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Sounds Off. I love your mama monster dude, I want

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your soulier mind a woman.

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Speaker 2: You got grown ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Come over here, hearty. Is that Pet Patterson you have legs? Weekend?

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I was ninety nine percent positive it was just chested up.

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every every platform I can, and I want to know

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the reason why you won't park.

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Speaker 1: This is episode nine seventy four of the Solemn Monster

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Sounds Off at is Sunday, August second, twenty twenty six.

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I am the Solo Monster. We are currently in between

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both nights of Summer Slim. Night one is in the

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books and the full video full recap is up on

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YouTube right now. I do have a lot to say though, insummation,

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as far as fallout from Night one and something I

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didn't get a chance to address last night, and the

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review which was Triple H's post show comments. So I'm

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going to talk about that dark side of the ring

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review on the Big boss Man episode from this past week,

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and a bunch of other things. I want to thank

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you guys for ninety three thousand subscribers on YouTube, even

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though Meltzer is saying it's actually seventy eight thousand, but

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thank you for getting me there. Onward and upward man,

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now it's ninety four. That's the next goal. You could,

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of course find me on their Live tonight for the

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night Io post show. Before we get into all the news, though,

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thank you to Rachel from the Badger State. Thank you

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for your generosity as always. And she mentioned something that

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I pointed out on X the other day, which was

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that this week the seven year anniversary this past Thursday,

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since I was able to get my mother's children's book published.

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Adventure of Hardy the Horse was released. I can't even

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believe it's been that long. But if you have a

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friend's family, maybe they have a young child. They seem

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to really enjoy the illustrations. It really makes the story,

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pot really brings it to life. It is still available.

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pick up your own copy. But I want to thank

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everybody who has done so. Sent in a photo to me,

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as people have done over the years. That always puts

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a smile on my face. Recon Russell Bullwear with the

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double Drop. Thank you, Brother Big b Bryant Bessera, the

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c The Destroyer. Better than Raw Robert Michael Scheck. Yeah,

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better than Raw these days. Nightstalker and I f Alsaphar

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I'll see you there. Also shout out to the Texas

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a new range of silhouette wrestling paintings and the first

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several of which are up on his website right now. Man,

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you got the Rock, you got Stone Cold Hull, Cogan,

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The Undertaker, Macho Man, Brett Hart. They're up for sale.

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on items that are not already discounted. So again that's

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Dean Moobray dot co dot UK slash Wrestling. You know,

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as wrestling fans, it's fun to fantasy book because we

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marathon sessions, and the best part is that it's free

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Wrestling and go gm the promotion that you've always dreamed of.

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doesn't it. I get to be the booker on the

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streams every week. Now you get to do it on

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your phone or your tablet, So get to it. This Friday,

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House of Glory presents High Intensity twenty twenty six from

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the NYC Arena. We are five rows deep and damn

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near sold out, but tickets are still available hog Wrestling

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The first time ever that we are streaming the event

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Glory YouTube channel. So if you've never had a chance

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to sample the show before, there is no better time

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than this Friday night. I believe the official handle on

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there is Hog Wrestling. You'll be able to tell. I mean,

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we're closing in on ninety thousand subscribers there seven pm

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Eastern start time. I will be on the call with

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JD and among the matches that you will see, Charles

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Mason defends his HG World Championship against the Mad King

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Eddie Kingston Zillifa two will be in the house. He's

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going to be defending his Crown Jewel Championship against the

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Amazing Red and I know that's a match that Zilla

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has wanted for a very long time, so he gets it.

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This Friday, the Hardys will be in the house defending

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their Hrog Tag team titles. Shatzi Blackheart puts her Hog

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Women's championship on the line against the Queen of Spades SHANEA. Basler.

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We got Darren Richardson defending his Cruiserweight title against the

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Blackhart Leo Rush, Mitas Black and Jay Line, three times

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Hog Tag Team champions. They've had a falling out and man,

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it breaks my heart to see it. Now they face

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each other one on one. I don't know what's gotten

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into Midas this year. He has not been right since

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they lost those tag belts to the Hardys. Lions had

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enough of his shit. It all comes to a head

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this Friday. We got Bang Bang Ricky Sosa debuting for

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US in Chicago. Right. We had him back in June.

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He was supposed to be at our last New York show,

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but he couldn't make it. This Friday, he makes up

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for it. He'll be in Action Taken on Casey Navarro,

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and we got the annual Matt Travis Memorial Battle Royal

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for a championship contract that is on the menu This Friday.

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As well. That contract is how Charles Mason won that

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title in the first place, and he didn't even win

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the Battle Royal. One of his minions did at the

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time and offered it to him, and that's how Mike

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Santana's reign as champion came to an end. So that

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Battle Royal carries some great significance to it. Could be

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a contract for any championship. Really believe me when I

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tell you though, We have been working very hard to

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put together one of our best cards ever and I

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think that you're gonna like it more than you will SmackDown.

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I know I'm going out on a limb saying that,

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but I'm pretty sure you will. And this is why

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Friday on YouTube. I'll be on a different YouTube channel,

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If you cannot make it, YouTube is the next best

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place I want to see my Sounduff family represented in

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the live chat. We also just announced our next Los

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Angeles date, back at the Globe Theater for Fallout on

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Friday night, September fourth. Already announced for the show, the

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Protos star the reigning aew International Champion. Kyle Fletcher will

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be in action. It's been a while. The last time

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Fletcher was in an hog ring, it was with Mark

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Davis to challenge the Britskoes for the hog Tag team titles.

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I was four years ago. This is a very different

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Kyle Fletcher than the man we saw that night. Will

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he even be the International champion when he gets to

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la If not, that's going to be a long flight

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back from London. But he'll be there and I'll be

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there too. Tickets are on sale right now. Before I

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get into Summer Slam. There's some miscellaneous items I have

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wrestle Mania this year, remember change venues. It was originally

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scheduled to take place in New Orleans. TKO got greedy, surprise, surprise.

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last year, so they decided to bring it back. Well,

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Triple Mania thirty four. It's going to be a two

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Hotel and Casino. They sold out instantly. Not a lot

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of tickets, but they sold out instantly due to the

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high demand. They have now moved the show out of

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can fit over fifteen thousand for wrestling. Money in the

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its first ever pay per view Double or Nothing there

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in twenty nineteen. People who already bought tickets to Night one,

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they will be getting more information in the days to

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come about what this means for their seats, but the

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date and time remained the same for the show for

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a triple Mania. I don't know why they would have

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booked the Luxor in the first place. I think they

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greatly underestimated the domestic interest in a triple A show.

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first week of WWE Radio on SiriusXM is in the

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books after they replaced the Pro Wrestling twenty four to

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seven channel with all WWE All the time, with some

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those of you who may be living under a rock,

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or maybe you don't live in the US, in which

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case you may not know. Lebron James recently signed to

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play for the Philadelphia seventy six ers. TNA happened to

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have a live episode of Impact in Philadelphia on Thursday night,

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coming off the best ratings that they have done yet

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on AMC. The week before, they did three hundred and

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seven thousand viewers on the backs of Matt and Jeff

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Hardy in a Righteous deletion match from the Hardy Compound

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against the Righteous. So they were riding the little wave

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of momentum, so of course they would do something to

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try to fuck it all up. They extended an invitation

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to Lebron James to attend the show on Thursday and

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be the official title holder, the belt holder for the

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Nick Nemeth TNA title defense against Jeff Hardy, so he

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would present the winner with the championship when the match

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was over. It was clearly a pr stunt. Lebron has

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never watched a single minute of TNA his entire life.

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I mean, if you put a gun to his head,

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I doubt he could tell you what it even stands for.

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put out graphics on social media for it, like they

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thought he might actually show up. They put his face

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in there, his jersey was in there, and they knew

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he was not going to show up, but they did

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it anyway because it was a stunt. But it has

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to be the title holder for the world title match,

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right or that's what he was supposed to be, a

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world title match that never aired on the live show.

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was Nick Nemeth against Jeff Hardy for the TNA World

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Heavyweight title. I want to know what they would have

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done if Lebron actually accepted their invitation. Would they have

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still taped it to air later on or would they

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have bumped it up to the live show, Because as

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it was, a lot of fans who saw these posts

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rightly assumed that the match was airing live on Thursday.

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They were very upset when it didn't because they did

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a poor job of communicating that to the people. Matt

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Hardy tried to defend this on social media. There is

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no defense for it. Even the champion himself, Nick Nemeth,

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said they could have done a better job of communicating

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to people that the match was not actually airing live

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on Thursday. Matt may not know this, Matt, Matt Hardy

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may not know this, but people screenshoted it. They absolutely

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advertised the title match on their website as far back

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as July eighth for Thursday, with the words airing live

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on AMC Thursday Night Impact. So they misled their audience.

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The minute you start putting shit like that out on

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social media, it is no longer tongue in cheek, Okay,

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but let's be honest. The real reason they did it

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was to try to draw viewers away from aw Collision,

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because they aired Collision on Thursday this week, to avoid

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colliding with SummerSlam. I mean, that's how you would say, right,

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they would be colliding with SummerSlam. That's why they did it.

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That's why they did it. Not only that they apparently

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tagged a Lebron James fan account on Instagram instead of

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Lebron's actual account. So Loltna is immortal. So I doubt

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you're gonna hear about all that on WWE radio now.

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But what you will hear is Tommy Dreamer heaping praise

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on that concert slop on Raw last Monday, talking about

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how oh it was great because it helped get Joe

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Hendry over. Yes, he really said that. Those were the

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words that actually left the mouth of Tommy Dreamer. I

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can't imagine why wanted him off creative with hot takes

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like that. But they had interviews with a bunch of

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WWE personalities throughout the week, like Seth Rollins and cmpunk.

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I mean, it's exactly the type of stuff that you

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would expect. They even had Triple H on Busted Open,

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and they posted the entire twenty minute video to their

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YouTube channel. Dave Lagreca and Nick Nemmuth were the ones

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who were quote unquote interviewing him. Dave Legreca chimed in

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a couple of times with comments, but he didn't ask

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a single question the entire interview, outside of Nick Nemmoth

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asking about house shows. I don't think there were any questions,

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so I'm not sure I could really call it an interview,

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that's not even really what it was. It was mostly

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a forum for Triple H to just talk about whatever

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he felt like, which included him talking about how he

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wishes the fans who criticize would put all of that

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passion into the talent and not the writing. I don't

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think the criticism isn't getting to him. You gotta watch

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this interview, but listen to this. This is what he

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had to say. That passion is what drives people. It's

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no different than the NFL, where guys that have never

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played a down of football in their life or haven't

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played since peewee or whatever are screaming and ranting. This

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coach sucks. He knows nothing about football, doesn't understand the game.

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Why would he run that play? Why wouldn't he do this?

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Why wouldn't he do that? Why would they draft that guy?

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There's millions of reasons why. But it's that passion. Just

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like the NFL or the NBA or Major League Baseball,

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people sit on the couch and they yell, I'm done,

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I'm never watching the Knicks again. They suck and then

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they win and now they're the greatest thing ever. It's amazing.

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It's passion. At the end of the day, it's why

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we do what we do. I was waiting for it.

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I was waiting for the reference. It's why we do

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what we do. That's his favorite go to quote. It's

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what we do, he says. I wish sometimes we could

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put that passion into the talent now opposed to when

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somebody gets heat in our business, it's like, God, why

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would they write that that way? As opposed to that

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no good piece of crap did this. There's something about

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that innocence of not knowing and it's still real to me,

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damn it. First off, him throwing out all of these

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sports analogies is really lame because at the end of

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the day, it's a television show. It's not a sport.

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It's a TV show with writers and predetermined outcomes. And

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I always praise the roster, like you can have the

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greatest roster ever assembled. But if the writing is terrible

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and the creative is bad, it don't matter. It doesn't matter.

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Stop pretending you're like the NFL or the NBA or

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Major League Baseball. You're not. If you really were like

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those leagues, there would be a union and a collective

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bargaining agreement. But we don't need to get into that.

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But if you are of the belief that kfab needs

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to make comeback, which it's not, okay, it can never

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come back the way that it used to be. The

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toothpaste is out of the tube already, okay, and they

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did a lot to make that happen, quite frankly, But

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if that's how you feel, that's reasonable. Like he's not

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wrong in that regard. But for him, of all people,

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to sit there and say something like that and in

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the very next breath he'll be promoting the next season

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of fucking Unreal on Netflix, it shows how disconnected he

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is to reality. Oh I wish the fans would believe more.

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I wish we could get back to that a little bit.

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But let's throw it in people's face every week, how

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fake the entire show is. Let's get my name on

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screen in the credits at the very end of every

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show so they know who produces it. Let's bring fans

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into the gorilla position with all the wrestlers congratulating each

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other for their performance. Let's take cameras into the writer's

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room and remind people why the shows are so fucking terrible.

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In the first place. You know, they posted the full

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segment from Monday of that god awful Joe Hendry concert

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with Dan Housen. They have since scrubbed it from their

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YouTube channel. The best you could find now is a

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clip from the end where they had some ZUFA boxer

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Ryan Garcia get in the ring and hit Henry in

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the back with the guitar and then he posed with

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the judgment day. I had no idea who he was,

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but everyone was in an uproar on social media over

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comments that he has made in the past and they're bad, Like,

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I can't believe they would put a piece of shit

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like this on their show. Bad. But even before I

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knew about any of that stuff, I was just offended

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that he was involved in this segment at all. Now.

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Wressel Votes Radio on Fight Full Select reported on Thursday

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that Monday's raw at the ind of It Dome in

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Los Angeles carried additional importance as several Netflix executives were

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said to be in attendance. One source reportedly described the

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opening segment featuring Paul Hayman, Oba Femi, and Brock Lesner

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as not a good look, citing the microphone issues that

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Haymon dealt with and the botched Fall from Grace spot.

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So yeah, when Oba was beating up the fake cops,

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there was a little uh. There was a little stumble

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when he tried to pick the guy up for the

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Fall from Grace. I it wasn't that big of a deal,

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but it was noticeable anyway, The report says. It was

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also noted that the Dan Hausen and Joe Hendry segment

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missed the mark, with Ryan Garcia's appearance being considered underwhelming

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and unnecessary given the controversy surrounding the boxer. This makes

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it so much worse the fact that they had Netflix

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executives in attendance and they were trying to put their

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best foot forward and they actually greenlit that segment. I mean,

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if that isn't an indictment of the creative brain trust

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in this company, I don't know what is. People also

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wanted my thoughts on the Grayson Waller work shoot promo

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from NXT on Tuesday Night. Now, we haven't seen Waller

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on TV prior to this, since he was squashed by

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Obafemi back in April. They had him hanging around New

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Day for months and months. Once the New Day split

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that left Waller without any direction. But I mean, let's

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be real here, he hasn't had a direction since Austin

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Theory got hurt and disappeared for all those months, but

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then he reappeared as part of the vision Austin Theory

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did when I actually thought that Grayson Waller would have

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made more sense for the vision. But we never did

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get a match between the two of them, even though

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they tagged for I mean literally they tagged for years

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and it had become a running joke. It was a punchline,

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like the constant teases of a split between the two

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of them, and then they would pull back, and then

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they would tease it and then they would pull back.

