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Speaker 2: Looks like we have a major upset here in the Olympics.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who Cole Hawker is. I gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I've never heard the name, but Cole
Speaker 2: Hawker is apparently the most talked about athlete maybe in
Speaker 2: the world right now, because he just pulled off a
Speaker 2: massive upset to win the Olympic goal in the fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred meter in Paris. And now two Americans are on
Speaker 2: the podium because Cole Hawker won gold, and I'm not
Speaker 2: sure of the name of the young man who won bronze,
Speaker 2: but this is the first time since nineteen twelve that
Speaker 2: two Americans have of have gotten two of the three
Speaker 2: medals here. So middle distance running mark that down as
Speaker 2: one of the new strings here of the United States
Speaker 2: in the in the Olympics. I haven't seen an updated,
Speaker 2: you know, medal count in the Olympics since earlier this morning,
Speaker 2: but I do know that as of yeah, twenty one
Speaker 2: gold medals. That was as of this morning. I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's probably changed since then because I just mentioned a
Speaker 2: gold medal that the United States just won, but they
Speaker 2: were tied with China at the end of yesterday for
Speaker 2: the lead on overall medals or as I'm sorry is
Speaker 2: for gold. As for the overall medal count, you know,
Speaker 2: they're running away with it and that's that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's what you'd expect. And apparently there's another record that's
Speaker 2: going to be snapped. And I don't know if they
Speaker 2: consider that a record, but for the United States again,
Speaker 2: to know that it's been since nineteen twelve, I mean,
Speaker 2: that just sounds insane. But it's been since nineteen twelve
Speaker 2: that the United States had two of those three medals
Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundred. But today this record as not
Speaker 2: as not something going as far back as nineteen twelve,
Speaker 2: but a thirty six year record could could be broken
Speaker 2: because there I think the record for the two hundred
Speaker 2: meter is twenty one point three four and the belief
Speaker 2: is that Julian Alfred and Gabby Thomas are potentially gonna
Speaker 2: maybe shatter that today. So that record has been in
Speaker 2: place since the nineteen eighty eight Olympics. So records being broken,
Speaker 2: which you know, records are meant to be broken, aren't
Speaker 2: they at least that's that's what I think. And I
Speaker 2: haven't watched nearly as much of the Olympics as I
Speaker 2: told myself I was going to do whenever we got closer.
Speaker 2: But in the last couple of days now that I've
Speaker 2: been back from vacation, I've at least been keeping up
Speaker 2: with other things when it comes to the Olympics. And
Speaker 2: there's a video that always surfaces sometimes when we're you know,
Speaker 2: getting close to the Olympics, or when the Olympics are
Speaker 2: going on, or just randomly. And I will never not
Speaker 2: cry when I see this video. That's probably not something
Speaker 2: I should admit, but it's just the truth. There's a
Speaker 2: British runner, Derek Redman, who tore his hamstring in the
Speaker 2: four hundred meter semifinal back in nineteen ninety two, and
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just in agony out there after tearing
Speaker 2: his hamstring in the race, and he can barely move,
Speaker 2: but he's still trying. He's limping, and then his father
Speaker 2: somehow manages to make his way onto the track and
Speaker 2: gives him, you know, some guided assistance and helps him
Speaker 2: complete a full lap of the track as the crowd
Speaker 2: you know, goes crazy standing ovation, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: such the visual of that, it's insane. And my favorite
Speaker 2: part is that you see people who I guess work
Speaker 2: for the grounds crew. They work for the Olympic. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're there to keep people from, you know, running out there,
Speaker 2: and two or three different people throughout the entire thing
Speaker 2: try to stop this man from helping his son limp
Speaker 2: towards the end of the finish line and he's just
Speaker 2: looking at him like, you're not I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna help him, And it's just so cool, so
Speaker 2: cool to see one of the coolest things I've ever
Speaker 2: seen and gets me every single time. And we don't
Speaker 2: have that same thing happening right now. But I did
Speaker 2: just see a video of Cole Hawker's father who was witnessing. Again.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy, this wasn't expected at all, but
Speaker 2: he ends up winning it. And there's somebody showing his
Speaker 2: dad in the crowd as he's seeing his son out
Speaker 2: there representing the United States pull off what is now
Speaker 2: being described as one of the biggest upsets for the
Speaker 2: United States in the in the current Olympic Games that
Speaker 2: are going on right now, and his dad is just
Speaker 2: in disbelief, and he keeps saying, what the F But
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't say F. He says the actual
Speaker 2: F word, which is like, that's that's such a raw
Speaker 2: and real like emotion, like hopefully his son doesn't see
Speaker 2: it and think like, is he's surprised? Did he not
Speaker 2: think that I could? You know that I could pull
Speaker 2: it off? But here is what the here's what the
Speaker 2: victory sounded like for a Cole Hawker, who definitely became
Speaker 2: a lot more famous today than he was an hour ago.
Speaker 3: Post on the conversation sets the favorites. That's good for
Speaker 3: the outside post.
