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Speaker 1: Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is

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not intended for all audiences.

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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to that level.

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Speaker 1: We can't get anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you like murder, I don't know who likes murder,

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but you know what I mean, if you like this

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sort of thing, the true crime thing here we are.

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This is Sword and Scale s He's an eleven episode

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two hundred and seventy eight, the show that reveals the

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worst monsters are real. Criminals are a subset of our society.

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We often like to think of them as different from ourselves.

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We classify them as criminals and separate them from the

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rest of us. It's those people over there, They're the

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ones that make the bad choices, not of us. Sure,

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it takes a bad decision or a bad series of

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decisions to become a criminal, a lapse in judgment, a

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bad choice drugs, things like that. And the thing is

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we're all still to human beings. Human beings make mistakes,

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and you and I are also human beings. But there

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is a bit of a distinction, even though I would

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argue it's a lot more fragile than most people want

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to portray, especially those people that are teetering on the

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edge of morality. There are those criminals who just find

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it nearly impossible not to break the law. It's kind

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of like who they are, you know, deep down psychologically.

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It stems from a lot of things, but often they

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have an utter lack of empathy. They put their desires

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above everyone else. They rationalize and minimize their actions to

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justify this behavior. In fact, they see themselves as so

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superior that they feel outside the societal norms and above

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all legal constraints. Any challenge to this superiority is met

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with defensiveness and rage. These criminals relentlessly seek validation and

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control through the skewed lens of their irrational mind, and

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this pursuit almost always leads to destructive consequences for themselves and,

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more importantly, all of those around them. About forty five

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minutes north of Detroit, Michigan, tucked into the north central

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part of McComb County, is the village of Armida, surrounded

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by farmlands and orchards. It's best known for the Armida

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Fair at the end of every summer. On July twenty fourth,

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twenty fourteen, it was a cloudy afternoon, but the temperature

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outside was only seventy two degrees on the west end

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of town. April mill sap woke up late?

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Speaker 5: Were you already awake when she woke up.

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Speaker 3: Due this afternoon? Oh my, not too nice? But yeah,

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why so late? Was she out late last night?

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Speaker 6: She without cool?

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Speaker 7: She goes to bedley, She goes to bed me one

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in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And do you think that she was at home

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that all time?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that might sneak out for a couple hours

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to a Thursday night party.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the couch like a typical fourteen year old.

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April stayed up late and slept most of the day

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during the summer. School was out after all. The woman

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speaking is her mother, Jennifer. If she's hard to understand,

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it's because she suffers from cerebral a taxia, an affliction

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that affects her muscle movements. She has to walk with

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a cane and has a bit of a speech impediment

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because of this. She explains that April is a good

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kid and would never sneak out of the house, and

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she couldn't even if she wanted to. Her bedroom window

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was painted shut and she couldn't leave through the front door.

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Because she would have had to get past her mother

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on the couch. Besides, the family pets served as April's alarm.

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Speaker 1: So did she get up?

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Speaker 6: We have two dogs in a camp.

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Speaker 7: They all plot who she's like the pine piper.

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Speaker 6: They all just is like April. They clung door, so

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I know when she did them.

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Speaker 4: April woke up bright and early in the afternoon. When

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she exited her room, she greeted the family pets, two

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dogs and a cat.

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Speaker 3: What was her demeanor when she woke up this morning?

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What she looked like was she just yeah, okay?

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Speaker 4: And in true teenage fashion, April went straight from sleeping

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to gaming on her computer.

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Speaker 3: She spent most of playing in her beer on that PC. Yeah,

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right there in the living room.

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Speaker 1: She plays SIMS.

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Speaker 7: She checks our website, she finds stuff with SIMS characters.

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Speaker 1: She goes the line for that.

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Speaker 4: After a while, she got tired of playing games and

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decided to take the family dogs for a walk.

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Speaker 8: I'm on the couch of the laptop and she came

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last the dog to walk.

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Speaker 1: She changed her clothes about three times.

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Speaker 3: Come of the walk with the dog. Why did she

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do that? Was typical?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and she gets the backpack ready because she takes

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the water of the dog.

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Speaker 1: She takes the little bowl she gets the dog water

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when she walk.

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Speaker 4: So she changed her clothes three times because she needed

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the perfect outfit for her walk. She loaded her backpack

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and water bottle, some dog treats and a little bowl

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for the water. She grabbed her cell phone, put her

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six year old border Collie lab mix on a leash,

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and set out for the great outdoors.

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Speaker 3: Did she say where she was going?

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Speaker 9: She didn't say exactly that the path that she was

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going to take, But there's two paths she usually takes.

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Speaker 1: She usually goes to the trail moved by the uh

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granomy over.

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Speaker 3: There, yep.

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Speaker 9: And then from my house she goes the other direction

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towards the church.

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Speaker 4: On the southern border of the village of Armada is

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the McComb Orchard Trail, Once a railroad, now a paved

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path through the Michigan countryside. It stretches for miles and

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is frequented by walkers, joggers, and bicyclists, especially during the summer.

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Speaker 5: She didn't say which trail she was going on today. No, okay,

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how long has she usually got?

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Speaker 3: Does she always go for walks like that?

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Speaker 10: Then?

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Speaker 8: The dog lab the wake and she it's been trying

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to get the dogs slowed down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: K the meekest dog Themody have on the clipball Yeah back.

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Speaker 6: And Shubert thanking him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But Penny and I think.

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Speaker 3: Shot, that's the dog's name, and I think.

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Speaker 8: He would go to a Penny to come back, then

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come back, and.

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Speaker 6: Then the other them.

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Speaker 4: My life, April often took her dogs for a walk,

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but never took them together. They didn't walk well together.

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On this day, she took her oldest dog first, Penny.

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of unusual for her to walk this

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late in the afternoon. In the evening.

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Speaker 11: No, she.

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Speaker 3: Goes up to Boston.

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Speaker 8: It's a hell call, Hey, I'm at the park, coming

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to me, And she goes.

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Speaker 3: To the five to me and animal.

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Speaker 5: So she leaves the house and you don't know what

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trail she's going on. But were you fairly confident she

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was going to go on the trail or you just yeah, yeah, she.

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Speaker 1: Only goes so two places.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, she didn't just walk around the village

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or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: She would know the dog.

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Speaker 4: She was a creature of habit and only took one

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of the two paths when walking the dogs. Penny especially

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was getting on in years and couldn't handle long walks.

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Speaker 3: How long was April usually gone when she'd go for a.

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Speaker 9: Blot half hour at the moment, Yeah, because like I said,

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the dog can handle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she going back.

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Speaker 4: You may be wondering what this interview is all about. Well,

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after April left to walk Penny that day, she never returned.

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Speaker 6: When she was gone for two hours of talk the

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boy in.

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Speaker 8: Three hours as well, I started corn and I thought

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maybe she met up with the last film.

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Speaker 1: Town okay, And it was about eight thirty and me.

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Speaker 6: Attacked to April, where are you?

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Speaker 9: And then get a call back and then spin So

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I started good sick and then a thirty it's getting

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darker and darker, and then nine.

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Speaker 8: O'clock I'm corner and there's the answered going to voye pil.

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Speaker 4: April had been gone for hours before her mother realized

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how late it was. The sun had already set and

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April wasn't answering her phone and it.

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Speaker 6: Would during the wartimes.

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Speaker 12: They go to Boyd Pinel, so his phone was on.

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Speaker 6: It goes straight and boys down.

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Speaker 4: Worry was setting in and Jennifer tried repeatedly to call

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and text April, but never got a response.

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Speaker 8: Les looking for I mean, she's at the foot, so

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I didn't think should get too.

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Speaker 4: Five sure, then she started to call her friends and

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her fifteen year old boyfriend Austin.

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Speaker 7: When I was getting died into at at home and

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that's when I started getting married in the jam, he

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said she sent him in that tab.

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Speaker 4: Austin had been with a friend all day, helping him

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and his father move and mounted TV. He didn't check

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his phone until it was nearly eight o'clock. That's when

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he saw a message from April received at six twenty

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eight pm that read, I think I almost got kidnapped? OMFG,

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what did you thinks?

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Speaker 9: I don't know what the compsation was from that he

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I think he asked threw what happened, but I don't

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know what.

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Speaker 8: Transpired after she said in that text, I would have

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I tried to put him and he kind of know

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shouldn't tell me anything, and he kind of stopped there.

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But yeah, if if I get a text like that,

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a room or Ben jumped in.

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Speaker 6: The carving down there.

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Speaker 4: The reason Austin didn't give any more information when pushed

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was that he didn't have anymore. He responded to April's message,

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but didn't get a reply. After Jennifer's call looking for April,

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he immediately became concerned and got a friend to take

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him to April's house.

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Speaker 5: What was his reaction when you were talking to him

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about He thought it was a joke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, he thought maybe it was because when he got

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back to.

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Speaker 6: Our house, of course wasn't there.

