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Speaker 4: Hello everyone, Welcome to episode sixty nine. Get your mind
Speaker 4: out of the gether of the Evolve Effect. I am
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Speaker 5: Thanks, uh you guys are letting us be the number
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Speaker 5: today and once again Shauna, Hello and welcome back.
Speaker 2: You weren't gone, but welcome she was.
Speaker 5: Today, Ladies and gentlemen, this has been the most craziest
Speaker 5: episode ever because something that eod has been saying on
Speaker 5: the main channel, check us out on p DO you're
Speaker 5: wrestling for months, months since December. But we'll talk about
Speaker 5: that a little later. Now, let's talk about the de
Speaker 5: evolve rate once again, and that's the stuff that happens
Speaker 5: and evolve before evolve. On NXT yesterday, almost everybody was
Speaker 5: thriving from Evolve. Leila Diggs was being chastised by Nikita,
Speaker 5: which might turn into a baby face to her. Uh
Speaker 5: Keno Carver was camp carvering arounds and Braxton Cole got missed.
Speaker 2: It in the face by Nanaku, So you do your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that.
Speaker 4: It's still wild to me that Praxic Cole keeps talking
Speaker 4: about how rich he is and everything, but yet he's
Speaker 4: a moonlighting is NXT security. That's just it's just funny
Speaker 4: to me and Laila. Hopefully she gets well soon. She's
Speaker 4: in a sling, so it looks like maybe it's not
Speaker 4: a bad injury because he's just just in a regular sling,
Speaker 4: no break, no cast or anything.
Speaker 3: So hopefully it's just a tweak.
Speaker 4: Because she could during a North American Championship match on Tuesday.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was almost not eventful. But the fact
Speaker 4: that we see him on TV on the NXT.
Speaker 3: He was a good thing.
Speaker 6: So sh okay Shauna, Yeah I was. I laughed that
Speaker 6: Braxton was the one that got missed. I had to
Speaker 6: laugh at that. I also love the fact that Narak
Speaker 6: who's miss is red.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, so I'm happy to see that he has
Speaker 6: he has a red myss. He was excited to see that.
Speaker 6: I did like the fact, you know, I'm sad for
Speaker 6: Laila Speedy recovery hope all is well.
Speaker 7: I know she was posting some like.
Speaker 6: Workout videos today, so speedy recovery to her. But I
Speaker 6: did like the fact that Nikita was in the Fatal
Speaker 6: four way that she got thrown in there because it
Speaker 6: was like, who's it going to be from Natty's group
Speaker 6: that was in there. Is nice to see Nikita uh
Speaker 6: showing off that Evolved championship and why she's the champion
Speaker 6: in there so excited. As I said last week on
Speaker 6: a post, I was like, hey, look, this is like
Speaker 6: you need to start watching Evolve because all these NXT
Speaker 6: people that you see and they're all this stuff are
Speaker 6: evolved either fully up there or still doing that part time.
Speaker 6: Even so, Tristan had a little promo of course on the.
Speaker 7: Show as well.
Speaker 6: So if people aren't watching The Vault and you're wondering
Speaker 6: who these people are, well start watching Evolve and learn
Speaker 6: who they are.
Speaker 5: Yes, please do, because guess what all these players are.
Speaker 5: You're like, oh wow, I shout out to hear these thoughts,
Speaker 5: and he sent me the video of people crapping on
Speaker 5: the Mob Squad. They don't understand who they are, they
Speaker 5: don't understand what they are. But if you don't understand
Speaker 5: the product exactly, Diyna Mike. Now listen, gentlemen, this episode.
Speaker 5: I've watched this episode three times. I'm probably gonn watch
Speaker 5: it one more time. Before the main live at nine o'clock,
Speaker 5: they gave you hints that Harlem was gonna win the beginning.
Speaker 2: Of the show.
Speaker 5: Now let's start off the show with them. But before
Speaker 5: that we had an intro from Robert Stone. Still no
Speaker 5: word from Peter Rosenberg. We are most likely are going
Speaker 5: to get Robert Stone for these next two sets of tapings,
Speaker 5: so we're good for the next two months. Hey, excuse me,
Speaker 5: but the when he was talking about a championship is
Speaker 5: very different.
Speaker 2: It means something to the person.
Speaker 5: It's it's on it's their way for a shot to
Speaker 5: go to Raw SmackDown WrestleMania. Harlem Lewis emphasizes that I
Speaker 5: came from nothing and this I'm gonna show you guys this.
Speaker 5: Aaron Rourke emphasizes that you know, I'm I'm I'm glamour,
Speaker 5: but I'm grit. I I am a diamond under the
Speaker 5: pressure eld your thoughts on this on this vignette of
Speaker 5: the intro.
Speaker 2: But with all these implications, sir.
Speaker 3: I think the promo was really good.
Speaker 4: It really, I think really for the I don't want
Speaker 4: to say for the first time, but it really felt
Speaker 4: like they really emphasized how important the Evolved Championship is
Speaker 4: not just for Evolve but where it can actually take
Speaker 4: you into the future. So I did like that that.
Speaker 4: I do like the glamor and grit line. That's like,
Speaker 4: I think that should be like one of his taglines now.
Speaker 4: I really like the fact that he keeps saying that,
Speaker 4: and Harlem explained to why he won. I don't know
Speaker 4: if this like I get it, but maybe it's just
Speaker 4: his delivery of it for some reason.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like it was a it was a
Speaker 4: decent promo, but I just thought, I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: just like missing something and everything. I think maybe because
Speaker 4: they kept harping on his background like so much. Maybe
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe that's what it is to take
Speaker 4: someone the luster out of it.
Speaker 3: But it was fine and everything.
Speaker 4: The overall promo was really good though, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so that's what I'm gonna say about that without spoilers.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 7: Alrighty, so yeah, so I liked this really well.
Speaker 6: I was not thinking that, you know, no spoilers of
Speaker 6: what happened later was going to happen.
Speaker 7: But I really like this.
Speaker 6: I really liked this build between Harlem and Aaron over
Speaker 6: last week their promo that they had the coming to
Speaker 6: the agreement for the match and this one, I thought,
Speaker 6: it's been done very well. It wasn't hey you owe
Speaker 6: me a match, Hey it's chaos, let me get a match.
Speaker 7: It's been done very well to really build.
Speaker 6: The storyline with them, and honestly, depending on you know,
Speaker 6: I'll talk about this maybe a little later, but this
Speaker 6: makes me think that this might have been a thank
Speaker 6: you tipping my hat see it on the see you
Speaker 6: on Tuesdays for one of the players on that the
Speaker 6: way this went now looking back at it after what happened,
Speaker 6: but I think it was really good and I hope
Speaker 6: now that Harlem we're through this. We've had that gentleman agreement,
Speaker 6: so hopefully i'll talk about it later. I'm gonna spoil
Speaker 6: myself if I keep talking about my thoughts here, so
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 7: I'm going to stop.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. I'm excted. I'm completely It's it's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to not spoil things. Lady and gentlemen. The
Speaker 2: title of this evolve effect once you see to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it makes sense. But now we start with the.
Speaker 5: And we start off the show, we've chat Starboy Hall,
Speaker 5: we get, we do get and we do find out
Speaker 5: that Robert Stone is there still there for a commentary.
Speaker 2: We get chest Starboy Hall comes out Robert Stone like.
Speaker 2: Blake's like, what do you thought of Star Wars Hall?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I had him once on NXT and he wasn't in
Speaker 5: DNA like he's a star boy, but I'm more like
Speaker 5: Satin and I don't really I don't go down like that.
Speaker 5: He's like, well, you know when the dad like gotta
Speaker 5: respected them dragon when they go to Max Abrams. Now,
Speaker 5: Max and I hope you hear this. You had cheetah fingers.
Speaker 5: What you call cheatah fingers. It's the type of fingers
Speaker 5: that when you just did the self tanning and you
Speaker 5: kind of left it on your fingers because everything else
Speaker 5: was perfectly non tans except for his damn cheatah fingers.
Speaker 3: My J CJ.
Speaker 5: Vallad was there with his nice little red jersey and Santy.
Speaker 5: I don't think you even had it, don't. I didn't
Speaker 5: notice yet. I try not to see Santy's face because
Speaker 5: he's usually shirtless. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna not think
Speaker 5: about Santi. So they're like, Max Abrams says, okay, I
Speaker 5: got you guys a a appointment for the wellness retreat.
Speaker 2: You guys, enjoy yourself. CJ. Vallad knows what's up, Like
Speaker 2: this guy's not gonna mall us like the Margers mall.
