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k A l I n E R. Now, maybe you're
not feeling a lot of sympathy for the FBI at
this moment, even after all of the discussion from the
last hour, but consider this, Okay, consider this. They are
still hiding details of Russia Gate. Oh wait, actually that
probably won't engender more sympathy. Sorry, right, So, I guess
if you have sympathy for the FBI already, this might
get rid of some of it, although probably not because
considering the way the FBI handled the whole Russia Gate
Russia Rush.
Speaker 1: Russ A collusion hoax.
Speaker 2: If you already have an opinion about how they handled
that poorly, you probably don't have much sympathy for the FBI,
and now in a report by Real Clear Investigations by
Aaron matte or Mattey, the FBI is still hiding critical
details on the Russia conspiracy investigation that engulfed Trump's first term.
Speaker 1: Get to that in a minute.
Speaker 2: First, let's pick up a call here from Lisa. Welcome
to the show, Lisa, Hello.
Speaker 3: Hello, Pete. I'm sorry, my connection is horrible. I'm in
the car, but I wanted to Mitch. I was yelling
at the radio. I'm like, remember Hillary, Yeah, Urby never
got busted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he said no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges
against her for her misdeeds, and that was deemed sufficient
to have cost her the election by the left. You know,
they were like, did Jim Comy had never come out
and said that, then she would have beaten Trump and
they don't have any problem with what she did, Right,
It's that Jim Comy told us, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it's another one. Yeah, there's a long list here
that was huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah at list. Yeah, no, I appreciate the call. There
is a long list that people have gone over in
the last hour. Lisa just added to it of reasons
why people do not trust the FBI, and haven't for decades,
but it has gotten way worse in the last ten years. So,
in response to a freedom of information request that was
filed by Real Clear Investigations back in August of twenty
twenty two, so almost three years ago, the FBI, more
than two years after getting the request, finally, on December thirty,
first released a document, a copy of a document, a
copy of a document that also was really really heavily redacted.
There's like almost nothing in the paperwork that they turned over.
And the document is the one that opened the unprecedented
counterintelligence probe of the sitting president as an agent of
the Russian government. Right, this was the source the electronic
communication dated May sixteenth, twenty seventeen, claimed to have an
articulable factual basis, so.
Speaker 1: A basis that is able to be articulated.
Speaker 2: An articulable factual basis, which is just a fancy word
for we're saying some stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, we got some facts.
Speaker 2: We can say them, but we don't want to say
them because it's classified, you know, hush hush, But that
they have an articulable factual basis to suspect that Donald
Trump wittingly or unwittingly was illegally acting on behalf of
Russia and accordingly posing threats to the national security of
the United States. Now tell me, how would that be
any different than the Joe Biden influence peddling operation. Why
was there never an investigation opened into Joe Biden. Okay,
maybe there was, and we just don't know about it.
Nobody's ever reported on it, nobody's ever leaked that out.
But I gotta believe at this point that nothing like
this has ever been done against Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Yet there's as much, at.
Speaker 2: Minimum and way more obviously evidence against Joe Biden being compromised,
unwittingly or wittingly acting on behalf of a foreign country
has been for years. We've been covering it for years.
The FBI's goal, according to the document, was to determine
if President Trump is or was directed by, controlled by,
and or coordinated activities with the Russian Federation. Again, swap
out Trump for Biden and swap out Russia for China,
and it's just as articulable effectual basis. It additionally sought
to uncover whether Trump and unnamed others obstructed any associated
FBI investigation. That is a reference to Crossfire Hurricane. The
initial FBI inquiry into the Trump campaign suspected cooperation with
an alleged Russian interference plot in the twenty sixteen election,
So this is separate. While Crossfire Hurricane was open July thirty, first,
twenty sixteen, had by that point focused on members in
Trump's orbit. A half a year or almost a year later,
May twenty seventeen, this probe was specifically targeted at Trump
himself during his fourth month in office. The investigation of
Trump was undertaken at the behest of the acting FBI
Director Andrew McCabe. And this was done a week after
Trump fired James Comy, which was Andy McCabe's mentor. And
this has all the odor of payback. Right, how dare
you fire Jim Comy, the great Patriot?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: How dare you fire my mentor? So I'm going to
avenge his firing. And McCabe opens up this second probe
because nobody would fire Jim Comey.
Speaker 1: Unless they were a Russian asset. Jim Comey was getting
too close to the truth.
Speaker 2: According to the declassified document, McCabe's decision was approved by
FBI assistant director Bill pre Stab pre Stab, which I
think isn't that Also, I thought that was something that
the Vatican put out for its clergy, the pre staff
that I'm sorry Bill Prestab, who had also signed off
on the opening of Crossfire Hurricane, so he's a twofer.
