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<v Speaker 1>Today, I'm Always watching. We're talking about Lanterns Episode one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>new show, Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Let's do this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>All that r after this. Welcome to Always Watching. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Grenna Pin the podcast. We're talking about whatever viky TV

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<v Speaker 1>shows we feel like talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Matthew Carroll and I'm Jay Scotty Saint Clair.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Jay Scott, Jay Scotty, Saint Clair. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see Jays Scoots and then it came out Scott

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<v Speaker 1>to nice Fay I Field, Hey, Jay Scotty Scottsy. I

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<v Speaker 1>like Jay Scotty. That's a new evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, what'd you think of Lantern's Bud.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say I was all along the way whenever

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<v Speaker 2>we first heard about this series. I was excited for it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was always kind of holding it at arms length.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if that's my reception to the

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<v Speaker 2>DCU at large or what have you, but I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>say I came away from this premiere just so so impressed,

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<v Speaker 2>so encouraged. Right off the bat. This series has automatically

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<v Speaker 2>sunk its teeth into me, and I'm just so excited

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<v Speaker 2>to be watching the show and covering the show with you,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know when we do these podcasts like this,

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<v Speaker 2>it really affords the opportunity to deep dive and theorize.

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<v Speaker 2>And with Damon Lindall off out the helmet shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise. But again, I was just I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to like this show, but to the degree

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<v Speaker 2>that I was impressed with the premiere here, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little pleasantly surprised here. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You think I liked it a lot. All the actors

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<v Speaker 1>are so good, and I'm intrigued by the plot line.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I had to do like a quick

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<v Speaker 1>one sentence review, I liked it really intriguing, good, but

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<v Speaker 1>a little slow for me.

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<v Speaker 2>The first episode a little slow. I can understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't alted because I know the vibe they're going for,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going for a very adult vibe that like

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<v Speaker 1>fits in in the True Detective vein They've they've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about true to how it's like True Detective, and I

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<v Speaker 1>almost felt like they were going for that too much, whereas,

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<v Speaker 1>like the concept here is so fanciful that I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted them to lean a little bit more into like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the it could have been a little

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<v Speaker 1>more fun. I think there are moments it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been more fun. And uh, Okay, I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that's doesn't anything doesn't have to be fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I was kind of like, Okay, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>the scene where he gets beat up is so good

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so set up well, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to have a separate character moment where he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>uh kind of talked to by the by the by

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<v Speaker 1>missus Macon, and like I was watching, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this should be the moment where he's getting beat up. Two,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a pair of roller skates while John Stewart

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<v Speaker 1>drinks and enjoys it, you know it enjoys him getting

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<v Speaker 1>to Like it was a perfectly set up joke and

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<v Speaker 1>like moment, and instead they like decided to have like

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of serious romance conversation up front, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of like, right, you're doing too much

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid fun almost like that was a it was

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<v Speaker 1>a joke set up to be a joke, Like lean

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<v Speaker 1>into it, and I understand it's just like a different style,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, I would it's the DCU. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a departure from James Gunn, which is like, sure, even

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<v Speaker 1>in a serious moment, he's trying to be funny, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this is so serious even when a moment lends

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<v Speaker 1>itself to a good, poppy kind of joke, that I

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<v Speaker 1>just I felt a little underserved by the slowness of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I feel that, And I don't disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with you. I think there were more opportunities for Levity

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<v Speaker 2>and I actually kind of really like your rewright there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did given that this is the premiere, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't surprise me all that much. It's it's not rubbing

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<v Speaker 2>me the wrong way. At this point. It was few

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<v Speaker 2>and far between in terms of, like, you know, moments

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<v Speaker 2>for levity and comedy. But it did make the moments

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<v Speaker 2>that they did have really land for me, Like right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat, just like that that sequence where hal

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<v Speaker 2>Founds finds out that John slept with Will Macon's wife Zoe.

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<v Speaker 2>That was hilarious. Just never you think about that reveal

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<v Speaker 2>so kind of rot and serious up until that point

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<v Speaker 2>that it made that moment really land for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>was laughing out loud and that's that's rare for me

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<v Speaker 2>and TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely agree. That was a really funny moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I, like I said, it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be funny. It's not a funny show. Like, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going for that, They're going for True Detective. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really I feel bad I'm complaining because I'm really not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. I really love there's there's things I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked. I want to get into that, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I just think I think they're going for True Detective

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<v Speaker 1>vibe almost too deliberately. And True Detective is such a

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<v Speaker 1>singular thing. This first season of that show is so singular,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so much about those two actors and the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they as human beings are interacting. And like

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew McConaughey and oh gosh, thank you, I am so

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<v Speaker 1>so terrible Woody Harrelson's name.

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<v Speaker 2>I can never come up with it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why talented actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh have you heard the not really conspiracy theory, but

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<v Speaker 1>the theory that they're brothers. No, apparently their mom their

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<v Speaker 1>moms dated the same musician around the same time when

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<v Speaker 1>they were both born, and both their moms aren't sure

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<v Speaker 1>who the father is and they and then later in life,

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<v Speaker 1>as they got to know each other, they realized how

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<v Speaker 1>similar they were and they got to talk it and

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<v Speaker 1>realized they had this connection and their their moms dated

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<v Speaker 1>the same guy, and they think they.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be brothers, but they don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, dude, if you watch them in interviews like

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<v Speaker 1>talk back and forth, they act and sound like brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy that I found that fascinating. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think and I hate to say this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the meanest thing I'm gonna say about the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it out now. I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Chandler and Aaron Pierre can hold a candle to

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<v Speaker 1>that true detective vibe. Unfortunately, I think they're both great.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both really great gets for the DC Universe and

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<v Speaker 1>for a DC Universe television show. I love them for this,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're like almost trying too hard to mimic this

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<v Speaker 1>style that was so singular and like I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>they were saying it was true detective like, but I

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<v Speaker 1>felt moments that I was like this long slow car ride.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be compelling if the actor was doing more.