Speaker 5: And then I loved that he shimmied before the music
Speaker 5: even started, just like.
Speaker 2: Befited. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god. The
Speaker 2: cocaine is a hell of a drug for Max. And
Speaker 2: then we walk on in Max does not have the
Speaker 2: tearway pants.
Speaker 5: Robert Stone does say that I'm kind of glad he
Speaker 5: stopped using the tearway pants because I didn't not want
Speaker 5: to see that, so I respect that.
Speaker 3: But he did.
Speaker 2: He did go to the top rope and kind of
Speaker 2: motions for it and then jumped anyway. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's fine, all right. This match was two commercials long.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen did not expect that.
Speaker 5: About eight minutes, Max Abrams got legit kicked in the
Speaker 5: face three. I'm really happy about that, Max. Max kept
Speaker 5: trying to go back and forth. No one interfered until
Speaker 5: the end of the match. At the end of the match,
Speaker 5: the Maxquak came out of nowhere. Mister Starboy was trying
Speaker 5: to distract him. One point, Oh came out to help.
Speaker 5: H uh, Starboy. Starboard did a sask special and then
Speaker 5: he went and then he went uh. Then he threw
Speaker 5: Max Abrams inside the ring. As this is happening, Cappuccino
Speaker 5: Jones or dark Ross Jones, if you're nasty, punches Starboy
Speaker 5: right in the face by accident, by accident, but still
Speaker 5: questionably by accident.
Speaker 2: We'll see how coach says this tonight, because you know
Speaker 2: how coaches.
Speaker 5: He's said, I'm sorry sorry. Max pulls them back in
Speaker 5: rough Rider. For the one two three, all Mog Squad
Speaker 5: are standing, Diyna, Mike poses, and Cappuccino is looking at
Speaker 5: Starboy like my bad and star Wars like I'm going
Speaker 5: to fuck you up. I just came back from the
Speaker 5: Demon hell.
Speaker 2: Shata.
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on the match and the fact that Max
Speaker 5: finally got his revenge because Starboy did beat c J.
Speaker 2: Doller, so you got you got to get back.
Speaker 6: So I liked the red herring at the beginning that
Speaker 6: the Mog Squad is not going to be there because
Speaker 6: he was sitting on these retreats.
Speaker 7: And you're like, oh, he's sending them way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're still going to show up, but the question
Speaker 6: is now going to be when we know they're not
Speaker 6: going to go get these SPA treatments. I feel like
Speaker 6: Stone's commentary on Starboy just could have been a little
Speaker 6: bit He's been on your program.
Speaker 7: He's been all over the place. Why are you, like even.
Speaker 6: Last week when he's like, oh, I haven't been paying
Speaker 6: attention to the program, It's kind of like, dude, what
Speaker 6: are you doing?
Speaker 7: Like, what are you doing like right now? As a
Speaker 7: GM that just kind of threw me off.
Speaker 6: I enjoyed the match, I kind of figured Max was
Speaker 6: going to win because of the two losses last week.
Speaker 7: They couldn't all.
Speaker 6: Of a sudden have the bog squad, you know, trying
Speaker 6: to rough rider over everybody, and then all of a
Speaker 6: sudden loose three in a row.
Speaker 7: So I was like, it's gonna win.
Speaker 6: I knew the interference like when that happened, and then
Speaker 6: once Cap hit Starboy, I was like, oh, that's we
Speaker 6: got a storyline there.
Speaker 7: So I think it's going to be really interesting to
Speaker 7: have that conflict.
Speaker 6: You get two baby faces now all of a sudden
Speaker 6: upset at each other over you know, at accidents. I
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be fun to see how that plays out.
Speaker 7: So but I enjoyed the match. I really like Starboy.
Speaker 7: I want to see more from him.
Speaker 6: Plus it was also fun to see his match because
Speaker 6: and they did have in the in the calm, in
Speaker 6: the quick hits thing as I like to call it.
Speaker 6: Knowing that Max did win the I D Championship, and
Speaker 6: of course he did win it off as Starboy, so
Speaker 6: it was nice to see the I D Championship you know,
Speaker 6: kind of nodded to. So it was fun to see
Speaker 6: that match, and I really wish I could have seen
Speaker 6: the actual match to see how well they compared from
Speaker 6: the Nightmare Factory when the title switched.
Speaker 2: This is not for you guys who are listening. This
Speaker 2: is for Shana.
Speaker 5: I will send you the link. They actually put the
Speaker 5: full match on your phone. All that Laney versus Laney
Speaker 5: versus Sloan and you saw that, right, I think that
Speaker 5: was a match.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, because I until I just got a new phone,
Speaker 6: so I actually have memory on my phone now, so
Speaker 6: now I can download. So I'm like, so now I
Speaker 6: can actually get things, because before I had not enough
Speaker 6: memory to put it on there to get like graphics
Speaker 6: and stuff.
Speaker 7: So now I'm definitely gonna put it on my phone.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, it's on the w W I D Twitter page.
Speaker 5: It's like they're just like every week they kind of
Speaker 5: put it out there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's that d. Your thoughts on the match,
Speaker 2: and Max Abrams got his mock back.
Speaker 3: Well, I really well, before I get to the match,
Speaker 3: I liked what Evolve was doing.
Speaker 4: Their trying new things, like I like the oh, we're
Speaker 4: gonna have the camera on them right before they go
Speaker 4: through the curtain because they do it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes on raw. So yeah, I kind of liked the
Speaker 3: fact they did that. It was like kind of cool.
Speaker 4: At first, I wasn't sure if they did it as
Speaker 4: a tape and then you know, cut to the actual entrance.
Speaker 4: At first I wasn't sure, but I think they probably
Speaker 4: they probably did it that way, and like, but that
Speaker 4: was pretty cool. I don't The match was really good
Speaker 4: like Star Wars and yeah, you're right, it was surprisingly
Speaker 4: longer than I thought it would be.
Speaker 3: It's because it's evolved and it's like a non championship match,
Speaker 3: so but it was really good. I do like the
Speaker 3: fact that, well, we all knew the.
Speaker 4: MOX squad is gonna show up anyways like that, Like
Speaker 4: Seana was saying, yeah, you're gonna go to this from
Speaker 4: like but you're saying it right there behind the curtain.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna leave like right now to go do that.
Speaker 4: You're gonna wait until after the after the show at
Speaker 4: the very least, or even after the match to go
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 3: They really didn't interfere too much. I thought it was cooled.
Speaker 4: Then I D one point zero showed up and uh,
Speaker 4: as I was saying in my live stream, the capturing
Speaker 4: and jumped the velveteen Dream vibes because he's still got
Speaker 4: the new gear, the new look, new look cappuccino. And
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give him the benefit of doubt because Santy
Speaker 4: Rivera was there and.
Speaker 3: He was it looked like he was trying to hit
Speaker 3: Santy and he went and he kind of ducked or
Speaker 3: fell down. So the punch went to Starboy. But maybe
Speaker 3: he didn't care who he hit. Who knows. Uh, But
Speaker 3: I'll give him the benefit of doubt for that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the right person won because you
Speaker 4: had the whole Mox squad lost last week, so but
Speaker 4: Max couldn't lose and everything. You can't have the whole thing,
Speaker 4: especially the leader go down and everything. And I might
Speaker 4: have to that too, because I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I might be an unofficial member of the
Speaker 3: Monk Squad now, I don't know. I did get to
Speaker 3: hold the ID Championship.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I never held any championship belt before,
Speaker 4: but that was a real one and it was Uh.
Speaker 4: ID championship is surprisingly heavy, I don't know. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: about like ten to fifteen pounds, I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, But overall it was a good match for
Speaker 3: those who don't know when to breakfast.
Speaker 4: I did get to see the half of the MOX
Speaker 4: squad at a CCW event over the weekend, so check
Speaker 4: out my Instagram page you'll see the pictures. But yeah,
Speaker 4: but this was a good match, A good way to
Speaker 4: start off the show too, because I wasn't even surprised
Speaker 4: and even started off the show. I think maybe it
Speaker 4: might have been like the second to last match or whatever.
Speaker 4: But yeah, they start off the show pretty hot.
Speaker 6: I did after when they announced what was happening, I
Speaker 6: thought it was going to be the middle match.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, okay, now, sorry about that, lady and gentlemen.
Speaker 5: This is I'm gonna say about this. I'm happy. I
Speaker 5: am happy for Max to win. I am let's not
Speaker 5: get it twisted.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 5: I am super happy that he won. I don't like
Speaker 5: it that starboy has a fifty to fifty booking now.
Speaker 5: But he wins one loose one win, one loses one.
