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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like we have a major upset here in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure who Cole Hawker is. I gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, I've never heard the name, but Cole

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<v Speaker 2>Hawker is apparently the most talked about athlete maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>the world right now, because he just pulled off a

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<v Speaker 2>massive upset to win the Olympic goal in the fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred meter in Paris. And now two Americans are on

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<v Speaker 2>the podium because Cole Hawker won gold, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure of the name of the young man who won bronze,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is the first time since nineteen twelve that

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<v Speaker 2>two Americans have of have gotten two of the three

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<v Speaker 2>medals here. So middle distance running mark that down as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the new strings here of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the Olympics. I haven't seen an updated,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, medal count in the Olympics since earlier this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do know that as of yeah, twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>gold medals. That was as of this morning. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably changed since then because I just mentioned a

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<v Speaker 2>gold medal that the United States just won, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were tied with China at the end of yesterday for

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<v Speaker 2>the lead on overall medals or as I'm sorry is

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<v Speaker 2>for gold. As for the overall medal count, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're running away with it and that's that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you'd expect. And apparently there's another record that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be snapped. And I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 2>consider that a record, but for the United States again,

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<v Speaker 2>to know that it's been since nineteen twelve, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that just sounds insane. But it's been since nineteen twelve

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<v Speaker 2>that the United States had two of those three medals

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<v Speaker 2>in the fifteen hundred. But today this record as not

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<v Speaker 2>as not something going as far back as nineteen twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>but a thirty six year record could could be broken

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<v Speaker 2>because there I think the record for the two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>meter is twenty one point three four and the belief

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<v Speaker 2>is that Julian Alfred and Gabby Thomas are potentially gonna

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<v Speaker 2>maybe shatter that today. So that record has been in

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<v Speaker 2>place since the nineteen eighty eight Olympics. So records being broken,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, records are meant to be broken, aren't

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<v Speaker 2>they at least that's that's what I think. And I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't watched nearly as much of the Olympics as I

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<v Speaker 2>told myself I was going to do whenever we got closer.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the last couple of days now that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been back from vacation, I've at least been keeping up

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<v Speaker 2>with other things when it comes to the Olympics. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a video that always surfaces sometimes when we're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting close to the Olympics, or when the Olympics are

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<v Speaker 2>going on, or just randomly. And I will never not

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<v Speaker 2>cry when I see this video. That's probably not something

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<v Speaker 2>I should admit, but it's just the truth. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>British runner, Derek Redman, who tore his hamstring in the

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred meter semifinal back in nineteen ninety two, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's just in agony out there after tearing

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<v Speaker 2>his hamstring in the race, and he can barely move,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's still trying. He's limping, and then his father

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<v Speaker 2>somehow manages to make his way onto the track and

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<v Speaker 2>gives him, you know, some guided assistance and helps him

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<v Speaker 2>complete a full lap of the track as the crowd

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<v Speaker 2>you know, goes crazy standing ovation, and it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>such the visual of that, it's insane. And my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>part is that you see people who I guess work

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<v Speaker 2>for the grounds crew. They work for the Olympic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're there to keep people from, you know, running out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and two or three different people throughout the entire thing

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<v Speaker 2>try to stop this man from helping his son limp

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end of the finish line and he's just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at him like, you're not I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna help him, And it's just so cool, so

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<v Speaker 2>cool to see one of the coolest things I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen and gets me every single time. And we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that same thing happening right now. But I did

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<v Speaker 2>just see a video of Cole Hawker's father who was witnessing. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy, this wasn't expected at all, but

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<v Speaker 2>he ends up winning it. And there's somebody showing his

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<v Speaker 2>dad in the crowd as he's seeing his son out

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<v Speaker 2>there representing the United States pull off what is now

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<v Speaker 2>being described as one of the biggest upsets for the

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<v Speaker 2>United States in the in the current Olympic Games that

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<v Speaker 2>are going on right now, and his dad is just

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<v Speaker 2>in disbelief, and he keeps saying, what the F But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he doesn't say F. He says the actual

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<v Speaker 2>F word, which is like, that's that's such a raw

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<v Speaker 2>and real like emotion, like hopefully his son doesn't see

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<v Speaker 2>it and think like, is he's surprised? Did he not

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<v Speaker 2>think that I could? You know that I could pull

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<v Speaker 2>it off? But here is what the here's what the

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<v Speaker 2>victory sounded like for a Cole Hawker, who definitely became

