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hot seat treatment. Here at his Senate confirmation hearing, Tom
Tillis is.
Speaker 2: Questioning the food because the dictates of the federal government
have made it something that they don't want. But they say, well,
it's a healthy alternative ass processed materials in it, and
it's not particularly attractive to them, so they throw it
away trash cans full of food that these kids said neat.
So then what do they do? They go eat snacks?
Are they go eat a sure? They drink a sugar
drink Snap program. Everything you've said about the Snap program
I agree with. I think that we should be very
very strict about that, and it's going to make some
people uncomfortable in the food manufacturing segment produce healthy foods
that we can put in the SNAP program.
Speaker 3: That's the way to address it.
Speaker 2: But we also need to look at the school health program.
I was PTA pros ad at twenty one twenty two
years ago at my daughter's high school, and I feel
like we've got these kids that need help. We've got
to guide them through a process. Many of them are
probably on Medicaid, and medicaids fell on them. Everybody here
says Medicaid is sacricing. Nobody's admitted that Medicaid is not
producing positive health outcomes. Is that your problem in Medicaid
right now? The program are the outcomes?
Speaker 3: Is the outcomes?
Speaker 4: We're spending nine hundred billion dollars, our people are getting
sicker every single year. Yeah, So anybody wants people to
have Americans to have a high quality insurance.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's building a case for the status of Medicaid
is by extension saying that they're happy with the outcomes.
Speaker 3: I think it's unacceptable.
Speaker 2: I do have a question for you on Project Warp Speed.
We supported the Cares Act. We had ninety seven people
in the US Senate vote for it. Everybody here, there's
only one member of Congress that voted against it, I believe,
and Project Warp Speed had CDC, FDA, NIH, and BARDA
very much in the mix. Now, some people think that
you're going to come in here and insert yourself into
those agencies in a way that's never been done before.
Speaker 3: Let's say that.
Speaker 2: They're part of a future Project Warp Speed. Is that
your intent to go in and do something that's ever
been done before, based on my staff's research, and insert
yourself in a discussion that the scientists are dealing with
in those different agencies.
Speaker 4: No, Senator, what I want to do is I'm not
a scientist. I want to empower scientists. I want to
make sure that science is unobstructed by vestent or economic interest.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: I had culture, and I'll just say about Operational Warp Speed,
it was an extraordinary accomplishment, should demonstration of leadership by
President Trump. He when he promoted Operation Warp Speed, he
was looking at all of the different remedies, including.
Speaker 2: Vaccines, therapeutics, their arapeutic.
Speaker 4: I remaged any oxychloric in, vamptidy and even chlorine oxide
all and he was not looking at shutting down our
country for the year, forcing people to wear masks for
a year, all forcing all social distancing that did not
have any scientific basis, which doctor Fauci is now acknowledged.
Speaker 3: He said, we took it out of thin air.
Speaker 4: Oh but my h but all of those changed during
the Biden administration and it became very narrowly focused. We
ended up with the worst, the highest death count of
any country in the world.
Speaker 3: Miss terrifying.
Speaker 2: Can just ask one final question, and I think it's
a one word answer. I've heard a lot of people
complaining about healthcare delivery medicaid on the other side of
the das here, who's been responsible for health care policies
over the last four years, The Biden, I mean the President,
the Biden. Okay, So I'd like to have heard more
of those in I resite hearings over the last four years.
I haven't, But I'm glad that there's an acknowledgment that
you're inheriting a problem that needs to be fixed.
Speaker 3: Thank you, all right?
Speaker 1: So that was Tom Tillis questioning RFK Junior, Robert F.
Kennedy Junior. He is the HHS Secretary nominee Health and
Human Service. As Secretary by Donald Trump, He's expected to
get a rough go of it. I've seen a couple
of clips so far, and I was watching earlier before
the show started, so but I just jumped into it. Sorry,
I didn't mean to pull the fire drill there, but
I just looked up and saw Tillis on the mic,
and so I figured let's just start there. So, welcome
to the program. News Talk eleven ten ninety nine three
WBT seven O four five seven zero eleven ten. The
email is Pete at Thepete calendarshow dot com. Now, before
before the show started, I was watching and uh, Senator
Elizabeth Warren challenged RFK Junior, and uh, I don't think
it went the way she thought it was going to go.
This she was speaking, Oh now we got Bernie Sanders.
Oh my gosh, it's an embarrassment of riches. I can't
help myself. Okay, let's listen to people. As a human
right yemen.
Speaker 4: No, I will say, Senator, I can't give you a
yes or no qu answer that question.
Speaker 1: Is healthy healthcare of human right? A human right.
