Speaker 1: Read step by step how it happened. But there are
Speaker 1: quite a few interesting details in the documents so far.
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, too, we don't have all of
Speaker 1: the documents yet. As I understand, there's still about a
Speaker 1: third that are being still withheld, so there might still
Speaker 1: be another.
Speaker 2: Cachet.
Speaker 1: Also, we learn that certain search terms don't work very well.
Speaker 1: So let's go over here too. And when a lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying, oh, we already knew all this
Speaker 1: and this was already out there, it's true. So some
Speaker 1: of these documents probably were all ready to classify. But
Speaker 1: keep in mind, I mean, you can only do so
Speaker 1: much in twenty four hours with eighty thousand pages or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and most people don't have time to
Speaker 1: read this. People are saying, oh, let's put it into
Speaker 1: you know, chat GBT or figure out some AI or
Speaker 1: program or whatever. Well, it's a lot of these documents
Speaker 1: are really difficult to read because of the you know,
Speaker 1: old print and the typewriters, et cetera. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: try our best to kind of walk through.
Speaker 2: The ones that.
Speaker 1: I found from what was going around on Twitter that
Speaker 1: were the most interesting and the most relevant. I'll save
Speaker 1: the hottest of those towards the end, but that also
Speaker 1: was something pretty much well known in regard to James
Speaker 1: Jesus Angleton, who was you know, very close to Israel,
Speaker 1: had back channels with Israeli intelligence, and those those elements,
Speaker 1: those four or five pages so far are pretty relevant.
Speaker 1: They're pretty pretty important because they do establish a lot
Speaker 1: of what Piper and Roger Stone have talked about in
Speaker 1: their text. But there's also other connections that are very
Speaker 1: fascinating that, as you know, vindicate a lot of what
Speaker 1: we've been looking into for the last several years. And
Speaker 1: this relates to, you know, my own background being in
Speaker 1: the world of Catholicism, and so a lot of Roman
Speaker 1: Catholics get really mad today but will not come on
Speaker 1: and discuss or debated. I've asked one of the larger
Speaker 1: set of a contest apparently set of a contest profiles.
Speaker 2: They ran away, they blocked me.
Speaker 1: They won't come debate, but I still shared it. If
Speaker 1: any of them want to come and discuss this, they're
Speaker 1: welcome to bring their information. And my chief source on
Speaker 1: this is of course the famous Roman Catholic lawyer and
Speaker 1: traditional writer David Wimhoff, who wrote this excellent, massive tone.
Speaker 2: It's about eight hundred pages.
Speaker 1: It's almost a thousand, so a thousand page tome here
Speaker 1: John Courtney, Murray, Time Life Magazine, and the American Proposition.
Speaker 1: And Weimoff's book is exceedingly well documented. I think he
Speaker 1: has about eight hundred ish footnotes, and he really just
Speaker 1: goes through even a lot of the material that you've
Speaker 1: heard me cover, setting the stage for the papacy in
Speaker 1: the twentieth century and how we got to Vatican two.
Speaker 1: He goes through the Quigly text as you've heard me
Speaker 1: do for many years.
Speaker 2: So this is actually a.
Speaker 1: Really good kind of an addition to the Quigly texts. Now,
Speaker 1: in regard to Gladio, people were saying, oh, you've only
Speaker 1: read one book on Gladio. No, I've read multiple books
Speaker 1: on Gladio. But I don't even consider that I'm.
Speaker 2: Some Gladio expert.
Speaker 1: It's not like I can, it's not like I just
Speaker 1: like everything's tending on my views of Gladio. And I
Speaker 1: listed a lot of these texts. You know, First of all,
Speaker 1: the first time I heard of this was about twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: maybe earlier, from fle Wingdahll Wingdall Flee Mingdahl Full Spectrum Dominance.
Speaker 1: And then there is of course Daniel Ganser's thesis. It
Speaker 1: looks like a PhD thesis. I think NATO's Secret Army
Speaker 1: by doctor Ganter. There is Paul Williams's text Operation Gladio.
Speaker 1: And we also covered the John Kaylor text which was
Speaker 1: about spies in the Vatican.
Speaker 2: That he's a.
Speaker 1: CIA writer writing about the history of the CIA in
Speaker 1: the Vatican.
Speaker 2: And I've covered many.
Speaker 1: Other texts, so I have a long time spent in
Speaker 1: this subject matter. Again, this one's a thousand pages. And
Speaker 1: even that I don't still don't even think, oh, that
Speaker 1: makes me an expert. I'm not a subject matter expert.
Speaker 1: And Gladio I don't even think that. Don't even claim that.
Speaker 1: I've got other books that are conspiracy texts that I've
Speaker 1: read too, like John Coleman's text that covered Gladio before
Speaker 1: it was known as Gladio, as as I did with
Speaker 1: I don't have this book at this house, but God's
Speaker 1: Banker it also covered Gladio before it was known as Gladio.
Speaker 1: And so when people want to just talk smack on
Speaker 1: the internet and they won't come defend their positions to me,
Speaker 1: it's just a signal of attention seeking or just completely
Speaker 1: just total weakness. And you guys know, I've been asking
Speaker 1: for about two years for any prominent Roman Catholics. I've
Speaker 1: reached out to historians, I've reached out to professors. I've
Speaker 1: asked Trent Horne to suggest other people since he won't
Speaker 1: do it to debate the geopolitics of the papacy. Know,
Speaker 1: one of these guys making a big fuss on the
Speaker 1: internet on his blog claims he's a papal historian, but
Speaker 1: he won't come debate it. So they all love to
Speaker 1: talk smack and say, oh, he's only read one book.
Speaker 1: He thinks he's an expert.
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm an expert. In fact, if you
Speaker 1: got information that would correct any of my theories, I'm
Speaker 1: more than willing to be corrected on it. Welcome every
Speaker 1: big eleven hundred. But what we're going to see.
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 1: What was discussed in a lot of the Gladio literature
Speaker 1: is once again backed up, and not just the Gladio idea,
Speaker 1: but in fact the usage of the Roman Catholic Church
Speaker 1: by the CIA during the Old War as a as
Speaker 1: a sort of a form of soft power, I think
Speaker 1: is the best way to put it.
Speaker 2: And so again, a lot of.
Speaker 1: These documents are really difficult to decode, and probably over
Speaker 1: time people will be able to piece together more. But
Speaker 1: the first one I noticed it was interesting was this one.
Speaker 1: So let's take a look at this. Maybe I should
Speaker 1: make the screen bigger. And this one talks about the
Speaker 1: CIA exploiting its connections. I can't even read that. You'll
Speaker 1: notice most relevant is the last section, which says with
Speaker 1: which CIA has exploitable access in regard to the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church in these certain nations. Now, remember for most Normies,
Speaker 1: or for most Roman Catholics, or even Tridcats, they think
Speaker 1: this is actually outlandish. They think that, oh, you're a
Speaker 1: KGB Orthodox bro. Look, both large churches, Roman Catholic Orthodox
Speaker 1: will have this type of religious infiltration and subversion. And
Speaker 1: so the Roman Catholics who are saying that I don't
Speaker 1: talk about this in Orthodox, it's just completely not true.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed subject matter experts on this. Metropolitan Jonah knows
Speaker 1: the history of the r Russian Church very well. We
Speaker 1: have an entire hour and a half two hour interview
Speaker 1: on this subject.
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 1: Done multiple podcasts over the years, including multiple interviews with
Speaker 1: Jim Jatras on the subversion of the ecumenical patriarch. Somebody
Speaker 1: keeps you're welcome to come speak that. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you're going emoji crazy anytime I see if somebody going
Speaker 1: emoji crazy, Cajun, stay them, you want to come talk,
Speaker 1: you're going emoji nuts.
Speaker 2: I'm ready. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's have a debate on this subject. Nobody will ever
Speaker 1: come to bate me on the geopolitical stuff. That's interesting. Cajun,
Speaker 1: stay them, what's up? Come on, look, I want people
Speaker 1: to come to debate, and we're gonna have open discussion.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the role of the sea, the papacy,
Speaker 1: foreign nations, which I just did an entire three hour
Speaker 1: lecture on the other end.
Speaker 5: You don't ever talk about Middle Eastern countries. Oh really,
Speaker 5: I just did a three.
Speaker 2: Hour lecture on their intelligence services the other night. You
Speaker 2: don't ever talk the boy come and discuss man.
Speaker 1: He ran away, so they emojimy and then they run
Speaker 1: away Cajun, which that means he's got to be Catholic
Speaker 1: if he's Cajun.
Speaker 2: And then he runs away. So that's what you give
Speaker 2: with these people.
Speaker 1: None of these Roman Catholics, not one of them in
Speaker 1: two years, can come defend the papacy's tie ins at
Speaker 1: a geopolitical level with the intelligence agencies and the corruption
Speaker 1: of the Vatican Bank and the money laundering in things
Speaker 1: like Ladio.
Speaker 2: Even their historians don't want to come defend it.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Every time I bring this up that they say, oh,
Speaker 1: why are you ignoring your own church's problems, the Orthodox
Speaker 1: Church with KGB. No, No, do you understand I've already
Speaker 1: done podcasts and discussions about the EP even in the
Speaker 1: Cold War Athenagoras and others working with the OSS and
Speaker 1: the CIA when those documents were declassified. So it's people
Speaker 1: have no knowledge of these subjects and just want to
Speaker 1: whine and bitch when we've covered the actual declassified cables
Speaker 1: where they're talking to Dulles and the OSS. What are
Speaker 1: you what are you talking about? So it's like the
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic world is just full of idiots, total idiots.
Speaker 2: And one of the ways that we.
Speaker 1: Hammered home the Gladio situation was if you remember in
Speaker 1: the videos that we did a couple years ago and
Speaker 1: the role the CIA and the papacyat I didn't just
Speaker 1: read the critical assessment from Catholic author Wim Hoff. I
Speaker 1: read a positive assessment from CIA writer John Kaylor, and
Speaker 1: we did a whole lecture on that book, and then
Speaker 1: we compared it to the anti CIA assessments of Gancer.
Speaker 2: And Paul Williams.
Speaker 1: Paulliams is also Catholic, or at least he was. I
Speaker 1: think he's left Catholicism now or doesn't believe it anymore.
Speaker 1: So it's just totally not true that like these people
Speaker 1: just have no idea. Whe they're talking, there's whining and bitching.
Speaker 1: It's really annoying too, because if they were to come
Speaker 1: and debate for about five minutes, they would get demolished.
Speaker 1: Cryptic enigma. We're going to go through these documents, but
Speaker 1: this guy's already wanted debate.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 7: I'm mute, dude, Hello, Yeah, I like your stuck man.
Speaker 8: You have a really interesting take about that, like what
Speaker 8: you're going on with the Roman Catholic and the CIA
Speaker 8: and ties and all that.
Speaker 9: So I am.
Speaker 8: Roman Catholic, but I'm just trying to find out what
Speaker 8: if you could go into.
Speaker 4: Your position a little bit more.
Speaker 8: I'm not disagreeing with you that there's corruption, and I
Speaker 8: mean there's corruption in any institution. And are you saying
Speaker 8: that any corruption or the amount of corruption eventually discredits
Speaker 8: an institution like especially like the papacy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you can go into a little bit right.
Speaker 1: So, No, the argument is not that corruption is the problem.
Speaker 1: The argument is that in the Roman Catholic system, the
Speaker 1: papacy is the foundation of the church. But now wait
Speaker 1: a minute, if the papacy is being influenced by outside
Speaker 1: forces like the CIA in terms of who they elect,
Speaker 1: then I want to pose a new argument that I
Speaker 1: have crafted this morning about this in regard to the papacy,
Speaker 1: because you'll get different answers from Roman Catholics about the
Speaker 1: question of is the decision of the pope by the
Speaker 1: cardinals of the Holy Spirit is it an infallible magisterial decision?
Speaker 1: Because if it is, then we have to deal with
Speaker 1: the problem that many Roman Catholic apologists and even Benedic
Speaker 1: the sixteenth brings up. Well, then why did the Holy
Speaker 1: Spirit in so many papal elections choose already known corruptible
Speaker 1: or a corrupted evil men. And secondly, if it's not
Speaker 1: magisterial then if a fallible pope is elected, if the
Speaker 1: decision of the papacy itself is fallible, then by definition,
Speaker 1: all of the actions that he's doing would also then
Speaker 1: potentially be fallible. So it seems to me that if
Speaker 1: you wanted to argue that the magistering of the papacy
Speaker 1: is infallible, you would also need to have infallible decisions
Speaker 1: to choose that pope. Otherwise you could always conceivably question
Speaker 1: the election of that pope. So that to me is
Speaker 1: a good example of how if the CIA, for example,
Speaker 1: was deeply involved in helping Paul the Six get elected
Speaker 1: because the CI was concerned about the Cold War pro
Speaker 1: Marxist positions of some of the cardinals that might get elected,
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to believe that? So now, what
Speaker 1: the Holy spirits leading the CIA to help the Vatican
Speaker 1: make these decisions.
Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: So, no, the argument is not applicable to the Orthodox
Speaker 1: Church because we don't have a position like Vatican One
Speaker 1: that says that the papacy is the infallible rock of
Speaker 1: the Church.
Speaker 8: Okay, I kind of do get where you're going. But
Speaker 8: it also seems like there's two different two different ways
Speaker 8: of looking at it. Like it's like you're going in
Speaker 8: the political a sense of like elections and the seats,
Speaker 8: and I get with the.
Speaker 4: Infallibility of the pope.
Speaker 8: And them being elected by other people.
Speaker 4: And basically, in.
Speaker 7: Order to.
Speaker 8: Win, for me to concede too, I'd have to agree
Speaker 8: that people are not flawed and imperfect.
Speaker 1: Or no, it has nothing to do with people being
Speaker 1: flawed and imperfect. It has to do with magisterium and
Speaker 1: what the Roman CALLI church itself defines about the magisterium.
Speaker 1: When the magisterrum decides things, it is infallible and irreformable.
Speaker 1: So it's not about human failings and human weakness because
Speaker 1: everybody believes that. It's not about impeccability. It's about the
Speaker 1: question of indefectibility and infallibility of the magisterium.
Speaker 8: Well, the you're saying basically the people that made the
Speaker 8: magisty room right that that and then everyone's just kind.
Speaker 1: Of made No, it's not what I'm saying. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that your church defines about itself what magisterium is and
Speaker 1: what infallibility and ex cathedral are.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Okay, And you're saying that those current rules right now
Speaker 8: are basically they go against what the Church claims that
Speaker 8: since they're being subverted.
Speaker 2: Your no, they make it.
Speaker 1: There's two different arguments. One argument is about the contradiction
Speaker 1: of a fallible election of an infallible leader. That's one
Speaker 1: argument separate from the question of geopolitical influence of things
Speaker 1: like the CIA and the American deep state in the
Speaker 1: papal elections, and ultimately beyond that with the Vatican Bank
Speaker 1: and it being used to funnel money for black ops.
Speaker 1: So two different things. But I'm just simply saying that
Speaker 1: we'll give you another example. I mean, wim Hoff argues
Speaker 1: that a lot of the ecumenism in Vatican two, like
Speaker 1: in Nosratat, but that's the result of elements of Western
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies, people like John Cortney. Murray was working with
Speaker 1: the CIO on record to get a liberalized document passed
Speaker 1: at Vatican two. So that's another example that it's not
Speaker 1: just weakness and human failings, it's the run macaloity Church
Speaker 1: dogmatizing CIA's ecumenist positions.