Speaker 5: Mind you, if he's anywhere else, he wins. And also
Speaker 5: to bring up Shama's point, yes they bring they did
Speaker 5: bring up the ID Championship.
Speaker 2: Yes, they did bring up that Max won the ID Championship. No,
Speaker 2: they never said who took it off them? Oh, who
Speaker 2: did Starboy lose it to Max? No, they never said
Speaker 2: it in commentary once. I was really pissed about that.
Speaker 2: Say it once, Hey Max on ID program, what you
Speaker 2: guys are doing two months of tapings?
Speaker 5: You could say it on the first episode or the
Speaker 5: second episode of the tapings and you'll be fine.
Speaker 6: Well, even if they do like a voiceover be like hey,
Speaker 6: come in real quick, you know, like you got him
Speaker 6: in their ears, So they could easily be like, hey,
Speaker 6: right here, we need you to pause, and then we're
Speaker 6: gonna because we're gonna have you ad lib in afterwards.
Speaker 7: It's taped, they're there.
Speaker 6: They can easily go into a studio and be like,
Speaker 6: all right, after you say this, we need about a
Speaker 6: forty five second pause when both of you guys, Okay, now,
Speaker 6: when next time you come in, we need you to
Speaker 6: record this and then edit it into that moment.
Speaker 7: Could easily be done.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, when you were talking about the
Speaker 4: commentary it's about Starboy, it felt almost to the point like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna just say this now because we don't actually
Speaker 4: know what's happening, like passes or maybe they do know
Speaker 4: a little bits ofthing happened, and they don't want to
Speaker 4: like trip on each other's and the continuity toes because
Speaker 4: that will definitely come into play on our next mess up.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about later on. Where I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they were like tripping. I'm like, really, it's like you
Speaker 4: got Triple A. Corey Graves and jbl are not really
Speaker 4: down there. I'm just telling you now, they're not really
Speaker 4: down there. They do their line.
Speaker 2: Yeah they're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So either they do it before because sometimes they're
Speaker 3: take delay. Sometimes it's live, yeah, Triple A.
Speaker 2: So I get that people are like, oh, well, why
Speaker 2: can't we see them? They're not there. That's fine, You're fine,
Speaker 2: They're fine. That's true. People love why can't we see
Speaker 2: the commentry? They're not there. It's pre taped sometimes they
Speaker 2: do it. It evolved too. You can hear when they kind.
Speaker 5: Of post tape stuff on top of it, because you
Speaker 5: could like, oh wow, you hear the crowd where they're talking.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's a really quiet.
Speaker 5: Ass room when he's talking, so weird reason Okay, sure, okay, okay,
Speaker 5: all right, okay, here we go cap after apparently this happened,
Speaker 5: I remember this, but apparently after yeah, after Cap went
Speaker 5: to apologies Starboy, but Starboys Sheldon and Marcus Holloway separated
Speaker 5: and so they wouldn't fights. Yeah, backstage, backstage, Thatcher wished
Speaker 5: Harlem Lewis good luck tonight.
Speaker 2: He's like, all right, that's good. We'll we'll combine them both.
Speaker 2: I love that you saw. We'll talk about this real quick.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 5: When Forem and Thatcher talked to Harlem, he said it like, hey,
Speaker 5: good luck, you know, you'll do great. But when he
Speaker 5: talked to another Ruster, it was more of a concern
Speaker 5: than a like good luck. Let's talk about that a
Speaker 5: little later. But you know, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 5: Thatcher coming up to and even have to do this.
Speaker 5: I've never I've never met a GM who comes up
Speaker 5: to the guys for the main event like, hey, we
Speaker 5: have a good made event.
Speaker 2: All of us doesn't do that ship. The other guy
Speaker 2: doesn't do that ship.
Speaker 3: So your thoughts, yeah, this, yeah, this was that was fine.
Speaker 4: But that's all I gotta say about that, because but
Speaker 4: I really want to talk about is the backstge stuff
Speaker 4: with the rest of the gods there, because star.
Speaker 3: Boy did not forget that.
Speaker 4: What did was like, yeah, they're kind of like because
Speaker 4: everybody was like kind of like kind of cheering on
Speaker 4: harm lewis on and everything because he is he has
Speaker 4: one point oh for people.
Speaker 3: That forget he's won the ogs, so that made sense.
Speaker 3: But like Starboy and.
Speaker 4: Star Boys not letting the Cappuccino off the hook that quickly,
Speaker 4: So I did kind of like that and everything, and
Speaker 4: with Cappuccino's new look and on social media, his new attitude,
Speaker 4: Seana said earlier, face versus face, I'm not so sure
Speaker 4: it's like face versus soon to not be faced is
Speaker 4: what it kind of looked like to me. And I
Speaker 4: think we're getting a slow burn for that on TV now,
Speaker 4: So now we're I think we're going to get that
Speaker 4: Dark Rose shows that we've been talking about forever.
Speaker 3: Because.
Speaker 6: Okay, it does feel like thinking about that, Like I
Speaker 6: think it was one of the matches I watched, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, I don't remember which one one of the
Speaker 6: indie promos they were on streaming and I watched part
Speaker 6: of it and it really looked like Cap was playing
Speaker 6: heel like in the match, like Cap was very heal
Speaker 6: through that match and it wasn't anything crazy, And I
Speaker 6: can't remember what promo was, but he had very heelish
Speaker 6: tendencies in that match, so it'll be interesting.
Speaker 7: And I can't remember which one it was, but yeah,
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Now since EOD kind of like didn't spoil it, but
Speaker 5: let's combine them together. Thatcher also talked to Aaron Rourke
Speaker 5: and this is after you said Cappuccino punched Starboy. And
Speaker 5: when I was watching this, I'm like, did Gabe Sippolski
Speaker 5: once again fuck up on the timeline?
Speaker 2: Shit again? Like oh no, here we go?
Speaker 5: And it was all washed away when when star Boys said, hey,
Speaker 5: hey man, you punched me and them?
Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: Gabe listened, there's a timeline fixed. Yeah, but I did
Speaker 2: like when.
Speaker 5: He did tell Aaron like, hey, good luck in your match.
Speaker 5: He's pretty tough, so you know, oh, you know, I
Speaker 5: always passed with Flying Colors. Then Cappuccino said the thing
Speaker 5: about Starboy. Then capitold Thatcher like, hey, how about me
Speaker 5: and Marcus go against the.
Speaker 2: Top flight Security Craig.
Speaker 5: That's not the name, we call him that, And I
Speaker 5: love Thatcher's like, okay, he said, look, I don't want
Speaker 5: to reward those two guys for fucking.
Speaker 2: Shit up and like not listening. Do you guys really
Speaker 2: want that? Are you really sure? Are you really? Are
Speaker 2: you guys sure? All right, I'll get it sorted. All right,
Speaker 2: I'll get it sorted. I'll get it sorted. I'll get
Speaker 2: it sorted. And he right away.
Speaker 5: So now combining, you do your thoughts on both combos.
Speaker 5: And also he does not want to talk to that
Speaker 5: tag team at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it was really good that they did it
Speaker 4: this way because obviously, yeah, we know they're a tag
Speaker 4: team and everything, but how we're gonna go from hey,
Speaker 4: I don't y'all, y'all fired, I don't want you around
Speaker 4: here to hey, we're gonna actually have a match, and
Speaker 4: this is a good way of doing like I don't
Speaker 4: want to do it. But basically one point zero was like, no,
Speaker 4: we want we want to put hands on these guys.
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know. It's like, okay, I'll figure
Speaker 4: something out and everything. So I did like that sometimes
Speaker 4: just an explanation kind of like o.
Speaker 3: A Femi on Monday Night Raw about the King of
Speaker 3: the Ring.
Speaker 4: Just tell me something, even if it does not make sense,
Speaker 4: Just let me know something so at least I'm like, Okay, well,
Speaker 4: this is why it's happening and stuff. So so I'm
Speaker 4: glad that they kind of got that out of the way,
Speaker 4: kind of my throw my box and cole theory out
Speaker 4: the window though still doesn't do that. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: glad they addressed it. And so it's like, going forward,
Speaker 4: it's gonna make sense.
