Speaker 1: Perhaps ironically or perhaps innately, it took someone like Donald
Trump that speaks some very harsh, unconventional truths to get
this historical share of the Hispanic vote. I mean, I
don't think it's an accident that you looked at and
look at the twenty twenty election for instance, there when
when Donald Trump now loses to Joe Biden. You have
these heavily Hispanic counties, many of which stay with Trump,
and twenty twenty four places like Star County taxes a
PoTA count taxes eight down there in the Rio Grande Valley.
I mean, these are like ninety plus percent is Panic
counties and they're voting for Donald Trump. And guess what
those are not the Cubans here in South Florida where
I live, No, those are Mexicans. But and I mean
even here in central Florida, I said, Orlando, there is
o'cala County, o'calla County, they formerly Blue County that has
broken red recently too. It's a very heavily Puerto Rican county. Actually,
so it's not even just the Venezuelans who are fleeing communism. No,
I mean, there's been a real genuine shift.
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I've been watching him, Josh Haimer, you on YouTube Lefty's
Losing It. It seems like for years it's been on Now.
I love watching that show in the morning. It gives
me an early morning chuckle. Rita Penangi, the host of
the show, is definitely a great sense of humor and
the great political insights. And you're a regular guest there, Josh,
And really, hey, if you can't laugh at yourself and
you can't laugh at the at the left left, what
do we have left to laugh at? You know?
Speaker 1: Carry It's good to join you and thank you so
much for the flattering words. It's funny. I go on
a lot of shows with with some degree of regularity,
but it is Rita Panahi's Sky News Australia show that
I probably get the single most in person feedback on,
Like I have people at Sinnegaga say did I see
you on that He's losing it in Skyty's Australia, and
it's really funny. I haven't I'm gonna read a show
for years that it's actually been a bit of a
personal connection as well. One of Rita's good in person
friends in Melbourne, Australia is actually a very old friend
my wife is kind just a small world kind of
thing there. But I get trend as positive feedback from
that show and I'm most very grateful for scott News
for me, I'm very grateful for you if you have
me honest Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that you'd get your fame notoriety from
an Australian show that totally totally works in the US.
A lot of shows, you know that deal with politics
don't work outside their local environs, like you know when
you watch British political commentary, it doesn't work here in
the US. But somehow she's made it work. That's really
an accomplishment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it absolutely is.
Speaker 1: The woman lives halfway around the world and she has
more incisive commentary and humors to your point, incisive and
humorous commentary on our own politics than I'm probably ninety
five percent or more of America's political commentators left center
right combined.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: So that's a real accomplishment there and is probably why
she has tremendous views and ratings of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was a shocker when I first found it.
Like I said a few years ago, I think I
found it. But you know, so much of what happens
in the world on these big tech platforms gets censored,
It gets shifted to an agenda. You know, we think
we have free speech. I personally on my YouTube channel
had been censored for thirteen years, fourteen years now. You know,
humor is the one way that we the one weapon
available to you, to me that really the left and
most people don't know how to deal with ed.
Speaker 1: Look, there are a lot of things we said about humor.
I guess I will say this. I've long been on
the opinion that is also one of Donald Trump's greatest
political gifts.
Speaker 4: Actually, I believe.
Speaker 1: That Donald Trump's two greatest and least transferable political gifts,
the ones that you can't necessarily just teach to a novice,
to an apprentice to a young padwan, if you will.
Those two gifts are on the one hand, he has
his inexplicable ability to make his political opponents lose their
everlasting minds and to essentially bait them into taking the
wrong end of an eighty twenty or ninety ten issue.
He does this over and over and over again, and
really he makes people just go crazy in a way
that no other politician in lifetime had done so. So
that's the first trait. The other trait is his humor.
He's a very very very funny guy. In fact, i'll
regaly with a very brief story. You know, there's actually
there's really two these two clips from the first Trump
era Trump one point zero, if he will, that my
brother and I have just probably gone I mean morey
laughs from watching YouTube bank of Posma count There's there's
this one instance. I think it's like December twenty fifteen.
It's in the primary, it's out, it's out in Iowa.
I think it was there before the caucuses. Might have
been South Carolina. I think it was in Iowa. And
then candidate Trump. I should I shouldn't be leaving this
as much as I am, but it's just so funny,
he says.
Speaker 4: From the front, he goes, I've heard that there's.