Speaker 8: Okay, interesting, I'm kind of a dumb dumb, especially with
Speaker 8: like historicity, but it's an interesting I have to hop
Speaker 8: off I'll be listening.
Speaker 1: In the background.
Speaker 8: But uh yeah, thanks for thanks for askering my questions.
Speaker 2: Going into a.
Speaker 1: Little bit sure again, the book that you would want
Speaker 1: to read is David wim Hoff's magisterial text, John Courtney Murray,
Speaker 1: Timelife Magazine, and the American Proposition. The American Proposition is
Speaker 1: called the Doctrinal Warfare Program. It was declassified in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: I just did a video, a little short video the
Speaker 1: other day covering it that got quite a bit of views.
Speaker 2: But if you go to my channel you'll see then
Speaker 2: I cover.
Speaker 1: It in I don't know, let's see hour and a
Speaker 1: half and then three hours four and a half.
Speaker 2: These are both part two.
Speaker 1: So this is about eight hours on this book that
Speaker 1: I've lectured on this book, if you want to go
Speaker 1: deep into his book now, David Wimoff is a traditional
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic lawyer. He's not an orthodox conspiracy bro. He's
Speaker 1: not a libtard. He's a trad cat, so you guys
Speaker 1: need he goes on trad cat podcast. He's been on
Speaker 1: with Flanders and Marshall or whatever. But it's not just
Speaker 1: tradcat critics like this material. You can find quite a
Speaker 1: bit on it in mainline academic literature. I covered the
Speaker 1: Michael Graziano book Aaron into the Wilderness, which is an
Speaker 1: academic history of the CI's relationship to religion. We did
Speaker 1: a whole lecture on that book. So it's crazy, like
Speaker 1: I lectured through all these books and all you people
Speaker 1: just talk shit on the internet and you can't defend
Speaker 1: any of your positions. And when the declassified documents come out,
Speaker 1: you just act like thirteen year olds and you have
Speaker 1: another breakdown. So what does this document say? This is
Speaker 1: a document just pointing to the CAA during the Cold
Speaker 1: War exploiting its contacts, thank you in the Roman Catholic
Speaker 1: Church in a lot of Latin South American countries. That's
Speaker 1: just one example. Okay, So I found that one interesting.
Speaker 1: That was the first one that I think somebody sent
Speaker 1: me that one.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: The next one that I noticed was interesting was this
Speaker 1: is a line reporting entity called Leading Report. They noticed that,
Speaker 1: and this was already well known if you looked into
Speaker 1: this literature, because of course Jack Ruby is part of
Speaker 1: organized crime and the Middle Eastern intelligence or seeing me,
Speaker 1: the Middle Eastern faction of organized crime. If you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm referring to So Jack Ruby is out of
Speaker 1: that outfit, and he was working, he was a mobster,
Speaker 1: and so the nightclub, if I recall, was Jack Ruby's nightclub.
Speaker 1: So that's in the memos apparently. But this was already
Speaker 1: known and in the JFK research for many years. So
Speaker 1: this is another thing positive that was verified because people.
Speaker 3: Say, oh, it's a dowey if you'd say that Oswald
Speaker 3: was hanging out.
Speaker 1: If I recall, Ruby owned a strip club steakhouse, and
Speaker 1: so wait a minute, why is Lee Harvey Oswald going
Speaker 1: to the steakhouse strip club of the guy who would
Speaker 1: later take him out. Well, it's not hard to figure
Speaker 1: out if you understand the basics of this narrative.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think we have to know.
Speaker 10: We don't.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of it's like the Big Nine event,
Speaker 1: like we don't have to know perfectly every single piece
Speaker 1: of detailed information and regarding regarding this event. Now this
Speaker 1: refers to a lesser known thing which I.
Speaker 2: I don't have.
Speaker 1: I have Michael Collins P's book have my other location.
Speaker 1: It's not in this library, so I can't look it up.
Speaker 2: But he I think you mentioned this.
Speaker 1: I read that book in two thousand and eight, So
Speaker 1: we're like seventeen years out for me reading that book, people.
Speaker 5: Are like, oh, I've been pioneering the role of Middle
Speaker 5: Eastern countries in this JFK thing. Oh really, like when
Speaker 5: I read the book in twenty two thousand and eight,
Speaker 5: and yeah, look, yes, JFK opposed certain Middle Eastern countries
Speaker 5: having a nuclear program.
Speaker 2: Demona, I've known.
Speaker 1: About that since two thousand and eight. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about now? This relates to a network or a
Speaker 1: group of Cubans in Chicago, one of whom is named
Speaker 1: that's a weird name, Ekavaria. Echavaria, Echavaria. And this was
Speaker 1: a investigation memo. This is weird too.
Speaker 2: Because this might have already been declassified. Don't know it says.
Speaker 1: It says declassified seventy six or eight, but it says
Speaker 1: special Agents Tucker and Noonan investigation of the claims of
Speaker 1: Echavaria and Ekavaria says that he was attempting to negotiate
Speaker 1: the sale of weapons to a group and that he
Speaker 1: made a comment allegedly the day beforeating JFK and the
Speaker 1: taking out of JFK with a group of backers from
Speaker 1: say the Middle East that would take care of Kennedy. Now,
Speaker 1: this doesn't mean this is a person that in the
Speaker 1: investigations says this, okay, So it's not like Diehard proof.
Speaker 1: It's just one of several of these where people are
Speaker 1: saying throughout the years of this investigation by the different agencies,
Speaker 1: and by the way, the FBI, I think has their
Speaker 1: own files on this. So one correction that should be made,
Speaker 1: because this is going around and I looked into this one,
Speaker 1: people are saying the nineteen fifty six Hungarian riots were
Speaker 1: orchestrated with the support of the CIA. Now it turns
Speaker 1: out that this is not talking about that. If you look,
Speaker 1: it actually says the HFFF. But that's a group that's
Speaker 1: an NGO created after this event in nineteen sixty three. However,
Speaker 1: it not outside the realm of possibility. It's very likely
Speaker 1: that the CIA did aid the anti Soviets and sought
Speaker 1: a regime change coup in nineteen fifty six during the
Speaker 1: Cold Wars.
Speaker 2: That certainly makes sense.
Speaker 1: You can find London Telegraph articles that talk about British
Speaker 1: intelligence training these people. So it's not I mean, most
Speaker 1: likely the CIA did as well. But this is really
Speaker 1: a minor point. This one is the one I think
Speaker 1: most people expected to see and is probably one of
Speaker 1: the more damning, which is that the CIA does not
Speaker 1: have objection to the declassification of these documents except for
Speaker 1: the mentioning of the bracketed which is quote I Intelligence
Speaker 1: Service of.
Speaker 2: The Middle East.
Speaker 1: So here you have the CIA admitting, probably because they
Speaker 1: don't want to have you know, a damaging I mean,
Speaker 1: you could look at it from like a just a
Speaker 1: basic geopolitical perspective that they don't want to have a
Speaker 1: damaging relationship through the release of these documents, and so
Speaker 1: that's why that was put there. Or you could say
Speaker 1: it's more conspiratorial that they're told you've got to do this.
Speaker 1: There are, by the way, quite a few people in
Speaker 1: the history of the CAA and in the CAA who
Speaker 1: have been pretty vocal about not being pro Israel. You
Speaker 1: can go back even to the Bush era when Bush
Speaker 1: shifted away from Israeli intelligence and was interested in the
Speaker 1: Safari Club being an outfit which was Saudi connected and
Speaker 1: all that. There's a whole story behind that which is
Speaker 1: unique and interesting that not many people know about. And
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that Bush Senior didn't still have connections
Speaker 1: or uses for Israeli networks or whatever. But it is
Speaker 1: relevant because there are tons of CIA individuals who do
Speaker 1: not particularly care for Israeli intelligence or the Israelis or
Speaker 1: are critical of it. And so it's not a unified
Speaker 1: thing where everybody in the CIA just does what they're told.
Speaker 1: You can look up Michael Schuyer, who was the head
Speaker 1: of the bin Laden Unit. I've shared that clip twenty times,
Speaker 1: and Schuyer in many interviews says that the main problem
Speaker 1: in American geopolitics and foreign a policy is Israel. And
Speaker 1: he's made that criticism for like two decades, and he
Speaker 1: was the head of the bin Laden Unit for the CIA.
Speaker 1: So it's not like everyone in the CIA had this attitude.
Speaker 1: In fact, Dulles and others back in the classic era
Speaker 1: of the CAA were seemingly a little more on the
Speaker 1: side of Tonny mustache Man, and you know, they were
Speaker 1: involved in Operation paper Clip this kind of stuff. So
Speaker 1: there was not a unified mindset even in the CIA.
Speaker 1: Maybe over time as the Cold War progressed, then you
Speaker 1: get people like James Jesus Angleton, who was you know,
Speaker 1: very much pro Israel, very much pro Zion. In fact,
Speaker 1: there's a garden dedicated to him in Israel, and he
Speaker 1: had a back channel with I Intelligence as well as
Speaker 1: some of the documents will show now in regard to JFK,
Speaker 1: this one was one of the more interesting documents. I
Speaker 1: don't know if this document had already been declassified. It
Speaker 1: looks like one of the new ones, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of claims flying around. So you know, anything I
Speaker 1: say that's incorrect, I welcome being corrected. We just had
Speaker 1: to mention a correction a last night's dream in regard
Speaker 1: to that fake Bob Bear interview from many years ago.
Speaker 2: But this one is.
Speaker 1: Interesting because it notes this character by the name of Underhill,
Speaker 1: who had been an intelligence agent in the in World
Speaker 1: War Two. He was recognized as an authority on limited
Speaker 1: warfare and small arms. He was a researcher and a
Speaker 1: writer on military affairs. He was on a first name
Speaker 1: basis with a lot of the time brass and the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: He was also on intimate terms with a number of
Speaker 1: high ranking CIA officials. He was the agency's on people
Speaker 1: to sort of a ghost operative. He performed special assignments
Speaker 1: and at one time had been a friend of Samuel
Speaker 1: Cummings of inter Ramco the arms broker that numbers amongst
Speaker 1: its customers the CIA and Klein's Sporting Goods of Chicago,
Speaker 1: where the mail order Carkano allegedly was purchased by Oswald.
Speaker 1: Now remember that this is the Chicago is where this
Speaker 1: group of supposedly Cubans who are hired to do this
Speaker 1: event with JFK. That from the previous memo, the Echavario
Speaker 1: guy that.
Speaker 2: Was also out of Chicago.
Speaker 1: And the reason that's relevant is because the leader of
Speaker 1: the mafia in Chicago was sam Giancana Momo, who is
Speaker 1: a you know, tied into CIA and Operation Underworld, and
Speaker 1: i mean Operation under World is older, but the CIA
Speaker 1: continued the Underworld alliances with organized crime. I've interviewed Sammy
Speaker 1: the Bull Gravano, the most famous living I mean I've
Speaker 1: been on his podcast like ten times. I mean, he
Speaker 1: pretty much confirms all that as well in our discussions.
Speaker 1: And so you've got the reason also that the mafia
Speaker 1: is a key player in this is that the mafia
Speaker 1: what were mad at the Kennedy brothers for many things
Speaker 1: that were cracking down on the drugs. The mafia had
Speaker 1: helped RFK get elected, and so that was in Chicago
Speaker 1: for a call. So they helped the vote rigging there by.
Speaker 2: And this is well known.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows this, not even that really really that's controversial anymore.
Speaker 1: And then RFKA Junior, when he started cracking down on
Speaker 1: organized crime, he instead of arresting Carlos Marcelo, who was
Speaker 1: the New Orleans based gangster that was running the mob
Speaker 1: out of New Orleans, he banished him to Guam or
Speaker 1: somewhere like they like put him in a plane. They
Speaker 1: flew him to Guam and just dropped him off. Well,
Speaker 1: he made his way back through a shrimp boat apparently,
Speaker 1: and when he got back he was like, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take care of these Kennedy boys because we helped
Speaker 1: them get elected. They don't want to do what we
Speaker 1: are telling him to do. And Carlos Marcelo is famously
Speaker 1: on tapes. The FBI has recorded tapes, but they're inadmissible
Speaker 1: because they were recorded illegally. Marcelo bragging that they got Kennedy.
Speaker 1: You know, there was we the mafia did this, not
Speaker 1: just the mafia.
Speaker 2: They say.
Speaker 1: So people are overly simplistic. They think, oh, was it
Speaker 1: the mafia or was it the CIA? Well, the CIA
Speaker 1: has worked with the Mafia since the oss An operation Underworld,
Speaker 1: which we've lectured on that also does tie into Gladio.
Speaker 1: So this document mentioned this CIA or this deep state
Speaker 1: operative guy who had been talking about this. The day
Speaker 1: after the assassination, Gary Underhill left Washington in a hurry.
Speaker 1: Late in the evening, he showed up at the home
Speaker 1: of friends in New Jersey. He was reagitated. A small
Speaker 1: clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided.
Speaker 1: Guess what, that's exactly what backs up Most of the
Speaker 1: theories in regard to this, whether it's Michael Collins, p
Speaker 1: whether it's Roger Stone's book, and other books, by the way,
Speaker 1: have focused on one of the groups, the Mafia, CIA,
Speaker 1: other countries.
Speaker 2: Those are not wrong.
Speaker 1: They're just looking at certain angles of the players that
Speaker 1: were involved in this.
Speaker 2: So remember the.
Speaker 1: The mobsters are used because they're convenient ways to organize
Speaker 1: a hit. I'm not saying necessarily the mobsters themselves directly
Speaker 1: did the hit, because, as we mentioned with when we
Speaker 1: interviewed Sammy the Bull, Sammy pointed out that the way
Speaker 1: we would do this is if it was something like
Speaker 1: a high profile thing, we wouldn't directly do it, we
Speaker 1: would find another kind of person wound up to either
Speaker 1: be the patsy or to be the one that would
Speaker 1: do it and take the heat.
Speaker 2: Et cetera.
Speaker 1: So this is a pretty interesting document because it does
Speaker 1: back up basically the kind of Secret Team analysis that.
Speaker 2: You get in Fletcher Proudy.
Speaker 1: Right, So Fletcher Prouty in his book Secret Team says,
Speaker 1: I was in this. We're part of a you know,
Speaker 1: a breakaway click basically the CIA that runs around the world,
Speaker 1: and we do assassinations, sabotage, coups, fake news, regime change.
Speaker 2: You name it. It's what we do.
Speaker 1: And you know, you could take issue with some of
Speaker 1: its claims maybe maybe, But I mean the book is
Speaker 1: pretty well known, it's pretty famous, and why would why
Speaker 1: would anything this be surprising? By the way, It's like,
Speaker 1: after all the things that we've learned in the last
Speaker 1: five years, like all this another should be surprising. So
Speaker 1: this one I think was really interesting. This memorandum about
Speaker 1: this guy who was part of the Pentagon and was
Speaker 1: a sort of a ghost operator, probably some kind of
Speaker 1: a he sounds like Fletcher Proudy's Secret Team kind of guy.
Speaker 1: And he says, yeah, this was an organized crime and
Speaker 1: the CIA, a faction of the CIA doing this. Now
Speaker 1: here's a little more of this. It says the friends
Speaker 1: whom Underwill Underhill visited say he was a sober person,
Speaker 1: but he was badly shook. They say he attributed to
Speaker 1: the Kennedy murder to a CIA click that was carrying
Speaker 1: on a lucrative racket in gun running, narcotics and other contraband.