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That's when they actually were given television time, which was

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very rare. And then Theory got hurt and Waller was

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talking shit about him on TV or He's soft. But

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that was it. That was the end of it. So

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in a last ditch effort to save this man's career,

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Sean Michaels put a microphone in his hand and had

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him walk out there unannounced to cut a worked shoot promo.

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There were people in the chat. I was doing TNT

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Live with JD on his channel and people in the

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chat were just, Oh, my god, the grace grace of

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Waller pipe bine. You gotta see this promo. You gotta

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see this pro over and over and over again. This

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is the promo, right. He said that it was time

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he started rattling some cages. He made his main roster

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debut at Madison Square Garden, and then he broke his leg,

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but he fought his way back. He went to WrestleMania,

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he won the SmackDown tag team titles. But then something changed,

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and it wasn't his work ethic, it wasn't his talent.

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Maybe he didn't politic or kiss the right ass, but

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the last couple of years of his career have been

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in absolute embarrassment, and he's mad enough to admit it.

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Says he spent a year carrying two hundred and forty

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pounds of idiot on my back, making him relevant again,

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so much so that these people actually chanted his name

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never before, never since. But I don't care how many

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bells and whistles you give him. At the end of

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the day, that Marty Janetti is still allergic to the microphone.

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So let me stop there without naming him. He buried

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Austin Theory by calling him the Marty Janetti of the team.

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This made no sense because Theory is the one on

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television every week and one half of the Tag Team Champions,

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while Waller needed a workshoot promo to try to revive

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his career because the company he works for has no

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idea what to do with him, which seems there's a

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lot of that going around lately. But how does that

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make Theory the Janetti of their team? If anything, that

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makes Waller the Janetti of the team. If he wanted

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to argue that he's the more talented of the two,

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then just say so instead of using this dated reference

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that doesn't even really make sense here in this context,

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like the talent gap between Sean and Marty was not

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nearly as big as some people make it out to be.

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The reason Marty Jeanetti did not find more success as

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a single has more to do with his own fuck

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ups than anything else. You find it funny, though, that

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it was Sean Michaels who thought it was who thought

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a Marty Janetti reference would be good in this promo

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here in the twenty twenty six, But he goes on

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he said that it was ironic that he was dressed

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for a funeral, referring to all those segments with New

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Day after they lost the tag team titles where they

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dressed up like they were in mourning. But the only

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thing dying was my career. But it's a new day,

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he said. He can cash a check and sit and

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catering instead. He got himself in the best shape of

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his career. He's had demons though. One of those demons

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is the NXT Championship. He said that title used to

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mean something. He said, when you win the title, you

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get treated like a god. He said he didn't, so

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he gets treated like a Netflix ad break comedy act.

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And he said that he's going to change that by

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coming after the NXT Championship. He said, Cruz Montana, which

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is Mike Santana's real name or not his real name,

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is new name. Actually, some people might believe that Mike

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Santana is his real names. It is not, but he

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said Cruz Montana will. It'll be a shiny new toy

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that people won't care about in a few weeks. He said,

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it's not two thousand and five. Because being the best

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man in TNA is like being the best talent in

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a local YMCA. You know, I wonder if TNA lets

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him go in raw when they bend over for him,

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or if they at least insist on lubing up first.

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We know who the dominant one is in that relationship.

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Waller said that Tony DiAngelo only won the championship because

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no one was left. Said, the NXT men's roster is soft.

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You're lazy, you're complacent, you're happy to be here. The

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women of NXT are running laps around you. Yet ninety

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percent of you think that you should get called up tomorrow.

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But here's the secret, ladies and gentlemen. I look at

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that roster, maybe ten percent is ready. They're all women,

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and the fans in the PC each yeared because they

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know it's true. He called all the indie guys in

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the Evolved brand Charisma vacuum. He said, HBK is smiling

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back at Gorilla because he's finally telling the truth. And

473
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then finally they cut his mic. What they wanted was

474
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,200
a viral moment with this promo, so they got what

475
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,839
they wanted out of it. Social media was a blaze

476
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,359
about this Grason Waller promo. People have been overrating this

477
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,400
all week. Waller did a good job delivering it. It

478
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,799
was a lot to memorize. There was a lot to

479
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,359
unpack there, and there were parts of it that I liked.

480
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,720
You know, as far as him being in Netflix ad break,

481
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,000
I mean, that's true, that's basically how they were treating him.

482
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,519
But he also, again, this promo wasn't some profound thing

483
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,400
like people were making it out to be. When you know,

484
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,799
the show was over on Tuesday, and he buried everybody

485
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:53,079
there is being shit. He buried TNA as being shit,

486
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,079
and he buried Evolve, all the Evolved guys for not

487
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,440
being able to cut a promo he was being too meta. Yeah, Like,

488
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,359
it's funny we get this promo in the same week

489
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,799
that Triple H is unbusted open wishing the fans could

490
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,359
just believe in KFA Again, why would I give a

491
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,279
shit about someone's ability on the microphone? Like, just as

492
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,519
a fan watching the show, I'm just watching the show

493
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,799
and I'm watching things play out and I'm looking for action,

494
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:18,680
Like I'm not looking I'm not watching the show going. Boy,

495
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,519
you know, I can't wait to see like the best

496
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,480
ones on the microphone. I mean, obviously you have guys

497
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:25,960
that are great on the microphone, and they could be

498
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:28,039
very entertaining. I don't think somebody goes into a pro

499
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:31,319
wrestling show though, like that's that's not the criteria by

500
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:33,559
which they're judging the entire show. Let's see who has

501
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:36,759
the best mic skills here on the show, he focused

502
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,200
a lot on promo ability. This guy can't cut a promo.

503
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,920
That guy can't cut a promo. This guy's a charisma vacuum.

504
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,480
This isn't fucking LFG, dude, Like he's saying this on

505
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,599
a show where people wrestle to settle their beats and

506
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,160
win championships. They do it in the wrestling ring. They

507
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:57,279
do it in wrestling matches, not promo contests. The promo itself,

508
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:01,200
substance wise, really wasn't anything special. The reason this promo

509
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,960
was important for Grayson Waller was because this was his

510
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,680
Hail Mary. Now, there was a movie that came out

511
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200
earlier this year, Project Hail Mary. That's what this was

512
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,680
for Grayson Waller. This was his Project Hail Mary. Because

513
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,440
they have nothing for this guy. He was on the

514
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,599
fast track to ninety days at home until he would

515
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,240
be able to sign somewhere else. Maybe this promo helped

516
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,440
save his career. That'll be up to Sean Michaels. I

517
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,200
guess if they plan to use him down there from

518
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,440
now on. But if he's making main roster money, they're

519
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,799
not going to want him working developmental for very long.

520
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
And if he gets brought back to Raw SmackDown, he's

521
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:37,640
just going to be right back where he was before,

522
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,880
unless he can show something in NXT to really open

523
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,319
their eyes. And that's me being a cautious optimist, okay,

524
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,160
because how many people were getting pushed and doing reasonably

525
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000
well in NXT and then they get called up to

526
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,799
the main roster and it's like they forget the whole

527
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,240
reason they called him up in the first place. So

528
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,440
who's to say that doesn't happen to this guy even

529
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920
if he does win the NXT Championship at some point.

530
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,720
But maybe maybe he can open up their eyes working

531
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:07,480
down there. Maybe this promo is a start to doing

532
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,799
just that. I hope for his sake it is. That's

533
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:12,880
why that promo was such a big deal. It's not

534
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,880
the promo of the year or anything like that, but

535
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,519
it could be the promo that helps save that man's job.

536
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,480
SummerSlam Night one was a good show that could have

537
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,200
been great. I would go six out of ten or

538
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
so maybe six and a half, and Night one was

539
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,400
the stronger of the two on paper. Coming into this

540
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000
weekend tonight, it comes down really to Roman and Seth

541
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,079
and Penta and Chad Gable. I need them to go

542
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,640
out there and over deliver. That women's ladder match tonight

543
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,519
is either going to be great or it's going to

544
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,400
be a disaster. I just feel like there's no in between.

545
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,559
Last night, though, they closed the show not with the

546
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,119
WWE Championship match, which clearly irked CM Punk when he

547
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,839
was asked about it on the post show, but he's

548
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,480
a competitive guy. But they ended with hell to Sell

549
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,759
and apparently this is something that brock Lesner himself pitched for.

550
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,960
It was brock Lesner against Oba Femi and last year

551
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:10,839
John Cena said that he did the job to Brock

552
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,319
to get him heat it up before he ultimately rides

553
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,880
off into the sunset in Minnesota. That's what he said.

554
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,400
He knew something. He was referring to SummerSlam which was

555
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,079
in Minneapolis, and watching that match and Brock putting him

556
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,319
over and then giving him the big endorsement when the

557
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:32,240
match was over, calling himself the past and calling Oba

558
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,680
the future. It felt like in appropriate time for him

559
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,440
to walk away, but WrestleMania felt like an appropriate time

560
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,400
for him to walk away after he lost to Oba

561
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,720
the first time and he came back anyway to do

562
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,200
it two more times. Now, was that really necessary? No,

563
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000
it wasn't, but it was likely Brock's idea to blow

564
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,680
it off inside Helen his cell. Helena Cell is the

565
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,759
perfect match to blow off big feuds if you make

566
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,519
use of the cell. And of course you have to

567
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,480
have the right feud to just put something in hell

568
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:03,720
and a cell when it doesn't really feel like it's

569
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:06,720
worthy of the cell, that sucks, But you also want

570
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:09,480
to make sure you make use of the structure, right.

571
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,240
They call it the devil's playground for a reason. We

572
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,920
saw that with See I'm Punk and Drew McIntyre. And

573
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,680
not every match is going to look like that. It's

574
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,640
not going to be that bloody and violent, violent by

575
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,480
WWE standards, but that's the way that you use the

576
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:28,200
cell to blow off a big feud. Having now seen

577
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640
the match last night, it did not need the cell.

578
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,039
Now I know why they did it. They were lagged. Well,

579
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,440
they did it for a few reasons. First of all,

580
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,240
they were lagging in ticket sales. They had tickets to

581
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:42,440
sell to what Michael Cole last night referred to as

582
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,559
a capacity crowd. It was not a capacity crowd unless

583
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,759
they have changed the definition of a capacity crowd. It

584
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,119
was not a capacity crowd, but they had tickets to sell,

585
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:56,359
and being able to advertise a Hell and a Cell

586
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,039
match is going to potentially sell more tickets. And also

587
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,559
Brock wanted to pay it forward to Oba the way

588
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,519
that Undertaker did for him in his rookie year back

589
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,079
in two thousand and two, and then did it again

590
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,519
in twenty fifteen, which is why Brock did the spot

591
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:11,920
last night where he ripped up the canvas to expose

592
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,200
the wooden boards underneath. He did that exact same spot

593
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,960
in his second Helena Cell match with the Undertaker that

594
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,319
they had back in twenty fifteen, only it was Brock

595
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,920
taking a tombstone onto the exposed boards, except, as I recall,

596
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,440
he didn't actually land on the boards. They said he did,

597
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,759
but you know that's not really how it worked. And

598
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,519
like Oba last night, Brock kicked out. Rock kicked out

599
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,359
in that match, and he went on to win the match.

600
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,599
And he was undefeated two and zero coming into last

601
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,519
night against the Undertaker inside helen is Cell against anybody,

602
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:48,559
because he only had two cell matches in his life

603
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,319
before last night. So in their eyes, it's a feather

604
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,759
in Oba's cap to be able to say that he's

605
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:59,599
the only man to ever beat the unbeaten beast inside

606
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,759
Helena Cell. And that sounds nice at all. But I

607
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,839
don't really give a shit about these accolades so much

608
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,400
as I want to see them go out there and

609
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,039
have a really great match, a really great, memorable Helen

610
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,680
of Cell match. Unfortunately, we did not get that last night.

611
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:18,559
What we got was an eleven minute plunder match for

612
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,440
our main event, which just happened to have a giant

613
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,759
cage around it. The opening match would Live Morgan an

614
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,319
Eosky went longer than the Helena Cell match did to

615
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,559
close the show. It took longer to lower the cage

616
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,839
and get both men down to the ring than it

617
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,960
did for them to actually fight inside the cell. But

618
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:41,960
the worst part was that, because again you can always

619
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440
have a great eleven minute match, the worst part was

620
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,759
that it was just getting good. It felt like it

621
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:50,160
was just about to shift. That of first gear when

622
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,680
all of a sudden it ended. It's like if you

623
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:57,519
ride roller coasters, right, it'd be like slowly ascending to

624
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:01,000
the top of the roller coaster, which like the scariest part,

625
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,720
but like you're slowly climbing right to the top of

626
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:07,480
the coaster and just before the big drop they turn

627
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,840
it off and they tell you can climb down. Now

628
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,639
take the stairs back to the ground. So, unfortunately, this

629
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,440
was not one of the better cell matches. You know, now,

630
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,719
maybe Brock just doesn't have it in him anymore to

631
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,800
go beyond what we saw last night. Because since he

632
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,639
came back last year, out of all the matches that

633
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,480
he's had, and I'm not counting the Rumble, and I'm

634
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880
not counting you know war games where you had like

635
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:33,159
eight other people, ten other people, whatever it was, I'm

636
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,679
talking singles matches since he came back last year, last

637
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,280
night was the longest and it still only went eleven minutes,

638
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,840
and that was the main event of the show, which

639
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,400
none of those other singles matches were. That may be

640
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,239
all he has left to give, in which case I'm

641
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,840
fine never seeing him in the ring again. He did

642
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,559
what he needed to do. He put over the next

643
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:58,360
big thing. Now he can ride off into the sunset,

644
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,159
just like John Cena said, I don't believe he will.

645
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:03,559
I don't believe that that was brock Lesner's last match,

646
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,039
but it should be. I thought the perfect ending was WrestleMania,

647
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,360
but let last night be it. But in the end,

648
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,079
the most important part of all of this, even though

649
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:18,280
the match itself was disappointing, they put the new guy

650
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,760
over in a big way. That's the positive takeaway from this.

651
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,400
It was very clear from day one, because of his

652
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:27,760
size and his look, that they were strapping the rocket

653
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,280
to Obafemi. I wish I could say the same for

654
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,840
some of the other young stars on the roster, and

655
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,880
this became a topic of conversation after the show. When

656
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,960
Triple H sat down for the post show scrum, I

657
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,039
can't even remember the last one that he did. He

658
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:44,119
was asked about a comment made recently by Damian Priest,

659
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:48,039
which was on SmackDown. I believe it was written into

660
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:51,159
the television show, so the whole thing came off. Here

661
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,239
is k Fabe, Although obviously his response, you know what

662
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,719
he said here was more than just Kfabe, but it

663
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,519
kind of it was just weird because I know Priests

664
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,880
made that on Smackedann and we supposed to believe that

665
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,320
he went in there and he kind of worked the

666
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,119
shoot comment in there, or were they just playing off

667
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,719
real emotions. I'm sure they're playing off some very real

668
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,519
emotions that people do have in the back. But it

669
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,480
was when Priests said that he was sick and tired

670
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,360
of seeing the same faces on top, you know, on

671
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,360
the top of the card. So Triple H was asked

672
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,760
about this. I'm going to read you his entire response

673
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,840
here and then I will retort. He said, Look, I

674
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,280
get that if you're the guy that wants to take

675
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,239
the spot, it's frustrating when there's guys above you that

676
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,360
have the spot. We're in a period of time where

677
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,519
there's a lot of top performers in top spots that

678
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,320
over time have earned those spots and are selling tickets

679
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719
and are incredibly popular. So you really have to do something.