Speaker 5: So uh, seanna your thoughts on both segments, Harlem, And
Speaker 5: and now we have a tag team next week of
Speaker 5: the Top Flight Security versus Marcus and the Cappuccino.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so on the tag team thing, I'm kind of
Speaker 6: like me on it still because I really did not
Speaker 6: want matches set for them. I wanted them just to
Speaker 6: come in cause chaos and the matches happen like organically
Speaker 6: or something or them started like do one of those
Speaker 6: segments where they're out in the parking lot doing something
Speaker 6: and it carries in, they end up in the ring,
Speaker 6: the match happens, you know, let's get a rough out here,
Speaker 6: Like that's kind of what I wanted at first, because
Speaker 6: I do feel like they're rewarding the thatchers rewarding them,
Speaker 6: And I also don't know why he was like and
Speaker 6: I fired them, I'm not giving him a match, So
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be fun to see how that
Speaker 6: plays out with those But I'm really interested to see
Speaker 6: how everything in the Harlem thing like that was very foreshadowing.
Speaker 7: That was very foreshadowing, and I was like, I, you've
Speaker 7: only really ever seen it.
Speaker 6: Like, the only thing I can think of like a
Speaker 6: GM coming up to someone was recently was with aj
Speaker 6: Styles when he had that one match and all this
Speaker 6: was like are you sure you want to do this?
Speaker 7: Are you sure you want to do this?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: Like, are we sure you're going to put your career
Speaker 7: on the line?
Speaker 6: Is kind of what it The only time I can
Speaker 6: think recently that we've seen a GM be like hey, pause,
Speaker 6: are we sure you know?
Speaker 3: On a match?
Speaker 6: But I think was really good and I think it
Speaker 6: really adds to that with the Evolved Championship that it
Speaker 6: means something to not just be like, oh, here's the
Speaker 6: match and go. And I think it gives Thatcher a
Speaker 6: different character as the foreman more than a general manager
Speaker 6: because he's technically that player coach. So I think that
Speaker 6: elevates his character a little bit more that he still
Speaker 6: has concerns because he's a player coach foreman and not
Speaker 6: just like the general manager.
Speaker 3: So I do like that.
Speaker 6: But I think it's going to be interesting to see
Speaker 6: how this kerfuffle with Cap and Starboy plays out, because
Speaker 6: you know, it was a flat out accident, and is
Speaker 6: Cappuccino gonna get star Boy to understand that or a
Speaker 6: starboy just going to still be human?
Speaker 7: You know that he got hit. So I'm really excited
Speaker 7: to see how that park plays out.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, you do your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, say, especially with Cap when but I'll go back
Speaker 4: and because I forgot the saying about.
Speaker 3: The Aaron Wark part of it. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 3: little It was a little weird.
Speaker 4: Because if I'm not if I remember the order right
Speaker 4: for some reason that I remember like it was work.
Speaker 4: Then they went backstage later and talked to harm to
Speaker 4: Harmon Lewis. I think that's how it happened, or that's.
Speaker 3: How I remember in my head.
Speaker 2: No, it was it was it was Harlem first and
Speaker 2: then it was Aaron.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know why this is in my head.
Speaker 3: I remember it, and it just it wasn't the exact
Speaker 3: same praise. That's the thing that I that was weird about.
Speaker 3: It was more like more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like good luck. But I'm like you were saying,
Speaker 4: but I'm concerned and oh, he's a tough guy. You
Speaker 4: didn't say that the I mean, Aaron Urke was over
Speaker 4: here defending his titles like multiple times over the past
Speaker 4: like month and a half, but you would say, hey,
Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, he's a pretty tough guy and
Speaker 4: everything you've seen it happen. You know, he's actually even
Speaker 4: had a match against him before, even tho it as
Speaker 4: a triple threat. But yeah, so it was like a
Speaker 4: little it was a little weird and everything, but it
Speaker 4: is what it was.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. He did. He did think or.
Speaker 4: Wish to both good luck, which was good at the
Speaker 4: very end. Just the way he did it was a
Speaker 4: little bit different. It almost looked like he was.
Speaker 3: Kind of like rooting for one more over the other
Speaker 3: kind of situation thing.
Speaker 4: That's what it kind of felt like, the way he
Speaker 4: kind of was like with good luck with Harle Lewis,
Speaker 4: And I don't know, that's just me.
Speaker 3: That's just the vibe I got off of it. But
Speaker 3: it was fine, and I hope he now again later.
Speaker 5: So yes, now the piggyback we have to remember since
Speaker 5: we are the game keepers of evolved in terms of history,
Speaker 5: Thatcher did ty just remember this, Thatcher a while ago
Speaker 5: did tell Harlean Lewis, I know you want a shot
Speaker 5: at the at the champion, but you're not ready.
Speaker 2: You're not deserving of it yet. And that was before.
Speaker 5: That was right after he was supposed to get a
Speaker 5: championship opportunity and then the whole h saved by the
Speaker 5: Bell shit happened, and then the backs and cold thing happens.
Speaker 2: So at that point when Thatcher told him to his
Speaker 2: face a.
Speaker 5: Long time ago, I know you want it, but you
Speaker 5: don't really deserve it right now, and I think and
Speaker 5: he said that to him. So that was also foreshadowing
Speaker 5: for months in advance people who don't know how to
Speaker 5: book NXT. But after that we had a short nil sequence. Oh,
Speaker 5: make sure's in your city. You'll find someone like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we get it. You've been doing this for a while.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 5: What I do want to talk about is something that
Speaker 5: after even three times watching this, I didn't hear this
Speaker 5: until shout out to Progress for Wrestling dot Net, my
Speaker 5: favorite source for results. Sloane Jacobs is in the back
Speaker 5: with Nikita ni Kat, Kitarell and She's telling her to Sloan,
Speaker 5: what kind of ship was that last week? Like there was,
Speaker 5: there was no VIPs. Everybody wanted to attack me.
Speaker 3: What the hell is that?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 2: You kind of did.
Speaker 5: But she told her like, look, Lady Luck is all
Speaker 5: mad because I messed up. She like, I messed up
Speaker 5: her opportunity with Wendy Choo. All right, go tell go
Speaker 5: find thatcher and tell him that I want to match
Speaker 5: with Lady Luck. The stars have the lines Lady Love
Speaker 5: versus Nikita next week. First off, why aren't you a booker,
Speaker 5: Wendy not Wendy Nikita. Okay, that's pretty cool. But the
Speaker 5: last thing that she said before Sloan left, Slone said,
Speaker 5: I wonder where Wendy ch is. Nikita says who kiss Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then says, now I'm going to watch the Veronica
Speaker 5: Aiden versus Landa Diggs match right there. Cut it off
Speaker 5: your thoughts, Shanna, and the fact that they brought up
Speaker 5: Wendy you themselves.
Speaker 7: I really liked it.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to start to show with some
Speaker 6: kind of discourse between Sloan and Nikita, because you know
Speaker 6: it's coming at some point it's going to come.
Speaker 7: And I think this was a good part of it.
Speaker 6: I thought it was weird that Nikita would want to
Speaker 6: have Laney right off the bat, instead of being like, no,
Speaker 6: she's got to wait her turn.
Speaker 7: I want nothing.
Speaker 6: You know, she attacked me, she's not getting a shot.
Speaker 6: So for Nikita to be like, yeah, let her have
Speaker 6: a shot, I thought was strange. But yeah, I'm mentioning,
Speaker 6: Wendy's going to be kind of interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 6: when we see her again, when she comes back, if
Speaker 6: we'll see her.
Speaker 7: On NXT, you know, with Nikita there too.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so kind of interesting. But I think this
Speaker 6: was just more of the chipping away of the Sloan Nikita.
Speaker 7: Drama.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree to.
Speaker 4: When I started this, I'm still thinking, Sloan, I don't
Speaker 4: know if I think you kind of set Nikita up.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, because you this is the person
Speaker 4: that you know, it gets the whoever whoever is gonna
Speaker 4: go up against the Kida. You would have to if
Speaker 4: you want that championship, you have to beat one of
Speaker 4: these random variables or whatever. But so it's like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, because it did kind of like no VIPs
Speaker 4: that everybody came to challenge her, but Nikita Nikita was
Speaker 4: straight dogging this lady out.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was just so hilarious to me.
Speaker 4: Every time Sloane said something, she had something slick to
Speaker 4: say to Sloan singing at her multiple times that that
Speaker 4: was insane, and then she's like, get up, and I do.
Speaker 4: I actually do like the fact that the Lady luck
Speaker 4: think is not the way I thought it was gonna
Speaker 4: go down, because it never goes down this way, especially
Speaker 4: with a hill champion. And she's like, nah, no, bring
Speaker 4: it to me, No, I want her and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in fact, she get a championship.
