Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big
Fight Weekend. Now here is your host? All right, weekend,
I gotta say this with a rematch that I think
we're all looking forward to. Even if we're in the
United States. The fight is in the UK as friz
U Bank Junior and Connor Benn are already teeing it
up again for the second time this year. We're ready
to talk about that fight. Plus, we've got a Mexican
fight card that has Raphael Espinoza, the featherweight champion of
the WBO, headlining, as well as some other intriguing fights.
We're ready to preview all of those and the WBC
and w Rayfield. Did you put WBA regular light heavyweight
champion on my script? You did? We have David Benavitez
on the program and Big Dan talk to him. We
got all of that fight news and more. I am
merely the somewhat competent host. TJ. Reeves, Hello, Big Dan
Rayfield some action this weekend, and David Benavidez on the pod.
Speaker 2: And Anthony Joshua Jake.
Speaker 1: Paul Oh, I thought you assured me that this wasn't
gonna happen because Joshua would eradicate. That's my word, Jake Paul.
But now we're onto this. We're gonna talk about that
in a little while.
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: What are we doing here with that? Thank you for
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You and I actually, let's go ahead and tell the
peeps you and I are going to be live on
YouTube on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page after whatever
happens this. If you bank Junior Bin rematch somewhere, would
you gus six pm Eastern hour something like that? You
and I are gonna jump on Live Ish, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. I mean, well, better way to sum
things up than to go and chat about it as
soon as it's over, Yes and so, and we'll beg
and it'll be a break in between the end of
that event and then those who are back again a.
Speaker 1: Couple later to night, and you're gonna explain how they
can see it and what's going on with that as
well with the Espinosa fight card from Zanfor Promotions, et cetera. Again,
we will be live on the YouTube channel. That's the
only place you're gonna be able to find it when
we recap the bin U Bank fight. That's by design.
Go find the YouTube page, subscribe. A lot of you
have found it. Go find it. We're there on video.
Great nostalgia stuff that's there, as well as these occasional
times that we're gonna go live and do different things
on YouTube. Big fight we can YouTube page. Okay, we're
dispensing with the promos. Let's get into it. Rematch time
for you Bank Junior or Ben middleweight non title fight
match Room Disown pay per view right back at Tottenham
Hotspur Stadium and look, listen, this is one of the
leading candidates for the Fight of the Year, the first
one earlier in the year. Pick it up now we
get the sequel before the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really boxer would be offended because their guy
Chris Youubank won the fight, and it's a boxer and
matroom card and read card in any event. Always by design,
it was a two fight deal. The first fight was
to be followed by the second fight, to take place
no later than the end of this calendar year, which
is what they're doing. So they fought the first fight
back on April twenty six at the same stadium, Tottenham
Hotspur Staium in London where they had the fight in April,
as well as the fight that's coming up Saturday. And
like you said, TJ, the first fight was a spectacular battle,
had drama, had an atmosphere, had great action, had big
personalities and it was everything you want other than Okay,
I don't really care about this, but some people are
kind of hung up on the fact there was no
title at state. But you know, big whoop it was.
You know, it was the the next generation rivalry fight.
You know, anybody that's followed Boston knows that that Nigel
Ben and Chris U Bank Senior in the nineteen nineties
had two amazing fights and yes, huge British rivals. It's
you know, their rivalry is mythic in in British boxing history,
and now their sons are involved in a similar kind
of rivalry. The first fight certainly lived up to the
billing twelfth round perhaps the round of the year, and
in the end, look, it was the conventional wisdom I
think sort of played out that the bigger guy, Chris
u Bank, even though a little older, more experienced, certainly
against better opposition than Connor Ben was he was the
one that prevailed and came out ahead one sixteen to
one to twelve on all three score cards. Seemed like
very reasonable scores to most people. Perhaps you could have
had it around closer or around wider with that was
pretty much the ballpark. And they were contracted for the
second fight, so they're doing that this coming Saturday, and
we'll see how it goes. I expect to be another
good fight. The thing that was so interesting to me
the first time around, which sort of lended itself to
the drama, was right before the fight, the surprise that
Chris Junior and Chris Senior had reunited. They'd been a
strange for years, and he then show was showing on
the video of the of them coming into the stadium
together and then they walked them out to the ring.
And I can't get over it, and I still think
about this because it happened again today. So when the
fight happened, he got these incredible warrior rivals and Nigel
Ben and Chris you Bank basically sitting next to each
other at the fight, watching their sons, you know, beat
the shit out of each other. Yeah, and they've put
their rivalry aside. They're friendly now. I mean, I don't
know if they're gonna be best friends, but obviously they're
tied together forever. And what I really got a kick
out of earlier today on Thursday, I watched some of
the press conference that they held, the final press conference,
and when they did the pose, you know, to face
them off against each other. Obviously, the cameras are at
the sons, but each of the dads were standing there
next to the father and they were facing off also
like they were thirty years ago, looking at each other,
and they were they were trying to look all mean,
and then they broke in his smiles.
Speaker 1: And eventually it didn't work.
Speaker 2: It didn't work the kids that you know, Chris Jr.
And Connor they weren't hugging it out.
Speaker 1: But but I mean, earlier in the week, Chris Junior
and Connor Bin have been smiling and mugging for the
camera and standing beside each other. So I don't know,
we're trying to be contrived. I guess that they're really angry.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's contrived. I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I was coming to. We didn't have
an incident with any kind of dairy products in this one.
No Chris Ubank Juniors smacking a literal raw egg shell
and all off the face of Connor Ben taunting him
about using the excuse that tainted eggs were part of
his positive ped test. So we had no We do
want to confirm we had no dairy supplemental or otherwise
products involved in the pre fight press conference.
Speaker 2: I just I just made a kick out of the
fact that the intensity of the rivalry between the fathers
was so deep, and now years later they're able to
sort of do that and then hug it out, and
you know, down the road, maybe the Suns will do
the same thing. Obviously they can't do it now they're
in the throes of the of the battle, and you know,
we expect another good fight. But the fact that they
could do that it you know, you have to understand
the context in which this fight has taking place.
Speaker 1: I will say this because I said it at the
time back in April, that whole situation fight included was perfect.
And we rarely ever get a chance to say that
it was perfect, perfect in the build up, perfect in
the drama of the fight. Decision could have probably gone
either way about that. You know, Chris hu Bank Junior
ends up winning the last couple of rounds. I would
say that that won him decisively.
Speaker 2: Nobody nobody's saying the fight could have gone the other way.
I mean it was a close fight.
Speaker 1: I thought Connor Benn was still in this in the
tenth and eleventh round with a chance to maybe even
knock him out. Chris you Bank Junior was tired and
was even hurt in that twelfth round. But when the
fight was over, both fighters class, after all the animosity
and all the stuff class. Connor Ban giving credit to
u Bank. He beat men Bank, but Connor Band basically
almost in tears in the ring. It was genuine on
how much this meant and how much it looked like
he had let his father down. You had the U
Bank Senior stuff reuniting. I mean, it was perfect. I
don't know that we can have perfect again this weekend
in London. Let's just settle for really good, really entertaining, dramatic.
