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Speaker 1: Welcome to Way Did You Talk Today, the gold standard

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of sports betting shows where he talked the talk and

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walk the Walk. It's Thursday. Great mix, great mix of

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guests and sports. We got some current action in NFL,

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we got college football, we got NBA excited about today's show.

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Being joined as always by my good friend Dan Dan,

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who we got on Who's Who's on the show today?

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Who's gonna bring it home on this Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Well, we know that Yanni who usually does his Steam

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Report right at the top, He's at a wedding in Philadelphia.

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I'm sorry, folks. Awesome Johnny also has a life and

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has has things to do, but he will be back

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for Steam Reports. But guess what, we didn't lose anything

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because we got Steve Merrill filling in for him. He's

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gonna go over some new features on the Odds Logic

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site that you can maybe start doing your own Steam reports, folks.

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So we're gonna talk about that with Steve at the top.

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He's also got to play for you in some college

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football action tomorrow. We'll talk Bill's jaggeduars as well, and

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a little NBA play Cavaliers timber Wolves coming from Steve

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and then the great Joe Rinary joining us. He'll talk

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the other game, the one that is going tonight, that's

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Miami taking on Ole Miss in the Fiesta Bowl. Rams

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panthers his thoughts on the biggest favorite on the NFL

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Wildcard slate. And then he gave us that nice winner

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on the Heat last week. He's gonna talk heat and bowls.

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The Heat actually a favorite this time, so he lay points?

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Does he take points? We'll find out with Joe Rnari

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and then Andy, you and I him a little deep dive,

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a little look back, if you will. We were gonna

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do this on on New Year's where we were gonna

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take stock in what happened in twenty twenty five, look

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forward to what's coming in twenty twenty six. But with

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two guests today, it's a great way to do it today.

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So join us in the comments with that. It's gonna

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be a hell of a show. Andy and Brentford three

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to zero win. Oh what a sweat? Oh eleven on

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the free plays here, baby, let's keep it rolling.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely crushed him.

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Speaker 3: Lot.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I forgot the game was in the afternoon

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when cha.

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Speaker 2: You logged on and saw the score and you were like, man, yeah,

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I guess you could have even laid the handicap, could

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have laid the Asian handicap the goal in three quarters

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if you if you will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is it called an Asian handicap?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If it feels it feels icky, you could just call

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it a socks soccer. I think it's because that's how

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that's how all of their lines typically go in, like

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Asian sports betting, as you can bet quarter lines.

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Speaker 5: But regardless, you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't like it. It makes me feel weird.

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Speaker 1: When I say it. It is weird. So all right,

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you know who's not weird? Steve Merrill?

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I'm so glad that you didn't bring me

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in thirty seconds sooner because I'd so many.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no that we know better than that.

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Speaker 5: Don't call it an Oriental handicap. That's not appropriate. That's

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what it was called thirty years ago. And there's so

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many things we could do here though, But it's so

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funny when Dan said Asian handicap and sat weird with

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me too. I was like, what the hell is Dan doing? Like,

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what the hell are you talking?

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Speaker 6: What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: Why is he picking on half the world? Right, now

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quarter lines. I still I've been doing this thirty years.

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I'm not a big soccer better in the other sports,

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and I probably should know this, and I've learned it

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three or four times, but the whole quarter life still

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confuses the hell out of me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, there for Carmine, I would still not He's had

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to explain it to me like four times. I think

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I finally get this vaguely. At least you're splitting your

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bet between two different bets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will never forget when live on air I

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had to explain to Teddy what the same game parlay

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was really that was. Yeah, he's in Vegas. He's in Vegas.

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was like, what's the same game parlay.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's.

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Speaker 5: The same game Asian parlay. Don't even start me on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're screwed on that one. No, But I

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remember that show because Teddy, of course, he's more traditional

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better you know, he's a sides and totals kind of guy,

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able to put those those options together. But in the

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same game, and Andy was like, old, let me break

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something down for you. There's something that these people tell

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us to bet our entire bank roll on, and that

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is same game parlay draft gings. And Andela's like, please

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bet these same game parlays. And Andy cracked the code

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on betting them SGP.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't play for the thunder, but it's an SGP.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve, we got some huge games. And thank

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you for jumping in. Last second. Yanni is celebrating the

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institution of marriage today. Not he's not getting married, but

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he celebrated people. Now, all right, Oregon in Indiana. Remember

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I went to IU, be very very careful with how

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you break this game down. My Hoosiers are three and

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a half favorite over under forty eight. I'm just kidding.

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Tell us your real opinion. How do you break this

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big game down?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 5: I've got a standalone video for this game went up

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a couple of days ago, nice and early, so people

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want to deep dive, full ten minute deep dive into

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this one. Check out the video here on Wait You

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Talk TV. I've also got a video for tonight's Thursday

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night matchup between Ole Miss and Miami, So that one

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is also available deep dive in that Joe's going to

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go over that game in a moment. As I said

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in the video, I've had Indiana as my number one

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team now for several months. I had them as ranked

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higher than Ohio State when they played. People that watched

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that video will called it. I like the Hoosiers. In fact,

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I use them as a best bet for my clients

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as a live dog. They won that game outright, So

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I am a believer in Indiana. And you know, obviously

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Oregon is a very good team too. In fact, I

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think this is basically the national championship game. Whoever wins

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this game will be favored over the Miami Ole Miss

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winner next week. So this is these are the two

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best teams remaining, and Oregon is a very solid opponent.

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rate them as the stronger offensive and defensive team in

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this game. I rate them as the best offense and

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defensive team, or many of anybody in the final four.

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Line is a little pricey, though. My ten thousand game

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simulation has Indiana by about two so at three and

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a half you are paying a premium. I would have

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liked it more at minus three or less, very key number.

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of the sharpest global books, Three and a Half's Juice,

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number of three. In fact, if you like Indiana, you

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probably should play three and a half, because there are

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some fours showing. If you like Oregon, maybe shop around

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and wait, get that plus four might be available by

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kickoff tomorrow night on Friday. I will point out this

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is a rematch, of course, from the regular season, and

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another thing historically that actually doesn't favor Indiana here is

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that the rematch teams normally they lose the second time out.

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not mistaken, I think there's been six rematches the last

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couple of years in this playoff format, and the only

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time that the team has swept was when Old Miss

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beat Tulane in the first round this year, and of

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course they were a two and a half touchdown favorite,

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so it's not like that was something special. Otherwise, the

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revenge teams are five and oh recently, including Old Miss

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against Georgia last week. With that said, though, I'm not

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gonna let that steer me towards Oregon because Indiana won

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that game. Legit, they outplayed Oregon on the road. They

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were actually a seven point dogen. So here again a

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pretty big line adjustment. You take maybe, say what two

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three points out for home field. That line was say

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four and a half, it's now three and al we're

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talking about about an eight point adjustment, a full touchdown

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adjustment from just a few months ago. But it's warranted

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because Indiana is the best team in the nation. And

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we talk about how bad those teams with the BIB

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have done the last two years. They're one in seven

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straight up the last two years with this twelve team format,

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the team that had the extended layoff has gone one

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in seven. Well, the one team that didn't go oh

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and seven was Indiana, and they won b over thirty points,

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so they were in a terrible situation. Historically the other

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teams were oh and seven and they still won by

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over thirty. I think this is a really powerful team.

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Madison he's carried right over to Indiana the last two

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years and I'd rather have the better team on both

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sides of the ball in a basic, straight up win situation,

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if you're going to play it, I would lay it

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with the Indiana Hoosiers. Andy langs Indiana Hoosiers at seven

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thirty Eastern Friday night on the ESPN, Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with all my Yeah, I'm going to hang

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out with all my college buddies tomorrow to watch them.

