WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:00.400 Me. 2 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:03.080 I've got some tallisker going today. 3 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:07.599 And John wis sippy cup, well whiskey. 4 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:12.160 Come and take my pain, the moneys, my ry, oh whiskey. 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:15.679 Why think alone when you can drink it all in with. 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:20.440 Ricochet's three whiskey Happy Hour. Join your bartenders, Steve Hayward, 7 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:25.120 John Yu and the International Woman of Mystery, Lucretia. 8 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.679 Where they slapped it up. It'll live it ain't you 9 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:32.240 easy on the shoulder? 10 00:00:32.840 --> 00:00:34.320 Tap you got to give. 11 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.159 Me and let that whiskey goo boy. I don't know 12 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:38.920 you guys if we can even do a show. 13 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.560 Listeners, we are coming to you this week having just 14 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:47.039 received the dreadful news of the passing of Roger Mandigo. 15 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.960 Roger Mandigo was the inventor of the McRib, so this 16 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:52.159 is a mortal blow to John. 17 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:53.600 You John, I don't know how you're gonna carry on. 18 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:55.159 I mean, are you Are you okay? John? How are 19 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:55.520 you doing? 20 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:01.560 I'm gonna call for a moment of silence. It's you know, 21 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:04.640 you know, the Eagles won the Super Bowl last week, 22 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.879 and now we have this terrible news that's kind of 23 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:09.879 balancing everything out in the world. You should also give 24 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.280 the man credit because not only the McRib. But chicken nuggets. 25 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:16.480 Now that if that had never been invented, that could 26 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.799 have ground American civilization to a halt. 27 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.280 Well, you know, I'm having a hard time. 28 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.760 I was going to add that we're going to call 29 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:28.680 a temporary ceasefire in our unlimited total war against commentary. 30 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.239 For dissing the McRib. But you know, it is kind 31 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:32.079 of amusing. 32 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.079 He was a professor in the Department of Meat Science 33 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:37.319 at the University of Nebraska. 34 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.159 I didn't know there was such a thing, and darn it, 35 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:41.560 I could have gone there. But of course. 36 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.560 His specialty was restructured meat, which just sounds a little dodgy. 37 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:50.200 Doesn't mean you know, there was years. 38 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.519 Steve that was almost you, because if you looked at 39 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.560 the bio he grew up in Pomona, the son of 40 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.760 an aerospace engineer in the defense industry. Steve, if you 41 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:01.359 had only picked up nick Rib at the right moment 42 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:04.840 instead of Plato, who knows what a great life you 43 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:05.480 could have had. 44 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.520 I think I've told you this story. 45 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.360 I had a big rib in February of nineteen eighty 46 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:13.319 two when they were first test marking it, and it's. 47 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:17.759 The last one I ever had. But I didn't like it. Yeah. 48 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.080 One of my favorite Jay Leno routines from a million 49 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.080 years ago now was him making jokes about chicken McNuggets 50 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.960 and about how it's you know, compressed meat that lasts forever. 51 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:27.840 And he said, you know, you could put a. 52 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:29.479 Chicken mc nugget in front of a chicken and the 53 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:31.840 chicken would say, I've seen nothing here that defends me 54 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:33.599 because it's fake. 55 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:34.919 Right. That was funny. 56 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.400 Way, But if that isn't bad enough news, Luke Kreesha, 57 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:41.360 it's also a sad news for. 58 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:45.719 You, very sad that Kentucky happens to have a democratic 59 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.719 governor and that old bastard didn't just retire today. That's 60 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:52.680 my sad news. Don't even go there. 61 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:57.639 I can't even make Fox mock's sadness about Mitch McConnell's 62 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:58.599 thing is not going to run. 63 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.199 Because I'm sad about the democratic governor. 64 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:04.039 Yeah, I know, I know by the way he'll be 65 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:05.840 if he decides to run to the seat, he'll be 66 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:06.879 a formidable candidate. 67 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.840 That's a seat they could actually win, which is not good. 68 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.120 But we'll see, no, no Kentucky. 