Maybe we get that, maybe we don't, but let's see.
Let's see on the ring.
Speaker 2: One thing about it, though it's it's been a little
bit of a lower key build up. It seems to
me I don't get the sense of the buzz from
the fight fans I interact with on social media or
people that might come to my sub stack and make
comments on stories and columns and things. So I don't
know if it's as hyped as the first one. I
think I get this sort of the sense that there
was so much emotion invested in the first fight, and
that when it was finally over and it was so perfect,
like you talked about, and it was such a great fight,
that people are still sort of like recovering in a sense,
like haven't yet realized that the fight's happening again, and
they got to gamp themselves up again. So there's that.
You know, hopefully that will change over the next few
days and we'll see another great matchup. But it was,
like you said, it was the perfect conclusion to that.
But they did the deal in the first place for
a two fight deal, and it was certainly a fight.
You know. It bothers me sometimes when these rematch clauses
are in contracts and fights have to do a second
fight where it doesn't deserve or warn't a second fight
because it was either completely one sided or it was
just a terrible fight or whatever. At least this one,
the rematch clause made sense because they did literally turn in,
you know, a very good, strong candidate for the Fight
of the year, and there's still a ton of fan
interest to see these guys do it again. And that's
exactly what will happen.
Speaker 1: By the way, you do this with me all the time,
so I get to swat you. Going into the eleventh
round of the first fight in April, all three judges
had the fight within two points, which means if Connor
Binn had found a way to win the last two rounds,
he didn't get the last two rounds on either car
you're in jeopardy of having a draw.
Speaker 2: In that fact, that's not that's not a swat in
the end, it was a wasp.
Speaker 1: You were acting like that. You Bank Junior won it
decisively and had it the whole way.
Speaker 2: It was brother decisively. What I said was when the
bell was over and they read the cards, he was
very clearly the winner was with that. It wasn't like
a controversial.
Speaker 1: My point is it could have gone either way, and
I think you Bank Junior was very much hurt a
couple of times the fight, including in the twelve, which.
Speaker 2: Is fine, but the bottom line is he didn't win
those last couple of rounds. So in the end the
scores go to you Bank. I mean, if you win
a baseball game two to one, you still win the game.
It Maybe it's close, and it was certainly competitive and
a great dramatic fight, but nobody's disputing that U Bank
was not the rightful winner.
Speaker 1: Of agree on that. And do we see the sequel
live up to it? Not often that we do get
the sequel living up to it. But let's see, all right,
what else on this card before we move along? Here
go ahead with the Jack Catterall co feature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very it's a very British card. I mean,
that's the bottom line. So for those of us in
America that may not follow a British boxing that closely,
there may not be a lot for you. I guess
the co feature is Jack Catterall against Echo Essuman decent names.
I'm not so sure how it plays out in the ring.
You know, I've said this many times. Caterall seems like
an awfully nice guys, is a very good boxer. He's
got the technical skills. But the next time Jack is
in a fight that's good to watch will be the
first time. I mean, that's just the reality. I mean,
it doesn't make him a bad fighter, doesn't make him
a bad guy. He just he's in these big time
positions where you know, it's unfortunate that the crowd may
end up booing before you get to a very anticipate
in made event. But nonetheless, he is coming off of
a seventh round technical decision win against Haarlem you Bank,
who was the first cousin of Chris Junior, the nephew
of Chris Senior. That was an absolutely fucking, horrible, fucking
fight that took plays in July. I mean, it was
absolutely qw.
Speaker 1: F bombs in the response about how bad it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just horrible if you watched it,
just terrible. And uh it's unfortunate because it was not
like it was a you know, an an outlier that
that Jack is usually in pretty good fights and this
just happened to you know, stink up the joint. That was.
That's pretty much the way most Jack Catterall fights go.
And Harlem new Bank did not help the situation because, uh,
he was less interesting to watch in that fight than
Jack was. Estuman. Uh, you know, earned the kind of
opportunities getting here against a good name in catterallt after
coming off of a win that took place in May
where he got an upset dig upset against the former
junior welterweight on disputed champion Josh Taylor, sent Josh into retirement,
and so he earned another another significant fight. He's getting
that again and uh, you know, hopefully it'll be something
good for the fans to watch. I'm I'm most interested
in terms of the undercards is the is Adam Azim,
the junior walterweight who I've been high for a long time.
The British fighter uh also with boxer. So he was
a originally supposed to take on Zaa Abdalive, who had
fought for the title. He'd been We saw him most
recently in America fighting against in an interim title fight
against Raymond Maretaya, and he got you know, pretty much
dominated to that fight. But he'd also fought some other
names Jorgye Lenariz for example, he pulled out of the fight,
you know, two weeks ago or so with an injury,
and I feel like they got themselves a pretty good replacement,
at least a live guy. Not sure he's gonna win,
but a guy that's not an old shot guy. The
guy that's gonna come to fight, got some pizazz to him.
That's that's the American fighter Kurt Scobie, who if you
follow some of the like he's fought on like some
of these ot X cars on his own and some
other small are outfits. But people in boxing know him,
so I'm hopeful he'll give him a good go. At
least he's still young, you know, he's fearless to go there,
so that that could turn out actually to be kind
of a dark horse candidate for like one of the
better fights on that show. But those are the two
main undercard fights, Caterall against Simon and Azeeman Scobi. And
then we got, of course, the Big Time main event.
Speaker 1: And again second mention, you and I will recap it
whatever's going on with it, and when that fight card
is over Saturday evening US Time will do it live
on the YouTube page exclusively. Don't don't be belly aching
and griping that you didn't find it on the podcast
feed Tuesday Saturday night, or that you didn't find it
on Twitter x or somewhere else. Go to the Big
Fight Weekend YouTube feed for that. All right, David Benavitaz
conversation coming up in a couple of moments. But lest
we forget, we've got the Zanford Promotions top ranked card
that will be in Mexico, San Luis Posti, Mexico. If
I said that.
Speaker 2: Correctly Posty Potosi Potosi, are you dyslexing?
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't rely on you on Spanish pronunciations.
I don't think it's Potosi.
Speaker 2: Well that's how it's spelled pot Over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the Spanish. But you know what, there was
a serial back in the day called post Toasties there
you go. That's not this. By the way, we got
Raphie Lspinosa back in the ring and he's a fairly
entertaining champ. The WBO featherweight champ. Long lanky, arnold guy
is the opponent. You're gonna explain more about him, and
then an intriguing co feature involving Lindolfo del Gato and
some other fights go ahead with the promotion of of
what's going on here and why we are going to
be compelled to watch this on Saturday and find it well.
Speaker 2: Like you said, first of all, Rafael Spinoza is one
of the more entertaining champions in the sport. Kind of
came out of nowhere when he defeated Rae, But when
he defeated Robes Ramirez, I should say, to win this
title back, you know a few fights ago. That was
you know, just kind of consider a very big upset
when they did a tremendous fight. By the way, in
the end of twenty twenty three he defended the title
than he beat Ramirez again in a much easier fashion
in a knockout that took place in December of twenty
twenty four. He has spout once so far this year.