Speaker 2: I mean to see that. I mean that's like, that's
Speaker 2: that's that's digging as deep as you can because it
Speaker 2: looked as if the guy who was the favorite was
Speaker 2: going to do what everybody thought in that late push unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And I'm just now realizing this again. Everybody's talking about
Speaker 2: Cole Hawker because he is the big up he got
Speaker 2: the big upset, he's the winner. But the young man
Speaker 2: who finished with the bronze medal is from right here
Speaker 2: in Louisville. He went to Manuel High School and then
Speaker 2: went to Notre Dame. And I've yeared now Goosey. I'm
Speaker 2: sure I'm saying that incorrectly, but I've seen a lot
Speaker 2: of coverage here locally about because he's one of the
Speaker 2: few Louivillions that is in fact in the Olympics. But
Speaker 2: shout out to him. He's going to be a part
Speaker 2: of history as well, because again, these two Americans finishing,
Speaker 2: you know, with the gold and the bronze. That has
Speaker 2: not happened for the United States again since nineteen twelve.
Speaker 2: That's insane, insane stuff. All right, it's Coffee and Company.
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Speaker 2: This isn't really any This has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: you know, the actual competition, the medal count and that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But this is, uh, this is a
Speaker 2: bad look for this, for this football coach. Let me
Speaker 2: pull up the actual make sure I get the name
Speaker 2: correct here, because I would assume that if you you
Speaker 2: have a family member, brother, sister, son, daughter, cousin, even
Speaker 2: like somebody that you know you are close with, that
Speaker 2: is competing in the Olympics, like it would be a
Speaker 2: known thing that you're gonna watch it, Like you're gonna
Speaker 2: maybe take off work, right, I mean, you're gonna do
Speaker 2: whatever you gotta do to watch it. Maybe you can't
Speaker 2: be there, but you're gonna watch it. It's a big deal. Well,
Speaker 2: Navy's head coach Brian Newberry is getting a lot of
Speaker 2: heat because apparently he's not letting one of his players
Speaker 2: take a brief break from practice to watch his sister
Speaker 2: potentially win Olympic gold. Like I mean, can't we like,
Speaker 2: can't we agree? That's that's that's a jerk move, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I know, you got to be a badass football robot
Speaker 2: to where nothing in the world matters because it's just
Speaker 2: about it's just about being out there on the field
Speaker 2: getting better and working hard for the upcoming season all
Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff. But like, you know, one
Speaker 2: of his players has a sister who did, in fact
Speaker 2: eventually win gold, and you know he couldn't He wasn't
Speaker 2: even watching it on TV. I mean, and I think
Speaker 2: they thought they did something cool here and maybe we'll
Speaker 2: find out that, like he didn't want to watch it,
Speaker 2: but there's no way that this could comes out. I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, they told me I could watch it
Speaker 2: on TV, but I didn't want to. Like, I think
Speaker 2: the Navy football Twitter account thought they did something cute
Speaker 2: here and it says, the moment you find out your
Speaker 2: sister won a gold medal of Olympics, congratulations to theo
Speaker 2: la fond but I guess this.
Speaker 1: Is the great.
Speaker 3: Hey, your sister.
Speaker 2: Just want to go, so like they promoted that like
Speaker 2: hell yeah, our god, but it turned into be the
Speaker 2: ultimate backfire because everybody is dragging this program and this
Speaker 2: coach for not like having like to see how rowdy.
Speaker 2: His teammates are for him, because of course, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he's so happy. I'm proud of his sister. I mean,
Speaker 2: have one of the countless people on your staff that
Speaker 2: are just out there at practice doing whatever you yell
Speaker 2: at him to do, have them monitor it, and when
Speaker 2: you get close, let the head coach know, gather the
Speaker 2: entire team around to support this guy as he watches
Speaker 2: his sister. Now you know, maybe she wasn't a favorite,
Speaker 2: and like it would have been sad and he didn't
Speaker 2: want to he'd be distracted. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's me and my sister is about tonticipate in the
Speaker 2: Olympics and potentially win a gold medal. I mean, it'd
Speaker 2: be all I was thinking about. Anyway, I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to practice.
Speaker 4: I just don't get why, if you're him, why you
Speaker 4: would rather hear it from the coaches.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that's my thing is like he probably
Speaker 2: didn't Therefore they probably just was like, nope, you're not
Speaker 2: getting an excused break from practice because it's not like
Speaker 2: he had to, like he had to take the whole
Speaker 2: day off. But I feel like, if if he wanted
Speaker 2: to go to the Olympics and support his sister. That'd
Speaker 2: be a little bit different because you can't like miss
Speaker 2: weeks of camp as the season is quickly approaching. But like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's the Olympics. It's a little
Speaker 2: bit different. So I'm glad to see that Navy football's
Speaker 2: getting getting.
Speaker 4: I mean they would last year. I mean how I
Speaker 4: mean not to not to trash the Navy football program.
