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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now here is your host? All right, weekend,

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I gotta say this with a rematch that I think

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we're all looking forward to. Even if we're in the

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United States. The fight is in the UK as friz

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U Bank Junior and Connor Benn are already teeing it

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up again for the second time this year. We're ready

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to talk about that fight. Plus, we've got a Mexican

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fight card that has Raphael Espinoza, the featherweight champion of

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the WBO, headlining, as well as some other intriguing fights.

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We're ready to preview all of those and the WBC

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and w Rayfield. Did you put WBA regular light heavyweight

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champion on my script? You did? We have David Benavitez

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on the program and Big Dan talk to him. We

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got all of that fight news and more. I am

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merely the somewhat competent host. TJ. Reeves, Hello, Big Dan

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Rayfield some action this weekend, and David Benavidez on the pod.

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Speaker 2: And Anthony Joshua Jake.

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Speaker 1: Paul Oh, I thought you assured me that this wasn't

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gonna happen because Joshua would eradicate. That's my word, Jake Paul.

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But now we're onto this. We're gonna talk about that

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here with that? Thank you for

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final I'll tell you what we're doing here. We're previewing

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Mason interview, the video of it that you did with him.

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He's fighting on this read card coming next Saturday, the

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twenty second of November. See that interview on the YouTube page.

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You and I actually, let's go ahead and tell the

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peeps you and I are going to be live on

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YouTube on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page after whatever

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happens this. If you bank Junior Bin rematch somewhere, would

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you gus six pm Eastern hour something like that? You

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and I are gonna jump on Live Ish, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. I mean, well, better way to sum

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things up than to go and chat about it as

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soon as it's over, Yes and so, and we'll beg

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and it'll be a break in between the end of

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that event and then those who are back again a.

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Speaker 1: Couple later to night, and you're gonna explain how they

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can see it and what's going on with that as

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well with the Espinosa fight card from Zanfor Promotions, et cetera. Again,

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we will be live on the YouTube channel. That's the

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only place you're gonna be able to find it when

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we recap the bin U Bank fight. That's by design.

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Go find the YouTube page, subscribe. A lot of you

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have found it. Go find it. We're there on video.

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Great nostalgia stuff that's there, as well as these occasional

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times that we're gonna go live and do different things

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on YouTube. Big fight we can YouTube page. Okay, we're

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dispensing with the promos. Let's get into it. Rematch time

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for you Bank Junior or Ben middleweight non title fight

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match Room Disown pay per view right back at Tottenham

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Hotspur Stadium and look, listen, this is one of the

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leading candidates for the Fight of the Year, the first

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one earlier in the year. Pick it up now we

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get the sequel before the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really boxer would be offended because their guy

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Chris Youubank won the fight, and it's a boxer and

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matroom card and read card in any event. Always by design,

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it was a two fight deal. The first fight was

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to be followed by the second fight, to take place

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no later than the end of this calendar year, which

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is what they're doing. So they fought the first fight

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back on April twenty six at the same stadium, Tottenham

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Hotspur Staium in London where they had the fight in April,

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as well as the fight that's coming up Saturday. And

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like you said, TJ, the first fight was a spectacular battle,

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had drama, had an atmosphere, had great action, had big

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personalities and it was everything you want other than Okay,

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title at state. But you know, big whoop it was.

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and now their sons are involved in a similar kind

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of rivalry. The first fight certainly lived up to the

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billing twelfth round perhaps the round of the year, and

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in the end, look, it was the conventional wisdom I

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think sort of played out that the bigger guy, Chris

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u Bank, even though a little older, more experienced, certainly

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against better opposition than Connor Ben was he was the

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one that prevailed and came out ahead one sixteen to

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one to twelve on all three score cards. Seemed like

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very reasonable scores to most people. Perhaps you could have

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had it around closer or around wider with that was

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pretty much the ballpark. And they were contracted for the

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second fight, so they're doing that this coming Saturday, and

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good fight. The thing that was so interesting to me

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the drama, was right before the fight, the surprise that

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Chris Junior and Chris Senior had reunited. They'd been a

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strange for years, and he then show was showing on

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the video of the of them coming into the stadium

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together and then they walked them out to the ring.

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about this because it happened again today. So when the

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fight happened, he got these incredible warrior rivals and Nigel

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other at the fight, watching their sons, you know, beat

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the shit out of each other. Yeah, and they've put

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their rivalry aside. They're friendly now. I mean, I don't

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know if they're gonna be best friends, but obviously they're

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tied together forever. And what I really got a kick

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out of earlier today on Thursday, I watched some of

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the press conference that they held, the final press conference,

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and when they did the pose, you know, to face

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them off against each other. Obviously, the cameras are at

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the sons, but each of the dads were standing there

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next to the father and they were facing off also

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like they were thirty years ago, looking at each other,

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and they were they were trying to look all mean,

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Speaker 1: And eventually it didn't work.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work the kids that you know, Chris Jr.

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Speaker 1: But but I mean, earlier in the week, Chris Junior

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and Connor Bin have been smiling and mugging for the

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camera and standing beside each other. So I don't know,

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we're trying to be contrived. I guess that they're really angry.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing I was coming to. We didn't have

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an incident with any kind of dairy products in this one.

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No Chris Ubank Juniors smacking a literal raw egg shell

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and all off the face of Connor Ben taunting him

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about using the excuse that tainted eggs were part of

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his positive ped test. So we had no We do

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products involved in the pre fight press conference.

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Speaker 2: I just I just made a kick out of the

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fact that the intensity of the rivalry between the fathers

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was so deep, and now years later they're able to

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sort of do that and then hug it out, and

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you know, down the road, maybe the Suns will do

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the same thing. Obviously they can't do it now they're

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in the throes of the of the battle, and you know,

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we expect another good fight. But the fact that they

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could do that it you know, you have to understand

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the context in which this fight has taking place.

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Speaker 1: I will say this because I said it at the

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time back in April, that whole situation fight included was perfect.

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And we rarely ever get a chance to say that

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it was perfect, perfect in the build up, perfect in

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the drama of the fight. Decision could have probably gone

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either way about that. You know, Chris hu Bank Junior

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ends up winning the last couple of rounds. I would

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say that that won him decisively.

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Speaker 2: Nobody nobody's saying the fight could have gone the other way.

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I mean it was a close fight.

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Speaker 1: I thought Connor Benn was still in this in the

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tenth and eleventh round with a chance to maybe even

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knock him out. Chris you Bank Junior was tired and

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was even hurt in that twelfth round. But when the

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fight was over, both fighters class, after all the animosity

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and all the stuff class. Connor Ban giving credit to

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u Bank. He beat men Bank, but Connor Band basically

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almost in tears in the ring. It was genuine on

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how much this meant and how much it looked like

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he had let his father down. You had the U

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Bank Senior stuff reuniting. I mean, it was perfect. I

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don't know that we can have perfect again this weekend

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in London. Let's just settle for really good, really entertaining, dramatic.

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Maybe we get that, maybe we don't, but let's see.

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Let's see on the ring.

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Speaker 2: One thing about it, though it's it's been a little

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bit of a lower key build up. It seems to

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me I don't get the sense of the buzz from

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the fight fans I interact with on social media or

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people that might come to my sub stack and make

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comments on stories and columns and things. So I don't

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know if it's as hyped as the first one. I

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was so much emotion invested in the first fight, and

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that when it was finally over and it was so perfect,

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like you talked about, and it was such a great fight,

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that people are still sort of like recovering in a sense,

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like haven't yet realized that the fight's happening again, and

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they got to gamp themselves up again. So there's that.

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You know, hopefully that will change over the next few

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days and we'll see another great matchup. But it was,

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like you said, it was the perfect conclusion to that.

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a two fight deal, and it was certainly a fight.

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You know. It bothers me sometimes when these rematch clauses

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are in contracts and fights have to do a second

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fight where it doesn't deserve or warn't a second fight

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because it was either completely one sided or it was

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just a terrible fight or whatever. At least this one,

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the rematch clause made sense because they did literally turn in,

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you know, a very good, strong candidate for the Fight

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of the year, and there's still a ton of fan

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interest to see these guys do it again. And that's

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exactly what will happen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you do this with me all the time,

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so I get to swat you. Going into the eleventh

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round of the first fight in April, all three judges

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had the fight within two points, which means if Connor

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Binn had found a way to win the last two rounds,

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he didn't get the last two rounds on either car

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you're in jeopardy of having a draw.

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Speaker 2: In that fact, that's not that's not a swat in

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the end, it was a wasp.