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Speaker 9: Or he thought her not well shopping and jok They

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seemed drive by and then pretty called me.

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Speaker 4: Austin and his friend joined Jennifer and looking for April.

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The village of Armada was only about three quarters of

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a square mile, so they hoped she couldn't have gotten far.

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They split up. Austin and his friend went down to

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the comb Orchard Trail, one of April's possible routes, while

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Jennifer continued to drive around. The two boys went west

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on the trail but didn't find her. When they started

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heading east, they noticed something in the distance. Far down

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the trail, they could see the lights of emergency vehicles.

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When they met up with Jennifer and relayed the information,

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she decided to go to the police and report her

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missing and to see if there was any connection that you.

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Speaker 3: Have noticed anything strained in the last couple a month,

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a couple of weeks, a couple of days.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean, did.

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Speaker 5: April mention anything about having any odd encounters on their

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social media stuff? Any was she talking to anybody?

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Speaker 10: Not to me?

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Speaker 4: The interview took a strange turn. It started to veer

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off from the line of questioning about where April could

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be and changed to questions about any events that could

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have foretold a tragic end?

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Speaker 3: Did you know where to take drugs?

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Speaker 6: Ever?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 3: Fourteen experiment was.

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Speaker 8: No when the when the topic even comes up.

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Speaker 4: The police were asking these questions for a reason. The

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emergency vehicles on the east side of the Macomb Orchard

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Trail and her disappearance were not a coincidence. They were connected.

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About the same time as and his friend joined Jennifer

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and looking for April, two joggers running on the trail

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saw Penny alone. At first, they just ran past, thankful

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that the dog wasn't aggressive, But when they came back

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by and she was still there, they decided to investigate.

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Speaker 11: The dog came running out of the trail barking erratically.

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My wife looked at me and said that it appeared

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to be a mannequin or a dow looked like down

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there there was a girl with her skirt down at

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her knees and her shirt pulled up a book her chests,

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and her head was kicked back.

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Speaker 13: Nine one one.

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Speaker 14: I'm fairly certain we just found a body along the

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Mountain Bike trail.

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Speaker 4: Penny alerted the joggers to April, just thirty feet off

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the trail.

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Speaker 1: We're between Omo and North Avenue.

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Speaker 7: Goods then are made of.

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Speaker 13: Okay, it looks like GPS, putting you a lot closer

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to Fulton Street.

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Speaker 14: We're kind of right in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Is it a male or female?

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Speaker 14: Female?

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Speaker 7: About how old do you think she hit?

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Speaker 10: I didn't get that close.

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Speaker 15: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Is she on the trail, No, she's off of.

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Speaker 4: The trails, touched back into the lords.

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Speaker 14: Her clothes are all taken off.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 16: And you don't believe she's breathing.

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Speaker 14: I don't believe so.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 4: The police had to break the news to Jennifer that,

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even though they didn't have an official idea yet, it

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was likely April's body that they found in the woods

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off the trail, with her loyal dog Penny at her side.

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On July twenty fourth, twenty fourteen, April millsap set off

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for an evening walk with her dog, Penny, but never

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returned after it got dark. Her mother got worried when

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her calls and texts were ignored. She began to search.

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She called all over the small village of Armida looking

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for even April's fifteen year old boyfriend helped to search

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for It wasn't until they knew of the large gathering

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of emergency vehicles on the Macomb Orchard Trail that they

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feared the worst and went to police to report her missing.

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That night, the police announced to the media their progress

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and the case.

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Speaker 17: There are two missing persons that were investigating, trying to

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find out, you know, what their situation is, to make

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a determination to see if that's maybe our victim. We

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don't know that much about it. There are no signs,

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you know, of gunshots or knife wounds or anything like that,

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but we are, you know, looking to the medical examiner's

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office to tell us what the cause of death was.

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Speaker 4: The following morning, with more information, the chief of police

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gave a press conference addressing the now confirmed homicide.

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Speaker 17: The Armida Police Department in the Michigan State Police are

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currently investigating a homicide which occurred within the village limits

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of Armida. Happened in the area of Fulton Road in Depot,

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which is at the south end of town. The body

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was discovered approximately eight twenty last night. Preliminary investigation reveals

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that two adults that were on the trail using the

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trail were alerted to a female's body which was located

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in a drainage ditch. The victim has been identified as

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April don millsap She's fourteen years of age and she

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is from the village of Armida.

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Speaker 4: Her official cause of death was blood forced truck to

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the head and exphyxiation, but even this tragic news brought

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some sense of relief to her family.

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Speaker 17: When they did the autopsies. There are no signs of

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sexual assault.

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Speaker 4: And her dog Penny, never left her side. April's lifeless

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body lay in the brush thirty feet from the trail

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for a couple of hours before she was found. Her

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backpack and cell phone were missing. Even the dog's leash

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and collar were missing. This suggested that she was murdered

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during a robbery, except she was practically naked. This implied

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sexual assault, but there was no evidence of it occurring.

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The evidence didn't tell the whole story. All they knew

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for sure was that she was beaten and exphyxiated to

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death in broad daylight, mere feet from a busy trail.

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The police turned to the public for help.

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Speaker 17: Detectives are currently looking for a large gray box van

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that was seen in the area of the crime scene.

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This is described as a painters type of van. It

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has dents all over the van, and the van was

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occupied by two white males. It has not been determined

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the role of the van in this investigation. If you

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were aware of a similar van in the area or

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know somebody that has that type of van, the police

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are asking the citizens to contact the Michigan State Police.

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The van was seen late afternoon early evening last night,

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and again we don't know the participation of the van.

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Speaker 6: It could be just.

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Speaker 17: The wrong place at the wrong time, and if we

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can get somebody to come forward and let us know

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that they were out here, that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's a box van, the go to vehicle

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for sick fox. A young girl saw this van around

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the time of the murder and described the men driving

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it as steering her down. The police wasted no time.

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They gave the media what information they had and let

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them disseminate it. But they didn't just sit around waiting

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for tips.

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Speaker 17: We were about to start a canvas of the whole village.

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The van was seen, you know, kind of circling in

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and out of the area, so that's why somebody took

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a picture of them.

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Speaker 4: They canvassed the area and interviewed practically everyone in the village.

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They even performed a roadblock at the village's main crossroads

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and questioned everyone who drove through. The local police enlisted

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the help of Michigan State Police and the FBI. They

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even searched with scent dogs, but came up with nothing.

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The tips from the public started pouring in, though, and

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quickly the box van suspicion was put to rest. The

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contractor called and admitted to being in the area, showing

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his new employee some of the homes he previously worked on.

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It was the good people of Armida that would eventually

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break open the case. People started coming forward that were

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on the trail on that day. William Buchanan was an

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avid bicyclist and was riding the trail when April walked

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her dog past.

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Speaker 6: Loud You ribe Flee Virtue Trail on July twenty fourth,

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two I did. When you're heading feast Trick, I do

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you see a motorcycle on that trail?

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Speaker 18: Do you see a young girl rocking a dog?

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Speaker 6: When you're heading in that direction on that trail?

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Speaker 4: As he was riding east on the trail shortly before

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five point forty pm, he didn't see anything unusual, But

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just a few minutes later, Amy and her mother, Gail

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did see something.

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Speaker 19: Did you go for a bike ride on July twenty

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fourth of two thousand and.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 6: Did you go with anybody?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, me and my mom went for a bike ride

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after she had gotten home from work that day.

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Speaker 6: Did there come a point in time.

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Speaker 21: Where you ran came across a young girl and her dog?

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: The time was approximately five point forty when Amy and

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Gail first saw April.

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Speaker 18: She was walking west on the west on the south

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side of the trail, heading west.

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Speaker 1: I was heading east.

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Speaker 12: She was looking.

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Speaker 22: Down at her phone or whatever she was looking at.

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Speaker 23: She was looking down, and she was walking her dog.

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And my first thought was is the dog friendly? And

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then it was just maybe a minute, not much longer.

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Speaker 22: She crossed over to the north side, so she was

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on the same side of the trail as I was,

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and I was heading these.

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Speaker 6: What did you do when you crossed over?

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Speaker 22: Well, I looked at her and I said hello, and

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I said nice dog, and she smiled in reply said

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it yes, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: It was after this encounter that the pair witnessed a

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peculiar site. Motorized vehicles of any kind were not allowed

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on the trail, it's illegal. When they saw a motorcycle

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on the trail, it stood out to Amy and Gail,

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but also worried them.

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Speaker 1: We were just.

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Speaker 21: Riding our bicycles and I was still on the north

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side of the trail, and the motorcycle was just sitting there,

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and I got over to the south side to get

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out of the way.

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Speaker 18: Because it was just sitting there, not moving at all. Well,

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I was alerted because number one, I right away knew.

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Speaker 6: There should be a motor cycle tricks. And I also

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thought it odd that someone.

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Speaker 18: Was completely covered, and why is this person on the

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trail completely covered?