In May, he had a good knockout victory against Edward Vasquez,
who was, you know, like a second tier type contender.
You know, Kaguy is a guy that's been involved in
some fights where he's on like Terrence Crawford card. He's
been in some other opportunity fights and he's sort of
come up short in an eliminator. He's getting this opportunity
now on this card and just as so people understand
we talked about it when it was first announced, but
there is no more ESPN Top Rank deal. So you're
probably wondering, Okay, where are we going to watch the fight?
Like they did with the MICHAELA. Mayer card from Canada
a couple of weeks ago. This is available on the
Top Rank Classics Fast channel on the free ad supported television.
Those channels to be Pluto, ROGUEU Player, Visio, those types
of any you know with your smart TV eight o'clock
Saturday night. I was told by Top Rank if you
miss it, because it's not like ESPN Plus or everything
was on demand, if you didn't see it live, you
can't really get on demand in terms of the Top
Rank Classic Channel. But besides the live program on Saturday.
They're going to replay the card on Sunday at seven
pm Eastern time for those who may not be able
to catch it, if they want to watch it anyway.
So Espinoza, this is one of those kind of weird
looking fights in terms of this size difference, because every
time Rafael Espinoza fights, he's a giant compared to his opponent.
I saw some of the photographs from of their press
commerce today. H Rafael Espinosa is like, legit six foot
maybe six', one And arnold ka guy is like five foot.
FIVE i, mean so the difference is, massive and that's
the Same it's that they're the same weight, class both.
Featherweights but think about it like THIS. Tj Before Jake
paul And Gervonta davis got, canceled we discussed about the
size difference Between Jake paul And Gervanta. Davis, Well Gervanda
davis is also five foot five And Jake paul is
also about six foot. One so the size, difference and
one's a, cruiserweight one's a. Lightweight but these guys are both,
lightweight both featherweights rather and And espinosa still has that
kind of massive height. Advantage and an accompanying reach. Advantage,
also so the, guy while not some kind of spectacular,
fighter is gonna probably have his hands full trying to
get inside on this. Guy we'll see how he how he.
Speaker 1: Handles that's his only hope, obviously but in a, distance
he has no. Hope, yes, Agreed.
Speaker 2: So, espinoza you know he's been been looking pretty. Good
he's still undefeated twenty seven and zero with twenty three.
Knockouts that gigantic build comes to fight every, time and
so that's your main, event.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 2: One also if you if there's a drawback for a
guy who's probably already up against it in this. Fight
he comes into this fight because his his trainer is
not able to make it to the. Fight he was
having visa, issues so he's not able to get To,
mexico and so he's gonna be uh. Set you, know
his quarnerman will be the very reputable and obviously Excellent
marvin's And moodia who's been a long time assistant To
Freddie roach and has worked with people Like Manny pack
how train he's gonna Train Manny pacio's son for his pro.
Debut arnold you know has him in the, Corner so
we'll see if that makes any kind of. Difference but,
uh all, right he's. In he's in tough no matter.
What now without his regular trainer is even more complicated for.
Speaker 3: Him all.
Speaker 1: Right so that's the main. Event go through the undercard.
Again the co Feature Landolfo delgado And gabrielle golaz Venezu.
Valezuela that's a junior welterweight eliminator for THE. Ibf go
over that and the rest of the undercard, here which
has a couple of other top ranked fighters on.
Speaker 2: It So delgado is A Mexican olympia And dollan's well
has been in the ring with some good. Opponents this
should be an action fight if you ask. Me but
the main thrust of this is the guy who wins
is getting a title shot against the belt that's currently
held By richards And. Hitchins Now hitchins is the, Banditor
he's not due. Yet hitchins probably going to have an
optional or he may even move up to. Welterweight but
that's what these guys are fighting. For they're fighting to
get the opportunity to fight for a. TITLE i feel
like this one is going to be a very fun.
Fight and then the two the other two full they're gonnahow.
HIGHLIGHTS i think of one of the other young prospects
on the, show but the two other fights out they'll
show when they're entirely. Live is, guys we've talked About Richard,
torres The United states, heavyweight The olympic silver medal. Winner
he's in a ten rounder Against Thomas, salix so see
if he can keep the truck moving and keep his undefeated.
Record and then one of the best young prospects in
the whole sport is the junior. Walter Emiliano vargas has
at a lot of, charisma, potential star. Power he's in a.
Fight he's the, son of course Of Fernando, vargas the
former two time junior middleweight title holder and a Former
United States. Olympian SO i look at it like. THIS
i look at this as, like if they've still had
THEIR espn, contract they'd be doing this as A Espn
plus OR espn type, show and that's what would be.
Seen but you can still watch it on the top
Rank classic.
Speaker 1: Channel all, Right so that is Coming saturday later in the.
Evening because people always ask, this go ahead and answer
as best we. Can what time do we think time
frame the main event is going to, be probably at
least because The mexican time, difference don't worry a lot
of it is In mountain time. Zone it's probably gonna
be at least like. Eleven i'm gonna say this like
Eleven eastern.
Speaker 2: Time what time it is In mexico is not relevant
because the, card the main live, card starts at eight Pm.
Eastern so you got two ten, rounders then you got
a twelve, rounder then you got the main. Event so
think about if you were watching AN Espn plus OR
espn card at eight, o'clock you know'll figure main event
probably in that eleven ish sort of eleven, fifteen the
same as your normal. Timing you, know that's what it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be saturday, night later in the night For espinosa in
the main event and the title. Defense and that leads
us to another champion who you have talked to, now
who upcoming will be fighting Against Anthony yard in the
main event of The ring magazine to his own pay
per view and Readd Saudi arabia Next, Saturday november twenty.
Second here Now Big dan With David.
Speaker 2: Benavitas, WELL i would like to welcome to our. Podcast
this week it is THE Wbc Light Heavyweight champion of The,
World David, benavidez also the WBA's regular title. Holder, David
welcome to the. Show i'm looking forward to this fight
you have coming Up november twenty second on The Ring
magazine pay per view card from Read Saudi. Arabia you'll
be headlining defending your title Against Anthony, yard an experienced
vetter who's fought for world titles. Before so welcome to the.
SHOW i know you've recently just gotten To Saudi. Arabia
how was the trip and tell me about your thoughts
on on making that long excursion to the other side
of the world for this. Fight.
Speaker 4: YEAH i felt really. Good you, Know i'm really excited for.
Speaker 3: This it was extremely long, trip but you, know now we're,
here so the hardest part of the travel is.
Speaker 4: Over BUT i felt really. Good. Man i've been working
extremely hard for this training.
Speaker 3: CAMP i got like about four months and a half
training and every, camp you, know for, me seems to
be the best camp because you, know the stakes keep getting,
higher you, KNOW i keep you, Know i'm getting more,
experience you, know And i'm Feeling i'm finding myself in
a comfort.
