Speaker 1: Welcome to another deep dive. Today. We're gonna be tackling
Speaker 1: Jakarta E security, okay, and you know this is a
Speaker 1: big topic. Yeah, so we're gonna be looking at the history,
Speaker 1: the core concepts, and you know how it all actually
Speaker 1: works in practice.
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 1: You've been kind enough to share with us the definitive
Speaker 1: Guide to Security in Jakarta Ee. Yeah. And just glancing
Speaker 1: at the cover, it's beautifully designed.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: It is by E Studio Kalamar and the image is
Speaker 1: from Vincent law on unsplash.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: Really speaks to the collaborative spirit of Jakarta E.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 1: But enough about the aesthetics. Let's get into the nuts
Speaker 1: and bolts of Jakarti E security. We're going to uncover
Speaker 1: some surprising history along the way and really look at
Speaker 1: how it functions in the real world.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to.
Speaker 1: So to kick things off, maybe you can take us
Speaker 1: back in time a little bit too, those early days
Speaker 1: of Java when security wasn't really top of mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, going back to the late nineteen nineties, Java
Speaker 2: applications were just starting to become more complex and the
Speaker 2: need for security became a but it wasn't really a
Speaker 2: primary concern when Java was first design.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like trying to add seat belts
Speaker 1: to a car after it was already built.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: They had to kind of bolt it on later, and
Speaker 2: that led to some interesting.
Speaker 3: Challenges they called technical debt right exactly.
Speaker 2: And one of the first attempts to address this was JAS,
Speaker 2: the Java Authentication and Authorization Service. It actually started as
Speaker 2: an extension to Java one point three and then later
Speaker 2: became part of Java one point four.
Speaker 1: Okay, so JAS comes on the scene. How does that
Speaker 1: initial approach to security shape what came next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so JS laid the groundwork for what eventually became
Speaker 2: Jakarta Authentication. It was originally called JAOF, and jaof's aim
Speaker 2: was to standardize the way authentication worked, especially for web
Speaker 2: applications running in containers like tom Kat and JBoss, and
Speaker 2: then as JS evolved and integrated into Jakarta EE, it
Speaker 2: led to the development of Jakarta Authorization and then eventually
Speaker 2: Jakarta Security.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. So you have this kind of progression from this
Speaker 1: initial attempt bolt on security to something more robust exactly.
Speaker 2: But there's another really important piece of the puzzle that
Speaker 2: came from outside the Java e World. Okay, and that
Speaker 2: was an open source project called a CG security.
Speaker 1: A CG security that rings a bell. I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of developers I knew were really drawn to
Speaker 1: a CG. What was it about that project that sort
Speaker 1: of captured people's imaginations?
Speaker 2: It really addressed some of the limitations of the existing
Speaker 2: Java E security mechanisms at the time.
Speaker 3: Okay, and it was.
Speaker 2: So popular that many of its concepts ended up being
Speaker 2: incorporated into jacarti E security.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the indie band that gets
Speaker 1: so popular it goes mainstream exactly. Okay. So we have
Speaker 1: this infusion of ideas from a CIG How does that
Speaker 1: really impact the jakarti E security that we know and
Speaker 1: use today.
Speaker 2: It made jakarti E security more robust and also more
Speaker 2: developer friendly and powerful.
Speaker 1: So this history is important. Understanding this history helps us
Speaker 1: understand how we got to where we are.
Speaker 2: Definitely. Yeah, it gives us valuable insight into how it works,
Speaker 2: why it works the way it does.
Speaker 1: Okay, history lesson aside. Let's be honest, security can be
Speaker 1: a bit of a maze. It can, especially with all
Speaker 1: the jargon. Yeah, so maybe before we dive too deep,
Speaker 1: let's define some key terms just so we're all on
Speaker 1: the same page. Sure, So when we talk about security,
Speaker 1: what are some of those fundamental concepts that we really
Speaker 1: need to grasp.
Speaker 2: Well, a great place to start is with what's known
Speaker 2: as the CIA triad, confidentiality, integrity, and availability.
Speaker 1: The CIA triad.