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Speaker 1: You were acting like that. You Bank Junior won it

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decisively and had it the whole way.

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Speaker 2: It was brother decisively. What I said was when the

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bell was over and they read the cards, he was

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very clearly the winner was with that. It wasn't like

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Speaker 1: My point is it could have gone either way, and

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couple of times the fight, including in the twelve, which.

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Speaker 2: Is fine, but the bottom line is he didn't win

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those last couple of rounds. So in the end the

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scores go to you Bank. I mean, if you win

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a baseball game two to one, you still win the game.

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It Maybe it's close, and it was certainly competitive and

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a great dramatic fight, but nobody's disputing that U Bank

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was not the rightful winner.

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Speaker 1: Of agree on that. And do we see the sequel

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live up to it? Not often that we do get

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the sequel living up to it. But let's see, all right,

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what else on this card before we move along? Here

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go ahead with the Jack Catterall co feature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very it's a very British card. I mean,

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an awfully nice guys, is a very good boxer. He's

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got the technical skills. But the next time Jack is

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first time. I mean, that's just the reality. I mean,

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it doesn't make him a bad fighter, doesn't make him

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a bad guy. He just he's in these big time

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positions where you know, it's unfortunate that the crowd may

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end up booing before you get to a very anticipate

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in made event. But nonetheless, he is coming off of

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a seventh round technical decision win against Haarlem you Bank,

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who was the first cousin of Chris Junior, the nephew

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of Chris Senior. That was an absolutely fucking, horrible, fucking

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just terrible. And uh it's unfortunate because it was not

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like it was a you know, an an outlier that

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just happened to you know, stink up the joint. That was.

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opportunities getting here against a good name in catterallt after

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junior welterweight on disputed champion Josh Taylor, sent Josh into retirement,

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the junior walterweight who I've been high for a long time.

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a originally supposed to take on Zaa Abdalive, who had

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against Raymond Maretaya, and he got you know, pretty much

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dominated to that fight. But he'd also fought some other

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names Jorgye Lenariz for example, he pulled out of the fight,

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at least a live guy. Not sure he's gonna win,

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but a guy that's not an old shot guy. The

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guy that's gonna come to fight, got some pizazz to him.

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of these ot X cars on his own and some

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other small are outfits. But people in boxing know him,

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least he's still young, you know, he's fearless to go there,

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so that that could turn out actually to be kind

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of a dark horse candidate for like one of the

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better fights on that show. But those are the two

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main undercard fights, Caterall against Simon and Azeeman Scobi. And

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Speaker 1: And again second mention, you and I will recap it

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whatever's going on with it, and when that fight card

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on the YouTube page exclusively. Don't don't be belly aching

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and griping that you didn't find it on the podcast

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feed Tuesday Saturday night, or that you didn't find it

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on Twitter x or somewhere else. Go to the Big

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Fight Weekend YouTube feed for that. All right, David Benavitaz

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conversation coming up in a couple of moments. But lest

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we forget, we've got the Zanford Promotions top ranked card

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that will be in Mexico, San Luis Posti, Mexico. If

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I said that.

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Speaker 2: Correctly Posty Potosi Potosi, are you dyslexing?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't rely on you on Spanish pronunciations.

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I don't think it's Potosi.

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Speaker 2: Well that's how it's spelled pot Over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with the Spanish. But you know what, there was

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a serial back in the day called post Toasties there

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you go. That's not this. By the way, we got

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Raphie Lspinosa back in the ring and he's a fairly

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entertaining champ. The WBO featherweight champ. Long lanky, arnold guy

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is the opponent. You're gonna explain more about him, and

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then an intriguing co feature involving Lindolfo del Gato and

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some other fights go ahead with the promotion of of

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what's going on here and why we are going to

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be compelled to watch this on Saturday and find it well.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, first of all, Rafael Spinoza is one

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of the more entertaining champions in the sport. Kind of

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came out of nowhere when he defeated Rae, But when

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he defeated Robes Ramirez, I should say, to win this

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title back, you know a few fights ago. That was

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you know, just kind of consider a very big upset

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when they did a tremendous fight. By the way, in

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the end of twenty twenty three he defended the title

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than he beat Ramirez again in a much easier fashion

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in a knockout that took place in December of twenty

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twenty four. He has spout once so far this year.

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In May, he had a good knockout victory against Edward Vasquez,

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who was, you know, like a second tier type contender.

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You know, Kaguy is a guy that's been involved in

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some fights where he's on like Terrence Crawford card. He's

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been in some other opportunity fights and he's sort of

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come up short in an eliminator. He's getting this opportunity

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now on this card and just as so people understand

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we talked about it when it was first announced, but

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there is no more ESPN Top Rank deal. So you're

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probably wondering, Okay, where are we going to watch the fight?

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Like they did with the MICHAELA. Mayer card from Canada

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a couple of weeks ago. This is available on the

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Top Rank Classics Fast channel on the free ad supported television.

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Those channels to be Pluto, ROGUEU Player, Visio, those types

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of any you know with your smart TV eight o'clock

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Saturday night. I was told by Top Rank if you

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miss it, because it's not like ESPN Plus or everything

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was on demand, if you didn't see it live, you

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can't really get on demand in terms of the Top

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Rank Classic Channel. But besides the live program on Saturday.

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They're going to replay the card on Sunday at seven

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pm Eastern time for those who may not be able

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to catch it, if they want to watch it anyway.

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So Espinoza, this is one of those kind of weird

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looking fights in terms of this size difference, because every

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time Rafael Espinoza fights, he's a giant compared to his opponent.

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I saw some of the photographs from of their press

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commerce today. H Rafael Espinosa is like, legit six foot

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maybe six', one And arnold ka guy is like five foot.

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FIVE i, mean so the difference is, massive and that's

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the Same it's that they're the same weight, class both.

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Featherweights but think about it like THIS. Tj Before Jake

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paul And Gervonta davis got, canceled we discussed about the

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size difference Between Jake paul And Gervanta. Davis, Well Gervanda

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davis is also five foot five And Jake paul is

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also about six foot. One so the size, difference and

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one's a, cruiserweight one's a. Lightweight but these guys are both,

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lightweight both featherweights rather and And espinosa still has that

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kind of massive height. Advantage and an accompanying reach. Advantage,

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also so the, guy while not some kind of spectacular,

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fighter is gonna probably have his hands full trying to

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get inside on this. Guy we'll see how he how he.

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Speaker 1: Handles that's his only hope, obviously but in a, distance

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he has no. Hope, yes, Agreed.

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Speaker 2: So, espinoza you know he's been been looking pretty. Good

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he's still undefeated twenty seven and zero with twenty three.

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Knockouts that gigantic build comes to fight every, time and

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so that's your main, event.

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Speaker 1: The.

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Speaker 2: One also if you if there's a drawback for a

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guy who's probably already up against it in this. Fight

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he comes into this fight because his his trainer is

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not able to make it to the. Fight he was

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having visa, issues so he's not able to get To,

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mexico and so he's gonna be uh. Set you, know

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his quarnerman will be the very reputable and obviously Excellent

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marvin's And moodia who's been a long time assistant To

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Freddie roach and has worked with people Like Manny pack

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how train he's gonna Train Manny pacio's son for his pro.

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Debut arnold you know has him in the, Corner so

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we'll see if that makes any kind of. Difference but,

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uh all, right he's. In he's in tough no matter.

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What now without his regular trainer is even more complicated for.

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Speaker 3: Him all.

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Speaker 1: Right so that's the main. Event go through the undercard.

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Again the co Feature Landolfo delgado And gabrielle golaz Venezu.

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Valezuela that's a junior welterweight eliminator for THE. Ibf go

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over that and the rest of the undercard, here which

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has a couple of other top ranked fighters on.

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Speaker 2: It So delgado is A Mexican olympia And dollan's well

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has been in the ring with some good. Opponents this

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should be an action fight if you ask. Me but

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the main thrust of this is the guy who wins

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is getting a title shot against the belt that's currently

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held By richards And. Hitchins Now hitchins is the, Banditor

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he's not due. Yet hitchins probably going to have an

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optional or he may even move up to. Welterweight but

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that's what these guys are fighting. For they're fighting to

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get the opportunity to fight for a. TITLE i feel

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like this one is going to be a very fun.

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Fight and then the two the other two full they're gonnahow.

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HIGHLIGHTS i think of one of the other young prospects

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on the, show but the two other fights out they'll

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show when they're entirely. Live is, guys we've talked About Richard,

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torres The United states, heavyweight The olympic silver medal. Winner

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he's in a ten rounder Against Thomas, salix so see

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if he can keep the truck moving and keep his undefeated.

