Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Tony from Hack the Movies here and what
Speaker 1: you're about to see coming up was the first episode
Speaker 1: of Bloodline a hell Raiser Show, a Patreon slash YouTube
Speaker 1: channel member exclusive series I've been doing over the last
Speaker 1: year with my cousin Monica. As you'll find out, she's not,
Speaker 1: or she wasn't the biggest fan of Pinhead, and I
Speaker 1: thought it'd be funny to make her review every single
Speaker 1: hell Raiser movie. The series is now done. You can
Speaker 1: watch every single episode on Patreon or by becoming a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel member for as little as two dollars a month.
Speaker 1: You get all the bonus videos at that tier. Now listen.
Speaker 1: If you don't want to commit to a monthly subscription,
Speaker 1: I get it. I understand. I wish you would, but
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: I did make every single episode. I put it into
Speaker 1: one long video, and it's now available to buy on Patreon.
Speaker 1: You don't have to sign up monthly. You could just
Speaker 1: buy the one seven plus hour long video of every
Speaker 1: single Bloodline A hell Raiser Show episode if that's something
Speaker 1: you want to do. It's only eight dollars, as much
Speaker 1: as x Premium or Twitter Blue For you boomers out there,
Speaker 1: so you can just buy those videos if you're interested
Speaker 1: in just that series. I'll probably be doing that more
Speaker 1: with some other bonus content in the future, making it
Speaker 1: available individually. But again, two dollars you get everything. Consider it.
Speaker 1: Please watch this episode, let me know what you think.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope you check out the rest of
Speaker 1: the series because it was a lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: think I turned my cousin into a super hell Raiser fan. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: everyone enjoy the video. Hello Monica, Hi, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2: Who are you?
Speaker 1: Properly introduce yourself right now, everyone new on the show
Speaker 1: has to properly introduce themselves.
Speaker 3: Okay, you didn't send me. My name is Nica and
Speaker 3: I am your cousin.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Yes, and this is our bonus show that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about for a few years now.
Speaker 2: We're finally getting around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes us a while, just you know, like a.
Speaker 1: Month before the new movie comes out. We finally got
Speaker 1: around to it. Just in the dickatie. Oh yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: this is Bloodline, a hell Raiser show. Yes, and one
Speaker 1: of the movies is called Bloodlines, so yeah, it all
Speaker 1: works out. Yes, Hell Raiser, I love this series. I'm
Speaker 1: actually an apologist for some of the movies, not all
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: Even I have a point where.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I haven't watched all of them yet.
Speaker 2: Watch yeah, yes, So this was the thing.
Speaker 1: So I want Monica to be on the Hell Raiser
Speaker 1: remake episode and the inevitable worst Hell Raiser movie episode,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like, she needs to catch up. So
Speaker 1: I decided we got to do this show now. And
Speaker 1: the reason I picked Monica is because she is apparently
Speaker 1: terrified of Pinhead.
Speaker 3: Okay, to be fair, Catholic school fucked me up, and
Speaker 3: I was very afraid. I mean, it's still afraid of Hell,
Speaker 3: but I was very afraid of Hell when I was little.
Speaker 2: Just get over Hell, You're like, oh, I just.
Speaker 3: Spent less time with Catholics. So there's that. But like,
Speaker 3: you know, with angry nuns who are like, if you
Speaker 3: do the wrong thing, you're gonna go to Hell. And
Speaker 3: we're kids and watching a movie about some you touch
Speaker 3: a box, play a puzzle and you go to Hell,
Speaker 3: you know, and yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the scariest hell you can imagine.
Speaker 1: It's just like, because because this changed my whole perception
Speaker 1: of Hell, because it was like, yeah, little Red Devils with.
Speaker 3: The hordes and then this all that stuff in this.
Speaker 1: Movie literally the one tag that it was originally titled
Speaker 1: a Sado Masochist from Hell or from Beyond the Grave.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this is the most horrify thing
Speaker 1: in the world. I don't want either in hooks in
Speaker 1: my body.
Speaker 2: That seems like a bad time into that kick.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you made the mistake of telling me you
Speaker 1: were afraid of Pinhead specific and I've often tortured you
Speaker 1: with this. I actually showed you this first movie in
Speaker 1: high school. I made well, you had already seen it
Speaker 1: and it scared you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I kind of like, didn't we watch
Speaker 3: it when we were younger?