680
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,559
The narrative of it's my turn, I've been here for

681
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:52,280
a while. There are no turns. That's not how it works.

682
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,559
You earn the spot. Believe me, if somebody is getting

683
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,119
over more than somebody else, we move that person into

684
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:03,079
the spot and move the other person down. Okay, sure,

685
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:06,079
move the other person down, he says. But it's not

686
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,599
just that. It's not just that they're getting the loud

687
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,599
crowd reaction. Are they going to be good in the spot?

688
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,760
Are they going to hold up there into the bargain?

689
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Are they going to screw up if we give it

690
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,679
to them. Are they going to make a mistake that

691
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920
we regret. There's all those things factored in. And I

692
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,039
love the fact that sometimes talents are like, well it's frustrating.

693
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,320
Great that means work harder, get yourself there, figure it out,

694
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,400
figure out the way, figure out how to get it done.

695
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,960
I've seen a million talents succeed because of what they do,

696
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:39,440
not because of storyline or creative They gave them the spot.

697
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,159
Ninety nine percent of the time in this business, the

698
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,280
person gets over and then gets the push. That's how

699
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,639
it works, That's how it's supposed to work. Do you go,

700
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,519
do you and then we follow it, because otherwise most

701
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,800
of the time they will choke on it. If it's

702
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,679
not what the fans believe in, big believer in. If

703
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,599
you want the spot, go take it. Whenever anybody says,

704
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:03,400
I don't know why I'm not in that spot, well,

705
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,320
I don't know, are you more over than Cody Roman,

706
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,559
Punk Live EO. The people that are in that spot,

707
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,039
get there, make those crowd reactions. Whatever you need to

708
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,760
make it happen. That's what we're here to do. I

709
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,280
love that mentality because I think it makes people work harder,

710
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:23,880
and if they're not willing to work to get the spot,

711
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,199
then you shouldn't have it anyway. Boy, I'm sure that

712
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,280
those comments are going to go over like a fucking

713
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,440
lead balloon in the back there. So yes, of course

714
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,159
you need to find a way to get over and

715
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,679
get the crowd invested in what you're doing. That goes

716
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440
without saying right. It can't just all be on the company.

717
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,559
It's not like, hey, I can only bowl if there's

718
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,800
bumpers on the side. I can't ride a bike unless

719
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,519
I have training wheels. Right, you have to be able

720
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:52,800
to do it on your own. I don't think anybody

721
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,320
is denying that. I don't think there's any person who

722
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,599
works in that locker room who has made it as

723
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,960
far as they have to even be in w There

724
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,400
is not a single person, I am sure, in that

725
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,159
locker room who is so lazy to think, oh, well,

726
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,960
I've made it. I'm here, I'm on TV. I don't

727
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,679
have to do anything. I just want Creative to just

728
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,000
sort of get me to where I need to be,

729
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,079
especially in this day and age. If you're relying on

730
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:21,840
Creative to get you to where you need to be,

731
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,719
you're a fucking idiot. But I don't think there's anybody

732
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,199
in the back who honestly feels that way, And I

733
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,320
think they would be insulted frankly listening to him say

734
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,639
it in that way. Whenever he opens his mouth and

735
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,639
he talks about this stuff, it is just so disingenuous

736
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,760
to think that he doesn't have anything to do with it,

737
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:43,559
Like he's shifting it from Creative to them and saying, hey,

738
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:48,119
it's on you, get over right. It can't be all

739
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,679
on them. It's not the nature of what they do

740
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,159
in this day and age. It's a fucking television show,

741
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,760
and it's structured in that way, and they have an

742
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,000
entire writing team and they have to pick and choose

743
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,079
the people that they want you get over right, They'll

744
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,480
do their part, But to insinuate that it's mostly just

745
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:08,079
on them, you know, and Creative is just sort of

746
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:09,840
in the background to guide them a little bit here

747
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,880
and there, right because you listen to what he is saying,

748
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,199
and that's how it comes off. Again. It is just

749
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,400
so disingenuous because if you don't have the support of

750
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,079
the office, or you don't have the support of the

751
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:24,039
creative team, it doesn't matter how loud the crowds may be,

752
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:28,880
you're dead in the water. Look at La Night over

753
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,360
the past three years. Oba. I'm not saying Oba doesn't

754
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,119
put in the work. I mean that dude is a beast,

755
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,800
But you can't tell me that they did not have

756
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,760
him pegged for the top spot before he even wrestled

757
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,719
Cody on that Saturday Night's main event last year, before

758
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,199
he even debuted officially on the main roster, they had

759
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,559
stars in their eyes. They had found their next big superstar.

760
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,000
It's a lot more than just oh great, go work harder.

761
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:01,880
Then they absolutely have their favorites, and they absolutely have

762
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,159
people who they don't like as much, and no matter

763
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:06,440
what they do, they're just never gonna make it to

764
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,000
a top spot. And then you have people, frankly who

765
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,119
they're just not good enough to be in a top

766
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,960
spot relative to the other talent they have. There is

767
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,480
that too, and that's a hard thing for some fans

768
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:19,400
to accept that there are favorites of there, there are

769
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,960
people they like. There are nice guys and nice girls

770
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,320
on the roster who maybe just aren't main event level

771
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,760
material right there. I'm not naming names here, but I'm

772
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,480
just saying that happens as well. Not everybody can be

773
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:33,639
in a main event spot. There are only so many

774
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:37,519
spots in the main event. That is true. But to

775
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,320
hear him talk about it, it's like, well, if you're

776
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,960
not over, well that's all on you. There are people

777
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,880
on that roster who aren't over right now because they

778
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,480
are given shit creative, or they're getting time cut from

779
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:53,360
their matches, or they're not getting consistent television time at all.

780
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,000
You can't get over if you're not on TV. I

781
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,719
don't give a shit what you say. If you cannot

782
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,519
get on television, if you're barely able to get visibility

783
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:06,199
on the shows, you cannot get over. They don't really

784
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,320
have many house shows anymore. You're not even working live

785
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,920
events and getting over in front of those crowds. So

786
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,199
if you're not getting on the show, you're basically absent.

787
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,119
You're basically it's like you don't exist. It's like you're

788
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:22,320
ghosted on these shows. You know. Jeff Cobb just did

789
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,159
an interview I think it was with Denise Salcido. It

790
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,599
was at wressel con whatever whatever, the big convention is

791
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:31,880
in Minneapolis this weekend, and he's I believe a free

792
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,119
men now is ninety days are up. Obviously, he was

793
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:36,519
part of the MFTs and they didn't do anything with him,

794
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,079
and he was there for like a year and they

795
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:42,079
just didn't do anything with him. So he is doing

796
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:44,800
this interview and he's talking about he seems like a

797
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,440
really chill, very down to earth guy. He's a very

798
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,039
good wrestler. Jeff Cobb is not somebody who was going

799
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:55,079
to come to WWE realistically and be World Heavyweight Champion

800
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,840
or WWE Champion. And that's not me saying he doesn't

801
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,639
have the talent for it, but like, I don't know that.

802
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,039
When he signed with them and debuted, even the most

803
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,800
ardent of Jeff Cobb fans was thinking, oh man, this

804
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,599
guy's the limit. He could be you know in main

805
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:12,400
events with Cody Rhodes and all these different people. That

806
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,679
probably was not going to happen, but they didn't do

807
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,440
anything with him. He never had the opportunity to really

808
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:23,760
show what he can do like bell to bell on

809
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,760
a consistent basis, or even have the chance to develop

810
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,320
any real personality on the shows. Maybe is a babyface

811
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,159
instead of a heel, right, even though he came in

812
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:35,880
as a heel. That was largely the problem with the MFTs,

813
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,880
which became a chore to watch on SmackDown every week

814
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,800
because there was no character development, you know, on a

815
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,119
television show where they often talk about the importance of

816
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,280
character and the importance of story, and the importance of charisma,

817
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,480
and the import all of these elements that go into

818
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:56,000
being successful in their business, in their industry, right in

819
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:00,000
their company. He talked in this interview with Denise and again,

820
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000
and I'm paraphrasing here, where when they weren't doing anything

821
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,679
with him, he was constantly like going to people in

822
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,079
the Whether it was Triple H or just people around him,

823
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,360
I don't know, but he was going to people and saying, hey, like,

824
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,360
let me, let me talk like or let me if

825
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,039
I'm not going to be used in this way, let

826
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:19,559
me at least wrestle put me on main event. Put

827
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:21,960
me on main event, and let me go out there

828
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,639
and just try to have some great matches, and the

829
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:26,679
response that he kept getting was, you know, in so

830
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,719
many words, and that's not really what we have in mind, right,

831
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,239
It was something to that effect. The guy wasn't doing anything.

832
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,960
Everybody knew it, and he was trying. He was going

833
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,320
to people, and he says he was trying to get

834
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,360
something at least even if it was on like the

835
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,559
C Show, and they still wouldn't do anything with him,

836
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
and then they cut him. So in an example like that,

837
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,760
I would love for someone to bring that up to

838
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Triple H and say, you know, what's your response to that.

839
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:56,880
What are talents supposed to do when maybe they're not

840
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,960
being utilized and they're trying to make, you know, f

841
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,599
efforts behind the scenes to contribute in some way where

842
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:07,880
they think they can, and they're being turned down. What

843
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,199
do you have to say about that? You know how

844
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,400
frustrating that must be for someone like him, who's so

845
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,920
low on the totem pole there and because of that

846
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,159
can't get anybody to give two shits because they probably

847
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:18,559
look at him and go, this guy's never going to

848
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:20,840
draw us any money. Well, then why the fuck did

849
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,679
you sign him in the first place. He's not a rookie. Yeah,

850
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:27,000
how long he's been around for He's a veteran of

851
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,280
the wrestling industry. I think people know who he is.

852
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,559
I mean, he's got this big body of work. You

853
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:34,599
obviously signed him, you knew what you were getting. I

854
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,800
don't understand this. I don't understand when they sign people

855
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,079
or they bring people up from developmental whatever it may be.

856
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,920
How do you not know? How do you not have

857
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,360
a plan, you know, for what to do with these

858
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,880
people and say, Okay, this guy or this girl may

859
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,079
not be good at this. You know their inn ring

860
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,800
is a little shaky, or maybe they're great in the ring,

861
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,039
but their promos aren't great, or you know, everything is great,

862
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,559
except we don't really see a whole lot from them

863
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,960
personality wise, So maybe we need to work on that

864
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,199
and get them more, you know, Mike Time, like, are

865
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,719
they not doing this? Are they not evaluating each of

866
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,599
these people on a talent by talent basis and saying, Okay,

867
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,880
we called them up, we signed them, we're paying them. Well,

868
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,639
now what's the best use of them? How do we

869
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,079
give them the opportunity to go out there and get

870
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:28,280
over You have to give them the opportunity to get over,

871
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,400
because God forbid, if they decide to take the bull

872
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,599
by the horns and do something that they're not told

873
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,000
to do, they'll get heat for it. That's what I

874
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,679
love about that. Well, like when I hear wrestlers talk

875
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,719
about this and do shoot interviews and stuff, like they're

876
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,679
not doing anything with me or they're not pushing me,

877
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,440
and so I tried to take the incentive and then

878
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,360
a promo maybe they went off script and they said something,

879
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,840
or in a match they did something, and then they

880
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,440
go back and they got heat for it. You and I

881
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,320
was supposed to do that. You didn't clear it, and

882
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,159
now they had They're in the doghouse. Now. It's like,

883
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:57,519
how the fuck are you supposed to get over in

884
00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:00,639
a situation like that. It's it's got to be such

885
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:04,480
a mind fuck for some of these people, Like I've

886
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:08,239
used Carmelo Hayes as an example recently of all of this.

887
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,280
Carmelo Hayes may never be WWE champion at this rate,

888
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,960
but he was the United States champion, and that's where

889
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960
he really started to get over. It was through the

890
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,000
work that he was doing in the ring, not even

891
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,559
his promos. His matches were getting over he was starting

892
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,199
to actually get reactions from the people, right, the reactions

893
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,840
that Triple H talks about. And then after they took

894
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,280
the title off of him, he vanished. He couldn't buy

895
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,800
television time on most weeks, still can't. He was left

896
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,000
off the WrestleMania card despite all that great work he

897
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:45,159
put in. He was left off the Summer Slam card.

898
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,719
Does that mean he didn't get himself over? Does that

899
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,639
mean he didn't work as hard as Trick Williams or

900
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Baron Corbin who's been back for all of what three weeks?

901
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,480
What does he have to do? Does he have to

902
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:04,280
kiss someone's ass? Does he have to suck someone off

903
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,840
in the office. I mean, maybe that's how it worked

904
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,559
back in the eighties, but that shouldn't be how it

905
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:12,239
works today. Maybe he can sleep with the boss's daughter.

906
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,559
Maybe that's the fastest way to the top. It's the

907
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,119
tired Vince McMahon brass ring cliche. You got to reach

908
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,880
up and grab that brass ring, pal, Well, you know

909
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,400
that's awfully hard to do sometimes when you hit your

910
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,960
head on that glass ceiling. I'm sure those comments went

911
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,719
over great with certain people in that locker room. Cmpunk

912
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,920
retained the WWE Championship over Cody Rhodes. This was a

913
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,119
match I was looking forward to for a really long time.

914
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,639
I thought they did a pretty poor job though, coming

915
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,480
into this show of really heating this up to the

916
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:50,639
point where I was like, genuinely excited. The excitement level

917
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:52,199
wasn't there for it in the way that it should

918
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,920
have been for a match this big, right, first time ever,

919
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:58,440
for all intents and purposes, first time ever. I thought

920
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,199
it was a very boring start, plotting through much of

921
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,760
the first half of this match, and not a lot

922
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,480
of heat for a match this big. Finally it started

923
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,519
to pick up. Obviously, you're gonna hear a lot about

924
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:13,679
the awful moon salt that Punk tried. I mean, bless him.

925
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:17,039
He tried something that he has tried very few times before.

926
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,840
I think maybe once he tried it. I don't know

927
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,559
if this was his homage to Terry Funk, you know,

928
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:25,000
the crooked moon salt. The CM stands for a crooked

929
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,159
moon salt. Haha. I don't know. He should never ever

930
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,119
try that again. It was awful. I mean, he's the

931
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:33,320
worst moon salt I've ever seen in a big title match,

932
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,000
at least like this and he almost killed Cody on

933
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:40,360
the landing, but they really picked things up towards the end.