Speaker 2: These are like the fundamental principles of information security, right,
Speaker 2: and they kind of go hand in hand. So confidentiality
Speaker 2: that means that sensitive information is only accessible to those
Speaker 2: authorized to see it makes sense. Integrity means that the
Speaker 2: data hasn't been tampered with and it remains accurate. And
Speaker 2: then availability ensures that authorized users can access the information
Speaker 2: when they need it.
Speaker 1: Of those three, confidentiality, integrity, and availability, which one do
Speaker 1: you think is the most challenging to kind of maintain
Speaker 1: in today's environment where we've got all these inner connected
Speaker 1: systems and applications.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. They each have their own unique challenges,
Speaker 2: but I think availability is probably the most difficult to guarantee.
Speaker 1: Okay, so availability meaning keeping the systems up and running accessible.
Speaker 2: Exactly because there's so much reliance on cloud services and
Speaker 2: interconnected systems that if you have a single point of
Speaker 2: failure that can have cascading effects and impact the availability
Speaker 2: of critical applications and data.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Now, let's clear up another common point
Speaker 1: of confusion. What about authentication versus authorization? Okay, yeah, what
Speaker 1: are the key differences there?
Speaker 2: So authentication is about verifying your identity? Right, are you
Speaker 2: who you claim to be? It's like the bouncer at
Speaker 2: a club checking your ID?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Authorization comes after authentication. So once your identity has been verified,
Speaker 2: what are you allowed to do? So? Can you enter
Speaker 2: a restricted area? Can you access specific files? That's authorization
Speaker 2: in action.
Speaker 1: So it's like a two step process. Prove who you
Speaker 1: are and then what you can do?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, now within your car to eth These concepts are
Speaker 1: further refined through what are called principles and roles. What
Speaker 1: are those?
Speaker 2: So a principle is basically any entity that can be authenticated.
Speaker 2: But it could be a user, it could be a system,
Speaker 2: it could even be a device. And then rolls are
Speaker 2: used to group principles with similar permissions. Okay, So for example,
Speaker 2: you might have an admin role that has access to
Speaker 2: system settings and a user role that has more limited access.
Speaker 1: Right, So you're basically categorizing users or systems based on
Speaker 1: the level of access they should have exactly. All right, now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the classic ways to kind of prove
Speaker 1: who you are. Classic something you know, like a password, right.
Speaker 2: Or something you have like a token or a security
Speaker 2: a key, and.
Speaker 1: Then the more modern approach something you are like a
Speaker 1: fingerprint or a facial scam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, biometrics.
Speaker 1: So what are some of the trade offs that developers
Speaker 1: need to consider when choosing between these different authentication methods.
Speaker 2: Well, each approach has its strength weaknesses. Passwords are convenient
Speaker 2: but vulnerable to attacks. Biometrics are more secure, but they
Speaker 2: can raise privacy concerns.
Speaker 1: It's always a trade off, right, security versus convenience, security
Speaker 1: versus privacy Exactly. You have to find the right balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, we've been talking about these different ways to authenticate,
Speaker 1: but Jakarta E also supports two main approaches to implementing security,
Speaker 1: declarative and programmatic. Right, what are those and maybe what
Speaker 1: are some of the trade offs there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So declarative security is all about setting rules through
Speaker 2: configuration files or annotations. Okay, It's a really streamlined approach
Speaker 2: that works well for common security scenarios.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like having a pre configured security system
Speaker 1: in place.
Speaker 3: Exactly, just set the settings and go yeah.
Speaker 2: And then programmatic security, on the other hand, gives developers
Speaker 2: more control and flexibility because they can write code to
Speaker 2: enforce specific security rules. So which one you choose kind
Speaker 2: of depends on the complexity of your application and how
Speaker 2: much customimization you need.
Speaker 1: Right. So, declarative is sort of like you know, off
Speaker 1: the shelf, and programmatic is more like building your own
Speaker 1: customs solution exactly, right. So we've laid some groundwork, we've
Speaker 1: defined some key terms, we've looked at the evolution of
Speaker 1: security and Java. In part two of our deep dive,
Speaker 1: we're going to start really digging into the specifics of
Speaker 1: Jakarta authentication and Jakarta authorization.