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<v Speaker 1>But Aaron Pierre, he's playing it very flat because he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be a he's drawing, he's doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that Matthew McConaughey was doing, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>not being as kooky or as strange. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>all the he doesn't have the magnetism that Matthew McConaughey

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<v Speaker 1>brought to that performance, and like Aaron Pierre instead is

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<v Speaker 1>just playing it very flat. And I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get more interesting, I really do. But like it's on,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do feel like they're going for a vibe

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<v Speaker 1>that the show is not suited to necessarily and that

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<v Speaker 1>the show hasn't isn't pulling off like it wants to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying to forget that it's doing that because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't unsee it.

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<v Speaker 2>But to be fair, that wasn't all that mean when

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<v Speaker 2>you said this is the meanest thing you're gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>about the show, though I was expected.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying Kyle Chandler and Aaron Pierre aren't able to pull

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<v Speaker 1>off what those two did, And I just think that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mean. I don't normally like to say thing's

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<v Speaker 1>bad things about actors because you never know what's their fault,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's not. Actors have very little control, so I

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<v Speaker 1>very rarely will say an unkind word about an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I think Colin Chandler and airpr are, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey. They're just not

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<v Speaker 1>totally fair, totally fair.

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<v Speaker 2>And while I do feel like this series, just with

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<v Speaker 2>the premiere episode alone, is really delivering on that promise

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, the bill of goods that was

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<v Speaker 2>sold in terms of like this being true detective, but

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<v Speaker 2>as much as that influence is there, I found myself

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<v Speaker 2>again to use the terminology, pleasantly surprised. I went into

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<v Speaker 2>this expecting true Detective, and I was surprised how much

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<v Speaker 2>I came away with Fargo season five. And I love

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<v Speaker 2>the show Fargo, but like just how much it had

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<v Speaker 2>in common with Fargo season five in terms of being

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<v Speaker 2>set in Nebraska, which is often a location that's featured

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<v Speaker 2>in Fargo, if not the movie the TV series itself,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that you have like this military compound

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<v Speaker 2>with the militia, where this questionable figurehead that's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is he operating within the law or outside the laws?

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<v Speaker 2>He and isolationists and nationalists of some kind. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to compartmentalize the comparisons to True Detective a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit with my my kind of glee how much

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<v Speaker 2>there was to kind of glom onto, like, Oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>feels like Fargo. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had the same thought, and I kept thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that was the tone, Like this is so

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<v Speaker 1>similar to Fargo, right that I wish the tone had a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit more that Fargo humor, which is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Absurdist, and it's such an absurdist situation that like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it could have easily built used that absurdity

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<v Speaker 2>Going on to be to be funnier.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate I hate being like, this isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of show I want, because that's not a good criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's kind of it just right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I don't think they're nailing what they're going for,

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<v Speaker 1>So I keep like looking for this other thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I kept thinking about Fargo for the same

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<v Speaker 1>reasons you did. It really does have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>elements of fift season five of Fargo, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why why isn't there someone using kind of funny language

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<v Speaker 1>like Fargo or like saying things in a kitchy way

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<v Speaker 1>that like lands in the ear funny. Even on non

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<v Speaker 1>funny scenes, Fargo has this way of like always.

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<v Speaker 2>Being fun to watch. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, there's just certain scenes in this that aren't fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. They're just like long driving scenes where Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Pierre is staring out the front of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, right, the bubble wrap thing

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<v Speaker 2>was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I gotta stop talking about the one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like because I do like other things in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're good. I'm kind of glad you keep kind

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<v Speaker 2>of harping on that because it brings back to mind

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<v Speaker 2>the point that I was going to make, because ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree with you. I don't think I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>quite as harsh on the series right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of, you know, reserving judgment, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a great premiere. But I do agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you in terms of like the chemistry between Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Pierre and Kyle Chandler. I think that's something that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be earned as the series goes along. But

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the performances go. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>with Kyle Chandler, in particular his performance, just the how

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<v Speaker 2>much he leaned into the like grizzled and kind of unlikable,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of selfish machiesmo that he's doing there. But Aaron Pierre,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of agree with you, and it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>fault of the actor, it's just kind of the material

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<v Speaker 2>that this series is trying to tell? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a John story much more

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<v Speaker 2>than it's going to be a How story ultimately, because

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<v Speaker 2>where does that transition to a moment with his father?