Speaker 4: Zone you, Know i'm really getting into my prime.
Speaker 3: Now SO i felt really. Good, Man i've Been i've
worked extremely. HARD i didn't leave any stone. Unturned, conditioning, sparring,
running everything is everything came out really well for this.
Fight you, Know i'm only you, Know i'm nine pounds
away from the weight cut or from the weight right,
now so you, Know i'm a little bit ahead of.
Schedule So i'm very. Excited i'm very. Happy you, know
they've treated me really. Good i've been received really well
here and you, Know i'm excited for this for THE rea.
Speaker 4: Season.
Speaker 2: Car so one THING i want to ask you about.
THAT i, MEAN i was at your last fight back In.
FEBRUARY i had a great win Against David morrell in
a really good, fight and there was a lot of
discussion after that fight Because you're now took place just
a week or two before they had the rematch Between
Dimitri bibo And Arthur betteria that were fighting for the undisputed,
title and you had been invited to attend that fight
By Turkey alshikh was putting on this cart and, UH
i remember you came to the press conference after your.
Victory you were very, respectful but you're, like, listen you know,
What i'm making my fan base here In Las. Vegas
this has been one of the best Event i've. Had
great crowd that was on fire for your, fight good,
performance and you were building yourself and your preference was
to continue to build yourself In Las vegas and not
go overseas and fight In Saudi. Arabia and now here we, are,
uh you know later this later that same, year and
in fact you're an next fight will be In Saudi, arabia,
uh in this fight against anthey. Arch So i'm wondering
what was, uh what was it that? CHANGED i MEAN
i assumed there was a financial offer that you couldn't, refuse,
perhaps but what was it that made you change your?
Mind and and uh and and decide to Leave vegas
and go to fight In Saudi.
Speaker 3: Yeah so it was actually suggested by you, KNOW Pbc
Al haymon And Samsul lucas THAT i fight over.
Speaker 4: Here they you, know they gave me a pretty good.
Speaker 3: Offer and then not only about this this fight in,
particular but you, know there may be you, know other
great fights that we could, look we could see into
maybe with artser better be maybe with bevol and you,
know it's my right to come out, here and you,
know and.
Speaker 4: Uh contend for the world.
Speaker 3: Titles you, Know i've been you, know declined to, fight you,
know to unify the. TITLES i won sixty, eight so you,
know one seventy FIVE i was you, KNOW i was
the number one contender for THE.
Speaker 4: Wbc you, KNOW i was elevated for THE Wbc World Champion.
Speaker 3: Championship but you, know My Al haim And Sam slukowitz AND,
pbc you, know they're really cool about. It they suggested
THAT i fought over, here so you, know it's a
it was a win win situation.
Speaker 4: For both of.
Speaker 3: Us you, KNOW i definitely did want to stay In
Las vegas and fight my next, fight but you, know things,
happen and you, know this is this is another great
opportunity for, me you, know and and and in my,
career you, know and and ultimately my goal is to
unify the belts at one seventy. Five you, KNOW i
was supposed to do that Against dmitri, before but he got,
injured and they say they want to get the fight
with With arts are better be it for the third.
Time so you, know we got to just wait. Patiently
but while we wait, patiently this is the next best
fight that we can make.
Speaker 2: Happen so what do you think, though when this is,
over we'll see you back In vegas in the not
too distant.
Speaker 3: Future, YEAH i think. So you, know we've had to
see how things. Go BUT i definitely do want to
go back.
Speaker 4: To vegas and.
Speaker 3: Fight LIKE i, SAID i want to you, know my
market is in THE. Us, well LIKE i, said there
was an opportunity here THAT i could fight for the fans
Of Saudi, arabia and you, Know i'm just excited to
be here and perform for these fans out.
Speaker 2: Here, well you mentioned, about you, know some of the
other names in the weight class and how you you,
know had been elevated from, interim AND i Was i'm
interested to. Hear the perspective from the fighters, is, unfortunately
in today's boxing day and, age there's a lot of
tremendous fighters that get their belts because they become interim
champions and don't get necessary to fight the actual champion
to win that. Belt that title holder might, vacator something
happens and the other guy gets, elevated which was the
case that happened to. You is there any sort of
sense it's a disappointment, that, well, CERTAINLY i don't think
anybody's gonna look At David denavie to say you're not
a worthy champion and heavyweights or when you were at super,
middleweight but that the way that you obtained the belt
was because of being. Elevated that it kind of it
denies you of the of the of the thing that
every champion wants to, hear you, know and the new
you know in the. Ring how do you square that?
CIRCLE i guess, yeah it was for.
Speaker 3: Me it's a Little i'm not gonna say disappointing because you,
Know i'm STILL i got the world, title BUT i
Would i'm an old school.
Speaker 4: Fighter i'd rather win. It i'd rather go in there
and win it in front of a.
Speaker 3: Crowd, well LIKE i, said, nonetheless the world title is
a world, title you, know and that puts me in
position to get other big, fights you, know.
Speaker 4: With with with uh for other world.
Speaker 3: Titles, so LIKE i, said it's a little, disappointing but
at the end of the, day you, know world world
champion right, now so that's all that.
Speaker 2: Matters you mentioned a little bit about the you, know
the very rigorous, travel tough travel to get, there a
long trip from The United, states particularly being on The
West coast to get all the way to read and
now because the fights and react at least to accommodate
the audience for this, fight which is going to be
largely An american audience because of your fight and as
well as some of the great undercard fights on the
show that Are american based. Fighters it's gonna be at
an unusual, time not for us here in The United
states where we'll see it when we normally would see,
fights but for the boxers, involved it's gonna be basically
the middle of the. Night we've seen that happen with
some other. Fights how are you dealing or how do
you plan to deal with sort of the adjustment to
make sure that you're at your best when you might
be fighting at like four in the morning local.
Speaker 3: Time, yeah So i've adjusted my my my sleeping.
Speaker 4: Schedule, Basically i'm more of a night out, now you.
Know i'm actually about to go to the gym right
now at.
Speaker 3: Twelve get started probably in like around two thirty or,
three BUT i came here a month, Earlier i've been
In dubai the past three, weeks so.
Speaker 4: You, know just just to deal with the time difference
and all.
Speaker 3: That But i've already started training at, twelve so my
body's getting has been getting used to. That fighting at.
Night it's something different for. Me you, Know i'm not
gonna say That i'm gonna know exactly HOW i feel
fighting at, four but you, know we're taking the right
precautions to.
Speaker 4: Make sure the body gets used to the late the fight.
Speaker 2: Change, well, certainly if you've already been over In dubai
for three, weeks the time there compared To Saudi arabia
is a lot more similar than if you were, still you,
know here in The United. States but, anyway let's talk
a little bit of An Anthony. Art he is your,
opponent a well known, fighter certainly to The british fans,
anyway a respected, veteran challenge for the world title twice.