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Record and then one of the best young prospects in

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the whole sport is the junior. Walter Emiliano vargas has

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at a lot of, charisma, potential star. Power he's in a.

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Fight he's the, son of course Of Fernando, vargas the

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former two time junior middleweight title holder and a Former

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United States. Olympian SO i look at it like. THIS

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i look at this as, like if they've still had

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THEIR espn, contract they'd be doing this as A Espn

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plus OR espn type, show and that's what would be.

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Seen but you can still watch it on the top

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Speaker 1: Channel all, Right so that is Coming saturday later in the.

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Evening because people always ask, this go ahead and answer

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as best we. Can what time do we think time

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frame the main event is going to, be probably at

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least because The mexican time, difference don't worry a lot

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of it is In mountain time. Zone it's probably gonna

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be at least like. Eleven i'm gonna say this like

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Speaker 2: Time what time it is In mexico is not relevant

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because the, card the main live, card starts at eight Pm.

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a twelve, rounder then you got the main. Event so

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think about if you were watching AN Espn plus OR

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espn card at eight, o'clock you know'll figure main event

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probably in that eleven ish sort of eleven, fifteen the

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same as your normal. Timing you, know that's what it's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be saturday, night later in the night For espinosa in

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the main event and the title. Defense and that leads

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us to another champion who you have talked to, now

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who upcoming will be fighting Against Anthony yard in the

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main event of The ring magazine to his own pay

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per view and Readd Saudi arabia Next, Saturday november twenty.

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Second here Now Big dan With David.

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Speaker 2: Benavitas, WELL i would like to welcome to our. Podcast

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this week it is THE Wbc Light Heavyweight champion of The,

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World David, benavidez also the WBA's regular title. Holder, David

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welcome to the. Show i'm looking forward to this fight

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you have coming Up november twenty second on The Ring

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magazine pay per view card from Read Saudi. Arabia you'll

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be headlining defending your title Against Anthony, yard an experienced

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vetter who's fought for world titles. Before so welcome to the.

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SHOW i know you've recently just gotten To Saudi. Arabia

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how was the trip and tell me about your thoughts

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on on making that long excursion to the other side

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of the world for this. Fight.

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Speaker 4: YEAH i felt really. Good you, Know i'm really excited for.

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Speaker 3: This it was extremely long, trip but you, know now we're,

471
00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,440
here so the hardest part of the travel is.

472
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: Over BUT i felt really. Good. Man i've been working

473
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,359
extremely hard for this training.

474
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 3: CAMP i got like about four months and a half

475
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,200
training and every, camp you, know for, me seems to

476
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,400
be the best camp because you, know the stakes keep getting,

477
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,279
higher you, KNOW i keep you, Know i'm getting more,

478
00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:19,599
experience you, know And i'm Feeling i'm finding myself in

479
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,039
a comfort.

480
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,279
Speaker 4: Zone you, Know i'm really getting into my prime.

481
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: Now SO i felt really. Good, Man i've Been i've

482
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,720
worked extremely. HARD i didn't leave any stone. Unturned, conditioning, sparring,

483
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,680
running everything is everything came out really well for this.

484
00:22:31,759 --> 00:22:34,079
Fight you, Know i'm only you, Know i'm nine pounds

485
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,279
away from the weight cut or from the weight right,

486
00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:38,160
now so you, Know i'm a little bit ahead of.

487
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,599
Schedule So i'm very. Excited i'm very. Happy you, know

488
00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:43,680
they've treated me really. Good i've been received really well

489
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,319
here and you, Know i'm excited for this for THE rea.

490
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,799
Speaker 4: Season.

491
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,039
Speaker 2: Car so one THING i want to ask you about.

492
00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,160
THAT i, MEAN i was at your last fight back In.

493
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,880
FEBRUARY i had a great win Against David morrell in

494
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,799
a really good, fight and there was a lot of

495
00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:59,720
discussion after that fight Because you're now took place just

496
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,119
a week or two before they had the rematch Between

497
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,079
Dimitri bibo And Arthur betteria that were fighting for the undisputed,

498
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,519
title and you had been invited to attend that fight

499
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,279
By Turkey alshikh was putting on this cart and, UH

500
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,079
i remember you came to the press conference after your.

501
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,640
Victory you were very, respectful but you're, like, listen you know,

502
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,279
What i'm making my fan base here In Las. Vegas

503
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,400
this has been one of the best Event i've. Had

504
00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:23,359
great crowd that was on fire for your, fight good,

505
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,599
performance and you were building yourself and your preference was

506
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,839
to continue to build yourself In Las vegas and not

507
00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:31,960
go overseas and fight In Saudi. Arabia and now here we, are,

508
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,039
uh you know later this later that same, year and

509
00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:37,039
in fact you're an next fight will be In Saudi, arabia,

510
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:39,640
uh in this fight against anthey. Arch So i'm wondering

511
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,880
what was, uh what was it that? CHANGED i MEAN

512
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,400
i assumed there was a financial offer that you couldn't, refuse,

513
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,480
perhaps but what was it that made you change your?

514
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,519
Mind and and uh and and decide to Leave vegas

515
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:50,480
and go to fight In Saudi.

516
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:54,039
Speaker 3: Yeah so it was actually suggested by you, KNOW Pbc

517
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,240
Al haymon And Samsul lucas THAT i fight over.

518
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,519
Speaker 4: Here they you, know they gave me a pretty good.

519
00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:02,319
Speaker 3: Offer and then not only about this this fight in,

520
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,720
particular but you, know there may be you, know other

521
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,279
great fights that we could, look we could see into

522
00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:10,680
maybe with artser better be maybe with bevol and you,

523
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,640
know it's my right to come out, here and you,

524
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,000
know and.

525
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: Uh contend for the world.

526
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: Titles you, Know i've been you, know declined to, fight you,

527
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,079
know to unify the. TITLES i won sixty, eight so you,

528
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,319
know one seventy FIVE i was you, KNOW i was

529
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,759
the number one contender for THE.

530
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 4: Wbc you, KNOW i was elevated for THE Wbc World Champion.

531
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:35,559
Speaker 3: Championship but you, know My Al haim And Sam slukowitz AND,

532
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,960
pbc you, know they're really cool about. It they suggested

533
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,799
THAT i fought over, here so you, know it's a

534
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:41,480
it was a win win situation.

535
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:41,519
Speaker 4: For both of.

536
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: Us you, KNOW i definitely did want to stay In

537
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,039
Las vegas and fight my next, fight but you, know things,

538
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,519
happen and you, know this is this is another great

539
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,599
opportunity for, me you, know and and and in my,

540
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,799
career you, know and and ultimately my goal is to

541
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,160
unify the belts at one seventy. Five you, KNOW i

542
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,599
was supposed to do that Against dmitri, before but he got,

543
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,680
injured and they say they want to get the fight

544
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,400
with With arts are better be it for the third.

545
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,119
Time so you, know we got to just wait. Patiently

546
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,319
but while we wait, patiently this is the next best

547
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,039
fight that we can make.

548
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: Happen so what do you think, though when this is,

549
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:14,759
over we'll see you back In vegas in the not

550
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:15,200
too distant.

551
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,839
Speaker 3: Future, YEAH i think. So you, know we've had to

552
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:19,559
see how things. Go BUT i definitely do want to

553
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:19,920
go back.

554
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 4: To vegas and.

555
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: Fight LIKE i, SAID i want to you, know my

556
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,079
market is in THE. Us, well LIKE i, said there

557
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,400
was an opportunity here THAT i could fight for the fans

558
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,599
Of Saudi, arabia and you, Know i'm just excited to

559
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:32,400
be here and perform for these fans out.

560
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: Here, well you mentioned, about you, know some of the

561
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920
other names in the weight class and how you you,

562
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,559
know had been elevated from, interim AND i Was i'm

563
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,559
interested to. Hear the perspective from the fighters, is, unfortunately

564
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:45,799
in today's boxing day and, age there's a lot of

565
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960
tremendous fighters that get their belts because they become interim

566
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,279
champions and don't get necessary to fight the actual champion

567
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,640
to win that. Belt that title holder might, vacator something

568
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,880
happens and the other guy gets, elevated which was the

569
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,720
case that happened to. You is there any sort of

570
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,920
sense it's a disappointment, that, well, CERTAINLY i don't think

571
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,680
anybody's gonna look At David denavie to say you're not

572
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,079
a worthy champion and heavyweights or when you were at super,

573
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,519
middleweight but that the way that you obtained the belt

574
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,759
was because of being. Elevated that it kind of it

575
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,640
denies you of the of the of the thing that

576
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,559
every champion wants to, hear you, know and the new

577
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,359
you know in the. Ring how do you square that?