Speaker 1: He was manipulating and they were manipulating political intan figures
Speaker 1: to serve their own ends. Kennedy supposedly got wind as
Speaker 1: something was going on and was killed before he could
Speaker 1: blow the whistle. Although the friends had already known Underhill
Speaker 1: to be perfectly rational objective, they at first didn't take
Speaker 1: him seriously. We couldn't believe that the CIA could contain
Speaker 1: a corrupt element every bit as ruthless and more efficient
Speaker 1: than the mafia. Really, So that one is, I think
Speaker 1: pretty good. This one is a little less clear. RT
Speaker 1: found this or mentions this. It's just says it says
Speaker 1: secret bases and it's a list of like but we
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that means. Is this like CIA stations?
Speaker 1: Is this torture facilities? Is this a black site? Is
Speaker 1: this a safe house, you know, but probably not relevant
Speaker 1: anymore since it's going back to like the Cold War.
Speaker 1: Here's another one that says the CIA was wanting to
Speaker 1: keep the Warren Commission out of the public domain, and
Speaker 1: they had every reason.
Speaker 2: To do that. Now, why would the CIA have.
Speaker 1: Every reason to not want people to know what the
Speaker 1: Warren Commission was finding? That, to me speaks to a
Speaker 1: cover up. Here's one that is another Catholic in g
Speaker 1: O organization. And to the Catholics who been mad and
Speaker 1: fussing and bitching at me, this isn't a string of
Speaker 1: documents that I've been covering. This is not a sole
Speaker 1: isolated document because when I posted this somebody said.
Speaker 3: Oh, they had one operative in a ng so what now?
Speaker 1: This is one operative in in Go amongst many operatives
Speaker 1: throughout the Roman Catholic Church. But this was an outfit
Speaker 1: called Catholics Catholic Association for International Peace. And the document
Speaker 1: notes in section three that the above items were received
Speaker 1: by Oliver Corbiston, who has joined CIA app CIP for
Speaker 1: cover cover purposes. And so he's a CIA operative who
Speaker 1: joined this outfit as a cover That's just one example
Speaker 1: among many. This one is uh several documents that another
Speaker 1: profile found and this is an Operation Mongoose. And the
Speaker 1: only reason I re shared this one is because in
Speaker 1: the stream that we did what two nights ago on
Speaker 1: certain Middle Eastern countries and their intelligence, I did a
Speaker 1: three hour talk.
Speaker 5: You don't ever talk about the countries in your Middle East?
Speaker 5: Oh really, I did a three hour talking it.
Speaker 2: You don't know. Oh really, I covered Victor Strowski's masade.
Speaker 4: But oh.
Speaker 1: Well, this relates to it because this is Operation Mongoose.
Speaker 1: And he says, this shows a CIA playbook on how
Speaker 1: they conduct regime change. Now this is correct because this
Speaker 1: is basically the same sort of pattern or model. It's
Speaker 1: a technology, color revolutions, it's all the same type of stuff.
Speaker 2: These files highlight.
Speaker 1: How CIA used psyops, media, espionage economics to target the
Speaker 1: Cuban politicians, use covered actions. The documents even mentioned black
Speaker 1: market activities Dulah exactly like Gladio. They used Time magazine
Speaker 1: as an implement of dissemination. Why would they use Time magazine, Well,
Speaker 1: that's because Henry Lewis of Time magazine was skull and
Speaker 1: bones and worked closely with the OSS and the CIA.
Speaker 1: And that's a gigantic section of David Wimhaw's book, which
Speaker 1: we have already been talking about.
Speaker 2: The CIA has been.
Speaker 1: Controvertibly engaged in regime change for decades. Well, yeah, who
Speaker 1: doesn't know this? They use a similar playbook. That's I
Speaker 1: think an interesting point that it's a similar playbook. What
Speaker 1: evidence is there that the sai I ever stopped Well,
Speaker 1: of course they didn't. We've been talking about color revolutions
Speaker 1: for years. We already mentioned Fom Mengdol in all these
Speaker 1: other texts. This is extremely pertinent to the war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: You have Victoria Newland, you have Operation Mongoose, with many parallels.
Speaker 1: So you can go read this. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: read all these documents there because that one's kind of
Speaker 1: people already knew about Operation Mongoose. But it's an interesting
Speaker 1: side point. Another document is mentioned here, which is that
Speaker 1: it looks like Arthur Schlessinger, who was one of Kennedy's
Speaker 1: close advisors. He warns Kennedy about the CIA being too powerful,
Speaker 1: too reckless, and having a government within a government.
Speaker 2: Hmm, what does that sound like?
Speaker 1: Have we ever heard the idea of a state within
Speaker 1: a state, like a shadow government or a deep state?
Speaker 2: But this is actually mentioned.
Speaker 1: By slashing her the advisor to Kennedy in National Archive
Speaker 1: file one seven six dash one zero zero three zero
Speaker 1: dash one zero four two two. So there's that document
Speaker 1: and another interesting one which we all already kind of
Speaker 1: knew about, but maybe a bunch of normies didn't.
Speaker 2: Know about this.
Speaker 1: It's another CIA file dealing with nineteen sixty three document
Speaker 1: internal review of the agency's drug recruitment efforts, noting a
Speaker 1: significant lack of significant results. The document stresses that the
Speaker 1: program shortcomings were due to inefficient handling of delayed responses
Speaker 1: in Cuba, where candidates were initially eager but lost motivation.
Speaker 1: It says drug dips. So I'm guessing that means drug recruiting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't follow Mario in the Fall, so
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: recruiting people involved in organized crime. Again, not a shocker
Speaker 1: if you know about uh, you know, Operation Underworld.
Speaker 2: In view.
Speaker 1: In I can't read that. It's too blurry, but it
Speaker 1: just mentions drug dips.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Connect This one is the most probably interesting of these.
Speaker 11: I have.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen anybody say these were previously released.
Speaker 1: But this is of course one of the key connections
Speaker 1: that was written about and theorized about by this you know,
Speaker 1: the hardcore JFK conspiracy nerds, and this was the connections
Speaker 1: and the back channels that James Jesus Angleton had with
Speaker 1: certain foreign countries. And you'll notice that the memo mentions.
Speaker 2: Here, let's see what it says.
Speaker 1: As you're aware Angleton, the CAA frequently turns over to
Speaker 1: the Bureau highly confidential basis information which has been developed
Speaker 1: through operations head about Angleton. In many instances, the information
Speaker 1: is given to the Bureau without clearly going through the
Speaker 1: regular CAIA channels. In almost all instances, it is given
Speaker 1: to us with a clear understanding that if including a
Speaker 1: report or other communication prepared for dissemination outside the Bureau.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing this is an FBI document that the CIA has.
Speaker 1: It says it can be traced back either to Angleton
Speaker 1: or the CIA. In such instances where the information is
Speaker 1: relates to Middle Eastern country, it has been the practice
Speaker 1: of Middle Eastern country. And then the next document says,
Speaker 1: in fifty four a procedure was approved whereby we could
Speaker 1: attribute certain information receive from James Jesus Angleton CIA under
Speaker 1: the symbol of Bureau in Format one hundred. This information,
Speaker 1: for the most part, emanated from a liaison agreement which
Speaker 1: the CIA maintained with Middle Eastern Intelligence and from other
Speaker 1: sources under the control of Angleton. Much of the information
Speaker 1: was developed by him and was not disseminated within the CIA.
Speaker 1: He felt that the data should be passed to the Bureau.
Speaker 1: Dulls gave him the authorization to handle the dissemination in
Speaker 1: this way. We continue to receive information of.
Speaker 2: This nature.
Speaker 1: Of value on a regular basis, so there's a back channel.
Speaker 1: Then it goes on to say, as you know that
Speaker 1: continued individual captioned captioned individual is providing the Bureau with
Speaker 1: considerable information, much of it of a very sensitive nature.
Speaker 1: It has been noted that in transmitting communications to Angleton,
Speaker 1: some memoranda have been sent to the Director of the
Speaker 1: CIA Angleton in care of E. F.
Speaker 10: Hall.
Speaker 1: Other memoranda dealing with Middle Eastern Eye intelligence matters have
Speaker 1: been directed to Engleton. And then it goes on to
Speaker 1: say Engleton states that the above request was being made
Speaker 1: with the approval of Dulles, Director of CIA. He further
Speaker 1: indicates that he desired the above method designation in connecting
Speaker 1: with correspondence dealing with Middle Eastern intelligence with regard to
Speaker 1: the Bureau report. So again just another statement of back channel.
Speaker 1: And then this one says Angleton handles special cases. He
Speaker 1: has considerable freeway, a freedom in leeway. He is directing
Speaker 1: the operations of his unit. In general, he is responsible
Speaker 1: to the CIA numerous foreign sources and channels for developing info.
Speaker 1: The primary source is Israeli intelligence primary source. So Angleton
Speaker 1: is essentially backchannel attached at the hip to Middle Eastern countries.
Speaker 1: Interesting which I think everyone already sort of knew.
Speaker 2: But here we have full on.
Speaker 1: Documentation which it looks like these are FBI files, which
Speaker 1: is interesting too. Have people digging and finding other more
Speaker 1: interesting things. This has only been twenty four hours, maybe
Speaker 1: even less than twenty four hours according to Lord Voldemort.
Speaker 1: There's another one third of the documents that have not
Speaker 1: yet been declassified, so we might actually see, you know,
Speaker 1: more stuff dropping that's even more wild or interesting. But again,
Speaker 1: it looks like it confirms pretty much what most of
Speaker 1: the researchers assumed.
Speaker 2: Or thought was going on.
Speaker 1: Who had, you know, kind of hardcore integrative takes that
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Speaker 1: stops the classification for being a siout. Actually, there's not really.
Speaker 1: I don't think that you could even rule that out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there have been many fake false leaks.
Speaker 1: But also when you have declassification or something like this
Speaker 1: for your requests, when they back up, you know, the
Speaker 1: theories that are critical of the establishment, then it's probably believable.
Speaker 1: But no, there's nothing that you know, you could Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could conceivably have a fake leak or what's called
Speaker 1: a limited hangout, And usually a limited hangout is not
Speaker 1: totally fake information. For it to be effective, it has
Speaker 1: some true information and then it'll mix in a bunch
Speaker 1: of disinfo. But I mean, the idea of a Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern country being connected to this that was so controversial
Speaker 1: for so long. I don't find there's nothing, by the way,
Speaker 1: in the documents that disproves any of the major conspiracy elements. Rather,
Speaker 1: there is information that appears to be new as far
Speaker 1: as i'm ware, But I'm not a JFK expert. This
Speaker 1: has not been my I have not spent twenty years
Speaker 1: on this, So I read a handful of books on it, right,
Speaker 1: Jim Mahers, Mark Lane, Michael Collins, Piper some other less
Speaker 1: credible conspiracy texts on it, and I just kind of like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is obviously, like you know. And then I've read
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the history of organized crime
Speaker 1: in the CIA.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, to me, it's kind of obvious.
Speaker 1: So I didn't spend you know, years in the GfK
Speaker 1: rabbit hole because obviously it's kind of like the Big
Speaker 1: Nine events, Like, Okay, I don't believe the official story,
Speaker 1: so what more do I need?
Speaker 2: So we're going to open it up now.
Speaker 1: People want to come on, ask questions, if you would
Speaker 1: like to debate the topic, if you got any Roman,
Speaker 1: if we have any Roman Catholics want to discuss the
Speaker 1: geopolitical angle of the papacy and Catholicism coming up in
Speaker 1: some of the documents, feel free to request to come
Speaker 1: on and I'll let you make whatever arguments you want.
Speaker 1: VESI Vlad Jay, what do you think the reasons are
Speaker 1: behind the documents being released? It seems to implicate America's
Speaker 1: greatest allies and yet our air strikes have returned.
Speaker 2: I don't know. There could be a lot of different motivations.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, there was a.
Speaker 1: Clip of Pompeo saying that he didn't want them released,
Speaker 1: so I don't think he would say that he basically,
Speaker 1: basically he was the one that was blocking the release.
Speaker 1: So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2: Luca? What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: My name is Luca, isn't that? Uh? What's her name?
Speaker 2: That that?
Speaker 1: I forget that one's name? Gotta I'm mute, man, you can.
Speaker 12: You hear me?
Speaker 5: Huh?
Speaker 13: I don't.
Speaker 14: I don't expect to be brought to be honest, but
Speaker 14: I just want to ask a few things that like,
Speaker 14: the Orthodox Church isn't infiltrated at all by like the
Speaker 14: KGB and stuff.
Speaker 2: Or what in the past did you were not here?
Speaker 1: I covered this, I literally covered this like the first
Speaker 1: thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I wasn't here, so my bad.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So no, As I said, I've interviewed subject matter experts
Speaker 1: on the relationship of the KGV and the n k
Speaker 1: v D to the Orthodox Church in Russia and other
Speaker 1: Orthodox churches as well. I've talked about the CIA's infiltration
Speaker 1: also of the Orthodox Church. Uh, there are Orthodox writers
Speaker 1: who write on this subject. You can go to Orthodox
Speaker 1: England and read essays that have been there for fifteen
Speaker 1: years on the Internet discussing the position of ro Corps
Speaker 1: between the KGB and the CIA and the difficulties that
Speaker 1: ensued from that. You can look at the history of
Speaker 1: ro Corp itself being invited in many cases to the
Speaker 1: West because you had a lot of white Russians fleeing
Speaker 1: Bolshevik and Soviet persecution. So idiot Roman Catholics act like
Speaker 1: ro Corps is KGB, which to me just shows how
Speaker 1: stupid they are, because the very entity itself is fleeing
Speaker 1: from Soviet persecution, bullshit persecution.
Speaker 2: It's just stupid at the and ignorance. People have no
Speaker 2: clue what they're.
Speaker 1: Talking about, and they just spit this crap out on
Speaker 1: Twitter all day long, just showing their idiocy. So it's
Speaker 1: way more complex than that. And in fact, even in
Speaker 1: the structure of the KGB in Russia they had tiers
Speaker 1: of compromisability. Did you know that it wasn't a total
Speaker 1: KGB church. There were tiers that the KGB had about Okay,
Speaker 1: this bishop is totally comp this bishop is flexible. This
Speaker 1: bishop is not compromisable. Okay, so this idea that it's
Speaker 1: all black or white is just totally stupid. I interviewed
Speaker 1: Metropolitan jonah on that, who is a subject matter expert
Speaker 1: on the history of the Russian Church, and I interviewed
Speaker 1: Jim jottrass on that talking about this subversion of the
Speaker 1: ecumenical patriarch. So like this, this idiot client, you.
Speaker 3: Only talk about the CIA the church.
Speaker 1: No, I don't talk about the CNAP all the time too.
Speaker 1: Hang your head, Hey, just a quick question. I haven't
Speaker 1: got to read any of these stuff yet.
Speaker 9: Obviously interested for this particular nation that's involved that we've
Speaker 9: found that's come out that's making all the press.
Speaker 4: You just talked about, what does it have? You got
Speaker 4: to read it and do you know does it mention
Speaker 4: in what way specifically they're involved?
Speaker 15: And then, uh, because I'm kind of new to this stuff,
Speaker 15: and I was curious.