Speaker 2: Though I know in high school. I forced you to
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 1: I forced you to watch on high school because I
Speaker 1: thought it'd be funny. You had a cousin who showed
Speaker 1: you when you were younger. You told me that a
Speaker 1: different cousin, not me, a different cousin.
Speaker 3: It would either have been Nick Cosy yeah, or cousins
Speaker 3: on my other side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them did it, yeah, because he told
Speaker 2: me that and it was not me.
Speaker 1: But I am the one who at one point when
Speaker 1: I was drunk in Atlantic City. I think I texted
Speaker 1: you at two or three in the morning saying that
Speaker 1: there was something wrong and you were very concerned. And
Speaker 1: then I just sent four pictures of Pinhead and laughed
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Saw I was in the bathroom while
Speaker 1: this was happening. And then and then I went. I
Speaker 1: went on my merry way and Campbell the rest of
Speaker 1: the night being like that was real funny, totally.
Speaker 3: That's what I needed.
Speaker 2: I have a real funny guy.
Speaker 3: You also like text me Pinhead stuff on like my
Speaker 3: birthday Christmas. Really surprised you didn't give me anything Pinhead
Speaker 3: related for my wedding.
Speaker 2: Oh bet, I had two.
Speaker 3: Do you know what?
Speaker 2: Damn it? You know what?
Speaker 1: You had a Friday the thirteenth wedding, and that threw
Speaker 1: me off.
Speaker 3: I picked the wrong horror for it. I don't know
Speaker 3: how to have a Pinhead wedding.
Speaker 1: He was called a hell priest in the nove Well,
Speaker 1: he's not the bad guy in the novel anyway. Hell
Speaker 1: Racer again a novella by Clive Barker called The hell
Speaker 1: Bound Heart. I have read it.
Speaker 2: I assume you haven't.
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 1: Yes, I read it, I think a few times, pretty
Speaker 1: short read. I did not reread it for this Sorry,
Speaker 1: not much of a change though. I think there's stuff
Speaker 1: where like Kirsty isn't the guy's daughter.
Speaker 3: I did read that there was it was like a
Speaker 3: niece or something like a neighbor or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for the most part it plays out kind
Speaker 1: of the same. Pinhead is not the main hell priest
Speaker 1: in the book. There is a character with pins in
Speaker 1: their head, but they're very effeminate apparently.
Speaker 2: Which plays into the new casting. A lot of people
Speaker 2: were complaining about the casting of the new Pennan.
Speaker 1: I'm like, actually, it kind of makes sense. Really, this
Speaker 1: is the one case where it actually kind of works.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Clyde Barker had the rare thing where he
Speaker 1: was able to direct an adaptation of his book. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many times that's happened, can you recall?
Speaker 1: I'm only thinking of one. Billiam freaking directed Exorcist three,
Speaker 1: which was based off his book Legion.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's somebody else, but I can't think
Speaker 3: of who.
Speaker 1: Stephen King he did a maximum Overdrive the movie where
Speaker 1: the machines come to life.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. That's probably He's probably the only one who
Speaker 3: could bring that to life.
Speaker 2: Do you think the green Goblin truck was in his
Speaker 2: original book? I haven't read it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know what, maybe one day
Speaker 3: we can read it.
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll read it one day.
Speaker 3: Uh, start a book club.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite, my favorite thing about that is
Speaker 1: apparently he was on so much cocaine. He claims to
Speaker 1: have no memories of directing that movie. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't remember.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pretty sure that's probably true.
Speaker 2: That's probably true. I have the movie over there somewhere.
Speaker 1: But yes, uh, he directed it because he one of
Speaker 1: his books got made into a movie Rawhead Rex, which
Speaker 1: I know I've seen and I don't remember a lot about.
Speaker 1: But he apparently saw that movie and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: they got that wrong, so he insisted he do this one.
Speaker 1: And yeah, his friend Doug Bradley went on to be
Speaker 1: Pinhead in the film. Now he was offered two roles
Speaker 1: in this movie.
Speaker 3: Oh, I actually know that.
Speaker 2: You say it wasn't he was.
Speaker 3: He could have been one of the movers, right, one.
Speaker 2: Of the guys moving the mattress.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or Pinhead or Pinhead. He was technically not named
Speaker 3: Pinhead at the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, leads Centobite as he was called.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: That was probably the best decision.
Speaker 1: It was like one of the best decisions ever made
Speaker 1: by an actor. It's like, hey, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think I'll be the pinhead guy.
Speaker 3: I can do more in this role.