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more famous today than he was an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Post on the conversation sets the favorites. That's good for

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<v Speaker 3>the outside post.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to see that. I mean that's like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's digging as deep as you can because it

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<v Speaker 2>looked as if the guy who was the favorite was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do what everybody thought in that late push unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just now realizing this again. Everybody's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Cole Hawker because he is the big up he got

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<v Speaker 2>the big upset, he's the winner. But the young man

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<v Speaker 2>who finished with the bronze medal is from right here

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<v Speaker 2>in Louisville. He went to Manuel High School and then

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<v Speaker 2>went to Notre Dame. And I've yeared now Goosey. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm saying that incorrectly, but I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of coverage here locally about because he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>few Louivillions that is in fact in the Olympics. But

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to him. He's going to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of history as well, because again, these two Americans finishing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with the gold and the bronze. That has

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<v Speaker 2>not happened for the United States again since nineteen twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane, insane stuff. All right, it's Coffee and Company.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't really any This has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the actual competition, the medal count and that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. But this is, uh, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad look for this, for this football coach. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>pull up the actual make sure I get the name

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<v Speaker 2>correct here, because I would assume that if you you

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<v Speaker 2>have a family member, brother, sister, son, daughter, cousin, even

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody that you know you are close with, that

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<v Speaker 2>is competing in the Olympics, like it would be a

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<v Speaker 2>known thing that you're gonna watch it, Like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>maybe take off work, right, I mean, you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you gotta do to watch it. Maybe you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be there, but you're gonna watch it. It's a big deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Navy's head coach Brian Newberry is getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>heat because apparently he's not letting one of his players

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<v Speaker 2>take a brief break from practice to watch his sister

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<v Speaker 2>potentially win Olympic gold. Like I mean, can't we like,

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<v Speaker 2>can't we agree? That's that's that's a jerk move, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you got to be a badass football robot

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<v Speaker 2>to where nothing in the world matters because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>about it's just about being out there on the field

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<v Speaker 2>getting better and working hard for the upcoming season all

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all that stuff. But like, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of his players has a sister who did, in fact

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<v Speaker 2>eventually win gold, and you know he couldn't He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even watching it on TV. I mean, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>they thought they did something cool here and maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 2>find out that, like he didn't want to watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's no way that this could comes out. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, they told me I could watch it

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<v Speaker 2>on TV, but I didn't want to. Like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Navy football Twitter account thought they did something cute

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<v Speaker 2>here and it says, the moment you find out your

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<v Speaker 2>sister won a gold medal of Olympics, congratulations to theo

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<v Speaker 2>la fond but I guess this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the great.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, your sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Just want to go, so like they promoted that like

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<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, our god, but it turned into be the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate backfire because everybody is dragging this program and this

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<v Speaker 2>coach for not like having like to see how rowdy.

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<v Speaker 2>His teammates are for him, because of course, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he's so happy. I'm proud of his sister. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>have one of the countless people on your staff that

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<v Speaker 2>are just out there at practice doing whatever you yell

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<v Speaker 2>at him to do, have them monitor it, and when

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<v Speaker 2>you get close, let the head coach know, gather the

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<v Speaker 2>entire team around to support this guy as he watches

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<v Speaker 2>his sister. Now you know, maybe she wasn't a favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>and like it would have been sad and he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to he'd be distracted. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's me and my sister is about tonticipate in the

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics and potentially win a gold medal. I mean, it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be all I was thinking about. Anyway, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>able to practice.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't get why, if you're him, why you

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<v Speaker 4>would rather hear it from the coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure that's my thing is like he probably

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<v Speaker 2>didn't Therefore they probably just was like, nope, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting an excused break from practice because it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>he had to, like he had to take the whole

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<v Speaker 2>day off. But I feel like, if if he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Olympics and support his sister. That'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit different because you can't like miss

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<v Speaker 2>weeks of camp as the season is quickly approaching. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, it's the Olympics. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different. So I'm glad to see that Navy football's

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<v Speaker 2>getting getting.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they would last year. I mean how I

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<v Speaker 4>mean not to not to trash the Navy football program.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it, hell with it, We'll trash him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what are they what are they good for other than

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<v Speaker 4>the Army Navy game in terms of I'm talking athletically,

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<v Speaker 4>not the Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good point. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know much about any of their other sports as far

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<v Speaker 2>as their success, but yeah, shout out to that young

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<v Speaker 2>lady who won a gold medal, and you know her