Speaker 2: Great, can't wait, Stay tuned. Now, let's dive into Jakarta authentication,
Speaker 2: which is all about verifying those identities acting as the
Speaker 2: gatekeeper for our applications. Right, and we'll focus here on
Speaker 2: the servelet container profile, a key piece for web applications.
Speaker 1: So, how does Jakarta authentication work with those you know,
Speaker 1: those old workhorses, those servelet containers like Tomcat and JBoss.
Speaker 2: It integrates seamlessly with them, leveraging the container's existing security
Speaker 2: mechanisms to provide that robust authentication framework.
Speaker 1: Right. So it's working with the container, not against it, exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: So walk us through how this authentication process actually unfolds. Sure,
Speaker 1: what are the steps involved?
Speaker 2: So imagine a user is trying to access a protected resource, right,
Speaker 2: their browser is going to send a request to the server.
Speaker 2: The server then checks if that resource requires authentication.
Speaker 1: And if it does.
Speaker 2: If it does, then the authentication mechanism kicks in. Okay,
Speaker 2: and this is where the server ofth module comes into play.
Speaker 1: Okay, So server off module this sounds like a pretty
Speaker 1: important piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, what role does it.
Speaker 1: Play in this whole process?
Speaker 2: The server off module is really at the heart of
Speaker 2: JA card authentication.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It's highly configurable. It acts as a plug in point
Speaker 2: for custom authentication logic, so it's.
Speaker 1: Like a specialist security guard you can train to follow
Speaker 1: specific rules for your application exactly. So the server off
Speaker 1: module could interact with a database to validate user credentials
Speaker 1: or even connect to some external identity provider exactly.
Speaker 2: And it can use various callbacks to gather information from
Speaker 2: the user the user name and password, and then validate
Speaker 2: those credentials against an identity store.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've authenticated our user right now, what how
Speaker 1: does Jakarta authorization step in to figure out what they
Speaker 1: can do what they can access.
Speaker 2: So, Jakarta authorization focuses on fine grained access control. It
Speaker 2: takes the security constraints that are defined in your web
Speaker 2: dot XML or through annotations and translates those into concrete
Speaker 2: permissions that can be checked at run time.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like enforcing those rules about who
Speaker 1: can access what within the application precisely.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like if you have an admin dashboard that should
Speaker 2: only be accessible to users with the admin role, Jakarta
Speaker 2: authorization would enforce.
Speaker 1: That rule, gotcha. So it's making sure that only the
Speaker 1: right people get to see that admin dashboard exactly. Okay.
Speaker 1: That's pretty powerful, that ability to kind of control access
Speaker 1: at that level.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Now, what about those situations that require more complex rules,
Speaker 1: more than just those simple role based checks. Can Jakarta
Speaker 1: authorization handle that kind of nuance?
Speaker 2: It can? Yeah, Okay, you can create custom authorization modules
Speaker 2: to implement more intricate authorization logic.
Speaker 1: So for those really edge cases. Exactly, you've got that flexibility. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: good to know. Now, let's shift gears a little bit
Speaker 1: and top of Jakarta security and how it aims to
Speaker 1: make life a little easier for developers. Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1: It provides this kind of higher level API that sits
Speaker 1: on top of Jakarta authentication and Jakarta authorization.
Speaker 3: It does the thinking there.
Speaker 2: It just streamlines the whole process of implementing those common
Speaker 2: security tasks in web applications.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You can think of it as this pre built security
Speaker 2: system with all the essential features already in place, so.
Speaker 1: You don't have to reinvent the wheel every time you
Speaker 1: build a new application. Exactly, You've got the toolbox already there, right. Okay.
Speaker 1: So one of the key interfaces I understand in Jakarta
Speaker 1: security is the HTT authentication mechanisms. Yeah, does that do?