Speaker 2: He really can.
Speaker 1: You know, if I play the mattress guy, I might
Speaker 1: be in another movie. If I play the pin guy,
Speaker 1: I might be in nine sequels.
Speaker 3: It is funny to think, like those are the two roles,
Speaker 3: and he was just like weighing them, like, well, the
Speaker 3: mattress guy, I could get.
Speaker 2: More roles, like I show my face and that.
Speaker 3: I think he does show up again, the mattress guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: isn't he in the second one?
Speaker 2: I think he is. Yeah, there's like movers at the
Speaker 2: end of the Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's what I think. It's in my notes. So he
Speaker 3: would have gotten into another movie, I guess.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, he is now a horror icon just
Speaker 1: because he's like, now I don't want to do the
Speaker 1: mattress thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So the movie basically brother Frank, this guy
Speaker 2: Frank opens up the box.
Speaker 1: The lament configuration as it's called in the other material
Speaker 1: and he goes to Hell and his brother and his
Speaker 1: wife move in. Blood on the floor somehow brings Frank
Speaker 1: back and he conspires with Julia, who was his lover. Yes,
Speaker 1: she cheated on her husband Larry with Frank. They conspire
Speaker 1: together to give him bodies so he can come back
Speaker 1: to life and.
Speaker 2: Escape the Centabites.
Speaker 1: Kirsty finds out about this the daughter, and she ends
Speaker 1: up coming up with this plan to like frame Frank,
Speaker 1: so he goes back to Hell instead of her. And
Speaker 1: it's very tense, it's very creepy movie. Were you scared
Speaker 1: of them? Well, obviously you were scared of this movie.
Speaker 1: Were you scared upon a rewatch of this movie?
Speaker 3: I wasn't scared upon a rewatch. Yeah, and with older eyes,
Speaker 3: new viewing of it. Yeah, a lot of fucking weird
Speaker 3: shit went down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's more that like this was very like it was.
Speaker 3: Incestuous was a big theme. Yes, a little bit sastly
Speaker 3: when Frank was like hitting on Christy.
Speaker 1: Kirsty, Kirsty, Sorry I messed it up by Ashley Lawrence.
Speaker 2: I've never met a Kirsty, so you're fine. I would.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's many Kirstie's out there.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't say that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have like one patron who's like an annual
Speaker 1: patron at one hundred dollars year, going, my name's Kirsty
Speaker 1: and then delete their pledge anyway, go you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I noticed the one thing I put
Speaker 3: in my nose is that I hate it how much
Speaker 3: they say, like, daddy, come.
Speaker 2: To daddy, Come to daddy, jedgy.
Speaker 3: I was like, why please stop?
Speaker 2: Come to daddy?
Speaker 5: That should make it Daddy so proud, don't you beautiful?
Speaker 2: Come to Daddy?
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like ironic in any of the ways
Speaker 3: they ever said it. It was just how they said it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, why was this the choice?
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny Frank, I guess, you know, it's funny
Speaker 1: Frank like Julia's I guess the secondary villain in this,
Speaker 1: and Frank's the main one. People who haven't seen this,
Speaker 1: they assume that Pinhead's like the main guy, and it's like, nah,
Speaker 1: not really, He's just kind of there. But Frank was
Speaker 1: played by a few people.
Speaker 2: Do I have it here? Oliver Smith was the skinless Frank.
Speaker 3: That makes sense because the bone structure didn't match up.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then there were Sean Chapman who played Frank,
Speaker 1: but they dubbed over his voice, and I forget, I
Speaker 1: don't think they have the guy who dubbed.
Speaker 2: Over his voice.
Speaker 1: So this movie was filmed in like Britain or London
Speaker 1: or the ukh and it was meant to take place there,
Speaker 1: and then the US distributor was like, no, the movie
Speaker 1: takes place in America.
Speaker 2: Now. I don't know if you notice like all the
Speaker 2: awkward dubbing in this.
Speaker 3: No, because I think sometimes they were just awkward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I guess that helped. I guess that helped.
Speaker 1: But they it's clearly shot in the UK, but they're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's in America, so they like dubbed over most of
Speaker 1: the British accents. Okay, it's very it's very bizarre.
Speaker 3: I think that I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1: The dad, oh, the dad Larry is Andrew Robinson.
Speaker 3: His like voice was weird a lot.
Speaker 1: Like well that really was his voice, but yeah, he
Speaker 1: just just sounds like a weird guy.