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Speaker 6: You couldn't see their face at all.

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Speaker 4: The motorcycle was odd enough, but the rider was also

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covered from head to toe in July. He was wearing

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long dark pants, a long sleeved hoodie and a full

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face helmet. Their suspicions were raised, but they pedaled on

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by minding their own business. That's how you stay a lot,

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by the way, just minding your own business. You're welcome anyway.

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Shortly after Amy and Gail rode by, Doug and Mary

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came down the trail.

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Speaker 6: What is it that catches your attention?

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Speaker 10: There were two people ahead on the trail, and it

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was difficult to tell how we would need to move.

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They were more on my side of the trail, but

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also in the middle of the trail up ahead and staff.

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Speaker 2: We saw the two people on the side of the

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road and the lower and the left side of the

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trail that were they were near each other. They looked

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to be talking, and then on the opposite side of

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the trail I could see a motorcycle parked.

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Speaker 4: At first, they were only concerned with how to pass

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without causing an accident. They were on bikes traveling more

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than ten miles an hour, But as soon as they

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got close they noticed an odd interaction.

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Speaker 2: As we started to approach, the two people separated ways.

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She started walking on the trail toward us with her dog,

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and we passed her first.

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Speaker 10: They looked like they were together on the trail.

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Speaker 4: Now, while it's not really odd to see two people

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on the trail together, it is odd to see them

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part ways.

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Speaker 10: So I said hi, and I don't know if I

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heard her say hi or she mouthed high but she

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responded like hi.

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Speaker 4: They saw April on the trail with a man, but

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they quickly parted ways. When Mary said hello to April,

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she replied and smiled. The smile however, you know, it's

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one of those smiles where it's like, are you really smiling?

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What are you trying to convey to me? Yeah, it

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was one of those kind of smiles, tight lipped and odd.

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You know, I just.

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Speaker 1: Knew that she seemed tense.

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Speaker 10: With the smile. I don't know, it just seemed unusual.

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And I'm passing her on the south side, and she

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shifted her eyes to the south side.

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Speaker 4: After passing April, they had to negotiate passing the man

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with the motorcycle, so Mary's attention was glued to him.

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Speaker 10: I'm just looking at his face. I think I was.

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I don't know. I was maybe curious, but mostly I

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wanted to make sure he wasn't going to move into

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our lane, and I said hi.

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Speaker 6: Was their response?

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Speaker 10: No, after you said hi, what did you see yet?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 10: When you say hi to someone and you're up close,

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you expect a response back. He had an angry look

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on his face and he looked down and I just

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passed him.

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Speaker 6: How did that, I guess strike.

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Speaker 1: You as rude?

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Speaker 4: Rude? Indeed, then again, that is how you stay alive.

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The couple continued to ride, but the whole interaction stuck

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with Mary. She even said something to Doug about it.

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She didn't understand why such a girl was talking to

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an older man. She assumed it was her stepfather or

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secret older boyfriend. Ooh, how salacious. Shortly that William Buchanan

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rode back through in the other direction. This time it

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did see something I could see.

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Speaker 24: White down at it worked a mile away as I

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am to see those A young man, tall and sixteen,

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I thought, onto the teens TEUs never had own so yellow.

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Speaker 14: Face moments, supervisor.

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Speaker 25: I'm looking at the.

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Speaker 6: Eyes as a tall he.

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Speaker 4: Like Mary was drawn to the man's eyes, finding it

484
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,079
odd that he looked angry.

485
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 26: His eyes were so wide, anger, nervous, or song, and

486
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,599
concern was I'm as sure as bicyclist, and I'm really angry.

487
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 6: With him, and I got or be an rbl for

488
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960
everybody was eyes.

489
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: As soon as he passed the man with the angry eyes,

490
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:10,119
he saw April.

491
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 27: Immediately after passing shall dark doesn't lose sun and on

492
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,039
the left side of young girl hey blessed on the

493
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,240
railing on the left side, on the edge.

494
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,039
Speaker 4: After passing, the whole scene just puzzled him.

495
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 24: I was trying to understand the scene of the situation. Right,

496
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,640
unusual for the motorcycle to be there. She's on the

497
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,000
left side of the road for the past. My thought

498
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,880
was there was something going on there between the two

499
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,720
of them. Like my thought was that she's still on

500
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,599
the same side of the path. They just said he

501
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,559
wanted like they thought, this is a girl walking walking

502
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,599
the trail and meeting with the white friend that she's

503
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,640
not supposed to or he has a motorcycle but he

504
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,440
just dropped off.

505
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,279
Speaker 6: I mean, just thoughts going through my head. I was

506
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:05,079
trying to process why these two leaders were there in

507
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,160
the position they were, what they were doing.

508
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,079
Speaker 4: He was curious about what those two had been up to,

509
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,759
but he kept peddling. Moments later, Eric Reshkei and his

510
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,359
two daughters rode down the trail heading east.

511
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 6: At some point in time on the half, did you

512
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:27,279
see April mill Set?

513
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

514
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:32,839
Speaker 6: At approximately what time did you see April Millst It

515
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,880
would have been about six twenty five when you saw

516
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,680
April mills that.

517
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: Did she have a dog with her?

518
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 6: Yes? Was she with anybody?

519
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

520
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:44,759
Speaker 6: There was a motorcycle pussing along next door.

521
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:48,519
Speaker 28: Was the motorcycle moving or was the motorcycle still when

522
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:50,440
you first came upon that it was moving?

523
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,319
Speaker 6: How close is the motorcycle to April? It was right

524
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,119
next to her. Was in the middle of the trail.

525
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: He saw April and the man on the motorcycles slowly

526
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:01,880
riding alongside her.

527
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:03,519
Speaker 6: From their body lang.

528
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 28: Which it seemed like they had been talking to you

529
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,720
or maybe your kids acknowledge April.

530
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, who does my old paulist? Did April respond to it?

531
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 12: Yeah?

532
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 6: How did she respond? She looked out from her phone

533
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,160
and waved and said out to her real quick. And

534
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,079
then that's it.

535
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: Other than the motorcycle on the trail, nothing seemed wrong

536
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,960
when they saw April. He and his daughters, just like

537
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:35,640
the others, kept riding. Three minutes later, April sent the

538
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:41,640
text message I think I almost got kidnapped. Omfg. Minutes

539
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,759
after that, Amy and Gail rode back in the other direction.

540
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 29: Yes, I rode up on a motorcycle that was part

541
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,720
on the left side of the trail.

542
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:54,519
Speaker 1: My guard went up.

543
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,039
Speaker 20: I was cautious that somebody was going to jump out

544
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:01,799
at me. Why I thought that, I do not know.

545
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,920
I just kind of even slowed down because I was

546
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:10,200
just I was honestly thought somebody was going to jump.

547
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Out, or I wanted to know where they were at,

548
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,599
you know, what were they doing?

549
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 27: You know.

550
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,839
Speaker 4: Little did Amy know that her fear in that moment

551
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:20,599
was completely warranted.

552
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 29: I heard like stepping on the bushes on the side,

553
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,000
and when I looked over there, it appeared to be

554
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,119
the dog with his paws.

555
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: For just a second, her fear dissipated. Then she saw

556
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,799
the rider of the motorcycle.

557
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,559
Speaker 1: Then I made eye contact with the person that was

558
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,039
out there.

559
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: Right after she noticed Penny in the bushes, She looked

560
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:54,839
up and locked eyes with the man just standing there

561
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,599
in the brush. His hands were at his sides and

562
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,759
he just stared back.

563
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: His eyes were very piercing very like he had done

564
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,640
something wrong.

565
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,559
Speaker 4: After this frightening encounter, Amy caught up with her mom.

566
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,880
Gail wanted to go back and investigate the riderless spike.

567
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,320
She hadn't seen the man.

568
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,079
Speaker 1: She wanted to turn around and go back.

569
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:23,679
Speaker 6: What did you say to her?

570
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: I said absolutely not. We're going home, and I said

571
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,280
it very sternly.

572
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: The police would later surmise that Amy interrupted the man

573
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,119
on the motorcycle. If the brush weren't so thick, she

574
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,920
would have seen April at the man's feet as he

575
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:45,199
stared back at her. Minutes after Amy saw the man,

576
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,679
terrell Land rode east on the trail.

577
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 6: Do you encounter at any time a motorcycle on that path?

578
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: No?

579
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: I did not.

580
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 30: As you're passing the grater and heading into the tunnel

581
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:05,199
of trees, anything unusual that you see, yes, okay, what's that?

582
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 6: Well?

583
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: I read the probably written this trail maybe a hundred

584
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,719
times over the past couple of years, and never do

585
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,480
I see.

586
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 6: A dog free saw it and wondered what the heck?

587
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: And I thought someone was probably walking it and then

588
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,960
stepped into the tree to get to believe themselves, is

589
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,079
what I thought, So.

590
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 6: I kept writing.