Speaker 4: In the way that freeze peach yuman right? I say
it's different because if with free speech doesn't cost anybody anything,
but in healthcare, if you are smoke cigarettes for twenty
years and you get cancer, do you you are now
taking from the pool? Well, so are you guaranteed the same?
Speaker 5: Ranifi they're also looking Sorry, I'd love to talk for
an hour with you.
Speaker 3: We got a few minutes later.
Speaker 1: I don't want that answer.
Speaker 5: Every other country says healthcare of you're poor or rich,
younger role to human rights.
Speaker 3: I'm not hearing you say that.
Speaker 5: All right, You've talked about the drug companies, and maybe
we agree on this one. As you will know, despite
the drug companies making over one hundred billion in profits
paying CEOs outrageous compensation packages, we in some cases pay
ten times more for the same drug. Will you support
legislation that I will introduce which says that in America
we should not be paying a nickel moore for prescription
drugs than people around the rest of the world. Yes, No,
to equalize it, not to equalize it, that we should
not be paying more than other countries of the same
damn drug.
Speaker 4: President Trump, it has asked me when, in fact, I
had a meeting with President Trump a week ago where
we showed him the charts. He knows the charts were
saying ten times more from Europe.
Speaker 5: That's right, And are you going to commit to us
that you will end that absurdity.
Speaker 4: I think in principle we can, we should, we should
end that disparity.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's great, all right, yeah, but you.
Speaker 1: Can't have happened. You got to see the bill. What's
the legislation there?
Speaker 5: Bernie is real, It's an existential threat, and it is
a healthcare issue. Donald Trump thinks that it is a
hoax originating in China. Question is in your judgment, is
climate change a hoax? Or is it real causing devastating problem.
Speaker 4: President Trump and I from at the beginning, from our
first meeting, agreed to disagree on that issue. I believe
is ebstential. My job is to make Americans healthy again.
Speaker 5: Do you believe that you disagree with he just said
that you don't think climate change is a hoax?
Speaker 3: Is what I'm hearing?
Speaker 5: My job here, I'm just asking you, let's say, Kenny,
not a true question.
Speaker 4: I answered your question, Senators, Okay, you disagree with the
President on that.
Speaker 3: I answered your question.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to pick up on a point that
Senator Hassen made. Look, there is no question that abortion
is the visive issue in this country. I would say
a majority of the people are pro choice. There's a
strong minority who are pro life. A year and a
half ago, you went to the Hampshire running for president,
gave a speech and you talked about government should not
tell a woman what she can do with her own body.
Speaker 1: That's her choice.
Speaker 5: Now I think I think everybody on that side is pro life.
I think everybody here is pro choice. I have never
seen any major politician flip on that issue quite as
quickly as you did when Trump asked you to become
HHS secretary. Tell me why you think people should have
confidence in your consistency and in your word when you
really made a major u turn on an issue of
that importance in such a short time.
Speaker 4: Senator, I believe, and I've always believed, that every abortion
is a tragedy, but you.
Speaker 5: Told the people to New Hampshire that it was there. Right,
all right, let me do a last question because I'm
running out of time.
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't even answer to suggestion.
Speaker 5: What you are trying to say today is you're really
pro vaccine.
Speaker 3: You want to ask questions.
Speaker 5: You have started a group called the Children's Health Defense.
You're the Originia. Now, is I understand that on their
website they are selling what's called onesies, these little things
clothing for babies. One of them is diled, unfacted, unafraid.
Next one and the sould for twenty six bucks a piece.
By the way, next one is no vax no problem.
Now you're coming before this committee and you say you're
pro vaccine, just want to ask some questions, and yet
your organization is making money selling a child's product to
parents for twenty six bucks, which cast fundamental doubt on
the usefulness of vaccines. Can you tell us now that
you will, now that you are pro vaccine, that you're
going to have your organization take these products off the market.
Speaker 4: Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not
you've heard of it. I resigned from the board that
was just a few months ago. You founded that you
certainly have power you could make that. How you support
above this, I have had nothing to do with you.
Supportive of these onesies?
Speaker 3: I'm supportive of vaccines.
Speaker 5: Are you supportive of these this clothing? But oh my
godly anti vaccine?
Speaker 4: I am supportive of vaccines. Well, I want good science
and I want to protect.
Speaker 5: But you will not tell the organization you founded not
to continue selling that product.
Speaker 1: Thank you, miss so ridiculous, all right, he is so ridiculous.
He doesn't have any control over the organization anymore. Like
I want you. This is defender. Disavow right, disavow this onesie, sir.