934
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:42,800
There were a lot of you know, countering out of

935
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,119
each other's finish. There was a ref bump and so

936
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,280
you knew fuckery was coming. And that fuckery turned out

937
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,880
to be Randy orton his first appearance since Wrestlemany the

938
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,519
last time we saw him. He lost to Cody and

939
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,760
then Punk kicked him in the head. After the match,

940
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,679
he ran in unbeknownst the pun Punk dropped Cody with

941
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,159
an RKO and then slipped away, and Punk ends up

942
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,639
getting the win. He retains the championship. I'm sure that

943
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:12,320
will cause more tension between Punk and Cody, you know,

944
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,840
did you know? Oh? I didn't know. I don't believe

945
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,440
you right, that sort of thing. But now it looks

946
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,679
like Cody and Randy are gonna reignite their few. They're

947
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,880
going to go off together and I guess try to

948
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,679
have the feud they wanted to have earlier this year

949
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,559
before Pat McAfee got inserted into it. They killed most

950
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,039
of my interest, honestly and even seeing it. But I

951
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,880
hope they can reignite it and turn this into something

952
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,599
that makes me want to see more of it because

953
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:43,960
right now I'm not really as excited as I should

954
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,320
be for that. But them feuding, non titled, you know,

955
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,119
without the championship involved, is fine. Let them do their

956
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,719
own thing. Punk in the meantime can go and he's

957
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,679
got a plethora of new faces on that show, people

958
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320
that he's name dropped in recent weeks, whether it's Priest,

959
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,519
whether it's Royce Keys, whether it's Trick Williams. Obviously we're

960
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:05,679
going to have a Number one Contenders match tonight between

961
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,519
sammy's Ain and Finn Balor, so coming out of that,

962
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:10,960
there'll be a challenger for him, and let him work

963
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,039
with those people for a while, you know, let him

964
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:17,000
work with some newer people. But also there's one name

965
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,719
who's not so new, but he is apparently, like Randy Orton,

966
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,360
was rumored to be on his way back to TV

967
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,679
very soon. I'm very happy to hear this. He's been

968
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,920
gone now for over a year, well over a year,

969
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,960
probably closer to a year and a half. But it

970
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,719
was I think in July of last year that he

971
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,360
had the next fusion surgery, and so here we are

972
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,159
now in early August, and it sounds like Kevin Owens,

973
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,840
who is in Minneapolis. He was doing signings. I've seen

974
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,599
video of him.

975
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:46,159
Speaker 2: He's there.

976
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's going to be on the show tonight,

977
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,800
but there is a possibility that maybe we'll see him

978
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,079
on night too tonight. What he would be doing, I

979
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,159
don't know, honestly, outside of maybe trying to help Sammy's

980
00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:59,719
Ain beat Finn Balor, I don't know what else he

981
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,320
would be doing. If the plan is to keep them

982
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,599
on SmackDown, which I hope it is, because I am

983
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,400
all in on a CM Punk Kevin Owens feud, and

984
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:11,599
maybe that's something they'd want to go to right away.

985
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,719
Totally understandable. Maybe they want to bring Owens back, let

986
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,079
him work with a couple of other people, you know,

987
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,039
rack up some wins, build them up for a championship feud,

988
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,679
and then do punkin Owens right the promos, the promos

989
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:29,639
alone would would have me drawn to my television screen,

990
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,840
So I definitely hope that's something that we can dive

991
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,840
into in the next few months. It's just going to

992
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,679
be great to have Owens back on the show. I mean,

993
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:39,639
that show has just been so dead and lifeless for

994
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:43,039
so long, and now you got Orton back, Orton and

995
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:45,039
Cody will do their thing. You got Punk on the

996
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,480
show now and he can defend against different people. You

997
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:51,360
get Owens back. When Drew McIntyre comes back, what brand

998
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,320
is he going to be on. There's hopeful signs to

999
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,280
inject some new life into SmackDown and some big names too,

1000
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,360
because they don't you know, have a ton of big

1001
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,400
names on the show right now. But it can't just

1002
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,599
be big names in established names. You got to have

1003
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,039
a mix. You want to have a mix of the

1004
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:11,320
veteran talent and the younger talents, and so I feel

1005
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,320
like the tools are all there. They just have to

1006
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,960
figure out a way to put it together so that

1007
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,159
show is actually watchable on most weeks. But as far

1008
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,960
as the match with punkin Cody, not what I was

1009
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000
hoping it would be. In the end, it turned out

1010
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,159
to be good enough. I thought it was a solid

1011
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,239
enough match, but it went almost thirty minutes and just

1012
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,159
a good chunk of it was just very boring and

1013
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,599
just not terribly interesting. You could tell by the reaction

1014
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:40,599
from the crowd, who was very quiet during the first

1015
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,239
half of that match. We had the debut, the ring

1016
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,199
debut of Nick Aldos in WWE. He finally got his moment,

1017
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,760
and they paid for Oasis. They paid for an Oasis

1018
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,320
track Morning Glory for him to come out to Triple

1019
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,599
Ah said that they got clearance a day or two

1020
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:00,440
I think before the show, and he let all know.

1021
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:02,880
He was so excited to let him know. I mean,

1022
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,079
good on them for actually shelling out the money. I'm

1023
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:06,880
sure that didn't come cheap. And I'm sure that's going

1024
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,199
to be edited off the I haven't checked, but I'm

1025
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,159
sure it's going to be edited off the replay. If

1026
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:15,199
it isn't already, at some point it will be ESPN Netflix.

1027
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,599
I doubt very seriously it'll it'll live on there. But

1028
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:22,239
for one night anyway, it was a very cool entrance.

1029
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,719
All this came out. Man, he looked to be in

1030
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,039
great shape. He has been waiting for this moment for

1031
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,000
a very long time, right, you never know when you're

1032
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,679
going to get the call, and this one came on

1033
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,320
very short notice. And he was in there and he

1034
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,679
never looked out of place. He didn't get overly guest

1035
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,159
or anything like that to where it looked like Gunther

1036
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,159
was carrying him towards the end, even though he has

1037
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,960
a wrestled in three years. It was like no time

1038
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,920
at all had gone by, and they had a very

1039
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,599
basic match. But I enjoyed it. I thought it was

1040
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:53,000
a good wrestling match. I loved how into it the

1041
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,719
crowd was, you know, for a guy in all this

1042
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,079
who yes, he's been on TV for a few years now,

1043
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,119
but a lot of these people have probably never even

1044
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,440
seen him wrestle before. You have to imagine that there's

1045
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,800
a very big chunk of the WWE audience that doesn't

1046
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,559
know Nick All this as the NWA World's Heavyweight Champion.

1047
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,320
They don't know his brutus magnus days, you know in TNA,

1048
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,519
So this is their first exposure to him in the ring,

1049
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:19,000
and they were solidly behind him, you know, and all

1050
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:22,079
of the submission attempts and when he was trapped in

1051
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:24,559
the sleeper and they wanted desperately to see him fight

1052
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,039
out of it. When he applied the you know, the

1053
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:29,440
Texas clover leaf, or I guess it wasn't the Texas

1054
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,320
clover leaf, but what they say it was the King's Uh.

1055
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,599
I forgot what he calls it. I know it's named

1056
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:37,800
after the town I think he was born in in

1057
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,119
the UK. The Kings Kingston maybe Kingston clover Leaf. But

1058
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:44,800
when he locked it on, the people popped huge for it.

1059
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,280
His wife Mickey James was there in the front row

1060
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,920
with their son Donovan like this this was this was

1061
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,639
well done right basic as it was. They didn't you know,

1062
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:57,599
it wasn't overbooked. There was no interference, there was no

1063
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,079
you know, cheating involved, There was no special stipulation, there

1064
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:04,880
was no plunder. There were no slim gym tables, there

1065
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,079
were no kendo sticks. They had a basic professional wrestling

1066
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:12,440
match and it worked and the right guy went over.

1067
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:14,559
Because Nick All, this is not suddenly going to be

1068
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:16,920
a full time performer. I didn't really expect him to be,

1069
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,280
so if this was the only time we ever see

1070
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,119
him in the ring, I'm glad for him that he

1071
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:25,960
was able to get that moment against someone like Gunther

1072
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,400
in a big, you know show like SummerSlam. They had

1073
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,760
thirty seven thousand people there. Whatever. It was good for

1074
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,559
him because I know he's been waiting a very long

1075
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,320
time for that. Now when the show is over, they

1076
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,320
shot a segment in the back where he handed Triple

1077
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,920
h his letter of resignation as the SmackDown General manager.

1078
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,400
And now he had been relieved temporarily of his duties.

1079
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:47,920
But I guess the idea is that, you know, well,

1080
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:52,559
I knew what I was getting into, and I was

1081
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:54,880
the GM, and I had to surrender those duties to

1082
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,840
fight Gunther because he just got under my skin, you know,

1083
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,920
he just got to me. And I guess the idea is,

1084
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,440
maybe he thinks that Triple H doesn't think he can

1085
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,039
do the job fairly anymore. So it's been my great

1086
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:11,360
honor and privilege to serve as the GM. And Triple

1087
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:15,159
H took the letter and he put him over. He

1088
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:18,760
thanked him and said, you've done a tremendous job over

1089
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,800
these last three years, and as far as this letter

1090
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,079
is concerned, and he ripped it up and he said,

1091
00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:29,360
you're officially reinstated as the GM of SmackDown. So all

1092
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,599
this is back to being the GM. And if we

1093
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:33,519
do see him in the ring again at some point,

1094
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,119
my guess is it's maybe a cameo in the rumble

1095
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:38,960
or something like that. But for all intents and purposes,

1096
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,519
I think his in ring career is over. So long

1097
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:45,000
as he remains in WWE, I still think the GM

1098
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:48,000
role is the best role for him, gets him on

1099
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:50,519
the show every single week. He's in the middle of everything.

1100
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:53,119
Look at look at how much Adam Pierce is all

1101
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:56,519
over the television show every week. What a great gig,

1102
00:57:57,519 --> 00:57:59,920
gets more television time than most of the talent does,

1103
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:05,039
doesn't have to take any bumps. It's great. Then we

1104
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:07,719
had the tail of two trios matches. We had the

1105
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,320
men's trios match six man tag. It was La Night

1106
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Solo Sokoa and Royce Keys against Jacob Fatu and the

1107
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,039
usos Solo Sakoa man I said this last night. I

1108
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,039
feel vindicated. I've been saying this for how long now,

1109
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,400
probably close to a year, that this man has a

1110
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,559
great babyface run buried within him. If they stopped this

1111
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,840
friggin stoic mob boss gimmick that he's doing leading the MFTs,

1112
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,800
it's not the right role for him. He was completely miscast.

1113
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,960
You are completely ignoring all of the elements that will

1114
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,000
really help get him over where he can be more

1115
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:49,599
like himself, he can be more genuine, he can show

1116
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:53,199
more of his personality. And now he's getting the chance

1117
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,239
to do that. And wouldn't you know he's starting to

1118
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,199
get over that moment in the match where he decided

1119
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:00,920
to run it back and have them played Jay's music

1120
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,480
so he can eat and they panned out and everybody

1121
00:59:03,519 --> 00:59:05,519
was yeating along with him, and Jay had this look

1122
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:07,800
on his face like he had this look on his

1123
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,760
face like somebody just ripped a frigging fart in the

1124
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,159
middle of the match. That was the best part of

1125
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:16,679
the entire match. That and there was this crazy spot

1126
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:22,000
where Royce Keys gave Fatu, who came charging in outside

1127
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:25,440
by the timekeeper's barricade. He caught him and he gave

1128
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:28,800
him a power slam over the barricade onto the concrete

1129
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,559
and he went over with him and they both just

1130
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,239
took this hillacious bump. I actually had a lot of

1131
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:37,760
fun with this match. I didn't know what to expect.

1132
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,400
It's a six man tag, I mean, it felt like

1133
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,519
a television match coming into this, but I thought that

1134
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:45,559
everybody had a chance to shine. There were some fun

1135
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,800
moments in there, and in the end they had freaking

1136
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,000
La Night hit his finish and Pinjeu, So you can't

1137
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,960
ask for anything better than that. Now. Wrestle Votes Radio

1138
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:58,360
on fight Ful Select had a report on Thursday that

1139
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,400
said Solo Socoa was only supposed to be a babyface

1140
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,800
on a short term basis. However, there is said to

1141
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:10,079
be speculation within WWE that those plans could be reconsidered

1142
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:13,119
because of how well he has been received in the role,

1143
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,119
and the report notes that one talent describes Socoa as

1144
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:19,639
one of the funniest superstars behind the scenes. The source

1145
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:22,119
added that they were thrilled that Solo is getting a

1146
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:25,519
chance to show off his personality. Yeah, it only took

1147
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:29,519
a few years, so they were thinking about turning him

1148
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,920
heel again coming out of this match, possibly even rejoining

1149
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,960
the bloodline. That's that's what I read into that. The

1150
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,239
fact that that was even a thought in their head

1151
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,960
is scary. Let's see Triple H put his money where

1152
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,239
his mouth is now, all right, go get yourself over,

1153
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,000
that's what he says, right, go get yourself over. Well,

1154
01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:50,360
guess what Solo Socoa is getting himself over as a babyface.

1155
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,480
Let's see what they do. Do they squander it, do

1156
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:57,760
they ruin it and turn him back, or do they

1157
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,960
let him do his thing and see how far he

1158
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:01,880
can go? Because this is a classic case of it.

1159
01:01:03,639 --> 01:01:08,800
The other Trios match involved the women, and this was

1160
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:12,559
not good. This was the opposite of what this match was,

1161
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,159
and part of it was that Bribella got injured. Although

1162
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:17,639
even if Bribella didn't get injured, I hardly think this

1163
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:19,840
match was going to light the world on fire. But

1164
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,920
her getting hurt just made things worse. And it was

1165
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,800
pretty early in the match too. It looked like it

1166
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,280
happened on a cannon ball up against the ring steps

1167
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,559
that jac Jane gave her and she immediately clutched her

1168
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:34,000
right shoulder. It looked like maybe it was dislocated or separated.

1169
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,000
I thought maybe it was a clavigal potentially, but she

1170
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:40,280
kept holding that shoulder for the rest of the match.

1171
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,039
I can't believe they didn't take her out of the match.

1172
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:44,559
I mean, you got six women out there, She's got

1173
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,119
two partners. Why did she have to remain in this match?

1174
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:48,679
I have no idea. Even if she was telling the

1175
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:51,920
referee I'm okay, I'm okay, she clearly was not okay

1176
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:55,440
and it and it at least partially ruined the rest

1177
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,639
of the match because she couldn't do any real spots.

