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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the bear hunting magazine Hunt Cash. With me

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<v Speaker 1>Koby Moorehead, We're gonna nerd out on bears hunting and

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<v Speaker 1>the outdoors. We'll tell stories, talk biology, tactics, gear, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fight to protect the pursuits that we hold dear.

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<v Speaker 1>So grab your bino's, lace up your boots, load up

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<v Speaker 1>your barrels, and gather the hounds as we venture on

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<v Speaker 1>this journey together. So today I'm with Brandon White from

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<v Speaker 1>Next Level dog Food, And before we get into today's podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking here a lot about all of our

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<v Speaker 1>buddies out in North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee and just

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<v Speaker 1>all the things going on out there, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to wish off them the best. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really encouraging to see how the communities gathered

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<v Speaker 1>around each other out there and how it's just Appalachians

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<v Speaker 1>supporting Appalachians and then all the people that know them

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<v Speaker 1>and are just helping out the best they can. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to know that there's people on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>out there that you can trust to be responsible with

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they were sent. We were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how there's so many different organizations that pop up

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<v Speaker 1>that really are asking for this, or that you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who you can trust, especially with I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even some of the rules coming out of that area

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<v Speaker 1>just are kind of kind of dumbfound you. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>really great to see how the communities rallied around each

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<v Speaker 1>other and just done a solid job of supporting each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So hats off to you guys. Today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about kind of the science behind dog food and

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<v Speaker 1>see what we can learn from just the production process

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<v Speaker 1>and lean on a lot of the knowledge that brand

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<v Speaker 1>and has. But first we want to find out some

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<v Speaker 1>of his background and some of the background behind Next Level. So, hey, Brennan,

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<v Speaker 1>going good, good, So give me some of your your background.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're a diehard tree guy, a treehound guy feiler,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, how you got involved with Next Level. And

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into that, I want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the way that I got connected with

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<v Speaker 1>you guys is uh is kind of not normal. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad lives in the same town like I'm from, East Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>where you guys are located your corporate headquarters and want

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<v Speaker 1>your production plant. And uh, my dad saw somebody come

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<v Speaker 1>in to the place that he was eating lunch that

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<v Speaker 1>had Next Level on the on their polo, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to talk to my son. So my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>not pastful.

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<v Speaker 2>East Texas. Well, I don't know too many bashful people

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<v Speaker 2>down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's cool because like this actually come from uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship come from just uh. I mean, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a cold call. It wasn't like, oh hey, check

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<v Speaker 1>out our media kid. It was like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>my dad being friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think he met our president, Hayden Hayden Fox,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds right. Yeah, at a restaurant and Hayden called

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<v Speaker 2>me like, hey man, you need to talk to kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is really a cool deal talk about

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<v Speaker 2>bear Hunt. Yeah, so you're our hand guy, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we've we've really uh we've really enjoyed starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get to know you. Guys are still pretty early, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking forward to getting up there and touring the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, let's go ahead and dive into it. Me

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<v Speaker 1>some of your I'm really interested in your background because

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<v Speaker 1>the more that we talked, the over the phone or

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<v Speaker 1>even here this morning, it's it's clear that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of depth to your to your helm background.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I'm I tell everybody, I pay taxes

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<v Speaker 2>in Southwest Missouri, but I live in a Hilton hotel

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<v Speaker 2>all day in most of the time. Yeah, I traveled

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<v Speaker 2>so much. But uh, my family growing up in Southwest Missouri,

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle's all coon hunters, you know, had coonhounds and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh on one side of the family. The other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the family, you know, they coon hunters. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just something we always had, always had coon hounds

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<v Speaker 2>or beagles or something. And on my mom's side they

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<v Speaker 2>were blue tick folks. And on my dad's side, they

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<v Speaker 2>were black and tans.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of your listeners may know. I remember a general

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<v Speaker 2>named Harold Bailey had Bailey's black and tans and he

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<v Speaker 2>won the world way back in the seventies. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just landed with blue ticks, and I thought they were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cool. You know. Everybody that where I lived

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of them, had walkers, you know, tream walkers,

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<v Speaker 2>which are good, good hounds, and yeah, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>something a little different, and it was a blue tick,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And yeah, the joke is I can hunt

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<v Speaker 2>my forty acres all night long and not worry about

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<v Speaker 2>getting out of pocket. But uh, you know, I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>high school back in uh from age You're back in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty nine, went to the military, served in the

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<v Speaker 2>army for eight years, got out and went to work

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<v Speaker 2>driving a truck actually for a which is now called

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<v Speaker 2>FedEx Freight, used to be American Freightways out of Harrison, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, had had a pretty good hounder. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was pretty good, and we won a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just enough of a redneck ram, just

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<v Speaker 2>enough of redneck that won a bigger event. And dog

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<v Speaker 2>would come say, man, when you were our hat, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put our logo on your ads, we gonna give me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how can I turn this in to help

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<v Speaker 2>pay my expenses? And anyway, this particular company, we worked

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<v Speaker 2>out a deal and they were gonna quote unquote sponsored me.

