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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Tim Duckworth, a shirtless, mullet wearing, mustache growing Tim Duckworth. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>We have plans to do this podcast on video this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Your god, those plans are followed through with because y'all

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<v Speaker 1>need to see this bogan ass on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the screen. I mean, it is absolutely incredible, absolutely impeccable, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought the heat. I guess quickish episode today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a bunch of episodes in the hopper that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be firing at you guys rather quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>so expect that. Now we are a week away from

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series of Poker. Today is Tuesday, May twentieth.

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<v Speaker 1>Next Tuesday, it's WSP timeb today. I know Tim went

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<v Speaker 1>down to Horseshoe and he did his whole WSP plus

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<v Speaker 1>verification process, so we're gonna talk about that. I want

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<v Speaker 1>his first hand experience, boots on the f and ground reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know how it went. We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We released our plans for the summer streaming schedule as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to poker gh so we can inform you

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<v Speaker 1>guys on what to expect there. The first cold bracelet

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty five was already one if you can

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. Maybe you missed the news, maybe you didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna find out

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<v Speaker 1>what Sean Deep does with his gold bracelets, which was interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>something that I didn't know until an article dropped from

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<v Speaker 1>Poker News and then listen, we got to fact check

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<v Speaker 1>our guy Alex foxon it be done. I'm sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it on the episode. I got a bone to pick,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? WASB plus verification, loading money, doing the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You went down to horseshoe, you got verified to talk

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<v Speaker 1>me through it. How did it go? Was it a breeze?

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<v Speaker 1>What were the hiccups? I want to know it all.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not done it yet, and I'm sure many

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<v Speaker 1>people out there haven't done it yet, so what can

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<v Speaker 1>they expect to go through this process?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was pretty simple. I was probably been the

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<v Speaker 2>first one to do it. I was there pretty early

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<v Speaker 2>on opening.

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<v Speaker 1>Day giving you a number.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a little commemorative coin or something. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple GG Poker representatives down there just hanging out. But

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<v Speaker 2>the main thing is Paris Main cage for at least

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<v Speaker 2>another few more days. Middle of the casino, basically right

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<v Speaker 2>under one of the Eiffel Tower legs. And I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the cage. They were just like on that side, please,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking I was cashing out or something. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do the WSP app. She goes, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>come here. Gave them my player's card. I gave them

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<v Speaker 2>my ID, told them my six digit WSP plus app number.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, you can find that in your app. They

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<v Speaker 2>basically linked it asked me if I wanted to deposit

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<v Speaker 2>any money, and I said, yes, here you go. Here

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<v Speaker 2>is twenty five hundred dollars, which I believe is the minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know that at the time, so lucky I.

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<v Speaker 1>Brought again, this makes no sense five hundred when you

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<v Speaker 1>have events that are three hundred dollars. Yeah, but hot, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so hold on, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can withdraw it. You could deposit twenty five hundred play

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<v Speaker 2>the Gladiator is bike out twenty Let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you're and I don't know. I'm possibly I

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<v Speaker 1>might not be asking you. I might just be asking

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, but maybe you have answers or insights here.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone needs that. It is to be plus app.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how all of this is done. Yet they have

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<v Speaker 1>buy ins that are three hundred dollars five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't just buy into the Gladiators for three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars via the app. You have to put twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars on. That seems like quite a large disconnect,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if the messaging out there is everyone needs this app.

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<v Speaker 1>Get this app. This is how you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>through that whole registration process. I mean, and the coss

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<v Speaker 1>is specifically, there's eighteen thousand people in that damn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how many people are going to show up with

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred or six hundred or nine hundred dollars not

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred and be like, hey, I want to play?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well you need twenty five hundred to play. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that that can't be a thing. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that can't be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we've kind of touched on this before,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, just to finish my experience pretty quick,

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<v Speaker 2>money was in the account, I could go buy into

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<v Speaker 2>the mister millions, so that was fine. But no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>did you No, I'm only playing the main event. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>only playing the main event. Okay, let's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how are you gonna play the minium? Ever for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred dollars? Buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>I got seventy five hundred more common eventually. But another

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<v Speaker 2>poker player there brace the winner and PGT title winner

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<v Speaker 2>David Fonkauser looking for a W two from last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So who's obviously a little late on his taxes? Sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to call you out, David. I asked him. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you here for the WSP plus up as well?

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, what's that? So I was like, great,

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<v Speaker 2>so explain a bit to him and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have to use that. And as he was

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<v Speaker 2>getting his self verified for you know, finding w two

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<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff, the cage manager was there, so

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<v Speaker 2>he was kind of converse with, you know, between us three,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, well, what do you think of this?

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<v Speaker 2>And I say, well, it's going to be a problem

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<v Speaker 2>for the seniors event because not everyone has an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 2>not everyone has a phone, so that's kind of a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And he basically hinted that, you know, for those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of emergency situations, will have a workaround. So my prediction

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<v Speaker 2>is that if there will be potentially maybe one line,

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<v Speaker 2>you know in the registration area over on Paris once

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<v Speaker 2>the WSP starts, that's for like cash only, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so slow that people will basically say,

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<v Speaker 2>I never want to do this again. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>load up my WSP app in all these other lines

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<v Speaker 2>that are available so that I don't do experience that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is my prediction, and you know, I'm guessing, mister

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<v Speaker 2>million is we're going to have someone without an iPhone.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have people without twenty five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on them. You know, they only have a thousand to

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<v Speaker 2>just play one bullet. You know, what are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to do? I'm assuming maybe they'll bring down the minimums

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<v Speaker 2>as well. You're right, we both have kind of discussed

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<v Speaker 2>this last year with Bravo. The minimum should be really

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<v Speaker 2>what the minimum buying of any event at the World

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<v Speaker 2>Series is, and it actually should be less than three hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be two fifty for the two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty Deep Stacks, right, if you're trying to get everyone

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<v Speaker 2>under this app and everyone registered Deep Stacks is supposed,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, Yeah, you can well Bravo last year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming for WSP plus you can as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>you should if you really want everyone on this app,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to make essentially the minimum deposit one dollar, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there should be no minimum, There should be no maximum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I don't see why there is a minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it should just be the stone lowest. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>one dollar. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>My only thought is that it just kind of X

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<v Speaker 2>reduces the amount of times you have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the cage and therefore reduces potential future lines. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some people are only going to put a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand at a time or five hundred at a time. This

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<v Speaker 2>way kind of saves them a few visits and that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, saves a little bit of traffic in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my only guess is why they're doing them that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, you know, just just thinking ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>future years, not even you know, later on this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but future years. Like I don't and I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is even possible or if you could

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<v Speaker 1>ever get to this point that you know, there should

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<v Speaker 1>just be various kiosks around where I can go up

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<v Speaker 1>to them. There's probably a barcode scanner on them. I

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<v Speaker 1>can pull up a barcode on my w s AP

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<v Speaker 1>plus app, which then like basically logs me into the kiosk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I can just stick cash into the kiosk, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of like having to actually go to a cage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you just have those everywhere all over the

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<v Speaker 1>property and then people can just you know, put more

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<v Speaker 1>money in or whatever as they go. So, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if there are people that are like okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a thousand, then I'll do a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>in three weeks or whatever it might be. They just

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<v Speaker 1>don't constantly have to go up to a cage, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't test it like I Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>deposited with cold hard American USD and you can obviously

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<v Speaker 2>to positivey other methods. There is a method for AH

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bank transfer. It's credit cards. There's there

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<v Speaker 2>is an option for WSP dot com, so that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of interests me. Does that mean I can transfer my

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<v Speaker 2>WSP dot com balance across I think that's quite good,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you're cashing out. So there are other methods

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to go and deposit cash. Once you

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<v Speaker 2>verify and verify that your method, that's the best way.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't planning on doing PayPal. I wasn't planning on

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<v Speaker 2>using a credit card or anything like that, so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really worry about any of that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, I probably should have just set them

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<v Speaker 2>all up just to see what that experience was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Any idea on if you get payouts through the app,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, I mean that would be ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>Ideally, yes, you think of the lines for like the classes,

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<v Speaker 2>when you cash out, you to go stand in that

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I have experienced that in a while, but

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<v Speaker 2>standing that payout line, you can see it wrapping, snaking

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<v Speaker 2>around powers or horseshoe wherever they're doing the payouts. So

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<v Speaker 2>you would hope that, you know, you could just be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you finished in eight hundredth place, he is eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars coming into your account. You know, go get it

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you want so you can just move on to

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<v Speaker 2>the next event.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a version of this before using the Bravo TBIIC,

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<v Speaker 1>but it it wasn't exactly the most efficient process in

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<v Speaker 1>my because you bust out of a tournament, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go immediately stand in like this first line in

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament room. Yes, with your little ticket that says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ninety sixth place, and you get up to

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<v Speaker 1>the counter. You give them your idea, your player's card

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<v Speaker 1>and the ticket. They basically log you into the system

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<v Speaker 1>right there, and they always tell you, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do this first. You cannot skip this

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<v Speaker 1>you into the system to then go collect your payout

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<v Speaker 1>in the payout room whenever you want. So you do

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<v Speaker 1>then later on you go into the payout room, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which oftentimes, like you know, if I like I've cashed

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<v Speaker 1>I'll stand in this first line and then but I

