Speaker 1: And we are back.
Speaker 2: So our next topic, keeping in line with Marvel, is
some Daredevil season two rumors. Like I said, we're reviewing
season one, there's a whole bunch of stuff that's just
kind of coming out right now, it seems. And the
baseline rumor here is that Daredevil is to assemble his
own heroes to take on the anti Vigilante task Force.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense for what we've been getting in
this season one so far. Halfway through the season, right,
mm hmm, this is us.
Speaker 2: So do you have your own kind of envision in
mind of who you want in this task force? Because
I mean it obviously kind of can defer to who
it is, like the Defenders. That's kind of like the
baseline for this.
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, I guess I wonder how much of
it would be dipping into like MCU specific characters or
if the idea is like with this kind of one
first two seasons of Daredevil seems like they really are
trying to rejuvenate that that Marvel Netflix era, right, even
like bringing back Bullseye for like a pretty small role,
but just like have that character back in there and
bringing back like Punisher of course, and then you know,
obviously Kingpin and the rest of the main crew there,
and so yeah, maybe that's like the idea here is
a bit of like a one to two punch of
like season one is more focused on like those Daredevil
specific things, but then two is where we venture more
into bringing in some of those other characters from the
Netflix era that they still want to keep a hand on.
So I'm into it. I wonder what the budget would
be like, because that was, like, you know, an issue
with Defenders as a show is it just was a
lot more expensive, so we got fewer episodes than the
other shows that were on the Netflix, and then we
just didn't get as much depth, and then it wasn't
quite as good in some of the action scenes in particular,
were noticeably cheaper, right, just having to make things work.
And so I wonder if that could end up happening
if we are bringing back a lot of these other
people along with just already the stuff that we have
going on there. So I don't know, I guess I
would maybe be a little bit concerned how much budget
they're gonna ge the show if they are going to
go down that route, But I would love it, I think,
I mean Jessica Jones. I would definitely want back. That
would be top top of the pile. Luke Cage as well,
I'd love to see him back. I'd be fine if
we recast Danny Rand or if we just grab someone
else to be like the Iron Fist Mantle. I don't
necessarily need him back, but there's other characters, you know,
whether you get back Claire or you get Colleen back
in there, you know, there's some other people that could
be interesting to dust off. So I don't know. I
think i'd be down for that. I think it could
be fun, but I also don't want it to pull
too much away from what Daredevil is as a show.
But I don't know. Maybe we've had so much of
him already that it's like, let's just go into the
team up stuff and have some fun with it rather
than it being focused on him. But if he's just
kind of like what everything circles around orbits, I'm I'm
kind of down for this. So I think I think
it could make sense, especially with once again where we're
set up with season one here, I could see this
kind of thing having to be relevant. I don't know
if he can do it all on his own. Yeah,
I don't think he can do it on his own.
Speaker 2: As great as a hero as he is, I mean,
you gotta you gotta tap in the troops at some point,
and especially if we got this whole anti vigilante task
force popping off. That's that's the the real deal. So
the concept to bring in these Defenders is great, and
it's it's gonna sprout probably a whole bunch of retros
between me and Kirkland. I'm sure to go through all
these characters. But I've seen Jessica Jones a long time ago,
and I've seen Iron Fifth season one and two. I
haven't seen Luke Cage, and I haven't seen Punishers or Defenders.
So those are the three shows that are still kind
of on the on the docket to get through. But
I really do like Iron Fest. I think that's that's fun.
I like Colleen, and I like the those those characters,
and I think bringing in Danny Rand for sure. We
had a nod to Dan, not to Danny Rand, but
to Aaron Fist in Marvel's What If Season three, so
I think Iron Fist is definitely in the back of
Marvel's mind potentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Do you think of any other like
current MCU characters that could team up, Like, I don't
know moon Night. I mean, you know, it's oscar is Is
He's not cheap, but I feel like a Moonnight could
like fit in that in that lineup pretty well. Well.
Speaker 2: Where's the line drawn between the Defenders and Midnight Suns?
Is there even one? I don't think anyone knows, because
I'm I'm assuming that they're they're two separate teams, but
they're probably I think they're operating in the same space.
Of course, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably crossover, Yeah, crossover.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's I don't know, it's tricky, Like
I could I I would love to see a Moonnight.
I would love to see Jack Russells, Werewolf or ghost
Rider someone just pop up. But I think like there's
still a little bits too fantastical. I mean, Iron Fists
out of all these characters, feels like the most fantastical
of all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would want she Hulk in there too, of course,
as I always do. But like that's budget there Cjack character.
Speaker 2: Right, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's tough. It's tough to say I.
Speaker 2: Because you have just a bunch of people that look
like regular people and are pretty much I mean aside
from what costumes they're wearing, and then you just throw
in like one of our main MCU guys. That's just
a full ten. I'm not saying these are characters aren't tense.