Speaker 3: Match next week. Now. The only thing I can say
Speaker 3: about that is she does have championship advantage, so just
Speaker 3: because she gets her in the ring doesn't messing me.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe we might not actually even have the match,
Speaker 4: maybe just the wait for her to get her so
Speaker 4: she could beat her down because she could get disqualified
Speaker 4: without losing the title stuff like that. So I want
Speaker 4: to gonna actually have an actual match. But I do
Speaker 4: call it the fact that she's just man. She got
Speaker 4: thrown to a table. It's like, yeah, bring her to me,
Speaker 4: and I want her. In fact, let me swoot in
Speaker 4: the pot, let's get her championship match, which throws everything
Speaker 4: off my whole logic of whatever I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: Lady luck is the end game, like.
Speaker 4: No, we're gonna have her like next week all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, we're gonna have the the Bruce Leie thing
Speaker 4: and going through the going up the tower. Everybody's gonna
Speaker 4: have to before we get to Nikita. But no, so
Speaker 4: it should be interesting. But I'm not even gonna predict.
Speaker 3: It right now.
Speaker 2: We all know, well, don't do that. We all don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 4: About ninety seven percent sure the key is gonna walk
Speaker 4: out next week with.
Speaker 2: That championship ninety Okay, that's a good number, exactly. That's
Speaker 2: lower than that, that's the lower than the effective rate
Speaker 2: of a condom. So I'll give you that about one percent. Nice.
Speaker 2: My thoughts on this is that it's it's it's making
Speaker 2: me okay for some weird reason. And I have to
Speaker 2: use a quote from Nikita.
Speaker 5: The stars are aligning, it feels, and I don't know why,
Speaker 5: but it feels that Layla is gonna be the next up.
Speaker 5: I don't know why because for someone reason, why is
Speaker 5: she still evolved? Why is she we'll talk about her
Speaker 5: a little later. But in all these things happening, then
Speaker 5: on top of that, you brought up Wendy.
Speaker 2: Why did you bring up Wendy?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Like when he's supposed to be gone.
Speaker 5: But if it's gonna be like as as Eob said,
Speaker 5: it like a tower of like like every level of
Speaker 5: a new Mond, like a new opponent, it makes sense
Speaker 5: for Wendy to come back to Hey, I won a
Speaker 5: championship rematch.
Speaker 2: I mean I never got it. And that's just like
Speaker 2: well sense. No, She's right, she never got a rematch.
Speaker 5: And she and that could be Wendy's final evolution, and
Speaker 5: then she finally goes to NXT, which I hope that happens.
Speaker 5: But with this happening with Lady, I am ninety four
Speaker 5: percent sure that Lady's gonna lose.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say a hundred.
Speaker 5: This week, lady and gentlemen, Gabe listened to us and say,
Speaker 5: you know what, you know what mister involved with PuF,
Speaker 5: I got you motherfucker's oh my beer, I got you,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 2: But that's all I gotta say about that. That's all
Speaker 2: I got to say about that.
Speaker 5: We move into the match with Veronica Haven versus Layla Diggs.
Speaker 5: Laila Diggs comes out by herself. Now it just seems
Speaker 5: really weird with she has the music now, but it's
Speaker 5: like you have a ghost dancing next to you.
Speaker 2: And I just I can't unsee it. It's really weird,
Speaker 2: you know, right, You're.
Speaker 5: Like mas is right next to you. What she comes
Speaker 5: in and Stone praises her. Oh, she's evolved.
Speaker 2: She's in the group.
Speaker 5: When she's in the group of Natty never said Natty
Speaker 5: and Nikita just said Natty. And then she comes in
Speaker 5: Veronica Haven. I guess the reason that that Libra Valkyria
Speaker 5: looks like ship now because Vaal and Henley beat the
Speaker 5: ship out of her and took her wings.
Speaker 2: Is coming out with Libra wings and it looks cool.
Speaker 5: It bends down, it bends down with her and everything
Speaker 5: as it like, it really looks lifelike.
Speaker 2: It's really freaking cool. Ronicahaven versus Layla Diggs.
Speaker 5: Someone told someone forgot to tell Ronica Ghaven this is
Speaker 5: not an indie match, as she was trying to do
Speaker 5: indie moves while Layla Diggs was doing a standard PC
Speaker 5: put him on the ground, fight for a little bit,
Speaker 5: come back and everything else. They did say, and they
Speaker 5: did shout out to Arizona Wrestling Company the way you
Speaker 5: got id'. They did bring up the fact that Layla
Speaker 5: was in a match with Cali against Bailey and Lira
Speaker 5: before Live Returns. In the end, just Layla was just
Speaker 5: better backflip into a Payley kick and up to the
Speaker 5: top and she does the Moon the Moon saft for
Speaker 5: the wind. But I like the call from now on
Speaker 5: and just this guy's dead and I'll respect you, sir
Speaker 5: as Leila's doing it. Fly Me to the Moon one,
Speaker 5: two three, So I'm just calling it dad, from now on,
Speaker 5: fly Me to the Moon. No one interfered Gianna Capri
Speaker 5: in her Capri show and even like, oh, I don't
Speaker 5: know why Veronica Haven attacked Layla Diggs, but we're gonna
Speaker 5: see that's I'm like, you know, dang well, white Veronica
Speaker 5: have attacked I'll be a little girl about that, but
Speaker 5: for me, it was.
Speaker 2: A good match.
Speaker 5: Layla is on a winning streak, and did did say
Speaker 5: this at the last line. Blake said, Layla Diggs is
Speaker 5: on the way to the Evolved Women's Championship.
Speaker 2: You do your thoughts on the it's now six and
Speaker 2: oh for Laila.
Speaker 4: Well, one, I'll talk about Haven's outfit, because when I
Speaker 4: was watching Lot, I would say the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, it's the Laura viron Heerio thing.
Speaker 4: And to me, Lyra curious wings were cool just whatever
Speaker 4: happened on the main roster, it looked like it just
Speaker 4: got complicated for like to take it off for some reason.
Speaker 3: I think that's what. Then they did the arms in
Speaker 3: it and didn't work and everything, But when.
Speaker 4: She had them on NXT it was cool every time,
Speaker 4: So I don't know why it just didn't work on
Speaker 4: the main roster, like physically didn't work on the main roster,
Speaker 4: but she always had issues with it on the main roster.
Speaker 4: So after it was cool the wings, I was like
Speaker 4: Diggle's archangel or whatever.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 4: And then the way these were wings were actually better
Speaker 4: than Lyra's because like when she did the bend down
Speaker 4: and kind of folded down and everything too, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: I like this.
Speaker 3: I think they might have cut the scene for her
Speaker 3: like taking it off though, because it looked like it
Speaker 3: was she was gonna do something.
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden she has them off from
Speaker 4: light and I don't even know where the wings went,
Speaker 4: so I think they cut that out.
Speaker 3: But other than that, the mattress really good. Like you're
Speaker 3: like you're saying, like heyn.
Speaker 4: She did do like a lot of moves and everything
Speaker 4: that I wasn't like expecting, so I had to think about, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: think this was my first time seeing or any in
Speaker 4: a one on one match. I think because I've seen
Speaker 4: her in the the multi woman match before, but they
Speaker 4: kind of been holding.
Speaker 3: Off on her. So it was good.
Speaker 4: But Layla was super aggressive. You would almost thought she
Speaker 4: was a heel in this match, and Haven was the face,
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 3: The way she's fighting. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: She was aggressive from beginning to end. And what I
Speaker 3: called the moon Salt on the live stream, I called
Speaker 3: to take my breath away moon salt from Berlin.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I see it, take my breath through.
Speaker 4: So that's what I always think of when I see it,
Speaker 4: because it looked like it's a slow motion a lot
Speaker 4: because she.
Speaker 3: Just ends up in the air. So that's what I
Speaker 3: call it.
Speaker 4: Y'all can take it, well, hopefully y'all can permission from
Speaker 4: Berlin to do it or whatever, but uh, that's what
Speaker 4: I like to call it and the white the white
Speaker 4: woman won this match, and yeah, it really looks.
Speaker 3: Like they're putting on the path for the championship.
Speaker 4: But this is what I have to say about commentary
Speaker 4: that I was trying to hold off on earlier. It
Speaker 4: looked like when they tape this, they weren't actually sure
Speaker 4: what they want, like the final thing they want to
Speaker 4: do with Layla and an Italian group at all, because
Speaker 4: even the commentary is like, oh, yeah, she's been on
Speaker 4: nxt like a couple of times. It's like she's on NXT,
Speaker 4: like not oh she's on the next thing a couple
Speaker 4: of times. She's actually on NXT now, but I think
Speaker 4: she wasn't officially on XT when this taping happened.
Speaker 3: So that's where the coptin New Eric kind of goes there.
