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Speaker 1: And we are back.

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Speaker 2: So our next topic, keeping in line with Marvel, is

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some Daredevil season two rumors. Like I said, we're reviewing

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season one, there's a whole bunch of stuff that's just

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kind of coming out right now, it seems. And the

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baseline rumor here is that Daredevil is to assemble his

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own heroes to take on the anti Vigilante task Force.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense for what we've been getting in

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this season one so far. Halfway through the season, right,

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mm hmm, this is us.

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Speaker 2: So do you have your own kind of envision in

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mind of who you want in this task force? Because

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I mean it obviously kind of can defer to who

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it is, like the Defenders. That's kind of like the

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Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, I guess I wonder how much of

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it would be dipping into like MCU specific characters or

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if the idea is like with this kind of one

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first two seasons of Daredevil seems like they really are

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trying to rejuvenate that that Marvel Netflix era, right, even

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like bringing back Bullseye for like a pretty small role,

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but just like have that character back in there and

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bringing back like Punisher of course, and then you know,

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obviously Kingpin and the rest of the main crew there,

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and so yeah, maybe that's like the idea here is

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a bit of like a one to two punch of

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like season one is more focused on like those Daredevil

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specific things, but then two is where we venture more

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into bringing in some of those other characters from the

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Netflix era that they still want to keep a hand on.

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So I'm into it. I wonder what the budget would

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with Defenders as a show is it just was a

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lot more expensive, so we got fewer episodes than the

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other shows that were on the Netflix, and then we

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just didn't get as much depth, and then it wasn't

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quite as good in some of the action scenes in particular,

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were noticeably cheaper, right, just having to make things work.

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if we are bringing back a lot of these other

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go down that route, But I would love it, I think,

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we recast Danny Rand or if we just grab someone

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else to be like the Iron Fist Mantle. I don't

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necessarily need him back, but there's other characters, you know,

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whether you get back Claire or you get Colleen back

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in there, you know, there's some other people that could

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be interesting to dust off. So I don't know. I

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think i'd be down for that. I think it could

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be fun, but I also don't want it to pull

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too much away from what Daredevil is as a show.

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him already that it's like, let's just go into the

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team up stuff and have some fun with it rather

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than it being focused on him. But if he's just

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kind of like what everything circles around orbits, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: As great as a hero as he is, I mean,

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you gotta you gotta tap in the troops at some point,

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and especially if we got this whole anti vigilante task

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force popping off. That's that's the the real deal. So

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and I think bringing in Danny Rand for sure. We

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Speaker 2: Where's the line drawn between the Defenders and Midnight Suns?

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still a little bits too fantastical. I mean, Iron Fists

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out of all these characters, feels like the most fantastical

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would want she Hulk in there too, of course,

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as I always do. But like that's budget there Cjack character.

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Speaker 2: Right, mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's tough. It's tough to say I.

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Speaker 2: Because you have just a bunch of people that look

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like regular people and are pretty much I mean aside

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from what costumes they're wearing, and then you just throw

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don't know, it seems out of place to me, but

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said up his daughter, his niece to I think one

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of them takes the mantle White Tiger, so that lead

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gear up. Yeah, what else are you gonna do with

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that show is what three years old now four? I

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gotta use you gotta use them or lose them, So

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other personality for this one if you want, and he

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York trying to take out Fisk. I don't know. We'll

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Speaker 1: That one?

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bring in the question from Charlie Randell. Here I have

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it's it's very much doable. But we have to take

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into account the possible rumors, And we talked about earlier

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with Spider Man four, like if you're doing a Spider

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Queen and Spider Island story, I don't know how you

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really weave in much room for Daredevil and Fisk to

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come in there because and this is where we've had

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conversations before, like, Okay, how much of the shows do

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you need to watch to understand what's going on in

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the movies? And Captain America faces a little bit of

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that problem the latest one, Brave New World. So even

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Thunderbolts is going to be probably facing a little bit

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of that, but I hope not. Ultimately you're gonna have

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season two and those two characters are in Spider Man four,

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you're gonna get the season two of Daredevil, and maybe

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people haven't seen the movie Spider Man, they're gonna be like, wow,

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why is Fisk and Daredevil on this totally different? Like

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playing field right now with like Spider Man and all

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these things could develop in a story like that so quickly,

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so you really need to make or it's mapped out properly.

