WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:03.600 Read step by step how it happened. But there are 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:07.200 quite a few interesting details in the documents so far. 3 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:10.160 Now keep in mind, too, we don't have all of 4 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.560 the documents yet. As I understand, there's still about a 5 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:16.719 third that are being still withheld, so there might still 6 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:17.559 be another. 7 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:20.320 Cachet. 8 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:25.480 Also, we learn that certain search terms don't work very well. 9 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.399 So let's go over here too. And when a lot 10 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.200 of people are saying, oh, we already knew all this 11 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.640 and this was already out there, it's true. So some 12 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.520 of these documents probably were all ready to classify. But 13 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:44.759 keep in mind, I mean, you can only do so 14 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.439 much in twenty four hours with eighty thousand pages or 15 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.079 whatever it is, and most people don't have time to 16 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:53.920 read this. People are saying, oh, let's put it into 17 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:57.320 you know, chat GBT or figure out some AI or 18 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.439 program or whatever. Well, it's a lot of these documents 19 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:04.319 are really difficult to read because of the you know, 20 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.799 old print and the typewriters, et cetera. So we're gonna 21 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:10.560 try our best to kind of walk through. 22 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:13.680 The ones that. 23 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:19.000 I found from what was going around on Twitter that 24 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.200 were the most interesting and the most relevant. I'll save 25 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.840 the hottest of those towards the end, but that also 26 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:29.959 was something pretty much well known in regard to James 27 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.560 Jesus Angleton, who was you know, very close to Israel, 28 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:39.799 had back channels with Israeli intelligence, and those those elements, 29 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.400 those four or five pages so far are pretty relevant. 30 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:48.239 They're pretty pretty important because they do establish a lot 31 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:56.920 of what Piper and Roger Stone have talked about in 32 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.480 their text. But there's also other connections that are very 33 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:04.719 fascinating that, as you know, vindicate a lot of what 34 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:08.479 we've been looking into for the last several years. And 35 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.560 this relates to, you know, my own background being in 36 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.599 the world of Catholicism, and so a lot of Roman 37 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.960 Catholics get really mad today but will not come on 38 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:18.520 and discuss or debated. I've asked one of the larger 39 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.280 set of a contest apparently set of a contest profiles. 40 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:23.400 They ran away, they blocked me. 41 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:26.479 They won't come debate, but I still shared it. If 42 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.360 any of them want to come and discuss this, they're 43 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:35.759 welcome to bring their information. And my chief source on 44 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:40.879 this is of course the famous Roman Catholic lawyer and 45 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:46.479 traditional writer David Wimhoff, who wrote this excellent, massive tone. 46 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.960 It's about eight hundred pages. 47 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.400 It's almost a thousand, so a thousand page tome here 48 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:56.919 John Courtney, Murray, Time Life Magazine, and the American Proposition. 49 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:02.080 And Weimoff's book is exceedingly well documented. I think he 50 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:07.520 has about eight hundred ish footnotes, and he really just 51 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.800 goes through even a lot of the material that you've 52 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.960 heard me cover, setting the stage for the papacy in 53 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.639 the twentieth century and how we got to Vatican two. 54 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.520 He goes through the Quigly text as you've heard me 55 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:19.240 do for many years. 56 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:20.039 So this is actually a. 57 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:26.120 Really good kind of an addition to the Quigly texts. Now, 58 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.680 in regard to Gladio, people were saying, oh, you've only 59 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.639 read one book on Gladio. No, I've read multiple books 60 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.159 on Gladio. But I don't even consider that I'm. 61 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.120 Some Gladio expert. 62 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.000 It's not like I can, it's not like I just 63 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.840 like everything's tending on my views of Gladio. And I 64 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:42.879 listed a lot of these texts. You know, First of all, 65 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.719 the first time I heard of this was about twenty fourteen, 66 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:53.400 maybe earlier, from fle Wingdahll Wingdall Flee Mingdahl Full Spectrum Dominance. 67 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.039 And then there is of course Daniel Ganser's thesis. It 68 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.000 looks like a PhD thesis. I think NATO's Secret Army 69 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:06.520 by doctor Ganter. There is Paul Williams's text Operation Gladio. 70 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.360 And we also covered the John Kaylor text which was 71 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:10.520 about spies in the Vatican. 72 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:11.080 That he's a. 73 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.479 CIA writer writing about the history of the CIA in 74 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:15.000 the Vatican. 75 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:16.639 And I've covered many. 76 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.600 Other texts, so I have a long time spent in 77 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:23.199 this subject matter. Again, this one's a thousand pages. And 78 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:25.279 even that I don't still don't even think, oh, that 79 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.439 makes me an expert. I'm not a subject matter expert. 80 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.759 And Gladio I don't even think that. Don't even claim that. 81 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.399 I've got other books that are conspiracy texts that I've 82 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.240 read too, like John Coleman's text that covered Gladio before 83 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:39.959 it was known as Gladio, as as I did with 84 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:41.879 I don't have this book at this house, but God's 85 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:46.319 Banker it also covered Gladio before it was known as Gladio. 86 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:51.120 And so when people want to just talk smack on 87 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.759 the internet and they won't come defend their positions to me, 88 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.600 it's just a signal of attention seeking or just completely 89 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:02.959 just total weakness. And you guys know, I've been asking 90 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:08.000 for about two years for any prominent Roman Catholics. I've 91 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.079 reached out to historians, I've reached out to professors. I've 92 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.839 asked Trent Horne to suggest other people since he won't 93 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.959 do it to debate the geopolitics of the papacy. Know, 94 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.279 one of these guys making a big fuss on the 95 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:23.759 internet on his blog claims he's a papal historian, but 96 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.680 he won't come debate it. So they all love to 97 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.879 talk smack and say, oh, he's only read one book. 98 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:31.839 He thinks he's an expert. 99 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:32.199 No, I don't. 100 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:34.399 I don't think I'm an expert. In fact, if you 101 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.639 got information that would correct any of my theories, I'm 102 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.800 more than willing to be corrected on it. Welcome every 103 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.600 big eleven hundred. But what we're going to see. 104 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:45.519 Is that. 105 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.079 What was discussed in a lot of the Gladio literature 106 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.160 is once again backed up, and not just the Gladio idea, 107 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.720 but in fact the usage of the Roman Catholic Church 108 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.839 by the CIA during the Old War as a as 109 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:04.720 a sort of a form of soft power, I think 110 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:05.680 is the best way to put it. 111 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:07.079 And so again, a lot of. 112 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:10.160 These documents are really difficult to decode, and probably over 113 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.639 time people will be able to piece together more. But 114 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.959 the first one I noticed it was interesting was this one. 115 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:17.800 So let's take a look at this. Maybe I should 116 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:23.160 make the screen bigger. And this one talks about the 117 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:30.639 CIA exploiting its connections. I can't even read that. You'll 118 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.680 notice most relevant is the last section, which says with 119 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:39.600 which CIA has exploitable access in regard to the Catholic 120 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:44.000 Church in these certain nations. Now, remember for most Normies, 121 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.240 or for most Roman Catholics, or even Tridcats, they think 122 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:51.040 this is actually outlandish. They think that, oh, you're a 123 00:06:51.120 --> 00:07:00.839 KGB Orthodox bro. Look, both large churches, Roman Catholic Orthodox 124 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:06.639 will have this type of religious infiltration and subversion. And 125 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.800 so the Roman Catholics who are saying that I don't 126 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.399 talk about this in Orthodox, it's just completely not true. 127 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:17.480 I've interviewed subject matter experts on this. Metropolitan Jonah knows 128 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.120 the history of the r Russian Church very well. We 129 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.319 have an entire hour and a half two hour interview 130 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:22.959 on this subject. 131 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:25.079 I have. 132 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:30.120 Done multiple podcasts over the years, including multiple interviews with 133 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:37.639 Jim Jatras on the subversion of the ecumenical patriarch. Somebody 134 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:42.519 keeps you're welcome to come speak that. I don't know why 135 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:44.920 you're going emoji crazy anytime I see if somebody going 136 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:47.800 emoji crazy, Cajun, stay them, you want to come talk, 137 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:51.800 you're going emoji nuts. 138 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:52.959 I'm ready. Let's do it. 139 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:55.519 Let's have a debate on this subject. Nobody will ever 140 00:07:55.519 --> 00:08:01.000 come to bate me on the geopolitical stuff. That's interesting. Cajun, 141 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:14.000 stay them, what's up? Come on, look, I want people 142 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.839 to come to debate, and we're gonna have open discussion. 143 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:19.399 We're gonna talk about the role of the sea, the papacy, 144 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:23.720 foreign nations, which I just did an entire three hour 145 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:24.600 lecture on the other end. 146 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.120 You don't ever talk about Middle Eastern countries. Oh really, 147 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:29.079 I just did a three. 148 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:32.440 Hour lecture on their intelligence services the other night. You 149 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:37.919 don't ever talk the boy come and discuss man. 150 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.919 He ran away, so they emojimy and then they run 151 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:47.679 away Cajun, which that means he's got to be Catholic 152 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:48.279 if he's Cajun. 153 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.279 And then he runs away. So that's what you give 154 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:50.879 with these people. 155 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:54.519 None of these Roman Catholics, not one of them in 156 00:08:54.600 --> 00:09:00.799 two years, can come defend the papacy's tie ins at 157 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.440 a geopolitical level with the intelligence agencies and the corruption 158 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:09.639 of the Vatican Bank and the money laundering in things 159 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:10.279 like Ladio. 160 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.159 Even their historians don't want to come defend it. 161 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:15.440 Now. 162 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:21.159 Every time I bring this up that they say, oh, 163 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.320 why are you ignoring your own church's problems, the Orthodox 164 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.440 Church with KGB. No, No, do you understand I've already 165 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:34.360 done podcasts and discussions about the EP even in the 166 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:38.879 Cold War Athenagoras and others working with the OSS and 167 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:43.000 the CIA when those documents were declassified. So it's people 168 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:44.960 have no knowledge of these subjects and just want to 169 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.759 whine and bitch when we've covered the actual declassified cables 170 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.960 where they're talking to Dulles and the OSS. What are 171 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.399 you what are you talking about? So it's like the 172 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.960 Roman Catholic world is just full of idiots, total idiots. 173 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:06.159 And one of the ways that we. 174 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.600 Hammered home the Gladio situation was if you remember in 175 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.720 the videos that we did a couple years ago and 176 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.320 the role the CIA and the papacyat I didn't just 177 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:18.600 read the critical assessment from Catholic author Wim Hoff. I 178 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.879 read a positive assessment from CIA writer John Kaylor, and 179 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:24.480 we did a whole lecture on that book, and then 180 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:30.360 we compared it to the anti CIA assessments of Gancer. 181 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:32.279 And Paul Williams. 182 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.440 Paulliams is also Catholic, or at least he was. I 183 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.840 think he's left Catholicism now or doesn't believe it anymore. 184 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.759 So it's just totally not true that like these people 185 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:44.600 just have no idea. Whe they're talking, there's whining and bitching. 186 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.799 It's really annoying too, because if they were to come 187 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:51.279 and debate for about five minutes, they would get demolished. 188 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:55.000 Cryptic enigma. We're going to go through these documents, but 189 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:56.720 this guy's already wanted debate. 190 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:57.200 Let's do it. 191 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:13.559 I'm mute, dude, Hello, Yeah, I like your stuck man. 192 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.600 You have a really interesting take about that, like what 193 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.600 you're going on with the Roman Catholic and the CIA 194 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.399 and ties and all that. 195 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:22.600 So I am. 196 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.440 Roman Catholic, but I'm just trying to find out what 197 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:28.960 if you could go into. 198 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:29.960 Your position a little bit more. 199 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:34.519 I'm not disagreeing with you that there's corruption, and I 200 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:38.679 mean there's corruption in any institution. And are you saying 201 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:43.639 that any corruption or the amount of corruption eventually discredits 202 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.759 an institution like especially like the papacy. 203 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.039 Yeah, maybe you can go into a little bit right. 204 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.440 So, No, the argument is not that corruption is the problem. 205 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.279 The argument is that in the Roman Catholic system, the 206 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.559 papacy is the foundation of the church. But now wait 207 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:04.799 a minute, if the papacy is being influenced by outside 208 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.320 forces like the CIA in terms of who they elect, 209 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.120 then I want to pose a new argument that I 210 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.080 have crafted this morning about this in regard to the papacy, 211 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.600 because you'll get different answers from Roman Catholics about the 212 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:20.360 question of is the decision of the pope by the 213 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:25.679 cardinals of the Holy Spirit is it an infallible magisterial decision? 214 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.120 Because if it is, then we have to deal with 215 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.840 the problem that many Roman Catholic apologists and even Benedic 216 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.159 the sixteenth brings up. Well, then why did the Holy 217 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:40.559 Spirit in so many papal elections choose already known corruptible 218 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:46.039 or a corrupted evil men. And secondly, if it's not 219 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.600 magisterial then if a fallible pope is elected, if the 220 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.000 decision of the papacy itself is fallible, then by definition, 221 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.879 all of the actions that he's doing would also then 222 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.559 potentially be fallible. So it seems to me that if 223 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.960 you wanted to argue that the magistering of the papacy 224 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:08.639 is infallible, you would also need to have infallible decisions 225 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.720 to choose that pope. Otherwise you could always conceivably question 226 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.440 the election of that pope. So that to me is 227 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:19.279 a good example of how if the CIA, for example, 228 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.279 was deeply involved in helping Paul the Six get elected 229 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:27.559 because the CI was concerned about the Cold War pro 230 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.600 Marxist positions of some of the cardinals that might get elected, 231 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.200 how am I supposed to believe that? So now, what 232 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.879 the Holy spirits leading the CIA to help the Vatican 233 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:36.840 make these decisions. 234 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:39.120 It's just it doesn't make sense. 235 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.000 So, no, the argument is not applicable to the Orthodox 236 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.960 Church because we don't have a position like Vatican One 237 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.000 that says that the papacy is the infallible rock of 238 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:48.440 the Church. 239 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:55.879 Okay, I kind of do get where you're going. But 240 00:13:55.960 --> 00:14:01.919 it also seems like there's two different two different ways 241 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.200 of looking at it. Like it's like you're going in 242 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:11.399 the political a sense of like elections and the seats, 243 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:12.879 and I get with the. 244 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.679 Infallibility of the pope. 245 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.879 And them being elected by other people. 246 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:20.679 And basically, in. 247 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:21.320 Order to. 248 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.559 Win, for me to concede too, I'd have to agree 249 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:32.320 that people are not flawed and imperfect. 250 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:35.080 Or no, it has nothing to do with people being 251 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.440 flawed and imperfect. It has to do with magisterium and 252 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:42.519 what the Roman CALLI church itself defines about the magisterium. 253 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:46.799 When the magisterrum decides things, it is infallible and irreformable. 254 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:51.679 So it's not about human failings and human weakness because 255 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:55.720 everybody believes that. It's not about impeccability. It's about the 256 00:14:55.840 --> 00:15:04.600 question of indefectibility and infallibility of the magisterium. 257 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.440 Well, the you're saying basically the people that made the 258 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:12.279 magisty room right that that and then everyone's just kind. 259 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:16.440 Of made No, it's not what I'm saying. I'm saying 260 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.759 that your church defines about itself what magisterium is and 261 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.799 what infallibility and ex cathedral are. 262 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:24.240 That's what I'm saying. 263 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:29.600 Okay, And you're saying that those current rules right now 264 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:35.279 are basically they go against what the Church claims that 265 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:37.519 since they're being subverted. 266 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.559 Your no, they make it. 267 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.120 There's two different arguments. One argument is about the contradiction 268 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:48.279 of a fallible election of an infallible leader. That's one 269 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:53.720 argument separate from the question of geopolitical influence of things 270 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:58.120 like the CIA and the American deep state in the 271 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:02.399 papal elections, and ultimately beyond that with the Vatican Bank 272 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:05.480 and it being used to funnel money for black ops. 273 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:08.559 So two different things. But I'm just simply saying that 274 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.399 we'll give you another example. I mean, wim Hoff argues 275 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.840 that a lot of the ecumenism in Vatican two, like 276 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:19.240 in Nosratat, but that's the result of elements of Western 277 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.279 intelligence agencies, people like John Cortney. Murray was working with 278 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:27.039 the CIO on record to get a liberalized document passed 279 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.399 at Vatican two. So that's another example that it's not 280 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.600 just weakness and human failings, it's the run macaloity Church 281 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:37.480 dogmatizing CIA's ecumenist positions. 282 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:44.279 Okay, interesting, I'm kind of a dumb dumb, especially with 283 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:48.639 like historicity, but it's an interesting I have to hop 284 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:49.840 off I'll be listening. 