WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:32.079 Hey, everybody, it's October twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. Welcome 2 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.840 to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and sixty four 3 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:41.439 powered Bye NZXT. I'm your host, chan Shoa. Feeling the 4 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.359 spooky season in full. That's right. I let the horrors 5 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.479 and demons inside of me go outside and now I'm 6 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:53.280 ready to consume candy and scare people. Speaking about scaring people, 7 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:55.240 he's scaring people with how gosh. 8 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:56.359 Dang handsome he is. 9 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.960 Look at that hair, look at that jaw, Look at 10 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:00.200 that beautiful. 11 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.000 Smile in those piercing eyes. Jeff Grubb. Oh, thank you 12 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.480 so much, my sweet little pumpkin boy. Jianna Scholla, I 13 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:08.519 am happy to be here. I got off of my 14 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:10.719 big bean bag just to come here and do this show, 15 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:12.840 and I don't regret it, not for a second. 16 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:15.319 We got the bean Bag of Producers, And if you're 17 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:17.799 wondering what that means, I'm also wondering what that means. 18 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.959 But he's he's full of it, and he's full of 19 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:22.920 hard work, he's full of youth, he's full of energy. 20 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:29.200 The human, the human bean Bag of Producers, Turbo Shaan 21 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:30.319 Sean McDowell, Oh, I. 22 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:34.439 Thought you were going to Mike. You're going to me first? Shit, Yeah, 23 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:36.239 I know he's a producer. I'm like, what's the mic 24 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:37.640 do around here? What are you talking about? 25 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:39.400 Hi? 26 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:44.640 Hi, Turbo Dad, Happy Birthday? He's going, wow, Nor really, 27 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.159 Turbo Granny. That's that's a different things. 28 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.560 That's a very different thing. You want to keep that separate. 29 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.640 And we got the Turbo Granny of the website. 30 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:53.280 That's right. 31 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:59.120 He's he's haunting ghost tunnels, he's biting off parts of bodies. 32 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:02.799 He's he's possessing people. Mike, don't actually do that. I 33 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.000 don't want to. This is an anime character. You don't 34 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.680 want to look up the history of We got the 35 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:12.599 bad Boy of games Media from Games b Mike Man's 36 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:13.240 is this. 37 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.000 Another anime character that will depress me? 38 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:20.800 For a whole wikibo about Turbo Granny. 39 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.439 Let's not gonna not gonna depress you. But it was 40 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:31.000 from Dan to Dan. It's a new anime, Dan to Dan, 41 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:32.280 Dan dud Dan. 42 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.400 Yeah, it's kind of like Dan to Dan, Like I 43 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:36.719 was just pictured like like a ninety sick day, like 44 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.120 Dan too Damn like dance like finds his twin brother, 45 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.599 like the one's like whacky the other dance like, ah, 46 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:43.680 this gosh. 47 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:46.719 He's not here and this does remind me of thing. 48 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.800 It was like, uh, I know the Statute of Limitations 49 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:50.520 are up on this because it's been a while since 50 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:54.280 you guys were in Germany. But he clearly many times 51 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.240 heard Deutsche Land and in his head he's just like Dutch, 52 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.840 Dutch Land, and so when he brought up like, oh, 53 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:02.319 they they speak Dutch there, I'm like, it's no, it's 54 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.120 not exactly the same thing as Dutch and Deutsch. They're 55 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.159 different words. But uh I never yelled at them for 56 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:09.800 that one. There was too many other things to yell 57 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:10.120 at them. 58 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:13.479 You were still thinking about him not knowing what was 59 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:15.000 going on in Germany, and. 60 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.919 That that one, that one took up a president. That 61 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:18.960 one was more important. 62 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.639 We I know, every time we've talked about the game 63 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:26.400 awards or like getting together in Los Angeles, I've talked 64 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:28.240 about we should go to a batting cage, we should 65 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:29.120 go to top golf. 66 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.439 I think we should go to a museum with Dan. 67 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.000 Yeah, no, or why would you do that to me? 68 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:40.560 Jan Sean. You have to experience everything. You know you're 69 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.599 gonna see, you're gonna get your your your palate wet 70 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.000 by hanging out with these two hooligans and then two rekers. 71 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.800 Right you see, Okay, hang on, Jack, You see. The 72 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.080 thing is when the three of us are together, me 73 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.120 and Mike overpower a grub like. I know, Grubb's a 74 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:58.919 strong personality, but at least some common sense is brought 75 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:00.840 to the room. I can't do that with Dan in 76 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:01.719 a museum, man. 77 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.800 No, it's fine, it's fine. Bailey might be there and 78 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:05.639 she could yell that. 79 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:11.199 Does What would the funniest museum be to take Dan to? 80 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.599 He might actually like the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures. 81 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.319 Yeah, there's a hammer museum. What Oh, I don't think 82 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:21.800 it's actually about hammers. Ship Los Angeles museums, folks keep 83 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.680 it to that. Yeah, there's a natural history museum, which 84 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.199 are always a great time. 85 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:27.120 I love that. 86 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:31.240 That's probably my favorite genre of museum. Uh, yeah, for sure. 87 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:33.920 Yeah. They usually have like a skeleton of an older 88 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:35.560 human being or something like that. I like that. 89 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.839 I already went to the LaBrea tar Pits with him. 90 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:42.240 He just talked about uh Last Action Hero, the entire hero, Yes, 91 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:43.319 which was fun. 92 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.800 Did we take Dan to the Hall of Presidents in Disneyland. 93 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.480 No, so it's in Disneyland. It's not in Disneyland. 94 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.560 Disneyland just has great most of mister Lincoln, which is 95 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:54.720 also good. 96 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.000 It'd be funny. I think he'd just be bored. 97 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:00.399 I don't know exactly. 98 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.480 I think you just would it and like it. 99 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:04.279 Uh. 100 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:04.600 Yeah. 101 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:06.439 We did take them to the Liberty of Tarpets because 102 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.279 it was super close to the office. You refuse to go. 103 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:11.439 It was my birthday and I said, I. 104 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.000 Want you all to take me to the tarpits and 105 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:17.759 Jeff and did went and Jay was like, I'm not going. 106 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:25.439 I was busy take care of business and described to 107 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.720 Jeff backlar what Arawan was sure. 108 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.000 Oh thank god, Godie's after my birthday is here? Oh 109 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:32.519 thank god. 110 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.079 Yeah right, it's still gonna be kind of. 111 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:39.920 Yeah. 112 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.879 The threat of a cake is always looming, you know, 113 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.160 scares us all. 114 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.120 They just bring the wig and you could just make 115 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:50.519 a normal cake in my face and I'll put the 116 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.439 wig on it. I still have this for some reason. 117 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.040 Put the captizing. 118 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.040 Shouts out to uh the baker. I forget her name 119 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.279 and her Instagram account, but do you think now at 120 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.639 this point she may have made a mold of Mike's 121 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:03.360 face just. 122 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:07.839 Like annually in December, I'm just going to do this 123 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:08.560 from now on. 124 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:15.000 Preemptively starts making one in like September October. Boys, I 125 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:18.600 got a I got something that I discovered yesterday during 126 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:22.040 game as Mornings. Yeah, and this is Sean you were 127 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:27.920 you were present in the chat? Yes, right? Did y'all 128 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.759 know famic Coms? 129 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:32.319 Yo? 130 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:38.560 What a good name? Names like this? What is the switch? 131 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:39.480 Even? What's a Wee? 132 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:45.079 What's a super Nintendo? Give glass? 133 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:46.879 He left out with you because that's so obvious and 134 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:47.560 self explained. 135 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.079 That's like the Wee University. That's where we go to learn, 136 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:51.800 because it's like. 137 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:54.920 And then yet I. 138 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.199 Do like the idea of like primarily thinking of something 139 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.000 like the n as a computer, which of course they are, 140 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:03.680 and at the eighties, like you know, people still would 141 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.240 like things like the Conderact before they were computers. Atari 142 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:09.160 was like a computer company, you know, along with games 143 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.079 and whatnot, and like yeah, starting with the nes it 144 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:13.759 was like these are kind of a separate thing. 145 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.920 Actually the reason was in Japan they actually did have 146 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:19.759 a lot of applications for it that we never got, 147 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:22.040 Like to your tax you do or something is you 148 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:25.319 could like I think pay bills electronically, h horse betting. 149 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.480 I remember it was an app that they had then, 150 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:27.839 you know. 151 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.720 That, you know that was all market positioning, right, like 152 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:32.639 you can we talked about all the time where it's 153 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.000 like you can make someone convince themselves to buy something 154 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:36.800 if you give them the story of like, here's what 155 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:38.720 you're going to do with this exactly. And even in Japan, 156 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.519 all those applications, for as much as people might have 157 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:43.279 actually used them, it was definitely intending to be on 158 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.480 like we'll get it, well, they'll convince themselves with this, 159 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:47.240 and then they're gonna end up buying all these. 160 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.959 Right because back then, you know, having a computer in 161 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.199 your home was the ideal, and the thought of having 162 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:55.959 you know what would have been at the time, like 163 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.279 a two hundred dollars or whatever a computer in your 164 00:07:58.279 --> 00:07:59.879 home was extremely appealing to people. 165 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.800 And in America, they it was like a much different 166 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.879 market reality where it's like the Apple two had already 167 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.199 kind of really won over a lot of people, and 168 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:09.560 so it was like, we're not going to be able 169 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:10.800 to tell people this is a computer, so what do 170 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:12.920 we tell them it's a toy that you know, a 171 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:14.920 robot that comes with a little thing over here, like 172 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:16.199 a control box or whatever. 173 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.720 That's why they because they needed to mark it as 174 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.120 something I wasn't. Hey remember the Atari, like you know 175 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.839 crash No no, no, no, no no, this isn't one of those. 176 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:25.720 This isn't one of those. 177 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.079 Is really just like an abbreviation slash shortening of service games. 178 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:34.240 Yeah, yeat as less. 179 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:38.559 Fun hawaii I believe as a Yeah, yeah, they made 180 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:39.639 a variety of games. 181 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:44.759 I think Capcom is short for Capsule Communicator. I thought computers. Yeah, 182 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.120 that's the NASA short ning. So I made a joke. 183 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:48.679 I'm sorry. I thought Micha would get it because we 184 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:49.799 both listened to that same book. 185 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.440 Yeah, very good. 186 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:57.360 His thoughts again? 187 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.799 All right, you do like the name? 188 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.279 My brother would en whenever we would like beat a 189 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:06.159 Mega Man game, usually because we use game Genie, and 190 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.440 then like the Capcom like logo would like come up 191 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:09.600 from the end of the credits would be. 192 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.000 Like Capcom cap Com. 193 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.559 Did we go run around our parents screaming Capcom at 194 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:15.080 them and they'd be like, we're scared. 195 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:20.679 Stop Jane. I get sometimes having those you know, phoenix 196 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:25.720 down moments. It was I was probably a teenager, not 197 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.240 like late teens, but like early teens when I realized 198 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:32.679 that the reason that Pika choose ours nemesis in the 199 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.720 TV shows me out is because Cat and Mouse, right, Like, 200 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.720 it took me a long time to catch on that. 201 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:39.759 So sometimes you have those moments, you know. 202 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.440 I listen, folks, I have those moments every single day. 203 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.440 You add a little bit of whimsy in your life. 204 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.480 Don't learn anything, but learn things. That's the giant bomb motto. 205 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:53.039 How's everyone else doing? You know you celebrate Halloween early 206 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:54.159 or yeah we are? 207 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:57.559 This weeknd's out trigger treating in Finley, Ohio, And it 208 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.559 was really really pretty because you know, tree lined streets 209 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.360 and they were all turning colors and it was just 210 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.399 like it made me want to play Costume Quest real bad, 211 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:07.399 which running out of time to do that on the website, 212 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:08.960 but I don't know, maybe I'll take an evening one 213 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.919 of these nights and play that because it was just 214 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:12.759 like reminded me of that and that's a really fun 215 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.480 game this time of year. But uh, yeah, we went 216 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:19.159 out there and they were dressed as as Bluey and 217 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.039 a lobster. That's like their go to for like when 218 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.320 we have like, yeah, I have thee meet exactly. They've 219 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.200 done that before. And then we went went went out 220 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:28.799 there and it's I was like looking for video game 221 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.360 characters and it was like, I'm not a ton this year. 222 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.480 Not a ton of video characters out there for the kids. 223 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.519 What was the popping costume you saw? You know, there's 224 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:38.559 nothing that really, I don't know. For some reason, I 225 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.039 saw a lot of football players. I don't know. 226 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:41.679 It was, yeah, how many. 227 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:45.120 We saw like one minion. 228 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:46.480 That's good, you know what? 229 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:51.320 We did see one bean. We saw one big like 230 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.799 inflatable costume that has the active cooling flowing the fan 231 00:10:54.879 --> 00:11:00.679 in and they were a bean from Fall Guys. 232 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.080 Not among Us, not among us. 233 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.080 A little girl, a little girl was like, it's among 234 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.879 us and the bean stopped, turned around said I'm from 235 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:08.679 Fall Guys. 236 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.039 Eye. 237 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:15.519 I was like, oh, that's an angry bean. Yeah, but 238 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.000 it was that that the kids like that because they 239 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:19.879 have never played Fall Guys. But it looks like a meap, 240 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:21.360 so I'm like, oh, yeah, we should try that. 241 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.279 When Jeff said, Bean, what was the first thing that 242 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:25.159 came into your mind? 243 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:27.720 Guys? 244 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.240 I thought first mister Bean and then killer Bean in 245 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:31.759 that order. 246 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:36.960 Sure, Taylor, Oh god, last year. 247 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.240 I think I mentioned this last year, but last year, 248 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.399 when I was passing out candy, there was a kid 249 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.960 dressed up as Joe Dirt and only one that understood 250 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:49.919 what he was exactly. Why r what nine year old 251 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:56.399 is going to dress up as Joe Dirt? American David Spades? 252 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:59.320 And then like I look at the I look at 253 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.080 the dead. I asked, like, did you dress him up 254 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.399 as Joe there? It's like, no, he came across the 255 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:04.799 movie and really likes it. 256 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.399 He was he was browsing crackle. 257 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:13.679 Oh actually probably huh like services is Joe Dirt a 258 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.600 wholesome movie moments? 259 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:17.919 Right, No, there's a part where he makes that lady 260 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:19.919 pretend to be his sister while they. 261 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:29.039 Yeah, right, there's a whole incest subplot. Right, it's not 262 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:33.919 like the right, the pest is fine, right, as I think. 263 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:38.440 There's some problematic uh dressing up as Asian people in 264 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.120 the beginning of the movie. But yeah, maybe in the 265 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:44.519 first five minutes after that. 266 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.759 All little movies maybe haven't aged all the time. 267 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.559 Yeah, turns out, uh, oh right, friends, we're we're you're, 268 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:55.000 we're all in store for Spooky Weeker at GB dot com. 269 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:59.240 We're gonna, you know, do some spooky things as time permits. 270 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:00.480 I'm gonna do my thing. 271 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.279 I'm gonna do my thing. But in the meantime, let's 272 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.559 talk about video game now. I refuse. 273 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:10.200 You can't make me all right, bye, Felicia. 274 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:11.360 Yep, get out of here. 275 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:12.559 Don't. 276 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:17.919 Actually it's gonna make it's right there, Come on there. 277 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:18.799 All right, change my mind? 278 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:19.080 I play? 279 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:19.960 Thank you. 280 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.600 There was a new Black Op six, and I've downloaded 281 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:31.039 a portion of it because I was very confused as 282 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.559 to what to download and whether or not I should download. 283 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:33.720 What's wrong with you? 284 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:35.919 Get it from Steam where they don't give you a choice. 285 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:38.360 They don't. It was does you do. 286 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:40.480 What is wrong with the olds? At this site? It's 287 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.320 a checklist, just check the things you want. 288 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.919 I didn't. I got a check list after I installed it. Yeah, 289 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.399 but I Steam three hundred but I did installed three 290 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.720 hundred and sixteen gigabytes first, and it was like all 291 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.399 my drives are uh huh No, that's. 292 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:55.360 Like every other Steam game. You unchecked the things you 293 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:57.200 don't want because you got all the DLC. 294 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.279 Yeah, okay, so that's how every game works. Okay. So 295 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:06.200 if I would have gone into the the DLC option 296 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:09.519 on the properties and everything says DLC now, so like 297 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:11.679 Black like Modern Warfare two would have been listened as 298 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:12.440 DLC there. 299 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.039 Yeah, that's probably why that was huge, is yeah Black 300 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:16.120 opps like. 301 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.480 It installed it all. Yes, it installed every single thing 302 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.320 that that is in that launcher, and then I just 303 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:24.320 went in afterward in the app itself and de selected 304 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:24.840 some things. 305 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.440 Mostly the Xbox app is weirdly good because it gives 306 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.360 you a checklist before it's like these are that's what 307 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:31.879 I'm expecting, and yes, and I like that system that 308 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:33.840 worked really well when I used that in the past, 309 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:35.600 and I was like expecting that here even though and 310 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:37.360 I'm like, I don't remember Steam doing that, so Didnyone 311 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.799 occurred to me that would credit to the console players, 312 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:41.559 because if what Nicky showed us that one time, it's 313 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.039 still true that system is messed up. It's just a 314 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.279 bunch of things named Call of Duty and you have 315 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:49.279 to like look at the icons and the file size. 316 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:50.080 That's messed up. 317 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:51.799 But at least they made it better. 318 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.559 I like, it just installed the two things for me. 319 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.320 But it was annoying because I think this, like the 320 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.919 single player game is the one that's actually a separate executable. 321 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.600 So he opened the Call of Duty app, I select 322 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.519 the campaign. Then it like force closes that app and 323 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.200 opens up the different one, and I'm okay, yes, network 324 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.200 from there, I try to play multiplayer. 325 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:11.919 So I clicked that. 326 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.440 It closed that app and then just never actually opened 327 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.360 the multiplayer app and then it will never open again. 328 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.200 So I actually haven't played multiplayer yet. 329 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.000 Yeah, So it's that the campaign is a separate app. 330 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:26.000 It is at least smart that the primary thing is 331 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.000 the Black Ops six multiplayer, because that's one of the 332 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.120 most people launched the game. Yeah, but I also updated 333 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:33.919 the UI. Do you guys find the UI better in 334 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:34.440 the cod app? 335 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:38.960 At least oh I do. Yeah, I wasn't immediately like furious. Yeah, 336 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:39.840 looking at it. 337 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.320 You launched into war Zone. It's still that absolute god 338 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:45.600 awful mess, but at least not when you watch the 339 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:47.440 Call Duty app. It's like, do you want to play 340 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:51.039 Black Ops six Modern Warfare three or war Zone? And 341 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:52.279 then other stuff is over here. 342 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:54.519 It's so the thing though, where it's like okay, there's 343 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.480 like on the screen. It was like my three options 344 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.240 where Black Op six Campaign, Black Ops six multiplayer, or 345 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.360 war Zone. So I click campaign but then it just 346 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.600 opens a separate thing where I have three options of 347 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:09.039 Black Op six Campaign, Black Ops six Multiplayer, Black Ops 348 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:09.519 six zompies. 349 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:14.200 I was like, it's not good, But like I said, 350 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.080 I'm not immediately furious that ways was looking at the 351 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.639 Call of Duty app in the past. So that's that's nice. 352 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:24.679 At least they're improving somewhat. Hey, that's that's Call of 353 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:26.960 Duty and Call of Duty it feels good, right, it's 354 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.399 I played probably an hour and a half of the multiplayer. 355 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:32.159 I got to level seven or something like that. I 356 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:36.320 have like a one point three kDa in case anyone's wondering. Uh, 357 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:39.759 it was it's like, oh yeah, all the stuff that 358 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:43.080 they did, the the hit markers, the way the guns pop, 359 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.519 the way it feels to fire a weapon, uh, the 360 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.120 way it feels to flop around a dolphin dive to 361 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.679 now backwards dolphin dive and then look around and all 362 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:55.399 this stuff. The omnidirectional movement system is pretty good. Uh yeah. 363 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:57.240 Call of Duty is just a fun game to play. 364 00:16:57.240 --> 00:16:59.159 There's a reason it's been so popular for so long, 365 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.399 and it's the same reason that it became popular in 366 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:05.319 the first place. It feels better than just about any 367 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.160 other game, and whether or not that is still what 368 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.279 I want. Like, I've done my time with college eity, 369 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.200 thousands of hours in many of these games, and I 370 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:16.079 don't think I'm ever going going to be in a 371 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:18.720 place where I go back. I'm like, I'm happy to 372 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:20.559 move on to other games now. But when I do 373 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.799 pick it up, it's like, oh, yeah, of course I stole. 374 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.279 It feels good. Yeah, it still feels good. The big 375 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:30.319 Black Ops six multiplayer hasn't blown me away because if 376 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.359 you have been keeping up with the series, which I 377 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.359 don't play every single one, but like I've mentioned on 378 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.400 the show before, me and my friends hopped into Modern 379 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:42.480 Warfare three because it was in some ways an old 380 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.640 MW two remake in a lot, you know, in presentation 381 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.160 because all the maps, guns and everything like that, it 382 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:51.200 kind of felt like playing the old game. And so 383 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.160 Black Ops six, if you've played Modern Warfare three or 384 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.039 even war Zone or anything recently, it kind of just 385 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.839 feels like that. But with the addition of yeah, what 386 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.079 was it called the three sixty degree movements system or 387 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:08.079 where they're calling it omni directional. Amni directional would make 388 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:10.599 sense because the big changes are you can now sprint 389 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:12.240 in a directional. 390 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.160 Which is a very realistic. I might say I tried it. 391 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.119 It turns out you don't sprint as fast when you're 392 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:17.640 going like. 393 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.480 I could side step so quick like a crab. Man. 394 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:22.200 It is weird. 