591
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,639
Speaker 4: He rode the trail a little further, then turned around

592
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,360
and came back.

593
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 6: Do you see the dog again when you pass that area?

594
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:38,199
Speaker 3: No?

595
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,039
Speaker 1: Are you then consciously looking for the dog?

596
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 10: Now?

597
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 14: Yes?

598
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:43,559
Speaker 6: Do you see the dog?

599
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:44,639
Speaker 10: No?

600
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Do you hear something?

601
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: Yes?

602
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:48,119
Speaker 1: What is it that you hear?

603
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,159
Speaker 6: Repeated parting. It was just like a constant. It's just

604
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,039
it was enough that I wrote what kind of happened?

605
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: And I'm going because I'm on the bike pro and

606
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:03,320
I I didn't put two and two together until I

607
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:03,719
got home.

608
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:09,079
Speaker 4: It was all over when Eric, Reshki, Doug and Mary

609
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:13,119
came back down that trail. It was only later that

610
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,719
the two joggers were alerted by Penny and decided to

611
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,440
investigate finding April's body. If not for the presence of

612
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:25,840
the motorcycle and the rider with the rude behavior, who

613
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,039
knows if the witnesses that day would have noticed or

614
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:34,119
even remembered April walking her dog, perhaps they wouldn't have

615
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:36,920
had to, because it was shaping up that the man

616
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,480
on the motorcycle was the last person to see April alive,

617
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:47,280
who was most likely her killer. From the witness statements,

618
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,199
the police were able to build a timeline of April's

619
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,119
last moments she was attacked sometime between six twenty five

620
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,079
when Eric Rishki first saw her and six four when

621
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:05,519
Amy saw the man standing in the brush. This was

622
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:10,039
the fifteen minute span of time in which April was attacked,

623
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,239
her clothes nearly ripped off, and her head bashed and

624
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,400
neck stopped. The police got a search warrant for her

625
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,320
cell phone and began to compare her GPS data to

626
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,880
what they already knew. They were working the case. Twenty

627
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,199
four to seven. In shifts, they performed several more searches

628
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,519
with and without the aid of dogs. They began interviewing

629
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,480
all registered sex offenders in the area, and once again

630
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,039
they asked the public to help locate the owner of

631
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:48,079
an Enduro style off road motorcycle, possibly colored and blue

632
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,960
and white, but this time they released a composite sketch

633
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,400
provided by Amy.

634
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,519
Speaker 31: Police released this sketch of a man they want to

635
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:01,039
talk to. He's a white male with sandy or reddish hair.

636
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,920
Police aren't certain about his height, but say he's not

637
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:05,119
excessively short.

638
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 19: We're just telling the public, if you see this person,

639
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,639
then you know I see if they're exhibiting some type

640
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,639
of behavior too, and that's what we're really looking at.

641
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,760
A lot of times when these people commit these type

642
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,440
of crimes, they'll either change their work habits, so they'll

643
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,519
do some different things in order to make it a

644
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:22,400
little they're not themselves. We're pretty sure that somebody this

645
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:25,119
person may have talked to somebody. If somebody has talked

646
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,199
to you or something that you think is suspicious, give

647
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,599
us a call and let us look at it. We'll

648
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,000
determine if it's a good tip or not.

649
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 4: And the tips came flooding it In a matter of days,

650
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,960
the police had over four hundred tips. One officer the

651
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:42,800
day after April's death was following up on the sighting

652
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,440
of a motorcycle and it fit the description when he

653
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,320
spotted another motorcycle.

654
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: I seen it as I'm driving by.

655
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:54,519
Speaker 16: I turned my car around, pulled into the driveway, took

656
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,519
a little better look at it from inside my car,

657
00:38:57,679 --> 00:38:59,960
snapped a couple photos of it with my cell phone,

658
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,480
and snapped a photo of the address of the house,

659
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,360
and then I proceeded back to the command center. I

660
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,639
wanted to see if this was in fact the type

661
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,800
of bike that the tip was speaking about, the on

662
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:18,679
road off road style bike. Possibly it was and so

663
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,079
at that point we made a determination to go back

664
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,679
out there, make contact with the homeowner and gather some

665
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,880
more information about the bike.

666
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,119
Speaker 4: When he returned to the house, the motorcycle was gone.

667
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,480
They questioned the homeowner, who told them that the bike

668
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:37,840
belonged to a friend of his, James Vencallis. They found

669
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,119
his address through motor vehicle records and wants to go

670
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:44,039
pay him the visit. Say hello, hi.

671
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 16: James went to the front door, knocked on the door.

672
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,880
An older gentleman answered. I asked to speak to James

673
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,119
van Callis. He said he was James Vancallis. I asked

674
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,760
him if there was another James van Callis, maybe a son.

675
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,039
Speaker 1: He said there was.

676
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 16: I asked him if I could talk to him. He

677
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:05,719
yelled in the house for James van Cals or James

678
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,639
awready called him. At that time the defendant came to

679
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,440
the door. He ended up coming out on the porch.

680
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,599
The original James van Cals to answer the door. It

681
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,920
was a determined later that's his father. He also came

682
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,519
out on the porch as well as a female came

683
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:25,280
out on the porch.

684
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 4: Thirty two year old James Donald ben Callis lived with

685
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,119
his father, sixty six year old James Bernard ben Callis.

686
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:40,480
Everyone called him Jim. His mother, Brenda Poopy also lived

687
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,679
there and yes that's really her name. His girlfriend, Crystal Stabler,

688
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,039
also lived there too, along with their three year old

689
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:53,719
James kind of fits the description too. He has a

690
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,679
slender build and other than the hair, he looks like

691
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,920
the composite sketch.

692
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 16: I asked the defendant some questions.

693
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: What did you ask?

694
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,639
Speaker 16: I told him we were doing an investigation in Armida.

695
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,679
I asked him if he was in Armida the day before.

696
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,559
Speaker 3: He said he was.

697
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,599
Speaker 4: He cooperated with the officers and answered their questions, albeit vaguely.

698
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,559
He gave approximate times for his whereabouts that day. He

699
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:23,840
said he left home on his bike at around five

700
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,760
pm and he ran by his friend's house, but he

701
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,199
wasn't home. He continued to Armida and stopped at the

702
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,519
Marathon gas station to rest a bit. The seat on

703
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,920
the bike was a bit uncomfortable. Then he went to

704
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:38,760
his brother's house.

705
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: It was casual.

706
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:44,119
Speaker 13: It was just us, you know, askeding about you know,

707
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,679
his his wharebouls and everything in Armida, and it was

708
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,960
very casual, very.

709
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:52,159
Speaker 32: Front And what about the next morning, about twelve hours later,

710
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,199
when you asked him the riccy happened.

711
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 6: It was it was so friendly and he was busy,

712
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:02,679
but it was so Did you have contact with him

713
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:08,760
then later in the day hard waves and yes, a phone.

714
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 16: I initially called him later in the afternoon there was

715
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:15,519
no answer.

716
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,679
Speaker 6: I left the message and then received a phone call.

717
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 3: Back from him and.

718
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,039
Speaker 6: Yes, yes I did, and what was back? He was

719
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,639
very upset, uh to the point where he was I

720
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,679
rate on the phone.

721
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 13: He was yelling at me down the phone, telling me

722
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,000
that it was a witch hunt, that we are trying

723
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:42,239
to call and talk to all kinds of people and

724
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,840
take people cell phones.

725
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,119
Speaker 6: It was just more of an out of control typephone call.

726
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,519
Speaker 4: James ben Callis didn't like the police because he had

727
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,760
a record. In two thousand and five, he was convicted

728
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,239
of breaking and entering, for which he got probation. Then

729
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719
in two thousand and seven, he was convicted of failure

730
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,000
to pay child support and sentenced to five years probation.

731
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,039
He quickly violated that probation by continuing not to pay

732
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:15,400
child support and was put in prison for about a year.

733
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,960
When April was murdered, he hadn't been out of prison

734
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,639
that long. The elder Van Callis also had a record,

735
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,920
but is that really a surprise. In nineteen ninety five,

736
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,559
he pleaded guilty to two counts of criminal sexual conduct.

737
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,760
One victim was between thirteen and fifteen years of age

738
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:40,960
and the other well, the other was younger than thirteen.

739
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:48,920
He is a registered sex offender. James was in Armada

740
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:54,639
that day and at that time he owned an Enduro

741
00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,519
style motorcycle and he fit the description well enough. When

742
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,760
the police conduct an investigation, they follow a lead until

743
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,800
it bears fruit or fizzles out. They started to investigate

744
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,400
him and tried to verify his story. Either he did

745
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,639
it or they would have to rule him out. But

746
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,480
James didn't like being investigated and quickly went from cooperative

747
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,920
to combative. So they took their suspicions to the judge.

748
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,679
Speaker 6: We didn't have a good search warrant.

749
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:29,599
Speaker 19: To judge went and sign it.

750
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: We wouldn't be there.