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<v Speaker 2>But side note, nobody sponsors anybody. Yeah, in the doctor world,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get something out of it too. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got some things. We worked some things out, which

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of introduced me into the pet food sales.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, that's pretty cool. This guy's getting paid to go.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a bird dog, got to go to bird dog

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<v Speaker 2>hunts and honey events and trade shows. And that's all

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<v Speaker 2>he does. And I made a joke to him one time.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I like to have your job. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had a pretty good job, I thought, you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>did at FedEx, and he said, be careful what you

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<v Speaker 2>wish for. And then a few months later FedEx offered

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<v Speaker 2>a buyout and I was thirty nine years old, married

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<v Speaker 2>and had two kids, and that company offered me a

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<v Speaker 2>full time job as a field sales rep. I said, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is perfect. I can go do well I always

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<v Speaker 2>wanted and get paid. And so I took a leap

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<v Speaker 2>of faith, and man, that was an education I learned

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<v Speaker 2>at that point on to get everything in writing. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>agree to nothing that's in writing. Yeah, but uh, that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of my my introduction to pet food sales.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went to work for a whostsale distributor

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, as manufacturers, we sell to hostel distributors

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<v Speaker 2>who sell to retailers you know, and do online to consumers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I fell in love with it. I was ordered

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<v Speaker 2>for a distributor out of out of Rhode Island actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and I covered Missouri, Kansas, and Nebraska, and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I met Scott Glover and Antoine album It's the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that owned US pet Food Next Level. At the time,

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<v Speaker 2>they were the owners of Mid America Pet Food. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of you folks may know that they were the original

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<v Speaker 2>greadors and original owners of Mid America, which made Victor

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<v Speaker 2>dog Food. At the time, that's where I met those guys. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>we just hit it off like brothers, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>just a perfect for perfect connection. They offered me a job,

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<v Speaker 2>and I glad they took it, and no looking back,

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<v Speaker 2>and be with those guys now since about twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and just super great people and know their families very well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll follow those guys anywhere. But that you sold,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they had had been America Victor dog Food

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<v Speaker 2>had that company sold it in twenty twenty had a

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<v Speaker 2>two year non compete and they couldn't hire any of

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<v Speaker 2>us directly because they're non compete. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>go somewhere else for a while and then come back

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<v Speaker 2>with them in the fall of twenty twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were just starting to break ground on what's now

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<v Speaker 2>called US pet Food, our plant there on Highway two

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one south of Mount Pleasant, And we have two brands.

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<v Speaker 2>Next Level is one of our brands are our super

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<v Speaker 2>premium brand. Then another one called Stratus, which is more

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<v Speaker 2>of an economy brand, feeds very well but just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit easier on the pocketbook. But that's our two brands.

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<v Speaker 2>And during our non compete there for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to sell supplements, So I traveled east

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<v Speaker 2>coast from Florida selling supplements, and then we launched Next

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<v Speaker 2>Level in September of twenty twenty three. It just took

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<v Speaker 2>off like a rocket ship. And you know we mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>sales is all about relationships, and there's lots of different

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<v Speaker 2>dog free brands that there are people to choose from.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's only thirty five forty manufacturers in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, but yet there's five thousand different brands. And

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<v Speaker 2>some of the brands that we know, some people know,

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<v Speaker 2>they't even they don't even own their own manufacturing plant.

