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who should be on the line with us. Isaac, are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here. How you doing good? How are you? Man?

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Speaker 1: Good? Welcome, welcome back. It's been a long time.

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Speaker 1: Is that your now? That's your newest right? Is that

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your your newest track? Bar None?

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Speaker 2: That's the newest music video that we have just released.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay. Has that been out for a while?

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and we just released the music video for it. We've

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been developing a media company and that's the first full

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that makes sense. Yeah, it's very well done.

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the media company. This is a new development.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. The media company is called Manifest Media. So

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we are aiming to do music, television, film, even developing

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video games and eventually we will be wanting to rep talent.

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as far as the vocalists, we've been exploring other genres

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outside of hip hop music. A lot of different rock

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genres new metal, punk rock. We've been doing a little

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bit of more traditional metal as well, which has been exciting.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Now, has this always kind of been the

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goal long term or is this something you decided on recently,

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the music that you were making. But it sounds like

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you've really taken a big step into expanding what you do.

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put those projects together. It was just a lot harder

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to maintain all of those moving parts. It's like being

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music as far as the culture and am seeing, but

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it was just easier to manage myself as a solo

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we really went for it and said cinematically, what can

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to UH to UH Rocky, which was the cinematographer for

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the video. You can find the video on YouTube the

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song of bar None. We're still using the hashtag m KOT,

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but we do have a new channel for the company,

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which is Manifest Media. Oh okay, be releasing all of

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the other rock music on all the major string platforms soon,

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this is a big change for you. This is a

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big switch now. And it's interesting too what you said

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about the way that you became a rapper because somebody

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being in a relationship with four other people who are

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video myself, which is something that I've grew a passion

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trying to figure out how to get the mining and

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the performance shots to match the lyrics in the song.

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novelty gift shop here that's all themed around the Breaking

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film in their museum. They have a bunch of different

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memorabilia and things from the like the filming of the

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like some backdrop from the Too Armanos like restaurant from

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the TV show. And that was really exciting for us

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that's fantastic. So do you have are are there specific

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company yet, but I am I have my eye on

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a few different artists. I've been in the Midwest a

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lot this year, and there's a few artists out there

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that's really solid. His name is The Revel. And then

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his name is Baggs. He's an incredible artist. We have

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pop punk band by the name of calmer Seas and

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they really kind of have the same message as far

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as like speaking about the mental health and different things

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like that. They stood out to me a lot. There

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of who you're interested in working with? What do they

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have to have? Because, as you know, there's so much

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talent out there, you know, like like people ask us, uh,

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these great artists? And it's like, well, there's so much

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talent there everywhere, Like, so what do you look for? Like,

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like you must have somewhat of a criteria in mind,

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because not everyone you encounter is necessarily someone that you

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look for first off is I guess you know, I

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have a very eclectic taste, and so I want to

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like the music first off. And then as far as

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wanting to do business with folks, you know, I'm not

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really I don't really have a preference and genre per se.

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opportunities that a major label would be able to provide bands,

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but also without changing people. And so like we would

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like to have like the type of company that's providing

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the vackuing that a major label would provide to you,

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and assistance in some areas, we allow you to do that.

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these different strategies as far as marketing or promotion, and

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they're not filling some of the suggestions, they are merely

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a suggestion, because I think that where some companies fail

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division that does like marketing and advertisement. So when I

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you want? What is your vision? And how do we

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like you've got you know, because we all know with

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major labels, for example, and it's been this way for

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there's no development. Major labels want. They want people who

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are already all ready to go, who've already done all

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the artists and whatnot. But but but do you ever

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you need to do a little more on your own

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the twenty first of December, And so what they do

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educate an artists where they can learn not only artists development,

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sure if we're going to name it my kind of therapy.

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them Stroke of Genius, which was also coined by Roquel,

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our cinematographer, Okay, and those programs would be available to anybody,

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not just folks that are within our company or signed

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to our our label, but the general public would be

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able to come and be involved in those programs and

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developed not only they're musical crafts, but visual art crafts

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because I also do visual art acrylic on canvas in

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different multimedia types of art forms like that, and so

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we're trying to do that from like the nonprofit perspective

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of things. And so yeah, you know, I as far

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as a short answer, I haven't countered artists like that.

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And I do agree with you that the major labels

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aren't really put in a lot of time. I don't

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know if that the indie labels are either, but it

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can be from a business standpoint, time consuming, and it

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can take a lot of money to develop an artist, yes,

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we approach this from a standpoint of business where it

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makes sense and we're not necessarily trying to line our pockets.