395 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.079 Is your do your hips not completely turn independent of 396 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.799 where you're facing as you run like a ken dole 397 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:33.160 or whatever, backwards like an owl but only with my ass? Uh? 398 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:35.839 Cool though, because it's like you can sprint in any direction, 399 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.960 you can also like do the you can do direction 400 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:40.440 well we paint it. 401 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:44.119 That's more interesting because running in a direction actually feels 402 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.559 kind of weird if you're used to having like I'm 403 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:49.480 used to moving a direction stops my sprint and so 404 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.519 it sort of like stops you dead. Some of my 405 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.440 play style revolves around that. So it's been a little weird. 406 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:56.319 The diving in a direction school because you can quickly 407 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.960 get them way of fire. Maybe more interesting is actually 408 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:02.160 you can now look in a direction on the ground, 409 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.079 which means that you can be prone and if someone 410 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:07.839 sneaks up behind you can turn around and shoot them, 411 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:10.240 which you know downside of it takes a while to 412 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:13.720 look over there, and that long not that long and 413 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.680 you are exposed more because obviously your player has to 414 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.680 get up off the ground in order to like look 415 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.720 at that person. But you're still prone. And you know, 416 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.359 these are the small things that they're adding in multiplayer 417 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:25.000 year over year. 418 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.200 That right, we're deep into the Madden upgrade. 419 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:29.559 Second, Yeah, pretty much. 420 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.880 Here's the truck stick that was cool, right now, here's 421 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:36.200 the hit stick, and here's QB vision that was you 422 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.599 guys want that, And it's like we're there with. 423 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:41.880 But if you haven't played it a long time, you 424 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.400 know it's fun. I find the maps to be pretty good. 425 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.559 I still prefer Infandy Ward's maps over Trey Arcs in general. 426 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.759 I always have yeah, so, but it still feels good 427 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:52.200 to play. 428 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.359 Yeah. I when I when I get to a map 429 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.440 that I'm like, oh, I have played this a little 430 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:59.759 bit in one of these games before. It must have 431 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:01.519 been one of the previous Tree Arch games. I guess 432 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.319 I don't know where these maps are coming from. I'm like, oh, okay, 433 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:05.880 and I remember some of the stuff and I start 434 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:07.839 poking around like oh yeah. Once I learned the maps, 435 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:09.640 I have an even better time with this game. And 436 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.279 I always appreciate Call of Duty for giving you the 437 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:16.279 immediate skinner box of let's upgrade all these weapons, let's 438 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.880 upgrade your character, unlock new stuff. Maybe one of these 439 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:21.319 is better. It never really works out that way. All 440 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.319 the guns are pretty well balanced, but you just get 441 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:24.599 in your head like, oh, I'm going to get a 442 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:26.400 better weapon and that's going to make me better. And 443 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:28.160 really what you're doing is you're getting the reps in 444 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.519 so you know how the game works, you learn the maps, 445 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.240 and then you start having fun because so that's that reason, 446 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:35.440 and then the upgrades don't matter so much. So Call 447 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:37.279 of Duty continues to nail that stuff. I think the 448 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.400 upgrade path here is pretty legible, pretty easy to understand. 449 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:47.640 Building your loadouts pretty easy to understand, which I appreciate. 450 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.839 They have simplified from why I think MW simplified free Boot. Yes, 451 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:53.359 was the one that had the issues of like how 452 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:55.480 do I unlock everything? I need to use guns over 453 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:57.480 here in order to unlock something for the current gun, 454 00:20:57.559 --> 00:20:59.240 what the hell is going on? It is back to 455 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:01.759 like traditional leveling, so it's easier to understand. 456 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.039 I think My big takeaway at this point though, with 457 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.200 Call of Duty overall, like at a high level, is 458 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.559 there was a time when these games each felt like 459 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.680 they had their own voice because it was Trey Arc 460 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:16.359 or Infinity War, and that is just that I don't see. 461 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:18.960 Did you like the parade of developers when you open 462 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.319 the game up that that they show, right, like all 463 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.680 the people who work on it, and it's like, you know, 464 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:28.319 of course it's Trey Arc and what Raven first, right, 465 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.200 and it's like and here's like the fifteen other ones. 466 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.519 Even Infinity War kind of help on this starts like 467 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:33.960 all the stars are here. 468 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:35.640 Oh yeah, because a lot of their tech is in here. 469 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.319 Now I actually don't know the engine if it's the 470 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:40.720 new IW engine. So yeah, yeah, the game. 471 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:42.200 The games are too big that they don't have a 472 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:43.200 choice anymore exactly. 473 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:46.200 I think maybe more interesting is to talk about the 474 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:48.799 stuff outside of multiplayer, because people are kind of talking 475 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:50.160 about the campaign a lot right now. 476 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:54.839 Yeah to the campaign. So I'm curious about this. What 477 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.839 is the TTBC. 478 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:02.559 Time to tell Bill Clinton? Yes, Oh, I'm still so like, 479 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.079 I'm like, I think I'm still in the Bush administration 480 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:06.400 where I am in it right now. 481 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.559 I haven't seen Clinton. Excuse you, sir, Yeah, I've been 482 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:12.039 born yet. 483 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.599 Mike in the game, but by the time the game 484 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:15.200 is going. 485 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:16.400 Oh god, what year were you born? 486 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:17.160 Ninety one? 487 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:20.319 Oh, I think I'm like around that. 488 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.640 It could be a mission very clear that it's in 489 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.200 the nineties out I think it's nebulous. 490 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:28.480 That's like long legs. 491 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.200 Yeah, I do like that ninety stuff, right, because that's 492 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.440 fine because I was say, I remember the nineties, I 493 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:34.559 was there gandolf. 494 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:37.920 You know, it's fun because I have not. 495 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:40.079 Played a Call of Duty campaign and a long time. 496 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:43.000 I think the last one I really played was Advanced Warfare, 497 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:45.240 the Kevin Spacey one Slash the Press. 498 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.160 You miss You wouldn't missed a game with Kevin Spacey, 499 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:48.640 of course. 500 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.920 No, right, So yeah, you know it is kind of 501 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.599 fun playing. He's like, oh yeah, these are very spiffy. 502 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.839 You can't see the money being put into these things. 503 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:02.559 They are very flashy. They definitely feel good to play, 504 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:05.440 and you know, there's still kind of a simplicity to it, right, 505 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.079 Like you know, I think people will kind of explain 506 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.039 them as gallery shooters, and that is kind of what 507 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:11.880 it does feel like a lot of time, even though 508 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:15.400 there's a stealth mission, right and it's like, Okay, that's neat. 509 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.240 It's relatively simple stuff. But it feels good enough. There's 510 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.799 like a home base and it's this weird, creepy mansion 511 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.759 and I like that fine, just walking around there. You 512 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:28.400 can find money during the missions and use that for 513 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.799 upgrades in the mansions. You can do things like augment 514 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:32.480 your weapons or stuff like that. 515 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:34.599 You know. 516 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:37.400 It does still feel ultimately kind of simple for me, 517 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:38.920 and I think that's fine. I think this is kind 518 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:42.400 of you know, popcorn munchin Call of Duty campaign stuff. 519 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.359 Part of it is me just realizing, yeah, maybe like 520 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:51.680 military aesthetic. Is it my favorite biome for videocames? Right, 521 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.359 you know, like just kind of running around you know, 522 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:59.319 war torn places and stuff like, you know, okay, this 523 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.680 person has a and put your people dancing and it's 524 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:03.240 a piece of shit. 525 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:04.599 I'm like, yeah, it's all gross. 526 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:05.160 I agree. 527 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.640 Fun. So have you not gotten to the by way 528 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.799 I misspoke, Governor Clinton? Sorry, you haven't gotten to bill 529 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:12.640 at all yet? You haven't seen that level? 530 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.359 No, I've done like the first three levels I've done, 531 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:17.640 so okay, nothing's super crazy far it. 532 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.480 Well, right, but I'm saying you haven't gone to that 533 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:23.960 level yet. Where Okay, so you're missing where it really 534 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:29.680 turns Mike where you get Hitman adjacent stuff going on 535 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:33.000 here and where you need to infiltrate, and the game 536 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:35.720 it's it's not like you know, you think called do 537 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:39.319 you think like corridor shooting right, yes, and it's no. 538 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.559 You get to a level where the goal is we 539 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.279 need to infiltrate something and in order to do so, 540 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.799 we need to go through this like a government party, 541 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.799 you know, where they were doing some like campaign rally thing, 542 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.640 and so this is our in and so you go 543 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:56.759 in there. You know, it's just like a walk and talk. 544 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.759 But then they're like, Okay, how do you want to 545 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:00.880 approach this. You can go over here and try to 546 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.079 like schmooz this person. You can go over here and 547 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.599 do a sneaking path. You can go over here and 548 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:08.720 try to like it's it's hit Man light. I want 549 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:12.640 to be very clear to light but kind of a 550 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.519 little bit and then sounds fun. That's not the first 551 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.519 time that they branch out too. There's a level that 552 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:23.000 is open world kind of and it's again it's light. 553 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.839 It's simple, it's open zone. It's very inspired by Sonic 554 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:28.559 Frontier exactly. 555 00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:30.960 You run the circles. It's like a kind of a 556 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.319 big map it's sort of like, hey, remember that crappy 557 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:35.640 thing they did for Modern War for three. It's kind 558 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.000 of like that. And so there's a good variety in 559 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.240 the campaign I'm enjoying so far. Even if you know 560 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:43.799 the uh, the political intrigue and everything like that, it's 561 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.559 seen through the divisor of you know, US military and everything. 562 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.359 It's it's whatever, right, there's an evil paramilitary group or something, 563 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.240 and it's the government might. 564 00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.720 Be involved, you guys like ever because I'm a dad 565 00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.359 and an older gentleman like top. 566 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.680 Plenty is what you want to say, Like, I've really 567 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:02.920 playing right October. 568 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.039 It's like I could watch that movie like fifty times. 569 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.799 Does it rise to that level? 570 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:08.599 So? 571 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.960 But curly on and also so there's a lot of 572 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.160 returning characters from that Black Ops universe, and that means 573 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.519 nothing to me, right, I played Black Ops one. I 574 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.319 think if the threads don't tingle. 575 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.319 So I played most Call of Duty campaigns. I think 576 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.039 where I fell off was with Vanguard, just because I 577 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.279 can't stand you know, World War two stuff at this point, 578 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:31.519 or World War one and whatever. 579 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.759 World War two. It's the ship I wish more games. 580 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.200 I had that I was in a talk about musical 581 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.319 acts for something, and I was like, I know the 582 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:45.000 gamer wrapper. I stop myself from. 583 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:48.680 Saying, yeah, so I've only missed Black Ops Cold War, 584 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.319 and immediately starting the campaign, I'm like, what are any 585 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.200 of these people talking about it? Like this is Black 586 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.839 Ops six and like if you miss the last one, 587 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.119 you'll like catch up on like, oh, this person failed 588 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.359 a mission, so they're game in trouble. This person did 589 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.559 this thing wrong, so they're troubled this way. But yeah, 590 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.279 I have no idea what they're talking about, the game, 591 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:06.680 but they. 592 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.880 Starts with the same framing devices PERSONA five. It's an interrogation, 593 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:11.200 not wrong. 594 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:14.440 But then yeah, and then the last thing is the 595 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.799 zombies mode. Me and my friends fired that up last night, 596 00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:18.119 you know, spooky time Halloween. 597 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:19.160 That's good. 598 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.519 You know what. I got tired of cod zombies way 599 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.720 back in the day, especially when they tried to do 600 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:28.279 like Aliens in uh was it infinite warfare? 601 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:29.400 That's not zombies? 602 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:33.480 Then yeah, are yeah whatever? Why are that a ghost 603 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.160 ghosts where they did Aliens? That's good, you know it is. 604 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.480 It does. I don't know if God Zombies has gone 605 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.359 other places since, because I haven't played it since back 606 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.640 in the day. But it does feel like just a 607 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.599 more refined version of well you played probably in Black 608 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.880 Ops Wonder whatever, if you're like me, you know, back 609 00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.319 in like your high school and college years playing zombies 610 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.759 in those slightly older Black Ops games. Like it's a 611 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:58.960 little nostalgic going back to that and having it be 612 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.480 good and you can fire up the work bench now 613 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.799 to craft stuff. I think that wasn't the originals. And 614 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:06.559 then the map is very good, the first one we 615 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.519 played on at least. Uh yeah, I like it. It's solid. 616 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.000 All right, Maybe we'll we'll we'll dig up some zombies 617 00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:17.279 and play Black Op six on the website, if not 618 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.839 this week, very soon. A lot of stuff popping off 619 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.880 this week. Yeah, speaking about a game being played on 620 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.319 this website, we played Echo Point Nova last week, fantastic 621 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.839 first person shooter Jesus Christ. The movement absolutely insane and 622 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.680 shouts out to be able to flip by just wiggling 623 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:34.480 your mouse around. 624 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:36.519 Yep. Yeah, it was like when I was trying to 625 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.000 figure that, I'm like, because dam I's doing on the 626 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:39.880 right Segma, how does this working? Then I was like, oh, 627 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.519 I clicked, Like oh if I just moved the mouse forward. 628 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:46.240 I'll just do awesome front flips hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. 629 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.720 The game has agility orbs. I kind of feel like 630 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:50.519 you don't need to say much more than that, right, 631 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.119 like like it has all like an awesome move set, 632 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.039 Like I love a game that has a great move set. 633 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:56.640 And it's like, hey, yeah, here's the double jump and 634 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.279 you can upgrade that and I guess you get up 635 00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:01.119 like a quintuple jump or something like that that when 636 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.119 you hit the shift button to go into sprint mode, 637 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.079 you get out your hoverboard and then it enables you 638 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:10.000 to run on walls. All that stuff is awesome I love. 639 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.359 And it feels really good here and you can, like 640 00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.799 you really can carry that momentum for do your double jumps, 641 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.359 do a grapple, grapple off a cloud to get to 642 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.920 another floating platform. All that sounds awesome because it is. 643 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.440 And then on your mini map you see a green dot. 644 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.920 That's an agility ORB. Go get that. Get enough of those. 645 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.160 You could do more stuff. That's awesome. Yeah, it's a 646 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:31.839 good loop. It looks good. It plays really fast. The 647 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.720 combat are these arenas that are set up that scale 648 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.559 depending on how many people you're playing with. We did 649 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.759 I played some solo. We also did some four player 650 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.960 co op, and those were kind of They're fun and 651 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.079 pretty quick and a little bit harrowing sometimes when they 652 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.000 like you know, the big mechs would show up and 653 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.519 we kind of would scape by. Sometimes it was nothing 654 00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.079 too like the combat is not going to blow you away, 655 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.240 but it's fun enough to be like these punctuation marks 656 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.039 at the end of the sentence that is, I just 657 00:29:58.039 --> 00:29:59.839 did this awesome thing and this awesome thing to get 658 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:01.839 o here, and now we're exploring this part of the 659 00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.119 map where that has a new combat arena. Let's do 660 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.160 that and then move on so we can find the 661 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:07.920 next one over on that side of the map. 662 00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.440 And I really like in the multiplayer how you know, 663 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.119 there's four of us and we could kind of run 664 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.079 around do our own thing. And as soon as somebody 665 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.359 finds a combat arena or something where you know, maybe 666 00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:17.839 all of us want to be there, you just open 667 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:18.359 the map. 668 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.200 You click on that person, you tell when they're right away. 669 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:21.480 So it's just very easy. 670 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.119 Yep. 671 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.680 Yeah, And I like that progression was completely separate. So 672 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.519 Dan was able to like double grapple hook around, and 673 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:31.319 he had a couple more jumps than us, and then 674 00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.000 I gained the ability to double grapple hook and there's 675 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.880 it scratches that Spider Man two itch or that Spider 676 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.880 Man itch where I never want to touch the ground. 677 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.480 I just want to keep wall riding. And if you 678 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.200 get on your hoverboard, you can go. You can wall 679 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:52.079 ride vertically completely up a surface or a silo. It's great. 680 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.880 And while we were playing through it, I couldn't help 681 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.440 but imagine and dream if we lived in a world 682 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:02.519 where we got that multiplayer Spider Man game. Yeah, just 683 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.400 because like, okay, none of this seems like it should 684 00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.519 work in Echo Point Nova and this is like definitely 685 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.839 a smaller team than Insomniac, and they're kind of figuring 686 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.759 this out. I guess we don't need to have a 687 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.960 big giant set pieces. We can just initiate an event 688 00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.799 and then that's when we dip into that combat arena 689 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.440 and you have, like the movement's so good, guys, like 690 00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:26.480 it cannot be understated if. 691 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:28.759 We're put in the same sentence as Titan Fall two. 692 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.920 Yeahah oh yeah, yeah yeah. I there's an editor in 693 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.440 the game that after we dipped out of the game, 694 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.160 I checked out for a bit. It's kind of bonkers, 695 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.400 and I feel like if the Echo Point Nova community 696 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:44.680 gets behind it and it kind of reaches some some 697 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.640 creators that are into map building, you can make some 698 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.839 very interesting obstacle courses, which which is incredibly enticing. Get 699 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.279 some get some avis. And not that I want Fortnite 700 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.160 to steal everything from every single game, but maybe that 701 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.519 will just acquire the Echo Point Nova team or something, 702 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.079 or like give me a hoverboard in Fortnite. Yeah, I 703 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.039 mean a grappling hook. I think would be like a 704 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:12.440 grapple to clouds. 705 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.559 Yeah, would that like be they want to keep a 706 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.720 Fortnite broadly approachable, so we would like complicating the movement 707 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.680 even more if be something that they would want. But say, 708 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.599 I don't know that that audience just tends to figure 709 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.240 out whatever they give to them, So I think it 710 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.400 would be fine. Yeah, that'd be cool. But in Fortnite, 711 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:29.680 why not? 712 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.880 Would you all want to see like a like a 713 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:33.799 PvP and Echo Point Nova. 714 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:42.440 No, sure, I think this game's good at something already 715 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:43.839 and they should elaborate on that. 716 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.079 I don't know. I think, you know, adding like a 717 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.160 PvP could like generate some more interest in the game 718 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.319 or whatever, just so so it picks up more steam. 719 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.039 Sure, I could see how you can just kind of 720 00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:57.319 battle Royality TV. 721 00:32:57.680 --> 00:32:59.640 Right, you could turn on PvP, but it's not like 722 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.880 a I mean like a team death team death match 723 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.759 shooter in a setup map or something like that. 724 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:06.079 Oh what would it be then? 725 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.920 Is it just like friendly fires on or I think, yeah, 726 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:10.519 you can like hunt each other down or something like that. 727 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:12.799 Yeah, it's like duels in the world of warcraft. 728 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.839 Yeah, right, that that point of reference that we all 729 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.039 get totally, totally. 730 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.039 If anything, if they don't want to do it like 731 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.920 a straight up team death match, they should do a 732 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:23.599 capture the flag in this game. 733 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.119 That's that could be fun. 734 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:27.920 To capture the flag comes back. 735 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:28.400 I missed that. 736 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.160 I miss me too. 737 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.400 Yeah, remember kind of hurt hurt my heart a little 738 00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.960 bit that people were just too wasn't really mostly about 739 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:36.000 capture the flag. 740 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.240 It was like every other kind of mo took off 741 00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:38.880 instead of that. 742 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.359 I was like, huh, you guys capture the flag in 743 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.480 real life, like at a camp or something. Yeah. 744 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.160 Yeah, Me and my friends all played it in the 745 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.599 woods with water balloons. 746 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:47.680 It was great. 747 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.039 We me and my team went on this awesome excursion 748 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.079 to get the enemy flag, and we took a roundabout 749 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.079 way back to our base, which my brother aj was 750 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.960 defending with our flag. We waded through a creak up 751 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.039 to our waist. So we got there and found out 752 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.240 that he went home with our flag because it was 753 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:04.839 dinner time. 754 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:08.719 We're very mad at it. 755 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.400 Hell, at least bring it to the enemy base. 756 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:17.280 And oh yeah, yes, you did a cart mid Screw 757 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:17.559 you guys. 758 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:18.239 I'm going home. 759 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:22.480 I speaking about going home. Uh, Jeff Grubb is going 760 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.760 home to the bank, because well, are you currently number 761 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.360 one on the second speed run level? 762 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.039 No, no, Sambo nice of the community's got me beat 763 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.000 by a little bit, and then uh, Jesse beat me 764 00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:42.079 by five one thousands of a seconds. I'm gonna get 765 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.079 back in there at some point. I've not had much time. 766 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.039 I'm like consistently now, so it's like it's it's basically 767 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.159 impossible doing anything lower than like a thirty five point two, 768 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.360 but most people are in like thirty five point three 769 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:56.519 at the very top of the leader boards. We're all 770 00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.599 in the thirty five point fours. And I'm consistently now 771 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.159 getting thirty five point six, where that was very hard 772 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:03.880 to get for a long time. And now that's like 773 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.039 just normal. But I'm not like making new ground. I'm 774 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.400 frequently now getting thirty five points thirty five point five. 775 00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.480 Now it's a very different speed run stage than the 776 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.320 last one, and I think that's great, Like this one 777 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.519 is much more maybe grindy it is. There's very small 778 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.159 improvements you can make. You kind of have to just 779 00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.199 do everything perfect, but everyone knows the big skips. And 780 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.320 then other than that, if you're doing the big skips right, 781 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.760 there's a lot of room to kind of play around 782 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.119 with how you want to approach everything, because as long 783 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:36.800 as you're taking the straightest line, if you want to 784 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:40.159 hop on a platform between here and there, you can. 785 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.639 It's fine. So everyone can kind of express themselves how 786 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:46.559 they want. Still mostly but yeah, and those big skips 787 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.039 are challenging, but once you get them down, it's like, okay, 788 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.360 I'm starting to get this. And then there's this one 789 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.559 at the end where it's not a skip. It is 790 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.119 if you hit this little half pipe and you can 791 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.639 carry the momentum off of that. That made the biggest 792 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.079 difference for me where it's okay. I realized if I 793 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.800 rode that longer it would give me they would pick 794 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.000 up speed because it's ice, and if I jumped off 795 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.239 at the right time, I would carry that momentum into 796 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.960 the end, and that's when I got my really good times. 