Speaker 1: I mean again, where I'm not being rude, like we're
Speaker 1: you're not here for the last hour where we talked
Speaker 1: about it. So we went through every angle of James
Speaker 1: Jus Angleton there that's in the documents.
Speaker 2: We went through.
Speaker 1: The Echavaccio or Evacascio, whatever his name is, the Cuban
Speaker 1: guy and his claim, and so again it's just sort
Speaker 1: of backs up what Michael Collins, Piper and Roger Stone
Speaker 1: had theorized. A confluence of elements. So the CIA was
Speaker 1: not happy with certain things that Kennedy had said about
Speaker 1: breaking into a million pieces. Certain Middle Eastern countries were
Speaker 1: not happy about Demona nuclear program, et cetera. And again,
Speaker 1: Piper wrote his book in two thousand and five. I
Speaker 1: read it in two thousand and eight. So the people
Speaker 1: on the internet saying that.
Speaker 3: I'm the first person to talk about this, you know
Speaker 3: where you're not?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? It's been in his books.
Speaker 1: That's a giant book too. It's like seven or pages
Speaker 1: from two thousand and five is and he's from The Spotlight,
Speaker 1: which was one of the first entities to expose Bilderberg group. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jim Tucker, Jim Tucker used to go to Bilderberg for years.
Speaker 1: He's in the old documentaries at Lord Baldemort, at Bilderberg.
Speaker 1: I used to read The Spotlight, so I know about this.
Speaker 1: I read I read the book seventeen fricking years ago.
Speaker 1: Artie Lucas, what's up.
Speaker 4: Hey, Jay, Good to see you.
Speaker 16: I know you have studied espionage for a long time,
Speaker 16: and my question.
Speaker 4: Is about double agents.
Speaker 16: Seeing the current developments in Ukraine, which you agree that
Speaker 16: there's a lot of Russian infiltration in Samaga Make America
Speaker 16: Great Again camp and seeing this weird the foreign policy
Speaker 16: of Trump's administration, I can only see Israel's and Russian's
Speaker 16: foreign influence, and it's interesting how it's completely one to
Speaker 16: eighty degree is shift from Biden's administration policies. It's interesting
Speaker 16: to me how deep state, if it exists, how did
Speaker 16: it allow this.
Speaker 1: Deep state? Deep state? If it exists, do you understand?
Speaker 1: The New York Times wrote an article about how glad
Speaker 1: they are that the deep state does exist. What do
Speaker 1: you mean does if it exists?
Speaker 16: Well, if it exists, then why do they allow all
Speaker 16: these crazy things happening, the deconstruction of dead men?
Speaker 1: If it exists, didn't you just say that Israel supported
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Well.
Speaker 4: That's what I mean exactly.
Speaker 17: If there's deep state, let's say, administrative state state of
Speaker 17: the United.
Speaker 16: States, do they work with Israelis and Russians in a
Speaker 16: way that as you said, it's not black and white,
Speaker 16: it's double agents, it's foreign influence. And the question that
Speaker 16: I'm getting at is this one eighty degree shift that's
Speaker 16: obvious to everyone in foreign policy. How could deepstate allow
Speaker 16: this craziness to happen?
Speaker 4: Like was that planned before Trump? Is Trump even the player?
Speaker 4: What's happening there?
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I mean, yes, there are double agents,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that this is some massive sixty
Speaker 1: six dimensional chess game where everybody's a bunch of double agents.
Speaker 1: And no, actually, Russia is running everything and Trump is
Speaker 1: working for Russia. For one, the Steele dossier, the p
Speaker 1: Gate memo, all of that was fictional material from British intelligence,
Speaker 1: just made up. So if there is proof of this,
Speaker 1: where is it. Where's the proof that Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: in bed with the Russians? I mean, we've heard this
Speaker 1: from the establishment for the last ten years almost and there's.
Speaker 2: Zero proof of that. Now.
Speaker 1: Trump is very pro Middle Eastern country, but that to
Speaker 1: me seems to be the main vector of criticism. I
Speaker 1: don't see this Russian stuff that Russia's running all this.
Speaker 1: And another reason why there's a flip on this is
Speaker 1: that the Ukraine war is terribly unpopular. Nobody in America
Speaker 1: wants that. And by the way, are you saying that
Speaker 1: the Biden family in its regime was not engaging in
Speaker 1: a giant money laundering operation with Hunter and Barisma and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: So that's all fake too, Like.
Speaker 1: The narrative of the establishment is so preposterous that we
Speaker 1: know it's not true. And to say if there's a
Speaker 1: deep state, if there's a deep state, well there can
Speaker 1: be a deep state, as the documents admit, and they're
Speaker 1: not all powerful, like just because there's a deep state,
Speaker 1: all they run everything, They're behind every single every event,
Speaker 1: everything that happens is a deep state, Mimi. I mean
Speaker 1: Victoria Nelan has said what the plan was, like not
Speaker 1: even controversial. She says, yeah, there's bioweapons around Ukraine. Yeah
Speaker 1: we did this, Yeah we did that, Yeah, color revolution.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that Russia doesn't have intelligence capabilities or
Speaker 1: that they don't engage in Every nation engages in all
Speaker 1: these same activities, right, But who I really believes that
Speaker 1: Russia is telling America what to do? Okay, we all
Speaker 1: know that America does what the Middle Eastern countries like.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm man, what's up?
Speaker 4: Okay? Hey, hi Jay, what's up? Hey? Thank you for
Speaker 4: letting me speak in your space. I just want to
Speaker 4: talk about Moscow. Moscow if you look up.
Speaker 18: To statistics of strollers and.
Speaker 4: Car seats and so the most what.
Speaker 19: If you take a road trip into Moscow beautiful, that's
Speaker 19: where Putin is.
Speaker 2: At strollers and car seats. What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: I don't understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 13: What I'm saying is is family bound?
Speaker 2: What's family down Moscow?
Speaker 17: Like no abortions like Putin, don't believe in like pride
Speaker 17: and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Mike, what's up? Unmute Mike, Hey.
Speaker 4: J can hear me?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 20: My question is I had two questions. That first question
Speaker 20: is do you think it's conspicuous that these files were
Speaker 20: released just as as it's starting to heat up with
Speaker 20: the Gaza strikes again where the ceasefire was broken, then
Speaker 20: all of a sudden, these documents.
Speaker 4: That implicate Israel were released.
Speaker 20: My second question is, I know James forrestall that people
Speaker 20: aren't aware.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're aware was forced.
Speaker 20: Into a mental hospital in the late nineteen forties or
Speaker 20: early nineteen fifties.
Speaker 4: He was against Israel for various different reasons.
Speaker 20: He was allegedly thrown out of a building in a
Speaker 20: mental hospital. His son actually worked I forget which position,
Speaker 20: but it was in the.
Speaker 1: Executive Oh this is the navy guy, right, Yes, he
Speaker 1: comes up. He comes up in the Gladio literature too,
Speaker 1: because he were okay, wow, yeah, because he was part
Speaker 1: of the because he knew he was involved. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's a bad person, but he was involved in
Speaker 1: navy planning in regard to uh was it Operation Husky,
Speaker 1: which was I think the invasion of allan invasion of Sicily,
Speaker 1: And he at some level was involved in Gladio.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, I guess. Oh yeah, that was my
Speaker 4: first first question. And then follow up on my second question.
Speaker 20: Do you think because James Forrest, James Forrestall was against
Speaker 20: Israeli influence in the United States and then his son
Speaker 20: ended up working for JFK. Junior, is that enough on
Speaker 20: the surface to at least speculate heavily towards Israel or
Speaker 20: do you think there has to be more there?
Speaker 1: Let me pull up the page here in the Gladia
Speaker 1: book from Williams on Forrestall and see what he says, because.
Speaker 20: I remember when I first read that, and I was
Speaker 20: like almost kind of shy. I was like, wow, his
Speaker 20: son worked for JFK. Like that's that, don't that's just
Speaker 20: that seems too that that just just seems too.
Speaker 4: Uh to aby with.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean there could be multiple uh you know, motives for
Speaker 1: these kinds of things, but I wouldn't be surprised. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, people don't know that the mafia was organized
Speaker 1: by Middle Eastern country. So the structure of the mafia
Speaker 1: is luck k Luciano structured it the way mayer Lanski
Speaker 1: and others helped him structure it. I think that's right
Speaker 1: going from memory here.
Speaker 2: So it's not just.
Speaker 1: Italian organized crime. Italian organized crime was structured via Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern organized crime.
Speaker 4: Mall, mall, do.
Speaker 2: You want to talk?
Speaker 1: You have to turn your it's not letting you come
Speaker 1: on here, so you have to turn your speaker on.
Speaker 3: Eric.
Speaker 1: Now, on top of this, it's interesting that not many noways.
Speaker 1: My first thought was, it's interesting that CIA headquarters is
Speaker 1: right now or was a few minutes ago under a
Speaker 1: shut down due to a open pop pop. So listen
Speaker 1: to this.
Speaker 21: We don't have a lot of details. We're showing a
Speaker 21: live shot of the headquarters of Central Intelligence in Langley, Virginia.
Speaker 21: That's in northern Virginia. It looks like a police presence.
Speaker 21: Is some barricade up. I want to put that in
Speaker 21: the box and as we know more here at Real
Speaker 21: America's Voice war Room, we will update you. But something
Speaker 21: quite odd.
Speaker 2: That to me is interesting.
Speaker 1: So the day after the release, there's an open pop
Speaker 1: pop at the CIA headquarters in Virginia.
Speaker 2: What's up, Eric? That could be a distraction.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 15: Man?
Speaker 4: Can you hear me?
Speaker 14: Uh huh?
Speaker 4: Nice dude, Hey, love.
Speaker 11: Your stuff, big fan, you're You're kind of one of
Speaker 11: the main.
Speaker 22: Reasons I've started attending Orthodox Eastern Orthodox Church here in Franklin.
Speaker 1: So thank you for all you do.
Speaker 22: I've been listening a lot to all your theology videos,
Speaker 22: et cetera.
Speaker 4: All your stuff is great.
Speaker 22: Also lovely working with Sam Hyde recently found out came
Speaker 22: up in conversation with some Orthodox friends of mine last
Speaker 22: night about Tesla.
Speaker 4: Do you know much about.
Speaker 22: How him being raised you know Eastern Orthodox as his
Speaker 22: father being a priest. Do you know do you have
Speaker 22: any thoughts on like how Orthodox theology and sort of
Speaker 22: some of his ideas about light and energy are related,
Speaker 22: or do you have any.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the Orthodox doctrine of
Speaker 1: energies maybe tangentially affected him in his worldview. But my
Speaker 1: understanding is that as Tesla got older, he got into theosophy.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he stayed with Orthodox theology. I
Speaker 1: think he got into sort of you know, goofy, weird
Speaker 1: philosophical stuff. It doesn't mean that his discoveries weren't true,
Speaker 1: It's just that from a religious perspective, it probably was
Speaker 1: an influence and then it seems to have kind of
Speaker 1: gone off into kooky stuff.
Speaker 4: Have you done any videos about this or any studies.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I wrote an essay about this
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen years ago, but I haven't really thought about
Speaker 1: it or revisited it in many years.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you one more question? Sure?
Speaker 22: So, you know, just with being new to the Orthodox
Speaker 22: Church kind of being raised Protestant, was Agnostic.
Speaker 4: For a while and then coming back around to.
Speaker 22: Church and God through aesthetics and music and things like that,
Speaker 22: you know, went to school for music, so kind of
Speaker 22: coming back around to God and believing in Jesus through
Speaker 22: a different way, you know, esthetically and whatnot, but you know,
Speaker 22: still still have somewhat of a Protestant mind, just being
Speaker 22: raised that way. And so I've been getting into conversations.
Speaker 2: With my mom.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I've heard.
Speaker 22: You say stuff like, you know, you don't want to debate.
Speaker 4: Your parents, just love on them.
Speaker 22: So we've been having conversations, nice conversations that haven't turned
Speaker 22: into arguments, but just sort of trying to point her
Speaker 22: in different directions to kind of look into the history
Speaker 22: of the canon and things like that. So I was
Speaker 22: just wondering if do you have a good resource. I
Speaker 22: know you mentioned that Lee McDonald book, but do you
Speaker 22: have like what's like a good resource for her to
Speaker 22: kind of look into that isn't so like I guess
Speaker 22: is a little bit more boomer friendly. Some of your
Speaker 22: videos are a little a little intense I find.
Speaker 4: Funny, but like, I mean, the problem she would take it.
Speaker 22: The best way, but like she she's in she's open.
Speaker 1: Minded enough to where you will yeah, sorry, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1: I mean the problem is that the canon is a
Speaker 1: kind of a difficult topic, and I don't know that
Speaker 1: there's one easy book on it. Maybe a little easier
Speaker 1: than Lee McDonald's book is F. F.
Speaker 2: Bruce's book Cannon Scripture.
Speaker 1: Because he's an evangelical scholar and it's a little less
Speaker 1: technical than Lee McDonald's book. So maybe try to give
Speaker 1: her something like F. F. Bruce's Ken of Scripture book
Speaker 1: and then say, hey, you'll notice, you know, he mentioned
Speaker 1: tradition and the role of tradition in the canon, you know,
Speaker 1: throughout that book, so you know, how how is a
Speaker 1: Protestant can you remain Protestant soci scripture without that key
Speaker 1: role tradition. Also, there's a book by Yarslav of Pelicon
Speaker 1: that's pretty good Whose Bible, Which tradition? I think it's
Speaker 1: called That one's pretty good too. Maybe that one's a
Speaker 1: little easier even for Boomers than Bruce's book, and he's
Speaker 1: just kind of dealing with the history of the different
Speaker 1: canonical traditions. Oh my gosh, Ben mystic. There was a video,
Speaker 1: uh where Pompeo was talking about why he blocked the
Speaker 1: release or it was related to here. It is Liz
Speaker 1: Churchill on at West Point. You Will Not Lie to
Speaker 1: your steal and tolerate those who do. I wasn't a
Speaker 1: sedge director.
Speaker 4: We lied.
Speaker 1: We didn't see at all.
Speaker 15: It's like we we had we had an entire we
Speaker 15: had entire trading course.
Speaker 1: Uh, they're all cheering and.
Speaker 2: We're the best of lines, jet and stealing dog.
Speaker 12: Maul.
Speaker 2: What's up man? You'll try against.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, I've just changed.
Speaker 18: And I don't know if you've covered this question before,
Speaker 18: but about the files?
Speaker 4: Do you where about the files? The JK?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 18: Do you do you have any sort of idea as
Speaker 18: to why the CIA requested Israel's redaction from the files?
Speaker 1: Well, we said earlier that most likely that they might
Speaker 1: consider that damaging the special relationship between the two countries
Speaker 1: at a basic level, and then at a more conspiratorial level,
Speaker 1: it might lead to you know, retaliation and some sort
Speaker 1: of you know, maybe compromising information comes out on somebody
Speaker 1: leaking the you know, opening up the files.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 18: And why so why with that request do you think
Speaker 18: they released it? I don't know, totally up in the air.
Speaker 2: Well, it's totally up in the air.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, I think, you know, people
Speaker 1: think of Trump as completely devoted to the Middle Eastern
Speaker 1: country's cause, and he does often seem to be, but
Speaker 1: every now and then he'll also seem to not be
Speaker 1: as devoted, which I don't know the explanation for that,
Speaker 1: For example, sharing the Jeffrey Sachs stuff critical of these actions.
