WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.039 Bill cunning into Grant America. Welcome to someone Randy Afternoon 2 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:13.359 in the tri States. Coming up later as Michael Wright scheduling. 3 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.079 Michael Wright, he's the attorney for the estate Shall always 4 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:19.079 saved the eighteen year old who was killed at the 5 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:22.079 hands of Cincinnati police because of his behavior. That's the 6 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:24.559 estate of Ryan Hinton, eighteen years old plus. Later on 7 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.359 we're going to talk about the arrangement, further arraynment and 8 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:31.280 no bond hearing set this morning and the father's charges, 9 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:34.200 that being Rodney Hinton. But until then you may not 10 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.039 know it or not. This is an election day, and 11 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.920 I'm thinking, are you kidding me? It's an election and 12 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.640 we have the man in charge of elections in the 13 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:44.320 state of OHI Frank LaRose, Secretary of State. And Frank, 14 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.560 welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Frank, how 15 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:46.880 are you? 16 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:49.079 Ben Willie? And it is election day. 17 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.840 The pouls have been opened for hours and they're ready 18 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:55.520 to go. Over three thousand voting locations open until seven 19 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.840 thirty tonight. Only two percent of Ale Highlands have already 20 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.359 voted through the early vote process. That it means ninety 21 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.240 eight percent of you need to still get out and 22 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:04.040 make your voice heard. 23 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:04.680 Yep, that's it. 24 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:08.120 Two two percent. So there's a ways to go to 25 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:12.079 get to fifty percent, which is impossible. Tony Bender wants 26 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:14.519 to know what about state issue too, because I know 27 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:15.920 everything I think. 28 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.400 I like to communicate that to my listeners. Actually, I 29 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.959 know nothing about state issue too. So can you tell 30 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:24.680 me to vote yay or naym state issue too? Or 31 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.560 can you not give me a yes or no? Just 32 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:27.840 tell me what it is? Which is it? 33 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:29.680 I'd be happy to tell you how I voted. 34 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.599 My wife and I went and voted early at the 35 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:35.079 Franklin County Board of Elections on Saturday, and we both 36 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.439 voted yes on issue too. If you want to do 37 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:40.400 your own homework, vote Ohio dot gov is our website. 38 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.640 You'll see the full language of the amendment. If you 39 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.480 want to look at it, you'll see an argument, a 40 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:47.239 very concise argument for it, and a very concise argument 41 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:50.120 against it. But here's the simple way to understand this. 42 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:54.480 This is a decades old infrastructure program in Ohio that 43 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.359 borrows money to pay for roads and bridges and water 44 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.760 and sewer. I would call the good kind of government spending. 45 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.400 We all know about the nonsense government spending. This is 46 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.120 the stuff that Trump and Musk have been rooting out 47 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:09.439 through DOGE and there are plenty of things that at 48 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:13.360 least the federal level that they waste money on. Infrastructure, though, 49 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.680 is a smart investment when you're building roads and building 50 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.199 bridges and water and sewer. This is the stuff that 51 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.240 our economy rides on. That's why a lot of the 52 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.360 businesss like the Chamber of Commerce and others have been 53 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.240 strong supporters of a yes. 54 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:27.520 Vote on issue too. 55 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:32.000 It allows the state legislature to borrow five or sorry 56 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.919 two point five billion dollars over the next few decades 57 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.800 to invest that money at the local level. It has 58 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.280 worked well for Ohio over the last few decades, and 59 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.560 I think it's a smart thing. But again, do your 60 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.159 own homework, vot dot and go for all the information. 61 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.879 By the way, it has nothing to do with football 62 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:48.800 stadiums anywhere. 63 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.159 There's been some confusion about this. As you know, I'm 64 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.319 a life long Browns fan. 65 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.319 I understand you guys have a football team down there 66 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.680 at Cincinnati as well that you all love and you should. 67 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.240 But this has nothing to do with the debate that's 68 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.000 currently happening in the state legislature they are debating whether 69 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:07.879 they will do a bond program to borrow money for 70 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:11.680 a football stadium. This has nothing to do with that issue, too, 71 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:12.960 is a completely separate thing. 