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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>make mistakes, you won't learn. With your host Corey Winfield,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there was a reason why that didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can look back at it and go, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that didn't work out how I wanted it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would have been horrible. Got your ass. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the fourteenth of August twenty twenty five. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Cory Winfield and joined by a very special guest today.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Corey Smoker.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Smoker, how are you doing, Corey?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. We did a podcast earlier and we were trying

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<v Speaker 1>something new. We were trying the video podcast that all

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are doing. Technical issues with the microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know what, we set it up and

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<v Speaker 2>we sure did give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we did. And that's how you learn, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is by doing things, usually by failing, and then you realize, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>next time, we'll don't move or use different microphone or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know something. We had the little wireless go

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<v Speaker 1>microphones and it picked up some movement, so so.

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<v Speaker 3>We just realized that I'm gonna keep using this big

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<v Speaker 3>awkward one, but you know it works for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's well, that's a real microphone. You're using the

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<v Speaker 1>same microphone Joe Rogan uses. Oh my god, that's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I probably should investigate because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even think I know who Joe Rogan is.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. He's a very funny guy. He's a good he's

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<v Speaker 1>a very funny comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>He's does he do a lot of podcasts?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like maybe I did hear some of his stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never listened to a Joe Rogan podcast. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's good. I like Joe Rogan. There's nothing against him.

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<v Speaker 2>So you like him.

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<v Speaker 3>You've never listened to one, and I don't really particularly

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<v Speaker 3>know who.

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<v Speaker 2>He is, but I think I want to say I

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<v Speaker 2>did hear.

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<v Speaker 1>One, but I don't I like his stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now I got something I get to look up

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<v Speaker 2>my free time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, Corey's busy for a few days or

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<v Speaker 1>at least ten minutes. And you were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you never know, and I might in that could

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<v Speaker 3>be one hundred percent of true. I was, I might

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<v Speaker 3>already know him. I might have already seen him. I

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<v Speaker 3>just I'm not really good at the names and the

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<v Speaker 3>faces and all that when it comes to people.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And he actually brought a little bit of legitimacy

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<v Speaker 1>to podcasting because I remember when we first started back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen and I did the podcast Keep Myself Sober,

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<v Speaker 1>and people were like, oh, you do a podcast. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when I wanted to start helping people, and I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed like transportation was an issue, and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>NMRI and was like, hey, this is an issue. Open

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<v Speaker 1>one's doing it. And they're like, h But first they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, we're not going to give you money for

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast. I'm like, well, I'm not even asking. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even talking about my podcast. I'm talking about transportation.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, but I don't know. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things were now if you start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>like I've heard someone say like Joe Rogan's podcast got

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<v Speaker 1>Trump elected, so now you know, fast forward like six

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<v Speaker 1>years or whatever, and it's like, oh, no, podcasting is important,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're talking about something that people are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in or want to listen to, then yeah, it is important.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I feel like the podcasting has kind of

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the last I mean even five years it's

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<v Speaker 3>gained a lot of traction. I know, when I come

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<v Speaker 3>in here in the morning, it seems you're always listening

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<v Speaker 3>to some kind of podcast of someone, and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>like I hear you know, and different recovery realms of saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, oh, well listen to this person on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>or listen to this one or so I do feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it's really taken traction in the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people do listen to them, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like little clips that people can watch and that's way different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a radio guy, so for me, like

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<v Speaker 1>this feels natural for me, and if someone wants to record,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with it. But it does add a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch more work as I'm trying to find it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's some clips that I think we can use

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<v Speaker 1>from what we did, but I have to find them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like now I got to edit the video

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<v Speaker 1>and sinking it, and so it's it's another hour, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, at least of work, which I'm fine doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, my wife just called and said,

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<v Speaker 1>where's my husband. It's like, so it's hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>those hours sometimes, you know, it's yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you have you have that information for on

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<v Speaker 3>that day that you do want to find that clip

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<v Speaker 3>like we've been kind of you know, talking about now

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<v Speaker 3>that we're looking at different directions that you even if

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<v Speaker 3>there is no voice behind it, it can go on

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<v Speaker 3>the website. And here is a you know, just a

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<v Speaker 3>short clip of us sitting in our recovery center. We

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<v Speaker 3>were out in the lobby, you know, sitting there looking

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<v Speaker 3>at each other, talking or looking around. And now you

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<v Speaker 3>have them clips if you need to use them for something.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, absolutely, and sometimes you just have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would give this advice is someone who wants

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<v Speaker 1>to start a podcast and it could be something that

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<v Speaker 1>keeps you sober. Absolutely, it kept me sober. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we talked about on the podcast that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear that you're hearing now, is I use the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast as a way to keep myself sober. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>use AA, some people use cooking. Some people one guy

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<v Speaker 1>you guys met uses the birds. He's a falcon ear

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and I would definitely want to

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<v Speaker 1>meet him.