285 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:50.200 In the background. 286 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:53.919 But uh yeah, thanks for thanks for askering my questions. 287 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:54.519 Going into a. 288 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:58.879 Little bit sure again, the book that you would want 289 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:03.759 to read is David wim Hoff's magisterial text, John Courtney Murray, 290 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:09.880 Timelife Magazine, and the American Proposition. The American Proposition is 291 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.680 called the Doctrinal Warfare Program. It was declassified in twenty thirteen. 292 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.720 I just did a video, a little short video the 293 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.960 other day covering it that got quite a bit of views. 294 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:21.799 But if you go to my channel you'll see then 295 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:22.359 I cover. 296 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.440 It in I don't know, let's see hour and a 297 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.319 half and then three hours four and a half. 298 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:28.279 These are both part two. 299 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:29.920 So this is about eight hours on this book that 300 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:32.160 I've lectured on this book, if you want to go 301 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:35.039 deep into his book now, David Wimoff is a traditional 302 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:39.519 Roman Catholic lawyer. He's not an orthodox conspiracy bro. He's 303 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:44.960 not a libtard. He's a trad cat, so you guys 304 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.440 need he goes on trad cat podcast. He's been on 305 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:59.440 with Flanders and Marshall or whatever. But it's not just 306 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.160 tradcat critics like this material. You can find quite a 307 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:09.839 bit on it in mainline academic literature. I covered the 308 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.359 Michael Graziano book Aaron into the Wilderness, which is an 309 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.480 academic history of the CI's relationship to religion. We did 310 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.559 a whole lecture on that book. So it's crazy, like 311 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.480 I lectured through all these books and all you people 312 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.920 just talk shit on the internet and you can't defend 313 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.799 any of your positions. And when the declassified documents come out, 314 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:29.880 you just act like thirteen year olds and you have 315 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.200 another breakdown. So what does this document say? This is 316 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.240 a document just pointing to the CAA during the Cold 317 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:40.119 War exploiting its contacts, thank you in the Roman Catholic 318 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.839 Church in a lot of Latin South American countries. That's 319 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.880 just one example. Okay, So I found that one interesting. 320 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.400 That was the first one that I think somebody sent 321 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:50.000 me that one. 322 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:51.960 Let's see. 323 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:59.440 The next one that I noticed was interesting was this 324 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:04.680 is a line reporting entity called Leading Report. They noticed that, 325 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.079 and this was already well known if you looked into 326 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.839 this literature, because of course Jack Ruby is part of 327 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:17.359 organized crime and the Middle Eastern intelligence or seeing me, 328 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:22.119 the Middle Eastern faction of organized crime. If you understand 329 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.000 what I'm referring to So Jack Ruby is out of 330 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.799 that outfit, and he was working, he was a mobster, 331 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:35.160 and so the nightclub, if I recall, was Jack Ruby's nightclub. 332 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:39.480 So that's in the memos apparently. But this was already 333 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:43.000 known and in the JFK research for many years. So 334 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:47.440 this is another thing positive that was verified because people. 335 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.480 Say, oh, it's a dowey if you'd say that Oswald 336 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:51.319 was hanging out. 337 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:55.039 If I recall, Ruby owned a strip club steakhouse, and 338 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.799 so wait a minute, why is Lee Harvey Oswald going 339 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:03.279 to the steakhouse strip club of the guy who would 340 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.720 later take him out. Well, it's not hard to figure 341 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.000 out if you understand the basics of this narrative. 342 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.119 Now, I don't think we have to know. 343 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:13.480 We don't. 344 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.119 It's just kind of it's like the Big Nine event, 345 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.119 like we don't have to know perfectly every single piece 346 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:23.319 of detailed information and regarding regarding this event. Now this 347 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:27.920 refers to a lesser known thing which I. 348 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:27.640 I don't have. 349 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:33.039 I have Michael Collins P's book have my other location. 350 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:35.319 It's not in this library, so I can't look it up. 351 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:38.119 But he I think you mentioned this. 352 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:40.559 I read that book in two thousand and eight, So 353 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:44.279 we're like seventeen years out for me reading that book, people. 354 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.559 Are like, oh, I've been pioneering the role of Middle 355 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:50.799 Eastern countries in this JFK thing. Oh really, like when 356 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:53.599 I read the book in twenty two thousand and eight, 357 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:01.319 and yeah, look, yes, JFK opposed certain Middle Eastern countries 358 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:02.720 having a nuclear program. 359 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.359 Demona, I've known. 360 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:07.599 About that since two thousand and eight. What are you 361 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:11.759 talking about now? This relates to a network or a 362 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:16.720 group of Cubans in Chicago, one of whom is named 363 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:28.640 that's a weird name, Ekavaria. Echavaria, Echavaria. And this was 364 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:32.480 a investigation memo. This is weird too. 365 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.680 Because this might have already been declassified. Don't know it says. 366 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:39.240 It says declassified seventy six or eight, but it says 367 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:44.720 special Agents Tucker and Noonan investigation of the claims of 368 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:51.319 Echavaria and Ekavaria says that he was attempting to negotiate 369 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:56.759 the sale of weapons to a group and that he 370 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:02.640 made a comment allegedly the day beforeating JFK and the 371 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:09.160 taking out of JFK with a group of backers from 372 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:15.039 say the Middle East that would take care of Kennedy. Now, 373 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.200 this doesn't mean this is a person that in the 374 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:23.720 investigations says this, okay, So it's not like Diehard proof. 375 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.119 It's just one of several of these where people are 376 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:31.680 saying throughout the years of this investigation by the different agencies, 377 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:34.519 and by the way, the FBI, I think has their 378 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:38.519 own files on this. So one correction that should be made, 379 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.880 because this is going around and I looked into this one, 380 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.640 people are saying the nineteen fifty six Hungarian riots were 381 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.559 orchestrated with the support of the CIA. Now it turns 382 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:50.599 out that this is not talking about that. If you look, 383 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:55.119 it actually says the HFFF. But that's a group that's 384 00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:59.720 an NGO created after this event in nineteen sixty three. However, 385 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:02.720 it not outside the realm of possibility. It's very likely 386 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.000 that the CIA did aid the anti Soviets and sought 387 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.200 a regime change coup in nineteen fifty six during the 388 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:09.680 Cold Wars. 389 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:10.960 That certainly makes sense. 390 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:14.480 You can find London Telegraph articles that talk about British 391 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:19.400 intelligence training these people. So it's not I mean, most 392 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:21.960 likely the CIA did as well. But this is really 393 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.720 a minor point. This one is the one I think 394 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.359 most people expected to see and is probably one of 395 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:33.839 the more damning, which is that the CIA does not 396 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.640 have objection to the declassification of these documents except for 397 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:42.559 the mentioning of the bracketed which is quote I Intelligence 398 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.000 Service of. 399 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:44.559 The Middle East. 400 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.680 So here you have the CIA admitting, probably because they 401 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:53.519 don't want to have you know, a damaging I mean, 402 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.359 you could look at it from like a just a 403 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:58.640 basic geopolitical perspective that they don't want to have a 404 00:23:58.759 --> 00:24:02.599 damaging relationship through the release of these documents, and so 405 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.960 that's why that was put there. Or you could say 406 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:09.000 it's more conspiratorial that they're told you've got to do this. 407 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.119 There are, by the way, quite a few people in 408 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.319 the history of the CAA and in the CAA who 409 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.720 have been pretty vocal about not being pro Israel. You 410 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:26.720 can go back even to the Bush era when Bush 411 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:31.960 shifted away from Israeli intelligence and was interested in the 412 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:36.480 Safari Club being an outfit which was Saudi connected and 413 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:39.000 all that. There's a whole story behind that which is 414 00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.440 unique and interesting that not many people know about. And 415 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.039 that doesn't mean that Bush Senior didn't still have connections 416 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:50.160 or uses for Israeli networks or whatever. But it is 417 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:54.920 relevant because there are tons of CIA individuals who do 418 00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:00.319 not particularly care for Israeli intelligence or the Israelis or 419 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.200 are critical of it. And so it's not a unified 420 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.680 thing where everybody in the CIA just does what they're told. 421 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.880 You can look up Michael Schuyer, who was the head 422 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.880 of the bin Laden Unit. I've shared that clip twenty times, 423 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.680 and Schuyer in many interviews says that the main problem 424 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:20.279 in American geopolitics and foreign a policy is Israel. And 425 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.480 he's made that criticism for like two decades, and he 426 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:26.000 was the head of the bin Laden Unit for the CIA. 427 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:31.200 So it's not like everyone in the CIA had this attitude. 428 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.359 In fact, Dulles and others back in the classic era 429 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.680 of the CAA were seemingly a little more on the 430 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.880 side of Tonny mustache Man, and you know, they were 431 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.119 involved in Operation paper Clip this kind of stuff. So 432 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:49.680 there was not a unified mindset even in the CIA. 433 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.079 Maybe over time as the Cold War progressed, then you 434 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:57.000 get people like James Jesus Angleton, who was you know, 435 00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:01.680 very much pro Israel, very much pro Zion. In fact, 436 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:05.319 there's a garden dedicated to him in Israel, and he 437 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:11.640 had a back channel with I Intelligence as well as 438 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.119 some of the documents will show now in regard to JFK, 439 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.480 this one was one of the more interesting documents. I 440 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.119 don't know if this document had already been declassified. It 441 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.759 looks like one of the new ones, because there's a 442 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:29.240 lot of claims flying around. So you know, anything I 443 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:32.519 say that's incorrect, I welcome being corrected. We just had 444 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.759 to mention a correction a last night's dream in regard 445 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:40.200 to that fake Bob Bear interview from many years ago. 446 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:42.319 But this one is. 447 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:46.319 Interesting because it notes this character by the name of Underhill, 448 00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.400 who had been an intelligence agent in the in World 449 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.680 War Two. He was recognized as an authority on limited 450 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.359 warfare and small arms. He was a researcher and a 451 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.720 writer on military affairs. He was on a first name 452 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.240 basis with a lot of the time brass and the Pentagon. 453 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.640 He was also on intimate terms with a number of 454 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.400 high ranking CIA officials. He was the agency's on people 455 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.000 to sort of a ghost operative. He performed special assignments 456 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.000 and at one time had been a friend of Samuel 457 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:22.079 Cummings of inter Ramco the arms broker that numbers amongst 458 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:27.480 its customers the CIA and Klein's Sporting Goods of Chicago, 459 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:33.960 where the mail order Carkano allegedly was purchased by Oswald. 460 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.519 Now remember that this is the Chicago is where this 461 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:42.839 group of supposedly Cubans who are hired to do this 462 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:48.359 event with JFK. That from the previous memo, the Echavario 463 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.759 guy that. 464 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:51.279 Was also out of Chicago. 465 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.039 And the reason that's relevant is because the leader of 466 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:59.680 the mafia in Chicago was sam Giancana Momo, who is 467 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.359 a you know, tied into CIA and Operation Underworld, and 468 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:05.799 i mean Operation under World is older, but the CIA 469 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:11.359 continued the Underworld alliances with organized crime. I've interviewed Sammy 470 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:13.799 the Bull Gravano, the most famous living I mean I've 471 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.480 been on his podcast like ten times. I mean, he 472 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.920 pretty much confirms all that as well in our discussions. 473 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:26.079 And so you've got the reason also that the mafia 474 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:27.960 is a key player in this is that the mafia 475 00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:31.279 what were mad at the Kennedy brothers for many things 476 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.400 that were cracking down on the drugs. The mafia had 477 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.920 helped RFK get elected, and so that was in Chicago 478 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:42.839 for a call. So they helped the vote rigging there by. 479 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:44.200 And this is well known. 480 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.400 Everybody knows this, not even that really really that's controversial anymore. 481 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.359 And then RFKA Junior, when he started cracking down on 482 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:56.240 organized crime, he instead of arresting Carlos Marcelo, who was 483 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:02.000 the New Orleans based gangster that was running the mob 484 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.640 out of New Orleans, he banished him to Guam or 485 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.880 somewhere like they like put him in a plane. They 486 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.480 flew him to Guam and just dropped him off. Well, 487 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:18.400 he made his way back through a shrimp boat apparently, 488 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.119 and when he got back he was like, Okay, we're 489 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.640 gonna take care of these Kennedy boys because we helped 490 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.680 them get elected. They don't want to do what we 491 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.440 are telling him to do. And Carlos Marcelo is famously 492 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:37.039 on tapes. The FBI has recorded tapes, but they're inadmissible 493 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:42.160 because they were recorded illegally. Marcelo bragging that they got Kennedy. 494 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.960 You know, there was we the mafia did this, not 495 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:45.759 just the mafia. 496 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:46.079 They say. 497 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.519 So people are overly simplistic. They think, oh, was it 498 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.839 the mafia or was it the CIA? Well, the CIA 499 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:55.400 has worked with the Mafia since the oss An operation Underworld, 500 00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.039 which we've lectured on that also does tie into Gladio. 501 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.640 So this document mentioned this CIA or this deep state 502 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.920 operative guy who had been talking about this. The day 503 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.799 after the assassination, Gary Underhill left Washington in a hurry. 504 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.720 Late in the evening, he showed up at the home 505 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.160 of friends in New Jersey. He was reagitated. A small 506 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:19.359 clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided. 507 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.960 Guess what, that's exactly what backs up Most of the 508 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.759 theories in regard to this, whether it's Michael Collins, p 509 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.640 whether it's Roger Stone's book, and other books, by the way, 510 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:34.759 have focused on one of the groups, the Mafia, CIA, 511 00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:36.319 other countries. 512 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:38.279 Those are not wrong. 513 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.160 They're just looking at certain angles of the players that 514 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:42.880 were involved in this. 515 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:50.799 So remember the. 516 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:53.960 The mobsters are used because they're convenient ways to organize 517 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:59.240 a hit. I'm not saying necessarily the mobsters themselves directly 518 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.039 did the hit, because, as we mentioned with when we 519 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.759 interviewed Sammy the Bull, Sammy pointed out that the way 520 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:06.799 we would do this is if it was something like 521 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.400 a high profile thing, we wouldn't directly do it, we 522 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.920 would find another kind of person wound up to either 523 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.880 be the patsy or to be the one that would 524 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:18.960 do it and take the heat. 525 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:19.279 Et cetera. 526 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:26.200 So this is a pretty interesting document because it does 527 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:33.559 back up basically the kind of Secret Team analysis that. 528 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:36.240 You get in Fletcher Proudy. 529 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.039 Right, So Fletcher Prouty in his book Secret Team says, 530 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.960 I was in this. We're part of a you know, 531 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.200 a breakaway click basically the CIA that runs around the world, 532 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.240 and we do assassinations, sabotage, coups, fake news, regime change. 533 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.119 You name it. It's what we do. 534 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:58.599 And you know, you could take issue with some of 535 00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.720 its claims maybe maybe, But I mean the book is 536 00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.279 pretty well known, it's pretty famous, and why would why 537 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.160 would anything this be surprising? By the way, It's like, 538 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.559 after all the things that we've learned in the last 539 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.799 five years, like all this another should be surprising. So 540 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:20.440 this one I think was really interesting. This memorandum about 541 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.079 this guy who was part of the Pentagon and was 542 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.160 a sort of a ghost operator, probably some kind of 543 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:29.480 a he sounds like Fletcher Proudy's Secret Team kind of guy. 544 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.400 And he says, yeah, this was an organized crime and 545 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.880 the CIA, a faction of the CIA doing this. Now 546 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.920 here's a little more of this. It says the friends 547 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.839 whom Underwill Underhill visited say he was a sober person, 548 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.279 but he was badly shook. They say he attributed to 549 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.279 the Kennedy murder to a CIA click that was carrying 550 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:55.359 on a lucrative racket in gun running, narcotics and other contraband. 551 00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.759 He was manipulating and they were manipulating political intan figures 552 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.519 to serve their own ends. Kennedy supposedly got wind as 553 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.960 something was going on and was killed before he could 554 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.599 blow the whistle. Although the friends had already known Underhill 555 00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.359 to be perfectly rational objective, they at first didn't take 556 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:19.720 him seriously. We couldn't believe that the CIA could contain 557 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.519 a corrupt element every bit as ruthless and more efficient 558 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:29.759 than the mafia. Really, So that one is, I think 559 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:34.079 pretty good. This one is a little less clear. RT 560 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:38.720 found this or mentions this. It's just says it says 561 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.680 secret bases and it's a list of like but we 562 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.000 don't know exactly what that means. Is this like CIA stations? 