72 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:17.719 So if this is intertwined with the Cleveland Browns not 73 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.639 real popular in Cincinnati, or the Bengals not real popular 74 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:24.120 in Cleveland, or with Ohio State, they get all the 75 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:26.560 money anyway, because all you guys in Columbus take care 76 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.960 of Ohio State. This has nothing to do with building stadiums. 77 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:33.639 This is about continuing roads and bridges things like that. Correct, 78 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:34.520 nothing to do. 79 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:35.639 That's it. 80 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.039 If you don't like potholes, if you want clean water 81 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:41.919 and good sewer systems that work when you flush the toilet, 82 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:45.840 then a vote yes on ISSUQ would be my recommendation. Again, 83 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.120 it invests money in infrastructure only, and it does it 84 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.879 at the local level. And that's what's important to point out. 85 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.639 You brought it up about the dose, etc. We have 86 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.520 a candidate for governor who I think is going to 87 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.199 be endorsed to stay wide on Friday by the state 88 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:04.240 Republican Party, which is quite unusual. Normally, you Republicans let 89 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.039 primaries determine by the voters who to vote for, and 90 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.800 normally it's hands off. You've got two or three qualified 91 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.439 people running for governor. David Yost have had him on repeatedly, Mammy, 92 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.000 even more than I've had you on. Is a very 93 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:20.519 popular attorney general, wins every time he runs. He's announced 94 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:23.879 for governor. David Yosho would be a good governor. We 95 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.120 have another candidate running, Vivike Ramaswami that everyone's endorsing, beginning 96 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.680 with Donald Trump. I know you're endorsed him. Got in early. 97 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:35.279 And why is the Republican Party, which is supposedly organized 98 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:37.720 to let the voters decide in primaries who to vote for, 99 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.399 gonna tip the scales in favor of Aveke Ramaswami against 100 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:43.800 David Yost, who's been there for the past thirty years 101 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.399 in one office or another. Can you answer that question. 102 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.639 Yeah, so you're right to mention David is a good man. 103 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.120 I had a good public servant. 104 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:56.360 But my strong choice is for Viveke Ramaswami. 105 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.879 I was the first to endorse. 106 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:02.199 Him because I believe that Vivek will be a transformational. 107 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.480 Governor, not just a good governor, not a company. 108 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:07.000 Governor, a transformational governor for Ohio. That's why I'm supporting him. 109 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.639 My endorsement isn't the one that matters the most. That 110 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.879 one comes from President Trump, who early on endorsed Leveik. 111 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.279 He referred to Vevek as something special and talked about 112 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.759 him as a generational leader. Now, listen, it's still up 113 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:21.920 to the voters. That always will be for them to 114 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:24.879 decide who they want their party's nominee to be. They 115 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.800 will make that decision next spring when the state holds 116 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:32.240 it primary. I support the party endorsing Vivek, And there's 117 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.279 a simple, really two reasons why the party has a 118 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.680 responsibility to give the seal of approval, to give a 119 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.639 nod to who they think is the best person. Most 120 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.079 voters are busy people. They have families to raise, the 121 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.279 businesses to run, and they're looking for some indication from 122 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.079 the state party who they believe would be our best candidate. 123 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.800 And for the state party to endorse is not an 124 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:57.519 unusual thing. In fact, they've endorsed in primaries throughout their history. 125 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.639 It did last year they endorsed President Trump. Ohio is 126 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.560 the first state in the country to endorse President Trump, 127 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.120 and so it is a normal and expected thing for 128 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.199 the party to do that. 129 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:08.279 But again, I'm. 130 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.160 Supporting him because I think he's the guy that can 131 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:14.319 really transform Ohio. He's got great energy, great vision. Well, 132 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.720 let me describe it to you like this. In the military, 133 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.439 we have leaders that we have to follow because they've 134 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.399 got more rank than us, and everybody just kind of 135 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.480 grits their teeth and does what the commander says because 136 