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<v Speaker 3>He has like a wild so it's a rescue so

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<v Speaker 3>when someone calls and there's a hurt bird, or he

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<v Speaker 3>goes and gets them and rescues them and to his

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<v Speaker 3>best ability as he tries to get them back to their.

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<v Speaker 1>Habitat and sober living for birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he was going when we met seen him yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>he was left there early to jet out.

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<v Speaker 2>He was going to Macinaw City to pick up an eagle.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. That's pretty cool job. And and I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned like, hey, I need to come hang out

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<v Speaker 1>and do some more events or like be around us

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<v Speaker 1>because you know the I'm not going to call him

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<v Speaker 1>out or nothing, but he's in recovery supposedly. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know. I'm not talking for him, but maybe he is,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's not. But I think that kind of person

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<v Speaker 1>is good to have around people, because you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some sober living homes here in Traverse City, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like when we go golfing next month or

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<v Speaker 1>whenever we do that, you know, to have somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>him around too, just to be around, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>these newcomers can come in and they can see these

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<v Speaker 1>people and they were like, wait, you save birds. That

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<v Speaker 1>could keep somebody sober and you never know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's just about making that connection right of

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<v Speaker 3>what you know, he turned to birds and in his

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<v Speaker 3>recovery and he said, you know that helped him grow

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<v Speaker 3>and now he's using that in trying to He does

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<v Speaker 3>like different classes and he does different things of bringing

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<v Speaker 2>In their habitat.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was saying something to me and Marnie about

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe that's something one day he could do

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<v Speaker 3>with some of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in recovery.

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<v Speaker 3>Is we could go out to where he is where

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<v Speaker 3>the birds and we could see, you know, what he

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<v Speaker 3>does or he does practice flying with them and so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be cool as long as we can film it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sure he wouldn't love that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. And you talk to someone in

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<v Speaker 1>AA NA whatever smart recovery dharma. If you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who uses their what do you want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>their passway or passion pathway, Yeah, whatever they choose, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you that that is the best one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You should do it. And I do it too with purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people that you need goals, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>have purpose in life, because that's what I feel moved

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<v Speaker 1>me past the hump to get me over the the drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna, you know, say that people that go

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<v Speaker 1>to AA are going to say, no, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to AA. That really worked, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>because it's such a life changing to have life back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even life changing like that. To live life

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<v Speaker 1>again and to be free is just such an amazing feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>We want everybody to have that, like I want everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who's struggling to have this well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's because right we're now, we're advocating.

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<v Speaker 3>We want we see the other people that are hurting.

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<v Speaker 1>We see that thought it was never going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to us one time too, and we know what these

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<v Speaker 1>people are thinking. And that's why it's like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it can happen. It will happen. Just don't give up.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately some people it takes. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why we're here. It's not up to us to sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and go God, why did you save me? We

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<v Speaker 1>just know that he did. And now there's a passion

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like a fire that you can't put out

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<v Speaker 1>to help other people. That's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I want to just shake them to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So your parents and you're like, oh, I'm shaking my

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<v Speaker 1>son right now. Yep, we get it, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>and our parents wanted to shake us, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't, you know. But to be here on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of it, though, seriously, is it's amazing and I

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<v Speaker 1>want everybody to feel this. And Corey was the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>If she thought it was never gonna happen to her

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<v Speaker 1>and only have some other people until that thing happened

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<v Speaker 1>to us that made us get in geared a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me it was fear, fear of being that

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<v Speaker 1>person that killed somebody in a drunk driving accident or

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<v Speaker 1>being that I don't want to be that. Nobody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be that person, you know. And for me to

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<v Speaker 1>have blacked out, oh, drink responsibly, don't drink and drive, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was black, I don't remember, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a setup. I thought the cops had set me up,

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<v Speaker 1>that my mom. I thought everybody was in on it.