Speaker 4: So I think sometimes they kind of have to, you know,
Speaker 4: play a little fast and loose with the commentary. But
Speaker 4: you can always fix that because it's this commentary is
Speaker 4: not like you got their camera on their faces. This
Speaker 4: you can call I don't know how good the audio is,
Speaker 4: but I almost assume you could just call it up
Speaker 4: on your phone or stream yard and just say, hey,
Speaker 4: can you just record this line real quick, like takes
Speaker 4: like five seconds.
Speaker 3: We'll we'll, we'll figure it out. So and the fact
Speaker 3: that she's they've had like time to do this, Like
Speaker 3: I get the whole sling incident. I get that. I
Speaker 3: know that's what happens with tape stuff. Sometimes things like
Speaker 3: that happened.
Speaker 4: But her big on NXC that was the line that
Speaker 4: should have not like, oh yeah, she's kind of been there.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, she's on the main.
Speaker 4: Roster, on the NXT roster now officially now she's kind
Speaker 4: of moon lighting on the ball.
Speaker 3: So that was the only that was my only gret
Speaker 3: with that. I understand why it happened, but I just
Speaker 3: figured it's a quick fix.
Speaker 2: Also, name of the show, the name of the moon lighting.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell everybody in the chat, just find a
Speaker 5: song and connect it to the to the moon Salt,
Speaker 5: because I think deserves a nice little shoe from song China,
Speaker 5: your thoughts of the match, and your name of the
Speaker 5: moon Salt.
Speaker 7: I know, I gotta think of one.
Speaker 6: So with Veronica, and I still want to call her
Speaker 6: fallon even though I know it's wrong, and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: do it fifteen times, so I apologize in advance. Her
Speaker 6: Fallen Angel gimmick is what got her like id'd, and
Speaker 6: then they give it to her to come out and
Speaker 6: she comes out with a sin City Jumbo Tron. I
Speaker 6: don't understand how her Fallen Angel gimmick, which is why
Speaker 6: she has the wings, but her Titan Tron was Sin City,
Speaker 6: so I'm confused at that, so I'm like, what are
Speaker 6: we doing? Do we not know how to use her gimmicks?
Speaker 6: So I'm not sure, So I'm still still processing that one.
Speaker 6: I think they're shooting Leyla to the moon. But what
Speaker 6: I think is interesting is we're seeing her as a
Speaker 6: face and evolve and an next teech she's with the
Speaker 6: Heel group, but you can kind of tell she's a
Speaker 6: reluctant heel. So I'm kind of interested to see how
Speaker 6: that plays out on both factions, especially with Nikida. They're like, hey,
Speaker 6: you get a title shot, but over here we're buddy buddy,
Speaker 6: and over here we're not buddy buddy because after we
Speaker 6: saw with the match, So I'm really excited to see
Speaker 6: how that is. I'm glad to see Ronica have a
Speaker 6: singles match and do more than just sitting in vip
Speaker 6: or with Gianna sitting around. So but I just want
Speaker 6: them to do something with their character because their fallen
Speaker 6: angel character is really cool.
Speaker 7: Same thing with Sloan. I don't know why they don't
Speaker 7: have her do the siren character. The Siren character is awesome.
Speaker 6: She's not the Siren on Evolve, but that's just my
Speaker 6: personal grapes personal rights there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, and she's you know, on the indie she was
Speaker 6: in Notrri's Mimi and she was the siren character and
Speaker 6: it was great, but.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 6: I can't think of a name for the Moon, so
Speaker 6: I'm going to have to contemplate on that when I'm
Speaker 6: going to have to come up with one. But I
Speaker 6: think it's now one of those things that as soon
Speaker 6: as she went up for it, I was like, that's
Speaker 6: the end of the match. And I just hope that
Speaker 6: they don't rely solely on that because I think after
Speaker 6: a while, if she's always doing it, it's great, But
Speaker 6: I want to see them do a little bit maybe
Speaker 6: more that it's just not that Moon Salt. Because yet
Speaker 6: it hit, it made her viral, everybody fell in love
Speaker 6: with it. But at some point you've got to show.
Speaker 7: She can do more than the Moon Salt.
Speaker 6: So I'm really excited to see how these kind of
Speaker 6: two characters between that she's got going on between Evolve
Speaker 6: and an XT play out. But I do think I
Speaker 6: think she's going to be in line to get the title.
Speaker 6: She's gonna she's gonna end up with the title at
Speaker 6: some point. I don't know when, but I have a
Speaker 6: feeling if anybody right now was to take it off
Speaker 6: Nikita with those rocket strapped to her back, I think.
Speaker 7: She would be the one to take it off in Nikita.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to add on a little bit to that,
Speaker 5: like I know ron Gehaven came out with the with
Speaker 5: the wings that kind of show herself out. She's a
Speaker 5: good wrestler. There's nothing wrong with this mass lation, gentlemen.
Speaker 5: It wasn't that memorable, and the only thing memorable was
Speaker 5: the moon Salt. And to add on to that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: her second best move that we have been saying that
Speaker 5: she's been good at is that Booker t kind of
Speaker 5: Sean Strickland like kind of kicked that she does, Like
Speaker 5: that's perfect for a finisher.
Speaker 2: All thing I do is is bend down halfway back
Speaker 2: in the head.
Speaker 3: He likes it. He's coming in on yeah, on the show.
Speaker 3: He likes she's doing it.
Speaker 5: And even that that that kind of like quick that quick, Uh,
Speaker 5: what's that thing called shining wizard that she does, Like,
Speaker 5: that's a really good shining wizard that she does.
Speaker 3: So she can just.
Speaker 5: Incorporate that kind of make it like a claymore out
Speaker 5: of nowhere type of thing, which you can do that
Speaker 5: like you know what it's it's helping for Kendall because
Speaker 5: Kendall stopped doing the arm barn thing.
Speaker 4: Now I was.
Speaker 2: She's doing like supries finisher, Boom surprise finiser.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 5: So that's what you're gonna do. But all right, lady gentlemen,
Speaker 5: no shade that gave Supolski. But I'm going to book
Speaker 5: these two segments to understand how it was supposed to be. Now,
Speaker 5: Elijah holy Fields in the back, he hasn't been yet
Speaker 5: talking about. Look, I have the holy Field name on
Speaker 5: my back for a reason. And you're twenty four, twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four year old boy who thinks he's a veteran
Speaker 5: because you watch a lot of tapes, because you do
Speaker 5: a lot of old school moves.
Speaker 2: No, you know what, I'm gonna knock you.
Speaker 5: Out now as he's doing this, then the graphic for
Speaker 5: Nikita and Laney and the graphic for Brigs Stenson and
Speaker 5: the Eligia holy.
Speaker 2: Fiel would come out. Not before gave Sepolski, I know, oh.
Speaker 3: You're hearing this.
Speaker 2: When you hear this, so.
Speaker 5: Youdy your thoughts on the promo, and now we get
Speaker 5: Brooks Jensen versus holy Field two, which part three is
Speaker 5: going to be the bull rope match.
Speaker 3: You know it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not mad at the graphic coming
Speaker 4: I own because they've already He's gonna have a rematch anyway,
Speaker 4: So this was just kind of making official. But his
Speaker 4: promo though, I'm like, he cut a really good promo.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, I'm I was quite shocked and everything.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Elijah, you whatever it is, you got it,
Speaker 4: you got it, because I'm like, okay, you're pretty good
Speaker 4: in the ring.
Speaker 3: The promo was great. I was like, man, it was
Speaker 3: so good. It's like I believed it and everything.
Speaker 4: And I keep forgetting just how young Brooks Gensen is,
Speaker 4: because that was that's some cold blooded stuff that he said.
Speaker 3: He said, you're twenty four what twenty four year old?
Speaker 3: We called twenty four year old? Bum I think he called.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how are you gonna call this man? Bumm
Speaker 3: say yeah, you just sit around like watching tape and everything.
Speaker 3: I'm like wow, I'm like okay.
Speaker 4: And he was so passionate with the promo too, it
Speaker 4: just came off. I think that's what I t I know,
Speaker 4: we're not talking about horror Louse right now. I think
Speaker 4: that's the problem that I have with horror Loose, Like
Speaker 4: it just sounds natural when Holy Phiel says it just
Speaker 4: sounds like that's something.
Speaker 3: He would say that, like he's had to force it up,
Speaker 3: Like oh, he's not I don't even want to talk
Speaker 3: about because he's not. He's not on LG anymore. But
Speaker 3: the guy, like his promo, he was like like yelling
Speaker 3: for no reason. I I Island, like uh, Chris Island
Speaker 3: or whatever when he was doing LFG, Like it's just
Speaker 3: this comes off as natural.