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:25.040 he's got more rank on his sleeve than you do. 137 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.600 Big is that rare kind of leader that you follow 138 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.160 because you want to. He's got a clear vision, he 139 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.279 articulates it well, he's got the energy to carry that 140 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:37.399 vision out, and he also has the courage the courage 141 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.560 to get tough things done, like eliminating the state income text, 142 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.959 which is one of the major proposals he's been talking about, 143 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:47.120 improving public education in Ohio, improving our energy grid in Ohio, 144 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.279 things that really are necessary for Ohio to be a 145 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.879 state of excellence. I think with ak Ramaswami is the 146 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:54.920 man to deliver on that, and I think that the 147 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:58.079 Republican Party should endorse him when they meet on Friday. 148 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.439 Frank LeRose, I'll play devil's advocate. He wants to get 149 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:03.600 rid of the state income tax, which is like two 150 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:05.959 or three percent. There's another group that wants to get 151 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.920 rid of the state property tax. We have no property taxes, 152 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.920 then we have no income taxes. One might ask, how 153 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.680 does the state raise about sixty billion dollars a year 154 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.519 If there's no income tax and no property tax, where 155 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:19.839 does the money come from. There's a tree behind city 156 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.360 Hall and then one plumb street that Charlie Luken used 157 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.279 to say, I go back there and shake the money 158 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:25.680 tree and the money just falls out. 159 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.680 So if we have no income tax and no property tax, 160 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:30.560 where how does the money come from? 161 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.120 All these things are popular in the vacuum. 162 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.920 Sure, there is a group that wants to eliminate the 163 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.920 property tax. I think that may be a little bit 164 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:41.800 of a of a bad plan. I think what we 165 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.600 should do is cap the property tax. I think property 166 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:46.959 taxes are entirely too high. One of the reasons I'm 167 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.160 running for state auditor, by the way, is that I 168 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:52.000 think that we need to scrutinize the way local government 169 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.120 spends money so that they're not constantly coming to the 170 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.120 ballot for another tax increase over and over again. That's 171 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:02.439 property tax, income tax. Listen, we compete with forty nine 172 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.759 other states, and many states throughout this country have eliminated 173 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.439 their income tax, states like Texas, states like Florida State, 174 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.560 Flake Tennessee that in many cases never had one. If 175 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.639 Ohio is going to compete in the modern economy to 176 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.920 attract talent to our state and to attract businesses to 177 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.279 our state, I think it's time that we continue phasing 178 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.639 out and in short order eliminate the state income tax. 179 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.519 And by the way, other states find ways to raise 180 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.279 the revenue they need through sales taxes and that kind 181 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:34.559 of thing, that we can fund the essential services of 182 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.879 state government, which of course we want to do. We 183 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:39.720 want to have police officers and good public schools and 184 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.960 all those kind of things that state government needs to buy. 185 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.080 But the income tax is a bad way of. 186 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.080 Doing it, and I think it's time that Ohio joins 187 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:48.799 a lot of other states and gets rid of that. 188 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.879 That's one of the things that Pavec is running on, and. 189 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.159 Frank Laro's on property taxes. I don't think it should 190 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.840 be eliminated. But if someone's a senior citizen on a 191 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.240 fixed income, if the house is worth less than no, no, no, 192 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.120 pick a number three hundred thousand, dollars and they have 193 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:07.480 an income of fifty thousand dollars sixty thousand dollars a year. 194 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:10.039 You don't pay state income tax on Social Security, but 195 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.799 you pay federal tax. Maybe that's going to change. Ken. 196 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.919 I'm sensitive to older Americans that don't have a lot 197 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.279 of assets, that have to sell their house biers they 198 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:21.039 can't afford. What can you do to keep property taxes? 