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<v Speaker 1>They even wanted so far to scrape the side of

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<v Speaker 1>those effing cops. And after I woke up and missed

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<v Speaker 1>four days or whatever, and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I and that's what I knew. It wasn't. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I drove. I was like, I drove and holy hell,

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<v Speaker 1>what was I doing? And then that's when that's when

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<v Speaker 1>the fear released it Like where was I going? Because

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the only place we can think that the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I just know. The guy followed

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<v Speaker 1>came too with him beating out my window going what

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, you almost killed somebody, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm then it's snowing outside, him in pajama pants

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing. That's efing scary. And I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but your TV commercials that tell me to drink responsibly

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<v Speaker 1>that went out the window a long effing time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole don't drive drunk. Yeah, I tried not to.

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<v Speaker 1>are good, I'll wait for them. I could have went inside.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very similar.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't intentionally set out and be like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't ever my plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have to tell these people who make alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and the alcohol warnings how alcohol works. Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the federal government? No, they know and they

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<v Speaker 1>love it because it brings them money. See, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think the government cares about you, I'm sorry, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm sorry that I have to break this too.

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<v Speaker 1>The government does not give a shit about you. Didn't care, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>you just you die. In the goal away and they're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how the government works. Same thing with the states,

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<v Speaker 1>state of They don't care. They'll they'll tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>they care about you and that they want to see change,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you bring them ideas and you give them

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<v Speaker 1>proof of how you've affected change, and they go, nah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're saving lives. We saved a thousand lives probably, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. They're just going to keep giving them money

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<v Speaker 1>to their friends. And I don't care if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>give it to us, because there's other means and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. You know. I'm not going to sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and kiss their ass. There's other organizations that do

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<v Speaker 1>that already. I don't need to. I'm trying to help people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I want. I want to help people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pay employees. Well, yep, that's it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go home play with my kid.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're going to keep and so we just have

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<v Speaker 3>to keep keep advocating, keep moving to the next moving

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<v Speaker 3>on to the next place, whether we gotta you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and we got to keep It's just like we never

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<v Speaker 3>know who is the right person to talk to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when we do find someone that has a

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<v Speaker 2>That can go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because if this is the community I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in for twenty years, as I raised my son, like,

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<v Speaker 1>something's going to need to change, or I'll pick another

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<v Speaker 1>community to live in. You know, this isn't the best

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<v Speaker 1>place in the world. I don't know any place is

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Well, there's one place that's the best place

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. I mean, that's obviously why you call

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<v Speaker 1>it the best place in the world. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>find that place. Maybe I'll move there. But and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying every place has to be like perfect, because

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's perfect and everything's a little jumbled here there. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the people in the community, the elderly, the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have mental health issues, behavioral health, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call it, you know, sud goes right in there gambling.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many people out there that need help,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of people in this area that

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<v Speaker 1>could make that happen with nothing. You know, it would

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<v Speaker 1>take nothing for them to be like, oh, here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see my community better. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>think but I don't know how to talk to those people.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's the middle class. Maybe we're the ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do it. I don't care who has

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but somebody does have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And just because there's oh, this organization is doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't mean they're doing it right. No, doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've seen way too many times where it's not

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just money just keeps funneling through and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, hold on, you know, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>have friends that are representatives here in the state, and

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<v Speaker 1>that can affect changes in the laws. So if that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I need to do, that's what I need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was even suggesting me that I run

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<v Speaker 1>for office, like and I'm like, dude, And people thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good idea. A couple of people from

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<v Speaker 1>here this area thought it was a good idea and

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<v Speaker 1>I are you to run? Yes? And I said no,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what would happen? Like I would They

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<v Speaker 1>would be on the news like I would probably punch

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in the face the first day. It would be bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you would have a stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend Ron, he was just excited. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, dude, they would be the best day ever.

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<v Speaker 1>The popcorn he would have it already be kicked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here comes Corey watch this shit like because he knew,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows, like I would lose my ship. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just telling me. He's scratching the surface of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, I'm going to advocate for your best interests,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather you.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be horrible, It would be the worst. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Michigan would love it, probably especially Trump

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<v Speaker 1>supporters will love it. But like I think everybody would

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Well yeah, and that in the whole state

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan Senate, all the houses, all of them. They

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<v Speaker 1>would hate me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that there would be people I would

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<v Speaker 2>You and support far back. They would, yes, But I

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<v Speaker 2>just for Corey Winfield himself. I don't think that that

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<v Speaker 2>arena is your arena.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could always try.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. Let me tell you about the book Cherry Concert.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should just President Parker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, that was a funny one. I love parenting

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<v Speaker 1>with Marnie because it's so fun because I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about drone because I'm I'm very fearful. Well that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole nother podcast. But I'm afraid that he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like cameras and doing film and radio and and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, and what if he doesn't like it? Marty,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, he's gonna like what he likes no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>What's like, You're not gonna te him what to do

