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Speaker 1: All start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester

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and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.

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Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied to come

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off the bitch. Hour two of Off the Bench Live

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from the Raising Kine Studio.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in nour number two v TV.

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Here live from the Raising Kine Studio. We did it.

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Everybody gets themselves a roundom falls who we went an

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hour without talking coaching search.

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Speaker 4: So we're doing it now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing it now.

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Speaker 3: But we did an hour, y'all, an.

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Speaker 2: Hour that has been Wayne playing.

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Speaker 3: Well, don't worry, I'm throwing it to Tata here because

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TA updated the document here.

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Speaker 2: Matt Campbell potentially to Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: A lot of smoke on it yesterday.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the guys that are hosting radio shows

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in the Little Rock area, we're throwing out that. Uh like,

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there's a lot of smoke around Matt Campbell.

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Speaker 4: I think that would be a home run higher. I mean,

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if I could find.

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Speaker 5: A D plus, it's Matt Campbell. He's been awesome at

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Iowa State. I mean we talk about it every off season.

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Is this the off season that Matt Campbell finally takes

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a job, and I mean maybe it is. I mean,

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if I'm Arkansas, I'm doing everything i can to make

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this higher.

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Speaker 4: I think it'd be awesome there.

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Speaker 2: Matt Campbell's the head coach that I was stated, I

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just look that up. Yeah, I saw his face. I agree,

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Matt Campbell. No, but seriously, he won farm against Historically,

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it's something like coach.

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Speaker 5: They only had one or two nine win seasons in

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their program of history for Campbell got there. He's working

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on number four potentially, so I mean he's been incredible.

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Speaker 3: There and he's been loyal. I mean he has been

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super loyal to Iowa State. I mean he's been enough

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for like NFL jobs and he stayed there. So look,

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that would be a great one. But yesterday I'm sitting

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there and I'm doing off campus, and I'm starting to

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think about all the jobs that are open outside of

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LSU and Florida, because those have been the loudest. I'm like,

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you know, Arkansas has been kind of quiet, and I

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started thinking about it's like, wait a minute, there's a

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guy that honestly should probably be in the same conversation

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as Lane Kiffin for some of these jobs that nobody's

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talking about. He's a guy that has Arkansas ties because

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he played quarterback from two thousand and two to two

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thousand and four there, And that's Rhett Lashley at SMU.

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RHTT Lashley's thirty seven and fifteen as a head coach

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at SMU, he went seven and six, eleven and three,

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eleven and three. In this year, he's eight and three,

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but six and one in conference playing. Still has a

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chance to make it to the ACC championship game and

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if you win that, you go to the playoff. He

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went to the playoff last year. He's twenty seven and

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four in conference play as a head coach. Like, why

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are we not talking about Rhett Lashley for some of

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these jobs? And may let's let's take LSU out of it.

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If I'm Arkansas and look s mu's got deep pockets,

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we've all been to that campus. Island Park hard to SMU,

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It'd be very hard to leave SMU. But for any job.

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Rhtt lastyear played quarterback at Arkansas. He's from Springdale, Arkansas.

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He coached at Arkansas like as soon as he basically

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got done after he went to like Springdale, Arkansas high

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school coaching for a little bit. I think Gus Malzama's

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maybe the head coach at the time, and it goes

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to Arkansas's a GA and he's been an offensive coordinator

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at Sanford, Arkansas State, Auburn, Yukon, SMU, Miami thirty seven

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and fifteen. You've got Arkansas ties. You led a team

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to a playoff. If I'm the Razorbacks, I know it

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would be hard, but I would try everything I could

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to get rhet Lastly.

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Speaker 6: I mean the way you laid it out, Yeah, I

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mean I don't. I hadn't heard his net at all

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brought up anywhere, seen it.

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Speaker 5: A little for Florida early early on, he was like

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one of the names brought up that outside of that now.

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Speaker 6: Right, I mean, I guess I don't know what is

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what's his contract position right now, like because there's.

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Speaker 2: Good extension that long ago, but like there's.

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Speaker 6: Good coaches all over the country that aren't on any

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of his list. And I'm assuming.

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Speaker 2: Because it's job security, it's contract security. I mean, he

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just signed one like within this year. I think it

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was a two year extension.

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Speaker 3: But again, like that doesn't really that doesn't, but it

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Speaker 2: I can't leave right through thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying it wouldn't be expensive, but if

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I'm already super expensive, Yeah, and I got the Walmart pockets.

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I got a Walmart logo literally on my field.

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Speaker 2: Well, man, you know what, I'm all find a way.

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Speaker 6: Let's say the Walmart money probably is tied with the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But he'd be a tough Really, I'm just saying, like, wait,

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did this lastly, fella? He actually play?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So okay, it's so funny when you no. I mean,

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would you like, would you be mad? Matt Jones was

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a unicorn. J I didn't I wouldn't have a lot

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of loyalty. I don't know what about you if you

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didn't play, I don't know. I don't know, I wouldn't

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wouldn't know.

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Speaker 4: He's also from the state of markets All too. I

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think that doesn't matter a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So like it was probably one of those things where it's, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Backing coaches at GA there. Maybe he grew up as

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an Arkansas State fan.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna leave SMU for Arkansas State?

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Speaker 2: No, not leaving I'm not. There's not many places I

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would leave SMU.

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Speaker 3: For you got a little biased because it's pretty close

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to your hometown. Yeah, but I'll back you up because

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here comes the chat. Oh you're from Dallas anyway. It's

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an incredible area.

