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The inspiration behind 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,840 those lands come from the fount of Bryce Canyon. 52 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Totally see that now that you pointed out to me. 53 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:28,639 But yeah, it's it's pretty cool. 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: Indeed, that's why you should skip the mouse, skip the 55 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:34,199 lines and hit on down to Bryce Canyon and Ruby's 56 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:34,680 in Darnell. 57 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: What have you been working on over at the Daily 58 00:02:36,039 --> 00:02:36,759 Herald recently? 59 00:02:38,479 --> 00:02:42,599 Speaker 1: A lot about basketball, you know, b Yu, it's first 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,960 lost in about thirteen games at Texas Tech. But you know, 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,240 I often wonder with coaches, you know, they talk about 62 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,599 a guy to see the film, I wonder. And we 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,080 haven't been able to talk to Kevin Young since he 64 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,000 that game, but I just wonder does he feel like 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,919 defensively they could have done more or was that just 66 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,039 a case of a team going instanling hot, Because after 67 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,280 b why you took that nine point lead, Texas Tech 68 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:12,879 made seven straight shots, including three or three or four 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,000 three an four three's, one of them a bank by JT. 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,879 Topp and their center from the top of the key, 71 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,240 and then they were at fourteen or fifteen from the 72 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,400 free throw line, so practically perfect in that game. I 73 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:26,159 don't know much that b Why You could have done 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,800 much at the end there, but it is a loss 75 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,080 and they've had a gonna have a week to kind 76 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,120 of stew on it before they take on Utah on Saturday. 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: What did you think? 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,759 Speaker 3: Did you think that there was some frailty in the defense? 79 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,879 Do you feel like Texas or do you feel like 80 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:44,240 just Texas Tech just got hot. 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,159 Speaker 1: I do think Texas Tech got hot, But I also 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,879 think that there was a little bit of fatigue on 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,680 Dyu's defensive end. Towards the end of that game. They 84 00:03:54,719 --> 00:04:00,080 lost a little momentum because you know, they were up nine, 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,560 and then Rob Wright had to go out because he 86 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:05,800 had hurt his pinky and he was tearing up Texas 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,039 Tech at that point, so they lost that little bit 88 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:11,159 of momentum, but they could never get it back. And 89 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:13,080 you know, this is not last year's team that was 90 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,000 eleven deep. This is a team that the starting five 91 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,959 gets almost all the minutes and then kind of depends 92 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,279 on who shows up off the bench, and it's varied 93 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:23,600 from week to week how much time the guys have 94 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,800 been getting. There's been some good moments from the bench guys, 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,560 just not enough of them. And really, I'm not sure 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,600 if there's much Kevin Young could have done down the 97 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,800 stretch of that game because Texas Tech was just on fire. 98 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,519 They're at home, their capacity crowd just riding that wave. 99 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,720 And you know, you certainly want to look at the 100 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,199 film and say, yeah, we could have defended that play better, 101 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,639 We could have done that better. But when when the 102 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,920 sixth to ninth center who has been shooting about, you know, 103 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:53,759 twenty percent from three makes three or four including a banker, 104 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:57,079 it just might not be your day. And that's probably 105 00:04:57,519 --> 00:05:00,360 more of it than anything else. It was just Testas 106 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:03,519 Tech getting crazy good and BYU was a little fatigued 107 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,839 and couldn't quite match it. 108 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:10,399 Speaker 3: Double d Are you concerned that this BYU basketball team 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,040 can't keep the pace that they've been they've been playing at. 110 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:16,720 How do you feel right now about this team. 111 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: I feel probably a little bit like I felt last 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,319 year after the slow start in Big Twelve play. But 113 00:05:22,439 --> 00:05:26,160 Kevin Young got it figured out, and we all think 114 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:28,360 he's a really good coach, so I think he'll figure 115 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,519 it out. They've had a chance to take a breath 116 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:32,360 here this week and kind of work on some things 117 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,480 before they played Utah on Saturday. I would expect a 118 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,360 much better performance consistently through forty minutes, And Kevin Young 