for like twenty years. Yeah, yeah,

699
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,599
that's not nothing new. No real quick, before we keep going,

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Next up, we've got shortstop Swede Risburg.

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Speaker 1: Love the name. Yeah he was sure, I won't love

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the human.

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Speaker 2: Ummm, he's not one of the most egregious on the list.

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Speaker 1: It's like the only thing against him. He has tattoos. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

763
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he's in hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was Jewish and he has tattoos, so couldn't now.

765
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He was one of the ring leaders of the Black

766
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Sox scandal, and despite mostly being a glove first shortstopase.

767
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: Not forbid a white guy get a little motion. Sorry,

768
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000
he wants to fix the World Series. It doesn't mean

769
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he's in hell.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, I'm not done.

771
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Speaker 1: Okay, not done.

772
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: Despite being a glove first shortstop, he was somehow the

773
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,320
guy who muscled people into going along with the World Series.

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Speaker 1: He was breaking bones, he was taking down knees.

775
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:33,119
Speaker 2: He actively pressured holdouts with threats of violence against them

776
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or potentially their families, I think. But most infamously, he

777
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when shoeless Joe Jackson, sweet shoeless Joe, who could barely read,

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she like literally, uh was like, I don't know, I

779
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,159
think this is wrong, y'all. Risburg threatened to murder him.

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Speaker 1: It was just a threat. He didn't do it and.

781
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Speaker 2: He made which made shoeless Joe go along with the plan. Okay,

782
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,800
Shoeless Joe thought it was real. Joe sweets he he

783
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threatened an illiterate man with murder to fix a world series.

784
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Speaker 1: You're just making excuses for shoeless.

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00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: Joe and shoeless Joe then gets tarnished and banned from

786
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baseball for life. He testified all this and then they're like,

787
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
why do you do it? And sheeless Joe goes, this

788
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,280
is just like how sweet and simply was? He just goes,

789
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sweet is a hard guy.

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Speaker 1: Hard motherfucker hard mother for hard doesn't mean you're in hell.

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Speaker 2: He's in hell? Uh, He went Sweet was also one

792
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of the like he was. He was the person that

793
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played so badly that everyone was He was like Immanuel

794
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,079
Classe throwing a pitch twenty feet outside the box because

795
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:54,320
he was a defensive superstar. He had four errors and

796
00:38:54,559 --> 00:39:00,000
eight total miscues defensively across the series. His bad feeling

797
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,559
made everyone be like, there's just no fucking way something's

798
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:09,480
not up. Okay, so he threw the World Series the

799
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hardest of all, after threatening to beat the shit out

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of and murder anyone who didn't go along with it.

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Speaker 1: He had a bad series and he was taking it

802
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,800
out on his teammates.

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Speaker 2: Risberg showed zero remorse for what he did for the

804
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rest of his life.

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00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 1: Yea, but how much riz did he have?

806
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:28,119
Speaker 2: Not enough?

807
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: Clearly and uh thinking him to go along with it.

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00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: His first marriage ended in divorce in nineteen twenty two,

809
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which was extremely rare at the time because his wife.

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His wife got granted a divorce in nineteen twenty two

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citing his cruelty. She had enough evidence that he was

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cruel to get a divorce in nineteen twenty two.

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00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,679
Speaker 1: So he said, she said, situation that.

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00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,079
Speaker 2: He always wins. Back then. The judge was just like,

815
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:03,960
oh my god.

816
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: I was in the midst of the feminist movement, the

817
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,039
right to vote. You know, they were getting a lot

818
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of momentum going.

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Speaker 2: You weren't getting divorces back then. You weren't getting out

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of a marriage like that that easy.

821
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Speaker 1: He was an easy target.

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Speaker 2: He was smashing her all around the house, beating the

823
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shit out of his wife, threatening to murder. Shoeless Joe

824
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Jackson through the World series. He's in hell and he's

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starting at shortstop.

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Speaker 1: Dude, He's gonna be really upset with you when you

827
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die and you go to heaven.

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Speaker 2: Oh sweetn't go down and he's up there.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're you're sweet, little baby baby face.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

831
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,159
Speaker 1: You're gonna be floating and he's gonna be up there

832
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:49,920
and be like, yo, what the fuck? Yeah, I teach

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you a lesson.

834
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Speaker 2: I would say, first off, thank you for listening. Means

835
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a lot.

836
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Speaker 1: Well in the afterlife, I feel like you can be anywhere.

837
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: Whoa heavy and everything we or heaven we weren't charging

838
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,639
advertisers enough.

839
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Speaker 1: It's honestly, everything's hell because it's probably the situation in

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the dark Night Rises where he turns all the phones

841
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or just the regular dark knight where he turns all

842
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the phones into scanning and into sonar sonar. Yeah, that's

843
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960
just your everyday life pretty much.

844
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: At third base, we have one of the greatest players

845
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,440
in Major League Baseball history, don't you do it, mister

846
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:34,599
ty Cob, just because he beat up a man with

847
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:35,559
no hands.

848
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,599
Speaker 1: And dropped an N word the time or two.

849
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: Well like twenty thousand times probably.

850
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: And he beat that man because he got called the

851
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,239
N word, yeah, which so really he was just beaten down.

852
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: He beat up a disabled man who called him the

853
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:52,480
N word, and he was. It wasn't that he was

854
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,039
offended at the use of the N word. He was

855
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,679
offended because the man was implying that he was black.

856
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Ty Cobb was black, one of the whitest

857
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,440
men I've ever seen.

858
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,599
Speaker 2: And ty Cobb being so furious at being accused of being.

859
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: Did he just have like soot on him at specific day.

860
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,039
Speaker 2: Uh No, it wasn't a ned Kelly situation where he

861
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,280
could They couldn't identify him because he he had dirt

862
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,159
on his face and they thought he was an aborigine.

863
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

864
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: The Great Australian Outlaw, which I believe is a Patreon episode.

865
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,760
Uh yeah, it was like last week. So Cobb one

866
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,679
of the greatest players ever hit four hundred multiple times,

867
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,599
still a ton of bases. Don't really need to explain it.

868
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,039
He's Inner Circle all time great top ten player.

869
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: Dropkicked again.

870
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,079
Speaker 2: Go google Ty Cobb's slide home plate and tell me

871
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:39,280
that man's in heaven.

872
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: Above the cloud.