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We have been eves dropping or jipping, if you will,
joining in progress. I guess it would be jing yips
joining in progress. I guess it would just actually still
be JIP. So we're jip. That doesn't sound right though.
We're dipping the confirmation hearing of rf K Junior, just
kind of dipping in and out listening to some of
the high points or low points as it were. One
of said low points was just Bernie Sanders there, and
Eric says, Pete, there's no way you can listen to
that socialist senator Bernie Sanders grill RFK Jr. And not here.
Doc Brown say, we've got to cut you back to
the future. John says, Pete, you call Bernie Sanders cartoonish,
and that makes sense. I'm pretty sure he got his
career started by being the voice of the ardvarc on
the Pink Panther cartoon. That's possible. I haven't read as IMDb,
but all right, we have some we have We've got
some other clips here though. This is how much time
I got. All right, yeah, we can do this. This
according to Steve Krakauer, who is the executive producer of
The Megan Kelly Show. He says, this is the key
moment from the RFK hearing I have a yeah, I
have not heard this clip, but let's take a.
Speaker 3: Listen to yours. This country and so are.
Speaker 1: Katherine Cortez Masco so much time Democrat.
Speaker 6: So we've already negotiated lowering prices for ten drugs with
big Farma and Big Farmer, by the way, opposes this.
They have not only are asking for a pause, they
have filed lawsuits. But we've already negotiated the first ten
drugs and we want to expand it to the next
ten to fifteen that the Biden administration has put forward.
Would you agree and continue that path of really mandating
that big Pharma come to the table and negotiate drug
prices for Medicare so we can lower those prices for Americans.
Speaker 4: My understanding is that the executive order that was issued today,
which I haven't seen but I've read a summary.
Speaker 6: Well, let me ask you this then, because you keep
citing the Trump administration and you're just going to follow
what they say, is that what you're doing, you're just
a rubber stamp for them in this position. Anybody, So
it doesn't matter that you're before us. It could be
anybody coming before us, as long as they're a rubber
stamp for this administration and disregarding your beliefs and what
you think, I guess my question to you is, if
it really is fundamental to what you believe, how do
you live with that? How do you address those issues
as you're moving forward?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I'm going to answer the question.
Speaker 6: No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 4: Okay, President Trump has asked me and the chronic disease
epidemic and make America healthy again.
Speaker 1: The only reason why so she doesn't want an answer
is that the.
Speaker 6: Only reason why then you're at the AHHS to address
that one issue.
Speaker 4: President Trump has asked me because I'm in a unique
position to end that and that is what I'm doing.
And if we don't solve that problem, Senator, all of
the other disputes we have about who's paying, and whether
it's insurance companies, whether it's providers, whether it's HMOs, whether
it's patients or families, all of those are moving.
Speaker 3: Deck chairs around the Titanic. Our ship is sinking.
Speaker 4: Are sixty percent increase in Medicaid over the past four years.
It's the biggest budget line now and it's growing faster
than any other. And no other nation in the world
has what we have here. No other nation has a
chronic disease. We have the highest chronic disease burden of
any country in the world. We have during COVID, we
have sixteen percent of the COVID death in a country
we only have four point two percent of the world's population.
We had a higher death count than any country in
the world. And when CDC was as why is that?
It's because Americans are the sickest people on Earth. The
average person who died from COVID American had three point
eight chronic diseases. This is an existential threat economically to
our military or health to our sense of well being.
And it is a priority for President Trump, and that's
why he asked me to run the agency. And if
I'm privileged be confirmed, that's exactly what I'll do, all right.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like he's got some supporters in the
uh in the gallery there. Yeah, this is the thing.
If you, if you can reduce the prevalence of chronic
disease in America, then a lot of these healthcare costs
will go down right their downstream of the issue he's
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the RFK Junior confirmation hearing, which now has just broken
or maybe concluded. I don't know, but earlier let me
hopefully this will play. I don't know if it will.
Let's see if it will. This is hopefully Senator Warren
Elizabeth Warren aka Focahontis because she lied about being Native
American because she had high cheek bones, which is kind
of racisty, but anyway, she is going after RFK Junior,
demanding that he not take money from pharmaceutical companies, because
we all know he's in bed with pharmaceutical companies or something.
Speaker 7: I think chairman. So, mister Kennedy, I want to start
with something that I think you and I agree on,
and that is that big pharma has too much power
in Washington. You've said that President Trump asked you to
quote clean up corruption and conf sounds great. You've said
that you will quote slam shut the revolving door between
government agencies and the companies they regulate. That also sounds great.