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<v Speaker 1>won't go get my payout right away. I said. You

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<v Speaker 1>go to the payout room and there's a bazillion people

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<v Speaker 1>all summer. I'll go at a different day whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when you eventually go into that room and you

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<v Speaker 1>they say to you, or they said to you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you want your payout? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want cash? You want chips? Do you want it

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<v Speaker 1>in your wsip TBIC account. So I'm assuming there you

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<v Speaker 1>would get just a replacement of wysip plus app versus

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<v Speaker 1>the most ideal thing both on the player side, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from like a player efficiency standpoint and a customer service standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>and then also from the business side, is that when

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<v Speaker 1>you like go through that first line and you basically

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<v Speaker 1>get assigned to whatever place you finish it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>should just default to go into your WASITP account, WSP

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<v Speaker 1>plus account. And the reason why I say that from

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<v Speaker 1>a bit on the one side, it's it's just good

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<v Speaker 1>customer service. That's the most streamlined thing. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have multiple lines all this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>On the business side, you should want people to just

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<v Speaker 1>have money in the bank at all times because then

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<v Speaker 1>they're likely to just fire again. Yeah, like that's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well I just cast for two thousand and it's on

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<v Speaker 1>this ws P plus app. Well, this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funny money, right now, Let's go, let's find the next tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>what's next, you know, let's just let's just fire it

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<v Speaker 1>in there, Versus if I go somewhere, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get the money, then I have to put it back in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm guessing that's going to be the case. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, some of this stuff we're just

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<v Speaker 2>My thought is that that first part of your story,

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<v Speaker 2>the first line, that may we may have lost that bot,

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<v Speaker 2>but going and cashing out may still exist. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of my theory that if they're using tablets, if

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<v Speaker 2>the flaws are busting people, that they'll bust people from

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<v Speaker 2>the tablet. You won't need to line up, you won't

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<v Speaker 2>need to standing in that queue just to assign your

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<v Speaker 2>name to the place and then go standing on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, would you just have like one,

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody and like that person pulls up the barcode

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<v Speaker 1>on their app, you scan it in, you type in

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six place, okay, boom that that all is done, done,

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<v Speaker 1>see you later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think overall that the do basitv plus app

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<v Speaker 1>and the integration of it for the twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>DOBSIP is I think it's going to very much streamline everything,

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<v Speaker 1>make everything much more efficient, and it's going to ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>create a better experience for both players and for the

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<v Speaker 1>operations and the operations are important because the more the

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<v Speaker 1>things are streamlined on that front, the better everything runs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the front side of everything. Now, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say that also, there's probably gonna be some headaches and

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<v Speaker 1>some obstacles and some hiccups here and there and growing

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<v Speaker 1>pains and whatever. I get it, you know. So, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think ultimately like this is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty awesome overall, just in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>making everything faster, and the faster these guys can get

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<v Speaker 1>butts and seats for everything, whether that's initial entries, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that's re entries. It's yes, on the business side, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more revenue for them, I get it. But on the

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<v Speaker 1>player side, it's bigger fields, bigger prize pools, bigger payouts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all that sort of stuff. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>if you can do this at any like Caesar's Venue

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<v Speaker 1>or is it just Paris Horseshoe or.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's just Paris. And that's what I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about the other day with Caesars opening the Poke Room,

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<v Speaker 2>planning Hollywood opening the Poke Room, definitely makes sense for

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<v Speaker 2>this to be part of the Caesars family of properties

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<v Speaker 2>here in Las Vegas and essentially why not all across

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<v Speaker 2>the country. You know, if you're in Tunica, Mississippi or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever else is the Caesars and you're coming here, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to bring fifty k cash, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to deposit it on my wsp AT

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<v Speaker 2>while home travel, you know, either I'm driving or flying

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<v Speaker 2>without that cash and without that burden of having to

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<v Speaker 2>watch that money and then go stop playing WSOP events.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one thing I'd probably suggest for future use.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously there's going to be some finance and accounting issues there,

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<v Speaker 2>but property to property, it's, as we've been told a little,

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<v Speaker 2>a little easier for that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, it sounds like everything went well with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not done it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to do it, do it quickly, real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that like thread about the credit cards

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<v Speaker 2>that I chimed in on yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but let me let me say that I heard

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gamble Up podcast with Adam Schwartz and David

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<v Speaker 1>od b Baker that one of their mutual friends, Terrence Chan,

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<v Speaker 1>who lives in Canada, did the whole plus thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe deposited or registered or whatever with a credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no fee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's the thing. Right now, they're saying there's

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<v Speaker 2>no fees, which is you know, it's promoted that way

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<v Speaker 2>on the website. It's hard to believe that there would

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<v Speaker 2>be no three percent vge like there has been in

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<v Speaker 2>previous years, but a lot of players are taking advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Poker dot Org's Terrence Reid was one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it started a thread. You know, Steph Chung who

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<v Speaker 2>plays out PGT events, basically like what is the gto

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<v Speaker 2>you know, credit card to use here? And people A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of people are responding, and I kind of chimed in, knowing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a little bit about financing credit cards, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just the credit card you use, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to think of like new credit cards, sign up bonuses.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, any suggestions, best I can find is

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<v Speaker 2>two percent cash back. So I obviously did not spend

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<v Speaker 2>that much time doing this. I quickly looked. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to AMX because they have the most craziest ones. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get thirty five percent rake back, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>let me explain. Let's say she a PLO player.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say she let me before you say anything, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not financial I want to make sure that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting in any trouble. This is not financial advice.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also want to make it clear that the

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<v Speaker 1>guy talking is the guy with the Australian accent, not

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<v Speaker 1>the guy with the American accents. Have you blame the boat? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she's going to buy into the ten K PLO Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ten thousand dollars if you open up the new

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<v Speaker 2>Amex Platinum Card. Six hundred and ninety five dollars fee.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds extravagant, sounds like a lot. I know, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay for

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<v Speaker 2>twelve months. Now, if you spend eight thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>the first there's like a certain amount of period. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>obviously do that. With the ten K you receive an

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<v Speaker 2>upgraded one hundred and seventy five thousand Amex membership points, which,

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<v Speaker 2>depending how you redeem them, is value between seventeen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and like thirty five hundred dollars. So let's just say

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<v Speaker 2>you redeem them as efficient as possible. We're getting thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred dollars back. Now, let's take off the seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollar fee. Okay, now we're down to twenty eight hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>but you get a two hundred dollar hotel credit, a

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars airline credit, a two hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars digital entertainment credit, one hundred and fifty dollars Walmart credit,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars zuper cash. You also get the one

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<v Speaker 2>X points, which is not as good some other cards,

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<v Speaker 2>but look at all the other sign up bonuses, so

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<v Speaker 2>basically it equates to thirty five percent ish rakeback. Now

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<v Speaker 2>conditions apply as always, I didn't read any of the conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these new sign up bonuses are like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to hit certain categ like spend in each category

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or spend a minimum in each category. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe she needs to go buy a pack of gum

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<v Speaker 2>at the Shell service station and then you know, buy

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<v Speaker 2>a Starbucks coffee. But in a nutshell, you could potentially

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<v Speaker 2>get thirty five percent rake back on one tournament. Who

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<v Speaker 2>knows if it will work out, but hey, there is

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<v Speaker 2>ways to gain a little bit out there until the fee.

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<v Speaker 2>The three percent fees are at it. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>use a normal credit card, like you know, you and

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<v Speaker 2>me have an out wallet we're probably getting three percent

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<v Speaker 2>or five percent cash back. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard them say on the gamble of podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>there was no fee, and immediately I was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm buying into the main event this year on my

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<v Speaker 1>credit card because I get points, right. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as exorbitant as as the bonus that you were mentioning,

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<v Speaker 1>But still, like, why if it's no credit card fee,

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<v Speaker 1>if that is truly true, then why would I not

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'll just take the ten k cash that

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<v Speaker 1>I have and snap pay off my like literally as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as it hits the statement, I will just pay

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<v Speaker 1>off that that part of it, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I get those those bonus points or bonus dollars or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. So I don't know why, like,

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<v Speaker 1>literally everyone wouldn't be taking advantage of that. Now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're prone to possibly letting credit card

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<v Speaker 1>bills getting out of control and you don't attack them

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<v Speaker 1>right away and all that sort of stuff, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it, just do the cash route. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I also thought that, you know, kind of because because

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<v Speaker 1>I started thinking of the same thing that you were

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of, I didn't see that thread but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of still thinking, like, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously an advantage point for a lot of people to

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get additional bonuses, dollars, points, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it may be. You know, why doesn't doubs be plus?