873
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Put it up on the on the video for this

874
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,119
because it is a it's it's the credit to him.

875
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,199
It's the funniest baseball picture I've ever seen ever.

876
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Taken. I'll make a mental note. Yeah, this is one

877
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,440
of the best photos of any sport ever Eddie's.

878
00:42:56,679 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 2: It is better than the Wade lebron you know, Dunk,

879
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,119
It's better than I CA can't even think of other

880
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,079
It's better than the Jack Hughes toothless American flag around

881
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:13,760
is like, it's the best. Ty Cobb extremely racist even

882
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,239
for the day, That's what I That's what I like

883
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,199
to note, Like, obviously everyone was kind of racist back

884
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,400
then or very respect then, but when it's even for

885
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:23,199
the day.

886
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: We bring up alcoholic for the day, right, because everybody

887
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,159
was an alcoholic, but then righting an alcoholic then, so

888
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:31,280
if they could, yea, if they can really something, it

889
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,800
means a lot. I had weight to it.

890
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: If someone's if if someone's being like Ty, you need

891
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,280
to calm down on the slurs in nineteen oh eight.

892
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:40,840
It's a problem.

893
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: He sounds like a problem.

894
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, the main thing against him, the main one,

895
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,760
like he was he doesn't have any like he doesn't

896
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,639
have like an axe murder or anything like that. But

897
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,519
he is genuine generally known as a huge fucking asshole.

898
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,559
Not as bad of a teammate as Bearry Bonds, but potentially.

899
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, just throwing Barry under the bus.

900
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,559
Speaker 2: There, Barry's piece of ship. Barry's going to hell. No

901
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:09,039
one's ever liked Barry Bond. Sorry you had a fall, guy,

902
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,000
Barry Bonds is a fucking piece of shit.

903
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: He was such a good guy. One of his boys

904
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,880
went to prison for him.

905
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:15,119
Speaker 2: I don't think that's it.

906
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: You don't think that's why.

907
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: He was a good guy at writing checks.

908
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Balco, Dude, would you serve? How much would it take

909
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:24,719
to serve? Like three to five? There's a number on

910
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,400
Barry's behavior.

911
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: There's a number. There's absolutely a number.

912
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: You know if meals a day, you got a roof

913
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:30,559
over your head.

914
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: I've got kids. Yeah, you're probably not doing max security.

915
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:35,079
No oh, go play pick a ball for three to

916
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:35,880
five years.

917
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids, you know, they can come.

918
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,199
Speaker 2: See there's a number. There's a fucking number. I'm gonna

919
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:42,960
get out in good behavior.

920
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: And it's probably not even seven figures. You could probably

921
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,360
pay me.

922
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,559
Speaker 2: Like, it's absolutely seven figures.

923
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:52,599
Speaker 1: You could probably pay me five hundred. Okay, if I.

924
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: Was single and childless, six six could get it done.

925
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred grand a year in minimum security prison.

926
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: That's one hundred grand a year.

927
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,119
Speaker 1: We're going, I'm doing better than I would now.

928
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I'm going to minimum if I'm single

929
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440
and childless, two hundred grand a year minimum.

930
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: We're talking about the greatest baseball player to ever.

931
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,519
Speaker 2: Write, knowing sport, knowing, knowing how much money he had.

932
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,599
I'm going I'm like, yeah, dog's just.

933
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,199
Speaker 1: He's gonna cut you off a check at the end too.

934
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to check at the beginning, like.

935
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: A performance bonus.

936
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to check at the beginning that I

937
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000
can put away.

938
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: Oh, you want to sign him bonus?

939
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,119
Speaker 2: Okay, I want so I can invest it and then

940
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:33,119
go to jail and just let that money. I'm not

941
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:33,639
gonna use it.

942
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: You can get that Alan Iverson deal where you get

943
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,440
all the money when you're fifty.

944
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't want that because that money is not growing.

945
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:44,599
Speaker 1: The Rebounc deal. They were probably hyped to sign that.

946
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,400
They didn't think that Alan Iverson was making it to fifty.

947
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, although I'm sure there's some of the contract

948
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,400
like give it to my of kids.

949
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: It is a state.

950
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, But but Ty Cobbs in hell for more, just

951
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,199
like general.

952
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know much about him in his uh

953
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:01,599
later life Dickatry.

954
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: We just kind of a in.

955
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,519
Speaker 1: Retirement after after baseball.

956
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:10,079
Speaker 2: What's he do? There's a whole movie about it. Tommy

957
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,039
Lee Jones plays ty Cob, which lets you know the

958
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:13,000
type of surly.

959
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,639
Speaker 1: Man he was from Tommy Lee Jones.

960
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if they're casting Tommy Lee Jones and

961
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,159
not Tom Hanks, you're a type of guy.

962
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: He was investigating aliens. What Tommy Lee Jones.

963
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, No, he's certainly he's always Ty Cobb

964
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,559
really got in the UFO. He's a dick. He's a dick.

965
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:33,800
So you got to have a guy who plays a

966
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,679
good dick and he got nice suits. Yeah. Next up,

967
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,480
This one might be a little controversial, but I have

968
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,719
enough stuff to back it up, all right, Uh outfield.

969
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like dispute Tay Cob.

970
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. Kirby Pucket, Kirby Pucket. Kirby Pucket. And this

971
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:56,360
is only partially because of the nineteen ninety one World

972
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,480
Series against the aland Brace.

973
00:46:58,519 --> 00:46:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to hear you out.

974
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,559
Speaker 2: Pucket's a Hall of Famer, ten time All Star, three

975
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,599
thirteen career average six gold gloves. We'll put him in

976
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:14,360
the center. Pucket. First off, look, I don't this isn't

977
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,360
the best qualification for Team Hell when you're talking about

978
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,280
professional athletes, but cereal cheater on his wife, Tanya. Tanya

979
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,760
Puckett also alleged that Kirby Pucket physically abused her and

980
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,159
threatened to kill her on multiple occasions. In September two

981
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,440
thousand and two, Puckett was accused of groping a woman

982
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,480
in a restaurant bathroom and was charged with false imprisonment,

983
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:38,800
fifth degree criminal sexual conduct, and fifth degree assault. Another

984
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,320
woman asked for protection from Pucket and claimed in court

985
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,519
documents that he'd shoved her in his condominium during the

986
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:52,920
course of their relationship. So just beat up ladies, Ye're

987
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,800
not great? Yeah, yeah, that's hell worthy. And then he

988
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:02,159
died pretty quick. He died kind of so not a

989
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,880
lot of no no redemption arc there. Yeah, so I

990
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,719
think Kirby Bucket's probably in Hell. Okay, next up, we've

991
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,079
got outfielder Joe Geddion. Uh, he's technically a second basement,

992
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:16,480
but outfield is actually pretty clean. So he had to

993
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,639
move an athletic infielder to the outfield put him in left.