So here's an easy question. Will you commit that when
you leave this job you will not accept compensation from
a drug company, a medical device company, a hospital system,
or a health insurer for at least four years, including
as a lobbyist or a board member.
Speaker 3: Can you just repeat the last part of the question,
I commitment you're not going.
Speaker 7: To take money from drug companies in any way, shape
or me.
Speaker 1: Yes, you.
Speaker 3: I'm having to commit to that.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 1: That's what I figured.
Speaker 7: I said, It's an easy question to start with, and
I think you're right on this.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of them want to give me money.
By the way, let's keep going.
Speaker 7: You're right because to say yes, because every American has
the right to know that every decision you make as
our number one health officer is to help them and
not to make money for yourself in the future.
Speaker 3: So I want to.
Speaker 7: Talk more about money. I'm looking at your paperwork right now.
In the past two years, you've breaked in two and
a half million dollars from a law firm called wisner Bomb.
You go online, you do commercials to encourage people to
sign up with Wisner Bomb, to join lawsuits against vaccine
makers and from everyone to accide you personally get paid.
Speaker 1: Hi, hang on a second, Whizner Bomb, Like that sounds
like a I don't know, like a college fraternity drinking
game or something that's a law firm Whisner Bomb. Maybe
it's Baum. Yeah, that would that would make a little
bit more sense, all right. So she's very interested in
the fact that he would go out and basically say, hey,
have you been injured. By the way, he is an attorney.
He's been in an attorney for forty years. He's been
sewing everybody over like environmental stuff and health related things
and all this, and so he gets referral fees. So
if he goes out there and he's like getting clients
through his public speaking books or websites or whatever, and
then he's like, hey, these lawyers want to take your case,
and then if they win and they get a whole
bunch of money, he gets a cut of the settlement.
He gets a cut of the payout. And so this
is what she is attacking him on because he apparently
pulled in like a million or two million dollars. I
don't know how many settlements there were against whom, but
he made a couple million dollars through this mechanism.
Speaker 7: And if they win their case, you get ten percent
of what they win. So if you bring in somebody
who gets ten million dollars, you walk away with a
million dollars. Now, you just said that you want the
American people to know you can't be bought. Your decisions
won't depend on how much money you could make in
the future. You won't go to work for a drug
company after you leave HHS. But you and I both
know there's another way to make money. So, mister Kennedy,
well you also agree that you won't take any compensation
from any lawsuits against drug companies while you are secretary
and for four years afterwards.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll certainly commit that.
Speaker 4: Well I'm secretary, but I do want to clarify something
because you're making me sound like I shall I put
together that case. I did the scienced a presentation of
the judge on that case to get it into me,
mister alberteering.
Speaker 7: Mister Kennedy, is just a really simple question.
Speaker 1: Yes, But it's a simple question the bad faith assumption
rooted in it, right, which is that he didn't do anything.
He just told you he did actually work on the case,
so that would indicate that he would be part of
that case and if there's a settlement, then he would
draw some of that fee. Right, So it wasn't simply
a referral, as she made it sound.
Speaker 7: Like, taken in two and a half million dollars. I
want to know if you will commit right now that
not only will you not go to work for drug companies,
you won't go to work suing the drug companies and
taking your rake out of that while you're a secretary
and for four years after.
Speaker 4: It's just I've taken any fees from drug rug companies.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm secretary.
Speaker 7: I'm asking about fees from suing drug companies. Will you
agree not to do that?
Speaker 3: You're asking me a to not sue drug company. No,
I'm not going to agree to companies as much as
I want.
Speaker 1: He's all right, hang on, I.
Speaker 4: Couldn't create about drug companies or anybody.
Speaker 1: So right, that's the answer. No, I'm not gonna promise
you that I'm not going to sue these guys if
they're doing stuff like this. Is the thing that I
don't think Democrats really understand. They look stupid doing this.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren is now projecting this image that she is
in defense of the drug companies. I'm old enough to
remember when this was something that the Democrats were just
I was gonna say on the warpath, but that I'm
not going to say that. Oh no, but they were
rampaging over the pharmaceutical industry, the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry,
and then of course, you know, COVID happens. Then all
of a sudden, they're like big Farmers the best. They
would never lie to us, like wait, what, Hang on
a second, didn't y' all just say that Big Farman
was the worst and now they're the best. How does
that work? And now you've got her asking his question saying,
will you commit to not taking your raake again? Everything
she is saying these loaded words, making it sound like
he's doing something illegal or unethical, but he's not. He's
been an attorney. He is an attorney. This has been
his life's work. And you know, he started off doing
like environmental stuff, and then I think he kind of
shifted focus into more health related things. And if I
recall correctly, I remember seeing an interview with him, maybe
he was on Rogan or something, and he talked about
like there was a personal experience that he had had
with some family who had come to him and asked
him about this, and he was so moved. He started
looking into it and he picked it up as his cause.