69 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.280 How much Trump win Kentucky by. 70 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:15.280 Well a lot. 71 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.000 But remember the Basher won re election against a strong 72 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.360 Republican candidate backed by McConnell, and uh, you know, he's 73 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:22.719 one of those moderate Democrats. 74 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:23.759 You know. 75 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.919 The rumors are that Obama and some of the other 76 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.800 party elders were trying to promote him among the two 77 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:32.560 or three candidates to replace Biden, but then Biden jumped 78 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.400 in and said it has to be Harris, and that's 79 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:35.639 when they said, Okay, we're screwed. 80 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:42.039 Okay, what about Cameron? Uh uh, I mean the guy 81 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.199 that the Repartment. Yeah, and he's a lot I mean 82 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.919 he he is something of a McConnell accolade, but he's 83 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.680 a hell of a lot more sound than McConnell. I 84 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.439 could go for him, but it looks like it's just 85 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.159 might be a race between Thomas Massey and Cameron, and 86 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.719 they're not going to vote for for pretty boy mcsheer 87 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.840 sorry this year whatever. 88 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:07.159 Right, I still don't get why you hate McConnell so much. 89 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:11.280 Well, we've tried this before, John, without success. But right, 90 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.960 I'd like to say that it is. I can praise 91 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.319 him for all my wonky, you know, Senate Majority Leader reasons, 92 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.600 but he's the person who said we're not going to 93 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.759 have Merrick Garland a Supreme Court and we are going 94 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:25.399 to have Amy Cony Barrett. 95 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:27.199 I don't care if the election is just three weeks. 96 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.360 Away and it's only been a tiny bit better because 97 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:29.800 of it. 98 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:31.839 Oh what Really? 99 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:38.439 Garland convinced me that Garland wasn't an absolute unmitigated disaster 100 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:40.399 as Attorney General, and he would have at least been 101 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:45.680 reined in on the Supreme Court. Number number two, You 102 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.160 don't get to spend forty years of your life in 103 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:55.279 a corrupt position, drinking at the public trough, making millions 104 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:59.920 off your Chinese wife, and take credit for one bold 105 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.600 act in your entire forty year career. Sorry, the rest 106 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.519 of it was come he did. 107 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:06.040 Well. 108 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.639 Why are we finding out that there's so much waste, 109 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:12.360 fraud and abuse in the government. Where have the damn 110 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:13.240 Republicans been? 111 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:13.600 Huh? 112 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.040 Where's Mitch McConnell, who's been in power all these years? 113 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.519 Why wasn't he cleaning it up? Because he was corrupt 114 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.680 as the damn Democrats. I am so glad he's leaving. 115 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:23.680 I cannot tell you. 116 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:25.600 So, John, I think we'll well. 117 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.199 Mark Lucreaty Down is undecided on the question of McConnell's legacy. 118 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:30.160 And I'll move. 119 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.600 On to our third item before starting a round robin, 120 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.120 which is, if you think we're having a bad day. 121 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.399 Because of all this horrible news, how do you like 122 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:39.439 to be a liberal? Right now? 123 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.920 He realized that we're now one month into the Trump presidency, 124 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.920 in other words, one month down, forty seven months to go, 125 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:52.560 and you think the liberals could make it? I mean, 126 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:55.319 I think their mental health problems are only going to 127 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.040 get worse from here. And of course, going with this, 128 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.279 and we might spend some time on this in the end, 129 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:04.319 is the Trump administration understands something better than any Republican 130 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:07.560 administration maybe ever, which is always be on the attack. 131 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:09.439 That's the first rule of politics. 132 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.480 And they're great at it, and they're going to make 133 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.160 some mistakes, but but you never lose when you're on 134 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:14.600 the attack. 135 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.480 Anyway, I'll just throw that out there that our poor 136 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:18.399 liberal friends are. 137 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:22.639 They work themselves into a lather and they've got forty 138 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:23.639 seven months to go. 139 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:30.600 So should we invest in drug companies that sell antidepressants? Yes, 140 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.800 and alcohol companies. 