Speaker 4: Let's do it, hell with it, We'll trash him. I mean,
Speaker 4: what are they what are they good for other than
Speaker 4: the Army Navy game in terms of I'm talking athletically,
Speaker 4: not the Navy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good point. I don't
Speaker 2: know much about any of their other sports as far
Speaker 2: as their success, but yeah, shout out to that young
Speaker 2: lady who won a gold medal, and you know her
Speaker 2: brother didn't get to see it live, but hey, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's still proud of her. All right. Something else
Speaker 2: to mention when it comes to the Olympics. I don't
Speaker 2: know how many of you care about this, but we
Speaker 2: now have a new all time leader when it comes
Speaker 2: to total point scored for United States basketball players in
Speaker 2: Olympic action, and that is Kevin Durant, he passed. It
Speaker 2: looks like, let's see, he passed Lisa Leslie for the
Speaker 2: most points ever from a men's and women's player for
Speaker 2: Team USA. And I will admit I did not realize
Speaker 2: how successful Kevin Durant has been in the Olympics. I
Speaker 2: know he's always he's been a part of these teams
Speaker 2: for the United States for many Olympics now, and he's
Speaker 2: one of the best players ever of all time, so
Speaker 2: I guess it shouldn't really shock me. But then again,
Speaker 2: like I just the only guy that I feel like
Speaker 2: I've heard about that just seems to always turn it
Speaker 2: on in Olympic play and be really really good was
Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony. Like I feel like his career was like
Speaker 2: on the downtick twice seemingly and then Olympic action going on, Boom,
Speaker 2: He's out here, you know, Olympic mellow, and it never
Speaker 2: really translated because he didn't have a strong finish to
Speaker 2: his career. But nonetheless, Kevin Duran is now your easier leader.
Speaker 2: And there was a lot of talk about Team USA
Speaker 2: as far as their close game against South Sudan and
Speaker 2: the you know, the the games, the warm up games, essentially,
Speaker 2: and at times they looked like maybe they should be
Speaker 2: blowing out some of these other teams a little more
Speaker 2: than what they were, but they've kind of they've quietly
Speaker 2: been really really impressive. In fact, I guess they're playing
Speaker 2: right now or they just wrapped up. But as I think,
Speaker 2: as of this morning, they were three three wins away
Speaker 2: from the gold which is certainly the expectation. And you know,
Speaker 2: just looking at the personnel on this team, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt that they are. They are. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't think of an Olympic team we've had in
Speaker 2: the last two three Olympics that was as loaded as
Speaker 2: this one. I still think when it comes to like talent,
Speaker 2: as far as guys that are not playing that you
Speaker 2: know are up there, as far as the best that
Speaker 2: you know, the United States has to offer as basketball players,
Speaker 2: as far as skill, talent, athleticism, I think John Morant,
Speaker 2: when healthy, is worthy of that. Obviously, he's had a
Speaker 2: rough couple of years with injuries and of course just
Speaker 2: him being quite frankly a domas about some stuff. But
Speaker 2: I mean he is, He's one of the best players
Speaker 2: on planet Earth as far as just what he's able
Speaker 2: to do. And then I'm biased with this one, but
Speaker 2: I still think Zion Williamson is a guy that went healthy,
Speaker 2: which of course that's not often. He's I mean, he's
Speaker 2: just he's special. And then Kawhi was a part of
Speaker 2: the team, and then they didn't want Hi to be
Speaker 2: a part of the team, which was kind of odd.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this this US men's basketball teams has been sensational,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, which is again what we expect.
Speaker 2: All right, So we've got some news coming out of
Speaker 2: the SEC is It sounds like they are going to
Speaker 2: move forward and add a mandatory injury report by the
Speaker 2: start of this upcoming season. The Big Ten has done that,
Speaker 2: I believe, is it last year? Maybe before? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: this is apparently. I mean again, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody's going to going to make you do this,
Speaker 2: but they're looking into having all and I guess it
Speaker 2: sounds like they're actually gonna do it. But they're gonna
Speaker 2: have mandatory injury reports before games are played. So CBS
Speaker 2: Sports Is Alex Scarborough and John Talty are the ones
Speaker 2: who first put this out there. But here this is
Speaker 2: from their article. Quote a mandatory injury report hasn't been
Speaker 2: officially approved, but multiple sources indicate the details are close
Speaker 2: to being finalized and are expected to be in place
Speaker 2: at the start of the twenty twenty four season. A
Speaker 2: decision could be made as early as next week, when
Speaker 2: league athletic directors are scheduled to meet. The Big Ten
Speaker 2: became the first Power five conference to institute a game
Speaker 2: day availability report during the twenty twenty three season, a
Speaker 2: move designed to protect the integrity of the game with
Speaker 2: respect to gambling. The league's weekly report had two categories
Speaker 2: for injured players, questionable or out. Some a sc scols
Speaker 2: like LSU and Florida released weekly injury reports last season,
Speaker 2: but the majority opted against the practice. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's always going to be a level of gamesmanship even
Speaker 2: with this in place. But I do think if you're
Speaker 2: gonna have gambling be such a huge component to the
Speaker 2: sports entertainment world, I think this is a no brainer.