797 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.400 It's probably what I'm missing. Like I was grinding this 798 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.280 for a bit and I think I have one thirty 799 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.880 five point six. I have a point six. But then 800 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.800 like grinding for hours, I was just getting point seven 801 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.880 point eight every time, and I was kind of getting 802 00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:26.119 a little bit ore. It's like, man, I just can 803 00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:30.119 not get past this point seven consistency. And it was 804 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.039 very consistent, but yeah, it was. It was getting three bit. 805 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.840 It was a fun level, but yeah, you probably had 806 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:38.480 me beat on this one also, Jeff. 807 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.239 Yeah, I don't like this level nearly as much as 808 00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.800 the first one, so ill that I've heard that as well. Yeah, 809 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.639 I you know, I tried rynding for a little bit 810 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.119 after we did the invitation all that day and I 811 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.000 kind of kept getting worse. So I was like, you 812 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.480 know what, I'm gonna b this level. I think I'll 813 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.960 I'll wait for two weeks from now when we do 814 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:57.880 the next invitational. 815 00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:59.079 I'm beating Dan. 816 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:00.760 What's important. 817 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.320 That's what's important. That's what's important. Speaking about grinding, I'm 818 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.880 very excited to start grinding in this. I just got 819 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.119 to remember what tier of PlayStation Plus I have or 820 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.039 just wait for Friday, because Mike Manatti, you have dipped 821 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.039 into the open beta for Monster Hunter Wilds and I 822 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.639 can't wait to start grinding in this. 823 00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:19.239 All right, how do I get into this? 824 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.679 So this is if you have PlayStation Plus whatever that is, 825 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:24.039 I bought that. 826 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:27.440 Oh yeah, that's very important. Which tier I don't have any. 827 00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:38.119 More? Like Creamium? All right, I'm sorry, that's a that's 828 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.760 a timin Eeric reference. Okay, where do I go here? 829 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:43.800 I don't know. 830 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.840 I couldn't find it. I just like, I think I 831 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.559 searched for Monster Hunter in the store or something. 832 00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:49.920 I can't thank you. 833 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:53.960 Yeah, so yeah, this is you play sort of the 834 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:55.960 start of the game. But yeah, just on plastation right now. 835 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.639 I think it comes to PC and Xbox tomorrow and 836 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.400 it will have cross Oh wait ye, so you could 837 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.199 just wait at this point if you want to. Yeah, 838 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.400 you play the opening mission thing, which is actually what 839 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.280 I played at Games Come already, and I think that's 840 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.920 a little bit weird for the demo because it's like 841 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.039 cut scene and story heavy and well, I'm better about 842 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.360 cutting the stuff than say Jeffer Dan Monster Hunter. You know, 843 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.280 it wasn't a thing I loved in world, I'll cut 844 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:26.519 relatively cutting heavy. It was I liked telling rise that 845 00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.320 was pulled back a bit, and it feels like in 846 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.519 this is like, well, this is the big Boy Console 847 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.039 PC one again, so we gotta make it real cinematic, 848 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:37.039 and I'm like, okay, the voice I think is not good. 849 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.719 The story is pretty blander. You know, some exciting moments 850 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.599 happening there, blah blah blah whatever. But then after that 851 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:44.880 you do kind of get to just explore that bigger 852 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.280 open world and that stuff is really cool and you're 853 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.360 just running around and actually hunting monsters, and it's not 854 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.840 you know, like the previous ones. You go on a mission, 855 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.039 you sort of teleport to that monster's area, you kill 856 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.119 the monster, then you teleport back. Because the map is 857 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.480 more in connected and even your camp is just part 858 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:05.280 of that map, the settlements and whatnot, it does all 859 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.679 feel a bit more seamless. It was cool to do 860 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.920 things like look at your map just see if there's 861 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.480 a monster somewhere and kind of pin the monster on 862 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.440 your map that then that starts a mission to go 863 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.000 kill the monster. You go out there, you do that, 864 00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:18.400 and then yeah, you could after you kill that monster 865 00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:19.480 go back to camp right. 866 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.639 Away, or you can maybe decide to just go kill 867 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.360 your next monster right then and there go explore and whatnot. Right, 868 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:27.400 and you know, the monster still looks so cool. There 869 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.920 are animations. Those fights are so much fun. You could 870 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.559 do some neat things here with your your your mounts 871 00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.400 which is kind of like that little dog thing we 872 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:36.800 had in the last game, but now it looks more 873 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.000 like a choco bow, which I'm a big fan of. 874 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:41.480 You could do things like you can actually have a 875 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.440 second weapon on your mount, so you know, you could 876 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.719 attack with your big sword, but if you go on 877 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.880 the mount, you can then switch. 878 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.079 Over to like the bow and arrow and use that 879 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:51.639 for a bit. 880 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:51.960 Right. 881 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.480 Is it like a permanent load out switch until you 882 00:39:54.519 --> 00:39:55.079 switch back. 883 00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:56.280 Yeah. 884 00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:57.920 Yeah, and I don't know if it's a foo letout 885 00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:59.639 switcher just that weapon, but yeah. 886 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:00.679 Just meant the weapon. 887 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.239 But yeah, yeah, exactly. 888 00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.599 You know it's cool because there are all these moments 889 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.480 where you want to get back on the mounts because 890 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.440 it's you know, you might have to chase the monster 891 00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.719 or maybe you're low on health, and it's way safer 892 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.159 to get on your mouth and then heal yourself sharpen 893 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:13.679 your weapon. 894 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.199 Then they're trying to do that on the ground. So 895 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.000 the night the fights feel very. 896 00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:19.119 Dynamic and interesting. 897 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:20.920 There's one part where I was fighting this sort of 898 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.079 salamander creature and earlier on the fight, he kind of 899 00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.360 climbed up this you know spire thing it started shooting 900 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.000 acid at me. It's like, oh, well, the next time 901 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.639 he did that, I realized that I can kind of 902 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.159 use my sort of grappling hook thing that wasn't rise 903 00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.400 and I could bring down that spire while he's on it, 904 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.559 which you know, caused him crashing down and that stunned 905 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:42.280 him for a while and was able to get a 906 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:43.119 lot of get hits in. 907 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:44.400 I'm so excited. 908 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:45.119 Off was good. 909 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.800 The game does not look great on PlayStation five, right 910 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.000 you have you know, performance mode or the fidelity mode, 911 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.840 and it's like, like, how do you want the game 912 00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:56.559 to look bad? 913 00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:57.599 Is kind of what it is. 914 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:01.360 It's not like the animation and the art design looks 915 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.760 good performance mode. It's not like you're getting steady sixty 916 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.440 phrase per second and it you know, I'm not usually 917 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.920 a resolution guy. That you all know that it looks 918 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.400 kind of rough, right, It is sort of blurry Vassillini, 919 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.400 So that's you know, And again it's not like it's 920 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:17.119 not like the trail off. 921 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:17.519 There is a. 922 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.519 Yes, but then the fidelity mode like, okay, it's sharper, 923 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.440 but it's chugging here, it's definitely chugging. 924 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.679 Unfortunately checks out though, because I think we're seeing that 925 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.960 the Ari engine is not great at more open air. 926 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:32.480 It's having a rough transition in. 927 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.599 Talking about two, I had the same thing, and I'll 928 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:37.039 tell you whut. 929 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.800 Even playing it, I'm like, oh, people think the next 930 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.000 Ziemele's gonna be up in the world, hunh, because our 931 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.280 engine is so good at doing that more kind of corridor, 932 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:50.400 more tightly you know, designed environment. And again, like the 933 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.039 gauge still feels good and maybe it does just need 934 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:54.920 a tech boost for things like the pro. I'm very 935 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:58.280 interested to see how the PC version it's going to work. 936 00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.960 I'm sure Digital Foundry will do video on all of 937 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:02.519 that stuff, so we'll get a better idea. 938 00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:03.920 And again this is a beta. 939 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.039 This game does not come out until you know, a 940 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.679 few months into next year. Maybe that stuff will be 941 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.400 improved upon but yeah, the performance at least on a 942 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.679 base PlayStation five was not amazing. 943 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.360 That I hate sucks to be here. 944 00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:20.280 Yeah, I don't like that sentence. 945 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.119 You just say it sucks the base station five, the 946 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:27.880 phrase base ps five with like apprehension in your voice. 947 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:29.400 That sucks. 948 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.880 But it's it's not has to be everything you We're 949 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.480 gonna talk about veille Guard in a little bit looks great, sure, yeah, 950 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.280 and it's very different, right because that game is not 951 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.760 very open world. That is kind of more tight knit design. 952 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.800 But boy, that game is is kind of a stunner, 953 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:45.960 and you sort of want Master Hunter to be a stunner. 954 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:49.320 And it's not other than marketing deals. You know, maybe 955 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:51.800 there's a reason why it's it's on open beta on 956 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:56.159 PlayStation first rather than being open beta everywhere. 957 00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:00.000 I mean, there's that stuff a way I looked into it, 958 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.280 and so is any tier of PlayStation plus right now, 959 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.559 and then starting Thursday night it will be open for 960 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.960 anyone PlayStation as well as Xbox or Steam through Sunday. 961 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.199 All right, well, we will fire that up on the 962 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:18.519 website on Friday, and then we'll hold. 963 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.000 An interesting one. Nicky notoriously does not like Foster Hunter. 964 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.840 Well is going away, so it's all right. If anything, 965 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.000 we'll just watch me do it. We got some plans 966 00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:32.800 for UPF. I also don't know who's in town for 967 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:33.719 ups exactly. 968 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.119 I will be like leaving it right as you guys 969 00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.639 are starting UPF, so good luck with you already be gone. 970 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.920 I think so all right, Nikki. I think that colonialism 971 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.360 is should live in video games. That's where it's okay 972 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.880 for colonialism to happen. We should go and exploit the 973 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.199 resources of other nations only in video games. 974 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.760 Not necessarily reflect dot com. 975 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.280 Yeah you give you give the man a microphone in 976 00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.920 the spotlight and he forgets how to fear the spotlight. 977 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:03.559 Okay, I smell done, sir. 978 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:06.440 That's your best one. Very good. 979 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.800 Yeah you five podcast posts to everyone that clapped and 980 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.800 smiled to themselves. I've been playing Fear the Spotlight. We 981 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.880 check this out. Was it last week grub UPF or 982 00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:20.000 last week grub bag? 983 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.280 We did a grub bag on like Thurstay or something 984 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.320 like that, played some spooky games with it. A yeah, 985 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.519 a ghost in Greblins and this is the one we 986 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.800 wrapped up with and uh so people, if you didn't 987 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.480 see the setup is spooky kids go to an abandoned 988 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.519 school and a closed school and closed school, and they 989 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.079 are gonna go get a Ouiji board and summon some 990 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:43.239 demons and it works. 991 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.679 Yes, yes, it works. And then shenanigans ensue. Your main 992 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.000 playable character gets transported to a different time, the scary 993 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.840 year of nineteen ninety one. 994 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:55.800 That's when that fire happened. 995 00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.639 That's where when Ninja Turtle's movie came out. 996 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.960 Oh god, I I continue to check out the game, 997 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:05.719 and I wound up completing it and. 998 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:08.519 It's I beat it. 999 00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.159 I it's a it's a very pleasant I think it's 1000 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.039 a it's a fun little gem and it's it's really neat. 1001 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:21.159 They really play on the tension a lot. I enjoyed 1002 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.400 horror games or scary games where there's maybe actually no 1003 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.800 combat involved. When you know you're kind of uh, you 1004 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.760 have a very limited tool set, and your tool set 1005 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.559 is just a crouch and hide or just run away. 1006 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.280 The game, I think we saw it while you were 1007 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.079 playing through a grub kind of has like a pyramid head. 1008 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:45.119 Mister Spotlight, yes, mister Spotlight, and mister Spotlight will occasionally 1009 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.960 pop up and patrol around an area, and your whole 1010 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.239 thing is to avoid being caught in the spotlight. 1011 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.360 Just one too makes it feel all right, Sorry, I'm sorry, 1012 00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:56.119 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1013 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:56.960 Uh. 1014 00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.159 The game does a really good job at slowly doling 1015 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:03.400 out the the story as as you're progressing through you 1016 00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:06.599 get transports in nineteen ninety one, as Greb said, there's 1017 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.400 a major tragedy at the school that happened in ninety one, 1018 00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.159 and you slowly learn how that tragedy may have been 1019 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.000 related to some bullying and some bad stuff happening at 1020 00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.639 the school. I think they do it really well. The 1021 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.679 game is pure puzzles, pure puzzles, y'all. 1022 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:29.239 Yeah, it was gonna like so when mister Spotlight did 1023 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.400 show up, you were like, oh man, I was kind 1024 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.400 of hoping this would just be vibes based and I 1025 00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.159 know that's what you're saying, and so what like how 1026 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:41.159 much does that complicate things? Like how intricate does the 1027 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.639 you do the encounters get? Are you just ducking, crouching, 1028 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.639 sneaking past and away from them, or do you ever 1029 00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:48.559 have to like stand toe to toe and do something 1030 00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:49.000 about them? 1031 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:53.360 You are pretty much just ducking and running away. There 1032 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:55.880 was a portion in the part that Greb played last 1033 00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.280 week where the world starts catching on fire, and that 1034 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:03.039 will occasionally happened to during some small set pieces, but 1035 00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:04.880 for the most part the game is very like quick 1036 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:09.320 and very contained, and even those Mister Spotlight segments are 1037 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:14.119 very contained to like a portion of the map where 1038 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.400 you will have to circle back to the hub that 1039 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.239 Mister Spotlight is patrolling around, but you can kind of 1040 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.760 just run run past him and continue solving the puzzles. 1041 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.320 And I think the puzzles are really well done. There 1042 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.280 was one where I was scratching my head where I 1043 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:33.679 had to like do some very very basic observational math, 1044 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:38.280 and then I got frustrated with the game of like, 1045 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:40.280 that's not this is like a. 1046 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.400 Poorly written word problem for a fourth crater. 1047 00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:45.760 It is not fair. 1048 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.519 I did not know there would be math on this. 1049 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.960 I thought it for people like it's PS one style. Yes, 1050 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:56.760 it looks like has a really good energy to it 1051 00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:58.840 where I think it's very easy to get in the 1052 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:03.559 mood of oh this is spooky and there are deeper, 1053 00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.000 deeper and maybe scarier implications to everything that you come across. 1054 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.159 So yeah, it was working for me really well, and 1055 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:11.880 I'm gonna spend more time with it. I have it 1056 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.280 on the Steam Deck now, and I'm like, I'm just 1057 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.880 gonna play this a couple evenings, play super easy on 1058 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:16.960 the Steam deck. Awesome. 1059 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:22.280 What's the superior twenty twenty four indie or game inspired 1060 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:26.679 by the PS one? This or crow Country Stroke? I 1061 00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:28.960 liked Pro Country a lot. I thought that was very impressive. 1062 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.559 I like crow Country a lot too, but I didn't 1063 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.159 quite dig the PS one graphics they were trying to 1064 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:37.199 emulate there. 1065 00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.159 Right, they were going for we mentioned at the time 1066 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:40.920 kind of Final Fantasy seven. 1067 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.280 STY seven mixed with with Resident Evil. 1068 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.800 Yes, which is a cool thing. That's cool, but yeah, 1069 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.119 it either works for you where it doesn't. Yeah. 1070 00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:53.000 Also, this is a Blumhouse game, which is Yeah. 1071 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.920 So the actual the history here is pretty interesting. When 1072 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.679 they talked about in the GB Couch, they put this 1073 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:02.159 game out on Steam already, they released it previously. Blumhouse 1074 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:06.119 found it and we're like, maybe unrelease it and we'll 1075 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.559 help you make it even better and give you more 1076 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:10.679 time and money and then you can re release it 1077 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.000 in a bigger way. And that's that's what's happened. 1078 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.519 Yeah, it was unavailable for a while. I was wondering, 1079 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:16.639 what's going on? There. Interesting. 1080 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:18.840 God, we should just start posting company and do that. 1081 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:24.519 That sounds smart. Let's go right erase your name and 1082 00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:25.360 write ours next to you. 1083 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:34.199 A polishing company, yeah, the polishing publishing. 1084 00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:40.440 Yeah, take the game down. I don't know how we'll 1085 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:42.920 make it better, but like I don't know, we'll add 1086 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:43.719 like Michael. 1087 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:48.639 Oh, did you just polish your head in the bolomatic. 1088 00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:49.960 Uh? 1089 00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:54.760 A game that is is for some reason terrifying people online. 1090 00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.760 And it's like the dumb people online for whatever. Sure 1091 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:04.039 is Drag the Veilguard. We didn't get. We haven't played 1092 00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.440 it yet, but Mike, I both understand you have played 1093 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:07.119 a portion of it. 1094 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:08.719 Yeah, not not a lot. 1095 00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.159 I'm two or three hours in, so that's it. This 1096 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.480 is not some comprehensive review or anything. 1097 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:14.400 Like that. 1098 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:16.800 Review. 1099 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:24.400 All right, no, no, no, I I am enjoying it. 1100 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:25.199 I'll tell you this. 1101 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.760 And you know, talking about Monster Hunter like not llowing. Graphically, 1102 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.079 this game is gorgeous. Nice playing it on that performance 1103 00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:37.159 mode where yeah, very smooth frame rate and still looks 1104 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.719 really stunning, awesome environments. 1105 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.519 I think the characters look nice. I feel like there's 1106 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:43.360 so much discourse. 1107 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.360 Oh, there's a lot of discourse, but there's discourse about 1108 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.000 like the stylized characters and the fortnitification, and I'm like, 1109 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.639 you just don't look that different from what I kind 1110 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.599 of remember Dragon Age characters looking like. And even like 1111 00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.280 Dragon h has done more stylised before Dragon H two 1112 00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.480 was pretty stylized. This isn't even as much is that 1113 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.599 to me? So I don't know, I don't know about 1114 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.039 all that, but very spiffy stuff here. It is kind 1115 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:11.159 of like that roller coaster ride RPG style, like even 1116 00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.920 found Fantasy sixteen was talking about that a lot. 1117 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:15.320 And again, this might be more early on. 1118 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:18.440 Maybe there's more sort of larger environments, and it feels 1119 00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:20.400 a bit more RPG right now. It is kind of 1120 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.559 like a bit more quarter smaller maps, lots of story 1121 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.960 beats and interactions, not necessarily a big city to you know, 1122 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.639 to go into, you know, you know, and some of that, 1123 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.039 like was part of my fear of like how much 1124 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.239 I'm going to enjoy this kind of game? Is how 1125 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.199 RPG is it going to be? And how action is 1126 00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:42.880 it going to be? Is it going to kind of 1127 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.679 do what foun Fhaca sixteen did and sort of look 1128 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.440 to the God of war reboots as it's north Star 1129 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:54.960 even early on, Like I definitely feel a little hesitant 1130 00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.039 about the game on that front. Was in terms of 1131 00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.679 the combat, and Inquisition had already done that, even Dragon 1132 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.199 h who had done that, and I know maybe Buyware 1133 00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:04.840 isn't going to go back to Dragon Age origin style 1134 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:06.360 combat no matter how much I like it. 1135 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.159 But yeah, when you're like fighting people in this game, 1136 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:09.079 it all feels good. 1137 00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.360 It's all competent, but it's that pretty similar like yeah, 1138 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.159 like you know, do your heavy attacking lights, attack combos 1139 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.599 and dodge when you have a thing above your head 1140 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.559 and use your your code downs, right, Yeah, it all 1141 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.000 feels good. There's a decent progression system there. I actually 1142 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.320 like the kind of skill tree and the way it works, 1143 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.639 and you can spend points to get to specific class specifications. 1144 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.679 But I know, just reading reviews, like probably the most 1145 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.280 universal complaint is out of the combat kind of gets 1146 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.639 dull after a bit, and I can already see that 1147 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.079 world happening relatively soon there. 1148 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.000 That's yeah, that's a shame. I I think, I'm The 1149 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.679 way it's landed with reviewers is kind of right around 1150 00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.519 I think where I was expecting, where it's like, yeah, 1151 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.239 this thing people like this game. It's mostly pretty good 1152 00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.800 and it just isn't perfect, and it's maybe not like 1153 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:56.719 going to be as a Game of the Year contender. 1154 00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:58.440 It's like a bolder Skate three was last year. It's 1155 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.519 kind of a step behind that. But this is like 1156 00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:04.519 good enough for the buywear bounce back, right, like this 1157 00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:08.480 is this is not a dragon Age inquisition even like 1158 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:09.360 this is better than. 1159 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:09.639 That, or. 1160 00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:13.639 It was just one game of the year, which is weird. 1161 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.800 It's definitely not Mass Effect and Drameda though, right. 