1178
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,559
She couldn't do anything. She was like a armed woman

1179
01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:06,079
out there. So this match just was a mess, and

1180
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:09,400
Fatal Influence won at least, I mean that was that

1181
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,000
was the right outcome. When the match was over, though

1182
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:16,599
the Bella is mostly Nicki attacked Page because Page took

1183
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:19,199
the losing fall in the match, and because Bree couldn't

1184
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,440
do anything. It was mostly just Nicki beating her up

1185
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,480
and giving her a rack attack, and so the Bellas

1186
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:27,199
have I guess gone, heel, I look, this whole thing

1187
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:30,679
is a fucking mess. Okay, because Nicki Bella was supposed

1188
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:33,679
to be at WrestleMania. Nicki Bella and her sister have

1189
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,159
never been the women's tag team champions before. The reason

1190
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:38,119
they even came back was because they wanted to win

1191
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:40,960
the women's tag team titles at least once. They were

1192
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,360
going to have that opportunity at WrestleMania, not a doubt

1193
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,400
in my mind. They were going to win those belts

1194
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,800
and then on SmackDown a week or two or whatever

1195
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,880
it was before maybe it was maybe it was longer

1196
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,440
than that. But before WrestleMania, Nicki got hurt. She hurt

1197
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,920
her ankle and so she couldn't wrestle, so they brought

1198
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,920
in Page in that spot. It was actually Nicki in

1199
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,159
storyline who made the phone call to bring in page,

1200
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:06,400
which was funny to me last night when Nicki was saying, like,

1201
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,800
you know, don't take my spot. You don't take my spot.

1202
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,239
You gave her your spot. The fuck are you talking about?

1203
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,360
Be mad at yourself? But like they had this plan,

1204
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,320
Nicki got hurt, the sisters were not able to win

1205
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,199
the belts together. Nicki finally just last week made her return.

1206
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,760
She finally got cleared. She came back from the injury.

1207
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,840
And now it looks like Brie is hurt and Brie

1208
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,679
is gonna be out probably for a while. We don't

1209
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:37,880
know the severity of it yet. Triple H even said

1210
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,519
at the scrum last night that it looks bad. Like

1211
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:45,000
he was waiting on results or an MRI or whatever

1212
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:48,079
and to get a definitive diagnosis. But he's hoping it

1213
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:51,280
didn't look as bad as it looked to them. So

1214
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,360
if they're saying it looked bad, it's probably bad. And

1215
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,599
so she's gonna go away for a while. And now regardless,

1216
01:03:56,639 --> 01:03:58,320
and now Nicki just came back and she's got no

1217
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,039
partner because they just turned on Page. So they can't

1218
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:04,159
put like Nikki with Page, what you gonna do, You're

1219
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:06,280
gonna show up on SmackDown and be like, oh my bad,

1220
01:04:07,639 --> 01:04:11,599
my bad. So like one Bella gets hurt, comes back,

1221
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,079
the other Bella gets hurt, and now she's probably out,

1222
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:17,639
Like the whole thing is a fucking mess. And then

1223
01:04:17,679 --> 01:04:21,320
we have liv Morgan retaining her Women's World Championship, her

1224
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,119
first title defense in over one hundred days, defended it

1225
01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:30,400
successfully over the Queen of the Ring, Eo Sky. If

1226
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,280
I'm being totally honest with you looking back at it

1227
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,639
now as I sit here and reflect on night one,

1228
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:38,960
this was the match of the night. This right here

1229
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,119
was the match of Night one. They had a very

1230
01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:45,400
good opener. I thought the closing sequence was very good.

1231
01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:48,360
I was hoping EO would pick up the win. If

1232
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,559
they're actually gonna do something with Live, I have no

1233
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:54,320
issue with her retaining, because I mean, one hundred plus

1234
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,519
days of her being a manager for the judgment day

1235
01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:59,760
and not doing much of anything else gets kind of

1236
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,760
time after a while. But maybe we'll see Stephanie Vicaire

1237
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,400
pop up on Raw Monday night and they can get

1238
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,760
back to that. I don't know. It seems to me

1239
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:12,119
like the idea here because I thought they were setting

1240
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:15,800
up for Ria and Eo at Crown Jewel, and maybe

1241
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,159
the idea was they want Ria and Live, they want

1242
01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:21,480
to go back to that again and that's the Crown

1243
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:23,599
Jewel match, and they wanted to keep the championship on

1244
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:27,920
her for that reason. I don't know, I don't really

1245
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,840
need to see that again, but I thought this was

1246
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,039
the best thing on the entire show. Bell to Belle.

1247
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,800
You know, they got thirteen minutes, so they got five

1248
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,599
or six minutes more than they gave Live for her

1249
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:41,599
WrestleMania match. That scene and unreal by the way, where

1250
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:44,000
she comes back after her match with Stephanie, which was

1251
01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:47,679
like six minutes, and she comes to the back and

1252
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:49,840
Triple H is like gassing her up, Like, oh that

1253
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,800
was great. It was perfect. It was like the best

1254
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,119
thing ever. And all Live is concerned about was like,

1255
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:59,159
did did we make good time? Because they obviously got

1256
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:01,280
their time cut and wanted to make sure like it

1257
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,559
worked out okay, like you were able to like, do

1258
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,880
you know whatever else he needed to do because we

1259
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,039
we went shorter. Like that's basically what she was saying.

1260
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:16,760
And I'm like, man, it's like, okay, I guess the

1261
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:21,599
mentality is it's just different, man, It's just different. If

1262
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,000
they were building me up for a big WrestleMania match,

1263
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:26,519
this was gonna be my moment, right And I'm in

1264
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:28,199
one of the feature matches on the show, like a

1265
01:06:28,239 --> 01:06:30,840
women's world champion. Obviously I wouldn't be in the Women's

1266
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,440
World Championship match. That'd be weird. But like I was

1267
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,239
in the World Championship match on that show and they

1268
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,280
came to me and said, hey, you only have six minutes.

1269
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:40,239
Obviously I would want to go out there and make

1270
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,000
the most of those six minutes. I would try to

1271
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:44,960
make those six minutes the best that I could possibly

1272
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,639
make it. But I wouldn't be very happy about it.

1273
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,880
So I wonder how she really felt about it. Obviously

1274
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,920
she wasn't going to cuss out Triple H and say

1275
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,440
it to his face. But I felt more sad for

1276
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,719
her than anything else watching that her and Stephanie. Tonight

1277
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,079
is night two again. I'll be live on YouTube for

1278
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:07,119
the post show when the show is over, probably around

1279
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:09,039
the same time. I mean, that show last night was

1280
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:13,320
very economical. I think it was three hours in and out. Look,

1281
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,239
I'm not complaining. It would have been nice to get

1282
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:16,760
a little more action on the show than we did.

1283
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,519
Because we have so many. I mean, the breaks in

1284
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:22,199
between the matches are just so fucking long that I

1285
01:07:22,239 --> 01:07:24,280
wish we had a little more action, not like four

1286
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,280
hours worth, but like it would have been nice to

1287
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,000
have another match when we have six. Would have been

1288
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:31,800
nice to squeeze another match in there, but I guess

1289
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,119
that would squeeze into their ad times, so we can't

1290
01:07:34,159 --> 01:07:36,480
have that. But tonight is night too. We have the

1291
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:40,880
Intercontinental Championship on the line, Chad Gable challenging Penta in

1292
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,960
Gable's hometown of Minneapolis. There should be a win for Gable.

1293
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,760
This is going to be his first championship singles title

1294
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:54,599
in WWE. Anything else is unacceptable. Dan Housen, speaking of unacceptable,

1295
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:58,360
is going to be in a human monies on a

1296
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,159
poll match. Whoever came up with the concept for this

1297
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:04,159
match should be beaten over the head with a pole.

1298
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:08,199
That'll be against Dominic Mysterio, which should be a win

1299
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,599
for dom Trick Williams defends the United States Championship against

1300
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:15,360
Baron Corbin. I'm maybe going out on a limb here,

1301
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,319
I don't know, but I'm going with Corbin to win

1302
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:20,680
the title. Sammy's a and Finn Baller number one contenders

1303
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,119
match for the WWE Championship. I'm picking Baller to win. Now.

1304
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:26,359
I suppose if Kevin Owens was to return tonight, he

1305
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,720
might help Sammy win and that would be kind of cool,

1306
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:35,479
I guess, But barring any Owens interference, I'm picking Baller

1307
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:40,079
to win. Then we have the Interim Women's Championship ladder

1308
01:08:40,119 --> 01:08:45,000
match Charlotte Flair, Jade car Gill, Tiffany Stratton, Chelsea Green

1309
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:49,199
and Lash Legend, who had a two minute match with

1310
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:53,520
Julia on SmackDown on Friday night. Lash I figured was

1311
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,359
gonna be the one to qualify. I'm picking Lash to win.

1312
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,359
I just think that they might look at this lineup

1313
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:00,720
here and go, hey, whoever's gon to win the interim

1314
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,359
title is only going to have it on a very

1315
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,119
interim basis because Rhea is probably going to be back

1316
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:08,840
very soon, and so why go ahead and put it

1317
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,319
on Charlotte. You know, for example, if she's only going

1318
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:13,159
to have it for a few weeks and we could

1319
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,680
save that match for later on, let's give some rub

1320
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,880
to Lash, even if it's only for a month or whatever. Like.

1321
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,880
I could see that being the mentality here, and it

1322
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,560
really doesn't make any sense to me to put it

1323
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,319
on Tiffany because she's already got the US title. Chelsea,

1324
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,680
I mean, come on, do you honestly expect that. I'm

1325
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,760
thinking it's Lash or it's Jade, you know, barring barring

1326
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,159
a Lash win. Here the Julia thing. Look, I said

1327
01:09:38,199 --> 01:09:40,720
my piece on Friday that made me so mad just

1328
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,199
just watching that whole thing. It's very clear Julia is

1329
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:49,640
done in this company. It's over. The Julia experiment on

1330
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:55,920
the main roster is over, dead and buried. And I

1331
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,880
said this on Friday, that would it not have made

1332
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:03,239
more sense to put Blake Monroe in that spot against

1333
01:10:03,319 --> 01:10:07,520
Julia in that qualifying match on Friday and have Blake

1334
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,560
qualify instead of Lash unless Lash is gonna win, right,

1335
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,720
that's the whole thing. If I think Lash is gonna win,

1336
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,279
that's probably why she's in the match. But I'm just saying,

1337
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:18,359
like it would have made more sense to me as

1338
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:22,279
someone who has watched the television and saw many weeks

1339
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:26,840
ago Blake Monroe attacked Julia. Actually she's attacked Julia more

1340
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,239
than once on this show. Do that match, have Blake win,

1341
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:32,720
go to the ladder match, and then yeah, she's not

1342
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,479
gonna win necessarily, but like Tiffany, Stratton is in there,

1343
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:38,800
and we've seen some segments with her in Tiffany where

1344
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,520
Blake has been eyeballing the US title, and god knows

1345
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,520
that Tiffany could use some challengers for the United States Championship.

1346
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:47,800
But you could do something in the ladder match that

1347
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,199
allows you to split off from that into a feud

1348
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:55,920
with Tiffany and with Blake for the US title. But

1349
01:10:56,119 --> 01:11:00,640
maybe that's making too much sense. I know, I got

1350
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,520
to stop doing that. I got to stop doing that.

1351
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:05,279
And then the World Heavyweight Championship on the line. In

1352
01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:09,199
the main event, Roman Reigns defends against Seth Rollins. Did

1353
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:11,199
you know that these two were members of the Shield?

1354
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,800
You might not be aware of that, but if you've

1355
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,960
watched the television over the last few weeks, they've made

1356
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,399
that abundantly clear that these two were once part of

1357
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,880
this thing called the Shield. It was a tag team

1358
01:11:23,039 --> 01:11:27,399
back in the day, just the two of them. Roman

1359
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,119
Reigns is gonna win. I don't know if they're gonna

1360
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:32,880
have some sort of convoluted finish here. I don't know

1361
01:11:34,119 --> 01:11:35,960
if it's just going to be a straight up you know,

1362
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:39,680
really good wrestling match, and Roman beats them clean and finally,

1363
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,359
you know, exercises the demons because he's never been able

1364
01:11:43,399 --> 01:11:46,239
to beat Balor in like a major match one on one,

1365
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,039
and so he'll finally be able to do it, and

1366
01:11:49,079 --> 01:11:51,560
then he'll you know, do the usual our farming and

1367
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,319
he'll point to the skies and that's how it goes

1368
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:56,399
off the air. I don't know. I don't know. All

1369
01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:57,960
I can tell you is that I think Roman Rains

1370
01:11:58,039 --> 01:11:59,840
is going to retain and they're not ready to take

1371
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,640
that championship off of him just yet. And that is

1372
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,560
night too of SummerSlam coming up in just a few hours.

1373
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:07,720
And because of that, and because I want to try

1374
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,920
to get this show out as quickly as possible, and

1375
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,560
I still got a dark side of the Ring review

1376
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,720
here to get into. I did have a bunch of

1377
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,560
like notes here and stuff I wanted to get into.

1378
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,479
As far as AW is concerned, I think what I'm

1379
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,800
gonna do. I'm going to hold off on that until Tuesday,

1380
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:24,159
and so as part of everything else that I'll do

1381
01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:27,159
on the Uncrowned Wrestling Show, we'll get into all of

1382
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:30,239
the AW stuff from this past week. The Redemption fallout

1383
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,159
of the way. Things are looking for Grand Slam Mexico

1384
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:36,439
this Wednesday, which is looking pretty stacked, I gotta say,

1385
01:12:37,399 --> 01:12:41,399
but I'll save that for the Tuesday show. Dark Side

1386
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:43,399
of the Ring this week was dedicated to the story

1387
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,640
of Ray Trailer, better known to wrestling fans as the

1388
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,159
Big boss Man, one of those characters from my childhood

1389
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:53,960
that still stands out to this day. The Corrections Officer

1390
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:57,800
from Cobb County, Georgia had one of the catchier theme

1391
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,920
songs too, That was a Gym Heart and JJ maguire production.

1392
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,159
This episode was very similar to the John Tenta episode

1393
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,640
from I know it was the last season or a

1394
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,800
couple of seasons ago, but they did one on Earthquake,

1395
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,039
who was also a very colorful character from that Golden era,

1396
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,720
someone who worked with the Hulk Hogan and was always

1397
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,560
in the mix in some way. But similar to in

1398
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,039
that the boss Man comes off as generally a very

1399
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:25,840
good dude, decent human being who left this earth far

1400
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,880
too soon. Tenta was only forty two when he died.

1401
01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:32,399
Boss Man was forty one. Two guys who looked older

1402
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,640
than they really were. I mean, think about this. Boss

1403
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,119
Man was only twenty six years old when he worked

1404
01:13:37,119 --> 01:13:40,880
with Hogan, But there was nothing dark or sinister about him.

1405
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,199
I mean, he didn't treat people badly. He was never

1406
01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:46,399
accused of anything heinous. He wasn't known to be a

1407
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,359
big party guy on the road. Everybody loved working with him.

1408
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,920
Very funny guy behind the scenes, very affable, and they

1409
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,840
both loved their families, and that came across in both

1410
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,399
of their episodes. You know, we see a lot of

1411
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,680
sad stories on these Dark Side of the Ring episodes,

1412
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,079
but it's been a while since one of them got

1413
01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:04,279
to me like this one. Did you know when they

1414
01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:06,920
got into the discussion of how he died in the

1415
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,600
day he died, I'm not going to lie, you know,

1416
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,359
I cried. That got me, you know, listening to his

1417
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,000
daughter talk about doing chess compressions and giving him mouth

1418
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:19,439
to mouth to try to save him. That just that

1419
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,119
broke me. And it's depressing to think of just how

1420
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:25,359
many wrestlers went out that way, you know, dead of

1421
01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:29,199
a heart attack at such an early age, and we

1422
01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:31,319
know why that is in a lot of cases. Although

1423
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:33,880
they did mention here that heart problems did run in

1424
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,159
boss Man's family, but that doesn't make it any less sad.

