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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. Over the past week or so, there's been

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a huge debate about the roughly fifty thousand files that

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were missing from the Epstein Files drop, and of course

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those files, a lot of them had to do with

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Donald Trump, and considering the issues surrounding transparency here and

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the issues when it comes to a cover up, you'd

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think they'd want to be on point. But the fantastic

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people over at the DOJ thought it would be a

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good idea to just take these files down. Well now,

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according to the DOJ, they're back up. So the question

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is why'd they take them down in the first place.

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And in my opinion, that's one of the biggest problems

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with this whole entire job. They didn't offer any context whatsoever,

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so they left a fertile ground for all kinds of

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weird the sprout up. And that was part of the plan.

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Remember when this all first started, and I told you

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they wanted you confused, that they wanted you to get

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exhausted and feel like you're chasing your tail. This is

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what I was talking about. This is what they always do.

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And now they got their new shiny object right the

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war in Iran, Make no mistake, that is something that

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is certainly helping them out. When you have a situation

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like we have over in Iran, people are going to

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be interested in that, right. People are going to be

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following along as the world teeters on the edge of

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World War III. So it certainly works to the advantage

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of the Trump administration. And whether it's by design or not,

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who knows. We can't prove it one way or the other.

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But it's certainly beneficial to the Trump administration and to

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the people who want to keep all this stuff under

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rap still. So today we have an article from CNN

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and the headline Justice Department posts FBI interview memos related

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to Trump sex abuse allegation. This article was authored by

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Hannah Rabinowitz, Casey Tolin, Paula Reid, and Isabelle Chapman. The

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Justice Department has posted online three FBI memos describing interviews

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related to unverified sexual assault allegations against President Donald Trump

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that had been missing from the massive trove of Epstein

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files released by the Department of Justice. And of course

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people are going to have questions if you pull that

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stuff down, what do you expect is going to happen,

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especially considering the environment, Like there's a bunch of unanswered

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questions as it is, and you want to go and

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cause more confusion. A CNN analysis discovered dozens of Winnes

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interviews were missing from the online archive of evidence related

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to the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, all of which were memorialized

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in so called three to two memos laying out what

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an interview we told FBI agents. The three O twos

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do not include other corroborating information or agent's opinions. Well,

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I wonder why not? Again, more confusion, and they thrive

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on it. The more you're confused, the more you're frustrated,

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the more likely you just throw your hands up in

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defeat and say, to hell with it. Right, we've all

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been there. But the problem is the law calls for

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this stuff to be included. There was no carve out

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for three O twos. So I hope that Pam Bondi

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is asked these questions when she is deposed in front

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of Congress, when her number is called. But I have

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a funny feeling she's not going to answer very many questions.

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Like I said before, I think that all of these

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people feel like they're going to be protected by pardons,

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so they're gonna do and say whatever they want. Among

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the missing records were three memos about interviews with a

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woman who told agents that Epstein had repeatedly abused her

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physically and sexually decades ago, starting when she was approximately

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thirteen years of age, and who also accused Trump of

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sexually assaulting her. And look, these are accusations, right, allegations.

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We don't know what's real and what's not. But the

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problem is there should have been an investigation, and obviously

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there wasn't, or if there was, it was just a

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cursory investigation and not a serious one. And that would

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have been the best case scenario for Donald Trump, right,

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because now he could point back and say, look, they

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investigated this, and here's all the documentation that shows I

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had nothing to do with it. But instead of doing that,

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once again, they try and be sneaky and they hide things,

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pull things down, and cause an optics firestorm for themselves

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that was avoidable. Well, if Trump is innocent, right, it's

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really what it comes down to. And again, I don't know,

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I wasn't there. These are the allegations that are being made,

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and from my perspective, I think that the real issue

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here is the way that it was handled and the

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cover up that came after, because I don't think there's

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any way to prove one way or the other the

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allegations that are being made by this young lady against

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Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Now does that mean they're