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<v Speaker 2>They're paying somebody else to make it for them. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that gives us a little different

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<v Speaker 2>little leg ups. We own our own plant, we built it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really like it. Whenever someone finds success inside

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<v Speaker 1>of a lane and then there's got to be something

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<v Speaker 1>inside of them and make someone want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and do that. Same thing again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know passion These guys are so passionate.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they come from from the feed meal industry.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. How that those guys kind of their

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<v Speaker 2>relationship started. People often wonder how how did it? How

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<v Speaker 2>did it start? You know, tell us about it because

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<v Speaker 2>we're very transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Antoine went to college Scott. Scott's family on

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<v Speaker 2>the feed meal there. Whoever feeds your dad probably knows

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<v Speaker 2>members at brack in the old days. And uh, Scott

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<v Speaker 2>went to college and then he bought a feed meal

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<v Speaker 2>in Little Rock, Arkansas, te Bolt Milling or T Square Milling,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where he met Antoine. Hired Antoine to help

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<v Speaker 2>him run that, and then that fell apart. They had

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<v Speaker 2>to they got a fire or something. Anyway, Scott moved

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<v Speaker 2>to northeast and Antoine back to southern Arkansas doing lands

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<v Speaker 2>aping and excavating and whatnot. And Scott come back and

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to build a female his parents were retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to build a dog food plant and just

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<v Speaker 2>a little four state multi regional dog food plant. He

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<v Speaker 2>called Dan Twine up still had his phone number. Antoine

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Northeast, Texas and they built men America pet

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<v Speaker 2>food from the ground up and jumped in a car,

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<v Speaker 2>went around and didn't come home till they sold the

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<v Speaker 2>first truck of dog food. And they got it done,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was in two thousand and eight, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and seven, two thousand and eight, and minute just word

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<v Speaker 2>of mouth. The product fed so well, just took off

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<v Speaker 2>its word of mouth. And those guys took a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of their knowledge they have from the dairy industry and

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<v Speaker 2>applied it to dog food. We feel like they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of set the bar down gut health and pet food.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people talk about having prebodics probotics in

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<v Speaker 2>their food, but it's just a tag what do you

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<v Speaker 2>call a tag dress, just a little pixie dust so

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<v Speaker 2>you can have it on the tags that looks good. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because you don't want to feed the dog

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<v Speaker 2>they're not digesting you that. It took what we learned

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that we've learned, you know, house

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting to be too much calcium. Some people think

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<v Speaker 2>Got to have calcium. There's a minimum of one point

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<v Speaker 2>point five percent in a dog food. You know, too

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<v Speaker 2>much calcium causes growth deficiencies, to cause the bones to

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<v Speaker 2>if it's getting blocked by too much calcium, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>your skin and coat. You know, I spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>on nutritionness out of Saint Louis. Been in the industry

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<v Speaker 2>and then the calium levels low. And there's ways to

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<v Speaker 2>so on and so forth, and buying a quality premium

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<v Speaker 2>product that we use. People some manufacturers are buying a

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<v Speaker 2>cheaper meat meal and they're getting more bones and ash,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why the costminers are so high. But the

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<v Speaker 2>government says no more than two point five percent and

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<v Speaker 2>in a back of dog food. So yeah, big, big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, these guys just spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>they do have a passion for it. But they take

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<v Speaker 2>put it in. It's not just an investment for them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not just throwing money in it and spending a

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<v Speaker 2>Their purpose is and they really do make believe in

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<v Speaker 2>and have a passion for animal health. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 2>believe we're the best nutritional value on the market. Are

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>But nutritionally, we're the best value on the market and

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<v Speaker 2>in our state of the art facility they built. You

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<v Speaker 2>a video Scott put out back in April. He's gets

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<v Speaker 2>a whole tour. Not I don't know if any other

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<v Speaker 2>pet food companies ever done that. Just open the doors,

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<v Speaker 2>wide open, video and go through video the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the public size that for anybody to go look at.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to a lot of pet food plants and

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<v Speaker 2>most of them you have to leave your phone in

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<v Speaker 2>your vehicle and sign an NBA before you can come

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<v Speaker 2>inside it. Ours is wide open. Not wide open that

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<v Speaker 2>they just came off the street and walk in it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you've got business to tend with us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, basically wide open because they have to video

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook. But it's pretty pretty neat, you know. We

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<v Speaker 2>get your We have a lab so when the trucks

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<v Speaker 2>come in our facility, they weigh in and then they

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<v Speaker 2>go to a lab. Truck drivers get out and they

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<v Speaker 2>go into a breaker in the bottom of the lab our.