578
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,240
CIRCLE i guess, yeah it was for.

579
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: Me it's a Little i'm not gonna say disappointing because you,

580
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,920
Know i'm STILL i got the world, title BUT i

581
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,039
Would i'm an old school.

582
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,519
Speaker 4: Fighter i'd rather win. It i'd rather go in there

583
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:33,920
and win it in front of a.

584
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,759
Speaker 3: Crowd, well LIKE i, said, nonetheless the world title is

585
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:38,440
a world, title you, know and that puts me in

586
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,799
position to get other big, fights you, know.

587
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: With with with uh for other world.

588
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,759
Speaker 3: Titles, so LIKE i, said it's a little, disappointing but

589
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,319
at the end of the, day you, know world world

590
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,599
champion right, now so that's all that.

591
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 2: Matters you mentioned a little bit about the you, know

592
00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,759
the very rigorous, travel tough travel to get, there a

593
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,519
long trip from The United, states particularly being on The

594
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,720
West coast to get all the way to read and

595
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:01,960
now because the fights and react at least to accommodate

596
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,880
the audience for this, fight which is going to be

597
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,319
largely An american audience because of your fight and as

598
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,119
well as some of the great undercard fights on the

599
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,039
show that Are american based. Fighters it's gonna be at

600
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:13,640
an unusual, time not for us here in The United

601
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,359
states where we'll see it when we normally would see,

602
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,039
fights but for the boxers, involved it's gonna be basically

603
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:19,880
the middle of the. Night we've seen that happen with

604
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,720
some other. Fights how are you dealing or how do

605
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:24,440
you plan to deal with sort of the adjustment to

606
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,279
make sure that you're at your best when you might

607
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:27,880
be fighting at like four in the morning local.

608
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,279
Speaker 3: Time, yeah So i've adjusted my my my sleeping.

609
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: Schedule, Basically i'm more of a night out, now you.

610
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,599
Know i'm actually about to go to the gym right

611
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:37,279
now at.

612
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: Twelve get started probably in like around two thirty or,

613
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,640
three BUT i came here a month, Earlier i've been

614
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,119
In dubai the past three, weeks so.

615
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,279
Speaker 4: You, know just just to deal with the time difference

616
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:49,559
and all.

617
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: That But i've already started training at, twelve so my

618
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,599
body's getting has been getting used to. That fighting at.

619
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Night it's something different for. Me you, Know i'm not

620
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,839
gonna say That i'm gonna know exactly HOW i feel

621
00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,960
fighting at, four but you, know we're taking the right

622
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,880
precautions to.

623
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,559
Speaker 4: Make sure the body gets used to the late the fight.

624
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,599
Speaker 2: Change, well, certainly if you've already been over In dubai

625
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,440
for three, weeks the time there compared To Saudi arabia

626
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,319
is a lot more similar than if you were, still you,

627
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,440
know here in The United. States but, anyway let's talk

628
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,759
a little bit of An Anthony. Art he is your,

629
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,839
opponent a well known, fighter certainly to The british fans,

630
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,160
anyway a respected, veteran challenge for the world title twice.

631
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,039
Before this will be his third. Opportunity he is zero

632
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,319
and two in those. Fights he got stopped in round

633
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,839
eleven By Sergey kobalev in really what Was sergey's last

634
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,400
big win in twenty. Nineteen followed that up in twenty twenty,

635
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,160
three he got knocked out By arthur Better viev in

636
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,839
the eighth. Round he has won four fights in a

637
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,799
row since. Then he avenged a loss To Lindon arthur In.

638
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:47,799
APRIL i wonder what is your view Of yard and

639
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,799
in terms of where he is in the scheme of

640
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:51,920
the light, heavyweights you, know he has, lost LIKE i,

641
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,599
said in the moments where he has stepped up seems

642
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:58,400
to me in terms of his, skills AND i don't

643
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,920
mean this negatively, basic you, know but but with good punching.

644
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Power, also, yeah he's a good, fighter but unfortunately for,

645
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,640
him he's gonna be zero and three in world title.

646
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Fights you, know, he's LIKE i, said you put on

647
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,039
some great, performances but nonetheless he's came up short every single.

648
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,720
Time and you, KNOW i put myself on the same

649
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,440
level or if not better than those champions that you,

650
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,000
mentioned you, know like better be A covia Le f

651
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
and you, know but he's gonna he's gonna come into tremendous.

652
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,200
Shape you, know he's you, know he's a strong. Fighter

653
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:32,640
but you, KNOW i just feel Like i'm in a

654
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,680
different level right. NOW i feel Like i've seen that

655
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:35,640
type of fighting style.

656
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,759
Speaker 4: Before over and over.

657
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:40,279
Speaker 3: Again but you, know LIKE i, SAID i didn't take him.

658
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,559
EASILY i didn't take him. Lightly i'm not overlooking. HIM

659
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,039
i heard his trainers saying That i'm overlooking. Him i've

660
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:45,920
never overlooked.

661
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: Anybody that's Why i'm in the POSITION i am right.

662
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,559
Speaker 3: Now and if, ANYTHING i probably trained harder from him

663
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,680
THAN i have for anybody. Else you, know LIKE i,

664
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,319
SAID i have four months AND i have training for

665
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:56,839
this training. Cabin i'm tremendous, shape AND i feel really,

666
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,400
good AND i see a lot of opportunity for me

667
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,119
to hurt him in a lot of different. Cases and

668
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,640
so you, Know i've put together a great game. Plan

669
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,400
now it's just for me to go in. There you,

670
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640
know follow my game, plan you, know keep my, distance

671
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,799
use the, jab attack the, body through the, combinations and you,

672
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,039
know just just just.

673
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: Continue to. Attack but LIKE i, SAID i see a

674
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,079
lot of holes in his.

675
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:21,359
Speaker 3: Game and you, know IF i follow my game, plan

676
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,279
IF i follow my game plan, PERFECTLY i see myself stopping.

677
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,119
Speaker 2: Him, WELL i was gonna ask you about. That you're

678
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,799
this is gonna be your third fight now since you've

679
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:31,720
moved up From super. Midaweight At super, midtaweight you're pretty

680
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,759
much destroying, everybody knocking guys out looking, uh you, know

681
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,440
not just good in terms of, winning but in terms

682
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,039
of doing it in style with the. Stoppage in your

683
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,400
two fights so, far at seventy, five you went the

684
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,720
distance with a former, Champion Alexander, votzik and then you

685
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,440
had the. Decision, also you, know both of them were

686
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,039
clear decisions Against David morrell as. Well SO i guess

687
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:54,079
there are some people that, Say, okay he's got two

688
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,279
fights that light heavyweight went the twelve round distance both.

689
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,319
Times did carry his punching power that was so evident

690
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:03,319
at super middle into the light heavyweight. Division obviously we'll

691
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,400
see what happens in the fight With Anthony, Ark but

692
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,519
how do you think that that has? Translated are you

693
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,240
still the puncher at light heavyweight that you work at super?

694
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,519
Speaker 4: Middleweight, NO i definitely do feel Like i'm the.

695
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,519
Speaker 3: Puncher it's just that and Now i've noticed that going

696
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,960
up in weight, class these guys are, Bigger so you

697
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,559
don't have to strictly just focus on punching. Power you

698
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,359
have to go back to the. Basics you have to use,

699
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,759
footwork you, know you have to use, combinations you have

700
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,160
to set things. Up you have to use the. Distance

701
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720
and LIKE i, Said I've i've worked on the. Things

702
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:33,559
i've worked on those. Things you, Know, i've LIKE i,

703
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:35,880
Said i've put together a really good game. Plan and you,

704
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,599
know people are gonna say whatever they want to. Say

705
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:38,960
but at the end of the, day once you've seen

706
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,279
both those. FIGHTS i heard both those fighters in both

707
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:41,559
of those.

708
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 4: Fights so that's.

709
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,559
Speaker 3: True power Hasn't the power hasn't gone, anywhere you. Know

710
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,880
LIKE i, SAID i just need to set it up

711
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,920
a little bit. Better and you, know and you, know

712
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,079
follow my game plan. More you, know LIKE i, said

713
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,799
me and my, father my, team we put together a,

714
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:54,799
great great game.

