Speaker 1: On on.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Episode Cecial pre show episode four fifty four
Speaker 2: fifty Yeah, four fifty like the splash, Yes, holy shit, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like a milestone, does it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It's a round number. And it's
Speaker 2: like halfway to five hundred five hundred.
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy. It's not halfway to five hundred. It's
Speaker 1: like ninety percent of the way to five hundred, nine
Speaker 1: tenths of the way.
Speaker 2: It's like eighty percent of the way. We're brought to
Speaker 2: you by the wonderful patrons at patreon dot com slash Ceeal.
Speaker 1: Podcast, whether they like it or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've stuck around thus far, and a lot
Speaker 2: of people have told me they've liked the longer pre
Speaker 2: show and wherever we are today, which is a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. I'm getting a sunburn because of the lights
Speaker 2: in this town.
Speaker 1: Again. Again, we're looking at places that we could possibly
Speaker 1: travel to. I'm just happy to be out of the
Speaker 1: basement of the damn studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Poopooville, Peepetown, Penis cutoff Row.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that one those a dog will lick
Speaker 1: his butt but won't need a pickle street. Yes, what
Speaker 1: the hell is that. I need to know where that is.
Speaker 1: I need to know where that is in real life,
Speaker 1: we're really Google maps that at we are.
Speaker 2: We are at one of those places, but I don't
Speaker 2: know where yet. We've got a new patron we're gonna
Speaker 2: thank on the show today. Okay, so big shout out
Speaker 2: to the patrons. This is all for you, and and
Speaker 2: I have a Patreon winner of the pre show.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I thought for the next couple of weeks, I thought,
Speaker 2: if you're a patron and you're listening, you should just
Speaker 2: win for being a patron as a way for us
Speaker 2: to say thank you, because we probably don't say thank
Speaker 2: you enough. So, okay, last week's winner, and I know
Speaker 2: that there was commenters, so thank you for commenting. You've
Speaker 2: all won before. I recognize everybody's names, so I wanted
Speaker 2: to give it to somebody who who we haven't mentioned
Speaker 2: or I haven't talked to for a while. I think
Speaker 2: King Max is the pseudonym on Is that that Max
Speaker 2: Max Crandell Yeah, definitely not. Definitely not. So King Max.
Speaker 2: Get after us either on Patreon because I'll get an email,
Speaker 2: or by sending an email to Commander Cookout at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com. Tell us that you that you won. I
Speaker 2: have your address already and but if you could leave it,
Speaker 2: that would be great booster Pacos ticker pack or CEO
Speaker 2: token pack. Yeah, very cool, very cool. And I was
Speaker 2: asking a bunch of the patrons in the discord about
Speaker 2: planning for Toronto the Command Fest. We were talking about
Speaker 2: that last night. We were we were drinking some beer
Speaker 2: and talking about a few things that I have planned
Speaker 2: that I definitely have no expertise on and need Brando's help.
Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit scared, but I know it'll
Speaker 2: be a good job ish sort of not really. So
Speaker 2: we have a deck this week tomorrow, and it's actually
Speaker 2: gonna be an Uncle Brando special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did it. I said I was gonna build it,
Speaker 1: and I did.
Speaker 2: Oh is that the only hint is that the only
Speaker 2: hint that we give.
Speaker 1: Well, there's two. I said I was gonna build, right,
Speaker 1: And I feel like everybody's gonna guess the wrong one.
Speaker 2: I feel like nobody's gonna get I feel like nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna guess because we just said we're going to give
Speaker 2: the packaway to a random Patreon support.
Speaker 1: I guess, but guessing is fun.
Speaker 2: You can still guess if you want first.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite game. So it's one of the two
Speaker 1: that I said I was gonna build.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them I did do, and the other
Speaker 1: one found a home in another one of my decks
Speaker 1: because as I was putting the cards together to actually
Speaker 1: build the deck, I was like, you know, this just
Speaker 1: kind of feels like a pile of good stuff. And
Speaker 1: the other pile, which is what we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about today, was a pile of crap.
Speaker 2: No I thought that this one felt like a pile
Speaker 2: of good stuff.
Speaker 1: No, Oh, there's lots of stuff that I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of tweaking it a little bit. It needs to get
Speaker 1: played a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Well here, hold on, hold on, I'll preface what you
Speaker 2: were gonna say. Okay, this is an upgraded pre con. Yes,
Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about upgrading pre cons and
Speaker 2: their importance. I'd like to start now. I'd like to
Speaker 2: start now because I don't want to have a like
Speaker 2: an hour and twenty minute show for editor Joda to
Speaker 2: nail me to the cross for Yeah, so I wanted
Speaker 2: to pick your brain on kind of the importance of
Speaker 2: picking up a pre con from your local game store
Speaker 2: or Fusion Gaming Online dot Com using CCO Summer promo code,
Speaker 2: saving some money. The importance of picking that up and
Speaker 2: playing at like just a stock pre con and then
Speaker 2: slowly over time like tweaking this or that or changing
Speaker 2: a thing or two. Why is that important other than
Speaker 2: supporting your local game store.