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<v Speaker 1>Just build that in like if you if you put

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<v Speaker 1>them enough money on or you start playing enough tournaments

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, you kind of build up like

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<v Speaker 1>points and then you can, you know, eventually you can

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<v Speaker 1>turn those points into I don't know, a tournament entry,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can turn you know, turn them into a

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<v Speaker 1>food voucher or whatever it may be. Now, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be anything you know, as crazy as like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, initial credit card offers are. But you could

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<v Speaker 1>do some sort of small kickback for the players, right

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<v Speaker 1>and just again just to really entice people to to

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<v Speaker 1>use the app and to use it more often. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be That could be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could do something also with the Seasons

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<v Speaker 2>credit card. You know, I'm looking at that sign on

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<v Speaker 2>page right now. You get ten thousand world credits, five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand tier credits if you spend five K, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get upgraded to Platinum, some other bonuses. But you

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<v Speaker 2>could have it built into a Caesar's credit card, so

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<v Speaker 2>you get people signing up there and basically get them

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<v Speaker 2>to give the benefits to the WSP PLUS players that

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<v Speaker 2>use that credit card to sign up. So you could

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<v Speaker 2>really make this like a whole all encompassing project with

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely again not financial advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Not financial advice.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on research of course, figure out your own.

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<v Speaker 1>We have officially rolled out the red carpet for this

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<v Speaker 1>summer's WSOP coverage, and you know it's it's I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably what you expected, but it's also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like similar to at least last year. There's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be daily Wall the Wall live streams starting May thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>first daily broadcasts of the WISPY main event from Day

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<v Speaker 1>one A all the way till the final hand is

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<v Speaker 1>dealt on July sixteenth. There's a whole bunch of different

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<v Speaker 1>bracelet events that are front and center some of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest that are on the schedule are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>front and center on the Poker gro streaming schedule once again,

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<v Speaker 1>a very big push from our team here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really the only place that you can get this

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<v Speaker 1>level of coverage for one poker series. So it is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be split up, you know, between poker Go

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<v Speaker 1>the platform and then the Poker Goro YouTube channel. So

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to get one hundred percent of everything

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously become a Poker Grow subscriber. Yes, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>hit on that a little bit more in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>So the headlining thing is a daily coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>Waspmion event in July second, I believe it is, second

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<v Speaker 1>through the sixteenth. There's also going to be more than

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<v Speaker 1>two dozen additional bracelet events that are going to be highlighted,

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<v Speaker 1>including the fifty k PPC, which at least right now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, all this comes with, you know, subject to change,

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<v Speaker 1>because bazillion things change every single day at the World

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<v Speaker 1>Series of Poker, but fifty k PPC we're planning multiple

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<v Speaker 1>days of coverage once again. We're also planning multiple days

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<v Speaker 1>of coverage for the two hundred and fifty k Super

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<v Speaker 1>high Roller we got one hundred thousand dollars high Roller

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<v Speaker 1>on the schedule. You got the new twenty five k

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan Hold Them Slash Plo half and half high Roller

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<v Speaker 1>that's on there. We got the twenty five k heads Up,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the Ladies Championship, Mystery Millions, Monster Stack, Millionmaker Colossus.

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<v Speaker 1>So so pretty much everything it is, it is weighted

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<v Speaker 1>towards Nolamit hold Them. You know, I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>has been some pushback out there from a select handful

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<v Speaker 1>of people about that specifically, and I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about the pushback. I mean, listen, no one does

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<v Speaker 1>more mixed game coverage than poker go in a calendar year.

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<v Speaker 1>No one. It's not even remotely close. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>the mixed game tournaments at the DO RESIP are an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute logistical nightmare from a streaming perspective, just because it's

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<v Speaker 1>they take too long. They go to you know, additional

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<v Speaker 1>days like it's just a lot. Okay, of course, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>try and work them in where we can. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the best things that we do, in my opinion, is

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<v Speaker 1>the multiple day coverage of the fifty k PPC. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't just get the final table you're likely going

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<v Speaker 1>to get days three, four, and then five, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>really good. And then you know, if big names make things,

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<v Speaker 1>things can change around and we'll do what we can.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also listen the masses, like the Nolamitt hold

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<v Speaker 1>them exactly. We see the numbers, like, what what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want us to say? I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>every year we get yelled at about not doing mix

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<v Speaker 1>game coverage, Yet we see the numbers and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys don't feel I feel like you're not showing

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<v Speaker 1>up to the streams because the numbers aren't on par

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<v Speaker 1>with the other stuff. So let's just just want to

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<v Speaker 1>get that little little rant out of the way. I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned poker Goro and the poker Goro YouTube channel, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would certainly say, you know, subscribe to poker Grow

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me. So, you know, it's a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time to uh, to get in there to become a

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<v Speaker 1>so basically the price of one coffee. Come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go all right. Thoughts on the streaming schedule, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're the you're the puzzle person. You. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you put this thing together. It's a it's a giant puzzle,

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<v Speaker 1>is really what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's you know, obviously relying on where WSP puts

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<v Speaker 2>their events. Some events with just handcuff we can't show

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<v Speaker 2>and some were kind of have to show. And we

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<v Speaker 2>know what we you know, we we know we want

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<v Speaker 2>to do the fifty k. We know we want to

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<v Speaker 2>do the two fifty and then we kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>in the pieces around that and it is very no limit,

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<v Speaker 2>hold them heavy. But I think that's fine. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a decent you know schedule. We have those six

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<v Speaker 2>days of non final table coverage, which is always I

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<v Speaker 2>think very popular for both the players and also the

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<v Speaker 2>fans at home. So you know, we're doing day two

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<v Speaker 2>coverage of the twenty five K hi Roller, fifty K

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<v Speaker 2>high Roller, one hundred K high Roller, and two fifty

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<v Speaker 2>K high Roller, so you know, you want to come

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<v Speaker 2>see the best in the world battle it out on

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<v Speaker 2>day two in of the money and then towards the

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<v Speaker 2>final table you got to come to Poker Go and

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<v Speaker 2>then obviously like you touched on day three and four

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<v Speaker 2>of the PPC before the final table. So there's all that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have some new events on that we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't done before. We have the twenty five K half

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<v Speaker 2>and half you mentioned, you know, we're doing the one

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<v Speaker 2>K Battle of Ages they're both new events for this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and for the first time, we're doing the the three

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<v Speaker 2>K nine game mat mix a little you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>little lead into the PPC, and then we also have

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<v Speaker 2>the Seniors high Roller which also which could be a

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic event. I'm looking forward to that one. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some new events, some classic ones. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>great summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I still care believe they don't call it the Mini PPC.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's touch a layer, it is it really is

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<v Speaker 1>for an operation that loves the gimmicks. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just it's the layup of all layers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we you know, along with these you know,

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<v Speaker 2>marquee events, these these high roller events, we've also got

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<v Speaker 2>ones where we're going to see people turn you know,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred dollars, one thousand dollars, five hundred dollars into

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<v Speaker 2>millions potentially. We have that one K Mystery Millions, we

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<v Speaker 2>have the one point five k million maker, we have

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteen hundred months to stack. We have that three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred gladiators of pokers. So you're not going to get

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<v Speaker 2>unlikely to see the day on the grandos and feel

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<v Speaker 2>helmeless at that table. But it's gonna be great. There's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be big, a big first prize, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>probably amateur poker players at that at those final tables,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's going to be I think those streams are

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<v Speaker 2>always the best ones to watch in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love I love those ones, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I love it all, don't get me wrong. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the massive ROI tournaments, the small buying,

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<v Speaker 1>huge score, massive fields, you know where you get the

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<v Speaker 1>complete unknowns that the guys that are really chasing their dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's really what it's about for me. So

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, incredible stuff. I mean, I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as glued to it as possible as

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<v Speaker 1>you and I always are. And yeah, I can't wait,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely cannot wait. So become a prot Grow subscriber today

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<v Speaker 1>and tell them we sent you, because then it looks

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<v Speaker 1>good on us. All right, first gold bracelet of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five has actually already been awarded. Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I did? Of course you did. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was joking it goes to a guy who started the

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<v Speaker 1>final table near the bottom of the ship counts in

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<v Speaker 1>the event. And the event was the Doubyssip Tournament of

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<v Speaker 1>Champions and it's Kevin Lee, a Canadian player. He qualified

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<v Speaker 1>via the WYSSIP circuit. He ran it up over at

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<v Speaker 1>Commerce Casino and won the TOC for in even two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars. This is a million dollar free roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's around eleven hundred or twelve hundred possible

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<v Speaker 1>players that can play in it. I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I heard or saw or whatever. But ultimately four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty five entries played in it, So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent value if you're one of the players that

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<v Speaker 1>actually made the trek to La to Commerce Casino to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Kevin Lee two hundred k up top. He

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<v Speaker 1>defeated Sean Rice in second place, Don Don Don Chiaglo,

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<v Speaker 1>third place, Danny Seppiel we all know him, fourth place,

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<v Speaker 1>Kara pet Galassian the fifth place, Maxwell Young's Yang Zoo seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Lemmer eighth, and then Scott Stewart WPT World Championship winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Stewart finished in ninth place. You know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those names there you probably don't recognize, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this event is really about. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>it's mostly about like the WSB circuit grinders, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of these guys don't get the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>shine in the spotlight, but this is kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for them to do so. At the final table,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee entered as one of the short sacks. He ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>doubled through Galistean. I think it was king nine versus

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<v Speaker 1>a eight. He had a king on the turn. I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading the updates over at poker dot org. Hit

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<v Speaker 1>a king on the turn despite Galstian floppingion eight, and

623
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>then ended up doubling from there. Seemed to kind of

624
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 1>be the turning point for him. He went on to

625
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 1>eliminate a bunch of players, he gets heads up with

626
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Sean Rice, He's able to close it out. He did

627
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 1>mention afterwards that he felt that it was a real

628
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 1>blessing for him to be there. This was a streamed

629
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>event on where was it on the Bally's stream channel

630
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube? I can't remember exactly, but it was stream

631
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>so if you want to check it out, you can

632
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 1>go check it out for sure. And yeah, it ultimately

633
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the first bracelet of the twenty twenty five DOBASIP season,

634
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>which you know sets the tone for everything that is

635
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>to come. Again, we are a week out from the WASP.