563 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.160 Is this torture facilities? Is this a black site? Is 564 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.559 this a safe house, you know, but probably not relevant 565 00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.000 anymore since it's going back to like the Cold War. 566 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.200 Here's another one that says the CIA was wanting to 567 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.119 keep the Warren Commission out of the public domain, and 568 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.279 they had every reason. 569 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.400 To do that. Now, why would the CIA have. 570 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.559 Every reason to not want people to know what the 571 00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.760 Warren Commission was finding? That, to me speaks to a 572 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:20.079 cover up. Here's one that is another Catholic in g 573 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.440 O organization. And to the Catholics who been mad and 574 00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.440 fussing and bitching at me, this isn't a string of 575 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.320 documents that I've been covering. This is not a sole 576 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.599 isolated document because when I posted this somebody said. 577 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.960 Oh, they had one operative in a ng so what now? 578 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.320 This is one operative in in Go amongst many operatives 579 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.079 throughout the Roman Catholic Church. But this was an outfit 580 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:52.719 called Catholics Catholic Association for International Peace. And the document 581 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:56.159 notes in section three that the above items were received 582 00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:01.440 by Oliver Corbiston, who has joined CIA app CIP for 583 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:06.440 cover cover purposes. And so he's a CIA operative who 584 00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.480 joined this outfit as a cover That's just one example 585 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:17.320 among many. This one is uh several documents that another 586 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:22.119 profile found and this is an Operation Mongoose. And the 587 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.760 only reason I re shared this one is because in 588 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.920 the stream that we did what two nights ago on 589 00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.599 certain Middle Eastern countries and their intelligence, I did a 590 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:32.480 three hour talk. 591 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.760 You don't ever talk about the countries in your Middle East? 592 00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:37.639 Oh really, I did a three hour talking it. 593 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:41.239 You don't know. Oh really, I covered Victor Strowski's masade. 594 00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:41.679 But oh. 595 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:48.039 Well, this relates to it because this is Operation Mongoose. 596 00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:52.440 And he says, this shows a CIA playbook on how 597 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.639 they conduct regime change. Now this is correct because this 598 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.440 is basically the same sort of pattern or model. It's 599 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:03.320 a technology, color revolutions, it's all the same type of stuff. 600 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:05.719 These files highlight. 601 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:10.639 How CIA used psyops, media, espionage economics to target the 602 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.960 Cuban politicians, use covered actions. The documents even mentioned black 603 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:22.119 market activities Dulah exactly like Gladio. They used Time magazine 604 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.800 as an implement of dissemination. Why would they use Time magazine, Well, 605 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.480 that's because Henry Lewis of Time magazine was skull and 606 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.519 bones and worked closely with the OSS and the CIA. 607 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.280 And that's a gigantic section of David Wimhaw's book, which 608 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.199 we have already been talking about. 609 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.320 The CIA has been. 610 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.880 Controvertibly engaged in regime change for decades. Well, yeah, who 611 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.800 doesn't know this? They use a similar playbook. That's I 612 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:53.039 think an interesting point that it's a similar playbook. What 613 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:54.880 evidence is there that the sai I ever stopped Well, 614 00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.840 of course they didn't. We've been talking about color revolutions 615 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:04.000 for years. We already mentioned Fom Mengdol in all these 616 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:10.000 other texts. This is extremely pertinent to the war in Ukraine. 617 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.360 You have Victoria Newland, you have Operation Mongoose, with many parallels. 618 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:17.719 So you can go read this. I'm not going to 619 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.559 read all these documents there because that one's kind of 620 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.800 people already knew about Operation Mongoose. But it's an interesting 621 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:29.800 side point. Another document is mentioned here, which is that 622 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:35.559 it looks like Arthur Schlessinger, who was one of Kennedy's 623 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:40.719 close advisors. He warns Kennedy about the CIA being too powerful, 624 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.320 too reckless, and having a government within a government. 625 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.440 Hmm, what does that sound like? 626 00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.679 Have we ever heard the idea of a state within 627 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.280 a state, like a shadow government or a deep state? 628 00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.000 But this is actually mentioned. 629 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:08.440 By slashing her the advisor to Kennedy in National Archive 630 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.360 file one seven six dash one zero zero three zero 631 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.960 dash one zero four two two. So there's that document 632 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.280 and another interesting one which we all already kind of 633 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.039 knew about, but maybe a bunch of normies didn't. 634 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:22.199 Know about this. 635 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.280 It's another CIA file dealing with nineteen sixty three document 636 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.639 internal review of the agency's drug recruitment efforts, noting a 637 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:37.079 significant lack of significant results. The document stresses that the 638 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.239 program shortcomings were due to inefficient handling of delayed responses 639 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:43.599 in Cuba, where candidates were initially eager but lost motivation. 640 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:59.400 It says drug dips. So I'm guessing that means drug recruiting. 641 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.280 I mean, I don't follow Mario in the Fall, so 642 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.199 I don't know what he's talking about, but it sounds like 643 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.760 recruiting people involved in organized crime. Again, not a shocker 644 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.519 if you know about uh, you know, Operation Underworld. 645 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:15.880 In view. 646 00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.920 In I can't read that. It's too blurry, but it 647 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.239 just mentions drug dips. 648 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:25.119 I don't know what that is. 649 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:46.119 Connect This one is the most probably interesting of these. 650 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:47.800 I have. 651 00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.800 I don't think I've seen anybody say these were previously released. 652 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:52.960 But this is of course one of the key connections 653 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.840 that was written about and theorized about by this you know, 654 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:03.239 the hardcore JFK conspiracy nerds, and this was the connections 655 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:07.079 and the back channels that James Jesus Angleton had with 656 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.519 certain foreign countries. And you'll notice that the memo mentions. 657 00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:12.719 Here, let's see what it says. 658 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.079 As you're aware Angleton, the CAA frequently turns over to 659 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:20.800 the Bureau highly confidential basis information which has been developed 660 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.480 through operations head about Angleton. In many instances, the information 661 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:28.360 is given to the Bureau without clearly going through the 662 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.920 regular CAIA channels. In almost all instances, it is given 663 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.199 to us with a clear understanding that if including a 664 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.480 report or other communication prepared for dissemination outside the Bureau. 665 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.039 I'm guessing this is an FBI document that the CIA has. 666 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:47.280 It says it can be traced back either to Angleton 667 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.639 or the CIA. In such instances where the information is 668 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:55.480 relates to Middle Eastern country, it has been the practice 669 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.679 of Middle Eastern country. And then the next document says, 670 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:05.480 in fifty four a procedure was approved whereby we could 671 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:09.920 attribute certain information receive from James Jesus Angleton CIA under 672 00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.119 the symbol of Bureau in Format one hundred. This information, 673 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.840 for the most part, emanated from a liaison agreement which 674 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:23.639 the CIA maintained with Middle Eastern Intelligence and from other 675 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.920 sources under the control of Angleton. Much of the information 676 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.159 was developed by him and was not disseminated within the CIA. 677 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.800 He felt that the data should be passed to the Bureau. 678 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.440 Dulls gave him the authorization to handle the dissemination in 679 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.760 this way. We continue to receive information of. 680 00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.039 This nature. 681 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:48.079 Of value on a regular basis, so there's a back channel. 682 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:55.280 Then it goes on to say, as you know that 683 00:41:56.679 --> 00:42:05.039 continued individual captioned captioned individual is providing the Bureau with 684 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.320 considerable information, much of it of a very sensitive nature. 685 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.480 It has been noted that in transmitting communications to Angleton, 686 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.920 some memoranda have been sent to the Director of the 687 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.440 CIA Angleton in care of E. F. 688 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:21.840 Hall. 689 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:29.320 Other memoranda dealing with Middle Eastern Eye intelligence matters have 690 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.800 been directed to Engleton. And then it goes on to 691 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.760 say Engleton states that the above request was being made 692 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:46.400 with the approval of Dulles, Director of CIA. He further 693 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.760 indicates that he desired the above method designation in connecting 694 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.400 with correspondence dealing with Middle Eastern intelligence with regard to 695 00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:06.039 the Bureau report. So again just another statement of back channel. 696 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:18.840 And then this one says Angleton handles special cases. He 697 00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:24.320 has considerable freeway, a freedom in leeway. He is directing 698 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.920 the operations of his unit. In general, he is responsible 699 00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:32.960 to the CIA numerous foreign sources and channels for developing info. 700 00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:42.840 The primary source is Israeli intelligence primary source. So Angleton 701 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:48.400 is essentially backchannel attached at the hip to Middle Eastern countries. 702 00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:52.199 Interesting which I think everyone already sort of knew. 703 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.760 But here we have full on. 704 00:43:54.800 --> 00:44:00.280 Documentation which it looks like these are FBI files, which 705 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.039 is interesting too. Have people digging and finding other more 706 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.960 interesting things. This has only been twenty four hours, maybe 707 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.119 even less than twenty four hours according to Lord Voldemort. 708 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.039 There's another one third of the documents that have not 709 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:17.039 yet been declassified, so we might actually see, you know, 710 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:23.599 more stuff dropping that's even more wild or interesting. But again, 711 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.920 it looks like it confirms pretty much what most of 712 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.320 the researchers assumed. 713 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:29.079 Or thought was going on. 714 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:35.079 Who had, you know, kind of hardcore integrative takes that 715 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:44.960 integrated mafia CIA and they're foreign countries. We want to 716 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.079 open it up. I have a few super chats over here, 717 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.360 and then anybody wants to come in and comment, bring 718 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:53.159 your analysis. Let's keep it YouTube friendly because we were 719 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:57.840 on YouTube here. We got some super chats from Chester Cheese. 720 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.880 He says, no, he did that yesterday. Excuse me. Orthodox 721 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.519 member grammar their twenty dollars. 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Are you speaking of 753 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.800 Shizz the Mormon who had his head cut off and 754 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:41.800 he raised up and gasped for breath when he was 755 00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:45.159 had his head cut off by coriantomer or are you 756 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.760 speaking of Messiah Ben Sasquatch, the other Mormon. 757 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.039 Messiah or the actual member grandmother. 758 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.199 I we read that the alder Bana two dollars, what 759 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:59.760 stops the classification for being a siout. Actually, there's not really. 760 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.239 I don't think that you could even rule that out. 761 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.719 I mean, I'm sure there have been many fake false leaks. 762 00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:12.880 But also when you have declassification or something like this 763 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.239 for your requests, when they back up, you know, the 764 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:21.239 theories that are critical of the establishment, then it's probably believable. 765 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.760 But no, there's nothing that you know, you could Yeah, 766 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.400 you could conceivably have a fake leak or what's called 767 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.400 a limited hangout, And usually a limited hangout is not 768 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.599 totally fake information. For it to be effective, it has 769 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.840 some true information and then it'll mix in a bunch 770 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.519 of disinfo. But I mean, the idea of a Middle 771 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.639 Eastern country being connected to this that was so controversial 772 00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:51.599 for so long. I don't find there's nothing, by the way, 773 00:47:51.960 --> 00:48:00.519 in the documents that disproves any of the major conspiracy elements. Rather, 774 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.440 there is information that appears to be new as far 775 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.519 as i'm ware, But I'm not a JFK expert. This 776 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:11.239 has not been my I have not spent twenty years 777 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:14.559 on this, So I read a handful of books on it, right, 778 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:21.440 Jim Mahers, Mark Lane, Michael Collins, Piper some other less 779 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:25.880 credible conspiracy texts on it, and I just kind of like, Okay, yeah, 780 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:27.800 this is obviously, like you know. And then I've read 781 00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:29.360 a lot of stuff on the history of organized crime 782 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:30.079 in the CIA. 783 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.360 So it's like, yeah, to me, it's kind of obvious. 784 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.480 So I didn't spend you know, years in the GfK 785 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.159 rabbit hole because obviously it's kind of like the Big 786 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.159 Nine events, Like, Okay, I don't believe the official story, 787 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:45.840 so what more do I need? 788 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:47.079 So we're going to open it up now. 789 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.360 People want to come on, ask questions, if you would 790 00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.440 like to debate the topic, if you got any Roman, 791 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.440 if we have any Roman Catholics want to discuss the 792 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.320 geopolitical angle of the papacy and Catholicism coming up in 793 00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.639 some of the documents, feel free to request to come 794 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.119 on and I'll let you make whatever arguments you want. 795 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:08.480 VESI Vlad Jay, what do you think the reasons are 796 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.039 behind the documents being released? It seems to implicate America's 797 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.719 greatest allies and yet our air strikes have returned. 798 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:19.320 I don't know. There could be a lot of different motivations. 799 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:20.280 I mean, oh, there was a. 800 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:24.320 Clip of Pompeo saying that he didn't want them released, 801 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.599 so I don't think he would say that he basically, 802 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:36.199 basically he was the one that was blocking the release. 803 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.800 So what does that tell you? 804 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:40.760 Luca? What's up? 805 00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:41.039 Man? 806 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:59.119 My name is Luca, isn't that? Uh? What's her name? 807 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:01.320 That that? 808 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:11.400 I forget that one's name? Gotta I'm mute, man, you can. 809 00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:11.679 You hear me? 810 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.679 Huh? 811 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:15.119 I don't. 812 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.719 I don't expect to be brought to be honest, but 813 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.239 I just want to ask a few things that like, 814 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.639 the Orthodox Church isn't infiltrated at all by like the 815 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:26.119 KGB and stuff. 816 00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.360 Or what in the past did you were not here? 817 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.559 I covered this, I literally covered this like the first 818 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:33.519 thirty minutes. 819 00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:35.960 Oh okay, I wasn't here, so my bad. 820 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:38.320 Yeah. 821 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.719 So no, As I said, I've interviewed subject matter experts 822 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.360 on the relationship of the KGV and the n k 823 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:48.360 v D to the Orthodox Church in Russia and other 824 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:52.960 Orthodox churches as well. I've talked about the CIA's infiltration 825 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:57.000 also of the Orthodox Church. Uh, there are Orthodox writers 826 00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.519 who write on this subject. You can go to Orthodox 827 00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.960 England and read essays that have been there for fifteen 828 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.400 years on the Internet discussing the position of ro Corps 829 00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:11.280 between the KGB and the CIA and the difficulties that 830 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.199 ensued from that. You can look at the history of 831 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.039 ro Corp itself being invited in many cases to the 832 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.880 West because you had a lot of white Russians fleeing 833 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.320 Bolshevik and Soviet persecution. So idiot Roman Catholics act like 834 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.280 ro Corps is KGB, which to me just shows how 835 00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.719 stupid they are, because the very entity itself is fleeing 836 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.559 from Soviet persecution, bullshit persecution. 837 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.360 It's just stupid at the and ignorance. People have no 838 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:37.119 clue what they're. 839 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.400 Talking about, and they just spit this crap out on 840 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.400 Twitter all day long, just showing their idiocy. So it's 841 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.599 way more complex than that. And in fact, even in 842 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.599 the structure of the KGB in Russia they had tiers 843 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.400 of compromisability. Did you know that it wasn't a total 844 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.639 KGB church. There were tiers that the KGB had about Okay, 845 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:02.840 this bishop is totally comp this bishop is flexible. This 846 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.599 bishop is not compromisable. Okay, so this idea that it's 847 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:10.920 all black or white is just totally stupid. I interviewed 848 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.199 Metropolitan jonah on that, who is a subject matter expert 849 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.119 on the history of the Russian Church, and I interviewed 850 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.559 Jim jottrass on that talking about this subversion of the 851 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:24.840 ecumenical patriarch. So like this, this idiot client, you. 852 00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.000 Only talk about the CIA the church. 853 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.519 No, I don't talk about the CNAP all the time too. 854 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:38.039 Hang your head, Hey, just a quick question. I haven't 855 00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:39.800 got to read any of these stuff yet. 856 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:45.599 Obviously interested for this particular nation that's involved that we've 857 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.519 found that's come out that's making all the press. 858 00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:50.679 You just talked about, what does it have? You got 859 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.079 to read it and do you know does it mention 860 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.400 in what way specifically they're involved? 861 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.760 And then, uh, because I'm kind of new to this stuff, 862 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:00.599 and I was curious. 863 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.159 I mean again, where I'm not being rude, like we're 864 00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.039 you're not here for the last hour where we talked 865 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.159 about it. So we went through every angle of James 866 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.639 Jus Angleton there that's in the documents. 867 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:10.719 We went through. 