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<v Speaker 2>William Tell But again, like he asked that question, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have fear? Which is definitely going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>through line for this series as well, But the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that his father shoots the apple off his head and

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<v Speaker 2>he the first thing he has is a smile, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a warm embrace. And then we flash forward to

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<v Speaker 2>his father. I thought John was going to be the opposite,

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<v Speaker 2>where he has a lot of resentment towards father, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>he still holds his father with this respect. In this regard,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to be translated onto how and

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a story of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hero worship is unhealthy. To quote SpongeBob for my millennial

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<v Speaker 2>you know, younger millennial, mid millennial listeners out there that

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<v Speaker 2>are with me, there's an episode of SpongeBob where he

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the story. You know, hero worship is unhealthy. SpongeBob,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worship your heroes, Don't Meet your heroes, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>this is you know this episode one was not given

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<v Speaker 2>a subtitle, but I kind of paused or checked halfway

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<v Speaker 2>and I was kind of expecting it to be Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I definitely think you're right, and I'm glad we

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we touched on the three main influences of

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<v Speaker 1>this show, uh, far Ago, True Detective, and SpongeBob.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, like the three that this show's really

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<v Speaker 1>pulling from.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's Linda for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the bubble wrap thing is not too

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<v Speaker 1>far off, like it's very that is a very SpongeBob joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely, oh man, I I really, I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And I think part of the story they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling for I think is John Stewart isn't being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I think he. I think he is fearful.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was fearful as a kid. Your dad's

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<v Speaker 1>aiming a gun at you, You're fearful. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>been repressing his fear. He's been taught to repress who

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<v Speaker 1>he is and repress his fear and like they keep

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<v Speaker 1>asking him, are you annoying? Am I bothering you? He's Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad. I respect him. He's not being truthful.

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<v Speaker 1>He does not respect How. How is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a drunk and someone who doesn't seem to be like

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<v Speaker 1>caring about his position, and like as the as the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff speaks of, like he's not fearless.

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<v Speaker 2>He's lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>He just doesn't care about anything. He doesn't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>to care about, so he doesn't have anything to fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but that's not because he's fearless, because he's lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's really incisive. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>John Stewart has all these reasons to dislike How at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, and all these reasons to be upset at him,

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<v Speaker 1>and How keeps treating him poorly as his trainee and

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<v Speaker 1>not doing enough for him to train him, and How

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<v Speaker 1>just keeps John just keeps kind of eating it and

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<v Speaker 1>just being like, Nope, I'm good. I respect the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm supposed to respect. I'm doing the thing and

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<v Speaker 1>saying the thing I'm supposed to. And I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get the last episode. Here's my prediction of

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<v Speaker 1>where all this is going. We're gonna get to the

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<v Speaker 1>last moment of are you afraid? And he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say no. Either that or to have some transformation where

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<v Speaker 1>he learns what fear is, what it means, and actually

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<v Speaker 1>how to overcome it and not just ignore it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think right now he's just ignoring everything he feels

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<v Speaker 1>and believe like everything he feels that is his reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bottling it up to please his father and to

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<v Speaker 1>please this guy and to please the Lantern Core. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like just trying to be the guy he's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think as those walls break down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode would have been way more fun for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably more watchable if like John Stewart was actually

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<v Speaker 1>pushing back. It's a tried and true, like comedy premise,

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<v Speaker 1>not even comedy, just like action action adventure premise. To

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<v Speaker 1>have two guys who don't get a lot, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like they're butting heads and so having

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<v Speaker 1>John Stewart and I think this is gonna be his

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<v Speaker 1>journey to learn to feel his feelings and express them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's gonna be a big part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but having him truncated like that makes the character seem

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<v Speaker 1>uninteresting and makes the relationship seem not real. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna get there. I think it's the journey.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not like, like you said, I'm reserving judgment

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<v Speaker 1>on that. I think that's on purpose. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just true.

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<v Speaker 1>It is part of what I'm sensing when I'm sensing

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<v Speaker 1>that lack of character to the show and that lack

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<v Speaker 1>of connection between the two mains, is that that's his

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<v Speaker 1>that is his character. He's he's reserved. He's not fearful,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not annoyed, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not mad, you're late. He's just a cool guy who

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<v Speaker 2>does what he's supposed to do right right, And you've

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<v Speaker 2>got me wondering, Like, as the series goes along, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of suspecting that we're going to see how take

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<v Speaker 2>more and more of a back seat as John takes

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<v Speaker 2>over and becomes the character as it is his story,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe he'll get Aaron Pierre as the character, will

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<v Speaker 2>get more opportunities to flesh that out and show a

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<v Speaker 2>little more nuance and not be so stoic as I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you that he is right now, but and

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<v Speaker 2>I may be stretching here, so bear with me. I

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<v Speaker 2>know this is episode one, but one thing that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like dawned on me as I was watching this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love Green Lantern. He's one of my favorite characters. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't pretend to be have like an encyclopedic knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of the characters, you know, comic book history, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm pretty well versed. And one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I've always kind of been curious about in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like the trajectory of the Green Lantern lore

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<v Speaker 2>and the character is I think when he started out,

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<v Speaker 2>like the convention, like the appeal of the character was

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<v Speaker 2>like the superpower is imagination, like basically whatever you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine you can materialize with this ring. As it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of went on and you establish the different you know,

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<v Speaker 2>factions of the core, the Red Lanterns, the Yellow Lanterns,

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<v Speaker 2>what have you, fear became such a much more strong element.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about you know this this this imagination. It's

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<v Speaker 2>more about like do you have the willpower versus the fear?