636
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Lee won this a couple of days ago out

637
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 1>at Commerce, So I'm gonna throw things to you, sir.

638
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Where do you think the TOC stands in terms of prestige?

639
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, is it a real bracelet event in your eyes?

640
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a conversation about that. You know, is

641
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>it just basically a free roll with a glorified trophy?

642
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Should it give away a bracelet?

643
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Like?

644
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 1>What are your overall thoughts on this event?

645
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely a bracelet. I mean they're going to give

646
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 2>bracelets out to this fit like to events in Pennsylvania,

647
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 2>then this is definitely a bracelet. Has a lost some prestige,

648
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess compared to what it used to be, Yes,

649
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 2>But as you mentioned, it's mainly circuit players from all

650
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>around the country, all around the world, So this is

651
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 2>probably pretty cool event to be a part up and

652
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>something that they, you know, strive to qualify for throughout

653
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 2>their season, just like we talk about the PGT Championship.

654
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>It's the same kind of concept. We know our players

655
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 2>really want to make and qualify for that. And I

656
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 2>would assume the four hundred and eighty five entrants have

657
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>played this, we're all like excited to play and you know,

658
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>firstly qualify and then and then head down to commerce

659
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>to play. So I think there's still some prestige. It's no,

660
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not the same as it used to be, even

661
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>when it was at you know, at the end of

662
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the World Series in Vegas. But I still think there's

663
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with it. I think it serves its purpose,

664
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>which is rewarding mainly the circuit grinders out there.

665
00:33:58.519 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, listen, if they want to give out

666
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a bracelet for this one, go for it, you know.

667
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And then I would also say that if they say

668
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the bracelet counts, then it counts. Let's just get that

669
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>out of the way. That's just the nature of the beast.

670
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's it's somewhat of a gimmicky type

671
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 1>of bracelet that to attach it to this. I do

672
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the fact that the circuit grinders get this as

673
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>as kind of that that treasure at the end of

674
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 1>the rainbow, like that they can go for, they can play,

675
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, they can compete in all that sort of stuff. Ultimately,

676
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 1>I just think it should be at the divisipy. I mean,

677
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 1>that's my my next question to you is, you know,

678
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 1>do you like that it's held at Commerce? Does it

679
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>help or hurt it?

680
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Like?

681
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts there?

682
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the one option is getting down at nine

683
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to eight or seven, whatever number you want, and then

684
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>doing doing the delay and finishing it at the World

685
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Series on May first, the May nine, or the May seven.

686
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it's in Vegas, not too but you know,

687
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously they have a partnership with Combas Casino. They're trying

688
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to make that the concluding season ending stop, and it

689
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>does make sense to have the TOC there, whether you know,

690
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>we really like it or not.

691
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So my question to you is, I guess I

692
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of questions. One, why do you need

693
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the TOC to be part of this season ending stop?

694
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Can't you obviously if there's some sort of financial aspect

695
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>between the two partners, which they're likely is I feel

696
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.679
<v Speaker 1>like you can still achieve that by just having a

697
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 1>w SP circuit stop, Like you don't need the Tournament

698
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 1>of Champions there. Yeah, but then I would think.

699
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Players want go to commerce to play the other events.

700
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, but like you're still Commerce always draws

701
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>very well. It's la like it's gonna draw very well

702
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>if you put together a good schedule events, you have

703
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>a decent guarantee, Like ultimately, I think it's gonna draw.

704
00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't think getting you know, twenty five people from

705
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Vegas to you know, Chrek out there, like the Jeremy

706
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Becker's of the world, really is going to affect their

707
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 1>bottom line all that much. I just I just don't

708
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>think so.

709
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest issue they really have is the

710
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 2>announcement of this event. World Series came out in what

711
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>was it, late February. Here's the schedule, you know how

712
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>people act, okay and book here are the events I play.

713
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I need one hundred and twenty five thousand. I'm going

714
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to fly out this date, come back this date. When

715
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>you delay the announcement of this which was you know

716
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>that happened in the last two years, and it's significantly earlier,

717
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>you know than the World Series, pretty much nearly two

718
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>weeks earlier, people aren't going to travel the BRACEI of

719
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 2>winners from Europe or from South America or even people

720
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 2>here in the United States on the East Coast or

721
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 2>down in Florida wherever it is. Do they really want

722
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>to come to LA fly back or do they want

723
00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>to come to LA and then find accommodation for a

724
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>week and start the World Series. So a little bit

725
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>more harmony in the announcements would go a long way.

726
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Or essentially, you know, there's no reason why you couldn't

727
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>play this this weekend, so it's literally on the doorstep

728
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 2>of the WSP so that you know you can get

729
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone coming in for the weekend playing this World Series

730
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 2>starts on Tuesday. I think you mentioned there was what

731
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 2>six hundred people that didn't play this event that qualified.

732
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>That would probably go a long way to getting some

733
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>percentage of those six hundred to participate in the TOC,

734
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 2>because in a perfect world, they want everyone playing, just

735
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>like for our PGT Championship, we want everyone playing. But

736
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 2>things come off with people, so you have to do

737
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 2>what you can to try and make that happen.

738
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I understand. On one hand, you know,

739
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 1>you get a fresh audience, change of venue. I personally

740
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.039
<v Speaker 1>love Commerce. I think it's iconic with a lot of

741
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>courts and everything. I just you know, I like it.

742
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I like the grungy aspect of it all. You know,

743
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I just I always have it was.

744
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of it is just nostalgia. You know.

745
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 1>It was such a big venue on the poker scene,

746
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, be it paired with the WPTL Poker Classic

747
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 1>for so long. You know, it was like, oh my gosh,

748
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>this is commerce. Not only does it have this massive

749
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>World Poker Tour tournament that you know when we were

750
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of all getting into poker, was you know, forefront

751
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of all like TV and all that sort of stuff,

752
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 1>but also like it was home to some of these

753
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 1>big crazy cash games and all that sort of stuff.

754
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>So I just I like that aspect of it, right.

755
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>You know. Obviously there's a financial element at play here,

756
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>probably with with you know, Caesar Slash w c AP

757
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 1>and and Commerce, so you have that aspect, But I

758
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>still think you can check many of those boxes by

759
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>just having like a robust, essentially season ending WSIP circuit

760
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 1>stop at Commerce and then just keep the TOC in

761
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Vegas and then I guess a quick aside here, the

762
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>whole season ending thing is also a little bit silly

763
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>because you have an event going on in Southern Indiana

764
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So I don't even understand. You

765
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 1>have the Commerce WSIP circuit event from May eighth to

766
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.119
<v Speaker 1>May twenty fourth, but then you have a Caesar Southern

767
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Indiana one from May eighth to nineteen, So I don't

768
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand how that really works out, like and

769
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>why you would ever do that, Like I would, I

770
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>would blow something up at Commerce right, Like, listen, this

771
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 1>is the this is the season ending event and the

772
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 1>marketing pitch. If you're worried about for example, you know

773
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 1>you said maybe they're worried about getting those players to

774
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>travel out there, Well how about just positioning it is

775
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>this is your final chance to qualify for the TOC

776
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 1>That's the pitch. You know, maybe you slap maybe every

777
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, every circuit event has what a sixteen hundred

778
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 1>dollars buying, Maybe this one's twenty five hunt you know

779
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 1>for the end, and yeah, you can have some other

780
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 1>events on the schedule too. I think Commerce and that

781
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>market that region can certainly handle a very robust schedule.

782
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Slap a little bit of a bigger guarantee on it,

783
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>like you could go twenty five one hundred and five

784
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 1>million guarantee. I think you could hit with that for

785
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>sure in La Let's go, I think that that could

786
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 1>certainly work, So do something like that. I think having

787
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it in Vegas is just you get more shine, more

788
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 1>spotlight on the event. I think the idea of like

789
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>essentially winning a trip to Vegas like in a way,

790
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I know you ultimately still have to travel there and whatever,

791
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 1>but like, there is only a small group of the

792
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.239
<v Speaker 1>community that wins the exclusive right to play in this tournament,

793
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 1>So why not do that in Vegas, which then ultimately

794
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 1>like you get some of those people to fire more

795
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff in Vegas at the doubasp. So I think I

796
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 1>think it just feels disconnected to me, you know, I

797
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>would rather kind of all be in Vegas. Like, you know,

798
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really see too much coverage of this, you know,

799
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it took wasop dot com didn't have a winter story

800
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>up for a day or two, like poker dot Org

801
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>was the only one that had a winter story up

802
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 1>about the Kevin Lee winning it. You know. It's also

803
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.639
<v Speaker 1>to me it seems a little bit weird that you

804
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.199
<v Speaker 1>have the TOC, but then the Tournament of Champions or sorry,

805
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you have the TOC and then the regular main event

806
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>at Commerce finishes out, It's like, I don't, I don't

807
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of understand. I mean, like you can throw out

808
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the idea of a season ending event, but is it

809
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>really ending the season because I don't is it not?