Before this will be his third. Opportunity he is zero
and two in those. Fights he got stopped in round
eleven By Sergey kobalev in really what Was sergey's last
big win in twenty. Nineteen followed that up in twenty twenty,
three he got knocked out By arthur Better viev in
the eighth. Round he has won four fights in a
row since. Then he avenged a loss To Lindon arthur In.
APRIL i wonder what is your view Of yard and
in terms of where he is in the scheme of
the light, heavyweights you, know he has, lost LIKE i,
said in the moments where he has stepped up seems
to me in terms of his, skills AND i don't
mean this negatively, basic you, know but but with good punching.
Speaker 3: Power, also, yeah he's a good, fighter but unfortunately for,
him he's gonna be zero and three in world title.
Fights you, know, he's LIKE i, said you put on
some great, performances but nonetheless he's came up short every single.
Time and you, KNOW i put myself on the same
level or if not better than those champions that you,
mentioned you, know like better be A covia Le f
and you, know but he's gonna he's gonna come into tremendous.
Shape you, know he's you, know he's a strong. Fighter
but you, KNOW i just feel Like i'm in a
different level right. NOW i feel Like i've seen that
type of fighting style.
Speaker 4: Before over and over.
Speaker 3: Again but you, know LIKE i, SAID i didn't take him.
EASILY i didn't take him. Lightly i'm not overlooking. HIM
i heard his trainers saying That i'm overlooking. Him i've
never overlooked.
Speaker 4: Anybody that's Why i'm in the POSITION i am right.
Speaker 3: Now and if, ANYTHING i probably trained harder from him
THAN i have for anybody. Else you, know LIKE i,
SAID i have four months AND i have training for
this training. Cabin i'm tremendous, shape AND i feel really,
good AND i see a lot of opportunity for me
to hurt him in a lot of different. Cases and
so you, Know i've put together a great game. Plan
now it's just for me to go in. There you,
know follow my game, plan you, know keep my, distance
use the, jab attack the, body through the, combinations and you,
know just just just.
Speaker 4: Continue to. Attack but LIKE i, SAID i see a
lot of holes in his.
Speaker 3: Game and you, know IF i follow my game, plan
IF i follow my game plan, PERFECTLY i see myself stopping.
Speaker 2: Him, WELL i was gonna ask you about. That you're
this is gonna be your third fight now since you've
moved up From super. Midaweight At super, midtaweight you're pretty
much destroying, everybody knocking guys out looking, uh you, know
not just good in terms of, winning but in terms
of doing it in style with the. Stoppage in your
two fights so, far at seventy, five you went the
distance with a former, Champion Alexander, votzik and then you
had the. Decision, also you, know both of them were
clear decisions Against David morrell as. Well SO i guess
there are some people that, Say, okay he's got two
fights that light heavyweight went the twelve round distance both.
Times did carry his punching power that was so evident
at super middle into the light heavyweight. Division obviously we'll
see what happens in the fight With Anthony, Ark but
how do you think that that has? Translated are you
still the puncher at light heavyweight that you work at super?
Speaker 4: Middleweight, NO i definitely do feel Like i'm the.
Speaker 3: Puncher it's just that and Now i've noticed that going
up in weight, class these guys are, Bigger so you
don't have to strictly just focus on punching. Power you
have to go back to the. Basics you have to use,
footwork you, know you have to use, combinations you have
to set things. Up you have to use the. Distance
and LIKE i, Said I've i've worked on the. Things
i've worked on those. Things you, Know, i've LIKE i,
Said i've put together a really good game. Plan and you,
know people are gonna say whatever they want to. Say
but at the end of the, day once you've seen
both those. FIGHTS i heard both those fighters in both
of those.
Speaker 4: Fights so that's.
Speaker 3: True power Hasn't the power hasn't gone, anywhere you. Know
LIKE i, SAID i just need to set it up
a little bit. Better and you, know and you, know
follow my game plan. More you, know LIKE i, said
me and my, father my, team we put together a,
great great game.
Speaker 4: Plan so Now i'm gonna Just i'm gonna go in,
there follow the game. Plan BUT i.
Speaker 3: Guarantee YOU i will hurt at the yard in. There you,
KNOW i do see myself stopping him in the later.
Speaker 2: ROUNDS i know you spent all that time Chasing Canelo
alvarez when you guys were both in the super middleweight.
DIVISION i was. Wondering you. Know he come off a
loss in his last bet In september Against Terrence, crawford
who moved up two way classes to fight. Him AND
i wonder when you saw the way that he, performed
which certainly he did not look at his best Against Terrence,
crawford who fought obviously a really good. Fight do you
think that that performance was sort of the proof needed
to show that he Was probably for, him it wasn't
in his best interest to mess around With David. Denavitez,
YEAH i think.
Speaker 4: SO i think that's why they put the.
Speaker 3: Fight you, know they that they didn't want to fight
for such a long, time and that's why they keeps
shooting the question down when every time they ask. Him
they know That i'm not coming to play any.
Speaker 4: Games they Know i'm a strong, Fighter they know him
a red lentless.
Speaker 3: Fighter they KNOW i have a great gas tank in the,
fights so they knew they definitely know.
Speaker 4: HIM a big.
Speaker 3: Problem you, know whether WHETHER i say that he was
ducking me or.
Speaker 4: Not you, know that's, gonna you, know bring up a
whole lot of. Stuff people are gonna say this and.
Speaker 3: That but at that the, DAY i know WHAT i
could do in there With Canelo, auberas and he knows
WHAT i could do as. Well so you, know maybe
this this, fight the loss with him In Terrence. Crawford
maybe this puts me at a better position to get
a fight with, him because now what Is canelo gonna?
Do he doesn't have any, belts there's not really anybody
else for him to fight at one sixty. Eight in my,
opinion his best interest is to come up to one
seventy five Fight Callum, smith get a victory With Callum
smith or whoever however that fight plays, out and THEN
i could get the winner that. Fight you, Know that's
really what makes sense to me in my. Head but
LIKE i, Said canello could do whatever he. Wants you,
Know I'm i'm chasing my. Dreams you, know my dreams
are unifying the world world, championships the world. Titles Dmitri
bebo has. That so if whenever he fights him and
arts are better be. It you, know whoever gets whoever
wins that, fight you, Know i'm definitely gonna be pursuing
a fight with that with that person to unify the, belts.
Speaker 2: Which makes a lot of sense because you're the mandatory
and they're the two biggest, names and, honestly if you
take to look beyond the two of those guys and
then there's. Yourself of, course there's not a lot beyond
that in terms of true depth in the, division and
so hopefully at some point we'll see those. Fights but
one Thing i'm interested beyond that, is And you've said,
THIS i think in the past that at some Point
David benavitez is going to be a cruiserweight down the.
ROAD i found with interest that recently When oscar de
La hoya promoted his card in Between Virgil arties when
he had his fight against Ericson, lubin they did an
interview with him during the dizone broadcast and he was talking,
about you, know the return of from injury of the
unified cruiserweight title Holder Zerdo ramirez that he, promotes and
they were talking up the prospect of when he comes,
back would he do a you, know a big cruiseweight
fight against Ji, opataia who was of course THE ibf
and the lineal. Champion And oscar, said, yeah we'd love
to make that. Fight But denny, SAID i got another.