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to note when you know we have

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<v Speaker 2>the very subtle title card a peer of lanterns. I

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<v Speaker 2>did notice that the first color we see is yellow,

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<v Speaker 2>a yellow light that kind of turns into a green.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you're right. I think as we've been

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<v Speaker 2>kind of taught and you look at other franchises like

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<v Speaker 2>Dune where it's like, you know, fear is the mind killer,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't have fear. I think this is really saying that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>no fear is okay, like fear is is like And

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<v Speaker 2>I know Sinestra is going to be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>this series and he's a he's famously a green lantern

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<v Speaker 2>turned yellow lantern that embraced the fear. I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>onto something there. I think it is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like how do we acknowledge the fear? Because something else

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<v Speaker 2>that stuck out to me again to hop back to

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<v Speaker 2>when John called his dad. It really resonated with me

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<v Speaker 2>because it kind of stuck out, and I'll be completely

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<v Speaker 2>honest at first blush, it kind of rubbed me the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong way because I was like, eh, now, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But his father says to him in response to how

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<v Speaker 2>trying to kill him, he says, they're allowed to have tantrums.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not. We're not. And I was like oh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about white men versus black men like black men.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind this is twenty sixteen when the

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<v Speaker 2>show is set, but there is you know, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to try and speak with some eloquence and some

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<v Speaker 2>wherewithal here. So forgive me if I say anything that

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<v Speaker 2>my intentions are pure here. But there is the stereotype

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<v Speaker 2>of like the angry black man. Right anytime a black

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<v Speaker 2>man in voice voices injustice or something like that, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the angry black man. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to that, like they're allowed to have tantrums, you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But in my own life, you know, having been through

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<v Speaker 2>some therapy and you know, exploring emotional intelligence and what

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<v Speaker 2>that looks like. Anger is a secondary emotion and it's

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<v Speaker 2>often attached to a core emotion like hurt or fear.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that we're seeing this, you know John,

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<v Speaker 2>who is so stoic, not willing to show any emotion

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<v Speaker 2>in any way, shape or form, and I have to imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>like with that line from his father, like they're allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to have tantrums, we're not. Like I do think he's

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<v Speaker 2>very angry on some level. And that's that's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be attached to fear. So when he can, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that fear, acknowledge that anger, I think he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to become a fully fleshed out character that's ready to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, join the DCU forthright and appear in Mana

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow here, And he's going to be a character that

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<v Speaker 1>I think the racial element of that is undeniably there.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think his dad was a military man, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's like the people above you can have

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<v Speaker 1>tantrums towards you, but that rolls downhill.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have a tantrum back and absolutely, and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your guy, who's who's your your commanding officer, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy you're trying to join up with the forces. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I when his dad did the gun thing at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, was it specifically for the lanterns? Like was

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<v Speaker 1>he doing the like are you afraid because of that

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<v Speaker 1>story of the lanterns? Or was that so it was

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<v Speaker 1>unclear unclear like four, Yeah, it felt like he and

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<v Speaker 1>his father had some mutual understanding about like, hey, they're

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<v Speaker 1>both fascinated with the lanterns. Because the first thing he

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<v Speaker 1>asked when he walks through the door, like, are you

419
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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me what his name is? He knew that

420
00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:28.640
<v Speaker 1>they were they were watching the TV, but yeah, unclear

421
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<v Speaker 1>about like are you afraid where that was coming from?

422
00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:34.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, that was something that how Jordan was asked

423
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<v Speaker 1>or not that I don't know, And I mean, you're right,

424
00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a military man.

425
00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.279
<v Speaker 2>How Jordan was a military man? That might be something

426
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<v Speaker 2>that he has privileged knowledge.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Of, right, yeah, maybe what at the beginning remind me?

428
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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning of Superman, they say three decades ago?

429
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<v Speaker 1>Did it start with decades? When were the first a

430
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<v Speaker 1>three hundred?

431
00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Okay, three hundred years and thirty years ago Superman appeared? Oh? Yes, three?

432
00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:04.960
<v Speaker 2>It was three centuries landed?

433
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<v Speaker 1>Was it three centuries when first meta humans were seen

434
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<v Speaker 1>on Earth?

435
00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Three? Yeah? His three decades? Okay.

436
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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to remember because they talk about how

437
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<v Speaker 1>like this the first interview with a meta human or

438
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<v Speaker 1>a superhero basically, and it's in ninety six, which would

439
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<v Speaker 1>be about thirty years prior to.

440
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<v Speaker 2>That.

441
00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:28.880
<v Speaker 1>And when they said, uh, haile in Nebraska, I was like, wait,

442
00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is that could this be have to do with the

443
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Kryptonian coming? But that was sixteen interesting but was he

444
00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.000
<v Speaker 1>said it was twenty sixteen when he was backed up

445
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<v Speaker 1>for I don't know, it's a whole thing, Like there's

446
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of jumping around, which I'm loving, and I

447
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>need to watch it again just to like, because twenty

448
00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:49.440
<v Speaker 1>sixteen is where we spend most of our time in

449
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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Ninety six is when he is first interview.

450
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<v Speaker 1>He said he backed up that halogram, which is great. Yeah,

451
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<v Speaker 1>how did not give him enough credit for that? He

452
00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>said it was ten years ago, so that would be

453
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<v Speaker 1>roughly two thousand and six. So I think we're gonna

454
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<v Speaker 1>be playing with a timeline that, like the years are

455
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<v Speaker 1>always gonna end in six, whether it's nineteen ninety six,

456
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.079
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, two thousand and six, two twenty

457
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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. And I think we see, like the fact

458
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<v Speaker 1>that that haligram showed up there and he was last

459
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>backed up ten years ago, I think that's gonna be

460
00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.079
<v Speaker 1>like something happened that he wanted to hold onto that

461
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.799
<v Speaker 1>backup version of himself or something like that, Like he

462
00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't want like something happened. He seemed totally different, And

463
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if something happened to him that turned him

464
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<v Speaker 1>a little darker, like made him question himself, made him

465
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<v Speaker 1>not want to be backed up, made him not want

466
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<v Speaker 1>to make a reflection of himself. Maybe he screwed up

467
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.519
<v Speaker 1>on a mission, maybe he hurt someone, like I don't know,

468
00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.039
<v Speaker 1>something happened in two thousand and six. I think that

469
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<v Speaker 1>then like changed how Jordan's character. There's just so much

470
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.279
<v Speaker 1>going on with like the different time periods, and I'm

471
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<v Speaker 1>loving that. And I don't think this is gonna be

472
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<v Speaker 1>the first time we visit every one of these time periods.