868 00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.840 The Echavaccio or Evacascio, whatever his name is, the Cuban 869 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:18.320 guy and his claim, and so again it's just sort 870 00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:22.239 of backs up what Michael Collins, Piper and Roger Stone 871 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.760 had theorized. A confluence of elements. So the CIA was 872 00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:31.159 not happy with certain things that Kennedy had said about 873 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.280 breaking into a million pieces. Certain Middle Eastern countries were 874 00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.800 not happy about Demona nuclear program, et cetera. And again, 875 00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:43.239 Piper wrote his book in two thousand and five. I 876 00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.159 read it in two thousand and eight. So the people 877 00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:47.079 on the internet saying that. 878 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:50.800 I'm the first person to talk about this, you know 879 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:51.280 where you're not? 880 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.320 What are you talking about? It's been in his books. 881 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.599 That's a giant book too. It's like seven or pages 882 00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:02.119 from two thousand and five is and he's from The Spotlight, 883 00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.760 which was one of the first entities to expose Bilderberg group. Okay, 884 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:10.000 Jim Tucker, Jim Tucker used to go to Bilderberg for years. 885 00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.639 He's in the old documentaries at Lord Baldemort, at Bilderberg. 886 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:18.599 I used to read The Spotlight, so I know about this. 887 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.840 I read I read the book seventeen fricking years ago. 888 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:25.719 Artie Lucas, what's up. 889 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.599 Hey, Jay, Good to see you. 890 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.119 I know you have studied espionage for a long time, 891 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:36.960 and my question. 892 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:38.440 Is about double agents. 893 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:42.320 Seeing the current developments in Ukraine, which you agree that 894 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:46.519 there's a lot of Russian infiltration in Samaga Make America 895 00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.679 Great Again camp and seeing this weird the foreign policy 896 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:55.639 of Trump's administration, I can only see Israel's and Russian's 897 00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:01.000 foreign influence, and it's interesting how it's completely one to 898 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:06.239 eighty degree is shift from Biden's administration policies. It's interesting 899 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.199 to me how deep state, if it exists, how did 900 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:11.760 it allow this. 901 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.239 Deep state? Deep state? If it exists, do you understand? 902 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.239 The New York Times wrote an article about how glad 903 00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:20.920 they are that the deep state does exist. What do 904 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:22.239 you mean does if it exists? 905 00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.880 Well, if it exists, then why do they allow all 906 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.119 these crazy things happening, the deconstruction of dead men? 907 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:32.920 If it exists, didn't you just say that Israel supported 908 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.400 what you're talking about, Well. 909 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:37.480 That's what I mean exactly. 910 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.760 If there's deep state, let's say, administrative state state of 911 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:41.480 the United. 912 00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:45.159 States, do they work with Israelis and Russians in a 913 00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.800 way that as you said, it's not black and white, 914 00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.760 it's double agents, it's foreign influence. And the question that 915 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.079 I'm getting at is this one eighty degree shift that's 916 00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:03.400 obvious to everyone in foreign policy. How could deepstate allow 917 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.480 this craziness to happen? 918 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:11.480 Like was that planned before Trump? Is Trump even the player? 919 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:13.360 What's happening there? 920 00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.320 I don't believe that. I mean, yes, there are double agents, 921 00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.360 but I don't think that this is some massive sixty 922 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:24.159 six dimensional chess game where everybody's a bunch of double agents. 923 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:28.519 And no, actually, Russia is running everything and Trump is 924 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:33.079 working for Russia. For one, the Steele dossier, the p 925 00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:38.079 Gate memo, all of that was fictional material from British intelligence, 926 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.920 just made up. So if there is proof of this, 927 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.920 where is it. Where's the proof that Donald Trump is 928 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.119 in bed with the Russians? I mean, we've heard this 929 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.960 from the establishment for the last ten years almost and there's. 930 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.920 Zero proof of that. Now. 931 00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:04.440 Trump is very pro Middle Eastern country, but that to 932 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.800 me seems to be the main vector of criticism. I 933 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:12.360 don't see this Russian stuff that Russia's running all this. 934 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:18.480 And another reason why there's a flip on this is 935 00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:22.760 that the Ukraine war is terribly unpopular. Nobody in America 936 00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.719 wants that. And by the way, are you saying that 937 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.960 the Biden family in its regime was not engaging in 938 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.679 a giant money laundering operation with Hunter and Barisma and 939 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:32.000 all that. 940 00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:33.480 So that's all fake too, Like. 941 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:40.239 The narrative of the establishment is so preposterous that we 942 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.480 know it's not true. And to say if there's a 943 00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.360 deep state, if there's a deep state, well there can 944 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.719 be a deep state, as the documents admit, and they're 945 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.280 not all powerful, like just because there's a deep state, 946 00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:56.079 all they run everything, They're behind every single every event, 947 00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:06.239 everything that happens is a deep state, Mimi. I mean 948 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:10.079 Victoria Nelan has said what the plan was, like not 949 00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:14.920 even controversial. She says, yeah, there's bioweapons around Ukraine. Yeah 950 00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.880 we did this, Yeah we did that, Yeah, color revolution. 951 00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:17.599 What do you mean? 952 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:22.440 That doesn't mean that Russia doesn't have intelligence capabilities or 953 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.840 that they don't engage in Every nation engages in all 954 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:31.159 these same activities, right, But who I really believes that 955 00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.440 Russia is telling America what to do? Okay, we all 956 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:40.519 know that America does what the Middle Eastern countries like. 957 00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.400 Okay, yeah, I'm man, what's up? 958 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:52.679 Okay? Hey, hi Jay, what's up? Hey? Thank you for 959 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.440 letting me speak in your space. I just want to 960 00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:59.679 talk about Moscow. Moscow if you look up. 961 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.760 To statistics of strollers and. 962 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:05.199 Car seats and so the most what. 963 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.480 If you take a road trip into Moscow beautiful, that's 964 00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:12.199 where Putin is. 965 00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.760 At strollers and car seats. What are you talking about? 966 00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:15.039 Right? 967 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:16.400 I don't understand what you're talking about. 968 00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:19.280 What I'm saying is is family bound? 969 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.360 What's family down Moscow? 970 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.360 Like no abortions like Putin, don't believe in like pride 971 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:29.480 and all that type of stuff. 972 00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:41.599 Mike, what's up? Unmute Mike, Hey. 973 00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:42.199 J can hear me? 974 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:42.599 Yep? 975 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:44.000 Hey? 976 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.559 My question is I had two questions. That first question 977 00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:50.000 is do you think it's conspicuous that these files were 978 00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.920 released just as as it's starting to heat up with 979 00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:56.440 the Gaza strikes again where the ceasefire was broken, then 980 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.199 all of a sudden, these documents. 981 00:59:57.719 --> 00:59:59.239 That implicate Israel were released. 982 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.400 My second question is, I know James forrestall that people 983 01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:03.840 aren't aware. 984 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.000 I'm sure you're aware was forced. 985 01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.199 Into a mental hospital in the late nineteen forties or 986 01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:09.320 early nineteen fifties. 987 01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:12.760 He was against Israel for various different reasons. 988 01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.320 He was allegedly thrown out of a building in a 989 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:20.119 mental hospital. His son actually worked I forget which position, 990 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.519 but it was in the. 991 01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:25.599 Executive Oh this is the navy guy, right, Yes, he 992 01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.719 comes up. He comes up in the Gladio literature too, 993 01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.280 because he were okay, wow, yeah, because he was part 994 01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:35.719 of the because he knew he was involved. I'm not 995 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:37.840 saying he's a bad person, but he was involved in 996 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.480 navy planning in regard to uh was it Operation Husky, 997 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:46.760 which was I think the invasion of allan invasion of Sicily, 998 01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.920 And he at some level was involved in Gladio. 999 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:54.639 But go ahead, I guess. Oh yeah, that was my 1000 01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.000 first first question. And then follow up on my second question. 1001 01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.480 Do you think because James Forrest, James Forrestall was against 1002 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:04.039 Israeli influence in the United States and then his son 1003 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.840 ended up working for JFK. Junior, is that enough on 1004 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.920 the surface to at least speculate heavily towards Israel or 1005 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:12.400 do you think there has to be more there? 1006 01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:17.159 Let me pull up the page here in the Gladia 1007 01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.760 book from Williams on Forrestall and see what he says, because. 1008 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.480 I remember when I first read that, and I was 1009 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.360 like almost kind of shy. I was like, wow, his 1010 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.679 son worked for JFK. Like that's that, don't that's just 1011 01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:31.880 that seems too that that just just seems too. 1012 01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:33.239 Uh to aby with. 1013 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.079 But well, I mean, you know, I don't know. I 1014 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.719 mean there could be multiple uh you know, motives for 1015 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:47.400 these kinds of things, but I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, 1016 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.239 you know, people don't know that the mafia was organized 1017 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:57.320 by Middle Eastern country. So the structure of the mafia 1018 01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:04.840 is luck k Luciano structured it the way mayer Lanski 1019 01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:09.840 and others helped him structure it. I think that's right 1020 01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:11.320 going from memory here. 1021 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:13.559 So it's not just. 1022 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:21.760 Italian organized crime. Italian organized crime was structured via Middle 1023 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:22.880 Eastern organized crime. 1024 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:38.719 Mall, mall, do. 1025 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.000 You want to talk? 1026 01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.599 You have to turn your it's not letting you come 1027 01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:51.039 on here, so you have to turn your speaker on. 1028 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:51.480 Eric. 1029 01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.360 Now, on top of this, it's interesting that not many noways. 1030 01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:04.960 My first thought was, it's interesting that CIA headquarters is 1031 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:08.960 right now or was a few minutes ago under a 1032 01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:15.960 shut down due to a open pop pop. So listen 1033 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:16.239 to this. 1034 01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:18.639 We don't have a lot of details. We're showing a 1035 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:24.239 live shot of the headquarters of Central Intelligence in Langley, Virginia. 1036 01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:26.559 That's in northern Virginia. It looks like a police presence. 1037 01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:29.239 Is some barricade up. I want to put that in 1038 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.400 the box and as we know more here at Real 1039 01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.639 America's Voice war Room, we will update you. But something 1040 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:37.760 quite odd. 1041 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:41.000 That to me is interesting. 1042 01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:44.719 So the day after the release, there's an open pop 1043 01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:48.880 pop at the CIA headquarters in Virginia. 1044 01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.079 What's up, Eric? That could be a distraction. 1045 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:53.519 What's going on? 1046 01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:53.760 Man? 1047 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:54.239 Can you hear me? 1048 01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:55.000 Uh huh? 1049 01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:58.000 Nice dude, Hey, love. 1050 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.559 Your stuff, big fan, you're You're kind of one of 1051 01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:01.039 the main. 1052 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:05.400 Reasons I've started attending Orthodox Eastern Orthodox Church here in Franklin. 1053 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:06.480 So thank you for all you do. 1054 01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:08.880 I've been listening a lot to all your theology videos, 1055 01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:09.400 et cetera. 1056 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:10.840 All your stuff is great. 1057 01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:16.559 Also lovely working with Sam Hyde recently found out came 1058 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.000 up in conversation with some Orthodox friends of mine last 1059 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:21.280 night about Tesla. 1060 01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:23.639 Do you know much about. 1061 01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.159 How him being raised you know Eastern Orthodox as his 1062 01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.880 father being a priest. Do you know do you have 1063 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.960 any thoughts on like how Orthodox theology and sort of 1064 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.800 some of his ideas about light and energy are related, 1065 01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:38.519 or do you have any. 1066 01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:39.440 Well, I wouldn't be surprised. 1067 01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:42.840 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the Orthodox doctrine of 1068 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:48.800 energies maybe tangentially affected him in his worldview. But my 1069 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:54.559 understanding is that as Tesla got older, he got into theosophy. 1070 01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:57.480 So I don't think he stayed with Orthodox theology. I 1071 01:04:57.480 --> 01:04:59.880 think he got into sort of you know, goofy, weird 1072 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:04.079 philosophical stuff. It doesn't mean that his discoveries weren't true, 1073 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:07.440 It's just that from a religious perspective, it probably was 1074 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.039 an influence and then it seems to have kind of 1075 01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:11.599 gone off into kooky stuff. 1076 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.800 Have you done any videos about this or any studies. 1077 01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.039 I mean, I think I wrote an essay about this 1078 01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:22.599 maybe fifteen years ago, but I haven't really thought about 1079 01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:25.239 it or revisited it in many years. 1080 01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:27.960 Can I ask you one more question? Sure? 1081 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.559 So, you know, just with being new to the Orthodox 1082 01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.400 Church kind of being raised Protestant, was Agnostic. 1083 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:36.639 For a while and then coming back around to. 1084 01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.239 Church and God through aesthetics and music and things like that, 1085 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:42.960 you know, went to school for music, so kind of 1086 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.559 coming back around to God and believing in Jesus through 1087 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:51.039 a different way, you know, esthetically and whatnot, but you know, 1088 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.440 still still have somewhat of a Protestant mind, just being 1089 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.199 raised that way. And so I've been getting into conversations. 1090 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:56.639 With my mom. 1091 01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:58.320 I don't know, I've heard. 1092 01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:00.760 You say stuff like, you know, you don't want to debate. 1093 01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.239 Your parents, just love on them. 1094 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:06.519 So we've been having conversations, nice conversations that haven't turned 1095 01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.840 into arguments, but just sort of trying to point her 1096 01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:12.159 in different directions to kind of look into the history 1097 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.159 of the canon and things like that. So I was 1098 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:18.440 just wondering if do you have a good resource. I 1099 01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:21.599 know you mentioned that Lee McDonald book, but do you 1100 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.000 have like what's like a good resource for her to 1101 01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:32.800 kind of look into that isn't so like I guess 1102 01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:35.559 is a little bit more boomer friendly. Some of your 1103 01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:38.920 videos are a little a little intense I find. 1104 01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.039 Funny, but like, I mean, the problem she would take it. 1105 01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:43.199 The best way, but like she she's in she's open. 1106 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.079 Minded enough to where you will yeah, sorry, no, it's okay. 1107 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:49.079 I mean the problem is that the canon is a 1108 01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:52.559 kind of a difficult topic, and I don't know that 1109 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:57.719 there's one easy book on it. Maybe a little easier 1110 01:06:57.760 --> 01:06:59.840 than Lee McDonald's book is F. F. 1111 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:01.760 Bruce's book Cannon Scripture. 1112 01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:05.000 Because he's an evangelical scholar and it's a little less 1113 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.079 technical than Lee McDonald's book. So maybe try to give 1114 01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.639 her something like F. F. Bruce's Ken of Scripture book 1115 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.320 and then say, hey, you'll notice, you know, he mentioned 1116 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.159 tradition and the role of tradition in the canon, you know, 1117 01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:22.480 throughout that book, so you know, how how is a 1118 01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:28.760 Protestant can you remain Protestant soci scripture without that key 1119 01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.559 role tradition. Also, there's a book by Yarslav of Pelicon 1120 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:36.119 that's pretty good Whose Bible, Which tradition? I think it's 1121 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:38.119 called That one's pretty good too. Maybe that one's a 1122 01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:42.760 little easier even for Boomers than Bruce's book, and he's 1123 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:44.880 just kind of dealing with the history of the different 1124 01:07:45.360 --> 01:08:01.199 canonical traditions. Oh my gosh, Ben mystic. There was a video, 1125 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:09.360 uh where Pompeo was talking about why he blocked the 1126 01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.599 release or it was related to here. It is Liz 1127 01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.720 Churchill on at West Point. You Will Not Lie to 1128 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:21.279 your steal and tolerate those who do. I wasn't a 1129 01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:21.960 sedge director. 1130 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:22.479 We lied. 1131 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:23.800 We didn't see at all. 1132 01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:27.560 It's like we we had we had an entire we 1133 01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:28.720 had entire trading course. 1134 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:33.399 Uh, they're all cheering and. 1135 01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:38.159 We're the best of lines, jet and stealing dog. 1136 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:40.960 Maul. 1137 01:08:41.159 --> 01:09:06.119 What's up man? You'll try against. 1138 01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:57.199 I'm so sorry, I've just changed. 1139 01:08:57.239 --> 01:08:59.279 And I don't know if you've covered this question before, 1140 01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:00.680 but about the files? 1141 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.920 Do you where about the files? The JK? 1142 01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:04.960 Yeah, yeah, sorry. 1143 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.520 Do you do you have any sort of idea as 1144 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.239 to why the CIA requested Israel's redaction from the files? 1145 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:18.159 Well, we said earlier that most likely that they might 1146 01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:22.600 consider that damaging the special relationship between the two countries 1147 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.920 at a basic level, and then at a more conspiratorial level, 1148 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:31.560 it might lead to you know, retaliation and some sort 1149 01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:36.399 of you know, maybe compromising information comes out on somebody 1150 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:40.720 leaking the you know, opening up the files. 1151 01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:41.960 Right, yeah, yeah? 1152 01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:46.520 And why so why with that request do you think 1153 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:51.479 they released it? I don't know, totally up in the air. 1154 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:53.600 Well, it's totally up in the air. 1155 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:55.800 But it's like, you know, I think, you know, people 1156 01:09:55.840 --> 01:10:01.760 think of Trump as completely devoted to the Middle Eastern 1157 01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.800 country's cause, and he does often seem to be, but 1158 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:08.279 every now and then he'll also seem to not be 1159 01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:10.720 as devoted, which I don't know the explanation for that, 1160 01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:17.399 For example, sharing the Jeffrey Sachs stuff critical of these actions. 