1162 00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:22.000 Right, exactly, Yeah, in terms of that, absolutely this is 1163 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:23.800 a good game. 1164 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.960 Like I am enjoying it. It feels very well made. 1165 00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.039 And they're like, again the aesthetics, like even your kind 1166 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.079 of home base thing is in this kind of voighty like, oh, 1167 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.360 things are footing around sort of space that looks really cool. 1168 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.280 Even you know, the Dragonese conversation trees and you know 1169 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.400 so and so disapproved this person upproves. You have maybe 1170 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.800 different choices depending on the backstory you gave your character. 1171 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.280 I still like all that stuff. Most of my party 1172 00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:52.559 members seem interesting so far. There's a little bit of 1173 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.599 That's another talking point is like how good is the 1174 00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:58.880 writing here? I will say that to me, and I'm 1175 00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:00.840 not some dragon us for free by. I played all 1176 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.039 of them. It seems about the same as Dragon Age 1177 00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.840 writing has always been to me, and he can take 1178 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.320 from that what you will. You know, I don't think 1179 00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.559 this is any kind of amazing writing, but I think 1180 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.440 it's fine enough. It's fine enough for this kind of 1181 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.960 fantasy jaunt that we're that we're doing here. 1182 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:20.760 Yeah, I'm my appetite is starving for a mass effect 1183 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:22.920 like game, even if I have to deal with wizards 1184 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.480 and stuff. I think I've become pro wizard lately in 1185 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:28.360 pro fantasy. That's great over the last couple of years. 1186 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.519 Thank you, Mike, mostly doing part to your friendship as 1187 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:32.800 well as he's maturing. 1188 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.320 Yeah, I do better everybody with my friendship. 1189 00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:35.760 It's true. 1190 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.000 Ye, yes, that's right. 1191 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.440 Your life gets improved by becoming friends with Mike Manatti. 1192 00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:44.119 It's just a factors for sure. I am real curious, 1193 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.400 you know, because so this game, the Big Christ's plays combat, 1194 00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:50.079 and like found Phase sixteen made that big bet like, well, 1195 00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.000 we're going to do that more action based combat that's 1196 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.079 going to bring in all these new players. It sort 1197 00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:56.320 of did it and mean, well, games, it seems like 1198 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:57.519 the RPGs that do have the. 1199 00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.519 More complicated combat like boulders Gate three or you know, 1200 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.199 even out in Ring if you kind of want to 1201 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:03.960 throw that in that bucket, those are the ones that 1202 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:05.480 are actually the really big hits. 1203 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.079 It's like, man, is that maybe that's actually where they want? 1204 00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:08.719 That is now? 1205 00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:13.679 People want that. They wanted something that they can like understand, 1206 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.719 like for their whole selves into that. I mean, I 1207 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.039 think that's why kids like Pokemon so much, because like 1208 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:20.519 there's always something new you can learn about how all 1209 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:21.519 this bullshit works. 1210 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.599 There's an argument to be made there, but I always 1211 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.559 push against that a little bit because I think the 1212 00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.360 big examples we have of this in the RPG space 1213 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:35.159 have been sort of outliers a little bit. Like talking 1214 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.480 about Final Fantasy sixteen's issues, the biggest issue was that 1215 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:40.840 that was only on PS five. I think you can't 1216 00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.960 judge anything about sales based on the combat change because 1217 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.760 you look at Final look no hold on. You look 1218 00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:50.679 at Final Fantasy fifteen, that's even simpler action RPG combat, 1219 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.360 and that's hold like Gangbusters. But that was also everywhere, 1220 00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.000 and it you know, had a push behind it that 1221 00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:59.480 was also a you know, a seat one of the 1222 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.519 thing is setting that people you know, just related with 1223 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:04.440 a little bit more, you know, just like these guys 1224 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.639 going on Journey, it looked a little more lighthearted in 1225 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:09.280 our thing, and so I think people relate to that 1226 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.079 more as supposed to. Like again, sixteen is like grim 1227 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.079 dark and everything, so I think sometimes it's not always 1228 00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.440 black and white as to like should we focused on 1229 00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.599 action or turn bas per se because like balder Skate 1230 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.880 three was always going to hit with that audience because 1231 00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.239 it's the game for sickos. The sickos want it and 1232 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.599 it's delivering on that, and good on them because you. 1233 00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:31.480 Know, you're more now than ever, because it really it 1234 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:32.800 seems that's why that. 1235 00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:36.440 Three is getting bigger and bigger than bigger, because snowballing, 1236 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:37.840 it's word of mouth than our thing, you know. 1237 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.440 Interestingly enough, I feel like the portion of my friends 1238 00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.719 that enjoy games like the sims have really picked up 1239 00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.119 and it started to enjoy Balder's Gate three. So I 1240 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.039 wonder where the correlation is there. 1241 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.599 Top down, Yeah, you got your characters through something, yes, yeah, 1242 00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.159 they give you give your room to role play. 1243 00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.320 Yeah yeah, Grob was onto something with the depth there. 1244 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.320 I just think that it's you know, I don't think 1245 00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.079 it's always as simple as specifically. 1246 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.280 It's not black and white. It's definitely not just black 1247 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:07.639 and white. 1248 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.000 Yeah, there's a conversation that we had there, But I 1249 00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:12.440 just I just hope fewer people just like immediately jump 1250 00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:13.760 to like, well, if we make it simpler, that it 1251 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:14.760 will appeal to more people. 1252 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:16.599 Right. I think that's that's correct. 1253 00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:18.320 That's the other side of the argument, right. It's like 1254 00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.239 the action combat was not some silver bullet that solved 1255 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.800 your problems for Final Fantasy, So you need to do 1256 00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:26.519 if that, if you want to keep doing that, you're 1257 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:28.239 gonna need to do that on top of making some 1258 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.960 other changes or going back to ground in some other areas. 1259 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:33.679 But I mean, I think the move forward Final Fantasy 1260 00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.079 going like if that's what the conversation we're having is, 1261 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.159 it'll be more of an RPG, be more do what 1262 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:40.239 persona is doing. 1263 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:43.880 Like Mike has said exactly. Yeah, like Atlas RPGs are 1264 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.039 still very traditional dungeon crawling, term based stuff, and they're 1265 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.679 getting even bigger. But that's because they're getting bigger because 1266 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:51.920 people like anime more and more nowadays. You know that 1267 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.800 younger generations getting older because there's more people to sell to. 1268 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.679 I mean, it's finally broke through a lot more seems 1269 00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.119 like when it went turn based. Actually so I don't know. 1270 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:03.599 I don't think turn base is this dirty word that 1271 00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:05.039 some publishers treated as. 1272 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:09.719 A speaking about turn based. I was going to save 1273 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.719 this for the end, but it's okay. Dan's not here. 1274 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:17.159 My metaphor check in, boys, gents, people listening at home. 1275 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.280 I completed this game. Oh and I am now doing 1276 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.920 like the mental calculus of either I. I wait for 1277 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:27.519 these two and maybe some more friends to finish the 1278 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.639 game and we'll have ourselves a little spoiler cast or 1279 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.679 I put in my back pocket and slowly start crafting 1280 00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.519 a Google slides presentation as to why I think this 1281 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.840 maybe one of my favorite games of all time. Now, 1282 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.559 and you know, if you if you listen to the 1283 00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.800 podcast in the Game of the Year discussions, you know 1284 00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.119 that some of the games that really appeal to me 1285 00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:58.159 are like the whole found family format and you and 1286 00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:02.280 your homies banded together and like a strong story told 1287 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:02.599 through that. 1288 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.480 Even though you didn't understand that that happened to Foul 1289 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.840 Fantasy remake, but you know, go on, go on, It's. 1290 00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:09.480 I just cause kind of boring. 1291 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:14.039 Guys, jan I will fist fight you in December, all right, 1292 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.360 moving on, all right, all right, I'll start training to 1293 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:17.719 the just punch my face. 1294 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:18.599 I'll be the whipping boy. 1295 00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:23.719 Ever wants to punch Jeff, I'll do it too. 1296 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.039 Yeah that's fair, I get it. 1297 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.599 But yeah, this really reminds me of like the story 1298 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.280 beats from like A Thirteen Sentinels or like a Gardens 1299 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:33.280 of the Galaxy, where like, and I think this is 1300 00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:35.679 Atlas firing off on all cylinders, you know, Like I've 1301 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.559 loved all of the Persona games, even the portions of 1302 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.000 three that I've played, where uh, you know, the social 1303 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:44.760 links are a very important game. But because you have 1304 00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.840 less social links in this game for some reason, not 1305 00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:53.199 for some reason, it feels like it matters more and 1306 00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.079 it's more focused. And I think the characters that they've 1307 00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:02.239 created for metaphor absolutely fucking sing. 1308 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:04.840 Yes, it's one of the best, and you know, I'm 1309 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:08.119 thirty hours in. It's it's one of the best RPG 1310 01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.920 parties I've ever seen, just so good. 1311 01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:11.800 It's so likeable. 1312 01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:14.679 Yeah, those social links, like I've gone really deep into 1313 01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:16.480 some of them, and I you know, like the social 1314 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.679 systems of the persona games. Yeah, these social links stories 1315 01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.880 just absolutely do laps generally around them, you know, the 1316 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:24.480 prisona games. 1317 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:26.440 They usually have like a few that are. 1318 01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:30.039 Like weird, pervy ones or just dumb ones. Right, It's like, no, 1319 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:33.960 this is this is all killer, no filler, all this 1320 01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:35.280 shitfin dude. 1321 01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.559 Yeah, I'm a little I'm still a little bit further 1322 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.280 and Mike, you's starting to ketch up to me. I'm like, 1323 01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:44.480 just I have forty hours. Heismey's story almost be breaking 1324 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:45.760 down tears multiple times. 1325 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:47.480 Oh, Jeff would love heis Bay. Jeff, I don't. I 1326 01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:50.199 don't know about anything else you would love this character. 1327 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:51.079 Heis Bay. 1328 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:55.519 He's a sad dad but amazing but like good. 1329 01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.880 He has the greatest reason in the world to be 1330 01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:00.360 a said, yeah, so he's so. 1331 01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:03.960 Yeah, then I'll start playing again. 1332 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.760 And he's a bad person, not bad person a bat 1333 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.719 like yeah with wings. I'm glad you clarified. I love 1334 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.480 bad people, oh man, Like for folks that like want 1335 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:18.239 a taste, right and to feel like what one of 1336 01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.360 these characters is Heisme. I've seen a couple of people 1337 01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:23.760 say this online. But he is like the uncle irow 1338 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.960 of the team. If you're familiar with Avatar the Last Airbender, 1339 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.719 heis may kind of fills that old veteran role of like, 1340 01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:34.039 I've seen some shit and I've actually like grown up 1341 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:36.440 and learned to reflect on said shit, and I'm gonna 1342 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:39.440 help guide you, so, you know, as I process this, 1343 01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:42.559 you can also process this. So I am raising a 1344 01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:44.800 stronger person. Yeah, because I'm a sad father. 1345 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.800 He is learning late in life how to cope with 1346 01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.239 his mistakes and how to grow as a person, even 1347 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:54.960 as like a grown ass adult, while also mentoring these 1348 01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:58.000 this you know party that's you know, all in their 1349 01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.119 late teens early twenties for the most part, and just 1350 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:03.719 trying to be a role model while also bettering himself. 1351 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:04.360 It's so good. 1352 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.280 Maybe Atlas games are better when there's more adults in 1353 01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:12.119 your party. I'm kind of tired of teenagers. And even 1354 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:14.400 the main character is a teenager, but everyone else is 1355 01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.079 an adult and he doesn't act like a young teenager. 1356 01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.400 I'm like, this is even the MC is like an 1357 01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:24.239 older adult, you know, sorry, an older teenager young adult. 1358 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.039 So he's not like some high school and he doesn't 1359 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:27.719 come across like that. 1360 01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:29.679 Speaking on the characters, I think it was high on 1361 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:31.880 was said in our discussion of Hey, when you don't 1362 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.880 have to have one character for every you know, tarot 1363 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.320 card in the deck, Huh, you can you can kind 1364 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:38.840 of just make a character you want to make it 1365 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.440 not to worry about anything characters. 1366 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.360 If we don't have the socialik about the guy who's 1367 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.880 fat and really likes food and that's his whole thing. 1368 01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:52.800 That's do this so I can make my personas. And 1369 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.519 you know, it's it's funny that, like the big thing 1370 01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:57.559 behind this game is that it's dealing with an election, 1371 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.039 and that doesn't give me like it's. 1372 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.519 It's a weird game to play in twenty twenty four. Man, yes, 1373 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:04.559 it's a fucking game to play. 1374 01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.840 I hate that it is giving me an existential crisis 1375 01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.880 as I'm looking at the real world. At the same time, 1376 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:12.679 I'm like, oh man, it's. 1377 01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:14.119 Like election. 1378 01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:16.840 Heard. 1379 01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:20.480 But I you know, to echo your point Sean and Mike, 1380 01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.920 I think I think this is where I want Atlas 1381 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.679 to move forwards to where I do love and I 1382 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.920 have loved the high school setting for so long now, 1383 01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.400 but I think there's so much more depth that you 1384 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:37.039 can reach with adult characters. And I think that's what 1385 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.719 like a Dragon did so well this year. Is that, 1386 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:41.880 like you know, with each Von and the whole gang, 1387 01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:45.079 it's like these are like people in their like mid 1388 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.159 to late thirties, early forties that are. 1389 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.599 Problems so refreshing about Yeah. 1390 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:54.039 Exactly right, and like, you know, there's parts of me 1391 01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:57.760 that feel creepy sometimes when I do play the Persona 1392 01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.280 games and I am building such a strong attachment to 1393 01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:03.360 some of these characters, and it's like, like you really 1394 01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:06.159 army of children, right, and I do not you know 1395 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:08.000 of some people where there's like talking, Oh, there's no 1396 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:08.880 romancing this game. 1397 01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.079 I do not miss it at all. And I think, yeah, 1398 01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:11.920 maybe we don't need that. 1399 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:14.599 Yeah, I thought I would because they're introducing some really 1400 01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:17.639 cool characters where it's like, you know, even even like 1401 01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:20.000 the best friend, I'm like, can dudes be bros? You know, 1402 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.119 like finally, but no you can't. 1403 01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:25.360 I'm like all of them being very very close in 1404 01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:27.960 like annymtic way is actually good enough. 1405 01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:32.119 Yeah, And I think maybe it's Atlas growing up a 1406 01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:34.719 little bit and some of the younger developers come in 1407 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.559 and ironically the younger people getting better at telling the 1408 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:41.119 mature storytelling and pushing some of the older pervy guys. 1409 01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:43.519 Open there out is starting to get a little bit 1410 01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.880 better for Atlas as a whole, and I think that reflects. 1411 01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:50.320 And also this is definitely going to come up when 1412 01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.840 we if we have a best style category. But I 1413 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:55.800 think this is one of those games that does style 1414 01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:00.440 in fucking spades. I never get tired of stunning an 1415 01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:06.159 enemy and jumping into combat always hits peril. So good. 1416 01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:08.440 Oh and I love how I do any of your 1417 01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:10.639 party members. So it's like I get excited when it 1418 01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:12.360 ties me these angry little bat eyes. 1419 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:13.000 Like yeah, let's go. 1420 01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.159 We keep going about this game because it's going to 1421 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.320 be all over a Game of Year discussions. It does 1422 01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.440 so many things so freaking well. 1423 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:29.280 So yeah, freaking Sega having an incredible year, right even generation. 1424 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:31.280 Yeah, it's a good game. 1425 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.360 That's so like, I'm trying to do this by memory. 1426 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.079 What do you have? They have infinite wealth, they have 1427 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:39.800 Person of three reload, they by extension published Unicorn Overlord, 1428 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:44.280 they have Metaphor, they have sonic generations like oh. 1429 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:47.119 Yeah, total War game in there somewhere. 1430 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:49.800 Yeah, And I don't know if you guys think Jeff Sawid, 1431 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:51.280 I don't know if you guys saw the league for 1432 01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:52.400 that Shanobe. 1433 01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:59.039 Game over that Lizards Baby. Yeah, Lizard Kids is a 1434 01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:00.400 fantastic I can't wait. 1435 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:09.039 Yeah, so Metaphor, Yeah, good year for Sega, Good year 1436 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:15.400 for Metaphor. We fantasio. Jesus Christ. If you are feeling 1437 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.800 if you at home or feeling the rush or the 1438 01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.320 crunch time of game of the year and you want 1439 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:24.199 to try and fit in one more gigantic RPG, and 1440 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.119 maybe dragon Age is not your flavor of RPG that 1441 01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:32.519 you prefer wholeheartedly, you need to check out Metaphor or 1442 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.079 maybe save it for the winter break and savor it then. 1443 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:40.840 But like Jesus Age Christ, it is. It feels like 1444 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:42.559 a cannon event playing this game. 1445 01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:47.960 What was your final time on your clock? So I did. 1446 01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:51.159 I did the thing where I would fall asleep playing 1447 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:56.440 the game, so it was like a pause screen and 1448 01:06:57.480 --> 01:06:59.719 the five going to sleep. So I think it added 1449 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:02.920 maybe like in a few hours, yeah, a couple hours. 1450 01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:07.679 And also I was taking my time, especially because you 1451 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:12.519 know we had done the discussion cast review cast. I 1452 01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:15.039 think I clocked in like seventy ish hours. 1453 01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:18.480 Okay, too bad for one of these, because yeah, that's 1454 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:20.800 what I'm saying. I got thirty hours. I was like, Okay, 1455 01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:22.679 it doesn't feel like I'm only a third of the 1456 01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:25.519 way through this game, Like I'm yeah, right, Like I 1457 01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:27.920 feel like I'm deepish and like you know, a lot 1458 01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:30.360 of my social links are kind of filling up. 1459 01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:33.400 My virtues are all like getting pretty high. 1460 01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.000 On my c like ten hours a day. I can 1461 01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:36.800 have this beat in a week. 1462 01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:40.119 That's all you have to think about it, like, yeah, grub, Yeah, 1463 01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:42.360 I noticed you haven't spoken on any of this. You 1464 01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:43.280 haven't gotten any farther. 1465 01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.119 No, No, I have put it aside for spending time 1466 01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.719 with Astro and a secret game that I'm not looking Yeah. 1467 01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.360 There's a million things to play right now. That's why 1468 01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:52.400 I have a lot, right. 1469 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.239 We still have Brothership, we still have the Dragon Quest 1470 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:59.239 three HDT I'm looking forward to, and yeah, Dragon Age 1471 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.079 coming out and Halloween. So it is hard. 1472 01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:03.960 But if you ask to be like, hey, which RPG 1473 01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:06.159 do you think is the one to play? If I 1474 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:07.880 only a fan for one, I would probably say Metal 1475 01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:08.199 this is. 1476 01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:10.599 The one, and yeah it's either this or if no, well, 1477 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:11.679 depending on your taste. 1478 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah definitely yeah, infinite yeah, yeah, I mean 1479 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:16.279 infinite wealth. I was going to say, is a more 1480 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:20.520 active battle uh system, but like even this can like 1481 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:24.239 you can speed through and sometimes it feels like turbo mode. 1482 01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:25.680 It feels like you're playing a rhythm game. But it's 1483 01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:27.880 turn that's right, yea turboh mode. 1484 01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.720 Yeah, just real quick, the secret game is the Nintendo 1485 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.680 play test. Nintendo, please just let us talk about it, 1486 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:35.359 to talk. 1487 01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:41.520 About it so bad, so much weird looking from everything crazy. 1488 01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:44.239 It's I still don't really understand what I'm doing, but 1489 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.000 I'm having a pretty good time. That's all I say. 1490 01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:49.560 Uh, speaking about having a good time, having a ball, 1491 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:51.840 don't stop, you know, if you want to have a 1492 01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:53.359 good time, just give Mitch a call. 1493 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:55.640 Sorry, Jen, And just like. 1494 01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.880 You should have done the third mister Spotlight joke that 1495 01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:01.880 would see be holded back? Ye you did, Like you 1496 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.640 should have just done that one and it would really 1497 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:04.479 hit Yep. 1498 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:10.319 All right, I feel like I'm night Trap, Sean behind you. 1499 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:11.840 Night Trap. 1500 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:13.439 I'll put the music in the audio version. 1501 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:14.000 Yeah. 1502 01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:17.039 Speaking of good games, Jan, this is not one of them. 1503 01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:22.439 They don't appreciate night Trap. 1504 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.880 So yeah, I h night Trap was my spooky Halloween 1505 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:30.079 game this week with my friends outside of called Dowey Zombies. 1506 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.439 It has become our annual tradition, and we you know, 1507 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.439 we treat it like watching like a B horror movie, 1508 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:40.079 you know, like a crappy one that you mystery science 1509 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:43.479 theater or whatever. We have been trying to finish the 1510 01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:46.359 game for many years without using a guide, which is 1511 01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:49.439 just yeah. Initially we were doing the Sega CD version, 1512 01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:53.760 which sucks because if anyone doesn't actually know what night 1513 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.199 Trap is, you are like a basically a SWAT team 1514 01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:01.079 member or something. Five nights, Yeah, it is some five 1515 01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:04.479 nights as Freddy's. That's where that kind of inspiration. You're 1516 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:07.199 looking at a monitor. You need to like activate stuff 1517 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:11.239 in order to protect this uh you know these girls 1518 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.399 are having a sleepover problem mackinson way, but you need 1519 01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.880 to activate the traps in this swap members do their vampire. 1520 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.920 So this vampire is his house and then like the 1521 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:26.159 vampire daughter invites all of her friends over. 1522 01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:27.359 The cameras at the house. 1523 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:33.399 Though, because the vampire wants to trap innocent people in 1524 01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.840 his house who sucked their blood. You know, it's a 1525 01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:40.319 messed up game. It's really dumb, really stupid historic if 1526 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:43.319 you know the context, because the Senate it. 1527 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:49.