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<v Speaker 1>and then how to be. I said, Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>want to ride your bike in traffic, son, no helmet,

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<v Speaker 1>go on, go be your man, Go go go beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Parker you want to be. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can take him down to the wherever I go

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<v Speaker 1>to get his name changed and get his name changed

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<v Speaker 1>to president like it should have been if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast before. I said to Marty that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to name him president, so that way his name

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<v Speaker 1>would be President Winfield and that would just be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always think about like first second grade teachers

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<v Speaker 1>and then the substitute doing roll call President Winfield, Will

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<v Speaker 1>Parker hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, give me two coffees please. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it'd be funny but yeah, so it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny that sweet cream in my coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>I started going down the rabbit hole of all these

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<v Speaker 1>horrible situations where I'm like, no, Parker, go ahead, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you want to jump out of the plane with no parachute,

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<v Speaker 1>just go You be your own man, Parker. You do

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<v Speaker 1>what you want. Your mom said, she just stopped talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, she started watching The Hunters Club

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<v Speaker 1>or some show. And I'm like, honey, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>way funnier than the show is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, that's just Cory being funny because he's so scared.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you just doing that sit Yeah. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well, because my mind goes really far places.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when the Sober Living, you know, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, there's a lot of things I wouldn't do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like what do you mean? I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to push my mom off a bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna have sex with you know. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>started naming like all kinds of crazy stuff. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent Like if you needed a job, I'm like, O, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get a job. What I mean donald's. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>for McDonald's. No, I've never worked at McDonald's and that

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<v Speaker 1>work at McDonalds or live under a bridge, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like yeah, I'm like, okay, well I could

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<v Speaker 1>tell that point it wasn't going to work out. I

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want to go to the other one

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<v Speaker 1>because there was eighteen people there and those one dude

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<v Speaker 1>that I hated was going to that house too, and

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<v Speaker 1>But I ended up going there, and then of course

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<v Speaker 2>But them are just some life lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>but but you did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I did, like you saying, you know, like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that was the one job. Like everything I

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<v Speaker 1>next to me, boom, right next to me, Please don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at me. Bathrooms, boom, bathrooms. It was eighteen news

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna suck, guess what going to suck? If

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<v Speaker 1>you can go into it like you know what, I'm

419
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<v Speaker 1>gonna put these clothes on. I'm not gonna get any

420
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<v Speaker 1>pubes on my hands, nothing like that. I'm spraying the

421
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<v Speaker 1>shit out of everything. And when I sat down, I

422
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<v Speaker 1>was the first one to use the toilet afterward, and

423
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<v Speaker 1>I passed that along the story and it really does work.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was clean. Man. I took my time

425
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<v Speaker 1>just joining the clean bathroom upstairs in Nathan's house two

426
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<v Speaker 1>six thirty one Boint Avenue.

427
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<v Speaker 2>But I mean there's even.

428
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<v Speaker 3>That feeling of knowing, like when you get in the shower,

429
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<v Speaker 3>like is that you know it's clean every Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then I gotta throw people's away because the

431
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<v Speaker 1>rule that Jason the beckcat at Nathan's house, you don't like,

432
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<v Speaker 1>he gave you a shower caddy. He's like, here you go,

433
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<v Speaker 1>put all your stuff in here. Take this in the

434
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<v Speaker 1>bathroom with you when you leave, take it out. And

435
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<v Speaker 1>well people would be like, eh, at my house, I

436
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<v Speaker 1>just leave my shampoo right here in the shower. Much

437
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<v Speaker 1>easier at your house it is, but with an eighteen

438
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<v Speaker 1>people can you imagine eighteen different bottles or even six

439
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<v Speaker 1>or seven, that's too many. And so Jason would be like,

440
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<v Speaker 1>you don't leave your stuff in there, So I throw

441
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<v Speaker 1>it all away. And then, like one dude was like,

442
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<v Speaker 1>maybe if someone keeps throwing away with a shrimp Poojason's like, wait,

443
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<v Speaker 1>someone's thrown away your saying your shampoo and he's like yeah, Jaysoni,

444
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<v Speaker 1>Well let's get to the bottom of this. So what

445
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<v Speaker 1>room are you And he's like okay, He's like, so

446
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<v Speaker 1>someone's going in your where do you keep it in

447
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<v Speaker 1>your well? No, I had it in the bedroom. Well

448
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<v Speaker 1>you had it in the in the bathroom, like in

449
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<v Speaker 1>the cup. No, in the shower. Oh, no, no, no,

450
00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to do that. So that whoever cleaned

451
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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom threw it away, So that's what they're supposed

452
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<v Speaker 1>to do. Yeah, well that's mossed up.