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We're still just on text threads, like I can't believe

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we're getting together to watch you in the National Championship

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semi final.

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Speaker 5: This And did you see some of the numbers? I

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in my video and I don't have them in front

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of me. But since the history of Indiana football, which

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they their long term win percentage in like over the

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last centuries, like forty two percent or something. I've been

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ranked as it was a top five I think for

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like a combined seven weeks in one hundred years or something.

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Ohio State, what they've done to some other good teams,

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and what they did to Oregon in that game on

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the road. They just continue to win. Oregon, by the way,

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is one eighth straight and they've covered six or the

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last say they're a really good team as well. So

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nothing would surprise me here. But I do think that

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this is the national championship game.

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Speaker 1: I've told people this story so my senior year. I

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don't know why we tried to do this. They made

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their homecoming game against Ohio State when Ohio State was

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number one, and they hyped. They hyped the campus and

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the students up for a week come out support the team.

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We got something special playing and I'll never forget. It

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was like thirty five degrees, it was drizzling rain, and

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Ohio State ran the opening gickoff like right down our

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throats down to the twenty and I think everyone was

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gone by halftime. That's my That is my memory of

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what IU football is, and so to now just see

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where we are is crazy. I wanted to ask you

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about the line movement because I think there's a lot

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of people that would say, well, you have to play

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Oregon because just earlier in the season, IU was the

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big underdog, right, you can't have this big of a

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line swing, So you know you're getting the best of

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the Oregon number. What do you like? What's your take

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on looking at it from that perspective?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I talk a lot about the preseason numbers.

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you know, June, July August, and people always say, you

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teams have overachieved or underachieved, and we get those in

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college football, we get look ahead lines as well. One

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it was in August, does not make you money because

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the line was just wrong back then. And this is

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a situation like that. Because that line was just wrong

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back in October, Indiana was the better team. The better

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teams should never be getting seven points on the road,

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and they prove that it is a little bit of

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an adjustment because it's not like Oregon has played worse since.

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since that loss, and they've gone six and two against

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the spread. I will point out though, that Oregon was

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a double digit favorite in every game but three the

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games they weren't a double digit favorite. They only beat

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Iowa on the road by two. They did beat Washington

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on the road by double digits and cover. And of

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course they beat Texas Tech last week, and we'll talk

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about that real quick for one turnover edge and Texas

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Tech was off that extended layoff. You know, we have

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to be so careful to overreact to last week's games

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because we've seen now for two years in a row,

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the teams with the extra time off have gone one

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and seven and it's not a fluke. College football is

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so offensive oriented, passing, precision, explosive offense like Texas Tech

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does not benefit from the layoff. And once again, who

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was the one team that came out and bucked that trend.

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It was Indiana and they did it with authoritie by

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thirty five points. So yes, it's an extended line move,

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and like I said, I make it a round two.

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So I would have liked to have gotten that key

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number of three instead of three and a half. But

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I wouldn't read too much into it. They were the

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better team a few months ago into the better team.

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Speaker 1: Now we move on to the NFL. We've got a

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massive game, Bill's Jags. There's a lot of We've talked

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about this game a lot. Is this the two best teams?

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Is this a game featuring the two best teams in

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the AFC? I mean the line is one and a half.

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I mean it's kind of based on in some spots. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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over unders fifty one and a half. This is at Jacksonville.

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Interested in your take, I've heard a little bit of

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everything on this game. What say you? What do you

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like in this one?

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Speaker 5: Well, I will say my first reaction when I saw,

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you know, Jacksonville having such an incredible season, I was like,

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they're a phony team. They have no playoff experience. I

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don't think they're as good as their record. In fact,

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they even had a chance of the one seed going

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into the final week a week ago. With that said, though,

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as I dug into this game more. I think you

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got to be cautions with Buffalo. I mean I stick

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back to Week one, you know, when they had a

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one percent chance of winning with four and a half

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minutes to go against Baltimore and that Sunday night opener

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found a way to do it down what was it

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twenty one to nothing against New England a few weeks ago,

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found a way to come back. Buffalo's defense is still

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very suspect, and this should be a high scoring game.

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And you look at the total open fifty one and

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a half, it's still hovering around fifty one and a

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half fifty two. I point that out because fifty one

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is a key number, about a three to four percent

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chance this game lands exactly fifty one. A lot of

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margins get us there. Obviously, thirty one to twenty forty

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one to ten. I don't think we'll get that score,

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but there's a lot of margins that gets you to

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fifty one. Twenty seven to twenty four one way the

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other is probably the most likely outcome in this game.

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Also a little surprised that Buffalo is not more of

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a public side in this game, a lone opened one.

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As Dan pointed out, there are some pick coms out

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there now and for some of the publican senses, I

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look at as actually leaning towards Jacksonville a little bit.

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So the public seems to be a believer in the

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Jags here, which surprised me a little bit. But I

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think it's hard to make a case of the under

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in this game. Yes, playoff football, playoff basketball, whatever sport

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has more defensive intensity, but I'm just not sure these

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teams are that great on the defensive side of the ball.

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You look at the Bills once again this season. They're

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average at every twenty eight points a game. Jacksonville's averaging

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that twenty eight points a game. Both teams can move

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the football. Bills are a below average defense. They gave

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up twenty one and a half points a game this

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year against teams that's averaged about twenty one and a

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half points. They gave up five point five yards per

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play against teams that average just five point four. Jacksonville

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is actually the better defensive team, give enough five point one.

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They played a fairly week schedule as well, And the

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real difference here is while Jacksonville is a decent defense statistically,

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Buffalo stops the pass well, but they do not defend

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the run. Well, they're giving up over five yards of carry,

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and that's a problem. In the NFL playoffs, you've got

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to be able to play smash mouth football dominate the

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line of scrimmage. So I think this is a tight game.

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And if you're going to play that total, since fifty

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one and a half is such an ugly number, maybe

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we start looking at a team total. Buffalo's priced at

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about twenty six and a half Jacksonville twenty four and

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a half, and that's kind of strange considering this game

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is minus one. Even pick them in some spots. Now,

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if you look around, there are some spots with less juice.

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Jacksonville twenty six and a half. I like the Jags

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team total up and over. I think they get to

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twenty seven or more in this game. So twenty four

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and a half juice or twenty six and a half

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no juice not a big difference, because twenty five and

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twenty six are definitely dead numbers. I think it'll be

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a high scoring game. But if you're worried about Jacksonville

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having a decent defense, just take them out of the

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equation and play over that Bill's bad defense. Jacksonville at

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home team total over twenty four and a half makes

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some sense.

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Speaker 1: I got a prop to run by you, Steve, because

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you hit on it. This Bill's rush defense is just

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truly one of the worst. Travis etn to have twenty

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five plus rushing yards in each half plus one twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think another thing to point out is,

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I know Trevor Lawrence is, you know, a college football

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experience quarterback, but he's not an NFL playoff experience quarterback.

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And at home, I think you're gonna probably maybe be

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a little conservative. And that's another reason why the full

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game over maybe makes you a little nervous. It could

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be a slow start and that means they're going to

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run the ball. So and it's a competitive game. Also,

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you know the running back props is, you know, Andy,

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when you're getting blown out, worry in the second half

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because you have to throw the ball. But this should

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be a competitive game throughout. It's a pick on price.

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I'm with you on that one. I think that's an

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interesting way to slice it up.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge day. We're going to get the Cavaliers

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and Tim Rowls with first Televione. What you have up

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at wager Talk I know you got a bunch of

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free plays. What do you have for clients? Give us

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the rundown? What videos do you have your video machine

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on the YouTube cha give us a rundown.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've done both of the NFL the both the

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college football playoff games for Thursday and Friday. Those free

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play videos are up.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to do some NFL video starting today. And

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I held off because I'm going to combine the fade

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the public concept with all the game breakdowns and wanted

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to get the most up to date public information. So

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we'll definitely have the two games for Saturday, the three

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games for Sunday, and then the standalone Monday night football game.