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<v Speaker 2>Lab techs come out probe the trucks take it inside

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got a machine that's a wet chemistry machine

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<v Speaker 2>and they can test for anything. We know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>cowsum levels are, we know the peroxide values, how old

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<v Speaker 2>the product is, test for salmonilla, all that, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We can test for it, and if it's good, it

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<v Speaker 2>moves into the receiving pit of us. No good to

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<v Speaker 2>turn around, they leave and uh so our our suppliers

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<v Speaker 2>who we buy our products from, no, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. So they send us good product. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to take the time and sending us a product

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<v Speaker 2>that's not any good knowing we're going to reject it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they got to try to sell somebody else or

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<v Speaker 2>get do something else with it. So we get we

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<v Speaker 2>get premium product, and the grains come in, they go

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the grain side, and negga n loaded

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<v Speaker 2>and the silos. Any of the meat meals that we use,

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<v Speaker 2>like a beef meal, chicken meal, portmeal, fish meal goes

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<v Speaker 2>inside and we can receive four trucks an hour. Well

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<v Speaker 2>why does that matter? Because if you can only receive

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<v Speaker 2>one truck an hour, that's all you can make. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we can receive four trucks an hour. So somebody

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<v Speaker 2>plays the truck truck loload order today. You know, day's Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>We can deliver it to my Monday, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>we can get it made pretty quick because of the way

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<v Speaker 2>they design this facility, Yeah, built in scalability.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they come into the to the receiving pit,

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<v Speaker 2>receive the meals, and all that stuff goes into big,

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<v Speaker 2>big storage towers. If you look at the plant's like

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<v Speaker 2>a big stack in the air, but it's all different

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<v Speaker 2>storage bins. And then when we're going to make a

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to run a formula and augusts mixed together

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<v Speaker 2>into batching and then all of that product goes in

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their rices, the grains and the meat meals

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<v Speaker 2>all go into a hammer meal if you know what

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<v Speaker 2>a hammer meal if you don't think about a cylinder

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<v Speaker 2>or a coffee can, so to speak, with a rod

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<v Speaker 2>through it and a bunch of little hammers on the

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<v Speaker 2>inside of its spinning real fast. So it just crushes

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<v Speaker 2>it all up into a powder. And we grind that

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<v Speaker 2>so much where it goes through a three sixty fourth

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<v Speaker 2>screen has to fall through the three sixty four so

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like a real fine powder. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 2>goes from that into the extruder extruders that if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call it an oven or cooking process, it's

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<v Speaker 2>where it gets extruded. So they take steam and pressure

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<v Speaker 2>into this extruder. So if you look at the carbohydrates

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<v Speaker 2>out into a kibble. The knives cut it into a

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<v Speaker 2>kibble and that goes up pneumatically over into the dryer,

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<v Speaker 2>and so on and so forth. But the unique thing

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<v Speaker 2>much worried about how many tons can we make per hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Right in a pet food manufacturing plant, the more tongs

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<v Speaker 2>You know, tons per our tons p hour. We slow

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<v Speaker 2>our down a little bit. We want quality more than quantity,

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<v Speaker 2>so we slow our ours cooking process, so to speak, down,

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<v Speaker 2>grind a little bit longer to get a finer it's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to help with digestibility. If you take a

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<v Speaker 2>handful of popcorn kernels just right of the bag or

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<v Speaker 2>the jar and you swallow them, you're gonna see them again,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna have a belly ache. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>that about corn, right, you pop them in the popcorn,

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<v Speaker 2>you never see that again. You digest it. Right. So

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<v Speaker 2>with the carbohydrates, we pop all those really well, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get a good digest. We know they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of use of the product. So it goes

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<v Speaker 2>over in our in our facility kind of like a

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<v Speaker 2>hall of separation, and it goes from the extruder over

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<v Speaker 2>to the dryer through air. You show up shot over

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the pipeline. That's a break right there.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's any contamination salmonella, that's gonna be on the

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<v Speaker 2>raw side. So the people who work on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the feed meal side, so to speak, the extruder and

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<v Speaker 2>all the receiving pits there, they never intermingle with the

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<v Speaker 2>people on the post cook side. They have different break rooms,

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<v Speaker 2>different time clocks. They see each other. They come to work,

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<v Speaker 2>and they see each other they leave. They don't intermingle

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<v Speaker 2>during the day. That's how you control food safety contamination

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<v Speaker 2>one way. So it goes over into the dryer, comes

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<v Speaker 2>in about twenty percent moreture. We drive down to about

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<v Speaker 2>eight percent and then it goes into the fat coder

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<v Speaker 2>cooler and over into the backing uh, and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>bagged up into the warehouse. It's pretty simple, but slow

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<v Speaker 2>and steady wins their race every time. Yeah, buying quality ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>If we buy quality ingredients, we can produce a quality kibble.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think that it's just really clear while

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking the how matters, you know. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>having that level of transparency and being able to I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like, I mean, it's not like you're a scientist

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<v Speaker 1>or like a nutritionist in there doing the work, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're share It sounds like they're sharing most everything,