119 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:41,079 mentioned that a couple of times in the post game 120 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:43,480 was to win some of these games on the road 121 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:45,399 against really good teams, you've got to play really good 122 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,160 forty minutes. And they played about thirty two good minutes 123 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,439 and then things got away from them. So lots of 124 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:54,319 things for them to work on. And you know, their 125 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,920 defense at times looks really good. Their offense with the 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,319 big three can be overwhelming, but they just want to 127 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:04,519 be able to do both those sides more consistently, and 128 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,199 that's what they're going to be working on. And I 129 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,040 believe Kevin Young will get it figured out and we'll 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,720 get a strong finish by the Cougiers. 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: Tarnold Dixon, the Daily Heraldy and talking to some BAU 132 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:19,240 basketball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. So what 133 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:23,759 would you say right now is the biggest issue ailing 134 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:24,879 BAU basketball. 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,319 Speaker 1: I mean, if you say they're ailing and they just 136 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,680 lost one game, that's not like a what are they missing? 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: All right? 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: No? 139 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,399 Speaker 2: No, no, hey, this is a one. It's not a need. 140 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay. 141 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,639 Speaker 2: This is a one, not a eat. 142 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: What is it that was going to take them from 143 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:45,680 sweet sixteen to Final four type of team? 144 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:46,639 Speaker 2: What are we missing? 145 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:51,079 Speaker 1: I think what we're missing right now is consistency from 146 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,759 the guys who aren't the big three. And I you know, 147 00:06:55,879 --> 00:06:59,040 I hate to pick on specific players, but Cannard Davis 148 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,560 has not figured out his role on this team yet. 149 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,240 And to me, he's kind of like what what Meg 150 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:07,680 would be if he decided he was a shooter and 151 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,480 wanted to score. Because Davis is having a really hard 152 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,519 time putting the ball in the basket. He's under thirty 153 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:15,279 percent from three. He was zero for five or oh 154 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,639 for six in that game on Saturday. He can play defense. 155 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,720 I think he's pretty good at that, but when you 156 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,920 are struggling offensively and you kind of use that as 157 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,519 your identity, that can affect both ends of the floor. 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,279 So I think Cannard Davis has to figure out what 159 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,199 he wants to do for this team. Does he want 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,279 to be a guy that's the fourth scorer in the 161 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:39,600 Big three in front of him or does he want 162 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:42,759 to be a contributor defensively and take those open shots 163 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,519 when they get him. Because as much as the defense 164 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,959 has to focus on the Big three, there's open shots there. 165 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:51,639 And what they're missing right now is guys who can 166 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:56,079 consistently make the defense pay for their commitment to those 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,839 top three players. And they've tried a lot of different combinations. 168 00:08:00,199 --> 00:08:03,800 You know, I said several times in that game, Boy, 169 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:05,120 this would be a good time for them to have 170 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,240 someone like Dawson Baker. They could bring in who was 171 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,040 shooting about forty five percent from the field and forty 172 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:15,160 eight percent three when he got hurt. That really changes 173 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:17,160 things up for the defense when they have to worry 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,920 about somebody hitting open shot, and right now they don't 175 00:08:19,959 --> 00:08:23,600 have anybody that's doing that consistently, and that is a problem. 176 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,079 And so if you're asking me that that's what I 177 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:29,279 think is what they're missing right now to become a 178 00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:31,600 team that can go deep into the tournament is just 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,679 more consistency from those guys coming off the bench. 