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Speaker 4: All right, back here obviously talking Brian Kelly getting.
Speaker 5: Fired at LSU.
Speaker 4: Now searching for your next football coach in the next
couple of weeks, and probably in the next segment is
when we're going to start to maybe speculate and throw
out some names and who could.
Speaker 5: Be the next head coach of the Tigers.
Speaker 4: Will take another look here what the Brian Kelly tenure
look like. He comes in in twenty twenty two, ten
and four overall six and two in league play, of course,
gets to the SEC championship game, loses to Georgia the
next year twenty twenty three ten and three, six and
two in league play, twenty twenty four nine and four
overall five and three in league play, and this year
five and three, two and three in the SEC. A
total win loss record at LSU thirty four and fourteen
in conference play nineteen and ten. So like those numbers
in themselves, not up to the standard of what you
want to get done at LSU, but you know, certainly
not The worst record that you've seen where it goes
bad is versus top twenty five teams, five and eleven.
That's what cannot happen, is you going five and eleven
against the best teams that you play. You started twenty
twenty two not ranked and you got up to number
sixteen in the final poll.
Speaker 5: Good job after that. You never replicated that.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three you were number five preseason, You
finished number twelve in twenty twenty four preseason thirteen.
Speaker 5: You finished not ranked this year number nine in.
Speaker 4: The preseason, and a lot of people thought that was
maybe a little too low because of what you had
coming back, and you're not ranked right now and it's
going to take a lot for you to fight your
way back into the top twenty five. So you look
at like the overall record, it can be misleading because
even like the conference record, it's nineteen and ten.
Speaker 5: It's not awful, but it's awful for LSU standards.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: You want to be in the conversation.
Speaker 4: You want to have a seat at the table, and
the seat is at the SEC championship game.
Speaker 5: They're in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: You get there your first year, and you had opportunities,
certainly last year, and you don't get back to play
for an SEC championship game. And again five and eleven
versus top twenty five teams.
Speaker 2: It's not good, Jake, not good at all. Now look
at that overall record too. We talked about it, how
you know, certainly not nearly up to the standard that
has been set here at LSU. And it just seemed
like every year was a right. I don't know, they
kept getting a pass for excuses, right, whether it's talent
or whether it's whatever it is. But I look at
twenty twenty three season, seriously, if Jaydon Daniels didn't put
on a superman cape and play the quarterback position for
the LSG Tigers and be able to score at any
given time. I literally played probably one of the best
seasons at quarterback in college football history. What is that record?
They're a six and six football team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's games that Jaydon so bad with my leak
and with BTJ for sure.
Speaker 4: But to your point, how many games did he just say, Hey,
I'm gonna go eighty five real quick on the ground,
Hey I'm gonna throw for three thirty.
Speaker 2: You don't get that very often, like an offense that
it's like you feel come like once they step on
the field, no matter if they get it on their
own half yard line or they get on the fifth whatever,
it is like you were like, yeah, they're gonna score.
They're going to at least get three out of this thing.
So they don't get three a lot, theyll probably score
touch that most time. I'm just saying, you look at
the overall record and like, Okay, it's not up to
the standard, but it's still not bad. It could have
been what three games and six games in the opposite
direction too. Yeah, that Jaydon Daniels literally doesn't have a
supermank even No, you can't take that away, got it.
He got him to come there, great, but that was
a quite an anomaly of a player and an offense
in college football. So I think it just kind of
adds to what everybody's thinking that it's not a good
enough record and it probably should have been a little
bit worse.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, people already speculating in the chat like
maybe some names that they want there before we get
to names then, and it's going to be in the
next segment. I think you do have to take a
look at some of your established head coaches and how
it's gone for them in this new day and age
that we're in in college football, in college athletics. You
look at Dabo Sweeney, you look at coach Saban, who
he wanted, he didn't want any part of that wasn't
the game that he grew up loving and won multiple championships.