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<v Speaker 2>brother didn't get to see it live, but hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure he's still proud of her. All right. Something else

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<v Speaker 2>to mention when it comes to the Olympics. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many of you care about this, but we

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<v Speaker 2>now have a new all time leader when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to total point scored for United States basketball players in

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic action, and that is Kevin Durant, he passed. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks like, let's see, he passed Lisa Leslie for the

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<v Speaker 2>most points ever from a men's and women's player for

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<v Speaker 2>Team USA. And I will admit I did not realize

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<v Speaker 2>how successful Kevin Durant has been in the Olympics. I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's always he's been a part of these teams

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<v Speaker 2>for the United States for many Olympics now, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it shouldn't really shock me. But then again,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard about that just seems to always turn it

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<v Speaker 2>Carmelo Anthony. Like I feel like his career was like

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<v Speaker 2>on the downtick twice seemingly and then Olympic action going on, Boom,

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<v Speaker 2>He's out here, you know, Olympic mellow, and it never

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a lot of talk about Team USA

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<v Speaker 2>than what they were, but they've kind of they've quietly

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<v Speaker 2>right now or they just wrapped up. But as I think,

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<v Speaker 2>from the gold which is certainly the expectation. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at the personnel on this team, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this one. I still think when it comes to like talent,

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<v Speaker 2>know are up there, as far as the best that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the United States has to offer as basketball players,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as skill, talent, athleticism, I think John Morant,

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<v Speaker 2>when healthy, is worthy of that. Obviously, he's had a

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<v Speaker 2>him being quite frankly a domas about some stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he is, He's one of the best players

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And then I'm biased with this one, but

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<v Speaker 2>I still think Zion Williamson is a guy that went healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course that's not often. He's I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just he's special. And then Kawhi was a part of

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this this US men's basketball teams has been sensational,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, which is again what we expect.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we've got some news coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC is It sounds like they are going to

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<v Speaker 2>move forward and add a mandatory injury report by the

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<v Speaker 2>start of this upcoming season. The Big Ten has done that,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, is it last year? Maybe before? Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is apparently. I mean again, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think anybody's going to going to make you do this,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're looking into having all and I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like they're actually gonna do it. But they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have mandatory injury reports before games are played. So CBS

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Is Alex Scarborough and John Talty are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who first put this out there. But here this is

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<v Speaker 2>from their article. Quote a mandatory injury report hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>officially approved, but multiple sources indicate the details are close

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<v Speaker 2>to being finalized and are expected to be in place

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<v Speaker 2>at the start of the twenty twenty four season. A

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<v Speaker 2>decision could be made as early as next week, when

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<v Speaker 2>league athletic directors are scheduled to meet. The Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>became the first Power five conference to institute a game

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<v Speaker 2>day availability report during the twenty twenty three season, a

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<v Speaker 2>move designed to protect the integrity of the game with

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<v Speaker 2>respect to gambling. The league's weekly report had two categories

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<v Speaker 2>for injured players, questionable or out. Some a sc scols

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<v Speaker 2>like LSU and Florida released weekly injury reports last season,

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<v Speaker 2>but the majority opted against the practice. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always going to be a level of gamesmanship even

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<v Speaker 2>with this in place. But I do think if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have gambling be such a huge component to the

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<v Speaker 2>sports entertainment world, I think this is a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, makes total sense. Again, it probably won't be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one thousand percent honest. Although wasn't there some

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<v Speaker 2>controversy last year with the Big Tens where somebody was

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<v Speaker 2>accused of not being truthful on it was that a

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<v Speaker 2>horrball thing? Maybe wouldn't be shocker.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know for sure, but my mind immediately went

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<v Speaker 4>to Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I feel like there was something because it

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<v Speaker 2>had never happened before. There was never you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>the league did have an actual rule in place and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently they But again, you can you can wiggle around it,

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<v Speaker 2>right like if you didn't list a guy is out

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't play well, he stubbed his toe walking

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<v Speaker 2>out of locker room. Doctor said he can't go like

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<v Speaker 2>you could. You could. You could probably make up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff to make it to where you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>technically maybe break a rule. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this makes this makes sense. I mean, Kirby Smart. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a quote when he was asked about this at

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC Media Days last month. He says, if it

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<v Speaker 2>helps with gambling, that I'm all for it. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>geared to getting knowledge out there that people are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get from our student athletes and it protects them,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm certainly for that. So this is Sam Pittman, another

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<v Speaker 2>another SEC coach. Personally, it wouldn't be a bother to me.