994
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,440
He played for the Washington Senators, the Yankees, and the

995
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,519
Saint Louis Browns, only a two forty four lifetime hitter.

996
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,039
Speaker 1: Would you find this guy?

997
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: Well, he might be the worst person I read about.

998
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,159
Speaker 1: We already had an AX murder.

999
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,559
Speaker 2: Oh no, I wasn't finished the worst person I read

1000
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:45,119
about involving the Black Sox scandal. Oh, you're gonna hate

1001
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:45,480
this guy.

1002
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:50,039
Speaker 1: You're really fucking going after the Black Sox here, just.

1003
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Two of them. I could have done fucking eight of them.

1004
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,599
I'm not gonna do that. Just two of them. And

1005
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:56,440
you're gonna hate this guy, I promised, fix, I wrote,

1006
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,360
I put this guy in here in particular because you're

1007
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:03,800
gonna hate him a right, So pretend you're God here

1008
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:11,800
with your set of morals. Okay, So he was. He

1009
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,800
didn't play for the White Sox like I said. He

1010
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,599
was playing for the Saint Louis Browns, I believe at

1011
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:20,639
the time. But he was. He was boys Risburg.

1012
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,119
Speaker 1: So guilty by association. Hell.

1013
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: In nineteen nineteen, Risburg tipped off his boy get I

1014
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,400
in that the World Series was going to be thrown.

1015
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Sorry, he you know, got inside information and probably placed

1016
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,920
a very large wager.

1017
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,159
Speaker 2: He shared the tip with a bunch of Saint Louis

1018
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,840
friends and gamblers and asked them to place wagers on

1019
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,760
his behalf.

1020
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,199
Speaker 1: So he's selfless shared the wealth.

1021
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this inadvertently spread the word of the fix and

1022
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,599
gambling circles and may have drawn more people into more

1023
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,239
baseball fixing.

1024
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: So he's the reason they got caught.

1025
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of the reasons they got caught. Risburg

1026
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,800
himself is probably the main reason after the series, when

1027
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:04,440
smoke started to come out.

1028
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: It's like the fucking dude that placed a bet on

1029
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,639
the Alabama LSU baseball game from I think the Cincinnati

1030
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:15,280
Red Stadium yep, and like, huh, that's a really weird

1031
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,000
place to bet a large amount of money on a

1032
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:17,800
college baseball game.

1033
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,559
Speaker 2: Well, he also told the person who's placing the bet

1034
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:22,159
with Yeah, he literally was like, yeah, I got inside info,

1035
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,400
like a couple guys for Alabama aren't starting today, Like

1036
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,280
I got the inside tip from the coach.

1037
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,679
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't tell that guy I've gone to place anything. No,

1038
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:32,280
just hand over your money and get the ticket, get

1039
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,079
the fuck out of there.

1040
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,159
Speaker 2: He was bragging.

1041
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: That's but Gideon, no mean to be fair, that's a

1042
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,920
large part of gambling is to tell people about your bets.

1043
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:45,000
You always tell about your wins, you know, you're not

1044
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,920
so vocal about your loss Yes, And if you do

1045
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:53,119
lose and somebody that is completely like a golf tournament

1046
00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:58,360
or whatever is completely like nowhere close to your selections,

1047
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,000
you just say, well, they were in my models. Yeah,

1048
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:03,039
I just didn't trust it. Yeah, but they were like

1049
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,400
the top of my model, so I was tactically right. Yeah.

1050
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,119
So that's how you you do this professionally. Never wrung, Yeah,

1051
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,960
never own your losses.

1052
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: Now, after the series, this is where I think the

1053
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,719
hell part comes in. Really after the series and the

1054
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,639
smoke started to come out on the on the White

1055
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:26,960
Sox and people were suspicious. Was he a rat? He

1056
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:32,159
ratted to White Sox owner Charles Kamiski, hoping for a reward.

1057
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: He ratted.

1058
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,559
Speaker 2: For a reward.

1059
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:39,639
Speaker 1: Okay, so he just expected.

1060
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:42,039
Speaker 2: To be paid for ratting on his best friend.

1061
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's how you whacked.

1062
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:44,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1063
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1064
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:56,559
Speaker 2: He then testified against his boy turncoat after making bets.

1065
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,800
He made bets on the White Sox or on the

1066
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:00,760
I should.

1067
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,079
Speaker 1: Say, hey, you're automatically out of the friend group.

1068
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, group Chat, you're deleted bad Friends, bad guy.

1069
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely in the uh the all Guy Hell.

1070
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:13,639
Speaker 2: He's in all He's in Guy Hell for sure. But

1071
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,679
here's the worst part too, when they did ask him, okay,

1072
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:22,119
you're ratting now and you ratted to try and get

1073
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:26,159
more money after you place the bets out of also greed,

1074
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,599
what why'd you bet if you thought it was wrong?

1075
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,760
And Gideon said he was like, well, I did bet

1076
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,360
on Cincinnati, but I I didn't bet that much because

1077
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,639
I felt bad.

1078
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen anyway. What they're gonna throw the World Series?

1079
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,639
So is it really that bad? If you know big

1080
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:52,760
guy over here, what's his beak?

1081
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's who he says, like, well, I didn't

1082
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,400
put that much of folt Bud and then rolled over

1083
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,840
on his fucking friend. Well, I was blue, by the way,

1084
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,199
I want to know, out of the blue, like he

1085
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,360
just thought he would get money if he rated out

1086
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:05,800
his friend.

1087
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: It just sounds like a congressman now.

1088
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: Takes place, Well, they're they're probably going to hell takes

1089
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,920
place or takes part in the fixing scheme then out

1090
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,400
of greed then to get more money and by the way,

1091
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,639
probably had those Saint Louis gamblers that he tipped off

1092
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,639
give him money for the tip.