Speaker 2: I mean, makes total sense. Again, it probably won't be,
Speaker 2: you know, one thousand percent honest. Although wasn't there some
Speaker 2: controversy last year with the Big Tens where somebody was
Speaker 2: accused of not being truthful on it was that a
Speaker 2: horrball thing? Maybe wouldn't be shocker.
Speaker 4: I don't know for sure, but my mind immediately went
Speaker 4: to Michigan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I feel like there was something because it
Speaker 2: had never happened before. There was never you know, but
Speaker 2: the league did have an actual rule in place and
Speaker 2: apparently they But again, you can you can wiggle around it,
Speaker 2: right like if you didn't list a guy is out
Speaker 2: and they didn't play well, he stubbed his toe walking
Speaker 2: out of locker room. Doctor said he can't go like
Speaker 2: you could. You could. You could probably make up a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff to make it to where you didn't
Speaker 2: technically maybe break a rule. But you know, I think
Speaker 2: this makes this makes sense. I mean, Kirby Smart. This
Speaker 2: is a quote when he was asked about this at
Speaker 2: the SEC Media Days last month. He says, if it
Speaker 2: helps with gambling, that I'm all for it. If it's
Speaker 2: geared to getting knowledge out there that people are trying
Speaker 2: to get from our student athletes and it protects them,
Speaker 2: I'm certainly for that. So this is Sam Pittman, another
Speaker 2: another SEC coach. Personally, it wouldn't be a bother to me.
Speaker 2: If they want to know exactly what our injury report was,
Speaker 2: you're going to find out before the game. Anyway, if
Speaker 2: you're at the game, you're going to see who's suited
Speaker 2: out and who's not, who's limping and who isn't. But
Speaker 2: I understand that if it would help our players not
Speaker 2: get needled for information, I'd be all for it. So
Speaker 2: that's that is another component as far as you know,
Speaker 2: players being reached out to by I mean again, that's
Speaker 2: like some of the injury injuries in college sports have
Speaker 2: probably surfaced from some random student who saw a player
Speaker 2: with a boot on his foot or something, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So you know, I I think it
Speaker 2: makes total sense to be transparent with this and I've
Speaker 2: never really Again, there's gamesmanship within football and there's always
Speaker 2: going to be that. Just nobody wants to give anybody
Speaker 2: any chance to get an edge and see, you know,
Speaker 2: to get it. I mean, hick, there's still coaches that
Speaker 2: don't let people film their spring games or their spring
Speaker 2: I mean he Jeff Brown doesn't let anybody take any
Speaker 2: picture or video when you come to the open practices
Speaker 2: that they have. So that's just how coaches are wired.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to gambling, I mean, as someone
Speaker 2: who gambles myself, all know going in that these may
Speaker 2: not be, you know, one thousand percent honest, but I
Speaker 2: will also appreciate there's at least some level of like
Speaker 2: a reference point that you can see who's seemingly banged
Speaker 2: Because if a guy's questionable but you think he's gonna play,
Speaker 2: you may think, okay, well, if he's been banged up,
Speaker 2: he may not be one hundred percent. That could that
Speaker 2: could make an impact on what you want to do
Speaker 2: when it comes to when it comes to wagering. So
Speaker 2: if you guys missed this news earlier, I know our
Speaker 2: five o'clock crowd probably wasn't with us at three o'clock,
Speaker 2: But if you were, then you heard this this big
Speaker 2: announcement from Pitt Bull, the entertainer, the mogul. He has
Speaker 2: partnered with FIU in Miami to seemingly pull off the
Speaker 2: first ever naming right sponsorship for a college football program
Speaker 2: that is for an individual, not a brand or a corporation.
Speaker 2: So he has purchased the naming rights to Florida International's
Speaker 2: football stadium and a five year, six million dollar deal
Speaker 2: and it will now be known as pit Bull Stadium.
Speaker 2: And as part of this agreement, pit Bull will pay
Speaker 2: FIU one point two million annually. He's also going to
Speaker 2: be named the official Entrepreneur of FIU Athletics, and he
Speaker 2: will have the opportunity to use the stadium for up
Speaker 2: to ten days each year without having to pay any rent.