Speaker 1: Because it's a really good way to get in at
Speaker 1: like the I would say, I would argue the power
Speaker 1: level that you probably want to be on it. You
Speaker 1: don't talk about power levels mightbe pass at this point, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think it's a really good way to get
Speaker 1: in and get some games with a deck where you're
Speaker 1: not just going to get slaughtered because maybe you're not
Speaker 1: quite sure what you're doing. Or it's a good way
Speaker 1: to get in and get something unique yep, because the
Speaker 1: decks are built around new mechanics and they always make
Speaker 1: the face commanders slash backup commanders these days to be
Speaker 1: something that are unique and interesting and maybe not things
Speaker 1: that other decks do. So it's a great way to
Speaker 1: just have something that not everybody else is played with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unique interesting power level on tune with probably like
Speaker 2: the general most most trodden, most treaded sure power level
Speaker 2: of deck. Yeah, okay, and they're not.
Speaker 1: You can laterally upgrade them where you can just like
Speaker 1: tweak what they're doing to do the exact same like
Speaker 1: to do the same power of thing but a little different,
Speaker 1: or you can amp them way up if you have
Speaker 1: cards at your house that you want to throw in,
Speaker 1: or you have excitement that you can spend, or I
Speaker 1: mean you can't really take them down. Actually you can't
Speaker 1: really take them.
Speaker 2: You probably could.
Speaker 1: I mean you can tick down.
Speaker 2: You know what I think, I think more often than not,
Speaker 2: is I'm going to upgrade this pre con or I'm
Speaker 2: going to take this commander that came in a pre
Speaker 2: con and do my own thing with it. I think generally,
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this before, I think generally that
Speaker 2: makes the deck worse without you actually knowing it, right.
Speaker 1: And that's not a like a dig in anybody's deck
Speaker 1: building prowess. Because my version of this deck is definitely
Speaker 1: less stout than it is out of the box. It
Speaker 1: just plays way more stuff that I like.
Speaker 2: And that's totally fine. I actually like that that gives
Speaker 2: a new player or a pre con tuoner, because I
Speaker 2: think that's a whole category of people, right, I want
Speaker 2: to just buy and tune a pre con because it's
Speaker 2: already kind of there.
Speaker 1: At RLGS. Actually, there's lots of people that just play
Speaker 1: the deck out of the box, or they'll throw in
Speaker 1: one or two cards that they opened in it. There's
Speaker 1: lots then they do really well. They take that.
Speaker 2: You know who does that? I few Alex does that
Speaker 2: so much so that like he bought the El Drazi
Speaker 2: pre con from Mari Jojo Hoo and plays that like
Speaker 2: right out of the box. And he also has a
Speaker 2: custom built El Drazi deck. Yeah, like he's got two,
Speaker 2: and I think it like one is of a certain
Speaker 2: power level and the El Drassi Incursion whatever it's called,
Speaker 2: is a powerful pre con. And then he's just got
Speaker 2: like a slap your lips off all the ramp all
Speaker 2: of the big El Drazi, like very powerful El Drawsi deck.
Speaker 2: So he can kind of do the same thing on
Speaker 2: the back of a pre con, but at multiple power
Speaker 2: levels or speeds or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: I think that that's important.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: versatility and themn they are well made and they're easily accessible,
Speaker 1: which is the key.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and can we called him cheap?
Speaker 1: What's a pre con colast fifty bucks for.
Speaker 2: Thirty five bucks if you're in the land of the free.
Speaker 1: It depends too, because every so often you'll get the
Speaker 1: one that it's got the chase card from thing it
Speaker 1: becomes worth more. There's something that are worth less. I
Speaker 1: think there's one. Is it the bird that we did
Speaker 1: the other week, Zinya? One of these decks in the wild,
Speaker 1: depending on where you go, is a couple dollars more
Speaker 1: if I'm recalling correctly, but not to the level that
Speaker 1: Maudy ho ho hos decks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're like two hundred dollars or whatever or not.
Speaker 1: Whether they're two hundred dollars or they're sixty.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, right, like yeah, like when when Dockside came out,
Speaker 2: or when what was the one from Commander Nameless not
Speaker 2: Nameless Nemesis, what True Nemesis, True name Nemesis? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: when that came out, that was in Commander.
Speaker 1: That was the first one, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Are you sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah? True name was Commander fifteen fourteen.
Speaker 1: I thought sure it was in the first one, the
Speaker 1: first set of them, I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought, may I don't remember, we could look it up,
Speaker 2: but I've got Bloomboro pre cons up here, and we're
Speaker 2: cats out of the bag. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 2: one of these four decks today. I think on our
Speaker 2: bloom Borrow one of our reviews, you actually had this
Speaker 2: deck sitting on the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If we're doing the booster game boosterback Game of old,
Speaker 2: we could definitely you definitely know which one it is. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's this one here. No, the Family Matters one that's
Speaker 2: with Zinia. It's at least twenty dollars more if you
Speaker 2: were to purchase the cards individually. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: There we go, Yeah, and I think that is mine
Speaker 1: the cheapest one. It probably is, I'll bet it is.