Speaker 1: Why this is let loose now, I mean they could
Speaker 1: have just they could have let it loose and just
Speaker 1: like deleted all these documents too. So that's like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand like people think that, you know, just because
Speaker 1: it's released, like it couldn't be tampered with. I mean,
Speaker 1: they could have not had any these documents in there
Speaker 1: at all, which.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the motivations are, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of things have been happening, you know,
Speaker 1: to take the Daily Wire as an example, right, So,
Speaker 1: like so Ben Shapiro doubles down, doesn't allow any criticism
Speaker 1: of the Middle Eastern countries actions and positions the last
Speaker 1: couple of years, Daily Wire doubles down on that doesn't
Speaker 1: really allow that there that kind of just begins the
Speaker 1: descent of Daily Wire into irrelevance. Daily Wire tries to
Speaker 1: recoup by bringing on all these clowns and degenerates like
Speaker 1: Destiny and Nalla and all these weirdos, and so that
Speaker 1: seems to be just sort of spiraling away. And it's
Speaker 1: like people don't They're not reading the room, is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like this is all over Twitter, all over
Speaker 1: the Internet. People are not being boomer towards anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so they're not reading the room at least entities
Speaker 1: that keep trying to push like, you know, the mindset
Speaker 1: of neo conservatism like ten years ago. This is not
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Internet, man, this is We're out of boomerdom
Speaker 1: and boomer evangelicals and the Christian dispensation is nonsense. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at this dude today. What's his name? This freak
Speaker 1: misfit Patriot. And I'm not trying to be mean here,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm sure every man has dirty thoughts
Speaker 1: or temptations to dirty thoughts, because guys have that. However,
Speaker 1: mine involve women, they don't involve dudes, and they don't
Speaker 1: involve anything entering the exit only from behind. And people
Speaker 1: apparently uncovered this allegedly miss fit Patriot's profile here. My
Speaker 1: quip was miss fist Patriot because of his profile name there,
Speaker 1: but I don't think this should be surprising anyone, because
Speaker 1: I mean even Bryce and Gray kind of and other
Speaker 1: people were picking up on Skittles tendencies here shall we say?
Speaker 1: And bryceon Gray's not the smartest cookie in the cookie jar?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 1: But anyway, so in other words, like this is like whatever,
Speaker 1: like normy conservatism is.
Speaker 2: People are done with that, dude.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants purple haired, blue haired by sexual creep weirdos
Speaker 1: telling them about the Middle East and geopolitics.
Speaker 2: People are just sick of it, Sapphire.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about destiny all these creeps, Safire,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 14: You know what?
Speaker 10: I'm mute?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 23: Hello, yeah, I know you're uncovering a lot.
Speaker 4: Of the JFK stuff today. I'm curious.
Speaker 23: Have you seen the letter from JFK Junior that was
Speaker 23: sent to Joe Biden?
Speaker 4: And are you familiar with that at all?
Speaker 2: I did see that. I don't know what to make
Speaker 2: of that, because.
Speaker 1: You know, if you go back to Burmus's videos, Burmas's
Speaker 1: archived Biden's role in the Big Nine event, and Biden
Speaker 1: did play an interesting role there because he went and
Speaker 1: met with General ma Mood and discussed the meeting. Then
Speaker 1: said there was no meeting. That's when money was transferred
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand dollars to Pakistani ISI and Biden
Speaker 1: talked about it in that secret back door channel that
Speaker 1: they had with the Pakistani i SID which relates to
Speaker 1: the Big Nine event. Again, just go watch Burmas's archived
Speaker 1: clips of that. That's on record. So in other words,
Speaker 1: Biden is he's not at the top of the pyramid,
Speaker 1: but obviously he played some important role. I think back
Speaker 1: at the time at the Big Nine event, he was
Speaker 1: like the intelligence chair or whatever the Senate, you know,
Speaker 1: did intelligence chair or something.
Speaker 2: I think that was his role.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I'm sure that he's in the background
Speaker 1: of this stuff as a kind of an adjacent person.
Speaker 1: He's not running everything. But I'm not surprised if that
Speaker 1: was true that he said Biden's a trader. But somebody
Speaker 1: was I don't know, but somebody was saying that the
Speaker 1: FBI supposedly looked into that, and it's not a real letter.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I did see a lot of
Speaker 1: people talking about it.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I looked into it too, and from what I'd
Speaker 23: seen on some articles on it, it's like the FBI
Speaker 23: confirmed that like the author is anonymous, but the signature
Speaker 23: is still on it. Oh really, it's like they have like, yeah,
Speaker 23: they have expert like doctors and stuff. Surely they would
Speaker 23: know if someone like fabricated the signature. You know, they
Speaker 23: caught it, you know, Tekezinski that way. So it's like
Speaker 23: it seems like it actually was his signature. So I'm wondering, like,
Speaker 23: how the hell did that get on the letter?
Speaker 4: You know, just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: That's a good question, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's JFK researchers that would know more about
Speaker 1: that than me.
Speaker 2: I'm not super.
Speaker 1: I'm not super deep in you know, the JFK stuff.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's up and for him. If anybody wants
Speaker 1: to come on and ask a question, if you'd like
Speaker 1: to have a debate discussion, we have Nicholas Bucci ten
Speaker 1: dollars your advice on the best way to study the
Speaker 1: Church fathers. I would start with Athanasius on the Incarnation.
Speaker 1: I would read Basils on the Holy Spirit. I would
Speaker 1: read the five theological Orations of Gregory nazian Zeus, and
Speaker 1: then I would read or begin perhaps with read those,
Speaker 1: but begin with the post Apostolic fathers.
Speaker 2: Can't.
Speaker 1: That's beat that. That's probably the easiest way to start
Speaker 1: reading the Fathers. I have a friend that assists the
Speaker 1: Dudo Chronicles prove papocy in purgatory. I have no idea
Speaker 1: how an idiot Roman calviy would think that the Dudero
Speaker 1: Cannon and Maccabe's proves the papacy.
Speaker 2: That sounds completely insane to me. I would love to
Speaker 2: hear a.
Speaker 1: Roman calvic try to make an argument that McCabe's proves
Speaker 1: the papacy. That just seems completely outlandish and purgatory. I
Speaker 1: mean has after you mean, we use the text of
Speaker 1: maccabee's to show that we pray for the dead, But that's.
Speaker 2: Not a proof of purgatory.
Speaker 1: Is the created fire of God burning you as a
Speaker 1: payment for your temporal debts for sins? There ain't none
Speaker 1: of that in Macabe's. Referee Rob Jackson one dollar, thank
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Speaker 24: Talk on certain Middle Eastern things been the mystic uh
Speaker 24: oh ay ay.
Speaker 25: I was wondering, I never heard of your take about
Speaker 25: your personal experience with the Big Nine event. I was
Speaker 25: wondering where you were, what was your take on that day,
Speaker 25: and when did your view on it start to shift
Speaker 25: towards malfeasance on the part of our government.
Speaker 2: I was at work and.
Speaker 1: We used to have a like a radio that was
Speaker 1: in the paint mixer I used to I was a
Speaker 1: paint mixer, so I was mixing paint when it happened,
Speaker 1: and I remember listening to it on the little radio
Speaker 1: there and I was, you know, I remember being blown away.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is crazy. I can't believe this
Speaker 1: is happening. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Like what's you know?
Speaker 1: And the news was like I remember under attack and
Speaker 1: it's like are we going to war?
Speaker 2: Like who's attacking? Is what's happening?
Speaker 1: So I remember when they announced that the first tower
Speaker 1: was hit, and then a little bit later the second
Speaker 1: tower was hit, and yeah, I'll never forget any of that,
Speaker 1: but I mean I was like, I don't know. Nineteen
Speaker 1: eighteen so I maybe twenty. I had no idea about geopolitics.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about Islam or Middle East or
Speaker 1: you know, any of that stuff. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: anything other than what the mainstream media was telling everybody.
Speaker 1: Because in two thousand and one, I mean, the Internet existed,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like it wasn't omnipresent like it is now,
Speaker 1: so you know, you couldn't go look up all the
Speaker 1: you know, conspiracy facts or questioning the events or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I remember watching I remember actually was Ebomb's World.
Speaker 1: E Bomb's World had clips from Burmus's documentary on it
Speaker 1: because the clips were going viral, and it was clips
Speaker 1: that were like questioning the Pentagon event, and that was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's kind of weird, what's going on there?
Speaker 1: And then I remember watching the first version of Loose Change,
Speaker 1: and then I remember watching not too long after that,
Speaker 1: subsequent documentaries came out, so that that was about two
Speaker 1: thousand and three and four or five is when I
Speaker 1: started questioning that event.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in middle schoo when it happened. I
Speaker 4: don't think I began to question until I probably got
Speaker 4: out of high school. And actually Jason Burmas.
Speaker 25: When he left New York decided to move to the
Speaker 25: community that I used to live in, the Quad Cities, Iowa,
Speaker 25: Illinois border.
Speaker 4: He's a good guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking out with Burmas in person. He's a fun,
Speaker 1: really really cool, very kind, you know, charitable dude.
Speaker 2: I like him a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for that, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I thought you were the dude that's going to come
Speaker 1: on and like try to argue a bunch of crazy
Speaker 1: mystical stuff. So I apologize. I thought you heard somebody
Speaker 1: else MKG, what's up man?
Speaker 4: Hey j Opo as well.
Speaker 19: My question was about the super chat I sent in
Speaker 19: last night. I think there was a misunderstanding regarding the
Speaker 19: Erman question part ermine question.
Speaker 4: I wasn't asking.
Speaker 19: From a textual perspective debate.
Speaker 4: I was asking that.
Speaker 19: If hypothetically a bart Erhman or bart Ermin disciple were
Speaker 19: to challenge you on Christianity, how.
Speaker 4: What would be a retort or how what what would
Speaker 4: be the thing?
Speaker 1: I would use pre sup and tag because they would
Speaker 1: be coming from some kind of you know, unbelieving perspective.
Speaker 1: So that's again, I'm a philosophy dude, not a text dude.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the route I would take.
Speaker 1: I don't know what other route you could take unless
Speaker 1: you were, you know, studied in textual issues. Maximum nine
Speaker 1: to one, one three dollars, O'Brien's kayak ten dollars Daily
Speaker 1: wire Highlighting people like Destiny and defending Nala reminds me
Speaker 1: of Karl Rove in the two thousands pushing big ten conservatism.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: The quote conservatism is such a joke. That's why I
Speaker 1: made that video a few months ago. Uh, conservatives are
Speaker 1: a bunch of goofy goobers.
Speaker 26: I'm a goof goober, your goof fee goober. We're all
Speaker 26: goofy goobers. Ortho Christian one dollar. There's an article on
Speaker 26: The Guardian about Russian speaking Middle Eastern immigrants from the
Speaker 26: Soviet Union transformed Israeli policy.
Speaker 1: Interesting, that makes sense because of Stalin's change in policy. Right,
Speaker 1: Stalin went from originally wanting to sort of court Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern countries two then what banishing certain groups? My cheap
Speaker 1: ass glasses just broke. So I'm gonna have to be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be acting.
Speaker 2: Like a uh the peanut man with a monocle. I'm
Speaker 2: a goofye goober.
Speaker 10: You are a goofy goober, your old goofy of goobers.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I remember Carl Rode pushing that that
Speaker 1: was because they were always intending on you know, turning.
Speaker 1: I mean, just neo conservatism itself is just liberalism, so
Speaker 1: it's it's neo Trotskyism.
Speaker 10: Troy goo Goober, you are Okay, what's up, dude?
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I was I gonna say. Oh so, I
Speaker 4: just have a quick question. I see you on my
Speaker 4: TV here and you have the omniliberal destiny.
Speaker 5: When when did he become a conservative or or how
Speaker 5: was he representative of conservative?
Speaker 4: I always thought he was, you.
Speaker 1: Know, a crazy nobody got this tweet. When I originally
Speaker 1: put it up, it went viral. It's got like three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand views. It's a joke. So no, of course
Speaker 1: he's not conservative. My whole point is that Daily Wire
Speaker 1: platforms all these goofy goobers as if these people are
Speaker 1: in any way relevant for conservative people. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That was the whole point.
Speaker 27: Okay, Yeah, I completely feel the joke.
Speaker 1: If you look under the if you look under this post,
Speaker 1: there's like thousands, hundreds of people who didn't get it.
Speaker 1: They're all just saying like, yeah, they're.
Speaker 3: Like us is conservative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's the point. Did I miss something?
Speaker 4: Did he switch over?
Speaker 1: I know a year ago, so I was No, he's
Speaker 1: a complete just demon dude. He's disgusting, but I mean
Speaker 1: he's like misfit patriot, Like that's exactly that's the That's
Speaker 1: what they want conservatives to be, because when you have
Speaker 1: no morals, you're completely you know, you don't have anything
Speaker 1: to conserve and you don't have any anything to fight
Speaker 1: for to fight back from.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: So that's why his name is Destiny, because he's what
Speaker 1: the technocratic elite want the Western man to be. He
Speaker 1: is the destiny of Western man from the mindset of
Speaker 1: the technocratic demon goblins.
Speaker 28: Joseph Jay Yo, Hey, so I go to Trinity Church.
Speaker 29: I went there, have been going there since November thirty
Speaker 29: at twenty twenty three. I wasn't active LGS, but I
Speaker 29: grew up. How do I choose a church man? Because
Speaker 29: I know I studied church history and unfortunately, I know
Speaker 29: I love my church, but I know I can't be
Speaker 29: a Protestant, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And I know.
Speaker 29: After the Pope said all as lead to Heaven.
Speaker 4: I know. I was like, yeah, they're out. So how
Speaker 4: do I how do I go up? How would I
Speaker 4: go about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just wherever you live, go check out all of
Speaker 1: the Orthodox churches that are near you and find the
Speaker 1: one that's the best fit for you. That's literally the best.
Speaker 1: That's what we all did. That's the best way to
Speaker 1: do it. So that's my recommendation.
Speaker 2: Guys, it is.
Speaker 1: Wait now we get more super chat excuse me, comforts
Speaker 1: of home television three dollars. Sounds like the home shopping
Speaker 1: network three dollars. Thank you for this information, God blessed,
Speaker 1: Thank you man. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Orthow Christian one dollar.
Speaker 1: It seems to me that Middle Eastern country's connection is
Speaker 1: a good pretense for the World War three letter written
Speaker 1: by Albert Pike. I actually think that letter is fake.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a real letter. Storing the cat
Speaker 1: ten dollars. I like turtles.
Speaker 2: I have turtles.
Speaker 4: Kay.
Speaker 2: I'm just making sure I got all these super jets.
Speaker 1: We don't want people angry.
Speaker 10: I'm a goofy goober.
Speaker 2: You goober, anybody in the chat want to hop on?
Speaker 4: All?
Speaker 14: Right?
Speaker 26: Here we go.
Speaker 1: We got some people hopping on trounser. So the topic
Speaker 1: the topics are listed.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 15: Hey, I have a question. It's somewhat related, maybe not.
Speaker 15: You can tell me if this isn't good. But I've
Speaker 15: recently gotten interested in the whole MK projects.
Speaker 4: Right from the sixties.
Speaker 15: I was one of those people that grew up like
Speaker 15: I didn't think hypnotism was even real. Sorry, what's up
Speaker 15: in kultra? Yeah, exactly, Okay, what would you recommend as bebies?