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But you know, we're still trying to decide whether we're

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going to accept grants to these programs or if we're

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going to be independently.

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Speaker 1: Funded, right right, Yeah, And I think I think too

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it's more important than ever too. Well, let me put

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it this way. I think there's there's now more than

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ever a need to, you know, to have resources where

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people can kind of learn.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I mean, I'm old enough to remember

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when you know, we didn't mind. I'm gen X, so

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my generation was really the last generation to grow up

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without the internet, so you know, I can I still

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remember when you you put out, you know, you try

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to get signed. You're in a band, or you're doing

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a solo thing, whatever it is, and you're you're trying

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to get signed to a label, and then you get signed,

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and then the label releases your album and hopefully they're

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able to get you on the radio and hopefully they're

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able to sell some records for you. But today there's

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so much more to do, which is good in the

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sense that with social media and everything, there's so many

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ways to get your music out there and to really

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market yourself, not just market your music, but really market

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yourself as a brand.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: So there's so much more opportunity there. But it's also

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because there's so much more opportunity that's a double edged sword,

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because there's also so much more that you have to learn,

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and some people don't like to do that part. I'm

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I'm unusual in that I'm someone who, right from the

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beginning of my career in the music industry, I've always

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been fascinated by all of it. You know, I've played

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in a bunch of bands, but I also the business

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of music has always been really interesting to me. But

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most musicians don't want to have to deal with that,

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or they don't, you know. I hear people complain about, well,

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I don't want to have to try to become a

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TikTok star. I just want to make my music. And

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it's like, Okay, the music is the main thing, sure,

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but these are just things that you need to do

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to market yourself, you know, unless you have the luxury

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of having a major label do it all for you.

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So so I think that for what you're doing, or

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other organizations that we know, like you're in New Hampshire,

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there's up in Nashua, our friends Eleanor and Andre, they

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run something called New Hampshire Underground, which you know, provides

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education for artists and help for artists. But I think

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that's I think that's more important than it's ever been.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I will admit that I was not focused

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on the business portion when I was a young artist myself,

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and even I was actually very stubborn as far as

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my uncle was already a very experienced musician and was

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trying to give me a lot of perspective when I

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was just becoming an artist and he saw talent in me,

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and he tried to give me some advice that I

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did not want to hear because I was like, I've

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got a message, like you know, he would he would

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try to give me tips on like, you know, develop

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your appearance or you know, how you want to present yourself,

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and I did not want to hear it. When I

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was younger, it wasn't intel. I had basically turned down

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all the majors and in the label offers that I

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had on the table, and kind of it felt like

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I had nowhere else to go. And a friend of

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mine basically was like, what are you going to do?

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You know, become a manager at a fast food chain.

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Not that there's anything wrong with that. Anybody that does that,

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I respect anybody who you know does anything in in

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any workforce. But what I said to myself was, well,

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if I go take on a different type of career path,

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I'm gonna have to learn skills anyway, and so why

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not learn the skills that it takes me to be

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involved in the business that I want to be in,

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which then has developed all of these different new avenues

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for us to now have founded, not only manifest Media,

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but these other to Lanthropic you know, things that we're

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trying to do through the nonprofits and stuff. You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should talk a little bit more about that too,

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especially for people who have not heard our previous conversations

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on the show about about what you've done and what

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you've been doing in terms of uh, mental health and awareness.

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I know that, uh, you know, you had had a

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friend who had committed suicide and you did a song

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about that and whatnot, But yeah, can you talk a

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little bit more about that, about about what you've been

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doing in that zone and how that relates to the

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to your music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, yeah, I do remember that is how

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we met is. I had put out a song about

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five years ago called how could You about two different

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friends of mine that had passed away. One of them

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was confirmed a suicide and the other we assume that

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it was a self inflicted overdose, but it was never confirmed,

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and that had began the expansion of I Guess what

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is now our mental health advocacy brand and community, the

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hashtag MKOT, and this last year in twenty twenty three,

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I guess I just said, advocating isn't enough. Not that

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I have any issue with anybody that purely advocates, but

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I said, you know, let's see how much we can

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do or how much more we can do. And so

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I didn't really know where we were fitting into the

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nonprofit world at that moment in time, and my first

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idea was, well, I have a lot of background an

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event organization. Let's see if we can create an annual

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mental health awareness events. And so we do a mental

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health awareness festival every May, and we've been doing that

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for two years now. It's called the Mcott Bash. Okay.