Speaker 2: He also can promote his new vodka brand at the
Speaker 2: games and sell it. He's going to create an FIU anthem,
Speaker 2: and he also gets two suites for up to forty
Speaker 2: people at all football games. So you know, you're seeing
Speaker 2: you're going to see sponsorships much more than you ever
Speaker 2: have in college athletics, because I'm not really sure you
Speaker 2: ever have, right, Like, we haven't seen anybody have a
Speaker 2: sponsor on their jersey yet, but that's coming. I mean
Speaker 2: that'll be because they're going to need money. And there's
Speaker 2: some schools that will have the ability to choose whatever
Speaker 2: they want to monetize with a sponsor and a logo,
Speaker 2: and they'll be able to get insane money for because
Speaker 2: that's how important that brand is to people. Right Like
Speaker 2: Ohio State, their athletic director mentioned that they're going to
Speaker 2: look into a stadium naming rights deal. If you know,
Speaker 2: in fact, the quote was, we have to put everything
Speaker 2: on the table. Naming rights of the stadium, the Jersey
Speaker 2: patches of conversation that's from the ohouse that at the
Speaker 2: Ohio State Athletic Director when it comes to evaluating all
Speaker 2: new revenue opportunities, and Ohio State don't even really need it,
Speaker 2: right because I think they'd have the money to foot
Speaker 2: the bill for all this much more than most. But hey,
Speaker 2: if you have unlimited money, you can seemingly go get
Speaker 2: any player you want. But I do wonder, and this
Speaker 2: is something for way down the line. We won't know
Speaker 2: for many years to come. I would say, if you
Speaker 2: have all this money, like we talked about this a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, Dan Lanning at Oregon. The belief is
Speaker 2: that Dan Lanning at Oregon literally has unlimited money from
Speaker 2: Phil Knight of Nike to go get any player he wants.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's a good thing to have,
Speaker 2: no doubt, you don't have to worry about inil resources.
Speaker 2: Right Mark Stoops is still crying himself to sleep every
Speaker 2: night because he's got to do all this on his own.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Lord Wryan do this. He's just crying
Speaker 2: about it. Whereas Dan Lanning doesn't have to cry because
Speaker 2: he's got the bag from Phil Knight, which is good
Speaker 2: to have. You would always rather have that as a coach,
Speaker 2: But you also have pressure because you can't use the
Speaker 2: excuse that other coaches can, like Dan Lanning, can't go
Speaker 2: to a coaches show like Mark Stoops and say pony up,
Speaker 2: because if you're an Oregon fan and he says that
Speaker 2: I don't need a pony up, Phil might is worth
Speaker 2: a gazillion dollars and he's willing to pay whatever, so
Speaker 2: we don't have to. So if you are one of
Speaker 2: these schools like Ohio State and it becomes clear that
Speaker 2: like you're never not getting players because of lack of money,
Speaker 2: that adds more pressure I think too, the coach and
Speaker 2: everybody involved to win and get results with that money
Speaker 2: that you're using. Because like some play, we'll never know
Speaker 2: if it's really an excuse or not. But like when
Speaker 2: you're Stoops and you're Kentucky, it's never anything your fans
Speaker 2: want to hear. But like you can claim, well, if
Speaker 2: you don't like it, pony up, we need your money.
Speaker 2: And yet you know it's not the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: It's a bad look. But you know what, like maybe
Speaker 2: that is the reason you can't win because you don't
Speaker 2: have the money. Well, if it's clear that you do
Speaker 2: have the money and you don't win, like that sucks
Speaker 2: for everybody involved. I do feel like there's it you work,
Speaker 2: like when your team stinks and you are underperforming, like
Speaker 2: that sucks for everybody involved, fans included. But if I'm
Speaker 2: a fan, I think it'd be even worse to know that,
Speaker 2: like my team actually had all the resources, went out
Speaker 2: and bought a damn good team and we still stump.
Speaker 2: That'd be worse than like knowing, well, hey, what are
Speaker 2: you gonna do? These are the guys we had to
Speaker 2: take because we're such and such school and not Bama
Speaker 2: or Ohio State or Oregon. All right, quick break will
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Speaker 2: had somebody ask earlier on the text line, who I
Speaker 2: think Pat Kelsey's first freshman commit is going to be. Well,
Speaker 2: he already has one. That was Kahani Rus who was
Speaker 2: impressive in their two games in the Bahamas. And you
Speaker 2: can tell, you know, that's a guy who is young
Speaker 2: compared to the rest of this roster. He's an eighteen
Speaker 2: year old kid, whereas you got some fifth six year
Speaker 2: seniors on this team. For Pat Kelsey, but you could
Speaker 2: also see why he was viewed as a top thirty
Speaker 2: player nationally. He's gonna be pretty good and wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked if he has, you know, a meaningful role this year.
Speaker 2: Probably not a guy that's going to lead you in
Speaker 2: minutes or anything like that. But you know, I was
Speaker 2: really impressed with what I saw. But again, it's crowded.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's a lot of guy I mean,
Speaker 2: that's something already new on paper when looking at this
Speaker 2: roster once it was completed and then seeing this team
Speaker 2: in action, even though it was against lower level competition, Like,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be guys that like one day they may
Speaker 2: have the bulk of the minutes and put up eighteen
Speaker 2: and then this a guy that's set their exact same position.