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Speaker 2: It is an incredible area. It's like all the money you.

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Speaker 3: Want, and those people want to be good at football,

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real bad. And they were like better at NIL than

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anybody before. Nil was the e thing like forty years ago,

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so they already have proven that they can do it.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm just saying like, I'm surprised we haven't

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: I would assume that his resume is better than some

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people's that everybody's trying to get Lane.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's comfortable.

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Speaker 3: It's hard because he made the playoff and out of

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the a c C. I think o'll miss one obviously,

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out of the SEC's. I'm saying like he's got a

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great resume. I mean, twenty seven and four in conference play.

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Speaker 5: He's been a good coordinator in a bunch of spots too.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that, Yeah, probably Lane had at least moments

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everywhere he was outside of Oakland, and I don't think

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outside of Vince Lombardi, anybody could have won in Oakland

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Speaker 2: Vince would win. I don't think anybody was. It was bad.

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It was bad bad. I mean I played against him

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twice a year.

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Speaker 3: Is bad Latham really like completely. I mean, anywhere he was,

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you can find big moments, big wins, like Tennessee has,

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Speaker 2: Had some big wins.

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Speaker 3: Usc So Oakland, Yeah, yeah, Raiders, Mulligan, I give him mulligan,

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anybody that played there or coach there during that time.

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That's my big concern with wild Lane. That's what I

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wasn't concerned wild Lane is how much.

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Speaker 2: He moves is he is? He's an habitual itch scratcher.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, I agree, But he's been an old mess

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for six If you get six years out of Lane, Kiff,

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Speaker 2: I get. That's that's plenty. That that's the major going.

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Speaker 6: That's the only thing that the only thing out of anybody,

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I don't know, I'm not I would never be worried

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about him leaving to another school. I would be worried

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about him. Seeing man. One time I failed, right, was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you're saying, like like when Saban left, he

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Speaker 3: I have to have to. But you're right, like six

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years with a like coach is I'll tell you hell

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I am. I've always you know, since it started, I

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always if Lane's the coach, I've been excited, no question

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Speaker 2: I think he's a great football coach. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I get giddy watching that guy set up an offensive drive.

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It's it's awesome, it's great, it's poetry emotion. After having

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to watch l s U versus Western Kentucky and I'm

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not trying to be funny, but the way that we

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set offensive football back years, I've never won a link

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if in more, after watching that game, that was hard

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for me as an offensive player to sit there and

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watch and go through and call. It was frustrating to

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Speaker 2: Jake, you know how much I love watching film. Yeah,

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I love it. I love watching film. I can watch

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Speaker 3: I can due outside of your family and card breaks.

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Speaker 6: I think it's your third most love thing. I love

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it and I couldn't. I didn't watch halfway into the

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third quarter because like I got the.

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Speaker 3: Heb gus yeah, I don't mind saying it was the

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toughest game I've ever had to sit there and call

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how many pencils you break? I went to penns because

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I knew the pencils would be a bad idea, don't

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break pins. But like my move, my move was like

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put it right here and see how I'm like squeezing

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the top, like this sum's going this way, the middle

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figures going down. Just continue like just doing that, just

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doing that, singers like.

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Speaker 2: The camera doesn't even do it justice. You got to

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Speaker 4: It looks like he's holding a crayon. It really does ya.

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Speaker 7: I didn't even watch the full game. I started playing

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Speaker 2: Know what, and also Candy Crush.

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Speaker 3: And I'll give I'll give my guy, Chris Blair. I'm

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gonna give our voice to the Tigers a lot of credit.

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Like he gives me a lot of freedom, yea, the

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kind of say what I see And it was frustrating

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and like he was allowing me to kind of dive

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into it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think anybody in that building over there

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either would say anything. No, right, like there's no way

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they could. Yeah, there's no way they can. And I

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got I think all the truths that.

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Speaker 3: We went straight passes and not having a running back

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carry the ball against the one hundred and eighth ranked

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Speaker 2: No, there's nobody to be like, you know, it's a

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good playing and like you.

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Speaker 6: Can watch said And the reason why I like to

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watch film is because you're watching scheme, you're watching individual matchups,

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You're you're watching two cord, you're watching a chess match

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between two different coordinators try to trick each other, try

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to fool each other, try to disguise things, and then

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you get to see people kicking each other's ass like

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that's like it's it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful sport. And then you watch it.

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Speaker 6: This is one of those films you can't watch it

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be like, man, we left so much out there because

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I do forget shout up to Chris in the

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I forget that too.

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Speaker 2: Are you really were on camera?

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Speaker 3: I forget sometimes what game was it that might have

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been old miss maybe Vanderbilt man I gave. I gave

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a good old like through my pencil like this, you know,

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just kind of like tossed it like in frustration, and

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then like good like hard open hand slam on the desk.

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that YouTube stream, and then.

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Speaker 6: Like you're writing your game notes down and it's just

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like four letter word after four letter word.

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Speaker 5: Were you were you a real a real hand hit

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the table mad or were you like a Brian Kelly No,

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Speaker 7: You know, LSU is making it hard for Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: Bro that I did that.

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Speaker 7: I just don't realize what he feels like. He's Oh,

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Speaker 4: From a loser to a weekend winner.

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Speaker 7: You winter what because you still went out.

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Speaker 3: There and made that about it, which I mean, I'm

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not trying to be fun. I wonder which job that's

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what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: I just don't even feel like maybe.

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Speaker 2: Because right now Penn State all they want.

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Speaker 7: The same person, but older.