180 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd like to see that. 181 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,159 Speaker 3: You'd like to see some some bench scoring and bench productivity, 182 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,480 no doubt about it, don't now. As we get prepped, 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,000 we get ready for the I mean, the big game 184 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:50,600 on the dock at right now is that U of 185 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:53,759 A game, right, It's going to be electric. It's all 186 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,879 all sins are a tone for, where all losses are 187 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:58,360 a ton foras you can beat U of A at home. 188 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: Right, oh for sure. And that Arizona team, it's interesting 189 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,600 because they were pretty good last year, had double digit losses, 190 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:09,720 so they lost some games early in the season, but 191 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:13,000 they got a really high seed in the tournament. They 192 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,320 lost some guys to graduation as well as guys who transferred, 193 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,480 and I think they're much better this year. They just 194 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:21,559 seem to be more dynamic. They've got a couple of 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,759 freshmen that are really good, and they were able to 196 00:09:25,039 --> 00:09:28,039 just put together these great runs. They're really good basketball teams. 197 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,879 So that's going to be a big deal for BYU 198 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:32,600 to be able to play them at home first. And 199 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,840 last year we saw Arizona come into Provo and beat 200 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,679 b YU and then b YU went on the road 201 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,000 and beat the Wildcats at their place. So it's starting 202 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,200 to be a pretty good rivalry in this league. And 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,759 I'm really looking forward to that game. The Merritt Centers 204 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:47,720 should be jumping. 205 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,519 Speaker 2: No doubt about it, Double D. 206 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: I know you've been talking a lot of hoop recently, 207 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,000 But football and the transfer portal and the college football 208 00:09:57,039 --> 00:10:03,360 Playoff and the college football Championship is done? Does now 209 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,159 you're the you're kind of my my prototype for the 210 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,480 old curmudgeon that that wants to go back to the 211 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:12,879 past right and do away with nil at transporportal? But 212 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,960 does is there any solace given the fact that Indiana, 213 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,679 the losing his team in college football became the national 214 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,159 champion this year in the current state that everyone says 215 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,720 is broken, Well. 216 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,519 Speaker 1: We'd have to kind of have a little bit more, 217 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,000 you know, some a little bit a few more years 218 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 of this happening. I think, okay, because the data point 219 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,080 is pretty small. It's just one team that did it. 220 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:42,399 Speaker 3: It's but I mean, it's the losing his power for 221 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:46,600 it's the losing his power conference team ever and one 222 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:49,039 hundred years like, they had not had a ten win 223 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,720 season and they just won the national championship. 224 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,759 Speaker 1: They had as many wins against top twenty five competition 225 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,360 this year and they've had in their entire existence. Yeah, 226 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,840 it's nuts and and certainly I think coaches and programs 227 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:09,240 can look at that and say, hey, that could be us. 228 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,159 So so you know, it happened once. Empirically, we don't 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,639 know if it's going to happen again. Maybe maybe the 230 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,159 big wigs get it figured out and get their money 231 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:22,480 straightened out and go out and buy a championship in 232 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,279 Indiana did their own thing and created it their own way, 233 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,320 and it's it's a pretty amazing feat. But I also 234 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,360 look at it, you know, well, I'm sure we're going 235 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:34,639 to talk about the schedule in this conversation, but as 236 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,120 I look at the schedule and we try to predict 237 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,440 what's going to happen, then I have hard enough time 238 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,320 predicting what BYU is going to do, let alone the 239 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,399 twelve opponents they're going to play, and with nil and 240 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,519 the transfer portal, that makes it even more difficult because 241 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:50,879 we looked at this last year's schedule and thought, well, 242 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:52,799 there's a five game stretch there that could really be 243 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:55,960 BYU's undoing. BYU went four and one on that stretch. 244 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,759 This year we're looking at it and saying, boy, that TCU, 245 00:11:59,799 --> 00:12:02,720 I State, Notre Dame, Well those three games, who knows. 246 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:06,080 I mean, you just don't know from year to year anymore. 