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<v Speaker 1>even with the sales guy, you know, the rep, the

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that's out there interacting with people. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the a company that's willing to be transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like the fact that there's there's two two owners,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Also the fact that they've worked together for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, like kind of proves that they trust each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And they must be some pretty good old boys. They're

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<v Speaker 1>good and shared passions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're there their family, you know, family minded

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<v Speaker 2>family meaning and we're all one big family work here,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've all worked with them in the past and and.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, so every back comes with a little bit of family.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely exactly right, you know it. Uh, it's it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not a big, big capital venture. You know, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>brand there's some good brands out there, but they're owned

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<v Speaker 2>by big, big corporations and it's just you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not much passion into it. You know a lot of marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like there's a lot more bioavailability inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the product you guys are putting out versus other.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, there's there's there's different forms of minerals you can get.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get rock form, or you can get organic.

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<v Speaker 2>We use organic for for example. UH, selenium is a

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<v Speaker 2>great product. It's great. They're using selenium to slow down

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<v Speaker 2>the aging process with Alzheimer's patients. There's fighting cancers that

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<v Speaker 2>selenium will help increase the egg count and the females

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<v Speaker 2>burn counting the males. UH slows down oxidation. The rock

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<v Speaker 2>form will be a sodium selenite or a sodium sellingate. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of pet food companies use that. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you look look at that up it's it's has to humans.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes in a box with skull and crossbones on it.

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<v Speaker 2>We use cellplex, a form of selenium yeast, and it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from all Tech over in Lexington, Kentucky area. It

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<v Speaker 2>come right up through the ground. It's it's organic, there's

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<v Speaker 2>free right in the bloodstream, so they get full full

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<v Speaker 2>use of that product. Is it costs a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more money, but the benefits out weigh the negatives, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth spending a little bit extra more money. We

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<v Speaker 2>trademark the term Sciences in the bag and we believe

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you'll have some brands that advertised, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>for skin and coat for gut health, Well, all of

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<v Speaker 2>ours are for skinning coat and gut health, every one

419
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<v Speaker 2>of them. Yeah, And we've got twelve formulas now and

420
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<v Speaker 2>for more coming out by the end of the year,

421
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<v Speaker 2>so we'll have sixteen formulas by the end of the year.

422
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<v Speaker 2>And every one of the war formulas are about gut health.

423
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<v Speaker 2>And then we have some that are more a little

424
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<v Speaker 2>bit specific for skinning coat, and we have some with

425
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<v Speaker 2>lucosamin and androit and the hips and joints, and there's

426
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of foods that advertise that they use lucosamin

427
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<v Speaker 2>and android, but if you look at it, against's an

428
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<v Speaker 2>tag dress three hundred milligrams. We're using eight hundred and

429
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<v Speaker 2>fifty to nine hundred milligrams you know per kilogram in

430
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<v Speaker 2>the back. So that's therapeutical levels for skin and coat

431
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<v Speaker 2>or for the hips and joint. And why why would

432
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<v Speaker 2>does hown guys care about that? Well, to think about it,

433
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<v Speaker 2>how many times have you took your dogs out and

434
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<v Speaker 2>hunting and you go get them out of the dog

435
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<v Speaker 2>box and you get home or the next morning you

436
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<v Speaker 2>see them come calling down the dog out, stoved up

437
00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and they're just stiff. Well, the coastman, you're great and

438
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<v Speaker 2>will help help with that. Yeah, And so it helps

439
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<v Speaker 2>to recovery a lot faster.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe less trips to.

441
00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:35.839
<v Speaker 2>The absolutely absolutely. And when you're hunting, you know, multiple

442
00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:37.960
<v Speaker 2>nights a week or multiple days a week and hunting hard,

443
00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you got to keep those dogs fresh, you know, and

444
00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.319
<v Speaker 2>keep them feeling good. I tell people, you know, we

445
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<v Speaker 2>can survive, you know, we can survive off anything. We can.

446
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Here at this hotel, they've got a breakfast down there

447
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and it any very good one. It's that stuff that's

448
00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:53.920
<v Speaker 2>bought frozen and you throw it to the microwave. When

449
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<v Speaker 2>you eat it, you can eat it and you can survive.