Idea he, said what would you think About Zerdo ramerez
Against David. Benavitez AND i was, like, yeah that's the
hell of a. Fight is your? FUTURE i know you
got stuff to accomplish that light heavyweight or as you,
said in your prime but in the maybe not too
just the future does cruiserweight Backing and what are your
thoughts about those fights that were, mentioned whether It's opataia
zero All mexican kind of.
Speaker 3: Battle to be honest with, you WHAT i, think it's
very clear That i've been trying to achieve greatness no
matter what weight.
Speaker 4: Class i'm that so right, NOW i got my file
With Anthony.
Speaker 3: Yard but If i'm able to get a fight With
Zula ramirez my next, fight then that's the Route I'm
I'm i'm gonna, take you. Know LIKE i, SAID i
want to be an all time great by the time
my career is. Finished AND i feel like if we
can make the fight With ramirez happen next AND i
definitely take that, fight you, know and then after that
we'll see what, comes you know WHAT i.
Speaker 4: Mean But i'm.
Speaker 2: Ready to also presented itself a fight Weell.
Speaker 3: Batio would be a great, fight but LIKE i, Said
i'd want to get my feet wet at the cruiserweight division,
first because in my, Opinion opataia.
Speaker 4: Is the strongest fighter at.
Speaker 3: Cruiserweight so IF i could get a fight With Suda
ramirez then come back down and.
Speaker 4: When and when the unify the titles in one seventy.
Speaker 3: FIVE i would definitely go back up to cruiserweight and.
Idle but it's a lot of great, fights you.
Speaker 4: KNOW i, Said we're in a great position right now
where there's so much good. Fights ALL i gotta.
Speaker 3: Do is continue, winning continue doing my. Part and BUT i,
will LIKE i, Said i'm a man of my. Word
i'm gonna give, them my fans the best fights. Possible
If i'm able to make these fights happen and negotiate
a deal with any of these, CHAMPIONS i am going
to take it.
Speaker 2: WELL i think the fans would be. LOVING i love
to hear, that and obviously it all starts in terms
of that. Pathway you got the big fight With Yard
november twenty two on his own pay per view By
David thank you very much for your. Time enjoy your.
Time you're on a business trip To Saudi. Arabia good
luck to.
Speaker 4: You, yes, sir thank.
Speaker 1: YOU i always pose this to you because you could see,
him you were talking to. Him first of, All i'm
not aware of this BECAUSE i have not seen the
video at the. Time you AND i are doing the.
Podcast was he already In Saudi, ARABIA i would assume,
Yes but what about the how did he look to?
You what about that part of?
Speaker 2: It, yeah he had just arrived At Saudi, ARABIA i
believe the previous day or maybe earlier in the day
WHEN i spoke him On. Thursday but the thing is
that we discussed his. Travel people can hear that in the.
Interview but the interesting thing was he didn't come directly
from The United states and make that long trip To Saudi.
Arabia it was a long, trip but he didn't go
To Saudi arabia. Directly what they did was they've been
training for the last three weeks In dubai the sort
of acclimate to the time zone, acclimate you, know similar,
weather and then make the trip To Saudi arabia obviously
a much shorter flight get From dubai to get To,
riad and you, know spend some time talking about adjusting
his training schedule and.
Speaker 1: Gave the good Answers he's always was forth coming in the.
Speaker 2: Interview no Listen. David i've Interviewed David benavide's numerous times
through the. Years i've covered many of his, FIGHTS a
very very good interview BECAUSE i feel like when he
answers your, question he's just telling, you like what it.
Is he's. Not there's not a lot of, posturing a
lot of. Nonsense you, know he's excited for the, fight
he's excited for the potential for big fights post this
and it as much AS i like to Watch benavid's
and it should be a good. Fight his yard is always,
in you know when he stepped. Up but he had
a tremendous fight With kovilev and a tremendous fight against Better.
Bv even though he ended up getting stopped in both of,
them they were both highly. ENTERTAINING i sort of figured
this will be the same scenario for this main, event
and then the rest of the card may even be
better in terms of the matchups on paper than the main,
event even though the main event is a good, fight
because you Got hainy Against Brian, norman you Got Sam
rodriguez Against Puma, martinez he Got Abdulla mason Against Sam,
noakes and there's a lot of meat on the bone
of this.
Speaker 1: SHOW i got you on that look forward to all of.
It nice, job nice, Hustle AND i know you said
this about thanking his publicist as well for helping line
all of this. Up Big dan's rocking and rolling killing
it here with the, interviews let's move on to some
news before we are. Done all, RIGHT i joked with
you at the top of the, Podcast Jake paul looking
for an. OPPONENT i said this to you a week
and a half. Ago Is Anthony joshua going to be
on the? Radar, well apparently it's more than just on the.
Radar they're in serious. Discussions, HOWEVER i have done this
long enough with you THAT i know what's coming here
in a, second So i'll go ahead and say. It
it's not. Done as you AND i are talking On thursday,
night it's not, done or you would have said to
me it's, done and here's what's gonna. Happen so it's not.
Done but how serious is this That Jake paul's gonna
Fight Anthony? Joshua give me.
Speaker 2: Gious it's very. Serious but to the best of my,
knowledge it is not.
Speaker 1: Done.
Speaker 2: UH i kind of think it probably will get. DONE i,
THINK i, MEAN i know.
Speaker 1: There's we discuss it and how preposterous it might or
might not. Be isn't it entirely possible that they're TRYING
mvp to finalize with somebody. Else and we've seen. This
we've seen this over and over, again not just WITH,
mvp but all over, boxing all over, negotiations that you
put it out there that you might be ready to
fight this, guy and now you go do something, else
like for, Example Jake paul thought that he had a
fight With Canelo alvarez back earlier this, year that, yes
all but, done but Can nanello left him at The
altar and did a multi fight deal With Turkey alischik
and said. Goodbye it wasn't. Done so isn't it possible
here they're dangling this because they're working on somebody else For. December.
POSSIBLE i guess it's.
Speaker 2: Possible BUT i think their target right now Is Anthony
Joshua and it's very. Listen sometimes it's about. Timing Anthony
joshua has been you, know he's rehabbed his. Injury he
hasn't fought since his knockout lost The duboi Last. September
Eddie hearn has said on a number of occasions that he,
would you, know probably return In, february but they were
going to try to get him out at the end
of twenty twenty, five they listed off the dates of
Shows Chris mannix did when they did an interview With
eddie on one of his recent dis own, broadcasts and
it was mentioned, that, Yeah Jake paul And Anthony joshua
was certainly possibility for one of those, shows although that
would not be a matchroom. Show that's obviously AN mvp
card that would be On. Netflix netflix is looking to
have a big event and once they decided that the
constant domestic violence issues that's Round Gervanta Tank davis were
not impatible palatable to, them and they ended up basically
forcing their hand to be to drop him from the.