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And I'm excited about Saturday Saturday's video. As we know,

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we went fourteen and three on the prime games this

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year in the NFL on Thursday Night and Dan's Eagles

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on Friday actually would have been fourteen and two otherwise.

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But the point is, I thought we were done with

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prime games until I saw the TV schedule this week.

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Bears Packers Saturday Night is a prime game, so we

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have a chance to improve that to fifteen and three

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in that Saturday video. And it's also the first time

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ever I can combine playoffs with Prime in one video.

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I'm so excited. Check it out here on wager Talk TV.

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Click subscribe click the bill for alerts every single NFL

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Talk TV. I'm the only guy watching when it's Prime

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time for Steve well Dad. They released the schedule last

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Sunday night, like at eleven thirty at night. I'm watching it,

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and I'm the only person that gets excited because I

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was looking at the matchups seeing which days they were,

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and I just they happened to have, like you know,

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in little small fonts the networks, and for some reason,

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I look, just because I mentioned in the videos, and

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I see Prime on the Saturday night game. I'm like, yes,

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I was like, that'll get people excited, because yeah, it's

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been an incredible run, and now we get a Saturday

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Prime game. The thrown to the mix, damn Eagles fourteen

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and two if you take out his damn Thanksgiving Friday game,

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which I had to pick.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, we we we all got over.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I think i'd yeah.

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Speaker 2: We all got burned on that one. Steve, we got

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Joe coming up next. And I had to remove myself

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from on air because Joe might have a little treat

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for for folks coming up here on the show. But

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Steve's got a treat for you right now, tucking Cleveland

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Calves and the Minnesota Timberwolves. How are you betting this one?

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It looks like Minnesota is floating around two and a

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half point favorite Steve two thirty nine and a half. Oh,

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how are you betting this one?

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Speaker 5: So Monday, I came on and did two games here

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with Andy and Dan in the NBA and Wager Talk Today,

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and right after I did the breakdown of the Nuggets sixers,

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it went from nine it was nine to twelve. It

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went from twelve to fifteen because they were sitting. Gordon

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Ann Murray closed it like seventeen. I'd given out the over,

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which I was still okay with, and then of course

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the Nuggets win outright in overtime is like a seventeen

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point dog. The other game I broke down Monday was

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Clippers Golden State. I mentioned the Clippers, and then about

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an hour after I did that show, it was announced

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that Hardy was not going to play, and that line

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goes from minus one to three. The Clippers went outright.

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So it just shows once again the injury information of

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the NBA is so insane. If you just play against

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those teams that are shorthanded, you do well. And I

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bring that up because now lo and behold tonight, Anthony Edwards.

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Injury management. I didn't know that was an injury. It's

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injury management is the injury is questionable to play to

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night against Cleveland and as I checked the Odds logic

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screen live here at twelve twenty eastern, the game is

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off the board in almost every location and started to

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jump around, so we'll see what happens here. But hey, look,

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I'll keep this one short and simple. If you play

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the short handed teams in the NBA, you keep making money.

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It continues to work, and I handicap these games basically

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the same based on situational analysis. Who might be in

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the lineup, Yes, is important, but if you look at

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the recent years that you just play that shorthanded team,

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it's amazing how well they do. And it was a

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perfect two and zero playing the ugly underdogs the other night.

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By the way, Donovan Mitchell as the Cavs is listed

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as questionable to play tonight because of rest. So we

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have both guys questionable in this game. What I will say,

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if it turns out neither one plays, the total will

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probably drop several points. And I actually come in and

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play the overs a lot of times because as we

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saw the other night with Denver, I don't have the

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box scourt in front of me, but there were names

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you would never recognize that had fifteen twenty points for

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the Nuggets. These guys can score in their sleep. They're

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all the best players from college basketball, the best players

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in the world, and they all offensively can score when

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they get the chance. You know, a lot of people

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look at points and everything. I think some guys score

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better than others. There's only one basketball, and there's only

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forty eight minutes in a game, and when other guys

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get a chance to touch that basketball more take more shots,

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they often step up. Uh. For example, right now, Cleveland's

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on a five to one underrun in their last six games.

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their last five. We'll see where things settle this evening

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with the total, with the player situation, But if both

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of those guys are out, we've seen a total around

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two thirty eight two thirty nine today, it's right about

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two thirty eight and a half now being relisted. Don't

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fear that over. I think this will be a playground

478
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style basketball game with no defense in a lot of offense.

479
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Speaker 1: Steve Merrill with breaking down the game with tidbitchs and

480
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information that there's only one basketball preseasons.

481
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Speaker 5: I should have started off this Cleveland Minnesota game with

482
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preseason on handicap NBA preseason Yes, oh he has a

483
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handicap that.

484
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Speaker 1: Game all right, Well, Steve, I'm pretty sure Donovan Mitchell

485
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will play tonight. He rested the other night.

486
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Speaker 5: He did that was from the six. You're right, so

487
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I mean that's another.

488
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Speaker 1: Reason you should play. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 5: Yes, That's what's interesting to me, though, Andy, is that

490
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we're still seeing Minnesota is a two two and a

491
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half point favorite, which makes you wonder if Edwards is

492
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playing right. So it's just difficult to know this early

493
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in the day. But and that totals to be a

494
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lot lower if he doesn't play.

495
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Speaker 1: I think it's just the fate of this Cleveland team.

496
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They just they can't put it together. They've been one

497
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of the biggest underachievers this year. It's been really disappointing.

498
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So I kind of get it. It's a Cleveland team

499
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that it's just underwhelmed. H for sure. So Steve, great job,

500
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Thank you for jumping in. Check him out over at

501
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wager talk dot com. All those free play videos. It

502
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gives you a continued luck on that. Uh that that

503
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big prime run man, Steve. That's that's really cool, really fun.

504
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So I mean, so technically the super Bowl is a

505
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prime game, right.

506
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Speaker 5: I think it's MB it's it's NBC. I believe they've

507
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been promoting that as Olympics and everything.

508
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Speaker 2: That got Peacock game. What's the record on Peacocks Peacock?

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Peacock was what game was that last week?

510
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It was one of those games. Yeah, us there too.

511
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So the problem last year was like over seventy percent

512
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the Thursday night football game last year and I didn't

513
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even keep track of that, and then it started so

514
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:15,200
incredible this year. People kind of were keeping track of

515
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it for me.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

517
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I need to be a little more aggressive

518
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making more of those client best bets. It's one of

519
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those things you love going, you know, I know, you

520
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feel like you go fifteen and three, but it's like

521
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I maybe made three. I think I went like three

522
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and oh one of the best bets actually, but hey,

523
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it's great. Thousands of people are getting building their bank roll,

524
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and then it's it's always a good thing when we

525
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learn and earn and win together. Here Dan Alexander on.

526
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know it, you know it. Rob's already

527
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in there. Let's earn, learn and earn together, Big Banks,

528
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Steve Merrill, WT dot buzz Slash s M, and Andy.

529
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Before we bring Joe in here, I do want to

530
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mention because it's active on your page, on Joe's page,

531
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I mean, this is a hell of a deal that

532
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people can get seven days of acts as basically you're

533
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paying for three days and you're getting four free. Is

534
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:04,119
essentially what you're getting with this deal. Seven days of

535
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,440
all access sixty nine dollars and you can get it

536
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,160
at any of these guys pages. Andy, what do you

537
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,519
got locked and loaded? The night before? We get a

538
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three game breakdown from our man job.