751
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 24: He is a person of interest in our investigation in Armida.

752
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 16: We are looking at him.

753
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,639
Speaker 4: After trying to contact James several times to get a

754
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:41,400
written statement and ask a few more questions, they were

755
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,760
only met with hostility, so they filed for a search

756
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,400
warrant for his residents. The FBI, Michigan State Police, the

757
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:56,079
McComb County Sheriff's Office, and the Armada Police descended on

758
00:44:56,199 --> 00:45:00,679
the Van Callis property, some fifteen miles northeast st of Armida.

759
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,480
James immediately protested and there.

760
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 16: Was other details that we wanted to discuss with you,

761
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:09,480
and we're not able to get them.

762
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 20: How do we how do we do it?

763
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 14: My back?

764
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: Did I put my friend?

765
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:13,559
Speaker 14: My parents?

766
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,039
Speaker 33: I put my foot and you're not doing that, Jimmy.

767
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 16: It's gotta stop generalizing everybody, because everybody out.

768
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: Here is if somebody touched your parents.

769
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 14: What would I do if somebody touch my parents?

770
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 16: Well, not being in possession, you're in and they're coming

771
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:28,599
to my house and doing a search.

772
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,039
Speaker 1: One't So it's hard for me to say arbitrarily.

773
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: If somebody sends me wonder you wonder.

774
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 14: We're here it We were walking right up here, We

775
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,800
are here, we are here, we are don't shoot. Here's

776
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,840
our hands, here's our hands and they're dragging us.

777
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 9: Right, he's just talking.

778
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 15: I'm not nervous.

779
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 6: I know I'm nervous. You are too.

780
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 15: Don't starts about once because.

781
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: You got FBI, State Police and sheriffs here.

782
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 10: I would.

783
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,639
Speaker 14: I'm nervous kissing ship the same way I was Julie

784
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:58,440
watching mouth.

785
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,559
Speaker 6: That is true.

786
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 14: You can't go anywhere without getting your next step done.

787
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 9: Apparently you can't ride your.

788
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 14: Motorcycle pour An here on because somebody's gonna say something.

789
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 10: You're gonna get your next steps on.

790
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,639
Speaker 4: The team that first served the warrant was apparently a

791
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,320
little rough with the Van Callises. James was complaining about

792
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,639
how his parents were treated and that his neck was

793
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,719
stepped on. He didn't want to answer any questions about

794
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,000
April's murder. An outright refused to provide a written statement

795
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,320
for what he already said.

796
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 14: I'm not right nothing or even the best. That's a

797
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,960
form of a mission, and I'm not going to say

798
00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:38,519
they have.

799
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,559
Speaker 6: Some variant from my story.

800
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,519
Speaker 14: I gave you in my written one and have ah

801
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:45,800
fuck that shit.

802
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 6: I gave you two savans.

803
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,119
Speaker 28: Other than that, I don't recall anything of that name.

804
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: These questions seemed to trigger his anger. He began fluctuating

805
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:01,239
between two extreme emotions. One moment he was calm and collected,

806
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,400
and the next he flew into a blind rage.

807
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 6: James, give me staff that we can't get.

808
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 32: Right now, okay, because if you're gonna raise your voice

809
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:24,920
like that, well I got no problem.

810
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,039
Speaker 10: Boy.

811
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: James got quite a bit of a temper when he

812
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,280
gets going on.

813
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 16: You don't like it when he's court, Well, it sounds

814
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,639
like when he's when he's not in charge.

815
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: It sounds why you gotta be so rude to us?

816
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,480
Can you be nice for two seconds?

817
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 19: You have to be rude?

818
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,639
Speaker 14: Give me, I want hitting the car?

819
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: Shut up.

820
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: The officer was right, James didn't like it when he

821
00:47:56,639 --> 00:48:01,599
wasn't in charge. In fact, that was evident every time

822
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,360
he opened his loud mouth. When he wasn't berating them

823
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,760
at the top of his lungs, he was threatening the

824
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,199
officers with a lawsuit.

825
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,079
Speaker 14: So you guys through my door with a warrant just

826
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,079
for material that's not.

827
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 32: I gotta look good.

828
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,159
Speaker 30: There was well, there were some allegations that you know,

829
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,599
you were hot headed and there was some weapons in

830
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:25,519
the in the house.

831
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,039
Speaker 6: Who had allegations of that?

832
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: Who's the accuser?

833
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:30,519
Speaker 1: Boy?

834
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:31,079
Speaker 3: I can't tell you.

835
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:34,119
Speaker 14: All right, they turn up.

836
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:34,519
Speaker 31: On you out.

837
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 30: Yeah, you sound like a smart guy, man, I mean,

838
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,400
did you ever think about going to college or was

839
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,920
that not on the radar for you.

840
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 14: Or people that go to college are the ones that

841
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,800
can't learn from the book.

842
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,599
Speaker 20: Yeah.

843
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:51,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a hard stance to take when you're an uneducated, unemployed,

844
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:54,880
thirty two year old who spent time in prison for

845
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,000
not paying child support. But it didn't stop James from

846
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:02,960
trying to sound smart and make things personal.

847
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:07,119
Speaker 14: What your hand, don't make me sue you as an individual,

848
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:10,280
I'll put a personal mean on your house. I'll put

849
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,440
a you.

850
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 6: You came here, you respond, yes, sir? You assue me

851
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,800
in the car, I'll wait. Oh god, So anyway, I'm done.

852
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,559
Speaker 11: I got to tell you, ma'm I'm sorry, but I'm

853
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:27,559
done putting up with him.

854
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 27: I'm done.

855
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,639
Speaker 16: I only have patience so long that I try to

856
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:34,559
get people an understanding, you know. But then when he

857
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,920
when he starts making it a little more personal, I'm

858
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,480
not going to sit here listening to him.

859
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: Making your mother's gonna arrest you. I hope that's a

860
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,079
threaten man will don't don't get.

861
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: And when he wasn't threatening a lawsuit, he was letting

862
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,440
the officers know how he really feels about them.

863
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 14: Every time, man, every time you show up, it's always enoughing,

864
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,360
but bad news. It's never good. I mean, I probably

865
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,920
told you sometimes I don't even want to pull over

866
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,159
when they're pulling me over. You know what, I'm the

867
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,760
kind of guy who wants to slam on his brakes

868
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,480
and make you asking me and hope that I hurt

869
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:09,719
you and not no offense, because that's the way they

870
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,360
make me feeling no offense.

871
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,119
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean.

872
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 14: But you framed me out and I slammed on the brakes.

873
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,360
I'm sorry they you went through the windshield kind of shit,

874
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,679
you know. I mean, they fucked with me too much.

875
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:20,559
I want to give him a piece of my mind.

876
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,400
But when it comes to my homegun anytime, I can

877
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,440
give him a piece of my mind.

878
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 6: Fucking people.

879
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 14: Hey, when you leave, I hope you wrap your cruiser

880
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,159
around a fucking telephone ball.

881
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: James seems to have a cruel disregard for the police,

882
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:40,280
perhaps everyone as well, well everyone except maybe this one

883
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,079
FBI agent situation like this.

884
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:45,559
Speaker 14: I wouldn't normally say this, but you're pretty I was

885
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:46,480
telling him in the house.

886
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 6: I said, they're allows.

887
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: Amid the multi agency search of his home, he decided

888
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,760
to hit on the blonde FBI agent hubba hubba.

889
00:50:58,039 --> 00:50:58,159
Speaker 6: You know.

890
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, that was one of those work for the But

891
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,800
I'm so much of a criminal. Abody a chance gonna

892
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:09,280
have your card? Is it because I us in my backyard?

893
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,320
Maybe how about you take my number?

894
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,519
Speaker 31: And probably.

895
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 14: Mom? I was hitting on her and she told me

896
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,079
to leave me, leave her alone. I was hitting on her,

897
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:25,599
She told me to leave her alone. I asked her

898
00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:27,880
for her phone number, and she says, and I go, well,

899
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,679
if you don't won't take mine, can I give you mine?

900
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,519
Speaker 1: She's like, I won't call.

901
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 6: I'm like that with every girl.

902
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, you know what it is.

903
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 14: You can't help myself?

904
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 6: She blushed.

905
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: It he couldn't help himself. He was like that with

906
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,239
every woman he met. In fact, he was so preoccupied

907
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,119
by this woman that the officers had to ask her

908
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:52,639
to leave.

909
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 30: Tell this young blonde lady and to stay away because.

910
00:51:55,679 --> 00:51:56,639
Speaker 3: He keep getting the bed.

911
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,039
Speaker 4: Once they had his whole attention, they lit't know why

912
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,360
they were there.

913
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 6: What's that you said he's got? But he says he's

914
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,000
got me in Arvado forty minutes.

915
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: That's on account for it.

916
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,159
Speaker 30: Well, and that's just to inform you why we're here.

917
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: What brought it here the third time.