Speaker 2: He's from Pumpkinhead too.
Speaker 3: He looked familiar.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's wait, so you've seen Pumpkinhead.
Speaker 1: I I don't know we've watched so many. I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot a lot of people have seen Pumpkinhead
Speaker 1: two or three or four. I watched Pumpkinhead four over
Speaker 1: the weekend, and midway through I went, why am I
Speaker 1: watching Pumpkinhead four? Like I like, I literally was sitting
Speaker 1: there like I don't know why I did this, just
Speaker 1: like I don't know why I did this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not good, it's I'm not enjoying.
Speaker 1: Anyway that like Adrew Robinson, Hell Raiser and Pumpkinhead two,
Speaker 1: he's been at other things, and now I feel bad
Speaker 1: because that's the only.
Speaker 2: Thing I can think of. Sorry, Uh no, that's your one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Julia Is is awesome in this. She is like
Speaker 1: pure evil. But I have a problem with her character. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's implied that she only slept with Frank like once.
Speaker 1: By the way, uh, cheating is wrong from what I hear.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do it, like, don't do it
Speaker 1: the day before the wedding day, and don't do it
Speaker 1: on top of your wedding dress like.
Speaker 3: It's pretty easily and trying to find someone to fix
Speaker 3: any like stains or terrors. Everythink it's gonna take a
Speaker 3: while old choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from a guy she just met. She knew, I know.
Speaker 3: He like literally comes to the door. It's like I'm
Speaker 3: because or no, brother, I'm sorry, brother, and then she's
Speaker 3: like yes.
Speaker 1: She's like yes, I need this and I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it on my wedding dress.
Speaker 3: I just like it was hilarious because I was like,
Speaker 3: I know, it was a different time than eighties, and
Speaker 3: I was just like I would be slamming the door
Speaker 3: in this man's face because he's just purves me, like
Speaker 3: it's her vibes.
Speaker 1: All right, I want to I want to call Larry
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, your brother's really creeping me out.
Speaker 3: Why didn't you tell me this weird your weird brother.
Speaker 1: Was coming u By the way, they do not like
Speaker 1: each other, Like he talks about all that. He's like,
Speaker 1: Frank's probably in jail.
Speaker 3: He's an asshole, I know, but he's invited to my wedding.
Speaker 2: The wedding.
Speaker 1: You won't let me sell my dead bomb's house. Everything sucks.
Speaker 1: He's an idiot, he's invited to the wedding.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that was one thing that really
Speaker 3: was like her motivation, Like was it sex with Frank
Speaker 3: once and I was just like in the second movie
Speaker 3: they show a little more of like their sex scenes,
Speaker 3: but like in the first one, I was like, this
Speaker 3: seems very vanilla for you to like want to kill
Speaker 3: other men.
Speaker 1: Like It's just my whole thing is that it was
Speaker 1: just the one time, like if they had like a
Speaker 1: long affair, like over years, but like ivon rewatch it,
Speaker 1: I was just like just one time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, he couldn't have been that good lady.
Speaker 3: No vanilla, Yeah, and not enough to like gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not enough to be like I'm gonna suddenly start
Speaker 1: murdering people to bring.
Speaker 3: You back, like yes, I And then I mean besides
Speaker 3: that too, like they move into the house before like
Speaker 3: Frank skinless Frank comes back into the picture. Yeah, she's
Speaker 3: still like having those moments where she's liker.
Speaker 1: She finds the picture of him and another woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, no, get out.
Speaker 3: Of here, this sloot.
Speaker 1: Also, Frank, by the way, if you if you say, say, hey,
Speaker 1: you spent spent a night with a guy once and
Speaker 1: then he went to his house and he wasn't there,
Speaker 1: and he sleeps on a mattress covered in dirt and
Speaker 1: food and there's cockroaches in his kitchen, like she's gonna
Speaker 1: bring it back to life. He's still gonna be a
Speaker 1: fucking dirt ball.
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't want to. I'd be like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is how he lives. Now, I'm out.
Speaker 3: I'm out to be fair. The cockroach just were because
Speaker 3: like nobody was there for a long time. I can't
Speaker 3: defend the bed.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I guess, all right, the kitchen, although they say
Speaker 1: he was there recently, the kitchen couldn't have gotten that bad.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing like a week or two went by.
Speaker 3: Well it is That timeline is confusing because it's like
Speaker 3: they move into this house, but like he was there recently,
Speaker 3: Like why were they allowed to move into this house?