1093
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's certainly on the all bad hang team.

1094
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then when he thought he get even more money

1095
00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:32,440
because everyone was figuring it out, tried to rat out

1096
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,760
his friend or did rat out his friend in the

1097
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,239
hope that he would get even more money for ratting

1098
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,360
out his friend, and then officially rated on his friend

1099
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,719
by testifying.

1100
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah, you agreed. I see nothing wrong with

1101
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,719
that logic. Okay, you've convinced.

1102
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: Me, last step of the outfield, Baby Ruth.

1103
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: What the hell did glutton glutton love the hot dog

1104
00:53:58,519 --> 00:53:59,519
and the beer? What's wrong with that?

1105
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:04,199
Speaker 2: Glutton? Just a filthy glutton? Also cheat on his wife constantly?

1106
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,599
God forbid, I'm putting bab Ruth on the.

1107
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:12,519
Speaker 1: All home Sorry. He's like the greatest athlete ever.

1108
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: If fucking Kevin Spacey from seven was alive during Babe

1109
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,239
Ruth's time.

1110
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: His wife probably understood he would have to.

1111
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: She probably kind of did. He would have tied Babe Ruth.

1112
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they had an agreement. You have no idea.

1113
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,159
Speaker 2: It's an open man. It was. It was what is

1114
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:35,840
it called not consensual, non monogamy, ethical.

1115
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Non monogamical, non monogamy.

1116
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.

1117
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: And he's making love to hot dogs over women. Nine

1118
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,239
times out of ten, that's true.

1119
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,199
Speaker 2: He has taken he has taken the hot dog over

1120
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:48,480
the lady every day.

1121
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I mean Baby Ruth's not laying it down.

1122
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:54,039
His wife doesn't really have to be worried about him

1123
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:55,320
pleasing another woman.

1124
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: He's not worried about pleasing another woman.

1125
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean probably an agreed upon the thing.

1126
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:05,039
Speaker 2: He's worried about pleasing himself. He's not worried if she

1127
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:05,880
has a good time.

1128
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: What's your what's your angle here against Babe Ruth Glutton?

1129
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Also a liar. He's black, also black, also a black man.

1130
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of things.

1131
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: But he had to lie about it.

1132
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:25,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, I don't think he was black. But that

1133
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,480
is Dan's conspiracy theory that he look at the hair

1134
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:29,280
that he hangs on to.

1135
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the hair and look at his nose.

1136
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:32,639
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

1137
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: Now look at the photos. Dude, he's a black man.

1138
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: He does a giant nose, but he's definitely not black.

1139
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: There's so many photos that I see. The more photos

1140
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,320
I see a Babe Ruth the more I'm like, that's

1141
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,840
a black man.

1142
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,679
Speaker 2: I know, I know you lean into it.

1143
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:48,039
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. You're like, it's such an

1144
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:48,719
awful thing.

1145
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

1146
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the greatest baseball player, and I'm just

1147
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,639
saying it's not necessarily off numbers or accomplishment, but like

1148
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,000
just raw athletic ability from his body power.

1149
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:04,920
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year while the subscription is active. The goat he is

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he's the greatest bass player whole time until Otani, until

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Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 1: Barry Bond's better, but Babe Ruth didn't have the body

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of Barry Bonds. So what he was able to perform

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and get out of his like doughe fat just on

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athletic body. That's great, greatest athlete.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, died before. It's just raw talent. Died before

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00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,599
he should have from Gluttney.

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00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:44,119
Speaker 1: Why he's not in Hell?

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Speaker 2: Did he's the devil wanted that man?

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,199
Speaker 1: He sounded like a good dude. Otherwise, Yeah, he's probably fine.

1222
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:52,440
It was kind ran out outfielders and you need to

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make it a fair matchup. Also that because Team Heavn't

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00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,119
is loaded. Uh at starting pitcher, we'll going Team Heaven.

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00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is the last one for Hell

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01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,639
starting pitcher because We're just gonna run through team Heaven

1227
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:06,440
like there's not I don't need to talk about how

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01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,920
great of a guy. Roberto Clemente was Karl Mays, a

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01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:17,119
highly effective submarine right hander and starter from nineteen fifteen

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01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,480
to nineteen twenty nine, mostly with the Red Sox, Yankees

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and Reds two hundred and seven wins two point nine

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,119
to nine career era over three thousand innings. Pitched five

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01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:30,400
to twenty win seasons, including a league leading twenty seven

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01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:35,119
in nineteen twenty one with Babe Bruce Yankees. He also

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01:00:35,159 --> 01:00:37,400
helped the Red Sox win the nineteen eighteen World Series.

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01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,199
Really good player. He also killed a guy in a game.

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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: Probably sold his soul for that nineteen eighteen World Series.

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01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Well that was their last one before the Bambino, so

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01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,760
they didn't need to sell the soul, so they would

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have needed to sell the soul after they cursed themselves.

1241
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: No, he sold his soul. They won the championship and

1242
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,559
then never again. I think he did a couple more

1243
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,440
World Series, oh with different teams.

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01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: Because he was on the Yankees after that.

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01:01:03,639 --> 01:01:06,079
Speaker 1: Then he definitely did Yeah, yeah, well he sold the

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Red Sox.

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01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he killed a guy in a game on purpose.

1248
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,440
Many think, so did he just throw a bot his

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,320
head right into his left fucking temple.

1250
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: He wasn't wearing a helmet in the no one.

1251
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,639
Speaker 2: Was in the batter's box. During a game at the

1252
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:28,519
Polo Grounds, Mays threw a pitch that hit batter Ray

1253
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:34,119
Chapman square in the left temple. The impact was hard,

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01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,880
very hard, fractured Chapman's skull. He collapsed and he was

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01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,599
He was carried off the field mumbling I'm alright to

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May's not to worry, and then he died twelve hours

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,440
later in the home day.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like Billy Mays.

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: What I'm all right?

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01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:54,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Billy Mays died because he hit his

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01:01:54,159 --> 01:01:56,079
head getting off an airplane.

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01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think he did.

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: There might have been cocaine involved, but well there was

1264
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,039
Billy Mays here. Yeah. I think he was getting out

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of a plane, just banged his head against the top

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where the lights are and everything, and I think he

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gave himself a concussion and went to sleep and never

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woke up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll do it.