1161 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:21.880 Why this is let loose now, I mean they could 1162 01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:23.680 have just they could have let it loose and just 1163 01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.760 like deleted all these documents too. So that's like, I 1164 01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:31.000 don't understand like people think that, you know, just because 1165 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:33.279 it's released, like it couldn't be tampered with. I mean, 1166 01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:35.119 they could have not had any these documents in there 1167 01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:36.079 at all, which. 1168 01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:39.039 I don't know. 1169 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:43.119 I don't know what the motivations are, but yeah, I 1170 01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:44.880 mean a lot of things have been happening, you know, 1171 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.479 to take the Daily Wire as an example, right, So, 1172 01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:52.199 like so Ben Shapiro doubles down, doesn't allow any criticism 1173 01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:55.760 of the Middle Eastern countries actions and positions the last 1174 01:10:55.800 --> 01:11:00.279 couple of years, Daily Wire doubles down on that doesn't 1175 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.760 really allow that there that kind of just begins the 1176 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:08.600 descent of Daily Wire into irrelevance. Daily Wire tries to 1177 01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:13.199 recoup by bringing on all these clowns and degenerates like 1178 01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.720 Destiny and Nalla and all these weirdos, and so that 1179 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:20.800 seems to be just sort of spiraling away. And it's 1180 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.399 like people don't They're not reading the room, is what 1181 01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:28.600 I'm saying. Like this is all over Twitter, all over 1182 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:34.960 the Internet. People are not being boomer towards anymore. Yeah, 1183 01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.600 that's so they're not reading the room at least entities 1184 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:42.119 that keep trying to push like, you know, the mindset 1185 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:44.840 of neo conservatism like ten years ago. This is not 1186 01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.039 twenty sixteen Internet, man, this is We're out of boomerdom 1187 01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:52.239 and boomer evangelicals and the Christian dispensation is nonsense. I mean, 1188 01:11:52.880 --> 01:12:00.199 look at this dude today. What's his name? This freak 1189 01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:04.760 misfit Patriot. And I'm not trying to be mean here, 1190 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:09.560 because you know, I'm sure every man has dirty thoughts 1191 01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:13.479 or temptations to dirty thoughts, because guys have that. However, 1192 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:17.840 mine involve women, they don't involve dudes, and they don't 1193 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:25.680 involve anything entering the exit only from behind. And people 1194 01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:35.399 apparently uncovered this allegedly miss fit Patriot's profile here. My 1195 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:42.079 quip was miss fist Patriot because of his profile name there, 1196 01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:44.960 but I don't think this should be surprising anyone, because 1197 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.760 I mean even Bryce and Gray kind of and other 1198 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:54.560 people were picking up on Skittles tendencies here shall we say? 1199 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:02.159 And bryceon Gray's not the smartest cookie in the cookie jar? 1200 01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:03.079 Is he? 1201 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:10.760 But anyway, so in other words, like this is like whatever, 1202 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:12.760 like normy conservatism is. 1203 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:14.680 People are done with that, dude. 1204 01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:22.079 Nobody wants purple haired, blue haired by sexual creep weirdos 1205 01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:25.800 telling them about the Middle East and geopolitics. 1206 01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:27.479 People are just sick of it, Sapphire. 1207 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:38.039 I mean, I'm talking about destiny all these creeps, Safire, 1208 01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:38.399 what's up? 1209 01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:38.560 You know what? 1210 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:39.119 I'm mute? 1211 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:40.159 Oh? 1212 01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.960 Hello, yeah, I know you're uncovering a lot. 1213 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:46.840 Of the JFK stuff today. I'm curious. 1214 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.880 Have you seen the letter from JFK Junior that was 1215 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:50.680 sent to Joe Biden? 1216 01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:51.760 And are you familiar with that at all? 1217 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:53.720 I did see that. I don't know what to make 1218 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:55.039 of that, because. 1219 01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:01.039 You know, if you go back to Burmus's videos, Burmas's 1220 01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:04.760 archived Biden's role in the Big Nine event, and Biden 1221 01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:06.840 did play an interesting role there because he went and 1222 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:12.159 met with General ma Mood and discussed the meeting. Then 1223 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:16.319 said there was no meeting. That's when money was transferred 1224 01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:20.479 hundred and twenty thousand dollars to Pakistani ISI and Biden 1225 01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:24.439 talked about it in that secret back door channel that 1226 01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:26.720 they had with the Pakistani i SID which relates to 1227 01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:30.399 the Big Nine event. Again, just go watch Burmas's archived 1228 01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:35.079 clips of that. That's on record. So in other words, 1229 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:37.479 Biden is he's not at the top of the pyramid, 1230 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:41.880 but obviously he played some important role. I think back 1231 01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:43.520 at the time at the Big Nine event, he was 1232 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.279 like the intelligence chair or whatever the Senate, you know, 1233 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:51.439 did intelligence chair or something. 1234 01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:52.359 I think that was his role. 1235 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:57.199 So, I mean, I'm sure that he's in the background 1236 01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.920 of this stuff as a kind of an adjacent person. 1237 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:03.520 He's not running everything. But I'm not surprised if that 1238 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.720 was true that he said Biden's a trader. But somebody 1239 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:10.760 was I don't know, but somebody was saying that the 1240 01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:14.119 FBI supposedly looked into that, and it's not a real letter. 1241 01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:16.399 I don't know, but I did see a lot of 1242 01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:17.319 people talking about it. 1243 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.720 Yeah, I looked into it too, and from what I'd 1244 01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:22.920 seen on some articles on it, it's like the FBI 1245 01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.680 confirmed that like the author is anonymous, but the signature 1246 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.319 is still on it. Oh really, it's like they have like, yeah, 1247 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:31.720 they have expert like doctors and stuff. Surely they would 1248 01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:35.000 know if someone like fabricated the signature. You know, they 1249 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.439 caught it, you know, Tekezinski that way. So it's like 1250 01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:40.520 it seems like it actually was his signature. So I'm wondering, like, 1251 01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:41.960 how the hell did that get on the letter? 1252 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:43.800 You know, just doesn't make any sense. 1253 01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:47.680 That's a good question, you know. 1254 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.600 I'm sure there's JFK researchers that would know more about 1255 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:52.119 that than me. 1256 01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:53.680 I'm not super. 1257 01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.159 I'm not super deep in you know, the JFK stuff. 1258 01:15:57.159 --> 01:15:58.600 All Right, it's up and for him. If anybody wants 1259 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:00.840 to come on and ask a question, if you'd like 1260 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.399 to have a debate discussion, we have Nicholas Bucci ten 1261 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:06.720 dollars your advice on the best way to study the 1262 01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:11.520 Church fathers. I would start with Athanasius on the Incarnation. 1263 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.199 I would read Basils on the Holy Spirit. I would 1264 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:19.680 read the five theological Orations of Gregory nazian Zeus, and 1265 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:22.880 then I would read or begin perhaps with read those, 1266 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:25.760 but begin with the post Apostolic fathers. 1267 01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:26.319 Can't. 1268 01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:28.479 That's beat that. That's probably the easiest way to start 1269 01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:30.720 reading the Fathers. I have a friend that assists the 1270 01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:35.439 Dudo Chronicles prove papocy in purgatory. I have no idea 1271 01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.399 how an idiot Roman calviy would think that the Dudero 1272 01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:40.600 Cannon and Maccabe's proves the papacy. 1273 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.199 That sounds completely insane to me. I would love to 1274 01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:43.439 hear a. 1275 01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.520 Roman calvic try to make an argument that McCabe's proves 1276 01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:52.399 the papacy. That just seems completely outlandish and purgatory. I 1277 01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:56.359 mean has after you mean, we use the text of 1278 01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:59.279 maccabee's to show that we pray for the dead, But that's. 1279 01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.359 Not a proof of purgatory. 1280 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:04.880 Is the created fire of God burning you as a 1281 01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:08.279 payment for your temporal debts for sins? There ain't none 1282 01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:11.960 of that in Macabe's. Referee Rob Jackson one dollar, thank 1283 01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:13.920 you to appreciate that. Guys, you can support the stream 1284 01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.600 via superchats. Superchats you're done through stream labs or natively 1285 01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:21.000 through YouTube. You can also join the channel and get 1286 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.079 access to these topics. If you like to know more 1287 01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:25.399 of my thoughts on some of these geopolitical issues. You 1288 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.279 can become a member, and I did just cover a 1289 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:28.960 three hour. 1290 01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:34.720 Talk on certain Middle Eastern things been the mystic uh 1291 01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:43.239 oh ay ay. 1292 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.000 I was wondering, I never heard of your take about 1293 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:51.600 your personal experience with the Big Nine event. I was 1294 01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:55.479 wondering where you were, what was your take on that day, 1295 01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:59.479 and when did your view on it start to shift 1296 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:03.520 towards malfeasance on the part of our government. 1297 01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:07.000 I was at work and. 1298 01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.199 We used to have a like a radio that was 1299 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:14.279 in the paint mixer I used to I was a 1300 01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:17.479 paint mixer, so I was mixing paint when it happened, 1301 01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:19.600 and I remember listening to it on the little radio 1302 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.840 there and I was, you know, I remember being blown away. 1303 01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:24.600 I was like, well, this is crazy. I can't believe this 1304 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:25.520 is happening. What's going on? 1305 01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:27.159 Like what's you know? 1306 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:29.840 And the news was like I remember under attack and 1307 01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:31.800 it's like are we going to war? 1308 01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:33.279 Like who's attacking? Is what's happening? 1309 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:37.239 So I remember when they announced that the first tower 1310 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.159 was hit, and then a little bit later the second 1311 01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:43.920 tower was hit, and yeah, I'll never forget any of that, 1312 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.680 but I mean I was like, I don't know. Nineteen 1313 01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:52.319 eighteen so I maybe twenty. I had no idea about geopolitics. 1314 01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:55.279 I didn't know anything about Islam or Middle East or 1315 01:18:55.359 --> 01:18:56.840 you know, any of that stuff. So I didn't know 1316 01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:01.039 anything other than what the mainstream media was telling everybody. 1317 01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.800 Because in two thousand and one, I mean, the Internet existed, 1318 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.640 but it wasn't like it wasn't omnipresent like it is now, 1319 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.479 so you know, you couldn't go look up all the 1320 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:14.920 you know, conspiracy facts or questioning the events or whatever. 1321 01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:19.079 And I remember watching I remember actually was Ebomb's World. 1322 01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:23.079 E Bomb's World had clips from Burmus's documentary on it 1323 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:26.359 because the clips were going viral, and it was clips 1324 01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:32.880 that were like questioning the Pentagon event, and that was like, 1325 01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:34.800 wait a minute, that's kind of weird, what's going on there? 1326 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:41.600 And then I remember watching the first version of Loose Change, 1327 01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:46.439 and then I remember watching not too long after that, 1328 01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:52.640 subsequent documentaries came out, so that that was about two 1329 01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:55.079 thousand and three and four or five is when I 1330 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.159 started questioning that event. 1331 01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:00.760 Yeah, I was in middle schoo when it happened. I 1332 01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:03.199 don't think I began to question until I probably got 1333 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:06.560 out of high school. And actually Jason Burmas. 1334 01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:08.720 When he left New York decided to move to the 1335 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:12.039 community that I used to live in, the Quad Cities, Iowa, 1336 01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:12.960 Illinois border. 1337 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:14.319 He's a good guy. 1338 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:17.960 Yeah, I'm talking out with Burmas in person. He's a fun, 1339 01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:23.239 really really cool, very kind, you know, charitable dude. 1340 01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:23.880 I like him a lot. 1341 01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:27.600 Yeah, thanks for that, I appreciate it. 1342 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:30.159 I thought you were the dude that's going to come 1343 01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:32.760 on and like try to argue a bunch of crazy 1344 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.319 mystical stuff. So I apologize. I thought you heard somebody 1345 01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:37.239 else MKG, what's up man? 1346 01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:44.199 Hey j Opo as well. 1347 01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:49.640 My question was about the super chat I sent in 1348 01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:54.359 last night. I think there was a misunderstanding regarding the 1349 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:56.600 Erman question part ermine question. 1350 01:20:57.359 --> 01:20:58.479 I wasn't asking. 1351 01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.600 From a textual perspective debate. 1352 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:03.000 I was asking that. 1353 01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:09.159 If hypothetically a bart Erhman or bart Ermin disciple were 1354 01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:12.520 to challenge you on Christianity, how. 1355 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:15.319 What would be a retort or how what what would 1356 01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:15.680 be the thing? 1357 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.800 I would use pre sup and tag because they would 1358 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:22.199 be coming from some kind of you know, unbelieving perspective. 1359 01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:27.439 So that's again, I'm a philosophy dude, not a text dude. 1360 01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:29.479 So that's that's the route I would take. 1361 01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:31.800 I don't know what other route you could take unless 1362 01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:35.000 you were, you know, studied in textual issues. Maximum nine 1363 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:40.600 to one, one three dollars, O'Brien's kayak ten dollars Daily 1364 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:43.600 wire Highlighting people like Destiny and defending Nala reminds me 1365 01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.760 of Karl Rove in the two thousands pushing big ten conservatism. 1366 01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:48.680 Oh, absolutely, absolutely yeah. 1367 01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:52.119 The quote conservatism is such a joke. That's why I 1368 01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:56.960 made that video a few months ago. Uh, conservatives are 1369 01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.840 a bunch of goofy goobers. 1370 01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:03.600 I'm a goof goober, your goof fee goober. We're all 1371 01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:08.760 goofy goobers. Ortho Christian one dollar. There's an article on 1372 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:16.359 The Guardian about Russian speaking Middle Eastern immigrants from the 1373 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:21.680 Soviet Union transformed Israeli policy. 1374 01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:35.039 Interesting, that makes sense because of Stalin's change in policy. Right, 1375 01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:42.720 Stalin went from originally wanting to sort of court Middle 1376 01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:54.880 Eastern countries two then what banishing certain groups? My cheap 1377 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.840 ass glasses just broke. So I'm gonna have to be 1378 01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:59.000 I'm gonna be acting. 1379 01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:07.279 Like a uh the peanut man with a monocle. I'm 1380 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:08.359 a goofye goober. 1381 01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:13.479 You are a goofy goober, your old goofy of goobers. 1382 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.520 And uh yeah, I remember Carl Rode pushing that that 1383 01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:23.319 was because they were always intending on you know, turning. 1384 01:23:24.279 --> 01:23:27.199 I mean, just neo conservatism itself is just liberalism, so 1385 01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.000 it's it's neo Trotskyism. 1386 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:46.159 Troy goo Goober, you are Okay, what's up, dude? 1387 01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.000 Okay, sorry, I was I gonna say. Oh so, I 1388 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:52.720 just have a quick question. I see you on my 1389 01:23:52.800 --> 01:23:55.239 TV here and you have the omniliberal destiny. 1390 01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:58.800 When when did he become a conservative or or how 1391 01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:00.479 was he representative of conservative? 1392 01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:02.119 I always thought he was, you. 1393 01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:06.600 Know, a crazy nobody got this tweet. When I originally 1394 01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:08.239 put it up, it went viral. It's got like three 1395 01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:11.840 hundred thousand views. It's a joke. So no, of course 1396 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:15.279 he's not conservative. My whole point is that Daily Wire 1397 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:19.560 platforms all these goofy goobers as if these people are 1398 01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.720 in any way relevant for conservative people. It's just ridiculous. 1399 01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:25.439 That was the whole point. 1400 01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:29.199 Okay, Yeah, I completely feel the joke. 1401 01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:33.720 If you look under the if you look under this post, 1402 01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:37.359 there's like thousands, hundreds of people who didn't get it. 1403 01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:39.439 They're all just saying like, yeah, they're. 1404 01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:41.920 Like us is conservative. 1405 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:44.760 Yeah, I know that's the point. Did I miss something? 1406 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:45.800 Did he switch over? 1407 01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:49.520 I know a year ago, so I was No, he's 1408 01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:54.159 a complete just demon dude. He's disgusting, but I mean 1409 01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:57.000 he's like misfit patriot, Like that's exactly that's the That's 1410 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:01.000 what they want conservatives to be, because when you have 1411 01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:07.960 no morals, you're completely you know, you don't have anything 1412 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:11.000 to conserve and you don't have any anything to fight 1413 01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.239 for to fight back from. 1414 01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:13.319 You know. 1415 01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:18.000 So that's why his name is Destiny, because he's what 1416 01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:22.119 the technocratic elite want the Western man to be. He 1417 01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:26.239 is the destiny of Western man from the mindset of 1418 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:28.520 the technocratic demon goblins. 1419 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:40.600 Joseph Jay Yo, Hey, so I go to Trinity Church. 1420 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:44.600 I went there, have been going there since November thirty 1421 01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:47.640 at twenty twenty three. I wasn't active LGS, but I 1422 01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.079 grew up. How do I choose a church man? Because 1423 01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:53.039 I know I studied church history and unfortunately, I know 1424 01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:55.520 I love my church, but I know I can't be 1425 01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:56.800 a Protestant, you know what I mean? 1426 01:25:57.239 --> 01:25:57.880 And I know. 1427 01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:01.800 After the Pope said all as lead to Heaven. 1428 01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:04.439 I know. I was like, yeah, they're out. So how 1429 01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:06.199 do I how do I go up? How would I 1430 01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:07.079 go about it? 1431 01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:11.520 Yeah, just wherever you live, go check out all of 1432 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.760 the Orthodox churches that are near you and find the 1433 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:18.760 one that's the best fit for you. That's literally the best. 1434 01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:20.279 That's what we all did. That's the best way to 1435 01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:23.880 do it. So that's my recommendation. 1436 01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:25.720 Guys, it is. 1437 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:33.399 Wait now we get more super chat excuse me, comforts 1438 01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:36.880 of home television three dollars. Sounds like the home shopping 1439 01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:40.960 network three dollars. Thank you for this information, God blessed, 1440 01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:42.279 Thank you man. I appreciate that. 1441 01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:48.039 Orthow Christian one dollar. 