Jim Baker also approved it. Jim Baker was the FBI
General Counsel. Baker was a longtime friend of a man
named Michael Sussman. Michael Sussman was a lawyer for Hillary
Clinton's campaign and a key figure in the descemine of
Clinton funded disinformation to the FBI, which tried to tie
Trump to Russia falsely. This is why I say this
is the blob, right. It's not an individual doing these things.
It's a group of them knowing what the objective is.
In his FBI role, Baker personally circulated the conspiracy theory
manufactured by quote unquote researchers working with the Clinton campaign
that the Trump campaign and Russia were communicating via a
secret server. Remember that hoax. Remember that element of the hoax,
the Alpha Bank stuff and all.
Speaker 1: That's where all of that started. That was Baker.
Speaker 2: After leaving the FBI, Baker then went on to serve
as the general counsel the lawyer at Twitter, where he
backed the company's censorship of reporting on the contents of
Hunter Biden's laptop based on yet another con conspiracy theory
that the laptop files were Russian disinformation. See like it
is a web, but it's not a very large one.
The same people keep showing up. I have marveled at
this for years, Like all of the same people are
involved in the like Peter Struck and least a page right,
same thing. This group of people, they're like the the
Justice League or no, a better example is like you know,
the the CSI team, or like the homicide detectives on
your favorite procedural cop drama. That they are always the
ones that get called to the highest profile cases. They're
always the ones when they go on to the swat raid.
They're like the first ones through the door in the
least amount of armor. It makes no sense, but they're
always the ones, right that are involved in all of
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Let's go over and talk to Ray. Hello, Ray, Welcome.
Speaker 1: To the program.
Speaker 4: Hello Pete, Happy new year.
Speaker 1: Yeaes, sir to you too.
Speaker 4: I liked your opening segment and talking about people not
feeling for the sorry for the FBI and that sort
of thing. But I was wanting to say, is I
used to kind of feel this way, like you know,
in the mainstream media and the FBI, it's only the
top tier people that are the problem, and they got
some good people. I'm sure you remember those lines. But
I've got to the point to where now I don't
feel that way. You know, I feel like towards them,
just like I do the top tier people, you know,
the menions that work under them, the ancillary staff, because
you know they're they're getting their money from that company,
and you know they're they're hurting me. And also, you know,
I don't know if that's the right way or the
wrong way, but it's I think it's the human nature way.
And I would say I'm sorry, but that's the way
I feel, but instead I'll say, I'm sorry, that's the
way the media and the FBI made me feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like, I try to treat people as individuals, and so
I know that there are you know, good people in
the different organizations and outlets and agencies and the like.
But at an institutional level, they have they're reaping what
they've sown. Right, they brought this on themselves because of
the way they behaved and the refusal of a lot
of the rank and file to blow the whistle. Look,
my opinions on the media have not won me a
lot of friends inside media, you know, because I came
out of you know, reporting, and I knew a lot
of reporters, and I saw the way the business operation functions,
and it's not it's not good, and there needs to
be more people that stand up and say no, we're
not going to do this.
Speaker 1: No, that's wrong. But yeah, you're like.
Speaker 2: The idea you mentioned the good people on both sides,
you know, the Trump comment after the Charlottesville protests and
stuff like such an easily debunkable lie, and yet it
is still believed to be true by people in the
media and by almost half the country. I would submit
that get their news from those media outlets.
Speaker 4: It's right, I kind of, I kind of. It's kind
of comparable to the thing like you've got an army
led by a tyrant, whoever he might be. He's coming
over to kill you and your army, and you know,
you feel sorry for the soldiers that are having to
give their lives for them, but you know, it's either
you or them. That's kind of the way it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, And I think at this point that
this is why I'm of the opinion that the FBI
just needs to be dismantled and you know, look at
look into building something else. But like I say that
as one who tries to preserve and conserve institutions, that
that makes me a conservative, right, I don't think we
should just rip everything down for the latest fad ideology
or something. But the FBI has such a long history
of this kind of garbage that I'm just done with it.
And yeah, it's just and it's not gotten any better,
it's gotten worse. So I don't know how else to proceed.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, thank you for taking them, Yes, sir, all.
Speaker 1: Right, appreciate it. Thanks. Ray Crossfire Hurricane started.
Speaker 2: In May of twenty seventeen. Oh, sorry, that was the
July twenty sixteen, during the campaign. May twenty seventeen was
the second case that was opened. And this was opened
as a Foreign Agents Registration Act investigation, so a FARA
act or Pharah far This is what Hunter Biden was
going what should have been charged with, But then they
let the statute of limitations expire for him, right, Farah.