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Speaker 6: He is contractually obligated if he is terminated to do

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his due diligence and in good faith try to seek

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another job. And they're trying to posture and say, I

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can't do that because you're not telling me.

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Speaker 2: What is happening. Right LU isn't the wrong. LSU's in

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the wrong on this.

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Speaker 7: No, for sure, But it's also just lawyers being lawyers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's lawyers being lawyers right now. But he has

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to go try to find another job in good faith. Now,

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who's gonna what metric are they determining? Like in good faith?

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I can't do that. You want me to go find

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another job, can't do it? So you're telling me I'm fired,

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but I'm not fired.

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Speaker 7: They officially fired him last or yeah, last week on Friday.

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Speaker 2: But with cause or just because.

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Speaker 7: Just because they don't like him.

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Speaker 2: Because they don't like.

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Speaker 7: Him because he was losing.

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Speaker 4: You were talking about what job he cause?

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Speaker 7: To answer your question, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know why this is just this has happened since

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the day Brian Kelly got fired at LSU, the fake

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firing the Sunday.

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Speaker 4: He keeps getting connected to Michigan State.

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Speaker 5: Everyone keeps saying in national circles, if Michigan State opens up,

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Brian Kelly will take that job. He apparently likes that job.

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They are three and eight right now under Jonathan Smith,

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not looking like they're gonna go anywhere anytime soon. So

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if that job comes open, every single person I've heard

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mentioned that job, first name out of their mouth has

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been Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 6: For whatever reason, did it look like Brian Kelly wanted

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to continue coaching, did not.

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Speaker 2: Hold key.

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Speaker 7: That's what I told like, That's what I said after like,

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he's trying to get that full amount because if I

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were him, like I would just retire with that full amount.

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Speaker 4: Was he sixty four?

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Speaker 3: Now, these coaches are built way different than.

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Speaker 2: You and I.

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Speaker 7: I just don't know if Brian Kelly's built that way though, right, No, No,

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to your point, I'm like, so I do radio with

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Jimbo every single Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: That man has accomplished everything you can accomplish, got a

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national championship as an assist and a head coach. He

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got seventy something million dollars. When I say that man

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wants to coach so bad. Yeah, so now he's not

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gonna take any job, but like he wants to coach,

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like he's got an itch and he's like, man, I

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just like there's things that I know now that I

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want to do with some of the things that have

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changed in college football. He's like, I promise you, I've

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got a plan in place, and like I'm like sitting

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there thinking, like, coach, you've done every like you've gotten.

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Speaker 2: To the top of the mountain, right, You've.

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Speaker 3: Got seventy something Mean, this man loves to be outdoors, hunting, fishing.

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There's a lot of people that would just go do

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that forever. But he just there's something like he's a coach.

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There's something that like his fathers him that he wants

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to and Jimbo's like and for Jimbo's resume, Jimbo's one

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hundred and twenty eight and forty eight as a head coach.

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He was forty five and twenty five at an m Yeah,

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twenty seven and twenty one in sec play. Now this

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is not for here, so please don't go to Tiger

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droppings and Secester's trying to get Jimbo at l shoot

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and not trying to get that at all. It wouldn't

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be the right move for anybody. But there's a lot

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of jobs that are open right now and all these

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candidates that people are talking about. Jimbo's resume is ten

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times what James Franklin's is as far as actually winning something,

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it's just conference championships, national championships.

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Speaker 2: It's just so.

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Speaker 3: Funny, like people Vinia text running to hire James Franklin

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and Jimo was just sitting over there wanting to coach,

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and so coaching searches like to me, is like a

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lot of them don't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 7: While I understand that, I actually like I can get that.

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Brian Kelly was like taking vacations during by week, So

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I just, oh, he's built the same as a Jimbo

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Fisher or like a James Franklin.

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Speaker 3: Came and Jimbo would never be distant cousins to each

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other and how they go about their business.

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Speaker 5: Well, then think about James Franklin. He went on game

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day literally like four days after he was fired. He said,

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we're gonna win somewhere else he walked away from forty

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million dollars last weekend, like he was owed forty nine million.

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Speaker 2: He's no. O nine million because.

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Speaker 5: He wanted to bet on himself at Virginia Tech. So

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like to y'all's point, yeah, a lot of coaches are

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built like that. But when Kelly got that big contract,

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he just seemed like he was like, Hey, it's LSU.

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The last three coaches here have won national championships. I

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got a cushy deal. I can just cruise my way

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to win it. I think he wanted to win. Everybody

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wants to win. I don't think he did the things

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necessary in order to win.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: I might be in the minority here, and y'all can

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y'all can tell me if I am, and in the chat,

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please tell me if I'm wrong or if y'all disagree

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with me. LSU, he's a pay that man his buyout

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and get rid of it. Yes, they need you fired

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him because he lost the football. Yes, okay, you might

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have other things on him. I don't know what you got.

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You apparently you think he got something that's not why

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you fired him. They might have like all added up

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and you put it in the cookie jar and it

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like it.

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Speaker 2: Was part of it.

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Speaker 6: But you you fired him because you know he lost

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the football. Pay that man what you signed up for

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and be done with it LSU, like Brian Kelly did.

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So I'm glad he's gone as a head coach. He

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did a lot of cringey things like I did a

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lot of things that that came out after the firing

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that I'm I'm glad it's over with. Glad that experiment

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is done and onto the next next thing. I get it.

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But you signed a contract with him. Pay the man

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that money, yeah, and move on.