715
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: Plan so Now i'm gonna Just i'm gonna go in,

716
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,119
there follow the game. Plan BUT i.

717
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: Guarantee YOU i will hurt at the yard in. There you,

718
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,039
KNOW i do see myself stopping him in the later.

719
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,079
Speaker 2: ROUNDS i know you spent all that time Chasing Canelo

720
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,519
alvarez when you guys were both in the super middleweight.

721
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,359
DIVISION i was. Wondering you. Know he come off a

722
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,079
loss in his last bet In september Against Terrence, crawford

723
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,039
who moved up two way classes to fight. Him AND

724
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,680
i wonder when you saw the way that he, performed

725
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,799
which certainly he did not look at his best Against Terrence,

726
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,680
crawford who fought obviously a really good. Fight do you

727
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,519
think that that performance was sort of the proof needed

728
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,720
to show that he Was probably for, him it wasn't

729
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,200
in his best interest to mess around With David. Denavitez,

730
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:31,400
YEAH i think.

731
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: SO i think that's why they put the.

732
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: Fight you, know they that they didn't want to fight

733
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:37,519
for such a long, time and that's why they keeps

734
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,640
shooting the question down when every time they ask. Him

735
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,559
they know That i'm not coming to play any.

736
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: Games they Know i'm a strong, Fighter they know him

737
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,839
a red lentless.

738
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Fighter they KNOW i have a great gas tank in the,

739
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,839
fights so they knew they definitely know.

740
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,319
Speaker 4: HIM a big.

741
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: Problem you, know whether WHETHER i say that he was

742
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:55,079
ducking me or.

743
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: Not you, know that's, gonna you, know bring up a

744
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,799
whole lot of. Stuff people are gonna say this and.

745
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,799
Speaker 3: That but at that the, DAY i know WHAT i

746
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:02,640
could do in there With Canelo, auberas and he knows

747
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,599
WHAT i could do as. Well so you, know maybe

748
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,279
this this, fight the loss with him In Terrence. Crawford

749
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960
maybe this puts me at a better position to get

750
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
a fight with, him because now what Is canelo gonna?

751
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,519
Do he doesn't have any, belts there's not really anybody

752
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,960
else for him to fight at one sixty. Eight in my,

753
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:21,599
opinion his best interest is to come up to one

754
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,680
seventy five Fight Callum, smith get a victory With Callum

755
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,079
smith or whoever however that fight plays, out and THEN

756
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:29,839
i could get the winner that. Fight you, Know that's

757
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:32,160
really what makes sense to me in my. Head but

758
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,920
LIKE i, Said canello could do whatever he. Wants you,

759
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,519
Know I'm i'm chasing my. Dreams you, know my dreams

760
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:43,000
are unifying the world world, championships the world. Titles Dmitri

761
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:47,480
bebo has. That so if whenever he fights him and

762
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,680
arts are better be. It you, know whoever gets whoever

763
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880
wins that, fight you, Know i'm definitely gonna be pursuing

764
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,599
a fight with that with that person to unify the, belts.

765
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,559
Speaker 2: Which makes a lot of sense because you're the mandatory

766
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,799
and they're the two biggest, names and, honestly if you

767
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:01,519
take to look beyond the two of those guys and

768
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:04,640
then there's. Yourself of, course there's not a lot beyond

769
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,559
that in terms of true depth in the, division and

770
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:09,639
so hopefully at some point we'll see those. Fights but

771
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,400
one Thing i'm interested beyond that, is And you've said,

772
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,840
THIS i think in the past that at some Point

773
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,760
David benavitez is going to be a cruiserweight down the.

774
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
ROAD i found with interest that recently When oscar de

775
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:26,519
La hoya promoted his card in Between Virgil arties when

776
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:28,960
he had his fight against Ericson, lubin they did an

777
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,840
interview with him during the dizone broadcast and he was talking,

778
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,320
about you, know the return of from injury of the

779
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,920
unified cruiserweight title Holder Zerdo ramirez that he, promotes and

780
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,039
they were talking up the prospect of when he comes,

781
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:42,880
back would he do a you, know a big cruiseweight

782
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,920
fight against Ji, opataia who was of course THE ibf

783
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,360
and the lineal. Champion And oscar, said, yeah we'd love

784
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,119
to make that. Fight But denny, SAID i got another.

785
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,639
Idea he, said what would you think About Zerdo ramerez

786
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,159
Against David. Benavitez AND i was, like, yeah that's the

787
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,000
hell of a. Fight is your? FUTURE i know you

788
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,519
got stuff to accomplish that light heavyweight or as you,

789
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,079
said in your prime but in the maybe not too

790
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,880
just the future does cruiserweight Backing and what are your

791
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,639
thoughts about those fights that were, mentioned whether It's opataia

792
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,360
zero All mexican kind of.

793
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 3: Battle to be honest with, you WHAT i, think it's

794
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,239
very clear That i've been trying to achieve greatness no

795
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,920
matter what weight.

796
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: Class i'm that so right, NOW i got my file

797
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:20,480
With Anthony.

798
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Yard but If i'm able to get a fight With

799
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,559
Zula ramirez my next, fight then that's the Route I'm

800
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,360
I'm i'm gonna, take you. Know LIKE i, SAID i

801
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,159
want to be an all time great by the time

802
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,679
my career is. Finished AND i feel like if we

803
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:33,880
can make the fight With ramirez happen next AND i

804
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,360
definitely take that, fight you, know and then after that

805
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,639
we'll see what, comes you know WHAT i.

806
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: Mean But i'm.

807
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,119
Speaker 2: Ready to also presented itself a fight Weell.

808
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,159
Speaker 3: Batio would be a great, fight but LIKE i, Said

809
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:48,599
i'd want to get my feet wet at the cruiserweight division,

810
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:50,679
first because in my, Opinion opataia.

811
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: Is the strongest fighter at.

812
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: Cruiserweight so IF i could get a fight With Suda

813
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,559
ramirez then come back down and.

814
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,079
Speaker 4: When and when the unify the titles in one seventy.

815
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: FIVE i would definitely go back up to cruiserweight and.

816
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,119
Idle but it's a lot of great, fights you.

817
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: KNOW i, Said we're in a great position right now

818
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,360
where there's so much good. Fights ALL i gotta.

819
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: Do is continue, winning continue doing my. Part and BUT i,

820
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,079
will LIKE i, Said i'm a man of my. Word

821
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,920
i'm gonna give, them my fans the best fights. Possible

822
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,559
If i'm able to make these fights happen and negotiate

823
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:19,440
a deal with any of these, CHAMPIONS i am going

824
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:19,920
to take it.

825
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: WELL i think the fans would be. LOVING i love

826
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,800
to hear, that and obviously it all starts in terms

827
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,719
of that. Pathway you got the big fight With Yard

828
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,599
november twenty two on his own pay per view By

829
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:32,639
David thank you very much for your. Time enjoy your.

830
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,599
Time you're on a business trip To Saudi. Arabia good

831
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:35,920
luck to.

832
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,639
Speaker 4: You, yes, sir thank.

833
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:41,559
Speaker 1: YOU i always pose this to you because you could see,

834
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,360
him you were talking to. Him first of, All i'm

835
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,360
not aware of this BECAUSE i have not seen the

836
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,719
video at the. Time you AND i are doing the.

837
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,599
Podcast was he already In Saudi, ARABIA i would assume,

838
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,679
Yes but what about the how did he look to?

839
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,840
You what about that part of?

840
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,079
Speaker 2: It, yeah he had just arrived At Saudi, ARABIA i

841
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,360
believe the previous day or maybe earlier in the day

842
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,679
WHEN i spoke him On. Thursday but the thing is

843
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,079
that we discussed his. Travel people can hear that in the.

844
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,760
Interview but the interesting thing was he didn't come directly

845
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,039
from The United states and make that long trip To Saudi.

846
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:11,880
Arabia it was a long, trip but he didn't go

847
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,119
To Saudi arabia. Directly what they did was they've been

848
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,679
training for the last three weeks In dubai the sort

849
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,760
of acclimate to the time zone, acclimate you, know similar,

850
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,920
weather and then make the trip To Saudi arabia obviously

851
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,559
a much shorter flight get From dubai to get To,

852
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:29,760
riad and you, know spend some time talking about adjusting

853
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,239
his training schedule and.

854
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,679
Speaker 1: Gave the good Answers he's always was forth coming in the.