Speaker 1: Some people out there who have brought tomatoes into the
rally and they want to throw tomatoes at me or
people at the front, And I had this to say.
I'm gonna say, if you see someone about the whole
of tomato, knock the.
Speaker 4: Crack out of them. We'll cover the legal bills.
Speaker 1: And my brother that I am just we spent so
many minutes, maybe than hours, laughing at this cup on repeat.
The second one is like he's gonna that annual thanksgiving
a turkey pardon one year in like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
and the two turkeys and their name peas and carrots,
and like it's just so funny. I mean, you only
pee your pantry laughing so hard there. So yeah, humor
is definitely not just not just deeply deeply valuable, as
actually was Aristotle back in the day to you know,
over two millennigo Aristol famous said that the gods too
are fond of a joke. So there's there's that, but
it's also just a deeply political beneficial skill. If you
can if you can use it as effectively as Trump
has of the use.
Speaker 3: Well. I remember Rush Limbaugh saying that if your political
beliefs and your ideas cannot stand being ridiculed, then there's
something seriously wrong with them, because I'm paraphrasing them, because basically,
if it can't stand up to ridicule, then it can't work.
And I can recount a personal event with myself interaction
with President Trump long ago when I was an attorney.
I'm a recovering attorney myself, and this was in two
thousand and you know, he saw my name in a
publication in the Wall Street Journal, invited me and my
partner to his office to discuss some cases. At the time,
I vowed I would never wear another tie and a suit,
and I'm wearing like a blazer and a Kashmir sweater.
My partner's a military nut, he wears he's wearing battle fatigues,
desert storm boots and a ranger cap into Trump's office
and Trump's like back slouched back on the phone, and
he sees us walk in and he like looks us
up and down like four or five times. Then he
gets off the phone. He goes, are you sure you
guys are lawyers, because you don't look like any lawyers
I ever saw, and I've I said to my partner,
I said afterwards, I said, we're never going to get
rich off of Trump. He's a legal connoisseur, but we
are going to have stories for a lifetime, never thinking
that sixteen years later he was going to be going
into the Oval office. You know it was. And that
humor is something that we lose sight of, I think
in the political debate, and Trump has effectively weaponized it
and it drives the left nuts. They don't even think
he's funny, Josh. That's the depth of their vitriol and
hatred of Trump. They can't even take a joke anymore.
Speaker 4: Well, it's partially that.
Speaker 1: It's also partially the first of what I described to
Donald Trump's too great political skill, which is his ability
to inspect inexplicably make his political opposition lose the everlasting minds.
Speaker 4: So it's a little bit of that too.
Speaker 1: Ironically, Actually, it's the first of his two great traits
that is actually in this case inhibiting their recognition of
his second great trait, actually his humor. But this is
one of the many reasons why as you get closer
twenty twenty eight. I mean, yeah, frankly, look, I mean
we're probably going to have candidates announced for twenty twenty
eight within the next year. Of this point there was
it's getting pretty close. And it's one of the reasons
why it's not clear to me that there is an obvious,
clear successor to Donald Trump at this time. A lot
of folks say, JD Evans, Look, I've known JD on
a person level for many years. I was a big
booster of his run for sentence and a booster as
well of his vice presidential bid there.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot to say for that.
Speaker 1: This also for Mark Rubio, who has been utterly exceptional,
like really historically exceptional, frankly in his current role, his
dual role, really maybe his multi power role, but at
least his dual role as Secretary of States and as
National Security Advisor.
Speaker 4: But you know, whether it's JD.
Speaker 1: Evans, Mark Rubio, or really anyone else who might throw
their hat into the ring in twenty twenty eight, again,
no one has that Trumpian teamor no one. Look, I
live in Florida. I moved to Florida in twenty twenty
one for many reasons. One of which was rom the
Santas his guidance of this state during the COVID nineteen pandemic,
and generally just his policies and making Florida just really
kind of long Texas one of the nation's most iconic
liberty loving red states in general. But you know, DeSantis,
I think he probably the first committed Honestly, one of
the reasons that his own presdential bid failed is that
he just doesn't have that innates as a humor, that
inate ability just kind of immediately get the common guy
at the diner in Iowa, for instance, to kind of
like smile ear to ear. It's a very very, very
very rare thing and something that made Bill Clinton certainly
one of the youngest presidents ever elected. He had it
very much as well, not saying that he was funny,
but he was charming, He was winsome. These are very
very difficult things to teach. You kind of have it
or you don't. You can go to the old Lee
Strasbourg School of Acting in Manhattan, you can go to
the Jimmy Carvell School of how to get a political
candet in the campaign trail there, but very very few
people have these things there, and you know that you're
experiencing a very political talents when you have it, and
Donald Trump is frankly when those such towns, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's innate. I've done a little stand up myself.