810
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

811
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. It's kind of just confusing

812
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and disconnected to me. So I would I would move

813
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.039
<v Speaker 1>it to Vegas. I would make kind of a celebration

814
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>of the whole thing, you know, do it up really big,

815
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, make sure that it was streamed out of Vegas,

816
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 1>because I think that, you know, you would want to

817
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 1>make it so that those people get their quote unquote

818
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes in the spotlight that make the final table.

819
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So I would try and do all those sorts of

820
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 1>things versus just kind of in a way, ushering it

821
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 1>off over here in La at Commerce. I also do

822
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>think if it is in Vegas, you're going to get

823
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>more people in it, right, you know, like you said,

824
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>people people might be like, Okay, I'm going to Vegas

825
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.679
<v Speaker 1>for six weeks. Now I got to make this trip

826
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to LA I mean, okay, I'll pass on that and

827
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll just I'll just go to Vegas, like I would

828
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>be curious to know how many of those people there

829
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 1>are there are out there. So so yeah, those are

830
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>our thoughts on the TOC and congratulations to Kevin Lee,

831
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>first bracelet winner of twenty twenty five. All right, speaking

832
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of bracelets, did you know that Sean Deeb gives away

833
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:24.039
<v Speaker 1>all of his bracelets?

834
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that I knew he gave away bracelets.

835
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he had given away all his bracelets.

836
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did not know until there was an article

837
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 1>that dropped recently on pokernews dot com. Chad Holloway, a

838
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>friend of ours, did the article. He spoke with Sean

839
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Deeb and yeah, Sean deep is a six time DISSIP

840
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Gold bracelet winner. The twenty twenty five DOASIP is right

841
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>around the corner, so you know he's one of the

842
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>favorites of course to add to his tally, And he

843
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>chatted with Chad and you know, of poker News to

844
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>explain why he's given away every single bracelet that he's won.

845
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was kind of shocked. I read the

846
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>story and I thought it was also kind of cool.

847
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's given him away to family, to close friends.

848
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Most recently, I think he gave the one away in

849
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the honor of his really good friend and the late

850
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Theyer Rasmussen. You know, his bracelet recipients include his grandma, wife, dad, uncle,

851
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 1>friend battling cancer. All this was was in the story,

852
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.199
<v Speaker 1>of course, the one that he gave in honor of

853
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the late theyer Rasmussen went to Thayer's family and then

854
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 1>it actually turns out that I believe Thayer's mom wanted

855
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>like everyone to have it, so they broke it down. Basically,

856
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 1>they had like a jeweler to break it down, I guess,

857
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and then everyone kind of got to take different pieces.

858
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was ultimately nine pieces where we're given

859
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>out to the different family members, so that was kind

860
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of cool. He only plans to keep a bracelet if

861
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 1>it's the w Spey main event or the fifty k

862
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 1>PPC calls those ones the only ones that matter enough,

863
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 1>so we'll see if ultimately that happens. You know, if

864
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>anyone's got a shot to win one of those two tournaments,

865
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I would say Sean Deeves, you know, right there as

866
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:05.679
<v Speaker 1>one of the favorites. And then he also mentioned that,

867
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, should he win another bracelet, it's likely that

868
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 1>his kids are next in line, but because he has

869
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>multiple kids, he's gonna need to win multiple bracelets in

870
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a year, so there's no kind of rivalry going on.

871
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you think giving away bracelets like deep does do

872
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you like? Do you think that makes the win more meaningful?

873
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Does it possibly diminish the result or the bracelet?

874
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Like?

875
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about this sort of representation?

876
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it makes it more meaningful or diminishes it

877
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>at all. It's an individual kind of choice. Some people

878
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>like trophy, some people don't. You know, we hear so

879
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>many stories about bracelet winners losing their bracelet or putting

880
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it in a safety positive safety to posit bux and

881
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>forgetting about it or giving it to you know, their dad.

882
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>You know. Then you've got players like Nigrano that have

883
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>him all displayed in his office. Right, So I think

884
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 2>each to their own, do whatever you want. You can

885
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>care about him as much as you want. You know,

886
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>you'll always remember that you want, right, It's always etched in,

887
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 2>etched in WSP history, so it's not going anywhere. And

888
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing that for all these people he gave it to,

889
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.119
<v Speaker 2>it kind of means probably more to them than it

890
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 2>does to to Sean.

891
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it probably just depends on your relationship with

892
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the game ultimately. I think I think it also gives

893
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a look into Sean Dieve as

894
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a person, as a character, you know, meaning that he

895
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously cares about his relationships. I think he's got you know,

896
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:43.519
<v Speaker 1>strong ties to family, to friends, and they're all rooted

897
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 1>in his foundation here. So I don't think that you know,

898
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>gifting bracelets away like this cheapens it in any sort

899
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>of way. It just simply repurposes the value with things.

900
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not necessarily that this bracelet, which is ultimately

901
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 1>the trophy in this space, that's not really the win.

902
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 1>It's just a symbol of the accomplishment. So I think that,

903
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, building off of that, it probably adds to

904
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the meeting, right. You know, most players probably win and

905
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 1>they toss a bracelet in a drawer or in the

906
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 1>little box that it comes with and stick it in

907
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>their desk or whatever it may be. Yeah, some people

908
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.679
<v Speaker 1>display it, of course, but deeb is taking the approach

909
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that he's trying to use it to connect people and

910
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>in a way it has more impact than simply showing

911
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it off in a trophy case or a display case

912
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that maybe you and your immediate family are the only

913
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 1>ones that see, because you know, how often are really

914
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>people coming over to your house to check out everything

915
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. I think it only in terms of like

916
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.280
<v Speaker 1>possibly downplaying it, like some people might say, oh, well,

917
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>he's why would you give away a bracelet, Like isn't

918
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>that the ultimate prize in poker and whatever? I mean,

919
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 1>I guess if you need it for some sort of

920
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 1>like external validation, right, Like, probably the people that need

921
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 1>the external validation the most. It might be the ones

922
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>who actually wear the bracelets, like in the tournaments, you know, like, oh,

923
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>why you got that on? So you get asked me

924
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>about it and I could talk about my accomplishment, like right. So,

925
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Sean Deep's done enough. I think it's you

926
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>don't need to say anything about his career. He doesn't

927
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 1>need the bracelet, He doesn't need that sort of jewelry

928
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to prove anything. He is who he is. He's one

929
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>of the absolute best in the world. So I think

930
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of a kind of a cool thing overall,

931
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>where it ultimately kind of humanizes him, probably not so

932
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>much so to like you and I, because we kind

933
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>of know him, but like to the just I guess

934
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 1>the common poker fan that might read this story and

935
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 1>see it, because it's kind of hard to have a

936
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 1>level of connection with someone you see that's so large

937
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>within an industry. You know, he's this big iconic poker player,

938
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.679
<v Speaker 1>and it shows that he's again kind of rooted in

939
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>family and friendships and he values stuff beyond the game,

940
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>which I think you and I can say, yeah, this

941
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.760
<v Speaker 1>is part of Sean Deep's character because we know him

942
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>more so than just seeing him on the screen, and

943
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's certainly something to said that should be said

944
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 1>about being remembered, you know, for how you want and

945
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>what you did kind of in the week of that

946
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that win and that triumph and who you are off

947
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the table versus just you know, I guess collecting accolades

948
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and showing them off. So so yeah, I mean shout

949
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>out to Sean Deep for that. Now, he said he

950
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 1>would keep the main event, which is obviously an insane bracelet.

951
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>They say it's value to two hundred and fifty thousand

952
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars and the fifty k PPC, which I think, I

953
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 1>think the vid DKPPC is more of a regular bracelet, right,

954
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not. Yeah, I think so special? Do you agree with?

955
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Those are the ones that you would hold on.

956
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 2>To, that hold on everything. I mean unless someone offers

957
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 2>me money for the south Point, not the coin. But hey,

958
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it's his choice. You know, if he's

959
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 2>going to select those two, maybe those two a pretty

960
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.559
<v Speaker 2>good ones. Maybe if he wins the tenth, that's a

961
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.519
<v Speaker 2>good one. In Cape. Yeah, I got no problems with that.

962
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't give him mine away.

963
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the main event one. The main event

964
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 1>one's like so kind of It's interesting to me because

965
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 1>on one side of it, you know, you like you

966
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously want to keep that because it's it's absolutely incredible.

967
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Right on the other side of things, I could strongly

968
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>make the case that I don't need a two hundred

969
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand dollars trophy. I mean, what like that

970
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>just seems wild to me.

971
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Me right, Like if it's really twenty and fifty k,

972
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 2>that's insane.

973
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if you if you could, I mean, obviously there's

974
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>there's always those things where it's like this is valued

975
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.559
<v Speaker 1>at X versus like if you actually tried to sell it,

976
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>could you get X? You know, Now, let's say you

977
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 1>could let's say those things were say X equals x.

978
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>In this case, for sure it's not X equals y.

979
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 1>So if you could sell it for two hundred and

980
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:10.199
<v Speaker 1>fifty K, I mean it would be hard not to, right,

981
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like.

982
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 2>What the real question is what percentage of myself that

983
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I have in the main event?