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, they probably didn't know. He was probably
Speaker 1: squatting there. I mean, he technically co owns the house,
Speaker 1: but he was probably there just didn't let anyone know.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I assumed.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he he he lives like a vagrant. By
Speaker 1: the way, he's always world hopping and buying weird shit
Speaker 1: from scary people.
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't want to get back together with this guy.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if a skeleton came up to me,
Speaker 1: it was like I was that guy you you hooked
Speaker 1: up with once, I would have been.
Speaker 2: Like, can you shut the fuck help? My husband's downstairs. Also,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a broom any even just the husband.
Speaker 3: It was the movers too, Yeah, everybody's downstairs.
Speaker 1: What was the mo when she meets when she meets Frank,
Speaker 1: it's when he's having like a party downstairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: The movers are when Frank comes back to like when
Speaker 1: they spill the blood, which apparently spilling blood on where
Speaker 1: you died and went to hell, that'll bring it back.
Speaker 1: That's not a good.
Speaker 2: Does it have to be a family member's blood? Is
Speaker 2: that what we're meant to believe?
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's confusing about the first movie, and in
Speaker 3: the second movie that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess it's just blood in general.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean the first movie like seem very
Speaker 3: heavy on family ties. Yeah, and I thought that's what
Speaker 3: kind of like because it was his brother's blood. But
Speaker 3: then they also killed all those other guys and that's.
Speaker 2: True, so I guess that's true.
Speaker 1: I do love that whole Like every time he kills someone,
Speaker 1: he has like flesh and skin and he's got like
Speaker 1: the nervous system, and that.
Speaker 2: Was really cool.
Speaker 1: I will say, Uh, this movie does have a very
Speaker 1: important lesson. It's don't trust family, don't trust them. And
Speaker 1: I learned that lesson at a very young age because
Speaker 1: of this movie or something else, because of something else
Speaker 1: that happened to me. I was I was told not
Speaker 1: to I learned not to trust family members. See, I
Speaker 1: have this really cool car. I had this toy car
Speaker 1: and it was really really cool, and I decided to
Speaker 1: let my cousin Monica play with it. But she decided
Speaker 1: it was her car and she she wouldn't let me
Speaker 1: play with the car. I found this tape recently. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cut to the footage because I found the tape recently.
Speaker 1: You can't compare that hell Raiser, Noah, no no, Because
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna share.
Speaker 2: But then she wouldn't give the car back to me,
Speaker 2: and then she pried my figures off the wheel of
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 1: And then at one point when I I chased her,
Speaker 1: she picked up the car so I couldn't physically grab it.
Speaker 4: When you die, somebody, one of your patrons should just
Speaker 4: kill me where you live, because then my blood will
Speaker 4: bring you back.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll be like, oh no, she's gonna steal my car.
Speaker 3: I don't want your car. Now.
Speaker 1: Cut to the footage of me hanging on the back
Speaker 1: of the car because I was too young to force her.
Speaker 2: Off of it and I just held on while she
Speaker 2: will be around or not.
Speaker 3: Walking out of it.
Speaker 1: So a few things that don't work in this movie
Speaker 1: for me. One of them is the boyfriend character.
Speaker 3: He sucked I love that is, Like, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't understand anybody's like attractions in this movie because
Speaker 3: at the dinner table, he like does the trick with
Speaker 3: the cigarette like in his mouth and puts stuck out
Speaker 3: and she's like.
Speaker 2: It's like oh yeah, like ew.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I know she's kind of drunk at
Speaker 3: this point, but like still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not like a sexy trick. No, that's not
Speaker 2: like the tying the strawberry. Uh stay the cherry stab. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's starbary step. That would be really impressive.
Speaker 3: It would be really impressive if they could make that happen.
Speaker 2: But oh but yeah, it's just like I put a
Speaker 2: cigarette in my mouth.
Speaker 3: It's like cool, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be real great. Can you, like I
Speaker 2: got mauflage before we go.
Speaker 1: Uh, He's just so boring and I feel like I
Speaker 1: should have listened to commentary. But I feel like they
Speaker 1: kind of like added him in there because they thought
Speaker 1: they needed some kind of romance.
Speaker 2: But like, I love how.
Speaker 3: Uselessly he is the guy to try to save her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he does it.
Speaker 1: I love the twist at the end where like he
Speaker 1: doesn't really do anything to help her, she ends up
Speaker 1: just doing it herself.