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So what we usually do is we'll pick an already

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existing nonprofit and we'll raise money for them. And we've

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been very successful in being able to put on these

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productions in the last couple of years, and we hope

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to continue to shed light on even centralized topics. Folks

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have asked us if we would be willing to do

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events that were more focused around particular brain functionality that

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folks are dealing with, like schizophrenia or you know, any

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other different particular I don't like to use the word

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mental illness or disorder. I particularly like to use the

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phrase brain function. I feel like everybody has brain functionality,

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and we particularly are trying to develop programs to help

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folks that are dealing with traumatic brain injury as well.

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I know that it's very hard to continue with employment

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after you sustain the brain injury, and so we're trying

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to develop programs to help folks with employment and like

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employment protection as well. But for right now, we just said,

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can we help some other programs that already exist, and

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so we raised money for a couple of different local nonprofits.

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And as these events developed, we are hoping to not

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only just spread awareness through the music, but we would,

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you know, hope to have seminars where folks are giving

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testimony and we have professionals coming and talking about, you know,

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how they might be able to, you know, give some

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insight on just different forms of brain function and where

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they might be able to find an outlet to help,

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you know, find services and aid if they're dealing with

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certain things. And so that's all a developing process, but

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we're just happy to be able to have done what

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little we could do in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's uh. I think that's great,

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very very positive stuff and and what about as far

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as your own uh material, as far as your your

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hip hop have you been uh, have you been touring

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at all in the past couple of years? I think

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the lot.

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Speaker 2: Actually, we have a tour it's going to be coming

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up this next year in probably the middle of February

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till about the end of March and April. We're hoping

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to get out to your neck of the woods, and

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if we do, I would love to come and visit

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you in person on the show. But we're going to

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be continuing to push the bar Nun song and music

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video and also promoting some new hip hop records that

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we have out. We uh, we are always producing rap music.

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That's so funny actually, is that I started doing so

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much rock music, people are like, do you rap anymore?

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And so we are trying to create a balance as

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far as putting out more hip hop and rap records

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as well as uh, you know, developing developing these other genres.

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As far as myself as a vocalists, I have a

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lot more in the vault that we'll be releasing this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh excellent, excellent. Where do you record? Do you do everything?

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Do you do everything yourself? Or do you have a

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studio that you work out of.

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Speaker 2: I have a couple of different facilities. One facility that

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I use in Albuquerque is called On the Moon Studios.

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Nick Johnson is the founder of On the Moon Studios

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and the engineer that I work with over there, and

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he's an incredible, incredible individual and I've been working with

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him for probably about four years now. As far as

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being on the road, I do use sound peak as

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far as when I'm in Topeka, Kansas or you know,

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if somebody has a studio and we can just hop

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in there. Because I try to stay as productive as

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possible when I'm on the road, I don't really party

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like I used to. I used to be kind of

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a you know, a party animal, but now I just

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try to make sure that if we're gonna be away

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from home, we're working right. Yeah, And so to say

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that is also I said all that to say the

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reason why I started doing the rock music is because

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I did have a home studio available to me at

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that moment in time, which was something new. I never

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really wanted to do that. I liked a little bit

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of a a creative exchange. You know. People will always

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ask me, like, do you make your own beats, or

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do you record yourself? And those were things that I

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kind of wanted to leave up to folks that specialize

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in those areas. But when I had the availability to

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record myself, I would just knock out two or three

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songs in a night, and my roommate was was like

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always pretty surprised because he would be just like, Wow,

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you can just do any genre, because I'd be like, look,

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look at this song that I did, or look at that,

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and he would be just kind of excited that there

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was just like always something creative happening around. Because he

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was making records with me, rap records. He had been

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in like different hardcore bands as a vocalist and dabbled

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in rap music himself. He was the one with the

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recording setup, and since it was around, I was like,

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let's let's see how this works. And so I started

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to get a little bit more experienced and like mix

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mixing and mastering and different things like that and editing,

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and which gave me an even more deeper respect for

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folks that have to do all of the recording and

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the post production, because it's not easy to do any

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of these things and to create a final product. So

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that was very exciting for me to be able to

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get my feet wet in that area. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, No, that's great. That's great. Well, Isaac, You've you've

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got a lot going on. So let's before we before

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we close out the segment, and I'm gonna I think

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I'm gonna end with light work, the track that you

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did with Jewels Santana. The collab from this is this

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is from a few years ago, right, I think we

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had we had played this on the show before and

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I was like, really pretty blown away by it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a really cool collaboration that I was

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able to do a few years ago. I think that

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is the last time that I was on the show.