984
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well even who cares? Even if you even if

985
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you have half of yourself? Right you win ten million,

986
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 1>you get half, you get five million after taxes, that's

987
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>three million.

988
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I might see.

989
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could think it's a lot of frigging money.

990
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I would have to sell it then. I think like you.

991
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Would almost be like, hey, you go to a jeweler

992
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and you spend like you spend like twenty five K

993
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 1>on a replica. Yeah right, but and then you sell

994
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>it for two fifty you know, you pocket the difference,

995
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 1>like it just I don't know, it just seems crazy

996
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's that it's worth so much.

997
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 2>The problem is you can't secretly sell it. Like you know,

998
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 2>let's say you have a diamond ring or diamond earrings.

999
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>You can sell that no one cares, but like these

1000
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 2>are all unique things that the info would get out.

1001
00:50:58.559 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 2>And sure, but.

1002
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Also, what if, what if there's a chance, what if

1003
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like what if okay, what if you could sell it?

1004
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 1>You throw it up on eBay two hundred and fifty

1005
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.400
<v Speaker 1>k okay, you know, and it's obviously it's out there

1006
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and everyone then knows your thing. Or what if you

1007
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>were able to go to a jeweler and hey, hey,

1008
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 1>would you basically buy the parts, like would you buy

1009
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.159
<v Speaker 1>all the diamonds it melts it? Yeah? If you could

1010
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 1>dismantle it and take it apart, you can do that.

1011
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You can melt down the gold, you can take the

1012
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>diamonds or whatever. But they're only going to give you

1013
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:27.079
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifty k.

1014
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I would do that instead.

1015
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And but then but with that, it's also like not

1016
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 1>known because it's only between you and the jeweler.

1017
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I would do that.

1018
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I would create a replica and sell the

1019
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 1>real I mean personally, I mean, I just it's so

1020
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>much money. It's just insane to me.

1021
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 2>It is so much money, Like it's just like.

1022
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 1>What huh you know? I mean I understand that, Like

1023
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I guess the idea behind it is like you don't

1024
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 1>need to sell it if you win ten million dollars.

1025
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>But we all know, no one has one hundred percent

1026
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 1>of themselves other than like twelve people in that tournament.

1027
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I just think it's I just think it's, uh,

1028
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely definitely crazy. I also thought it was a

1029
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 1>little bit I guess interesting that Deep didn't at least

1030
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 1>keep the first one, like you feel like the first

1031
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 1>one for sure, you know, like, that's okay, my first one,

1032
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, doesn't matter if it's freaking the fifteen

1033
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>raz tournament or you know whatever, it doesn't matter my

1034
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 1>first bracelet. Okay, I'm gonna keep that one. The other

1035
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>one's you know.

1036
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 2>What I mean. Let we all know Sean's little cocky,

1037
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>so he probably once he won the first one, he's like, well,

1038
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll get the next one a couple weeks probably, So

1039
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 2>here he got grandma, all right.

1040
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to another big name poker player, Alex Foxen.

1041
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a bone to pick with Alex Foxen kind

1042
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>of a bone to pick with poker dot org. So

1043
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they wrote an article that was titled ninety hours on

1044
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>stream question mark, Alex Foxen said the w S Spotlight

1045
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>needs limits. This is by Craig Tapscott. Now, Foxen is

1046
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>an incredible player. I just took a little bit about

1047
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 1>this where I mean he's talking about his wife Kristen

1048
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Fox and playing on THEWS main event stream for ninety

1049
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 1>hours last summer, which I'm not sure if I have

1050
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.199
<v Speaker 1>more of an issue with the exaggeration on Fox's behalf,

1051
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>which I think is probably the least of my issue,

1052
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>versus the fact that poker dot Org just decided to

1053
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 1>run the clickbait title and not even fact check it.

1054
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I have a bigger issue with that, Yeah,

1055
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>because you could very easily fact check this. I mean,

1056
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that she was on for ninety hours.

1057
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I looked at the numbers and it was not anywhere

1058
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>close by the math that I saw.

1059
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>So she was up there a lot, but it wasn't

1060
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't ninety hours.

1061
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, she was for sure up there a lot. I mean,

1062
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 1>I just want to keep it, you know, closer to

1063
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 1>the bone there and not just go too crazy about it. Now.

1064
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you manage some of this stuff where some

1065
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of it is random, right in terms of like what

1066
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>table you draw or whatever. It's so part of it

1067
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>is not only that it's random in terms of like

1068
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>let's say Chrissy's table was drawn Okay, that's one thing.

1069
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:23.639
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is like what if there are just

1070
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 1>aren't any good tables and she's the only good table,

1071
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the other guess. I can see both sides

1072
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 1>of the argument in that sense where it's like, okay,

1073
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>one side is you got to put the big names

1074
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 1>up there, which Alex did did talk about in this

1075
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>article that he expects to, you know, have players that

1076
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 1>are the bigger names to receive more spotlight. The other

1077
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 1>side is, you know, well you can just create more stories. Well,

1078
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anyone's ever watched when we put

1079
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>up a table of relatively unknown people, but people basically

1080
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>come out with pitchforks trying to kill us. Where's Daniel,

1081
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Where's Ivy? Where's hell the Okay, okay, we get it,

1082
00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like we get we get it.

1083
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the thing I have to say is that

1084
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're down in the final three tables

1085
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 2>in the main event, you're all under the spotlight. So

1086
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.800
<v Speaker 2>let's just scrap Day eight and then scrap a majority

1087
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of Day seven. From day really, from day one a onwards,

1088
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.360
<v Speaker 2>we're always rotating tables. We're always trying to find a

1089
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:21.880
<v Speaker 2>big star to put up there. That people want to watch,

1090
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, just picking a random table no one cares,

1091
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>and we want people watching, We want people enjoying the

1092
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 2>content and like you said, not complaining that their favorite

1093
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.480
<v Speaker 2>players there. So we try and do a rotating table.

1094
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes hey, that table will stay up for two levels

1095
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>instead of one. And then as you get into the

1096
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 2>deeper parts of the tournaments, you know, day five, day six,

1097
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>day seven, there's less stars, right, you know, people have

1098
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.199
<v Speaker 2>busted and the fact that Chrissy is definitely a poker

1099
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 2>star it and she was running deep, yes she did.

1100
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 2>She was up there a little bit more than you know,

1101
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>forridge shoe on an outer table. But it's kind of

1102
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the you kind of have to accept that when you're

1103
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:10.920
<v Speaker 2>a professional poker player, a sponsored poker player, that and

1104
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:14.400
<v Speaker 2>this is your livelihood. You are gonna, you know, get

1105
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit draw the short straw occasionally, but that

1106
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 2>normally means you are doing really well and winning a

1107
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. So if you kind of think of

1108
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.039
<v Speaker 2>it from that side of things.

1109
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there should be any sort of like cap.

1110
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:28.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it probably couldn't be a hard cap, but

1111
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, some sort of like soft app not really

1112
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff more than I did.

1113
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, there's okay. Not all these tables were

1114
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 2>built around around Chrissy. Some were, some weren't. Some are

1115
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 2>chosen because of the the breaking order. So we'll honestly say, hey,

1116
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 2>this is the next table going up, and then when

1117
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they do the when they break a table, Chrissy randomly

1118
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>gets that one. That's that's out of our control. We

1119
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>don't do the tape breaking. So yeah, there's a bit

1120
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>of randomness to how much he's up there. It's kind

1121
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 2>of hard to put a cap. The only place we

1122
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 2>really do that is, you know, we touched on it.

1123
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 2>We're doing six you know, six streams of Day two content,

1124
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 2>like non final table content. During Bracelet events, those tables

1125
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that I pick, we always rotate them out because the

1126
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.639
<v Speaker 2>field is so big and we can nearly get everyone

1127
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.719
<v Speaker 2>up there. Main event much different, much bigger, much harder

1128
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 2>to get every table up. So we try and do

1129
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 2>what we can to put on a good show for

1130
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 2>you guys at home.

1131
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the average fan under rates the

1132
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>additional toll that playing on a streamed table puts on players?

1133
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's tough up there. Those lights are bright,

1134
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the table's big, there's the decisions are magnified because you know,

1135
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 2>people are seeing your cards, seeing your bedsizes, So those

1136
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 2>two factors are very, very big, and I can understand that. Look,

1137
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:07.239
<v Speaker 2>we've sat up there ourselves to do rehearsals or just

1138
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 2>to chat. It's you can feel. You can feel the lights,

1139
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 2>you can feel the heat, and that's and we're not

1140
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:16.239
<v Speaker 2>even playing for millions of dollars. So I think it's

1141
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 2>very underrated how tough it is up there. But like

1142
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I said, we try and you know, make it equal

1143
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>for everyone and rotate as many people in and it's tough.

1144
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna get scolded for what I'm about to say,

1145
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna say it anyway because that's how I am.

1146
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a better way to do the lights.

1147
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a production guy. I don't know this. I'm

1148
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be told that I'm wrong, but I feel

1149
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like it's twenty twenty five and so much of technology

1150
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>has gotten better in a lot of ways. Like I

1151
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like there has to be some sort of softer

1152
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 1>light situation out there. Like I don't know, I just

1153
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it could happen. I have no idea.