473
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<v Speaker 1>I think we will see from him as a kid.

474
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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna see more from the two thousand

475
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<v Speaker 1>and six. I think we're gonna see more from twenty

476
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:08.079
<v Speaker 1>sixteen obviously, and then more from twenty twenty six as well.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even just the decision to like end the

478
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>episode letting us know that Hal is dead the frozen

479
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>cadaver there like that again, like not necessarily fargo through

480
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.319
<v Speaker 2>and through, but that just feels like Cohen Brothers, like

481
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:25.519
<v Speaker 2>we're going to give you not the answer to the mystery,

482
00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>but the such a such a heavy reveal regarding the

483
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:30.799
<v Speaker 2>mystery right out of the gate, that we're going to

484
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.839
<v Speaker 2>have to you know, backpedal and plait and go back

485
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>and forth between these various time periods to to you know,

486
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 2>fully realize how we got there. And if I'm not mistaken,

487
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:45.160
<v Speaker 2>John checks to see if Hal has the ring on

488
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>his finger that you know, the frozen cadaver there. He

489
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:51.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the ring, and nother neither does John. John

490
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>still doesn't have the ring at that point ten years

491
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>later in twenty twenty six.

492
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<v Speaker 1>Yep, So I wonder if he's even still training, is

493
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<v Speaker 1>he just like, yeah, they have they seen each other

494
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>since twenty twenty sixteen, Like we might see the demise

495
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of their friendship or their partnership or their you know,

496
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>training at that point. Like, I think they're gonna show,

497
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see all these things happen, and I think

498
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be very interesting and spread out among these

499
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 1>time periods. And I love that element of the story

500
00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot, And you know, I like who these characters are.

501
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that the chemistry builds a little bit as

502
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 1>John loosens up a little bit and maybe like hits

503
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>a breaking point because I think Aaron Pierre has a

504
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>lot in him. He just sure what he's being given

505
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>right now is to you know, be calm, don't have emotions.

506
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.279
<v Speaker 1>And I think I feel that a lot as as

507
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<v Speaker 1>someone who grew up I grew after I've told this

508
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>before podcasting, but one of my biggest religious trauma issues

509
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>growing group of my raising was I grew up in

510
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 1>a faith that said, you know, deny yourself, deny yourself,

511
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.839
<v Speaker 1>deny yourself, deny yourself, deny yourself. And that meant anything

512
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 1>you want is not like any you want, any of

513
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>your emotions that really has should.

514
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Have no.

515
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Bearing on what you should do. Your emotions, your own

516
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>desires are just distractions from what God wants, right, Like,

517
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with that, and so like the story

518
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of someone going through something where they're told like, do

519
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 1>not feel do you do what you're supposed to do,

520
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 1>check all the boxes, do the things you're supposed to do,

521
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and don't follow your emotions is something I've had I'm

522
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 1>having to go through as a as a freaking thirty

523
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 1>forty year old man, I've had to really like unlearn

524
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that totally. And so like I'm feeling

525
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the idea of the storyline, and I love Damon Lindelof

526
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 1>so much that like I'm here for it.

527
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm very much here for it.

528
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's part of what disappoints me a little

529
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 1>bit about the tone, too, is that, like, I understand

530
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they're going for this very specific thing it feels like,

531
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but Damon Lindelof's shows have a lot of fun in them,

532
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and so like, I just was expecting a little more fun.

533
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Even though I knew they were going for this vibe

534
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 1>like I was, I was expecting it to have a

535
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>little more that flavor. Watchman is one of my favorite

536
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>shows I've ever seen, and like, that show is totally

537
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and he hits on all cylinders, tons of drama, tons

538
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 1>of seriousness, but I am constantly entertained by the little

539
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>weirdnesses of the show, you know, yeah, and just didn't

540
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 1>have that yet.

541
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I might be being overly optimistic, but I suspect those

542
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>things are coming because it's been a while since I've

543
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.559
<v Speaker 2>watched Watchmen. But as I recall some of the flourishes,

544
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 2>like the I can't remember the name of the character

545
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 2>where there was the guy that basically he dressed in

546
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 2>a leotard and sprayed down the grease that he so

547
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 2>that slide away, and he was just kind of like

548
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>this background character that was seated throughout the series. I

549
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>think things like that are coming and even with like

550
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I remember we talked about it on Multiverse News, the

551
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>casting of Jason Ritter, and I was like, oh, this

552
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>seems so obvious. He's obviously going to be the son

553
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>of the corrupted, like sheriff or something like that, that

554
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 2>has hold on the town. And that is true to

555
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>some degree. He's the son of Will Macon, who clearly

556
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 2>has some influence over the town, and his wife is

557
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>very much you know, warning like, you know, don't get

558
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 2>debt to this guy until you know what he's about.

559
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>But I was I was, again to say, pleasantly surprised.