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 6: I hate that he gets it, but like it's a

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contracted place. I don't try to get around it. I

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think it's dumb.

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Speaker 7: I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: Obviously they think they got something. But like this whole

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oh we didn't fire you wasn't official, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, especially in the break, but nobody appreciates optics anymore.

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Speaker 4: Just it looks really right.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't care what you try to spend. Then

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maybe they do.

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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know. I'm not a not an attorney.

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But you fired him because he wasn't good at being

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head football coach for LSU. Nothing else is the reason

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we find him, because I promise you if he was winning,

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they'd overlook anything you do, not anything.

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Speaker 2: I take that back, but a lot.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, no, whatever it is to get past this and

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to move forward, Taylor, I see that clock.

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Speaker 2: Brouh like whatever that is. I'm with you, like, get

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it done, Like you need to move on.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to be like in the headlines today

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on ESPN dot com, it's yet again, it's another story

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about another turn in this coaching search and how it's

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all played out.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, like whatever whatever, moving on looks like

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do it? Yeah, I mean, get it done. Already offered

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him thirty million. It's like admission of guilt there.

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Speaker 3: It's the least like right now, the top headlines ESPN

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dot com attorneys LSU, Sawga hindering Kelly Job.

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Speaker 2: Can you see just paying the man money?

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Speaker 3: Apparently you got it, all right, Taylor, take a break

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more OTV when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Off the bench.

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Speaker 2: All right, Go to go Tommy.

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Speaker 3: G E A u X Tommy's wothwy dot com. When

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you go to the website, you'll clearly see the difference

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what sets them apart. You'll see the gallery of work

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that they've done here in the greater Baton Rouge area.

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You'll see testimonials of past clients. You're gonna love working

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with Tommy and the team. You're also going to see

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the awards that they stack year after year after year.

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Twenty twenty five Advocate Best Windows that went to Tommy's Windows,

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doors and Siding, and I mean incredible, incredible people. Tommy

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remember the Golden Band from Tiger Land. That's what brought

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him here to Baton Rouge. He is Lshue in Louisiana,

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through and through. Go Tommy dot com, did you play neck?

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Speaker 2: Probably? Probably not a big deal. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 6: So if you have a project happening, whether it's a

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little renovation, maybe you're building a home, maybe you just

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have to replace a couple of things, make sure Tommy's

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is one of those contracts you called to just to

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talk about the project. Let him see the expertise, let

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him give you a pricing, let him show you why.

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He's Angie's Lift Super Service Award winner every year since

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twenty sixteen. So reliable, integrity and effiction, right there, go, Tommy.

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Speaker 8: Dot com blocked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Off the Bench.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB. Kill me up on

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the next segment OTB mailbags, So go ahead and get

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your questions inside to buy you for chat.

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Speaker 2: I just I saw this headline right here on this triday.

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I didn't know Joe Burt set the story. Yeah, versus

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the Raven and let's go Thanksgiving. Let's go. So he's

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a little turkey, watch a little Joe Burrow. I think

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that's the late game too, right, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 5: It goes Lions, Packers, Cowboys, Chiefs, Ingles, Raven.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good, pretty little slate for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Records not great, but they're getting Joe Burrow back. Super

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fun for us. Yeah, friends and family, friends and family game.

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All right.

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Speaker 3: I do want to continue some of this coaching search

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talk and again like we haven't dived really an l shoe,

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Like I just want to look at it from everyone's perspective,

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because we talked about you know, Matt Campbell potentially being

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a candidate at Arkansas. Wise lastly not a candidate at Arkansas.

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We talked about LSU. Just hey, finally moving on whatever

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it takes from Brian Kelly, get that over with. So

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you know, he can go look for a job and

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you can hire your new head coach, and that can

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be that for Penn State. Hey, Eli Drinkwood's Brian day Ball.

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A couple of names here, maybe Pat Fitzgerald, which would

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actually be a great hire book.

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Speaker 4: Throughout Pat Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday, Booker McFarlane said, look, this is a guy that's

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had a lot of success.

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Speaker 4: Here and a lot with a little and that was

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his point.

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Speaker 5: He's like he had success in the Big Ten at

474
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Northwestern higher Pats Fitzgerald.

475
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Speaker 4: Brian Dable is the name they keep bringing up. That's

476
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the choice.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I go that way. I just.

478
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Speaker 3: I want somebody who's been a college head coach, just

479
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personally what I think the game is completely completely different

480
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than when Brian da Ball was an offensive coordinator for

481
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a little bit at Alabama. I think college coaches are

482
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college coaches, NFL coaches or NFL coaches. The fact that

483
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we can kind of own one hand tell you the

484
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ones that have had success in both.

485
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think going to college to the NFL is

486
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much more difficult than the other way around.

487
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Speaker 3: The greatest college, our greatest approach that we've ever seen

488
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in the NFL struggle.

489
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Speaker 2: He's also gone off the deep end.

490
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Speaker 6: So I mean he's at a he's at an adult

491
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cheerleader event, which, okay, I'll see that team that she

492
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is one way?

493
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Speaker 7: Are we talking about Jordan's And.

494
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Speaker 5: Yes, it's like thirty five year old men competing in

495
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a competition.

496
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Speaker 4: The team in front of them were like eighteen.

497
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Speaker 3: H Yeah that so let's not teach their own active

498
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to each their own.

499
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Speaker 7: That's like people playing intramural softball. Like I don't really

500
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have an issue with.

501
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Speaker 3: That, but but like if I'm playing in a real softball,

502
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I don't think Katie's coming to watch.