Speaker 15: I know you've done a ton of research, I know,
Speaker 15: like Esterbrooks has the book Hypnotism and all that. What
Speaker 15: would your recommendation be for the best like comprehensive guide
Speaker 15: on like.
Speaker 2: What that is, what hypnosis is? Or m keldra.
Speaker 15: Well, I know they're overlapping, right, So I guess what's
Speaker 15: your in your expert opinion, which want like just whatever
Speaker 15: you think?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, So Mkultra is dozens of projects all over
Speaker 1: the place, at dozens of universities, not just in North America,
Speaker 1: but actually all over the world, even places like Australia
Speaker 1: so and in fact, more recently even other NATO countries.
Speaker 1: You and Cameron and Carl Jung were at the same
Speaker 1: outfit in Switzerland at the same time, Bergoldzi We've covered that.
Speaker 1: So in fact, there's actually not one magisterial text on
Speaker 1: mk Ultra. But I would recommend either Walter Bowart's book
Speaker 1: Operation in My Control or John Marx's book CIA and
Speaker 1: Search for Entering Candidate. Those are two good introductory books.
Speaker 1: Gordon Thomas also has a pretty lengthy book. He also
Speaker 1: has an extensive book on Israeli intelligence and Masad, which
Speaker 1: is in my stack over here. I have not read Gordon.
Speaker 1: That's the one book I haven't read on Keltra is
Speaker 1: Gordon Thomas's book, but it's probably pretty good. Colin Ross
Speaker 1: has a book on the CIA doctors. So any of
Speaker 1: these would be decent introductory works. But there's not, to
Speaker 1: my knowledge, like one megaton book on.
Speaker 4: It got you. Yeah, I was looking at stuff that
Speaker 4: was more uh. I mean you might have named them.
Speaker 15: I'll go and look at these people afterward. But I
Speaker 15: was even looking at like William J.
Speaker 4: Bryant.
Speaker 15: He has that book The Chosen Ones and stuff like,
Speaker 15: Have you read that one?
Speaker 4: I know it's more like jury selection.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't know what's that to do with
Speaker 2: him Kiltra.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 15: Well, he was like only the hypnosis doctors right, like
Speaker 15: he claimed he did Surhan.
Speaker 4: So I didn't know if you were like familiar with him.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about Lewis Jelly and West No.
Speaker 12: No, William j.
Speaker 15: Bryant, He's I think the grandson of like William Jennings Bryant.
Speaker 15: He was like one of these hypnosis doctors. I think
Speaker 15: he did the child, like the serial killer in Georgia,
Speaker 15: that guy.
Speaker 1: Uh uh Are you talking about Wayne Williams.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, he was the hypnosis doctor that pulled the
Speaker 15: confession from Wayne Williams. Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, he he
Speaker 15: claimed he did Sir Hannett like before his death.
Speaker 4: So I didn't know if you were familiar anyway, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I mean hypnosis is just kind of one
Speaker 1: angle of it. But I don't know a whole lot
Speaker 1: about hypnosis. But if you read the books that I mentioned,
Speaker 1: Bowart's book and Marx's book, they will discuss uh hypnosis
Speaker 1: to a degree. But a lot of this stuff is
Speaker 1: still so. When mk Ultra happened, Helms destroyed supposedly seven
Speaker 1: of the fourteen boxes of documents, so half of them culture.
Speaker 2: We don't know about Artemy, Yes, later do you hear me.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 16: I just I'm just curious how you Jay Dyer is
Speaker 16: an American blogger. You keep spreading Russian propaganda, Kremlin propaganda
Speaker 16: that's clearly from Russian state media. I find it very
Speaker 16: interesting how you're very biased towards Ukraine. There's many Orthodox
Speaker 16: real Christians in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Would that be the would that be the.
Speaker 2: Would that be hold on?
Speaker 1: Would that be the schismatic group created by the CIA
Speaker 1: and the patriarch econonical patriarch. Is that the is that
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 16: I just think Ukraine is fighting against neo Bolsheviks, hate
Speaker 16: real Christians.
Speaker 1: And so who who created the schismatic with Dominko the
Speaker 1: schismatic Orthodox Church.
Speaker 16: You're asking me a specific question that what you can
Speaker 16: answer wants to trick me.
Speaker 4: I'm asking you.
Speaker 1: No, it's an opening.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 1: Dude, you mean what's on record with Dumenko?
Speaker 2: These people are idiots.
Speaker 30: No, I don't know specific way. I can't answer about
Speaker 30: du Crane is good, guys, Yes, the entire.
Speaker 1: Western world has been duped by Russian propaganda. Because Zelensky
Speaker 1: is awesome, as Battalion is awesome. All this stuff, right,
Speaker 1: So we're not even talking about that today. We're talking
Speaker 1: about uh JFK. So can people not talk about the
Speaker 1: very like? The topics are listed, you guys, it's not JFK.
Speaker 1: It's not that stuff. B M duper five dollars. The
Speaker 1: ci van outside your house shot a laser beam to
Speaker 1: break your glasses. These are just like cheap ass reading glasses.
Speaker 1: So it did not require CIA laser beams. That was
Speaker 1: really funny, though, really funny, but discord one dollar. Now
Speaker 1: we already read that.
Speaker 2: Excuse me. Then went on, I have a discussion about
Speaker 2: the topics and just spout out shit. They have no
Speaker 2: idea about Tony. What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Hey, Tony, Hey, Tony, what's on your mind?
Speaker 30: We got ten new members. Shout out to you, new members, Tony,
Speaker 30: what's up? Go ahead, Tony soprano.
Speaker 3: Gobble hey, Tony is the gobble gool.
Speaker 1: All right, So open form, anybody wants to come on
Speaker 1: and talk. The topics are JFK files, CIA, usage of
Speaker 1: the Romancolic Church by the CIA as a instrument of
Speaker 1: soft power, Cold War, Neo Bolshevism, by the way, is
Speaker 1: neo conservatism. The neo cons are the neo Bolshevist, neo Trotskyites.
Speaker 1: So good father, I'm mute.
Speaker 4: Yello.
Speaker 31: Okay, yeah, excellent, Well, thank you so much for letting
Speaker 31: me on your live.
Speaker 20: Here's what's on my mind lately is.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not directly tied, but.
Speaker 31: I'm thinking a lot about the Schism of ten to
Speaker 31: fifty four and how it was ran by these two
Speaker 31: Roman prelates.
Speaker 32: Okay, and and it's and that's the whole thing was
Speaker 32: based on a forced document of the donation of Constantine.
Speaker 32: And I'm curious if that is the beginning of the
Speaker 32: way the papal authority kind of develops this clandestine partnership stuff.
Speaker 2: I think that it contributes.
Speaker 1: There are other factors that are part of it as well,
Speaker 1: so that you know, the history of the papal states
Speaker 1: existing partly on the basis of these forged claims, the
Speaker 1: collapse of the Roman Empire leaving the papacy to fill
Speaker 1: that vacuum, deviations, and the theology contributes to it because
Speaker 1: the Gregorian Reforms the eleventh century is where you have
Speaker 1: the papacy claiming to be a world ruler.
Speaker 4: Oh, here's here's another here's another question.
Speaker 31: It kind of partners with it is the unloven bread.
Speaker 4: The unloven bread argument.
Speaker 31: What do you think was a primary influence in why
Speaker 31: the West was.
Speaker 4: Using unlove and bread.
Speaker 1: There was a one of our listeners just posited an
Speaker 1: argument for this which I had not heard. There was
Speaker 1: a seventh or eighth century Germanic theologian I don't remember
Speaker 1: his name, but he was the first to propose that
Speaker 1: it needs to be the Judaic bred usage because quote
Speaker 1: Jesus was doing the passover. So it's about a seventh
Speaker 1: century Germanic convert theologian. I don't remember his name, but
Speaker 1: that's apparently where it first appears, and that would count
Speaker 1: as a judaizing error. Right, Okay, it's the guy is Melkite.
Speaker 1: He's always on here. He may be on here now.
Speaker 1: I just can't think of his profile name, but Melkite something.
Speaker 1: He commented a couple of days ago. The name of
Speaker 1: this Germanic guy I'd never heard of.
Speaker 2: Okay, Right, But also also you have.
Speaker 1: To keep in mind when you read Photius's letter about
Speaker 1: the Carolinians sending missionaries into Orthodox countries like Bulgaria to
Speaker 1: convert them to Romanism, even in the eight hundreds, what's
Speaker 1: fascinating is that he notes that these quote missionary that
Speaker 1: were sent to preach phillyoquay, we're already using the papal
Speaker 1: claims that you have to do philly oakuay and change
Speaker 1: the bread because the papees he said it. So in
Speaker 1: other words, they became issues that the Western missionaries were
Speaker 1: saying was the basis for the Orthodox being schismatics and
Speaker 1: wrong when the Orthodox were actually correct. So in other words,
Speaker 1: there was a political move for that as well.
Speaker 31: Right, Yeah, anyway, it's just got me thinking about this
Speaker 31: Middle Eastern situation and wondering how much what kind of influence.
Speaker 4: In all that?
Speaker 1: Uh oh, it could be, I mean yeah, if it's
Speaker 1: a judaizing error, it could be. But I mean this
Speaker 1: goes back to like eighth century Germanic converts, as I understand,
Speaker 1: jerd On.
Speaker 5: I can hear me.
Speaker 20: My question is, like best case scenario, like in the
Speaker 20: ten years people wake up, people start to actually inform themselves.
Speaker 4: What happens, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think that after a century of brainwashing and mind
Speaker 1: control and social engineering, it's going to take many years
Speaker 1: to undo all that.
Speaker 2: So I have no idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the only question.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't have a better answer for that, but Harrison.
Speaker 2: What's up man?
Speaker 1: By the way, we already have you know, Lord Baltimore
Speaker 1: interviewed I Howard Hunt on his deathbed, confessing to playing
Speaker 1: a role in it. So you know, if you remember,
Speaker 1: and that was in Rolling Stone too, well, I remember
Speaker 1: when when Alex posted that his deathbed interview with I
Speaker 1: Howard Hunt admitting that they played.
Speaker 2: A role in JFK.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, you have to not know anything to
Speaker 1: you know, not know some of this stuff. Harrison, what's up, page,
Speaker 1: how's it going, good man? What's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So yesterday I was watching your Jesuits and Geopolitics stream.
Speaker 2: It was very good, the old one.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 9: So it's it's super interesting to me to see the
Speaker 9: influence of these kind of different sections of like branches
Speaker 9: of the Catholic Church if you will have these geopolitical influences,
Speaker 9: so like how would you say, like kind of like
Speaker 9: an updated version of maybe that stream, like you see
Speaker 9: that other than the Pope today like influencing maybe.
Speaker 1: Stuff like well, one easy way to see it is
Speaker 1: the USAID stuff. I mean USAID for example, was giving
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars to the most liberal skittles
Speaker 1: Lutheran organizations and churches. There you go. Another example would
Speaker 1: be ecumenism itself. Ecumenism, if you read the Weimoff book,
Speaker 1: is itself a CIA Rockefeller project. And so the idea
Speaker 1: of watering down the theology to turn the churches into
Speaker 1: tools of American soft power to promote Americanism is crucial.
Speaker 1: In fact, one of the main things that Wemoff argues
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the book is that ecumenism itself
Speaker 1: is a consumerist ideology. I will decide based on Low's
Speaker 1: common nominator. I'll pick and choose the theology of what
Speaker 1: I think Christianity is. And so Christianity is just like
Speaker 1: the basic principles of you know LCD Low's comra on there,
Speaker 1: so ehumanism literally is Americanism.
Speaker 2: That's his thesis.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's really interesting, especially if
Speaker 9: you apply that kind of influence in modernity. I mean
Speaker 9: the techno feudalism aspect of it is pretty concerning to me.
Speaker 1: Well, if you read but beyond that too, if you
Speaker 1: read the Michael Graziano book that we lectured through Aaron
Speaker 1: into the Wilderness. The academic text on the history of
Speaker 1: CIA in religion and the Catholic Church particularly, he says
Speaker 1: in that book as well as just a normal secular scholar.
Speaker 1: He says that the CIA operatives that we're working with,
Speaker 1: the OSS and the CIA, they're all ecumenists, and they
Speaker 1: put they put Americanism first, Catholicism second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that does not surprise me.
Speaker 9: But I mean they're definitely using the guys of like
Speaker 9: with the USA stuff. I mean, they could just label
Speaker 9: it as some you know, Jesuit practice and have it
Speaker 9: be written off.
Speaker 1: Well, it's even worse than that because Catholic charities and
Speaker 1: all that stuff that's like human t R A F
Speaker 1: F I C K I N.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah yeah, all right man, thanks man.
Speaker 4: Also appreciate everything you do.
Speaker 1: Jay, help me out a lot. Sure, thank you, all
Speaker 1: right bigly. You'll notice, by the way, that the Roman
Speaker 1: Catholic trash talkers, all of them all over the internet today,
Speaker 1: none of them will come and debate this.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 1: I sent this to probably ten of them, can you
Speaker 1: hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 33: Hey, just a random question here, why has there always
Speaker 33: been a fascination and just this kind of general positivity
Speaker 33: surrounding as a president. I'm sure I could google this,
Speaker 33: but in your opinion, Democrats, Republicans, people in the middle
Speaker 33: just seem to hold him in such a high regard.
Speaker 33: I'd love to get your take on that.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that that's a good point because
Speaker 1: when you go to Dealey Plaza, which we did about
Speaker 1: ten years ago, I've never been there. It's a very
Speaker 1: propaganda heavy I mean, it's all devoted to democracy and Americanism.
Speaker 1: So at a bigger level, Kennedy represents a belief in
Speaker 1: the thing that Quigly is defending in Tragian hope, because
Speaker 1: in Tragian hope, the tragedy is the two World Wars
Speaker 1: the twentieth century, and the hope is liberal democratic capitalism
Speaker 1: can save the world. Literally, that's what like at the
Speaker 1: end of the book. That's his hope. And so Kennedy
Speaker 1: is sort of the ultimate martyr figure as well as
Speaker 1: perhaps RFKMLK two, because they represent the potential future synthesis
Speaker 1: of the Cold War dialectic moving forward into Americanism. So
Speaker 1: Kennedy becomes a kind of a martyr for Americanism. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that means that him undergoing that was
Speaker 1: a good thing. I think that there was a confluence
Speaker 1: of interest to remove him obviously in this operation, because
Speaker 1: he threatened certain forces and certain objectives and people groups
Speaker 1: that had their own motivations. So think of it more
Speaker 1: like rival crime families than good guy bad guy. But yes,
Speaker 1: they were able to also turn Kennedy into this notion
Speaker 1: of a martyr for the religion of democracy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 33: I've just met with people on extremes of the political
Speaker 33: sphere and you can find plenty, you know, anecdotal folks
Speaker 33: that they look at him almost as if he was
Speaker 33: a guy he was untouchable and never said the wrong thing,
Speaker 33: and which we all know is not true.
Speaker 4: But I've always just wondered that, so appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also that, uh, that probably that when they when they
Speaker 1: play that clip of him when he talks about.
Speaker 34: Malcol under the under the falses, I'm saying, false, has
Speaker 34: all this kind of nonsense shake our societies. He's not
Speaker 34: talking about Masons, and you know this, the whole context
Speaker 34: of that speech is the Soviets. He's talking about Soviet
Speaker 34: forces infiltrating America. It's just Cold War stuff, and a
Speaker 34: lot of times people play that clip out of context,
Speaker 34: like JFK was calling out the Masons and the Secret
Speaker 34: societies and and all this stuff. And I think he
Speaker 34: did have, as the document show, a desire to.