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<v Speaker 2>If they want to know exactly what our injury report was,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to find out before the game. Anyway, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're at the game, you're going to see who's suited

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<v Speaker 2>out and who's not, who's limping and who isn't. But

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that if it would help our players not

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<v Speaker 2>get needled for information, I'd be all for it. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's that is another component as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>players being reached out to by I mean again, that's

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<v Speaker 2>like some of the injury injuries in college sports have

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<v Speaker 2>probably surfaced from some random student who saw a player

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<v Speaker 2>with a boot on his foot or something, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So you know, I I think it

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<v Speaker 2>makes total sense to be transparent with this and I've

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<v Speaker 2>never really Again, there's gamesmanship within football and there's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be that. Just nobody wants to give anybody

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<v Speaker 2>any chance to get an edge and see, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to get it. I mean, hick, there's still coaches that

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<v Speaker 2>don't let people film their spring games or their spring

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he Jeff Brown doesn't let anybody take any

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<v Speaker 2>picture or video when you come to the open practices

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<v Speaker 2>that they have. So that's just how coaches are wired.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to gambling, I mean, as someone

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<v Speaker 2>who gambles myself, all know going in that these may

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<v Speaker 2>not be, you know, one thousand percent honest, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will also appreciate there's at least some level of like

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<v Speaker 2>a reference point that you can see who's seemingly banged

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<v Speaker 2>Because if a guy's questionable but you think he's gonna play,

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<v Speaker 2>you may think, okay, well, if he's been banged up,

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<v Speaker 2>he may not be one hundred percent. That could that

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<v Speaker 2>could make an impact on what you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to when it comes to wagering. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys missed this news earlier, I know our

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock crowd probably wasn't with us at three o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you were, then you heard this this big

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<v Speaker 2>announcement from Pitt Bull, the entertainer, the mogul. He has

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<v Speaker 2>partnered with FIU in Miami to seemingly pull off the

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<v Speaker 2>first ever naming right sponsorship for a college football program

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<v Speaker 2>that is for an individual, not a brand or a corporation.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has purchased the naming rights to Florida International's

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<v Speaker 2>football stadium and a five year, six million dollar deal

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<v Speaker 2>and it will now be known as pit Bull Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>And as part of this agreement, pit Bull will pay

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<v Speaker 2>FIU one point two million annually. He's also going to

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<v Speaker 2>be named the official Entrepreneur of FIU Athletics, and he

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<v Speaker 2>will have the opportunity to use the stadium for up

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<v Speaker 2>to ten days each year without having to pay any rent.

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<v Speaker 2>He also can promote his new vodka brand at the

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<v Speaker 2>games and sell it. He's going to create an FIU anthem,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also gets two suites for up to forty

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<v Speaker 2>people at all football games. So you know, you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to see sponsorships much more than you ever

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<v Speaker 2>have in college athletics, because I'm not really sure you

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<v Speaker 2>ever have, right, Like, we haven't seen anybody have a

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<v Speaker 2>sponsor on their jersey yet, but that's coming. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be because they're going to need money. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>some schools that will have the ability to choose whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they want to monetize with a sponsor and a logo,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll be able to get insane money for because

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<v Speaker 2>that's how important that brand is to people. Right Like

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, their athletic director mentioned that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>look into a stadium naming rights deal. If you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, the quote was, we have to put everything

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<v Speaker 2>on the table. Naming rights of the stadium, the Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>patches of conversation that's from the ohouse that at the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State Athletic Director when it comes to evaluating all

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<v Speaker 2>new revenue opportunities, and Ohio State don't even really need it,

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<v Speaker 2>right because I think they'd have the money to foot

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<v Speaker 2>the bill for all this much more than most. But hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have unlimited money, you can seemingly go get

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<v Speaker 2>any player you want. But I do wonder, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is something for way down the line. We won't know

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<v Speaker 2>for many years to come. I would say, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have all this money, like we talked about this a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago, Dan Lanning at Oregon. The belief is

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<v Speaker 2>that Dan Lanning at Oregon literally has unlimited money from

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Knight of Nike to go get any player he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like that's a good thing to have,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, you don't have to worry about inil resources.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Mark Stoops is still crying himself to sleep every

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<v Speaker 2>night because he's got to do all this on his own.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Lord Wryan do this. He's just crying

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Whereas Dan Lanning doesn't have to cry because

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<v Speaker 2>he's got the bag from Phil Knight, which is good