How good for you. You have to be willing to bomb,
you know. And the thing about DeSantis, you know, I
like the guy, yet like every state's corrupt, so I've
already come to that conclusion so that I'm not letting
that stand in my way. But competence level is like,
I know, when there's a disaster in the state of Florida,
and there's always a disaster hurricane time, that guy is
going to be there and he's going to be getting
people to fix stuff right, make the trains run on
time again. And that is a rare talent that is
so underappreciated in DeSantis, and it's just never going to
take him across the finish line.
Speaker 4: You know, it's done wonders here in Florida.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been an extraordinarily impressive governor and virtually
every way that you can judge a goomatorial tenure, he's
also essentially single handlely transformed Florida from being the nation's
quintessential iconic purple state the nation that famously decide him
the two thousand presential election by barely over five hundred votes.
That the hanging chads this that there and now Florida
is a true, veritable red state bash. So he's done
incredible work, He's left incredible legacy, but clearly his run
at the national level flopped. And will he give it
another shot? The Apple I don't know. He's a very
young guy still. I mean, you know, he's basically in
his mid forties now. His children, I think are still
the under the age of ten, three of them. So
he's he's a young guy. He definitely has time there.
But some of these things you kind of just have
or you dumped and Ron for all of his tremendous gifts,
and look, there are there are. I've met Ron the
Sands person many many times I've seen I've seen him
off camera. He absolutely can be you know a little
more kind of you know, casual conversation, you know, drink
a beer, smoke a cigar, that that kind of thing there.
Maybe not quite like Trump then, but but he does
have it there. But being able to kind of take
that and to really kind of do the old kind
of Tokvillian American democracy process, going from gas station to
gas station, Iowa, shaking hands, making people feel like they're
a million bucks, right, making the everyday person feel like
he or she is a million bucks. Because politics, many
ways ultimately is a sales a sales package endeavor as well.
You're selling yourself essentially as a cand not in a
prostitution way, although Frank is some politicians do that too,
but you're selling yourself as a as an elected as
a prospective elected official, and you have to really kind
of leave a very positive, lasting impression there. So yes,
I look, we'll see if Ron gives another shot. I
suspend in twenty twenty eight. He probably won't with very
simple reason that I spect Mark Rubio probably will, and
I'm not sure that there's room for both them there. But
I've been wrong before, so I guess let's say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marco Rubio to me is the shocker of the
whole Trump administration. Like I thought he was a bright guy,
thought he had a sense of humor, although he got
out Trump by Trump on the stage numerous times. And
yet the guy like he's basically the president of Venezuela
and now will soon be the President of Cuba as
well as being Secretary of State. I mean, that guy,
he's way way outperformed anything that I expected.
Speaker 4: He's been extraordinary.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at what the administrations has accomplished on
the world stage them at this point. I mean, you
had the setting back by years at least potentially a
decade or more of the Ironim nuclear program. You had
peace deals between Indian Pakistan. People forgot that there was
a real worry that these two that these two nuclear
countries can actually engage in direct fisticuffs. He got a
peace deal between Indian Pakistan. He got a peace deal
between Cambodia and Thailand, two rivals there in Southeast Asia.
He got this incredible peace steal that's being deeply unheralded
normally top meta between Armenia and Azerbaijan, two countries that
eted each other. I know because I was there. I
was in Armenia Gosho two and a half years ago.
Now went to the border. I saw firsthand, deep deep
vitril between these two countries. They are multiple wars over
the past trival three and a half four decades. And
not only did they get a peace deal, there's this
incredible press conference then no one covered at the White
House back in like early in the mid August, and
the two leaders are like clanking a champagne class. It's
incredible stuff. I mean, the level of Look, they haven't
gone the rush of Ukraine deal. It's not for lack
of trun They've been trying really really hard. Sometimes it's
just it's just really hard. I mean, lamp Punin's a
tough cookie, so sometimes it's just really really really hard
to get a deal. But they've accomplished so much there.
The Madure Operation a staggering success, a mind blowing success,
reminder of American resilience and American exceptionalism, especially in our
own hemisphere. And yeah, Rubio is behind not all of this,
but a lot of it. He really has been kind
of like the guy behind a lot of administrations staggering
diplomatic and foreign policies.