Speaker 1: Try to rein in the CIA because they've been doing
Speaker 1: this with organized crime too, right, they were going after
Speaker 1: the mobsters. They sent Carlos Marcelo to Guam. So he
Speaker 1: probably was making certain moves to you know, whether that
Speaker 1: was just to protect his own power or whether he
Speaker 1: really cared about America. Either one, he was making moves
Speaker 1: that made people mad. And then you know he betrayed
Speaker 1: them mafia because they got them. They got the Kennedy's
Speaker 1: elected through voter manipulation through the Chicago machine. That's well known.
Speaker 1: So he made a lot. He pissed off a lot
Speaker 1: of people. So there was there were various powerful people
Speaker 1: with motivations, including sort of Texas big oil people that
Speaker 1: were not happy with him too. So you make enemies
Speaker 1: like that at that level.
Speaker 2: That's what happens.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that you're therefore like the perfect
Speaker 1: super saint.
Speaker 2: I mean he was.
Speaker 1: He was banging Marily Monroe the same time Samsy and
Speaker 1: Conny was banging Marily Monroe and she was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, you know.
Speaker 33: So he also with the president that apparently was getting
Speaker 33: shot up with methamphetamines every day in the Oval office.
Speaker 4: Am I thinking of the right?
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think uh, or that there's
Speaker 1: a story about that, and uh he had like.
Speaker 4: An ivy trip of that stuff going on. What I
Speaker 4: was what I was.
Speaker 1: Told, So I mean, you know, he might he might
Speaker 1: have had, you know, some sincere desires for America to
Speaker 1: not be influenced by you know, Israeli politicians or something
Speaker 1: like that. His dad was Joe Senior, was involved in
Speaker 1: organized crime. He worked with al Capone, and his dad
Speaker 1: was ambassador to England, so they were very close to
Speaker 1: British intelligence. And by the way, I'm sure British intelligence
Speaker 1: had a role in this event too, which nobody talks about,
Speaker 1: given the fact that Joe Senior was ambassador to Britain. Kofi,
Speaker 1: then we'll go to Basil. But like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: also not like a jfk Lore historian person. So Kofi,
Speaker 1: how's it going, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4: So I don't know this is off.
Speaker 20: Topic, but would be some good questions to ask my
Speaker 20: Lutheran pastor an objection to Lutheranism.
Speaker 4: I'm still very new to the church and stuff. I've
Speaker 4: probably got a couple of months there, and I would
Speaker 4: like prot.
Speaker 1: Just I'm not trying to be rude, but you can
Speaker 1: watch some of my videos, but that's not the topic today, Basil,
Speaker 1: what's up, man? Just watch any of the videos critiquing Protestants.
Speaker 1: Watch the debate with DL the Protestant what's on dog, Basil?
Speaker 4: Hey, uh, I'm trying to find the connection.
Speaker 35: And I'm relatively new to your stuff, and I'm just
Speaker 35: trying to think about the dichotomy that a lot of
Speaker 35: people are talking about between the Zionists and the Bolsheviks,
Speaker 35: whereas through most of the Cold War era seemed to
Speaker 35: be on the same side, and a lot of perspects,
Speaker 35: and especially when it comes to the jfk assassination, the government,
Speaker 35: the US government seemed to be more attacking the Bolsheviks
Speaker 35: while siding with the Zionists. And I'm trying to find
Speaker 35: a good mapping of those relationships.
Speaker 4: And I was wondering what your opinion was and if
Speaker 4: you had any resources.
Speaker 1: There's a good article that deals with that at Espionage
Speaker 1: History Archive by Mark and it's I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1: It's the one I think that talks about what do
Speaker 1: I think for a second, it's the one that talks
Speaker 1: about Stalin and him shifting his view on Jews because
Speaker 1: Jews ended up.
Speaker 2: Leaving and going to.
Speaker 1: Israel from Russia because of this shift in policy. It
Speaker 1: has to do with them, the Soviets wanting Israel on
Speaker 1: their side, and then Israel ended up siding with the West,
Speaker 1: and that would be like, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff that James Jus Angleton was trying to.
Speaker 2: Get in place.
Speaker 1: But I cannot I haven't looked at this in like
Speaker 1: ten years, so I'm trying to remember. It might be
Speaker 1: the article that talks about Philby.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Let's see if it's a Philby article, because Philby was
Speaker 1: involved in this too, because he was a journalist somewhere.
Speaker 1: So it's either this one Hitler, Hitler and Stalin, or
Speaker 1: it's oh, it might be this one. Oh, I know
Speaker 1: which one it is.
Speaker 2: It's this one.
Speaker 5: Can you mute?
Speaker 2: Do that's really loud?
Speaker 1: It's I think it's this one Victor Rothchall's Soviet spy.
Speaker 2: I think this one deals with that. Yes, this is it.
Speaker 1: So if you read this, yes, this is it, because
Speaker 1: he gets into phil be and Blunt at the end.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 1: So I got to Espionage History archive and read Victor
Speaker 1: Rothchild Soviet Spy.
Speaker 2: That's the art, that's the article, yep.
Speaker 1: And it talks about the Soviet shift under Stalin. That
Speaker 1: doesn't make Stalin a good guy.
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know.
Speaker 1: People always think in these not you, but there is
Speaker 1: thinks in these like really childish dialectics.
Speaker 5: Well, you're seeing Stalin's a hero.
Speaker 2: Thomas B. Five dollars.
Speaker 1: Does para cursis mean that the persons share the same
Speaker 1: divine nature?
Speaker 2: Para cursis means indwelling.
Speaker 1: It's first used in by Maximus to discuss what happens
Speaker 1: in the incarnation the hypeset of union, that each of
Speaker 1: the nature is fully interpenetrate and dwell one another without
Speaker 1: destroying the properties of that nature. And it's also applied
Speaker 1: in theology after Maximus to the trend wherein the divine
Speaker 1: persons in dwell one another. So it's the persons in dwelling.
Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily directly relate to them sharing a common
Speaker 1: essence per se. How does it go with the incarnation,
Speaker 1: Like I said, because in the incarnation Christ, human nature
Speaker 1: and its divine nature fully in dwell and interpenetrate one
Speaker 1: another without the dissolution or destruction of those natures. O'Brien's
Speaker 1: kayak ten dollars. Kennedy represented the Hope to such a
Speaker 1: degree that they call the admission the administration Camelot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: This is juxtaposition to the family's mob connections. It was
Speaker 1: a brilliant piece of marketing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were brought to power through the mafia, and that
Speaker 1: goes back to Joe Senior, who again ran liquor during
Speaker 1: prohibition with al Capone. Ozwa.
Speaker 36: Hello, just some questions about your stream yesterday and some
Speaker 36: comments you made today kind of shut down the idea
Speaker 36: of Russia like collaborating with the USA in general just
Speaker 36: managing global security and things like that. And yesterday when
Speaker 36: you talk about the Middle East, you mentioned how a
Speaker 36: lot of it comes from sort of British policy from
Speaker 36: the beginning of the century. Yeah, that's not contrast be
Speaker 36: shut down the no, but I just wonder what you
Speaker 36: do you like, disagree that the USA and Russia kind
Speaker 36: of worked together to manage the security of the world
Speaker 36: in some way like they must do, they must have
Speaker 36: some sort of relationship.
Speaker 1: Uh no, there are relationships, there are degrees of you know,
Speaker 1: security agreements, sure, but.
Speaker 4: That you just end the day that you don't think
Speaker 4: that they go further.
Speaker 1: Well, what explicitly are are you thinking? You think that
Speaker 1: Trump and Putin secretly meet in the Masonic.
Speaker 2: Lodges or what?
Speaker 4: Nothing like that?
Speaker 1: Long, Well, what is your theory?
Speaker 36: They Okay, I just wanted.
Speaker 4: To some clarification.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because I work for the KGB, right, So
Speaker 1: I was hired in nineteen eighty by the KGB to
Speaker 1: promote Soviet cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and dougan coin, and I've
Speaker 1: been outed. So that's that's what's going on. It's it's
Speaker 1: all me running disinformation to protect Soviet coin, my uh
Speaker 1: crypto and putent coin because I get paid in putent coin,
Speaker 1: So that's what it does. It's all it's all vast, massive,
Speaker 1: gigantic conspiracy. So here are one of these Roman Catholics
Speaker 1: who has anime pro they're always the worst two that
Speaker 1: Roman cast the anime profiles, and they won't come debate.
Speaker 1: So Spinoza's pantheism is not pagan or gnostic apparently. And
Speaker 1: I'm arguing this guy right now, trying to get him
Speaker 1: to come debate. So I wonder he's got quite a
Speaker 1: few in his audience. I'll see if any of his
Speaker 1: audience will come to bate. He's got seventeen thousand followers, supposely.
Speaker 1: And this is what you get with the Roman Catholics.
Speaker 1: They want to defend Spinoza's pantheism, which is based in Kabbala.
Speaker 1: This is you can read this in Gersham Sholam. You
Speaker 1: can read Kabbala goes back to narcissism into platonism. You
Speaker 1: could read this in Sholom. You could read this in
Speaker 1: Snicia Glu's giant Cambridge text. But these people are just
Speaker 1: out to launch. He only loves deboating. None of them
Speaker 1: will come debate. That's crazy. If you would like to debate,
Speaker 1: it's open for him. I've asked about fifteen of these
Speaker 1: wacko Roman Catholics and quasi pagan want to be I
Speaker 1: want to be fascist Larper's. They won't come to bait.
Speaker 1: So where are you at, dude, mister c So what
Speaker 1: does Gersham Scholam say about Kabbalism that anyone would know
Speaker 1: who'd read any of his text He's the foremost Cabbalistic scholar.
Speaker 2: Of the twentieth century.
Speaker 1: I've got about five of his books. This one major
Speaker 1: trans of Jewish mysticism. What is Mercaba mysticism? Oh, it's
Speaker 1: Jewish gnosticism. What is gnosticism? While it's pagan as st
Speaker 1: Heuronees and many of the Church fathers say. And if
Speaker 1: you read Scholam's other text Kabbala, he says Cabbalism is
Speaker 1: based in Neoplatonism. And if you read Soniciaglow's book on Spinoza,
Speaker 1: he said, which is the Cambridge text, he says Spinoza
Speaker 1: and his pantheism was influenced by atheistic Platonism from his
Speaker 1: Antium from Gemistos Plethon. I'm pretty sure Plethon is a
Speaker 1: pagan philosopher. I'm trying to get this guy to come
Speaker 1: to bate, like I have to beg these people to
Speaker 1: come debate m.
Speaker 2: And they won't do it. Palpable memes. And then Michael,
Speaker 2: what's up palpable memes?
Speaker 4: I'm you, hey, j I have a quick question while
Speaker 4: you're waiting for a napponent.
Speaker 37: That they won't come, Go ahead, Hey, a few months ago,
Speaker 37: I was just happened to be scrolling some of your
Speaker 37: older work on YouTube and came across a breakdown that
Speaker 37: you did of Jonas Salk's Survival of the Wisest. And
Speaker 37: that was the first day of the Trump presidency.
Speaker 8: The second day I saw him roll out Stargate with
Speaker 8: Larry Ellison and Sam Moltman, and it just like.
Speaker 1: So, I'm on YouTube, we can't talk about that right now,
Speaker 1: mister c what's.
Speaker 4: Up, Hey, mister Dian, good evening.
Speaker 27: I had a question about feel free to boot me
Speaker 27: if I'm off topic, about the web Holf book and
Speaker 27: also by the Courtney Murray book.
Speaker 1: That's on topic. You're the first person to actually be
Speaker 1: on the topic.
Speaker 2: I'm joking ahead.
Speaker 27: All right from here in Tim Kelly, a while back
Speaker 27: about these two books, I was wondering if there were
Speaker 27: anything more in relation to intelligence agencies and the Catholic
Speaker 27: Church besides maybe God called apart three or something.
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 2: What what books? You said, two books.
Speaker 27: Besides the Courtney Murray book and also the wind Hof
Speaker 27: book in terms of Catholic.
Speaker 2: Church, Well, the John Courtney.
Speaker 1: M do you mean when you say the Courtney Murray
Speaker 1: book that is the Window books.
Speaker 27: What do you mean, Oh okay, I thought there was
Speaker 27: a second one that dealt with Catholicism and intelligence agencies.
Speaker 4: I just wonder if so.
Speaker 1: There's many that deal with it in some degree. There's
Speaker 1: the Paul Williams book on Gladio. There's the Michael Graziano
Speaker 1: book on Aaron into the Wilderness, which I covered. There's
Speaker 1: the John Taylor book about spies in the Vatican, which
Speaker 1: is a procier narrative. There's Daniel Ganser's book NATO's Secret Armies.
Speaker 1: And there's God's Banker about Roberto Calvi and the Minco Dembrosio.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's other ones, but those are kind
Speaker 1: of the main ones that I can think of.
Speaker 4: Very cool.
Speaker 27: I know the Williams book in the Courney worry book
Speaker 27: or written by Catholics so that it has more have
Speaker 27: at least to us being you know what's going on
Speaker 27: in the church.
Speaker 1: So correct, correct, yes, correct, good point, Thank you, mister c.
Speaker 1: And thank God for somebody on topic. And Melchite cleric
Speaker 1: is the guy who knows about the first Germanic dude
Speaker 1: to use uh, the Judaic version of the bread.
Speaker 2: Who was that guy?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 12: Yeah, go ahead, Hey, I wanted to comment on the
Speaker 12: I love of bread.
Speaker 13: It was.
Speaker 22: It was actually so interesting.
Speaker 4: When I found out about it.
Speaker 12: And it was a monastic practice in Frankia by Saint
Speaker 12: Vincar Cisel, and he's actually still venerated in the Eastern
Speaker 12: Orthodox Church today. He was a prolific monastic. He's mentioned
Speaker 12: as blessed and mentioned energy. But like I said, he
Speaker 12: was a monastic.
Speaker 1: And uh and made a mistake.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he he did it.
Speaker 12: He did make a mistake, and the practice spread throughout
Speaker 12: the monasteries. The Franks in the seventh century had a
Speaker 12: monastic rigor, so the priests and the bishops really looked
Speaker 12: to the monks, and it spread through monasteries throughout Frankia.
Speaker 12: And then as time for grasp and the Carolingians emerged
Speaker 12: to kind of make themselves different from the Byzantine Church,
Speaker 12: big marker was the leaven bread and I believe personally
Speaker 12: the Franks probably had brain ride in that before.
Speaker 2: Making a different Yeah, thank you so much, exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you hopped in because I was trying to
Speaker 1: think of the name and I couldn't think of it. Sean,
Speaker 1: What's hey, Jack didn't hear me.
Speaker 20: Huh yeah. So my grandfather was in the CIA, and
Speaker 20: I'll give you a little backstory real quick.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I actually got to talk to you here
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 20: He was originally he joined the United States Marine Corps
Speaker 20: during World War two. World War War two broke out,
Speaker 20: he was a Carlson's Raider, and then after he was
Speaker 20: a Carlson's Raider, he was presidential guard to Truman. Then
Speaker 20: after that he was ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and then
Speaker 20: he went into the CIA as a field agent, and
Speaker 20: he was one of those guys he would have a
Speaker 20: hand of briefcase handcuffed to him and he would travel
Speaker 20: all over the world as a diplomatic carrier, taking documents
Speaker 20: to wherever they needed to go. So, during the time
Speaker 20: of the Kennedy assassination, my grandfather and my dad and
Speaker 20: my uncle, they were.