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, but can we get that shirt. Lieberman 1528 01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:50.279 hates me. 1529 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:54.239 I'd hear that, but yeah, I know, for the past 1530 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.640 few years we've just been sort of firing up, laughing 1531 01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:00.439 at it. And we eventually switched to the Anniversary because 1532 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:03.880 they're in the original you couldn't see the other cameras 1533 01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:06.479 unless you switch to them, so you had no idea 1534 01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:10.279 when like, you know, the the girls or the guys 1535 01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.159 at the party were like going to get attacked by 1536 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:15.159 one of the enemies, and so they fixed that in 1537 01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:17.840 the anniversary edition. They cleaned up. It's actually really cool 1538 01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:22.640 restoration project. The game's a little buggy, but it's incredbi 1539 01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.279 how he transferred all the original footage from the original 1540 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:29.279 archives and everything that was a I'm trying to think 1541 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.199 of who did that. I know Limit Run had hand 1542 01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:34.000 in it. But it's a cool project. And so yeah, 1543 01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:37.119 just that's our that has become our annual tradition. We 1544 01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:41.239 finally finished it last year and then this year they're like, well, 1545 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:42.560 we gotta do a night Trap run. You know, it's 1546 01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.920 tradition at this point. So my friend has a physical 1547 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.279 notebook that he took. He jotted down the times and 1548 01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.840 the rooms, and so we were going through and it's like, 1549 01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:54.680 oh there's one in the hallway. Oh, there's gonna be 1550 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.479 one outside, and so yeah, we we ran through it. 1551 01:11:57.560 --> 01:11:59.439 We listened to them saying the night Trap song. We 1552 01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:01.920 watched the end and you know, decide whether or not 1553 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:04.439 we trapped Dana Plato in the glass box as well. 1554 01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.920 But yeah, it's uh, it's a fun, dumb time. 1555 01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:10.279 I don't think I've ever played a second of Night Trips. 1556 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.319 Really well at that moment, didn't you get that sega to? 1557 01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:15.399 And I did not play. 1558 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.680 I played Sewer Shark just like back in actual on the. 1559 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:21.079 Right because it's like it's got a lot of the 1560 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:21.920 sagacity games. 1561 01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:26.560 I'm not sure now, but yeah, serious if it was. 1562 01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:30.640 Rights issues but yeah, okay, yeah, maybe maybe it. 1563 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:34.079 Was Mike try Trap Trap. 1564 01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:37.560 I can't emphasize this enough though. It's a bad game, 1565 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:40.479 to be clear, played to make fun of it, but 1566 01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:44.279 it sounds like a fun bad game though. Yeah, if 1567 01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:46.720 you're you know, grab a beer and like, you know, 1568 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:48.840 we we get on a discord call every year and 1569 01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:53.439 then someone played around of course. Oh yeah, but yeah, 1570 01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:55.119 you know, Halloween. 1571 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:58.920 Tradition fantastic, fantastic, and we're going to go celebrate one 1572 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.520 of our traditions, which is taking a quick, pricky break 1573 01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:04.520 before talking about the news. We'll see you on the 1574 01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:06.319 other side, folks. He's the when I call him it's 1575 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:08.760 a spotlight. He's when it makes you feel all right, 1576 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.479 news breaking news. I've popped open into my secret stash 1577 01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.119 that I've pilfered from the SF fandom office. 1578 01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.000 Wait, what the hell, Jan, drink's caffeine. That's not coffee? 1579 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:21.560 What is this? 1580 01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:24.560 This is the only other vice I have when it 1581 01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:28.319 comes to caffeine. Red Bull, It's a sugar free red Bull. 1582 01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:29.960 There we go. 1583 01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:36.039 I think my heart would explode if I had a 1584 01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:36.760 red Bull. 1585 01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:39.720 You think, knowing the way you reacted to one cup 1586 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:40.800 of coffee that one time. 1587 01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:45.600 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, caffeine is definitely And listen, I'm 1588 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.239 not gonna speak for Jance. I'll just speak for myself 1589 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.800 self medication I am. I'm like definitely, Like ooh, my 1590 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:52.720 brain just needs this and it doesn't help. It just 1591 01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.680 makes me vibrate a little bit. But it's I think 1592 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:56.520 it's better than without having caffeine. 1593 01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:02.239 Yeah. Uh, I want is a Catholic season where you 1594 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.520 give something up for forty days, forty nights. I gave 1595 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:08.640 up caffeine and coffee. No one wanted to be friends 1596 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:08.880 with me. 1597 01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:09.680 You're not. 1598 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:13.760 It turns out I was very irritable, especially I've developed 1599 01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:16.119 what some would say a dependency. 1600 01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:17.119 Thought. 1601 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.840 You know, you can just replace all that with sudo 1602 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:22.680 fed it gets do the same thing. I'll sell you 1603 01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:23.079 something it. 1604 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:23.880 Was even healthier. 1605 01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:26.119 Yeah, there's a race and they sell it over there. 1606 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.239 Meth use benado. Just to go to sleep every night 1607 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:33.039 and start seeing this sleep. That's a bad idea because 1608 01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:37.239 doing that, I know. I was like, don't ha ha ha. 1609 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:38.640 I was like, it's not funny. 1610 01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:42.119 Is like a first generation anti histamine. They're like, please, 1611 01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:43.760 don't even use that anymore. 1612 01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:49.960 No, but Coliner's in the chat. How good did that 1613 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:54.920 caffeine hit on day forty one? Folks? It hits so perfectly. 1614 01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.920 I decided to have a five hour energy extra strength. 1615 01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.159 Oh yeah, near like a mid term or final go 1616 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:08.000 the distance from Hercules kicked in on my radio. Oh 1617 01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:10.119 don't make me seeing the whole thing. I will I won't, 1618 01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.279 I won't. I saw callers that I saw for the 1619 01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.560 first time in that moment, and then I think I 1620 01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:20.239 started crying. I think I crying. Practice land in a while, 1621 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:22.119 but I did kind of miss that day forty one, 1622 01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:23.920 like doing the thing that I gave up. 1623 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:27.239 Except chocolate. You don't get practice, you just give it up, right. 1624 01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:29.800 Well, Okay, it's funny. 1625 01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:35.520 Chocolate one time, and then like never liked chocolate again 1626 01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.520 since then though, So it could be a dangerous game, 1627 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:39.600 like I just gave off my taste for chocolate. Yeah, 1628 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:42.479 unfortunately that didn't happen with like when I did it 1629 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:43.279 for beer or so. 1630 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:46.800 Folks. The news. 1631 01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:55.760 Jeff Grubb music. This is Jeff Grubb with a newses. 1632 01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:00.560 Well, everybody, I have news for you. Shout outs to 1633 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:04.159 VGC and everywhere else where. I sourced the news from 1634 01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:09.199 News first story here. Zeno Blake Chronicles X definitive edition 1635 01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:13.760 has been confirmed again. Who needs switch to when you 1636 01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:17.239 have this? March twentieth, twenty twenty five. This game originally 1637 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.560 came out for the WU in twenty fifteen. It is 1638 01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:23.760 basically getting the last ship out of Vietnam to like 1639 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.760 get ported to the switch here, and so this is 1640 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.600 like the last like obvious port that should have came 1641 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:32.199 from the WU. 1642 01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:35.000 Yeah, now you have like your questionable ones, like I 1643 01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:38.640 guess you could do Starfug Zero or Kirby and the 1644 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:40.239 Rainbow Curse made. 1645 01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:42.000 Two star fucks game rules. 1646 01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.600 I like you. I'm also a starfug zero defender. I 1647 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:46.520 think that they should. But it's like the one I said, 1648 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:51.680 the last obvious one. Yeah, and I've never played it, 1649 01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:55.079 but it's uh, you know, it's Monolith. It's the open 1650 01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.119 world kind of actionally got here's what I remember. There's 1651 01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.880 a guy that turns into like a mech that can 1652 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:02.920 turn into like a vehicle, and then he turns back 1653 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:04.560 into a man and goes flying off a cliff. 1654 01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:06.359 My understanding is that this is the one that it's 1655 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:10.000 it's mechs and it's more open world design. And there's 1656 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:11.560 like a lot of people who really like this one 1657 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:13.760 and other people who really don't like this one. I'm 1658 01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:17.000 kind of hoping maybe it's like less story driven in 1659 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.640 a way I might enjoy, and that's why, like some 1660 01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:22.319 of the other Zeno Blaite sickles aren't as into it. 1661 01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:25.720 Yeah, because that's much. I like this, Yeah much. I 1662 01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:26.279 like those games. 1663 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:28.800 I think sometimes, well, they definitely all drag on, they're 1664 01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:30.439 definitely all longer than they need to be in the 1665 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.439 combat usually gets stale after a point, but there's a 1666 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:35.439 lot to like about them. I like Zeno Blay three 1667 01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:37.359 a lot. I haven't checked out a moment of this 1668 01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.239 one before. I'm not shocked we got here because this 1669 01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.760 entire switch generation Monoloth has been model has been in 1670 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:47.600 a cycle right where it was POB two, then uh 1671 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:51.680 the DLC for that, then Remester one, now Zeno Blate three, 1672 01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:54.560 DLC for that, now Remester X, right, so they kind 1673 01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:56.640 of have they kind of like a perfect road map 1674 01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:59.439 for basically this entire console, and we do know. 1675 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.840 Monolith while it's also upgrading their technology so they could 1676 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:05.000 be ready to work on the follow ups to all 1677 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:07.640 these games and also help out with probably future Zelda's 1678 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:10.399 on the switch to So it's like this sets that 1679 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:12.920 up as well because they're basically at the end of 1680 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.680 that cycle until they make the next new Zeno Blade game, 1681 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:18.800 but that will take some time. As I supposed to get. 1682 01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:21.720 Switched to news today instead of this what happened, right, So. 1683 01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:27.079 Yeah, there's definitely been a lot of rumors, rumor mongering, 1684 01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:31.439 people like Stern shit. There was a countdown website that 1685 01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:33.960 said is that countdown up? By the way, did it 1686 01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:37.199 like actually expire? It went viral a little bit. People 1687 01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:39.239 thought us Switched To could get announced this week. 1688 01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:41.560 Yes for this, maybe this was the countdown. 1689 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.600 Most most of the reasoning came down to, there is 1690 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:48.640 going to be a Nintendo investor relations meeting. They're going 1691 01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:53.439 to do their quarterly report here pretty soon, and they're like, oh, well, 1692 01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:55.159 so when they're probably gonna want to talk about it 1693 01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:56.640 there and so to talk about it there. They'll have 1694 01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.920 some small video beforehand, and it's happening this week. In fact, 1695 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.399 it's happening today as we're recording this. We haven't seen anything, 1696 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:07.239 you know. I love to get caught up in the hype. 1697 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.760 I'm like, yeah, maybe sure, But like every time we 1698 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.239 like actually have the conversation, I think we come back 1699 01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:15.319 to why would they do that before Brothership is out? 1700 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:17.800 I mean, let's just get on the other side of Brothership. 1701 01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:20.840 At least I get Donkey Kong, even Zeno, Blake Chronicles 1702 01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:24.399 X Okay those ones. Maybe you could be like, yeah, 1703 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:26.239 switch to is come and play those on there or whatever. 1704 01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:29.680 Brotherships selling switches this holiday. I kind of feel like, 1705 01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:31.079 why wouldn't they wait until after? 1706 01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:33.600 I think it was kitt and christ who said, you know, 1707 01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:35.880 and they would know that we're a Nintendo, Like, Nintendo's 1708 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:38.520 not gonna announce this thing like until election stuff has 1709 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:42.119 blown over, and uh boy, let's take. 1710 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:46.399 A long time to blow over one on November sixth 1711 01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:47.159 and everyone get big. 1712 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:51.039 Well, that's that, and that's that feels like the kind 1713 01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:52.560 of thang where it's like, if it wasn't Kitt and 1714 01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:54.439 christ are saying that no one would believe that, believe 1715 01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:57.039 that reasoning. But of course Nintendo thinks that way. They 1716 01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:00.279 are the most conservative like company of like we are 1717 01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:01.399 worried about how or. 1718 01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:04.880 What was the news? 1719 01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:07.000 What was the thing that they delayed because the queen 1720 01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:09.640 died like that, Yeah, and I. 1721 01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:13.880 Reported that and I said that, and everyone was like, Jeff, 1722 01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:16.079 you're a liar and you're just trying to say face 1723 01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:17.640 because you said this was going to happen then. And 1724 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:19.319 it's like once they saw it was called Tears of 1725 01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:24.319 the Kingdom, everyone's like and it's like, yeah, and cares 1726 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:28.159 about that stuff in a deeply deep and sometimes weird way, 1727 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:30.079 and so that makes a lot of sense. 1728 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:33.520 Well, like you sometimes jokingly say, Jeff, Nintendo of America 1729 01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:36.119 is a law firm, and so like when talking about 1730 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.439 the branches of Nintendo, and thinking about like how they're 1731 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:41.920 all working together to no something. Obviously the call comes 1732 01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.800 down from like the big office in Japan, but all 1733 01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:47.039 together they are working together to figure out, oh, when 1734 01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:49.039 is the best time to release all this? And they 1735 01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:51.560 do strategically do that all companies. 1736 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:55.399 And NCL Nintendo Company Limited in Japan would be aware 1737 01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:57.760 of like the American election and stuff like that, and 1738 01:20:57.800 --> 01:20:59.560 they would they would factor all that. 1739 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:04.039 Don't want sometimes Yeah, yes, definitely, I'm kind of curious 1740 01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:07.199 at this point. Do y'all ever just get tired of 1741 01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:11.039 the anticipation, like as like totally people are like any 1742 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:13.039 day now, switch dude, this is the big ones, like 1743 01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:15.880 we know it exists, It's gonna again. 1744 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:22.199 It's the same weariness that I've started to develop when 1745 01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:26.720 we were talking about Activision buying or Xbox buying Activision 1746 01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:29.359 for sure. Yeah, and like that just got drawn out 1747 01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:32.279 for what felt like twelve years of my life. Even 1748 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.319 though that we'll get to that lack of year breaking Yeah, 1749 01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:36.119 sorry breaking. 1750 01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:41.920 Yeah, I'm my default mode, Sean is uh, this will 1751 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:43.840 happen when it happens, right, like when I'm just out 1752 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.399 there living my life, when I'm playing games, when I'm 1753 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:48.680 spending time with my family. I am not like walking 1754 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.159 around like, oh, the switch to could happen in any minute. 1755 01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:53.319 When I'm putting together the news for Game Best Mornings, 1756 01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:55.479 It's like, yeah, that's that's fun to talk about whatever. 1757 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:57.800 It's no harm. I know some people get frustrated by it, 1758 01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.039 but it gives us something happen conversation. 1759 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:02.119 On, and it is it's new. 1760 01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:04.439 We're like we're in that boat. Yeah, it's like it's 1761 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:07.000 worth talking about. But day to day I find it 1762 01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:10.319 much easier, just like to accept that Nintendo is at 1763 01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:13.079 the very least difficult to parse, Like you can't just 1764 01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.079 go to the to the pattern of what happened last 1765 01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:17.279 time that was several several years ago in a completely 1766 01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:21.039 different world. And so yeah, I think it's best to 1767 01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:24.680 just not anticipate enjoy the games. I'm looking forward to Brothership. 1768 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:26.359 That's where I'm at and I'm just going to keep 1769 01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:26.600 be in there. 1770 01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:28.199 Yeah, I'm ready to visit Concordia. 1771 01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:33.880 Yes, speaking of concord Of that was a lob. Yeah, 1772 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:38.319 well done, sir, Jason Triert. Were just reported on Twitter 1773 01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:43.960 that Sony is shutting shutting down Firewalk Studios, the makers 1774 01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:49.359 of the recent shooter Concord, which, yeah, this kind of 1775 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:52.640 this is not too surprising. So Concord came out, got 1776 01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:56.319 pulled from sales because it sold something like twenty five 1777 01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:01.560 thousand copies. It was disastrous and it's launch. There was 1778 01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:04.279 early word that they would you know, the early word 1779 01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:06.239 was from a blog post of them explaining them they 1780 01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:08.239 were taking it down, saying we'll try to figure out 1781 01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:10.560 what to do with this going forward. I think at 1782 01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.800 the time everyone's like, Okay, yeah, that try something, but 1783 01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:15.840 I don't think it'll ever be Concord again, and that 1784 01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:18.720 whatever it will be like re used assets in something new. 1785 01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:21.840 It sounds like that will not be happening from Firewalks 1786 01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:25.800 Studios because the studio is shutting down. Now does that 1787 01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:28.079 mean that everyone at that studio is losing their job? 1788 01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:31.239 This is breaking news from Jason, So we don't know 1789 01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:34.159 exactly the details. Are some people going to other studios 1790 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.560 or is it everyone is just cut loose? We don't know, 1791 01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:41.920 but on its face, Firewalk is done. Concord even more 1792 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.159 done than it was before. It sounds like, and again 1793 01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:45.119 not too surprising. 1794 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:49.279 It stinks because it feels like this team was kind 1795 01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:53.239 of uh just Sabotaged Sabage. 1796 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:56.239 They walked up to a buzzsaw of like, just like, 1797 01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:59.119 you make a game as good as you can and 1798 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.520 you believe it, and sure not everything is like are 1799 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:04.439 these characters as appealing as they could be? It's like, 1800 01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:06.399 I don't know, but if something look pretty cool and 1801 01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:08.640 you put it out like you hope it finds its audience. 1802 01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:11.479 And the audience was just the buzz saw was the 1803 01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:14.279 audience was so ready to dismiss this game because they 1804 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:16.479 just didn't even want to pay attention to it. They 1805 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.399 didn't want to care, and you could you can't participate. 1806 01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.840 You can't anticipate that when you start making this game 1807 01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.399 forever ago. I know there risk reports it was eight 1808 01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:27.600 nine years in development, but even if, like if the 1809 01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:28.760 active development was the. 1810 01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:31.119 Last four years, right, that's more accurate from. 1811 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:35.640 What Yeah, even you can't anticipate even in that timeframe, 1812 01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:38.000 what people are gonna want, you know, four years from now. 1813 01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.640 So yeah, I really feel bad for everybody that works. 1814 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:43.720 I still want to really talk to the like part 1815 01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:47.680 of whatever team who looked at this and said forty dollars, 1816 01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.640 because like, no, no, On top of that, I know 1817 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:55.399 there were so many issues but like that was the 1818 01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:56.800 thing that turned most people away. 1819 01:24:57.560 --> 01:25:00.840 On top of that, it just seems like Sony was 1820 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.560 promoting and acting like this game was an existing franchise 1821 01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:08.399 that we all had an exist, uh fund they taught 1822 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:08.640 us to. 1823 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:11.159 Yeah, and when that was the playbook, right, it was like, 1824 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.800 here's the cut scenes, so you care about these characters 1825 01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:14.560 because that's what you come. 1826 01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:18.279 Now we're running the Blizzard playbook on that one of 1827 01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:20.720 why was Overwatch successful? Well, let's just do that. 1828 01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:25.239 Yeah, And you know, I know when Conquered got initially 1829 01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:29.920 taken down, we joked about that next level anthology series 1830 01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:32.119 of like, oh, it's what's going to happen to that episode? 1831 01:25:32.159 --> 01:25:35.159 And now I genuinely am curious is to like, why 1832 01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:39.279 did PlayStation push to have an episode featured in this 1833 01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:43.319 very limited series if they didn't believe in it or 1834 01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.399 want to put more effort behind it, or like, you know, 1835 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:47.039 let it cook. 1836 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:49.399 Yeah, I mean it's probably you know, it's one hand 1837 01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:53.479 not necessarily known what the other is doing. Where it's right, Sure, 1838 01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:57.359 Sony doesn't have a massive ad campaign on the sides 1839 01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.439 of buses for Concord because they don't believe it in 1840 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:01.880 that way, and they don't believe in it enough to 1841 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:04.319 be a seventy dollars game, but they're like, can we 1842 01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.880 get away with forty dollars? We do have a team 1843 01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:09.640 that does like just go out and make deals. Can 1844 01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:12.279 you do something? Get creative, think of some way to 1845 01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:15.239 like get some juice for Concord? All right? We talked 1846 01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:17.520 to the creator of this show and how we pay 1847 01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:19.000 them a little bit of money to get an episode 1848 01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:22.680 in there. It's these things just happened at big corporations 1849 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:26.359 that way, and maybe does that explain how we end 1850 01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:28.199 up with a concord in the first place. Maybe a 1851 01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:30.039 little bit. But I just I think this is such 1852 01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:35.000 a unique position of it's there is no you can't 1853 01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:38.159 unravel this and understand all all the bad decisions that 1854 01:26:38.279 --> 01:26:41.079 led to concord happening. Right, It's such an organic thing 1855 01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:44.079 of it just goes bad at some point and no 1856 01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:45.680 one can really pinpoint exactly where. 1857 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.479 Kind I just I'm so curious about like, you know, 1858 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:50.840 there's obviously like a lot of you know, lives impacted 1859 01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:53.279 by this in jobs loss and that's terrible, but like 1860 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:58.039 dollars loss because PlayStation bought fire Walk Studios. Yeah, twenty 1861 01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:01.119 twenty three, which seemed like a big of confidence, right, 1862 01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:03.239 like whe they do that, lest that they thought it 1863 01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:04.960 was important. It was, you know, a big part of 1864 01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:07.880 their push into live service games and all that stuff. 1865 01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.479 What's the state of that now that this was like 1866 01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:14.000 as disastrous an outcome as you can imagine. 1867 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:20.399 Yeah, I do still wonder, like what is the long 1868 01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:24.600 term effect of this on how Sony approaches making all 1869 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:28.720 kinds of games going forward? I mean, obviously live service games. Uh, 1870 01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.439 they'll have to live service baby. I mean, that's the 1871 01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:34.680 one that seems like it's still happening, right the rest 1872 01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:35.520 of them, who knows? 1873 01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:36.000 Uh? 1874 01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:38.880 And again, who knows if that one even comes out, 1875 01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:42.199 because they will not want to ever put themselves in 1876 01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:44.840 this situation again or they have to release a game 1877 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:45.600 and then unreleased. 1878 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:48.760 They're not about to start making smaller titles though, Like 1879 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:49.760 they're not going to do that. 1880 01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:51.560 Well, it affects everything. 1881 01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:53.479 The thing about Horizon, though, is at least that's an 1882 01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:56.880 existing series that you know, the general audience likes. Still 1883 01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:59.479 at least look at a game that has Horizon in 1884 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:01.760 the title. You know, it's something wildly different than what 1885 01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.600 they've done before. Nobody knew what the hell Concord was 1886 01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:08.399 so like what it just felt odd to hype that 1887 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:12.960 one up as our next big thing while also undermining yourself. 1888 01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:15.000 Like just said, it's it's a spider web of a 1889 01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:16.159 million bad decisions. 1890 01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:18.720 Yeah, and like you know, if you look across the 1891 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:22.520 pond to like different like five y five or like 1892 01:28:22.840 --> 01:28:26.640 Hero shooters, right, like Overwatch is testing a mode where 1893 01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:27.720 they go back to six. 1894 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:30.960 V sits, So like Overwatch doesn't have the answers either, right, Yeah, 1895 01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:34.399 like the hero hero shooter model has already troubled and 1896 01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:35.680 unsustainable as is. 1897 01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:38.680 Well. Yeah, once you've lost people, you've lost them period. 1898 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:42.720 Like I noticed someone chat brought up like Evolve back 1899 01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:44.479 in the day, you know, that went free to play 1900 01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:46.720 because it wasn't doing so hot, and then that didn't 1901 01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:50.039 help it. But like people are just over the game, 1902 01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:52.000 you know. I think that's what the problem is here. 1903 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:55.279 If you don't set a good first impression, that's when 1904 01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:58.479 your game is just over. And that's why something like uh, 1905 01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:02.239 you know, Concord, no free to play would not completely 1906 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:04.119 save that game. But if it was free to play, 1907 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:06.760 people who have gotten in the door and then from 1908 01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:09.640 there it was up to the characters. The modes whatever, 1909 01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:13.039 and they just didn't have that benefit because nobody wanted 1910 01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:14.119 to check out in the first place. 