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Speaker 1: But also maybe cocaine in his system.

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01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: That would in surprise me. Yeah, so a lot of

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people think this was on purpose. He was known before

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01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:28,679
this already as a headhunter.

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Speaker 1: I like it, though, the sport needs it, soft sport.

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01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,199
Now you can't go out of guy's head. He have helmets.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, you can still fuck a guy up, hitting

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him in the head.

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Speaker 1: Just put it in his ribs.

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01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,519
Speaker 2: A lot of dudes get in the face and shit, it's.

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Speaker 1: Expected to put it in their ribs or in their ass.

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01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:50,760
You gotta make them think about it.

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't care about putting in the ribs. That's fine.

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01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:59,559
Faces A lot head is it's another story. Yeah, he

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01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,119
was known as ahead hunter. He led the league and

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01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:05,840
hit batters. Uh. I think a couple of times. Uh,

1286
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,440
definitely once for sure. And even ty Cobb thought he

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01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:11,360
was a piece of shit.

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01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: It's a point for him, though Ty Cobb disagrees with you.

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: No, ty Cob was like, he's too dirty, he plays

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too dirty.

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Speaker 1: That's probably how you think about Chase Attley.

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01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: No.

1293
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,599
Speaker 1: I love Chase at Yeah, I've heard you say, you're like, dude,

1294
01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:29,239
Chase Outley's dirty's player in the league.

1295
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,719
Speaker 2: Never thought it was Manny Machada. Fuck Manny Machado.

1296
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: So you're putting him in hell simply because he's a

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:37,519
dirty player.

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01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: No, I think he. I think he recklessly killed a guy.

1299
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,679
Speaker 1: Well, what did the guy do to him?

1300
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: Stepped into the batter's box?

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,159
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. There had to be a story there, There wasn't.

1302
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,119
He just didn't like the cut of his jib.

1303
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: No, he was just like, it's like a drunk driver

1304
01:03:55,159 --> 01:03:55,840
killing someone.

1305
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you uh, drunk drive, do UI? That's hell?

1306
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:05,519
Speaker 2: No, if you kill someone, maybe, especially if you don't

1307
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,639
feel bad or show any remorse or try to make

1308
01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:11,079
up for it in any way, which he didn't at all.

1309
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,639
Didn't give a single fuck that he killed him.

1310
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: Didn't take care of like the widow, and the kid.

1311
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: Didn't do anything. He was known as the most hated

1312
01:04:18,519 --> 01:04:23,559
man in baseball after that game. Showed showed little, if

1313
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:25,239
any remorse publicly.

1314
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:27,239
Speaker 1: He was just autistic.

1315
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:34,239
Speaker 2: And publicly refused to accept any personal So all autists.

1316
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,519
Speaker 1: Are in hell now. Okay, it's kind of fucked up

1317
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:39,119
for you to say.

1318
01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:43,119
Speaker 2: What would be the way to say? Neuro diversion, but

1319
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:46,639
like sole diversent, spiritually divergent.

1320
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,599
Speaker 1: Did he have red hair?

1321
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: Who knows? I'm not gonna get a I'm not gonna

1322
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,119
get a color photo of him. Now I guess he

1323
01:04:53,159 --> 01:04:57,159
died in nineteen seventy one, but like Freckles, Yeah, but yeah,

1324
01:04:57,199 --> 01:04:59,119
he killed a guy on the field, didn't seem to

1325
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:03,039
care and with no and it like played extremely dangerously

1326
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,719
up to that point, knowing that he could seriously injure

1327
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,280
or I guess apparently kill someone.

1328
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of on the sport.

1329
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,199
Speaker 2: He got a body, so after didn't give a shit.

1330
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,639
Speaker 1: He got his stay side. Did they change the rules

1331
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:18,599
of baseball for helmets.

1332
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: Uh. They started instituting helmets after him. Yeah, but it

1333
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:26,360
wasn't directly like League wind No, I mean you could.

1334
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,320
They started like figuring out, like maybe we should put

1335
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:28,920
helmets on these people.

1336
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: So you're considered a pussy if you were home.

1337
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kind of you're a bitch, kind of like

1338
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,119
in the NHL back in.

1339
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:36,079
Speaker 1: The day with like the visors.

1340
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:38,639
Speaker 2: Well first just a helmet at all. Yeah, and then

1341
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:40,960
they were like no helmets, but certain people are grandfather

1342
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:42,320
Did I remember when I was a kid, the.

1343
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: More in college everybody's got a cage.

1344
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember when I was a kid, the

1345
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,519
Blues had a grandfathered player who didn't have to wear

1346
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:55,280
a helmet. And then now I think they have to

1347
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,440
wear helmets and advisors. Yeah, soon it'll be a cage,

1348
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:58,880
I'm sure.

1349
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,159
Speaker 1: I like the old cool goalie hockey, like Jason boardhe's mass.

1350
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:06,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the offered much protection, But I

1351
01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:07,920
just don't think goalies actually get hit in the face

1352
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,320
that much.

1353
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,199
Speaker 1: Probably more now they have more flexibility than get down lower.

1354
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, getting that butterfly. They're all doing yoga and pilates.

1355
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:23,079
Speaker 1: And shit, all psycho paths you gotta be to be

1356
01:06:23,079 --> 01:06:27,199
a goalie. Lacross goalies are especially psychos.

1357
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: They didn't even have that much.

1358
01:06:28,639 --> 01:06:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't have any pads except you know, the helmet

1359
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,960
and the chest protector.

1360
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: And a cup I assume, Yeah, you gotta have a cup.

1361
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:39,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking a really hard rubber ball off the leg.

1362
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,679
It's gonna eventually hitching the yards.

1363
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: At probably what like one ten.

1364
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: Help as you can whip a lacrosse bail, Yeah, you

1365
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,719
can over a hundred miles an hour.

1366
01:06:49,719 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: Easily, for sure, at a certain level.

1367
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, I can't. I sucked, but that was a bad lacrosse.

1368
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,559
Speaker 2: I think by the time you get to college, it's

1369
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,840
it's hitting one hundred plus. Yeah, but that is the

1370
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,599
All Hell Team.

1371
01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:06,199
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's hear their competition.

1372
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: Next up, we got the All Heaven Team. We'll kind

1373
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,159
of run through this a little.