453
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<v Speaker 2>That's the rule.

454
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<v Speaker 1>That's how it goes. And then he did it again,

455
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<v Speaker 1>and then you have the balls to bring it up

456
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<v Speaker 1>in guys, and you stopped and were shot and pooh

457
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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I'm leave it in there again. I want

458
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<v Speaker 1>to go clean the bathroom right now to see if

459
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<v Speaker 1>it's in there. I throw it away. But it became

460
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<v Speaker 1>it became something that I didn't mind because I just

461
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<v Speaker 1>changed it as Okay, I'm having fun throwing peoples stuff away.

462
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<v Speaker 1>I know it's clean because the other well, one guy

463
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<v Speaker 1>for sure half asked it and he never even cleaned it.

464
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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, are you here to half ass things

465
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<v Speaker 1>or are you here to learn how to live sober? It's

466
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<v Speaker 1>doing those things that, Okay, that means you need to

467
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<v Speaker 1>do it. Is it gonna hurt you physically? Meant it? No? Okay,

468
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<v Speaker 1>Well you're gonna mess around and catch some sobriety. Like,

469
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<v Speaker 1>what is the worst that's gonna happen? You just cleaned

470
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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. You did something for when you get done.

471
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<v Speaker 1>Guess what dope mean, Spike, go mow your yard. Look

472
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<v Speaker 1>at it. When you're done, you feel good, it looks good.

473
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<v Speaker 1>You have that same reward. It's finishing something that you start,

474
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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's part of the stuff that it's

475
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<v Speaker 1>teaching you. And then I would carry that over and

476
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<v Speaker 1>Marty and I got to the apartment and I know

477
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<v Speaker 1>she worked hard, and i'd clean her bathroom and I'm

478
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<v Speaker 1>the first time I did it. It was took me

479
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<v Speaker 1>two minutes, like it was nothing. She's not a nasty,

480
00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>hairy guy, you know, Like it was it was easy,

481
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and she really appreciated it. And I texted to back

482
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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, dude, cleaning the bathroom for your

483
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<v Speaker 1>beautiful sexy wife, girlfriend, fiance, whatever she was at that time,

484
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<v Speaker 1>is so much better, dude than twenty dudes, you know.

485
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<v Speaker 1>And it took two minutes, nothing, and she really appreciated it.

486
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<v Speaker 1>And I need to do it more. But I carried

487
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<v Speaker 1>it over, you know, and it feels good to do

488
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<v Speaker 1>things for people, and something is like cleaning the bathroom.

489
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<v Speaker 3>And it's just teaching you them things of them, simple

490
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<v Speaker 3>life skills of us.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Right when so then when we leave the Sober Living

492
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<v Speaker 2>and say we even have our own spot. It's probably

493
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<v Speaker 2>a good idea that you clean your bathroom.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, And I mean I cleaned my bathroom before,

495
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<v Speaker 1>But but it's doing it for other people. And when

496
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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm cleaning the bathroom for the Sober Living house, yeah,

497
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<v Speaker 1>I'm cleaning it for me and being selfish and greedy,

498
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<v Speaker 1>but I'm also doing it for everybody else, Like I

499
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<v Speaker 1>don't want someone to come home later that night, and

500
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<v Speaker 1>like who supposed to play the bathroom today? It looks

501
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.440
<v Speaker 1>like shit because I heard that a lot not on

502
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<v Speaker 1>my days, yep, And that's what I wanted to do.

503
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't want to half ass cleaned something

504
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the Jason to beckcom and then he yells at me

505
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.880
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't even clean a bathroom, Come on, you know,

506
00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's in me, It was it was in me.

507
00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I could have definitely tapped into the just get the

508
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<v Speaker 1>pube off the corner. No one will know.

509
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<v Speaker 3>But there's also too sometimes where I've I've had to

510
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<v Speaker 3>remember because even just in past like jobs and co

511
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<v Speaker 3>workers of that, not maybe not everybody was fought the same.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Way of cleaning.

513
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<v Speaker 1>M and that's the thing too.

514
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<v Speaker 3>That is the thing and and of course, and it's

515
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<v Speaker 3>remembering that when we get sober, we're adults. And so

516
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<v Speaker 3>then we look at this age and this number, that

517
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<v Speaker 3>we're this old, and that we're supposed to know.