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, he's yelling a little bit, but you
Speaker 4: could tell, Okay, it's a natural yell.
Speaker 3: He's uh kind of promo.
Speaker 4: He's crisp with it and like me, because I got
Speaker 4: a list, so I can't cut promos like that. But
Speaker 4: I just believed it and it makes me feel like
Speaker 4: it's like, man, it's like this is a long feud,
Speaker 4: but it really isn't. And he talked about how he
Speaker 4: embarrassed him because yeah, you won the match, but you
Speaker 4: won because you fell asleep on top of me and
Speaker 4: they come to three.
Speaker 3: That's what happened.
Speaker 4: So yeah, good promo and yeah this is hey, I
Speaker 4: you know, I'll save that thought for uh, for after
Speaker 4: we talk about the main event, but go ahead, Sean.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So I really liked it as soon as it
Speaker 6: started and we got the graphic, I like, I think
Speaker 6: was poor coach, He's gonna be so mad.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: That was like one of the first things.
Speaker 6: That with my mind was like, oh, he's he's gonna
Speaker 6: he's gonna rant and ray for a little bit.
Speaker 7: But I thought it was a great promo.
Speaker 6: I think it's really starting to show Elijah as Elijah
Speaker 6: and not And even though it was like, you know,
Speaker 6: I have the Holy Field name, I think he's really
Speaker 6: starting to show in these promos and what he's doing.
Speaker 6: I am who I am, but I'm not gonna ride
Speaker 6: that coattail. I want to make a name for myself
Speaker 6: using this name that I don't want you just to
Speaker 6: think of my dad I want you to think of
Speaker 6: me as someone else. So I really really like those
Speaker 6: promos for him. I think this match, he's going to
Speaker 6: get the win on this. In this next coming match,
Speaker 6: he's gonna Brooks isn't going to get this one on him.
Speaker 6: He's going to get that match. So I'm really looking
Speaker 6: forward to it. I really kind of was hoping we've
Speaker 6: could have gotten some sort of rebuttal from Brooks or something.
Speaker 7: I don't know, but I think it's going to be
Speaker 7: really good.
Speaker 6: And I'm just really loving all of the promos that
Speaker 6: he's doing and we're finally getting that character from Elijah,
Speaker 6: and I think, you know, all the work he's putting
Speaker 6: in is really showing, and I think he's going to
Speaker 6: be able to break out and not be Hey, I'm
Speaker 6: just my dad's kid.
Speaker 7: I'm not writing in the name. I'm I'm making the
Speaker 7: name for myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me chip on that real quick, because I
Speaker 3: agree with you. Even watching a promo. I know he's
Speaker 3: Holy Fields Kid, but I don't think of him as
Speaker 3: Holy Fields kid. I just don't. His last name could
Speaker 3: be Jones. Well, we already got captured, but it's like
Speaker 3: we know it. Yeah, but it doesn't feel like it
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like, oh, I'm his kids. You just happen
Speaker 3: to be his kid. To me, that's all. It feels
Speaker 3: like he feels like his actual, own, unique person.
Speaker 6: And that's really good it because I think that was
Speaker 6: one of the fears I had. It was like, everybody's
Speaker 6: just gonna think that, Oh, it's just a Vander's kid.
Speaker 6: Did he get their nepo?
Speaker 7: Baby?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 7: And I think it's really telling now that he's there
Speaker 7: on his own and.
Speaker 4: When he was in NXT, like we all was like
Speaker 4: his dad, it was his dad's kid basically, and that's
Speaker 4: what all they did. They didn't even let him talk
Speaker 4: that much. And I think that was a good thing
Speaker 4: with Elijah that they let him talk and I don't
Speaker 4: even think about I don't even think about his dad
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, that's that's cool. No.
Speaker 5: I love that about him, honestly. I love that about
Speaker 5: him for the fact that if he gets a manager,
Speaker 5: the manager can hype him up and bring up his history,
Speaker 5: not because of the history.
Speaker 2: But in spite of it, like, hey, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: holy for your son.
Speaker 5: Guess what, that doesn't even freaking matter because he's already
Speaker 5: made his goal, made his legend before even came up here.
Speaker 5: Like that should be the way when he comes to NXT,
Speaker 5: like he's so hyped up that people are automatically scared
Speaker 5: of him in NXC before he even has his first match.
Speaker 2: That should be holy And then that.
Speaker 5: Again, not because of his name, because of what he's
Speaker 5: done and evolved and anything else.
Speaker 2: I love that about that, Jensen. Yeah, coach, I know
Speaker 2: you gonna hear this. We're sorry for this.
Speaker 5: We're sorry that you have to watch as much as
Speaker 5: you don't want to watch the match. In your rules,
Speaker 5: you don't want to watch anything, Jensen, I understand, But
Speaker 5: in your own rules you have to watch the match
Speaker 5: because Holy fields in it. So just cover one of
Speaker 5: your eyes when Gens is on that side and just
Speaker 5: play Kate. I don't know, man, understandably, lady gentlemen, it's
Speaker 5: time for the main events. Before we even get to
Speaker 5: the bell, the hood cop that's passing byer Mike Rome
Speaker 5: is an attendance dressing good. Thank you Mike Rome for
Speaker 5: giving a damn for once and we have and I
Speaker 5: love this too, eod if you saw that in the graphics,
Speaker 5: you know the graphics that they show the faces of
Speaker 5: Blake Howard and Robert Stone in microme like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: Al dren A Rizzo reporter h should be gone, should
Speaker 5: be by bike anyway, this is very magical how it's
Speaker 5: all started. We're gonna start it off by just by
Speaker 5: the scene. Setting the scene, Aaron Work does not flip
Speaker 5: his robe as he normally does every single time.
Speaker 3: Yo, do you know this?
Speaker 2: He didn't do it this time.
Speaker 5: I love that the referee told him back up, told
Speaker 5: the Harlem back up, back up.
Speaker 2: You know the fuck's gonna happen. So he's just like
Speaker 2: then he just drops the rope down.
Speaker 5: That's one Mike, Mike, sorry, micro Aaron Roke drop the
Speaker 5: drops the rope down.
Speaker 2: MicroB is saying.
Speaker 5: For the Evolved Championship, the challenger from this place, this place.
Speaker 5: As he's saying Harlem Lewis's stats, Harlem Lewis is looking directly,
Speaker 5: not at Aaron, at the belt and only at the belt,
Speaker 5: and he says he he mouths it, I don't care
Speaker 5: about the introductions.
Speaker 2: All I want is that championship.
Speaker 3: And I love that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what's up, Harlem Lewis. He's just sideways
Speaker 2: and from Sparko City. He does the basement.
Speaker 5: I love that Cardian that IF's a woman did bring
Speaker 5: this up the very last second when he brought the
Speaker 5: belt up to his face right and then they called
Speaker 5: out his name and he did the eye thing. He
Speaker 5: went left and that split second and left. He was
Speaker 5: in disgust.
Speaker 2: He's like, real quick, I'm like I was telling too.
Speaker 2: Bell rings. They back up to the corners. Aaron Rourke
Speaker 2: is like just checking himself in the corner corner.
Speaker 5: Harlem Lewis is looking dead eye at Aaron, just waiting
Speaker 5: for the bell, waiting for the belt.
Speaker 2: Bell rings.
Speaker 5: Mister mister Harlan Lewis b lines does a spear boom
Speaker 5: slang for the one two oh kick out, kick out,
Speaker 5: and I love that. Robert Stone says, now, this is
Speaker 5: the championship match. This is how championship matches should start.
Speaker 2: So here we go. He charged again, but he hit
Speaker 2: a shoulder shoulder first into the ring post.
Speaker 5: Harlem got his shoulder hurt from the apron, but working
Speaker 5: a running penalty kick and then a blockbuster from the
Speaker 5: apron to the floor and the ring working at the
Speaker 5: second rope.
Speaker 3: Oh no, uh oh oh, wait a second or two
Speaker 3: because Alex was in his bag with this play by play.
Speaker 6: I know I am not good at the play by play.
Speaker 6: I tried to write play by pray before like what
Speaker 6: I don't like I've lost I missed too much.
Speaker 4: Wait a second, maybe he'll jump out if you could
Speaker 4: hear us, you're a frozen on our end.
Speaker 3: Because that's all I can do is spoil it.
Speaker 6: I know I will say this ending for me not
Speaker 6: to spoil anything. So when Sammy won, my husband like
Speaker 6: literally backed his chair up from the table and was
Speaker 6: like what just I almost did the same thing, like
Speaker 6: shot out off of the couch.