1374
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,679
Speaker 1: Quicker because because they're not interesting to talk about.

1375
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:17,039
Speaker 2: Nope, at Catcher, we got Yogi Bearra Okay, just a

1376
01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:18,320
sweetheart of a man.

1377
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,119
Speaker 1: He was a Yankee though, Yeah, docking them points.

1378
01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: Okay, just the sweetheart of a guy, one of the

1379
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,599
most beloved figures in baseball history. That guy's in heaven

1380
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,159
Saint Louis Is because he had.

1381
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: A cartoon named after him.

1382
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't hurt, doesn't hurt.

1383
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,599
Speaker 1: I also don't know enough about his personal life to

1384
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:37,239
dispute this.

1385
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:39,639
Speaker 2: He was just a nice guy, that's all. It was

1386
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:40,599
just a sweetheart.

1387
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,719
Speaker 1: I gotta just go right now, like check you live.

1388
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,800
Go to their individual wikipedias and be like controversy, controversy.

1389
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get that with Yogi,

1390
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:54,280
except for like within baseball, like tell.

1391
01:07:54,159 --> 01:07:56,639
Speaker 1: Us in the comments if everything fucked up about the

1392
01:07:56,719 --> 01:07:57,679
All Heaven teams.

1393
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:02,239
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fun at first. I don't care what he

1394
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did in his life. He suffered enough on earth to

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,119
make it to heaven.

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Speaker 1: Lou Garrett, Yeah, he's a unit.

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01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: That man's in heaven.

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: All right, they're stacked already. Lou was the man. I mean,

1399
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,760
it's just the Yankees, You're you're just doing the twenties.

1400
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,520
Speaker 2: I think that was the last Yankee. I'm pretty sure

1401
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,760
the last Yankee dude.

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,359
Speaker 1: Lou Garry though, just us Bess and then go back

1403
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:28,640
and look at photos of Louke.

1404
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,319
Speaker 2: Garrett shirtless, go to Google shirtless lu Garrett.

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01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: The fact that he suffered that as his fate, it's

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,479
just truly, truly horrible.

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,279
Speaker 2: It's tragic.

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01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is Greek tragedy because he was a

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,439
Greek god.

1410
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,159
Speaker 2: I wrote a joke in an exec board script one

1411
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:51,479
time that didn't get used where it was like, uh,

1412
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,760
the fraternity was raising money to uh defeat lou Geregg's disease,

1413
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,560
and they didn't understand what it was about, so they

1414
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,279
burned lou garreg in effigy.

1415
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:06,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, all well, remember Luke Gregg four now

1416
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,479
is dumping buckets of ice water on people's heads.

1417
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also he had I don't want to call it

1418
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:16,359
a LS, it's Luke Aris's. It's Luke Gregg's disease.

1419
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: Honor the man yes, it was around before him, right, Yeah, yeah, certainly.

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01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: He didn't invent it, but I'm calling it Luke Grig's disease.

1421
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,920
But that they thought he invented Lukeris and so they

1422
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,159
burned him in effigy at the at the at the philanthropy.

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01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the worst way to go.

1424
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't think of it. Yeah, it's about as

1425
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,239
bad as it goes.

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01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: Luke Greg's disease parlayed with like dementia.

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01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he I think it was too fast

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,720
for him to even know.

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying that would be the worst.

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:51,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. At second base, Charlie Garringer just a sweet,

1431
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:54,680
humble guy. Who is it, I don't know, but he was.

1432
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,600
He was known, he was a good player and just

1433
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,399
known as like one of the like nicest guys in baseball.

1434
01:09:59,159 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: Google nicest guys in baseball history.

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,199
Speaker 2: I did did my research on this, don't worry about it.

1436
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:07,039
Speaker 1: And that's what like the AI spit out.

1437
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't even AI. I was fucking finding articles

1438
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:16,479
and all this kind of bullshit. A shortstop another loaded

1439
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:21,239
person here, Honus Wagner. I'm familiar with him to one

1440
01:10:21,239 --> 01:10:24,560
of the greatest players in baseball history, early baseball though,

1441
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,640
this is kind of like ty cob Era, But Honus

1442
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,680
Wagner was one of the greatest hitters of all time. Famously,

1443
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,359
he pulled his own baseball card from cigarette packs, which

1444
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:36,079
they were sold in at the time because he didn't

1445
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:36,840
want kids to smoke.

1446
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,520
Speaker 1: What a good guy. Yeah, sorry, he hates big tobacco

1447
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,680
in American businesses. Sounds like a commedyuh.

1448
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: And teammates and opponents called him the most decent and

1449
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,039
humble superstar of the dead ball era. Just a good dude,

1450
01:10:52,399 --> 01:10:54,600
all right, Just a good dude. So with team having

1451
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,399
two I had to wait, like, were there better human

1452
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:01,359
beings than Honus Wagner who played shortstop? Probably? Were they

1453
01:11:01,399 --> 01:11:03,000
also as good as Honus Wagner?

1454
01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:03,359
Speaker 1: No?

1455
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: No, So if they're in heaven, I'm not putting I'm

1456
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,119
not putting your morality above his statistics if you're both

1457
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:08,840
in heaven.

1458
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:14,039
Speaker 1: Even though you should. Yeah, it should be a nice

1459
01:11:14,079 --> 01:11:14,760
little balance.

1460
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure I could have found like a two year

1461
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,159
player from the nineteen twenties that left and joined the mob.

1462
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:22,000
I bet you could have lit a bus on fire.

1463
01:11:22,119 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: You could not have.

1464
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 2: But there's at some point we need we need hitters,

1465
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,119
you know what I mean.

1466
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: Numbers have to matter.

1467
01:11:28,079 --> 01:11:31,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, numbers have to matter here. Uh, third base Brooks

1468
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:33,920
Robinson of the Orioles, the greatest defensive third basement of

1469
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,800
all time. According to you, most people believe that although

1470
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,720
Machado is making a case, but he'll be on team

1471
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:45,079
hell so. Uh just bad dude.

1472
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,279
Speaker 1: What's your beef of Machado? Just bad dude, because he's like,

1473
01:11:52,079 --> 01:11:53,760
you know, spank to you guys a little bit here

1474
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,279
and there. He never really has.