450
00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.039
<v Speaker 2>You can live off that, but it's not very nutritious

451
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<v Speaker 2>for you. We can go out to night and go

452
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<v Speaker 2>to the Chinese buffet or a Mexican Mexican place, and

453
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<v Speaker 2>we can eat all the food we want. We can

454
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<v Speaker 2>drink tequila and beer all night long and get up

455
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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and go build fence. But I promise you we're

456
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<v Speaker 2>gonna hit our thumb. We're gonna we're gonna defence. It

457
00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:12.960
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be a little crooked. Something's gonna be off. But

458
00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:16.559
<v Speaker 2>if we'll drink ice water, ice tea and eat, you know,

459
00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:19.920
<v Speaker 2>a good clean meal steak, chicken, breast, pork chops or whatever,

460
00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and get a good night's sleep, well we'll have less

461
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.880
<v Speaker 2>mistakes tomorrow. We work same way with these With these hounds,

462
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<v Speaker 2>whether you're competition hunting or just pleasure hunting, you want

463
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<v Speaker 2>them their minds sharp and feeling good, and they're gonna

464
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<v Speaker 2>perform for a lot better. And in the big, the

465
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<v Speaker 2>big tonehound events. You know, the difference between going home

466
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<v Speaker 2>and a brand new truck, or you know twenty thousand

467
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<v Speaker 2>and thirty thousand dollars could be five seconds, and the

468
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<v Speaker 2>difference between five seconds could be how you feel you know,

469
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<v Speaker 2>a decision you make. So no, no dog food is

470
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<v Speaker 2>gonna make your dog a world champion. Uh, but it

471
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<v Speaker 2>could sure enough hell or hurt you.

472
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can see that difference even inside of

473
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<v Speaker 1>me right now. Like I so, my wife and I

474
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<v Speaker 1>we've we've cleaned up what we've been eating and we're

475
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<v Speaker 1>doing like a reset diet. We're doing carnivore and so

476
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.279
<v Speaker 1>it's all like animal products is all we're eating, Like

477
00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, meat and you know, some dairy and stuff.

478
00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.759
<v Speaker 1>We're doing a little dirty carnivore. But yeah, but I

479
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<v Speaker 1>can tell you, like just with for one, the amount

480
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<v Speaker 1>of waste that my body gives off is nothing compared

481
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<v Speaker 1>to what it was before when I was eating eating

482
00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of wider things. It's clear that my body

483
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<v Speaker 1>is designed to do something with that nutrition, that meat

484
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<v Speaker 1>to where it's like I feel better, I wake up

485
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<v Speaker 1>and I don't have a mental fog. There's there's a

486
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<v Speaker 1>lot of times before with just like a normal diet

487
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.519
<v Speaker 1>that I would uh it would take me a while

488
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<v Speaker 1>to shake a fog out out of my brain. I

489
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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be as sharp. And then my energy levels are

490
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<v Speaker 1>more sustained throughout the day and I can't help but

491
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<v Speaker 1>think that it would be that way inside of inside

492
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>of dog food too.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you know, dog really no different than us. Yeah,

494
00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>it does make a big, big difference in what you

495
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:11.839
<v Speaker 2>feed your dog and how they perform. And uh, you

496
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<v Speaker 2>know you can you can buy cheaper dog foods out

497
00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>there and you'll feed two or three times more. You know.

498
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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to a guy had a stock dog

499
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<v Speaker 2>trial and he said, I'm not I'm not saying this

500
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<v Speaker 2>just because you're here. You said, but since I've started

501
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:25.039
<v Speaker 2>feeding your dog food, I went from buying eight bags

502
00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:28.079
<v Speaker 2>a month to five the same amount of dogs. And

503
00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:30.440
<v Speaker 2>that's the savings right there. It may cost a little

504
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 2>bit more per bag, but your overall cost per day

505
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<v Speaker 2>feeding is going well. Well.

506
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<v Speaker 1>Even eating this carnivore diet, I'm not hungry near as much.

507
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.039
<v Speaker 1>I eat a lot less volume wise, I eat what

508
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<v Speaker 1>I need. And uh yeah, I could see that. The

509
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<v Speaker 1>last time that I went and looked through a store

510
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<v Speaker 1>to try to pick out a new pet food and

511
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>new dog food, I was overwhelmed with all the options.

512
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, like what should I feed my dog?

513
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<v Speaker 1>So talk about how some one should think whenever they're

514
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<v Speaker 1>going in to choose one of the formulas that you

515
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:05.400
<v Speaker 1>guys have.

516
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:09.319
<v Speaker 2>The fattest fuel, protein builds muscle. Some people have it wrong.