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That Beings said, I want it. I do want it

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as long as it's written. Okay, I want Fists to

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appear in Spider Man, for I think it'd be cool

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because he's already mentioned Spider Man in the show, so

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they're they're putting the little spider eggs down to cross

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over and do their things. So yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think yeah, honestly, now you mention it, I could see

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I could say there being like a cameo or something,

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or like a reference to fists, like maybe in the

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background on a billboard, on a TV screen something like that.

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something that they could have easily filmed in you know,

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one day on set, or something they just like already

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had footage of that they could like pull and just

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slap on a TV screen in the background. I could

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say something like that, and that would be fun just

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for the world building aspect of it and really make

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it one that would Yeah, that would I mean maybe yeah,

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set up plant those eggs as you were saying, But

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also it kind of just make Daredevil feel like a

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bigger deal and you'd be like, yeah, this is not

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the Netflix era anymore. This is freaking Disney Plus Air.

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Look at these these guys are on the big screen too,

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you know that kind of stuff. It would just maybe

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that would draw some people over to Disney Plus as

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well who haven't checked out that show yet. So yeah,

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maybe maybe you're right, Maybe there could be like a

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smaller a smaller role, but I I yeah, I think

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just for script wise and story reasons. I also just

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don't like, I don't know Spider Man is gonna be

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dealing with a politician who doesn't who isn't capable of

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fighting him because of his power level. I don't know.

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I don't know if we'd get that on the big screen,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: And that's already too a little bit like carbon copy

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of Daredevil. I mean sees like Netflix Daredevil and then

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this Daredevil too, with just this hero taken on Kingpin

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like we've seen that. I don't need to see it

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reskinned with Spider Man trying to do it.

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Speaker 1: Like what Spider Man gonna do breaking a fake apartment

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to find Andy and the prison sell and break him out,

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like you know what he's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: That's what Andy's holding out for Spider Man to come in.

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Speaker 1: And then if you if you didn't watch that movie

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but only watch Daredevil, it makes no sense how the

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guy broke out, Oh Man, which which ms you? Character

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or character do you really want to see in Dart

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Devil season two?

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Speaker 2: Now this is where I think, Yeah, we could get

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really really crazy with the characters that pop in. I

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would really love to see, and I know we're not

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going to get it. I'd love to see Blade. Blade

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and Daredevil would be really cool.

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Speaker 1: Blade was top of my list as well, top of

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your list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see Jack Russells wear Wolf like

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these really dark the Midnight Suns guys. I really like

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to see them Doctor Strange though, if I had to

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pick maybe a realistic one, I think Doctor Strange and

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Matt would be a really cool connection. And I mean

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they both were in the same movie already, just not

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in the same scene.

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Speaker 1: Oh true. Yeah, I kind of forgot about that. That's

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a good point though.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 2: What about you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Blade, As I said, topic was top

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of my list. I kind of talked myself in this

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moon Night thing. I really want that to happen now. Yolena,

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for sure. I think they could have a fun dynamic,

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whether it's you know, romantic or they're just hanging out

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pounding around together. That could be really fun. And I

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just want Elena in any project ever. And then if

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you know, for me, the easiest slim dunk when I'm

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a broken record at this point, but I just I

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just want more. She Hulk. I don't know where she's

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gonna pop up. I don't think we're getting another season

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of that show. She wasn't in Brave New World, evenough

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there was a lot of Hulk stuff there. I don't

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know where the heck this is carry. Is she gonna

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be an Avengers? I don't know, but I feel like

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this could be a spot that would make sense. They

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had great chemistry and she Hulk when he was in

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there for a couple episodes, and be really fun to

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kind of return the favor. If he's like, I need

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some big muscles here, can you? He calls her up,

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and then she could come help out. I think that

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could be really fun. So those would be mine. She

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helped Lady Elena would be my top three nice.

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Speaker 2: I love it, cool, cool. Uh well yeah, thank you

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mister Charlie Roundel for that. Thank you, lovely question.

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