141 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:35.480 Because yeah, I think so. 142 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.319 If you'd like to see four years from. 143 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.639 Now, Javier Xavier Milier is that how I say his 144 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:50.439 name gay to Malaya to uh elon today. Yeah, Cherry 145 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:56.959 Fancy united him with the chainsaw. It's so. 146 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.000 Yeah, that's you know, you you really do get the 147 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.600 feeling that some of these Trump people are having fun 148 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.600 doing this. Certainly what's her name, Caroline Levitt, the Press secretary. 149 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:08.720 You know, she's got that twinkle in her eye when 150 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.000 she smacks the press around every other sentence. 151 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:13.600 You know, they made it so easy for her, though, 152 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:18.839 because they've been so disingenuous, so duplicitous, so orthodox, and 153 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.279 you know, ugh that it's so easy to just smack 154 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.959 them in the face because they're just not expecting it. 155 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:27.920 You know, they don't think they have to know the 156 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.920 facts or they just have to repeat the talking points. 157 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.680 And she's way way ahead of them. It's amazing to watch, 158 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:35.959 and so is Jadie Vance. 159 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:39.040 Right, Well, something is happening that I expected. And we'll 160 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:40.959 hear a lot more of this in the coming weeks 161 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.399 and months. And you saw this play out in the 162 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.319 Reagan years. You'd have an announced program cut. The Reagan 163 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.399 cuts were really pretty modest, but that didn't stop the 164 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:52.000 hysteria and the TV networks, in the newspapers, would go 165 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.040 and find some person whose benefits for being cut off 166 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.600 for eligibility or other reasons, and how they were going 167 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:58.399 to be hurt by this. 168 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:00.720 And it was a terrible SOB story. 169 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:04.279 And CBS News US ulsters might remember this, John, you 170 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.680 were too young. They did a week long special series, 171 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:10.240 you know, like an hour every night, called People Like Us, 172 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.759 and it was always the people like us that Reagan 173 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:16.759 is hurting with his dastardly policies. And Reagan, who had 174 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.279 the discipline to ignore the media, was furious and called 175 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:21.360 Dan Rather on the phone and yelled at him about it. 176 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:23.879 The point is, they never did a story about, oh, 177 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.839 welfare fraud, they never did a story about waste fraud 178 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.240 and abuse in the government. They're totally incurious about that 179 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.879 side of things. So now we're getting the stories about 180 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.879 federal employees losing their jobs and isn't a terrible and 181 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.600 it's causing plane crashes and you know, measles outbreaks and 182 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:43.120 everything else, and that's not working out well. Partly it's 183 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.159 the new media landscape, right there was it was hard 184 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.320 to you know, back in the early eighties, Nation Review, 185 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.120 Human Events, the American Spectator. They published articles pointing out 186 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.080 why this was wrong and distorted it and all the 187 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.600 rest of that. But that was always Day's letter at best. 188 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:58.440 Now you can do it on Twitter in. 189 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.679 Real time, and okay, so a lot of fun to trust. 190 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:06.600 I mean, the Democrats are trying to uh broaden their 191 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:09.159 horizons a little bit. But when they go and put 192 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:15.000 on CBS Samantha Powers, Ugh, the woman has been beat 193 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.399 with an ugly stick inside and out. I'm just gonna 194 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:21.399 say that. But her speech writer goes and claims to 195 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:26.879 be just some poor little little servant who's dedicated her life, 196 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.960 but now she's gonna pay a mortgage and take her 197 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.159 kids to chther And of course, you know it takes, 198 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.360 as you pointed out on on X five seconds to 199 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.360 point out that this woman is lying through her tee. 200 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.919 She's not a civil service, he's not this. And then 201 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.639 they're just so stupid. But it's worked for them for 202 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.279 so long they can't think any other way, and it's 203 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.759 not working. You want to you want me to feel 204 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:50.799 sorry for a civil servant whose job is guaranteed and 205 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:53.919 they're you know, they're gonna have the most amazing retirement 206 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:56.559 and they sit at home and watch porn all day. 207 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.480 I mean, that's what the American people are thinking about. 