Speaker 3: And he.
Speaker 2: Punched in the face bike.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what the creatures called the engineer.
Speaker 1: So that thing scared the shit out of me when
Speaker 1: I was Yes, yeah, because the engineer seems like a
Speaker 1: bigger deal in the book, but apparently.
Speaker 3: I mean by the name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he's called the engineer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the book he says I'm the engineer in.
Speaker 2: This he just goes wow. So when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: I was watching this. It was just on. I was
Speaker 2: watching by myself because I was insane.
Speaker 1: Uh. And I think the first time I watched is
Speaker 1: I think I turned it off at the engineer scene
Speaker 1: because it was just like that thing scared me too much. Ways,
Speaker 1: like climbs on the walls, and when you can kind
Speaker 1: of see it, you could tell it's like a man
Speaker 1: in the suit and they're probably like on a rail.
Speaker 1: But then sometimes it's like a little miniature, see like
Speaker 1: you can see the little track.
Speaker 2: That it's like.
Speaker 1: When it's a miniature, it's a little bit more janky.
Speaker 1: That is one that you can kind of see the trail.
Speaker 1: But no, he's seen like terrified me. And luckily I
Speaker 1: turned it off because then Pinhead showed up and that
Speaker 1: would have scared me even more.
Speaker 3: At the time, he would have been traumatized.
Speaker 2: I probably would have been traumatized.
Speaker 1: So I like Andrew Robinson as Larry. But when Frank
Speaker 1: becomes Larry, I think Andrew Robinson plays it too different.
Speaker 3: He really overacts it.
Speaker 1: He really does. It doesn't match the previous Frank acting.
Speaker 2: You won't cheat me with you, you'll stay with me,
Speaker 2: help me.
Speaker 5: He was insane, baby, a mad dog. Had to put
Speaker 5: him out of his misery.
Speaker 3: And she's also not to stirre by like the gunk
Speaker 3: hanging from his scalp.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: It's not mending together because they take his skin. I
Speaker 3: guess they skin Larry. Yeah, to put it on Frank.
Speaker 3: Yeah does not notice. Oh yeah, so he's sorry.
Speaker 1: On my phone?
Speaker 2: Was that a demon? What was? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He just I like his performance. It just is not
Speaker 1: consistent with the other Frank we saw. Yeah, because he's
Speaker 1: a little he's a little copy.
Speaker 3: He does come to Jack.
Speaker 1: He's like, he does the come to the Frank. Previously
Speaker 1: he's like, come to daddy, come to daddy. This one
Speaker 1: he's like, come to daddy, Like all right, all right,
Speaker 1: a little weird. Uh. He tells Kirsty that he killed
Speaker 1: Frank and then she sees the body and it's skinned,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I had to put him down.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh.
Speaker 1: No, And that makes sense, she said, because Frank was
Speaker 1: her ticket to not go to hell.
Speaker 2: But she doesn't go You skinned him? Oh, I guess eight.
Speaker 1: No, you know what, he didn't have skin when she
Speaker 1: saw him last. So I guess that makes sense. I
Speaker 1: guess that makes sense. True, And I just screwed up there.
Speaker 1: Points for the movie ten stars or five stars, I
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't have a rating here. Talking about
Speaker 1: the centa bites. What's the scariest one for you?
Speaker 3: I guess the chitter one, the chatterer yes, chatterer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy's that guy's fucked.
Speaker 1: That guy's scary, uh less scary in the second one.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that when we get there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very it's very darring. I think the woman
Speaker 1: was Clive Barker's like sister or cousin or something like that.
Speaker 2: I like her.
Speaker 1: She's a little cocky too. She's like she's like really
Speaker 1: getting in Kersey's face. She's like, oh, what if we
Speaker 1: don't want to trade?
Speaker 2: Huh do you ever think about that?
Speaker 3: And Pinnet's like relian, I know, Penhead, but Pennhead should
Speaker 3: have listened to her, because Kirsty keeps like fucking over
Speaker 3: their whole help plans. They really don't like, we're not
Speaker 3: making any more. Yeah, you'd stop, like you're literally trying
Speaker 3: to drag people to hell, and you're like, okay, I listen.
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 2: I like how they're annoyed. They're like, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Frank left Like, you're like, you're gonna tell me how
Speaker 3: I keep my house?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're prove it to me.
Speaker 1: And it's like, why don't you guys go to where
Speaker 1: Frank is supposed to be and check if he's there.