560
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>It was you know, Jason Ritter is this lawyer who

561
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>seems none the wiser really, but maybe that's just a

562
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>guy's but that again, that's what intrigues me just knowing

563
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 2>about it. Lindelof at the Helm like me too. There

564
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>are already so many questions about allegiances, like how even

565
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>goes in immediately suspicious, you know, like, oh, what do

566
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you want from me? How am I going to be

567
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>in debt to you? If I if I help you,

568
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>if I join your anti federal militia here and like, no,

569
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>we're against the aliens. And even with that interrogation of Whalen,

570
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>who reveals himself to be an alien, and he says,

571
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.799
<v Speaker 2>ultimately the goal is vengeance, but there was there was

572
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.359
<v Speaker 2>a sense of I know, I know he's an alien,

573
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 2>but forgive the term here, just like humanity, like there

574
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 2>was like some pain. There was for sure pathos there,

575
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like something had been lost. And again to knowing that

576
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it's Lindelof and his sensibilities and considering the modern time

577
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>where that we're in and how police departments are really

578
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.799
<v Speaker 2>being kind of looked at and is their corruption there?

579
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Should they be defunded, you know, even though they protect

580
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the public or that's the general sentiment, what are they

581
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>actually doing? I think the lanterns are being questioned in

582
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a real way. And I think that that alien Whalen

583
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>was was kind of positing that kind of right up front,

584
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>and I.

585
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Too, And I mean, even making will you will you

586
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Macon while he's cooking, he says, you know, he's suspicious

587
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 1>of all non Earth entities, you know, like these aliens.

588
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But even when he talks about the Ring, because he

589
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>knows this is part of the Lantern core. He says,

590
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>now you got that weapon of mass destruction on your finger.

591
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like he doesn't view the Ring as a positive thing.

592
00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's not sure even though this is a

593
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>super he's viewing the ring as a weapon of mass

594
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>destruction that just walked into his kitchen and he would

595
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:05.839
<v Speaker 1>rather have it on his side than not. But I

596
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 1>think he thinks of it even as a you know,

597
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 1>a extra terrestrial threat.

598
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Which is a lifelong fan of both Green Lantern and

599
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings. How it's never dawned on me

600
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>before how the Ring could be viewed in that way.

601
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>It just felt so much like Fellowship of the Ring,

602
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like we could use the ring, or like no, the

603
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Ring should be destroyed. Yeah, that's a good point.

604
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a good point, by the way, that that that

605
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>actor Garrett Dilla Hunt that plays William William Macon. I

606
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>love that guy. He's been on a number of things

607
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 1>that I really liked to I don't recognize him. He

608
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 1>was a regular, like a regular kind of villain type

609
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>person on a Burn Notice, which is a show I

610
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 1>really liked.

611
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I do like Burn Notice. I haven't watched it from

612
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>beginning to end, but I've I've I enjoy it when

613
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 2>it when I catch it.

614
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm pretty sure, you know, unless I'm wrong,

615
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at design to be I might be totally

616
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>wrong on who that is, but I think, yeah, Fear

617
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of the walk Dead. He's a regular, a regular on

618
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Through the Walking Dead, and he was one of my

619
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>favorite characters on that. Okay, and Byrne noticed I remember

620
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 1>his face. I'm scanning and I don't see it in

621
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>his IMDb, but it might just be like too far

622
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 1>down because that show.

623
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't too popular.

624
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at his his what his top casting things are,

625
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 1>but uh, he's been in a lot of stuff.

626
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>No Country for Old Men apparently. Oh interesting. Okay, I

627
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 2>have to look him up and look up his filmography.

628
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>But I I'm glad you mentioned him because at the

629
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>first time he was introduced, and I know, it was

630
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of at a distance, and when they were close up,

631
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I bought his age a little

632
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>bit more. But like the fact that he's supposed to

633
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>be Jason Rider's father, I was like, whoa, he was

634
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 2>like surprisingly young. But then when you get to reveal

635
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that Zoe is his wife who hooked up with Aaron

636
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 2>John Stewart. I immediately was like, is something going on

637
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 2>to like make these people age at a you know,

638
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>decelerated or you know, less accelerated rate or something like that.

639
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's called celebrity I think, uh, that's so

640
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking there. Yeah, I saw an article crossed my

641
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Feet earlier that said like, celebrities are refusing.

642
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 2>To age and it's ruining media. But I mean even

643
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>in the context of the story, like again, Zoe who

644
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>who Aaron Pierre hooked up with? When? And I'm not

645
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to be you know, you know, check me if

646
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>if my if if I'm out of lye here. But

647
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, she's clearly, you know, not the most

648
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.680
<v Speaker 2>conventionally or traditionally attractive woman. She's got you know, some

649
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 2>some wear and tear to her. But I did not

650
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>expect you to be a grandma. I did not expect

651
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you to be a.

652
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Grand I knew, I know you mean, but she's got

653
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>some wear in tear to her.

654
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty rough. Was that Laura Lenny? Uh No, I don't.

655
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we've seen Laura Lenny yet. Unless she's

656
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.319
<v Speaker 2>the sheriff, I'd be really surprised. If she was the sheriff.

657
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I think the sheriff is McDonald. Okay, I kept thinking

658
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it was Carrie Kune, but that's just probably the true

659
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>detective bias there.