539
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Speaker 1: Sure, I think the hottest thing that we're running in

540
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,920
it right now is boxing. A few months ago we

541
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sput on a boxing place. Well, yaan our cricket department

542
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who is now our boxing department. He thunk it. He

543
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,359
came to me and said we need to put up

544
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boxing places, so seven and one to start the boxing run,

545
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and we have a four percent best bet and this

546
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one's plus money. So that just went up on the

547
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best part is Johnny Detroit said I can put him

548
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up for half price, try and get a little bit

549
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of audience going here. So it's only twelve dollars and

550
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fifty cents for a four percent best bet. If you

551
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want something more long term, which we always recommend, Promo

552
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code Andy one hundred is still live. We had a

553
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horrible night in the NBA. Everything I picked was a loser.

554
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Leans didn't go well. Official plays didn't go well. So well,

555
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:05,559
this is why you get thirty days. If you just

556
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got last night's plays, you're really mad at me. You

557
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,720
get thirty you get thirty days again, we got twenty

558
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nine days. We can show you what we can do,

559
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such as boxing, such as our NFL plays and things

560
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like that. So promo cod Andy one hundred. But if

561
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you just went the box and play it is half price.

562
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That's a WT do buzz Slash al shows the prop

563
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Line Show. First week of doing that going really well.

564
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We almost hit a twenty four to one same game

565
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parlay last night. We were a couple of points away. Yeah,

566
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it was a good one. But our Jay in the chat,

567
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he he did hit his same game parlay. We used

568
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the same we use the same kind of thinking and

569
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he hit his. So that's going really good. Golf show

570
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starts next week, Dan, we will be breaking down golf.

571
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We got a new guest that's going to join me,

572
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and our Fantasy Golf league starts next week. If you

573
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are interested in joining Fantasy Golf, put your email in

574
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the comment section. It's a one and done. You pick

575
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one golf for a week. That's it. We run it

576
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every year. We've been doing it for like twelve years,

577
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So if you want to play Fantasy golf, just put

578
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it in the comment section. So a lot of good

579
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stuff going on. Let's bring in Joe. Joe.

580
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Speaker 2: Ah, Joe, Joe's gonna talk today.

581
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Speaker 6: You like that? You like that out fit?

582
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Speaker 7: I look at that, look at I had no idea

583
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that they were playing today, I really did.

584
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Speaker 2: Oh, this thing just fell out of my closet.

585
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, fell out of.

586
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Speaker 6: Steve my leg.

587
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Speaker 2: Well, Steve and Andy were talking. I was seeing Joe

588
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trying to see how do I lay this perfectly and

589
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drape this so they can see what I have for

590
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a Uh yeah, I mean big time game that night. Joe,

591
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I bet you never thought you would be here on

592
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wager Talk today breaking down Miami and Old miss at

593
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at the start of the season, and you're the man

594
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who helped coin the term we're going to get crystal

595
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ball is getting crystal ball to have a new meaning now, Joe.

596
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Speaker 6: It does.

597
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Speaker 7: It means if you're ranked, you're screwed, and that's pretty

598
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:10,960
much what we've watched Miami do here. Actually, last game

599
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of the season against Pittsburgh, nobody thought that krystal ball

600
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or Miami could win in cold weather on the road.

601
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These are the games they lose, and to everyone's credit,

602
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they're right. I mean, that's why we had so many

603
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nicknames for them, and we always tried to avoid getting

604
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chryst bald.

605
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Speaker 6: But something changed with this team this year and they

606
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took that.

607
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Speaker 7: They rolled it into going into Texas A and M,

608
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one of the hardest places to play in all of

609
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college football at College Station, and they rolled them there.

610
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I mean, that's a damn good offense of Texas A

611
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and M that they held to what three points.

612
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Speaker 6: Then they took it into.

613
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Speaker 7: Another neutral site game on the road to Ohio State,

614
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and boy, oh boy, that didn't work out well. Offense

615
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will be for Ohio State and now Old Men is

616
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next up here. So if defense wins championships, you gotta

617
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love where Miami's sitting right about now here?

618
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Speaker 2: Andy, what and I'm wondering you got your own wardrobe

619
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here going? Yeah, I got nothing. I got you got school.

620
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Speaker 6: Take that off.

621
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Speaker 2: Andy, You're muted, buddy, but but I need a wardrobe

622
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change I got. I'm not gonna go throw my Penn

623
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State ship on. I can tell you that much. Joe, dude,

624
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you're wearing your Eagles song. Who are you kidding? You

625
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,119
know what you're wearing. We know what you got on you. Yeah,

626
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,519
nobody wants to see the banana hammock this or.

627
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Speaker 1: Joe, I got something fun for you. Joe and Andy,

628
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Joe and Andy parlay Miami and Indiana money lines parlay

629
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plus one fifty.

630
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Speaker 7: I I don't know, you know, I didn't get a

631
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chance to look at the future, but you know, if

632
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you get exact match up there, But it does feel

633
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,400
like Indiana and Miami, the storylines would right themselves. It

634
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,480
would just be tremendous to see both of that. Although

635
00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:17,160
it's I gotta tell you the Oregon Miami final. You know,

636
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,240
let's not forget who replaced Crysta Ball at Oregon.

637
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Speaker 6: His name is Dan Lanning.

638
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Speaker 7: So that would also be a very interesting either way,

639
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to have it in Miami's home stadium to play for

640
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a national championship. I can't imagine what that sideline of

641
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Miami will look like.

642
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Speaker 6: I can't.

643
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Speaker 7: I can't imagine the amount of guys that you'll literally

644
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680
have to keep Ray Lewis from running onto the field.

645
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:46,640
Michael argument, Michael, it would be the who's who of

646
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,559
former college football NFL greats that are going to show

647
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,680
up on that sideline.

648
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Speaker 1: Not enough cocaine coming out of Venezuela for I.

649
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Speaker 6: Don't know who.

650
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Speaker 7: Ball players back, because I'm not sure who Indiana could

651
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:09,279
match in college football royalty on the sideline like Miami has.

652
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I think it's just Mendoza. That's all we need. He's

653
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got enough energy for everybody.

654
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Speaker 6: Exactly it. I love it.

655
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if it's Indiana Miami, I might

656
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:26,519
have to make a trip down there. Joey too. So tomorrow, well,

657
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240
let's move to NFL. Here we get the Rams, we

658
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get the Panthers. That's by far the biggest spread of

659
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the weekend here, Rams totally expected to roll. Strange game.

660
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They're getting DeVante Adams back here. I guess it's it

661
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,519
feels like it's if you're taking the Panthers. It's almost

662
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,039
like money line or nothing in this one. But what's

663
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your breakdown on this Rams being this big of a

664
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favorite here with the over under forty six and a half.

665
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Speaker 7: It's always been andy, I think since was it twenty eleven?

666
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I think the number is that when you get to

667
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the wild card, you know, double digit dogs are double

668
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,119
digit dogs. I think for a reason, right, I mean,

669
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the numbers I think bear out where it has been

670
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very not profitable to back double digit dogs in the.

671
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Speaker 6: Wild card round.

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Speaker 7: In fact, I think we've only had one loser over

673
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the years since twenty eleven in which an out dog,

674
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you know, a dog actually ended up winning straight up

675
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a double digit dog, and that was Tennessee back in

676
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twenty nineteen against the Baltimore Ravens, of all people. That's

677
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when vrabel was still there and Derek Henry was still

678
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a Titan. But that's it I mean so, especially these

679
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two teams having actually played against one another, and if

680
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it wasn't for a slight hurricane in the second half

681
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,559
there with a monsoon and the wind blow. I mean,

682
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let's face it, Carolina needed a lot of things to

683
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,359
go well to beat them at home back there, and

684
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what we evan League twelve whatever it was there. You know,

685
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,079
the chance of that happening again slim to none. Here.