Speaker 2: It may be their night the next night. And it's
Speaker 2: just that's a good that's a I wouldn't say it's
Speaker 2: a good problem to have because it's not a problem.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing. It's it's a I mean, you
Speaker 2: have options, you have depth. You can you know, have
Speaker 2: a guy go out with foul trouble and go to
Speaker 2: the bench and you know, you not dropping off really
Speaker 2: at all. You might get better just depending on who's
Speaker 2: playing better at that time. But to your question, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you actually brought that up because high school football,
Speaker 2: high school basketball recruiting hasn't really been a big talking
Speaker 2: point around here for quite some time because, you know,
Speaker 2: the team's been so bad and towards the end of
Speaker 2: the MAC era they were still dealing with the cloud
Speaker 2: that did hurt them in recruiting. And then when Kenny
Speaker 2: Payne came in, you know, he did actually recruit a
Speaker 2: pretty good class, but there was not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of I mean, that was a class that honestly, on paper,
Speaker 2: and it's crazy to say this out loud, but it's
Speaker 2: the truth. That class was, depending on where you look,
Speaker 2: one of the best classes in school history when it
Speaker 2: comes to rankings when these guys arrive. Now again, Trent
Speaker 2: Flowers never played its second here and he left, but
Speaker 2: you know he was counted in the class whenever it
Speaker 2: was all said and done. Caleb Glenn, I mean, that
Speaker 2: was a guy who was a top fifty player. Dennis
Speaker 2: Evans was a five star by rivals. Tyler Johnson was
Speaker 2: a high four star. Curtis Williams Junior was a top
Speaker 2: thirty forty player I think in the country. So you know,
Speaker 2: you had a good class. But because of what we
Speaker 2: already knew, even if you didn't want to admit it,
Speaker 2: you deep down knew that this was gonna end poorly
Speaker 2: with Kenny Pani as the coach. It just led to
Speaker 2: you not really being as juiced about a recruiting class
Speaker 2: when you again deep down knew the team was probably
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty lousy, and they were. So it's been
Speaker 2: a while and the portal now being a very beneficial
Speaker 2: tool for coaches to use to not have to rely
Speaker 2: on freshmen as much right away, Like there's just not
Speaker 2: gonna be as many spots being taken. But by all accounts.
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey and his staff are still going to I mean,
Speaker 2: they're gonna build this program, not with transfers every year.
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see And again I always talk
Speaker 2: about the formula. I think if you are really for
Speaker 2: football and basketball, right, I a lot of different There's
Speaker 2: way more numbers right than in football than basketball, way
Speaker 2: more players. But if you can keep the majority of
Speaker 2: the guys you want to keep, and I hate to
Speaker 2: say this, but kind of weed out guys that it's
Speaker 2: that it looks as if you know they probably will
Speaker 2: they've probably hit their ceiling it where they are with you,
Speaker 2: and they are probably going to look to leave for
Speaker 2: a bigger role elsewhere, maybe drop down a level or something,
Speaker 2: playing for a mid major. That opens up spots for
Speaker 2: you to go get good players in the portal that
Speaker 2: are better than the guys that are choosing to leave.
Speaker 2: And you're always gonna lose maybe one or two that
Speaker 2: you don't want to lose, but that's just that's the
Speaker 2: new world. And you hope that when that person leaves,
Speaker 2: you go get a player that's better in the portal.
Speaker 2: And you also bring in freshmen, not as many as
Speaker 2: maybe you did pre portal, and maybe there's one of
Speaker 2: them that has the talents Kahani Roost that's a top
Speaker 2: thirty player. Those guys are more often gonna be ready
Speaker 2: to give you something as a first year player than
Speaker 2: a kid who you know isn't in the top one
Speaker 2: fifty two hundred. So that's the formula, right, retain as
Speaker 2: much as you can realize, you're gonna have some spots open,
Speaker 2: most likely because guys are gonna look to leave because
Speaker 2: they're gonna want more money or they're gonna want more
Speaker 2: playing time, and you're gonna know, hey, it's best for
Speaker 2: both of us to just mutually split here. And then
Speaker 2: of course, you know you always you're gonna go out
Speaker 2: in the portal, and that's really just gonna depend on
Speaker 2: all right, do we really need to go get some
Speaker 2: some role players, guys who can fill this void that
Speaker 2: we have and guys that can give us this or
Speaker 2: that or is it okay, Look, we got a pretty
Speaker 2: good core. Man, if we go out here and get
Speaker 2: this guard who's one of the five best guards in
Speaker 2: the portal, that really can put us over the humps.
Speaker 2: So it will it will vary, but again, you're always
Speaker 2: gonna have true freshmen coming in this year. They only
Speaker 2: had one because of obvious circumstances. But they're recruiting a
Speaker 2: lot of kids in the twenty twenty five class that
Speaker 2: they appear to be in good shape with. You're gonna
Speaker 2: get some official visits from these players, so you know,
Speaker 2: to answer your question, Pat Kelsey's already landed his first
Speaker 2: high school signee with with Ruths And now you know,
Speaker 2: we'll see who ends up. Like these commitments are gonna
Speaker 2: be coming before too long, right, you know, they'll make
Speaker 2: their visits. Usually these guys do official visits for football games.