660
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I'm looking at the Laura Lennie doesn't

661
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>have a I'm so bad with faces. I'm looking at

662
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 1>all these people. No, yeah, it's not Laura Lenny. No,

663
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 1>it can't be because I know her from Ozark and

664
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and yeah yeah, and that's just not her face. But uh,

665
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 1>she must have been nut. She just must not be

666
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 1>on the main page here. But Kelly McDonald, who plays Carrie,

667
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the sheriff.

668
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that's that's what my researches is turning up

669
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>as well. I feel like i'd recognize Laurel Lenny if

670
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I ye definitely always had a little bit of a

671
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 2>crush on her. Oh yeah, very nice, especially considering she's,

672
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, a little bit of an older woman for me. Yeah,

673
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>wear and tear there. I was trying to remember what

674
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you said. I was trying to the phrases so I.

675
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Could be like, yeah, not too much wear and tear

676
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 1>for you there, jays Gunning.

677
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Good lord, it's the way she hates my guts. It's

678
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the way she hates them. It's a really good line.

679
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.599
<v Speaker 2>It's a really good line anyway.

680
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>So there's a number of things I really like about

681
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the show. I really, I really do, and I'm so

682
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>pumped to see Also, I'm excited for Kyle Chandler in

683
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>this role because like they've got him in this very

684
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>particular part in his career as Hal Jordan where he's

685
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 1>like grizzled and older, and we're gonna see him over

686
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the course of it looks like from ninety six to

687
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, So we've got like a thirty year

688
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>time period to work with. And they say in that

689
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>interview at the beginning, he came to Earth ten years

690
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 1>ago or he got the Lantern ten years ago, so

691
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>he's been around.

692
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Since eighty six.

693
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Wow, So like I if I'm not mistaken. So so

694
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 1>that's forty years of how Jordan before he's dead in

695
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this episode. So like that means anything they do with

696
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the DCU in the future where they do like kind

697
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of flashbacky stuff, we could to have a dahed Kyle

698
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Chandler hopping around. It'sl Jordan at any moment, And I kind.

699
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Of love that. I was for a split second thinking

700
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that we were gonna get Nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner because

701
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>when Aaron Pierre John Stewart shows up to Nebraska and

702
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, he has to intervene the police line that's

703
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>at the city limits there and they say he gets

704
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>on the radio and he says there's another one. I

705
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, Guy Gardner has already showed up because

706
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>he heard that how Jordan was on his way over here,

707
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and not yeah, we know he's going to appear in

708
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the in the in the season, but not not quite Yeah.

709
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I wonder, so they said that he's the

710
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>first lantern for Earth, and apparently there's at least in

711
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, he's the only lantern I believe they say, right,

712
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>so before twenty twenty six when Superman is a cur

713
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five or whatever, there's there's at least

714
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Guy Gardner. Does that mean Hal's either done or an

715
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 1>active or I don't know. I'm more could it be

716
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>that this this happens before and like Guy Gardner ends

717
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>up with the Ring or whatever, Like I don't know.

718
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's what kind of what I'm wondering too.

719
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 2>I think again about that final scene, seeing the frozen

720
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>cadaver they're not having a ring and knowing that John

721
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have it, I was immediately thinking, oh, you know,

722
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.519
<v Speaker 2>it must be in the hands of some villain, but

723
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe guy has it. Yeah, that's the issue.

724
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Flew off of his hand like it did for Abn

725
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Sour or whatever, and like Aben sir, I don't know.

726
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm confused. No, No, you're right, Abencer. It's it's really

727
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 2>tough when it comes to Abencer and in Yeah, that's

728
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 2>what I was right, because we that thing flew off.

729
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that thing flew off of his hand and went

730
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 1>straight to uh Guy Gardner who put it on, and

731
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 1>and that maybe that's where he is in super But

732
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 1>that would I think the timeline doesn't work because I

733
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 1>think that happens before I think Superman happens before the

734
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six.

735
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I think unclear. I think it's supposed to be like

736
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>concurrent with when it came out. I think it's supposed

737
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 2>to be Circle twenty twenty five, not justining.

738
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>So who do you think is footing the bill? And

739
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's one obvious answer, who is footing

740
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the bill for Macon's militia.

741
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>You think it's obvious. Well, with you thinking saying you

742
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>think it's obvious, that leads me to thinking maybe it's

743
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Lex Luthor. Yeah, okay, that was not my immediate thought though,

744
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>but I do like that. I do you like it? Yeah?

745
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

746
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it could easily be a The Internet

747
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>says that Superman is set in May of twenty twenty five,

748
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>so guy already had the ring tracks. Yeah, I thought

749
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 1>it was set when it came out, which would make sense.

750
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, yeah, I'm I'm wondering.

751
00:37:56.280 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 1>If it could be Lex Luthor just hates aliens as

752
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>much as you know. Uh, he's kind of young, though,

753
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I think to have because this is ten years before,

754
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>so it'd be nine years before his role in Superman.

755
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>So could he be paying is he is he too?

756
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Is he too young? Or could be his father? Could

757
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it be you know, oh yeah, yeah Lex Luthor. In

758
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>the comics, Lex has a sordid history with his father,

759
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>so totally could be. Yeah.

760
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just why like the fact that they had

761
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 1>that conversation about how someone owns this lamb but the

762
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>government wouldn't he wouldn't want the government to know because

763
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>they'll crack down and all that stuff.

764
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, who could it be. I'm glad you

765
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 2>brought that up too, because maybe I've gotten the point

766
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 2>across with everything else that we talked about. But I

767
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>do think colonialism is going to be a strong through

768
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>line for this series as well, because will William Macon says,

769
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, this belonged to the Sue and another tribe

770
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>before them, and that's the scary thing about colonialism when

771
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>you're the ones being colonized. That's why we're so scared

772
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>of these extraterrestrial threats here.