Speaker 2: Uh oh wait a minute, Oh the squirrel one.
Speaker 1: The squirrel one, of course, freaking squirrel weeds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, squirrel weeds. Yeah, yours is the cheapest.
Speaker 1: There we go, as always, Yeah, as matter, we should
Speaker 1: just which one of you the most interested in brand?
Speaker 1: Oh I like this one. Okay, we will avoid that
Speaker 1: because it will have the least value.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 1: Financially, but it will have the most value for fun.
Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of financial value and for fun. The next
Speaker 2: BBO is coming up. The Brando's openings on the CCEO
Speaker 2: YouTube channels coming up. And I would like to say
Speaker 2: that there's a gimmick, but I'm gonna call it like
Speaker 2: a whole mini movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I worked hard on this one, baby, and
Speaker 1: then you added some special effects to it to really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got some music playing behind it. And that'll
Speaker 2: be out on Friday. If you're watching this on Monday,
Speaker 2: come back tomorrow for the show proper. The show proper Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have offerings. I really hope that you
Speaker 2: can't see the bug that's right on the lens I'm
Speaker 2: looking at.
Speaker 1: There's there's a bug.
Speaker 2: There's a bug right on the camera lens. You can
Speaker 2: see him. I can see him.
Speaker 1: Producer Gary to the rescue. Man, I just realized, just
Speaker 1: blow on it.
Speaker 2: There we go, Hey, podcasting professional professionals, drinking so much
Speaker 2: beard in the studio. Man, that means the flies or something.
Speaker 1: That means that now everybody knows that we're inside we ruin.
Speaker 2: That's okay, I'll cut it all out, fix it and
Speaker 2: post fix it and post.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 2: So anyways, Friday, BBO, it's gonna be it was really
Speaker 2: freaking funny. I thought it was funny right off the bat,
Speaker 2: and then like the hard jump cut to what actually
Speaker 2: happened to the thing. Oh man, I freaking laughed hard.
Speaker 2: And little people, oh, they will peek behind a curtain.
Speaker 2: Usually Brando tells me there's some kind of gimmick or something,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't tell me anything about it. And when
Speaker 2: I download the file that you send to put it together,
Speaker 2: it's usually like in the evening, everybody in my house
Speaker 2: is in bed.
Speaker 3: I'm just like freaking, oh man, I gotta do the
Speaker 3: stupid thing Brando sent me right and I download the
Speaker 3: file and just watch the native footage for the first
Speaker 3: twenty seconds or whatever, and bang hits me right in
Speaker 3: the right in the dink.
Speaker 2: It was so funny. So I thought it was a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. So tune in on Friday.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a good time.
Speaker 2: Okay. Tomorrow's Deck.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's deck. This benability tunability, the ability to play cards
Speaker 1: that you probably have squirrelled away either at the back
Speaker 1: of your binder.
Speaker 2: That would normally be a hit, but we're not doing
Speaker 2: a scroll where they're.
Speaker 1: In like a box or something. Because you're like, man,
Speaker 1: this card is so much fun, and then you play
Speaker 1: it a couple of times nothing, it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I noticed that this is a deck that can you
Speaker 1: can rock some of them in here.
Speaker 2: I noticed a couple of cards that you've been saying, Oh,
Speaker 2: I've been trying to make this just like the fourth deck.
Speaker 2: I've played this card in and I always cut it.
Speaker 2: I've noticed a couple of those in this deck, Uncle
Speaker 2: Brando's specials. I call it. Yeah, just cards that just suck.
Speaker 2: Stop playing that card. That's no good.
Speaker 1: I can't stop, won't stop.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I noticed a couple of those. I've got
Speaker 2: a lot of notes on like the versatility of this
Speaker 2: commander in that it could build you an aggro deck
Speaker 2: kind of like what you did. It could build you
Speaker 2: like a go wide deck if you want to cheat.
Speaker 2: It could build you some kind of polymorph. I'll call
Speaker 2: it a combo because that's usually what polymorph is. Sure,
Speaker 2: and we'll go we'll go into how. And what I
Speaker 2: really was interested in and surprised that you didn't do,
Speaker 2: is like some kind of like lock or Stacks variant.
Speaker 1: Well, I already have a Stacks deck, so I didn't
Speaker 1: want to another one.
Speaker 2: We can theorize about ways to do that. I didn't
Speaker 2: read one of the lines of text on this card,
Speaker 2: so my recommendations are going to be a little bit wonky.
Speaker 2: But cards like the one I recommended will will probably
Speaker 2: be worth a think.
Speaker 1: On the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So that's going to be episode four fifty
Speaker 2: coming out tomorrow. If you're a patron, get at us,
Speaker 2: if you're King Max, we're going to pick somebody to
Speaker 2: win the Booster Pac Game. Join us in Toronto, Vancouver, Nope, Calgary, Regina.
Speaker 2: Where else are we going?
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, that's.
Speaker 2: It, and everybody else in Vegas. But we're not going
Speaker 2: to Vegas because f you Alex. Yeah, that guy hit
Speaker 2: our theme song.