686
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,640
You gotta love McVeigh, You gotta love Stafford in this spot.

687
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It would only be lay the points or not at

688
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400
all in this game for me again, ten and a half.

689
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960
You're a ten and a half point dog for a reason.

690
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Why you're even hosting a playoff game as an eight

691
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,039
win team That's a whole different discussion. But kudos to

692
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:31,920
making the postseason. But your trip ends here on Sunday.

693
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Speaker 1: I yeah, I so want to be just make the

694
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cute like ah Panthers though they're gonna shock them. They

695
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,000
lost the must win, Like, how did they lost their

696
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:47,799
must wine?

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Speaker 3: You needed the Falcons who immediately fired their entire the

698
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,200
entire organization got canned after they ended up winning and

699
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,559
putting you in the You should go and hire him

700
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,079
right now.

701
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Speaker 7: Is what you should do because you owe him Carolina

702
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:02,519
in a big, big way.

703
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, and I saw one thing after that Tampa Bay

704
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,480
game too, that there was the debate of like what

705
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,440
did we see out of Bryce Young? You know, he

706
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,920
threw a really bad interception in that game. Sure you

707
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,599
know he made up for it later in the game.

708
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But you know one thing that I think you can

709
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use maybe in a couple of these games, and not

710
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,319
every trend you like, you know, fully go in, but

711
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,680
quarterbacks making their first ever NFL playoffs start versus quarterbacks

712
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,480
with playoff experience. That's ones that have played you know,

713
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:31,480
one or more, not even factoring in guys who have

714
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,440
won Super Bowls twenty and forty straight up twenty thirty

715
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,640
nine and one against the spread since two thousand and two.

716
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,200
So that's Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Drake May. They're all

717
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920
guys who are playing their first playoff game against the

718
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,920
quarterback who was playing another one. So what history out

719
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880
on their side either Joe and even recent history. I mean,

720
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000
if if you want to give one positive, we have

721
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:54,519
to find one positive for the Panthers. It could be

722
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480
raining this week. They when they beat the Rams earlier

723
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,599
this year is raining. That's the one positive you can find.

724
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,799
Speaker 6: You Yeah, and listen, by the way.

725
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 8: Word of advice to Carolina Panther fans don't show off

726
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,519
to Falcons games and celebrates after the Falcons win a

727
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,960
game because they you couldn't win it on your own.

728
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: To get dude, I would just be quiet.

729
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 7: I'd walk celebrating the car, celebrating in the bathroom by yourself.

730
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,079
Do not celebrate and open as if you just won

731
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,960
something at an Atlanta Falcons game.

732
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't that the most NFC South thing ever?

733
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,680
Last week on the show, I said, Tampa Bay's gonna win,

734
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,559
Carolina is gonna cover, and Falcons are gonna knock him

735
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,079
out of the playoffs like it was it was you

736
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,519
knew this is what happens in the NFC.

737
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 6: I'd rather see.

738
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:46,559
Speaker 7: New Orleans and the rookie of the year there play

739
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,559
in the playoffs and anything else, even with his fewer

740
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,359
names as any of us even know on that team.

741
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 6: Uh So, kudos Stylan shung way to go man.

742
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: So they literally had Steve Merrill as they're running back

743
00:33:58,039 --> 00:33:59,839
to end the year, and they still ended up as

744
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,359
the best team on paper in the in the NFC

745
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,240
South ridiculous.

746
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,199
Speaker 1: Joey gonna move to NBA. Your Miami Heat versus this

747
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,760
Chicago Bulls team. I mean this Bulls team that five

748
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,119
and oh start feels like it was eighty three years ago.

749
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Like not only are they losing, they are losing by margin.

750
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,400
They got killed again last night to Detroit. Now your

751
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,440
Miami Heat is minus seven and a half. Waiting to

752
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,599
hear on Hotkaz. I'm not sure if he's gonna play tonight.

753
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,920
We got an over under a two thirty seven and

754
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000
a half. This is a Bulls team. I'm not excited

755
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,000
to bet on. What about you?

756
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 6: No, well you can at this point. I mean, the

757
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,119
injuries are just have stuck.

758
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 7: You know, piled up here, and it feels like they've

759
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,519
kind of lost their way, and now they're welcoming in

760
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,679
a Miami team who it feels like that's what the

761
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,440
Bulls wanted to do. They wanted to go up Tampa.

762
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,679
They wanted volume of shots, they wanted to make some threes.

763
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,719
And to your point, Andy worked really great to start

764
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,599
the season. Yeah, then it didn't work very good at

765
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,119
all after there. It wasn't a great shooting night for Miami.

766
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,760
Last game against the Minnesota Timberwolves. I mean, they struggled

767
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:13,480
a lot there, but I listen, they're not gonna get

768
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,920
any resistance from the Chicago Bulls here in any way,

769
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760
shape or form. We are starting to see some under

770
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,920
money here too, which is interesting enough. Here is maybe

771
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,199
the market things both these teams have slowed down.

772
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 6: I don't I would only.

773
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,199
Speaker 7: Look at the over here, but even at seven seven

774
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,039
and a half, it feels like the Bulls are going

775
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,079
to They're going to try to match tempo for tempo

776
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,440
with the heat, and I just don't think they're gonna

777
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,880
be able to keep up scoring wise in this one.

778
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you one hundred percent of

779
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,079
this Bulls team. I mean, they're not even getting to

780
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,760
one hundred points on their own team total. So it's

781
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,599
it's a brutal, brutal So nope, Well, Joe, I know

782
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,039
you're gonna be having a blast tonight. We'll be rooting

783
00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:01,320
for you for sure. Pull over this Miami, Indiana. I'm serious.

784
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,599
I may have to high tail it down there. So

785
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,159
what do you have up for everyone to wager?

786
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 6: Talk?

787
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,679
Speaker 5: Come on down.

788
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 7: Might be a little call for a temperature in the

789
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
upper sixties low seventies, and I hope you have clothes

790
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,679
for that because it's I might have the light of

791
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,760
fire tonight. I'm just telling you it's getting a little chilly.

792
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,360
Here go get right now, locked and loaded. NFL Wildcard

793
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,679
weekend plays are up. I do have a play tonight

794
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,239
in college football as well as tomorrow night's game there

795
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,239
with Oregon and Indiana. And we've got a couple of

796
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,880
college basketball plays and one NBA and a light card

797
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,840
here tonight. Kind of a little disgusting card, but I

798
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,079
do think I have an angle, andy, and all of it,

799
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,000
like you said, available with that great offer right now,

800
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:50,840
I mean seven days for the price of three.

801
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 6: That is what you got to take advantage of.

802
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Great stuff. Joe, good luck to have fun. I hope

803
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,239
you don't have anything planned early in the morning.

804
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: Yes, no, rip rip that bottle of whistle pig that

805
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,880
you have to exactly all whistle pig enjoy.

806
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 5: Guys.

807
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, Joe, uh Dan, I got a shout out

808
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,599
to Garth. Garth is incredible in our discord at picking volleyball,

809
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
and I'm not kidding. He knows, he knows all these

810
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,920
leagues follows it religiously. He's on a hllacious tear in

811
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920
our discord in volleyball, So shout out to uh to Garth.

812
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,239
He knows his volleyball and he does. He does it

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,360
smart man. He follows the sport. He tells you when

814
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719
he's laying off, he tells you when he's hammering something.