1911 01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:20.399 So yeah, apparently apparently also closed neon KOI. There's an 1912 01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:23.880 internal email here from Hermann Holst. I know none of 1913 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:25.880 this is easy news to hear, particularly with colleagues and 1914 01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:28.239 friends to party and sie. Both decisions were given serious 1915 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.479 thought and the ultimately we feel they are the right 1916 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.760 ones to strengthen the organization Neon Koy and fire Walk. 1917 01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:36.520 We're home to many talented individuals, and we will work 1918 01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:39.039 to find placement of some of those impacted within our 1919 01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:42.079 global community of studios where possible. I am a big 1920 01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:45.880 believer in the benefits of embracing creative experimentation and developing 1921 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:49.479 new IP. However, growing through sustainable financials, especially in a 1922 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:53.079 challenged economic environment, is critical. Holy moly, man, that's a 1923 01:29:53.319 --> 01:29:55.760 fucking sentence right there. Well, today, it's a difficult day. 1924 01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:57.800 There isn't much to look forward to in the months 1925 01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.560 ahead from the Studio Business Group and our teams. I 1926 01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:03.439 remain confident that we are building a resilient and capable 1927 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:08.279 organization driven by creating unforgettable entertainment experiences for our players. 1928 01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:12.359 I mean, yeah, if you are going to learn a 1929 01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.159 lesson from this, if you're Hermann Holst, it is we 1930 01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:19.600 do not have the power to just manufacture a hit 1931 01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:23.640 out of nothing. We are not. It turns out Valve 1932 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.359 like we can't just be like here is dead Shot, 1933 01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:29.880 dead Shot Deadlock, Like, here's Deadlock. It's free to play 1934 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:32.800 on Steam, do you care. Turns out, yeah, there's gonna 1935 01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:34.079 be a lot of people who just are looking for 1936 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:36.319 that kind of game on Steam. Vowel understands that they 1937 01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:38.039 put it out there, it's going to find an audience. 1938 01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:40.680 Alf can't do that. Every time. 1939 01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.439 Artifacts was a giant floor and that was shocking. 1940 01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:46.720 I think that was another bad first impression thing where 1941 01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:48.880 Artifact a lot of things wrong out the gate, and 1942 01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:50.560 so people just wrote it off instantly. 1943 01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:55.239 Yep, yeah, it's uh, it's gonna It's gonna happen. But 1944 01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:58.239 but I think the shock you think for me continues 1945 01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:00.199 to be prefer it to happen for such a big 1946 01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.039 budget game from a first party that can kind of 1947 01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:06.880 talk to their audience. It's that audience seems more fickle 1948 01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:10.640 than ever, and I think that is the challenged economic environment, 1949 01:31:10.840 --> 01:31:13.920 is that people are a little bit more mindful of 1950 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.319 the money they're spending right now, and every dollar adds 1951 01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:18.920 up in a way that hurts a little bit more 1952 01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:21.840 than it did before because of grocery store prices and 1953 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:25.159 high gas prices. Although they're coming down, but whatever, people 1954 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:25.760 still feel that. 1955 01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:26.960 And I. 1956 01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:30.199 What choice do you have though? When your game's done, 1957 01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:31.319 you got to put it out. You got to put 1958 01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:34.479 it out in the environment that exists. So when you're 1959 01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:37.479 green lighting these games in the first place, like, what 1960 01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:39.640 are the things you're looking for to make you feel 1961 01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:41.800 comfortable to say yes to a project these days? And 1962 01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:44.000 I just don't know what that looks like other than 1963 01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:46.560 a sequel to a known quantity and Neon. 1964 01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:48.880 KUIV they were supposedly working on a Triple A life 1965 01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:51.640 service game of their own that was supposed to be 1966 01:31:51.800 --> 01:31:52.760 a strategy man. 1967 01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:56.319 Well critically and quickly they were a mobile game developer. 1968 01:31:56.520 --> 01:32:00.319 So it's like, was that where Sony's genchen is going 1969 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.640 to come out of there? Yo game? Like, I wonder 1970 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:05.039 what all of that was adding up to over there. 1971 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.720 I don't know a lot of weird decisions in general. 1972 01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:13.119 I question for you all, how does a game like 1973 01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:17.600 Dead by Daylight continue to survive and thrive when we 1974 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:22.319 see these gigantic Triple A games as service just crash 1975 01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:23.479 and burn constantly. 1976 01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:27.600 Legacy, Yeah, and like just like appealing to like knowing 1977 01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:29.960 your audience and having a stranglehold on that audience. That 1978 01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:31.840 audience knows where to go to get that stuff, and 1979 01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:36.000 that audience isn't necessarily super well served by a ton 1980 01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:39.079 of different choices either, there's more. That genre has more 1981 01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:41.680 than just that game. And yes, but Dead by Daylight 1982 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:44.479 is the one that like, you know, first mover's advantage 1983 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:46.800 and then also they just continue to make the deals 1984 01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:49.119 to keep it relevant. And so people like I have 1985 01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:51.920 my sunk costing here, I have the skins that I liked, 1986 01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.159 and I'm gonna if I'm gonna go to one of 1987 01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:56.239 these games to buy more skins, I'll come back to 1988 01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:56.920 Dead by Daylight. 1989 01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:01.720 Yeah. It's something that released in the earlier days of streaming, 1990 01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.119 so streamers, you know, caught on with it, and then 1991 01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:05.800 the audience said, I want to play the game that 1992 01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:08.680 my favorite streamer is playing. And so that's why I 1993 01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:10.560 mean when I say a legacy, it's like it's built 1994 01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:13.399 up this reputation and so it's cement to itself, you know, 1995 01:33:13.479 --> 01:33:16.960 That's why Fortnite got so big is because it was available, 1996 01:33:17.079 --> 01:33:19.119 being free to play. A bunch of people hopped on 1997 01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:22.000 a train. Popular streamers got even more popular or playing it. 1998 01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:24.399 It just it was a snowball effect. And that's how 1999 01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:27.760 some like Deadlight Dead by Daylight continues to exist. But 2000 01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:31.560 something like say Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is not doing 2001 01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:35.079 something radically different, you know, that doesn't catch on, like 2002 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:37.520 regardless of size of the team, size of the game, 2003 01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:39.880 anything like that. It's just because people are like, well, 2004 01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:42.159 I'm just gonna already play this one there I have. 2005 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:48.119 You know, I'm curious to see how Marvel Rivals is accepted. Yeah, 2006 01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:51.119 it officially comes out, like I know, the betas have 2007 01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:57.880 been very popular, but I'm curious, like, once that is out, 2008 01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:02.279 is that gonna capture like the lapsed Overwatch players or 2009 01:34:02.439 --> 01:34:05.880 people the Marvels. That'sure it does for that reason, I mean, 2010 01:34:06.079 --> 01:34:07.520 you know, yeah, I mean the one thing we see 2011 01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:10.119 these light service games doing is depending on IP even 2012 01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:11.680 you know, outside of its own thing. 2013 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:14.000 Right, That's why I mean Fortnite's been doing it forever. 2014 01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:16.760 Meet things like magic the Gathering, right like well, yeah, 2015 01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:18.479 here's the word. The rings card set. Here's the FOM 2016 01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:20.800 fantasy card set. And I'm always like, oh, that's kind 2017 01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:23.800 of neat. It's also kind of sad in some way 2018 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:27.199 empathetic even, right, or you know, there certainly is a 2019 01:34:28.079 --> 01:34:29.680 lack of originality these days. 2020 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:33.439 Yeah, yep, all right, let's move along here. US Copyright 2021 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:36.479 Office refuses to allow remote access to out of print 2022 01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:41.000 games for libraries. So the US Copyright Office denied a 2023 01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:44.239 petition to allow remote access to out of print video games. Basically, 2024 01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:47.439 the idea was going to be that libraries have physical 2025 01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:49.600 copies of these games, and they were going to be 2026 01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:53.800 able to virtualize those games and offer limited access to 2027 01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:55.800 certain people at a certain number of people at that time. 2028 01:34:56.319 --> 01:34:58.960 Basically the way like the epub rules work that they 2029 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:00.880 have to deal with publishers where it's like you can 2030 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:04.199 let someone borrow this EPUB version of our book so 2031 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:06.640 many times before you have to re up the license, 2032 01:35:07.079 --> 01:35:08.399 and they're like, hey, we want to do the same 2033 01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:11.439 thing with video games, remote access to our games using 2034 01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:14.840 emulation or whatever, cloud streaming, any sort of way of 2035 01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:18.520 actually solving this, And the US Copyright Office sided with 2036 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:23.159 the Entertainment Software Association and other industry lobbying firms to 2037 01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:27.960 shut that down because well not because of money, because 2038 01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:30.640 like ninety percent of these games are not for sale 2039 01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:33.680 and are not generating income for anybody. So it's just 2040 01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:37.800 to protect copyright in every which way because these companies. 2041 01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:43.920 It's pet Yes, it's petty. This is it's frustrating. Obviously 2042 01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:45.800 there are you could see how it could get out 2043 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.319 of hand. It's like someone could just say they're a 2044 01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:49.520 library and do it whatever. But it's like there's ways 2045 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:52.079 around that obviously. Just write the regulation in such a 2046 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:55.800 way that accredited libraries, accredited universities could do this, and 2047 01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:58.199 it's hard for anyone else to actually get approval. There's 2048 01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:02.000 also already website where you can do exactly this, just 2049 01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:05.039 like click a button and start playing a ROM that 2050 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:07.800 will play in an emulator that boots up in your browser. 2051 01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:11.319 That stuff already exists, so it's not like preventing libraries 2052 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:13.359 from doing this is going to wipe that stuff or 2053 01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:15.239 going to keep that stuff off the Internet. So I 2054 01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:19.239 just don't see why they fight this stuff so hard, 2055 01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:21.560 other than the lawyers are just going to do what 2056 01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:22.079 lawyers do. 2057 01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.079 Yeah, I don't want to misquote anyone, but I remember 2058 01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:27.760 an old episode of The Video Game History Hour where 2059 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:32.199 Frank and Kelsey were talking about this subject, and Frank 2060 01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:34.239 was sort of like being really agitated because he's like 2061 01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:38.119 something you kind of said there, Jeff, of these things 2062 01:36:38.199 --> 01:36:41.840 already exist illegally and we're trying to make it legitimized 2063 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:44.119 and have it be regulated or anything like that, and 2064 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:47.600 you are preventing us from making this legit, and like 2065 01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:49.760 you can do where we watch to the illegal stuff, 2066 01:36:49.800 --> 01:36:52.000 but we're trying to make this legit and your presents 2067 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:52.439 from doing that. 2068 01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:59.760 Yeah, just legalize it, legalize it. Yeah, it would make it, 2069 01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.479 you know, technically probably easier to go after the illegal 2070 01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:04.560 ones at that point, right, because it'd be very clear 2071 01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:06.800 how they are violating stuff, and maybe you could build 2072 01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:10.760 the enforcement of that into the regulation that permits these 2073 01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:12.680 things to exist legally from library, right. 2074 01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:15.880 I mean, I want to quote Frank's post on the subject, 2075 01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.479 word for a word he said. The moment I became 2076 01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.079 the joker is when someone in charge of copyright law 2077 01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:23.800 watched my GDC talk about how it's wrong to associate 2078 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:28.359 emulation with piracy, and their takeaway was emulation is associated 2079 01:37:28.399 --> 01:37:30.479 with piracy because they quote them in some of this 2080 01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:33.640 like some of these documents like. 2081 01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:37.439 Frank, Yes, Frank Uswalde and Kelsey Lewin were a part 2082 01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:39.560 of the petition that was trying to make this happen 2083 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:41.520 in the first place. So they're doing work on the 2084 01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:43.640 ground trying to get this to happen, and then the 2085 01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:47.079 people who are in charge of copyright just don't understand 2086 01:37:47.359 --> 01:37:50.439 the idiots, yes, the content that they're absorbing to try 2087 01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:52.000 to understand this issue, and they come out with the 2088 01:37:52.039 --> 01:37:57.600 exact wrong takeaway. All right. Bungee claims Marathon is on track, 2089 01:37:57.720 --> 01:38:00.399 but it's not ready to show gameplay quite yet. Bungee's 2090 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.960 upcoming sci fi PvP extraction shooter Just Whatevery Kid Wants 2091 01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:07.119 for Christmas, Marathon is still in development, according to game 2092 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:10.680 director Joe Ziegler. Although Bungie isn't ready to reveal gameplay yet, 2093 01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:13.319 Ziegler share a new concept art discuss the current state 2094 01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:16.119 of the project, and teased plans to expand play testing 2095 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:18.960 in twenty twenty five. The game's launch window has yet 2096 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:21.760 to be announced. U less you know, we've heard rumors, 2097 01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:24.319 and what I've heard is twenty late twenty twenty five. 2098 01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:26.640 Late twenty twenty five still is what they're aiming for 2099 01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:30.199 we'll see, but it's expected to release on Xbox Series 2100 01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.479 X and SPS five MPC. The you know Sony game 2101 01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:36.680 from Bungee because they owned Bungie. Bunge and Sony reportedly 2102 01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:40.680 considered are considering a forty dollars price. 2103 01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:46.640 Tag pressures on this one. Wow, I'm glad I'm not 2104 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:50.159 working on this game. Holy shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 2105 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:51.960 I mean that's the kind of thing I've heard out 2106 01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:53.800 of Bungie as well, because there were a lot of 2107 01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:57.319 people either let go or send over to Sony, and 2108 01:38:57.399 --> 01:38:59.239 it's like apparently a lot of people sent over to 2109 01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:01.920 Sony are like kind of glad I'm not a Bungee anymore. 2110 01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:06.520 That's a mess. So it sucks. Yeah. I mean, the 2111 01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:10.840 thing that Marathon will have that Concord didn't is it's 2112 01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:14.640 very easy to sure Marathon's an existing IP whatever. I 2113 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:17.720 barely count, right, But the thing they could say is 2114 01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:21.159 this is the next game from Bungee, and that means something. 2115 01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:22.039 All runs a whole lot. 2116 01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:24.159 It's kind of like Valvet Deadlocke you and say it's 2117 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.760 the next Valve game. Here, say it's the next Bungee game, 2118 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:28.319 and that does hold weight there. 2119 01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:31.079 Except people will want to play the new shooter from 2120 01:39:31.159 --> 01:39:34.760 Bungee every time you say that sentence. So it'll help 2121 01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:40.359 a little bit. But you know, they're still destiny happening. 2122 01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:41.720 They're still gonna be updating that. 2123 01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.279 I am ready to be wrong and I am ready 2124 01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:46.960 to fall in love with Marathon for the sake of 2125 01:39:47.079 --> 01:39:52.840 video games. I want Marathon to be okay, yeah, yes. 2126 01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:54.439 It would be cool. The you know, the last we 2127 01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:58.520 heard about this game from recent reports where that the 2128 01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:04.359 sentiment internally Marathon is not positive. So we'll see. 2129 01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:07.279 Well, you know, hey, it's a marathon. It's not a race. 2130 01:40:07.359 --> 01:40:11.359 Guys, get the host off the show. 2131 01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:14.479 I'm stremely good. You can't kick. 2132 01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:17.960 I do wonder what like that larger like Bungee fan 2133 01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:20.439 base or placeation like fanbase is going to think of 2134 01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:24.199 the Extraction shooter model. I know that has like a 2135 01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:26.880 you know, a big fan base with Tarkov and stuff 2136 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.800 like that, but is it going to kind of cross pollinate. 2137 01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:32.079 I did people who maybe are hoping for like old 2138 01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:32.800 school Halo. 2139 01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:35.279 I did lie. I said that the Call of Do 2140 01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:38.079 Thing installed everything automatically on Steam. The one thing it 2141 01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:41.279 didn't install was DMC, which they shut down, right, that's 2142 01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:48.560 that even MC I was like DM DMZ I should say. 2143 01:40:48.479 --> 01:40:54.239 Yes, well that's within war zone. Okay, all right, smart 2144 01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:57.119 was smart. They were like, oh, extraction shooter trend. Let's 2145 01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.560 make it a mode in our free to play games. 2146 01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:01.640 See if it catches on. And as far as I know, 2147 01:41:02.159 --> 01:41:05.920 it didn't. Right, So I don't know that you say 2148 01:41:05.960 --> 01:41:09.239 extraction shooter, I'm immediately like noping on out. I'm immediately 2149 01:41:09.319 --> 01:41:12.439 gone because google boring concept for a shooter for me. 2150 01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:15.239 If you google extraction shooter, the second result is from 2151 01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:19.399 the marathon subreddit asking what is an extraction shooter? 2152 01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:22.359 Yeah, I mean we probably mentioned this all the time, 2153 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:25.199 and people are like, the answer that you guys always 2154 01:41:25.239 --> 01:41:26.920 say is it's like Tarkoff, I still don't know what 2155 01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:27.199 that is. 2156 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:30.600 Ok So you like, you start the game up, you 2157 01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:35.399 are in a world and you gather resources by like 2158 01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:38.760 you know, gathering resources and fighting people, and then you 2159 01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:40.319 extract hence the name. 2160 01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.399 And if you extract you get to keep those right, and. 2161 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:47.159 The resources used to do more things in that loop. 2162 01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:52.119 Right, like that, it's like that one mode in Division. 2163 01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:54.800 Yes, a little bit right. I think that was like 2164 01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:55.239 a proto. 2165 01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:57.720 That's kind of fun. 2166 01:41:58.079 --> 01:42:01.039 Yeah, I mean the idea of Okay, so now I 2167 01:42:01.279 --> 01:42:05.479 have survived several extractions, so I have a very powerful 2168 01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:07.720 character that can now take on anything. So you get 2169 01:42:07.720 --> 01:42:10.279 a bit confident. But then what if you mess up 2170 01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:12.359 and someone kills you, they get to take a lot 2171 01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:14.479 of your stuff, right, That's my understanding. So it's like 2172 01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:16.479 makes it more exciting when you kill someone who's been 2173 01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:19.239 playing for a while, and yeah, and maybe you get 2174 01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:22.000 a leg up because of that. I see the appeal, 2175 01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:24.680 and there's definitely a chance for one of these games, 2176 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:28.000 from one of these established developers to break through and 2177 01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.560 make the Fortnite of extraction shooters. 2178 01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:33.439 But that's where well, I mean, the thing is though, 2179 01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:36.760 the loop that is there, And maybe I'm wildly off 2180 01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:38.600 the mark because I haven't spent much time with any 2181 01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:40.319 of these outside of you know, like a few hours 2182 01:42:40.359 --> 01:42:44.159 in DMZ I am KINV had a thing of how 2183 01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:47.760 is this better than like a closed loop like border 2184 01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:50.800 Lands back in the day or Master Hunter nowadays, where 2185 01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:54.680 I go in with my friends, I defeat an objective 2186 01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:58.319 to get the stuff that looks cool and allows me 2187 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:01.000 to take on the bigger bosses than the game. I've 2188 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:02.760 never understood, like why. 2189 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:05.840 People like it's the crack cocaine version right where it's like, yeah, 2190 01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:08.279 like one, it's like just a little bit more amplified 2191 01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:10.439 because there's a little bit more on the line. Because 2192 01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:12.600 if you do die and you can't get out, like 2193 01:43:12.760 --> 01:43:16.199 that feels bad. So when you do escape extract with 2194 01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:18.279 that stuff, you get a little bit of a rush. 2195 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:19.560 I think that's what people like. 2196 01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:21.359 I just don't know if that's going to catch on 2197 01:43:21.520 --> 01:43:24.399 with a lot of people and might not. I don't 2198 01:43:24.399 --> 01:43:26.960 know if y'all remember anything from the trailer, but I 2199 01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:30.199 put it on for myself here, and uh, y'all remember 2200 01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:38.319 when they're using futuristic space cybernetic space silkworms to three 2201 01:43:38.399 --> 01:43:41.520 D print someone? No, I do remember that? 2202 01:43:41.960 --> 01:43:45.159 Oh what is this game? I just I don't. 2203 01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:48.439 I mean, of course, I wish that they were like 2204 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:52.680 actually rebooting Marathon into like a new single player shooter 2205 01:43:52.800 --> 01:43:55.960 that also had like you know, just deathmatch modes or whatnot. 2206 01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:58.880 Like why could this not be coming back as sort 2207 01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:02.479 of like the Wolfenstein versus Doom, you know, like we 2208 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:04.680 can have both and they do different things, Like why 2209 01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:09.159 can't this be maybe their Doom to like, you know, 2210 01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:11.920 versus Halo. Like I'm mixing metaphors, but you know what 2211 01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:12.199 I mean. 2212 01:44:12.600 --> 01:44:13.840 It would have been a good excuse for them to 2213 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:15.920 basically be able to make a Halo game without making 2214 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:16.600 a Halo. 2215 01:44:16.399 --> 01:44:19.159 Exactly like they have Destiny now and that's like live service. 2216 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:22.720 This could have been their more single player offering. 2217 01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:25.720 I don't know, do you guys ever play Classic Marathon? 2218 01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:29.600 It got released on Xbox three sixty at one point 2219 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:30.399 or something like. 2220 01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:32.520 I don't know if it's a fan version or something, 2221 01:44:32.560 --> 01:44:33.520 but a version. 2222 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:35.319 Of it is on PC now I believe, Yeah, there's 2223 01:44:35.399 --> 01:44:38.399 there is Classic Marathon on Steam. I think it's called 2224 01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:39.279 Classic Marathon. 2225 01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:42.279 It was doomed for Mac users, yes, I remember? 2226 01:44:42.439 --> 01:44:47.479 Yeah, all right, all right, let's do this one. Starfield 2227 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:50.600 two will be one hell of a game. According to 2228 01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:55.720 ex Bethesta designer. Bruce Nessmith, a former Bethosta designer, believes 2229 01:44:55.760 --> 01:44:58.359 that Starfield two will be excellent because Bethesta will learn 2230 01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:01.159 from those stakes of the first game. Now, this does 2231 01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:04.600 not sound like he's saying there is a Starfield two, 2232 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:08.680 I've seen it. What he's saying is remember Assassin's Creed one, 2233 01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:10.840 Remember Mass Effect one? You remember how good the sequels 2234 01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:13.039 were to that the same thing will happen if they 2235 01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:14.119 do a Starfield two. 2236 01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:16.359 You and m I said this last time, though, though 2237 01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:18.520 it used to be that there were two years between 2238 01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:19.239 those things. 2239 01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:22.600 There was two to three years max between A one 2240 01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:25.319 and A two back then, and now we're talking maybe 2241 01:45:25.359 --> 01:45:28.600 we get a Starfield two in fifteen years. Yeah, to 2242 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:31.199 help anybody, Jeff, I used to say this in our 2243 01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:33.840 podcast all the time when they were like talking about 2244 01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:34.800 Starfield and making it. 2245 01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:37.199 I said, I don't think they should make Starfield. I 2246 01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:39.760 think they should just hurry up and make more outer 2247 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:41.000 scrolls and fallow up. 2248 01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:43.079 And I would get yelled at, like, no, it's good 2249 01:45:43.119 --> 01:45:43.800 to do something new. 2250 01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:46.920 I get it well now that a Starfield two isn't 2251 01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:51.119 something new, I think I could definitely say no, we shouldn't. 2252 01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:54.600 It's it's just so hard now if a Skyrim in 2253 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:57.880 a fault make eight years to make to interrupt that 2254 01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.039 cycle which is already it's too right. There's too much 2255 01:46:01.039 --> 01:46:03.640 of a gap between Skyrim and when Old School six 2256 01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:05.159 come out, it's gonna be too big of a gap 2257 01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:07.800 between foll four whatever. The next fallout is right, and 2258 01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:10.640 you've got to figure out ways to fix that. But 2259 01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:15.239 you can't exasperate that issue by throwing in a Starfield two. 2260 01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:17.520 There when the last Starfield and I know some people 2261 01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:20.680 like Starfield. It's not a bad game, of course, but 2262 01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:25.000 is it really worth adding another eight years of wait 2263 01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:29.319 onto your next elder scrolls and fallouts? And if you 2264 01:46:29.479 --> 01:46:31.319 really want up, if you really want to make a 2265 01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:33.680 Starfield two, you've got to maybe figure something else out 2266 01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:36.399 than just having that core team part of that. 2267 01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:38.880 I like that Mike has already made this more interesting 2268 01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:42.039 conversation because this, this statement, why I read this was 2269 01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:44.960 just the most well, no ship a moment. 2270 01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:46.279 Yeah, I've had a long time. 2271 01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:51.359 Of course, I actually don't know the context that this 2272 01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:54.000 came out, Jeff, but like this feels like maybe a 2273 01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:56.680 statement that people are twisting a little. 2274 01:46:57.640 --> 01:46:59.960 Yes, that's what. Definitely, it's just like seeing the Starfield 2275 01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.079 two in headlines. I think people are like, wait, do 2276 01:47:02.159 --> 01:47:02.960 I even want that? 2277 01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:03.399 Yeah? 2278 01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:04.039 What would that mean? 2279 01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:06.920 That's more interesting conversation I have, Right, that's the conversation. 