I just mean in their appearance, it just would. I
don't know, it seems out of place to me, but
maybe I'm also have this preconceived notion of like, well,
The Defenders is just what we have already established on Netflix,
and we already have a whole bunch of new characters
that have been created in this show, like what, well,
I can't say White Tiger because I mean he got yeah,
but there there's apparently his daughter. It's is yeah, he's
said up his daughter, his niece to I think one
of them takes the mantle White Tiger, so that lead
lineage carries on, and then we have other characters that
they're introducing, and even like you mentioned shock, when you
look at the Shahawks show, we got a whole plethora
of other heroes that exist in the MCU and like
even I guess like villains, maybe two that are trying
to get off easy in Core. So there's a lot
of other characters street level that could fit in with
the Defenders.
Speaker 1: I feel like, hmm yeah, Like I feel like anyone
on the Thunderbolts maybe they could uh maybe they could
gear up. Yeah, what else are you gonna do with
some of these characters? You know, well, you could.
Speaker 2: Either kill them off or I mean, I don't know
what you save them for. I mean, you're saving Elena
for for the next Avengers, for sure, but the rest,
I don't know what you do with the rest. Maybe
maybe with the right Guardian in there, but.
Speaker 1: You chuck them in Daredevil season two, that's what you Yeah,
I feel like I Moonnight would be really cool. Once again,
I don't think it'll happen. I would not predict that,
but I think that would be a really fun one
to pull in because once again, what the heck else
is he doing? If if we get Midnight Suns, I
feel like that's years away, you know, that character, because
that show is what three years old now four? I
think so twenty two. So it's like, you know, we
gotta use you gotta use them or lose them, So
bring them back in here kind of refresh him, and
you know, if you don't, if you're worried about how
it fits in with his story or whatever future plans.
He's got all these different personalities, just give him some
other personality for this one if you want, and he
can just kind of exist. But I think that could
work two budget wise. I feel like that character they
could pull off and it would be a little bit
more pizaz to it, and it would help establish the connection.
I just don't know. Why would Moonnight be in New
York trying to take out Fisk. I don't know. We'll
have to wait and see, but I think that would
be maybe my top hope if this is the case
in terms of an MCU crossover character, that seems like
it would fit story wise, and it could be fun,
So that'd be cool. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I was just looking up what some of the members
were for for this team, and this is on Marvel
dot Com, so it actually represents it. So the Defenders,
it's his former members. There's Cleia, Blazing Skull, Beast Atlas Angel,
who is this Blazing Skull. It looks like a ghost rider.
Speaker 1: Sounds a good ghost writer.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, And then so currently the current members Daredevil
Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fish, Captain America, Sam Wilson,
and then Valkyrie. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, story wise, that makes no sense to me
why she would be on the team in this show.
But that would be cool because what else is she doing?
You know? In the mc right now she kind of
got shafted and throw three four? What the heck was that?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 1: That one?
Speaker 2: Love and Thunder? Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, cool neat let's see here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I have anything else on Daredevil.
Do you have anything else yet on Daredevil?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we had probably a good time to
bring in the question from Charlie Randell. Here I have
it here, assuming Spider Man four comes before this from Patreon.
By the way, you can join our patreon and ask
questions whenever you want. Assuming Spider Man four comes before
Dared Devel season two, do you think Fisk and Matt
could have a large role in the movie and would
you want that at all? Also, what if one character
from the MCU would you want to see team up
with Matt in season two? And he says it doesn't
have to make complete sense, so it could be like
a zany pick too, So I guess that to answer
that first one quickly, for me, like Spider Man four,
you know, coming before season two, seems like there could
be some connectivity there. To me, I feel like that
that's too much, too many moving parts. I feel like
all of these Spider Man movies, it kind of comes
together very quickly in terms of when they get the
rights of the go ahead, and then it kind of
goes like top of the pile priority list in terms
of them making these things, which is why we're getting
so many rumors right now for Spider Man four. But
I don't think we'll see I don't think we'll see
any Daredevil stuff in Spider Man for I think there's
gonna be completely separate projects. I think it's like if we
had charted them out on the slate year ago, that
they were gonna be right next to each other. And yeah,
Daredevil was supposed to come out and then Spider Man
in the Dedrierral season two. Like maybe, but I think
it's just a bit too cute, it's a bit too
I just don't think it's gonna happen. So I would
love to see some connectivity there, but I just don't.
I just don't think we're gonna get it. Plus, it's
like with Spider Man four, we got a lot going
on already between all these rumors, so I don't know
if we really need like a Fisk element, Like maybe
you get Daredevil in there, since we had it in
the last one at least with Matt. Maybe now you
actually get Daredevil in there for a fight scene. But
I would I would wager that we will not see it,
even if I do personally want to see it. What
do you think about that part.
Speaker 2: With the crossover in Your Friendly Neighbor with Spider Man.
I think that they want to do it, I really do.