815
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,599
He does a really really good job. So uh, good

816
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,679
job to you Garth himself. Let's go Dan. We can

817
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,519
do all around the world free picks, and then we

818
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:50,599
will do our twenty twenty five recap in our twenty

819
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:54,079
twenty six akad. This is personal and professional. So my

820
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:57,159
guess is if you didn't like the Stranger Things segment,

821
00:37:57,199 --> 00:37:58,519
you probably aren't gonna.

822
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah you can just we can tune out. You can

823
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:02,360
be like f these two guys who'll give us free

824
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440
plays and get deep dives for us. We don't care

825
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,199
what you have to say. Just make us a bicycle clown.

826
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. We do it every year and it gets serious.

827
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,960
But I think it's important to do some self reflection.

828
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:18,199
And David's nice enough to join me in doing this.

829
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,559
Today's all right, free plays, pacers and hornets. I love

830
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,639
these little totals with guys that are playing around twenty minutes.

831
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,760
Will take Ben Sheppard over five and a half points.

832
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,880
He's been productive off the bench since returning from injury.

833
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,000
He's gone over this number in all four games since

834
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:36,079
return eight of eleven from threes during that stretch. Coming

835
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,360
off of his last performance against Charlotte, he started, he

836
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,360
played thirty minutes, but he scored fifteen points. So Ben

837
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,000
Shephard over his points. Dawson Mercer over one and a

838
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:48,280
half shots on goal. This is the biggest streak in

839
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,199
props right now. He's gone over this number and ten

840
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,800
straight games, ten straight games. This is cashed. Each of

841
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,079
the last two against Pittsburgh he's gone over and the

842
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,760
Penguins allowed twenty one shots on goal per game to

843
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,840
forwards and centers. So see if you.

844
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,559
Speaker 5: Can make it eleven.

845
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:06,599
Speaker 1: It's the biggest streak right now. And this comes off

846
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:10,440
the wager Talk free picks page from Rob Vino. College Basketball.

847
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Lamoyne and New Haven Lamoinn minus five. New Haven. This

848
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,199
is their seventh street road game. They've lost five or six,

849
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,519
four of them by six or more points. New Haven

850
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,519
tenth worst three point shooting team there at twenty seven percent.

851
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,159
Lamoyne first home game Since November, they're much better three

852
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,440
point shooting teams. On the free picks page, Rob Veno

853
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,760
likes lamoy and minus five Oh boom free plays.

854
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: So Andy, real quick, before we get into it. I

855
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,920
have to keep it going. People always ask for it,

856
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,639
whether they're following or fading.

857
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh you do have one today?

858
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,039
Speaker 2: You have gee again? I grabbed one right as as

859
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,039
Joe was talking. I dived in on the game tonight

860
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,039
and actually found a player prop for the folks here

861
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,440
tonight that I think makes a good amount of sense.

862
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:00,840
Twelve and five on the WTF and LFG plays is sustainable.

863
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:03,679
Hell no, but we're gonna have fun for the time being.

864
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,719
The play for me, we're looking at the quarterback here

865
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,519
for Ole Miss who impressed last week and really all

866
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:14,760
season long, Trinidad Chambalisse, and we're taking him Andy over

867
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360
twenty three and a half yards rushing. Now, last week

868
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,599
he only has fourteen against Georgia. I'm aware of that,

869
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,039
but he's gone over this number eight times this year,

870
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,159
including outlier games like one hundred and twelve yards that

871
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,000
he had against Tulane. Why are we betting this tonight

872
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:35,599
after he only had fourteen Georgia clearly challenged him. They said,

873
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,400
we're gonna shut down your legs, try and beat us

874
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
with your arm. He did just that. I mean, he

875
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,599
was making incredible plays. He was using his escapability to

876
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,599
extend plays, but was then throwing it downfield.

877
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 5: Miami has a.

878
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: Real chance of getting after this guy tonight, and I

879
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,239
think it's cautioning the win obviously. I think Trinidad Chamblisse

880
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,639
could be on some scramble drills early.

881
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,119
Speaker 6: Andy.

882
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: I think twenty three and a half is just a

883
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,679
tick to I would play this thing up to twenty

884
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,519
eight and a half. As a matter of fact, I

885
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:07,320
think he gets around thirty or more Trinidad Chamblie over

886
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:14,199
twenty three and a half rushyards. W tf, LFG, I

887
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,440
I don't know much is rushing.

888
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,519
Speaker 1: I will I'll go with an LFG because you've been

889
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:24,880
really good at these. Yeah, we'll go go with LFG.

890
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,800
I have wellinion about this one, so.

891
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 6: I like it.

892
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: Comment below. Let me know you following or fading again

893
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,880
twelve and five on these plays. The regression is coming,

894
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,679
but let's have fun before it does.

895
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,039
Speaker 6: Baby.

896
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's yeah, you're getting big time,

897
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,400
big time agreement here. Rob likes it. John Gang likes it,

898
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,000
so I can't argue with the hot hand there, Dan.

899
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:58,199
So all right, let's do twenty twenty five personal professional

900
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:01,119
recap and what we're looking to in two thousand and

901
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:04,880
twenty five. So I will go first here, twenty twenty

902
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,280
five biggest professional win. This one was tough because I

903
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,559
had two big ones, and so obviously launching my skincare

904
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:17,039
was a huge professional win for me, but then hosting

905
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:19,920
wager Talk today. I mean, those are the two biggest ones,

906
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,679
and I couldn't pick one. I really couldn't pick one.

907
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,039
I have a tie for my biggest professional win, so

908
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,840
that's fair, Yeah, yeah, I just I just couldn't say

909
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,920
this one's over the other. So what was your biggest

910
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,519
professional win?

911
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:35,559
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a no brand and they're sitting alongside

912
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,559
you here, Andy. We joke about it all the time.

913
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:41,039
When I first started here, you know, producing behind the scenes.

914
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,519
One of my main goals, or one of my main

915
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,320
jobs here was producing a NASCAR show with Andy Lang.

916
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,880
We were recorded every single week together, and I never

917
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,079
thought in a million years we would be getting to

918
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:58,679
sit alongside I always loved working with Andy, but siting

919
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,840
alongside him being the second chair here on what I

920
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,559
personally think is one of the best daily sports betting

921
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,440
shows that is on there. This community that we've been

922
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,239
able to build, that you started and I've gotten to

923
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,159
be a part of as well, that we, you know,

924
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:16,079
get to piggyback off of what a Pres and Teddy

925
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,679
have done. Absolutely love this show. I'm looking forward to

926
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,960
it in twenty twenty six as well. But sitting alongside

927
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,920
you here in a hosting capacity, not just pushing the

928
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,719
buttons behind the scenes. Easy professional win. Took the cake

929
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,079
for me?

930
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,599
Speaker 1: Man, all right, biggest personal win? What was your biggest

931
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,360
personal win outside.

932
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,599
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, I mean I got married to the love

933
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:41,000
of my life this year. It's hard to note this

934
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:44,840
was the easiest one, easiest one to take the cake. There,

935
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:50,760
absolutely incredible wedding that we had, so yeah, hitting the jackpot, out,

936
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,000
kicking the coverage, all of those things. Easy biggest personal win.

937
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,320
With a little sidecar, this one is more twenty twenty

938
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,559
sixth than twenty twenty five. We purchased our first home together.

939
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,840
We'll be moving back back east here next week actually,

940
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,559
so I'll be missing a couple of shows because we'll

941
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:09,440
be traveling back east. But but yeah, marry and the

942
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,800
love of your life. Highly recommend marry your best friend, folks.