1425
01:14:37,239 --> 01:14:41,399
You know, I find myself sometimes as we all get older,

1426
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:44,279
and as I get older, and with each passing year

1427
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:48,279
and I'm not even that old, I realize, like, holy shit,

1428
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,359
I'm now older than so and so and they died.

1429
01:14:52,039 --> 01:14:55,239
The fact that, like Owen Hart, for example, for all

1430
01:14:55,279 --> 01:14:58,079
the years I watched him on TV, the fact that

1431
01:14:58,119 --> 01:15:01,039
Owen was only thirty four years old when he died,

1432
01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:04,279
it just it still blows me away, and I hate it.

1433
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,920
I just hate all the guys and gals, but mostly

1434
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,000
guys that are in the grave right now with kids

1435
01:15:10,039 --> 01:15:12,159
out there that barely remember them because they were so

1436
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:15,439
young when they died. The wrestling business has had a

1437
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,600
very toxic relationship with addiction because the nature of what

1438
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,039
they do and what they put their bodies through. The

1439
01:15:22,119 --> 01:15:25,720
human body was not built to take bumps. Human beings

1440
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,279
are not meant to be slammed over and over again

1441
01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:30,840
for ten years straight or fifteen years, twenty years straight.

1442
01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:35,680
But that was only part of the episode. I enjoyed it. Overall.

1443
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,159
They were able to get boss Man's wife Angela and

1444
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:41,399
his daughter Lacey to sit down for this. Jim Cornett

1445
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,680
has interviewed he managed Boss Men when he was Big

1446
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,279
Bubba Rogers and Bubba was Cornett's bodyguard during their time

1447
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:51,159
in Jim Crockett Promotions. Whenever Cornett gets broken up on

1448
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:53,920
these shows, like he did during the Owen Hard episode,

1449
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:57,159
you know, he really liked the person and he really

1450
01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:59,600
gets broken up, you know. Talking about Bubba, he even

1451
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,359
has to get up at one point a walk away

1452
01:16:01,359 --> 01:16:03,399
for a little bit so that he doesn't turn into

1453
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,399
a blubbering mess on camera. They talked to al Snow,

1454
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,439
who had a very memorable feud with boss Man in

1455
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,439
his second stint with the company in the Attitude era

1456
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:18,520
Gerald Briscoe and Terry Runnolds, which felt kind of random,

1457
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,239
but she actually was very good friends with boss Man.

1458
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,920
She has said in the past that he even gave

1459
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,439
her away at her wedding when she got remarried in

1460
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,159
two thousand and two, so they were pretty close.

1461
01:16:29,399 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: Ye.

1462
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,159
Speaker 1: Boss Man is someone who his main run in the

1463
01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:36,159
business was actually very brief. You know. After coming to

1464
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:39,039
the WWF, he feuded with Hulk Hogan, which was the

1465
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:41,439
peak of his career, and then he settled in as

1466
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,560
like a mid to upper mid card babyface and he

1467
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,359
never achieved that same level of stardom again, not until

1468
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:50,880
he came back in ninety eight. Initially they actually made

1469
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,479
him part of the Steve Austin Vince McMahon storyline, but

1470
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,079
that didn't last very long. But the stuff he did

1471
01:16:57,119 --> 01:17:00,439
do was very memorable. So as brief as his run

1472
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,520
on top was, it was very memorable. He had a

1473
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,680
job as an actual corrections officer in Cobb County before

1474
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,079
getting into wrestling, which is where the gimmick came from.

1475
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,960
It didn't pay well, though he ended up getting into wrestling.

1476
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,880
He caught the eye of Dusty Rhodes. Even though he

1477
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,520
never had any formal training, He had two training sessions

1478
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,600
in the span of two weeks. That was it. He

1479
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,920
was a big guy, much bigger back then than he

1480
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:26,560
was when he turned babyface. So he ended up on

1481
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,279
TV pretty quick. He was wrestling squash matches and he

1482
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:33,479
got vaulted pretty quickly into a feud with Dusty, which

1483
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,319
did big business pretty much everywhere they went with it. It

1484
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,359
was the same thing with Hogan, you know, many years later.

1485
01:17:39,399 --> 01:17:42,840
They did huge business with the house show program that

1486
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,479
they worked. They did cover the infamous Starcade scaffold match

1487
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,399
from the night of the Skywalkers between the Road Warriors

1488
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,680
and the Midnight Express. This is the match where Jim

1489
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,399
Cornett was dangling off the edge of the scaffold and

1490
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,920
Bubba had one job he had one that night catch

1491
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,119
him on the way down. That they glossed over it

1492
01:18:05,159 --> 01:18:08,119
pretty quick. They didn't get too far into the weeds

1493
01:18:08,119 --> 01:18:11,600
on this. But Road Warrior Hawk actually wrestled that match

1494
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,359
with a broken leg. I say wrestled, I mean, but

1495
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,319
there's not much wrestling going on in a scaffold match.

1496
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,239
I've never actually seen a scaffold match that I enjoyed.

1497
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,319
I think they suck, and there's a reason that you

1498
01:18:23,359 --> 01:18:26,600
don't see them anymore. Everyone is so tentedive, everyone is

1499
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,760
so terrified to even be up there. It looks like

1500
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,039
they're moving in slow motion, especially back then. You know,

1501
01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:34,760
back then, generally speaking, the guys were so much bigger.

1502
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,520
They were fucking jacked up, And you got these big,

1503
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,439
three hundred pounds jacked up dudes climbing twelve to fifteen

1504
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,760
feet in the air on this little narrow scaffold. Yeah'll

1505
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,640
probably seeing their lives flash before their eyes. I wouldn't

1506
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,199
want to go up there. But the original idea that

1507
01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:55,079
Dusty pitched was that after the match, Cornett would throw

1508
01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:58,359
his legs up and he would fall backwards like a cheerleader,

1509
01:18:58,359 --> 01:19:00,359
and the midnights in Bubba would be down low to

1510
01:19:00,399 --> 01:19:03,600
catch him. But then Cornett saw how high the scaffold was,

1511
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,800
and he said he would end up killing all three

1512
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,000
of them. So he came up with the idea of

1513
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:10,720
just dropping down on his stomach on the scaffold and

1514
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,800
very slowly rolling over the edge, and he would dangle

1515
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,239
there for a little bit and at just the right

1516
01:19:16,279 --> 01:19:19,279
moment he would let go and Bubba would catch him.

1517
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,680
Bubba did not catch him. He was a few feet

1518
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,720
off and Cornet fell straight down. He blew out both

1519
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,720
his knees, including his ACL, and Bubba told him, you know, Jimmy,

1520
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:35,199
you fell so fast, Jimmy, you fell so fast. I

1521
01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:38,279
just I couldn't catch you. Cornett has said that not

1522
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:41,880
only did he blow out his ACL and destroy his miniscus,

1523
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,399
he tore all the ligaments in the knee that keep

1524
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,359
it attached to the femur and the tibia, and he

1525
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,159
never had the knee fixed, and he had it scoped,

1526
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,840
but he never had it fixed because it would have

1527
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,800
kept him off the road for months and he couldn't

1528
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,840
afford to take that much time off. You know, back then,

1529
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,720
if he didn't work, he didn't get paid. So instead

1530
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,840
he had the doctor scope it. I think he had

1531
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,680
him chop off all the little nerve endings that were

1532
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,279
floating around in there that caused the pain. Right, you

1533
01:20:08,359 --> 01:20:11,800
chop off the nerve endings, you won't feel anything. But

1534
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,720
there was another scaffold match the following year, and this

1535
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,640
time Bubba got up on the scaffold himself and he

1536
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,640
didn't fall off, but he took a punch to the balls.

1537
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,880
He still had to go up there though and work.

1538
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:26,520
He was part of the match and he ended up

1539
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,039
getting paid five thousand dollars for that. Everybody else got

1540
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:33,640
ten grand a piece, and that really bothered him. He

1541
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,000
was very hot about that, and ultimately it's what led

1542
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,680
to him going to the WWF. This is when Vince

1543
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,880
McMahon was looking for monsters to feed to Hogan. Once

1544
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,920
Vince found out that he worked as a real life

1545
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:51,039
corrections officer, the Big boss Man was born. Now they

1546
01:20:51,079 --> 01:20:53,399
completely skipped over his initial run as part of the

1547
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:59,000
Twin Towers with Akim Remember Akem The African Dream because

1548
01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:02,840
you see, Dusty Roads was the American dream, so Akim

1549
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,039
was the African dream who danced funny, which was their

1550
01:21:06,079 --> 01:21:08,840
way of making fun of Dusty before he ended up

1551
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,840
coming to the company. That's also how Virgil got his

1552
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,800
name with Ted d Biassi Dusty's their real name was Virgil.

1553
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:18,159
So they took this man's servant and they called him Virgil,

1554
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,039
and then Dusty came in and they put him in

1555
01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:23,520
polka dots, and I'll be damned if he didn't get

1556
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,880
over in spite of it. You know, sometimes natural charisma

1557
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,840
just can't be denied, no matter how ridiculous they try

1558
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,239
to make you look. Terry Taylor had no natural charisma.

1559
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,199
If they made Dusty Roads the Red Rooster, I guarantee

1560
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:38,000
you he would have had the fans in those buildings

1561
01:21:38,039 --> 01:21:42,319
crowing like roosters. I'm sad they skipped over the Twin

1562
01:21:42,399 --> 01:21:44,600
Towers run though, because one of my favorite matches from

1563
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,920
that era involved them actually live on NBC against Hulk

1564
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,159
Hogan and Randy Savage. It was the night the Mega

1565
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:53,960
Powers broke up. Akim fell through the ropes. He damn

1566
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,520
near broke his neck in that match, but it's still

1567
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,439
a top three Angle all time for me. In wrestling,

1568
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,479
they did cover boss Man feuding with Hogan as a

1569
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,520
singles and the famous steel cage match they had on

1570
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,359
Saturday Night's main event where Hogan gave him a superplex

1571
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,439
from the top of the cage, which was a crazy

1572
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,319
spot to see back then, especially from guys who were

1573
01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:18,479
that big. Hogan didn't have to be doing superlexes off

1574
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,079
the top in those hard ass rings, no less, it's

1575
01:22:21,079 --> 01:22:23,479
no wonder the man had ten or eleven back surgeries.

1576
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:26,479
But what's nuttier is that they did the same spot

1577
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,520
over and over again multiple times all over the house shows,

1578
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,079
and it ended up being one of the most successful

1579
01:22:32,079 --> 01:22:34,960
house show programs box office wise, that the company had

1580
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,039
ever seen. He actually worked Hogan years later in WCW

1581
01:22:39,079 --> 01:22:40,640
in the main event of the very first and Nitro

1582
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:43,119
at the Mall of America, so a lot of history

1583
01:22:43,159 --> 01:22:46,720
between those two. The two of them then became allies

1584
01:22:47,359 --> 01:22:49,960
when they turned boss Man babyface. This would have been

1585
01:22:50,119 --> 01:22:53,600
in nineteen ninety so now of course he could serve

1586
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,920
justice to all the bad guys and they can make

1587
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,760
a lot of money off boss Man merch. Remember they

1588
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:04,319
made those foam nightsticks. I had one of those wrestling

1589
01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:10,000
buddies hasbro figures. They should have made plastic boss man handcuffs.

1590
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,359
Could have made some money off that. When he turned babyface,

1591
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,439
he dropped a lot of weight. If you look at

1592
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,000
him from the time he debuted there in the feud

1593
01:23:20,039 --> 01:23:22,920
with Hogan to the time that you know he was

1594
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,399
working against Akim and Mister Perfect and all the other

1595
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,800
people that he worked against. Is a babyface. I mean,

1596
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,279
he had to have dropped at least one hundred pounds easily.

1597
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:37,800
Like it was that noticeable. And I had always wondered,

1598
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,079
you know why that was that he lost all the weight,

1599
01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:42,359
Like was it health related? Did he have like some

1600
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:45,199
sort of health scare, or did it have to do

1601
01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:48,520
with him just wanting to get himself in better shape cosmetically.

1602
01:23:49,359 --> 01:23:51,199
It definitely made him quicker, and it made him more

1603
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,560
agile in the ring, and he was already pretty agile

1604
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,159
for a big guy. Honestly one of the best big

1605
01:23:56,159 --> 01:23:59,840
guys in wrestling history. But what it was, Bruce Pritchard

1606
01:24:00,039 --> 01:24:03,239
talked about this on his podcast many years ago, was

1607
01:24:03,279 --> 01:24:05,479
that he had a knee injury at the time. It

1608
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,760
was really bothering him and plus Vince Vince did want

1609
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,359
him to drop some weight, and I guess the doctor

1610
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,319
told him, like, you have two options here. I mean,

1611
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:15,840
you can have surgery to fix your knee or you

1612
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,680
could drop the weight. And he chose to drop the

1613
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,279
weight and the knee stopped bothering him, wouldn't you know?

1614
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:27,039
He felt a lot better. But they got the mountee

1615
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:32,039
for this episode. Jacques Rougeau, who just got booed by

1616
01:24:32,079 --> 01:24:35,560
his fellow countryman on the aw pay per view last

1617
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,199
weekend and he was almost kicked out of the building.

1618
01:24:40,399 --> 01:24:42,520
They were at the they were in Montreal, they were

1619
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,960
at the Bell Center and this is a very Jacques story.

1620
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,399
So they did a pre show segment. I know, I'm

1621
01:24:48,399 --> 01:24:50,439
taking a detour here, but they did a pre show

1622
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,720
segment last Sunday honoring eighty years of the Rougeau dynasty

1623
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,960
and they had Jacques and Raymond in the ring for it.

1624
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,880
And Meltzer reported that the reason that there was no

1625
01:25:02,359 --> 01:25:05,680
video tribute like before they came out, maybe you think, oh,

1626
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,319
they play video or something. The reason there was no

1627
01:25:08,399 --> 01:25:10,880
tribute video was Jacques had told them, oh, I'll take

1628
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,760
care of it, like I'll put the video together, and

1629
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,640
apparently he got it to them like the day of

1630
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,079
the show, and I don't know why they would have

1631
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:21,439
been relying on him to do the video, but in

1632
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,800
any event, he gets the video over to them and

1633
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,680
the video is too long. It has music in the

1634
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,359
background that they don't have the rights to. It has

1635
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,279
AI elements in it that they were never going to use,

1636
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,319
so they were like, we're not using this, and he

1637
01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:38,520
pitched a fit over it, and he threw a temper

1638
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,720
tange from to the point where one person told him

1639
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,600
either calm down or we're gonna throw your ass out

1640
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,439
of here. And he actually posted the video to his

1641
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,600
Facebook page if you want to see it. I think

1642
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,479
it's pretty tame overall. I mean, of course, he included

1643
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,840
the footage of him pitting Hogan back in ninety seven

1644
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,119
from that Fancam footage. But in the episode here he

1645
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,239
said that he wasn't a real Mounte, but he was

1646
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:03,960
a real jerk. Yeah. Well, at least he's self aware.