208 00:09:59.480 --> 00:09:59.960 These people. 209 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:00.559 No. 210 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.559 No, at the EPA, they watched climate porns. What I've 211 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:04.200 been saying for a long time. But that's a different thing. 212 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.240 And do it outside. But whatever. 213 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.919 All right, let's get to the main event. Another big week. 214 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:13.759 But John, what's on your mind this week? 215 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:21.279 My issue is President Trump's comments about Ukraine. Uh. You know, 216 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:25.279 I'm all for you know, as I've written in some pieces, 217 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:30.559 you know, trying to uh match American strategy with the 218 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.879 limited resources we have, which may require reordering of what 219 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:40.039 our goals are, like Trump refocusing on the Western hemisphere 220 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.799 and the Monroe doctrine. But you know what, I think 221 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:47.879 what he said about Ukraine was unfortunate, and I used 222 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:49.559 to don't. I think it was just the wrong thing 223 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:51.840 to say about our ally. 224 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.000 But which which specific John, I mean he said about 225 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.720 to read this, Yeah, I'm going to read the quote. 226 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:04.000 So he uh he said just Wednesday that you know, mister, 227 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.720 you know that Zelensky was you know, quote unquote a 228 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:11.919 dictator who you know, wasn't wasn't having elections during the war. 229 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:17.519 He also said that that he had tricked the United 230 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:19.679 States and supporting a war here's a quote that couldn't 231 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:24.919 be one that never had to start. That Zelenski refuses 232 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.639 to have elections, is very low in to Ukrainian polls, 233 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.799 and the only thing he was good at was playing 234 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:30.759 Biden like a fill. 235 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.399 So, I what do you disagree with about that? 236 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:41.200 John Well? I, first of all, I don't think Zelenski 237 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.039 is a dictator. I don't think it's wrong to suspend 238 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:49.279 elections during the war. That's trying to destroy your national existence. 239 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:52.360 You know, Churchill didn't have elections during those World War 240 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.919 two either, right, but that was an agreement amongst the 241 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:59.320 leading you know, it's a parliamentary system, and you know. 242 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.919 I mean, I'm not really I'm not finished. 243 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.200 Well Lincoln, Lincoln chose to have elections, But I don't 244 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.480 think that it makes you a dictator to say we're 245 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.639 not going to have elections during war. I also, I mean, 246 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:15.240 Trump is implying that Ukraine started the war. I mean, 247 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.559 I think this is I mean, I just think that's 248 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:22.080 factually erroneous. And I mean, here's you know, they are someone. 249 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:23.840 You know, there's a country that we you know, the 250 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:27.200 United States has pledged to support now Trump and we 251 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:31.000 have spent billions of dollars to help them defend themselves. 252 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:34.399 They are not the aggressor in this war. Now Trump 253 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:36.440 can come along and say, Okay, this is a war 254 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.360 that started under President Biden, and so I'm going to 255 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.960 try to draw to a close. I don't think it's 256 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.279 wrong to have a conversation with Putin and a foreign 257 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.720 minister of Russia. And I don't think Zelensky has to 258 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.519 be at the table. I don't think the Europeans have 259 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.200 to be at the table. But you have to start 260 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.360 talking to someone the other side if you want to 261 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:57.960 bring you know, negotiate to bring the war to an end. 262 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.639 But I don't think you should treat Dar. I don't 263 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.159 think we be treating our allies this way. And I 264 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.240 worry that if we would, you know, end the war 265 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:08.000 in Ukraine really badly, it would be just like Biden 266 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.240 the way he handed the war in Afghanistan. He could 267 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.480 have said, you know, I didn't start this war in Afghanistan. 