1442 01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:51.039 It seems to me that Middle Eastern country's connection is 1443 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:53.319 a good pretense for the World War three letter written 1444 01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.920 by Albert Pike. I actually think that letter is fake. 1445 01:26:57.039 --> 01:27:02.800 I don't think that's a real letter. Storing the cat 1446 01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:04.479 ten dollars. I like turtles. 1447 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:05.520 I have turtles. 1448 01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:12.039 Kay. 1449 01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:13.640 I'm just making sure I got all these super jets. 1450 01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:16.640 We don't want people angry. 1451 01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:19.239 I'm a goofy goober. 1452 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:22.720 You goober, anybody in the chat want to hop on? 1453 01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:23.039 All? 1454 01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:23.199 Right? 1455 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:23.520 Here we go. 1456 01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:33.039 We got some people hopping on trounser. So the topic 1457 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.199 the topics are listed. 1458 01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:35.800 What's up? 1459 01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:35.960 Man? 1460 01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:40.359 Hey, I have a question. It's somewhat related, maybe not. 1461 01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:43.039 You can tell me if this isn't good. But I've 1462 01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:46.399 recently gotten interested in the whole MK projects. 1463 01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:47.640 Right from the sixties. 1464 01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:50.279 I was one of those people that grew up like 1465 01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:54.800 I didn't think hypnotism was even real. Sorry, what's up 1466 01:27:55.079 --> 01:28:00.680 in kultra? Yeah, exactly, Okay, what would you recommend as bebies? 1467 01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:02.720 I know you've done a ton of research, I know, 1468 01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:05.880 like Esterbrooks has the book Hypnotism and all that. What 1469 01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:09.479 would your recommendation be for the best like comprehensive guide 1470 01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:10.079 on like. 1471 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:13.880 What that is, what hypnosis is? Or m keldra. 1472 01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.680 Well, I know they're overlapping, right, So I guess what's 1473 01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:20.520 your in your expert opinion, which want like just whatever 1474 01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:20.760 you think? 1475 01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:24.760 Well, okay, So Mkultra is dozens of projects all over 1476 01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:29.000 the place, at dozens of universities, not just in North America, 1477 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:32.720 but actually all over the world, even places like Australia 1478 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:37.239 so and in fact, more recently even other NATO countries. 1479 01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:42.319 You and Cameron and Carl Jung were at the same 1480 01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:47.760 outfit in Switzerland at the same time, Bergoldzi We've covered that. 1481 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:53.720 So in fact, there's actually not one magisterial text on 1482 01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:59.479 mk Ultra. But I would recommend either Walter Bowart's book 1483 01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:03.600 Operation in My Control or John Marx's book CIA and 1484 01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:07.199 Search for Entering Candidate. Those are two good introductory books. 1485 01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:10.439 Gordon Thomas also has a pretty lengthy book. He also 1486 01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:14.359 has an extensive book on Israeli intelligence and Masad, which 1487 01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:18.159 is in my stack over here. I have not read Gordon. 1488 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:19.960 That's the one book I haven't read on Keltra is 1489 01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:25.520 Gordon Thomas's book, but it's probably pretty good. Colin Ross 1490 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:28.199 has a book on the CIA doctors. So any of 1491 01:29:28.199 --> 01:29:31.239 these would be decent introductory works. But there's not, to 1492 01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:34.640 my knowledge, like one megaton book on. 1493 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:36.359 It got you. Yeah, I was looking at stuff that 1494 01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:39.439 was more uh. I mean you might have named them. 1495 01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:41.399 I'll go and look at these people afterward. But I 1496 01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:42.760 was even looking at like William J. 1497 01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:43.279 Bryant. 1498 01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:45.520 He has that book The Chosen Ones and stuff like, 1499 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:46.960 Have you read that one? 1500 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:49.199 I know it's more like jury selection. 1501 01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:51.439 So no, I don't know what's that to do with 1502 01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:51.960 him Kiltra. 1503 01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:52.960 Uh. 1504 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:55.439 Well, he was like only the hypnosis doctors right, like 1505 01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:57.359 he claimed he did Surhan. 1506 01:29:57.960 --> 01:30:00.920 So I didn't know if you were like familiar with him. 1507 01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:03.720 Are you talking about Lewis Jelly and West No. 1508 01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:04.119 No, William j. 1509 01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:09.319 Bryant, He's I think the grandson of like William Jennings Bryant. 1510 01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:13.520 He was like one of these hypnosis doctors. I think 1511 01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:18.239 he did the child, like the serial killer in Georgia, 1512 01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:18.880 that guy. 1513 01:30:19.159 --> 01:30:22.479 Uh uh Are you talking about Wayne Williams. 1514 01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:25.600 Yeah, yeah, he was the hypnosis doctor that pulled the 1515 01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:29.640 confession from Wayne Williams. Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, he he 1516 01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:32.399 claimed he did Sir Hannett like before his death. 1517 01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:34.960 So I didn't know if you were familiar anyway, Thank you. 1518 01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:38.560 Yeah, yeah. I mean hypnosis is just kind of one 1519 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.800 angle of it. But I don't know a whole lot 1520 01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:46.159 about hypnosis. But if you read the books that I mentioned, 1521 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:50.600 Bowart's book and Marx's book, they will discuss uh hypnosis 1522 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.359 to a degree. But a lot of this stuff is 1523 01:30:53.399 --> 01:31:03.239 still so. When mk Ultra happened, Helms destroyed supposedly seven 1524 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:06.880 of the fourteen boxes of documents, so half of them culture. 1525 01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:18.439 We don't know about Artemy, Yes, later do you hear me. 1526 01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:20.520 Awesome. 1527 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:24.159 I just I'm just curious how you Jay Dyer is 1528 01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:29.680 an American blogger. You keep spreading Russian propaganda, Kremlin propaganda 1529 01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:34.439 that's clearly from Russian state media. I find it very 1530 01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:39.640 interesting how you're very biased towards Ukraine. There's many Orthodox 1531 01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:41.680 real Christians in Ukraine. 1532 01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:45.600 Would that be the would that be the. 1533 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:46.479 Would that be hold on? 1534 01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:49.159 Would that be the schismatic group created by the CIA 1535 01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:52.560 and the patriarch econonical patriarch. Is that the is that 1536 01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:53.279 you're talking about. 1537 01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:55.560 I don't know, you don't know. 1538 01:31:56.359 --> 01:32:00.319 I just think Ukraine is fighting against neo Bolsheviks, hate 1539 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:01.760 real Christians. 1540 01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:06.159 And so who who created the schismatic with Dominko the 1541 01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:07.600 schismatic Orthodox Church. 1542 01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:12.720 You're asking me a specific question that what you can 1543 01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:14.079 answer wants to trick me. 1544 01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:15.000 I'm asking you. 1545 01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:23.760 No, it's an opening. 1546 01:32:22.760 --> 01:32:23.079 People. 1547 01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:28.199 Dude, you mean what's on record with Dumenko? 1548 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:30.760 These people are idiots. 1549 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:35.479 No, I don't know specific way. I can't answer about 1550 01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:42.199 du Crane is good, guys, Yes, the entire. 1551 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:49.439 Western world has been duped by Russian propaganda. Because Zelensky 1552 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:53.760 is awesome, as Battalion is awesome. All this stuff, right, 1553 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.840 So we're not even talking about that today. We're talking 1554 01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:05.319 about uh JFK. So can people not talk about the 1555 01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:08.640 very like? The topics are listed, you guys, it's not JFK. 1556 01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:15.439 It's not that stuff. B M duper five dollars. The 1557 01:33:15.520 --> 01:33:18.640 ci van outside your house shot a laser beam to 1558 01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.319 break your glasses. These are just like cheap ass reading glasses. 1559 01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:25.439 So it did not require CIA laser beams. That was 1560 01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:32.199 really funny, though, really funny, but discord one dollar. Now 1561 01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:32.880 we already read that. 1562 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:37.159 Excuse me. Then went on, I have a discussion about 1563 01:33:37.159 --> 01:33:40.760 the topics and just spout out shit. They have no 1564 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:41.880 idea about Tony. What's up? 1565 01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:42.079 Man? 1566 01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:56.279 Hey, Tony, Hey, Tony, what's on your mind? 1567 01:33:57.279 --> 01:34:00.960 We got ten new members. Shout out to you, new members, Tony, 1568 01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:10.079 what's up? Go ahead, Tony soprano. 1569 01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:13.000 Gobble hey, Tony is the gobble gool. 1570 01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:22.239 All right, So open form, anybody wants to come on 1571 01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:26.159 and talk. The topics are JFK files, CIA, usage of 1572 01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:30.840 the Romancolic Church by the CIA as a instrument of 1573 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:38.479 soft power, Cold War, Neo Bolshevism, by the way, is 1574 01:34:39.079 --> 01:34:43.520 neo conservatism. The neo cons are the neo Bolshevist, neo Trotskyites. 1575 01:34:43.680 --> 01:35:02.680 So good father, I'm mute. 1576 01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:06.720 Yello. 1577 01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:10.960 Okay, yeah, excellent, Well, thank you so much for letting 1578 01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:12.880 me on your live. 1579 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:17.720 Here's what's on my mind lately is. 1580 01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:21.199 Maybe it's not directly tied, but. 1581 01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:23.680 I'm thinking a lot about the Schism of ten to 1582 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.640 fifty four and how it was ran by these two 1583 01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:27.520 Roman prelates. 1584 01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:32.079 Okay, and and it's and that's the whole thing was 1585 01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:37.560 based on a forced document of the donation of Constantine. 1586 01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:43.399 And I'm curious if that is the beginning of the 1587 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:49.399 way the papal authority kind of develops this clandestine partnership stuff. 1588 01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:53.760 I think that it contributes. 1589 01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:57.760 There are other factors that are part of it as well, 1590 01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.000 so that you know, the history of the papal states 1591 01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:05.279 existing partly on the basis of these forged claims, the 1592 01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:08.880 collapse of the Roman Empire leaving the papacy to fill 1593 01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:15.319 that vacuum, deviations, and the theology contributes to it because 1594 01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:19.399 the Gregorian Reforms the eleventh century is where you have 1595 01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:22.880 the papacy claiming to be a world ruler. 1596 01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:26.159 Oh, here's here's another here's another question. 1597 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.439 It kind of partners with it is the unloven bread. 1598 01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:31.039 The unloven bread argument. 1599 01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:35.760 What do you think was a primary influence in why 1600 01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:36.720 the West was. 1601 01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:39.760 Using unlove and bread. 1602 01:36:40.479 --> 01:36:45.399 There was a one of our listeners just posited an 1603 01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.279 argument for this which I had not heard. There was 1604 01:36:48.319 --> 01:36:55.520 a seventh or eighth century Germanic theologian I don't remember 1605 01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.640 his name, but he was the first to propose that 1606 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:06.159 it needs to be the Judaic bred usage because quote 1607 01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:09.880 Jesus was doing the passover. So it's about a seventh 1608 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:13.600 century Germanic convert theologian. I don't remember his name, but 1609 01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:16.920 that's apparently where it first appears, and that would count 1610 01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:24.640 as a judaizing error. Right, Okay, it's the guy is Melkite. 1611 01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:28.840 He's always on here. He may be on here now. 1612 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:31.439 I just can't think of his profile name, but Melkite something. 1613 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:34.159 He commented a couple of days ago. The name of 1614 01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:36.319 this Germanic guy I'd never heard of. 1615 01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:42.560 Okay, Right, But also also you have. 1616 01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.239 To keep in mind when you read Photius's letter about 1617 01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:51.079 the Carolinians sending missionaries into Orthodox countries like Bulgaria to 1618 01:37:51.159 --> 01:37:55.439 convert them to Romanism, even in the eight hundreds, what's 1619 01:37:55.479 --> 01:38:00.319 fascinating is that he notes that these quote missionary that 1620 01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:07.680 were sent to preach phillyoquay, we're already using the papal 1621 01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:11.439 claims that you have to do philly oakuay and change 1622 01:38:11.479 --> 01:38:14.439 the bread because the papees he said it. So in 1623 01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:19.159 other words, they became issues that the Western missionaries were 1624 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:23.319 saying was the basis for the Orthodox being schismatics and 1625 01:38:23.800 --> 01:38:26.920 wrong when the Orthodox were actually correct. So in other words, 1626 01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:29.479 there was a political move for that as well. 1627 01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:33.439 Right, Yeah, anyway, it's just got me thinking about this 1628 01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:39.239 Middle Eastern situation and wondering how much what kind of influence. 1629 01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:39.279 In all that? 1630 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:44.439 Uh oh, it could be, I mean yeah, if it's 1631 01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:47.760 a judaizing error, it could be. But I mean this 1632 01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:53.479 goes back to like eighth century Germanic converts, as I understand, 1633 01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:55.039 jerd On. 1634 01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:02.920 I can hear me. 1635 01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:09.880 My question is, like best case scenario, like in the 1636 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:14.520 ten years people wake up, people start to actually inform themselves. 1637 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:17.039 What happens, I don't know. 1638 01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:18.439 I mean, I don't think. 1639 01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:22.520 I think that after a century of brainwashing and mind 1640 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:26.359 control and social engineering, it's going to take many years 1641 01:39:26.359 --> 01:39:27.199 to undo all that. 1642 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:28.199 So I have no idea. 1643 01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:30.640 Yeah, that was the only question. 1644 01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:35.600 Sorry, I don't have a better answer for that, but Harrison. 1645 01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:35.680 What's up man? 1646 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:47.399 By the way, we already have you know, Lord Baltimore 1647 01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:56.359 interviewed I Howard Hunt on his deathbed, confessing to playing 1648 01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:59.520 a role in it. So you know, if you remember, 1649 01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:03.239 and that was in Rolling Stone too, well, I remember 1650 01:40:03.239 --> 01:40:06.920 when when Alex posted that his deathbed interview with I 1651 01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.680 Howard Hunt admitting that they played. 1652 01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:10.880 A role in JFK. 1653 01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:15.279 So, I mean, you have to not know anything to 1654 01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:19.560 you know, not know some of this stuff. Harrison, what's up, page, 1655 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:22.399 how's it going, good man? What's on your mind? 1656 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:23.800 Yeah? 1657 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:30.000 So yesterday I was watching your Jesuits and Geopolitics stream. 1658 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:32.039 It was very good, the old one. 1659 01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:35.239 Uh yeah, okay, yeah. 1660 01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:39.439 So it's it's super interesting to me to see the 1661 01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:45.520 influence of these kind of different sections of like branches 1662 01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:51.399 of the Catholic Church if you will have these geopolitical influences, 1663 01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.840 so like how would you say, like kind of like 1664 01:40:55.880 --> 01:41:00.560 an updated version of maybe that stream, like you see 1665 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:04.760 that other than the Pope today like influencing maybe. 1666 01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:07.079 Stuff like well, one easy way to see it is 1667 01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:11.239 the USAID stuff. I mean USAID for example, was giving 1668 01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:15.399 tens of millions of dollars to the most liberal skittles 1669 01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:21.119 Lutheran organizations and churches. There you go. Another example would 1670 01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:25.520 be ecumenism itself. Ecumenism, if you read the Weimoff book, 1671 01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:31.920 is itself a CIA Rockefeller project. And so the idea 1672 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:36.640 of watering down the theology to turn the churches into 1673 01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:43.720 tools of American soft power to promote Americanism is crucial. 1674 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.359 In fact, one of the main things that Wemoff argues 1675 01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:48.520 at the beginning of the book is that ecumenism itself 1676 01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:55.319 is a consumerist ideology. I will decide based on Low's 1677 01:41:55.359 --> 01:41:59.000 common nominator. I'll pick and choose the theology of what 1678 01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:01.840 I think Christianity is. And so Christianity is just like 1679 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:05.119 the basic principles of you know LCD Low's comra on there, 1680 01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:08.640 so ehumanism literally is Americanism. 1681 01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:11.720 That's his thesis. 1682 01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:15.479 Yeah, I mean, I mean that's really interesting, especially if 1683 01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:20.239 you apply that kind of influence in modernity. I mean 1684 01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:25.079 the techno feudalism aspect of it is pretty concerning to me. 1685 01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:27.920 Well, if you read but beyond that too, if you 1686 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:30.960 read the Michael Graziano book that we lectured through Aaron 1687 01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:33.319 into the Wilderness. The academic text on the history of 1688 01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:38.199 CIA in religion and the Catholic Church particularly, he says 1689 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:41.199 in that book as well as just a normal secular scholar. 1690 01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:44.479 He says that the CIA operatives that we're working with, 1691 01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:48.159 the OSS and the CIA, they're all ecumenists, and they 1692 01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:54.359 put they put Americanism first, Catholicism second. 1693 01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:57.399 Yeah, that does not surprise me. 1694 01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:03.000 But I mean they're definitely using the guys of like 1695 01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:05.479 with the USA stuff. I mean, they could just label 1696 01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:09.640 it as some you know, Jesuit practice and have it 1697 01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:10.239 be written off. 1698 01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:13.479 Well, it's even worse than that because Catholic charities and 1699 01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:15.960 all that stuff that's like human t R A F 1700 01:43:16.039 --> 01:43:17.279 F I C K I N. 1701 01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:21.800 Oh yeah yeah, all right man, thanks man. 1702 01:43:22.279 --> 01:43:23.720 Also appreciate everything you do. 1703 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:26.560 Jay, help me out a lot. Sure, thank you, all 1704 01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:34.239 right bigly. You'll notice, by the way, that the Roman 1705 01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:37.880 Catholic trash talkers, all of them all over the internet today, 1706 01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:39.119 none of them will come and debate this. 1707 01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:44.000 What's up? 1708 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:44.199 Man? 1709 01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:48.239 I sent this to probably ten of them, can you 1710 01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:48.439 hear me? 1711 01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:49.439 Yeah? 1712 01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:55.000 Hey, just a random question here, why has there always 1713 01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:58.720 been a fascination and just this kind of general positivity 1714 01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:02.359 surrounding as a president. I'm sure I could google this, 1715 01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:06.479 but in your opinion, Democrats, Republicans, people in the middle 1716 01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:08.399 just seem to hold him in such a high regard. 1717 01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:09.760 I'd love to get your take on that. 1718 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:10.359 Well. 1719 01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:12.239 I can tell you that that's a good point because 1720 01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:14.319 when you go to Dealey Plaza, which we did about 1721 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:17.279 ten years ago, I've never been there. It's a very 1722 01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:26.359 propaganda heavy I mean, it's all devoted to democracy and Americanism. 