He still Saban still, No, he still he talks about
it often. Could he still go out there and you know,
be successful, Yeah, probably so, but I don't even know
to his standard if he could, uh, you know, Brian
Kelly and we could go Mike Gundy, we could go
on and on and on and get a list. Right, Like,
it's different. It is different now, and so when you
start to look at it, this can't be a look
at this resume higher now you got to have things
on your resume. But look, when you brought Brian Kelly in, like, yeah,
there was excitement because of all the wins that he
had had and what he had done at Notre Dame,
and he had played for a national championship. And at
the time, I think there was only three current coaches
that had national championships. So it wasn't like the list
was long as far as the people that you could
get here. And you know, Jimbo Fisher was one of them,
and Scott talked with Jimbo, and Jimbo decided to stay
at A and M. So you even talked to one
of those guys, right, and so like that was a
good resume and it can get you excited. And that
was really when college football was starting to change. Like now,
like you take a look at, man, this guy for
the last fifteen years has done this. I just don't
think it means as much because we're in a different time,
we're in a different landscape. I'm not saying like you
got to have something on your resume that is the
last four years relevant, like the last four years impressive.
Speaker 2: And we have no idea what direction LSU is going
to go. I think we don't even know right now
who's going to be the final say in that decision
making process. Will it be Woodward? I don't know. There's
all sorts of gossip. There's all sorts of rumors happening
right now, and at this point in time, that's what
it is. I mean, it's speculation. Was Woodward involved in
the Brian Kelly deal? Was that they did the board
and the governor and all these different things happen. What
has actually taken place, That kind of truth will reveal itself.
But who is going to be in charge of making
this hire is the big question? And what will they
be looking for? We can sit here and say what
we hope, We hope it's you know this or that,
But I can tell you the one thing you cannot
do is handcuff yourself to another similar type contract. Right
that is something that can handicap a entire organization. I mean,
Jimmy Sexton right now has got to be licking his chops.
I mean, my god, the openings, the vacancies. He owns
half of them contracts in college. I personally like, we
don't go like the established, long term, established at one play,
like the James Franklin type route. That's that's something you
cannot do. I think it's gonna be a younger go
please say no, please, ain't not I know, And then
of course I know Lane Kiffin is everybody's Lankiff and
lang Kiff and link Kiffin. By do we really like
to get to get Lane kiffen? You know, you have
to do a similar type contract that you just did.
And you're going to be in a bidding war with
Ole miss You're going to be in a bidding war
with Florida. So I gotta be careful what you wish
for there. Not saying it can't work out, but there's
a lot of options out there, and this is one
where whoever's making the decision just can't take the flashy
first person. We've done that. We did that already, like
the guy that's going to be in the whole fame
and m established and okay, cool, Well, let's figure out
who's a really really good football coach, A guy that
knows Ball, a guy that is involved in every aspect,
the guy that his life is football.
Speaker 4: Like Jim Harball type. I'm not saying Jim Harball. Look,
he's quirky, I know, but that type. Like when Jim
Harball speaks, it's only in football terms.
Speaker 5: It is all he knows.
Speaker 2: And I want a guy that comes in and is
going to command a room with respect, not with talk,
you know what I mean. The guy that comes in
and it's like, you don't want to mess with this guy.
You don't want to cross this guy because he's going
to establish boundaries. I want a guy that comes in
and establishes the boundaries with the administration on the front end.
Look into that office and you have an interview and
they're like, this is our guy. I don't know who
that is. That guy can come from a small school.
I don't care. Yeah, I don't care if it's not
the flashy guy. Oh No, I want a guy that
loves me ball there can commit to this state and
commit to those three letters on the Jersey attack, I
don't have the answer.
Speaker 5: Every day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. It's Jim Harba.
Speaker 2: Love that. Yeah, So we got a we got like
a gossip list. Uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hots.
Speaker 4: In the next segment, we'll spend some time on that.
There's some chat about like what the yel Su job
is inside our bout you four job.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: And the names now are like email addresses, so I
don't I don't know the name e MSA.
Speaker 5: Is that in the midstream ads?
Speaker 4: Uh? Okay, I put it together one two, three four.