268 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.399 I campaigned to bring it to a close. But if 269 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:18.639 you bring the war to a close, even though it's 270 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.879 not your own, in a bad way, it could really 271 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:25.960 be the thing that tarnishes your presidency. Biden's fall started 272 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.960 because of the way we left Afghanistan. I do not 273 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.240 want us to leave Ukraine in that way. I don't 274 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.039 want to leave I think it would be a terrible 275 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.720 disaster for US to leave Lukraine in a way that 276 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.879 would allow Russia right to continue its fighting or to 277 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:45.200 start encroaching on NATO. And that's what really, that's what 278 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:46.120 really worries me. 279 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.720 Just one short point of order, our question, John, and 280 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.320 then I'm gonna let Lucretia maul you to death, which 281 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.000 I think she's all coiled and ready to do. 282 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.200 About the elections question, you're quite right to. 283 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.960 Point out, and actually pointed it out in some email 284 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.519 to people today, that yes, there were no elections in 285 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.879 World War Two in Britain or World War One, but 286 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.639 in both cases, like Israel right now, you had a 287 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:10.360 government of national unity that all parties were part of. 288 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.919 I don't know if Zelensky has done that in Ukraine, don't. 289 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:15.840 I think it's just him and his party. I don't 290 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:17.039 think it's an all party government. 291 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.080 He has abolished all other political parties. 292 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.799 Guys, Well, that's why, That's what I understand, and so 293 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.879 I think that's that's a problem. If he had done 294 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:28.039 the British route or the you know, the other national 295 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.080 government National Unity wrote, then I would absolutely cut him 296 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.039 some slack, but I think that there are some questions 297 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.240 about his democratic legitimacy. But John, let me introduce another 298 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:38.279 statement of Trump's that you left out. 299 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:40.960 That was startling to me. But the more I think 300 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:42.960 about it, I think I get it. It makes sense. 301 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.440 It's back to the old tap Trump literally and serious 302 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:49.240 lead dichotomy. And that's when he said and repeated apparently 303 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.039 later in the week, that I demand that Ukraine give 304 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.600 us essentially fifty percent of the revenues from mineral and 305 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.000 oil development in their country once they have their country 306 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.080 secure again. There's tribute, right, This looks like old fashioned 307 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.320 you know, Roman or imperialist tribute. And I mean it 308 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.000 seems outrageous on the surface, and I found it shocking 309 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.759 until I stopped for a minute and thought, oh, like 310 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:12.360 so many other things Trump does, like the Gulf of 311 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.039 America and you know other things he does, like that, 312 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.840 he's trying to reset things in a radical way instead 313 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.720 of trimming around the edges. So just give you one example. 314 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:23.440 We know that there's people have been talking about this 315 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:25.360 since the war started. Well, there's going to need to 316 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.360 be billions of dollars in international aid for Ukraine to 317 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:30.279 rebuild when the war is finally over. 318 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:31.519 And you know how that. 319 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.960 Would have gone in the past. They'd say we need 320 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.440 a hundred billion dollars and we'd say we'll give you ten, 321 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:40.720 and that meant we'd end up giving them forty or fifty, 322 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:42.480 it doesn't matter the number. But that's the way that 323 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:45.080 game would have been played. And Trump saying, no, you're 324 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:47.679 going to pay for it. And by the way, you know, 325 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:53.440 whether you think the aid is corrupt just to our 326 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.480 own defense industry, however you want to characterize it. At 327 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:01.960 least Roosevelt had the wit in the in the len 328 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:03.519 Les program before World War. 329 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.399 Two of getting written to give us some of their bases. 330 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:08.600 I mean, we got something from written for that aid 331 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:13.279 in that desperate hour they had, right. So I think 332 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:15.879 that this puts into a larger pattern to what Trump 333 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:18.080 is really about. It's a grand strategy, or I call 334 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.240 it the Great reset. He's now overturning essentially a century 335 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:27.720 of the character of American involvement in the world. And 336 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.480 I'll stop there and just say I'm all for it. 337 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:31.519 I could go through the whole I'm gonna write a 338 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.279 piece on this at some point. I'll just stop right there. 