518
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<v Speaker 2>These things, and sometimes we're not.

519
00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:01.680
<v Speaker 3>We don't get humble enough to add can just say that, hey,

520
00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 3>I might need help because this is this is a

521
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 3>skill I lack in or you know, I lived in

522
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<v Speaker 3>a house where cleaning was not a thing, you know,

523
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<v Speaker 3>and that's okay, And so it's like it's just one

524
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<v Speaker 3>of them some areas again of like right, asking for help. Yeah,

525
00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 3>especially us people in recovery, most of us understand like

526
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:27.039
<v Speaker 3>when we're asking for help, it really there's nothing that's

527
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<v Speaker 3>dumb because maybe it's just something we missed along the way.

528
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<v Speaker 2>In our life.

529
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, nobody ever taught me how to change oil.

530
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<v Speaker 1>M I mean, I could probably take it to a

531
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<v Speaker 1>place to have it done. I mean, if I wanted

532
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<v Speaker 1>to learn, I could do. I could learn how to

533
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>change oil, you know, but I'm not going to be like,

534
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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm so stupid, so I don't know

535
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<v Speaker 1>how to change my oil. No, if I wanted to

536
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<v Speaker 1>learn how to change my oil.

537
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<v Speaker 3>I could, yeah, but I just think it's the that's

538
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 3>just some skills of we have to be It's the

539
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.799
<v Speaker 3>willingness right too, of are we going to just sit

540
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<v Speaker 3>there and be like, well, I don't know, I can't

541
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.039
<v Speaker 3>or or you know, like you were saying, can you

542
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.279
<v Speaker 3>go in it with that open mind? And what's the

543
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.039
<v Speaker 3>motivation of why we're doing this? Because I want to

544
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.359
<v Speaker 3>learn it, because you know, I just want to learn it,

545
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 3>or whatever the case may be.

546
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<v Speaker 1>And in the other podcast that we did that Nobody's

547
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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear, we kind of talked about goals and having

548
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 1>purpose and stuff like that. And then people like their dreams.

549
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Because if you came to me seven years ago, I'm like, hey,

550
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:40.319
<v Speaker 1>so your dreams to make a movie. And I'm be like, well,

551
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? That's not my dream is

552
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 1>make a movie? What? But my dream is to make

553
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>a movie now. And if I say that to somebody,

554
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>they probably roll their eyes and be like okay, and

555
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, that's cool. They don't understand my dream, but

556
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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going to do that. And it's the fear

557
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of what other people think sometimes that will keep people'

558
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>stuffs and I do fear. We have a project coming

559
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 1>up that we're gonna start here in a couple of weeks,

560
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<v Speaker 1>and I am freaking scared. Man. I think I can

561
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<v Speaker 1>do it. And I was talking to my friend Bob

562
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<v Speaker 1>this morning. We had coffee and we kind of he's

563
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<v Speaker 1>a painter, but he also kind of started doing side

564
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.079
<v Speaker 1>jobs too, because he'd be painting a house and somebody like, hey,

565
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>can you fix this trim or can you fix that?

566
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 1>And he had worked on enough job sites with other

567
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<v Speaker 1>people and seeing people do stuff and this and that

568
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 1>where he's like, yeah, yeah, I can do that, and

569
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>he's never done it before. But yet now he is

570
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<v Speaker 1>in a position where someone asked him he's like sure,

571
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, it's kind of the same situation

572
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that I'm in where it's like, I've never done this before.

573
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I've never made a movie before, but like leading up

574
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 1>to making that movie, I've learned a lot along the way,

575
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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's gonna put push me through this fear.

576
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I hope, but I'm going to do it. We have

577
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 1>a date set, you know, and that's the most important thing.

578
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>So back to me telling someone who's starting a podcast

579
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>some advice, don't give up. Don't do it to be

580
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 1>rich or famous. Do it because it's something that you love.

581
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's about recovery, about your recovery. If you can

582
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.640
<v Speaker 1>do that about your recovery and keep yourself sober, then

583
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you win. I don't care if you have one listener,

584
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 1>you win. Every single episode you're winning, and ten years

585
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 1>from now someone might catch that episode. And that's another thing.

586
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 1>You never know who's going to catch that and hear

587
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it and go wow, that's the same thing I'm going

588
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 1>through at this very moment. Because God does work in

589
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.279
<v Speaker 1>mysterious ways. So don't give up on it. But I

590
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it to be rich and famous. I would

591
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.759
<v Speaker 1>do it to just get some stuff off your chest.