I'll disagree with you that the Tennessee job is on
the same level as the LSU job. And look, you're
entitled to that opinion. Tennessee is a good job, So
I'm not disagreeing there. Here's why LSU is a top
three job. As we just were shown last night. There's
a deep desire to be great. Fifty three million dollar buyout,
We'll find a way.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: You look at Tiger Stadium, it's.
Speaker 4: Got whatever bell and whistle you have to add to
your stadium, it's got it.
Speaker 5: When you look.
Speaker 4: At what they spent on the roster this year, when
you look at the National Championship access, when you look
at outside of Alabama, it's Lshue and Ohio State that
are tied for the second most nat is last twenty
five years. Right, So if you're in a group with Alabama,
Ohio State. You're doing something right in college football. You
are without question the big dog in the state of Louisiana.
And look, there's some good football. Two's a great football team.
I got a great coach and they got they got
Jimmy's and Joe's for sure. So not going shade, but
that part is what it is. In per capita, Louisiana
has the most players in the National Football League. You've
got a talent pull to choose from, unlike anybody else,
right because Tennessee, Tennessee does not have that, Like the
state of Tennessee.
Speaker 5: Doesn't have that. Now the state of Georgia it does.
Speaker 4: But you've got teams that are certainly close enough, even
out of state teams that are going to pull themselves
into your state. And hey, Georgia, TeX's number eight team
in the country right now. So you have competition. Florida,
great high school football. You've got competition, I would say
Ohio and Ohio State is probably the only comp that
I would have in Ohio State.
Speaker 5: Kind of a standard of college football.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So, like all those things paired together, the talent that
you have, the resources, you have, the proof.
Speaker 5: And winning championships all of that.
Speaker 4: Like, no matter where you go in this state, tell
a shoe fan Shreveport, Lafayette, Homa, New Orleans.
Speaker 5: Baton, Rouge, Monroe, doesn't matter. There's LSU everywhere.
Speaker 4: So with what the LSU job is, knowing that you're
going to have Tiger Stadium, and you're going to have
Louisiana to choose from, and you're going to have everything
that you want, need, desire. It's a top three job
in my opinion, top five no matter who you ask
in the country. So your job's not like other jobs,
and you should treat it as such. You should have
the confidence to go in and speak to whoever you
want to speak to, not in a cocky way, but
in a confident way, and knowing you should not settle
for anything, knowing that you should be able to compete
for whatever coach you want and the right coach. And
that's on the LSU brass to be able to decide.
Speaker 5: Who that is. And there's a lot of rumors who
that's going to be. We don't know. You don't have
a school president right now. That's troublesome.
Speaker 4: One's coming probably in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: That's the word say. We hadn't had a president for.
Speaker 4: Since May, since May when when to announced he was
going to Rutgers. So you got an opportunity to do
whatever you want to do because you are LSU.
Speaker 5: Now you got to go out there and do it.
Speaker 2: You got to execute, and you got to get it right.
You got to get it right because like I mean,
there's there is already probably going to be a pretty
big exodus of talent and players this year. I would
think any that's any that's any program, that's any time
you get a coaching shift, a coaching change, because there's
going to be a window now that guys can transfer
with no repercussions or anything like that. But if you
get it right, you have an opportunity to mitigate that.
For one. But we got to see, we got to
see who's making that decision. Like you said, there's no
president at LSU right now. That's why they're at the board.
And the reports at least this is you know, not
not confirmed, and the reports at least that the governor,
Landry or supervisors they all met trying to figure out
everyone's trying to get the game plan. But there's gonna
be a lot of names. There's gonna be a lot
of rumors, there's gonna be a lot of speculation. This
thing isn't going to happen fast. Now, all we can
do is support Frank Wilson, who's the interim head coach
right now, and cheer for the boys wearing LSU on
the helmet the rest of the season, and then hopefully internally,
more stuff will come out every single day, more and
more information every single week. Hopefully we get that right,
hopefully the process. But to Jake's point, LSU is one
of the top three jobs in the country when it
comes to college football, because of the fan base, because
of the support, because of the talent pool, because of
being the only big school in the state that.