1723 01:44:27.439 --> 01:44:34.880 So at a bigger level, Kennedy represents a belief in 1724 01:44:34.920 --> 01:44:39.640 the thing that Quigly is defending in Tragian hope, because 1725 01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:42.279 in Tragian hope, the tragedy is the two World Wars 1726 01:44:42.319 --> 01:44:48.039 the twentieth century, and the hope is liberal democratic capitalism 1727 01:44:48.079 --> 01:44:50.399 can save the world. Literally, that's what like at the 1728 01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:54.119 end of the book. That's his hope. And so Kennedy 1729 01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:57.239 is sort of the ultimate martyr figure as well as 1730 01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:05.000 perhaps RFKMLK two, because they represent the potential future synthesis 1731 01:45:05.039 --> 01:45:11.119 of the Cold War dialectic moving forward into Americanism. So 1732 01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:14.560 Kennedy becomes a kind of a martyr for Americanism. I'm 1733 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:19.479 not saying that that means that him undergoing that was 1734 01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:22.479 a good thing. I think that there was a confluence 1735 01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:28.479 of interest to remove him obviously in this operation, because 1736 01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:35.159 he threatened certain forces and certain objectives and people groups 1737 01:45:35.840 --> 01:45:40.600 that had their own motivations. So think of it more 1738 01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:45.920 like rival crime families than good guy bad guy. But yes, 1739 01:45:46.399 --> 01:45:49.920 they were able to also turn Kennedy into this notion 1740 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:53.079 of a martyr for the religion of democracy. 1741 01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:55.159 Yeah. 1742 01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:58.119 I've just met with people on extremes of the political 1743 01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.640 sphere and you can find plenty, you know, anecdotal folks 1744 01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:04.319 that they look at him almost as if he was 1745 01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:07.399 a guy he was untouchable and never said the wrong thing, 1746 01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:09.039 and which we all know is not true. 1747 01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:12.399 But I've always just wondered that, so appreciate it. Yeah. 1748 01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:16.039 Also that, uh, that probably that when they when they 1749 01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:18.640 play that clip of him when he talks about. 1750 01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:22.880 Malcol under the under the falses, I'm saying, false, has 1751 01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:26.600 all this kind of nonsense shake our societies. He's not 1752 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:30.640 talking about Masons, and you know this, the whole context 1753 01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:35.000 of that speech is the Soviets. He's talking about Soviet 1754 01:46:35.079 --> 01:46:39.439 forces infiltrating America. It's just Cold War stuff, and a 1755 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:41.680 lot of times people play that clip out of context, 1756 01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:46.159 like JFK was calling out the Masons and the Secret 1757 01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:48.840 societies and and all this stuff. And I think he 1758 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:52.399 did have, as the document show, a desire to. 1759 01:46:55.239 --> 01:47:00.640 Try to rein in the CIA because they've been doing 1760 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:03.159 this with organized crime too, right, they were going after 1761 01:47:03.159 --> 01:47:09.399 the mobsters. They sent Carlos Marcelo to Guam. So he 1762 01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:13.399 probably was making certain moves to you know, whether that 1763 01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:15.119 was just to protect his own power or whether he 1764 01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:17.279 really cared about America. Either one, he was making moves 1765 01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:20.520 that made people mad. And then you know he betrayed 1766 01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:22.439 them mafia because they got them. They got the Kennedy's 1767 01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:26.720 elected through voter manipulation through the Chicago machine. That's well known. 1768 01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:29.920 So he made a lot. He pissed off a lot 1769 01:47:29.960 --> 01:47:32.760 of people. So there was there were various powerful people 1770 01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:36.720 with motivations, including sort of Texas big oil people that 1771 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:40.279 were not happy with him too. So you make enemies 1772 01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:41.079 like that at that level. 1773 01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:41.880 That's what happens. 1774 01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:46.520 And that doesn't mean that you're therefore like the perfect 1775 01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:47.239 super saint. 1776 01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:48.560 I mean he was. 1777 01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:52.800 He was banging Marily Monroe the same time Samsy and 1778 01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:56.079 Conny was banging Marily Monroe and she was like, I mean, 1779 01:47:56.920 --> 01:47:58.640 it's just crazy, you know. 1780 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:01.640 So he also with the president that apparently was getting 1781 01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:04.640 shot up with methamphetamines every day in the Oval office. 1782 01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:05.439 Am I thinking of the right? 1783 01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:07.520 I think that's right. I think uh, or that there's 1784 01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:09.960 a story about that, and uh he had like. 1785 01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:12.359 An ivy trip of that stuff going on. What I 1786 01:48:12.439 --> 01:48:13.239 was what I was. 1787 01:48:13.159 --> 01:48:16.199 Told, So I mean, you know, he might he might 1788 01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:20.760 have had, you know, some sincere desires for America to 1789 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:26.000 not be influenced by you know, Israeli politicians or something 1790 01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:30.479 like that. His dad was Joe Senior, was involved in 1791 01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:35.479 organized crime. He worked with al Capone, and his dad 1792 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.880 was ambassador to England, so they were very close to 1793 01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:40.039 British intelligence. And by the way, I'm sure British intelligence 1794 01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:42.319 had a role in this event too, which nobody talks about, 1795 01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:46.720 given the fact that Joe Senior was ambassador to Britain. Kofi, 1796 01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:50.760 then we'll go to Basil. But like I said, I'm 1797 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:58.560 also not like a jfk Lore historian person. So Kofi, 1798 01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:02.439 how's it going, what's on your mind? 1799 01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:05.760 So I don't know this is off. 1800 01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:09.479 Topic, but would be some good questions to ask my 1801 01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:12.000 Lutheran pastor an objection to Lutheranism. 1802 01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:14.800 I'm still very new to the church and stuff. I've 1803 01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:16.439 probably got a couple of months there, and I would 1804 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:19.079 like prot. 1805 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:20.640 Just I'm not trying to be rude, but you can 1806 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.520 watch some of my videos, but that's not the topic today, Basil, 1807 01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:29.600 what's up, man? Just watch any of the videos critiquing Protestants. 1808 01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:36.479 Watch the debate with DL the Protestant what's on dog, Basil? 1809 01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:42.039 Hey, uh, I'm trying to find the connection. 1810 01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.520 And I'm relatively new to your stuff, and I'm just 1811 01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:49.199 trying to think about the dichotomy that a lot of 1812 01:49:49.399 --> 01:49:53.199 people are talking about between the Zionists and the Bolsheviks, 1813 01:49:53.680 --> 01:49:57.840 whereas through most of the Cold War era seemed to 1814 01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:00.119 be on the same side, and a lot of perspects, 1815 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:06.760 and especially when it comes to the jfk assassination, the government, 1816 01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:10.000 the US government seemed to be more attacking the Bolsheviks 1817 01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:13.119 while siding with the Zionists. And I'm trying to find 1818 01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:16.159 a good mapping of those relationships. 1819 01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:17.920 And I was wondering what your opinion was and if 1820 01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:18.920 you had any resources. 1821 01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:22.159 There's a good article that deals with that at Espionage 1822 01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:25.680 History Archive by Mark and it's I'm trying to remember. 1823 01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:32.359 It's the one I think that talks about what do 1824 01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:34.600 I think for a second, it's the one that talks 1825 01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:42.399 about Stalin and him shifting his view on Jews because 1826 01:50:42.439 --> 01:50:43.159 Jews ended up. 1827 01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:45.920 Leaving and going to. 1828 01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:52.760 Israel from Russia because of this shift in policy. It 1829 01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:58.199 has to do with them, the Soviets wanting Israel on 1830 01:50:58.239 --> 01:51:01.880 their side, and then Israel ended up siding with the West, 1831 01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:03.760 and that would be like, you know, a lot of 1832 01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:11.960 the stuff that James Jus Angleton was trying to. 1833 01:51:09.399 --> 01:51:10.039 Get in place. 1834 01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:13.479 But I cannot I haven't looked at this in like 1835 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:16.760 ten years, so I'm trying to remember. It might be 1836 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:19.880 the article that talks about Philby. 1837 01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:21.079 I can't remember. 1838 01:51:21.159 --> 01:51:25.000 Let's see if it's a Philby article, because Philby was 1839 01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:29.000 involved in this too, because he was a journalist somewhere. 1840 01:51:31.399 --> 01:51:38.359 So it's either this one Hitler, Hitler and Stalin, or 1841 01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:42.479 it's oh, it might be this one. Oh, I know 1842 01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:43.079 which one it is. 1843 01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:43.640 It's this one. 1844 01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:44.239 Can you mute? 1845 01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:45.119 Do that's really loud? 1846 01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:51.880 It's I think it's this one Victor Rothchall's Soviet spy. 1847 01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:55.800 I think this one deals with that. Yes, this is it. 1848 01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:02.760 So if you read this, yes, this is it, because 1849 01:52:02.760 --> 01:52:04.720 he gets into phil be and Blunt at the end. 1850 01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:06.199 This is it. 1851 01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:10.479 So I got to Espionage History archive and read Victor 1852 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:11.640 Rothchild Soviet Spy. 1853 01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:15.359 That's the art, that's the article, yep. 1854 01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:23.319 And it talks about the Soviet shift under Stalin. That 1855 01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:24.520 doesn't make Stalin a good guy. 1856 01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:25.039 By the way, I don't know. 1857 01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:28.520 People always think in these not you, but there is 1858 01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:30.920 thinks in these like really childish dialectics. 1859 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:32.560 Well, you're seeing Stalin's a hero. 1860 01:52:35.199 --> 01:52:36.399 Thomas B. Five dollars. 1861 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:39.720 Does para cursis mean that the persons share the same 1862 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:40.520 divine nature? 1863 01:52:41.239 --> 01:52:42.840 Para cursis means indwelling. 1864 01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:48.439 It's first used in by Maximus to discuss what happens 1865 01:52:48.439 --> 01:52:50.399 in the incarnation the hypeset of union, that each of 1866 01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:53.600 the nature is fully interpenetrate and dwell one another without 1867 01:52:53.640 --> 01:52:58.000 destroying the properties of that nature. And it's also applied 1868 01:52:58.039 --> 01:53:01.319 in theology after Maximus to the trend wherein the divine 1869 01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:06.399 persons in dwell one another. So it's the persons in dwelling. 1870 01:53:06.399 --> 01:53:10.319 It doesn't necessarily directly relate to them sharing a common 1871 01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:14.119 essence per se. How does it go with the incarnation, 1872 01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:18.119 Like I said, because in the incarnation Christ, human nature 1873 01:53:18.119 --> 01:53:22.159 and its divine nature fully in dwell and interpenetrate one 1874 01:53:22.159 --> 01:53:27.119 another without the dissolution or destruction of those natures. O'Brien's 1875 01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:31.119 kayak ten dollars. Kennedy represented the Hope to such a 1876 01:53:31.159 --> 01:53:34.520 degree that they call the admission the administration Camelot. 1877 01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:35.319 Yeah, exactly. 1878 01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:39.520 This is juxtaposition to the family's mob connections. It was 1879 01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:41.199 a brilliant piece of marketing. 1880 01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:42.000 Yeah. 1881 01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:45.039 They were brought to power through the mafia, and that 1882 01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:51.079 goes back to Joe Senior, who again ran liquor during 1883 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:59.279 prohibition with al Capone. Ozwa. 1884 01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:07.640 Hello, just some questions about your stream yesterday and some 1885 01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:12.279 comments you made today kind of shut down the idea 1886 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:17.720 of Russia like collaborating with the USA in general just 1887 01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:23.239 managing global security and things like that. And yesterday when 1888 01:54:23.239 --> 01:54:26.439 you talk about the Middle East, you mentioned how a 1889 01:54:26.479 --> 01:54:29.960 lot of it comes from sort of British policy from 1890 01:54:29.960 --> 01:54:34.800 the beginning of the century. Yeah, that's not contrast be 1891 01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:37.960 shut down the no, but I just wonder what you 1892 01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:41.439 do you like, disagree that the USA and Russia kind 1893 01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:45.000 of worked together to manage the security of the world 1894 01:54:45.159 --> 01:54:47.880 in some way like they must do, they must have 1895 01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:50.239 some sort of relationship. 1896 01:54:52.920 --> 01:54:57.479 Uh no, there are relationships, there are degrees of you know, 1897 01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:02.439 security agreements, sure, but. 1898 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:04.159 That you just end the day that you don't think 1899 01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:05.640 that they go further. 1900 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:09.399 Well, what explicitly are are you thinking? You think that 1901 01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:13.359 Trump and Putin secretly meet in the Masonic. 1902 01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:13.720 Lodges or what? 1903 01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:16.960 Nothing like that? 1904 01:55:17.119 --> 01:55:22.359 Long, Well, what is your theory? 1905 01:55:22.119 --> 01:55:29.520 They Okay, I just wanted. 1906 01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:30.479 To some clarification. 1907 01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:36.199 Well, it's because I work for the KGB, right, So 1908 01:55:37.439 --> 01:55:42.720 I was hired in nineteen eighty by the KGB to 1909 01:55:42.840 --> 01:55:50.079 promote Soviet cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and dougan coin, and I've 1910 01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:52.520 been outed. So that's that's what's going on. It's it's 1911 01:55:52.560 --> 01:56:00.439 all me running disinformation to protect Soviet coin, my uh 1912 01:56:01.079 --> 01:56:05.720 crypto and putent coin because I get paid in putent coin, 1913 01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:09.479 So that's what it does. It's all it's all vast, massive, 1914 01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:24.039 gigantic conspiracy. So here are one of these Roman Catholics 1915 01:56:24.039 --> 01:56:26.319 who has anime pro they're always the worst two that 1916 01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:33.760 Roman cast the anime profiles, and they won't come debate. 1917 01:56:52.840 --> 01:57:10.640 So Spinoza's pantheism is not pagan or gnostic apparently. And 1918 01:57:11.199 --> 01:57:12.880 I'm arguing this guy right now, trying to get him 1919 01:57:12.880 --> 01:57:50.439 to come debate. So I wonder he's got quite a 1920 01:57:50.439 --> 01:57:52.479 few in his audience. I'll see if any of his 1921 01:57:52.520 --> 01:57:59.039 audience will come to bate. He's got seventeen thousand followers, supposely. 1922 01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:12.119 And this is what you get with the Roman Catholics. 1923 01:58:12.159 --> 01:58:18.079 They want to defend Spinoza's pantheism, which is based in Kabbala. 1924 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:23.279 This is you can read this in Gersham Sholam. You 1925 01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:26.399 can read Kabbala goes back to narcissism into platonism. You 1926 01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:28.319 could read this in Sholom. You could read this in 1927 01:58:28.800 --> 01:58:32.920 Snicia Glu's giant Cambridge text. But these people are just 1928 01:58:33.119 --> 01:58:45.520 out to launch. He only loves deboating. None of them 1929 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:53.720 will come debate. That's crazy. If you would like to debate, 1930 01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:56.720 it's open for him. I've asked about fifteen of these 1931 01:58:56.840 --> 01:59:00.920 wacko Roman Catholics and quasi pagan want to be I 1932 01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:03.199 want to be fascist Larper's. They won't come to bait. 1933 01:59:05.439 --> 01:59:18.000 So where are you at, dude, mister c So what 1934 01:59:18.079 --> 01:59:22.239 does Gersham Scholam say about Kabbalism that anyone would know 1935 01:59:22.239 --> 01:59:26.199 who'd read any of his text He's the foremost Cabbalistic scholar. 1936 01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:28.079 Of the twentieth century. 1937 01:59:28.319 --> 01:59:31.479 I've got about five of his books. This one major 1938 01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:38.000 trans of Jewish mysticism. What is Mercaba mysticism? Oh, it's 1939 01:59:38.479 --> 01:59:45.079 Jewish gnosticism. What is gnosticism? While it's pagan as st 1940 01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:48.279 Heuronees and many of the Church fathers say. And if 1941 01:59:48.279 --> 01:59:52.880 you read Scholam's other text Kabbala, he says Cabbalism is 1942 01:59:52.880 --> 01:59:59.439 based in Neoplatonism. And if you read Soniciaglow's book on Spinoza, 1943 02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:03.520 he said, which is the Cambridge text, he says Spinoza 1944 02:00:04.960 --> 02:00:10.119 and his pantheism was influenced by atheistic Platonism from his 1945 02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:16.600 Antium from Gemistos Plethon. I'm pretty sure Plethon is a 1946 02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:56.640 pagan philosopher. I'm trying to get this guy to come 1947 02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:58.960 to bate, like I have to beg these people to 1948 02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:00.159 come debate m. 1949 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:41.600 And they won't do it. Palpable memes. And then Michael, 1950 02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:44.359 what's up palpable memes? 1951 02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:56.239 I'm you, hey, j I have a quick question while 1952 02:01:56.319 --> 02:01:58.359 you're waiting for a napponent. 1953 02:01:59.239 --> 02:02:03.720 That they won't come, Go ahead, Hey, a few months ago, 1954 02:02:03.800 --> 02:02:05.920 I was just happened to be scrolling some of your 1955 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:08.840 older work on YouTube and came across a breakdown that 1956 02:02:08.920 --> 02:02:14.119 you did of Jonas Salk's Survival of the Wisest. And 1957 02:02:14.279 --> 02:02:16.479 that was the first day of the Trump presidency. 1958 02:02:16.600 --> 02:02:19.359 The second day I saw him roll out Stargate with 1959 02:02:19.439 --> 02:02:23.760 Larry Ellison and Sam Moltman, and it just like. 1960 02:02:24.760 --> 02:02:26.920 So, I'm on YouTube, we can't talk about that right now, 1961 02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:27.960 mister c what's. 1962 02:02:27.840 --> 02:02:31.840 Up, Hey, mister Dian, good evening. 1963 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.880 I had a question about feel free to boot me 1964 02:02:36.920 --> 02:02:40.319 if I'm off topic, about the web Holf book and 1965 02:02:40.399 --> 02:02:42.319 also by the Courtney Murray book. 1966 02:02:42.520 --> 02:02:44.800 That's on topic. You're the first person to actually be 1967 02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:45.279 on the topic. 1968 02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:46.319 I'm joking ahead. 1969 02:02:47.920 --> 02:02:50.039 All right from here in Tim Kelly, a while back 1970 02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:51.920 about these two books, I was wondering if there were 1971 02:02:51.960 --> 02:02:55.479 anything more in relation to intelligence agencies and the Catholic 1972 02:02:55.600 --> 02:02:58.000 Church besides maybe God called apart three or something. 1973 02:02:59.159 --> 02:02:59.279 Uh? 1974 02:02:59.520 --> 02:03:02.319 What what books? You said, two books. 1975 02:03:02.560 --> 02:03:05.560 Besides the Courtney Murray book and also the wind Hof 1976 02:03:05.560 --> 02:03:07.600 book in terms of Catholic. 1977 02:03:07.319 --> 02:03:08.560 Church, Well, the John Courtney. 1978 02:03:08.680 --> 02:03:10.880 M do you mean when you say the Courtney Murray 1979 02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:12.239 book that is the Window books. 1980 02:03:12.279 --> 02:03:14.319 What do you mean, Oh okay, I thought there was 1981 02:03:14.319 --> 02:03:18.520 a second one that dealt with Catholicism and intelligence agencies. 1982 02:03:18.600 --> 02:03:19.720 I just wonder if so. 1983 02:03:20.039 --> 02:03:23.399 There's many that deal with it in some degree. There's 1984 02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:28.319 the Paul Williams book on Gladio. There's the Michael Graziano 1985 02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:31.520 book on Aaron into the Wilderness, which I covered. There's 1986 02:03:31.560 --> 02:03:34.319 the John Taylor book about spies in the Vatican, which 1987 02:03:34.359 --> 02:03:38.600 is a procier narrative. There's Daniel Ganser's book NATO's Secret Armies. 1988 02:03:42.680 --> 02:03:48.319 And there's God's Banker about Roberto Calvi and the Minco Dembrosio. 1989 02:03:52.680 --> 02:03:55.039 And I'm sure there's other ones, but those are kind 1990 02:03:55.039 --> 02:03:56.720 of the main ones that I can think of. 1991 02:03:58.760 --> 02:03:59.159 Very cool. 1992 02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:01.319 I know the Williams book in the Courney worry book 1993 02:04:01.399 --> 02:04:03.760 or written by Catholics so that it has more have 1994 02:04:03.920 --> 02:04:06.359 at least to us being you know what's going on 1995 02:04:06.399 --> 02:04:06.880 in the church. 1996 02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:13.039 So correct, correct, yes, correct, good point, Thank you, mister c. 1997 02:04:13.319 --> 02:04:16.960 And thank God for somebody on topic. And Melchite cleric 1998 02:04:17.039 --> 02:04:20.600 is the guy who knows about the first Germanic dude 1999 02:04:21.279 --> 02:04:26.520 to use uh, the Judaic version of the bread. 2000 02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:30.000 Who was that guy? 2001 02:04:30.560 --> 02:04:30.880 Hello? 2002 02:04:31.439 --> 02:04:36.319 Yeah, go ahead, Hey, I wanted to comment on the 2003 02:04:36.840 --> 02:04:37.800 I love of bread. 2004 02:04:38.760 --> 02:04:39.000 It was. 2005 02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:41.199 It was actually so interesting. 2006 02:04:41.840 --> 02:04:43.159 When I found out about it. 2007 02:04:43.199 --> 02:04:48.239 And it was a monastic practice in Frankia by Saint 2008 02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:53.039 Vincar Cisel, and he's actually still venerated in the Eastern 2009 02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:58.000 Orthodox Church today. He was a prolific monastic. He's mentioned 2010 02:04:58.039 --> 02:05:04.760 as blessed and mentioned energy. But like I said, he 2011 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:06.479 was a monastic. 2012 02:05:06.279 --> 02:05:07.840 And uh and made a mistake. 2013 02:05:09.159 --> 02:05:10.479 Yeah, and he he did it. 2014 02:05:10.640 --> 02:05:15.439 He did make a mistake, and the practice spread throughout 2015 02:05:15.439 --> 02:05:21.039 the monasteries. The Franks in the seventh century had a 2016 02:05:21.119 --> 02:05:25.479 monastic rigor, so the priests and the bishops really looked 2017 02:05:25.640 --> 02:05:32.600 to the monks, and it spread through monasteries throughout Frankia. 2018 02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:37.399 And then as time for grasp and the Carolingians emerged 2019 02:05:37.439 --> 02:05:41.880 to kind of make themselves different from the Byzantine Church, 2020 02:05:43.840 --> 02:05:49.640 big marker was the leaven bread and I believe personally 2021 02:05:49.640 --> 02:05:52.359 the Franks probably had brain ride in that before. 2022 02:05:52.239 --> 02:05:55.279 Making a different Yeah, thank you so much, exactly. 2023 02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:57.640 I'm glad you hopped in because I was trying to 2024 02:05:57.640 --> 02:05:59.600 think of the name and I couldn't think of it. Sean, 2025 02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:03.760 What's hey, Jack didn't hear me. 2026 02:06:04.039 --> 02:06:10.600 Huh yeah. So my grandfather was in the CIA, and 2027 02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:12.560 I'll give you a little backstory real quick. 2028 02:06:12.600 --> 02:06:14.960 I'm glad I actually got to talk to you here 2029 02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:15.279 on it. 2030 02:06:16.640 --> 02:06:19.199 He was originally he joined the United States Marine Corps 2031 02:06:19.319 --> 02:06:21.560 during World War two. World War War two broke out, 2032 02:06:21.800 --> 02:06:25.079 he was a Carlson's Raider, and then after he was 2033 02:06:25.159 --> 02:06:29.199 a Carlson's Raider, he was presidential guard to Truman. Then 2034 02:06:29.239 --> 02:06:33.560 after that he was ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and then 2035 02:06:33.560 --> 02:06:36.399 he went into the CIA as a field agent, and 2036 02:06:36.520 --> 02:06:38.680 he was one of those guys he would have a 2037 02:06:38.800 --> 02:06:42.399 hand of briefcase handcuffed to him and he would travel 2038 02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:45.760 all over the world as a diplomatic carrier, taking documents 2039 02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:50.279 to wherever they needed to go. So, during the time 2040 02:06:50.319 --> 02:06:54.119 of the Kennedy assassination, my grandfather and my dad and 2041 02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:55.239 my uncle, they were. 2042 02:06:55.079 --> 02:06:56.600 Like twelve and fourteen years old. 2043 02:06:57.039 --> 02:07:00.199 They came down to Dallas for like two days ate 2044 02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:02.279 in the hotel room, my dad and my uncle, and 2045 02:07:02.319 --> 02:07:03.840 then my grandfather. 