He was acting as a representative of a foreign government,
a foreign agent. That means you have to register as
an agent of that foreign entity if you are going
to lobby on their behalf. And he did not, And
so this was initially launched. McCabe launched this second probe
into Donald Trump. Sorry ew, but second, the second investigation
was a Farah investigation, and it was launched as a
full investigation, which would have granted them sweeping surveillance powers.
This is a sitting president that the FBI did this too.
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an update on the apparently never ending scandal revolving around
the FBI and it's multiple investigations. It's attempted coup. I
don't really know any other way to describe it. Of
Donald Trump with the Russia and Russia Gate, Russia hoax,
the Steele dossier, garbage, the Alpha Bank garbage, all of it.
This piece by Aaron Mattei. FBI is still hiding details
of Russia Gate. According to newly released documents. They filed
freedom of information requests and they've been fighting for two
years to get this document or these documents, and most
of this stuff in the documents is redacted. While the
declassified documents record the FBI's theory that then President Trump
may be involved in illegal and maybe even trees in
this behavior, the articulable factual basis for the suspicion is redacted.
So the very lynch pin right, the reason why they
said they had essentially probable cause, right, they had a
reason for this. There is a factual basis that we
can totally tell you about, and here it is, but
nobody can see it.
Speaker 1: That's redacted.
Speaker 2: Only a couple of paragraphs from the six page document
were not redacted, so out of six pages, they got
like three or four paragraphs. Along with Crossfire Hurricane, the
May twenty seventeen counterintelligence probe got folded into the Special
Council investigation that was led by Robert Muller, who was
appointed just one day after the FBI began portraying Trump
internally as a possible Russian agent or conspirator. Muller's final
report quote did not establish that members of the Trump
campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its
election interference activity. That is something that most Democrats do
not know. They still to this day believe that Russia
coordinated with Trump to help him win the election with
like one hundred thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads or something.
Asked about his reasoning for opening the probe and related matters,
Andrew McCabe, who now works as an on air commentator
at CNN, did not respond to real clear investigations emailed questions.
Details about the FBI's motivation, though, can be puzzled together
here based on other public disclosures. For example, in twenty
nineteen January twenty nineteen, The New York Times did a
story which first revealed the FBI's decision to investigate Trump
the Steele Dossier, and that was among the factors that
fueled the FBI's concerns. The Steele Dossier, a collection of
conspiracy theories funded by Hillary Clinton's camp completely fabricated. Oh
and they also knew that the source material for this
was not to be believed thanks to Igor Chenko whatever
his name was, who told them, Hey, this Igor Denchenko
was his name, Who was like, yeah, that's still dossier's
stuff is all crap because that's Steele was quoting Igor
and Igor was.
Speaker 1: Like, I didn't know. I didn't say that.
Speaker 2: They knew this all was garbage, but it didn't matter, right.
The wrap up smear, as Nancy Pelosi might call it.
A previously disclosed document also also shows that the former
CIA director John Brennan, who was a communist who insistently
advanced the Trump Russia conspiracy theory, told Barack Obama while
Obama was still president in July of twenty sixteen. Brennan
told Obama that the Clinton camp was planning to tie
Trump to Russia, so they knew what Hillary was up to. Remember,
Mark Elias also involved in all of this. I think
I'm going to mention his name in the next hour
two So it's a twofer from Mark Elias. We do
know he loves getting his name mentioned. Anyway, Hillary Clinton's
campaign was going to try to tie Trump to Russia.
Brennan knew it. Brennan told Obama, now, why did Hillary
want to do that? According to the documents, the purpose
was to distract attention from the controversy over Hillary Clinton's
use of the server, the private server, the building, and
the secreting away of this server, which, by the way,
Obama knew about.
Speaker 1: They all knew they.
Speaker 2: Were getting emails from her server email address. They knew this, right,
they were using her home Brew server as a way
to avoid public scrutiny. I mean, fine, yes, some foreign governments,
what did the dojsay is like, it is extremely likely
that they got hacked. They were that they these things
were being monitored because they didn't have the protections necessary,
the encryption and all of that that you have with
these top secret communication channels that the government sets up
for a secretary of state. But she didn't want her
emails to be foyd Freedom of Information Act. She didn't
want people to be able to come and say, give
me all of your emails on this particular topic, like oh,
I don't know the Clinton Foundation, or oh I don't
know your daughter's wedding seating chart, right, like the really,
oh your yoga schedule?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: This is what she claimed she used her server for
in a cover story so bizarrely stupid that only the
media would believe it.
Speaker 1: And Democrats. But I repeat myself.
Speaker 2: So that's why the Clinton camp pursued the Steele dossier.
Brennan knew it. He told Obama. It was a distraction
away from the scandal about her server. It wasn't just
her emails, it was the existence of the server. I
have said this for years. The server is the smoking gun.