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not true? Of course not. I don't put anything out

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of the realm of possibility when we're talking about Jeffrey

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Epstein and as disgusting friends. But there's certainly a lot

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of gray area. There's no smoking gun. But when it

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comes to this cover up, I don't think there's any

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doubt about what's going on, and I think it's important

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to stay on target right. If we want real accountability,

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we obviously need to have concrete evidence, and I think

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as this continues to play out, there's going to be

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plenty of evidence when all is said and done, that

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this was in fact a cover up. And I think

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that if anyone gets in trouble for anything here as

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far as the administration goes, that'll be it. But the

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caveat always is the pardon. And if you don't think

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these people are getting a blanket pardon, the same way

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Biden gave a blanket pardon. You're crazy one percent. So

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that means no accountability, that means no oversight. We have

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a bunch of tenured professors running the government. Isn't that nice?

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Trump has consistently denied wrongdoing in connection with Epstein. In

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a statement on Thursday, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt

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described the claims from the FBI interviews as completely baseless,

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backed by zero credible evidence. She also questioned the credibility

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of the accuser, whose name is redacted in the files,

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pointing to her criminal record. Yikes, that is not a

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good look. Even if she has a criminal record, Does

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that mean she couldn't have been abused? Is that what

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that really means? And if you were wondering why Jeffrey

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Epstein targeted people like these girls, this is why. Because

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there's vile people out there, like Caroline Leavitt that don't

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understand that not everybody was born rich and with a

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silver spoon in their mouth. I know that's the way

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she grew up, and she never had any need to

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do anything like this to make a couple of bucks.

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But when you're poor and you come from a broken home,

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things are different. And it's real courageous for the White

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House Press secretary to question this girl's credibility. Could easily

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just said the FBI reports say what they say. I

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have no other comment on that. We're moving on, but no,

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they have to get a dig in right, And that's

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just the mo of this administration. And boy, I fucking

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hate bullies. If there's anything your boy hates, it's bullies.

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And the way that they're trying to bully their way

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through this situation is just absolutely absurd and it's not

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gonna work. And if she's worried about criminal records, maybe

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she should talk to her boss about his criminal record.

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The total baselessness of these accusations is also supported by

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the obvious fact that Joe Biden's Department of Justice knew

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about them for four years and did nothing with them

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because they knew President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong. Levit added, well,

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I guess that's one way to look at it. My

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perspective is Biden's old school, right, the old guard. He

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wasn't gonna light this on fire. He knew what the

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deal was, and how many people that were part of

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the Biden administration had connections to Epstein, A whole fucking lot, right,

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So if anyone thinks that Biden's willing to burn the

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whole house down just to get Trump, you're crazy. Don't

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think that these politicians hate each other as much as

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they make you hate each other. They do not. It

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is all KFA, folks, It's all a big joke to them.

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And Junior Soprano, Biden was never going to release these files.

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He was never going to burn his own people, even

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if that man getting Trump. FBI agents conducted four interviews

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with a woman, but only one memo memorializing an interview

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in July twenty nineteen was available in the DOJ database

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that was made public earlier this year. In that interview,

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the woman alleged that she was repeatedly abused by Epstein

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when she was a miner living in South Carolina. She

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did not make any allegations about Trump in that interview.

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And boy, people have really fallen into the trap making

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it all about Trump, and it's given ammunition to the

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people that want to call this a hoax, just like

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I predicted it would. And then of course we have

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what yesterday, two days ago, the whole entire hush fund

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that is run by Congress in the Senate, which I taught,

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talked about oh, I don't know five years ago here

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on the podcast, and about how our tax dollars are

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being used to cover up all kinds of crazy shit. Well,

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there was a bill that was put forward, and the

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bill would have released all the information about who had

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used that hush fund to pay people off. Well, all

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these people in Congress, a lot of Democrats included, voted no.