2046 02:07:03.439 --> 02:07:08.960 Left to go obviously to downtown Dallas. Kennedy got shot. 2047 02:07:09.479 --> 02:07:13.399 My grandfather came back to the hotel, he grabbed my 2048 02:07:13.560 --> 02:07:14.640 dad and my uncle. 2049 02:07:14.479 --> 02:07:16.159 Said never talk about this again. 2050 02:07:16.199 --> 02:07:18.640 And he was in a big panic, and my dad 2051 02:07:18.640 --> 02:07:20.880 said he had all kinds of guns and weapons with him. 2052 02:07:21.520 --> 02:07:23.680 He then faked his death. I think they went to 2053 02:07:23.760 --> 02:07:26.840 New Jersey afterwards, or it might have been South Texas. 2054 02:07:26.960 --> 02:07:29.680 I don't remember exactly, but he faked his death and 2055 02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:32.119 said he had a heart attack and he had a 2056 02:07:32.119 --> 02:07:38.600 death certificate and everything. Your granddad, my grandfather, Yeah, he 2057 02:07:38.640 --> 02:07:39.319 was in the CIA. 2058 02:07:39.479 --> 02:07:41.920 No I heard that part. Who's the he that faked 2059 02:07:41.960 --> 02:07:44.600 his death your granddad, Yeah, my. 2060 02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:48.800 Grandfather, And so he got shot. He was in the CIA. 2061 02:07:49.239 --> 02:07:51.720 He faked his death and disappeared essentially because they killed 2062 02:07:51.720 --> 02:07:55.119 everyone that was involved. And so they went to the 2063 02:07:55.159 --> 02:07:57.760 Bahamas for two years, and my dad said that they 2064 02:07:57.800 --> 02:08:00.279 lived there was the Seven Islands on the Bahama was 2065 02:08:00.319 --> 02:08:02.560 where they hit out right, and there was a boat 2066 02:08:02.600 --> 02:08:04.359 that would come and they would pick up all the 2067 02:08:04.479 --> 02:08:06.920 kids on the Seven Islands and they would have class 2068 02:08:07.079 --> 02:08:07.600 on the boat. 2069 02:08:07.640 --> 02:08:10.279 It was school was on the boat. It was a little, tiny, 2070 02:08:10.720 --> 02:08:11.640 little tiny boat. 2071 02:08:12.439 --> 02:08:16.600 So after about two years things calmed down and my 2072 02:08:16.920 --> 02:08:19.119 grandfather came back to the States with my dad and 2073 02:08:19.239 --> 02:08:24.479 uncle shortly after that. Wherever my dad and uncle were 2074 02:08:25.800 --> 02:08:28.000 two suits came and knocked on the door and said, hey, 2075 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:30.079 your dad died in a car accident. We're going to 2076 02:08:30.159 --> 02:08:32.520 take you and your brother to New York to go 2077 02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:35.520 live with your mom now. And so essentially the government 2078 02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:37.560 just took my dad out, I mean, my grandfather. 2079 02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:39.800 They killed my grandfather as soon as he came back 2080 02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:42.159 to the States. My dad never saw his body. 2081 02:08:42.199 --> 02:08:44.560 He never got to have any of his documents, never 2082 02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:46.159 got to have any of his personal possessions. 2083 02:08:46.199 --> 02:08:48.399 They just took him and took them up to their moms. 2084 02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:51.640 And that was the last time my dad ever saw 2085 02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:52.479 my grandfather. 2086 02:08:52.960 --> 02:08:55.840 And then and you think that was just because of 2087 02:08:56.199 --> 02:09:00.600 knowledge of the events that we're saying, he was there. 2088 02:09:00.720 --> 02:09:02.720 My dad swore up and down that he was one 2089 02:09:02.720 --> 02:09:06.359 of the shooters. And my grandfather was. He was a 2090 02:09:06.439 --> 02:09:07.439 killer for the CIA. 2091 02:09:07.479 --> 02:09:09.840 He was a he was an assassin when he was 2092 02:09:09.880 --> 02:09:13.119 in the Carlson's Raiders. After he would kill the Japanese, 2093 02:09:13.560 --> 02:09:15.239 he would take the butt of his rifle and he 2094 02:09:15.279 --> 02:09:17.800 would smash all their teeth out, and he took all 2095 02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:20.000 their teeth and put him in a jar. And my 2096 02:09:20.119 --> 02:09:22.319 dad said that he would have the teeth on his 2097 02:09:22.520 --> 02:09:23.720 bed mantle in a jar. 2098 02:09:23.800 --> 02:09:26.319 It's like a trophy. And he said he always carried 2099 02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:27.680 two two pistols on him. 2100 02:09:27.680 --> 02:09:30.479 He would out forty five, forty five and a thirty 2101 02:09:30.520 --> 02:09:33.760 eight special and he said he never those pistols never 2102 02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:35.199 left his side, and. 2103 02:09:36.159 --> 02:09:39.199 He's country all the time. 2104 02:09:39.880 --> 02:09:42.640 And he said randomly suits would just on the door 2105 02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:45.760 and they would hand my grandfather a big yellow envelope 2106 02:09:46.000 --> 02:09:48.279 and one time my dad they handed my dad the 2107 02:09:48.359 --> 02:09:49.840 envelopes they give this to your father. 2108 02:09:50.520 --> 02:09:52.199 My dad opened it up one time and was just 2109 02:09:52.279 --> 02:09:53.720 full one hundred dollar bills. You know. 2110 02:09:53.760 --> 02:09:55.840 They were giving him money to do whatever he needed 2111 02:09:55.840 --> 02:09:57.319 to do on the CIA. 2112 02:09:57.640 --> 02:10:00.000 And what's that's crazy? 2113 02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:03.960 What's your take on all the document stuff today? Which 2114 02:10:04.319 --> 02:10:05.439 last night? What you're thoughe on that? 2115 02:10:07.199 --> 02:10:07.399 Man? 2116 02:10:07.520 --> 02:10:10.760 Well, there's so much to it, and there's it's it's 2117 02:10:10.800 --> 02:10:12.880 hard to cipher through it, and everybody has their own 2118 02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:16.399 different opinions. I haven't been following it too much, to 2119 02:10:16.479 --> 02:10:21.199 be honest, but I'm trying to find I try to 2120 02:10:21.239 --> 02:10:24.760 look up the ambassadors for Saudi Arabia because he was 2121 02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:27.640 an ambassador for Saudi Arabia. He was also head of 2122 02:10:27.680 --> 02:10:32.039 security added Embassy in Australia as well and I try 2123 02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:33.880 to look a lot of it up, and I couldn't 2124 02:10:33.920 --> 02:10:36.159 find his name, Don Robert Catlin. 2125 02:10:36.479 --> 02:10:39.439 And I don't know if they just erased his. 2126 02:10:39.439 --> 02:10:43.600 Name from everything or but I'm having trouble finding out it. 2127 02:10:43.640 --> 02:10:45.640 We did my dad when my dad was still around, 2128 02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:47.159 he hit up the Marine Corps and he got a 2129 02:10:47.199 --> 02:10:49.279 bunch of his medals when he was in the Marine Corps. 2130 02:10:49.319 --> 02:10:51.319 And I have those medals to this day in my room. 2131 02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:53.880 But I haven't been. 2132 02:10:53.720 --> 02:10:56.119 Following it so much because it's it's just a lot 2133 02:10:56.159 --> 02:11:00.640 to cipher through, man, And and I don't know, Man, 2134 02:11:00.680 --> 02:11:02.399 I just wanted to get it out there that Don 2135 02:11:02.479 --> 02:11:03.840 Robert Catlan he was. 2136 02:11:04.159 --> 02:11:05.760 He was one of the guys that was there. 2137 02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:09.199 And uh, because there was there was like I think 2138 02:11:09.199 --> 02:11:11.600 there was three shooters and then that there was probably 2139 02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:14.159 three backup shooters. You know they had they had all 2140 02:11:14.239 --> 02:11:16.479 kinds of backup plans. They like they were going to 2141 02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:17.479 kill him no matter what. 2142 02:11:17.680 --> 02:11:18.319 You know what I mean. 2143 02:11:20.159 --> 02:11:22.800 Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, I appreciate you. Uh you're 2144 02:11:22.800 --> 02:11:27.479 bringing that that story. That's wild. Yeah. They're saying that 2145 02:11:27.520 --> 02:11:31.039 this the search function doesn't work very well. Uh, and 2146 02:11:31.159 --> 02:11:33.199 I mean it makes sense, like the documents are really 2147 02:11:33.439 --> 02:11:35.960 hard to decipher in some cases. Eric, what's up, man, 2148 02:11:38.520 --> 02:11:40.399 I'm still trying to get these Roman callities to come in. 2149 02:11:40.319 --> 02:11:44.439 Here, yo yo yo, uh huh. Yeah. 2150 02:11:44.520 --> 02:11:48.479 So I'm actually gonna be going to Roman Catholic Inquiry tomorrow, 2151 02:11:48.680 --> 02:11:51.279 probably the last one, since I'm kind of going back 2152 02:11:51.319 --> 02:11:54.760 and forth between Orthodox and Roman Catholic but pretty sold 2153 02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:56.279 on Orthodox and I've. 2154 02:11:56.119 --> 02:11:57.960 Been living the church I've been going to in Franklin. 2155 02:11:58.960 --> 02:12:02.119 But I actually was able to get this this group, 2156 02:12:02.600 --> 02:12:06.840 this inquer group to discuss the difference between Orthodox and 2157 02:12:07.039 --> 02:12:08.079 Roman Catholicism. 2158 02:12:09.079 --> 02:12:09.720 And so. 2159 02:12:11.079 --> 02:12:13.079 I'm just curious, like if you were in that group. 2160 02:12:13.159 --> 02:12:15.720 This is like a Catholic in quer group for anybody 2161 02:12:15.800 --> 02:12:19.399 to come to. It could be an atheist, gnostic, whatever, 2162 02:12:19.439 --> 02:12:23.279 it's for people to come and just ask questions. 2163 02:12:23.439 --> 02:12:25.039 So probably gonna be my last one. 2164 02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:26.800 Wanted to just see what they had to say about 2165 02:12:26.800 --> 02:12:29.840 the you know, kind of their view on Orthodoxy at 2166 02:12:29.880 --> 02:12:33.439 Eastern Orthodoxy. So what would be some good questions to ask? 2167 02:12:34.399 --> 02:12:36.479 Like if you had all the knowledge that you had 2168 02:12:36.840 --> 02:12:39.319 and you were there, you know, I don't know as 2169 02:12:39.359 --> 02:12:40.680 much as you do, not even close. 2170 02:12:41.279 --> 02:12:46.520 Yeah, I would say I would watch my video one 2171 02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:52.199 dogmatic contradiction that ends Rome. How can it be necessary 2172 02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:55.760 to believe in the temporal supremacy of the Roman bishop 2173 02:12:56.319 --> 02:13:00.479 for salvation in thirteen eighty two or whatever them sunk 2174 02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:03.640 them and after Vatican Two that's no longer necessary for salvation? 2175 02:13:03.720 --> 02:13:05.840 How is that not a contradiction in dogma? 2176 02:13:06.119 --> 02:13:06.479 Snake? 2177 02:13:08.640 --> 02:13:10.760 None of these people will come to this romanc other 2178 02:13:10.840 --> 02:13:14.039 guy says, I'm eating, I don't have time for this. Yeah, 2179 02:13:14.079 --> 02:13:17.039 so he can sit there. He considered tweeting, and all 2180 02:13:17.039 --> 02:13:19.039 these other guys are like, oh, I'm at work. Oh, 2181 02:13:19.119 --> 02:13:20.880 you can tweet all day, but you can't just hop 2182 02:13:20.920 --> 02:13:22.680 onto space and defend your positions. 2183 02:13:22.840 --> 02:13:23.479 What's up, man? 2184 02:13:24.680 --> 02:13:24.840 Good? 2185 02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:26.920 How about you? I'm good. 2186 02:13:28.119 --> 02:13:28.359 Yeah. 2187 02:13:28.399 --> 02:13:32.119 So I've been looking into a book from William Satui 2188 02:13:32.199 --> 02:13:38.640 on like the CIA's influence on like Japanese media, like manga, 2189 02:13:38.720 --> 02:13:41.439 anime and all this other stuff, and it seems like 2190 02:13:42.399 --> 02:13:45.439 there's this huge like proponent to like push like Western 2191 02:13:45.520 --> 02:13:47.239 feminism in pot Oh. 2192 02:13:47.239 --> 02:13:49.279 Wow, what's the book? I never heard of this. It 2193 02:13:49.359 --> 02:13:50.520 sounds interesting. 2194 02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:53.039 I don't know much about I don't know much about 2195 02:13:53.039 --> 02:13:53.880 the CIA in Japan. 2196 02:13:54.000 --> 02:13:54.880 So what's the book? 2197 02:13:55.960 --> 02:13:59.359 Uh, it's the Culture Cold War the CI in World 2198 02:13:59.439 --> 02:14:00.039 of Marks. 2199 02:13:59.800 --> 02:14:03.800 And oh, you're talking about the Francis Sanders Saunder's book. 2200 02:14:03.399 --> 02:14:05.479 And one by William Sisui. 2201 02:14:06.159 --> 02:14:09.399 Yeah, no, I have the Saunders. But what's about William 2202 02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:11.720 What William M. 2203 02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:13.800 Susui? Media control? 2204 02:14:14.000 --> 02:14:14.720 Can you spell that? 2205 02:14:16.680 --> 02:14:22.439 Uh? T s u T s u I first name? William? 2206 02:14:22.680 --> 02:14:24.479 Got it and it's media control? 2207 02:14:25.279 --> 02:14:26.000 Yeah. 2208 02:14:26.079 --> 02:14:26.520 Perfect. 2209 02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:31.199 And it looks like he has like a bunch of 2210 02:14:32.000 --> 02:14:36.520 papers posted in like academic journals and stuff in Japanese studies. 2211 02:14:36.840 --> 02:14:37.239 Interesting. 2212 02:14:37.319 --> 02:14:42.720 Yeah, and I'll definitely get that. Appreciate that recommendation. We 2213 02:14:42.800 --> 02:14:57.720 got to come more super chats here. Evan g D 2214 02:14:57.960 --> 02:15:00.880 five dollars. What are your thoughts on Gamatri in things 2215 02:15:00.960 --> 02:15:04.039 like event two to one? I don't think there's anything 2216 02:15:04.079 --> 02:15:06.640 to do with Gimautria and any of that stuff. Clown 2217 02:15:06.640 --> 02:15:08.760 Mode five dollars, Thank you for your content. Thank you 2218 02:15:08.800 --> 02:15:10.199 so much. Alex D. 2219 02:15:10.319 --> 02:15:10.800 Five bucks. 2220 02:15:10.840 --> 02:15:13.880 What does Saint Paul mean in First Corinthians six two 2221 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:15.760 to three when he says the saints will judge the 2222 02:15:15.760 --> 02:15:20.159 world and the angels. It's part of deification. So if 2223 02:15:20.199 --> 02:15:23.560 you look up and study Orthodox doctrine of theosis, we 2224 02:15:23.600 --> 02:15:26.960 are created to be raised by a grace by uncreated 2225 02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:30.000 grace to an even higher state than the angels, such 2226 02:15:30.039 --> 02:15:33.039 that in the ascton we will even judge the angels, 2227 02:15:33.039 --> 02:15:37.119 according to Paul, So it's a theosis deification text. 2228 02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:40.520 JB. Peltier ten dollars. This is unsolicited. 2229 02:15:40.560 --> 02:15:43.960 I found out this morning a various pious gentleman from 2230 02:15:43.960 --> 02:15:47.520 my parish that is named Augustine had passed away from 2231 02:15:47.680 --> 02:15:51.079 heart issues. Everyone, would you please keep him in your prayers. 2232 02:15:51.079 --> 02:15:54.560 I'm sorry to hear that, man, but yeah, I understand. 2233 02:15:54.600 --> 02:15:57.239 You know, we just lost two people close to us 2234 02:15:57.279 --> 02:16:00.279 as well, so you know, I know how different hope 2235 02:16:00.319 --> 02:16:02.640 that is. You'll feel really bad for a few days 2236 02:16:02.680 --> 02:16:05.239 and then it'll kind of it'll ease up and you'll 2237 02:16:05.279 --> 02:16:10.319 you'll feel better. But you know, death is defeated, so 2238 02:16:10.359 --> 02:16:13.680 we're not supposed to be even afraid of death. Uh, 2239 02:16:15.439 --> 02:16:18.600 all right, the last chances for anybody who's gonna call in, 2240 02:16:18.760 --> 02:16:22.119 none of these people would even come close to doing it, 2241 02:16:22.239 --> 02:16:27.239 So as usual, waste of time. But you know what 2242 02:16:27.319 --> 02:16:29.359 I've I've I should have learned my lesson to never 2243 02:16:29.520 --> 02:16:35.399 even invite a person with cartoon PfP, anime PfP. They're 2244 02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:40.040 always just the worst, So I don't know what I 2245 02:16:40.079 --> 02:16:40.680 was expecting. 2246 02:16:41.520 --> 02:16:42.600 Card or Carl. 2247 02:16:42.600 --> 02:16:43.440 Excuse me? What's up? 2248 02:16:43.479 --> 02:16:51.159 Carl Coral? 2249 02:16:52.799 --> 02:16:54.840 We're going full walking dead up in. 2250 02:16:54.639 --> 02:17:05.200 Here, Coral, Rick, Coral, Carl can't can anybody else? 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As you guys know, it's 2262 02:17:35.440 --> 02:17:39.280 complete and it should be out in the next couple 2263 02:17:39.319 --> 02:17:43.239 of months. Let's see it maybe three months. Best case 2264 02:17:43.280 --> 02:17:46.600 scenario if you guys would hit like and share. Thank 2265 02:17:46.639 --> 02:17:56.479 you so much for the donations and your generosities. Clown 2266 02:17:56.520 --> 02:17:58.680 mode five dollars. Thank you for your content. I can't 2267 02:17:58.719 --> 02:18:05.399 refer to that or not. Okay, here's let's see Hasani. 2268 02:18:05.479 --> 02:18:10.399 What's up, dude? He was what's on your mind? 2269 02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:11.040 Hey? 2270 02:18:11.159 --> 02:18:13.239 Yeah, sorry if if I'm a little too low, I'm 2271 02:18:13.360 --> 02:18:15.479 coming down with something, so I might not tell him 2272 02:18:15.479 --> 02:18:18.680 like I don't really do it'll be it'll be quick anyway. 2273 02:18:19.000 --> 02:18:22.639 I just wanted to see if, like I understand why, 2274 02:18:23.399 --> 02:18:25.159 you know, like Tristan hasn't wanted to, you know, like 2275 02:18:25.200 --> 02:18:27.639 do the whole online thing for a while or you know, at. 2276 02:18:27.639 --> 02:18:30.319 Least that's what I remember you that's because he got 2277 02:18:30.360 --> 02:18:32.520 demolished in rap battles by me, so he. 2278 02:18:32.600 --> 02:18:36.040 Quick what's his name little aids? 2279 02:18:36.159 --> 02:18:36.319 Yeah? 2280 02:18:36.360 --> 02:18:38.959 Yeah, you young boomers. 2281 02:18:39.040 --> 02:18:42.000 Yeah, but I mean something like this, I know this, 2282 02:18:42.120 --> 02:18:45.559 a riddle like this, something like this should really I 2283 02:18:45.559 --> 02:18:47.360 don't know, maybe get him excited toob on the stream 2284 02:18:47.399 --> 02:18:48.920 or something to see if you can put something together 2285 02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:50.920 with him or or whatever. 2286 02:18:50.959 --> 02:18:52.440 Well, I think they just had they just had a 2287 02:18:52.440 --> 02:18:55.239 new baby, so he's, uh, you know, he's been tending 2288 02:18:55.280 --> 02:18:59.120 to their their new congratu. 2289 02:19:00.120 --> 02:19:02.719 Yeah, I did see that both your Yeah, definitely can 2290 02:19:02.760 --> 02:19:03.760 rest them. 2291 02:19:04.680 --> 02:19:05.799 That was pretty much all I had. 2292 02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:06.040 Man. 2293 02:19:06.399 --> 02:19:07.959 Yeah, I'll try to get Tristan back on their I 2294 02:19:07.959 --> 02:19:10.280 appreciate that. Carl, what's up? And you will try again. 2295 02:19:11.399 --> 02:19:14.399 We'll see if you get Tristan to come yap it up, 2296 02:19:15.200 --> 02:19:15.840 mix it up. 2297 02:19:17.319 --> 02:19:23.000 Hello, Hey, all right, I have a question on the filioquid. 2298 02:19:24.239 --> 02:19:28.719 Okay, So I understand that it subordinates the Holy Spirit 2299 02:19:28.959 --> 02:19:31.280 because he doesn't share a property that the. 2300 02:19:31.239 --> 02:19:32.079 Father and the Son do. 2301 02:19:33.319 --> 02:19:36.920 What I'm having trouble trying to wrap my brain around 2302 02:19:37.239 --> 02:19:42.840 is how we categorize hypostatic properties and why they're only 2303 02:19:43.079 --> 02:19:44.479 in the positive. 2304 02:19:46.479 --> 02:19:51.479 Well, because they pick out the unique positive characteristic of 2305 02:19:51.520 --> 02:19:56.079 that person, So they couldn't be merely negative, you know, 2306 02:19:56.280 --> 02:20:00.399 lacking attributes, because if you think about it, like each 2307 02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:06.159 person has infinite lacking attributes, right, the Father is not 2308 02:20:07.520 --> 02:20:11.760 Michael Lee Archangel. The Father is not Bob the Mechanic. 2309 02:20:12.200 --> 02:20:17.920 So a negative attribute saying what it's not doesn't tell 2310 02:20:17.959 --> 02:20:23.120 you hardly anything about what it is. And typically negative 2311 02:20:23.120 --> 02:20:28.239 attribution or apapatic theology or via via negativa is what's 2312 02:20:28.280 --> 02:20:31.000 applied to the divine essence, not the divine persons. So 2313 02:20:31.040 --> 02:20:34.959 when we want to pick out persons, we need characteristics 2314 02:20:35.079 --> 02:20:38.959 or categories or properties that tell us some kind of 2315 02:20:39.079 --> 02:20:43.360 positive cataphatic value or content as to what they actually 2316 02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:46.559 are or who they actually are. So when we speak 2317 02:20:46.600 --> 02:20:49.959 of Father, the Cavedocians are pretty unanimous that the father 2318 02:20:50.120 --> 02:20:56.959 is identified as source found, RK, N RK, cause, et cetera. Okay, 2319 02:20:57.680 --> 02:21:02.760 so if that uniquely picks out well his positive characteristic 2320 02:21:02.879 --> 02:21:06.479 of who he is as the person, then that cannot 2321 02:21:06.520 --> 02:21:10.319 be shared because the campetition dictum is that a hypostatic 2322 02:21:10.360 --> 02:21:13.120 property cannot be shared because it's unique to the person, 2323 02:21:13.799 --> 02:21:17.479 but any other property must be shared because it's a 2324 02:21:17.520 --> 02:21:22.239 common attribute of essence. So for example, divine love, divine 2325 02:21:22.280 --> 02:21:25.440 love doesn't pick out one person because the father has love, 2326 02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:27.879 the son has love, the spirit has love. So love 2327 02:21:28.000 --> 02:21:32.040 is an attribute common to the triad, not a hyposthetic property, 2328 02:21:32.159 --> 02:21:35.719 but to be generated is a unique property of the son. 2329 02:21:35.959 --> 02:21:36.399 You see. 2330 02:21:37.559 --> 02:21:39.799 Yeah that makes sense. Actually, thank you? Sure? 2331 02:21:40.120 --> 02:21:40.479 Is that all? 2332 02:21:41.479 --> 02:21:41.639 Yep? 2333 02:21:41.719 --> 02:21:44.200 Thank you for your patience anytime. Yeah, that's a great question. 2334 02:21:44.200 --> 02:21:47.280 I appreciate you being a patient about the question because 2335 02:21:47.280 --> 02:21:54.959 a lot of people are fussy about this malignant and 2336 02:21:55.040 --> 02:21:59.079 he dropped off. So anybody want to come back, Any 2337 02:22:00.120 --> 02:22:03.159 Roman Catholics, any Tradcats, any people who want to discuss 2338 02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:07.639 the topics listed, any anybody else about the JFK stuff. 2339 02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:14.680 So notice the Roman Catholics, He says, I'm you're single 2340 02:22:14.719 --> 02:22:18.360 and childless. So I'm not going to come talk to you. Well, 2341 02:22:18.360 --> 02:22:36.760 actually I'm married. So this is all they have? The 2342 02:22:36.799 --> 02:22:39.159 Godfather three in John Courtney Murray. There's actually quite a 2343 02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:41.239 few books. I mean it's not just those two books. 2344 02:22:41.239 --> 02:22:43.959 There's many books, but I mean those are the books 2345 02:22:43.959 --> 02:22:47.040 that kind of focus on these issues. Lost hedgem On 2346 02:22:47.159 --> 02:22:52.639 by Ingdahl also gets into intelligence usage of religious schools 2347 02:22:52.680 --> 02:22:56.559 and networks, and not just I mean Ingdall's book's not 2348 02:22:56.639 --> 02:22:58.440 really dealing with the Roman Catholics. He's dealing with like 2349 02:22:58.520 --> 02:23:05.799 evangelicals and Islamic networks like the Fetula goul In networks. 2350 02:23:06.840 --> 02:23:09.639 Solid Snake ten dollars. Thank you for having me on 2351 02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:13.520 the space. I love the content, by the way, quote 2352 02:23:13.639 --> 02:23:19.479 quoting Bryson Gray, what that is? Eb ten dollars. I 2353 02:23:19.559 --> 02:23:22.719 recommended that you watch the anime one Piece yesterday. Write 2354 02:23:22.760 --> 02:23:26.280 down in the notes that that you wrote one Piece 2355 02:23:26.639 --> 02:23:27.639 fan edit. 2356 02:23:29.639 --> 02:23:30.200 Writing that down. 2357 02:23:30.280 --> 02:23:37.840 Now watch the original Japanese dub and watch up. 2358 02:23:37.680 --> 02:23:52.719 Through the lobby arc. Okay, mark three dollars, go go 2359 02:23:52.879 --> 02:23:56.719 one more back up, Go one more back up. 2360 02:23:57.760 --> 02:24:01.840 What are your thoughts if the driver was the shooter? 2361 02:24:02.000 --> 02:24:04.200 Do you mean one more backup? I don't know what 2362 02:24:04.200 --> 02:24:11.479 you mean one more backup here. I don't know anything, 2363 02:24:11.680 --> 02:24:14.840 Like I've not looked into the ballistics of what went 2364 02:24:14.920 --> 02:24:15.520 down that day. 2365 02:24:15.559 --> 02:24:19.799 I have no idea. 2366 02:24:20.600 --> 02:24:22.520 You would probably want to look into some you know, 2367 02:24:22.600 --> 02:24:28.399 like legit JFK researchers that would go into all that stuff. 2368 02:24:29.000 --> 02:24:30.600 I usually, you know, it's it's kind of like the 2369 02:24:30.600 --> 02:24:32.920 Big Nine event. People get all into. 2370 02:24:32.760 --> 02:24:37.280 Like the what were the seismic registers on the day 2371 02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:41.479 of the Big nine event? And what about this thermic nanotech? 2372 02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:43.680 Like I don't know about thermite nanotech. I don't know 2373 02:24:43.719 --> 02:24:47.079 about seismic registers, but I can read the geopolitical stuff 2374 02:24:47.079 --> 02:24:49.360 that lets me figure out, Okay, who stands to gain 2375 02:24:49.479 --> 02:24:50.760 from the Big nine event? 2376 02:24:50.879 --> 02:24:52.159 Like, to me, that's way. 2377 02:24:51.959 --> 02:24:56.360 More interesting than getting all into this like the technicalities 2378 02:24:56.399 --> 02:24:57.920 of whatever. 2379 02:25:09.319 --> 02:25:11.399 Not a single Roman Catholic would come discuss this stuff. 2380 02:25:11.440 --> 02:25:15.799 That's pretty sad. Actually, that's it makes perfect sense, though. 2381 02:25:16.319 --> 02:25:18.440 I think we did have one Catholic in you're asking questions, 2382 02:25:18.440 --> 02:25:21.159 So props to that dude. But just everybody again take 2383 02:25:21.280 --> 02:25:24.520 note that like none of them will we'll touch this 2384 02:25:24.719 --> 02:25:28.680 this subject. I'll here's somebody Joseph, what's up? 2385 02:25:29.680 --> 02:25:38.319 Hyeah, what's up? 2386 02:25:39.760 --> 02:25:40.799 Oh g how are. 2387 02:25:42.719 --> 02:25:42.760 I? 2388 02:25:42.879 --> 02:25:43.399 Well? Thanks? 2389 02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:46.360 I think your voice seems a little bit maybe it's 2390 02:25:46.479 --> 02:25:48.719 an issue from my side, it seems what. 2391 02:25:51.200 --> 02:25:56.680 Just the moment, Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah? 2392 02:25:56.879 --> 02:26:01.920 My my pustion is uh, I want to my thinking process, Uh, 2393 02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:06.840 is it for those who object to the eternal generation 2394 02:26:07.200 --> 02:26:09.040 and procession of the son of the Holy Spirit? 2395 02:26:09.200 --> 02:26:10.840 Is it Is it a. 2396 02:26:10.680 --> 02:26:16.000 Fair way to tackle that issue from by raising an 2397 02:26:16.040 --> 02:26:20.680 equal objection to the eternal activity of the attributes of God? So, 2398 02:26:20.959 --> 02:26:25.959 my my thinking process is if because because the objection. 2399 02:26:25.840 --> 02:26:27.799 Implies that if we say the sun is. 2400 02:26:27.760 --> 02:26:33.760 Generated and these proceeds eternally, that might imply cause or relationship. 2401 02:26:33.920 --> 02:26:36.559 And for you know, people generally speaking, when they hear 2402 02:26:36.600 --> 02:26:40.959 about coisality or generation, they think that chronologically you are 2403 02:26:41.040 --> 02:26:42.840 not and then at some point in time. 2404 02:26:43.000 --> 02:26:45.120 Yeah, that's the that's the area argument. 2405 02:26:45.200 --> 02:26:45.959 Yeah. 2406 02:26:46.040 --> 02:26:46.280 Yeah. 2407 02:26:46.600 --> 02:26:50.000 So so if if, if if we object to the generation, 2408 02:26:50.120 --> 02:26:54.760 the eternal generation and procession, then I think it is 2409 02:26:54.840 --> 02:26:58.719 equally objectionable to raise that same objection to the eternal 2410 02:26:58.840 --> 02:27:02.040 activity of the actress God because we have to ask 2411 02:27:02.159 --> 02:27:05.760 at what point in time God's attribute became active. 2412 02:27:06.399 --> 02:27:07.600 Yeah, I've made this point. 2413 02:27:07.639 --> 02:27:12.840 Yeah, this is why Unitarianism has difficulties that usually end 2414 02:27:12.920 --> 02:27:17.200 up making some of the divine attributes contingent and necessary 2415 02:27:17.639 --> 02:27:18.799 upon a created order. 2416 02:27:20.479 --> 02:27:24.079 Okay, so you think it's a fair edgition to to 2417 02:27:24.079 --> 02:27:24.520 to ask. 2418 02:27:24.399 --> 02:27:25.879 Them, Yeah you can go in that Yeah, you can 2419 02:27:25.879 --> 02:27:28.520 go in that direction. It's just that good luck trying 2420 02:27:28.520 --> 02:27:32.159 to convince a Unitarian of understanding the argument. 2421 02:27:33.399 --> 02:27:36.879 Okay, man, all right, yeah, but I. 2422 02:27:36.799 --> 02:27:38.639 Think you're right, you're on the right track. Yeah, we've 2423 02:27:38.680 --> 02:27:41.559 had some we've had some discussions in the bat with 2424 02:27:42.879 --> 02:27:45.920 in the back in the back a few years ago 2425 02:27:46.000 --> 02:27:55.280 where we went that route. So all right, cool beans, dude, 2426 02:27:55.319 --> 02:27:57.559 Thank you guys, A lot of fun today, great conversation. 2427 02:27:57.639 --> 02:28:00.840 Thank you guys for your recommendations, good questions. Nobody was 2428 02:28:02.200 --> 02:28:04.559 all the insane people never came to the debate or 2429 02:28:04.600 --> 02:28:08.000 to the chat, so that made it very cool and peaceful. 2430 02:28:09.079 --> 02:28:09.120 H