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<v Speaker 1>Okay, welcome to the podcast. I have one story in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. I got this email fairly recently, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a bigfoot encounter in near Cave Run Lake in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there a big story about a bigfoot sighting near

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<v Speaker 1>a campground near Cave Run Lake. I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 1>where Cave Rn I lived in that state for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly where it is. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>Cave Run is over in eastern Kentucky, but it might

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<v Speaker 1>be it might be down around Mammo Springs. That's where Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the big Cave System. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. I've been to all these places. I

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<v Speaker 1>fished Cave Run. I just can't remember where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I fished a bunch of lakes in that state. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a different kind of fishing than I was raised on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I enjoyed it. It was fun. Went muskie fishing

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<v Speaker 1>one time. I think it was at Caveron Lake and

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was with caught a musky. He said, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fish of a thousand casts. I thought, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. It wasn't a huge fish, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>there must be kind of sparse. I don't know anyway

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<v Speaker 1>back to the story. This is an exciting story, so

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<v Speaker 1>hold on to the old weaves. Here we go. After

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<v Speaker 1>forty five years of hunting and being in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>and being successful and harvesting everything from coyotes, deer, turkey, bear,

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<v Speaker 1>and other types of small game, I will be selling

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<v Speaker 1>my guns, equipment and donating all my camo. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I need some sort of therapy or medication to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with what happened to me this past turkey season. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to tell anyone, including my family and even my

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<v Speaker 1>hunting buddies. I can't go to a shrink or tell

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<v Speaker 1>my doctor because I'm afraid I'll be sent to the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital for observation. I don't know for sure, but that

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<v Speaker 1>might be a good thing to allow me time to

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<v Speaker 1>sort this out in my head. I have opted to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to you and tell you my story and

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<v Speaker 1>recount what happened to me the last weekend of April

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<v Speaker 1>in the Cave Run Lake region of Kentucky, while hunting

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<v Speaker 1>turkey by myself. I had already harvested one bird with

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<v Speaker 1>a bow and called in several gobblers for my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was going to be my own time with

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<v Speaker 1>mother nature and me having a battle of wits with

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<v Speaker 1>an educated thunder chicken. It started like every other spring

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<v Speaker 1>turkey hunt I have ever been on, in which I

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<v Speaker 1>was up at four am, in the woods at five

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty and at the top of a ridge. By

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<v Speaker 1>six am, the birds, which had been quiet this year,

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<v Speaker 1>roared to the rising sun, and I had my choice

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<v Speaker 1>of five different directions to follow the gobbling. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>my way around the area like I knew my own home,

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<v Speaker 1>having hunted that region since I was thirteen, so I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to take the ridge to a point that opened

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<v Speaker 1>into a small clearing that dropped off on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>and had a sawbriar thicket that ran adjacent to the backside.

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<v Speaker 1>The bird was still in the tree when I set

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<v Speaker 1>up one hundred and fifty yards away from it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I increased the frequency of my calls, mixing in clucks

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<v Speaker 1>and yelps and some very sexy cuts and cackles, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had this bird fired up. I was cutting him off,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was cutting me off with double and triple gobbles.

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<v Speaker 1>So I knew I was going home early that day.

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<v Speaker 1>As on many occasions, this bird wanted to stay on

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<v Speaker 1>the roost until he got a visual confirmation that he

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<v Speaker 1>was not being catfished by an ugly hen. I played

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<v Speaker 1>the long distance love song for twenty minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he went silent. I realized the entire forest was still,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew this bird was coming. Sometimes birds in

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<v Speaker 1>this area will do that. They'll stop gobbling and approach

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<v Speaker 1>in silence. I had my shotgun on my knee and

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<v Speaker 1>my call was in my mouth, and I was completely

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<v Speaker 1>undetectable with my back against a large black oak that

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<v Speaker 1>was almost as white as my shoulders. I tucked in

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<v Speaker 1>the tree fifteen feet from the clearing, and my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>looked for movement from this bird. I had been sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there motionless for fifteen minutes when something reached around the

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<v Speaker 1>tree from both directions, and with the top hand it

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed my mouth and neck, pulling it back against the tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other hand was around my waist, which also

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<v Speaker 1>pulled my gun into my gut. I was unable to

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<v Speaker 1>move anything other than my feet, and the more I kicked,

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<v Speaker 1>the tighter its grip was on my waist until I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped kicking. At that point, it relaxed its grip just

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<v Speaker 1>a little. My eyes rolled wide, searching to see what

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<v Speaker 1>had me in its grip. It was blurry, but I

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<v Speaker 1>could see its hands and its arm as it held