918
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 14: So I'm not a suspect, but you have there's forty

919
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,519
minutes that did't'count for my.

920
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:21,599
Speaker 3: Brother's that right? Well, well, I'm wanting to talk to

921
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:22,079
you about it.

922
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 16: If you're if you're on a bike.

923
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 14: They're just in town and we're looking.

924
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,039
Speaker 21: For somebody right now at the top.

925
00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 6: You on a bike, and I hope you everything I know?

926
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 14: Okay, hold time. The forty minutes is exactly how I

927
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,360
said it. If you're trying to remember, make me remember

928
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,519
time now. I don't recall.

929
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 27: I really don't.

930
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,639
Speaker 3: And that's what's the time.

931
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,599
Speaker 14: It's been some time now. I don't think I couldn't.

932
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 31: That's why I tried to do it the other day.

933
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 6: I wish you would.

934
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,639
Speaker 1: Why don't you have me write down when you were here?

935
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

936
00:52:44,199 --> 00:52:46,599
Speaker 6: I don't remember anything now is what do.

937
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 14: You recall the second time I came here?

938
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: It was very late at night.

939
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,079
Speaker 16: You're in your box your first time. No, I know,

940
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,079
I had to back up myself in the middle of

941
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:56,280
my sentence. The first time we come it's late at night.

942
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 15: We know we pull people out of bed.

943
00:52:58,079 --> 00:52:59,679
Speaker 1: So the next day when I come here, what was

944
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,599
the first thing I said?

945
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,079
Speaker 16: Can we go write all of this down?

946
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,159
Speaker 20: Nope, I'm busy.

947
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 4: He claimed that he didn't remember specifics now it had

948
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,840
been a long time. Just to clarify, this was July thirtieth,

949
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,800
only six days after April's murder.

950
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 14: No, going through a town that someone gets murdering does

951
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,199
not make your mother's suspect.

952
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,679
Speaker 6: And we never had have you heard of it?

953
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,199
Speaker 4: Does?

954
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 15: Well?

955
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,519
Speaker 31: You know what, that's a good point.

956
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 34: You made a good But at the time this happens, absolutely,

957
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:31,920
you're right.

958
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: Anybody and everybody could be a suspect.

959
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: Right, anybody and everybody could be a suspect. But not

960
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:42,880
everyone owned a motorcycle and helmet just like the ones

961
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,840
described by witnesses. Not everyone was wearing clothes that matched

962
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:55,039
the description. Just James ven Callis was. But they weren't

963
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,000
there just to ask questions. They were there to prove it.

964
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 15: So where's my bike going day? And she's in my bike?

965
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:12,960
Ride on my fucking bike today, you're going.

966
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,639
Speaker 6: To get a rescue?

967
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 3: No, not.

968
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: Gonna get your rescue?

969
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 4: And when it don't look at Ham, his mother just

970
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,639
wanted to let them do their job. Honestly, he was

971
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,559
protesting way too much. It made it seem like he

972
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:34,599
had something to hide, and he was hiding something. You see,

973
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,519
the Van Kalis family had a large marijuana grow operation.

974
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,960
This isn't necessarily illegal, as Michigan allows marijuana medically and

975
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:51,360
allows people to grow their own. You can even grow

976
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,960
plants for other people who have their medical cards. The

977
00:54:56,159 --> 00:54:59,920
problem is you're only allowed to have twelve plants maximum

978
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:05,199
for each cardholder. That's thirty six plants. The Van Callis

979
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,599
family had fifty two, and I guess the stress of

980
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:13,119
the situation was getting to them because all they wanted

981
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:16,320
to do was to take their medicine.

982
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,119
Speaker 14: We're not breaking the laws sold whoever's in church.

983
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 6: I had it on my If I had a joint

984
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,840
right here, right, we'd let it up right now.

985
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 14: There's not a damn thing you can say about round

986
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,840
private joint up federal.

987
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,079
Speaker 30: You can say you have a federal one agency here

988
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:30,639
with this guy.

989
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,519
Speaker 1: But I don't make a ship.

990
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 6: I don't give a shit.

991
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,679
Speaker 3: We have a well sung on my left.

992
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: Kno, even if your state allows medical or recreational marijuana,

993
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,880
it's still illegal federally. The Van Callis men weren't getting

994
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,840
out of this one unscathed. Both father and son were

995
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,679
arrested on drug charges. The authorities seized his bike and helmet,

996
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,559
along with the clothes he said he was wearing the

997
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:02,119
day of the murder. They took his pants, his shirt,

998
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,440
and his shoes. The one thing they couldn't find was

999
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:12,840
his hoodie, which had been accidentally thrown away. The pants

1000
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,440
had what might be blood on the cuff, but the

1001
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,920
real reason they were there were for his shoes.

1002
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,559
Speaker 34: The imprints on the victim's neck were so significant, him

1003
00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:29,519
vivid that we felt that if we could find those

1004
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:31,840
shoes that we could match.

1005
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,079
Speaker 4: Up whoever killed April stomped on her neck so hard

1006
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,920
it left an imprint of the bottom of the shoe.

1007
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:45,519
It was also so hard that it collapsed her airway,

1008
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:50,000
ultimately leading to her death. But when they checked the

1009
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:54,239
shoes that James said he wore that day, they didn't match.

1010
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:58,559
The Van Callists men would remain under police custody under

1011
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:02,519
federal drug charges while the authorities tried to find more

1012
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:48,199
evidence connecting him to April's murder. After the murder of

1013
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,719
April millsap on the Macomb Orchard Trail one evening in

1014
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,000
July twenty fourteen, the police were looking for a person

1015
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,880
on a motorcycle, and the one with the motorcycle was

1016
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,519
the last one to see April alive, according to statements

1017
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,920
by many witnesses. When they discovered James Van Callis owned

1018
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,000
a motorcycle like the one described, they asked him a

1019
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:19,079
few more questions. When he became evasive and hostile. The

1020
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:23,599
authorities got a search warrant for his house. They wanted

1021
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:26,800
to see if the shoes he wore that day matched

1022
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,000
the tread pattern found on April's neck. Little did they

1023
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:37,480
know they would discover a large marijuana grow operation. Both

1024
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,880
James and his father, Jim were arrested on federal drug charges.

1025
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,760
They sat in jail while the authorities tried to build

1026
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:51,039
their case against James. Months would go by and the

1027
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,079
police would redo interviews and try to find out as

1028
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:59,519
much as they could, gathering all of the circumstantial evidence.

1029
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,119
After serving the search warrant and seizing all of his stuff,

1030
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:11,639
they didn't find anything. They didn't find DNA fingerprints, hair, nothing,

1031
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:17,239
and the shoes he said he wore didn't match the pattern.

1032
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:21,360
So they talked to his father, who seemed a little

1033
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,360
too comfortable in his orange jump seat.

1034
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 3: Did Jimmy Udis murdered that earl.

1035
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 14: No, they didn't kill that earl. No, even by accident.

1036
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 19: No, how you know, I don't.

1037
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,119
Speaker 14: I don't want my son knowing all.

1038
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 6: My kids he can run on a straight arrow for

1039
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:44,280
the last while, for the last year anyway, because of

1040
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,920
a year before leading in prison.

1041
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:49,679
Speaker 4: He didn't think his son was capable of doing such

1042
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:53,400
a thing, you know, because he turned a few new

1043
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:58,039
leaves over or some shit in prison. So the officer

1044
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:01,079
tried to paint a scenario to see if it changed

1045
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:01,639
his mind.

1046
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: He've got that explosive temper, and maybe something just went

1047
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,039
too far that day.

1048
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,119
Speaker 6: There's a chance encounter. Maybe. You know how Jimmy is

1049
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:11,760
with the lady.

1050
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,119
Speaker 4: He's a lady man.

1051
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 6: Wait, the lady man, the extra cargoon, and so many

1052
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,599
rejects him.

1053
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 10: He's done.

1054
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 21: This is too well, now, that.

1055
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,679
Speaker 6: Don't happen that way. It don't happen. Well, it's not

1056
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,480
it's not like.

1057
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 26: You know, he doesn't know the consequences of what would

1058
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,840
happen something.

1059
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 3: Most are really not you know, people's personality town.

1060
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 6: You know, I'm on a lifetime registry.

1061
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,559
Speaker 1: He knows this.

1062
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,719
Speaker 6: He's lived with it for the last twenty years, with him,

1063
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:41,440
so he knows.

1064
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:45,239
Speaker 4: So you know, his son wouldn't have lost his temper

1065
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,159
because he would have never talked to an underage girl.

1066
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,880
He knew better. Messing around with little girls leads to trouble.

1067
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:56,519
It was a lesson he learned from his father, a

1068
01:00:56,639 --> 01:01:01,039
registered sex offender. Another lesson he earned from his father,

1069
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,599
the self profaned asshole, was not to beat women they

1070
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:06,239
charged for the.