247 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,279 It's becoming increasingly more difficult to predict how your opponents 248 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,559 will do based on the fact they can turn it 249 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,480 around so quickly, as we just saw with Indiana. That's 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,320 where I'll tie that in is that you know, from 251 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,840 year to year, you may you have a harder time 252 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:23,600 figuring out if a team is going to be good 253 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,440 or not. And so as we look at YU schedule, 254 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,240 and we look at college football as a whole, you know, 255 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:33,799 the AP votes that go out and I've been an 256 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,679 AP voter, it makes it increasingly difficult every year to 257 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,440 figure out who's going to be really good, who's going 258 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:43,480 to find that magic formula of returners and new guys 259 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,600 and fill those positions and pay them the right amount 260 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:49,120 of money where they're not looking elsewhere. As soon as 261 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:52,399 they get a little bit of adversity. Who puts that 262 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,840 together the best, and sometimes it's difficult to predict. Not 263 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,960 I don't think anyone would have predicted Indiana would be 264 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,240 able to do that, even after last year when they 265 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:03,919 when they won a bowl game. So that's what I'm 266 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,240 looking at as your old curmudgeon, that it's becoming increasingly 267 00:13:08,279 --> 00:13:11,639 more difficult to be an expert in this because things 268 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,120 change from year to years so fast. 269 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: I get it. I did that. 270 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:18,399 Speaker 3: Does that data point though kind of like, you know, 271 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:20,879 does it make you it all optimistic though? 272 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:23,519 Speaker 2: Or not? It's still kind of curmudgeony here. 273 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, one data point doesn't make that's not good enough. 274 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I still I still think that looking down the road, 275 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,720 there are issues and problems that that could could wear 276 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:40,919 the ugly head and cause submission. We know right now 277 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,399 college football is more popular than it's ever been. The 278 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,399 numbers are up, and viewing, the numbers are up, and spending. 279 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 It's really popular right now. Is it sustainable? That's I 280 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,039 guess my most curmudgety take is ten years from now, 281 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,000 what are we looking at for college football? Is it 282 00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:57,879 just going to be a minor league for the NFL? 283 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Is it going to be you know, employees, I mean, 284 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:05,159 are the Bowl games gonna be gone. Possibly. I mean, 285 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,399 we don't know the future, but I just feel like 286 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,240 a lot of the decisions that are being made are great, 287 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:13,480 maybe for the short term, but not for the long term. 288 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,080 And we'll see, and we'll see if I survive long 289 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,720 enough to view it. 290 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: Who knows you're gonna survive many years from from now, Darnell, 291 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,480 You're gonna live to the riple age of one hundred 292 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,559 to see by you finally win a second national championship. 293 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:32,279 Speaker 2: How far away are they from doing such, Darnell. 294 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:35,519 Speaker 3: They retained their roster, they retain most of their coaches, 295 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:38,120 They've acquired some good players in the portal. How far 296 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:41,519 away are they? What positions are they are they in 297 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,559 need of? What talent are they in need of? In 298 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:44,600 order to get over the hump? 299 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,039 Speaker 1: Well, if we believe the one data point we just 300 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,879 talked about, it could be next year, Ben, you know 301 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:53,679 what I mean. I feel like they've done a pretty 302 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,919 good job of filling in some holes that they need, 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,360 and the coaches know better than anyone who am the 304 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:04,279 returners are ready to take the next step up, whether 305 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,279 it be somebody that was a scout team that's going 306 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,559 to be a backup, whether somebody was a backup, it's 307 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:11,919 going to be a starter. A starter's going to be 308 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:17,519 a star. They know those situations the best. And if 309 00:15:17,559 --> 00:15:20,639 you retain and your goals to retain those guys you've 310 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:24,080 been working with, you want that to benefit you the 311 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,120 next year. And the way that benefits you is they 312 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:29,480 know what they're doing, they're confident, they fill their role 313 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:31,919 as well, and they want to be there. I mean, 314 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,519 that's that's a big deal I think in today's college 315 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:38,559 sports is do they want to be there? And if 316 00:15:38,559 --> 00:15:41,360 they have a little adversity, does that make them start 317 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,960 get a wandering eye right away? I mean, you know 318 00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:46,720 a month into the season that things aren't going exactly 319 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:48,639 the way I did. Go on, gosh, I'm looking where 320 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,679 could I go? You know that you wonder about that, 321 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,679 and I think BYU's doing their best to create an 322 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:59,759 environment that everyone feels that they're they're getting their best 323 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,639 show and part of a family and all that stuff. 