This is what he wants to do with his life.
He said this at that press conference when he was
dropping out from his presidential run. He said, I'm seventy
something years old. I don't have enough time left in
my life to try to make a difference in this
thing that I think I can make a difference. And
so if Trump is going to offer me an opportunity
to do that, I'm gonna take my shot. I'm going
to shoot the shot. Whether he makes it or not,
we don't know, but that's what he's going to do.
That's what he told you. His motivation is, you don't
have to believe him, but this line of questioning just
makes you look foolish, well more foolish, I should say.
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Got a message here from the hell yin who says
RFK not good radio. I know and like this is
going to be the biggest challenge is because of the
condition he has with his vocal cords. It is tough
to listen to. I know, I get it, and you're
welcome for rationing that coverage. The Hellion goes on to say,
hardly anybody on either side will do anything too big
pharma they give to everyone, and a lot of it.
And Elizabeth Warren always seems to bring the comedy. She
is pretty consistent, and it's true. It's amazing to me
how much air and videotime Mark Warner is getting. Really,
I haven't seen any of that, But then again, I
have a strict no Warner rule on the show. Now
I'm just kidding I him. This is from Russ. My
libertarian leanings usually keep me from saying people should have
to do fill in the blank. However, I do believe
everybody should have to watch at least a few hours
of congressional hearings to understand how childish and ignorant most
of the people in government are. Oh and as long
as we're going to have taxes, maybe right, a single
check once a year to fully appreciate how onerous they are. Yeah.
I always love watching the videos of the kids that
get their first job and they get the first pay
check and then they look at all the taxes that
get to get out of their check and they like,
whoa what yep, there you go. And by the way,
we're going to get into this, the funding freeze, you know,
the freak out over the funding freeze. We're going to
get into that in the next hour. But real quick,
let me play this. Nicole Shanahan, she was RFK Junior's
running mate in the last presidential cycle. She's like a
billionaire and big donor to Democrats for years and years
and years, and then she got, you know, sort of
red pilled when they were working so hard to destroy
RFK Junior and his campaign because they thought he was
a threat to their electoral chances, you know, trying to
get him off the ballots, on the ballots whatever in
various states. And so she put out a she put
out a video and here's the audio of that.
Speaker 8: Hey, everyone tomorrow is a pivotal moment in our nation's history.
At ten am Eastern time, RFK, we'll sit in front
of the Senate Finance Committee for his confirmation hearing to
be our nation's next Secretary of Health and Human Services.
I urge everyone to call their US senators over the
following days and demand they vote yes on Bobby's nomination.
He is more than qualified. He's proven principled and prepared
to lead. I'll list I'll share the list below of
key senators. If they represent your state, they need to
hear from you. If they don't, please call your own
senator and ask them to vote yest. We need as
many votes as we can get. So this hasn't been
widely reported, but in twenty twenty I cut large checks
to Check Schumer to help Democrats flip two Senate seats
in Georgia from red to blue. The two candidates I
helped elect, Senator Rafael Warnock and Senator on asof Please
know I will be watching your votes very closely. I
will make it my personal mission that you lose your
seats in the Senate if you vote against the future
health of America's children. And more than that, I also
want to say to Senators Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Lisa Markovsky,
Susan Collins, Bill Cassidy, Tom Tillis, James Lankford, Corey Booker,
John Fetterman, Bernie Sanders, and Catherine Cortes Mastow. This is
a bipartisan message, and it comes directly from me. While
Bobby may be willing to play nice, I won't. If
you vote against him, I will personally fund challengers to
primary you in your next election, and I will enlist
hundreds of thousands to join me. Big Pharma and Big
Egg have exploited us for far too long. It ends now.
You're either on the side of transparency and accountability or
you are standing in the way. The choice is yours.
Speaker 3: Please choose wisely.
Speaker 1: Tom Tillis was on that list, and he seemed pretty
nice to RFKA Junior today. I don't know if he
saw Nicole Shanahan's message, but oh my, Raphael Warnock is
actually questioning RFK Junior right now. I don't know if
he watched the video, but when somebody who has donated
lots and lots of money to political campaigns puts out
a message like that in public, identifying you saying I
gave you a boatload of money. I funded your campaign
and you need to confirm Robert Kennedy and he may
play nice, she said, but I won't. We got to
get money out of politics people, am I right? Yeah,
it's just all right. That'll do it for this episode.
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