855
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,559
Speaker 2: Interview no Listen. David i've Interviewed David benavide's numerous times

856
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:40,679
through the. Years i've covered many of his, FIGHTS a

857
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,960
very very good interview BECAUSE i feel like when he

858
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,400
answers your, question he's just telling, you like what it.

859
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,320
Is he's. Not there's not a lot of, posturing a

860
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,199
lot of. Nonsense you, know he's excited for the, fight

861
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,039
he's excited for the potential for big fights post this

862
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:57,519
and it as much AS i like to Watch benavid's

863
00:37:57,519 --> 00:37:59,480
and it should be a good. Fight his yard is always,

864
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,199
in you know when he stepped. Up but he had

865
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:04,239
a tremendous fight With kovilev and a tremendous fight against Better.

866
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,480
Bv even though he ended up getting stopped in both of,

867
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,679
them they were both highly. ENTERTAINING i sort of figured

868
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,960
this will be the same scenario for this main, event

869
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,239
and then the rest of the card may even be

870
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960
better in terms of the matchups on paper than the main,

871
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,480
event even though the main event is a good, fight

872
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,280
because you Got hainy Against Brian, norman you Got Sam

873
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,559
rodriguez Against Puma, martinez he Got Abdulla mason Against Sam,

874
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,079
noakes and there's a lot of meat on the bone

875
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:27,239
of this.

876
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: SHOW i got you on that look forward to all of.

877
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,880
It nice, job nice, Hustle AND i know you said

878
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,119
this about thanking his publicist as well for helping line

879
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,159
all of this. Up Big dan's rocking and rolling killing

880
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,119
it here with the, interviews let's move on to some

881
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,760
news before we are. Done all, RIGHT i joked with

882
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,159
you at the top of the, Podcast Jake paul looking

883
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,639
for an. OPPONENT i said this to you a week

884
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,519
and a half. Ago Is Anthony joshua going to be

885
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:56,719
on the? Radar, well apparently it's more than just on the.

886
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,679
Radar they're in serious. Discussions, HOWEVER i have done this

887
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,559
long enough with you THAT i know what's coming here

888
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:05,880
in a, second So i'll go ahead and say. It

889
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,000
it's not. Done as you AND i are talking On thursday,

890
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,320
night it's not, done or you would have said to

891
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,840
me it's, done and here's what's gonna. Happen so it's not.

892
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,480
Done but how serious is this That Jake paul's gonna

893
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,760
Fight Anthony? Joshua give me.

894
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Gious it's very. Serious but to the best of my,

895
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:23,760
knowledge it is not.

896
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,199
Speaker 1: Done.

897
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: UH i kind of think it probably will get. DONE i,

898
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,440
THINK i, MEAN i know.

899
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: There's we discuss it and how preposterous it might or

900
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,760
might not. Be isn't it entirely possible that they're TRYING

901
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,280
mvp to finalize with somebody. Else and we've seen. This

902
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,159
we've seen this over and over, again not just WITH,

903
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,480
mvp but all over, boxing all over, negotiations that you

904
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,239
put it out there that you might be ready to

905
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,079
fight this, guy and now you go do something, else

906
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,199
like for, Example Jake paul thought that he had a

907
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,920
fight With Canelo alvarez back earlier this, year that, yes

908
00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,920
all but, done but Can nanello left him at The

909
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,440
altar and did a multi fight deal With Turkey alischik

910
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,440
and said. Goodbye it wasn't. Done so isn't it possible

911
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,280
here they're dangling this because they're working on somebody else For. December.

912
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,639
POSSIBLE i guess it's.

913
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,639
Speaker 2: Possible BUT i think their target right now Is Anthony

914
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,159
Joshua and it's very. Listen sometimes it's about. Timing Anthony

915
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,159
joshua has been you, know he's rehabbed his. Injury he

916
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,280
hasn't fought since his knockout lost The duboi Last. September

917
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Eddie hearn has said on a number of occasions that he,

918
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,320
would you, know probably return In, february but they were

919
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,599
going to try to get him out at the end

920
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:37,480
of twenty twenty, five they listed off the dates of

921
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,639
Shows Chris mannix did when they did an interview With

922
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,400
eddie on one of his recent dis own, broadcasts and

923
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,400
it was mentioned, that, Yeah Jake paul And Anthony joshua

924
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,960
was certainly possibility for one of those, shows although that

925
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,280
would not be a matchroom. Show that's obviously AN mvp

926
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,400
card that would be On. Netflix netflix is looking to

927
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,519
have a big event and once they decided that the

928
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:02,440
constant domestic violence issues that's Round Gervanta Tank davis were

929
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,119
not impatible palatable to, them and they ended up basically

930
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,039
forcing their hand to be to drop him from the.

931
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,320
Fight they needed to get another big. Name If jake

932
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,920
was going to keep the, date you can't just go

933
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,639
get it nobody For. Netflix so you, know they reached

934
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,840
out to all kinds of different people That Frances naganu

935
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,440
And Terrence crawford And Andre ward and you, Know Nate

936
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,400
diaz in a rematch and And Anthony joshua was part of,

937
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,760
that But joshua fits. Again this is this is separate

938
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,159
aside from whether you think it's garbage or it's nonsense or,

939
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,360
whatever but just in terms of the logistics of putting

940
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,679
a event. Together he fits the bill because he's he's

941
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,159
on their, schedule like he can be in the. Ring

942
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,440
he doesn't have to make, weight there's Not he's been

943
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,280
in the gym for the last you, know, however you,

944
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,480
know last month or, more and it's. DOABLE i think

945
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,960
what it comes down to, is As Eddie hearn talked, about,

946
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,440
look if they want to pay us tens of millions

947
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,039
of dollars to AND J, paul you, know why not do?

948
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,960
It LIKE i, mean how could you Blame Anthony? Joshua

949
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,840
you get offered you, know tens of millions of dollars

950
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
instead of you, know to fight These december ninth Or

951
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:04,719
december of what is it THE i forget the fifteenth?

952
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,559
Whatever That, friday the.

953
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Sixth the sixth Is. SATURDAY i know, that so it

954
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,440
would be the, thirteenth the twentieth On. Saturdays but are

955
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,400
they looking to do this on A?

956
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Friday, yes they're Looking they're gonna Do they're gonna look

957
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,840
to do on A, friday either the twelfth or the.

958
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,760
Nineteenth my point, is If joshua was gonna fight In,

959
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,079
december why not do it for tens of millions then

960
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:28,000
much much smaller money on a smaller. Card SO i

961
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,119
think that's the case that they're looking at. Now whether

962
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,119
it gets officially done or, not we'll see. It if

963
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:34,679
it's going to get done, officially you gotta figure it's

964
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,599
gonna get, done you, know literally in the next twenty

965
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,000
four to forty eight hours, thereabouts say, yeah.

966
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: This is this is where my radar went. Up that

967
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,159
we're now like a full twenty four hour since this

968
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,320
is being kicked around and it's not announced. Yet so

969
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,079
if we get to Like, friday and we get To

970
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,800
saturday and there's not an announcement and there's not a,

971
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,000
deal then that just says to, ME i have no.

972
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,119
Insight i'm just in the cheap. Seats i'm putting that out.

973
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,519
There that says to, me they're trying to get somebody,

974
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:03,639
else and they're dangling this to finalize with somebody. Else

975
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,800
BECAUSE i have to believe some of the, people the

976
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,000
boxing people Around Jake paul are looking at, him, going

977
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,960
this guy is a former heavyweight, champion a big time.

978
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,480
Puncher still you can argue if his prime is, over

979
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,400
but still relatively close to his, prime do you really

980
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,920
want to get in there where they got watch and

981
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,719
watch The aganu fight and watch what, happened and do

982
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,440
you want that to potentially be. YOU i don't. Know

983
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,519
maybe he doesn't have anybody else that's going to say

984
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:33,239
that to. HIM i don't.

985
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: Know it's Like Eddie hearn said when he spoke on

986
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,760
his own That jake calls crazy and SO i wouldn't

987
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,039
put it past him to do the. Fight we'll have

988
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:42,039
to wait and. Say But i'll say this from a boxing,

989
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,119
PERSPECTIVE i don't care If Anthony joshua is no longer

990
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:47,400
in his prime and is, diminished which he clearly. Is

991
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,039
but even that version Of Anthony joshua is way better

992
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,679
than A Francis, naganu A Na, diez A Tyron, woodley

993
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,559
a boxing version Of Anderson, silva a fifty eight year

994
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:02,920
old out of nineteen years in, Retirement Mike, tyson a

995
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,480
long faded a drug, addict And Julio sayzar Chab is

996
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,880
fighting forty pounds over his best. Weight Like Anthony joshua

997
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,960
is an, actual real top deals. Contender even if you

998
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,920
don't think he's at his, best he's still at. Worst

999
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,000
you know a guy that's in the top ten of

1000
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,280
the heavyweight. Division you, know if you take into account

1001
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,840
the fact he's been off a, year some people might

1002
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,280
drop him because of the, inactivity but he also was.