Speaker 1: They're like, we got all this shiit to do. We're
Speaker 1: exploring pains and other dimension or whatever.
Speaker 2: You got to clean our hooks. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is that is a little funny.
Speaker 1: It's like, why didn't you guys just check? I don't
Speaker 1: think they really care that much.
Speaker 3: No, Like I guess they figured they didn't realize people
Speaker 3: could escape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess this was the first time somebody escaped them.
Speaker 2: So in the history of the world, no one's ever
Speaker 2: spilled blood right where someone died.
Speaker 1: Right where somewhere died and went to hell. Is it
Speaker 1: only because he went through hell through the I think so? Again,
Speaker 1: these are these are mysteries that we haven't we haven't
Speaker 1: figured out. Uh yeah, So it's pretty good when they
Speaker 1: get rid of the centa bites at the end. Apparently
Speaker 1: Clive Barker and the other animator were drunk and they
Speaker 1: hand drew all those little yellow lightning effects around them.
Speaker 3: Oh they didn't.
Speaker 2: They don't hold up.
Speaker 1: They don't hold up at all, not like the fire
Speaker 1: in the engineer's eyes when he's fading away.
Speaker 3: I still I still love the part where the engineer
Speaker 3: punches the boyfriend though, because they like stab him and
Speaker 3: he's just a kid.
Speaker 1: Oh talk about weird. This is something I feel like
Speaker 1: later hell Raiser movies kind of got away from. But
Speaker 1: the creepy dream sequences, Oh yeah, yeah, they're awesome, like
Speaker 1: with the feathers and the blood and whatnot, and the
Speaker 1: baby's crying the one arm where she wakes up from
Speaker 1: the dream sequence when they're in the hospital. Do you
Speaker 1: notice the nurse just had this big, thick black leather belt.
Speaker 1: What was going on there?
Speaker 3: I did not, it seemed a little.
Speaker 2: I was watching it and like, something up with that nurse?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is that? What is going on? I
Speaker 2: like the doctor being real mean to her. It's important,
Speaker 2: it really is.
Speaker 1: First things first, we'll get you a telephone.
Speaker 3: A further point, Catholics, the nuns do not help her.
Speaker 3: They give her the most judging looks when she's really
Speaker 3: scared with this box. She's like covered in dirt and
Speaker 3: blood and all this stuff, and the nuns are just like.
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy with the New York Yankees hat.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been a reshoot to make
Speaker 1: it America.
Speaker 2: Are you all right?
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed this movie. It's very scary, though.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of like the killer the Frank
Speaker 1: just being in that room and there's all this normal
Speaker 1: stuff and there's just like this other worldly thing there
Speaker 1: and you always know he's there.
Speaker 3: So I guess I won't do spoilers or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but you've watched Stranger Things, right, Yeah, so the last season? Yes,
Speaker 3: all right, so you know how the last season really
Speaker 3: like pulls from a lot of like horror from the
Speaker 3: eighties and stuff. I was really thinking. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: they have the stained glass on the door, like it
Speaker 3: kind of looked like the Rose, and then they had
Speaker 3: the creepy monster kind of like Vecna up in the attic,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I wonder if they kind of
Speaker 3: got some of those elements from Hallary's They.
Speaker 1: Probably I meant, kind of looks like Frank now I
Speaker 1: to think about it, Yeah, it looks like a jacked Frank.
Speaker 3: I mean, they pulled a lot of stuff from a
Speaker 3: bunch of different like eighties horror. So this was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's really making me think of Stranger Things, which I'm
Speaker 3: sure people are probably like, we don't want to hear
Speaker 3: about that right now, just correlations.
Speaker 2: It was just like, no, no, I like.
Speaker 1: That but yeah, that's the whole idea of like a
Speaker 1: monster in the attic. Like yeah, like Frank like building himself,
Speaker 1: which is cool because they shot that all reversed. They
Speaker 1: like melted something and then filmed the reverse just him
Speaker 1: building himself. That used to creep me out. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is one of the best trailers I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: I have seen the future of horror. His name is
Speaker 5: Clive Barker hell Raiser Beyond Any Terror.
Speaker 2: You have a magical.
Speaker 5: Hell Raiser, a film like Clive Barker will tell your soul.