517
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<v Speaker 2>They think, well, I got to feed a thirty twenty

518
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<v Speaker 2>or a thirty five twenty five protein and fat. That

519
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>protein and high protein, you're gonna give my dog a

520
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of hoodre You're gonna really pump them up. No,

521
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.039
<v Speaker 2>that's not true. It's the fat, fattest fuel. Protein builds

522
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>muscle and help to recover. And a dog can only

523
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>really process thirty percent, no more than thirty percent protein anyway.

524
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<v Speaker 2>So if you're feeding your dog. When we used to

525
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<v Speaker 2>have one in prior, like we had a forty two

526
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 2>percent protein to hot, we didn't really know. But we

527
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>know now that they're gonna most that's gonna be excreted

528
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>through the year. You know, if you get over thirty percent,

529
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.680
<v Speaker 2>they really can't process that anyway. So think about your

530
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>dog's at activity level and then they choose your protein

531
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and fat. You know, if if you're hunting a couple

532
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<v Speaker 2>of nights a week, you can probably get away. Just

533
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<v Speaker 2>find a twenty four to twelve or twenty six eighteen.

534
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Twenty six eighteen is a really good all around you know,

535
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<v Speaker 2>we're coming in the fall of the year, are getting colder.

536
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Dog's gonna eat more to help stay warmer. They're gonna

537
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.680
<v Speaker 2>burn more calories. So if you feed a twenty four

538
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.799
<v Speaker 2>to twenty all high energies, not all, but most of

539
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>all the high energies you ever see, there are twenty

540
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.559
<v Speaker 2>four twenty four percent protein, twenty percent fat, and then

541
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 2>use it goes from there to a thirty twenty more

542
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a little more protein if you need it. The bully

543
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>guys and then we love the bully guys and they

544
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.039
<v Speaker 2>love our food, but they would feed a fifty percent

545
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>protein diet if they could, just because they think they're

546
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:28.559
<v Speaker 2>gotta have it to get them dog really popped their

547
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.920
<v Speaker 2>muscles out of and again they can't process that much

548
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>protein anyway.

549
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>It's probably bad on the kidneys too, it.

550
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Is, you know, high protein does not cause kidney problems.

551
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>It is causing them to work. You excrete all that protein.

552
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>But if your dog is born or it already has

553
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>a kidney problem, too much protein could be deadly.

554
00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>So they might have to drink a lot more water.

555
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you know, too much phosphorus, and that comes

556
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>with buying too much ash in your diet. I think

557
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>about when I talked earlier about too much calcium, because

558
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they're getting buying too much bone and ash. Well, that's

559
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.599
<v Speaker 2>causing too much phosphorus. Is a direct correlation to the

560
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.799
<v Speaker 2>kidney disease, which is the nuber one kill dogs anyway,

561
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and there is there is some science to it. But

562
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>just come on your dog's activity level. So a lot

563
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>of guys in the winter time, they'll feed a twenty

564
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>four to twenty or thirty twenty in the wintertime. In

565
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>the summer time, when they're not hunting much nothing, they'll

566
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:14.039
<v Speaker 2>feed more of a maintenance or a norse normally active,

567
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>lower protein, lower fat dog food. But if you're hunting

568
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 2>a year round hard, you know, you might feed at

569
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty six eighteen and then just feed a little bit

570
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>more in the wintertime. You see so many things out there,

571
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>there's so much marketing. I've sold a lot of dog

572
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>food in my life, but I have never ever sold

573
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a bag of dog food to a dog. I've always

574
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>sold it to the dog's owner, To a person, A

575
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of emotion goes into buying dog food. You know, hey,

576
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>that'll boy, give me a couple of hats. I better

577
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>try his dog food. You know that doesn't make no

578
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.119
<v Speaker 2>sense to me. But know exactly what you're buying, and

579
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>know what your dog need is. There's no need in

580
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 2>feeding the high protein, high fat diet. If you don't

581
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>need that, it's just a waste. And when it talks

582
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 2>about calories per cup, you know calories. We know that

583
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>you need a higher You got a performance dog, I

584
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>need to fight feed higher calories. Everybody should measure their

585
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 2>cakews per cup the same way. You take this aight

586
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 2>downce coffee cup right here, you scoop up your kibble,

587
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 2>you weigh it out. There's a mathematical formulation you do

588
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>to get your cake cows. If you take that same cup,

589
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 2>then that kibble, then you grind it. Well, now you've

590
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:20.680
<v Speaker 2>got more room. Dad's more so it looks like it's

591
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.359
<v Speaker 2>more dense, and it's not. Uh So. Some people will

592
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 2>advertise real high cake cows and they may be fibbing

593
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a little. You know, I'm back early in the days.