2280 01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:10.800 We were going to have here. Yes, And then I think, 2281 01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:12.800 you know, okay, so let's talk about like Starfield. Then 2282 01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:16.760 I would a Starfield to even be the best use 2283 01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:19.439 of their development resources if they were going to continue 2284 01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:22.119 Starfield or should they just keep improving Starfield one to 2285 01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:24.039 make it a better game. I think that's the better. 2286 01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:27.199 But that even that expansion that came out this year 2287 01:47:27.279 --> 01:47:28.960 right kind of seemed like it came with a big 2288 01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:30.359 what it was bad? 2289 01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:32.560 Yeah, it was like most people really really really disliked, 2290 01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:36.239 except for Greg Miller and then who loves that apparently. 2291 01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:40.960 But I still think it like the right answers probably 2292 01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:44.680 move on and go get all guns blazing on Elder 2293 01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:48.279 Scroll six. But I don't hate the idea of a small, 2294 01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:52.199 dedicated team doing updates to Starfield once a year, kind 2295 01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:53.399 of similar to No Man's Sky. 2296 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:56.159 I don't know if I want to say that, like, oh, 2297 01:47:56.520 --> 01:47:58.319 I get I guess sounds depressing. You have to work 2298 01:47:58.359 --> 01:48:00.800 on these two franchises only forever. Now, I get that, 2299 01:48:01.279 --> 01:48:04.439 maybe you try something new again. I don't think you 2300 01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:07.079 go back to starf but you know, you gave it 2301 01:48:07.119 --> 01:48:09.399 a shot there and it's something and it can live 2302 01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:11.640 on like it was. I don't even know what really 2303 01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:15.439 changes in like the next ten years, because I feel 2304 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:18.039 like a lot of Starflee's problems is just the realities 2305 01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:20.920 of making video games and how much of that game 2306 01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:23.760 that they dreamed about is actually something you can make, 2307 01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:26.279 And I don't really see us being able to make 2308 01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:30.800 that idealized version of that game really, or at least 2309 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:33.359 Bethesda being able to make that game at any point 2310 01:48:33.359 --> 01:48:34.399 in the next fifteen years. 2311 01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:36.159 Yeah, exactly. I think it may have been a little 2312 01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:39.279 too high concept for what we can reasonably do in 2313 01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:41.920 maybe any video game. Ever, with the way Tom was 2314 01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:44.000 talking about, I mean, I'm curious, like Jeff, I know 2315 01:48:44.079 --> 01:48:46.159 you like Starfield a lot more than the rest of us. 2316 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:49.680 Yeah, again, where did you where'd you land on? 2317 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:52.920 Like how things are laid out? Because before release you 2318 01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:54.840 were like, well, yeah, space is empty, You're gonna have 2319 01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:57.159 some empty space, And then afterwards people looked at him 2320 01:48:57.159 --> 01:48:58.760 were like, no, actually this is kind of boring. 2321 01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:01.520 Maybe you know. 2322 01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:02.159 It's like I. 2323 01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:06.279 They don't give you the chance to be excited by 2324 01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:09.239 the emptiness because you never stumble across anything that interesting 2325 01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:11.880 Like that was the hope is like, it's okay if 2326 01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:15.720 five moon moons are completely barren, if I stumble across 2327 01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:20.439 a really cool spoke pirate enclave on this one moon, 2328 01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:21.920 it's like, no, they're all kind of empty, and they 2329 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:25.039 all kind of have the same dispersion of pirate bases 2330 01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:27.159 as any of the other ones, so it doesn't feel special. 2331 01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:29.279 And then when you do land on a planet that 2332 01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:33.039 ostensibly does have something, the same thing happens every time. 2333 01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:35.680 It is an eight to twelve minute walk to the 2334 01:49:35.760 --> 01:49:38.720 interesting thing, where it's like, boy, you got to get 2335 01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:40.960 me something. In the first two minutes, I'm kind of 2336 01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:43.680 gally maybe thirty seconds to get to something I care about, 2337 01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:46.119 But eight to twelve minutes, man, I am going to 2338 01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:47.640 be thinking about all the other things I could be 2339 01:49:47.680 --> 01:49:50.000 doing in that time, And so they're just the structure 2340 01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.640 of how the game doled out exploration was not great. 2341 01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:55.359 That was where the game broke for me. 2342 01:49:55.800 --> 01:49:58.439 So like the valleys could have made the peak seem higher, 2343 01:49:58.479 --> 01:49:59.720 except the peaks weren't that high to. 2344 01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:02.640 Begin right, It's all just kind of in that middle muck, 2345 01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:04.520 like even when like some of it like could be 2346 01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:06.319 a peak, some of it could be a valley, it 2347 01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:09.560 all feels the same in the end. It's really actually 2348 01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:12.359 maybe a worst case scenario for Starfield in terms of 2349 01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:14.920 how that feels, which is why I didn't care enough 2350 01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:17.920 to get into the loop of playing over and over 2351 01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:20.520 again in the way the the in game stuff works 2352 01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:23.359 because it's like for me, I need the early expiration 2353 01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:29.239 to be the propelling factor. Yeah all right, Black Ops 2354 01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.880 six tops the UK charts, but physical sales are down 2355 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:34.199 ten percent, likely due to game Pass. It's kind of 2356 01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:36.039 the reason I included that here. It's like, yeah, this 2357 01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:39.039 is about the number you would expect physical game sales 2358 01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:41.399 to drop when game pass becomes an option. Right, It's 2359 01:50:41.399 --> 01:50:44.039 like it's still selling very very well. It's gonna make 2360 01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:46.560 a lot of money, but about ten percent of people 2361 01:50:46.600 --> 01:50:48.479 are going, I'm I'm gonna get in on a game pass. 2362 01:50:48.520 --> 01:50:50.199 If you told me it was ten percent just because 2363 01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:54.479 of like natural shift to digital, I would wouldn't even 2364 01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:55.479 beat that much of an eye of that. 2365 01:50:55.640 --> 01:50:59.119 So yeah, right, ten percent drop in physical sales nothing. 2366 01:50:59.039 --> 01:51:01.439 Nothing else to call duty app putting it fun Center 2367 01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:04.239 as an advertisement could be attributed to people switching more 2368 01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:07.359 to towards digital as well, because it's so easy to purchase, 2369 01:51:07.640 --> 01:51:08.520 right Yeah. 2370 01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:14.279 Yep, yeah, it's there's a sonic. Sonic Shadow Generations was 2371 01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:17.359 number three on the chart, just behind EA Sports. 2372 01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.920 FC like it like so like they sent out the 2373 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:22.720 tweets thing it's sold a million, like on release day. Yeap, 2374 01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:23.720 it seems like that one's. 2375 01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:24.119 Doing very well. 2376 01:51:24.159 --> 01:51:27.439 Which one yep, absolutely generation general questions. 2377 01:51:28.039 --> 01:51:30.199 Yeah, that one's an interesting one. I thought about playing 2378 01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:32.199 it this weekend, but when I saw it was fifty, 2379 01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:35.800 I'm like, ah, fifty for I've played half of this 2380 01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:36.680 game before. 2381 01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:40.920 But you get a shadow That shadow campaign is good. 2382 01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:44.079 Yeah, it's good. That's all I've been hearing. I'm like, eh, 2383 01:51:44.319 --> 01:51:46.720 Black Friday's right around the corner. Maybe if I can 2384 01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:50.079 get a little cheaper, like maybe more towards forty. I know, 2385 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:52.800 I not ready get cheaper on PC, you know, through 2386 01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:55.520 like a green Man Gaming or whatever, but maybe maybe 2387 01:51:55.640 --> 01:51:57.760 you know, wait for the sales to Brameboard. 2388 01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:01.239 Totally shout Hedgehoff the game, not the character. 2389 01:52:01.359 --> 01:52:03.359 Is that a Halloween game? Um? 2390 01:52:06.079 --> 01:52:07.560 Can he turn into the wear Hog? 2391 01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:11.239 Yeah? 2392 01:52:12.159 --> 01:52:14.880 Ship, there we go, Jeff, You're welcome. 2393 01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:15.439 Hell yeah. 2394 01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:16.359 I wonder if they are. 2395 01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:19.079 I think that's like the only of the Boost games 2396 01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:21.199 they haven't remastered. I wonder if they are going to 2397 01:52:21.279 --> 01:52:23.319 remaster Sonic and least I kind of hope they did. 2398 01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:27.720 I mean they that game fix the wear Hog stages. 2399 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:29.840 It would actually be a decent game because the daytime 2400 01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:32.640 stages are actually fantastic, maybe the best of the boost 2401 01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:35.800 Sonic levels, you know, yeah. 2402 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:40.600 Classic Halloween, Monster, the Wear Hog all right. In sixty four, 2403 01:52:40.840 --> 01:52:42.960 shadow Man and Trock two have been added to Nintendo 2404 01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:46.279 Switch Online. They're part of the expansion pack. They're probably 2405 01:52:46.319 --> 01:52:50.319 in the the m in sixty four. 2406 01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:52.119 Uh, it's good to have them in. They're just to 2407 01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:53.960 fill that thing out because it looks at just the 2408 01:52:54.039 --> 01:52:55.199 two games and that that's right. 2409 01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:58.199 But this is weird because both of these games right 2410 01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:01.960 are already on the Switch with remastered. 2411 01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:05.119 Versions from night Dive, and they're both good remasters, and 2412 01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:08.680 you know, I don't think any of these are great games, 2413 01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:11.720 although the remasters are very good. Shadow Man is probably 2414 01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:14.479 more interesting because it's kind of like Mario sixty four 2415 01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:18.760 meets Tomb Raider with the like aesthetics of Soul Reaver 2416 01:53:19.039 --> 01:53:22.439 in al ways, there's something interesting about shadow Man. Yeah, 2417 01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:24.239 so I can understand people being like, I want to 2418 01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:25.960 try these games, and I'm okay just. 2419 01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:27.960 Playing the original set of spending money. 2420 01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:30.000 Based off of the three things you listed, though, Mike, 2421 01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:32.960 I need everyone to temper their expectations by like a 2422 01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:33.800 thousand percent. 2423 01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:36.920 Yeah, probably it's not as fun as what. I just 2424 01:53:38.159 --> 01:53:41.439 to be honest, I know that sounded amazing, but like 2425 01:53:41.479 --> 01:53:42.000 when I say. 2426 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:44.159 Two Raider, I mean like a lot of PS one 2427 01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:48.520 tomb Raider kind of yeah, much control and vibe in 2428 01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:52.199 some ways, it's a very interesting game. I don't mind 2429 01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:54.239 them adding here them here, But if you really wanted 2430 01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:56.640 to play turrok Too or shadow Man, then you should 2431 01:53:56.640 --> 01:53:58.760 just wait for one of those Night Dive Studios remasters 2432 01:53:58.840 --> 01:53:59.600 to go on sale. 2433 01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:04.199 Yeah, Yakuza Kawami on Switch is selling like hotcakes, according 2434 01:54:04.279 --> 01:54:09.760 to Rio, got go to co Studio? What's that? Who 2435 01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:15.119 claimed that Jeff Rio got go toku okay okay, I'll 2436 01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:18.199 do my best. The Dictato Switch version of Yakuza Kawami, 2437 01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:20.199 a remake of the original two thousand and five PS 2438 01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:23.520 two game, has had a strong start. According to Rio, 2439 01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:28.680 got go to kut Actually yeah, I think the faster 2440 01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:33.039 I say it, the better. It kind of mumbles out. Yeah, basically, 2441 01:54:33.359 --> 01:54:36.000 this game has been out everywhere and now it's they're 2442 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:38.720 starting to finally trickle these games out on Switch and 2443 01:54:40.119 --> 01:54:42.960 they have primed the pump right. People know about these games, 2444 01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:45.439 now care about these games, and I think people on 2445 01:54:45.560 --> 01:54:48.199 Switch were ready to like Oh yeah, I would love 2446 01:54:48.199 --> 01:54:51.119 to have that. There's a certain audience of gamer that's like, No, 2447 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:53.359 I travel all the time and I just only play 2448 01:54:53.399 --> 01:54:54.760 games on my switch. I don't know what a steam 2449 01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:57.079 deck is. I don't care if a game kind of 2450 01:54:57.079 --> 01:54:59.000 doesn't exist until it's on switch. But I have heard 2451 01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:01.079 of these Yakuza games and people said I should play that. 2452 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:03.479 Now it's here and they're doing exactly that. I don't 2453 01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:03.800 know why. 2454 01:55:04.279 --> 01:55:06.560 The prospect of infinite wealth on a switch made me 2455 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:08.800 excited and I got the tingles thinking about it, even 2456 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:09.840 though I've played it already. 2457 01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:13.199 Yeah, because the Sea Deck, like a lot of other people, 2458 01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:17.239 I know, its like in the same way like I 2459 01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:19.159 have my like my moroc ally accident's great. 2460 01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:20.840 I play a lot of games on there. I'm paying 2461 01:55:20.920 --> 01:55:22.000 playing Metaphor in the right now. 2462 01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:25.039 If you're like they're bringing metaphors switch, I'm like, that's 2463 01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:26.840 still switch. 2464 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:33.600 No, thinking that game would run like Garbo on the switch. No, 2465 01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:35.920 it's still is still cool for the people who don't 2466 01:55:36.079 --> 01:55:39.359 have those, uh you know, portable PCs, which is most people. 2467 01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.960 So it's still cool that these games can get out 2468 01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:43.840 to that audience. I can see it this doing well 2469 01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:46.880 on the switch because the Yakaza games are notoriously dense 2470 01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:50.239 with stuff to do, so yeah, especially if maybe someone 2471 01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:53.479 started with Yakaza like a dragon or with infinite wealth, 2472 01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.159 and maybe they're in the mindset of all These are 2473 01:55:56.279 --> 01:55:59.600 long games as well, so they will naturally gravitate towards 2474 01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:00.560 the port version. 2475 01:56:01.159 --> 01:56:02.720 Okay uh. 2476 01:56:03.119 --> 01:56:07.520 Nintendo details Animal Crossing Pocket Camp Complete, the paid version 2477 01:56:07.640 --> 01:56:09.600 of its mobile game that is coming to an end. 2478 01:56:10.119 --> 01:56:13.520 Nintendo's upcaming. Paid version of this game will be twenty dollars, 2479 01:56:13.800 --> 01:56:16.159 but it's going to have an introductory price of ten 2480 01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:20.520 dollars until January thirty. First. It will include almost everything 2481 01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:23.199 from the free to play version, except for some features 2482 01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:27.119 like leaf tickets and the pocket Camp Club subscription. Players 2483 01:56:27.159 --> 01:56:29.119 can transfer their save data from the free to play 2484 01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:33.079 version by linking their Nintendo account. New features include leaf tokens, 2485 01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:36.439 camper cards, a complete item catalog, and a four year 2486 01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:39.479 event cycle. That's pretty good. This is pretty cool. I 2487 01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:42.199 guess it's a pretty neat thing. I'm glad that the 2488 01:56:42.239 --> 01:56:44.560 game will have a way to continue existing on despite 2489 01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:48.239 not having an online connection anymore. Yeah, and when it's 2490 01:56:48.279 --> 01:56:49.840 ten dollars, I'll probably just get It's just so I 2491 01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:50.199 can have it. 2492 01:56:50.279 --> 01:56:52.359 Yeah, this is an insanely cool thing for them to do. Yeah, 2493 01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:56.399 all online games that could theoretically support this should do this. 2494 01:56:56.640 --> 01:56:58.199 You know, It's not like they should have done with 2495 01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:01.479 drag Allia lost awesome because you know, just an RPG 2496 01:57:01.600 --> 01:57:04.600 you lost to time is a really weird thing to happen. 2497 01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:07.399 But you know, something that we've seen with our games, 2498 01:57:07.399 --> 01:57:11.720 like Dragon Quest that's ten, like getting the offline version 2499 01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:14.239 and then you know, I I would love to see 2500 01:57:14.279 --> 01:57:16.880 it with like Final Fantasy fourteen someday, you know, like 2501 01:57:16.920 --> 01:57:18.920 getting just an offline version of that way and just 2502 01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:20.600 run the single player stuff yourself. 2503 01:57:20.359 --> 01:57:23.720 Like you know, like I help that fire emblem heroes 2504 01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:26.239 get exactly done making content. 2505 01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:27.720 For that game, and more and more games are doing it, 2506 01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:30.760 like you know, uh Mega maat x Dive. You know, 2507 01:57:30.840 --> 01:57:32.800 regardless of how you feel about that game, is cool 2508 01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:35.600 that Capcom at least preserved it for nothing else, Like 2509 01:57:35.720 --> 01:57:39.800 preservation is important here as Age just standalone. You can 2510 01:57:39.880 --> 01:57:43.439 buy it one time, no micro transaction BS way to 2511 01:57:43.800 --> 01:57:45.279 you know, get back out to players. 2512 01:57:47.600 --> 01:57:51.319 Last story here PlayStation Players spends two thousand dollars on 2513 01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:54.319 twenty four years of PS plus to avoid price hikes. 2514 01:57:55.640 --> 01:57:59.560 Reddit user and called on Reddit in Class, has made 2515 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:02.479 the un conventional decision to spend two thousand dollars up 2516 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:05.880 front on PlayStation Plus for the next twenty four years 2517 01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:08.920 to avoid potential future price increases. They shared a screenshot 2518 01:58:09.359 --> 01:58:11.000 of the next time they're going to be charged, and 2519 01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:15.079 the date was twenty forty eight something. And the idea 2520 01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:17.800 here is spend the money now, and so if they 2521 01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:19.920 upgrade or if they increase the price, you don't have 2522 01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:23.079 to worry about that because you're locked in now. Do 2523 01:58:23.159 --> 01:58:25.560 you think PlayStation PlayStation Plus is still going to be 2524 01:58:25.640 --> 01:58:28.600 around in twenty four Yeah, you know. 2525 01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:30.880 I don't need to cast spurs. But will this person 2526 01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:33.279 be around until right? Yeah? 2527 01:58:33.439 --> 01:58:33.560 Right? 2528 01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:35.960 And this isn't some like commentary on like the state 2529 01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:37.920 of PlayStation but a lot of things can happen. Well, 2530 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.960 PlayStation should be around it twenty four years, agow No. 2531 01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:44.600 Right, it's like such a different world by then paying 2532 01:58:44.640 --> 01:58:48.439 for multiplayer may legitimately not exist in as soon as 2533 01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:49.720 like ten years or something. 2534 01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:52.079 Yeah, right, yeah, that could be like such a like 2535 01:58:52.199 --> 01:58:55.880 cause you know, if Steam is like just installable in 2536 01:58:55.920 --> 01:58:57.960 the next Xbox, that's going to change the way people 2537 01:58:58.000 --> 01:59:00.600 think about a lot of stuff very quickly. Akersoft won't 2538 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:02.279 be able to charge for online play when it comes 2539 01:59:02.319 --> 01:59:04.279 to Steam games on the Xbox, if that's how it's 2540 01:59:04.279 --> 01:59:06.760 gonna work, so they won't be able to charge it 2541 01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:09.000 for the Xbox games anymore. I would think. 2542 01:59:09.119 --> 01:59:14.119 So. Yeah, I love the extreme measures people will go 2543 01:59:14.359 --> 01:59:16.840 through to think that they are saving money in the 2544 01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:17.359 long run. 2545 01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:20.720 Some people buy a lifetime subscription to Star Trek Online 2546 01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:24.119 and just play that fort. 2547 01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:26.319 Jeff, Yeah, I could say there's a lot got back 2548 01:59:26.319 --> 01:59:27.760 when I used to talk to those people, they told me, 2549 01:59:27.960 --> 01:59:30.199 this is a lot of people's only game Star Trek Online, 2550 01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:31.800 the Star Trek sickos man. 2551 01:59:31.840 --> 01:59:35.680 You get them, you got like I had, No, they're 2552 01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:40.359 not friends nor acquaintances. People that I interacted with that 2553 01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:44.119 would go to Costco and load up on Apple gift 2554 01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:48.279 cards and like they'd spend like five hundred bucks because 2555 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:50.319 I think they got like an extra one hundred dollars 2556 01:59:50.399 --> 01:59:53.800 for quote unquote free and they would dump all of 2557 01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:55.239 that into Pokemon Go. 2558 01:59:55.960 --> 01:59:58.239 Oh okay. I was gonna say, if it was back 2559 01:59:58.279 --> 02:00:00.239 in the day and you were like buying soft and 2560 02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:02.560 movies and stuff over multiple years, I could see it, 2561 02:00:02.640 --> 02:00:03.359 but nope. 2562 02:00:03.279 --> 02:00:06.159 Nope, nope, no, you don't want to lose money on 2563 02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:06.640 this deal. 2564 02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:09.720 I am curious. Have you guys ever done anything like this, 2565 02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:12.399 because the only thing I think of is Best Buys 2566 02:00:12.479 --> 02:00:15.600 Gamers Club unlocked. You never believe I got five years 2567 02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:17.119 ago while they were still doing it. 2568 02:00:17.520 --> 02:00:20.359 My grocery store has a fuel perks right, so if 2569 02:00:20.399 --> 02:00:22.760 you when you buy groceries, you get like save ups 2570 02:00:22.800 --> 02:00:25.079 of money on gas at their gas station. Before I 2571 02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:28.720 go to Disney, I'll usually buy Disney gift cards there 2572 02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:31.479 and then I get the fuel for free for the buddy. 2573 02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:33.239 I was already gonna spend Itsney World. 2574 02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:37.119 I bought a lifetime subscription to Plex. I don't know 2575 02:00:37.119 --> 02:00:39.159 if they still offer that, but I got that so 2576 02:00:39.319 --> 02:00:41.159 I didn't have to worry about I'm just gonna have 2577 02:00:41.159 --> 02:00:43.239 all the features for forever, and I use Plex all 2578 02:00:43.279 --> 02:00:43.560 the time. 2579 02:00:43.640 --> 02:00:44.840 So yeah, I bought wind Rar. 2580 02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:48.560 That's the craziest thing I've ever heard anything. 2581 02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:50.920 I've never met someone who bought. 2582 02:00:53.520 --> 02:00:53.560 That. 2583 02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:55.520 Does it for the news. It's all the headlines I got. 2584 02:00:55.680 --> 02:00:57.399 Jan I'm handing the show back over to you, unless 2585 02:00:57.439 --> 02:00:59.399 hey didn't intend to announce the switch to while we're. 2586 02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:00.960 Doing that I wanted to make that joke. 2587 02:01:01.039 --> 02:01:01.399 No fair? 2588 02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:04.279 Sorry, what did get announced? Those that Mighty morphrom Power 2589 02:01:04.319 --> 02:01:05.600 Rangers readers rewind. 2590 02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:08.479 Is coming out. I did see that. I meant to 2591 02:01:08.560 --> 02:01:10.279 include that. Yeah, after my. 2592 02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:13.600 Birthday and folks, I filmed an interview what feels like 2593 02:01:13.680 --> 02:01:15.600 forever ago, and I swear to God, I'm gonna edit it. 2594 02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:17.319 It is going to come out a lot of fun 2595 02:01:17.359 --> 02:01:20.800 stuff in that interview. Uh, maybe still some announcements that 2596 02:01:20.880 --> 02:01:23.199 haven't been broken yet, and I swear to God is 2597 02:01:23.239 --> 02:01:25.960 going to come out just like I swear to God. 2598 02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:27.760 We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back 2599 02:01:27.800 --> 02:01:32.159 with the emails. Mighty morphin mister spot like Mighty Morphin 2600 02:01:32.279 --> 02:01:37.279 mister Spot. Wait, that's turtles. I feel like sometimes I 2601 02:01:37.399 --> 02:01:40.640 can't have a normal conversation with y'all because I feel like, no, 2602 02:01:40.840 --> 02:01:44.119 I should save this for content, And sometimes I think 2603 02:01:44.560 --> 02:01:48.520 about having another conversation with y'all, but no, that's like 2604 02:01:49.079 --> 02:01:52.079 Mike check stuff or that's post show we're about to 2605 02:01:52.199 --> 02:02:05.920 raid type of content. But anyway, Emails email Spotlight Imcast 2606 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:07.960 john bomb dot com is the email address to send 2607 02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:11.920 your emails to. You can send it anything in everything 2608 02:02:11.960 --> 02:02:14.319 you want our way, whether you have fun little quiz 2609 02:02:14.720 --> 02:02:16.960 you've made, or you got a query. You want to 2610 02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:19.680 treat us like a diary or treat us like a 2611 02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.800 Twitter machine. Please send your emails through. I read any 2612 02:02:22.920 --> 02:02:27.399 and everything. I also unsubscribe from all the dang newsletters 2613 02:02:27.439 --> 02:02:29.800 you sign us up to. Someone starts signing us up 2614 02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:34.600 for the Ohio obituaries. So I'm up to day who 2615 02:02:34.640 --> 02:02:37.239 had a seance for me at the Halloween party? I'm 2616 02:02:37.279 --> 02:02:44.800 worried mayhaps mayhaps dead? We all ask ourselves that question. 2617 02:02:46.920 --> 02:02:48.760 We're not actually podcasting my. 2618 02:02:51.279 --> 02:02:51.960 Oh this is like that. 2619 02:02:52.039 --> 02:03:01.079 Robin Williams movie Flubber. Yes, it's just like Flubber. First 2620 02:03:01.199 --> 02:03:08.159 email comes from Reg McFly dear BombCast. I'm a WWE 2621 02:03:08.319 --> 02:03:11.319 guy and my best friend is an AEW guy. We 2622 02:03:11.479 --> 02:03:15.439 both like each other shows. However, today I described him as. 2623 02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:18.600 A shoot mark. This is your fault. Love you all, 2624 02:03:18.800 --> 02:03:23.399 REGI McFly buck. Reg. Absolutely, it's our fault. Also, regimenc 2625 02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:25.640 fly sounds like a name if a fly was pretending 2626 02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:26.199 to be a person. 2627 02:03:26.319 --> 02:03:29.079 I like it, but it sounds like I don't. I 2628 02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:31.640 don't remember what the name of Marty McFly's older brother is. 2629 02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:33.199 In beck To the future. But if he told me 2630 02:03:33.239 --> 02:03:35.279 it was Reg McFly, I'd be like, that sounds right. 2631 02:03:35.479 --> 02:03:35.680 Yeah. 2632 02:03:38.560 --> 02:03:42.399 Travis from Fargo normally dominates or has dominated the email 2633 02:03:42.439 --> 02:03:44.920 section for the past month or so because of their 2634 02:03:45.000 --> 02:03:50.359 rapid fire questions. Now emailer Jared has gone in on 2635 02:03:50.760 --> 02:03:52.760 the mix and provided a bunch of rapid. 2636 02:03:52.560 --> 02:03:55.840 Fire questions real quick? Can I can I out Travis? 2637 02:03:56.319 --> 02:04:01.119 Sure what he's doing? The thing where he Yeah, he 2638 02:04:01.199 --> 02:04:03.800 writes those emails. He sends it o to all the podcasts, 2639 02:04:03.840 --> 02:04:06.520 And I heard the same round of questions on the 2640 02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:14.319 next Lander podcast. This email bus, Harlot, this tramp out 2641 02:04:14.359 --> 02:04:18.239 there just sending emails. Anybody will have this? All right? 2642 02:04:18.319 --> 02:04:21.399 Well, I'm deleting a good chuckle these email Travis. 2643 02:04:21.520 --> 02:04:24.920 You hurt my feelings, Travis. I thought we had. 2644 02:04:24.840 --> 02:04:28.840 Something, Jared writes. Jared from Everett writes in my two 2645 02:04:28.960 --> 02:04:31.760 cats like to eat pastries. If I left a croissant out, 2646 02:04:31.880 --> 02:04:34.359 the older one could easily scarf down a third of 2647 02:04:34.399 --> 02:04:36.920 it before I could stop him. The younger would just 2648 02:04:37.039 --> 02:04:40.520 unwrap it like a TUTSI roll. My question, would you 2649 02:04:40.560 --> 02:04:42.760 still eat a croissant or other pastry if your pet 2650 02:04:42.840 --> 02:04:43.960 took a little nibble. 2651 02:04:45.159 --> 02:04:49.720 Cam Mouse are really dirty? Yes? Would I could I 2652 02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:53.239 break off like the touched part and like just like 2653 02:04:53.359 --> 02:05:02.039 create a new then probably now, No, we're not I 2654 02:05:02.239 --> 02:05:02.439 do it. 2655 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:07.479 I trust my dog if it Scout's clean and yeah no. 2656 02:05:07.680 --> 02:05:11.079 See the thing is, my freaking dog has pretty privilege, 2657 02:05:11.199 --> 02:05:13.479 and we all know that's the thing with people. 2658 02:05:13.640 --> 02:05:15.439 It's actually the nat dogs. 2659 02:05:15.560 --> 02:05:19.800 Yeah, yes, Like if Scout likes to like kind of 2660 02:05:19.880 --> 02:05:23.319 hug people or jump on people, and if Scout was 2661 02:05:23.399 --> 02:05:27.359 maybe a bigger dog, people would think I'm a terrible owner. Uh. 2662 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:29.479 Instead they're like, oh my god, this cute little core 2663 02:05:29.600 --> 02:05:30.439 he wants to hug me. 2664 02:05:32.079 --> 02:05:32.279 Yeah. 2665 02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:36.680 Uh, Jared's Jared. If I find out you're freaking two 2666 02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:41.880 timing us on these card doing emails, they write in again, 2667 02:05:42.159 --> 02:05:44.800 what Pokemon would make a cool sports team mascot and 2668 02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:45.880 what sport would it be? 2669 02:05:47.880 --> 02:05:52.920 Squirtle for water polo that's okay, or like a suicide Town. 2670 02:05:53.039 --> 02:05:56.840 Blazer kin for soccer because you know it's got those 2671 02:05:56.920 --> 02:06:00.520 kicking legs. Sender race is a boring answer about. 2672 02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:04.560 What about hit m on Lee for soccer? 2673 02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:07.840 Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of kick hards, 2674 02:06:08.039 --> 02:06:08.199 you know. 2675 02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:13.239 I I bet Sprigetito is already on stickers for like edibles. 2676 02:06:13.520 --> 02:06:16.960 Absolutely, yeah, that's my kind of sports. 2677 02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:21.439 Dan, all right? If weed selling? 2678 02:06:24.279 --> 02:06:24.640 All right? 2679 02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:27.319 Jared also had a question for Dan, but Dan's not here, 2680 02:06:27.720 --> 02:06:30.840 I'll read it anyway. The discussion discussion about Dan and 2681 02:06:30.920 --> 02:06:33.720 metaphors made me think about how it blow Dan's mind 2682 02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:36.319 to read Roland Barth's Death of the Author. How has 2683 02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:38.560 he not already? I'd love to hear his take on that, Jared. 2684 02:06:38.560 --> 02:06:39.399 Remember it would. 2685 02:06:39.239 --> 02:06:43.119 Blow Dan's mind to listen to himself talk about something. Yeah, 2686 02:06:43.279 --> 02:06:45.399 you know it does. That's why he is the way 2687 02:06:45.479 --> 02:06:48.279 he is. Someone posted in a discord the other day 2688 02:06:48.520 --> 02:06:52.279 about an older Giant Bomb video where Dan says, yeah, 2689 02:06:52.399 --> 02:06:54.560 people who just like really use the wrestling lingo all 2690 02:06:54.600 --> 02:06:58.000 the time are so insufferable. I can't say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 2691 02:06:58.079 --> 02:07:02.119 he definitely said that in the past. Yeah that's God. 2692 02:07:02.359 --> 02:07:04.239 Look at the growth then folks. 2693 02:07:05.760 --> 02:07:06.720 In the wrong direction. 2694 02:07:07.359 --> 02:07:09.800 If someone's to send in like did Dan say this 2695 02:07:10.039 --> 02:07:12.920 or not? Oh, that's quiz that could be a fun one. 2696 02:07:12.960 --> 02:07:14.600 Maybe we maybe they would do that sometimes. 