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<v Speaker 1>my face. It was a dark brown hair covered arm

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<v Speaker 1>in areas where there was no hair, it was callous,

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<v Speaker 1>dark gray skin, and thick fingers like a gorilla. I

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<v Speaker 1>could not move my head, and I struggled to get

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<v Speaker 1>air in the gaps between its fingers. If I kicked,

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<v Speaker 1>the grip tightened, so I did my best to relax

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<v Speaker 1>so that I could breathe. I focused on the sunlit

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<v Speaker 1>fiel just outside the trees in front of me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to take in a measured breath. My heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate began to drop just a little, and I relaxed

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<v Speaker 1>just enough to think. When a doe walked out into

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<v Speaker 1>the grass, I noticed her colors right away, that light

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<v Speaker 1>brown tone that blazed in the sun against the new

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<v Speaker 1>spring grass. I focused on her and I almost fell

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<v Speaker 1>into a trance. She was panting and blowing after a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>and then began to stomp, obviously trying to get us

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<v Speaker 1>to move. They know when something is not right in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. A black streak shot across her and she

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<v Speaker 1>went down. It was so fast that I almost missed it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. The creature

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<v Speaker 1>that had me tightened its grips lightly and took my

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<v Speaker 1>mind away from the show in front of us. Another

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<v Speaker 1>creature came into view and hovered over the deer, which

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<v Speaker 1>was only quivering now in its death rattle. It raised

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<v Speaker 1>its head. It was a dog like head with ears erect,

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<v Speaker 1>and it scanned the area, made a clicking sound that

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard, and it raised its muzzle into

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<v Speaker 1>the air and lifted its front jaws and white things

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<v Speaker 1>shone in the sun. They had to be three inches long.

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<v Speaker 1>It howled, and it was answered immediately by another howl

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<v Speaker 1>not too far away. Less than a minute later, there

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<v Speaker 1>were two of these werewolves standing in the clearing, devouring

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<v Speaker 1>the dough. I will never experience fear like that again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure of that. My thoughts went back to whatever

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<v Speaker 1>had me pinned against the tree, and I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was next on the menu. In a matter of just

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes, the deer carcass was gone, with only

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<v Speaker 1>a large bloody patch on the ground. As they bit

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<v Speaker 1>through the meat and the bones, swallowing mouthfuls as if

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<v Speaker 1>it were a race to see which beasts could consume

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<v Speaker 1>the most meat, and as fast as it began, it

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<v Speaker 1>was over, and both creatures turned toward the backside of

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<v Speaker 1>the clearing and began to sniff the air, at which

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<v Speaker 1>time my heart sank into my stomach and my fight

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<v Speaker 1>or flight instincts were in overload. Had I not been captive,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been running at that point, which would

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<v Speaker 1>have been the worst mistake I could make. The creature

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<v Speaker 1>started to look in my direction, and I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>that they knew something was out of place. The head

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<v Speaker 1>of the monster that held me against the tree came

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<v Speaker 1>briefly into my peripheral view, and it let out a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous roar, so loud that I lost my hearing in

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<v Speaker 1>my right ear for the rest of that day. The

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<v Speaker 1>pair of beasts in the field took one step toward

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<v Speaker 1>my location. They had not moved afoot when several roars

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<v Speaker 1>lit up the area. I don't know how many there were,

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<v Speaker 1>but a few, maybe four or five, and they all

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<v Speaker 1>roared at one time, and just like that, the two

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<v Speaker 1>dog creatures turned and bolted out of view, followed by

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<v Speaker 1>a massive explosion of movement around me as the second

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<v Speaker 1>group burst into pursuit of the dog creatures, leaving me

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<v Speaker 1>held against the tree by my captor. The hand that

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<v Speaker 1>held my waist grabbed my gun and snatched it out

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<v Speaker 1>of my hands and threw it into the trees, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it released my mouth. It took me a minute

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<v Speaker 1>to gather my senses, but I got to my feet

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<v Speaker 1>and I started to run to my shotgun. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see my captor anywhere. As I took the first few steps,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see the gun, but I knew which way

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<v Speaker 1>he had thrown it. Like a flash, it was in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me, blocking my way. One more step and

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<v Speaker 1>I would have bounced off the mast of beast. It

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<v Speaker 1>groaned and it pushed me back onto the ground. Until

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, I assumed these things all looked the same,

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<v Speaker 1>like dogs. But what stood before me was different. It

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<v Speaker 1>was bigger, and it was thicker. It was more heavy set.

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<v Speaker 1>The color was not black, maybe it was dark brown.