Fight they needed to get another big. Name If jake
was going to keep the, date you can't just go
get it nobody For. Netflix so you, know they reached
out to all kinds of different people That Frances naganu
And Terrence crawford And Andre ward and you, Know Nate
diaz in a rematch and And Anthony joshua was part of,
that But joshua fits. Again this is this is separate
aside from whether you think it's garbage or it's nonsense or,
whatever but just in terms of the logistics of putting
a event. Together he fits the bill because he's he's
on their, schedule like he can be in the. Ring
he doesn't have to make, weight there's Not he's been
in the gym for the last you, know, however you,
know last month or, more and it's. DOABLE i think
what it comes down to, is As Eddie hearn talked, about,
look if they want to pay us tens of millions
of dollars to AND J, paul you, know why not do?
It LIKE i, mean how could you Blame Anthony? Joshua
you get offered you, know tens of millions of dollars
instead of you, know to fight These december ninth Or
december of what is it THE i forget the fifteenth?
Whatever That, friday the.
Speaker 1: Sixth the sixth Is. SATURDAY i know, that so it
would be the, thirteenth the twentieth On. Saturdays but are
they looking to do this on A?
Speaker 2: Friday, yes they're Looking they're gonna Do they're gonna look
to do on A, friday either the twelfth or the.
Nineteenth my point, is If joshua was gonna fight In,
december why not do it for tens of millions then
much much smaller money on a smaller. Card SO i
think that's the case that they're looking at. Now whether
it gets officially done or, not we'll see. It if
it's going to get done, officially you gotta figure it's
gonna get, done you, know literally in the next twenty
four to forty eight hours, thereabouts say, yeah.
Speaker 1: This is this is where my radar went. Up that
we're now like a full twenty four hour since this
is being kicked around and it's not announced. Yet so
if we get to Like, friday and we get To
saturday and there's not an announcement and there's not a,
deal then that just says to, ME i have no.
Insight i'm just in the cheap. Seats i'm putting that out.
There that says to, me they're trying to get somebody,
else and they're dangling this to finalize with somebody. Else
BECAUSE i have to believe some of the, people the
boxing people Around Jake paul are looking at, him, going
this guy is a former heavyweight, champion a big time.
Puncher still you can argue if his prime is, over
but still relatively close to his, prime do you really
want to get in there where they got watch and
watch The aganu fight and watch what, happened and do
you want that to potentially be. YOU i don't. Know
maybe he doesn't have anybody else that's going to say
that to. HIM i don't.
Speaker 2: Know it's Like Eddie hearn said when he spoke on
his own That jake calls crazy and SO i wouldn't
put it past him to do the. Fight we'll have
to wait and. Say But i'll say this from a boxing,
PERSPECTIVE i don't care If Anthony joshua is no longer
in his prime and is, diminished which he clearly. Is
but even that version Of Anthony joshua is way better
than A Francis, naganu A Na, diez A Tyron, woodley
a boxing version Of Anderson, silva a fifty eight year
old out of nineteen years in, Retirement Mike, tyson a
long faded a drug, addict And Julio sayzar Chab is
fighting forty pounds over his best. Weight Like Anthony joshua
is an, actual real top deals. Contender even if you
don't think he's at his, best he's still at. Worst
you know a guy that's in the top ten of
the heavyweight. Division you, know if you take into account
the fact he's been off a, year some people might
drop him because of the, inactivity but he also was.
Injured point, is this is like nothing else That Jake
paul will have ever seen in the. Ring and on
top of, that you're gonna be going from preparing for
a five foot, five one hundred and thirty five pounder
in an exhibition bout to a six foot, six two
hundred and fifty pound man in what they Didn't, obviously
the fight's not, official But i'm assuming that if it was,
done it would be an actual official. Fight there'd be
no reason for it not to. Be jake has fought
at two hundred and twenty seven pounds Against tyson, even you,
know and it's totally normal for a two hundred pound
cruiserweight to move up to fight in the heavyweight. DIVISION
i don't know why it wouldn't be an official. Fight
and so that's a you, know that's that's you, know
what's one hundred plus pounds between? Friends? Right?
Speaker 1: Oh it is.
Speaker 2: Crazy but the thing also, is, uh you, Know, Florida
i'm sure what's what's sanctioned the? Fight they'd sanction you
Against Anthony, joshua if you.
Speaker 1: Ask settled, DOWN i don't think, so BUT i actually.
Do BUT i live In. Florida but, okay SO i
asked this all the time we sit here On thursday.
Night you've called around on the realism. Meter what's the number? Six?
SEVEN i think it's like a.
Speaker 2: Seven and a. Half, Wow and here's your thing you talk, about, like,
well they got to get it. Done keep in mind
the people that are involved With Anthony joshua At Matural,
boxing they're a little busy right. Now they got this
humongous event that's taking place On saturday With ben and You.
BANK i, mean, yeah they can walk in chew gum
at the same. Time but you, know these things are
going to take a few minutes to get higron. Now
And i'm sure even if they agree to the, fight you,
know when you're dealing at this magnitude and It's netflix
and all this, money and you're dealing with WITH mvp
And Eddie hearn And Nikisa badarin FROM. Mvp although they
have worked together in the, past remember they were both
involved when they Did Katie Taylor Amanda, Serrano, RIGHT i
don't think they have the best. Relationship my point is
it takes a few minutes to get this type of thing.
Done they don't have a lot of time, obviously but
we'll have to wait and.
Speaker 1: SEE i, mean if you're working on basically one, month all,
right stay tuned on whether it actually gets, done and
then we have that's.
Speaker 2: A whole separate conversation of whether we think it should
happen or whether we like the fact that it's. Happening,
right the only silver lining IS i DON'T i think
it's just. Terrible but, whatever the reality, is if they
do make the, fight you can watch it On netflix
and it won't cost you money on pay per. View
the only thing you're giving up is your, time all.
Speaker 1: RIGHT a couple more things and then we're out of,
here all, Right Moses, atama you did talk about. This
it is now official For january the twenty. Fourth give
the details on the opponent and more or A thomas
return in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Six, yeah has expected he's. Going and AS i said
to you last, week they are not doing the The
Derek Tesora dylan, whitefight which originally there was talk That
moses would headline on that card or perhaps be on the,
undercard but because of the order by THE. Wba they
kind of got sidetracked with trying to get that. Situated
in any, event he's going to come back and Headline
january twenty. Fourth it's going to be at the Co
Op the Co Op live In, manchester which is the
new arena. There he's going to take on the very
battle test Of Jermaine, franklin who does have some, people
the boxing, FANS i, think you, know the diehards in
THE uk know. Him the good. NEWS i asked just
to double check this is not going to be pay
per view on The. Zone this is supposed to, be
from what they told, me a non pay per view.
Speaker 1: Fight oh, good, okay UNTIL i decide In january that
it is continue on my friend.
Speaker 2: Life is a fluid. Situation. YEAH i asked very specifically
when this was announced a couple days ago and was
told it is a regular Do, zone part of your normal.
