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<v Speaker 1>On on.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Episode Cecial pre show episode four fifty four

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<v Speaker 2>fifty Yeah, four fifty like the splash, Yes, holy shit, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of feels like a milestone, does it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. It's a round number. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like halfway to five hundred five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds crazy. It's not halfway to five hundred. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like ninety percent of the way to five hundred, nine

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<v Speaker 1>tenths of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like eighty percent of the way. We're brought to

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<v Speaker 2>you by the wonderful patrons at patreon dot com slash Ceeal.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast, whether they like it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they've stuck around thus far, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have told me they've liked the longer pre

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<v Speaker 2>show and wherever we are today, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. I'm getting a sunburn because of the lights

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<v Speaker 2>in this town.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. Again, we're looking at places that we could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>travel to. I'm just happy to be out of the

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<v Speaker 1>basement of the damn studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Poopooville, Peepetown, Penis cutoff Row.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was that one those a dog will lick

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<v Speaker 1>his butt but won't need a pickle street. Yes, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is that. I need to know where that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know where that is in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really Google maps that at we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are at one of those places, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where yet. We've got a new patron we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>thank on the show today. Okay, so big shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to the patrons. This is all for you, and and

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Patreon winner of the pre show.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought for the next couple of weeks, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a patron and you're listening, you should just

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<v Speaker 2>win for being a patron as a way for us

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<v Speaker 2>to say thank you, because we probably don't say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you enough. So, okay, last week's winner, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>that there was commenters, so thank you for commenting. You've

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<v Speaker 2>all won before. I recognize everybody's names, so I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to give it to somebody who who we haven't mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>or I haven't talked to for a while. I think

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<v Speaker 2>King Max is the pseudonym on Is that that Max

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<v Speaker 2>Max Crandell Yeah, definitely not. Definitely not. So King Max.

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<v Speaker 2>Get after us either on Patreon because I'll get an email,

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<v Speaker 2>or by sending an email to Commander Cookout at gmail

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Tell us that you that you won. I

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<v Speaker 2>have your address already and but if you could leave it,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be great booster Pacos ticker pack or CEO

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<v Speaker 2>token pack. Yeah, very cool, very cool. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>asking a bunch of the patrons in the discord about

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<v Speaker 2>planning for Toronto the Command Fest. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that last night. We were we were drinking some beer

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<v Speaker 2>and talking about a few things that I have planned

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<v Speaker 2>that I definitely have no expertise on and need Brando's help.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm a little bit scared, but I know it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a good job ish sort of not really. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have a deck this week tomorrow, and it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be an Uncle Brando special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did it. I said I was gonna build it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is that the only hint is that the only

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<v Speaker 2>hint that we give.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's two. I said I was gonna build, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like everybody's gonna guess the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like nobody's gonna get I feel like nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna guess because we just said we're going to give

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<v Speaker 2>the packaway to a random Patreon support.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but guessing is fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still guess if you want first.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite game. So it's one of the two

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<v Speaker 1>that I said I was gonna build.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of them I did do, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>one found a home in another one of my decks

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<v Speaker 1>because as I was putting the cards together to actually

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<v Speaker 1>build the deck, I was like, you know, this just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like a pile of good stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other pile, which is what we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today, was a pile of crap.

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<v Speaker 2>No I thought that this one felt like a pile

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<v Speaker 2>of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Oh, there's lots of stuff that I'm still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tweaking it a little bit. It needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>played a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well here, hold on, hold on, I'll preface what you

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<v Speaker 2>were gonna say. Okay, this is an upgraded pre con. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk about upgrading pre cons and

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<v Speaker 2>their importance. I'd like to start now. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>start now because I don't want to have a like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and twenty minute show for editor Joda to

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<v Speaker 2>nail me to the cross for Yeah, so I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to pick your brain on kind of the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>picking up a pre con from your local game store

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<v Speaker 2>or Fusion Gaming Online dot Com using CCO Summer promo code,

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<v Speaker 2>saving some money. The importance of picking that up and

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<v Speaker 2>playing at like just a stock pre con and then

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<v Speaker 2>slowly over time like tweaking this or that or changing

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<v Speaker 2>a thing or two. Why is that important other than

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<v Speaker 2>supporting your local game store.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's a really good way to get in at

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<v Speaker 1>like the I would say, I would argue the power