503
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Speaker 7: That's fair.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and Katie's not fifty years older than it's true.

505
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Speaker 7: That is also true?

506
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Speaker 2: True?

507
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Speaker 7: See that? Also, wait, is this what you were talking about?

508
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The girl the sister in law or Bill Belichick's daughter

509
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in law like went off on her appearance.

510
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Speaker 2: I did not know, Yeah, I did not.

511
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Speaker 7: And she's like saying that she's she's saying that she's

512
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assuming Pablo Tory.

513
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Speaker 2: I did see that. He does talk about it, Belichick thing.

514
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It is weird. He talks about them a lot.

515
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Speaker 7: He talks about them, and just like I don't.

516
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Speaker 2: Know, I don't.

517
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Speaker 3: I don't only clips I ever see because I don't

518
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follow him or anything, but it finds this way to

519
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me is him talking about Belichick.

520
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Speaker 7: What was really weird was when he found her in

521
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the stands at a game and like years ago, like

522
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five years ago or something like that, and it was

523
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like the panoramic of all the fans in the entire

524
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stadium and he found Jordan's It's weird. Wow, it's creepy,

525
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a little bit like a little too obsessed.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just, like I said, Pablo calmed down every

527
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time that I see him. That's what he's talking about.

528
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So well, we got to destride her there.

529
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sorry, it's funny. Look when you look at the picture,

530
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these guys are in their mid thirties.

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Speaker 2: Mid thirties.

532
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Speaker 3: My guy on the right top right, he's he's with me,

533
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he's my Gundy at least, and then like he's a man,

534
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he's forty.

535
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Speaker 5: The girls in the pink bows look like significantly younger.

536
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Speaker 2: And then they're like some videos, it looks like they

537
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are pretty good. They're doing some moves. Sure they're good

538
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out there.

539
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Speaker 6: If you're not Bill Belichick was there watching his girlfriend anyway.

540
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Speaker 2: Weird like, so Squag I destribed it.

541
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Speaker 6: So what I was trying to say was it, I

542
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think it's easier to go from NFL to college and

543
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college the NFL. Because let's take Bill Belichick aside, that's

544
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an outlier. He was bad in the NFL after in

545
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the last couple of years. And but if you took

546
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a innovative offensive mind or defensive mind in the NFL,

547
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000
what schematically, what people do in the NFL is ten

548
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times better than what they do in college. The game,

549
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,359
NFL football game is a better product than college football. Now,

550
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I know people love college football, but I'm just saying

551
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:04,039
from a x's and o's performance standpoint, it's better.

552
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Speaker 2: So I look around.

553
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Speaker 6: The college football landscape and all the offenses being run,

554
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and I see a lot of clapp counts. I see

555
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a lot of fake claps. You don't see that in

556
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the NFL. You see real you see real football. You

557
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,200
see guys get un to the center. You see balanced attacks.

558
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If you took a someone like Ben Johnson or Kyle

559
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,240
Shanahan or Josh McDaniels, if you took them and you

560
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,279
took an offensive mind, let's say, well, that only works

561
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in one spot, right, I got it. You take them

562
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and you put them into a talented team with a

563
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lot of talent, They're going to destroy teams with those

564
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offensive schemes.

565
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Speaker 3: Like college, could a college play this is me just

566
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,079
I don't it's rhetorical. Could a college get pick up

567
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their schemes?

568
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, could they pick it up. Yeah. I mean.

569
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Speaker 3: You gotta teach it the right way. And maybe it's

570
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a little bit dumb down, but like.

571
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Speaker 6: I, I go, and I was doing this before before

572
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the show, and at some point during the this show,

573
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I'd like to get to it.

574
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Speaker 2: I was looking up the passing charts of LSU yep.

575
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Speaker 6: And looking at how how few times they throwed over

576
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the middle, and then I was looking at like, who

577
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640
I think are some of the top offensive mines and

578
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offenses in the NFL and looking at their passing chart,

579
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and I'd like to just kind of go through that

580
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website at some point today and just like click through

581
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different weeks of the year, different teams and LSU different

582
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,880
weeks of the year, and just and show you.

583
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Speaker 2: And that's all because it's it's scheme.

584
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 6: There's not a lot of there's not a lot of

585
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top tier college teams that are going under center.

586
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Speaker 2: These days, it's even on.

587
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 6: The one line, even on the one yard line in

588
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the NFL is probably doing it more now than they

589
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:51,839
were doing it ten years ago, more consistently in the

590
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best offenses. So I'd like to take a look at it,

591
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to look at that passing chart. But I think if

592
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you took someone that's like currently like in their prime

593
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as coaching and had a good offensive mine or defensive mind,

594
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and you put them at the college level and you

595
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:08,839
implemented that instead of the you know, copy and paste,

596
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,759
clap count type offenses that you see around college football

597
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,960
right now, then I think it'd be a difference.

598
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Speaker 2: Man.

599
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Speaker 6: I was even looking at some of the top offenses

600
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in college, like, there's not a ton of offenses attack

601
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,519
in the middle of the field, which is wild to me.

602
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,519
Speaker 2: In college.

603
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Speaker 6: Maybe that's why you're starting to see a lot of

604
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,519
really good defenses emerge in college football.

605
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,799
Speaker 3: In college to not attack the middle of the field,

606
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:38,720
it is the Grand Canyon college with how far the hash.

607
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Speaker 6: Linebackers and safeties just don't understand their role well enough

608
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to cover the full middle of the field. And you're like, well,

609
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,480
it's such a tight area. Well, no, it's not No,

610
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,839
you got so many different levels. There's so much more

611
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:55,759
windows and levels that you can attack as opposed to outside.