I think they want to combine these two interesting and
of course we've seen it already, so they're getting their
toes wet a little bit with Tom Hollan Spider Man
and with Daredevil, So putting Fisk in there, I think
it's it's very much doable. But we have to take
into account the possible rumors, And we talked about earlier
with Spider Man four, like if you're doing a Spider
Queen and Spider Island story, I don't know how you
really weave in much room for Daredevil and Fisk to
come in there because and this is where we've had
conversations before, like, Okay, how much of the shows do
you need to watch to understand what's going on in
the movies? And Captain America faces a little bit of
that problem the latest one, Brave New World. So even
Thunderbolts is going to be probably facing a little bit
of that, but I hope not. Ultimately you're gonna have
If you have Spider Man four come out before Daredevil
season two and those two characters are in Spider Man four,
you're gonna get the season two of Daredevil, and maybe
people haven't seen the movie Spider Man, they're gonna be like, wow,
why is Fisk and Daredevil on this totally different? Like
playing field right now with like Spider Man and all
these things could develop in a story like that so quickly,
so you really need to make or it's mapped out properly.
That Beings said, I want it. I do want it
as long as it's written. Okay, I want Fists to
appear in Spider Man, for I think it'd be cool
because he's already mentioned Spider Man in the show, so
they're they're putting the little spider eggs down to cross
over and do their things. So yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think yeah, honestly, now you mention it, I could see
I could say there being like a cameo or something,
or like a reference to fists, like maybe in the
background on a billboard, on a TV screen something like that.
But I think it would be something small like that,
something that they could have easily filmed in you know,
one day on set, or something they just like already
had footage of that they could like pull and just
slap on a TV screen in the background. I could
say something like that, and that would be fun just
for the world building aspect of it and really make
it one that would Yeah, that would I mean maybe yeah,
set up plant those eggs as you were saying, But
also it kind of just make Daredevil feel like a
bigger deal and you'd be like, yeah, this is not
the Netflix era anymore. This is freaking Disney Plus Air.
Look at these these guys are on the big screen too,
you know that kind of stuff. It would just maybe
that would draw some people over to Disney Plus as
well who haven't checked out that show yet. So yeah,
maybe maybe you're right, Maybe there could be like a
smaller a smaller role, but I I yeah, I think
just for script wise and story reasons. I also just
don't like, I don't know Spider Man is gonna be
dealing with a politician who doesn't who isn't capable of
fighting him because of his power level. I don't know.
I don't know if we'd get that on the big screen,
you know.
Speaker 2: And that's already too a little bit like carbon copy
of Daredevil. I mean sees like Netflix Daredevil and then
this Daredevil too, with just this hero taken on Kingpin
like we've seen that. I don't need to see it
reskinned with Spider Man trying to do it.
Speaker 1: Like what Spider Man gonna do breaking a fake apartment
to find Andy and the prison sell and break him out,
like you know what he's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: That's what Andy's holding out for Spider Man to come in.
Speaker 1: And then if you if you didn't watch that movie
but only watch Daredevil, it makes no sense how the
guy broke out, Oh Man, which which ms you? Character
or character do you really want to see in Dart
Devil season two?
Speaker 2: Now this is where I think, Yeah, we could get
really really crazy with the characters that pop in. I
would really love to see, and I know we're not
going to get it. I'd love to see Blade. Blade
and Daredevil would be really cool.
Speaker 1: Blade was top of my list as well, top of
your list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see Jack Russells wear Wolf like
these really dark the Midnight Suns guys. I really like
to see them Doctor Strange though, if I had to
pick maybe a realistic one, I think Doctor Strange and
Matt would be a really cool connection. And I mean
they both were in the same movie already, just not
in the same scene.
Speaker 1: Oh true. Yeah, I kind of forgot about that. That's
a good point though.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: What about you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Blade, As I said, topic was top
of my list. I kind of talked myself in this
moon Night thing. I really want that to happen now. Yolena,
for sure. I think they could have a fun dynamic,
whether it's you know, romantic or they're just hanging out
pounding around together. That could be really fun. And I
just want Elena in any project ever. And then if
you know, for me, the easiest slim dunk when I'm
a broken record at this point, but I just I
just want more. She Hulk. I don't know where she's
gonna pop up. I don't think we're getting another season
of that show. She wasn't in Brave New World, evenough
there was a lot of Hulk stuff there. I don't
know where the heck this is carry. Is she gonna
be an Avengers? I don't know, but I feel like
this could be a spot that would make sense. They
had great chemistry and she Hulk when he was in
there for a couple episodes, and be really fun to
kind of return the favor. If he's like, I need
some big muscles here, can you? He calls her up,
and then she could come help out. I think that
could be really fun. So those would be mine. She
helped Lady Elena would be my top three nice.
Speaker 2: I love it, cool, cool. Uh well yeah, thank you
mister Charlie Roundel for that. Thank you, lovely question.
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