199 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.519 But put a cap. If you're a senior citizen on 200 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.600 a fixed income, without a half million dollars in assets, 201 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.679 without a job that's paying you five hundred thousand dollars 202 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:31.600 a year, how do you fashion it to keep the 203 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.639 old folks in the community because they pay taxes their 204 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:35.679 whole life. How do you do that? 205 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:40.320 Yeah, you're absolutely right, especially for those seniors that paid 206 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.279 off their homes or for people like me that are 207 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.720 still paying a mortgage. When you look at your interest 208 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.679 payment and your principal payment, and it's starting to look 209 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.679 like your property taxes are just as much as your interest. 210 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.080 In principle, it's un American. And there are two things 211 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.399 that lead to this problem. One is again, wasteful spending 212 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.639 at the local level needs to be screwed. Denies that's 213 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.320 something that the state auditor can do. And the other 214 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.919 thing is that they need to have a cap on 215 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:10.840 property tax. Rather a cap on property tax would help 216 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.120 prevent these big increases that we've seen in recent years. 217 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.639 That's something that I think our next governor of ak Bromswami, 218 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:19.799 working with our state legislature. 219 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:21.559 Will get done. And that's why I'm a big support that. 220 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:25.000 For seniors, the state of Ohio has a thing currently 221 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:29.000 called the Homestead Exempt provide a very small measure of 222 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:31.200 relief to seniors, but it's not nearly enough, and I 223 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.039 think we need to boost that by now. 224 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.200 Lastly, you bring up police officers this community. I know 225 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.000 you're a high flute and politician there in Columbus, but 226 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:43.440 you're also a military man. And we had a terrible 227 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:47.200 incident in which a father, thirty eight year old Rodney Hinton, 228 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.840 used his car as a weapon to kill Deputy Sheriff 229 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:56.519 Larry Henderson last week. And we have a situation here 230 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.440 where the eighteen year old his son was hoisting was 231 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.440 jack and carrs all over northern Kentucky, driving them into 232 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.639 Ohio to use for various purposes, including committing crimes using 233 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:10.399 a Kia or a Hyundai. It's not their vehicle, and 234 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.279 the police recalled. They come to the scene. The eighteen 235 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.159 year old boy runs. He's got in his possession a 236 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:20.320 nine millimeter with an extended mag The officers say the 237 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.159 gun was pointed at them had the ability to shoot 238 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:27.679 about thirty two projectiles in about six seconds. The officer 239 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:30.759 took quick notice of that fact and shot and killed 240 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.480 Ryan Hinton, who's eighteen years old. I have his attorney, 241 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:36.720 the attorney for the estate, coming up in about an hour. 242 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.600 His name is Michael Wright. And at this point, there 243 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.279 was a hearing hell this morning in municipal court in 244 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.399 which my friend judged tyrone Yates. And I mean my friend, 245 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.440 he's a good guy. We used to practice law together. 246 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.320 Set no bond in the case of the father who 247 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:57.399 murdered in cold blood a police officer. You travel the state, 248 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:01.240 you go to Cleveland. Unfortunately in Toledo and Columbus and Cincinnati. 249 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.919 Have you noticed a general lack of respect for law 250 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.679 enforcement in every major city, not just in Ohio, but 251 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:07.600 around the country. 252 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.440 I think there are a small minority of Ohioans that 253 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.000 don't respect law enforcement. I think the best mcburry of 254 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:17.200 us do I was with a group of sheriff's deputies 255 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.360 last night in Clinton County and they all have the 256 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.679 black bands on their badge because they were in mourning 257 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:25.840 for their brother, Deputy Henderson. And so we need to 258 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.360 first and foremost keep his family and his brother deputies, 259 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.799 brother and sister deputies in our prayers. Every day we 260 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.759 ask good men and women to put on a badge 261 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.559 and a gun and to go out there and to 262 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.480 risk their lives to protect our safety. Anyone who would 263 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.639 dare try to or be successful in taking the life 264 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.159 of one of our dear public servants, one of these 265 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.879 great law enforcement officers deserves to have the full force 266 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.000 of the law brought down them. I think that somebody 267 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:55.799 like that you need to make an example of them 268 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.519 so that people see that this is not something that 269 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.000 we as a society would ever hollering. These are our 270 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.720 finest or finest Ohioans that serve us in law enforcement. 