Speaker 3: Part you know. Also that like there's that iconic scene
Speaker 3: of like Frank is Larry and he's just like Jesus.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, his tongue is so sad. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's like an effect or something. I'm like, that
Speaker 2: is a really fat tongue. How did they do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part's pretty crazy, Like, yeah, just explodes. I'm
Speaker 1: always confused of what happens at the very end, because
Speaker 1: the house starts to burn and then they're just somewhere else,
Speaker 1: also surrounded by fire. I don't think that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be their house. They're in some like weird trash pit
Speaker 1: with fire everywhere.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, And well they run away, don't they.
Speaker 2: I guess they leave and then they go to a
Speaker 2: trash shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess they were going to throw away the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tried to throw away the box.
Speaker 1: But then the homeless guy who was throughout the film
Speaker 1: was throughout the film, he picks it up and he
Speaker 1: turns into a dragon.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like that just got dropped in other movies, like, No,
Speaker 3: he makes an appearance in two. I think he No,
Speaker 3: well doesn't his face make an appearance.
Speaker 1: I think that's the Asian guy who sells the box
Speaker 1: in the beginning, because he quotes it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah uh.
Speaker 1: And the movie ends kind of like, oh, it's the cycle.
Speaker 1: The box is now going to go with someone else. However,
Speaker 1: on the wall, I think drawing. There's a drawing on
Speaker 1: the wall that looks like that weird dragon demon. There
Speaker 1: are other creepy homeless guys in the other movies, creepy almost, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a part. There's one in the third one where
Speaker 1: there's so there's other weird homeless dudes and people who
Speaker 1: work for hell to get the box into people's hands,
Speaker 1: but we never really get an explanation for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't. I mean, we don't really get much
Speaker 3: of an explanation of why they recruit homeless people.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I guess they don't. Don't I have
Speaker 2: much to do, I guess.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the homeless dude to cycle back. The other
Speaker 3: part that really confused me is that QC works at
Speaker 3: like the pet shop. Can they sell a monkey?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen that.
Speaker 3: I was just like, I get the dramatic effect of
Speaker 3: like the monkey screaming, but then it was just like,
Speaker 3: can you buy a monkey in New York? Did they
Speaker 3: think you could buy a monkey in Can.
Speaker 2: You do it in the in the UK? Maybe? I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I went to one pet shop in like Northeast Philly
Speaker 1: years ago that had like sharks. Yeah, but that was
Speaker 1: like the most exotic thing I've ever seen in a
Speaker 1: pet like store.
Speaker 3: Probably illegal, true.
Speaker 2: If it was illegal, I feel like they would have
Speaker 2: hit it a little bit better.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, Okay, they're like, no one's coming
Speaker 1: to the no one cares.
Speaker 2: That might be a thing where like a cop might
Speaker 2: not know that that's illegal, Like our shark's illegal. I
Speaker 2: don't fucking know. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Hell raisor one. Uh solid film, good horror film. The
Speaker 1: rules of the universe are a little bit serious to us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Julia's motivations I think are a little weak, but her
Speaker 1: performance is really good. Uh like like her whole heel turn.
Speaker 1: She starts to enjoy the killing more and more as
Speaker 1: it goes on. And she was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: main villain.
Speaker 2: Of the series. But we'll talk about that more.
Speaker 1: Next time when we do hell Bound, hell raisor two Monica.
Speaker 2: Where can people find you?
Speaker 3: Oh they can't.
Speaker 2: They have to open up box to get you. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I meant social media like it.
Speaker 3: Is, I know, but I don't want them to find me. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a bunch of fucking pinhead stuff because
Speaker 3: that's happened before where you made fans send me pinhead ship. Okay,
Speaker 3: so he's gonna tag me regardless. Twitter is story in
Speaker 3: the end. I think the same thing with my Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't don't send pinheads.
Speaker 2: Send what would you like them to send?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 2: That's mean.
Speaker 3: I don't need anything about.
Speaker 2: Like pictures of puppies.
Speaker 3: No, because they're gonna be pinhead puppies.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think that existed, but that problem.
Speaker 3: Oh come on, I know we haven't gotten to the
Speaker 3: other movie yet, but there is.
Speaker 1: There is a dog dog, all right, Send Monica nothing,
Speaker 1: don't tweet her, don't don't ever talk to her.
Speaker 2: If you see her in public, just keep on walking.
Speaker 3: They won't see me in public. I work from home.
Speaker 1: If you're breaking and entering and it turns out to
Speaker 1: be Monica's house, don't talk to her.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to talk. Just leave the house.
Speaker 1: Grab whatever you gotta get, get out of here, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, goodbye.
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