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<v Speaker 1>It towered over, and it's deep inhales and exhales intimidated

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<v Speaker 1>me to no end. I locked onto its face, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could see emotion and thought in those large dark eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Its nose was almost flat against its face, and its

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<v Speaker 1>mouth could have held an NFL football. I got up

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<v Speaker 1>and I ran. I ran down that trail that I

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<v Speaker 1>came in on. But what had taken me over forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes to travel before only took me maybe ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to get back to my truck. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>got in the truck, I kept the fast pace going

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<v Speaker 1>and I flew down that gravel road, pushing the limit

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<v Speaker 1>on how hard I could drive without putting it up

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<v Speaker 1>a tree or over a cliff. A week later, my

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<v Speaker 1>gun is still on that ridge near Cave Run Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going in there to get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot sleep. I have called off work three days and

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<v Speaker 1>I was sent home another. Some got as I work

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<v Speaker 1>with walked in the bathroom and while I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a crying episode. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>many I've had since this happened to me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is. I'm not a crier, but when

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<v Speaker 1>the memories fled back in detail, I burst into a

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<v Speaker 1>crying fit. I can't control it. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot type creatures meant me any harm, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe I would have been consumed by those dogs slash

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<v Speaker 1>wolf creatures if the Bigfoot had not wrapped me up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a death I would want to experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm so afraid of the woods. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I drive an additional twenty minutes each day to drive

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<v Speaker 1>to work on busy highways instead of county rows. I

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<v Speaker 1>refused to sit on the porch anymore, which is something

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<v Speaker 1>that I had cherished, spending time with my wife on

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<v Speaker 1>the port, swinging and sipping sweet tea and listening to

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<v Speaker 1>birds sing. I've even hired the kid down the street

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<v Speaker 1>to cut my grass. I won't even get that close

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<v Speaker 1>to the woods. My questions are, what should I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there help for people who have had these experiences? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to get past this and enjoy all

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<v Speaker 1>those things I dearly loved in my past life. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end of a story. That's Kentucky. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>too far from me. I don't okay, run If I

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<v Speaker 1>could remember where it is, I want to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the east side of Lexington. That's some hilly country

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<v Speaker 1>and there's some thick woods in there, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there are other encounters in that area. But to this

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<v Speaker 1>man's question, I mean, who do you talk to if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a war? And you come back with some

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<v Speaker 1>terrible images in your head or memories of things that

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<v Speaker 1>you've done. You can you know, psychiatrists know how to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that. In the military and even in civilian life,

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<v Speaker 1>people equiped to deal to help you deal with those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know where you go. And people have

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<v Speaker 1>sent me first. I've been accused of not caring about

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<v Speaker 1>people who've had these experiences, but it's kind of like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had that kind of experience, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're going through. I mean, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things that people go through that I have sympathy

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<v Speaker 1>for that may not look like I have sympathy for

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<v Speaker 1>it because I've just never been through anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can just pick anything, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I may have said this before, but the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>we all think is, man, I'm glad that didn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You don't say it. You don't say it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're thinking it. That's kind of what I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking when I was reading this man. This guy he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to talk to somebody, But who does he talk

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<v Speaker 1>to without being committed to the mental or mental floor

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<v Speaker 1>of the hospital. I don't know. I wish I knew

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<v Speaker 1>what to tell him. Maybe you guys, maybe there's a

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot support group, you know, like a like a AA

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<v Speaker 1>for Bigfoot encounter somewhere. If there isn't, there probably ought

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<v Speaker 1>to be, because these people claim to have serious memories

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. And I can sympathize with that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't identify with it because I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been through anything like that. But if I ever do

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<v Speaker 1>go through something like that, I'm gonna tell you all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I don't think Bigfoot even is interested

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<v Speaker 1>in me. People see Bigfoot everywhere, and they see bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>sign everywhere. I never see anything, nothing, nothing, no signs,

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<v Speaker 1>no nothing. But I don't know. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking kind of slow. Am I talking too slow? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. Sounds like I'm talking slow anyway. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes this afternoon I've been writing Steve Lilly.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to take a break. I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>a little editing on this, so that was I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like to do that, but sometimes I'll jump into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's kind of cathartic. Is that a word?

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<v Speaker 1>Cathartic therapeutic? I don't know. I'm not very smart I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a big vocabulary. Cathartic sounds right, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of that way to edit this and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get the get everything presentable to read. But

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed reading it. I feel for this guy. If

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have any advice for him, give him a comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him know I didn't get this too long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's probably still listening. All right, man, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the story. I'm sorry you're dealing with all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you guys on the next podcast. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me.