2697 02:07:14.680 --> 02:07:18.560 I still want to is it a metal gear or metaphory? 2698 02:07:18.600 --> 02:07:19.560 Fantasio quote? 2699 02:07:19.640 --> 02:07:24.279 Quick you'll hear people are still playing them the day 2700 02:07:24.359 --> 02:07:25.119 on fire Escape. 2701 02:07:25.239 --> 02:07:27.800 I was really I've been hated any fire Escape for 2702 02:07:28.079 --> 02:07:29.479 my travels on Fridays. 2703 02:07:29.560 --> 02:07:30.239 Okay, gotcha. 2704 02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:31.159 Well you're in a. 2705 02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:35.560 You're you're in a blood feud with Mike Maharty as 2706 02:07:35.560 --> 02:07:38.000 far as the emails are concerned, that people are talking 2707 02:07:38.000 --> 02:07:40.000 about y'all really like Mike. 2708 02:07:40.319 --> 02:07:40.760 No, no, no. 2709 02:07:41.840 --> 02:07:43.800 I feel terrible to actually call him Matt, but I 2710 02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:45.359 love I was gonna say, who's Mike? 2711 02:07:45.439 --> 02:07:46.199 What are you talking about? 2712 02:07:47.279 --> 02:07:50.159 I only know three mics in my life, all right, shocking? 2713 02:07:51.359 --> 02:07:54.239 Uh, you know so many white people? How is that possible? 2714 02:07:54.359 --> 02:07:55.279 Yeah, how's that possible? 2715 02:07:56.479 --> 02:07:56.600 Uh? 2716 02:07:57.039 --> 02:08:02.800 Next email comes from Cosmo so white Italian. As Halloween 2717 02:08:02.920 --> 02:08:05.479 is around the corner. It's the time of the year 2718 02:08:05.479 --> 02:08:08.439 where I secretly manipulate my six year old into picking 2719 02:08:08.479 --> 02:08:12.680 the costumes that I already bought for our family. This year, 2720 02:08:12.800 --> 02:08:15.199 he will be linked so I can began endorf my wife, 2721 02:08:15.319 --> 02:08:18.680 Zelda and my almost two year old daughter of a coblin. 2722 02:08:19.039 --> 02:08:19.239 Yeah. 2723 02:08:19.399 --> 02:08:23.159 Yeah, I started him on Ockerina of Time, indisputably the 2724 02:08:23.199 --> 02:08:25.840 best starting point. When he got to Queen Goma, he 2725 02:08:25.960 --> 02:08:28.520 was a little scared, but my daughter was fine. However, 2726 02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:31.720 after the fight, when the Decu Tree started talking, she 2727 02:08:31.960 --> 02:08:35.359 freaked out and was crying hysterically. This is pretty much 2728 02:08:35.359 --> 02:08:37.800 her first time ever getting scared, and it was obviously 2729 02:08:37.880 --> 02:08:40.119 a little confusing. I picked her up and told her 2730 02:08:40.199 --> 02:08:42.439 it was just a tree. But after the tri force 2731 02:08:42.520 --> 02:08:45.319 cutscene ended and the Decu Tree was on screen again, 2732 02:08:45.479 --> 02:08:48.520 she began quietly sobbing and whispering to herself. 2733 02:08:48.600 --> 02:08:52.680 Tree, Oh my god, that's so cute. She's tried to 2734 02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:55.079 calm herself down to say it's just a tree. Oh 2735 02:08:55.159 --> 02:08:55.600 my god. 2736 02:08:56.079 --> 02:08:58.640 I have two questions for Dan the resident child Expert. 2737 02:09:00.039 --> 02:09:02.039 Don't worry, we have a father on the team. He 2738 02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:03.159 can actually address this. 2739 02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:05.720 Yeah, Mike, I got this. 2740 02:09:05.840 --> 02:09:08.319 Don't worry. Secret families are still families, all right. Yeah, 2741 02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:12.000 how do I prevent my daughter from being afraid of trees? 2742 02:09:12.399 --> 02:09:15.439 And Two? What's the scariest fictional tree I could show her? 2743 02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:19.960 Thanks Cosmo, I think that that tree with the hanging 2744 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:23.800 skeletons on him from Nightmare four Christmas is kind of scary. Sure, sure, 2745 02:09:24.760 --> 02:09:27.720 I think that astrobot tree can kind of be a 2746 02:09:27.800 --> 02:09:30.359 little weird and off put off. Yeah, he's so sweet. 2747 02:09:30.600 --> 02:09:32.880 In Tears of the Kingdom when you are just going 2748 02:09:32.920 --> 02:09:34.520 through a forest and one of the trees come to 2749 02:09:34.600 --> 02:09:38.279 life and start chasing you. Oh that that got my 2750 02:09:38.479 --> 02:09:40.159 like my both my daughters are playing that right now 2751 02:09:40.239 --> 02:09:41.920 and both of them are like, I hate these trees. 2752 02:09:42.000 --> 02:09:44.079 Yeah, dude, that scared me the first I saw them, 2753 02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:46.239 because it came come offscreen behind me. I was like, 2754 02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:47.279 why is the tree movie? 2755 02:09:47.760 --> 02:09:49.319 Yeah, it's kind of terrifying. 2756 02:09:49.439 --> 02:09:52.279 Yeah, snowy seven drawers have scary trees. Harry Potter has 2757 02:09:52.319 --> 02:09:54.720 the Womping Willow, which is a tree that will kill 2758 02:09:54.760 --> 02:09:56.319 anybody it comes near it, and they're just like, Oh, 2759 02:09:56.359 --> 02:09:58.199 should put this next to the school for children? 2760 02:09:58.319 --> 02:10:04.880 Yeah, there's a lot of Harry Potter is so fucking stupid, 2761 02:10:06.159 --> 02:10:06.800 and I hear that. 2762 02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:09.199 He had to think about it like less than one 2763 02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:12.640 layer deeper to get so stupid, And like I liked that. 2764 02:10:12.960 --> 02:10:17.199 I liked to like that franchise. Still, it's so fucking stupid. 2765 02:10:18.439 --> 02:10:22.319 Are so fucking dumb. You have all the magic in 2766 02:10:22.399 --> 02:10:25.560 the world and you're still gonna look like an unhoused 2767 02:10:25.640 --> 02:10:26.560 person all the time. 2768 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:31.520 You fucking can create anything with the power of fucking 2769 02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:34.680 magic and you live in a fucking shack. 2770 02:10:35.239 --> 02:10:38.760 Why does serious black look like we can't do this right. 2771 02:10:38.920 --> 02:10:43.199 Anybody who wants which which media should be watching Disney's 2772 02:10:43.279 --> 02:10:46.119 Owl House show that ended last year instead. 2773 02:10:46.119 --> 02:10:47.399 Or Agatha all along. 2774 02:10:47.600 --> 02:10:50.840 It's very good, it's very gay. And you did like that? Okay, yeah, 2775 02:10:51.079 --> 02:10:52.399 I'm gonna watch it. 2776 02:10:52.640 --> 02:10:54.680 I love the random things kids get afraid of. I 2777 02:10:54.720 --> 02:10:57.640 remember the miz was in town at our kmart at 2778 02:10:57.640 --> 02:10:58.399 the time before. 2779 02:10:58.239 --> 02:11:00.319 Those kids they're afraid of the maze. Yeah. 2780 02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:02.039 So it was like this like three year old kid 2781 02:11:02.359 --> 02:11:05.640 with us, right, and because he watched them wrestling, so 2782 02:11:05.720 --> 02:11:07.279 he just had in his mind that the miss was 2783 02:11:07.359 --> 02:11:11.239 going to attack him. He's like me, so like, hey, 2784 02:11:11.279 --> 02:11:13.239 you can't talk a bunch and just kept going no miss. 2785 02:11:13.159 --> 02:11:21.159 No miss, miss, like no please? Now, So, how do 2786 02:11:21.199 --> 02:11:23.680 you print prevent your daughter from being afraid of trees 2787 02:11:24.319 --> 02:11:26.920 down in front of her? Yeah, a certain. 2788 02:11:27.359 --> 02:11:30.760 Tree, yes, kill the trees show show your daughter like 2789 02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:35.640 a wild fire happening just like an YouTube video. 2790 02:11:36.039 --> 02:11:39.399 Do you think reading when reading the giving tree help 2791 02:11:39.479 --> 02:11:42.279 or hurt? That might make you like humans less? 2792 02:11:42.359 --> 02:11:45.000 But maybe it just like age too, you know, like 2793 02:11:45.119 --> 02:11:47.520 after he's a little mora, okay, of the trees, you know. 2794 02:11:49.439 --> 02:11:51.640 Which were the rings you're like trees, watch the two. 2795 02:11:51.560 --> 02:11:53.720 Taps subject child the Lord of the Rings. 2796 02:11:54.199 --> 02:12:00.199 Oh my god, sure safe Dan was in here. Some 2797 02:12:00.319 --> 02:12:02.560 of these emails actually ask for dantas. 2798 02:12:02.640 --> 02:12:03.239 I have an email. 2799 02:12:03.760 --> 02:12:04.279 What through it? 2800 02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:06.880 Well, somebody sent me an email that they wanted me 2801 02:12:06.960 --> 02:12:07.640 to read on the show. 2802 02:12:08.039 --> 02:12:09.359 No no, no, no no no no no no no 2803 02:12:09.439 --> 02:12:12.479 no no interesting, go for it, go for excuse me. 2804 02:12:13.439 --> 02:12:16.720 The email section is not for other people to read 2805 02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:17.600 their emails. 2806 02:12:17.760 --> 02:12:20.079 You just can't run willy nilly over the show. I 2807 02:12:20.359 --> 02:12:20.600 like this. 2808 02:12:21.079 --> 02:12:26.319 Give mikey a Mike Yeah, Sean said, it's okay. I said, hey, Mike. 2809 02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:29.119 Jeff from Quebec care breaking the emails met up by 2810 02:12:29.199 --> 02:12:32.600 asking you to interrupt Jan's email segment with a surprise 2811 02:12:32.800 --> 02:12:36.399 edition from your personal invice. My question is what do 2812 02:12:36.479 --> 02:12:40.359 you think is the most widely unused gaming peripheral gathering 2813 02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:44.319 dust and basements. I vote for the WE balance board 2814 02:12:44.920 --> 02:12:48.079 cheer No, because that would imply that a lot of 2815 02:12:48.119 --> 02:12:50.359 people kept their WE balance boards and based off the 2816 02:12:50.439 --> 02:12:52.680 thrift store I visit on a weekly basis. 2817 02:12:52.640 --> 02:12:53.159 Yeah, uh. 2818 02:12:53.560 --> 02:12:57.600 There they go from having one to twelve WE balance 2819 02:12:57.680 --> 02:12:59.960 boards in the span of a week. So people are 2820 02:13:00.039 --> 02:13:02.800 getting rid of those sports too big, right, So it's 2821 02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:05.319 like you like, people are like thinking about it, so 2822 02:13:05.399 --> 02:13:05.640 they do. 2823 02:13:05.720 --> 02:13:07.159 Get rid of it. There's got to be like a 2824 02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:10.600 layer below that where it's small enough to ignore and 2825 02:13:10.680 --> 02:13:12.399 you just let it sit around. It's got to be 2826 02:13:12.479 --> 02:13:15.319 the guitar Hero controllers, right, going to say the drum 2827 02:13:15.399 --> 02:13:17.039 set for some reason. 2828 02:13:17.079 --> 02:13:20.800 For me specifically, I imagine the DJ Hero like mixed 2829 02:13:20.840 --> 02:13:23.119 controller thing, which is kind of big and heavy. But 2830 02:13:23.159 --> 02:13:25.800 it's like, I don't think many people bothered selling it 2831 02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:29.880 because it seemed more premium than a we fitbout sports, Like. 2832 02:13:29.840 --> 02:13:31.600 Why god, I get I gotta keep this thing, and 2833 02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:34.079 it ruled, But what the hell are you gonna. 2834 02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:35.399 Do with Well? Speaking of fitness, do you think we're 2835 02:13:35.479 --> 02:13:37.920 already at the point where it could be ring fit 2836 02:13:38.359 --> 02:13:38.920 Ring Sure? 2837 02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:41.000 Sure, yeah, I like that thing. I still like, I 2838 02:13:41.199 --> 02:13:42.640 don't play the game ever, but I use it for 2839 02:13:42.800 --> 02:13:45.399 like just like getting those muscles in the back going s. 2840 02:13:45.640 --> 02:13:49.399 It's handy. But uh, yeah, it could be. They sold 2841 02:13:49.399 --> 02:13:50.359 a ton of copies too. 2842 02:13:50.920 --> 02:13:55.560 Oh Pizver too and the original Pizver, but they they 2843 02:13:55.560 --> 02:13:56.960 did sell very many of those. 2844 02:13:59.039 --> 02:14:01.159 Hero I know it some success, but I'm. 2845 02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:07.520 Not sure crazy unopened connect oh sick. Yeah, just then 2846 02:14:07.520 --> 02:14:10.279 they're they're threatening to give it to me, so I'll connect. 2847 02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:12.880 It would probably be Connect. 2848 02:14:14.119 --> 02:14:17.319 Specifically the connects that came with Xbox One by default 2849 02:14:17.399 --> 02:14:17.880 for a while. 2850 02:14:18.079 --> 02:14:22.039 Yeah, three sixty because that sold like gang Busters in 2851 02:14:23.000 --> 02:14:25.760 but nobody has Connect set up anymore. 2852 02:14:26.560 --> 02:14:28.000 Is it actually just the mebos? 2853 02:14:30.039 --> 02:14:30.680 I wouldn't say. 2854 02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:32.520 I don't know if that's a peripheral. 2855 02:14:33.279 --> 02:14:35.439 I would even say, just like every asshole in the air, 2856 02:14:35.479 --> 02:14:37.439 and it has them like displayed in their background for 2857 02:14:37.479 --> 02:14:40.079 their zoom calls, you know, like my tough off for there. 2858 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:44.399 You can't see mine, okay there Skylanders. Skylanders are definitely 2859 02:14:44.479 --> 02:14:45.079 collecting dust. 2860 02:14:45.239 --> 02:14:46.479 They go horizons. 2861 02:14:47.159 --> 02:14:50.680 Man, if anyone's got skylight horizons, who are you talking about? 2862 02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:53.840 By I want to get my kids in the skylanders. 2863 02:14:53.880 --> 02:14:56.399 That'd be fun. Simire a lot. I'll give you money 2864 02:14:56.640 --> 02:14:58.920 my U again. The kids are playing Zelda, so they 2865 02:14:58.960 --> 02:15:00.800 keep seeing some mebo log on the powers like what 2866 02:15:01.000 --> 02:15:02.960 is this? And I have like one or two ambos 2867 02:15:02.960 --> 02:15:05.880 setting around and I showed them and now they're like, hey, 2868 02:15:05.880 --> 02:15:07.760 maybe you should get more of these. I don't know. 2869 02:15:08.279 --> 02:15:10.279 I can't become one of the amoebo people. 2870 02:15:10.840 --> 02:15:11.399 It's fine. 2871 02:15:11.600 --> 02:15:12.439 But everybody. 2872 02:15:12.560 --> 02:15:15.079 Does everybody have a favorite Amibo now that you've got 2873 02:15:15.199 --> 02:15:15.840 so many of them? 2874 02:15:16.079 --> 02:15:17.720 I got too Link and I love that one. It's 2875 02:15:17.760 --> 02:15:21.000 my favorite. Excuse me, Link's Awakening Link. 2876 02:15:21.199 --> 02:15:23.560 I only have one Amobo and that's thanks to friend 2877 02:15:23.560 --> 02:15:26.720 of the site Mike O'Leary shouts out for the Sora Ambo. 2878 02:15:27.119 --> 02:15:29.119 Yeah, oh yeah, I tell you, I forgot that's out. 2879 02:15:29.159 --> 02:15:31.079 I want to get so ridiculous. It's just like how 2880 02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:35.319 I love the Joker Ambo because I'm like, that shouldn't exist. Really, 2881 02:15:36.520 --> 02:15:40.079 I have every Metroid ambo, and then like the one 2882 02:15:40.119 --> 02:15:41.800 that I think is really cool is my friend Gat 2883 02:15:41.840 --> 02:15:44.960 Waring for my birthday one year. It's the the Rockman 2884 02:15:45.119 --> 02:15:49.800 eleven Ambo because the only, yeah, the only way who 2885 02:15:49.880 --> 02:15:52.920 gets a standalone like ambo package is by getting the 2886 02:15:53.039 --> 02:15:55.359 Japanese one here in the US. It just came in 2887 02:15:55.439 --> 02:15:57.119 that bundle with a legacy collection. 2888 02:15:57.640 --> 02:16:00.600 Yeah, and I have a I have that one in 2889 02:16:00.720 --> 02:16:03.199 the collection, and I have I really like the Smash 2890 02:16:03.239 --> 02:16:04.640 Brothers Megan Man one. I just like the way that 2891 02:16:04.680 --> 02:16:08.199 one looks. But that Simon Belmont Smash Brothers. 2892 02:16:08.640 --> 02:16:12.159 So many did did y'all take them the packaging or 2893 02:16:12.199 --> 02:16:14.199 did you keep them in? I took him out, took 2894 02:16:14.239 --> 02:16:16.560 him out, Okay, I took I had a few initially 2895 02:16:16.720 --> 02:16:19.600 that I, oh my god, Jeff has a labo Labbo. 2896 02:16:19.640 --> 02:16:25.319 Labola labbo yea is this well? First of all, Labbo 2897 02:16:25.399 --> 02:16:28.680 is way better. But no, he's a labbo collecting dust? 2898 02:16:28.760 --> 02:16:30.119 Or is it just too easy to throw away? 2899 02:16:30.319 --> 02:16:31.319 I think people threw it out? 2900 02:16:32.920 --> 02:16:34.319 Oh yeah, admit it. 2901 02:16:34.639 --> 02:16:36.520 You You would love to throw that thing into like 2902 02:16:36.559 --> 02:16:38.159 the middle of a bonfire and just kind of see 2903 02:16:38.200 --> 02:16:39.000 it what happens? 2904 02:16:39.120 --> 02:16:42.040 Right, Yeah, I'm satisfying, feel bad, but would it would 2905 02:16:42.079 --> 02:16:44.360 be like exciting? How bad I feel? Yeah? 2906 02:16:44.680 --> 02:16:46.920 Literally aside, I want toss into the middle of a 2907 02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:49.239 lake so bad? Just watch a slowly stink. 2908 02:16:49.920 --> 02:16:53.600 Yeah. Back at the SF Studio, amidst all the moves 2909 02:16:53.680 --> 02:16:56.840 we had, I played that game of should I keep 2910 02:16:56.920 --> 02:16:58.159 this labbo piano? 2911 02:16:59.319 --> 02:17:03.040 Labbo piano? It's like so intricate, it's kind of one 2912 02:17:03.079 --> 02:17:05.680 thing worth keeping. Although I tried to keep mine with 2913 02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:07.879 like a two year old around, and so they destroyed it. 2914 02:17:08.079 --> 02:17:12.920 Yeah, you know, sort of sprout, Oh yeah, Ji'll give 2915 02:17:12.920 --> 02:17:14.200 the show back to you. And I want to clarify, 2916 02:17:14.239 --> 02:17:15.920 don't don't anybody ever do that to me again? 2917 02:17:17.639 --> 02:17:18.639 Mike and I apart. 2918 02:17:20.879 --> 02:17:25.479 I already went through the heartbreak of Travis two timing 2919 02:17:25.600 --> 02:17:26.440 me okay. 2920 02:17:28.239 --> 02:17:30.280 Segment for jam Do you I don't have the heart 2921 02:17:30.319 --> 02:17:32.559 to tell next Lander that that's what happened, because they'll 2922 02:17:32.600 --> 02:17:33.520 be just as heartbroken. 2923 02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:37.200 Do you think that Jared from Everett is just Travis. 2924 02:17:37.079 --> 02:17:43.079 Like talented mister Ripley situation. I don't know what that means, 2925 02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:44.239 but that's probably what's happening. 2926 02:17:44.479 --> 02:17:47.079 I thought Travis had a good round up of emails 2927 02:17:47.159 --> 02:17:50.000 this week, and I included them. Now I'm not going 2928 02:17:50.079 --> 02:17:54.879 to read them Travis Penalty Box, but how good are they? 2929 02:17:55.440 --> 02:17:57.639 They were pretty good. I was like, this, this is 2930 02:17:57.719 --> 02:18:03.600 good podcast discussion stuff, all right, last two emails? Yes, 2931 02:18:03.760 --> 02:18:07.879 this one is about jeans and things that you like. Hey, y'all, 2932 02:18:08.239 --> 02:18:11.000 the company I've bought jeans from for the last decade 2933 02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:14.120 started putting elastic in their jeans, making them less durable. 2934 02:18:14.479 --> 02:18:16.559 Did I check to see if they had some regular jeens? 2935 02:18:16.719 --> 02:18:17.719 Did I switch brands? 2936 02:18:18.040 --> 02:18:18.239 Nah? 2937 02:18:18.559 --> 02:18:22.239 Fuck that, I'm a raw denim freak. Now I'm making 2938 02:18:22.360 --> 02:18:25.239 a clothes ladder where I can track how many wears 2939 02:18:25.280 --> 02:18:28.479 a pair has since I watched it. I'm watching Mustache 2940 02:18:28.559 --> 02:18:33.399 men explain salvage and different kinds of looms. I like suck, 2941 02:18:33.760 --> 02:18:36.120 and the people who like what I like suck, does 2942 02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:40.280 that mean I suck? Thank goodness, I've got giant bomb 2943 02:18:40.360 --> 02:18:43.399 to keep me cool. Joe and Michigan Joe, come come 2944 02:18:43.479 --> 02:18:51.760 real close, Come close, Joe. I know I was kind 2945 02:18:51.760 --> 02:18:53.959 of poop pooing on the dude that spent two thousand 2946 02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:58.159 bucks to get Hella PlayStation plus years huge. Here's what 2947 02:18:58.280 --> 02:19:00.440 you do, big dog. You save all all the money 2948 02:19:00.479 --> 02:19:03.600 that you're gonna buy buying salvage denim. You get yourself 2949 02:19:03.719 --> 02:19:06.120 the cheapest ticket you can get to Japan, and then 2950 02:19:06.159 --> 02:19:08.239 once you're in Japan, you go to Ginza, and then 2951 02:19:08.280 --> 02:19:10.719 at Ginza you go to Henoya and you tell them 2952 02:19:10.799 --> 02:19:14.239 you know me, and they'll be confused and politely smile along. 2953 02:19:14.719 --> 02:19:16.639 And then you tell them you know Alex Bonyelo and 2954 02:19:16.680 --> 02:19:21.079 they're like, oh, the actor, And then you you load 2955 02:19:21.239 --> 02:19:23.920 up on fucking jeans. I know, I know Gersman and 2956 02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:26.200 the old gang used to talk about the raid in 2957 02:19:26.319 --> 02:19:28.879 Japan getting hell of shit. Now the new raid dog 2958 02:19:29.360 --> 02:19:33.600 is exploiting the yen right now and getting exploit the 2959 02:19:34.040 --> 02:19:38.680 getting Hella raw denim and buddy, my friend Joe Joe 2960 02:19:38.719 --> 02:19:40.360 in Michigan. This is what you gotta do. 2961 02:19:40.600 --> 02:19:40.799 Dog. 2962 02:19:41.079 --> 02:19:43.559 They got all the different cuts, all the cuts, all 2963 02:19:43.600 --> 02:19:45.719 the brands that are too expensive out here. You don't 2964 02:19:45.719 --> 02:19:48.159 want to be spending five to six racks for a 2965 02:19:48.239 --> 02:19:51.159 pair of jeans, but you might. Maybe someone you listen 2966 02:19:51.200 --> 02:19:55.399 to has also poisoned their finances by buying too much denim. 2967 02:19:55.559 --> 02:19:58.079 And maybe I got the hank ring to buy more denim. 2968 02:19:58.520 --> 02:20:01.120 Uh, that's what you can google what nim raw. 2969 02:20:02.440 --> 02:20:04.520 It's gonna be better to go to Japan and get 2970 02:20:04.559 --> 02:20:06.079 your denim. Just do it, dog. 2971 02:20:06.600 --> 02:20:07.000 Anyway. 2972 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:07.559 Uh. 2973 02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:10.000 Their question was if things I like suck and the 2974 02:20:10.040 --> 02:20:12.799 people who like what I like suck, does that mean 2975 02:20:12.879 --> 02:20:14.840 I suck? Is that the transit of property? 2976 02:20:15.040 --> 02:20:17.559 Yeah, I mean yeah kind of. That's how it works. 2977 02:20:17.840 --> 02:20:19.799 You become the average of the five people around you. 2978 02:20:19.920 --> 02:20:21.639 You could become the average of the five things you're 2979 02:20:21.639 --> 02:20:25.959 super into. Probably, yeah, that's that's probably fair. I'm sorry, 2980 02:20:26.520 --> 02:20:27.000 but you suck. 2981 02:20:27.120 --> 02:20:29.200 I was gonna say no, but I also don't like 2982 02:20:29.239 --> 02:20:30.159 to think about it much. 2983 02:20:31.079 --> 02:20:31.600 Mike sucks. 2984 02:20:38.159 --> 02:20:47.840 Would Wait a minute. One of them is in here 2985 02:20:47.959 --> 02:20:50.719 right now, and I've been told that he sucks. 2986 02:20:52.440 --> 02:20:52.559 Yo. 2987 02:20:52.760 --> 02:20:54.600 Also, if you go to Japan, you could make your 2988 02:20:54.639 --> 02:20:56.840 own jeans at a store dog so you can get 2989 02:20:56.879 --> 02:20:59.520 the rivets. However, a build a bear like a build 2990 02:20:59.559 --> 02:21:02.719 a bear, it is gees. I get too excited talking 2991 02:21:02.719 --> 02:21:05.200 about denim. I think I almost poisoned Nicky's brain into 2992 02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:06.559 getting into salvage denim as well. 2993 02:21:08.120 --> 02:21:11.040 Okay, we're not saying salvage denim. 2994 02:21:11.600 --> 02:21:13.479 No, what are we saying? 2995 02:21:13.799 --> 02:21:19.239 Salvage sounds like a metal, sounds like a man. 2996 02:21:20.239 --> 02:21:26.360 Salvage sell s e l V from the Salvage Illinois, 2997 02:21:26.479 --> 02:21:27.200 Like what's happening? 2998 02:21:27.360 --> 02:21:30.879 Like no, no, no, it is like raw denhim. It's 2999 02:21:30.920 --> 02:21:33.559 also like, uh, it's not mass manufacturers. 3000 02:21:33.639 --> 02:21:38.000 So there's like, oh my god, this term from self finished. 3001 02:21:39.159 --> 02:21:44.879 It's some salvage bro Okay, hate it so much. 3002 02:21:46.719 --> 02:21:49.319 It pains me inside that I left my most recent 3003 02:21:49.440 --> 02:21:53.680 pair and the pair that fits me fantastic at Nicky's place, 3004 02:21:54.239 --> 02:21:57.559 and I desperately need Nikki to freaking bail it to 3005 02:21:57.680 --> 02:22:00.680 be already yesterday should mean. 3006 02:22:00.600 --> 02:22:03.159 It's like it's in self finished. Does this mean it's 3007 02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:06.719 not broken in? And that's the thing. Hold on, I'll 3008 02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:10.520 be right back. Okay, he's gonna because I like. 3009 02:22:10.600 --> 02:22:11.799 The elastics. 3010 02:22:14.440 --> 02:22:15.520 More elastic. 3011 02:22:16.680 --> 02:22:20.440 I'm a bit Rubenesque, so more elastic and everything, please. 3012 02:22:20.879 --> 02:22:22.680 Yeah, the white fluctuates so yeah. 3013 02:22:22.680 --> 02:22:28.159 He Also it's like you know that it was a 3014 02:22:28.280 --> 02:22:31.079 huge advance, like when they started stonewashing jeans, so they 3015 02:22:31.319 --> 02:22:33.319 came broken in and I don't have to worry about 3016 02:22:33.399 --> 02:22:35.079 that and all these tricks are like no, I'll do 3017 02:22:35.239 --> 02:22:36.040 it myself. 3018 02:22:36.879 --> 02:22:39.760 Okay, yo, Okay, I don't know what you were talking about, 3019 02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:41.639 but I'm gonna assume you guys were talking about how 3020 02:22:41.680 --> 02:22:44.799 there's a resale value for salvage denim. And I'm not 3021 02:22:44.959 --> 02:22:47.120 saying that I have made money based off of this 3022 02:22:47.319 --> 02:22:49.120 because I wear my clothes. 3023 02:22:48.799 --> 02:22:50.680 The arbitrage salvage denim. 3024 02:22:51.200 --> 02:22:53.719 But there are those people out there that want to 3025 02:22:53.760 --> 02:22:57.719 wear work wear like car Hard, Ben Davis et etched, 3026 02:22:58.319 --> 02:23:00.360 but they don't want to do the work of breaking 3027 02:23:00.399 --> 02:23:03.399 the clothes in, so they will buy second hand Selvis 3028 02:23:03.559 --> 02:23:07.479 denim because they want them sick fades all right. 3029 02:23:07.559 --> 02:23:11.280 Again, Like we do have like industrial processes for breaking 3030 02:23:11.360 --> 02:23:13.719 in jeans now, but people don't like that. 3031 02:23:14.239 --> 02:23:17.200 Because what if you broke them down based off of 3032 02:23:17.319 --> 02:23:17.879 your life? 3033 02:23:18.639 --> 02:23:22.680 Right? Okay, I see what's happening here. Organic jeans. Okay, 3034 02:23:22.760 --> 02:23:25.959 you could have just said that jeans, baby. 3035 02:23:26.200 --> 02:23:29.799 See Okay, yeah, look, jan you can have your thing. 3036 02:23:29.920 --> 02:23:31.639 More part to you, buddy. If I'm just in here 3037 02:23:31.719 --> 02:23:34.079 thinking about how I went to the store on like 3038 02:23:34.399 --> 02:23:37.319 Sunday to get my thirty dollars old navy skinny jeans, 3039 02:23:37.399 --> 02:23:38.639 I was very happy with that. 3040 02:23:38.719 --> 02:23:41.000 I'll pick them a parrot Meyer the next time I 3041 02:23:41.120 --> 02:23:41.440 need one. 3042 02:23:41.600 --> 02:23:44.200 Yeah, yo, okay, all right, all right, so here's two pairs. 3043 02:23:44.239 --> 02:23:46.120 This is going to play very poorly for the audio 3044 02:23:46.200 --> 02:23:48.959 listeners at home, but we got one pair of jeans here. 3045 02:23:49.159 --> 02:23:52.000 This is still relatively new. I'm waiting to break these 3046 02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:52.639 bad boys in. 3047 02:23:52.799 --> 02:23:53.479 It looks stiff. 3048 02:23:53.719 --> 02:23:56.399 This is when I get This is eighteen ounce, No, 3049 02:23:56.520 --> 02:23:57.879 this is twenty two ounce denim. 3050 02:23:57.920 --> 02:23:58.760 So it's very heavy. 3051 02:23:58.799 --> 02:24:04.079 It's very thick. Okay, but this untreated I have. I've 3052 02:24:04.120 --> 02:24:05.799 only worn these out a couple of times. I've not 3053 02:24:05.920 --> 02:24:08.600 watched these despite having these for three years. That's right, 3054 02:24:08.680 --> 02:24:12.000 I hold onto jeans. But this is like a little 3055 02:24:12.000 --> 02:24:14.920 wider leg. You could see the indigo is very blue. 3056 02:24:15.120 --> 02:24:19.719 It's it's very very blue. I just said that, mic, 3057 02:24:19.799 --> 02:24:30.000 so they also heard that. I'm sorry, we're talking about 3058 02:24:30.040 --> 02:24:34.319 something I really like. And then you know a lot 3059 02:24:34.399 --> 02:24:37.879 of stitching is like bespoke and everything. But yeah, very 3060 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:42.120 thick jeans. Very like if I angled these enough, they 3061 02:24:42.280 --> 02:24:44.680 might be able to stand on their own. Now, if 3062 02:24:44.719 --> 02:24:48.319 you another pair of jeans I have here, very well used, 3063 02:24:48.440 --> 02:24:52.239 very broken in this is unbranded salvage. The brand is 3064 02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:53.280 actually unbranded. 3065 02:24:54.079 --> 02:24:54.200 Uh. 3066 02:24:54.479 --> 02:24:58.879 You can see here the different the different fades from 3067 02:24:58.959 --> 02:25:02.319 my life and how my life is when I wear jeans. 3068 02:25:02.600 --> 02:25:05.680 Look at these fades where my pants cross. Look at 3069 02:25:05.719 --> 02:25:12.040 this honeycomb pattern behind my knees exactly. This is like 3070 02:25:12.120 --> 02:25:13.760 the these are like wrinkles. 3071 02:25:13.879 --> 02:25:15.799 You know when you see an old person and then 3072 02:25:15.799 --> 02:25:17.440 they got a hell of wrinkles on their face, You're like, 3073 02:25:17.559 --> 02:25:21.639 damn dog, you've seen life. Also, you can tell that like, 3074 02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:24.959 you can't pickpocket me from behind because based off of 3075 02:25:25.040 --> 02:25:27.440 this fade, I wear my wallet in my front right 3076 02:25:27.520 --> 02:25:30.600 pocket and then I have AirPods in my front left 3077 02:25:30.639 --> 02:25:33.399 pocket because you could see there's like a slight indentation 3078 02:25:33.559 --> 02:25:34.440 of AirPods there. 3079 02:25:34.879 --> 02:25:38.440 And then the other part that is terrible, because man, 3080 02:25:38.520 --> 02:25:43.399 what them thighs do is I have this problem with 3081 02:25:43.600 --> 02:25:46.840 a lot of my jeans because I am too flexible 3082 02:25:46.879 --> 02:25:53.040 of a person. I I, oh, Jim, I got crotch holes. 3083 02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:56.799 Oh sure, this is like backside holes, because like I 3084 02:25:56.959 --> 02:25:59.159 be high knee and and a high stepping all the time. 3085 02:25:59.639 --> 02:26:03.159 You know, I'm like, I'm on the shorter side of 3086 02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:05.280 the crew. So I'm got I gotta be the one 3087 02:26:05.319 --> 02:26:10.040 that goes underneath the tables and relinks the cables and stuff. Anyway, Jeans, 3088 02:26:11.079 --> 02:26:14.959 if we ever go on an off site to Japan, 3089 02:26:15.639 --> 02:26:17.760 I will buy everyone a pair of raw denim. 3090 02:26:18.120 --> 02:26:21.399 I'm talking Jan. I'm gonna tell you right now, you 3091 02:26:21.440 --> 02:26:21.920 don't have to. 3092 02:26:21.920 --> 02:26:26.399 Do huge stonewashing, Like what a cool idea, Like We'll 3093 02:26:26.399 --> 02:26:28.559 just throw this jeans and so in this wash with 3094 02:26:28.639 --> 02:26:31.360 a bunch of stones and it'll break it in for you. 3095 02:26:31.799 --> 02:26:34.799 I am not anti technology. I'm not a jeans bloodite. 3096 02:26:35.000 --> 02:26:38.360 So I really admire your passion. 3097 02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:39.520 My friend. 3098 02:26:39.959 --> 02:26:42.440 Thank you, Thank you, Mike. We're best friends again. 3099 02:26:43.760 --> 02:26:45.719 This is probably how Bailey felt when Ghost. 3100 02:26:51.040 --> 02:26:56.600 It's like, oh. 3101 02:26:58.079 --> 02:27:00.360 God, God, bless Bailey Myers, because I feel like I've 3102 02:27:00.399 --> 02:27:03.440 talked her ear off about power Rangers in Germany. But 3103 02:27:03.639 --> 02:27:07.440 also I was explaining the intricacies and why my white 3104 02:27:07.479 --> 02:27:10.559 T shirt was super expensive compared to a regular white 3105 02:27:10.559 --> 02:27:12.559 T shirt. We don't need to get into that all right. 3106 02:27:12.600 --> 02:27:14.879 By the way, that dandom like posted that video of 3107 02:27:14.959 --> 02:27:19.120 Bailey and Jenny Nicholson at that Overlook hotel inspiration place 3108 02:27:19.159 --> 02:27:20.920 with the gust story so people can watch it judge 3109 02:27:20.920 --> 02:27:21.520 for themselves. 3110 02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:27.639 Now I think yes, Uh, all right, last emails, so 3111 02:27:27.760 --> 02:27:32.520 many Sweet Jesus, Hey, there would have been more if 3112 02:27:32.639 --> 02:27:33.440 Travis didn't. 3113 02:27:35.799 --> 02:27:37.319 I gotta get out in like five minutes because I'm 3114 02:27:37.319 --> 02:27:38.840 gonna go pick up Amy. So let's wrap this up. 3115 02:27:38.879 --> 02:27:41.280 Let's do it all right, Hey, BombCast, I've been going 3116 02:27:41.319 --> 02:27:43.159 on a lot of First States lately. Has there ever 3117 02:27:43.239 --> 02:27:44.840 been a point in your life where you realized you 3118 02:27:44.920 --> 02:27:48.000 were in the middle of a montage? Thomas from Minneapolis. 3119 02:27:49.719 --> 02:27:50.719 That's a good question. 3120 02:27:51.920 --> 02:27:53.239 Wow, huh. 3121 02:27:54.200 --> 02:27:56.879 I feel that way sometimes whenever I'm doing something new 3122 02:27:56.920 --> 02:27:59.879 with the kids, and it's like they are gonna remem 3123 02:28:00.000 --> 02:28:04.479 remember this stuff in like fits and starts, as like flashes, 3124 02:28:04.680 --> 02:28:06.959 and so I'm like here now to be memories for them, 3125 02:28:07.159 --> 02:28:09.639 and so that I'm in, I'm in their montage a 3126 02:28:09.639 --> 02:28:10.719 little bit. It's kind of how I feel. 3127 02:28:10.719 --> 02:28:12.840 Okay, And the astro bought speed runs a little bit 3128 02:28:12.920 --> 02:28:14.680 like that because like it starts on like real bad. 3129 02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:17.079 It's like you get like like a little bit better 3130 02:28:17.239 --> 02:28:17.879 and like you like. 3131 02:28:17.920 --> 02:28:21.399 Have like the your coach comes in the house montage. 3132 02:28:21.520 --> 02:28:21.799 It's like. 3133 02:28:27.319 --> 02:28:29.280 Some day I'll back. I was like, boy, I really 3134 02:28:29.319 --> 02:28:30.879 had to do all that ship to get to where 3135 02:28:30.879 --> 02:28:31.399 I am today. 3136 02:28:31.520 --> 02:28:35.079 Huh Yeah, you're still waiting for your going up the stairs. 3137 02:28:36.559 --> 02:28:38.280 You're still running through the streets right. 3138 02:28:38.239 --> 02:28:38.840 Now, exactly. 3139 02:28:39.399 --> 02:28:41.360 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. 3140 02:28:41.479 --> 02:28:44.159 And that does it for emails. Bombcasting Giant bomb dot 3141 02:28:44.239 --> 02:28:46.159 com is the email address to send your emails to. 3142 02:28:47.200 --> 02:28:48.639 Uh, we got to get out of here, but this 3143 02:28:48.719 --> 02:28:51.799 one last check. Uh no, switch to news. 3144 02:28:52.319 --> 02:28:57.879 Wow, weird what your business card said? Switch to news? 3145 02:28:58.120 --> 02:29:05.159 No zeno blade, no switch no miss no miss, no missing. 3146 02:29:07.879 --> 02:29:10.000 We got games mornings popping off for the rest of 3147 02:29:10.079 --> 02:29:11.280 the week, right group. 3148 02:29:11.680 --> 02:29:15.440 Yeah, yeah, back Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Even though im 3149 02:29:15.440 --> 02:29:18.159 traveling Friday, I'm traveling in the late evening, so uh 3150 02:29:18.600 --> 02:29:20.440 should be able to make that all happen. We'll do 3151 02:29:20.600 --> 02:29:22.920 a BCR right on Friday. Right, we should be able 3152 02:29:22.920 --> 02:29:23.479 to make that happen. 3153 02:29:23.959 --> 02:29:26.319 Maybe we don't do a BCR. We'll just do a 3154 02:29:26.440 --> 02:29:28.079 longer upf because I think, oh, there you go. 3155 02:29:28.159 --> 02:29:29.559 You guys can't go on with that. Then I think 3156 02:29:29.600 --> 02:29:30.040 it is just. 3157 02:29:30.760 --> 02:29:34.520 Bailly and I holding down the Fort Blake Club popping 3158 02:29:34.600 --> 02:29:39.799 off tomorrow. Lucy James continues her quest voicemailed dump truck 3159 02:29:40.760 --> 02:29:44.159 probably on Thursday. Most likely on Thursday, we were thinking 3160 02:29:44.159 --> 02:29:46.239 about trying to move that up so people can get 3161 02:29:46.280 --> 02:29:49.440 out and get to trick or treating. But this weekend, friends, 3162 02:29:49.639 --> 02:29:52.159 the reason why three of these people are traveling is 3163 02:29:52.319 --> 02:29:56.399 because Extra Life Weekend is this weekend. These three will 3164 02:29:56.440 --> 02:30:01.479 be joining Dan in Dan's abode and they will be 3165 02:30:01.600 --> 02:30:04.840 knocking on his doors just like the woodpeckers are knocking 3166 02:30:04.920 --> 02:30:08.000 on his walls, because they will be participating in Extra Life. 3167 02:30:08.360 --> 02:30:11.319 And after this crew wraps up their shift of Extra Life, 3168 02:30:11.799 --> 02:30:13.520 I will be streaming the Quiet Man. 3169 02:30:14.840 --> 02:30:16.559 Yeah, some inexplicable reason. 3170 02:30:17.280 --> 02:30:19.000 I did this to myself and I'll do it to myself. 3171 02:30:19.799 --> 02:30:21.600 By the way, if people want to get involved with 3172 02:30:21.719 --> 02:30:26.159 our Extra Life stuff, bit dot ly slash gb XL 3173 02:30:26.280 --> 02:30:29.520 twenty four two four that will get you to the 3174 02:30:29.639 --> 02:30:32.319 Extra Life page for the team. That's where you can 3175 02:30:32.360 --> 02:30:34.680 sign up if you want to stream yourself and That's 3176 02:30:34.719 --> 02:30:36.479 also where you can donate if you just want to 3177 02:30:36.520 --> 02:30:38.600 help out with the cause. That's where we'll be collecting 3178 02:30:38.680 --> 02:30:42.120 donations over the weekend. Where we start someone asked around 3179 02:30:42.200 --> 02:30:45.319 noon Central is one where you gets start air aiming 3180 02:30:45.399 --> 02:30:48.600 to start doing everything or the weekend. And also if 3181 02:30:48.639 --> 02:30:50.920 you do, if you do sign up for stream for 3182 02:30:51.200 --> 02:30:54.600 Team Giant Bomb, I do have a Google form circulating 3183 02:30:54.639 --> 02:30:56.399 where you can sign up that way, like me and 3184 02:30:56.600 --> 02:30:58.360 the site mods know to like put you in the 3185 02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:01.360 second slot on the stream page. I'll make sure like 3186 02:31:01.479 --> 02:31:04.559 retweet reposts that from our socials so people can find 3187 02:31:04.680 --> 02:31:05.079 more easily. 3188 02:31:05.639 --> 02:31:08.360 Thank you for organizing all of that. Sean also fukes. 3189 02:31:08.559 --> 02:31:11.879 Hey get ready for some shenanigans around the game awards. 3190 02:31:12.239 --> 02:31:15.879 Uh been spinning a lot of plates over here at 3191 02:31:15.920 --> 02:31:20.479 gb HQ and some exciting things be happening GB. 3192 02:31:20.360 --> 02:31:22.559 At night the night before h it'll be fun. 3193 02:31:22.920 --> 02:31:27.079 Weddle date December eleventh, Yes, yes, yes, folks, that about 3194 02:31:27.120 --> 02:31:30.799 does it for the Giant BombCast. Thank you for listening. 3195 02:31:31.200 --> 02:31:34.000 I'm gonna play the music now. He's been Mikey's been, Sean, 3196 02:31:34.040 --> 02:31:37.360 he's been Grub, I've been Jent and hey, happy Filipido 3197 02:31:37.399 --> 02:31:40.399 American History. Months to my fellow kuyazannatas out there. Shouts 3198 02:31:40.440 --> 02:31:43.159 out to Michael Him, shouts out Eliza Kapplin, shouts out 3199 02:31:43.200 --> 02:31:45.879 to Chastity Visset Show, shouts out to j Phil Gospy, 3200 02:31:46.000 --> 02:31:50.559 shouts out to every goddamn Filiplato in this fucking industry. 3201 02:31:51.920 --> 02:32:00.280 Ext what Goku goad Dad, I don't know, kid, go Oku, 3202 02:32:00.399 --> 02:32:01.200 Dragon Ball Dime. 3203 02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:01.760 It's good.