Subscription let's see if they stick to. It the thing
About Jermaine franklin, is, look he's An american From, Saginaw.
Michigan he's got a good record twenty four wins and two,
losses fifteen. Knockouts he's thirty two years, old not an
old shot. Guy he's won three fights in a row
and the only time he's lost he went the. Distance
he lost a decision and Gave Anthony joshua a pretty good.
Fight he also lost a decision To Dylan white When
Dylan white was still somewhat decent. Before you, know he
didn't look so good in other, fights and of Course
Moses atama took him out in about two minutes in
the last. Fight, Yeah so the obvious thing, here if
you're The Queensberry promotions, people you've picked an opponent who
you strongly believe in should. Defeat you know that That
Moses thomas should. Defeat but you also look at it
as here's a guy that is going to get something
For moses And thoma that he desperately, needs and that's
a rounds if he Stops Jermaine. Franklin that's a big
statement in my, opinion Because Jermaine franklin has fought two
excellent punchers In Dylan white And Anthony joshua and never
came close to getting knocked out by either one of.
Them and so if A toma could somehow get rid
of this, guy that would be. Impressive the main thing
is get the young. Man some rounds have a top
off this, card which is going to also include you,
know they call it The Magnificent. Seven they've got like
seven fights for varying regional. Titles Willie hutchinson in the
co feature Against Ezra taylor in a light heavyweight, fight
which actually should be a pretty good. Scrap but the
main attractioneer is the next step in the career of
most of The, atama who is, still by the, way
the mandatory challenger assuming he wins for the regular title
that's held By. Poolev and in a corollary news item from,
that the wb AS i posted on My twitter and
wrote about this in my my, newsletter THE wba has
officially now granted the exception or they call it a
special permit For Kubrat poolev to defend Against gasieva that
takes place In, December december twelfth In. Dubai and but
they had to go through all the conditions Where moses
A toma is the next mandatory after, that and if
it's a, draw he still has to fight a to after,
that and he's allowed to do this fight With Jermaine
franklin and, YadA, YadA, YadA But the bottom line is
if If moses, wins he's supposedly fighting the winner of,
Pool Lef gassid in the next, fight negotiations to begin immediately.
Afterwards they have Till february ninth to make an, agreement
and they amended the purse with fifty to fifty the pool.
Left people are pissed off about. That and my perception,
is would you rather have fifty to fifty Against Moses,
atama which can really make you, money or seventy five
twenty five against a fight that means nothing and there
won't be any.
Speaker 1: MONEY i don't disagree with your math on. THAT i
will believe That Moses etama gives a crap and fights
either one of those guys WHEN i see it versus
a title. Shot stay. Tuned we that.
Speaker 2: Listen you can say what you. Want queensberry And atama
they would love to get the shot at the regular
title because it puts them on the path to bigger.
Titles that's the bottom. Line so we can mock THE
wba regular title they, want and it is. MOCKABLE i can,
Agree we've done a million. Times but to the boxers
and to the promotion, companies they are.
Speaker 1: Meaningful stay tuned a couple more real quick Ericson lubin
got demolished By Virgil ortiz a couple of weekends, ago
and now it says that actually he gave an update
that he is going to fight on. Right yeah he.
Speaker 2: IS i mean, he like you, said he got absolutely
smoked By. ORTIZ i think we all thought that he
would lose and That virgil would emerge as the victor
in that. Fight BUT i don't know if we would
have necessarily thought that he'd be knocked, out you, know
inside of ninety seconds or. So but that's what. Happened
it was a tremendous performance From Virginal. Ortiz we hope
he moves on to the big matchup Against. Boutsennis but
in the, Meantime, lubin you know, who did not do
an interview after the fight in the ring. Understandable don't
believe he appeared at the press. COMENTS i looked at.
THAT i didn't see him. There but he did make
a post on his social media On, monday and, look
he had a good attitude about. It he's, like, look
you Know, saturday you know he was a. Prisoner he,
Said i'm a prisoner of my own bad. HABITS i
think what he meant by that was laying on the,
ropes which was you know what really put him in
a lot of, trouble but that you, know you live
by the, story you die by the. Stord i'll be,
Back i'll be better next. Time i'll be at. Middleweight
so he has been a junior middleweight for a long
time and it's time maybe if he's going to continue
on with his crew to move up and maybe not
suffer to make the weight as. Much but we'll have
to wait and see what. Happens i'm not sure what
his future is at the heavier weight, class But i'll
tell you one. Thing the middleweight division is a lot
more open and a lot less taxing at the top
level than the junior middleweight, division so perhaps he might
be able to do.
Speaker 1: Something and one more, Note oscar de La, joia you
mentioned The Jake Paul Julio Caesar chavez main event In
passing that was In, Anaheim. CALIFORNIA i was there in
Late june on that. Card Zerto, ramirez the cruiserweight, champ
was in the co. Feature but he's got a shoulder,
problem had shoulder. Surgery what's the update on when he
might be.
Speaker 2: Back so during that broadcast Of Virgil ortiz Against Eric
slubin Our Pal chris did an interview With oscar to
talk about varying things That Golden boy has going, on
and one of the topics was the return Of Xerdo.
Ramirez as you, mentioned he did have the shoulder surgery
following his victory Against dordikos on that J Paul chavez.
Card it was always positioned at the time that it
took place he'd probably be out four to six. Months
oscar talked about having him back in the ring In
february against you, know a reputable, opponent and then after,
that if he were to be the, winner to try
to make him a big. Fight and so the suggestion From,
chris AND i think most boxing mans would be, like,
oh going to try to make The opataia. Fight opataiah
has a fight coming up in a you, know before
the end of the, year and certainly that would be the,
crown the number one fighter in the, division unify, three the,
titles lineal, Title let's take really good. Matchup and he, said,
yeah of course we'll be interested in making a fight With,
Opataia but what about. This imagine Imagine Zerdo ramirez Against David.
Benavidez that If David benavide's were to win his upcoming
fight that we had the interview about that he has
With Anthony, arden at some point he moves up to.
Cruiserweight that would be a pretty big. Fight, also that's
a great you know, all you, Know mexican Against Mexican. American,
obviously both guys with with good styles and you, know
can can get into a. Fight you, Know deserda more
of the boxer compared To, benavidia's BUT i feel like
maybe those styles would nest pretty. Well so he he
broch that. Topic the point is we're going to See,
ZERO i hope back in the in the first couple
of months of twenty twenty. Six hopefully they put him
in with a, good solid, opponent defend the, title and
then from there Hopefully opataia, next and then maybe by
that point we'll see the move up to the, division,
know to the cruiserweight division Of David, benavidez and at
some point they get that fight. On but Uh zerto
is going to have some good OPPORTUNITIES i think for
some good fights in the cruiserweight.
Speaker 1: Division all, right plenty of news here as, well chalked
full on the preview. Pod we again remind you that coming,
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Earlier i'm actually headed To, Buffalo New, York Western New.
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