Speaker 4: Has a deep desire to be great in football, deep desire,
a history, a recent history, a success, three national championship
since two thousand, another appearance, multiple Heisman.
Speaker 2: Winners like that says the you know, multiple always having
one of the at least the top one, two or
three NFL guys, guys in the NFL from LSU, that's
all there. That's not at other places. That's not Tennessee.
Those two are not the same. Now Tennessee is a
great job, but LSU is an elite job. You should
be have that confidence to go and say we can't
we if we want it, we can go pull anybody.
But I just would warn them not always. Don't always
go for the flashy guy. Yeah, do your recruiting. You
gotta understand that you got to look into whoever, look
inside of them, look in their heart, see what they
want to like how they've run a program and has
to be somebody that comes in and resets the standard,
resets that grit that we talk about. You said it
on Twitter great last night. It's got to be changed.
The mentality we too many times in the last couple
of years since Kelly has been here, we have been
the nail and not the hammer. That has to change.
That's the embarrassing part. That's the part that pisss off
former players, pisses off fans that have seen it. Even
if we lost the game, that team was still beat up. Yes,
that team knew they played LSU. That team did not
have their fans overtake a student section. You know, while
you know why people are leaving. Yeah, okay, you got it. Traffic,
weather wasn't great, you know, the game day experiit like whatever,
TV is great, awesome, but at some point the games
became not fun to watch. It wasn't as good. It
wasn't as good as people expected it to be. Yeah, sure,
you're always gonna have people problem with people leaving early,
but people leaven that early. I can't blame him. Hell
I was I did it okay? Like the problem. I
sat there in South Carolina and I watched the first
half and I'm like, man, this isn't even fun to
watch like this, This is not like, this isn't us,
This isn't.
Speaker 5: Who like I knows LSU.
Speaker 2: So whoever we bring in has to reset that standard,
has to reset that mentality and let people know that
if we are if LSU is not the hammer, there's
an issue.
Speaker 4: Changes need to be made. Yeah, and there's bright spots
on this roster. There really is. Like you go back
and even this tape, like there was finally some things
that change. It was strangely enough, there was enough. Yeah,
there was enough. Takeaways. Now you've got some issues and
some spots. Do not get me wrong, you have got
some issues, but there's bright spots. And whoever comes in
has got to try to save those bright spots, change
the culture and bring in some bright spots. Like think
about the guys you brought in the defensive backfield. Those
guys are that guys are giving you everything they got.
They've been in LSU for months, not years, months, and
it looks like it means more to them than almost
anybody out there. Like aj Halsey definitely got a stinger
in the first half.
Speaker 2: He's an absolute dog.
Speaker 4: He came back in the second half. I'm like, oh man,
he might he might have to play a little timid here.
First play he was involved in, he knocks the runner
three yards out of bounds.
Speaker 2: Like that guy he may play on the goal line here,
save the touchdown. That guy gets it. Man, that guy
is a dog.
Speaker 4: Like if he just gets here and he can do that,
that's that's who he is. But now you got to
demand that. Everybody's like that. Everybody has that right. The
next head coach has to non negotiable when you have
that meeting with him, Get.
Speaker 5: That and bring that back LSU football.
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went wrong, how we got here in all of that,
and all the things that didn't happen that needed to
happen that just never did, and you know, fully being
bought into, what.
Speaker 5: This job is, what this job deserves, and all of that.
Speaker 4: But there's going to be speculation over the next couple
of days and weeks because not only is LSU open,
but there is a host of jobs that are open.
You have Florida, you have Penn State, you have Arkansas,
you have Oklahoma State. You have all these jobs, and
you're not in the same market as coaches that Oklahoma
State and Arkansas are in. That's not disrespectful, that's just
the truth. That's just cold hard facts. You are probably
gonna be in some of the conversations with whoever Penn
State and Florida.
Speaker 5: Are in on now.
Speaker 4: Do I have LSU one, probably, Penn State two, Florida
three in that I do, and I think a lot
of people would or you know, some version of LSU
one and Penn State Florida, depending on how you want
to put those in those spots. Okay, so you're gonna
have to have an ear to the ground. You're gonna
have to find out what all the movers and shakers
are saying. You're gonna have to find out, you know
your list, what's their list? And what does all of
that look like. Okay, what do we think they're looking for?