324 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,720 And so as you look at what comes up next 325 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:08,639 season with a quarterback and a running back coming back 326 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:12,600 that are really good defensive players, you know, great transfer 327 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,639 portal hall so far, the linebacker spot they're putting themselves 328 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:18,320 in a good position to have an under great year. 329 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,399 But we saw last year and last season anyway, it 330 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,720 hasn't even been a year yet, but even an eleven 331 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:29,879 to one record didn't get BYU into the football playoffs. 332 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:31,960 You know, they were eleven to one going into the 333 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,000 Big twelve championship game, and a lot of situations teams 334 00:16:35,039 --> 00:16:36,919 like that don't get punished for losing that game and 335 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,960 they get in b why you didn't. So it almost 336 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,159 seems like they still have to go undefeated in order 337 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,759 to get into the playoffs. Can they do that? Sure, 338 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,799 it's not easy to do, and you would expect after 339 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,879 getting into a power conference that there would be a 340 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:55,240 little bit more lee way. And apparently there's just one 341 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:58,399 game different where maybe eleven and one gets you in 342 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:00,480 this year, if you beat Notre Dame, maybe that's the 343 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:03,559 one that puts them over the top. On October seventeenth 344 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,640 of twenty twenty six, they win that game into that 345 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,200 puts them in if they're eleven and one. But I 346 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,759 think they're putting together good pieces and they proved that 347 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:17,680 the system works. They've got to have some adjustment period 348 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:21,160 to Jay Hill leaving and General Guilfer leading me brought 349 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,799 in coaches to get that started, and Kalik the THINGA 350 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,240 knows this defense well. Does he know how to inspire 351 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:30,640 the troops? I think so? Does he know how to 352 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,240 make those halftime adjustments and in game adjustments that I 353 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,440 think Jay Hill did really well with Will We'll see. 354 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: So I just came upon this real quick. 355 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: Kirk Signetti was one of the voters in the coaches 356 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,799 pulled the season, and this is his final Top twenty 357 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:52,240 five ballot. Indian obviously number one, Miami number two, Oregon three, 358 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,839 Mississippi O miss for Ohio State five, Georgia's six, Notre Dame, seven, 359 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,200 Texas eight, Texas A and M nine, Texas Tech. 360 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: Ten, Iowa nine and four. 361 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: Iowa is eleven nearly beat the Hoosiers back in September 362 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:12,480 ranked them an eleventh to this poll. Alabama twelve, Oklahoma thirteen, 363 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,799 Brigham Young fourteen. 364 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: That's where he's got in Utah at fifteen. 365 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: Your reaction to the news that bus is actually the 366 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,759 fourteenth ranked team per the National Championship, Hell, I mean. 367 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,799 Speaker 1: He's going definitely on what he saw on the field. 368 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,440 Talking about the Iowa game, I think that by use 369 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,759 a top ten team, and I think they should be 370 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:40,440 a top ten or fifteen team going into next year, 371 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,880 and we know how important that is in terms of 372 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,599 being able to move up once you start winning. Unless 373 00:18:46,599 --> 00:18:49,839 there's a big offseason issue like there was last year 374 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,279 with b what you're losing its quarterback. They should be 375 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,359 a top ten or fifteen team heading into too twenty 376 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,240 twenty six. So that puts them in a position where 377 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,119 if they win their games, they're going to get in. 378 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,200 And so you know, this season's over. They did the 379 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,960 best they could. Have a hard time with Texas Tech, 380 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,680 which laid a big egg in the playoffs unfortunately. So 381 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,000 it doesn't even look good to me why you lost 382 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:17,880 to them now. But we're moving on and the Cougars 383 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,319 are getting prepared. 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