1071
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,159
Speaker 6: Whole time that we've done. Whether I do euro up

1072
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:12,760
all time, Yeah, that's why I'm still with her, still

1073
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,480
making it up.

1074
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,599
Speaker 3: Do you think give me your to pick up some

1075
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:16,119
of your.

1076
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 6: Bad habage from there? No, he wouldn't be beating up

1077
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,239
all the girlfriends.

1078
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:23,079
Speaker 3: But you've never seen an be of the show. Friend,

1079
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:25,480
there is no even the girlfriends never said anything.

1080
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: Nobody ever said anything.

1081
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 4: He knew his son and just didn't think he was

1082
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,840
capable of murder. He'd been on the straight and narrow

1083
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:38,440
for nearly a year. He went on to support his

1084
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:42,199
claim by saying his son is a thief, not a murderer.

1085
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:47,039
But that's not really a very strong argument. It would

1086
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:51,480
take until October twenty fourteen for the county to finally

1087
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:52,880
press charges.

1088
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:57,159
Speaker 25: In cooperation with the Armida Police Department, Michigan State Police,

1089
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,519
mccon County Sheriff's Department, and Federal Bureau of Investigation. Today

1090
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:08,199
we announced charges against James Donald van Kallis for the

1091
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,960
murder of April down Milsap in the city of Armada.

1092
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:16,599
Speaker 4: He was charged with first degree premeditated murder for the

1093
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:21,599
amount of time it takes to exphyxiate a person. Surely

1094
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,639
he had time to change his mind or call for help.

1095
01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:29,639
They also charged him with assault with intent to commit

1096
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:35,280
sexual penetration because it was clear what his intention was

1097
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,360
before he got interrupted, killed her, and then ran away.

1098
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:44,920
Of course, in all his worldly knowledge from all the

1099
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:48,559
books he read instead of going to college, James pleaded

1100
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,519
not guilty and proceeded to trial. In the trial, the

1101
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,519
prosecution paraded around witness after witness that placed him on

1102
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:01,800
the trail that day. They all saw a different little

1103
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,599
piece of the picture. One noticed his clothes, a couple

1104
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:10,480
others noticed his eyes, and one woman saw his face.

1105
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:16,679
All these pieces put together described James. They went over

1106
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,519
April's GPS data and created a map of her last movements.

1107
01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:24,079
They pointed out that all of a sudden, her phone

1108
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:27,400
was moving at twenty two miles an hour. When they

1109
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:32,039
cross reference to the timestamps with local surveillance systems, they

1110
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:36,199
saw a picture of a man on an Enduro motorcycle

1111
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:41,639
that was blue and white. They talked about the shoes

1112
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,960
they seized and how they didn't match the pattern on

1113
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,000
April's neck. They theorized he destroyed the real shoes he

1114
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:51,679
was wearing that day. He said he was wearing a

1115
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,480
pair of k Swiss tennis shoes, but the one witness

1116
01:03:55,519 --> 01:04:00,280
specifically remembered high tops pictures from social media. Should he

1117
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,000
owned a pair of high top Nike air Jordan's flight

1118
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:08,960
the power addition, the point is that these particular shoes

1119
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,239
match the tread pattern on the victim's neck. I guess

1120
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:19,480
that's the power. They were referring to, the power of

1121
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:23,559
the state att someting to arrest a criminal. They also

1122
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,840
talked about the lack of DNA found on the helmet

1123
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:31,960
the theorized weapon he used to incapacitate her. It wasn't

1124
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,480
that they didn't find April's DNA, it was that they

1125
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:41,239
didn't find any DNA at all. The helmet had obviously

1126
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,960
been cleaned inside and now, but their star witness was

1127
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:54,599
James's ex girlfriend Crystal Stapler. She described him as controlling

1128
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,159
and abusive.

1129
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 28: What about if he wanted to use the computer during

1130
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:04,639
the day, I couldn't. Was there a home following it

1131
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:07,840
in there in your portion of the house?

1132
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:08,079
Speaker 27: No?

1133
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,119
Speaker 6: If James was how would you communicate with through.

1134
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 10: His mom or dad?

1135
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 6: Did James have a phone yes? Did James have a

1136
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,199
driver's license yes? Did James have a computer yes? Did

1137
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,599
James have a car yes?

1138
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 3: Did you have a car?

1139
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:25,079
Speaker 10: No?

1140
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 6: Why not? It wasn't well, but you had the same

1141
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,000
with the driver's license. Was he controlling these aspects of

1142
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:34,480
your life?

1143
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,159
Speaker 3: Yes?

1144
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: He controlled her to the point that she feared him.

1145
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:42,920
Because of this, she wasn't immediately truthful with police.

1146
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:46,519
Speaker 6: Why is it that you're not telling him everything right away?

1147
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:52,800
Why don't you scared up James? Why are you scared

1148
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,280
of James?

1149
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,719
Speaker 1: Because he was abusive, been controlling?

1150
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 6: He ever hit you? Yes?

1151
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:04,639
Speaker 4: It seemed like he did, in fact pick up Dad's

1152
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:09,480
bad habit. She went on to recall the night April died.

1153
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:13,519
Speaker 6: Would you describe how he is dressed when he leaves

1154
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:17,320
the house of a white T shirt with football logos

1155
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,239
on it and gray camel pants.

1156
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: And his black and white shoes.

1157
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 6: What type of shoes was he wearing?

1158
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,079
Speaker 4: Her testimony contradicted James's statement that he wore the case

1159
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:35,440
Swiss shoes, but this wasn't the only damning evidence. She

1160
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:38,119
recalled that when he returned that night, he was acting

1161
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,880
normal until he thought she was sleeping.

1162
01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: I wake up and see him cleaning his shoes?

1163
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 6: Okay? And what part of the shoe is he cleaning? Okay?

1164
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,559
And you ever seen him clean and shoes before?

1165
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: When she asked why he was cleaning his shoes, he

1166
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,760
said because he got oil on him. She didn't question

1167
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,360
him further, even though the middle of the night seemed

1168
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,119
like a really weird time to be cleaning your shoes.

1169
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,559
After that, she never saw those shoes again.

1170
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:12,159
Speaker 32: Does he say anything to you when he comes back

1171
01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:15,719
to bed, Yeah, that he messed up and he needed

1172
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,519
me to stand by.

1173
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 6: His side when he first comes back into bed. Has

1174
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,400
his demeanor toward you changed?

1175
01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1176
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,079
Speaker 6: How is his demeanor now? Love? Was it that way

1177
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:29,519
when the Julie was a bed several hours earlier?

1178
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:30,079
Speaker 10: No?

1179
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 6: When his move like that changes, what does that means you?

1180
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 22: He did something wrong?

1181
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 4: While he didn't admit to anything specifically, the timing of

1182
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:48,400
this statement to Crystal was suspicious, but the following day

1183
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:51,400
she found something even more suspicious.

1184
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 6: How you asked to wash his clothes?

1185
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted me to do a little laundry, Okay.

1186
01:07:59,039 --> 01:07:59,719
Speaker 27: Is that you?

1187
01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1188
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:02,719
Speaker 10: Why?

1189
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,719
Speaker 1: Because he never really wanted.

1190
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 6: Me to wash his clothes.

1191
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: He wore the same clothes all the time.

1192
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 6: What were you ask to wash on the morning of

1193
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,679
the twenty five the car.

1194
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:15,559
Speaker 3: Hard heading in his pants in that shirt?

1195
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,039
Speaker 28: Did you find something unusual in the car art jacket

1196
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:20,319
after you washed?

1197
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:21,039
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1198
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 6: What was it that you found?

1199
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 3: Like wanted up hair and like shavings of grass or

1200
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,079
phil like hay.

1201
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Speaker 4: She didn't recognize the hay as anything from the yard,

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01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:36,600
and the hair certainly wasn't hers. All of this odd

1203
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,720
behavior she kept to herself, Like when James gave his

1204
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,640
family instructions, what was he telling to.

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,159
Speaker 1: Everybody in the house to tell him that he was

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01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:47,279
wearing case with shoes?

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 6: Was he wearing case Swiss.

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,239
Speaker 3: Shoes that night?

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01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,199
Speaker 4: No. Out of fear for James, she wouldn't tell police

1210
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:57,680
any of this until the third interview, when she knew

1211
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:01,920
he was already in jail. All of this information really

1212
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:05,600
cast James in a bad light. But it did fit

1213
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,319
the theory that James hit on young April that day

1214
01:09:10,039 --> 01:09:15,079
on the trail when she rebuffed his advance, he hit

1215
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,920
her over the head with his helmet. He dragged her

1216
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:23,319
into the bushes. He started to assault her when Amy

1217
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,039
rode by on her bike. He got nervous, abandoned his plan,

1218
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,359
stomped her to death, and fled. And just in case

1219
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,439
any of the jurors were on the fence about this theory,

1220
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,439
they read off some of James's Google search history. Here

1221
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:45,119
are just a few excerpts. Do young girls like older men?