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Why would you vote know on that bill? Shouldn't that

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be something that the American people have access to, especially

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right now with the conversation we're having. So if you're

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not serious about that, why should we believe you're serious

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about anything over here? And again, it gives people ammunition

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to say that this is all a hoax and politically driven,

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when of course we know it's not. And if you

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were wondering why I criticize people like Robert Garcia and

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Jasmine Crockett as being wholly unserious, this is it. If

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they were serious about this issue, every single person in

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Congress and Senate would have voted for that hush fund

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to be open to the public. And I don't want

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to go off the rails too much here, but we're

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going to have an episode talking about that hush fund

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once again, because it's absolutely ridiculous. There is no way

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in hell that our tax dollars should ever be involved

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in anything like that. The newly released files cover three

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additional interviews conducted with the woman in August and October

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of twenty nineteen. In the second interview, the woman described

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additional abuse by Epstein and several of his male associates.

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She said that Epstein drove her and or flew her

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to either New York or New Jersey sometimes when she

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was between thirteen and fifteen years old, and she was

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taken to a very tall building. It was there that

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she said, Epstein introduced her to Trump. Trump asked everyone

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to leave the room where they met and mentioned something

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to the effect of, let me teach you how little

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girls are so supposed to be. According to the description

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of the woman's comments in the interview, he then unzipped

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his pants and put her head down to his penis,

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she told the agents, and now, look, I don't know

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if that's true or not, but none of that should

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have been hidden, none of that should have been redacted.

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again my question is Why wasn't it, why was it

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pulled down? And why is it getting extra attention? Is

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it because Donald Trump's name is involved? Well, you're breaking

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the law, and for me, any minor infraction by these

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people at this point needs to be amplified because we're

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not going to get them on the things you think

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we're going to get them on. There is no smoking

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gun here. Show me the smoking gun. I certainly haven't

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seen one. However, there is a ton of circumstantial evidence.

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And that's how you build a case. You don't just

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start off with a small looking gun, right. You have

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to do the legwork. You have to put everything together,

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build a foundation, and then you build the house. And

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that was never done here. And that's the biggest problem.

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There was no investigation from the very beginning, no real investigation,

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and that was all by design. So whoever made those decisions,

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they need to be held accountable. The woman told agents

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that she bit Trump, who then struck her and said

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words to the effect of get this little bitch the

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hell out of here. Later in the interview, the woman

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told agents she heard Trump and Epstein talking about Epstein

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blackmailing people, and also heard Trump talking about washing money

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through casinos. Well, that tracks you think these dudes aren't

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involved in money laundering, Trump and the rest of them,

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I got bad news for you. In the woman's third

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interview with the FBI about three weeks later, agents wrote

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that she described receiving threatening telephone calls from what she

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believed had to do with that or Trump, as well

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as several incidents where she was almost run off the

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road by other cars. During the fourth interview, about two

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months after her last meeting with FBI agents, the woman

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did not have an attorney president unlike the previous meetings.

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She told law enforcement agents she was uncomfortable being recorded

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and asked them what's the point of coming forward with

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allegations after the statute of limitations had likely passed. The

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agents wrote, well, there's no doubt it's an uphill climb.

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Somebody is making these allegations from so long ago. It's

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definitely difficult, right, So I understand her frustration there, And

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of course, when you have these kinds of allegations, especially

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in the environment we were in, people don't take you serious.

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But I think, knowing everything we know now, everything has

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to be looked at, Everything has to be examined, Everything

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must be investigated, including this. The memo noted that the

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the agents encouraged her to go home and take as

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much time as she needed to think about speaking with

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the agents. Further, it's unclear what became of the FBI

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investigation into the woman's claims. An email sent between FBI

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agents last summer and included in the DOJ files note

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that one identified victim claimed abuse by Trump but ultimately

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refused to cooperate, although it doesn't specify if that's the

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same person as the accuser. A lawsuit against the Epstein

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estate includes a victim who made claims about the financier

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pedophile that he had abused her in South Carolina and

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brought her to a gathering in New York City with

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prominent wealthy men that match some of the claims the

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woman made in the FBI interviews. She does not name Trump.