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<v Speaker 2>to have. You would always rather have that as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>But you also have pressure because you can't use the

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<v Speaker 2>excuse that other coaches can, like Dan Lanning, can't go

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<v Speaker 2>to a coaches show like Mark Stoops and say pony up,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're an Oregon fan and he says that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need a pony up, Phil might is worth

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<v Speaker 2>a gazillion dollars and he's willing to pay whatever, so

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to. So if you are one of

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<v Speaker 2>these schools like Ohio State and it becomes clear that

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<v Speaker 2>like you're never not getting players because of lack of money,

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<v Speaker 2>that adds more pressure I think too, the coach and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody involved to win and get results with that money

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<v Speaker 2>that you're using. Because like some play, we'll never know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's really an excuse or not. But like when

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<v Speaker 2>you're Stoops and you're Kentucky, it's never anything your fans

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear. But like you can claim, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like it, pony up, we need your money.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet you know it's not the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bad look. But you know what, like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that is the reason you can't win because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the money. Well, if it's clear that you do

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<v Speaker 2>have the money and you don't win, like that sucks

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody involved. I do feel like there's it you work,

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<v Speaker 2>like when your team stinks and you are underperforming, like

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<v Speaker 2>that sucks for everybody involved, fans included. But if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a fan, I think it'd be even worse to know that,

419
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<v Speaker 2>like my team actually had all the resources, went out

420
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<v Speaker 2>and bought a damn good team and we still stump.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be worse than like knowing, well, hey, what are

422
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<v Speaker 2>you gonna do? These are the guys we had to

423
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<v Speaker 2>take because we're such and such school and not Bama

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<v Speaker 2>or Ohio State or Oregon. All right, quick break will

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<v Speaker 2>had somebody ask earlier on the text line, who I

435
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<v Speaker 2>think Pat Kelsey's first freshman commit is going to be. Well,

436
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:55.920
<v Speaker 2>he already has one. That was Kahani Rus who was

437
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<v Speaker 2>impressive in their two games in the Bahamas. And you

438
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<v Speaker 2>can tell, you know, that's a guy who is young

439
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<v Speaker 2>compared to the rest of this roster. He's an eighteen

440
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.279
<v Speaker 2>year old kid, whereas you got some fifth six year

441
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>seniors on this team. For Pat Kelsey, but you could

442
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<v Speaker 2>also see why he was viewed as a top thirty

443
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:13.920
<v Speaker 2>player nationally. He's gonna be pretty good and wouldn't be

444
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<v Speaker 2>shocked if he has, you know, a meaningful role this year.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Probably not a guy that's going to lead you in

446
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<v Speaker 2>minutes or anything like that. But you know, I was

447
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<v Speaker 2>really impressed with what I saw. But again, it's crowded.

448
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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of there's a lot of guy I mean,

449
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<v Speaker 2>that's something already new on paper when looking at this

450
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<v Speaker 2>roster once it was completed and then seeing this team

451
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<v Speaker 2>in action, even though it was against lower level competition, Like,

452
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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be guys that like one day they may

453
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<v Speaker 2>have the bulk of the minutes and put up eighteen

454
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<v Speaker 2>and then this a guy that's set their exact same position.

455
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<v Speaker 2>It may be their night the next night. And it's

456
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<v Speaker 2>just that's a good that's a I wouldn't say it's

457
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<v Speaker 2>a good problem to have because it's not a problem.

458
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<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing. It's it's a I mean, you

459
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<v Speaker 2>have options, you have depth. You can you know, have

460
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<v Speaker 2>a guy go out with foul trouble and go to

461
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<v Speaker 2>the bench and you know, you not dropping off really

462
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<v Speaker 2>at all. You might get better just depending on who's

463
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<v Speaker 2>playing better at that time. But to your question, I'm

464
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<v Speaker 2>glad you actually brought that up because high school football,

465
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<v Speaker 2>high school basketball recruiting hasn't really been a big talking

466
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<v Speaker 2>point around here for quite some time because, you know,

467
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>the team's been so bad and towards the end of

468
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the MAC era they were still dealing with the cloud

469
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<v Speaker 2>that did hurt them in recruiting. And then when Kenny

470
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<v Speaker 2>Payne came in, you know, he did actually recruit a

471
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<v Speaker 2>pretty good class, but there was not a whole lot

472
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<v Speaker 2>of I mean, that was a class that honestly, on paper,

473
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and it's crazy to say this out loud, but it's

474
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<v Speaker 2>the truth. That class was, depending on where you look,