943
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, This is where it gets a

944
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,320
little dark. I do not have something that I can

945
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,840
pick as my biggest personal win, and that's been the

946
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,280
story of twenty twenty five for me. I did not

947
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,320
do anything great for my own life, and that has

948
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,639
to change in twenty twenty six. This is the most

949
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:35,559
depressing one is I look back on twenty twenty five

950
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,880
and I got so consumed with certain things that I

951
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,679
did not do anything for Andy. And that is a massive,

952
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,719
massive regret and something that I have to address. So

953
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,039
this is the depressing part. I do not have a

954
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:48,840
good personal win.

955
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,599
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, also I have to, you know, think about

956
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,800
how that's correlated, you know, with what we do as

957
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,639
sports betters.

958
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

959
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,639
Speaker 2: It's been a frustrating year for you and our team,

960
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,119
and a lot of that is if your mental is

961
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:05,239
not proper like you like, take a step back sometimes, folks.

962
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,480
If you don't have it in between your ears, you're

963
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,440
gonna be chasing losses. You're not gonna be handicapping properly.

964
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,559
You're going to be second guessing yourself. So yeah, Andy,

965
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,280
I'm going to force you in twenty twenty six to

966
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,880
do some Andy wins. That that's gonna be mine.

967
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: I have to Yeah, I really really do so, all right, Dad,

968
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,360
other professional wins losses, just some little ones.

969
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: Do the Detroit trip with our video team, yes, Holy God.

970
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Like so when we when we made a couple of

971
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,480
you know, transitions, whatever, we made the commitment. We were like,

972
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:41,079
Kelly Stewart was like, We're getting everyone to the Detroit office.

973
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:43,079
We're gonna hang out with the folks who do the

974
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,960
customer service. We're gonna get to hang out with Johnny Detroit.

975
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,079
The whole entire team absconded and made their way down

976
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,679
to Detroit and it was an absolute blast. Dinner in

977
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,639
Greek Town one of my absolute cherished memories. We got

978
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,960
closer as a team, so profession win. Who would have

979
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,280
thought one of the best trips of your life would

980
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,800
be going to Detroit. Yeah, that was an insane started

981
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,880
off an amazing trend upwards for this team with wager

982
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,280
talk and always we'll look back on that trip very fondly.

983
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,599
Hopefully we do it again soon.

984
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,039
Speaker 1: Yes, that was I had that down that Detroit trip

985
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:24,480
was amazing. That was so well done. So other professional

986
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:26,239
wins for me by far the best year for my

987
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,199
production company, so that's a huge, huge relief. We can

988
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,519
see the profitability on the horizon with my production company,

989
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:37,719
so that was good. But here's my biggest professional loss,

990
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,639
and this is just full disclosure. We had one of

991
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:44,400
our worst betting years January February March. We could not miss,

992
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:47,639
we could not miss, and then we just hit a

993
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,639
six month funk and we could not get rid of it.

994
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Finally in late October. We righted the ship October November,

995
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:57,639
December much much better, but we ended up down seventy

996
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,119
units if you use the wager talk units, so flat

997
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,119
betting was a lot better, but we lost a lot

998
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,920
of big plays in that six month run. My job

999
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,639
is to be profitable at the end of the year,

1000
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,599
and I did not do my job. It's been a

1001
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,519
long time since we had a down year and said, oh,

1002
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:15,599
you were due. You know, it's regression that happens, but

1003
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,079
that's just not acceptable. When people pay for your services

1004
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:25,159
and you don't, you don't provide what you consider good expectations.

1005
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,559
It's a massive, massive loss on our part. So that

1006
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:29,840
is something that's got to change. For twenty twenty six,

1007
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,480
by far, my biggest professional loss personal when you had

1008
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,800
a little little personal wins outside of work.

1009
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, outside of what we do here and

1010
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:44,199
the on air capacity. I made a joke, I'm wearing

1011
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,679
my Mustang's lacrosse shirt. This was the first team that

1012
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,639
I started as an assistant coach, nice for coaching lacrosse.

1013
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:52,679
So I moved into my fifth year of coaching. I

1014
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,480
started in twenty twenty one or in twenty twenty and

1015
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,559
coach three different teams. One of the teams I coached

1016
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:04,639
out here in LA was that Palisades lacrosse team who

1017
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,800
they lost their entire school, so was able to help

1018
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,559
some of those kids kind of work through that. But

1019
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:14,079
five years of coaching Andy, A big personal win for

1020
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,760
me was having my first ever job that I got

1021
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,360
paid to coach. I was a defensive coordinator for Redondo Lacrosse.

1022
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,119
And moving forward into twenty twenty six, I'm actually going

1023
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,719
to get to move home. And we had somebody ask

1024
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,679
a you going back to PA. Yes, moving back to

1025
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,159
PA and I'm going to get to be the coach

1026
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,599
for my nephews lacrosse team. So that's that's coming up

1027
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:35,880
here in twenty twenty six is a little look forward.

1028
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,840
But I love coaching, man, It's one of my absolute

1029
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,559
joys in life. And getting five straight years of it

1030
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,400
and having someone respect my opinion enough that they brought

1031
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,679
me on to have an actual title and be able

1032
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,199
to run an entire defense was definitely great.

1033
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,679
Speaker 1: Damn glows when he talks about coaching.

1034
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it.

1035
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,079
Speaker 1: You may or may not know that, but when you

1036
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:01,360
talk about coaching, you just have that Yeah, that's a

1037
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,199
lot about you. So I'm so glad that you have

1038
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,519
that passion in your life. Man. It's really really cool.

1039
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for what it's worth, if it weren't for

1040
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,639
Wager Talk, I wouldn't have that life work balance that

1041
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:12,760
allowed it, you know what I mean. Like I have

1042
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,920
the opportunity to go and coach in the afternoon because

1043
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,760
of what we do with this team with Wager Talk.

1044
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,000
So that's that's it ties in with the professional and personal.

1045
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Uh personal wins and losses. I did get healthier, worked

1046
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,480
hard on my blood pressure, my blood sugar. Both of

1047
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:34,000
those are much much better. A loss. Uh, you guys

1048
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,920
all know we had to say goodbye to our dog,

1049
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:40,360
fifteen year old dog. Yeah, this has affected me more

1050
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,000
than I thought Dan, And now I know why. Outside

1051
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:47,079
of my four years at college, where you know, you're

1052
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,400
just surrounded by a million roommates and everything, this is

1053
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,719
the first time in my life ever, I have not

1054
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,519
had a pet. Since I was born. I've had a

1055
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,000
pet in the house's ter patters.

1056
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Man, it hits different, Yeah, because we lost our cat

1057
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:01,159
this year too, and same thing.

1058
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's hit home and I haven't totally

1059
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,480
gotten over the lonelys. I am somebody that I don't

1060
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:10,800
like being alone, Like if my wife is gone, I

1061
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,639
have to have a TV on. I'm a lunatic. I

1062
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,480
need energy around. So that's been a little bit tough

1063
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,400
on that one. So but honestly, I don't We're not

1064
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,960
going to get a pet. My wife and I have

1065
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,840
places we want to travel, and you just can't do

1066
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,320
that with no So.

1067
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,159
Speaker 2: Everything gets planned around do I have a pet sitter

1068
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,559
or how do I get home?

1069
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with yeah, yeah, all right, let's go to

1070
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,920
twenty twenty six. Let's look ahead, let's uh, let's get

1071
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,440
some get some positivity going here. All right, go back

1072
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,239
real quick, did you have any sports wagering takeaways from

1073
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,440
twenty twenty five.