612
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Because the ball's in the air less time, it's easier

613
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,920
to throw to the quarterback.

614
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Speaker 2: You can see it better. M hm.

615
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Speaker 3: He know its being really quiet on all this coaching

616
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,799
search front the Auburn Tigers, and they're typically loud.

617
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Speaker 2: Quiet.

618
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,559
Speaker 3: We're pretty loud over here, pretty loud over here.

619
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Speaker 2: In Bouton Rouge. But Auburn's typically loud.

620
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Speaker 3: They were trying to hire Lane Kiffing like two years ago,

621
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,119
and you know, Kiffin was there till the finish line

622
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,920
sat to say it old miss, and that's when they

623
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,920
go with Hugh Freeze.

624
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Speaker 2: Not a lot coming from the planes right now.

625
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Speaker 3: I think it's actually a good thing for them, because,

626
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like I said, they've messed it up when they've been loud.

627
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Speaker 4: M John Summer on to Auburn seems to be the

628
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popular choice right now.

629
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Speaker 2: Oh.

630
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Speaker 6: Someone makes a great point, mister Brown Williams in the

631
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chat here to your he's arguing with you, Jake, saying

632
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,200
you need head coaching experience, which I don't believe that

633
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:05,720
you do. Kirby Smart, Dan Lenning and Ryan Day Clark Lee,

634
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:09,519
Marcus Frieven, Davis, Swainey, Dillingham. I mean everybody was a

635
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:11,519
coordinator at some point. Everybody's the first time head coach

636
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:13,640
at some point. Yeah, those guys were all in college.

637
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,400
That was my point. It wasn't that he didn't have.

638
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,839
My point was like college experience too, Like all of

639
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,480
those guys you just mentioned were college coaches. I just

640
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,440
think at some point it's gonna be it's gonna matter less,

641
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especially as people continue to get paid more.

642
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Speaker 3: And you can definitely be a coordinator in college and

643
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,440
get a college job. My whole point was he hasn't

644
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,000
been a Why Why is that in the college game?

645
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:43,079
Why does it matter? Why's what matter? I think I

646
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:44,799
just think they're different. I think there I think there's

647
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pro coaches. I think there's college coaches like we can count,

648
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,480
like I said, on one hand of the guys that

649
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,759
have had success, definitely is but there's there can damb

650
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Pete Carroll, Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer. Yeah, there's there's guys

651
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,319
in the pros that don't want anything to do with

652
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:00,000
college football.

653
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,359
Speaker 2: Became Jim Harbaugh. Gosh, how do I forget him? Uh? Coaching?

654
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:13,160
My team. That's that's about it.

655
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 6: Because a lot of pro coaches do not want to

656
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:22,000
coach in college. But there's some say it can't be done.

657
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:25,079
I'm not speaking in absolutes here. Again, there's been examples.

658
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I'm just saying it wouldn't be my first choice for them.

659
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

660
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,279
Speaker 3: John Summer All grew up in Huntsville, by the way,

661
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:39,799
in Alabama. Nice little city, although he played at Kentucky.

662
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240
So maybe he's waiting on Mark Stoops to get fired.

663
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,279
Speaker 4: Kentucky's a good job if you can get it.

664
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:50,119
Speaker 2: Is it a long Mark Stoops has been there longest

665
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,839
tenure in NANTYC Bob, I think it's this thing in

666
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,000
tu Lane for as long as he wants. Why not.

667
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,079
Grass isn't always it's actually blue up there.

668
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:06,839
Speaker 3: It's true, a lot of blue grass. It's a blue

669
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,279
grass all right. We'll take a break when we come back.

670
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OTB mailbag here on.

671
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Speaker 2: You guessed it. OTB off the bench.

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Speaker 3: Since it's always a great time to go for dose.

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It was a tailgating weekend at home this last week

674
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and last one of the year. Hopefully you took our

675
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,039
advice and did go for dose. You know, a really

676
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:29,680
good time.

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Speaker 2: Though Thanksgiving Thanksgiving, Oh.

678
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Speaker 3: My gosh, you got all the great food, got a

679
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:41,359
little full belly. Sit down, relax, get on the couch,

680
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,200
turn on one of the three great football games we've

681
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got coming up in the NFL. Ice cooled dose Sekis

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makes a utopic.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you if all or anything like

684
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us on Thanksgiving, like the holiday, it's got Christmas meal too.

685
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It would like to bring it. Bust out the fancy

686
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plates and the fancy glasses. So it now you're time

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to really church it up a little bit. Gets your

688
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dose Sechies, Pour it in one of them fancy glasses,

689
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make sure it's ice cold, make sure you cut yourself

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a fancy line and put it in there a little

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Mexican logger. Hey, Thanksgiving holiday week, it's a great time

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for a beer. When you do it, make sure it's

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do Sechies.

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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the

695
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bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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707
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Speaker 2: We call that an amalgam. Then I get a hot tub.

708
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You get that too.

709
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Speaker 3: Yes, you can check out the financing options as well,

710
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right there on the homepage Russell Pools dot com Russell

711
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Pooles dot com. All right, let's get too little O

712
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,559
TB mailbag.

713
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,039
Speaker 2: I help this special delivery for the bench and look

714
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,840
it is marked most urgent. We'll be writing to you

715
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,920
the internet.

716
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: What the is the internet?

717
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: Hasha?