475
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<v Speaker 2>one of the best classes in school history when it

476
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>comes to rankings when these guys arrive. Now again, Trent

477
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Flowers never played its second here and he left, but

478
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you know he was counted in the class whenever it

479
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.640
<v Speaker 2>was all said and done. Caleb Glenn, I mean, that

480
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 2>was a guy who was a top fifty player. Dennis

481
00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Evans was a five star by rivals. Tyler Johnson was

482
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<v Speaker 2>a high four star. Curtis Williams Junior was a top

483
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.839
<v Speaker 2>thirty forty player I think in the country. So you know,

484
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you had a good class. But because of what we

485
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 2>already knew, even if you didn't want to admit it,

486
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.400
<v Speaker 2>you deep down knew that this was gonna end poorly

487
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>with Kenny Pani as the coach. It just led to

488
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.039
<v Speaker 2>you not really being as juiced about a recruiting class

489
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 2>when you again deep down knew the team was probably

490
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be pretty lousy, and they were. So it's been

491
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<v Speaker 2>a while and the portal now being a very beneficial

492
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<v Speaker 2>tool for coaches to use to not have to rely

493
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>on freshmen as much right away, Like there's just not

494
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna be as many spots being taken. But by all accounts.

495
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey and his staff are still going to I mean,

496
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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna build this program, not with transfers every year.

497
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<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna see And again I always talk

498
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<v Speaker 2>about the formula. I think if you are really for

499
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<v Speaker 2>football and basketball, right, I a lot of different There's

500
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<v Speaker 2>way more numbers right than in football than basketball, way

501
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<v Speaker 2>more players. But if you can keep the majority of

502
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<v Speaker 2>the guys you want to keep, and I hate to

503
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<v Speaker 2>say this, but kind of weed out guys that it's

504
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>that it looks as if you know they probably will

505
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:11.640
<v Speaker 2>they've probably hit their ceiling it where they are with you,

506
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and they are probably going to look to leave for

507
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>a bigger role elsewhere, maybe drop down a level or something,

508
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 2>playing for a mid major. That opens up spots for

509
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<v Speaker 2>you to go get good players in the portal that

510
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<v Speaker 2>are better than the guys that are choosing to leave.

511
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<v Speaker 2>And you're always gonna lose maybe one or two that

512
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.799
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to lose, but that's just that's the

513
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>new world. And you hope that when that person leaves,

514
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you go get a player that's better in the portal.

515
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 2>And you also bring in freshmen, not as many as

516
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe you did pre portal, and maybe there's one of

517
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<v Speaker 2>them that has the talents Kahani Roost that's a top

518
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>thirty player. Those guys are more often gonna be ready

519
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to give you something as a first year player than

520
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>a kid who you know isn't in the top one

521
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.519
<v Speaker 2>fifty two hundred. So that's the formula, right, retain as

522
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 2>much as you can realize, you're gonna have some spots open,

523
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<v Speaker 2>most likely because guys are gonna look to leave because

524
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna want more money or they're gonna want more

525
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 2>playing time, and you're gonna know, hey, it's best for

526
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>both of us to just mutually split here. And then

527
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of course, you know you always you're gonna go out

528
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>in the portal, and that's really just gonna depend on

529
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>all right, do we really need to go get some

530
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 2>some role players, guys who can fill this void that

531
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 2>we have and guys that can give us this or

532
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that or is it okay, Look, we got a pretty

533
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>good core. Man, if we go out here and get

534
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>this guard who's one of the five best guards in

535
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>the portal, that really can put us over the humps.

536
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 2>So it will it will vary, but again, you're always

537
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna have true freshmen coming in this year. They only

538
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 2>had one because of obvious circumstances. But they're recruiting a

539
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 2>lot of kids in the twenty twenty five class that

540
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>they appear to be in good shape with. You're gonna

541
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>get some official visits from these players, so you know,

542
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to answer your question, Pat Kelsey's already landed his first

543
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.039
<v Speaker 2>high school signee with with Ruths And now you know,

544
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll see who ends up. Like these commitments are gonna

545
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 2>be coming before too long, right, you know, they'll make

546
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 2>their visits. Usually these guys do official visits for football games.