Speaker 4: Success is there. So right now he's kind of he's buying.
Speaker 1: He's being very coy when when he's asked about twenty
twenty eight he basically says, you know nothing about that,
or you know, if the Vice President runs out, I'll
support him there. If you asked me, my own opinion
what I think Mark Rubio is doing. I think he's
basically playing something with Stalky horse game right now. He
thinks probably it's a little bit too early to peak
at this time there. He wants to kind of let
the administration play out there, keep on panning his resume
there and at this point again I'm the ramafore, but
I would pre surprised if this momentum keeps up. The
Rubio I mean, presprise V does not mount a bit
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been remarkable. I mean the foreign policy success
is Rwanda and got right. You know, there's been so
many of them, and you know, I was in Thailand
when they resumed their hostilities again, but you know he
stopped that and the whole thing with Russia Ukraine War.
I mean, the military industrial complex doesn't want it to end,
and until they've gotten their profits, I don't think it's
going to you know, it's a whole new generation of
hardware they're going to be able to sell, or that
they're selling now. So there's just too much against them
to stop it. But I think we're getting closer. A
recent prisoner exchange, maybe that's an indication that they're going
to come to their senses because it's just like chewing
up men and capital with no benefit to either side. Now, look,
I hope you're right. I pray that you're right. It's
been absolute carnage.
Speaker 1: So much attension goes to our Middle East conflicts for
various reasons that people just forget about the level of
depravitying carnage that had happened there in Ukraine and also
inside Russia as well, both places over the past four years.
You're talking here about a death toll in the hundreds
and hundreds of thousands. I mean, whatever the death toll
was in Gaza over the war, and it's certainly not
what Aamas says it was, but we can debate exactly
what was there. It pales in comparison, pales a fraction
of the death toll in Russia Ukraine. Even if the
war were to actually end tomorrow, it would take Ukraine decades,
a half century at least probably to rebuild. They thinking
about the loss of young men and women, people who
are scarred PTSD, people who have fled the country, the
level of intellectual capital, financial capital, social capital, all of
it which is which has left the country to try
to seek asylent refuge elsewhere. It's been an astounding, shockingly
high cost and unfortunately both parties I primarily blame Putin
and but Zelenski definitely has has the times been too
stubborn as well, and it's just been a very very
very very difficult deal internally. To your point, the military
industrial complex, that's that's a very astute points when that's
not really made very frequently. But they definitely don't have
a particularly firm interest in ending this one, shall we say?
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess you're probably right and spot on
about them.
Speaker 3: And they don't care who wins or loses. They don't
care if the stuff gets blown up the moment it
gets off the ship, because they're getting paid. At least
Trump has shifted the financial burden to Europe rather than
the US taxpayer, So be grateful for that. You know
one thing I want to cover with you. I don't
think it's covered enough. Fraud, all right, you're not surprised
by the fraud that's being uncovered. I'm certainly not. I've
been dealing with the government my whole adult life. There's
more than enough fraud to go around. But the whole
basis of the Great Society by Johnson. It's fraudulent on
its face, right, I mean, it really was built to
encourage fraud and to encourage the worst aspects of humanity.
Speaker 1: Well, it was only built to enable in a bet
fraud at minimum, But I think above all, really it
was built towards the goal of subservience, of trying to
make more men dependent on the teat of the government
and to make them subservient to Uncle Sam. Ultimately, you know,
I've heard various skeptics critics of the welfare state. I
mean Thomas Soule comes to mind. To Thomas soul has
frequently sure said that the welfare state was one of
the worst things that ever happened to the black family.
For instance, I mean thinking about when Daniel Patrick moynihan
famously decried the rate of out of wedlock parenting at
the time of a child's birth in black families that
happened in the late sixties early seventies. Well, that number
has gone way way higher ever since then. There certainly,
I think our welfare state bears at least.
Speaker 4: Part of the blame there.
Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately, look, I'm observing jew but I
believe very very firmly in America's Protestant historical tradition, and
I take, I take a thicker kind of cultural conception
of positism in America, and I'm getting heer at notions
like individuality, rebelliousness to an extent, and really kind of
this notion of the Protestant but has really been bread
and butter parts of America since the founding. You know,
whether Prostent or Catholic, Jewish, whatever, if if you come
to America, you have assimilated into that framework. And that
really is what's made us great for a very, very
very long time. The welfare states, you know, as began
with Wijoe Wilson FDR, really exploited in nineteen sixties with LPJ,
and then Obama expands it as well. Of course, the
modern welfare state is a massive review. It has two
middle fingers straight into the face of that historical pros
and work ethic, and that's one of the many, many
reasons why it is insidious and ultimately destructive to our
American experiment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was a friend of mine and I
was out at dinner, and we're definitely at different ends
of the political spectrum. I mean, I'm more libertarian than conservative,
but certainly a lot of my values aligned with the right,
not in the way it's practiced necessarily, but in the theoretical backing.
And you know, they're like complaining about something in Minneapolis whatever.
I don't remember what it was about, and I said,
do you really think we need more Somalis in the country.
I said, eighty percent of them are on welfare receiving
some type of public benefit, and then the other twenty
maybe they're all fraudsters. I don't know the answer, but
I do know, and it's nothing to do with somalis.
It's a system that encourages fraud, embraces it doesn't hold
fraudsters accountable, doesn't put them in jail. And you know,
I'm just looking at it, and there's no surprises here
at all. It's the natural outcome.
Speaker 1: No, there's no surprises at all from the ability. Frankly,
possibly the innate, inbuilt nature of the well first eight
to lend itself to fraud. But there's also something that
is culturally innate in certain communities that lend themselves to
fraud or taking advantage of others as well. I've seen
the same stance that you have about the Smali community
of Minnesota. Congressman Brandon Gill of Texas have him a
guest on My show Personal Friend. In real life, he's
doing an amazing work. They're on this issue, among others.
He went viral on social media for this hearing where
he was grilling people about the rates of things like
welfare and fraud in that community there that doesn't happen accidentally.
There is something fundamentally incompatible with that particular culture at
this time, at least, I mean again and Milt change,
but right now there's something fundamentally incompatible with small the
values let's call them, with the values of I guess
in this case the welfare state. And you know, it
kind of reminds me of of the old Milton Freeman
lawne about open borders and a welfare state. How you
simply can't have both. I mean, you can't have mass
uncontrolled immigration, frankly, even just mass completely unvetted legal immigration, right,
massive immigration without any kind of eye towards dissimilation, I
towards preserving some sense of unity and decency and cultures
that you can't have any of that with a massive
welfare state. And unfortunately that's the way it's been here
in America for decades.
Speaker 3: This one, yeah, really has. The interesting thing is the
shift in the Hispanic population. Conservatives always said once they
buy into the American dream and the American system, that
they're going to get more conservative, and then there's many
different sub cultures of the Hispanic vote. But that is
actually coming to pass. So that was one prophecy that
really did come true.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I will know that didn't come true because
of the problem that was given by Republican k stry
consultants back during the Bush ministrations. Back then, this notion
was ubiquitous that if you just give any and you
try to legalize as many illegal lands as possible, this
notion of a pathway citizenship. This was Bush's second term
failed effort to get so called comprehensive immigration reform. This
is part of the problem with Ruby at one point zero,
you know, the infamous kind of Gang of eight tobacle
back in twenty thirteen. Obviously, Marco's has changed to a
little bit since then, but I mean suffice to say that.
Speaker 4: Those efforts were not rewarded with larger.
Speaker 1: Shares of Hispanic vote, perhaps ironically or perhaps innately. It
took someone like Donald Trump that speaks some very harsh,
unconventional truths to get this historical share of the Hispanic vote.
I mean, I don't think it's an accident that you
looked at and look at the twenty twenty election for instance.
There when when Donald Trump now loses to Joe Biden,
you have these heavily Hispanic counties, many of which stay
with Trump, and twenty twenty four places like Star County,
Texas is a PoTA County, Texas. Ay down there in
the Rio Grande Valley. I mean, these are like ninety
plus percent is Panic counties and they're voting for Donald Trump.
And guess what those are not the Cubans here in
South Florida where I live, No, those are Mexicans. But
and I mean even here in central Florida, I said, Orlando,
there is o'cala County, o'calla county, they formerly Blue County
that has broken red recently too. It's a very heavily
Puerto Rican county. Actually, so it's not even just the
Venezuelans who are fleeing communism. No, I mean, there's been
a real genuine shift there. Now I've heard some recent
shatter from some Republican consultant types that they say that
because of the ice raids, are this that that Republicans
are risk throwing away all of their wins when it
comes to Hispanic voters. They better compromise, they better do
xyz thing. I'm open to having a conversation personally, but
I am very skeptical of these sorts of claims because
they were just demonstrably wrong for a very, very very
long time. There is very little, if any empirical evidence
that Hispanic voters reward squishiness on illegal immigration with votes.