1154
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm completely wrong. I agree with you. Listen, I've

1155
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you've been up there on that stage, not not necessarily playing,

1156
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 1>but doing rehearsal, sitting up there doing the podcast. You know,

1157
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you and I just talking about whatever the heck we're

1158
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about, and we're doing it there, and it is

1159
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 1>hot under those lights. I will say that when I

1160
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>played on the WP World Championship live stream a couple

1161
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of years ago, it was not that hot under those lights,

1162
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>So that could maybe that's a scale thing, because one's

1163
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 1>much bigger, ones much smaller.

1164
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I just you know, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there

1165
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:38.039
<v Speaker 2>is a solution out there, you know, with better maybe

1166
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:44.639
<v Speaker 2>the words not beat alliance, but less lighting maybe. But yeah,

1167
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 2>it's something that if I was, you know, if I

1168
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:49.719
<v Speaker 2>went hopefully I'm playing the main event this year, if

1169
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I go up there, you know, I know that's gonna

1170
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a bit of an adatoe. But

1171
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.239
<v Speaker 2>it's also, hey, I get to play on a feature

1172
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.880
<v Speaker 2>that that's kind of cool, so I ain't gonna complain.

1173
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.639
<v Speaker 2>But I also, I'm not a multi bracet winning professional

1174
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>procle player playing for millions, millions of dollars.

1175
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I get it, you know, part of it we can say,

1176
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.079
<v Speaker 1>is it's kind of the price to pay for getting

1177
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 1>your spot in your time in the spotlight. You know.

1178
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I also understand that it's it is a bit taxing.

1179
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I personally don't like things at least at certain stages

1180
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:26.320
<v Speaker 1>of the tournament where you know, people on streams can't

1181
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 1>have access to their phones. I don't personally like that.

1182
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I've thrown a mindor fit about that in the past,

1183
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>but it is. It is what it is. So I

1184
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just think that there are some some you know, sort

1185
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.679
<v Speaker 1>of disadvantages or whatnot. I also think that there's probably

1186
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:47.639
<v Speaker 1>some advantages in terms of like a better player who's

1187
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 1>used to it can probably get an advantage over his table,

1188
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the ws main events as the biggest example,

1189
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:59.039
<v Speaker 1>So that's an added benefit. So so yeah, now it

1190
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:02.320
<v Speaker 1>was also in the article goal That's Foxin mentioned, you know,

1191
01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the whole like length of tournaments and days and that

1192
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, which is kind of akin to what

1193
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Phil Helmuth was saying when he came out with that

1194
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.119
<v Speaker 1>whole thing about how he's not playing the WSC main

1195
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>event because it's too long. He can't do it, you know.

1196
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:19.239
<v Speaker 1>So I guess to you are players like Helmuth, like

1197
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Fox and that are coming out with that sort of

1198
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 1>thought process. Are they right that the organizers are I guess,

1199
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:29.039
<v Speaker 1>in a way being greedy, you know, like or is

1200
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:31.280
<v Speaker 1>or is again? Is this just kind of the nature

1201
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of things? You know, maybe it's not just necessarily greed,

1202
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 1>or it's just an unwillingness to change. I think the

1203
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 1>idea of the greed comes from that, Well, if you

1204
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>add an extra day, that's obviously more money for the organizer, right,

1205
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you have to pay more dealers, you have to staff

1206
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 1>more people, whatever. So like, is it is it then

1207
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.599
<v Speaker 1>greedy to try and condense it as much as possible

1208
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:55.639
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to pay all those extra days?

1209
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you think that the WS main event

1210
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.840
<v Speaker 1>should go in extra day out? I can't remember. I

1211
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 1>know we talked about the helmet thing. I don't remember

1212
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:05.920
<v Speaker 1>if we specifically talked like about our thoughts of like

1213
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.679
<v Speaker 1>should the main event be extended? Like you know, maybe

1214
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:11.760
<v Speaker 1>we did and we said that, like the level should

1215
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.239
<v Speaker 1>be shorter kind of earlier on.

1216
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talked about but I think that's so. Yeah,

1217
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I wanted ninety minute levels until like registration ends or

1218
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:23.719
<v Speaker 2>something that would cut off a few hours, and I

1219
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:26.159
<v Speaker 2>think it would make the tournament, you know, much better.

1220
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we three or four years ago we said

1221
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 2>it needs a day eight, and then we had that

1222
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:32.800
<v Speaker 2>one year where the day seven went to six am.

1223
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 2>So then the next year they added the day eight.

1224
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes these poker players, I don't think they think

1225
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:45.440
<v Speaker 2>about everything when it comes to hey, let's make the

1226
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:50.760
<v Speaker 2>tournament like longer, like better structure. Well, when you do that,

1227
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 2>we need dealers longer, we need supervisors longer. That means

1228
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to charge you more rake, but then

1229
01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 2>they'll complain about too much rake. So it's about finding

1230
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the middle ground. So you know, if we tell like

1231
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:06.239
<v Speaker 2>if you're helme with on Fox and want more days,

1232
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.960
<v Speaker 2>are they okay with instead of seven hundred raak eight fifty?

1233
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's let's ask them that question first. I

1234
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 2>think some people think, hey, we can just add a

1235
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 2>few days, it doesn't matter, just like these like mixed

1236
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.519
<v Speaker 2>game structures, which are you know, taking forever to get

1237
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:26.679
<v Speaker 2>down to the money, but people still wanting to play

1238
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:31.679
<v Speaker 2>for eighteen hours and then they're complaining about excessive rate.

1239
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think we're ever going to win with

1240
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:38.440
<v Speaker 2>these poker players and that battle between length of time

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<v Speaker 2>and fees.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think this event specifically, I mean, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>really liked the endurance aspect of it. Yeah, you know,

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01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:49.960
<v Speaker 1>part of it is you have to be able to

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01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:56.239
<v Speaker 1>play really, really, really well for almost two weeks. And

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01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:01.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to win Poker's crowning event, the biggest,

1247
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:04.039
<v Speaker 1>most prestigious event in the world, that should probably be

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01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 1>some sort of factor in it, which I like. And

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01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sure there's plenty of disagreement there, but

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01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's how I feel. I also think that

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01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 1>something that people kind of overlook is that this event,

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01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:23.920
<v Speaker 1>more so than any other event, I think, is paramount

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01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in growing the game, just simply because it it is

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01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 1>poker's biggest showcase and it's the event that ultimately everyone

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01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 1>you know wants to eventually play. It's that bucket list item,

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01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:39.880
<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately were to make the event in any sort of

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01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 1>way better for the pros, it ultimately hurts the growth

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01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:56.039
<v Speaker 1>of poker because amateurs have less of a shot, recreational

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01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.480
<v Speaker 1>less of a shot, like, so, if you're making this

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01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:07.280
<v Speaker 1>chain to ultimately make it better for the pros then yeah,

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01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 1>because I I think I think the amateur is, like

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01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they necessarily care about the light

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01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.440
<v Speaker 1>length of it, like, you know, at least so much

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01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 1>so that it that it matters. But if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>allow I mean, let's just use it, because we're we're

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01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 1>on this topic. If you're gonna allow Alex Fox in

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01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:24.960
<v Speaker 1>more time to play his a game, recreational player is

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01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.960
<v Speaker 1>never gonna win. I it's not exactly so. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that also goes to your point of like I've

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01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:33.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of think two hours is too long of levels

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01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 1>for this thing. It's you know, having played it now

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01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:38.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, sometimes I'm sitting there like, holy god,

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01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:44.440
<v Speaker 1>this is taking forever. So so yeah, but I think

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01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:49.199
<v Speaker 1>there's obviously some sort of compromise there. Maybe you do

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01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing that you said, you know, it's it's shortened

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01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:56.199
<v Speaker 1>levels prior to registration closing. Then it goes to two hours, right,

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01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.599
<v Speaker 1>you know something like that. I also, like, you know,

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01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.159
<v Speaker 1>to kind of play Devil's Advocate to myself, I like

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01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.679
<v Speaker 1>that this event is different than every other event in

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01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the world in terms of like level length and structure,

1282
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just it really is the best of the best.

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01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I do like that. I just I just think that

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01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:17.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a line where you could possibly cross it that

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01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.480
<v Speaker 1>if you make it, if you make it too difficult

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01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 1>for a recreational player or an amateur player to ever

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01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.159
<v Speaker 1>win the event again, you know, are we ever? Are

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01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 1>we just losing something in the big picture? Is my concern.

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Small concern, but but yeah, you know, like I'm sure

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01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the I'm sure top pros to be like, yeah, make

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01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it three weeks, three hour levels, you know, like like

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01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're gonna do. And like, yeah, over time,

1293
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.159
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna grind out all the good players like

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01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.079
<v Speaker 1>or all the all the bad players like, and they're

1295
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.559
<v Speaker 1>just gonna all the money's gonna go to all the

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01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:51.679
<v Speaker 1>good players. That's gonna happen, you know. But I think

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01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 1>it's good to have a Chris Moneymaker esque run story

1298
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be, to get that. You know, nowadays

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01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:04.760
<v Speaker 1>we really do see eight to nine really really good players.