1475
01:11:55,359 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's beaten us before, but not. I wasn't

1476
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:02,319
never like Machado. I mostly watch them as a baseball fan,

1477
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:09,479
like Dick Okay, either way, Brooks Robinson always known as

1478
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,600
exceptionally kind and humble, always signing autographs, being a nice guy.

1479
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,039
Regarded by baseball riders and players as one of the

1480
01:12:18,079 --> 01:12:20,760
classiest guys to ever play the game. Blah blah blah,

1481
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:26,600
great player in heaven. Uh in the outfield got Roberto Clemente,

1482
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,560
who the who died in a plane crash trying to

1483
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,680
deliver humanitarian relief to Nicaragua.

1484
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? We sure he wasn't a

1485
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,399
part of Iran Contra?

1486
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: Who could say I guess I think that was around

1487
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,479
the time.

1488
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: Ye providing weapons to the rebels.

1489
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,520
Speaker 2: If those files ever come out, I'll update the team, okay,

1490
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:54,760
but until they do. As far as I'm as far

1491
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,119
as I know, he's in heaven. The Best Human Being

1492
01:12:57,119 --> 01:12:59,439
in Baseball Award is named after him, so he's there

1493
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:01,760
also in the outfield.

1494
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:04,319
Speaker 1: That makes me want to strike him down even more.

1495
01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:07,840
All Right, I needed to find the I need to dig.

1496
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,399
Speaker 2: Dig into it, just like Hey, chat GPT, tell me

1497
01:13:11,399 --> 01:13:17,600
everything that connects Roberto Clemente. I, oh no, dude, it's

1498
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:18,000
right there.

1499
01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:20,279
Speaker 1: Oh shit, this whole time is hiding the plane side.

1500
01:13:20,319 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: Hey, I found it immediately. Next up we got stand usual,

1501
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:27,159
one of the greatest hitters of all time. Inner Circle guy.

1502
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,399
Not much to say again, really good human being, A

1503
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:33,359
devout Catholic.

1504
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: H That's why. That's the only reason he made the team.

1505
01:13:38,199 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: It's good enough reason. Well, that and that he's one

1506
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,079
of the greatest hitters of all time.

1507
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,199
Speaker 1: See the glare and lack of Mickey Mantle.

1508
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,319
Speaker 2: I didn't want to put him in hell. Can't put

1509
01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:50,840
him in hell.

1510
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,079
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Just like he wanted to have a

1511
01:13:55,079 --> 01:13:55,920
good time. So what.

1512
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: They were better? There? Were enough people, people who were

1513
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,159
morally better and also as good numbers.

1514
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:09,520
Speaker 1: Wise, nicky man, it's fucking Mickey.

1515
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,319
Speaker 2: And actually, here's why I won't put him on team

1516
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:22,479
Heaven wasted his talent, which he himself even said that

1517
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,920
he was so selfish and obsessed with fame and women

1518
01:14:27,239 --> 01:14:29,720
and boozing that he did not get the most out

1519
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,199
of what might be the most talented person to ever

1520
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:36,439
play baseball. Along with like Otanian Bonds.

1521
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:39,520
Speaker 1: That sounds like a good Heaven wasting your talent being

1522
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,239
with a lot of women and drinking. Sorry, he likes

1523
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:42,920
a good time.

1524
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 2: Not putting in there. Stan got everything out of it,

1525
01:14:45,159 --> 01:14:49,279
Roberto got everything out of it, better human beings, and then,

1526
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,039
last but not least in the outfield, another extremely good

1527
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:55,039
human being who is one of the greatest baseball players

1528
01:14:55,039 --> 01:14:55,479
of all time.

1529
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:56,159
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

1530
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:58,239
Speaker 2: What do you think I'm gonna say?

1531
01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't let her brave? Yeah, you

1532
01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:05,880
gotta throw your fucking boys on.

1533
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 2: Who do you think I'm gonna say?

1534
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: Um, just go, I don't know.

1535
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 2: Hank Aaron Okay, you got something to say about Hank.

1536
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Hammer and Hank No, No, he's mostly a good dude. Yeah,

1537
01:15:22,119 --> 01:15:25,760
everything I've read about him.

1538
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,119
Speaker 2: Like just great guy, all around, mentored young players all

1539
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:30,560
the time, went through hell when he was breaking the

1540
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:31,359
home run record.

1541
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out something shitty about him.

1542
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,359
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1543
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,239
Speaker 1: Family, It's not like a Caesar Chavez situation.

1544
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,039
Speaker 2: Oh man, we need we need to do a Caesar

1545
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:42,000
Chaves episode. Yeah asap.

1546
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to rename that street here in Austin. Boy,

1547
01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:52,399
holy fuck, no good, no, plain bad dude.

1548
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,520
Speaker 2: That guy it's on the all Hell farm team.

1549
01:15:56,319 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: He didn't have the stasts to make it. He's playing

1550
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:01,119
single a ball right now.

1551
01:16:01,279 --> 01:16:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then starting pitcher another again, very upstanding

1552
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:10,840
man and Hall of Famer Bob Feller. Sure right, it's

1553
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,640
the Heaven team. Not now, let's talk about who's winning.

1554
01:16:17,079 --> 01:16:19,359
Speaker 1: Team Heaven. I think so they've gone on their side.

1555
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:20,479
They have angels in the outfield.

1556
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,199
Speaker 2: Literally, I think they're you know, well, you know, was

1557
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:24,840
Venezuela better than Team USA?

1558
01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a better team.

1559
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,199
Speaker 2: More motivated team, not a better team more motivated.

1560
01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, there's a better team. It's

1561
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,680
a better team.

1562
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:41,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who's gonna come in to this game? Who's

1563
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:45,079
gonna have a chip on their shoulder, and they've got

1564
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:46,119
some they've got some hitters.

1565
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: Man too much conflict.

1566
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that, but here look at it, like, listen.

1567
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: Who's gonna lead the team. First off, there's a bunch

1568
01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:55,039
of player managers that are gonna butt head.

1569
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: I think cap Anson probably. Now the problem is, well

1570
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,720
cap Anson refused to play. You have schizophrenic with Hank

1571
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,560
Aaron and Roberto Clemente on the field, Will cap Anson

1572
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:05,439
even take the field?

1573
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: Take the fields? They're gonna be a player short. Meanwhile, also,

1574
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,880
a guy is seeing hallucinations as he's trying to play.