Speaker 4: If anything, they seed to prefer the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 1: So I'm very skeptical, but I douinitely have heard that
conversation start to pop up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, But that's the shifts that take place over
time in the country. You know, at one time California
was read, New York was read in the late fifties,
early sixties, and basically they lost their way. And you know,
the trends occur. So as far as where we're heading
in the country, you know, the insurrection that's taking place,
At what point does that just have to be stopped
by whatever means necessary.
Speaker 4: Look lawlessness has to be put down.
Speaker 1: Respect for the rule of law is ultimately separate civilization
from barbarism. I mean it pretty much ultimately is really
that symbol. You know, you're a former lawyer. I'm also a.
Speaker 4: Former slash current lawyer.
Speaker 1: I am still senior council at the arg three projects
still bart actually in Texas, all the other live in Florida.
Speaker 4: The rule of law really.
Speaker 1: Is one of the ultimate differentiating factors and one of
things that that has always made America a first world country.
But what we've seen in place like Minnesota over the
past month ish, I mean ever since DHS went in
there following the explosion of the smalllly fraud story, the
nix S early videos there, all that was what precipitated this,
this Twin Cities Immigration Forcement operation. What we've seen has
been you know, it says in the Book of Ecclesiastes in
the Cohela that there's that there's nothing new under the sun, right,
And we've seen some of these very old discredited talking
points to arguments be made new again. So I almost
leapt out of my seat in agony when I was
watching the Attorney General there, Heith Ellis him when he
read off his state's complaint against DHS. They filed a
formal complaint at the time. It's about a little under
a month ago against christin Noam, against all the folks
there in DHS board patrol, Greg Ravino, and he's there
and he's saying the Tenth Amendment in States Rights means
that the federal government cannot belong here. And I'm sitting
there thinking, if you were to say this and like
a fixed Southern accent, the Tenth Amendment in stits ross
the fedow government does not belong here in Minnesota. I mean,
that's John C. Calhoun in the eighteen forties. That's the
whole nullification crisis that did not end well. That's literally
Orville Faubus standing outside the high school, Little Rock Central
High School in Arkansas forcing Dwight Eisenhower to send me
one hundred first Airborne to desegreate Little Run. I mean,
this argument has been discredited time and time again throughout
American history.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: So, look, it seems to me at this point that
things are going Minnesota. It's certainly less in the news.
There's seems like there's less in the way of catastrophic standoffs.
Tom Holman, who I trust implicitly, seems to be quite
satisfied at the level of Minnesota statewide and municipal compliance
with the Feds. I'm a little skeptical, but if Tom
Holman is satisfied, then I'm satisfy because I really have
no reason, frankly, to doubt or question his discernment and
judgment here.
Speaker 4: But if it were to escalate and pick.
Speaker 1: Up again there, then I will reiterate what I've been
saying for a while and now, which is that we
have a statute on the books literally exactly for this.
It's called the Instruction at It was passed during the
Thomas Jarfson presidency eighteen oh seven, who was last invoked
in the Rodney King riots out of Los Angeles during
the George HW.
Speaker 4: Bush administration.
Speaker 1: It's also, by the way, with what Abraham Lincoln invoked
after the shots were fired and Fort Sumpter in April eight.
Speaker 4: And sixty one.
Speaker 1: When you have insurrectionary behavior, when you have this that
the federal law is not going to be respected or enforced,
this is the proper remedy there. And again, apparently we've
had a bit of a bit of an easy attention.
So something of a Dayton I guess you would say
between Minnesota and the Feds bought off that situation were
to change.
Speaker 4: Then there's a statute mister President's two in book.
Speaker 3: And you know, the federal takeover of d C, which
clearly you know the federal government has the right to
is the district. I was in d C like three
four months ago, and a change there was profound. For
one thing, Trump the master builder, is fixing every government
building in d C that was a rundown or looked bad.