271 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.399 And guess what, ninety nine point nine percent of the time, 272 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.720 these are men and women that follow their training and 273 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:12.519 do the right thing. And on those rare occasions when 274 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.440 somebody doesn't do the right thing, there will be consequences 275 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.320 for it. They will have to pay the price if 276 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.200 they don't follow their training and they don't do the 277 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:22.240 right thing. But someone taking the law into their own 278 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.519 hands is completely unacceptable. And this perpetrator, if the facts 279 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.799 prove this out, it's the full penalty that's available. 280 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.039 To him, and it's supposedly it's a death penalty. But 281 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.399 my friend and yours, Mike Dwine, doesn't. He kind of 282 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.840 mouths the idea that I'm in favor of the death penalty, 283 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:40.080 but in reality he isn't because he will not sign 284 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:43.200 a death warrant. Do you have some indication if a 285 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.399 fake Ramaswami is the governor that he would sign death 286 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:49.639 warrants for those who purposely murder police officers. 287 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.519 I'd have to let him speak for himself on that issue. 288 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:55.799 As much time as we've spent out on the campaign trail, 289 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.559 I've not heard him articulate his his stance on that, 290 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.080 but I'm sure he has a well thought out one. 291 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.000 I'll say this that I'm generally one that believes that 292 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.320 the death penalty should be used very sparingly. 293 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.799 In many cases, it just doesn't make sense. 294 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.519 I think the case is somebody that that in wanton 295 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.919 cold blood kills, a law enforcement officer. That's the one 296 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:19.559 of the times that that the death penalty definitely should 297 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:20.720 be applied doesn't apply. 298 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.440 And if Hamilton County doesn't prosecute him with a spec 299 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.279 death penalty, spec, we don't have a death penalty. I 300 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:28.480 felt the same thing in Claremont County when that young 301 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.000 father purposely murdered as three boys in cold blood, three children, 302 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:35.840 and they decided Clairemont County not to have a spec 303 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.799 death penalty and gave life imprisonment without possibility of pearl. 304 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.080 Claremont County doesn't have a death penalty. And if this 305 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.440 is not prosecuted as a death penalty case, we don't 306 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.639 have a death penalty in Hamilton County. And if it's 307 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.399 applied that haphazardly, we shouldn't have the death penalty. If 308 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:51.279 people like this don't get it, we might as well 309 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.799 not have one. But once again, Frank Leroe, Secretary State, 310 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:56.720 thanks for coming on and you say vote yes an 311 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.240 issue too. And if you need more explanation, check out 312 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.720 the website vot odo Ohio dot gov. It explains what 313 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.600 it is. It has nothing to do with stadiums, had 314 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:06.840 nothing to do with that. It's about rows and bridges, 315 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:10.000 and sewer systems, things like that. And once again, Frank LeRose, 316 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.759 you're a soldier and secretary of state and you're going 317 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:14.559 to become what the auditor in about a year and 318 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:15.440 a half. Is that the deal? 319 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:17.399 God willing? 320 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.519 I'm running for auditor of state. And listen a local 321 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:20.639 elections matter. 322 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.559 Get out and vote. The polls are up until seven 323 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.120 thirty tonight. Will even give you a free sticker when 324 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:25.759 you come to vote. 325 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:28.639 I promise plus a two percent turnout so far, there's 326 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.360 a little ways to go. Will there be a ten 327 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:32.919 percent turnout? Is that possible? 328 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:34.639 Gosh? 329 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:36.639 I hope, so I'm not holding my breath. 330 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.600 One hundred and seventy two thousand, six hundred and fifty two. 331 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.799 One hundred and seventy two thousand, six hundred and fifty 332 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:45.159 two Ohioans have voted already through the early vote period. 333 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:46.759 That means two percent. 