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I don't want to uh have that large of a

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gap uh for the next one. So oh, I agree

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out to you and I should have actually probably sent

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you one of the rock records. I don't think that

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you even knew that we were doing that. But even

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just for your listening pleasure, I'll send you some stuff.

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Oh yeah, you can check out the other thing we're doing.

480
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Speaker 1: Send us, uh, yeah, send us anything you want and

481
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and uh and if it if it's something that hasn't

482
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:28,240
been played on the radio before, make sure make sure

483
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,319
you let us know that because we can do. We

484
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680
like to do world radio premieres where we're the first

485
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,119
radio station in the US to play something. That's a

486
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,039
thing that we do. So if you've got if you've

487
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got anything like that, I mean, send us anything. But

488
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if you've got anything like that too that hasn't been

489
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played anywhere, let us know. Or if it's been played

490
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,559
on a podcast or something, fine, but if it hasn't

491
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:47,599
been played on the radio yet, let us know.

492
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Speaker 2: And uh, actually one of I love premiering the records

493
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on your show, and I really appreciate and I'm very

494
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,319
honored that you had allowed me to do that for

495
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a few of these releases.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent.

497
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Speaker 3: Jenny, did you have you know you're you're you're one

498
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of my personal favorites.

499
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just remember it almost forgot Yeah. Yeah

500
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the hoodies so Isaac, we still wear those hoodies that

501
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,359
you sent us. And yeah, and you see the picture

502
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I tagged you in, Yeah.

503
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Speaker 2: I did get that picture.

504
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Was that was a news story?

505
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Speaker 2: Surprise?

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah that that.

507
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Speaker 3: I did not know they were going to pull that

508
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:34,039
photo either, And I'm really glad that they did. I

509
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:38,880
love that photo. It's you and I are are brother

510
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,599
and sister when it comes to that issue and trying

511
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to help people and you now, as you know, I

512
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,160
have CRPS. So it's a real important part of my

513
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,559
heart that you do that work, and I really appreciate it.

514
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Speaker 1: And I'm honored to wear that shirt. I love that sweather. Yeah, absolutely, very.

515
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Speaker 2: Honored to have you. You know, it's it's a big

516
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,640
issue that always needs to be addressed. Yeah, and so

517
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I'm very honored that you've supported over the years and

518
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,160
still have the the headies. We're trying to produce more

519
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,799
and we're trying to at some point give a portion

520
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of the proceeds from the sales of that merchandise to

521
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different programs for suicide prevention as well.

522
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Yeah, that's outstanding, very good, very good, Isaac. So

523
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:29,559
before we let you go, like I said, we're gonna

524
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,680
play light work. But what should people know about where

525
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,839
to find you online, how to find manifest media, anything

526
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,039
that you want our listeners to make sure that they

527
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:39,759
know so they can keep up on everything that you're

528
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,960
doing or you know, and there might be somebody listening

529
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who wants to work with you too.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So right now, Manifest Media does have an Instagram

531
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:56,799
page Manifest Many, and we also have a Facebook page

532
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:03,880
which is Manifest Media. The YouTube and uh SoundCloud if

533
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,240
you want to hear some of the music right now,

534
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:13,079
is also under Manifest Media, and you can also contact

535
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,839
me personally if anybody ever wanted to reach out through

536
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,559
any of the Instagram. We also have an Instagram for

537
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:23,359
my kind of Therapy now which is uh m k

538
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,559
O T underscore dot org and uh, you know, I

539
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,240
manage all of those accounts, so if anybody ever wanted

540
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:36,319
to find me, uh, that's that's how they would be

541
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:42,400
able to get a hold of me. Also through Isaac

542
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,839
Sierra is my personal page on Facebook that's attached to

543
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:52,480
all So the the Truth Facebook page and True to

544
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,559
the Rhymes t r U E the number two d

545
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,960
A r H y m E s all one word

546
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on instagrams outstanding.

547
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Speaker 1: All right, Isaac, So we'll let you go so we

548
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,599
can hit this track, but yes, let's do this again soon.

549
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,199
You've got a lot going on. Send us any music

550
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,719
you want to send us. We love it, we love

551
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,119
premiering new music. And we'll let you go for now,

552
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,840
and and I'm sure we'll talk to you soon, but

553
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,639
thank you so much for calling us today.

554
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on the show again.

555
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,519
Speaker 1: You got it all right, all right, you got it.

556
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Speaker 2: Take care, good morning, Bye bye, bye bye