There is no reason to build your own server except
to wipe it, to have complete control over that data
so nobody can ever get it. If you were using
just a Gmail or a Yahoo account, they would be
able to get that, get the email information off of it,
because you don't own the server. But if you own
the server, you control the server, and that means you
can wipe it like with the cloth. All right, if
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I'm seeing on Twitter formerly known as x Molly Hemingway
sums up the real Clear investigation story fussly moments ago.
Speaker 1: Two minutes ago. Actually, she tweeted out the.
Speaker 2: FBI opened the Trump Russia investigation for no reason, then
continued it despite it going nowhere, then leaked its existence
for political gain, and then opened another probe on Trump.
But is hiding why, Probably because it was over him
firing Comy.
Speaker 1: It's just insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the way this looks that Andy McCabe
opened up the second investigation into Donald Trump the day
after Comy got fired because Comy was his friend and
his mentor, and so this was to get Trump. And
that's the way they weaponized the FBI against Trump again.
And I say this as somebody who was not a
fan of Donald Trump. I just went where the evidence led,
and this.
Speaker 1: Is where it leads.
Speaker 2: It's all very clear. It's complex, Don't get me wrong.
There are a lot of people moving parts and all
of this stuff. But every single step along the way
you have people that were behaving in a way to
jam up Donald Trump. And god only knows if they
had found anything that was actionable. That's what's really amazing
in all of this is how many investigations into Donald
Trump were launched. And they they get Maniford right, and
Flynn for like, Flynn is just like that stuff's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yes, he should get a pardon.
Speaker 2: Maniford I was never a fan of He was a
little too close to the to the Ukraine corruption over there,
and when they brought him on to the Trump campaign.
I was like, Eh, that's probably not a great idea.
But that was like, Oh, look, he's got all these
you know, these Russia adjacent kinds of people. And so
when a lot of Trump supporters were saying, you know,
Robert Mueller shouldn't do his investigation, and Horowitz that we
don't need it and it's all just lies and all this,
I said, I want the investigations. I want more information.
I want to read this stuff when they find it out.
And look at where we are now. When they did
all of this stuff, what did they yield? Nothing? And
now I get to use that in my argument, which
is why I wanted them to do it. Back to
the Real Clear investigation story, July of twenty sixteen, John
Brennan tells Obama that the Clinton campaign was planning to
try to tie Trump to Russia to distract attention from
the controversy Hillary's use of private email server while serving
as Secretary of State. By that point, the Clinton campaign
was already paying for the fabricated reports produced by Christopher Steele,
who made contact with the FBI as early as July fifth,
twenty sixteen. Although the newly declassified document attempts to suggest
that the FBI had actionable intelligence to suspect Trump of
being a Russian agent. McCabe's subsequent comments indicate that there
was no such evidence on offer. Instead, McCabe has said
that his counterintelligence probe of Trump was primarily motivated by
the president's firing of Komi. McCabe therefore had no evidence
that Trump had a connection to Russia, and in fact
could only wonder if.
Speaker 1: There was one.
Speaker 2: To use his own words, he could I just wondered
if there was a connection, because that's allbviously. What it
couldn't be that Donald Trump, a mercurial, thin skinned kind
of a guy, took great umbrage at Komy and the
way he was leaking all of this stuff to damage
Donald Trump, which was very obvious from the very beginning.
But because Trump had fired Comy, whose FBI was already
investigating Trump's campaign for Russian ties and relying on the
Clinton funded Steele dossier in the process, McCabe decided that
he had grounds to order an espionage investigation of the
commander in chief. The piece goes on to say, later
is a very lengthy piece. By that I'm giving you
the highlights with the official predicate for the May twenty
seventeen investigation still redacted by the FBI. McCabe's public statements
offer the only insider window into why it was actually opened.
In all of the investigations related to alleged Russian interference
to date, the Justice Department has a void the question.
Despite inheriting McCabe's probe and debunking claims of a Trump
Russia conspiracy, Special Counsel Mueller made no mention of the
Trump as a Russian agent theory in his final report
in March of twenty nineteen, without informing the public. The
FBI closed down the Trump counterintelligence investigation the following month.
An inquiry led by Michael Horowitz, the Inspector General, into
the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, also ignored McCabe's decision to investigate
Trump as an agent of Russia, and in the Durham report,
they claimed that McCabe's probe was outside of their purview,
so they didn't look into it either. When it comes
to Crossfire Hurricane, Durham's report concluded that the FBI did
not have a legitimate basis to launch that probe, right
so they were willing to take a look at that one,
but not McCabe's. While the original Trump Ussia investigation has
been discredited, the public remains in the dark about why
the FBI launched the follow up counterintelligence probe that targeted
Trump himself while he was newly in the White House,
and what ends it took to pursue it. All right,
that'll do it for this episode.
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