773
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm I'm I'm low in that character, and I'm

774
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>really I feel like it's.

775
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Very possible that that I thought it was.

776
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>We were getting a story of kind of kind of

777
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>like The Captain Marvel, where there's the alien threat, and

778
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>then we find out it's really the the response to

779
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the alien threat that we really be worried about, you

780
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like this militia is going after

781
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 1>schools for refugees. Yeaheah, maybe these are just refugees, but

782
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 1>then that guy says that they're there because of war.

783
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that could still be refugees though, like there

784
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>could be a refugee.

785
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Thing happening here. He says that in the same breath though,

786
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 2>that like I had to come to this planet that

787
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 2>cares more about football a sport of competition, than they

788
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>do about famine and the violence of their atmosphere, innocence whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

789
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah.

790
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I don't know, very interesting to see where

791
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>where all that's going. And uh, it's it doesn't seem

792
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like either one is an obvious hero Revillain there right,

793
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned. I'm concerned about Making and his militia obviously,

794
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm also that alien didn't seem like your friendly

795
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 1>neighborhood alien.

796
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.239
<v Speaker 2>No, he didn't, he did not.

797
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I love that he called John out for

798
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>sleeping with his wife.

799
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so funny. Will you say, like, nothing nothing

800
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.840
<v Speaker 2>better than eating off another man's grill? Oh?

801
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Good lord, it's pretty pretty pretty rough, pretty rough?

802
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 2>All right?

803
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, uh, I feel good, feel good? Anything else you

804
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 1>want to mention about this episode?

805
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Just the last thing that kind of comes to mind again,

806
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 2>just to speak to I love Kyle Chandler, always have,

807
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like he's kind of like perfectly cast

808
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>for this role in this series and the approach that

809
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 2>they're taking, because even just with like the fact that

810
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.519
<v Speaker 2>we find his body on like bleachers there and like

811
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 2>just the football field setting, given his Friday Night lights

812
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>ten year, it just yep, it's it's meshing in a

813
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>well in a way that really works for me. Yeah, well,

814
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>it was almost too much.

815
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>In the first episode, there's like four football mentions where

816
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 1>he talks good offense or defense and he's like, whenever

817
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>they need me, he's like, good man, Like that is just.

818
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Coach Taylor right there, like one hundred percent, and it's

819
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Pierre that gets to have the real like coaching moment.

820
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 2>That's true. That is true.

821
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's he's picking up the Coach Taylor mantle.

822
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 2>There we go. Well, I'm loving it.

823
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I like, like, like I said, I a little slow.

824
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 1>It is my only real complaint. I like what it's doing,

825
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm very interested in all the characters and stuff.

826
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, same here. I feel like I'm a little

827
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>bit higher on this premiere than you are. But that's

828
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that's completely okay. We'll see where the series goes awesome.

829
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, man, Well, I will talk to you soon

830
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be back right.

831
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Here and always watching.

832
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh you want to tell the people anything about you

833
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 1>got going on there, Scoots.

834
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can always catch me over on Multiverse News.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Strand up Pad podcast where we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the latest and great in movie, TV and sometimes video

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<v Speaker 2>game news. And then if you want to follow me

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<v Speaker 2>on my personal stuff over on YouTube at Jase Scotti

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<v Speaker 2>for real, trying to put out some movie reviews and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But the main thing that's kind of coming up here

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm working on developing a short horror film to

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<v Speaker 2>come out before the Halloween season, so that'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>good place to keep tuned in for all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear about that, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back real soon right here. I'm always over

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<v Speaker 1>there at Multiverse News as well. Check that out Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>Cinematic Universe Podcast. We've got a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>on over there because all the D twenty three announcements

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<v Speaker 1>and trailers. Oh yeah, yeah, Vision Quest trailer, Doomsday trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>X x Men cast like kinds of stuff. So come

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<v Speaker 1>join us over there Marvel cinemat Universe Podcast. We did

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded a doomsday trailer reaction that's gonna go up

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube tonight and all kinds of stuff, So follow,

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe here on the podcast and always watching and yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know we're doing plugs here, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>many people probably won't listen to this, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to make this podcast longer than it needs.

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<v Speaker 2>To be, but I did want to mention like the

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<v Speaker 2>timing of this I actually think is kind of ideal

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't at first when the series was first

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<v Speaker 2>n out announced, it felt like we had to wait

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<v Speaker 2>so long for it to come out. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>in the wake of all these Marvel announcements but having

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<v Speaker 2>to wait for any of those things to actually come

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<v Speaker 2>to fruition, this is kind of a perfect time where

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<v Speaker 2>the hype and interest around like superhero properties has been

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<v Speaker 2>brought up that I think DC is really going to

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<v Speaker 2>benefit from it. Yeah, and I think as Marvel is

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<v Speaker 2>making a return to being the the golden child on

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<v Speaker 2>the silver screen, I think DC can kind of potentially

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<v Speaker 2>step in and really build a strong table of TV offerings.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will see they've always done well in TV,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we have. So Yeah, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric, We'll be back. Peace you keep watching or will

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<v Speaker 2>be watching while since we'll be watching it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to always watching a Stranded Panda podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you dig this podcast and want to see what

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<v Speaker 1>all our other myriad.

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<v Speaker 2>Of podcasts in this geeky TV space. Thanks again