Speaker 2: So that's what enables you to implement the different authentication
Speaker 2: method like basic authentication, form based authent okay, or even
Speaker 2: those custom solutions.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, We've been talking about a lot
Speaker 1: of this kind of technical stuff and I just thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm curious, have you ever run into one
Speaker 1: of those capture things? Online where they ask you to
Speaker 1: identify the fire hydrants or the crosswalks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those CAPTCHAs, Yeah, exactly right, all the time.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're everywhere these days. Yeah, what do you,
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think of those?
Speaker 2: I think they can be effective in preventing automated attacks,
Speaker 2: but they're also kind of annoying for users.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are so I'm a human, I swear. Okay,
Speaker 1: back to Jakarta's security. We were talking about the HTT
Speaker 1: authentication mechanism, right, and how that helps developers implement those
Speaker 1: different authentication methods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it provides a consistent way to plug in those
Speaker 2: different mechanisms and handle the authentication flow.
Speaker 1: Now, what about those remember me features we see on
Speaker 1: websites all the time. Oh yeah, how does Jakarta security
Speaker 1: support that kind of functionality?
Speaker 2: So Jakarta Security allows for persistent authentication, which is a
Speaker 2: essentially the mechanism behind those remember me features.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It enables users to stay logged in for an extended
Speaker 2: period without having to repeatedly enter their credentials.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's convenient for the user, but it's also
Speaker 1: you know, there's some security implications there.
Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely, you have to be very careful about how
Speaker 2: you implement that remember me functionality.
Speaker 1: What are some best practices there? What should developers keep
Speaker 1: in mind?
Speaker 2: So you want to make sure you're using secure token
Speaker 2: based approaches, okay, You want to implement robust token expiration mechanisms, right.
Speaker 1: So the tokens don't last forever exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want to educate your users about the
Speaker 2: potential risks, especially.
Speaker 1: About staying logged in on shared devices.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, good point.
Speaker 1: Good point. Now, I understand that your Karda's security also
Speaker 1: integrates nicely with CDI context and dependency injection.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 1: How does CDI help to kind of streamline the whole
Speaker 1: management of these security related components.
Speaker 2: So CDI is kind of like the nervous system of
Speaker 2: your application. It connect the different parts and manages the dependencies.
Speaker 2: And with Jakarta security, that means easier management of those
Speaker 2: security related beans and services.
Speaker 1: Okay, So CDI is kind of taking care of all
Speaker 1: the wiring behind the scenes, so you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about it as much.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's nice, less for the developer to worry about it.
Speaker 1: Right now, we've been talking about user initiated authentication, like
Speaker 1: when you click on a log in button. But what
Speaker 1: about those situations where it's the container that initiates the authentication,
Speaker 1: maybe to access.
Speaker 3: A particular resource, right, Yeah, does.
Speaker 1: Jakarta Security handle that as well?
Speaker 2: It does. It handles both scenarios gracefully.
Speaker 1: Okay, So whether the user wants to log in or
Speaker 1: is first to log in, Jakarta Security's got it covered.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It provides that comprehensive framework for handling those authentication flows
Speaker 2: in web applications.
Speaker 1: That's great. Now, we've been focusing a lot on web applications, right,
Speaker 1: but what about Jakarta Faces. Okay, how does Jakarta Security
Speaker 1: apply in that context?
Speaker 2: So Jakarta Security is equally relevant in Jakarta Face's applications.
Speaker 2: It allows you to control access to specific UI components
Speaker 2: or actions based on user roles and permissions.
Speaker 1: So you can use those annotations like at roles allowed
Speaker 1: and at servelet security to kind of fine tune access
Speaker 1: control even at the level of individual UI elements precisely,
Speaker 1: so you could have a button that only certain users.
Speaker 3: Can see, exactly, or a.
Speaker 1: Form that only certain users can submit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very powerful in terms of protecting sensitive information
Speaker 2: and actions.
Speaker 1: Really gives you that granular control. Yeah, okay, so we've
Speaker 1: got this comprehensive solution for managing security in both servelet
Speaker 1: based and Jakarta Faces applications.
Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 1: It's quite a toolkit, it is. Now it's important to
Speaker 1: remember that security is not a one time thing. This
Speaker 1: is an ongoing process.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to the vigilant, you have to stay.
Speaker 3: Up to date exactly.
Speaker 2: Staying up to date with the latest best practices and
Speaker 2: security updates is absolutely cruefl for building and maintaining secure applications.
Speaker 1: It's a never ending battle. It is now explored a
Speaker 1: lot within the realm of Jakarta E. But let's take
Speaker 1: a step back for a moment and look at the foundations. Sure,
Speaker 1: the java SE elements that underpin all of this. All right,
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you have to understand the foundation
Speaker 1: of a skyscraper, right, Yeah, you can't just appreciate the
Speaker 1: fancy design on those top floors without knowing what's holding it.
Speaker 3: All up exactly.
Speaker 2: Jakarta E security wouldn't exist without those core elements from
Speaker 2: java SE, right, and understanding them gives you a much
Speaker 2: deeper appreciation for how security works at all levels.
Speaker 1: Okay. So let's start with JA, the Java Authentication and
Speaker 1: Authorization Service. Okay, we talked about it a little bit before,
Speaker 1: but now let's look at it from that Java SE perspective.
Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, JA is considered like the granddaddy of
Speaker 2: Java security, Okay, and it's still very relevant today.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: It provides this framework for implementing custom authentication logic even
Speaker 2: outside of Jakarta.
Speaker 3: Ee.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned these custom logan modules earlier. What exactly
Speaker 1: are those and how do they fit into JMEA module?
Speaker 2: You can think of it as like a specialized authentication routine.
Speaker 2: So let's say you need to authenticate users against a
Speaker 2: legacy system that doesn't follow standard protocols, right, you could
Speaker 2: write a custom login module to handle that specific authentication process.
Speaker 1: So it gives you that flexibility to adapt to unique
Speaker 1: situations exactly. Okay, that's really valuable. Now, what about cryptography.
Speaker 1: How does Java SE handle the need to protect sensitive
Speaker 1: data both when it's stored and when it's transmitted over networks.
Speaker 2: That's where JCE comes in, the Java Cryptography Extension.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: JC it's basically your toolbox for all things cryptography, and Java.
Speaker 1: So provides the tools that developers need to encrypt data,
Speaker 1: generate keys, implement different algorithms, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Exactly. JCE is a very powerful framework that supports a
Speaker 2: wide range of cryptographic operations.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And it also allows developers to plug in different cryptographic
Speaker 2: implementations through what are called JCE providers.
Speaker 1: Okay, JCE providers, what are those?
Speaker 2: So let's say you need to use a specific encryption
Speaker 2: algorithm that's not provided by the default providers in the JDK.
Speaker 2: You can then incorporate an external provider like bouncy Castle,
Speaker 2: which offers a wider range of algorithms.
Speaker 1: So it gives you that flexibility to choose the best
Speaker 1: tool for the job exactly. Okay. You know, we can't
Speaker 1: really talk about security without mentioning TLS Transport layer security, right.
Speaker 1: It's what makes secure communication over the Internet possible.
Speaker 2: Absolutely essential for protecting data in transit.
Speaker 1: Right. So that's what ensures that your credit card information
Speaker 1: is safe when you're shopping online, your confidential messages are
Speaker 1: protected exactly. Now. I think most people are familiar with
Speaker 1: that little padlock icon in their browser that indicates HTTPS.
Speaker 1: But what's actually happening behind the scenes to make that
Speaker 1: secure connection possible.
Speaker 2: So TLS uses a combination of public key, cryptography and
Speaker 2: digital certificates to establish that secure channel between your browser
Speaker 2: and the web server.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It's a process called an and shake where the two
Speaker 2: parties basically exchange cryptographic keys and verify each other's identities.
Speaker 1: So it's making sure you're talking to the right website
Speaker 1: and that nobody's eavesdropping in the middle.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. What about different versions of TLS,
Speaker 1: I know there have been several over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's very important to use the latest and
Speaker 2: most secure version, which is currently TL's one point three.
Speaker 1: Okay, TLS one point three, got it.