547
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 2>They'll hear whatever NIL packages are out there, and they'll

548
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>they'll base their decision off of that. So I won't

549
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 2>pretend to be a recruiting insider that has all the

550
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 2>intel as far as where Louisville stands with all these

551
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>players in the twenty twenty five class. But given the

552
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 2>guys they're in on and how many of them have

553
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 2>scheduled visits and you know, trim their list with Louisville included,

554
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean they have to. They have to have some

555
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty bad luck go their way to not land a

556
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>few of those guys. And if it's and if it's

557
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the caliber players that I'm seeing out there that are

558
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.519
<v Speaker 2>interested in Louisville and they're going to visit, You're probably

559
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a pretty damn good class. Which that was

560
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the question, right can Pat Kelsey? You know, he's not

561
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 2>recruited at the highest level as a head coach when

562
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>he's at Charleston and he's at Winthrop. But I remember

563
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>two of the guys who cover recruiting. One of them

564
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 2>is Rob Cassidy from Rivals, who joins us on the

565
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>show from time to time. When you got down to

566
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>the mid major caliber coaches, even Dusty May along with

567
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Josh Shirtz and uh and and Pat Kelsey, you know,

568
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 2>he said, without question, the coach whould have the best

569
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>ability to really basically utilize what he brings to the

570
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>table with his energy, enthusiasm, his his selling ability. We

571
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 2>learned about that in his press conference when he was introduced.

572
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>So take all of that that he brings to the table,

573
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 2>and now you throw in him selling Louisville, the brand,

574
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 2>the anile resources, the tradition, the NBA arena, the huge

575
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 2>fan base, all that kind of stuff, and it's got

576
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a chance to be super successful. So you know, he

577
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>hasn't landed, you know, any of these guys just yet,

578
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>but I'm I'm confident that I'm confident that he will.

579
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>And a man, it has been a while since we

580
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>were tracking an incoming freshman to see if they would

581
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>they would pick Louisville up. I mean, it happened briefly

582
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 2>with Jaden Quaints if you remember a few months ago.

583
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 2>But you know, he ended up going to UH to

584
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Arizona State, and you got to wonder if Pat Kelsey

585
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 2>let's and maybe Kelsey's I don't. I don't even want

586
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 2>to use him as an example because I don't want

587
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:02.039
<v Speaker 2>to act like I'm speaking for him, because I'm not.

588
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue. But maybe coaches try that way

589
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>to where they're going to always continue to recruit high

590
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 2>school kids. But maybe they went from trying to bring

591
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 2>in three to four to two to three. But then

592
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be coaches who realized, look, I don't I

593
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.799
<v Speaker 2>don't want to develop a freshman he might leave in

594
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>a year or two. Like I'm just gonna only bring

595
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>in players from the portal, and that's far from the

596
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>conventional way to do it, especially considering that the portal

597
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>is a brand new thing and the grand you know,

598
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>in the in the history of college basketball. But like,

599
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 2>who's to say that would be the wrong thing to do.

600
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Like every kid that you have on your team started

601
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 2>elsewhere and some of them are here for a couple

602
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 2>you know. Again, if you if you end up, if

603
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you did it, you know, Pat Kelse is gonna lose

604
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these guys to graduation, right, I mean,

605
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess technically they could still use a fifth year

606
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe or is that out is the COVID year over.

607
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 4>This is the final year of the COVID senior so yeah,

608
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 4>they'll be gone.

609
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So but what if if you are a fourth

610
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 2>year guy this year, can you use a fifth next year?

611
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>I guess it wouldn't be for COVID, but if you

612
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 4>had like another reason medically or something like that.

613
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, because like Chucky Hepburn is a true

614
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 2>four year senior guy. So his first year of college

615
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 2>basketball was the year they played they had the tournament, Yeah,

616
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, twenty one, Actually, I guess this would be

617
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, he would be the year after that. So

618
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's never been more difficult to truly

619
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>know when eligibility runs out for these college athletes. But

620
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of it's crazy to say it,

621
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't be shocked if in ten years, you know,

622
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>you have the elite freshmen out there that are still

623
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>being recruited by the big brands in the sport. But

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<v Speaker 2>then all the other coaches are like, look, my best

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<v Speaker 2>chance to win is to go get players from the

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<v Speaker 2>portal and not have a guy play for me for

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<v Speaker 2>two three years, and by the time he becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>good college player, then he bolts because you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>developed into a pretty good player. But now you can

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<v Speaker 2>go play in the SEC or the ACC or the

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<v Speaker 2>Big ten or something like that. The future is it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have no clue what it'll look like

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<v Speaker 2>really with anything and college athletics that are being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>The amount of change just in the last four or

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<v Speaker 2>five years and the amount of change that's coming in

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<v Speaker 2>the next two years is crazy when you consider where

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<v Speaker 2>we were, you know, ten years ago. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing

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<v Speaker 2>Find it on Apple Podcasts and also on the iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>Radio app. All right, so, John, you mentioned Week zero

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<v Speaker 2>and the games that are there the other day when

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking. I mean, would you judge me if

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that I'm already like building parlays for

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<v Speaker 2>Week zero.