592
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you want to have some fun with your buddies

593
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 1>and you want to do a fantasy football podcast, whatever, man,

594
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, you know, like, do it, but don't

595
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>give up. And do it for the right reasons, is

596
00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 1>what I would say, because when you started doing things

597
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>for money, it just doesn't work out, at least in

598
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>my experience.

599
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, and it's I mean, it's kind of like that

600
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>for anything we take. We we're more apt to study

601
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 3>a course because it's something we want to learn, we

602
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 3>want to do. Then when we're forced or just doing

603
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 3>it because oh well I get paid to do this,

604
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 3>well that's no fun, right right, And it's and it's

605
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 3>the recovery piece about it is it's putting our passion.

606
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Into it, showing up.

607
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>We will put one hundred and ten percent into it

608
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.640
<v Speaker 3>because this is what we like to do.

609
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 2>It's what we want to do, and it's you know,

610
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and then oh cool.

611
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm getting paid to do this too, you know.

612
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 3>And that's it's not always we're getting paid to do something,

613
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 3>but it's just about like finding that spot where you

614
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 3>can just show up to be one hundred percent who

615
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>you are and what you're doing that purpose is you know,

616
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:00.799
<v Speaker 3>what you want.

617
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 2>To be doing.

618
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it changed everything in my life, you know,

619
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and not wanting to go back in radio. And then

620
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the things that God just kind of puts in in

621
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<v Speaker 1>the way and I say in the way they are

622
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and he'll pull the rug and you'll be like what

623
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>then you just have to just ride the churuse man

624
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>like there it's a test and there's a reason why

625
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<v Speaker 1>things change and things shift shift, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like to open the podcast opened, you know, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that things didn't work out. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was times where I was beating my head against the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>going man, we got to do this, we need this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it didn't work out and I'm like no.

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<v Speaker 1>And then months or weeks later, I look back and go, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that didn't work out, because that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to do. That would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>total waste of time, waste of money, waste of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, sometimes when we're in it, we can't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just like, no, but I gotta do this. I

637
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<v Speaker 1>gotta do this. They said I have to do this

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of misinformation. But then it doesn't and

639
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<v Speaker 1>then you look back and you're like, wow, I'm so

640
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<v Speaker 1>glad that didn't work out that way, or that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't waste any more time. And as mad as I

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<v Speaker 1>was and I looked up, I remember going, God, what

643
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<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to do? He's telling you you just

644
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<v Speaker 1>got to listen. You gotta pay attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes that's right. But I wanted to do this over here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we can't. We just can't let it go for

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<v Speaker 3>a minute, right, Yeah, And then when we can and

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<v Speaker 3>we get when we get it's when we get to

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<v Speaker 3>the other side and we're like, oh, okay, well all right,

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we brought enough attention to the transportation issue because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like everybody and their brother wants to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're says they're doing it. So maybe I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get any funding from the state of Michigan,

655
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<v Speaker 1>so maybe they have it all figured out. Maybe every

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<v Speaker 1>single person who wants to go to treatments getting there, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just like, okay, well, then these other people

658
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<v Speaker 3>are going to try it. But we don't know, we

659
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<v Speaker 3>don't know what the bigger picture of this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be. At least we know that, you know, for

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<v Speaker 3>in your heart, I want you to know that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people know that Corey Winfield to seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>he was the one that started two seventeen, two seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>two seventeen, and now there is a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>that are bummed that we're not doing it, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, these other places are going to try to

667
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<v Speaker 3>start doing it, and you know, my biggest thing is

668
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<v Speaker 3>I can just hope that you know, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get the people to treatment as well, safe and reliable

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<v Speaker 3>and if that means for us, now we got to

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<v Speaker 3>shift at a different different gear right now. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>we you know what I mean, you started that, you

673
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<v Speaker 3>showed how it to be done. Now other people are

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like, you know what, now they're following that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, something that you did.

676
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<v Speaker 3>So now we're going to go in a different direction

677
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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna help. Where's the other gaps of where

678
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<v Speaker 3>we can help.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's plenty of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you have to do. And you can

682
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<v Speaker 1>have an attitude of oh we're gonna pound crame, we're

683
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<v Speaker 1>going to do this, We're going to do or you

684
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<v Speaker 1>can just figured out, you know, and listen to God,

685
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, because God's been saying a lot of stuff

686
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to me for a while and it's just a natural like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, cool, transportation is covered. I'm glad we took

688
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<v Speaker 1>care of that, you know, because I kind of think

689
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<v Speaker 1>like we did. And I remember when they first released

690
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<v Speaker 1>their transportation grants, Brandon from DG. Chesskin was like, yeah,

691
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<v Speaker 1>we thought of you and we got this transportation going.