339 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.360 Actually, I actually don't when I read about this idea, 340 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.600 you know, Trump has about getting essentially some kind of 341 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.279 reparations from Ukraine, I actually thought that Ukraine should rush 342 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.080 and Embraceist's idea as fast as it could. And this 343 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.600 actually was This actually shows to me the way Trump 344 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:54.559 thinks about Ukraine is not really strategic, because that actually 345 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.759 would strengthen the relationship with between the United States of Ukraine. 346 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.159 It would make it harder for us to pull up right. 347 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.960 We would have an interest then in Ukraine remaining an 348 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.559 independent country, and we would have to send a lot 349 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:09.200 of Americans and American companies to Ukraine to develop all 350 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:13.839 these resources. But to me just says, oh, but you know, 351 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.640 the think about Ukraine's not co here, because he shouldn't 352 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.799 want to do that if he really wants to cut 353 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.319 off Ukraine and pull us back, and we don't want 354 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:24.680 to have a steak in Ukraine after So, if you're 355 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:28.039 someone who actually likes America supporting Ukraine, this idea is 356 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:29.240 actually a great idea. 357 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.079 Oh interesting, I like that, Lucretia. 358 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:36.519 Okay, John, I listen I will concede that you could 359 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.519 be right and I could be wrong. I promise you 360 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:41.839 nobody is going to sue me for libel on this 361 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.359 because in six months or less, I believe I will 362 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.759 be proven right. And there is a lot of evidence 363 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:56.400 of people getting filthy rich all across the entire elite 364 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:01.759 Washington swamp on Ukraine and you, I believe that you'll 365 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.839 have to, just like you did with JD. Vance and 366 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.599 other things, confessed that I was right. 367 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:08.440 We'll see. 368 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:09.720 I'll just leave it at that way. 369 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:11.920 Other than Advance, when did I have to concede to 370 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:16.559 or right? Steve's keeping score because also asked to keep 371 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:18.119 track of whenever he has to say you're. 372 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:20.240 Right, I don't even hear him. 373 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:21.519 I won't press it. 374 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:24.119 And I just make one one point, just I totally 375 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:27.440 buy that. I mean, look, you guys are right that 376 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:31.240 Trump is trying to reset form policy, and you know 377 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:35.359 it does involve right like the Monroe doctrine. I mean, 378 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:36.839 that's the only way to make sense. Like if you 379 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.720 wanted to say things like the Panama Canality, saying things 380 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.119 like green Leve what he's saying, they make sense. They 381 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:44.119 actually kind of make a strategic sense. For the United 382 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.720 States to reassert himself there because of the Monroe doctrine, 383 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:50.200 and so you could say, because of the threat China 384 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:54.720 poses to us, he is trying to write pull back 385 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.279 our commitments in the Middle East. Maybe I don't know. 386 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:00.640 Actually it seems like might be ramping up the Middle East. 387 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.319 He should pull back from the Middle East is less 388 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:04.759 important than Europe. 389 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:06.440 No, it's not. 390 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:16.799 Wait strategic anymore. If you just I don't measure power 391 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.000 in the world by the number of people and the 392 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.359 size of the economies. The Europe is like a whole 393 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.680 order of magnitude more important than the Middle East. Asia 394 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:28.720 is more important too than the Middle East. Africa is not. 395 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.519 But you know, like if you look the point, you know, 396 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:36.240 American strategy for one hundred years has been we don't 397 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.559 want anyone to be in the Western hemisphere and we 398 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:41.559 don't want any power to control Europe and Asia because 399 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.319 the wealth and power of those two parts of the 400 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:45.839 world are the only ones that pose a. 401 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:46.400