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<v Speaker 1>level that you probably want to be on it. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about power levels mightbe pass at this point, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's a really good way to get

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<v Speaker 1>in and get some games with a deck where you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just going to get slaughtered because maybe you're not

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<v Speaker 1>quite sure what you're doing. Or it's a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to get in and get something unique yep, because the

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<v Speaker 1>decks are built around new mechanics and they always make

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<v Speaker 1>the face commanders slash backup commanders these days to be

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<v Speaker 1>something that are unique and interesting and maybe not things

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<v Speaker 1>that other decks do. So it's a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>just have something that not everybody else is played with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unique interesting power level on tune with probably like

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<v Speaker 2>the general most most trodden, most treaded sure power level

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<v Speaker 2>of deck. Yeah, okay, and they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>You can laterally upgrade them where you can just like

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<v Speaker 1>tweak what they're doing to do the exact same like

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same power of thing but a little different,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can amp them way up if you have

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<v Speaker 1>cards at your house that you want to throw in,

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<v Speaker 1>or you have excitement that you can spend, or I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can't really take them down. Actually you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really take them.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably could.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can tick down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think, I think more often than not,

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm going to upgrade this pre con or I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take this commander that came in a pre

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<v Speaker 2>con and do my own thing with it. I think generally,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've talked about this before, I think generally that

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<v Speaker 2>makes the deck worse without you actually knowing it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not a like a dig in anybody's deck

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<v Speaker 1>building prowess. Because my version of this deck is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>less stout than it is out of the box. It

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<v Speaker 1>just plays way more stuff that I like.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's totally fine. I actually like that that gives

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<v Speaker 2>a new player or a pre con tuoner, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a whole category of people, right, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to just buy and tune a pre con because it's

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<v Speaker 2>already kind of there.

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<v Speaker 1>At RLGS. Actually, there's lots of people that just play

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<v Speaker 1>the deck out of the box, or they'll throw in

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<v Speaker 1>one or two cards that they opened in it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>lots then they do really well. They take that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who does that? I few Alex does that

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<v Speaker 2>so much so that like he bought the El Drazi

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<v Speaker 2>pre con from Mari Jojo Hoo and plays that like

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<v Speaker 2>right out of the box. And he also has a

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<v Speaker 2>custom built El Drazi deck. Yeah, like he's got two,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it like one is of a certain

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<v Speaker 2>power level and the El Drassi Incursion whatever it's called,

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<v Speaker 2>is a powerful pre con. And then he's just got

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<v Speaker 2>like a slap your lips off all the ramp all

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<v Speaker 2>of the big El Drazi, like very powerful El Drawsi deck.

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<v Speaker 2>So he can kind of do the same thing on

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<v Speaker 2>the back of a pre con, but at multiple power

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<v Speaker 2>levels or speeds or whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's important.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty cool and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>versatility and themn they are well made and they're easily accessible,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the key.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and can we called him cheap?

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<v Speaker 1>What's a pre con colast fifty bucks for.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty five bucks if you're in the land of the free.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends too, because every so often you'll get the

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<v Speaker 1>one that it's got the chase card from thing it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes worth more. There's something that are worth less. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's one. Is it the bird that we did

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<v Speaker 1>the other week, Zinya? One of these decks in the wild,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on where you go, is a couple dollars more

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm recalling correctly, but not to the level that

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<v Speaker 1>Maudy ho ho hos decks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they're like two hundred dollars or whatever or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether they're two hundred dollars or they're sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, right, like yeah, like when when Dockside came out,

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<v Speaker 2>or when what was the one from Commander Nameless not

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<v Speaker 2>Nameless Nemesis, what True Nemesis, True name Nemesis? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when that came out, that was in Commander.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first one, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? True name was Commander fifteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought sure it was in the first one, the

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<v Speaker 1>first set of them, I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, may I don't remember, we could look it up,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've got Bloomboro pre cons up here, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>cats out of the bag. We're gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>one of these four decks today. I think on our

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<v Speaker 2>bloom Borrow one of our reviews, you actually had this

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<v Speaker 2>deck sitting on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're doing the booster game boosterback Game of old,

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<v Speaker 2>we could definitely you definitely know which one it is. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's this one here. No, the Family Matters one that's

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<v Speaker 2>with Zinia. It's at least twenty dollars more if you

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<v Speaker 2>were to purchase the cards individually. That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, Yeah, and I think that is mine

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<v Speaker 1>the cheapest one. It probably is, I'll bet it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh wait a minute, Oh the squirrel one.