1647
01:26:05,159 --> 01:26:07,119
But he's also the only person I can remember on

1648
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:09,039
Dark Side of the Ring to be dressed in full

1649
01:26:09,079 --> 01:26:11,560
gimmick while he was being interviewed. He had the whole

1650
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,800
Mounty costume on, right down to the replica Intercontinental title,

1651
01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:18,720
which he held for literally two days, but he was

1652
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,399
there to talk about his jailhouse match with Boss Man.

1653
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:27,199
It's Summer Slim nineteen ninety one. God, I love that match. Honestly,

1654
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,079
it's the post match more than the match itself. After

1655
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:33,800
he loses, he gets handcuffed and he gets taken and

1656
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,199
the camera follows him as he's being taken away to

1657
01:26:36,279 --> 01:26:39,479
the paddy wagon out back in Madison Square Garden, and

1658
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,520
for the rest of the pay per view, they would

1659
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,239
cut back to various scenes of him being taken to

1660
01:26:45,319 --> 01:26:49,399
the precinct. He's being fingerprinted, you know, give me your finger,

1661
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,560
you want the finger, here's the finger, right, getting his

1662
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,520
mugshot taken, and then it ultimately ac culminates with him

1663
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,159
being thrown into a cell with some guy in leather.

1664
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:02,199
The whole thing was so wacky, but it was so great.

1665
01:27:03,119 --> 01:27:05,319
It was so great, and you could tell like he

1666
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,720
loves being the Mounty. He loves being the Mounty. So

1667
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,479
when I met him many years ago, I was doing

1668
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,359
interviews for Fight TV at wressel Con. This would have

1669
01:27:14,359 --> 01:27:18,319
been when WrestleMania came to Orlando, and he was one

1670
01:27:18,319 --> 01:27:20,399
of the people I had a chance to briefly talk

1671
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,159
to was him and Jimmy Hart, and he was in

1672
01:27:22,279 --> 01:27:25,880
full Mounty gear. He like he was the Mounty in

1673
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,520
that moment, and more than any other character he may

1674
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,520
have portrayed, the rouge O Brothers anything like that, Like

1675
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,079
he's the Mounty and nobody loves him more than he does.

1676
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,600
But those segments were just they were so entertaining. And

1677
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,439
the whole time, by the way, all the stuff that's

1678
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,279
going on at the precincts, he's just yelling at the officers.

1679
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:48,119
Do you know who I am? I'm the Mountie. My god,

1680
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,000
fucking love it. I will gladly take these segments over

1681
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:57,600
one Dan Hausen concert any day. They didn't get into

1682
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,720
any of Boss Man's feud with Nails, though, the evil

1683
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,840
x con who was out for revenge on the man

1684
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:07,520
who put him away unjustly, I'm sure, and whose voice

1685
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,920
they would alter in post production on all the TV shows.

1686
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,159
Every time he cut a promo, I swear to guy

1687
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:15,359
like he would be out there. And again, you know,

1688
01:28:15,399 --> 01:28:17,119
I'm a younger fan, I don't know any better, and

1689
01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:20,800
I'm listening to this guy cut a promo. Boss Man,

1690
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:29,640
you put me a womb boss I'm gonna Beachress Boss Burn.

1691
01:28:32,279 --> 01:28:35,199
That's literally a nails promo right there. And then of

1692
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:39,640
course there's the the unreleased promo my Summer Slim Payoffs,

1693
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,680
a little life VIDs. There should be an extra zero

1694
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:50,640
this shit give me my fucking money vice anyway, but

1695
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,760
that was effectively the end of boss Man's run there.

1696
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,159
You know, the drawback to him working that schedule, and

1697
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,680
the schedule back then was just inhumane. I mean you

1698
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,840
go back and you look at that WA schedule in

1699
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,760
the eighties and even into the early nineties, it was inhumane.

1700
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,680
I mean they ran them like pieces of meat, you know,

1701
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,800
when they would have B cruse and C crews and

1702
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,560
they would run multiple shows on the same night across

1703
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,960
the country, and it was just insane. And he was

1704
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,640
never home to see his family, and his daughter grew

1705
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,920
very distant from him because, yeah, she was very young,

1706
01:29:22,119 --> 01:29:25,279
and to her, you know, he had become this stranger,

1707
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,720
which is really sad to hear her say. That's what

1708
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,479
she said in the episode. But that's why they saw

1709
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,640
his WCW run as a blessing, you know, to you

1710
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,399
and me, his WCW run was nothing memorable, and he

1711
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,960
ran through a bunch of different gimmicks because he couldn't

1712
01:29:40,039 --> 01:29:43,119
use the Big boss Man name anymore, so he came

1713
01:29:43,159 --> 01:29:45,960
in using his old Big Bubba Rogers name, and then

1714
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,199
they made him the Boss, which Vince threatened to sue

1715
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:52,000
them over because it was too close to his old likeness.

1716
01:29:52,319 --> 01:29:54,880
So then it was the Guardian Angel. Then he just

1717
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,600
went by his real name for a while. The only

1718
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,840
thing of note that he ever did there was when

1719
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,720
he initially came in, he feuded with Vader sting Invader.

1720
01:30:04,039 --> 01:30:06,279
This feud was not but they still had some good

1721
01:30:06,319 --> 01:30:09,239
matches together. You know, they worked. God how many fucking

1722
01:30:09,239 --> 01:30:11,000
pay per views did they work in ninety four? Like

1723
01:30:11,039 --> 01:30:14,399
three or four pay per views Spring Stampede. I know

1724
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,079
is won Bash at the Beach, which was Hogan's debut

1725
01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:25,159
against Flair, Boss Man Invader, worked Fall Brawl and Halloween Havoc,

1726
01:30:26,359 --> 01:30:28,359
and then after that, the only thing, the only thing

1727
01:30:28,399 --> 01:30:32,079
I remember him doing after that, he joined the nWo,

1728
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,960
which I mean, who gives his shit because everybody joined

1729
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,560
the nWo, But he joined the nWo and he had

1730
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:45,399
a Mexican death match with Hugh Morris. Now, why Big

1731
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:50,039
Bubba and Hugh Morris would have a Mexican death match.

1732
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:52,840
I have no idea. I don't remember the context. I

1733
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,119
don't remember the story behind it, if there was a

1734
01:30:56,199 --> 01:30:59,439
story behind it. What I do remember is that Bubba

1735
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,600
ran him down with a motorcycle and he won the

1736
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,880
match by count out. So I remember that. And I

1737
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,720
can't even blame Russo for this. You cannot even lay

1738
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,840
this at the feet of Vince Russo. This was early

1739
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,479
ninety seven. But if you didn't know the date, and

1740
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,880
I told you that boss Men and Bill DeMott were

1741
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,319
in a Mexican death match and boss Man ran him

1742
01:31:19,319 --> 01:31:22,399
down with a motorcycle, one hundred percent, you would guess

1743
01:31:22,399 --> 01:31:26,720
that this was during the Russo era of WCW. Vince

1744
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,720
Russo actually was also interviewed for this because they got

1745
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:33,760
into boss Man's return during the Attitude era. Now, Jim

1746
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,479
Cornett calls the creative for boss Man's second run rotten

1747
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,720
some of the worst stuff ever in the history of wrestling.

1748
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:43,720
And I will never get tired of these episodes where

1749
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,880
he and Russo take shots at one another. It's just

1750
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,640
too bad they're not in the same room together. But

1751
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,880
if they don't eventually do that, if they don't eventually

1752
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,119
end the series, Like eventually, Dark Side of the Ring

1753
01:31:54,399 --> 01:31:57,039
will come to an end. And when that time comes,

1754
01:31:57,079 --> 01:31:59,880
I hope it's not one of these like mid season cancelations.

1755
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,079
Maybe they can get a heads up and they could

1756
01:32:02,119 --> 01:32:05,560
do like a big series finale type episode. And my

1757
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,079
hope is that at the end of all of this

1758
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,880
it ends with the two of them face to face

1759
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,520
in the same room. If it doesn't end with that,

1760
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,239
I'm gonna be very disappointed, because you're you're gonna go out.

1761
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,239
I mean, at least take the series out in the

1762
01:32:17,239 --> 01:32:19,279
blaze of glory, right, You got to give the people

1763
01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:23,319
what they want. But Cornett, look, he's not totally wrong here.

1764
01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:25,920
Some of it was rotten. But the stuff boss Man

1765
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,600
did in his second stint there, it's a guilty pleasure

1766
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,720
of mine. I actually love it. So I can't agree

1767
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,000
with him totally on that. I can understand, you know,

1768
01:32:34,039 --> 01:32:38,000
the family not liking it. It was it was very questionable.

1769
01:32:38,119 --> 01:32:41,600
They brought him back first as Vince McMahon's bodyguard. He

1770
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,319
was clad in a black tactical vest. He looked like

1771
01:32:44,359 --> 01:32:48,439
the grandfather of the Shield. They brought this man back

1772
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,520
and his first night in he was working with Stone

1773
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,720
Cold Steve Austin, and I was there that night. It

1774
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,720
was my birthday gift that year, tickets to Raw at

1775
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,279
the nasau Colise. It was the same night that Austin

1776
01:33:00,319 --> 01:33:04,199
ports Cement into Vince's limo, but the main event was

1777
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:08,319
Stone Cold and the Rock against Undertaker and Kine. There

1778
01:33:08,359 --> 01:33:10,680
could be no better match to sum up the Attitude

1779
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,520
era than that one right there. And boss Man attacks

1780
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,640
Austin with a nightstick at the very end of the show,

1781
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,159
at the very end of the match, and he pulls

1782
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:19,520
the mask off for the big reveal, and I think

1783
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,880
that's how they went off the air. And the plan

1784
01:33:22,039 --> 01:33:25,279
supposedly had been for him to feud with Austin, but

1785
01:33:25,359 --> 01:33:28,439
there was a blown spot during Austin's Deadly Game match

1786
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,920
at Survivor Series with Mankind where boss Man was supposed

1787
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,880
to run in and hit him with a chair, except

1788
01:33:35,079 --> 01:33:37,439
nobody could find where boss Man was. Apparently he was

1789
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,199
busy in the back going over his match later or

1790
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:43,920
whatever later with the Undertaker, deep in conversation, I guess

1791
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,119
with the Undertaker. Meanwhile, this match is going on and

1792
01:33:47,119 --> 01:33:50,319
they're getting to the spot, and I think Vince, because

1793
01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:52,880
Vince was at ringside, and Patterson was there, brisco all

1794
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:58,000
of them, and Vince's like, where's boss Man? And they

1795
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,560
didn't know he ran out, so they had to call

1796
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,079
an audible and they had Briscoe get in the ring

1797
01:34:04,119 --> 01:34:06,680
and he hit I think Slaughter was there too, and

1798
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,840
Briscoe gets in the ring and he hits Austin with

1799
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,159
one of the worst chair shots that you will ever see. Now,

1800
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:14,840
it's not as bad as the Lance Storm one to

1801
01:34:16,199 --> 01:34:18,960
was it RVD? I think in ECW it wasn't as

1802
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,560
bad as that. It wasn't as bad as the Hulk

1803
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:26,279
Hogan Love tap with the chair to Conan's head in WCW.

1804
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,720
But it's pretty bad. And it was bad enough that

1805
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,520
Austin when he got to the back, Austin just cussed

1806
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,159
him out, like he went off on him. So that

1807
01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:38,960
ended any chance of Boston Men working an actual program

1808
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,720
with Austin. I mean, look, it's not like it would

1809
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,640
have been a long one anyway. I mean, this would

1810
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,840
have been in the period between Survivors series and the

1811
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,239
Rumble in ninety nine, all right, so maybe they would

1812
01:34:48,279 --> 01:34:49,840
have gotten a pay per view match out of it,

1813
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,760
maybe at that December in Your House show Austin an Undertaker.

1814
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,640
They had a buried a live match on that show.

1815
01:34:56,199 --> 01:34:58,960
Maybe instead of Austin Undertaker buried alive, it would have

1816
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:03,279
been Austin against the Man. But outside of that, believe me,

1817
01:35:03,319 --> 01:35:05,680
any sort of Austin boss Man thing, it would have

1818
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,760
been brief. I'm not even sure. There would have been

1819
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,920
a pay per view match, maybe a television main event

1820
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:15,600
at best. But then they got into the hanging spot

1821
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:20,159
from his hell in a Cell match with Undertaker WrestleMania fifteen,

1822
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,520
which was not a good match, and it was Russo's

1823
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,920
idea to do the mock hanging and they tell him

1824
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,640
like that. You could hear the producer in the background

1825
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,239
tell Russo, you know boss Man's family. This was like

1826
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:31,920
the first time or one of the first times his

1827
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,880
family had come to see him live and they were

1828
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,439
in attendance for this, and Russo just laughs. He's like,

1829
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,079
oh my, oh, I had no idea, Bro, the first

1830
01:35:42,119 --> 01:35:45,920
I'm hearing of this, bro. And Cornett said, how do

1831
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,800
you come back from a hanging? I mean, the man

1832
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,319
has a point. I mean, in aw, they would still

1833
01:35:52,399 --> 01:35:55,520
kick out at two, but I mean that's besides the point.

1834
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,760
So we go from him being hanged to him feuding

1835
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,039
with Al Snow. Not sure which is worse, but he's

1836
01:36:02,079 --> 01:36:05,880
feuding with Al Snow and he steals his pet Chihuahua Pepper.

1837
01:36:07,239 --> 01:36:11,600
He cooks the dog. He feeds the dog to Al Snow.

1838
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,760
He fed Al Snow some pepper steak, and boss Man's

1839
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,479
daughter had to go to school the next day and

1840
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,159
answer questions from her friends about why her father was

1841
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:25,640
cooking someone's dog, and that then led to the infamous

1842
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,159
Kennel from Hell match to blow off their feud, a

1843
01:36:28,199 --> 01:36:30,800
match so great that they never did it again. Even

1844
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,640
the mere mention of it probably would be enough to

1845
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,359
get you fired and blackballed from the industry. But after

1846
01:36:37,399 --> 01:36:39,760
that he transitioned into a feud with the Big Show,

1847
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,800
which included boss Man hiring a fake police officer to

1848
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,319
inform Big Show that his father had passed away, even

1849
01:36:47,359 --> 01:36:50,640
though he had not. But then he did, and so

1850
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,800
boss Man crashed the funeral of Big Show's father. He

1851
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:58,479
dragged Big Show's father's casket through the cemetery hitch to

1852
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,840
the back of the Blues Mob from the Blues Brothers movie.

1853
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,159
This was their world title feud, by the way, because

1854
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:07,840
Big Show won the Championship at Survivor Series that year.