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In the lawsuit, The victim, identified as Jane do four,

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was deemed ineligible to receive compensation by the Epstein Victims

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Compensation Program, a system set up to independently review claims

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by victim. According to a court record from May twenty

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twenty one, it's not clear why she was deemed ineligible,

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well that certainly goes to the favor of Donald Trump. Right,

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Let's be clear, let's be honest, let's call balls and strikes.

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When you have a credibility issue, it's going to be

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a tough cell. Now again, I'm not saying that she's lying.

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I don't know. I'm just giving you the facts, and

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the facts are. It's a tough sell. But you know,

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it's not a tough cell. That there's a cover up

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happening right now. And I know, I know it's not

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as flashy, it's not what everybody wants. But if you

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want some justice, even a little sliver of it, you

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guys got to get on board because once you have

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that kind of investigation started, it opens the door for

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investigators to look at other things. She voluntarily dismissed her

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lawsuit in December of twenty twenty one, and her lawyer

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told The Post and Curry Your newspaper in January that

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she received the financial settlement from the estate. Her lawyer

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declined to comment to CNN last week. The Justice Department

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has not explained why the Trump related witness interviewed descriptions

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were not released, but said in a statement last week

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that it had initiated a review to see whether any

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documents were improperly tagged in the review process. Translation, this

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embarrasses Trump. We better get rid of it. That's what

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it means. If that happened, the Department said it would

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release them. The statement said under the law, the DOJ

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can withhold files that are duplicates, privileged, or part of

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an ongoing federal investigation. The Department has been fiercely criticized

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for its redaction process and has had to repeatedly take

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down documents, editor actions and republish them. Among the most

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egregious issues reported were victims whose identities or photos were

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made public without their knowledge. The Justice Department also republished

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images to the Epstein file library on Wednesday that had

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been temporarily taken down after being flagged for potential nudity.

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There are still several thousand images left to repost, a

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Department official told CNN, which will also be done by Thursday.

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Three months after their release, Justice Department employees are still

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spending several hours a week on the files, fixing reaction

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and posting mistakes. A senior Justice Department official told CNN

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about one percent of the three million documents had issues

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with redactions. The official said, normally in life, getting ninety

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nine percent of things right is pretty good. But that's

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a lot of mistakes. The person said, oh, well, just

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close enough is good enough. I guess right. Then again,

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we are talking about the government, you know, the saying

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well it's good enough for government work. I guess that's

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how this guy lives his life. You know, we were

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almost there. No big deal that there's you know, one

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hundred thousand documents that are screwed up, but we're working

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on it. The Justice Department is not currently investigating any

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individual connected to Jeffrey Epstein, a senior Justice Department official

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said on Thursday, of course not. Why would they. They

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don't give a shit about this. They don't care, None

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of them do. At this point, without any new information,

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the official does not expect anyone will be charged in

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connection with Epstein. It's time for state investigators to get

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into motion, especially in New York. All that big talk

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from the Democrats in New York, no action. I mean,

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are you just gonna talk or you're gonna do something.

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Trump previously directed the Department to open an investigation into

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Epstein's ties to prominent Democrats. That investigation was opened under

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Manhattan US Attorney Jay Clayton, but has not resulted in

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any new cases. Okay, so no investigations. Great, one less

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excuse for holding files back. Give us everything, because you're

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not investigating anybody, so you can't use that as an excuse.

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So what is it? National security? Probably considering Jeffrey Epstein,

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at least in some capacity, was working for the United

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States government, makes sense that they wouldn't want those files released, right,

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and it certainly tracks with them not wanting to investigate

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this any further. But here's the problem for them. No

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matter how many wars they start, no matter how many

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distractions they try and throw up in our path, it's

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not gonna work because the more you tell us to

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move on, the more we dig in. All right, folks,

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