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<v Speaker 1>The squirrel one, of course, freaking squirrel weeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, squirrel weeds. Yeah, yours is the cheapest.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, as always, Yeah, as matter, we should

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<v Speaker 1>just which one of you the most interested in brand?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like this one. Okay, we will avoid that

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<v Speaker 1>because it will have the least value.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Financially, but it will have the most value for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, speaking of financial value and for fun. The next

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<v Speaker 2>BBO is coming up. The Brando's openings on the CCEO

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channels coming up. And I would like to say

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a gimmick, but I'm gonna call it like

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<v Speaker 2>a whole mini movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I worked hard on this one, baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you added some special effects to it to really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got some music playing behind it. And that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be out on Friday. If you're watching this on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>come back tomorrow for the show proper. The show proper Wednesday, Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we'll have offerings. I really hope that you

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a bug.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bug right on the camera lens. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see him. I can see him.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Gary to the rescue. Man, I just realized, just

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<v Speaker 1>blow on it.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, Hey, podcasting professional professionals, drinking so much

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<v Speaker 2>beard in the studio. Man, that means the flies or something.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that now everybody knows that we're inside we ruin.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, I'll cut it all out, fix it and

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<v Speaker 2>post fix it and post.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, Friday, BBO, it's gonna be it was really

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<v Speaker 2>freaking funny. I thought it was funny right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like the hard jump cut to what actually

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<v Speaker 2>happened to the thing. Oh man, I freaking laughed hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And little people, oh, they will peek behind a curtain.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually Brando tells me there's some kind of gimmick or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't tell me anything about it. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I download the file that you send to put it together,

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually like in the evening, everybody in my house

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like freaking, oh man, I gotta do the

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<v Speaker 3>stupid thing Brando sent me right and I download the

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<v Speaker 3>file and just watch the native footage for the first

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seconds or whatever, and bang hits me right in

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<v Speaker 3>the right in the dink.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so funny. So I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. So tune in on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Tomorrow's Deck.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow's deck. This benability tunability, the ability to play cards

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<v Speaker 1>that you probably have squirrelled away either at the back

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<v Speaker 1>of your binder.

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<v Speaker 2>That would normally be a hit, but we're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>a scroll where they're.

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<v Speaker 1>In like a box or something. Because you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this card is so much fun, and then you play

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<v Speaker 1>it a couple of times nothing, it doesn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that this is a deck that can you

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<v Speaker 1>can rock some of them in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed a couple of cards that you've been saying, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to make this just like the fourth deck.

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<v Speaker 2>I've played this card in and I always cut it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've noticed a couple of those in this deck, Uncle

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<v Speaker 2>Brando's specials. I call it. Yeah, just cards that just suck.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop playing that card. That's no good.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stop, won't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I noticed a couple of those. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of notes on like the versatility of this

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<v Speaker 2>commander in that it could build you an aggro deck

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like what you did. It could build you

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<v Speaker 2>like a go wide deck if you want to cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>It could build you some kind of polymorph. I'll call

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<v Speaker 2>it a combo because that's usually what polymorph is. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll go we'll go into how. And what I

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<v Speaker 2>really was interested in and surprised that you didn't do,

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<v Speaker 2>is like some kind of like lock or Stacks variant.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I already have a Stacks deck, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to another one.

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<v Speaker 2>We can theorize about ways to do that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>read one of the lines of text on this card,

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<v Speaker 2>so my recommendations are going to be a little bit wonky.

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<v Speaker 2>But cards like the one I recommended will will probably

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<v Speaker 2>be worth a think.

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<v Speaker 1>On the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, So that's going to be episode four fifty

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<v Speaker 2>coming out tomorrow. If you're a patron, get at us,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're King Max, we're going to pick somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>win the Booster Pac Game. Join us in Toronto, Vancouver, Nope, Calgary, Regina.

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<v Speaker 2>Where else are we going?

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, that's it, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and everybody else in Vegas. But we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to Vegas because f you Alex. Yeah, that guy hit

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<v Speaker 2>our theme song.