692
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<v Speaker 1>We didn't give it to you, but that's all right,

693
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 1>we got to hook up our friends or whatever they do.

694
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<v Speaker 1>But that's cool as long as they're getting people to treatment.

695
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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see their numbers. I asked them for

696
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<v Speaker 1>them because I was like, hey, how do you Because

697
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<v Speaker 1>they gave them to twenty people, twenty organizations, and if

698
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<v Speaker 1>one who didn't get the funding from them could do

699
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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundred rides in three years, Holy cow, They've probably

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<v Speaker 1>got forty thousand people that they've taken to treatment. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see those numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one day they'll lo okay, it leaves to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't think they were. I think about to

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<v Speaker 1>do a Freedom of Information Act, but the numbers aren't

705
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<v Speaker 1>going to be close to ours. Unfortunately, the forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because if they were doing something that was that good,

707
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<v Speaker 1>they would be telling people about it and people wouldn't

708
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<v Speaker 1>be calling us asking for rides of treatment, even though

709
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<v Speaker 1>they've called their insurance or whatever they're supposed to do

710
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<v Speaker 1>like that didn't show up what we just we could.

711
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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully at least we put enough. I know I did.

712
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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to enough people at the State of Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>that they know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean there's still people here that are you know,

715
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<v Speaker 3>they're still advocating. Look at we got gran Trevers County

716
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<v Speaker 3>Jail yesterday, you know, and to put the piece together

717
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<v Speaker 3>with the Maynistee County in Benzie County jail. You know,

718
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<v Speaker 3>I called her up and I'm like, I don't know

719
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<v Speaker 3>if you work with this client he's in Benzie County.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, yep, we'll pay for it. Good to go,

721
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 2>just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so, you know, and then now reaching out and

723
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<v Speaker 3>make we're get in a little bit more connected down

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<v Speaker 3>in Benzie County as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we just got to keep on advocating. They

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<v Speaker 2>know we're here.

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<v Speaker 3>They you know, there are certain courts and judge that

728
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<v Speaker 3>they rely on two seventeen to get their people there

729
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<v Speaker 3>because they know what we do, what we're about, and

730
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<v Speaker 3>that we get them there every time.

731
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<v Speaker 2>There's no fault, there's no guy didn't make it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just, you know, we just got to keep

733
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<v Speaker 3>advocating in one little sometimes it's it's little baby steps

734
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<v Speaker 3>in it. We want I think we want bigger strides

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<v Speaker 3>because that's just we feel, you know, we're we're strong

736
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<v Speaker 3>and knowing what we are doing and what the impact

737
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<v Speaker 3>does make we hear it all the time. We have

738
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<v Speaker 3>we have clients now that are in sober living or

739
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 3>they're living on their own now that we have helped,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see the progress in it.

741
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<v Speaker 2>And so it just takes a little time.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of time I have, I have very little

743
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<v Speaker 1>left on this podcast today obviously because my wife wants

744
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>my home.

745
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 2>She does in that little that little Parker.

746
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Windfield at home is going to be so excited when

747
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<v Speaker 3>his daddy comes through the door.

748
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<v Speaker 1>Well, big smiles on his face. But I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention to check out restored Voices dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Check that out and exciting new project.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, check that out. Tell me what you think. Got

752
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<v Speaker 1>some ideas, send them to Corey C O. R I

753
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<v Speaker 1>at two seventeen recovery dot com. That's why. Also on

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<v Speaker 1>my junk mail now as to your email.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Corey Winfield.

756
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<v Speaker 1>Check out the app if you don't have it yet,

757
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>get it's free. Let's go to your app store to

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen Recovery. You can listen to the very first episode

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<v Speaker 1>ever and I had three months, so where all right?

760
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<v Speaker 1>Listen to Corey what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, oh geez, pretty soon we're going to be starting

762
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<v Speaker 2>a new show called I don't know what day yet,

763
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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to do the Corey and Corey Show.

764
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<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought that was the name of the show

765
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<v Speaker 1>of like we don't know what day? Yes, name show. Yeah, Okay,

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00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 1>we don't know what day yet, Coming soon, but first

767
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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do that Restorative Hoists project. Check it out

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<v Speaker 1>also resources online two to seventeen recovery dot com. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>you later oday. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>Recovery podcast. Listen to over nine hundred episodes on the

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