What do we think is realistic in their next hire?
I think we laid out You can't just go look
at the resume from fifteen years in the totality of
it and what they've done the last fifteen years. Last
fifteen years don't matter, They do not matter. The game
has changed, it changed four or five years ago. What
have you done for me lately is the conversation we
need to have because lately is what the game is now.
Speaker 5: What can you do moving forward?
Speaker 4: What have you adapted to because there's so many coaches
that have impressive resumes, but they have not adapted to
what you have to do now. That's not the only thing,
because like we said, like you got to come here
because you want to come here and make it better
and fully buy in, shut the door, lock it, and
throw away the key, like we said in our number
one and get ready to work your ass off. Just
because this is the best job doesn't mean it's an
easy job. That expectation is there because it was set.
This isn't a country club job. That's not what this
job is. This is a two gridded to be pretty job.
That's got to be your mentality. And if it's not,
don't come here. You don't need to be here. If
you don't want to be in the building past five thirty,
if you don't want to be here during the off season,
if you don't want to be here during the bye weekend,
this is not the job for you. You got to
want to be here and it's got to be family,
LSU football, those are it. Those those are the things
that are your priorities. So we when we think about it,
when we start to think about possibilities, is their names?
Speaker 5: Is there just a general direction that you want to
go in.
Speaker 2: Well, look, we kind of talked about we were talking
about a different job open and we were talking about
Florida last week after where was it two weeks ago,
after Billy and Navyer got fired. We were talking about
like the coaches that are doing so well and about
how those mostly coaches that you would look at right
now aren't even an option because they're so ingrained into
that school. You talked about Clark Lee, Like Clark Lee
is Vanderbilt, Yeah, through and through, no doubt. Brient Key
like Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech through and through.
Speaker 4: Like that's what you know about that man from the
very first conversation you have about it.
Speaker 2: Right, So you got all these guys that would be
great candidates. But in this day and age in college
football within I l like these schools that have not
been able to compete and be relevant now can with
the right leader, like sometimes our right leader, Like just
like the two examples we just gave, like those guys
more than likely. I mean, never say never, but like
Vanderbilt's gonna pay them, Georgia Tech, it's gonna pay yep.
And that place means something to this place means something
like so you're not going to find so yeah, I
mean there's I mean, you could start listening off names
and you're no one's going to be wrong right now.
If you start, let's leave. If you say Gruden, You're
not gonna be wrong. You say it just for fun,
You say you can.
Speaker 4: But I don't need to see any more bad edits
of John Gruden in any college football.
Speaker 2: GPT has been busy over the last making so many
different images.
Speaker 5: My god, I love DoD love John Gruden. He's awesome
to listen to, like his football mind.
Speaker 4: But no, no, it's not we're talking about We're not
talking about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously right now that the names being
thrown out there, I mean, Liane Kiffin's at the top
of everybody's list being thrown out there. Whether he's going
to be interested or not. I know the price tag
is going to be high. I know his agent's slicking
his lips right now for sure. Other names being thrown
out there. Dan Lanning, we talked about you were you
were your guy from mis Zoo with two z's M
I Z, M I Z whatever. Don't you thank you?
I'll admit, probably decent coach.
Speaker 5: You think, mm hmm, you think Dranks previs coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was trying to think outside the box a
little bit too, of course, all just like thinking, just
pulling stuff out out of the air. Coming off a
big win two weeks ago. About the about the cat
over in Louisville.
Speaker 5: Jeff Brown played played there, you know, plays very Louisville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's going to be uh that is
solid after at some point he think he's I think
I looked it up. He's like the anti James Franklin.
He's four and one against top five opponents in his
career at Perdue in Louisville. Yeah, yeah, James Franklin. He
is obviously somebody that played at Louisville.
Speaker 4: His brother Brian, who you know you played with with
teammates with uh, he's the off the coordinator. He played
at Louisville. So like it means a lot to them.