334 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.039 That means about ninety eight percent of us still need 335 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:50.759 to get off our bucks, get out there and vote 336 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:51.960 and do our ourseic duty. 337 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.159 Now this is about ten thousand different ways to vote. 338 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:57.600 That sounds to me like voter suppression, but we'll see 339 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.320 what happens. Frank, thank you very much for coming on 340 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.279 the Bill Cunningham Show, especially your comments on law enforcement. 341 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:06.679 Thank you very much. Thanks, Let's continue with more. And 342 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.879 of course Franklin Rose himself as a soldier, so he's 343 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.559 in the reserves, has served active duty, etc. And so 344 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:16.360 I love having individuals on like Franklin Rose. Let's continue 345 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.720 with more. My comments next on not Guilty by Reason 346 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.720 of Insanity and also the comments of Clyde Bennett. This 347 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.840 morning during the arrangement the second arrangment of the murderer 348 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.879 of Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson, Bill Cunningham on seven hundred 349 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:36.679 WLW Billy Cunningham WI was set up the rest of 350 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:40.440 today's Big show after one o'clock today, arrange for Michael Wright, 351 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:42.879 the attorney that had the news conference yesterday with the 352 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.679 family of Ryan Hinton, to be here with us and 353 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:50.320 talk about his civil claims against the people of Cincinnati 354 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.480 and r Hamlety County relative to the killing of Ryan 355 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:56.480 Hinton at the hands of the police officer whose name 356 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:58.759 should be released sometime in the next few days. He 357 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:01.440 has nothing, in my view to be ashamed about whatsoever. 358 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:04.000 It's sad what happened, what had to occur because of 359 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:07.000 the behavior of the eighteen year old Ryan Hinton. But 360 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.640 Michael Wright is looking at it from a civil perspective. 361 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:14.000 He's with the Johnny Cochrane, the law firm, and he 362 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.480 also represented that Crawford young man that was shot in 363 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.680 a walmart in Beaver Creek, and that case has been 364 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:23.160 going on for about ten years. And these are difficult 365 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.599 cases because I would think that even in today's world, 366 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.839 the jury has great sympathy for a police officer and 367 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.440 the circumstances in which they find themselves making split second 368 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.359 life and debt decisions. And this case may hinge upon 369 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:40.880 a part of the videotape that may not exist, which 370 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.960 is the exact half a second before the shots were 371 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:47.119 fired by the police officer, where was the nine millimeter 372 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:51.920 weapon of Ryan Hinton? Pointed? I would think that Michael 373 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:55.359 Wright's going to focus on the fact that that Hinton 374 00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:00.720 was running away and was not, shall we say, his 375 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.119 view presenting a risk of imminent danger to the police officer. 376 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:06.559 Now I have a different perspective on that I'm going 377 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.920 to share with you. But nonetheless, I want to thank 378 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.279 Michael Wright for green to come on at one oh 379 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:16.559 seven today, who conducted the news conference yesterday with the 380 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.359 Hinton family and also after two o'clock day we have 381 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:23.359 a representative of the Shield coming on and I know 382 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.319 Chief Wallace and Amberley Village is one of the ones 383 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:30.079 that have the organization together that allows people like you 384 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:34.160 to make donations to a fund which is used to 385 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.839 assist the families of dead, injured, the first responders, and 386 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:40.720 other needs than one. So I'm going to talk with 387 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:44.279 that gentleman after two o'clock today to discuss how you 388 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.119 can get involved if that is your desire, because at 389 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:51.160 this point there was a scrubbing of a go fundme 390 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:56.319 page for Ryan Hinton and for I guess indirectly Rodney Hinton, 391 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.960 the father and the son who's dead, to let people 392 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:04.279 will contribute to that. You might recall Luigi Mangioni who 393 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:09.880 was charged and actually killed on video CEO of United Health. 394 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.279 They've raised about two million dollars in that go fund 395 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:17.240 me page is still open in the Empire State. Maybe Cincinnati, 396 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:19.880 Ohio is different, but that's been scrubbed and taken down. 397 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.160 But after two o'clock today there will be a means 398 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:25.160 and a method for you to show your appreciation to 399 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.480 the family of Larry Henderson, who gave his life for 400 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.039 you and I now let's get into several issues. Clyde 401 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:35.039