Speaker 2: They'll hear whatever NIL packages are out there, and they'll
Speaker 2: they'll base their decision off of that. So I won't
Speaker 2: pretend to be a recruiting insider that has all the
Speaker 2: intel as far as where Louisville stands with all these
Speaker 2: players in the twenty twenty five class. But given the
Speaker 2: guys they're in on and how many of them have
Speaker 2: scheduled visits and you know, trim their list with Louisville included,
Speaker 2: I mean they have to. They have to have some
Speaker 2: pretty bad luck go their way to not land a
Speaker 2: few of those guys. And if it's and if it's
Speaker 2: the caliber players that I'm seeing out there that are
Speaker 2: interested in Louisville and they're going to visit, You're probably
Speaker 2: gonna have a pretty damn good class. Which that was
Speaker 2: the question, right can Pat Kelsey? You know, he's not
Speaker 2: recruited at the highest level as a head coach when
Speaker 2: he's at Charleston and he's at Winthrop. But I remember
Speaker 2: two of the guys who cover recruiting. One of them
Speaker 2: is Rob Cassidy from Rivals, who joins us on the
Speaker 2: show from time to time. When you got down to
Speaker 2: the mid major caliber coaches, even Dusty May along with
Speaker 2: Josh Shirtz and uh and and Pat Kelsey, you know,
Speaker 2: he said, without question, the coach whould have the best
Speaker 2: ability to really basically utilize what he brings to the
Speaker 2: table with his energy, enthusiasm, his his selling ability. We
Speaker 2: learned about that in his press conference when he was introduced.
Speaker 2: So take all of that that he brings to the table,
Speaker 2: and now you throw in him selling Louisville, the brand,
Speaker 2: the anile resources, the tradition, the NBA arena, the huge
Speaker 2: fan base, all that kind of stuff, and it's got
Speaker 2: a chance to be super successful. So you know, he
Speaker 2: hasn't landed, you know, any of these guys just yet,
Speaker 2: but I'm I'm confident that I'm confident that he will.
Speaker 2: And a man, it has been a while since we
Speaker 2: were tracking an incoming freshman to see if they would
Speaker 2: they would pick Louisville up. I mean, it happened briefly
Speaker 2: with Jaden Quaints if you remember a few months ago.
Speaker 2: But you know, he ended up going to UH to
Speaker 2: Arizona State, and you got to wonder if Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: let's and maybe Kelsey's I don't. I don't even want
Speaker 2: to use him as an example because I don't want
Speaker 2: to act like I'm speaking for him, because I'm not.
Speaker 2: I have no clue. But maybe coaches try that way
Speaker 2: to where they're going to always continue to recruit high
Speaker 2: school kids. But maybe they went from trying to bring
Speaker 2: in three to four to two to three. But then
Speaker 2: there's gonna be coaches who realized, look, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't want to develop a freshman he might leave in
Speaker 2: a year or two. Like I'm just gonna only bring
Speaker 2: in players from the portal, and that's far from the
Speaker 2: conventional way to do it, especially considering that the portal
Speaker 2: is a brand new thing and the grand you know,
Speaker 2: in the in the history of college basketball. But like,
Speaker 2: who's to say that would be the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 2: Like every kid that you have on your team started
Speaker 2: elsewhere and some of them are here for a couple
Speaker 2: you know. Again, if you if you end up, if
Speaker 2: you did it, you know, Pat Kelse is gonna lose
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys to graduation, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess technically they could still use a fifth year
Speaker 2: maybe or is that out is the COVID year over.
Speaker 4: This is the final year of the COVID senior so yeah,
Speaker 4: they'll be gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, So but what if if you are a fourth
Speaker 2: year guy this year, can you use a fifth next year?
Speaker 4: I guess it wouldn't be for COVID, but if you
Speaker 4: had like another reason medically or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because like Chucky Hepburn is a true
Speaker 2: four year senior guy. So his first year of college
Speaker 2: basketball was the year they played they had the tournament, Yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty one, Actually, I guess this would be
Speaker 2: you know, he would be the year after that. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's never been more difficult to truly
Speaker 2: know when eligibility runs out for these college athletes. But
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of it's crazy to say it,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be shocked if in ten years, you know,
Speaker 2: you have the elite freshmen out there that are still
Speaker 2: being recruited by the big brands in the sport. But
Speaker 2: then all the other coaches are like, look, my best
Speaker 2: chance to win is to go get players from the
Speaker 2: portal and not have a guy play for me for
Speaker 2: two three years, and by the time he becomes a
Speaker 2: good college player, then he bolts because you know, he's
Speaker 2: developed into a pretty good player. But now you can
Speaker 2: go play in the SEC or the ACC or the
Speaker 2: Big ten or something like that. The future is it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have no clue what it'll look like
Speaker 2: really with anything and college athletics that are being honest.