Speaker 7: I was like, what just happened?
Speaker 3: I was like, this was my my.
Speaker 7: Sammy one moment compared to my husbands, well.
Speaker 4: For me, when Mike Room came out like I know,
Speaker 4: Alex like the fit, I'm like, still championship match. I
Speaker 4: remember saying, I'm like Mike, I mean it's a nice jacket.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a jacket. This is a championship matches
Speaker 3: a jacket. That's That's what I was really thinking of,
Speaker 3: Like come on, man, you gotta you gotta do little something.
Speaker 3: You just you just come to evolve, like however you
Speaker 3: want to come to evolve.
Speaker 4: I guess that's what it is, because you saw, like
Speaker 4: Lillian Garcia was on NXT the previous night.
Speaker 3: It was surprising, like living.
Speaker 4: I guess she does whatever she wants to do because
Speaker 4: she was just doing NXT because she wants to do NXT.
Speaker 6: I guess because that's yeah, because she's mainly been doing
Speaker 6: Saturday Night's main event.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, so that was That was good stuff, though,
Speaker 3: are gonna wait just a little bit more?
Speaker 4: There he goes, all right, continue to play by play.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Sorry about that. My internet was crapping
Speaker 2: and lost my mind.
Speaker 5: Now back to the back to what was happening. I
Speaker 5: hope everyone had fun and the thing was all right.
Speaker 5: When we returned for the break, Harlow was in charge.
Speaker 5: We saw action during the commercial break as Harlem hit
Speaker 5: a Tilt the World backbreaker over his knee.
Speaker 2: Back to live action work hit a series of quick kicks.
Speaker 5: Harlem hit another backbreaker over his knee, then another one
Speaker 5: at at about three minutes into the match, wore hid
Speaker 5: a Tornado DDT, which I felt bad for Harlem because
Speaker 5: he landed on his head that that hurt his ass, honestly,
Speaker 5: then running knee to the jaw. Aaron hit the split
Speaker 5: legging moon Salt, which I did like. Blake said, oh,
Speaker 5: it's a wonderful kind thing, giving giving a shout out
Speaker 5: to RVD like and then all and then uh, Robert
Speaker 5: Jones like, oh I heard that. I like that Harlem
Speaker 5: set up for a pile driver because rope Rok was
Speaker 5: trying to do like a nice little cartwheel to get away,
Speaker 5: but Harlem caught him and he had him in the
Speaker 5: pile driver's position and Carti's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, but in the power drive.
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, no one does pile drivers in w
Speaker 5: W anymore, so you can have to fix that for
Speaker 5: a second. Then they fixed it and then you know whatever.
Speaker 5: Work at a discuss I did love that they called
Speaker 5: the mafia kick. I called the basket kick. Shout out
Speaker 5: to Excalibur Work at a discuss Mafia kick. Then a
Speaker 5: neck breaker over his knee for believable near flaw, near
Speaker 5: fall at six point thirty. Work was shocked he didn't
Speaker 5: win there, which is true. They fought on the ropes
Speaker 5: in the corner and Aaron knocked him to the mat
Speaker 5: Before that, Before that, mister Harlem Lewis did.
Speaker 2: A move to him I forgot what it was. But
Speaker 2: he did a move to Aaron Worke went to pin him,
Speaker 2: only got a one, only got a one.
Speaker 3: He got back.
Speaker 2: Hell up. Aaron Work is screaming at him, you want
Speaker 2: to this for me? Show me, would you?
Speaker 5: And then they went back and forth. Then and now
Speaker 5: I'm just closing my eyes and Jim I can see
Speaker 5: in my head. Then Harlem is on the top rope
Speaker 5: fighting with Aaron Workers also on the top rope.
Speaker 2: He headbutsed Harlem.
Speaker 5: He adjusts, He goes to the molly around and I'm
Speaker 5: telling CARDI, m all right, count count the cows.
Speaker 2: It's done. It's over. It's time to go home. Over
Speaker 2: the rainbow we go.
Speaker 5: He does it, Harlem, instead of doing like the Mortal
Speaker 5: Kombat dizzy move, he corrects himself, counters it and does
Speaker 5: a beautiful power bomb, rolls them over, lifts him up
Speaker 5: for the boom slam.
Speaker 2: Robert song. This is the second one, one two.
Speaker 4: Through.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he up champion after eight months that
Speaker 2: he odd curse him home es he got the belt.
Speaker 5: I love that the referee had to go back once
Speaker 5: he said, hey, save savorr this moment. Then you have
Speaker 5: to get up and put the belt high. Then he
Speaker 5: went back and said, hey, you have to get up
Speaker 5: and get that, like, oh yeah, I forgot because again
Speaker 5: it's a moment for him. He got up, he put
Speaker 5: the belt up high. The kill Joy era has begun. However,
Speaker 5: they've never said that before ever about kill Joy until
Speaker 5: this episode, so that was kind of weird. And Aaron
Speaker 5: Organ so the right side of the ring looking up
Speaker 5: in sadness and shame. So Shawna your thoughts on the match.
Speaker 5: This match lasted about nine minutes and no interference, no shenanigans,
Speaker 5: straight up all the loose one.
Speaker 7: I will say I was shocked there was no shanan
Speaker 7: against her chaos.
Speaker 6: I literally thought we would see some level of shanan
Speaker 6: against their chaos somehow from someone.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if it would.
Speaker 6: Cause any change to the outcome of the match, but
Speaker 6: I was really shocked there wasn't any. As I was
Speaker 6: telling it, eod where you were frozen when Sammy won,
Speaker 6: my husband and ever sitting at our kitchen table and
Speaker 6: he literally like shoved.
Speaker 7: His chair away, like what just happened.
Speaker 6: I'm curled up under a blanket watching in Harlem one
Speaker 6: and I like, through the blanket, I was like, what
Speaker 6: just happened? I was like, that was my moment because
Speaker 6: I did not think that was going to happen. I
Speaker 6: thought maybe this would be Harlem's chance. I thought this
Speaker 6: was going to end with Harlem losing, having his shot
Speaker 6: and then trying to get another contender shot because of
Speaker 6: the Kaosh Shenanigans.
Speaker 7: I didn't win. I need another shot and then he
Speaker 7: might get it.
Speaker 6: In my head, is how I saw tonight last night
Speaker 6: playing out, I think, And this is what I was
Speaker 6: saying with Aaron's promo earlier, when I was trying lots
Speaker 6: of spoil and almost sounded like he was because we've
Speaker 6: seen him on NXT already that he was saying, Hey,
Speaker 6: I'm going to start graduating up, maybe doing double duty.
Speaker 6: It kind of sounded like saying, you know that great
Speaker 6: all of that stuff, like this is who I am,
Speaker 6: and be prepared because I'm taking it to the next level.
Speaker 6: So I would not be shocked if moving forward, we
Speaker 6: don't see Aaron more on NXT. I don't know if
Speaker 6: we'll get a rematch, but I think we'll start seeing
Speaker 6: Aaron a little bit more on NXT. Now really excited
Speaker 6: for Harlem. I'm just now really curious to see who's
Speaker 6: going to be that first contender for him. I don't
Speaker 6: want to replay what's his face I'm blanking because I'm
Speaker 6: still trying to think. Yes, I'm still trying to think
Speaker 6: of a name for the Moon Salt. So I'm really
Speaker 6: I'm really hopeful that it doesn't go back to that.
Speaker 6: It's going to be fun to see who it could
Speaker 6: potentially be going for the title now, So yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: really excited. And now with him having the title, the
Speaker 6: rumors of THEA coming to evolve, I'm wondering to see
Speaker 6: how that plays out if it does. So, I think
Speaker 6: it's going to be and I think everybody was shocked
Speaker 6: that it happened. So I love it when the unpredictable
Speaker 6: that nobody thinks is going to happen happens because then
Speaker 6: it makes it more fun and it keeps you guessing
Speaker 6: on what's gonna come next.
Speaker 2: That also is true before we get the EOD.
Speaker 5: My thoughts on this match like the fact and again
Speaker 5: I'm nothing against the Ood, nothing against you. These thoughts
Speaker 5: are coaching anybody else. We have been making fun of
Speaker 5: the fact that since December. Oh, I deserve, but I
Speaker 5: deserve I wanted to the number one contendership match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a time of a universe it doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2: Well wait, doesn't that count for anything?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Not really. What are we gonna do? Survive?
Speaker 5: Survive for the next few months and to see if
Speaker 5: it would and then what's awesome about this story?
Speaker 2: Lady and gentlemen,