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01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Now they might not be big, big known or well

1301
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:10.800
<v Speaker 1>known big names that make the foul table, but generally speaking,

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01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the people that make the found table are pretty good

1303
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 1>at poke, you know. So, so yeah, that's kind of

1304
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.519
<v Speaker 1>the tricky aspect there, like does it ultimately hurt things

1305
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.719
<v Speaker 1>or not? Now, maybe it's it's something that I'm making

1306
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:27.559
<v Speaker 1>bigger than it really is in the grand scheme of things,

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01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:30.639
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's worth considering, so I brought it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, anything else from you?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just ready for the World Series?

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01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Are you really?

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01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Of course?

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01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 1>How ready? Scale one to ten?

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01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 2>We need to touch up the mallet a little bit

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01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:46.679
<v Speaker 2>on the side, make it a little short of.

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01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.119
<v Speaker 1>God to the What are the what are the outfits

1316
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 1>going to be like this summer? Are we? Are we

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01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:55.159
<v Speaker 1>thinking cowboy themed? Are you? Are you doing something?

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01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Two outfits planned? One it's for the twenty five

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01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 2>K fifty days, I know, but I can wing the

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01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:06.559
<v Speaker 2>rest of it. Twenty five K fantasy. Just picture the

1321
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:10.920
<v Speaker 2>most redneck you've ever seen me. That's for the twenty

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01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:11.800
<v Speaker 2>five K fantasy.

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01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at the most redneck you have no

1324
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.920
<v Speaker 1>shirt on the pot like all right now on my

1325
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:19.960
<v Speaker 1>videos it's with a giant mustache. There has never been

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01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:21.119
<v Speaker 1>more of a red neck book.

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01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.439
<v Speaker 2>And then and then I have a you know how

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01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I always have those Binnian's horseshoe w SP like satin yeah, jackets. Okay,

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01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:35.199
<v Speaker 2>I got a let's just say, a Cowboy version coming.

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01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:36.880
<v Speaker 2>It's getting a.

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01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Little PGT version.

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01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I need I need to get a PGT one too,

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01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:43.840
<v Speaker 2>But come on, we'll start with the Cowboy one. We'll

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01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 2>see how that fares. It's getting a little edit by

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01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:52.079
<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine, so yeah, that's kind of it.

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01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 2>And then we'll just wing it. We'll do some we'll

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01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:57.079
<v Speaker 2>do some boots, and we'll figure it out. Not too

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01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.600
<v Speaker 2>not too wirried, just let the mullet flowed freely through

1339
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the breeze of the horse Street.

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01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait, and.

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01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want more surprise, but I can't really talk

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01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:10.439
<v Speaker 2>about in the pod. I mean a couple of people know.

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01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 2>But when it happens, we'll talk a bit more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean I have no idea what that is,

1345
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:20.640
<v Speaker 1>but okay, Yes, we got the twenty five K Fantasy

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01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Draft coming up on Tuesday, a week from today, Tuesday,

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01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:28.720
<v Speaker 1>May twenty seventh, one pm, Vegas time. It's happening at

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01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the poker Gro studio. Poker Girl will be streaming it

1349
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 1>on poke Grol on the poker Gro YouTube channel, So

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01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:37.399
<v Speaker 1>if you want to tune into that sort of thing,

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01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:39.800
<v Speaker 1>please go ahead and do so. Tim is going to

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01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>be the auctioneer. I will be in there with our

1353
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:47.159
<v Speaker 1>team drafting. Am I am paired up with my good friend,

1354
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:52.159
<v Speaker 1>colleague of ours, longtime poker industry veteran, Mickey Doft. We

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01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:55.680
<v Speaker 1>are in there, Mickey and drafting. Yeah, he's here, he

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01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:58.439
<v Speaker 1>gets here, he gets here Sunday, he'll be here in

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01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the draft room. I have not put in more research.

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01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I've put in the most research I ever have. Oh wow,

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01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I've had. I've talked more with Mickey than I've talked

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01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:11.960
<v Speaker 1>with anyone else I've been paired with. So we are

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01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:12.520
<v Speaker 1>ready to go.

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01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.119
<v Speaker 1>It's probably all going to fall apart like it always does,

1364
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 1>but we have a really good idea of what we

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01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 1>want to do, how we want to do it. I've

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01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I've heard there could be three new teams in there,

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01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 1>so so who knows. I feel like I hear that

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01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.600
<v Speaker 1>every year, so you know, I hope that it does happen.

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01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I just want it to be like twenty five teams

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01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:40.359
<v Speaker 2>or like twelve teams, so that everybody's strategy and everybody's

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01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:41.600
<v Speaker 2>in preparation with numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just throwing out, I don't want to ever

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01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:44.880
<v Speaker 1>be twelve.

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01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but like I want some variable to

1375
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the normal, like nineteen twenty we have so that everyone's

1376
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 2>strategy and everyone's pricing is just doesn't.

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01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Well I'll tell you this, ninety percent of the teams

1378
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:01.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have a strategy, okay, is like that is number one.

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01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:04.640
<v Speaker 1>For example, Like Dan Fleischman is going to show up

1380
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna draft Phil Hallimuth and Phil Ivy and

1381
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Michael mcsrocky, and he's gonna be done drafting his team

1382
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:12.479
<v Speaker 1>in twenty seven minutes and then he's probably gonna leave.

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01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:15.520
<v Speaker 2>He said he wanted to put two teams in lost.

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01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, yeah, go ahead, do whatever you want,

1385
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Like you want to pay an extra twenty five k,

1386
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:25.720
<v Speaker 1>go nuts. So there's that. I I mean, the best

1387
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:27.840
<v Speaker 1>thing that you that that could happen in terms of

1388
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:32.439
<v Speaker 1>messing up people's strategies is if more teams showed up,

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01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:37.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty five thirty like, because because then people

1390
01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:40.840
<v Speaker 1>would really need to be digging deep into into their lists.

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01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:44.279
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I don't think people have big enough

1392
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:48.239
<v Speaker 1>lists as is, so I can only imagine what would

1393
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:51.439
<v Speaker 1>happen if, you know, if you added seven ten twelve

1394
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:54.319
<v Speaker 1>teams to the mix, you know how that would that

1395
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:59.479
<v Speaker 1>would fare. I am kind of always surprised that more

1396
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:04.840
<v Speaker 1>people there's not more growth in the league. I don't know.

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01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I understand obviously, twenty five K is

1398
01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.479
<v Speaker 1>a massive price point for a fantasy league. I mean,

1399
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to me, I get into it. But I

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01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.479
<v Speaker 1>mean you can, like, I think there's enough. I think

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01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:22.760
<v Speaker 1>there's enough things like high stakes fantasy football leagues or

1402
01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:25.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever within the poker community that like, I would expect

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01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.880
<v Speaker 1>all those people to also play this. You know, maybe

1404
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you pair up with a couple of people and you

1405
01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.079
<v Speaker 1>each put up five K or whatever it is, and

1406
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, you do it that way and you get

1407
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:38.039
<v Speaker 1>in there, right you send kind of send one person

1408
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:43.119
<v Speaker 1>a draft or or whatnot. I just I've always thought that,

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01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like the league should probably gain on average probably one

1410
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.880
<v Speaker 1>point five entries per year. Yeah, you know, I just so,

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01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's just that people are just

1412
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:58.600
<v Speaker 1>gun shy or what the deal is. I would say

1413
01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that if you're if you're out there and you're on

1414
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:04.079
<v Speaker 1>the fence and for whatever reason, you're scared away. I mean,

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01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding when I believe that eighty percent of

1416
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the people in that draft room have basically done zero preparation.

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01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 1>They like print out the last year's draft form and like,

1418
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, show up like that's it. Yeah, so so yeah,

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01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:24.399
<v Speaker 1>so I think more people should should try and get

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01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.199
<v Speaker 1>in there, you know, one way or the other. You

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01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:29.079
<v Speaker 1>know again, team up with some friends, put it together.

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01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:32.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, many people are spending way more than twenty

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01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:37.119
<v Speaker 1>five k for an entire summer sweat. So so yeah,

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01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I would I would highly encourage people to hop on

1425
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 1>in there. It's a lot of fun and it's it's

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01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 1>great to track all summer long. So again, Tuesday, May

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01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:49.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, that'll be on Poker Girl and the Poker

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01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Go YouTube channel, so you guys can watch it. It'll

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01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.399
<v Speaker 1>be fun. You can see what sort of strategy Mickey

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01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and I have. Hopefully it comes to fruition. We don't

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01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.720
<v Speaker 1>have to go to plan B CD E and F

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01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of crazy stuff. So let's go.

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01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Let's freaking go. All right, that's gonna do it for

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01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:10.560
<v Speaker 1>us again, a couple more episodes that we're gonna hit,

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01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:15.039
<v Speaker 1>hopefully before the dubas actually gets here, and we'll be

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01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.760
<v Speaker 1>dropping those in the coming days. So it's dobasic be time, man,

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01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it's here. We're a week away, so get ready. It's

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01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a fun summer. It's gonna be big, it's

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01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:26.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be great. Can't wait to uh be there be

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01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 1>bringing you guys all the coverage as we always do

1441
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:30.840
<v Speaker 1>here from Poker Go. So that's gonna do it for

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01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:33.000
<v Speaker 1>us on this episode. My name is Donny Peters, his

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01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.199
<v Speaker 1>name is Tim Duckworth. We'll talk to you guys next time.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah,