WEBVTT 1 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:26.199 Three terrifying days have already passed, and we have four 2 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.480 more to go still, So please join us here on 3 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:36.520 Halloween Week with Wicked and Grim. My name is Jacko, 4 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.200 and I will continue to be your master of ceremonies 5 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:44.560 for the remaining four days, but we are going to 6 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:49.920 go past just the seven day tradition and continue the 7 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:56.000 urban legends. Last year we had three urban legends. 8 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:00.280 Two true and one false. Were you able to hell 9 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.879 which was which? This year we have too false and 10 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:10.040 one true. Again, will you be able to tell the difference? 11 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.319 Can you make the call which is truth and which 12 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:21.879 is nearly legend? To bring us these cases, I must 13 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:29.840 first introduce your hosts. So, without further ado, introducing Ben 14 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:31.159 and Nicole. 15 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:36.439 Welcome back to Halloween Week. 16 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:39.879 My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to 17 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.159 Wicked and Grim. 18 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:48.319 A true crime podcast. I need this drink today. 19 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.599 Ah yeah, this is an earned drink today. 20 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.519 Prior to it was just indulging. Today, it was like, no, 21 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:56.400 I kind of need a fucking drink. 22 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.040 Today was a day we broke the Internet. 23 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:02.840 Today we did that was something to put it in 24 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:04.280 any way, shape or form. 25 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:06.879 I mean, it was very minor but it was unexpected. 26 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:13.080 Yes, so we released finally our mugs. 27 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.840 Yeah, are artisan black pottery mugs. 28 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.400 Let's say stay wicked. 29 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.719 So they say stay wicked on it. We finally released them. 30 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.680 We have a total of thirty made. We kept one 31 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.439 and we gave another one away in a giveaway, So 32 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.840 twenty eight went up for sale on our Etsy page. 33 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:31.680 Today, our brand new Etsy page. 34 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:35.240 Yes, never sold anything on it before, so it was 35 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:37.479 a bit of a shit show getting things started on there. 36 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:39.919 And then when we finally got it up, we're like, 37 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:43.120 we announced it in Patreon and on Instagram and on Facebook. 38 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:44.360 We're like, they're live. 39 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.919 Boom, go grab one, yeah, go snag one. 40 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:53.000 They went so fast, so fast, I think. 41 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.039 It was eleven eleven sold in about a minute. 42 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:59.479 And Etsy stepped in and cut us off and suspended 43 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:03.159 our account because of suspicious behavior because a brand new 44 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.919 account was selling shit way too fucking fast. 45 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.840 So wait, yeah, what the heck? Why stomp on our 46 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.240 is it stomp on our parade? Does that? 47 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:14.319 What? 48 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:15.159 Rain on our parade? 49 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.560 Rain on our parade? Like, come on, just because we're awesome. 50 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:20.639 Yeah, So we currently have seventeen mugs in limbo eleven 51 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.639 sold and we are in works with Etsy. We've been 52 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:27.319 emailing them and they're going through an investigation to ensure 53 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.719 that we're not doing anything wrong. 54 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.120 Yes, so we will be able to sell those remaining 55 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:33.479 mugs at some point. 56 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:35.960 We just don't know when Ettsy's gonna get added to us. 57 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.000 But the thing is like, at one point I looked 58 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.520 in there and there was probably like twenty people that 59 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.599 had them in their carts, Like, so it would have 60 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:45.599 they would have sold out, and like, I bet you 61 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:46.919 a manner of five minutes. 62 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:48.080 Oh easy. 63 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.520 So we will also be ordering more mugs. 64 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:55.080 Yes, there will be more mugs, so don't worry if 65 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:55.960 you don't get these. 66 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:56.560 Yeah. 67 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.000 I remember when we went to order these ben Bens, 68 00:03:59.039 --> 00:03:59.919 like should we get like ten? 69 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:03.199 I was like, oh, that might be a little low. 70 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:06.759 So we said it on thirty. Yeah that wasn't enough either. 71 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:11.000 So yeah, there will be more mugs to come. Don't 72 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.439 worry about it. We'll get it worked out with Etsy 73 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.400 one way or another. If we don't, maybe we need 74 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.959 to get our website into an e commerce mode. Yeah, 75 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.800 I don't know. We got to figure it out. 76 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:20.439 We'll see. 77 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.040 But honestly, you guys are awesome. 78 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.720 Yeah, so thank you for helping to get our Etsy 79 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:27.680 page suspended. 80 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.319 You continue to blow our minds with your support. 81 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:31.560 So guys are wicked. 82 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:32.759 It's unbelievable. 83 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.360 Actually, every time we do something, I'm like, h like 84 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:40.839 this will go all right, and then it just wow, 85 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.040 like wow wow. Yeah, So honestly, thank you. We're going 86 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.639 to get this fixed. We'll communicate as best we can, 87 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.920 and we'll order some more mugs. 88 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:51.120 There we go. Yeah, and want to know what else 89 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:51.639 we're gonna do? 90 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:53.759 Okay, is this moch today's episode? 91 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:54.279 It is? 92 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:56.160 I am pumped? 93 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:57.560 You're pumped? Why you pumped? 94 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.600 This was literally one of my favorites from last Halloween week? 95 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.920 Okay, but I got to say, next year, you have 96 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.920 to be the one to do the research. I want 97 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:06.319 to guess. 98 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.360 No, it's too fun guessing. This is your tradition. It's 99 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.879 your tradition to do this episode. 100 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.240 That's bullshit, malarkey. 101 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.079 We'll talk, we'll talk. Maybe we'll have to do. 102 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:21.399 Two okay, yeah, well we'll figure that out. But last 103 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.240 year we did too true and one false, and this 104 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.759 year we're doing too false and one true. Okay, so 105 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.480 it's up to you to figure out which is which. 106 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:31.759 I have no idea how I did last year, I 107 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.959 should have listened to that. I have no idea. I 108 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:38.480 probably didn't. I know I didn't get them both that I. 109 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.959 Don't think you got the true one or the false one. 110 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:45.040 Okay, I don't know. 111 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:45.600 I can't remember. 112 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.680 So this year we're doing okay, two it. 113 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:51.160 Is this year. 114 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.720 Okay, last year, I don't think you succeeded. I think 115 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.040 you managed to guess one correctly. I think if I 116 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:59.839 remember right, this year, just ignore the rest of it. 117 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.199 Now, Yep, we're clean Slaton this year. 118 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:05.759 Two false, one true. 119 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.360 Two false, one true. I mean I think last year 120 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.560 that they're all fucking false, So maybe this will be easier. 121 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.439 Yeah, so this year you have to figure out which 122 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:13.639 one is true. 123 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.240 Okay, we got our we got like, let's do this. 124 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.199 I mean, it's not just me, it's all of us here, 125 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.560 So okay. 126 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:24.040 So we're gonna start off here. And I'm not telling 127 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:29.120 you any sort of title of these cases, okay, especially 128 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:31.720 primarily because anyone out there listening can be like. 129 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.279 Oh Google, real quick, good old Google. 130 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.160 So this is to mostly help prevent you guys from 131 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:38.879 doing that and actually use you knocking a little bit. 132 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:40.839 Okay, Yeah, it's fun this is fun. 133 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.079 Even though I'm pretty sure you can quickly figure it 134 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:44.360 out and google it still, but. 135 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:47.279 No google, no, no all out. That's rule number one. 136 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:52.399 And rule number two. Nicole is doing this next year. Okay, 137 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:53.800 First of all, I need to take sip. 138 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:58.600 There you go. That was more like a chug. 139 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:05.199 That was a big zip. Okay, Before, before the time 140 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:08.560 of big chain stores and online shopping, people needed a 141 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.720 little bit more creativity when it came to things like 142 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:13.040 Halloween and their costumes. 143 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.759 Okay, yep, it's fair. Now. 144 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.800 There were no stores to go buy a Super Mario costume. 145 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.519 There is no butterfly wings you can go pick up 146 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.040 off the shelf to be you know, that Faerry or 147 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.480 whatever you want to do for your costume. Instead, people 148 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.759 would throw together what they had available in their closets 149 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:33.600 and mix together with a few homemade items and be 150 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.720 as resourceful as they could and you know, make things 151 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:37.120 out of like paper mache for. 152 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.079 Example, which I altant to kind of love. 153 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:43.000 Right. It really makes the Halloween a lot different rather 154 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:44.879 than I'm just going to go grab fifty bucks and 155 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:49.000 see what's left on the shelf. So in nineteen sixty two, 156 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.199 this is exactly how Halloween looked okay, And in nineteen 157 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.360 sixty two, in a very small town in the United States, 158 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.920 they were gearing up for Halloween night. The sun was 159 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:03.560 slowly dipping out down over the horizon, and due to 160 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:06.040 the age of the individuals in this case, most of 161 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.480 the names have been kept quiet and as quiet as possible. 162 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:10.680 So I'm going to continue to do that. 163 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:11.199 Okay. 164 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:14.879 So this girl in the case, the main one, We're 165 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:16.040 going to call her Marla. 166 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:16.560 Marla. 167 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.639 Marla was fifteen years old and getting prepped for Halloween. 168 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:21.800 She was getting ready to throw a Halloween party with 169 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.600 a bunch of friends from school. So Marla lived with 170 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.720 her dad, who was a heavy drinker and he worked 171 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.879 out at camp as a tree feller, so he was 172 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.679 away for Halloween, and Marla's mother had moved away with 173 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.759 her new husband, so she was essentially home alone for 174 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.519 the night, which gave her the complete ability to throw 175 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:42.320 a Halloween party at the age of fifteen. 176 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:43.159 Yikes. 177 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:47.960 Yeah, so Marla knew exactly where her dad stashed all 178 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.159 his alcohol. Yikes again, under his bed, in the toolbox 179 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.679 in the shed out back, and even behind an old 180 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.480 air duct that was located under the floorboards in the basement. 181 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.440 Oh my gosh. Okay, well she's very observant. 182 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:06.240 Yeah, so she gathered up as much as she could 183 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:08.799 without being suspicious and got ready for the night with 184 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.919 her friends. Slowly they began arriving, all dressed up in 185 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:18.440 their homemade costumes, dinning, sorry, donning paper mache masks, burlap hoods, 186 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.799 and even some clown makeup, all in this old fashioned style, 187 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:24.320 nothing you'd find bought off the Walmart type shelf. 188 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.600 I'm honestly loving the visual going on in my head 189 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:27.039 right now. 190 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.519 Well, it was like it was a cool little party 191 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.519 sort of thing. It seemed like right, and it was 192 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:34.120 the whole like regular teenage rowdiness that occurred. You know, 193 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:36.159 they went like cruising, because that was the thing that 194 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:37.759 happened that time. 195 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:38.960 Cruising, cruising. 196 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.720 Oh as they're also drink consuming alcohol. 197 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:44.159 Yeah, this is the sixties. 198 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.039 I know, this is the sixties. 199 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.600 So they were like kind of partying at the house. 200 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:49.399 Some would go cruise, they'd kind of come back sort 201 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:52.000 of thing, right, Okay, And apparently they even went out 202 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.600 while they were cruising and they threw water grenades at 203 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:59.960 neighborhood mailboxes. And water grenades were apparently a specific brand 204 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.000 at the time. Nowadays everyone calls him, of course water balloons. 205 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.200 Oh okay, so yeah, I guess that brand was Ellington's 206 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:11.879 water Grenades. So some trick or treaters, of course did 207 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:14.279 stop by during the evening, and by about nine to 208 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:16.919 thirty pm, the trick or treaters kind of you know, 209 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:20.120 dwindled down right, but by now the house was packed 210 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:23.200 with about twenty or so people. One of the boys, 211 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.600 who we will call Tommy, brought his new polaroid camera 212 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:28.519 and decided he was going to take a group photo 213 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:31.159 of everybody nice. So they all piled around and took 214 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.320 a snapshot together, but no one realized how important this 215 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:36.720 photograph would be later on. 216 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.960 Uh oh uh oh. 217 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.519 As the evening went on, more and more drinks were 218 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:47.360 consumed and things got a little fuzzy. Someone later described 219 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.879 vaguely remembering a window being propped open with a piece 220 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.720 of wood from the outside, but never really thought much 221 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:55.759 of it and kind of brushed it off and continued 222 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:59.080 to have fun. The night went on, and then around 223 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:04.679 midnight all hell broke loose inside the house. A scream 224 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.559 was heard from down the hall in the house as 225 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.919 someone came running from a bedroom with someone chasing them 226 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:11.039 with a butcher knife. 227 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:12.600 Oh my gosh. 228 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.639 They caught up to him quickly plunged the knife into 229 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.759 their back and everyone panicked. 230 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.120 Oh wow, that is a scene. 231 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.840 They all ran for the nearest door to escape, but 232 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.320 the doors were locked and no one could get out. 233 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:27.919 Oh my gosh, this is like a horror movie. 234 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.320 The person stood up after killing the first individual, and 235 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.240 they had a black hood with black fabric draped across 236 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:38.559 their face. Okay, they couldn't be seen they or sorry, 237 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.799 no one could see who they were. Couldn't see their face. 238 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:45.840 Panic continued as these fifteen year old kids slammed onto 239 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:51.559 the doors trying to frantically escape the house. However they couldn't. 240 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:55.519 A total of seven people were killed wow with stab 241 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.559 wounds and cutthroats that night, and two were injured with 242 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.600 minor injuries. Marla was one of the victims who lost 243 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:03.120 their life. 244 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:04.600 Oh my gosh. 245 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.919 Now the killer only took out seven individuals because he 246 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.879 had to get away before the police had arrived. And 247 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:14.039 that's exactly what he did. He had that window that 248 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:18.000 was propped open. Everything else was locked, but that window 249 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:19.000 that he took advantage. 250 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.120 So he was planning this, Yes. 251 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:25.600 So they escaped out the back window, and that's it. 252 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.559 No one knew who this was. After multiple days of 253 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.759 questioning with the police, no one was able to identify 254 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:36.519 who this black clad individual was. Everyone thought it was 255 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.240 someone else's friend who came to the party with them, 256 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.720 But yet no one recalls seeing this individual actually arrive 257 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:44.639 at the party either. 258 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:47.000 Okay, yeah, I was thinking it wasn't someone that was 259 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:47.639 at the party. 260 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.360 The only evidence any police were able to recover was 261 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.399 the single polaroid photo of the entire group. Now wouldn't 262 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.879 be until about nineteen sixty nine that any more evidence 263 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:04.879 would be found, and that evidence was found in a 264 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:09.759 wooded area near Marla's house. She lived not too far 265 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.720 away from this area, and it was right where the 266 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:16.960 party occurred, and they found the black hood oh mask 267 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:18.639 and the same fabric. 268 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:19.879 One quite a few years later. 269 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.440 Then seven years later, my goodness, it was found deteriorated 270 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:25.799 and discarded, but no one was still able to be 271 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:30.159 identified to this day, and the whole case remains a mystery. 272 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:31.240 Huh. 273 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.000 Now, I'm gonna pull up the actual polaroid for you 274 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:34.759 so you can see it. 275 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.559 Okay, and I already have a question. Okay, I'm doing one. 276 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.879 True right, one true, and two false. 277 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.120 Ye Okay, I already have my thoughts on this one. 278 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.399 I mean, I'm not going to say because it could 279 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.840 change though after I hear the other ones. 280 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:52.960 So you can see there's the polaroid and you can 281 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.360 see the black clad individual dead center. 282 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:01.679 Huh wow, that's the actually like the most haunting photo 283 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:03.120 I think I've ever seen in my life. 284 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:04.639 Right, it's terrifying. 285 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:07.159 It's almost like an executioner's kind of hood with like 286 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.080 the eyes and mouth cut out, but it's a complete 287 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:14.200 black mask otherwise, So that is tail number one. Okay, 288 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.480 where's your stance on that? Let's hear it. 289 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.320 No, I'm not saying them until the end. 290 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.120 What that's no fun because you're I want because you 291 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.000 might change your mind. I want to hear you as 292 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:23.679 you process. 293 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.000 Okay, well, I'm thinking this one is false. 294 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.919 You're thinking this one's like why are you thinking? 295 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:29.360 Actually? 296 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:34.159 Because this seems like a pretty big deal of a 297 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.080 case and I have never heard of it, and I 298 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:39.000 would be very surprised if that was legit and that 299 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:42.559 I had never heard of it. Okay, I mean because 300 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.320 a lot of times you search like abnormal cases or 301 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.279 like Halloween cases, and I just have never come across 302 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.440 this one, so I'm I'm going with false. 303 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:55.960 Fair enough, Okay, Okay, so what about the picture? 304 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:57.559 Then, Well, the fact that you showed me the picture 305 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:02.679 does fuck me up a little. So that's why I 306 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:04.240 was like, I'm gonna wait until I hear the other 307 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:06.720 ones that now you're making me safe. But I'm still 308 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.720 gonna go with false because that photo kind of doesn't 309 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:10.159 seem a. 310 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:13.720 Legit to me in which way. 311 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.639 I think that that costume or that person could have 312 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.679 been like photoshopped in there. Okay, you know that you 313 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:21.879 can do a lot with photoshop. 314 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:22.440 I know this. 315 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:27.360 Clearly because you are a photographer who deals with photoshops. 316 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:27.840 On a daily basis. 317 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.159 So gotcha. Okay, So the second case, you ready for it? 318 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.519 Then yes, I'm ready to roll. 319 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.480 Okay. So we're gonna go back and we're going to 320 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:38.879 talk about a classic film for this one. 321 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:39.320 Okay. 322 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.440 So we're talking about the amazingly film produced by MGM, 323 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:47.360 which is timeless, The Wizard of Oz. 324 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:47.960 Oh my goodness. 325 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:52.559 Okay, the revolutionary color picture has the amazing makeup, the 326 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.759 crazy sets and all of it. You name it, it's 327 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.559 got it. It was an amazing movie. It was beautiful, 328 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:06.039 but it's got some dark secrets and some dark tails 329 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:11.120 behind it. For example, the tin Man reportedly had severe 330 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.360 lead poisoning from the lead based paint that he had 331 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.919 pasted all over his skin from every day of filming. 332 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:17.120 That's brutal. 333 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.000 The Cowardly Lion was on the edge of having heat 334 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:23.320 stroke every moment when he was suited up and reportedly 335 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.039 collapsed often and couldn't eat or drink properly due to 336 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:26.600 his makeup. 337 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:27.360 Wow. 338 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:31.039 And the Wicked Witch who received severe burns from performing 339 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:34.080 a stunt involving pyrotechnics as she dropped through a trap 340 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.600 door in the set to make it seem as she 341 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:37.919 disappeared in the smoke. 342 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:39.480 Holy shit. 343 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:43.480 So we won't be covering any of those stories today, 344 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:46.240 whether those are true or false. However, these are things 345 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:48.639 that have reportedly occurred on this movie set. 346 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:53.639 Okay, and what year was that movie or filmed? Do 347 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:54.080 you have that? 348 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:56.000 I thought i'd put it in here, but I don't 349 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.080 think I do have it in here. 350 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:59.840 Now sho Google search A quick Google search. 351 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.399 Yeah, I can't believe it. I didn't put the date 352 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:02.799 in there, and though he was looking it. 353 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:03.519 Could be around. 354 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.480 I have no idea could be around that same time 355 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:07.519 as the first one. 356 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.160 Or oh no, it was earlier than that. It was 357 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.400 in like the forties I think. Okay, nineteen thirty nine. 358 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.680 There we go, okay, wow, yeah, so this is like 359 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:19.160 WCB and shit. 360 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:23.960 Work Safe BC? Yeah yeah, so yeah. 361 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:25.799 Because yeah, you could never get away with that kind 362 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:26.599 of shit nowadays. 363 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:31.640 No, and WCB and rightfully so yes, WCB just for 364 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.319 you guys out there, that's the because we're in British Columbia. 365 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.559 It's the governing body for safety in British Columbia. 366 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:39.079 Oh okay, is that just a BC thing? 367 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.480 I don't work safe British Columbia. Oh duh, No, most 368 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:47.359 people deal with OSHA. Okay, yeah, Occupational Safety and Health Association. 369 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:49.200 What is Nicole saying? 370 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.119 Pretty much? I know these things because I'm a safety go. 371 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:53.000 You're a safety man. 372 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:57.319 Yeah. So anyways, back onto this, we digress. We're not 373 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.319 going to be covering any of those cases, but we 374 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.160 are going to be tallalking about something, and it is 375 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:06.559 that there was apparently a suicide that occurred on set, okay, 376 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:13.079 and how that suicide kind of came to light. It's 377 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:18.119 kind of fucked up. So apparently the individual's corpse was 378 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.880 accidentally left in a shot and then put into the 379 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.559 final product of the film. 380 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:27.200 Ohly, shit, that's terrible. 381 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:31.039 So you watch the film, you can see someone's deceased 382 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:33.599 corpse who had committed suicide. 383 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:34.480 Oh my gosh. 384 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.839 Okay, so we're watching The Wizard of Oz later, like 385 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:38.759 I need to see that. 386 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:41.319 Well, the scene in question is at the very end 387 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:43.960 of the tin Man sequence. It says Dorothy and the 388 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.279 Scarecrow and the tin Men are headed down the yellow 389 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:50.240 Brick Road to head towards the Emerald City. Okay, However, 390 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.559 as they march off down the infamous brick Road, in 391 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.000 the far background of the set, it shows a dark 392 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:01.119 and dimly lit wooded area. Now, if you look closely 393 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:04.720 between the trees, there is a silhouetted figure that can 394 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:08.920 be seen, and that silhouette appears to be a little 395 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:11.319 person who played one of the roles of the Munchkins 396 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.559 in the film, and they are hanging by the neck 397 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.319 and swinging lightly back and forth in the trees. 398 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:25.079 Okay, I just have to say, if that's true, that's terrible. Yeah, 399 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.960 And like, did they not think to just like re 400 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.279 record or they just it wasn't noted. 401 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:32.839