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<v Speaker 4>What's amazing is that Week zero takes advantage of people

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<v Speaker 4>just being so horned up for football that the matches

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<v Speaker 4>don't even have to be good for, you know, people.

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<v Speaker 2>To tell yeah, I'm bricked up for some football, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>You have no clue.

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<v Speaker 4>The marquee game in Week zero is Florida State versus

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia Tech, the the now annual game over in Ireland

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<v Speaker 4>and that is that'll be at noon on Saturday the twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five, and it'll probably be a dud game. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>here I am because I'm so excited. I'm trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, convince myself. Hey, you know what Florida State man,

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<v Speaker 2>they life without Jordan Travis will see. You know dj Uklali.

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<v Speaker 2>Last time I checked, he wasn't very good at Clemson.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Georgia Tech they actually ended up having a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a pretty good season last year. Uh and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was was this was it his first

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<v Speaker 2>year there, Brient Key? Yeah, I mean Brent Key is known.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just this is this will be his third year.

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes uh seven and six last year five

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<v Speaker 2>and three in the ACC. That's not anything to brag about.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is a big improvement for them and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they you know, I mean, right now, since we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, I'm I'm I'm leaning taking the dogs here.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear the dogs barking from over there in Ireland, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech plus thirteen. That's right, you hear them. They're

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<v Speaker 2>far away, but they're they're barking. But outside of that,

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<v Speaker 2>is there any other game that like is, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the second best game of the four

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<v Speaker 4>is SMU Nevada later on in the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that could be sneaky because that's in Reno and

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<v Speaker 2>SMU is believed to be, you know, borderline top twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five type team this year in the eyes of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks, and they're getting I mean they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>twenty they're twenty five. They're given twenty five to Nevada.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's to me, that's a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have just talked myself to do

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<v Speaker 2>a two legger there and we're talking dogs baby week zero.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's any trends as far as, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, what usually happens for favorites and dogs

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<v Speaker 2>in week zero, But just knowing that we can look

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<v Speaker 2>and we're only two and a half weeks away, three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks away. Whatever it is from a game like that

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<v Speaker 2>that gets me. It gets me super excited.

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<v Speaker 4>The last two games on the Week zero slate are

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<v Speaker 4>Montana State at New Mexico and Delaware State at Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah those aren't great. Yeah, real quick, I didn't this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something I was not expecting to see. Whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you know, scrolling through the Twitter timeline here, But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in the preseason debut for the Carolina Panthers tomorrow, Arn,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Thursday, Jack Plumber is going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to get to get some big reps. It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like Bryce Young has been held out of there is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be held out of their first opener Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>against the Patriots. And Andy Dalton, who's the backup, he's

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<v Speaker 2>having some kind of a quad issue. So Jack Plumber

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<v Speaker 2>is expected to get most of the work against the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>What if he goes out there and just carves up

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<v Speaker 2>the New England secondary and just you know, looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a way different quarterback than what we saw last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think Jack Plumber is a tough guy to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about at quarterback because you won enough games to

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, if his job is to lead a

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<v Speaker 2>team and win, he won. Now rarely was he like

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<v Speaker 2>a huge part of it. But also at times you

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<v Speaker 2>could you would see him make good plays and then

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<v Speaker 2>you'd see him, you know, make bone headed mistakes. And

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like his bone headed mistakes at times would

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<v Speaker 2>turn into three bone headed mistakes like he was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like he was pressing to try to overcome an

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<v Speaker 2>earlier set back with an interception or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, like, when I go to the Panthers tweet

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<v Speaker 2>that says this, like there's a ton of Louisville fans responding,

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<v Speaker 2>like just completely crushing Jack Plumber, and I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he wasn't great. I still feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>accurate to say he was the weakness of the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we almost had way worse quarterbacks than

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Plummer. For being honest with you, So I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he does well. I really do. All Right, we're at

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<v Speaker 2>a time you guys enjoy your evening. We're back at

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<v Speaker 2>it tomorrow for a Humpday edition of the show, and

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