1222
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:48,479
Why would this girl say I'm too old for her

1223
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,399
and still hit on me? What does it mean when

1224
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,039
a girl tells you that she has a boyfriend? How

1225
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,760
to have sex with a girl? How to make a

1226
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,279
g girl who does not want you want you? Notice

1227
01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:08,079
the key phrases in all of those searches. He wants

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01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:11,199
to know how to get a girl, not a woman.

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01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:17,239
Needless to say, the jurors weren't on the fence at all.

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,279
Speaker 32: The biggest line of garbage I've ever heard.

1231
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,199
Speaker 4: The evidence is just overwhelming.

1232
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:27,079
Speaker 32: Circumstantial as it may be, it's still overwhelming evidence. Count one,

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:34,800
first degree premeditated murder, we find it offended guilty. Count two,

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01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:38,560
first degree fell any murder, you find it offended.

1235
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:39,319
Speaker 1: Guilty.

1236
01:10:40,039 --> 01:10:43,079
Speaker 32: Free kidnapping, we find it offended.

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01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:46,199
Speaker 6: Guilty. Count four assault ale.

1238
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 32: Intent to commit sexual penetration, we find it offended guilty.

1239
01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 4: James was found guilty on all counts. He tried to

1240
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,600
remain stoic when the verdict was read, but he had

1241
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,479
a little eye twitch when he heard the decision. April's

1242
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,239
family erupted into celebration as he was led from the court.

1243
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:14,159
At his sentencing, April's mom, Jennifer, gave her statement, I

1244
01:11:14,279 --> 01:11:14,640
help the.

1245
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,199
Speaker 12: Rain pierces you like bullets. I help the sun burned

1246
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:24,159
to like fire burnt skin. I help the four walls

1247
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,359
closed it on you and Tokyo.

1248
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,279
Speaker 3: I hope those steal barns are your only friends.

1249
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:35,199
Speaker 33: I hope and you close your eyes, you see only

1250
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:41,439
April over and over and over again. You will die

1251
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,800
behind those bars alone. I hope that the inmates know

1252
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:50,520
that what you did, because.

1253
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: I hear the bunishment can be very ugly.

1254
01:11:55,279 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 12: I hope they say all their rage and anger just

1255
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:03,720
for you, you, James, I damn thief.

1256
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: You're still on beautiful daughtist life. I pity you, and

1257
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,079
I hate you, and I can never forgive you.

1258
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:18,119
Speaker 4: Her pain was palpable. She thanked the judge and sat down,

1259
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:24,560
sniffing into a tissue. Next, James addressed the court once again,

1260
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,640
demonstrating his intelligence or lack thereof.

1261
01:12:29,319 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 14: Well, first off is that there is no evidence that

1262
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,079
shows that I've done anything wrong. There is nobody that

1263
01:12:37,159 --> 01:12:40,119
can say they've seen me commit any crime. There is

1264
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:43,840
nobody that can id or has id my motorcycle as

1265
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,800
being on that trail that day. None of the witnesses

1266
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:53,000
could positively positively identify me. They said that they seen eyes,

1267
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,000
which is if that's the case, how many people have

1268
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:59,279
eyes that are that shape. This is a sad chain

1269
01:12:59,359 --> 01:13:05,039
of events that somehow I'm wrapped up. Then I don't

1270
01:13:05,079 --> 01:13:09,359
know how to have an atta family understand that I

1271
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:14,359
don't know her. I've never met her. I I'd never

1272
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,399
seen her before.

1273
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:19,319
Speaker 4: He goes on like this for a while before he

1274
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:22,920
starts complaining about inconsistencies and discovery files.

1275
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,039
Speaker 14: There's a fraud that's been perpetuated in this case by

1276
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,800
whoever put the case together to put it on that

1277
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,479
hard drive. My attorney has witnessed. I have brought it

1278
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,880
up to my attorney several times. He could testify right here,

1279
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,319
right now, if you were to ask him if what

1280
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,399
I'm saying is the truth.

1281
01:13:41,239 --> 01:13:42,079
Speaker 1: The reality is.

1282
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 6: I understand that you're on her, but.

1283
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: Please, I didn't interrupt you.

1284
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:48,399
Speaker 21: Thank you.

1285
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,199
Speaker 2: The reality is we're here to send you anything you

1286
01:13:52,319 --> 01:13:53,760
want to say regarding an appeel.

1287
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: You can do that as soon as you're done with me.

1288
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,279
Speaker 14: I'm just asking for emotion for child the noble on

1289
01:13:59,359 --> 01:14:01,159
the grounds that time.

1290
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,039
Speaker 4: This idiot was arguing appellate issues and trying to call

1291
01:14:05,399 --> 01:14:09,960
for a mistrial at the sentencing. Does nobody watch law

1292
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,840
and order anymore?

1293
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 1: Asked to the star of the first degree murder, it

1294
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,159
says of the four that you served life in prison

1295
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:17,800
with no chance to parol.

1296
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 4: Shortly after his tirade, he was sentenced to life in

1297
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:27,439
prison for first degree murder, another life term for felony murder,

1298
01:14:28,359 --> 01:14:31,960
eighteen years and nine months for kidnapping, and six years

1299
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,720
and eight months for assault with intent to commit sexual penetration.

1300
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,640
I don't think I have to add that up for you,

1301
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,000
but it's more than necessary. Really, I'm not sure there's

1302
01:14:42,119 --> 01:14:46,319
much more you need after life. Immediately following the sentencing,

1303
01:14:46,359 --> 01:14:49,960
his mother claimed her son was framed because the authorities

1304
01:14:50,079 --> 01:14:54,239
needed to pin it on someone. Yeah, that's how idiots

1305
01:14:54,279 --> 01:14:57,560
think the system works. Cops don't work on a quota people.

1306
01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:02,159
Maybe prosecutors, but not cops. Later, in a phone interview

1307
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:05,520
from prison, James claimed his ex girlfriend was told what

1308
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,840
to say on the stand and forced to testify or

1309
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,319
else her kids would be taken away. I'm not sure

1310
01:15:12,399 --> 01:15:18,960
that CPS does that either, but okay, James whatever. A

1311
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,399
couple of years after his incarceration, he would file for appeal,

1312
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,199
citing a bunch of reasons he probably thought would work.

1313
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:33,840
It was denied. James Donald van Callis remains in prison

1314
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:40,000
to this day. Meanwhile, the village of Armada started to heal.

1315
01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:44,600
They built a memorial park for April at the Fulton

1316
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,600
Street entrance to the trail, and four years after her death,

1317
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,359
the high school presented her mother with an honorary diploma.

1318
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,399
James van Callis thought he was above the law. He

1319
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,960
saw himself as superior. He thought that the law didn't

1320
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,640
apply to him. The truth, however, was far from that.

1321
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,279
He still wasn't paying child support, He controlled many aspects

1322
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:17,600
of his girlfriend's life and manipulated her constantly. He was

1323
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,920
growing more than the legally allowed amount of marijuana and

1324
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:25,920
speeding through town on his bike without a motorcycle license.

1325
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,000
He was riding on a trail where it wasn't allowed,

1326
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,279
And all of that could have been forgiven if he

1327
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:39,039
hadn't hit on a fourteen year old girl on a

1328
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:45,079
remote walking trail and then flew into a rage when

1329
01:16:45,159 --> 01:16:48,920
she denied him. And in fact, while we're on it,

1330
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,119
why hit on a young girl? Why hit on a

1331
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:58,920
girl at all if you have a girlfriend at home, Well, James,

1332
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:02,600
that's because you don't give a shit about anyone else's

1333
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:07,600
feelings except your own. You put your desire above and

1334
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:14,560
ahead of anyone and everyone. This pursuit for validation in

1335
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,279
the eyes of a young girl who was just mining

1336
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:24,039
her own business led to your downfall. Amy interrupted this

1337
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:28,159
baby man, which is the only reason April millsap wasn't

1338
01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:32,840
sexually assaulted. In addition to being murdered, James van Callis

1339
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:39,319
was callous, utterly indifferent to the law and to the

1340
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:44,760
rules we've agreed upon in society, these rules that we

1341
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,680
have because the end of the day, We're all human.

1342
01:17:49,239 --> 01:17:52,560
We all make mistakes, we all do things we shouldn't.

1343
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:58,760
At times, we sometimes even break the law. But there

1344
01:17:59,039 --> 01:18:08,199
is a distinction. There is a differentiation between us and them,

1345
01:18:09,079 --> 01:18:12,479
because some of us will get up day after day

1346
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,119
after day and even though we know at the end

1347
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:20,680
of the day we'll fail. We will be imperfect, we

1348
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:25,640
will make mistakes, we may even occasionally hurt someone. At

1349
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,000
least we tried to put in the effort to be

1350
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,159
a better person. At least we're the kind of people

1351
01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:46,880
that try. Thank you so much for joining us once again.

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