Speaker 4: Like twelve and fourteen years old.
Speaker 20: They came down to Dallas for like two days ate
Speaker 20: in the hotel room, my dad and my uncle, and
Speaker 20: then my grandfather.
Speaker 4: Left to go obviously to downtown Dallas. Kennedy got shot.
Speaker 20: My grandfather came back to the hotel, he grabbed my
Speaker 20: dad and my uncle.
Speaker 4: Said never talk about this again.
Speaker 20: And he was in a big panic, and my dad
Speaker 20: said he had all kinds of guns and weapons with him.
Speaker 20: He then faked his death. I think they went to
Speaker 20: New Jersey afterwards, or it might have been South Texas.
Speaker 20: I don't remember exactly, but he faked his death and
Speaker 20: said he had a heart attack and he had a
Speaker 20: death certificate and everything. Your granddad, my grandfather, Yeah, he
Speaker 20: was in the CIA.
Speaker 2: No I heard that part. Who's the he that faked
Speaker 2: his death your granddad, Yeah, my.
Speaker 4: Grandfather, And so he got shot. He was in the CIA.
Speaker 20: He faked his death and disappeared essentially because they killed
Speaker 20: everyone that was involved. And so they went to the
Speaker 20: Bahamas for two years, and my dad said that they
Speaker 20: lived there was the Seven Islands on the Bahama was
Speaker 20: where they hit out right, and there was a boat
Speaker 20: that would come and they would pick up all the
Speaker 20: kids on the Seven Islands and they would have class
Speaker 20: on the boat.
Speaker 4: It was school was on the boat. It was a little, tiny,
Speaker 4: little tiny boat.
Speaker 20: So after about two years things calmed down and my
Speaker 20: grandfather came back to the States with my dad and
Speaker 20: uncle shortly after that. Wherever my dad and uncle were
Speaker 20: two suits came and knocked on the door and said, hey,
Speaker 20: your dad died in a car accident. We're going to
Speaker 20: take you and your brother to New York to go
Speaker 20: live with your mom now. And so essentially the government
Speaker 20: just took my dad out, I mean, my grandfather.
Speaker 4: They killed my grandfather as soon as he came back
Speaker 4: to the States. My dad never saw his body.
Speaker 20: He never got to have any of his documents, never
Speaker 20: got to have any of his personal possessions.
Speaker 4: They just took him and took them up to their moms.
Speaker 20: And that was the last time my dad ever saw
Speaker 20: my grandfather.
Speaker 1: And then and you think that was just because of
Speaker 1: knowledge of the events that we're saying, he was there.
Speaker 4: My dad swore up and down that he was one
Speaker 4: of the shooters. And my grandfather was. He was a
Speaker 4: killer for the CIA.
Speaker 20: He was a he was an assassin when he was
Speaker 20: in the Carlson's Raiders. After he would kill the Japanese,
Speaker 20: he would take the butt of his rifle and he
Speaker 20: would smash all their teeth out, and he took all
Speaker 20: their teeth and put him in a jar. And my
Speaker 20: dad said that he would have the teeth on his
Speaker 20: bed mantle in a jar.
Speaker 4: It's like a trophy. And he said he always carried
Speaker 4: two two pistols on him.
Speaker 20: He would out forty five, forty five and a thirty
Speaker 20: eight special and he said he never those pistols never
Speaker 20: left his side, and.
Speaker 4: He's country all the time.
Speaker 20: And he said randomly suits would just on the door
Speaker 20: and they would hand my grandfather a big yellow envelope
Speaker 20: and one time my dad they handed my dad the
Speaker 20: envelopes they give this to your father.
Speaker 4: My dad opened it up one time and was just
Speaker 4: full one hundred dollar bills. You know.
Speaker 20: They were giving him money to do whatever he needed
Speaker 20: to do on the CIA.
Speaker 2: And what's that's crazy?
Speaker 1: What's your take on all the document stuff today? Which
Speaker 1: last night? What you're thoughe on that?
Speaker 29: Man?
Speaker 20: Well, there's so much to it, and there's it's it's
Speaker 20: hard to cipher through it, and everybody has their own
Speaker 20: different opinions. I haven't been following it too much, to
Speaker 20: be honest, but I'm trying to find I try to
Speaker 20: look up the ambassadors for Saudi Arabia because he was
Speaker 20: an ambassador for Saudi Arabia. He was also head of
Speaker 20: security added Embassy in Australia as well and I try
Speaker 20: to look a lot of it up, and I couldn't
Speaker 20: find his name, Don Robert Catlin.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if they just erased his.
Speaker 20: Name from everything or but I'm having trouble finding out it.
Speaker 20: We did my dad when my dad was still around,
Speaker 20: he hit up the Marine Corps and he got a
Speaker 20: bunch of his medals when he was in the Marine Corps.
Speaker 4: And I have those medals to this day in my room.
Speaker 4: But I haven't been.
Speaker 20: Following it so much because it's it's just a lot
Speaker 20: to cipher through, man, And and I don't know, Man,
Speaker 20: I just wanted to get it out there that Don
Speaker 20: Robert Catlan he was.
Speaker 4: He was one of the guys that was there.
Speaker 20: And uh, because there was there was like I think
Speaker 20: there was three shooters and then that there was probably
Speaker 20: three backup shooters. You know they had they had all
Speaker 20: kinds of backup plans. They like they were going to
Speaker 20: kill him no matter what.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, I appreciate you. Uh you're
Speaker 1: bringing that that story. That's wild. Yeah. They're saying that
Speaker 1: this the search function doesn't work very well. Uh, and
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense, like the documents are really
Speaker 1: hard to decipher in some cases. Eric, what's up, man,
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get these Roman callities to come in.
Speaker 4: Here, yo yo yo, uh huh. Yeah.
Speaker 22: So I'm actually gonna be going to Roman Catholic Inquiry tomorrow,
Speaker 22: probably the last one, since I'm kind of going back
Speaker 22: and forth between Orthodox and Roman Catholic but pretty sold
Speaker 22: on Orthodox and I've.
Speaker 4: Been living the church I've been going to in Franklin.
Speaker 22: But I actually was able to get this this group,
Speaker 22: this inquer group to discuss the difference between Orthodox and
Speaker 22: Roman Catholicism.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 22: I'm just curious, like if you were in that group.
Speaker 22: This is like a Catholic in quer group for anybody
Speaker 22: to come to. It could be an atheist, gnostic, whatever,
Speaker 22: it's for people to come and just ask questions.
Speaker 4: So probably gonna be my last one.
Speaker 22: Wanted to just see what they had to say about
Speaker 22: the you know, kind of their view on Orthodoxy at
Speaker 22: Eastern Orthodoxy. So what would be some good questions to ask?
Speaker 22: Like if you had all the knowledge that you had
Speaker 22: and you were there, you know, I don't know as
Speaker 22: much as you do, not even close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I would watch my video one
Speaker 1: dogmatic contradiction that ends Rome. How can it be necessary
Speaker 1: to believe in the temporal supremacy of the Roman bishop
Speaker 1: for salvation in thirteen eighty two or whatever them sunk
Speaker 1: them and after Vatican Two that's no longer necessary for salvation?
Speaker 1: How is that not a contradiction in dogma?
Speaker 2: Snake?
Speaker 1: None of these people will come to this romanc other
Speaker 1: guy says, I'm eating, I don't have time for this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he can sit there. He considered tweeting, and all
Speaker 1: these other guys are like, oh, I'm at work. Oh,
Speaker 1: you can tweet all day, but you can't just hop
Speaker 1: onto space and defend your positions.
Speaker 2: What's up, man?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 2: How about you? I'm good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 38: So I've been looking into a book from William Satui
Speaker 38: on like the CIA's influence on like Japanese media, like manga,
Speaker 38: anime and all this other stuff, and it seems like
Speaker 38: there's this huge like proponent to like push like Western
Speaker 38: feminism in pot Oh.
Speaker 2: Wow, what's the book? I never heard of this. It
Speaker 2: sounds interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about I don't know much about
Speaker 1: the CIA in Japan.
Speaker 2: So what's the book?
Speaker 39: Uh, it's the Culture Cold War the CI in World
Speaker 39: of Marks.
Speaker 1: And oh, you're talking about the Francis Sanders Saunder's book.
Speaker 4: And one by William Sisui.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I have the Saunders. But what's about William
Speaker 2: What William M.
Speaker 4: Susui? Media control?
Speaker 1: Can you spell that?
Speaker 4: Uh? T s u T s u I first name? William?
Speaker 2: Got it and it's media control?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Perfect.
Speaker 39: And it looks like he has like a bunch of
Speaker 39: papers posted in like academic journals and stuff in Japanese studies.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 4: Hello, Hey, all right, I have a question on the filioquid.
Speaker 39: Okay, So I understand that it subordinates the Holy Spirit
Speaker 39: because he doesn't share a property that the.
Speaker 4: Father and the Son do.
Speaker 13: What I'm having trouble trying to wrap my brain around
Speaker 13: is how we categorize hypostatic properties and why they're only
Speaker 13: in the positive.
Speaker 1: Well, because they pick out the unique positive characteristic of
Speaker 1: that person, So they couldn't be merely negative, you know,
Speaker 1: lacking attributes, because if you think about it, like each
Speaker 1: person has infinite lacking attributes, right, the Father is not
Speaker 1: Michael Lee Archangel. The Father is not Bob the Mechanic.
Speaker 1: So a negative attribute saying what it's not doesn't tell
Speaker 1: you hardly anything about what it is. And typically negative
Speaker 1: attribution or apapatic theology or via via negativa is what's
Speaker 1: applied to the divine essence, not the divine persons. So
Speaker 1: when we want to pick out persons, we need characteristics
Speaker 1: or categories or properties that tell us some kind of
Speaker 1: positive cataphatic value or content as to what they actually
Speaker 1: are or who they actually are. So when we speak
Speaker 1: of Father, the Cavedocians are pretty unanimous that the father
Speaker 1: is identified as source found, RK, N RK, cause, et cetera. Okay,
Speaker 1: so if that uniquely picks out well his positive characteristic
Speaker 1: of who he is as the person, then that cannot
Speaker 1: be shared because the campetition dictum is that a hypostatic
Speaker 1: property cannot be shared because it's unique to the person,
Speaker 1: but any other property must be shared because it's a
Speaker 1: common attribute of essence. So for example, divine love, divine
Speaker 1: love doesn't pick out one person because the father has love,
Speaker 1: the son has love, the spirit has love. So love
Speaker 1: is an attribute common to the triad, not a hyposthetic property,
Speaker 1: but to be generated is a unique property of the son.
Speaker 2: You see.
Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. Actually, thank you? Sure?
Speaker 2: Is that all?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 2: Thank you for your patience anytime. Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being a patient about the question because
Speaker 1: a lot of people are fussy about this malignant and
Speaker 1: he dropped off. So anybody want to come back, Any
Speaker 1: Roman Catholics, any Tradcats, any people who want to discuss
Speaker 1: the topics listed, any anybody else about the JFK stuff.
Speaker 1: So notice the Roman Catholics, He says, I'm you're single
Speaker 1: and childless. So I'm not going to come talk to you. Well,
Speaker 1: actually I'm married. So this is all they have? The
Speaker 1: Godfather three in John Courtney Murray. There's actually quite a
Speaker 1: few books. I mean it's not just those two books.
Speaker 1: There's many books, but I mean those are the books
Speaker 1: that kind of focus on these issues. Lost hedgem On
Speaker 1: by Ingdahl also gets into intelligence usage of religious schools
Speaker 1: and networks, and not just I mean Ingdall's book's not
Speaker 1: really dealing with the Roman Catholics. He's dealing with like
Speaker 1: evangelicals and Islamic networks like the Fetula goul In networks.
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Speaker 1: recommended that you watch the anime one Piece yesterday. Write
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Speaker 2: Writing that down.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts if the driver was the shooter?
Speaker 1: Do you mean one more backup? I don't know what
Speaker 1: you mean one more backup here. I don't know anything,
Speaker 1: Like I've not looked into the ballistics of what went
Speaker 1: down that day.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: You would probably want to look into some you know,
Speaker 1: like legit JFK researchers that would go into all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I usually, you know, it's it's kind of like the
Speaker 1: Big Nine event. People get all into.
Speaker 5: Like the what were the seismic registers on the day
Speaker 5: of the Big nine event? And what about this thermic nanotech?
Speaker 5: Like I don't know about thermite nanotech. I don't know
Speaker 5: about seismic registers, but I can read the geopolitical stuff
Speaker 5: that lets me figure out, Okay, who stands to gain
Speaker 5: from the Big nine event?
Speaker 2: Like, to me, that's way.
Speaker 1: More interesting than getting all into this like the technicalities
Speaker 1: of whatever.
Speaker 2: Not a single Roman Catholic would come discuss this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's pretty sad. Actually, that's it makes perfect sense, though.
Speaker 1: I think we did have one Catholic in you're asking questions,
Speaker 1: So props to that dude. But just everybody again take
Speaker 1: note that like none of them will we'll touch this
Speaker 1: this subject. I'll here's somebody Joseph, what's up?
Speaker 2: Hyeah, what's up?
Speaker 4: Oh g how are.
Speaker 17: I?
Speaker 4: Well? Thanks?
Speaker 17: I think your voice seems a little bit maybe it's
Speaker 17: an issue from my side, it seems what.
Speaker 4: Just the moment, Yeah, can you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 17: My my pustion is uh, I want to my thinking process, Uh,
Speaker 17: is it for those who object to the eternal generation
Speaker 17: and procession of the son of the Holy Spirit?
Speaker 4: Is it Is it a.
Speaker 17: Fair way to tackle that issue from by raising an
Speaker 17: equal objection to the eternal activity of the attributes of God? So,
Speaker 17: my my thinking process is if because because the objection.
Speaker 13: Implies that if we say the sun is.
Speaker 17: Generated and these proceeds eternally, that might imply cause or relationship.
Speaker 17: And for you know, people generally speaking, when they hear
Speaker 17: about coisality or generation, they think that chronologically you are
Speaker 17: not and then at some point in time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that's the area argument.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 17: So so if if, if if we object to the generation,
Speaker 17: the eternal generation and procession, then I think it is
Speaker 17: equally objectionable to raise that same objection to the eternal
Speaker 17: activity of the actress God because we have to ask
Speaker 17: at what point in time God's attribute became active.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've made this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why Unitarianism has difficulties that usually end
Speaker 1: up making some of the divine attributes contingent and necessary
Speaker 1: upon a created order.
Speaker 17: Okay, so you think it's a fair edgition to to
Speaker 17: to ask.
Speaker 1: Them, Yeah you can go in that Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: go in that direction. It's just that good luck trying
Speaker 1: to convince a Unitarian of understanding the argument.
Speaker 4: Okay, man, all right, yeah, but I.
Speaker 1: Think you're right, you're on the right track. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: had some we've had some discussions in the bat with
Speaker 1: in the back in the back a few years ago
Speaker 1: where we went that route. So all right, cool beans, dude,
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, A lot of fun today, great conversation.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for your recommendations, good questions. Nobody was
Speaker 1: all the insane people never came to the debate or
Speaker 1: to the chat, so that made it very cool and peaceful.
Speaker 4: H