He's making five point six, I believe million this year,
so obviously like a place like Elas, she would give
him about double his money, you know, but that place again,
like Clark Lee played at Vanderbilt, Brent Key played at
Georgie Tech, Jeff Brown played at Louisville. And I'm not
saying it's the only way, because, like you know, we've
seen that not work in a lot.
Speaker 5: Of places before.
Speaker 4: But my whole point in bringing that up is it
would be very difficult, I think, to get them away
from their school for su ESPN dot Com gave out
some of who they think potentially could be the list,
and they gave out five candidates. Ole Miss coach Lane
Kiffin to Lane coach John Sumrow, Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman,
Georgia Tech coach Brent Key, Missouri coach Eli Drinkwoitz.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 4: I I don't know, like for Marcus Freeman, Like, I.
Speaker 2: Just don't think we've gone down to Notre Day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think Marm's a hell of a football coach.
I think Marcus Freeman gets the times that we're in.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 4: I think Marcus Freeman would do better than than what
you've been the last couple of years.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 4: I just think Marcus gets it. But you just went
down that same path. Yeah, I just I don't think
the optics pretty happy a Notre Dame too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the optic is just going with
just the Notre Dame aspect of thanks certainly wouldn't be
great for me. I like Marcus things a hell of
a coach. Played against him? Do you run him over?
I mean you get him good pro? Probably? This guy
says this guy, this guy probably did he play on
the team I played against. Look, I had crushed him.
Speaker 5: I had one trick in my bag and that's what
it was.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, our chat is lighting up right now. For
Kelvin Shepard. Love him. He's been a decordinator for half
a season too far.
Speaker 5: Love Kelvin Chef loves the NFL.
Speaker 4: I just want to let y'all know good owner loves
the NFL, the National Football League, and that's the league
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Speaker 2: Wants to be a coach in.
Speaker 5: Chef's awesome, He's incredible, and if he.
Speaker 4: Ever wanted to be a head coach, anybody'd be lucky
to have him. But I think he really enjoys being
the defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions a lot.
Speaker 2: You can tell. Yeah, it's like he's having a little
fun out there.
Speaker 4: So of these names, John Sumral obviously is different because
I mean, Lane's in the SEC Marcus rooms at Notre Dame.
Brin Key has Georgia Tech, is the top ten team
in the country at the ACC and drinks an SEC coach.
I look, I think a lot of Eli Drinkwitz. Y'all
know that you'all heard me talk about him before. I
think's the hell of a football coach. He's won double
digit games back to back years in Missoo, He's going
to do it again this year. So Thing Drink is
certainly a candidate that you should consider Brin Keys, somebody
that if you want to you want to get back
to the DNA of what L s U football was,
Brent Key is probably the best answer there. Uh, We've
already talked about Marcus Freeman and we'll continue to talk
about Lane Kiffen. But John Sumraw is certainly a name
to pay attention to because he's probably the biggest name
of the group of six guys right to make that
jump to the power for like, he's the hottest name there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just yeah, we're gonna be interested on who
is going to be making that decision, so we'll be
excited to figure it out for right now, let's go
Frank all right, those boys, Right.
Speaker 5: We do have some more L s U news.
Speaker 4: As we said at the beginning of the show, Matt said,
it's going to continue to come throughout the day.
Speaker 5: We'll give you the latest and the greatest as we uh.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get through. We're gonna break down the game
as well.
Speaker 4: We find out a new nugget here in the the
L s U Football program, and we'll have that for
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Speaker 3: Com from the locker room.
Speaker 1: To the airwaves, gets off the bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back, Yeah no TV here live from
the Raising Kines studio. This just comes across the wire.
I saw DELI had it maybe first, doesn't really matter.
Pete Damill had it as well. Has dismissed the offensive coordinator,
Joe Sloan. The move comes with LSU ranked at number
twelve on offense in the SEC.
Speaker 5: Of course, he spent four years on the staff.
Speaker 4: A couple of quarterback coach and a couple as co
offensive coordinator, even though he was obviously the play caller.