1575
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: I think cap Anson walks onto the field, sees Clemente

1576
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,000
and Aaron and is like, oh, I guess we're still

1577
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,319
in hell.

1578
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:24,319
Speaker 1: Pete might throw his own team under the bus because

1579
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:27,399
he made a couple side wagers on Team Heaven.

1580
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 2: Pete bet on himself. Now you gotta wonder about Swede

1581
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,600
Swede Risburg.

1582
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,119
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean there's plenty of yeah, degenerate gamblers that

1583
01:17:35,159 --> 01:17:36,039
are gonna throw games.

1584
01:17:36,079 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 2: And U and Joe Gedion, Who's gonna then go to

1585
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,279
God and be like, Hey, we threw the game. Can

1586
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:43,319
I be in Heaven.

1587
01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: Now Heaven by like twelve runs.

1588
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,359
Speaker 2: Heaven does have a distinct starting pitcher advantage.

1589
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 1: Also, the fucking power you got Hammer and Hank alone.

1590
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,520
Speaker 2: Got Babe Ruth on Team Hell is Hank sail.

1591
01:17:58,399 --> 01:17:59,119
Speaker 1: Your home run king?

1592
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely get one, did it clean? Team Hell has

1593
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:10,079
a lot of great hitters, Kirby Pucket, great hitter Babe Ruth.

1594
01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:12,479
Obviously h Ty Cod.

1595
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: Can put Babe Ruth on him to make it more even.

1596
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he's in Hell, Pete Rose.

1597
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: I forgot you did it too. He should not be

1598
01:18:19,039 --> 01:18:21,520
in Hell, cap Cap. There's no reason Baby Ruth should

1599
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:21,800
be in Hell.

1600
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,359
Speaker 2: Like pet Baby Ruth in Hell. What do you just

1601
01:18:23,359 --> 01:18:24,039
need to accept it?

1602
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:30,399
Speaker 1: He showed up in the sandlot as like a guidance ghost.

1603
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,239
A guy from Hell is not doing that.

1604
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:39,239
Speaker 2: He escaped from hell, stole something from the child, smoked

1605
01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:42,039
in a child's bedroom.

1606
01:18:42,399 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: We should just give him life lessons. M A man

1607
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,560
from Hell is not going to do that, Babe Ruth

1608
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,279
very much, at least in purgatory.

1609
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,239
Speaker 2: I think he's now.

1610
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have it out for him. I don't know

1611
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,279
why I.

1612
01:18:58,319 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 2: Love Babe Ruth. Is I love Babe Ruth. He's a

1613
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,840
hell because the man liked to eat glutton.

1614
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 1: You're fat Shaman, now glutton? All right? He needed all

1615
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,000
the energy?

1616
01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:15,279
Speaker 2: Could you needed that protein? He also like, wasn't that fat?

1617
01:19:15,319 --> 01:19:15,960
Which is actually go.

1618
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: To I know he's like George Costanza fat.

1619
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth weight two hundred and fifteen pounds, weigh.

1620
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 1: As much as Babe Ruth.

1621
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,319
Speaker 2: Wait what was his height? I think he was pretty

1622
01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:29,840
tall too.

1623
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Speaker 1: I'm six foot and I weigh two fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was six two six two two fifteen Babe

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Ruth with the same fat.

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Speaker 1: Damn, I gotta lose some LB's.

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Speaker 2: Uh. All right, Well that's all I got for today.

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You got Team Heaven. I think te have probably takes.

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I think Bob Feller kind of tips it. I think

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the lineups are more even even than you think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they are, just because I forgot Babe Ruth was

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on Hell for some reason, because I would not imagine

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Babe Ruth ever in Hell. But I I think there's

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too much conflict on Hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong. Catcher situation A loans me a nightmare?

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Speaker 1: Who's their manager? Satan from South Park?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't do managers.

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Speaker 1: I should have him and said dom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Team Heaven is any number of sweet managers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know we're going to run out the line up.

1641
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Burber's gonna be third? Or who's it all?

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01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know who Heaven's made. We'll

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,279
just say Jesus. Jesus is a vanaging team.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know if he knows ball though. That's

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the problem, buddy.

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01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: Anyone can write that lineup.

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01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:42,359
Speaker 1: You're right, can't fuck that up. We thought that with

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the US team against fantas kids.

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying here.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 2: It's not a given. Now here's the last one? Should

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they play one or seven?

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01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:51,359
Speaker 1: It's seven games series? Okay?

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

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01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:55,520
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, I agree, real baseball, proper baseball. This

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isn't March madness.

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Speaker 2: I agree. All right. That's all I got for today. Yeah,

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on the all Heaven Versus All Hell team, and.

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01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: I enjoyed myself. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Do what I can share it with your friends in

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01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,359
honor of opening Day.

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Speaker 1: We're talking bas Bo. We also do a sports show

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on our Patreon.

1664
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:17,079
Speaker 2: On the Upper Tier.

1665
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Every week we do a sports show. I get

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out Golf Picks.

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01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: We'll do an WB preview this week.

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01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, there'll be most of it awesome. Well, most of

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01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:26,159
it's March Madness too.

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01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: Well it's gonna be a loaded sports show, a long,

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long show.

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,239
Speaker 2: Yes.

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01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,520
Speaker 1: Also two shows like this on the lower tier and

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01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,479
the higher tier you get it too that are just

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01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,000
like this history related that drop Wednesday and Friday. Check

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,119
it out Patreon dot com, saf Software History. Tell your

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friends about it. Gift your friends the gift of Patreon.

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Hell yeah, get them in, get him in the door.

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01:21:48,079 --> 01:21:51,199
Speaker 2: Give a gift for good birthday gift, probably a horrible

1681
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,119
Mother's Day gift, but do it anyway.

1682
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: With your mom.

1683
01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, or your wife.

1684
01:21:55,359 --> 01:21:57,399
Speaker 1: We really need to get the female listenership up.

1685
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you give to your wife?

1686
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:04,159
Speaker 1: Also, subscribe to the YouTube we reveal on Apple and

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Spotify five stars, please and thank you. And if we

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01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:09,239
get a couple of reviews on Apple that are worth reading,

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we'll do that. If we get enough, yep, so we'll

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do that next week's the week after whenever they come.

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Speaker 2: Yep, sounds good.

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Speaker 1: So fur Fox, I'm Damna Jester. You just got saw

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