1003
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,039
Injured point, is this is like nothing else That Jake

1004
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,199
paul will have ever seen in the. Ring and on

1005
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,679
top of, that you're gonna be going from preparing for

1006
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,800
a five foot, five one hundred and thirty five pounder

1007
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:41,440
in an exhibition bout to a six foot, six two

1008
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:45,320
hundred and fifty pound man in what they Didn't, obviously

1009
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,480
the fight's not, official But i'm assuming that if it was,

1010
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,920
done it would be an actual official. Fight there'd be

1011
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,159
no reason for it not to. Be jake has fought

1012
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:56,800
at two hundred and twenty seven pounds Against tyson, even you,

1013
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,119
know and it's totally normal for a two hundred pound

1014
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,920
cruiserweight to move up to fight in the heavyweight. DIVISION

1015
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:03,960
i don't know why it wouldn't be an official. Fight

1016
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,119
and so that's a you, know that's that's you, know

1017
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,159
what's one hundred plus pounds between? Friends? Right?

1018
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,199
Speaker 1: Oh it is.

1019
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,079
Speaker 2: Crazy but the thing also, is, uh you, Know, Florida

1020
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,679
i'm sure what's what's sanctioned the? Fight they'd sanction you

1021
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,280
Against Anthony, joshua if you.

1022
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: Ask settled, DOWN i don't think, so BUT i actually.

1023
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:25,320
Do BUT i live In. Florida but, okay SO i

1024
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,760
asked this all the time we sit here On thursday.

1025
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,480
Night you've called around on the realism. Meter what's the number? Six?

1026
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,480
SEVEN i think it's like a.

1027
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,639
Speaker 2: Seven and a. Half, Wow and here's your thing you talk, about, like,

1028
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,920
well they got to get it. Done keep in mind

1029
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:43,239
the people that are involved With Anthony joshua At Matural,

1030
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,559
boxing they're a little busy right. Now they got this

1031
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:48,599
humongous event that's taking place On saturday With ben and You.

1032
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,440
BANK i, mean, yeah they can walk in chew gum

1033
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,599
at the same. Time but you, know these things are

1034
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:54,119
going to take a few minutes to get higron. Now

1035
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,519
And i'm sure even if they agree to the, fight you,

1036
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:58,960
know when you're dealing at this magnitude and It's netflix

1037
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,800
and all this, money and you're dealing with WITH mvp

1038
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,519
And Eddie hearn And Nikisa badarin FROM. Mvp although they

1039
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:07,880
have worked together in the, past remember they were both

1040
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,199
involved when they Did Katie Taylor Amanda, Serrano, RIGHT i

1041
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:14,639
don't think they have the best. Relationship my point is

1042
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,559
it takes a few minutes to get this type of thing.

1043
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,679
Done they don't have a lot of time, obviously but

1044
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,679
we'll have to wait and.

1045
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: SEE i, mean if you're working on basically one, month all,

1046
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,360
right stay tuned on whether it actually gets, done and

1047
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,519
then we have that's.

1048
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,559
Speaker 2: A whole separate conversation of whether we think it should

1049
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:33,719
happen or whether we like the fact that it's. Happening,

1050
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,679
right the only silver lining IS i DON'T i think

1051
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,320
it's just. Terrible but, whatever the reality, is if they

1052
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,320
do make the, fight you can watch it On netflix

1053
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,039
and it won't cost you money on pay per. View

1054
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,280
the only thing you're giving up is your, time all.

1055
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: RIGHT a couple more things and then we're out of,

1056
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,800
here all, Right Moses, atama you did talk about. This

1057
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,400
it is now official For january the twenty. Fourth give

1058
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,719
the details on the opponent and more or A thomas

1059
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,760
return in twenty twenty.

1060
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: Six, yeah has expected he's. Going and AS i said

1061
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,039
to you last, week they are not doing the The

1062
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,679
Derek Tesora dylan, whitefight which originally there was talk That

1063
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,159
moses would headline on that card or perhaps be on the,

1064
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,039
undercard but because of the order by THE. Wba they

1065
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:18,920
kind of got sidetracked with trying to get that. Situated

1066
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:21,360
in any, event he's going to come back and Headline

1067
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,280
january twenty. Fourth it's going to be at the Co

1068
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Op the Co Op live In, manchester which is the

1069
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,360
new arena. There he's going to take on the very

1070
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,480
battle test Of Jermaine, franklin who does have some, people

1071
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,840
the boxing, FANS i, think you, know the diehards in

1072
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,360
THE uk know. Him the good. NEWS i asked just

1073
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,400
to double check this is not going to be pay

1074
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,079
per view on The. Zone this is supposed to, be

1075
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,320
from what they told, me a non pay per view.

1076
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,119
Speaker 1: Fight oh, good, okay UNTIL i decide In january that

1077
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:47,519
it is continue on my friend.

1078
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: Life is a fluid. Situation. YEAH i asked very specifically

1079
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,320
when this was announced a couple days ago and was

1080
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,920
told it is a regular Do, zone part of your normal.

1081
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,119
Subscription let's see if they stick to. It the thing

1082
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:03,199
About Jermaine franklin, is, look he's An american From, Saginaw.

1083
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,480
Michigan he's got a good record twenty four wins and two,

1084
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,239
losses fifteen. Knockouts he's thirty two years, old not an

1085
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,840
old shot. Guy he's won three fights in a row

1086
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,360
and the only time he's lost he went the. Distance

1087
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,519
he lost a decision and Gave Anthony joshua a pretty good.

1088
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:19,760
Fight he also lost a decision To Dylan white When

1089
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,360
Dylan white was still somewhat decent. Before you, know he

1090
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,119
didn't look so good in other, fights and of Course

1091
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,800
Moses atama took him out in about two minutes in

1092
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,760
the last. Fight, Yeah so the obvious thing, here if

1093
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,079
you're The Queensberry promotions, people you've picked an opponent who

1094
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,440
you strongly believe in should. Defeat you know that That

1095
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:39,960
Moses thomas should. Defeat but you also look at it

1096
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:42,719
as here's a guy that is going to get something

1097
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,039
For moses And thoma that he desperately, needs and that's

1098
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:49,480
a rounds if he Stops Jermaine. Franklin that's a big

1099
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:52,440
statement in my, opinion Because Jermaine franklin has fought two

1100
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,440
excellent punchers In Dylan white And Anthony joshua and never

1101
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:57,199
came close to getting knocked out by either one of.

1102
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,079
Them and so if A toma could somehow get rid

1103
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,079
of this, guy that would be. Impressive the main thing

1104
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,800
is get the young. Man some rounds have a top

1105
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,000
off this, card which is going to also include you,

1106
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,159
know they call it The Magnificent. Seven they've got like

1107
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,360
seven fights for varying regional. Titles Willie hutchinson in the

1108
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,760
co feature Against Ezra taylor in a light heavyweight, fight

1109
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,719
which actually should be a pretty good. Scrap but the

1110
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,480
main attractioneer is the next step in the career of

1111
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:22,559
most of The, atama who is, still by the, way

1112
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,920
the mandatory challenger assuming he wins for the regular title

1113
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,119
that's held By. Poolev and in a corollary news item from,

1114
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:34,480
that the wb AS i posted on My twitter and

1115
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,519
wrote about this in my my, newsletter THE wba has

1116
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:40,840
officially now granted the exception or they call it a

1117
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,159
special permit For Kubrat poolev to defend Against gasieva that

1118
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:50,159
takes place In, December december twelfth In. Dubai and but

1119
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,559
they had to go through all the conditions Where moses

1120
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:56,920
A toma is the next mandatory after, that and if

1121
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,440
it's a, draw he still has to fight a to after,

1122
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,119
that and he's allowed to do this fight With Jermaine

1123
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,159
franklin and, YadA, YadA, YadA But the bottom line is

1124
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:11,039
if If moses, wins he's supposedly fighting the winner of,

1125
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:14,719
Pool Lef gassid in the next, fight negotiations to begin immediately.

1126
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Afterwards they have Till february ninth to make an, agreement

1127
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,239
and they amended the purse with fifty to fifty the pool.