Speaker 2: It has significant improvements in both speed and security compared
Speaker 2: to older versions.
Speaker 1: Good to know. Now we've covered those foundational elements in Java,
Speaker 1: se JAS, JCE, TLS. Yeah, but when we talk about
Speaker 1: managing identities on a larger scale across multiple applications, you know,
Speaker 1: entire systems, we need more sophisticated tools, right, and that's
Speaker 1: where identity management solutions come in.
Speaker 2: Exactly. They're essential for organizations that need to manage users, roles,
Speaker 2: and permissions across a whole ecosystem of applications.
Speaker 1: So instead of every application having its own separate security
Speaker 1: set up. You can have this kind of central system
Speaker 1: that handles authentication authorization for.
Speaker 2: Everything exactly, which makes things much easier to manage.
Speaker 1: Much more efficient. Yeah, so what are some popular identity
Speaker 1: management solutions that kind of build on top of those
Speaker 1: job su security foundations we talked about.
Speaker 2: Two well known open source solutions are Shibballeth and key Cloak.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've heard of those.
Speaker 2: So Shibaleth it focuses on federated identity and single sign
Speaker 2: on or SSO, using the MML protocol and SSO is
Speaker 2: a great feature because it allows users to log in once.
Speaker 1: I love single sign on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very convenient.
Speaker 1: You log in once and you have access to all
Speaker 1: your applications exactly.
Speaker 2: It makes things much smoother.
Speaker 1: So how does shibaleth actually make that possible.
Speaker 2: It relies on a trust relationship between an identity provider
Speaker 2: or IDP and service providers or sps. So the IDP
Speaker 2: handles the authentication and then the sps rely on the
Speaker 2: IDP to verify the user's identity.
Speaker 1: So the user logs into the IDP once and then
Speaker 1: they can seamlessly act all those different sps without having
Speaker 1: to log in again.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's great. Now what about key cloak. How's that different
Speaker 1: from shibbaleth So key.
Speaker 2: Cloak is a more versatile identity management solution.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It supports MML, but it also supports other protocols like
Speaker 2: oh OFF and open id connect.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a Swiss army knife of
Speaker 1: identity management.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's more feature rich, you can handle more scenarios.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: What are some of its like standout features.
Speaker 2: Well, it offers fine grained authorization, which allows you to
Speaker 2: define very specific permissions for users and roles.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It also supports user federation, which means it can connect
Speaker 2: to various user directories.
Speaker 1: Right like if you're using LDAP or active directory or
Speaker 1: something like that, Exactly, you can hook into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it also provides a very user friendly administration console
Speaker 2: for managing all aspects of identity and access.
Speaker 1: So it's really a comprehensive solution, it is. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we've come a long way in this deep dive we have.
Speaker 1: You know, from the early days of Java when security
Speaker 1: was kind of a afterthought to these really sophisticated frameworks
Speaker 1: and tools that we have available today.
Speaker 3: It's been quite a journey, it really has.
Speaker 1: So I think our listeners are now equipped with a
Speaker 1: solid understanding of.
Speaker 3: Jakarta EE security I hope so.
Speaker 1: And the broader landscape of identity management solutions. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's important to remember this is an ongoing journey, it
Speaker 1: is security is never truly done. What do you think
Speaker 1: are some of the biggest challenges facing Jakarta E security
Speaker 1: in the years to come, and how can the community
Speaker 1: continue to address those challenges.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. As technology evolves, you know, new
Speaker 2: threats are always emerging, right, so staying ahead of the
Speaker 2: curve requires constant vigilance, collaboration, and a commitment to continuous learning.
Speaker 1: So we all have a part to play, we do,
Speaker 1: and making sure that our applications and our systems are
Speaker 1: secure exactly. Well, on that note, I think it's time
Speaker 1: to wrap up our deep dive into Jakarta E Secure.
Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1: It's been great having you here. I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: sharing your expertise with us. You're welcome, and I hope
Speaker 1: our listeners have found this exploration insightful and engaging. We too,
Speaker 1: So until next time, stay curious, and stay secure.