Lshu's offense was among the top ten and passing offense
and top twenty five in total offense in the country
last year under Sloan. But of course those numbers have
dipped here this season, and it's been egregious some of
the things that we've seen on film. It's been some
elementary stuff, and it's been things that just can't happen
like the other night. And again, we're not gonna get
into the breakdown the game like we want to today
because obviously the newser head coach gets fired but at
some point, certainly with the bye week and us having
some extra time here, we'll get into it. When we
show you the passing chart of this game. You're not
gonna believe us. You're just not going to You're gonna say, no,
that's just. Oh you gave Harlowe your two year old
daughter a marker and said, hey, place dots on this
piece of paper.
Speaker 5: But you can't do it in the middle. You can't
do it.
Speaker 4: There's there's tape, crime scene tape in the middle of
the football field, and you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't put a dot there. That's what it looks
like because.
Speaker 2: It wasn't good.
Speaker 4: The RPO stuff, the behind the stick stuff, the screen
passes on third and seven, the draws on third in
a country mile, just.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 5: He got into a point where there.
Speaker 2: Was no like it was just the offense was you know,
I'm not even gonna say that he needs to be
more creative. It wasn't a creativity issue. It was a
it was an issue where it got into it. It
just wasn't they just run like real football plays up there.
I run normal passing concepts. The answers that we had
in big down and distances, the answers that we had
when it mattered were the same, and they were reused
and recycled, and everything was outside of the hash, outside
of the numbers. How many like every pass, even even
passes that were completed the other day in the game,
it all looked hard, like hitch routes to the far
side of the field versus versus a corner that's sitting
on a hitch route. Yeah, sure, we completed it sometimes
and it's great when you complete it and the things
get overlooked. But everything is just looked hard. We complete
one pass over the over the middle of field to
Aaron Anderson makes a big play, explosive play, exposed to gain. Great,
we didn't do it anymore. No, Now, a lot of it,
you know, a lot of it certainly has played design
and play calling, and you lack of creativity, and a
lot of your answers are like, we're gonna run hitch
routes and comeback routes to the outside, and our seam routes,
we're not even gonna look at them, our seam routes,
Like I'm watching our guys get vertical down the field
and it's they're not running them correctly. They're not being
being put in position to attack the middle field A
lot of time, we're not running inside breaking routes, just
not putting guys in a good position. And then of course,
like we all like we've I don't know how many
thousands of times we can say it on the show
and do film breakdowns, but like wide receiver screens and
just bad play calls on I mean, these are things
that get you beat. And I know there's been a
lot of rumors coming out recently about like did Brian
Kelly take over some of the play calling. Did he like,
would he chime in and be like, no, run this play,
run that play. I don't know, we're not on the headsets,
but he sure sure could have it disrupts it. And
you know, Joe Slan like, look, he's been a part
of some good offenses here. Last yearnus Meyer played great.
Nuss Meyer has been a shell of himself this year. Yeah. Now,
I could say that the plays have been also worse,
but he his play hasn't been great, so that protection
has been horrible. Protection has been bad. He hasn't been
able to read it out. I think he sees ghosts sometimes.
I think he's playing. But like, but as a coach,
it's your job to develop that, your job to get
him comfortable at your job to run passing plays where
you can get your quarterback rhythm, get him out of
the funk.
Speaker 4: To me, it was a game plan that would have
been very hard for anybody to be successful at a
high level playing the quarterback position. Now, there's some things,
certainly that Garrett would come in here and he would
own up to certainly, But when you go back and
you watch the tape, the things that were designed for
only specific parts of the football field were troublesome.
Speaker 2: Troublesome like.
Speaker 4: Trick them high school Harry type stuff. M seven and
throw behind the line of scrimmage, and like, dude, you've
got you've got pros at receiver pros and you got
a tight end that's an alien. There's not many guys
walking the earth. It looked like Trede s Green that
had the skill set that he has. And you're running,
you're running stuff at the line of scrimmage and and
you don't use the middle of the football field at all.
And I'm not talking about your quarterback doesn't see it.