1074
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean, and this has really been the three years

1075
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,880
that I've lived here in LA and living in California

1076
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:54,119
just completely blew up what I did as a sports

1077
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:57,239
better because it's it's it isn't legal here and I'm

1078
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,480
not going to drive the Vegas you know, every single

1079
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,880
weekend so I can get my action down. So I

1080
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,400
had to kind of adjust how I did things and

1081
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:06,639
had to be playing on things like prize picks like

1082
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,679
underdog sports, which just isn't my niche. So, you know,

1083
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,480
I kind of took a full step back and was

1084
00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,679
just like, it's gonna be pizza money until I can

1085
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,360
actually be in a sport that has regulated or a

1086
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,719
state that has regulated sports betting. So to twenty twenty six,

1087
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,719
that's something as we look forward, you know and turn

1088
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,360
the page that will definitely be upping upping my action

1089
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:32,280
and I think probably my ability to handicap these games

1090
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,679
when I'm actually able to wager on them, you know,

1091
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,400
with my own hard earned dollars with a regulated sports book.

1092
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:40,159
And the other thing andy that I learned that the

1093
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:43,280
sport that you have an edge in may not always

1094
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,679
be there like lacrosse lines in college lacrosse have gotten sharper.

1095
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:51,239
PLL lines have certainly gotten sharper. So that is where

1096
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,400
you have to adjust. Is your sports better, you know

1097
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,159
as being a niche sports better. I mean ten years ago,

1098
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,199
player props weren't even something that was being focused on

1099
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,920
by sports books. You could make an absolute killing an

1100
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:04,920
NFL player props and it's just not the nature. So

1101
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,719
always be an ameeba and be able to adjust what

1102
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,000
you're doing as a sports better.

1103
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, my biggest takeaway I had a couple moments where

1104
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:20,079
I wagered massive chunk of my bank roll on plays

1105
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:24,840
that really really like we're no sweat, no brainers yep.

1106
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:27,679
And that's been my biggest takeaway from my personal bank role.

1107
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,119
I can't give him out as as client plays, but

1108
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:33,719
just last week I had two plays that were both

1109
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,599
minus a thousand. I played him individually and I won ten.

1110
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,159
I got ten percent return on investment. Both of them

1111
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,679
were over within forty five minutes. This was just a

1112
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,519
no sweat we had. We had the cricket big play

1113
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,559
on the ashes that was one of them that has

1114
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:50,760
really opened my eyes. It's risky, but the return on

1115
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,760
investment just cannot be ignored. I've done really well on

1116
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,239
some of those, So that was my biggest takeaway from

1117
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,400
twenty twenty five. All right, twenty twenty six, here we go.

1118
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,760
I'll go first, professional goals. We have to have a

1119
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,639
winning year betting we can't. We can't go through the

1120
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,079
slump that we did for those six months. So that's

1121
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:14,039
by far number one goal here at wager Talk. Skincare Company.

1122
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,880
Really build that one, and I'm kind of putting this together.

1123
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,599
I have to get this production company and skincare Company

1124
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:22,719
close to profitable. The skincare is a startup. We're not

1125
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,239
quite profitable, but we're close, and the production company is

1126
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,920
about a year away from being profitable. But to be honest,

1127
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,159
when you start these companies, yeah, yeah, you have to

1128
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:34,440
go in debt, you have to work really hard. And

1129
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,960
I've been nervous about money for a while with these companies,

1130
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,639
and I need to improve that because I'm pretty sure

1131
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:43,400
that's been a source of some of the health problems

1132
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,679
that I've had. So this is my year to really

1133
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:48,599
get these businesses very close to profitable and hopefully at

1134
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:50,400
the end of the year both of them are profitable.

1135
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:53,599
Hands down, my biggest professional goal outside of Wayger talk.

1136
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:54,320
What about you.

1137
00:53:55,519 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Congrats to our man Shan, of course nice. That's absolutely

1138
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:03,280
love to hear it. Professional goals for me, we got

1139
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,400
to get to a quarter of a million subscribers. We're

1140
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,280
like twenty k away. So folks, if you're joining us,

1141
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,880
you're watching us, hit that like button. Tell your friends

1142
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,920
to subscribe. Hell, I don't even care if you make

1143
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,199
a burner or two and subscribe, But we need to

1144
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,000
get to two hundred and fifty thousand subscribers and early

1145
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,079
on in twenty twenty six. So if you see our content,

1146
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,199
pressing that like button and subscribing would go a long way.

1147
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,480
That is my personal goal as the head of the

1148
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:32,559
live video team. We need two hundred fifty thousand subscribers.

1149
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,079
That's I need it in twenty twenties.

1150
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,119
Speaker 1: It's a great one. It's a really really good one.

1151
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,039
All right. Finishing up personal goals, I just got to

1152
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:46,000
get back to being fun and outgoing. I kind of

1153
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:47,519
lost that I need to be a little bit more

1154
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:50,440
decisive on certain things. I kind of got into the

1155
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,679
wishy washy part of it, and oh, you know, continue

1156
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,519
working on my health. I'm actually going to my doctor

1157
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:59,079
right after this, and I need to work on just

1158
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:01,920
being a better huh husband. You know, I feel like

1159
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,599
sometimes I don't know what it is. I just feel

1160
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:06,880
like I need to work on that and I need

1161
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,159
to be a little bit better. I'm not terrible, but

1162
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,679
I just think there's some ways that I can improve that.

1163
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,079
So it's going to be a focus for twenty twenty six.

1164
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:16,679
Those are my personal goals. What about you?

1165
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

1166
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I can't wait to get back East and

1167
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,360
get back into barbecuing. Absolutely. One of my passions is

1168
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,760
doing getting back into the smoker, you know, cooking a

1169
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,079
little bit more so since I would be a homebody,

1170
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,679
We'll be definitely getting into barbecuing. So stay tuned on

1171
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,400
at Newby Talks because you know the food picks and

1172
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,400
VIDs are coming and crossover dribbled. Don't let the door

1173
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,400
hit your ass on the way out, baby.

1174
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: I think, does he mean unsubscribe and then subscribe back again?

1175
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: He might. He might, so actually let the door hit

1176
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,960
you and then send you back in.

1177
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:54,039
Speaker 1: And then send you back in.

1178
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: I apologize.

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Speaker 1: A sports wagering goals anything.

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Speaker 5: For you, Dan?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mine is just I kind of alluded to it.

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I got to get back to the grindstone.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Being in a sports the state for three years that

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didn't have regulated sports betting made a major hit on

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my ability to you know, not just handicap games when

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you don't have as much skin in the game, when

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you're using different outs. You know, it just completely changed

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my attack at handling my bankroll. So getting back to

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doing what I do best, baby and having skin in

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the game starting next week already is something that I'm

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super pumped for. In twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: My biggest sports wagering goal is being profitable in golf.

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I have my first losing year in golf since I

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joined wager Talk, and that was that was just a

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story of twenty twenty five. All of our all of

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our like sports that we could just count on. We

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coult PFL. We were down a little bit, Golf, we're down.

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These are sports that we can just across. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah absolutely so all right whosah, this was good, Dan,

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this was really really good.

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Speaker 2: And it's gonna go for the beefs, the folks who

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were like, what the hell where were all the free picks?

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We gave out a total of eleven free plays on

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this show. So this episode is time stamp. You got

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the free picks and in about two minutes from now, folks,

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don't worry because you got the Blitz coming up. We're

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gonna be breaking down both of the college football playoff games,

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so don't miss that for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna do it for us. Thank you

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guys for joining us. If you want to put it

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out in the uh you want to put it out

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in the world, put in the comments section. What are

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you some of your twenty twenty six goals? We'd love

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to support you with times when you put it out there,

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you hold yourself a little bit more, OK, capit bowl,

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So thank you very much, and uh Dan, I'm so

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excited for your twenty twenty six moving your food roots.

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Let's do it man. We're gonna be back for football

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Friday tomorrow. Good looking all your bets tonight