1128
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,519
Left people are pissed off about. That and my perception,

1129
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,000
is would you rather have fifty to fifty Against Moses,

1130
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,519
atama which can really make you, money or seventy five

1131
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:30,800
twenty five against a fight that means nothing and there

1132
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,320
won't be any.

1133
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: MONEY i don't disagree with your math on. THAT i

1134
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,119
will believe That Moses etama gives a crap and fights

1135
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:40,679
either one of those guys WHEN i see it versus

1136
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:42,159
a title. Shot stay. Tuned we that.

1137
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: Listen you can say what you. Want queensberry And atama

1138
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,199
they would love to get the shot at the regular

1139
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,840
title because it puts them on the path to bigger.

1140
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,360
Titles that's the bottom. Line so we can mock THE

1141
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,039
wba regular title they, want and it is. MOCKABLE i can,

1142
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:59,079
Agree we've done a million. Times but to the boxers

1143
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:01,480
and to the promotion, companies they are.

1144
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: Meaningful stay tuned a couple more real quick Ericson lubin

1145
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:09,719
got demolished By Virgil ortiz a couple of weekends, ago

1146
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:14,320
and now it says that actually he gave an update

1147
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,599
that he is going to fight on. Right yeah he.

1148
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 2: IS i mean, he like you, said he got absolutely

1149
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,400
smoked By. ORTIZ i think we all thought that he

1150
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960
would lose and That virgil would emerge as the victor

1151
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,119
in that. Fight BUT i don't know if we would

1152
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:27,920
have necessarily thought that he'd be knocked, out you, know

1153
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,880
inside of ninety seconds or. So but that's what. Happened

1154
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,440
it was a tremendous performance From Virginal. Ortiz we hope

1155
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,320
he moves on to the big matchup Against. Boutsennis but

1156
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,360
in the, Meantime, lubin you know, who did not do

1157
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,679
an interview after the fight in the ring. Understandable don't

1158
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:43,440
believe he appeared at the press. COMENTS i looked at.

1159
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,880
THAT i didn't see him. There but he did make

1160
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,599
a post on his social media On, monday and, look

1161
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:50,239
he had a good attitude about. It he's, like, look

1162
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,679
you Know, saturday you know he was a. Prisoner he,

1163
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,440
Said i'm a prisoner of my own bad. HABITS i

1164
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,159
think what he meant by that was laying on the,

1165
00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:58,760
ropes which was you know what really put him in

1166
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,599
a lot of, trouble but that you, know you live

1167
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:03,159
by the, story you die by the. Stord i'll be,

1168
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:05,559
Back i'll be better next. Time i'll be at. Middleweight

1169
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,639
so he has been a junior middleweight for a long

1170
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,440
time and it's time maybe if he's going to continue

1171
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,400
on with his crew to move up and maybe not

1172
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,440
suffer to make the weight as. Much but we'll have

1173
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,880
to wait and see what. Happens i'm not sure what

1174
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,440
his future is at the heavier weight, class But i'll

1175
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,559
tell you one. Thing the middleweight division is a lot

1176
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,960
more open and a lot less taxing at the top

1177
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,360
level than the junior middleweight, division so perhaps he might

1178
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:27,800
be able to do.

1179
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,599
Speaker 1: Something and one more, Note oscar de La, joia you

1180
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:37,519
mentioned The Jake Paul Julio Caesar chavez main event In

1181
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,440
passing that was In, Anaheim. CALIFORNIA i was there in

1182
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:47,719
Late june on that. Card Zerto, ramirez the cruiserweight, champ

1183
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,119
was in the co. Feature but he's got a shoulder,

1184
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:53,559
problem had shoulder. Surgery what's the update on when he

1185
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:53,960
might be.

1186
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: Back so during that broadcast Of Virgil ortiz Against Eric

1187
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,679
slubin Our Pal chris did an interview With oscar to

1188
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,880
talk about varying things That Golden boy has going, on

1189
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,400
and one of the topics was the return Of Xerdo.

1190
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Ramirez as you, mentioned he did have the shoulder surgery

1191
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,239
following his victory Against dordikos on that J Paul chavez.

1192
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,920
Card it was always positioned at the time that it

1193
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,039
took place he'd probably be out four to six. Months

1194
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,280
oscar talked about having him back in the ring In

1195
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,639
february against you, know a reputable, opponent and then after,

1196
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:25,800
that if he were to be the, winner to try

1197
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,039
to make him a big. Fight and so the suggestion From,

1198
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:29,920
chris AND i think most boxing mans would be, like,

1199
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,119
oh going to try to make The opataia. Fight opataiah

1200
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:34,559
has a fight coming up in a you, know before

1201
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:36,719
the end of the, year and certainly that would be the,

1202
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,920
crown the number one fighter in the, division unify, three the,

1203
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,440
titles lineal, Title let's take really good. Matchup and he, said,

1204
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,400
yeah of course we'll be interested in making a fight With,

1205
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,280
Opataia but what about. This imagine Imagine Zerdo ramirez Against David.

1206
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,880
Benavidez that If David benavide's were to win his upcoming

1207
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,599
fight that we had the interview about that he has

1208
00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:57,440
With Anthony, arden at some point he moves up to.

1209
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Cruiserweight that would be a pretty big. Fight, also that's

1210
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,400
a great you know, all you, Know mexican Against Mexican. American,

1211
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,039
obviously both guys with with good styles and you, know

1212
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:09,920
can can get into a. Fight you, Know deserda more

1213
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,280
of the boxer compared To, benavidia's BUT i feel like

1214
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,239
maybe those styles would nest pretty. Well so he he

1215
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,079
broch that. Topic the point is we're going to See,

1216
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:19,400
ZERO i hope back in the in the first couple

1217
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,079
of months of twenty twenty. Six hopefully they put him

1218
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:24,440
in with a, good solid, opponent defend the, title and

1219
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,159
then from there Hopefully opataia, next and then maybe by

1220
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:32,079
that point we'll see the move up to the, division,

1221
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:34,599
know to the cruiserweight division Of David, benavidez and at

1222
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:36,800
some point they get that fight. On but Uh zerto

1223
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:39,159
is going to have some good OPPORTUNITIES i think for

1224
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,400
some good fights in the cruiserweight.

1225
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Division all, right plenty of news here as, well chalked

1226
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:50,079
full on the preview. Pod we again remind you that coming,

1227
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:52,519
up we've got This chris You Bank Junior Connor band

1228
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,480
main event In England saturday AFTERNOON us Time Sammy Night

1229
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,360
primetime In. London you AND i will be on the

1230
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,760
YouTube page to recap that, fight The Big Fight weekend

1231
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,840
YouTube page when it is over somewhere in the six

1232
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,039
Pm Eastern time hour, ish be looking for. It we'll

1233
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:12,480
be promoting. It we'll do it. Live we're gonna do it,

1234
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:16,360
live including taking your comments as. Well if you've watched that,

1235
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,679
fight so jump in as a post fight recap of that.

1236
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,360
Fight you AND i will have a fuller recap with some,

1237
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,000
news et. Cetera off the weekend after The esponosa main

1238
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,400
event card In. MEXICO i should MENTION i didn't mention this.

1239
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,199
Earlier i'm actually headed To, Buffalo New, York Western New.

1240
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,079
York you're part of the world growing up for The

1241
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,320
Tampa Bay buccaneers of The Buffalo, Bills So i'm gonna

1242
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,840
join you From. Buffalo when we make our way To,

1243
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,039
Buffalo i'm gonna shuffle off The. Buffalo very nice for

1244
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,320
The saturday night recap show that we're doing on the YouTube.

1245
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,199
PAGE i will be there prior to THE Nfl sunday

1246
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,679
with My buccaneers and my radio duties with them playing the.

1247
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,599
Bills so we're gonna be. Busy we're gonna be busy this.

1248
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:02,639
Weekend so go ahead and find the YouTube page and

1249
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:04,639
be ready for. That anything else or are we good

1250
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:05,440
and ready to head to the.

1251
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,119
Speaker 2: Weekend i'm ready for the. WEEKEND i think we both.

1252
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:11,559
Speaker 1: Are, there Goes Big Dan. Rayfield i'm MERELY.

1253
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 4: Tj.

1254
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,159
Speaker 1: Reeves go to His Fight Preach unite substack as he

1255
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:17,199
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00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,159
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00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:23,360
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00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,480
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1259
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:28,159
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1260
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,320
so check it out right here off the pod feed

1261
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,719
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1262
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,039
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00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,880
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