718
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: I go to the mailbag. If it's not Lane, go

719
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,960
around the room.

720
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: Who is it? I guess? Who? Do you? Who? Would

721
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,360
you want? Would you want to be the second choice?

722
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:54,239
We're turnover chaining it right now, Kenny Dillingham, you can

723
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:54,840
still do it.

724
00:35:55,079 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 6: You know it's boring though, uh hip Kelly? Okay, he's available.

725
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, really recently available.

726
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, went up as a coordinator of the coach.

727
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,119
Speaker 6: He's just getting paid six million dollars per year to

728
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:18,719
be an offensive coordinator with the that's wild behavior.

729
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 7: I like Dillingham, but I think I'm gonna go drink wits.

730
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: Dylanhmm would actually be my choice for sure.

731
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, del had just to go different. I'm gonna go drink.

732
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean kinda kind of been.

733
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,199
Speaker 5: I'll switch to John sommerl I like John predictable.

734
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:47,159
Speaker 4: Okay, so is it Tom Herman Tom Hermit answer?

735
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,119
Speaker 5: The answer is Kenny Dillingham. Like for me from like

736
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,000
all of us, Laundra likes dilling Ham.

737
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: I think I think t O TV would fully get

738
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,960
behind Kenny Dillingham.

739
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's not.

740
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: Lame, Yes, I would get behind regardless.

741
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, for sure, can I say that? Yes?

742
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:10,639
Speaker 6: Taylor like also mimics most of LSU fan base, So

743
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:16,360
he doesn't like drink, right, but I could get behind

744
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:16,880
that as well.

745
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,119
Speaker 4: It's not that I don't like drink as a coach,

746
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,960
I just I don't know.

747
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,119
Speaker 6: There's two things that I think most LSU fan bases

748
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,559
one one is to maintain the current defensive staff, which

749
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:29,679
you would do, and the second run the football, which

750
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,119
he can do.

751
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,039
Speaker 2: That you wanted LSU to be able to do. Yes,

752
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,760
he's kind of he kind of looks like a nerd,

753
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:39,920
got it.

754
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:43,199
Speaker 7: But if you're a nerd, then you're smart and then

755
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,079
you're good.

756
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,119
Speaker 3: At My last thing about drink, because I don't feel

757
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,920
like you can get in that today. He is not

758
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480
what he looks like. I'll just I've had drink probably

759
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:55,440
more than any coach.

760
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Ever.

761
00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: As far as interviews, that's my thing, Like, you know,

762
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,119
not necessarily as a nerd, and you know him a

763
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,719
lot better than me, just you know when I hear

764
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,639
him and all that you were talking. You laid out

765
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:10,199
the day after Kelly got fired. You wanted a fiery guy.

766
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,360
You wanted a guy this this, this like to me

767
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,639
just outside looking in, he doesn't portray that. I like

768
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:17,960
him as a coach. I just don't know well he

769
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,599
would fit. That's that's my only thing.

770
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 6: I think if the people that are said to be available,

771
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,039
he would be my third probably.

772
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,159
Speaker 7: Peter Burns said that like whenever he asks like people

773
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,599
will tell him like the sneaky, most physical team that

774
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:33,440
we've played.

775
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: As Missouri, it's on tape. Yeah, for sure.

776
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 7: I feel like if you're a physical team, then you

777
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,760
need a fiery coach and you need somebody who's not

778
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,280
a nerd, And I like, maybe he looks like one,

779
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,360
but do we know that he's a nerd?

780
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 6: Like I know, but yeah, I heard Peter say that too,

781
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,960
and he was like, I talked to coaches all over

782
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,000
the country and tell me one coach that's a little

783
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:53,760
bit under the radar, and they're all like it.

784
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,119
Speaker 3: Eli, Yeah, I mean you go talk to Blake Baker

785
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:58,840
and Jake Olsen and Kevin Peoples.

786
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: He again, those pod guess what he wears glasses?

787
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 7: Unacceptable? Looks like a nerd. But are we talking about

788
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,119
Kurt Signetti's over here like winning and he google him

789
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,280
he looks like a nerd.

790
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: Too in a season just like my dad.

791
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 5: The weirdest part about the whole drink whin's glasses thing

792
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,599
like it doesn't really wear them that much.

793
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 7: I'm not I have glasses on right now. I'm I

794
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,719
can promise you I'm not a nerd.

795
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,559
Speaker 6: It's like this is a I'm not smart coaching search,

796
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:28,960
is not another teen movie.

797
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got paint on her overall, take them all.

798
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,920
He's wearing glasses. I love that movie.

799
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:45,119
Speaker 3: Man, just get some contacts, uh from our guy the

800
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,840
Rick hashtag mailbag. Has Jake retired the T Bob yoga

801
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,320
sweatshirt since he abandoned us? If so, can I have it?

802
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,679
Speaker 2: Yes?

803
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: Rick, you can have the T Bob yoga sweatshirt. It

804
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,760
was your design. I just put it on a sweatshirt. Yeah,

805
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,639
you can absolutely have the sweatshirt. We'll we'll find a

806
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,639
way to get that to you. I don't wear it anymore. No,

807
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:11,039
T Bob is gone. T Bob Harley newer. Uh make

808
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:12,559
it easy, justin.

809
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Hashtag O tob mail bag.

810
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,159
Speaker 3: Why is Anthony Iinsen sponsored by a different hydration company?

811
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 7: Oh, you didn't get in on that baseball player.

812
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,159
Speaker 2: Familis should not get in the ions and bid anymore.