1855
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,800
This is your WWE title feud. They ended up having

1856
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,000
a three minute match at the Armageddon pay per view

1857
01:37:15,079 --> 01:37:19,279
that absolutely fucking sucked, and it involved Big Show laying

1858
01:37:19,319 --> 01:37:21,640
on the floor outside. For I would say about eighty

1859
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:27,359
five percent of it. Now, was all of this stuff tasteless? Absolutely,

1860
01:37:28,359 --> 01:37:30,319
they did a lot of tasteless shit back then. This

1861
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,479
was only a year or so after they shot the

1862
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,399
angle with a drunk Road Warrior Hawk being pushed off

1863
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,399
the top of the Titan Tron by Draws. But I

1864
01:37:38,399 --> 01:37:40,319
would be lying if I said that I didn't find

1865
01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:44,199
some of these segments very entertaining, because I did. I did,

1866
01:37:44,399 --> 01:37:47,319
And Boss Man was fully committed to the role. He

1867
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,840
was such a rap bastard in that feud. He was great.

1868
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,199
I mean, look look at what they had this man

1869
01:37:53,359 --> 01:37:58,279
do in ninety nine, feeding a man's dog to him

1870
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:03,079
and dragging someone's cask get through the graveyard. We don't

1871
01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:06,720
get heels like that anymore. But look, I understand where

1872
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,760
Cornett is coming from when he says that it sucks

1873
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,319
that most people may only remember Ray from all the

1874
01:38:11,319 --> 01:38:13,960
stupid shit they had him doing in ninety nine. Right,

1875
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,680
instead of the fact that he was a great worker

1876
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,000
who had this whole career before that and worked some

1877
01:38:19,079 --> 01:38:22,560
of the biggest names in the industry that I understand,

1878
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:25,119
and that does suck. If there are fans out there

1879
01:38:25,119 --> 01:38:27,680
who identify him only for that and nothing else that

1880
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,520
he ever did, then that's that's terrible. They also interviewed

1881
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,800
referee Nick Patrick for this and he talked about the

1882
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,880
boys using somas, which is a muscle relaxer. There used

1883
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,239
to be a thing in wrestling called a soma coma

1884
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,000
because they would take so many of them. And this

1885
01:38:44,039 --> 01:38:47,039
is where the episode went from the absurd, silly haha

1886
01:38:47,079 --> 01:38:50,359
stuff to dark side of the ring. Boss Man was

1887
01:38:50,399 --> 01:38:52,840
popping soma's just to not hurt anymore. He was in

1888
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,000
great pain. His family never saw him like that before.

1889
01:38:56,039 --> 01:38:58,079
He you know, passing out of the dinner table, I

1890
01:38:58,079 --> 01:39:02,359
mean stuff like that. And he wasn't a pill guy,

1891
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,560
you know, he wasn't really a drug guide. But he's

1892
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,000
got a bad back, his knee hurts, he's still working,

1893
01:39:07,359 --> 01:39:10,600
he's still on the road, and he's self medicating to

1894
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,800
try to soldier on. And it was very easy back

1895
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,119
then to get prescriptions from certain doctors. These Mark doctors

1896
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,399
for whatever they needed. Oh hey, I've got a prescription

1897
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,600
for it, so it's okay. You know, look, the doc

1898
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:27,239
gave me a prescription. We're all good. How Chris ben

1899
01:39:27,319 --> 01:39:30,239
Wah factored into this is that boss Man was getting

1900
01:39:30,279 --> 01:39:33,880
his prescriptions from doctor phil Aston, the same doctor in

1901
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,319
Georgia who provided a lot of the other wrestlers with

1902
01:39:36,399 --> 01:39:41,760
their candy, shall we say, including Chris Benwih That famous

1903
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,079
final photo of ben Wa that was taken the same

1904
01:39:44,159 --> 01:39:48,600
day that they believe he killed Nancy that was taken

1905
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:52,920
in doctor Aston's office, which was later rated, and he

1906
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,800
admitted to illegally prescribing drugs, sometimes even without examining the patients.

1907
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,039
He pled guilty to like one hundred seventy five counts

1908
01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:03,640
against him. He got sent to prison for ten years.

1909
01:40:04,079 --> 01:40:06,399
He served his sentence, he got out, but he's dead

1910
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,279
now and the world is a better place for it.

1911
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,680
Ben Wah and the boss Man were actually very close

1912
01:40:13,039 --> 01:40:17,079
again ben Wa, He's never even mentioned here, but the

1913
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:20,039
two of them were very close. Chris Jericho, in his

1914
01:40:20,079 --> 01:40:23,640
second book, I believe it was his second book, said

1915
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:25,960
that when boss Man passed away, ben Wah called him

1916
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:27,960
up and he was crying, and he was saying, I

1917
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,479
can't do this anymore. I'm tired of all my friends

1918
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,520
dying on me. And that was a year before Eddie died,

1919
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,159
and then a few months after that, Johnny Grunge died,

1920
01:40:38,359 --> 01:40:41,520
whom ben Wah was also very close with. I mean,

1921
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,399
that man was a time bomb waiting to explode. But

1922
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,359
I dug up the journal entry that ben wa wrote.

1923
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,840
His father gave a copy of it to IRV Mushnick

1924
01:40:52,199 --> 01:40:55,760
years ago. His father had told Mushnik that Chris's two

1925
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,479
best friends were Eddie Guerrero and Ray Trailer and I

1926
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,279
never knew they were that close. But you read this

1927
01:41:02,359 --> 01:41:04,600
and it's very clear how much boss Man meant to him.

1928
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,399
This is what he wrote for those of you who

1929
01:41:06,399 --> 01:41:08,800
may never have heard this before. This is in Benoi's

1930
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:13,359
own words. September twenty second, two thousand and four, Ray

1931
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,359
Trailor passed away from a heart attack. I don't remember

1932
01:41:16,399 --> 01:41:18,439
the first time I met Ray, but that seems to

1933
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,880
be with a lot of my life. I don't know

1934
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,479
if it's because I've lost a lot of memories because

1935
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:25,920
of bumping, or if I just don't like looking in

1936
01:41:26,239 --> 01:41:29,479
rear view mirrors. Too much. This one thing I hate

1937
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,359
about myself for these walls I put up around myself

1938
01:41:32,399 --> 01:41:36,239
sometimes when I feel hurt and everything seems to be oblivious.

1939
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,439
I love Ray Traylor. He's the only person that I

1940
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,239
know that I've never seen in a bad mood or

1941
01:41:42,319 --> 01:41:45,800
not smile or not make me smile. Ever, he always

1942
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,920
made time for me, whether to talk or lend a

1943
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,880
helping hand. Ray Traylor was a real person, no guess work.

1944
01:41:52,119 --> 01:41:54,399
I like to say. Ray Traylor was a man's man.

1945
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,199
He always used to say that about me to me.

1946
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,800
I would spend days with him. In every half hour,

1947
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,880
so though it seemed like every five minutes, he would say,

1948
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,159
Chris Benoi, have I told you I loved you yet?

1949
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,079
And I used to laugh and he would laugh. But

1950
01:42:08,119 --> 01:42:09,800
by the end of the day, whenever we were done

1951
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,359
doing whatever we were doing, we would hug and I

1952
01:42:12,359 --> 01:42:14,560
would tell him I loved him. I used to laugh

1953
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,520
when I would hear that from him all day. I

1954
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,479
used to laugh. Thinking about it now I don't, but

1955
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,640
I know why he did it and what he meant.

1956
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,960
Ray Trailer loved life and everything it offered. It is

1957
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,800
September twenty fifth today. I'm sitting on a plane on

1958
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,199
my way to Sue's City to wrestle. I just left

1959
01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:33,760
Pickett Mills Baptist Church, where the service for Ray Trailer

1960
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,520
was held. I spent time with his wife, Angie, and

1961
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,520
two young daughters, Lacey and Megan. I listened to some

1962
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,680
of his friends get up and tell stories that made

1963
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,560
me laugh while I was crying. The most emotional part

1964
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,600
was listening to his daughter Lacey speak. I wanted to

1965
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:50,640
take all of her pain and sadness away. I pray

1966
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,159
that God gives them the strength and faith they need

1967
01:42:53,159 --> 01:42:57,960
to get through this. Angie, Lacey, Megan. As Nancy and

1968
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,239
I left the church and watch them put Rays off

1969
01:43:00,239 --> 01:43:02,920
and into the hearse we both waved goodbye one last time,

1970
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,000
and I thanked him in my heart and thanked God

1971
01:43:05,039 --> 01:43:07,000
for putting him in my life, and I said, I

1972
01:43:07,079 --> 01:43:11,560
love you Ray. It's tough to hear that things got

1973
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,800
bad enough that Ray and his wife separated. She couldn't

1974
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,720
take it anymore. And then Kurt Hennick died and that

1975
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,279
really bothered Ray. The two of them were very close,

1976
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:23,760
and that seemed to be the wake up call that

1977
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,159
he needed, because after Kurt's death, he told his wife,

1978
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:29,000
look I want to come back home. You know. He

1979
01:43:29,039 --> 01:43:33,119
wanted her forgiveness, and they renewed their wedding vows, and

1980
01:43:33,159 --> 01:43:35,319
his wife says that she never saw him get messed

1981
01:43:35,359 --> 01:43:38,199
up again after that. He did still have pain, though,

1982
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,000
and he had been complaining one night about his knees,

1983
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,720
and she took the kids upstairs to bed. He said,

1984
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,239
I'll be up soon to tuck them in, and he

1985
01:43:46,319 --> 01:43:48,840
never came upstairs. And when his wife came down to

1986
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,520
grab a drink for one of the kids, she looked

1987
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:54,920
over and she noticed him on the couch and his

1988
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:58,680
color didn't look right. And to hear his daughter say

1989
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,920
that she won't ever forget hearing her mother's screams and

1990
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,359
coming downstairs and finding her dad like that. You know,

1991
01:44:05,399 --> 01:44:07,319
his wife called nine to one one. They told her

1992
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,359
lay him flat on the ground. The guy was over

1993
01:44:10,399 --> 01:44:12,960
three hundred pounds though at that point, you know, so

1994
01:44:13,039 --> 01:44:15,880
for a woman and her daughter, I mean, that was

1995
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,560
not an easy thing to do. But his daughter had

1996
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,720
just started taking CPR classes like the week before, so

1997
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:26,840
she started chess compressions and if you ever watch doctor

1998
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,880
Mike on YouTube, chest compressions, Chess compressions, chess compressions. Every

1999
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,680
time I say that out loud, He's the first person

2000
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,479
I think of. But she was doing chess compressions and

2001
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,600
giving him mouth to mouth and she said that she

2002
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:42,119
could feel his last breaths in her mouth. Like this

2003
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:46,600
is the part that is just it's heartbreaking. The paramedics arrived,

2004
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,479
but they couldn't revive him, and he was only forty

2005
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,279
one years old, and his wife says that his whole

2006
01:44:52,319 --> 01:44:55,960
family died young from heart issues. Cornett says he died

2007
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,279
a week before the first Midnight Express reunion that they

2008
01:45:00,279 --> 01:45:03,560
had planned. I guess at whatever convention they were going

2009
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:07,479
to be working. And this is the point where Cornet

2010
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,079
had to excuse himself to get up because he just

2011
01:45:10,359 --> 01:45:14,680
totally broke down crying. They show part of his WWE

2012
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,920
Hall of Fame induction in twenty sixteen. We got a

2013
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,560
lot of home video footage throughout the episode, which was

2014
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,560
very cool to see. It's very similar to the Hulk

2015
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,239
Hogan docu series on Netflix in that regard, and I

2016
01:45:26,239 --> 01:45:28,319
thought it did a good job of filling in the

2017
01:45:28,359 --> 01:45:30,920
gaps on his personal life, because you know, to us,

2018
01:45:31,279 --> 01:45:33,840
he was the big boss man. We didn't get to

2019
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,520
know Ray trailer, and by all accounts, he was a

2020
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,920
good person and he was a great father, and if

2021
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:42,199
that was his only legacy, that would be a fine

2022
01:45:42,279 --> 01:45:45,199
legacy for him to leave behind. But he was also

2023
01:45:45,239 --> 01:45:48,319
a great wrestler who was very successful at his craft,

2024
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,720
and by all accounts, never let all of that success

2025
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,199
that he had early on in his career get to

2026
01:45:54,239 --> 01:45:56,119
his head. He was still the same person he was

2027
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:59,039
when he got into the business, just a little more famous.

2028
01:46:00,399 --> 01:46:02,880
All right, again, I'm gonna be with you live on

2029
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,239
YouTube tonight as soon as Night two of Summer Slam

2030
01:46:05,319 --> 01:46:07,359
is over, So close out the weekend with me and

2031
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,119
join me there. We had a lot of fun last night,

2032
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:12,000
so hopefully I'll get to see you back there. And

2033
01:46:12,039 --> 01:46:14,399
then this week we have the Raw post show on

2034
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,560
YouTube Live on Monday night. We'll have the Dynamite Grand

2035
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:21,039
Slam Mexico post show on Wednesday. There will be no

2036
01:46:21,159 --> 01:46:23,960
SmackDown post show on Friday, because again I will be

2037
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,880
at the NYC Arena for a big House of Glory

2038
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,760
show that will be streaming live on YouTube, just not

2039
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,479
on my channel, that'll be on the Hog Channel. I

2040
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,239
hope you can join, if not in person, hopefully on YouTube.

2041
01:46:35,239 --> 01:46:37,880
That's going to be a big, big show on Friday.

2042
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,520
Next Sunday, I'll be back with you as usual for

2043
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,760
episode nine to seventy five of The Solemn Monster Sounds Off.

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01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,760
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Follow me on x as well. I'll probably be live

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01:47:11,239 --> 01:47:13,760
stay safe, have yourselves a great rest of your weekend.

2054
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,439
If you are watching Summer Slam tonight, enjoy. I'll see

2055
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,039
you for the post show and back here for nine

2056
01:47:19,039 --> 01:47:22,680
to seventy five next Sunday. Until then, take care, guys.

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01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,960
The Solemn Monster Sounds Off. So then it was backstage

2058
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,800
two Dan Housen's Lair with the Miz and Kit Wilson's

2059
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,439
still sitting there. You know they are sitting there looking

2060
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,399
very zombie. Five They may well have I mean, they

2061
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,840
were electrocuted, so they may well have lost all control

2062
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,520
of their bodily functions. For those keeping score, we have

2063
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,920
one mute person on this show every single week who

2064
01:47:45,079 --> 01:47:48,600
just flanks and lays there while his wife watches helplessly.

2065
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,640
And then we have a couple of dudes, one of

2066
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,760
whom I should point out as a former two time

2067
01:47:53,319 --> 01:47:57,720
WWE champion and wrestle Mania headliner, who sits there every week,

2068
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,439
so mostly mute because these two men were previously electrocuted

2069
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:04,720
weeks ago. The fact that Maz is a two time

2070
01:48:05,079 --> 01:48:07,439
WWE champion and wrestle Media headliner. I don't want to

2071
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,600
hear anybody ever complain about fucking Sammy Zan ever again.

2072
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:11,479
The fuck out of here.

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01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:16,119
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