Speaker 2: The amount of change just in the last four or
Speaker 2: five years and the amount of change that's coming in
Speaker 2: the next two years is crazy when you consider where
Speaker 2: we were, you know, ten years ago. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 2: and the games that are there the other day when
Speaker 2: we were talking. I mean, would you judge me if
Speaker 2: I told you that I'm already like building parlays for
Speaker 2: Week zero.
Speaker 4: What's amazing is that Week zero takes advantage of people
Speaker 4: just being so horned up for football that the matches
Speaker 4: don't even have to be good for, you know, people.
Speaker 2: To tell yeah, I'm bricked up for some football, dude,
Speaker 2: You have no clue.
Speaker 4: The marquee game in Week zero is Florida State versus
Speaker 4: Georgia Tech, the the now annual game over in Ireland
Speaker 4: and that is that'll be at noon on Saturday the twenty.
Speaker 2: Five, and it'll probably be a dud game. But you know,
Speaker 2: here I am because I'm so excited. I'm trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, convince myself. Hey, you know what Florida State man,
Speaker 2: they life without Jordan Travis will see. You know dj Uklali.
Speaker 2: Last time I checked, he wasn't very good at Clemson.
Speaker 2: You know. Georgia Tech they actually ended up having a
Speaker 2: you know, a pretty good season last year. Uh and
Speaker 2: I think it was was this was it his first
Speaker 2: year there, Brient Key? Yeah, I mean Brent Key is known.
Speaker 2: This was just this is this will be his third year.
Speaker 2: So he goes uh seven and six last year five
Speaker 2: and three in the ACC. That's not anything to brag about.
Speaker 2: But it is a big improvement for them and maybe
Speaker 2: they you know, I mean, right now, since we're talking
Speaker 2: about it, I'm I'm I'm leaning taking the dogs here.
Speaker 2: I hear the dogs barking from over there in Ireland, baby,
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech plus thirteen. That's right, you hear them. They're
Speaker 2: far away, but they're they're barking. But outside of that,
Speaker 2: is there any other game that like is, so.
Speaker 4: I would say the second best game of the four
Speaker 4: is SMU Nevada later on in the evening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be sneaky because that's in Reno and
Speaker 2: SMU is believed to be, you know, borderline top twenty
Speaker 2: five type team this year in the eyes of a
Speaker 2: lot of folks, and they're getting I mean they're they're
Speaker 2: twenty they're twenty five. They're given twenty five to Nevada.
Speaker 2: I mean that's to me, that's a lot of points.
Speaker 2: I think I might have just talked myself to do
Speaker 2: a two legger there and we're talking dogs baby week zero.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any trends as far as, uh,
Speaker 2: you know what, what usually happens for favorites and dogs
Speaker 2: in week zero, But just knowing that we can look
Speaker 2: and we're only two and a half weeks away, three
Speaker 2: weeks away. Whatever it is from a game like that
Speaker 2: that gets me. It gets me super excited.
Speaker 4: The last two games on the Week zero slate are
Speaker 4: Montana State at New Mexico and Delaware State at Hawaii.
Speaker 2: Yeah those aren't great. Yeah, real quick, I didn't this.
Speaker 2: This is something I was not expecting to see. Whenever
Speaker 2: you know, scrolling through the Twitter timeline here, But I
Speaker 2: guess in the preseason debut for the Carolina Panthers tomorrow, Arn,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Thursday, Jack Plumber is going to get a
Speaker 2: chance to get to get some big reps. It sounds
Speaker 2: like Bryce Young has been held out of there is
Speaker 2: going to be held out of their first opener Thursday
Speaker 2: against the Patriots. And Andy Dalton, who's the backup, he's
Speaker 2: having some kind of a quad issue. So Jack Plumber
Speaker 2: is expected to get most of the work against the Patriots.
Speaker 2: What if he goes out there and just carves up
Speaker 2: the New England secondary and just you know, looks like
Speaker 2: a way different quarterback than what we saw last year.
Speaker 2: Because I think Jack Plumber is a tough guy to
Speaker 2: talk about at quarterback because you won enough games to
Speaker 2: where you know, if his job is to lead a
Speaker 2: team and win, he won. Now rarely was he like
Speaker 2: a huge part of it. But also at times you
Speaker 2: could you would see him make good plays and then
Speaker 2: you'd see him, you know, make bone headed mistakes. And
Speaker 2: it seemed like his bone headed mistakes at times would
Speaker 2: turn into three bone headed mistakes like he was trying
Speaker 2: to like he was pressing to try to overcome an
Speaker 2: earlier set back with an interception or something like that.
Speaker 2: But man, like, when I go to the Panthers tweet
Speaker 2: that says this, like there's a ton of Louisville fans responding,
Speaker 2: like just completely crushing Jack Plumber, and I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't great. I still feel like it's
Speaker 2: accurate to say he was the weakness of the offense.
Speaker 2: But you know, we almost had way worse quarterbacks than
Speaker 2: Jack Plummer. For being honest with you, So I hope
Speaker 2: he does well. I really do. All Right, we're at
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