You didn't run there, you didn't attack there, like even
when when Van Buren comes in his first pass, like
he ripped it over the middle.
Speaker 5: But like even that.
Speaker 4: Was was kind of like borderline, like going down the hash. Yeah,
we're talking about the fastest way to the end zone
through the middle of the football field.
Speaker 2: And look and and there's a lot of times where
you have you know, vertical routes, three vertical routes, whatever,
and guys are supposed to run, you know, they're supposed
to run across the hash, across to the other side
of the hat. And you got two receivers next to
each other just running down vertical That's that's that's that's coaching.
You got to you gotta have these guys understanding how
to run their pass routes, how to run across the
middle versus different coverages, and so you know, it's it's
it's a combination of everything, Like this is this is
building up. We could see this one coming from a
mile away. The offense has been bad, straight up. Defense
has been good for most part. Got they've been exposed recently, Okay,
got it. But the offense, you've been bad all season.
You've been even even in the wins. Like but you know,
to their credit. They actually did a couple of things
this past game that were a little bit better. We
can start showing you a little bit of that stuff
coming up, Like we cut a lot of the RPO
stuff out. We had receivers block, we had receivers to
the run side, dig out safeties that had created explosive games.
Why couldn't you figure that out earlier? Yeah, we ran
the ball, I think halland Berry averaging seven yards of carry.
Then he gets one carry in the third quarter. I
get it, maybe second half, well the fourth quart I mean,
is it's out of hand at that point, but like, like,
what are we doing? It's just it seemed like the
job was a little a little a little bo oh
for sure, Over said a little bit there. Sure, So
this one was obviously and he gets mass. Last year
you have a four thousand yard passer, right yep.
Speaker 4: And so like you're like, okay, well it's not it's
not complimentary your offense, but hell, at least you can
do that at a at a very high level. Its
second leading passer in the country. But when that went
to hell, what do you have?
Speaker 5: What do you have?
Speaker 2: You don't have a.
Speaker 4: Running game, because you wouldn't commit to it. You got
the running backs. I mean, Harlan Barry looks like he
is a star. I mean his patience, his suddenness.
Speaker 2: And you can say like there's Lineman issues, blah bah blah.
Look around the country, there's people doing a lot more
with a lot less.
Speaker 4: Yes, that is very very well said. So Joe Sloan
out as Offen's coordinator. He follows Brian Kelly out the
door there. So we'll update you. We'll take a break,
maybe find out who the play caller is. I know
Tim Ortay's name's being thrown out there Atkins as well.
Speaker 5: We'll have all of.
Speaker 2: It for you.
Speaker 5: It is officially okay, all right, well there you go.
That gun's taking over the calling.
Speaker 4: And that's you know, somebody that I don't believe has
play calling in his past. He's been a coordinator, but
at Floria State, no time like the president, Jacob. All right,
we'll take a break more to be off the bench.
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: All Right, welcome back, gain OTV here laugh from the
rads of King Studio. In the next hour, we'll give
you kind of some examples of what happened, what went wrong,
what went right. Although it wasn't a lot at least
in the run game, you had some right. In the
Texas A and M game, they did run the op
viube again. So LSU has fired off its coordinator, Joe Sloan,
so it is Brian Kelly and Joe Sloan. Titans coach
Alex Atkins will take over as offensive coordinator. And look,
you got a couple of weeks. That's why you do
it during the bye week. You got a couple of
weeks to prepare for Alabama. Last time that this happened,
remember you go to Alabama, you were like a three
touchdown dog and you throw the ball in the end zone,
you catch it, you would have won the game. Remember
Derante Jones came out with a hell of a game
plan defensively, Alabama had no idea what was going to happen,
and LSU got after them on defense. And it was
actually one of the only times I can remember like
even in a loss, like being like, man, that was
that was awesome.
Speaker 2: That was great.
Speaker 4: So like you're gonna have the ability to have something
that Alabama's probably not going to know what to prepare for.
So look, we're not even remotely close to getting ready
to start to talk about that game, but that is
going to be the situation.
Speaker 5: So it is Alex Atkins. It takes over as you'r.
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