594
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I've talked people, so how you can feed your X

595
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 2>number of how many cups a day are you feeding?

596
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I just feed one or two cups of dog foo today?

597
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Ain't no way. Let me see your dog, let me

598
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 2>see your cup. Well, then they ring you McDonald's thirty

599
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>two ounce cup. I'm like, no, man, a cup eight

600
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>ounces as a cup because I was the same way

601
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 2>early on. I didn't know. Yeah, I used the coffe again,

602
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I feed one can of day how much foods that can?

603
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't know? Or I use an automatic feeder

604
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>A lot of us, a lot of us. How guys

605
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>do that too, And there's nothing wrong with that, but

606
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you need to check on it. You know, how's the

607
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>dog talk to you? Some people think they actually do

608
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>talk to you that, but through their food consumption, through

609
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>their input and their output and how they perform is

610
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 2>how they talk to you. Yeah, you need to so

611
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.079
<v Speaker 2>much water they're drink and how much food drinking and

612
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff?

613
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 1>So well, great, Well, where can guys fine? Next level?

614
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys are still pretty early as far

615
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>as getting on the shelves. It sounds like from what

616
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>late twenty twenty three.

617
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's amazing how fast it is grown. Since

618
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 2>we started last year a bout a year. At twelve

619
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>months now, we're just close to twenty five hundred retailers

620
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>across the country. We're we're We've had retailers in every

621
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>state in the United States. You can find us go

622
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>to our website and put in your zip code and

623
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 2>it'll populate but stores around you, and that's getting updated daily.

624
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I had two new stores this morning, one in Taaloqa, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>and one in Glenwood, Arkansas. But you can also go

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<v Speaker 2>to Chewy. We're on Chewy now Chewy dot com. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>we're on there. Amazon, our website, you can we're up

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<v Speaker 2>our website. But there's plenty places around and it's growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got an interest in it and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>find it, and you can go to info at uspetfood

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<v Speaker 2>dot com or our website. It's into an email and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll get hold of one on US reps. You email

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<v Speaker 2>me directly, be White at uspetfood dot com, look me

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<v Speaker 2>up on Facebook. I'm not hard to find. We're always

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<v Speaker 2>available at that telephone and there's a few minutes we've

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<v Speaker 2>been talking. It's gone off several times already. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the job, and it's part I.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, yeah, I mean, wherever you buy your dog food,

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<v Speaker 1>you might mention it to them too. I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>pop up at the local farmers co op. How would

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<v Speaker 1>people stay up with Next Level because I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are expanding rapidly right now, and I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of exciting things that you guys are getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just you know, our Facebook page is the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to really follow. You know, we're active. We do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of dog trials. You know, we've sponsored several

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<v Speaker 2>coon hunting events and stock dog events, bully dog shows

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<v Speaker 2>and the fancy a case type dog shows, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>always looking for places to partner and be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of it in it's just gotta be a good a

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<v Speaker 2>good fit for both of us. But we're out and

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<v Speaker 2>about all the time, you know, but looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>growing more and more. And uh uh, it's exciting to

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<v Speaker 2>see the difference that makes you know our product. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's always cool to see those videos or those pictures

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before and after. You know, people you can't

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<v Speaker 2>buy one bag of dog food and see see a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to see a difference on ours pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 2>In the in the stewl volume, if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>buy a bag of Next Level of dog food, put

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<v Speaker 2>it on that dog and that dog only or that

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<v Speaker 2>only feed. Next Level no trees on nothing for thirty days,

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<v Speaker 2>you will see a difference, but usually it takes a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months or let's see a big, big, big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>But some folks, you know, they they want to see

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<v Speaker 2>overnight success. And you can on some things, uh and digestion,

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<v Speaker 2>on urs, you can. Most dog foods you got to take.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to take seven to ten days to do

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<v Speaker 2>a transition ours. You know, you could probably go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and switch, yeah and not have no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always best to take a couple of days, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I always do a coult switch. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to see the value of dog food, to switch

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<v Speaker 2>it overnight, see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well cool, Well thanks Brandon, you bet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, I really am looking forward to going and

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<v Speaker 1>checking out the setup down here in Mount Pleasant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm excited. You've had you guys come down. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you come down and go through it? I know they

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<v Speaker 2>those guys like to give tours and see how it's made.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm looking forward to going to some some bear

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<v Speaker 2>trials and I want to go bear hunting with some hounds. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well I'm looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have some some ideas well. Cool. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>catch you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>I better take care.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for listening. The Bear Hunting Magazine hund Cast

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