I mean, the massive amount of construction going on there,
restoring these buildings, the Supreme Court, so many other buildings,
a lot of it he planned his first term. It
kind of started during Biden and now it's it's really
taken off. But the safety factor was definitely palpable. And
you know, ye people say, well, you can't send in
the troops, you know, if they don't want them. And
yet like people are being saved here, you know, crime
is down, murders are down. I don't see how the
left can oppose a policy that is good for lower
income people, good for everybody, the sense of safety, like
what's happened in New Orleans, same thing, and even though
they won't admit it, it's the same thing that's happened
in Minneapolis. You get rid of the hardcore recidivists, especially
the ones that are illegal aliens, You deport them, and
miracle of well, miracle, crime goes down. And yet the
left cannot accept this, Josh, I mean, this is where
I just scratch my head and say, we're in different
belief systems here. There's no way that they can be reached.
Speaker 1: Well, look, the president does have some unique powers. By
washingtonc As you say, it's the federal district and the
Felt government has more direct control. But there are ways
to get involved in other jurisdictions as well. So this
this notion of cooperation, it goes through the state. It
goes to the governor's office, not to the city. That's why,
for instance, to use my example of Eisenhower and orvill Fabus,
that's why was the governor and not the mayor of
Little Rock who is standing athwart the high school there?
Because this this notion of cooperation between the National Guard
and the states, it's only up.
Speaker 3: To the states.
Speaker 1: Why do I say that, Well, because if you have
a blue city in a red state, you mentioned New
Orleans is a very good example. New Orleans, Saint Louis, Missouri.
You know, have a Memphis, Tennessee. I mean places like this. Frankly,
even Austin, Texas. A lot, a lot of these blue
cities and red states are totally ripe or absolutely ripe
for for having President Trump send in the National Guard
with the cooperation of the governor there and just to
reap the results of this. Look, why should you see
I think I saw this. They just had I could
be right. I think they had one reported homicide, one
for the entire month of January. I could be misremembering there,
but I'm pretty sure I heard that again. Made there
are more, but there's only one form reported one, which
is the lowest number in decades, absolutely in decades. I
mean that is staggering stuff. By the way, the total
number of homicides in America in the year twenty twenty
five dropped the lowest number since the McKinley administration since
the year nineteen hundred, just to around the time McKinley
was assassinating Teddy roosewelt Stepp, then as the youngest president
at the time. I mean, this is historical stuff. Look,
when it comes to crime, when it comes to border security,
physical security, these are really the things that ultimately do
win over voter. It's very similar to those Hispanic voters
there in the Rio Grand Value of Texas. I think
that the Hispanic voters want a Cinelola cartel or the
other cartels to run rough shot over that border.
Speaker 4: You kidding me?
Speaker 1: I mean they don't want that anything more than the
blue collar, middle class worker in Northeast DC wants in
gang violence and shots ringing out there on a random
Tuesday or Wednesday night. I mean, no one wants this there.
The solution is law and or the solution is reducing
crime and forcing our laws and forcing border security, getting
people's physical security and their knees and wants and desires
up to a better place there. And ultimately that's how
you pick up voters in this country, I think.
Speaker 3: And you know, the left will deny the efficacy of
Trump's measures. That's guaranteed because I know, like I was
in New York when Giuliani became mayor, and the turnabout
was so dramatic, the reduction in crime, the perception of
safety in public spaces, and a general decline in anti
social behavior among certain groups. And yet now when you
go back, they won't admit Juliani's accomplishments. They say it
was demographically driven, all sorts of ridiculous things. So unfortunately
we can't expect Trump to get the to get the
respect and the credit that he deserves. But hopefully history
will write it. Josh, we want to find out more
about you. Read your latest articles. Where is the best
place to find you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really appreciate. It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: So I read a weekly syndicated column that goes up
in a lot of places such as Newsweek, The La Times,
Real Clear, Politics, Daily Signal, and elsewhere. I'm also a
Shilmin Fellow of the David Horst Fream Center, so follow
my stuff also at their website. From Page Magazine, I'm
senior counsel for the Article three Project article threeproject dot org.
Follow me on Exit, Josh on his score Hammer and
then my book also last year, Israel and Civilization, The
Fate of the Jewish Nation, Destiny of the West, and
also a final plug guest my daily show, The Josh
Hammer Show, available everywhere podcasts are available. It's also available
on digital streaming via the Salem News Channel where it
appears every night at ten pm.
Speaker 3: Excellent. We'll put a link in the show notes to
this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com so people
who know where to find you appreciate you coming on.
It's really done a pleasure and hopefully we'll have you
on again soon.
Speaker 4: Forward to it.
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