813
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,039
Speaker 7: I guess who sponsors my high ends in It was

814
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right there.

815
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 3: Wow, you need to hire a landro you really do.

816
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 7: I told you are important to me.

817
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,159
Speaker 2: I hire Andre Now you stop. That wasn't no, you

818
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:45,599
need to hire her. So you don't do that. It's

819
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:47,159
pretty good. Now if she would have said it, you

820
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,400
would have left. So he would have sponsored About what

821
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,880
trash company is he sponsored by?

822
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:53,039
Speaker 7: Probably not?

823
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,039
Speaker 3: Probably the one that's says it's a liquid, but it's

824
00:40:59,039 --> 00:40:59,480
a powder.

825
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: We're the one.

826
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 9: They just sponsored all of the su I don't know

827
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:09,800
that one. The body armor no power. Oh yeah, body

828
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,639
armor power though.

829
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 6: I guess they they're they're both owned back Coke, okay,

830
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,079
and they're both not very not good.

831
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,079
Speaker 3: Enough hashtag go to the mail bag favorite Thanksgiving side.

832
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,559
Speaker 4: I mean, are we considering everything else side of turkey?

833
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Of said? Yeah? Uh not dressing corn bad dressing certainly

834
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,039
be a side, So that's great.

835
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, green bean casserole for me, Yeah, it's a good one.

836
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:40,000
Mind's either the dressing, the mashed potatoes, or the green

837
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,199
bean casserole.

838
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,159
Speaker 7: Yeah. Mines between green bean casserole and mashed potato.

839
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, mines between sweet potata castrole.

840
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,159
Speaker 4: I do love it, sweet potato casserole, green bean.

841
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 6: I guess gravy is not considered a side. It's more

842
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,719
of like accessory. There is a there's a river of

843
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,199
gravy that it connects all of my plate, all of

844
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:09,159
my you like address, it connects everything, and I just don't.

845
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:10,960
I don't think I even rather eat one thing. A

846
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:12,840
drip drop is who Anthony?

847
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,159
Speaker 7: I never heard of him.

848
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: Again, never heard of her? I have Wow, you're hurt.

849
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:25,880
I'll just say wow.

850
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold the mayo this is the most Caucasian sides

851
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,679
I've ever heard.

852
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 7: You are Caucasians.

853
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 5: I mean those are Thanksgiving suns, back and cheese. Another one,

854
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,719
I mean these are things are giving.

855
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,519
Speaker 2: This is what the Pilgrims ate.

856
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,079
Speaker 4: We didn't choose them. We you see them every year.

857
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: H What else is?

858
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Speaker 1: So?

859
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,599
Speaker 2: I was trying to rack my brain? How do we

860
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,079
have we unlike this thing?

861
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

862
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:02,599
Speaker 2: Oh?

863
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,559
Speaker 3: Piccadilly does have good collar greens. All right, take a

864
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,360
break for OTB when we come.

865
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,159
Speaker 1: Back off the bench.

866
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,719
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's probably one of the most importance we

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can tell one most important things we can say about

879
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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench, all right.

892
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: Welcome back in OTB.

893
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:47,519
Speaker 3: When do we we think we'll have a decision on

894
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:52,760
the lane train. We think Friday night, Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon.

895
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,039
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Probably leak, That's what I'm saying, like it

896
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:55,599
always does.

897
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 7: But oh well, did y'all see yesterday they took it

898
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,000
down immediately, but the revel lsu revelly accidentally published an

899
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,760
article saying that late they probably had it out there ready,

900
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,800
just they accidentally published it.

901
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:14,519
Speaker 5: I know that would make me freak out, and their

902
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:19,159
past coaching surges hour before kickoff, lank Kvanel issue gets announced.

903
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:23,119
Speaker 7: Well, I thought on the thing, Keith Carter said Saturday,

904
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,199
he did for sure.

905
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: I feel like Saturday for kickoff?

906
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,559
Speaker 2: Question for it hypothetical.

907
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 6: What if he decides, you know what, I'm not ready

908
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,960
to decide on Saturday. And he said, you know what,

909
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,320
I'm going to keep coaching this team because I'm not

910
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,360
ready to make a decision.

911
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,679
Speaker 2: What does ole Miss do that calls their bluff? I

912
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:43,400
don't think they do.

913
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: Anything they let them coach.

914
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:50,199
Speaker 2: Do they have the I don't think they do. I

915
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,639
don't think they I don't know.

916
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 7: I don't think so.

917
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:54,159
Speaker 2: But detrimental.

918
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 7: But there's been like talks of like the players not

919
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,719
being happy with him at all.

920
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: And there's also like Trinidad Chambliss coming out and saying like, no,

921
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,760
we're going right forward, let's go ride.

922
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,519
Speaker 6: He made a really good point yesterday Lane did saying like, guys,

923
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,760
I don't think you'll realize how like the players don't

924
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,199
care as much about this as like you think they

925
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,559
do this day age because everybody's kind of looking at

926
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:17,880
professional football, everyone's kind of looking out for themselves, like

927
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,400
they're trying to get the best deal. They understand the

928
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,800
business side of things, like it's not the same and

929
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,599
we all know that we all missed, like the old

930
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:27,599
days of college. It's not the same. It's not going back.

931
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
See you can get behind it, guys. It's a business.

932
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,320
It's professional football.

933
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, way way, way, way way more than it

934
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,920
ever has been before.

935
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,519
Speaker 2: So we talk about that, talk about a lot of things.

936
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:42,480
We got another hour left, Oh TB off the bench.

